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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 19th:
AD 65 – The freedman Milichus betrays Piso's plot to kill the Emperor Nero and all the conspirators are arrested.
531 – Battle of Callinicum: A Byzantine army under Belisarius is defeated by the Persians at Raqqa (northern Syria).
1529 – Beginning of the Protestant Reformation: After the Second Diet of Speyer bans Lutheranism, a group of rulers (German: Fürst) and independent cities protests the reinstatement of the Edict of Worms.
1713 – With no living male heirs, Charles VI, Holy Roman Emperor, issues the Pragmatic Sanction of 1713 to ensure that Habsburg lands and the Austrian throne would be inherited by his daughter, Maria Theresa
1839 – The Treaty of London establishes Belgium as a kingdom and guarantees its neutrality.


>News
EU4 Mandate of Heaven is out.

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>174345151
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>>174432147
W&B
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>>174432147
BASED
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>>174432147
Whitest
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>>174432714
I see pastebin is on the cutting edge of memes
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>>174432714
owo
whats this
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>>174432895
Chuck hasn't been relevant for years, why do normalfag memesters lag behind by like a decade?
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Who is the guy who always makes the GSG threads?
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>>174433731
ol' randy boy
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>>174432982
just some fluff
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>>174433731
alex
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>>174433729
What's an example of an eternal meme? Pepe? Bane?
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>>174434254

jesus
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>>174434331
If I crucified him, would he die?
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>>174434254
Neither is actually that relevant, pepe in particular simply being cancer.
If I had to choose something like the smuganimegirl.jpg.
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>jesus
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>>174434453
t. Pontus Pilates
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>>174434486
Chile is based you Argentinian Monkey, las malvinas son britannias.
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>>174434174
gib some playthough ideas then
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>>174434647
Persia, France, maybe China (it's still hard). Not Spain. It's pretty spread-out.
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Does Castile/Spain get missions for their historical provinces in North Africa or do I have to fabricate them myself?
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>>174434647
Apparently you can form Byzantium and Iberia again
Go wild
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Isn't he H A W T
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>>174434934
Fuck off HoI4 shitter.
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>>174434976
HoI4 is white and based.
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>>174434976
Fuck off non-HoI4 shitter
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wait andeans don't get any cavalry after tech 23?

but i can get cav before i meet any europeans?

nice game johan
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>>174435132
>>>174434934 #
>>playing hoi4 kr
>>>174434976 #
>>shitposting
What did he mean by this?
>hoi4 is bad but anyone telling it to fuck off is a shitposter
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>>174435174
You shouldnt be using cavalry at that point in the game anyway.
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>>174435916
>You shouldnt be using cavalry at that point in the game anyway.

nice game johan
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Hey guys, I'm starting to think that this is the containment board.
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>>174436104
>shitposting
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>>174435174
>horses just appear
M8 horse is actually an abstract concept, I mean you could just be a gay guy, because riding dick makes you run fast to escape the pain
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>>174436158
desu
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in HPM, if i puppet a country and then change governments, does its government change too?
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>>174436331
It would be extremely revolutionary.
No, you get an event to coup them, if it fails you have to repuppet, if it succeeds then they change.
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>>174432714
>Jacobin Rebels renamed to Republican Rebels
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>>174436331
no
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>>174436443
>No, you get an event to coup them, if it fails you have to repuppet, if it succeeds then they change.
thanks anon
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69

420
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>>174436193
Hello /eog/, you appear to be lost. This is the autistic map painting thread, not the autistic $15 a month excel thread. Nice to see you though!
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>>174436492
They're a big puppet.
You're welcome, lad.
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>>174432714
>>174436447
>Ye republicans by name
doesnt have the same ring to it desu

>>174436547
for you
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Playing EU4 as grorious Nippon, should I waste bird mana genociding the Koreans?
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Any tips for Krakow?

Who can I hope to ally with so that Austria don't just annex me in the '40s?
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how do you say "remove portugese" in quecha?
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>>174435174
build more horse factories
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>>174436927
las malvinas son argentinas
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>>174437000

those are spaniards, anon
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>>174436927
Nuthin personnel, kid
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>>174436927
>65 OE
How?
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>1 duchy kingdom
>"you need 2 duchies to form it"

BRAVO JOHAN
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>>174437542
i guess meem events and reddit-tier references is the only thing they good at.

no this isn't viet, it's vanilla
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Vicky 2, the mod is crashing when "initializing maplogic". I have a fresh reinstall and of course no cache.
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>>174437542
You need 2 duchies so that the Kingdom doesn't appear every single time, when it historically never did. 2 duchies also serves as some form of established power, since one is nothing
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>>174437306

p. easy

most of that is colonies so it's just portugal proper that actually adds any OE
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>>174438097
>so that the Kingdom doesn't appear every single time, when it historically never did
you're right i guess. wouldn't want a non-historical kingdom of brittany spoiling the historical carpathian, wendish and iberian empires.
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>>174438297
I never got admin efficiency, so unexplained, sad!

How much absolutism do you have?
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>>174437842
I'm using
>>174432714
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>>174438442
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>>174432714
>>174438606
I ran the validator and found almost 10k errors


lel
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reposting in new thread
>>174369946
>>174368592
>>174370057
So far i've got the current countries allied with me; Italy, Austria-Hungary (i dont have any of their cores so they accepted), Ottoman Empire, Belgium and Sweden. Would really like to get France as well, tough they are not allying at the moment.

Germany and Italy are at war with Japan, both mobilized, are they getting a lot of war exhaustion as well? might be a good time to attack when their war ends if its the case, this one's been going for years.
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What game can I play cuck Sweden?
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>>174438882
all of them
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>>174439020
No, I mean like, import a bulk Somalis and so only watch as they destroy everything.

28/5000
there is no such games?
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>declare war on papals to get the two last provinces I need to form italy
>Coalition declares war on me
>Somehow win both wars but terrible casualties
>Another coalition is about to declare war on me
>Can´t form italy while at war
What the fuck am I gonna do bros?
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>>174436764
>should
No, you must.
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>>174439146
Good God laddo I really needed that image *phew* gave the good ol' one eyed snake the good ol' beating if you catch my drift *wink* *wink*
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>>174432714
Can you claim the entire territory of the Duchy of Burgundy ?
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>>174436764
Colonise Taiwan and the phillipines first
>>174436901
Austria
>>174437808
That's literally blackface
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>>174439670
>coalitions
>bros
Go back to >>>R//eddit for one
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let him grow old inshallah
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>>174432147
An additional reminder for /pol/tards to stick to their containment board and stop polluting /gsg/

>>>/pol/
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>>174441120
based /pol/ster falseflagging as a redditor falseflagging as a /pol/ster falseflagging as a redditor
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>>174432135
So I'm trying to play as a Sikh Majapahit empire.

So far, the biggest pain in my ass has been the Spanish. They keep getting grumbly about our colonies touching.

Also, is "South Nusantara" a good name for Indonesian Australia?
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>>174441120
kaiserreich und wilhelm and NOT volk gehmeinschaft und adolf ok

Heil dir im Siegerkranz
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>>174439670
Holy shit, I fought 75% of europe at this point. Why the fuck does everyone hate italy so much
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>>174441054

time to make Mani a general
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>>174441639
>handful of hre minors

lmao just kill them
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mayo and talex fucking when?
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Is CK2 even worth playing anymore? I haven't updated it since horse lords came out and it looks like they made it into an even worse meme-ridden clusterfuck than it was before.
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I want to play eu4 with friends but them all those dlcs wtf paraduck. Do dlc/expansion packs add a lot to the game?
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>>174442087
i hate to say it since it was my favorite game, but not really
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>>174442039
The problem is they are starting to group up. I will try to recover a bit and post results
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>forgot to move troops to Africa
>Italy takes most of my colonies
>half my emergency transports get sunk with three divisions on them.
>forgot to research the tech that allows you to build Armour divisions until 1942

I really fucked this game up.
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>>174442183
just pirate everything you fucking retard
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Are Iranians based?
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>>174442183
You can download all the games and DLC for free from the archive. You're not looking hard enough.
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>>174442529
Depends from which millenium they´re from.
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>>174442183
They do add a lot. But if just one of you has the DLC, everyone in a multiplayer game also has access to the features they ass despite not owning them.

Just pirate the DLCs like we all do.
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>>174442087
>there will never be a good successor to Victoria 2
>the game will continue to stay outdated and unmatched
>come back for the economy and nation building, leave because it lacks critical management features new games have

Why even live?
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>>174442809
I love these maps and especially the fact that I live right under a big cluster of potential nuke sites.
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>>174442636
Can i play multiplayer if my dlc`s are pirated?
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>>174443005
I live a hundred miles from any nuke. just hope the water doesn't go bad.
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>>174443005
>>174443531
Literally my only chance would be to get on a boat and sail to South America
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>>174441476
>not calling it New South Borneo
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>>174443531
>>174443736
Why would you want to survive? You'd reject the sweet embrace of nuclear holocaust?
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>>174442809
What's up with the black clusters?
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>>174443931

I'm not American but I think those areas are where most of the USA's heavy industry is.

So wipe them out and you'd cripple the country.
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qq

>>174443931

that's where most of the us's nuclear silos are

black dots are counterforce, the ones that aren't in the clusters are mostly military bases, airfields, and militarily relevant civ infrastructure

>>174444186
>heavy industry
>middle of fucking nowhere

shut up retard
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hey lads.
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>>174442529
pre-islam: w&b
post-islam: b&w
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>>174444298
thanks for you work, it's appreciated
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>>174443931
Those are where we keep our nukes. Those sites are only expected to be targeted in the "2000 nukes" scenario, because in the "500 nukes" scenario, the US has already launched our nukes at Russia and destroyed most of their retaliatory capacity. If the US strikes first, those sites in Montana, Wyoming, etc. are already empty, so the Russians have no reason to waste their remaining nukes on them (instead they would be expected to target major cities and population centers, i.e. the purple sites). If the Russians strike first, they would have their full nuclear arsenal, so they would have plenty of bombs to drop on rural nuclear sites in the middle of nowhere, and a good reason to do so (disabling as much of our retaliatory capacity as possible).

Basically, the strategy changes a lot depending on who gets the first move.
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>>174443931
I believe the black clusters are our own silo sites so they're prime targets

>>174443914
Imagine it:
>all the duck hunting you could ask for
>all the fishing you could ask for
>no dnr to tell you what to do
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>>174444186
>those areas are where most of the USA's heavy industry is.
No, not at all. You could not be more wrong. For fuck's sake, if you've even played a single game of Victoria or HoI you should have a rough idea of where the industry is in the US.
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>>174443301
plx answer.
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>>174442809

The biggest redpill is that the ''''Cold War'''' was a joint PsyOp by the USA and the Soviet Union to have their populations live in fear of a nuclear holocaust.

They didn't actually have as many nukes as they said, and they never intended to use them; they just wanted a scared population that was easy to control.

People who lived through that era should sue the government.
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Newfag poorfag here, I stumbled upon the concept of grand strategy games recently and got EU3:DW since it was the best combination of easy to find and download, relatively low learning curve (according to a 5 minute google search), and most importantly that I could actually run on my toaster of a laptop since I apparently can't run any incarnation of EU4. Since I've picked it up, I've played a few saves as the teutonic order, minamoto, the aztecs, brandenburg, and sweden, each lasting for around 100 years give or take. Currently on frankfurt, trying to see how far I can take them just by blitzing towards tech with an emphasis on being small and economic and avoiding other people's wars. Maybe when I have 10+ tech levels over absolutely everyone else I'll just steamroll them so that even if the emperor bitches about it, he can't stop me. Haven't decided yet.

The thing is, I haven't slept well in like 5-6 weeks. I used to get like 10 hours a night, now I wake up, open my laptop and load my save again, play for around 15-20 hours straight before I get too tired to continue, then wake up and do it again. The actual time I wake up and fall asleep varies and is dismissive, and I end up eating whenever I actually notice I'm hungry rather than on a semi-regular pattern. I don't even give any mind to my other hobbies anymore and my backlog has not only been not touched, I'm not even keeping tabs on what should go in it.

I have NEVER been sucked into a game like this before. is it just because it's a new genre for me, am I maybe a little autistic, or is this just norrmal for new people trying to overcome the learning curve? Regardless, I figure I'll lurk here for a while and hopefully absorb something useful, if only just perspective. Just from browsing this thread, it seems like this community has a decent learning curve too.
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>>174444834

Same thing happened to me with Darkest Hour.

I got it just as I left my job. I planned to be unemployed for under a month. 4 months later I'm still unemployed.

Grand strategy is like crack for white people.
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>>174444834
I've probably put 2000+ hours into pirated Victoria 2 since 2013

You're here forever
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>>174441639
>>174442214
Fuck, I had to cede one shitty province to papals in the end and release a vassal with one province somewhere in germany so whatever. Finally italy is united to some degree.
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How the fuck can you defeat Ming as Manchu in Mandate of Heaven?

The entire DLC is fucking broken.
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>>174445330
Git gud
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>>174444804
>They didn't actually have as many nukes as they said
This is actually easy to independently verify. Lots of nuke sites are secret, but enough of them aren't that it is easy to see that the nuclear capabilities of both countries were very high at one time. Plus there are thousands of workers who were directly employed in the manufacture, maintenance, and operation of nuclear weapons over the decades, both civilian and military, who can verify what they saw.

>they never intended to use them
Of course they didn't, that would be completely irrational. Do you not understand MAD?

>they just wanted a scared population that was easy to control.
They were responsible for scaring each other's populations, but politicians in both countries took advantage of the threat posed by the other to build careers on fear-mongering. The same thing happens to this day. Donald Trump and Putin both benefit from fear of ISIS, but does that mean they made ISIS up as a hoax? Of course not. They are just taking advantage of the situation that naturally exists. If it weren't ISIS, it would be North Korea or Hamas or your pick of terrorists de jour.
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ahahahaha get fucked
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Oh hey, looks like I got made into a pasta again. Thanks!
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>>174444834
I actually hate grand strategy games with a passion and think they're utter garbage but I still can't overcome the urge to play them every week or to and end up losing twenty to thirty consecutive hours each time I succumb to it. I've only been coming here for the past several years to laugh at the pathetic state of this collection of human failures and participate in the collective self-deprecation.

Better get used to it.
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>>174444834

You know what makes grand strategy games even better?

Amphetamines.
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>>174445718
I really want to see what happens once they crumble. Once the war starts dragging on for more than two years they will have rebels fucking everywhere
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>>174446000
Trips don't lie, but I find a nice sativa works too.
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>>174445136
Why the fuck does the flag have the arms of Savoy in it when they're still shitty mountain-dwelling pseudo-frog vassals of the sausage emperor?
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>>174445081
>>174445096
>>174445862
>>174446000
Well, so far I'm 4 levels ahead in everything during the 1470s so that sounds about right, I figured it would just ramp up from there. Ah well, I guess maybe I should just play behind-the-scenes meddling? As an administrative republic I can't even become the emperor or get any royal marriages (so the only way to vassalize others is through warfare) so I guess the only way to find anything to actually DO is to put my money and spies to use and screw with all my neighbors?

>Dont forget to pick up mods for EU3 once you get the ropes.
That was the plan, but the ropes are far more engrossing than I expected. I figure I could do 20 or so saves with just the base version and still find something compelling to try. With mods, I might still be playing this a decade from now.
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>>174446135
I thought eu3 sucked and eu4 isn't much better. One was obtuse and the other is too simple.
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>>174446017

they're gonna win that shit

especially since i'm gonna jump the spanish once my heavy ships are back from the phillipines
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>>174446112
Because I swapped out the flag for one from vicky
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>>174446053

>48 hour grand strategy/masturbation marathons

Nothing quite like it.
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>>174444734
Yes
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>>174444834
>retards are responding to copypasta
wew
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>>174443914
Because fuck you thats why
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Ok so apparently my heir is somehow feudal despite me having a tribal kingdom. I didn't know having your heir in a mercenary band could cause this, all I wanted was some easy starting prestige.

Question is, how fix? Another heir isn't a feasible option since the feudal guy is so perfect and my current ruler so old. Is there a console command with which I could just delete the feudal flag? This is game-ruining and I'd rather not start all over.
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>>174435916
Yes you should
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MEIOU & TAXES 2 WHEN?
I WANT TO CREATE A NICE COMFY HOMELAND FOR THE BENGALI PEOPLE
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>>174447485
>no pol shit in thread
>brings up pol shit
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>my king gets cucked by a courtier
>try to get a divorce

FUCKING CATHOLICS REEE

PROTESTANTISM CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH I'LL GET MY OWN DIVORCE
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>>174445862
I haven't played a grand strategy game in probably over a year, never played much of them before that either, maybe have 300 hours clocked in ck2, another 100 in vicky 2 and little bit in HOI III and EU IV and yet I still keep coming here for whatever fucking reason.

>>174444834
>15-20 hours
Are you a NEET or something? God I wish I could be one too.
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>>174447912
>God I wish I could be one too.
It's not that great...
sigh
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Which one lads?
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>>174448101
Korea
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>>174447912
>God I wish I could be one too.
It's not really something to aspire to. I dropped out of grad school and I've been "transitioning" for a full year by now, but I'm still no closer to finding a job than I was on day one.
My life is worth nothing at this point.
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>>174448939

I would love to be a NEET or get euthanized

don't want to achieve anything at all
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>>174448101
Shimazu
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>>174448037
Beats the regimented life if you're a spaz like I am.

How do you support yourself? Are you a 'murrican with dem lauded NEETbux or just someone with really (un)caring parents?

>>174448939
>aspirations

Nigger, I just want glue my face to the computer and never leave my room, being a "contributing member of society" is a fucking meme.
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I've been at war with Scotland for near 20 years, all because they took a colony near me. I got bored and sent a 100k army to remind them not to fuck with me.
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>>174449374
Parents yeah, i can't get neetbuc since i'm a dirty third worlder
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>>174448101
korea
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Going to start in Charlememe, change title from Francia to Saxony, convert to pagan, build nothing but heavy infantry and heavy cavalry, and call my kingdom the Iron March
Thoughts?
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I have asked a couple times what import costs do in vicky2, and I have been getting uninformed shitty answers that they are basically tariffs, but that is not correct. Does anyone, perhaps a modder, know what they ACTUALLY do instead of relying on vague speculation? Opinions are like assholes etc etc
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>>174449858
They improve liquor throughput.
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>>174449651

SA?

br*zillian here
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>>174449858
from speculation+experience:

it is exactly what it sounds, but only for your pops. if 1 unit of liquor costs 10 cash, +50% import costs makes it cost 15, making it harder for your pops to buy it and vice versa for negative import costs.

it doesn't affect the price of what countries buy. it doesn't give tariff income.
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>>174449531
Made them a tributary to China and annexed Hawaii and Wake. Would have taken more but the retarded call for peace modifier started.
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>>174450265
do you convert your provinces to chink culture or accept them?
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>>174450161
Then where does that 5 extra go, is that money destroyed from the game or created from nothing in the case of LF? I suppose I may have to take your word for it, as I have reached no conclusion based on tests.

Then I found this http://oldforum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?496215-Changing-quot-import_cost-quot

and its yet another shitty incomplete vague answer "capitalists AND factories only", what does that mean? Capitalists are the ones who pay the factory budget, therefore they are the only ones that have to deal with the import cost? I'm just very confused about this
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>>174446017
>>174446501

something is crumbling but it ain't the turks
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>get aspiration for liberty disaster despite not being in europe
>whole empire now goes batshit insane
>all because we haven't embraced western liberalism that has nothing to do with china
is there anythign paradox cant do
>>174450441
Accept.
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Im rather curious about how history actually worked during the EU4 time period.

Did countries actually absorb and fight eachother at such a rate? How did locals deal with their lieges changing?

I assume they just didn't care and nationalism actually wasnt a widespread thing?
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>Game suddenly starts chugging along at low FPS
>Extremely Fast speed is acting like Normal/Above Normal
I haven't seen DH perform this poorly since Modern Day Mod was updated for 2017. I think it has to do with the Americans having 600+ Divs, Soviets having 500 Divisions, the Indians having 300, and the Chinese having god knows how many.
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>>174450893
This is a balanced game.
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>>174444834
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>>174448101
Shimazu is based.
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>>174450620
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Is It Just Me Or Does gsg As A Genre Feel Dead Without HPM's Prescense?
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Should I build market places in centers of trade or is that a waste of money and investment?
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Is there a download link for Mandate of Heaven yet?
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>>174450620
>Papal Chile
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Based Erdogan
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>>174437808

Is this a reference to that Jackie Chan movie?

Drunken Master or something.
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>>174451121
I didn't even change government, this just memed me for no reason.
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Isn't he H A W T
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>>174451119

Happened to me too. Every time it hit midnight it would chug for a second or so.

Got so annoying I had to start a new game.
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>>174438802
>>174270207
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>>174452009
Umudu Aisin Gioro Aisin Gioro is based. He will lead our people to a new golden age.
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>>174452108
>radical socialists
wew lad, really makes you think. what mod?
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I think I got memed on guys
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WHICH ONE?

>>174452356
KR
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i dream of the day when no spaniard will ever again see the ocean

now i've got them locked out of six of the seven seas
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>>174452642

this game is so incredibly unaesthetic
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>>174452657
Annex.
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Is there any coming back from this? Any suggestions on what to do? I can't produce divisions fast enough as I have to make a shit load of fighters to defend the the UK from getting bombed.

Playing as UK obviously.
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we found it

the remotest place on earth

nice job guys
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>>174452778
That's true, the UI is horrible, the map is even worse than unmodded EU4's map and the music is underwhelming compared to their other games. Even fucking Stellaris has better map/music than this shit

As for the gameplay, yeah.
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>>174452889
>the remotest
as one would expect from a subhuman playing eu4
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>>174453069
t.urk
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>>174452923

gameplay is shit too, everything is a downgrade

even paracuckplaza complains 24/7 about it
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>>174453069

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/remote

feel free to kys any time
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>>174446423
>mfw had to google word obtuse
Nah, EU3 has a decent curve but its an archaic game. EU4 did streamline it a bit but it changed the base game model that was the same for first 3 games and thats why people are pissed off.

Its like comparing DH do HoI IV
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>>174453341
>>mfw had to google word obtuse
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>>174453620
When was the last time you saw some other guy using it lad?
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>>174453341
I seriously hope you aren't a native English speaker.
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>>174452332
Based Umudu has completed the conquest of Japan.
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>>174453341
>Its like comparing DH do HoI IV

yeah, one is a good game and the other is utter shit, incomplete AND overpriced
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>>174452318
Epic anon been following the whole time
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>>174452878
VINCERE INTENSIFIES
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How's the music contained in the Vicky 2 music DLC? As great as the normal music is, there's so few tracks it gets so repetitive and I'm starting, after years, admittedly, to get sick of it. I don't know of any music mods for Vicky so I was thinking of buying the DLC at the next big sale, are the songs there as good as the vanilla soundtrack?
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>>174453785

obtuse is Latin-derived

he's probably a slav
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Can someone tell me, in depth, how to industrialize in Victoria 2? Like, what factories to build and what techs to prioritize? I'm playing hpm if it matters
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>>174454209
OMG hahahAHAHhaha..... just build LIQUOR my dear Anonymous
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>>174454209

literacy and let the capitalist pigs do it for you
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>>174453998
Why does the Brit have a dick on his forehead?
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>>174453998
just put files intothe /music folder
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>>174454209
Here's the best thing to do
>no taxes on rich
>moderate tariffs (only if you have good RGOs)
>focus purely on raising literacy; keeping intellectuals at 4% in each state

commerce techs are kind of useless until the late game, but they do help your capitalists deal with costs. mostly focus on industry techs

if your factories struggle to profit, lower tariffs.
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>>174454209
clipper factories all the way my dude
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>>174453998

>not listening to a literary or history podcast while playing grand strategies.

What's wrong with you?
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>>174454532

>ever touching the tariff slider

fuck off commie
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>>174454209
Literacy above 40% for craft,above 70% for clerks, produce what you import the most then luxury stuff like liquor,cement and machine tools.
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>japanese AI
What did it mean by this?
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>>174454585

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnSrpJJbmWs

my jam when playing DH
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should I let the r*ach connect with mamluks early considering they're allied with france so it's likely I won't be profiting from them butting heads?
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>>174454798
>Communist China

Teach me your ways fampai.
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>>174454798
Jap AI keep the Home Islands undefended, leading to burgers easily overruning them with 2 infantry corps.
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>>174445330
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Unguarded_Nomadic_Frontier
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oh come on now you're just taunting me
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>>174445330

getting good

you newfaggots haven't even done a full France run and want to dominate a new mechanic facefront
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>>174454798
Maybe if paradox AI wasn't incapable of using navies this wouldn't happen.
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>>174442809
This map hasn't been relevant since 1985.
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>>174445330
use horse
ming = dead
praise tengri
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>>174452318
Nice

Only your southern border is a bit weird but other than that nice job.
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>>174456634
This is a more accurate map for today.
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>>174452318
>>174453961
Time for border autism now.

Red is what i see i must take before this game ends, russian clay are my cores, and Oder-Neisse border for polish lebensraum, Bessarabia for Black sea.

Green is likely expansion, grab my cores from Austria-Hungary after i've made sure i can lose them as a ally, clean up my Black sea border, take Estonia and lastly Brandenburg for memes

Blue is obviously autism mode.

Tripoli as soon as i can get casus bellis again.

>that egypt
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>>174454868
beautiful
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Alright, lads, time to release a Jap puppet state, what should be the capital?
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R888
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>>174457371
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>174457149
okinawa
the empire of greater ryukyu must rise
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>>174457426
Don't be fucking retarded.
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WHICH
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>>174454996
First lower your neutrality and dont disband army. I have seen some people to do it but it takes too much time to build a new one, because:

Attack Shanxi as soon as possible. At the beginning your neutrality is 100 so you must do everything you can to lower it so you can attack before Japanese occupy them. Raise threat on them and nationalists. I must admit that i used noneutrality cheat to be able to attack them on time, since japs were coming. I think it is posiible to do it without cheating too, if you just kill their spies quicky and then concentrate only and completely on raising threat.

Dont be afraid to go to war with nationalists, since they are weak and by the time they are at war with japan already. Just leave some militia to guard your border. Rush to Shanxis VPs. Shanxi is important because they have one very rich province, which gives so much MP to you. After that i took Xibei or whatever the western neighbor is. This maybe is not necessary because they dont provide that much IC or MP but even little bit is good for C-China. Then just push to Nat China territory. They are weak after Japanese attack and while they look big, they dont have many cities left. Take the city below C-China while they are still fighting japs and you are one city richer.

Use rivers to fortify and build more men. I found militia quite useful because they are fast to build. Dont forget to build some 3 INF + 1 ART tho because they are the backbone of your river crossings etc general attacking. If you are not retarded you should be able to research actually useful tech which gives you advantage. Against japanese i think militia is outdated and rather useless. I would have upgraded them if i had time but as you can see i was in hurry because USA landed on japan and i wanted to take my cores before japan surrenders.

>Whats in the screenshot?
Retarded AI dont pull their forces from China to defend mainland Japan.
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>>174457601
Rightful clay, take it all.
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>>174457609

>autism
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>>174457702
>>>/r/paradoxpalza
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>>174447513

So it's just a bug: https://steamcommunity.com/app/203770/discussions/0/133261907141844059/

Fucking Paradox.
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>>174457609
Oh and i didnt join Comintern because USSR has enough problems with Germany alone, which BTW didnt call Japs to war against russia. Russia would also probably steal your cores in Manchuria and i want all my cores unified. Thats like the goal of my game.
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>>174457601
give it to the jews
maybe they fuck off then
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How do you marry into big titles in CK2? I'm Ireland and I married two of my kids to the thrones of England and Scotland and everything was going well but then those limey bastards changed from primo to elective and now my grandchildren are useless. Is there any way to stop this?
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>>174457728

you can tell us you just encirclememed to victory
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>>174457781

Not a whole lot you can do to influence some other realm's inheritance laws, unfortunately. You got played, dawg.

Be a sore loser and murder the elected new king, at least.
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Is Hearts of Iron 4 very hard to mod?
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>>174457865
I wasn't even him, I'm just sick of redditors like yourself playing casual games and shitting on real ones.
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>>174458209
No.
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r8 this gr8 war
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>>174458271

100x respectfully disagree
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>>174452878

pls respond
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>>174458427
stillnotquiteworldwar1/10
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>>174458497
ew wtf
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>>174457865
Not me and i didnt only a couple of minor encirclements.

When Japan attacks allies it should pull out some troops from China, so it makes attack easier. If you have time, by all means upgrade your army and prepare. You probably knew but artillery is crazy good in this game as any country and it is madness that AI doesnt use that often support brigades. As I said i thought Japs would actually be reasonable and retreat but they decided that China means everything to them and if i should guess im atm fighting their main army. They have something down in Burma too. I have border patrol in Japanese Indochinese border but i havent seen any of them yet there. If i had time to prepare to lets say until 1943 or even 1944 it would be much easier task. Encirclements against Japanese seems to be a must thing to do. Many docks make them hard tho. Definitely not an easy playthrough but interesting and fun. Recuiress much micromanaging, but your army is so small that it doesnt bother too much. Good luck everyone trying this. I havent played past that screenshot. Well, only a little. Japs lost Tokyo and guess where their capital is now? Beiping. Even though they still have their southern islands which are equal in victory points. What a meme nation.
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>>174459010
I did only a couple of encirclements*
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>>174458942

careful with the words there mate, you're talking to the makers of your favorite map painting simulator
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>>174458940
It was way more extreme. I invaded southern Africa and had to fight my whole way up to Germany. Kazakhstan saw at least 800 total divisions die between Germany and China.
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>>174459368
Good lad.
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>>174459370
Genuinely don't understand how wars get that bad in Victoria 2, combat just moves way the hell too quickly for and real damage to happen
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My goal for this AAR was reconquering all of the British Empire and puppeting the rest of the world/playing world police and winning the Space Race. It's so laggy now I can't bring myself to finish it.

Who should I play in KR boys?
Or should I do a World in Flames III or Modern Day Mod playthrough?
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>>174459686
Nationalist China started with 1400 divisions and ended with 150
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>>174459010
China is also fun to play beacuse after the first conquer you have basically as much MP as your IC can consume and thats something that european nations can never enjoy.
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Finally I got my initial war with muscovy into a winning one. What do I do now?
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>>174459867
Republic Russia.
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What's generally the more fun nation to play as to form Prussia? Cucktonic Knights, Pommerania or Saxony?
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>>174457149
It is decided for administrative purposes Korea and Japan should be freed, but to prevent future revolution amongst them two provisions are made.

1. Korea is a Manchu minority rule state. Koreans are second class citizens in their own peninsula and the Manchu still rule every aspect of day to day life there.

2. Japan looses Hokkaido and several "搶灘", these are a series of ports all along Japan that reamin under direct control of the Qing empire and in the event of rebellion will be used as landing grounds for our troops. They are not yet known to be permanent or not, that will be decided on how cooperative the Japanese are with the new arrangement.
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>You will never pledge your life to the Kaiser
>You will never answer the call to defend the beauty of the German Rhine
>You will never charge through French artillery with a cry of "Gott Mit Uns" on your lips
>You will never see the life fade from a Godless frenchman's eyes as you run the bayonet through his chest and deliver him straight to hell.
>You will never die knowing that your blood allowed the fatherland to live on
No reason to even live in this time period desu.
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>>174459798
The thing that gets me though is that just in Europe there were more soldiers dying than that, but in Vicky you need to bring in a mobilized China to reach close to that number.
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>>174460243
>Playing Qing
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>>174458497

Where was this picture taken?
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>>174460237

>eu4
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>>174460281
Germany lost more. Occitania fielded at least 600 brigades and lost them all against me in Ukraine. Not arguing, just informing you of the details. This was the craziest Vicky war ever,
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>>174460415
Well in Vicky that is by far the largest I've ever seen, so good on you.
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>>174460415
Me again. France also lost around 1000 brigades
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>>174460249
>lost
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>>174460404

Düsseldorf
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>>174452318
>>174457103
white and based
but you should stick to modern poland western border imo
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Thinking of switching over to Cathar somehow, is there anything special about it? Anything to make it worthwhile other than "lol im a heresy"?
Catholicism is weak AF and there's heresy everywhere.
>>
>2016 + 1
>still no competition against parameme

is it that unprofitable to make gsgs?
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>>174460243
>NIHON
It looks like a koi, and is strangely appealing. Nicely done.

See, this is how you world police.
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>>174461102
forgot image
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T H I C C
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>>174460249
Grossgermanium pod racing
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>ming attacks buryatia to make them a tributary
>accept call to not take prestige and diplo hit thinking it would be a quick war
>cant seperate peace
>ming isnt even touching buryats

pls leave me alone
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>>174460237
Bump for non-meme answers
>>174461102
Absolute cognatic, female clergymen and military commanders.
It's super boring outside of those funny bits, absolute cognatic also makes keeping all your titles a pain.
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>tfw no german DFC petite gsg gf
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>>174457103
>in that timeline Polish Egyptologists rule the academic world
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>>174461173
I was trying to make it look like Palestine.
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>>174461454
Poor little Manchu
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>>174459010
Probably last C-China tips:
You will lack metal so research it. Rush southern warlords after Nat China. Free IC, resources and MP
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Literally had 5,5mil pops 1month ago before starting gasing italians and mudslimes
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paradoxplaza is w$b

what about you, /gsg/?
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>>174461515
What's the best Christian sect to play then?
Is it just Catholic?
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>>174462110
They're sweden not germans you stupid krautboo
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>>174461682
>Ming takes my province in war
>decides to give it back next month
T...thanks
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>>174462156
Fraticelli is nice because you can install your own Pope if you conquer Rome while being just a king instead of emperor.
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>>174462268

that event was in germany
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>>174457073
Can I get the source on that? I want to zoom in farther because some of the dots are extremely close to where I live.
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>>174457103
fascist poland when
>>
So how do I even kill Ming. It seems like such an impossible task this expansion.
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>>174462547
how about you tell us which fukin country you're playin first huh
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>>174462110
>tfw no gs gf
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>>174461867
wew, went from 80+% Italian to this. All italian provinces and Alexandria usually have 1mil+ pops by this year.

Border gore fixing is still in progress.
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>>174462715

>you'll never have a qt laugh at your ironic gross germanium shitpost
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>>174462672
I forgot the image sorry.

I feel like even if I eat Buryats and all of korea it still wont be enough.

Also I cant maintain a decent army and make money. I cant utilize my cav ratio against them purely because I'm poor as fuck and raiding just barely maintains it at war.
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>>174462821
>86% literacy
>5 NFs
>8% craftsmen
Why
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>>174462987
Conquer Ming.
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>>174462987
they get disaster event if they border huge horde so you get more clay
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>>174462821
>He went for fucking Italy rather than Anatolia.
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alright you fucking NORMIES i'm hosting a HOI3 mp match with Flavormod, who's interested?
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>>174462821
why aren't you byzantium yet??
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>>174463361

he's a memester who doesn't want "non-whites" in his a ebin empire (praise KEK DEUS VULT)
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>>174462821
>killing fellow mediteranneans because WE WUZ GREEK SOUTH ITALIUMS
literally reedit-tier
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>>174448101
Shizmazu
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>be dai nam
>going bretty good economy, +300 on avg even with military, education and admin sliders all the way up
>get sphered by uncle sam
>instantly my economy is tanking hard

why is this
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>>174463709

it's a bad game, anon
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>>174463709

>he still plays liqqy 2
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>>174447725
>Enrique de trastama appears
Have you issued the restraint of appeals?
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>>174463836
>>174463765
le steamgruppe face
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>mfw when someone doesn't buy EU4 and all DLCs

Tell him to wait for a sale and buy at these prices:

>EU IV Base game: $ 9.99
>DLC Conquest of Paradise: $ 5.09
>DLC Wealth of Nation: $3.39
>DLC Res Publica: $1.69
>DLC Art of War: $6.79
>DLC El Dorado: $5.09
>DLC Common Sense: $5.09
>DLC Cossacks: $6.79
>DLC Mare Nostrum: $5.09
>Collection: Includes 'Pre Order Pack', 'Digital Extreme Upgrade Pack', 'American Dream' and 'Call-to-Arms Pack' : $9.99

Sum until here: $59.00 which is imho more than a fair price for a game that is in constant development since 3.5 years! The Collection adds flavor and is not even needed at all, which would even lower the price to $49. Tell the person to switch back to version 1.17.1 in Steam which is most recent patch before RoM.

Nobody needs to be at the latest update when just starting out. There is so much to learn for newcomers to the game anyway, but to complete it:

>DLC Rights of Man: $13.39
>DLC Mandate of Heaven: $19.99

Now somebody tell me again that EU4 complete until Mare Nostrum isn't worth $49 or $59.

It's arguable that a lot of these DLCs aren't even needed which would lower the price even more, but I listed and added them up in the order they have been released.

And FUCK PEDOPHILES!
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>>174463154
Not enough Greek pops for more than 5NFs, also Greeks are too fking lazy to work in factories I have no idea why, they just don't promote and gasing kills your industry anyway, unless you have very few minoraties in the first place.

>>174463361
There is so much infamy Greece can handle. Also with the fear of italians unifying it made sense to strike them early, take their precious resources and use it for later conquest of Anatolia.

>>174463435
>>174463480
>>174463530
>hehe he expands beyond his cores and doesn't sit at 5+speed for the rest of the game "micromanaging" his liquor factories.

kys desu
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>>174463935
>buying games
>buying DLC
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>>174450794
>Hungary just avoided
Wonder what that patch will bring
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>>174463765
>>174463836
it's literally the only paradox game worth playing
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>>174447725
Is it even possible to get a divorce from this event?
Even with Rome at +200 relations and controlling the curia you just get a different message of the Vatican going "i'm sorry" before saying no.

Ultimately keeping things quiet is just a 10 prestige loss without any future repercussions. I just accept getting cucked.
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>>174463935
>guys, when it's 50-75% off it's totally a fair price!
If you don't see what's wrong with that statement then I cannot help you.
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>>174464040
>he expands beyond his cores
>in the wrong direction
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>>174463935
>full game costs $200
>he defends this
>muh sales
kys
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>>174450967
Territory only changed much in the new world
In the old world it was politics, Luke freedom of religion and bourbon Spain
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>>174464040
But seriously, do you plan on becoming Byzantium later on? It's basically a requirement for any Greek playthrough.
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>>174464073

that would be Europa Unversalis 4
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>>174464335
t. Johan
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About to play Stellaris for the first time, anything I should know?
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>>174464047
Fuck off poorfag
I actually like to SUPPORT great developers like Paradox!

>>174464123
>>174464223
The game is always at a fair price, or do you not think THOUSANDS of yours of gameplay are worth $200?!
Sales just help you get even more hours per $.
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>>174464073
>le steamcordplaza face
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>>174463935
t. Paradox employee
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>>174464441
you should know you are in the wrong fucking thread
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>>174464401

buy the dlcs lad, it's a fun game!
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>>174464573

this is paradox general though.
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>>174464545
I wish.

Could you imagine working for such an amazing company?Hell, I they wouldn't even need to pay me!Just letting me play their games early would be enough.
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>>174464452
Fuck off, Johan.
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>>174464169
Borders are work in progress

>>174464249
you can't in HPM
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I-is this a good meme, /gsg/?
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>>174463709
When you get sphered you're instantly part of your overlord's internal market, meaning you do not apply any tariffs to incoming resources you buy from your overlord. Since USA/GB both typically cover every single thing your pops might want to import, you'll get nothing from tariffs.
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>>174464675
no it's not you fucking retard
>>174464789
>not playing based unHPM
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>>174464707
Fuck off, Pedophile.
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>>174463375
tfw
...maybe this weekend?
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>>174464819
at least try to make it similar
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>>174464819

Background needs to be a map of bordergore or something.
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>>174464819
try to get a better font that actually looks like ABSOLUTELY
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Am I doing ok? I hope Muscovy will be weak now that I took moskva in the second war.
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>>174465256
If you took Moscow and their super general is dead then you've got it.
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>>174465420
He must be gone, because I saw no two star monster running around chopping off heads left and right when I bested him just now with help from hordes.
Feels good desu. Only took 4 restarts, nothing too frustrating. Now maybe I can think about what I'm going to do about being too big as a republic. Should I just change government? I assume there is no alternative? It would be nice to keep the merchant republic modifiers.
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the bordergore will sort itself out soon right?
Right?
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>>174464986
S U N D A Y
U
N
D
A
Y
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>>174464819
>>174465010
>>174465042
>>174465123
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>>174465997
I envy you, I never got a good start for Novgorod.
I'm trying to play Great Horde instead but it's tough.
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>>174466105
ew
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>>174466105
>that crop
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>Novapaddy nuked every download of Putin Mod
For what fucking purpose?
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>>174467262
>unironically supporting assad after he killed babies with chemical weapons
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>>174467572
Look bud I just want to play the German Imperial restoration event chains he was working on.

Or the "Western European Union versus Eastern European Union" shit.
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>>174466767
It's extremely hard. I played on speed 3 and moved around very carefully. It was much harder than the byzantium start, surprisingly. I hope golden horde isn't going to eat the rest of muscovy and become another monster for me to beat. I actually didn't wait for my second war, I DOWed him breaking the peace because I wanted to take him when he was weak and when one of the hordes would join in. It was worth it.

Am I tanking the republic tradition or not? What's the point in being a russian republic if you aren't allowed to blob.
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>>174467572
t.rump
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>>174467692
i was just larping as a cuck tbvqh lad
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>>174458427
>start date 1941
>end date 1949
what the fuck?
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>>174467572

> janny baiting /pol/

smart man
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>>174467696
Merchant republic is only good for one thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwd5gMnVdiQ
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What cunt should I play, /gsg/

>Germany
>Russia
>France
>Britain
>Ottomemes
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>>174467840
Actually I'm /pol/ baiting /pol/
6,000,000D rugby
>>
Is ruler/heir general ability tied to army tradition or their own military points?
I remember EU3 being tied to their military skill but it feels like that in EU4 it's just tradition.
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>>174467957
It's going too fast for me to understand the gist of this exploit.
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>>174468030

/pol/ too

but i'd like to have sex with black women
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>>174468335
holy shit same
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Is it just me or is mid-late game trade just totally fucked in EU4? Embracing global trade should enable nations to steer trade around a node rather than through it instead of the retarded +1 merchant that it currently does. It's ridiculous that European nations can't make any money off colonies in India or South East Asia without first controlling the Gulf of Aden, Zanzibar, The Cape and the Ivory Coast. Global trade isn't every fucking global when its still restricted to old world trade routes and backwater Arab and African shitholes become the richest places on Earth because of the arbitrary way trade works.
This way for example, the Netherlands could make money by having a prescense in the Cape and then colonies in Indonesia as they could steer the trade directly from the latter to the former and then back to the English Channel instead of losing all of their money in Zanzibar and the Ivory Coast as they would in a current game.
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>>174468012
Japan
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>>174468012
Montenegro, go for yugoslavia borders w/ Albania & Bulgaria

>>174468030
>>174468335
>>174468397
stop spoilering and kill yourselves you race-traitors.
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>>174468270
going from oligarchic republic to merchant resets disasters and estate options
coupled with 85% stability cost reduction, he's demanding money, manpower and mana from estates, going back to merchant, then going back to oligarchic and demanding all that stuff again while still maintaining a profit in admin power
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>>174468438
They include Japan but it's not actually on the map as far as I know.

>>174468468
The minors have >lmao no events
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Why red penalty thingy is drawn? Also fuck Ming, 2k manpower and then 45 mercenaries.
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>>174468335
/pol/ here and I solely watch BLACKED.com because the taboo of seeing our women being stolen by filthy niggers makes me so fucking hard.
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>>174468418
>pernambuco trade node only leads to gold coast when historically it was the center of sugar cane exports to europe
epic
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>>174468468

You're probably a pole who only saw fat african old grannies

If you lived in SA and saw ebony goddesses everyday you wouldn't think it is that easy
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>>174468749
have you tried
complaining about it to johan?
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>>174468727

t. arumba
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>>174468418
>It's ridiculous that European nations can't make any money off colonies in India or South East Asia without first controlling the Gulf of Aden, Zanzibar, The Cape and the Ivory Coast

but controlling those routes was actually super-important irl?

i would like to see some way to reverse the flow between two nodes though, like if one node is twice as big as the other the flow direction flips
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>>174468749
Exactly. It's retarded that you are restricted to the same trade nodes throughout the entire game. The whole point of global trade was that Europeans btfo the old trade routes by creating their own new ones and bypassing many old centres of trade because they were no longer necessary.

>>174468912
I'm not saying that you shouldn't have to control trade nodes, just not every single one. You shouldn't have to blob all over Africa to make money from India.
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>>174468749
Yeah having no south american nodes that lead directly to Europe is fucked
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>>174469006
You do know you can collect in Goa, right?
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>>174468550
>>174468438
Here's the mighty nation of Japan in all it's glory :^)
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>>174469006

you don't. just send some ships and get the COT provinces.

hell cape you don't need to care about at all since anyone who colonizes it will want the trade going to europe anyway
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>May 5, 1912
With tensions in Europe rising the General Staff has seen fit to petition the Reichstag for additional funds which will provide the Army with two new army groups and allow the continued expansion of the Navy
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>>174469410
What game is this? Would recommend?
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>>174460249

Where is Alsace-Lorraine?
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>>174469629

gotta say, winged bowling-pins is a real novel heraldic symbol
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>>174469584
World in Flames III for DH
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Starting as the Papal States, the most logical thing to do is really fuck up Sardinia-Piedmont at the start using France since they're not yet in the sphere.

If I try to use a puppet casus belli, France always add 'free Sardinia', peace out with that and I end up with nothing, so should I try to take the Savoie region or Sardinia? Or even just do something with low infamy and accept the breakup of S-P from what France do anyway since it prevents them becoming GP?

France never get to Two Sicilies fast enough to make them a target because I get completely overrun, so I have to start with S-P in some way. Any advice?
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BTFO
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>>174469410
The state budget is the military budget
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>>174470182

are you using any mod to extend the end date?
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>tfw no vicky vn
>>
SOMEONE HELP ME PLAY DISTANT WORLDS
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174470736
>the quality of their games hoes down dramatically
>to alleviate this they watse their time making shitty memes
>redditors eat it up
What an absolutely atrocious fanbase. So much for ethical consumption.
>>
>>174470962

could you calm down
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>>174464573
Just report and ignore him
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>>174471068
could you GO BACK
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>>174470962
>the quality of their games hoes down dramatically
>to alleviate this they watse their time making shitty memes
>redditors eat it up
What an absolutely atrocious fanbase. So much for ethical consumption.
>>
>>174468418
>It's ridiculous that European nations can't make any money off colonies in India or South East Asia without first controlling the Gulf of Aden, Zanzibar, The Cape and the Ivory Coast.
You can
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>>174471127
>>174471105
>the quality of their games hoes down dramatically
>to alleviate this they watse their time making shitty memes
>redditors eat it up
What an absolutely atrocious fanbase. So much for ethical consumption.
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>September 18, 1912
While the Italians push the Ottomans out of North Italy the Balkan League has issued an ultimatum to the Turks demanding sweeping reforms in Macedonia. The Ottomans, seeing the reforms as the beginning of the end of the empire, refused the ultimatum and mobilized all forces in the region. Responding to the mobilization the Balkan League has declared war. Journalists from around the world flock to cover the war while military observers watch on eagerly. Vienna and Berlin, however, are gravely concerned with the possibility of a new order in the Balkans.
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>>174471276
>out of North Italy
Oy gevalt I meant North Africa
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>>174471276
is this dh or hoi2?
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Cannot say I've seen this before
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>>174471127

I think I will actually

did rather deal with not saying "remove kebab" on paracuckplaza than getting warned on /gsg/ for posting off-topic whilst steamgruppe can post literally people shitting in each other's mouth unsupervised
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>>174471528
>steamcordplaza make redditors go back
Are they, dare I say it, /our group/?
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>>174471212
How? you don't make any tax off them and any trade value is lost so all that's left is production which isn't worth the cost of acquiring and maintaining the provinces without serious investment.
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>>174471620
>the quality of their games hoes down dramatically
>to alleviate this they watse their time making shitty memes
>redditors eat it up
What an absolutely atrocious fanbase. So much for ethical consumption.
>>
>>174471690
>How?
Put a merchant in Indus, tell it to collect
>you don't make any tax off them
You do
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>October 18, 1912
Concerned over the possibility of a Serbian invasion of Albania, the Austro-Hungarians have appealed to the Kaiser to support them in the event of an expanded war with Russia.

In a limited meeting with the Imperial War Council the Kaiser heard the opinions of Moltke the Younger and Admiral Tirpitz.
Moltke asserts that while the Russians are rapidly modernizing and expanding their military they are not yet a threat to a combined German-Austrian front and that an immediate war with Russia is the best possible course of action. Moltke further says that the French are likely to come to their Russian allies aide and that a preemptive attack on both nations is ideal.

On the contrary, Admiral Tirpitz claims that the British are likely to come to the aid of France or Russia in the event of a general war. The likely hood of such an event puts a great deal of importance on the ability of the High Sea Fleet to transit quickly between the North and Baltic Seas, as well as being able to meet the British in open battle. To this end Tirpitz says that any conflict should be put off until both the Navy programme and Kiel Canal expansion are complete in 1914.

>Go Tirpitz's way
>Go Moltke's way
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>>174471912
Collecting in your non-home province halves your trade power though I can't iamgine that to be profitably at all.
As for tax trade companies give -100% tax income otherwise you are eating the -33% tax income modifier for unnacepted culture as well as the minimum autonomy which is likely ot be 75%.
So the only way to make tax money would be to take the province, core it, make it a state and then core it again and then spend eons culture converting it all for mediocre returns in the end.
>>
Do you really have to wait 10 years for those favors to build up every single time you start as a OPM so you can have allies?
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>>174472428
>Collecting in your non-home province halves your trade power though I can't iamgine that to be profitably at all.

eh, it can be. you'll probably need some ideas to boost your trade though
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>>174472608

you could also promise territory

sure this means you won't get much out of the war unless you really carry your weight but them's the breaks
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>>174472150
T I R P I T Z
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>>174472742
My enemies are mostly OPMs too so using that option forces me to break a promise and then get nobody allying me for even longer.
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>>174472849

hire some mercs and kick their ass yourself
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>>174472150
Moltke is the best way. The Royal Navy doesn't matter, but more (and better) Russian and French divisions makes it more difficult.
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>>174472896
I tried but they then called their 5 OPM allies which all blobbed despite me wiping their stacks due to magical economy and my tiny army being able to siege one OPM at a time and they wrecked me.
now i got conquered rip me
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>>174472849
it's temporary
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>>174473002

sounds like you need a better target, or to stiff your ally

which sucks and does mean that they'll hate you and almost never trust you again, but other nations don't care super much about it, and hey, more land
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Why aren't there any catholic rebels?
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>>174472428
>I can't iamgine that to be profitably at all.
You have shit imagination.
50% > 0%

>So the only way to make tax money would be to take the province, core it, make it a state and then core it again and then spend eons culture converting it all for mediocre returns in the end.
So the only way to make tax from a province is to do the same thing you do with provinces everywhere.
Except for the culture convert part, you can just accept a few cultures.
>>
hpm crashes when I hit single player, how do I fix this?
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>>174473632

uninstall HPM
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>>174473632
are you using the latest HPM and the latest V2 (3.04)?
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>>174473258

why would there be? as orthodox your intolerance shouldn't be too bad
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>>174473632
install gentoo
>>
hpm or vickymod?
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>>174473693
I unironically can't, it tells me I need administrator permission to modify the file, even though I'm on my computers admin account
>>174473791
yep
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>>174473963
haha wtf
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>>174473794
Because I took a catholic province and it has a lot of unrest. I thought they would spawn.
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>September 15, 1913
With increasing tensions in the Balkans and the expansion of conscription in France the Command Staff has decided to declare a "war-risk situation."
This allows a partial mobilization of frontier units to maneuver themselves into advantageous positions along likely enemy avenues of advance to hold them while a general mobilization takes place.
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>>174473963
>it tells me I need administrator permission to modify the file
lmao, what

anyway, have you tried deleting your map cache folder in your HPM documents folder?
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>>174473963

you can't be this tech illiterate and also into gsgs

I think it's an actually impossible combination
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>>174474052

as you can see, unless they're angry for religious reasons you're just gonna get separatists

if you're actually trying for zealots you could always stick a missionary with no maintenance on the province
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>>174474158
I'm pretty tech down syndromed, I'm historically autistic though
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>>174451746
karate kid, nigga
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>>174470962
ethical consumption doesn't exist
>>
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>native American style exploration event while exploring Papua as a Javan

Good work, Paradox.
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>>174457103
Today ends with my Russian cores liberated, and Bessarabia annexed for Black sea access. Tomorrow i'll turn my armies west.

>>174460816
I'll likely stop with this with Germany, and changeowner Cottbust back to Germany and take east Brandenburg in return. I've got no idea why i've got cores there anyway.

>>174462475
It is a possibility, since i've been infected with the socialist disease unfortunately. Now tough i got a conservative party thankfully
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>>174474569
Wait, wrong screenshot. Still, that one is also hilarious.

>70-year-old queen popping out babies
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>>174474584
how the hell did you get cottbus? I assume you got it for the Sorbs, but how?
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>>174474726
>>174474569
I think this is the screen I meant.
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I de-mobilized but it's stuck in a loop of firing every 30 days. I might have to reload a save here, tbqh.
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>>174474851
>I've got no idea why i've got cores there anyway.
my guess is that he had a core there and when he dismantled germany it was given to him
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>>174474873
>bearded sundanese

ok then
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>>174475376
How did he get a core there?
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>>174475443
no idea.
i'll check the files and see why/how
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imagine being bismarck. spending your entire life convincing france that you can peacefully co-exist, getting an alliance with russia and assuring uk that you do not plan to threaten their overseas territories.

then epic willy comes to the field, starting a battleship race with uk, saying that the english are natural enemies of the german people at an interview, inviting the belgian king to a dinner and then tell him to help you invade france or you will attack him and going for full mobilization at the russian front while your cousin-tsar tries several times to keep the mobilization limited

and now germany is 50% of what it used to be, has a government full of fanatical globalists, has full blown german guilt and still pays reparations to israel and nearly 15% of its' population is muslim.

>>174474141
also that the fuck is up with serbia.
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>>174475349
show event screen. it's not a bug
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>>174475983

look up autism worldwide and check the german rates

you'll get your answer
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>>174446000
>You know what makes grand strategy games even better?
>Amphetamines.
Only if you have ADHD or something. Amphetamines are cool for when you want to physically do things, but they feel gross to be comfy on
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if amphetamines makes your autism simulators more enjoyable see your doctor about your undiagnosed ADHD
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this kills the american
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>>174473963
HPM is a virus you got fucking memed on congrats sorry nobody told you about this
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how could women be this comfy?

if I could realistically find a qt like this I would actually make an effort to leave my room
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How do you take down Abassid in CK2?

Their sheer numbers and quality of their castles makes it seem like an impossible task.
I was able to snag a bit of land from them but only because their armies were split in half during a revolt.

Right now I have 4,000 troops compared to their 20,000. To make matters worse I can't even hire any of my favorite merc bands. My only options are these shitty Turks.
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>>174477176
>Wait for decadence revolt
>Pick the carcass
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>>174477176

corruption

kill them inside out with pussy and money
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>>174477176
uninstall.exe is always a solid option
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>>174477363
haha well memed
great joke
ha ha
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>>174477448
thanks friend ;)
>>
I enjoy the fuck out of these games but they are simply too difficult for my poor brain. I've read the wikis and such but that's simply not enough.
Any guides you guys can recommend?
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>>174478028
just keep playing

if you come across stuff you don't understand look it up or if the ancient wiki doesn't have an answer ask about it here
>>
>almost a year after his game releases, podcat introduces impassable terrain to band-aid the broken ai

kys podnigger
>>
where i can find friends to play /gsg/?
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>>174478379
here
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>>174462821
>greek sicily
>implying sicily isn't de facto greek
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>>174478346
It's pitiful the way he explained how they implemented it too. You could tell he is ashamed of himself and the hoy4 team for their failings.
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Podcat lurks here doesn't he?
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>>174478379
are you a f-female?
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>>174478674
no, brazilian manlet
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>>174478674
No, but I am a girl
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>>174478028
yeah bro just ask it here lmao

And get shitty one sentence answers with no punctuation because people here have 1000+ hours playtime of these shitty games and still have no grasp of basic game mechanics, and no one can bother to formulate a proper sentence or elaborate on anything
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>>174478885
Lies
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>>174478867


how did you know ?
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>>174478674
i have a qt feminine ass
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>>174478913

then go to doxyplaza
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>>174471409
why did they make rivers so fucking big in this game
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>>174479232

for vikangzzz to sail
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Is there a reason the AI can walk directly through my fort here?
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Anyone wanna MP redditu4 I need to poop and then I'm gonna play
90108257824148483
password badmemes
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Hearts of Iron 3 or 4?
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>>174479586
Hearts of Iron 1
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>>174479491
I'm not even fighting with Ryukyu what the fuck paradox
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>>174479547
wait 4 me
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>unconditionally surrender
>20 years later still receive no reply from my enemies
hmmmmm yes
this is calming, nothing to worry about
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>>174479586
This isn't even a question. Three.
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>>174479491

yeah, two province rule

https://youtu.be/x3KqmV_9-bA?t=259
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>This Serbia
Gets the noggin' joggin'
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>>174479751
I finished pooping where you at bud
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>>174432135
Is Alex still alive lads? I'm genuinely worried.
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>>174480159
so long as the Albanians are gassed what's wrong?
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>>174480228
fixing my version
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>>174432135
Does doing something as marshal keep you from fertilizing your wife?
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>The Archduke hasn't died
What the fuck man
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>>174480670
yes, and she is going to cheat on you
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>>174480228
Connection to your game failed.
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>>174480670
yes she is going to do lesbian things while you're gone
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>>174481413
90108259574366209
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>>174481413
>>174481561
Maybe next time Anon
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>>174460249
>you will never have your innards torn from your body by an artillery shell as a fat Hebrew laughs back home and profits from your death at the hands of another European
Feels fairly good desu
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>>174483346
filthyrobot?

some guy who used to play/stream lots of MP civ5
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Legends say that if you speak the name "Arumba" three times in front of a mirror at exactly 14:44pm the ghost of his deceased son will be summoned and curse you in a way that'll make your brain percieve the world as EUIV, you'll be unable to move and talk for the rest of your live and will only see the EUIV game through your eyes and it's soundtrack forever.

A fate worse than death.
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>>174483828
>14:44pm
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>>174483828
I fucking dream about EU4 sometimes

did I do some of these by accidentally or something?
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>>174483828
>Is wearing the ck2 stained glass paradox logo
that's not eu4 tho...
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>December 10, 1914
The Austro-Hungarians have sent an ultimatum to the Serbs demanding they withdraw from Albania. If they refuse it is likely that Austria will intervene in behalf of the Albanians and Russia can be expected to aide their Slavic allies. Europe sits on the brink of war.
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>>174484852
Go to war, do it Europe, you wont. You're scared.
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Wow, Arumba looked like THAT?
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>>174484852
>They accepted
Fuck.
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Hi guys
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>>174485163
>>174484852
HAHA YOU WANT FUN IN YOUR GAME????
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>>174484852
>>174485163
>>174485234
>asks for something
>gets it
>complains
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>>174485079
>>174483828
This is the same man
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>>174485437

time makes a fool of us all
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>>174485163
>>174485234
I think what happened is everything is off by 1 year. An event marked for early 1914 (Apis and the Black Hand) just fired. If nothing happens in three months I'll kick in Frances door myself.

>>174485356
>Implying I wanted it
The perfidious Kraut wants war.
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>>174485552
Being an alcoholic doesn't help either.
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fokken wot
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>>174485567
>If nothing happens in three months I'll kick in Frances door myself.
You should have done this back in 1912 like Moltke wanted.
>>
>arumba is a janitor
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>>174486062
He killed his own son
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>>174486214
rip
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>>174486062
>>174486259
it's a pretty tragic story.
Apparently, his son made fun of him when he couldn't get an achievement in EU4, so Arumba fed him dirt and threw him against the wall, and the kid had a seizure and died. Then he made a vlog where he said that his son threw himself against the wall (seriously, he was not of sound mind)
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>>174486434
killing your own child because you couldn't get Big Blue Blob

jesus christ Arumba
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So I actually won a war vs ming but can this disaster for them ever actually happen? Aren't they just going to declare on me every time the truce drops?
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>>174486874
you (or another horde) need over 300 development for the disaster to start ticking up
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>>174486946
I have 300, but I've read online it doesnt tick if you have a truce with ming, I cant imagine them not immediately redeclaring war every time the truce is down.
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>>174487087
That's why you need to make the first war everlasting victory. Occupy them for as long as possible.
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>>174487087
maybe I'm wrong but I believe if they cancel you being a tributary the truce is only one-way, so the disaster should still happen if you try that
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>>174487301
I'm in a second truce from them trying to war me back into being a tributary. It just ended and they dont seem to be moving troops to try and fuck me again.

Which is good because I spend all my stolen ming money on institutions.
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>>174487498
This could be why, seems like they kind of like me even though I will be the end of their nation.

Also I'm at 2 trust with them. They will marry.
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>>174487087

If you refuse to pay tribute but keep relations up, they won't attack you even after breaking tributary status. If you feel like waiting a few years and just blobbing to central Asia / Europe, get a royal marriage and improve relations with Ming before you start refusing to pay. They'll still get the disaster eventually but won't attack you because of 100+ opinion. Also, Mingplosion can apparently still happen if you take the mandate but you should get your own tributaries first or you'll get fucked by low mandate.
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>>174487649
You didn't blob hard enough desu

You have to face-sit Ming during your first war with them -until- the event fires, then immediately sue for peace. Try to declare war on another tributary (calling them in) right away so you can loot them some more and white peace (shorter truce). Three or four more wars and you should be ready to usurp the Mandate---provided you've been stacking your own tributaries this whole time in-between wars.
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>>174487901
When I did it I got lucky. Ming declared war on Khmer in the South, I was allied with Oirat, so Ming was fighting a war on two fronts against superior Manchu shock troops.
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>>174488226
Just saying bud, by 1560 I had already formed Qing and owned most of China proper. First time playing Manchu in 1.20, to boot (pic related). I understand if you started as Yeren but jesus man step it up.
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My cat had kittens and is doing fine, thank you for your support
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>>174488805
Damn that's cute.
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>>174488679
the problem is I think it's not easy for an inexperienced player to realize just how strong horde units are compared to ming's

if you get them at tech 5 you don't even need the disaster or allies, just pray you have a good general and shitstomp them on the steppes 2 to 1
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>>174488679
That wasn't me, laddo, I'm >>174460243
>>
Every time I try to play manchu in EU4 I conquer all this fucking land but it doesnt matter because its dirt fucking worthless, and I'm poor as fuck, unable to pay for decent armies, and I'm stuck literally paying interest out of my ass because I cant afford to keep attacking or even defend myself at some points.

How the fuck do you optimize money while dealing with aggressive expansion. eventually rebels just swarm me, and Im paying out of my ass to keep corruption under control because of unbalanced research because I'm spending all my admin coring.

Eventually I hit a screeching halt as I have no where else to expand safely and have no money to force an issue, and my horde unity fucks me over constantly.

Even Korean land doesnt seem to earn me any money

Why am I so poor when I play manchu
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>>174488805
>not spaying your cats
You'd better be a fucking breeder otherwise you're a nigger tier owner.
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>>174488969
>only breeders are allowed to breed their cat
??? That's some cuck logic if I've ever heard it. Sorry, you're right, let me just go give some jew 300 bucks for a kitten completely unrelated to my already existing, healthy cat.
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>>174488805
I suggest you to nurture the cat.
PS: Keep an eye on the kittens, the weaker tend to die if you don't take care of 'em.
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>>174489084
I'm not saying you can't breed it, I'm saying you can't just let it loose to be fucked by a diseased mangy fleabag with inheritable diseases.
>>
i like /gsg/-/an/
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>>174489215
>letting your cat outside
Thats the real nigger tier shit.

Declawing your cat, spaying and neutering are all great ways of traumatizing your cat for selfish reasons. Don't let your cat outside into the fucking wild, it's not a wild animal.
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>>174488883
no navy
never pay for fort not at war, i would say never keep them but the starting one for jianzou helps against ming
never pay for armies not at war
don't raze manchu culture land unless you need the points
get and develop buryatia's gold mine
loot like hell at all times during war, definitely take war taxes if you know it'll last more than a year or so
always take as much money from peace deals as possible, especially from ming

you will be poor no matter what, banners being so expensive and so necessary doesn't help either

you're a horde, you need war to keep your country afloat, get used to it
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>>174489084
>wanting to subject your good soft friend to horrible spine-penis when there are literally billions of other good soft friends waiting for new homes
Fucking degeneracy of the highest order.
>>
>>174462110
FUCKING
WHITE
MALES
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>>174489363
>spine-penis
owo whats this

>>174489314
>>>/r/paradoxplaza

>>174489326
>their natural habiat is a 20x10 apartment
now THATS the nigger shit
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>>174489326
>Don't let your cat outside into the fucking wild, it's not a wild animal.
You are a shit tier cat owner.
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>>174489197
>the weaker tend to die if you don't take care of 'em.
just like they should.
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>>174489590
muh muh bennies
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IT'S HAPPENING
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>>174489590
So you're having cats to just let them die?
Are you a hillbilly?
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>>174489746
I believe he was extrapolating the topic of conversation to reference modern day economjc policy in the west regarding the welfare state and the working class's reliance on said apparatus to form a scathing political commentary.
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>>174489510
I hope your cat is killed by a dog or car.

>>174489504
Yes, a domesticated cats natural habitat is an apartment.

If you want to let it out into the wild when you live in an apartment you are fucking retarded, and your cat will end up a bad hombre.
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>>174489746
no, but if they can't survive on their own(or just with their mother) they shouldn't survive at all
most of the weak ones die even if you take care of them anyway
also this >>174489868
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zk6eXvCiuo
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>>174489908
>Yes, a domesticated cats natural habitat is an apartment.

Bwahaha holy fucking shit you are dumb.
>>
I still really want to make a Sino-Japanese Catholic Empire, but the constant late-game defeats are demoralizing and I don't want to do it again right now.
Anyone try claiming the mandate as something more fun? Like maybe a Sikh Nepal?
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>>174489908
>Yes, a domesticated cats natural habitat is an apartment
Lad, NOBODIES natural habitat is an apartment, not even humans. We only live in them because we've evolved beyond basic structures designed to keep heat in, a cat's natural habitat is hunting field mice and birds and then finding itself a nest in the evening before doing the same again tomorrow.
>>
Can the emperor of China convert to Christianity?
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>>174490187
>sikhiums nepaliums chinaiums
do it for the memes lad
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>>174489984
>spoiler
Yeah, I know that, but I've saved a few weak kittens and most (if not all) of them have reached adulthood.
>>174489908
It is dangerous to let your cats wander around if you live in a big city. Luckily, I live in Bumfuck-of-nowhere-ville and I let my cats wander around.
It's not that bad to let your animals go and get some fresh air. The best thing is to keep them controlled, and you can't do that with cats.
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What should we do, boys?

Talk to the British and explain our goals or offer to halt all naval construction and moth ball some vessels to gain their neutrality?
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>>174490485
GERMANY SHALL RISE AGAIN LIKE THE PAST, A GLORIOUS EMPIRE BUILT TO LAST
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>>174490305
Like I said, I haven't been successful, but I was doing a Japan game where I was savescumming to delay the Christianity Isolation event. Allegedly you can convert and keep the Mandate if you are already Emperor (You just can't claim the mandate if you convert before)
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>>174490604
*lasts less than a decade*
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>>174490604
A german.... empire, you say?
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>>174490732
Try 12 years, ace.
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>>174490639
So where did you fuck up?
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This is the main Paradox demographic.
This fucking hurts to read, look at the upboats and downboats as well, they're unironically advocating for KANGZ, has progressivism gone too far?
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>>174491193
The future is now, pigskin.
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>>174491193
How the fuck would west africans make books when most didn't even know the concept of written language?
>>
>>174491193
Just ask him to list some of the writings then produce a list of western literature
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>>174491250
heh wrong general
>>
>tfw the TYPUS Theatrum patch hasn't been updated yet
>but the author of the mod has updated his other mods
REEEEE
>>
>>174491493
He'd jsut say the Quran, which is even more annoying for several reasons.
1. These retards are supposed to be le super sedular atheist *tips* so by their own logic the Quran isn't enlightening.
2. The Quran is just about the last book to be cited when disdussing influences for the enlightenment.
3. The Quran is in Arabic, a language very view West Africans could read.
4. The Quran didn't come from West Africa, so it still doesn't make sense even overlooking the other points.
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>>174490887
I had Mexico, Alaska, most of Indonesia, Manchuria, the Siberian coast (Muscovy got cucked hard so I was going to take all of it when nothing else was colonizeable), and Korea.
I was allied with France, who kept declaring wars shortly before the truces with their previous war target expired. Ming kept joining these wars as an enemy. I was successful in fighting Ming in these early World Wars, but after the second time Ming joined a war before our truce expired, and thus preventing me from declaring on them for the Mandate (which I felt I was ready to do for several decades), I decided to declare on them as soon as the truce expired, after savescumming to figure out they would have joined the war against me if I didn't resetting the truce again.
I had like 7k, and burnt through all of it spamming mercenaries to try and come back at them.
I don't know how I was so successful against them in the wars a decade earlier and failed when the time came to actually beat them up.
I took out several hundred thousand in Korea, but eventually I got swarmed before my 150k manpower could replenish. I had 100k men, 50k mercs, a slight mil tech advantage, and 7.5k gold. And I still lost.
I was heartbroken, I spent several hours declaring them December 11th in 1444 as Ashikaga trying to cuck them early. Even with 8-10 war exhaustion, no ability to gain new tributaries, a war that lasted EIGHTY years, and constant naval blockade, and me spending thousands of gold on rebels, they wouldn't falter. Nor would anyone else try to take advantage of the clearly situation they were stuck in. I stopped playing for a while after that.
My experience has taught me a couple things. Develop those gold mines (They spawn in Owami(sp?) and Echigo) and pray that Ming doesn't just rape everyone around them. It is a lot harder when they don't struggle at all against their neighbors.
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protestant or reformed?

people tell me reformed is better but protestant has way more variety in it's bonuses
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>>174491193
>islamic world
>Mali
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>>174491921
Reformed for merchant republics, otherwise protestant.
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>>174491804
did u try gittin gud
Also, you declared war in Ming as a Daimyo in 1444? No wonder you kept gettin rekt. If I were you I'd have:
Allied Kham, Khmer, forcing them into two/three front war
Vassalize Manchu and feed them provinces until they had 300 dev to get the disaster to fire
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>>174492104
>did u try gittin gud
I did. I really, really did.
>Also, you declared war in Ming as a Daimyo in 1444? No wonder you kept gettin rekt. If I were you I'd have:
Different play throughs. 1444 war was after the 300 year development just left me facing a stronger Ming.
>Allied Kham, Khmer, forcing them into two/three front war
No one wants to ally Japan, especially not early on. In the big war I had France but I couldn't get them to join due to the other war, and I had to declare on Ming before it ended because they were going to join and reset the truce again.
>Vassalize Manchu and feed them provinces until they had 300 dev to get the disaster to fire
Vassalizing Manchu doesn't work and Japanese government prevents releasing vassals. They can't be a subject nation.
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>>174491193
jesus christ this makes me so fucking mad it's honestly like they want a shitty game

I'm REALLY mad mostly because eu4 has great potential with the enlightenment developing in some other place than europe. the game could do a better job of tracking wealth paradigms and the ebb and flow of civilizations and cultures and technology to see where new social and philosophical innovations would actually develop. not just fucking random clusterfuck it is now.

and this fucking guy holy shit it's like he's not even thinking about what he's saying
>at the start of the game western europe's collection would have been dwarfed ten times by islamic civ (and therefore the enlightenment developing there is logical)
It's true. the islamic world was just ending its "golden age". that was indeed real. BUT THEN ACCORDING TO YOU, WHY DID THE ENLIGHTENMENT OCCUR IN EUROPE THEN?
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Playing Japan in Vicky2 HPM and ran into a weird problem:
I fabricated the Aquire Substate Region as Japan against China. After the CB completed I had the Declare War button turn clickable, but when i clicked it nothing was there. Now the button isn't even clickable, like I didn't even fabricate the claim (it says I have it on their CB page). Is this a bug or am I missing something embarrassingly obvious?
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>>174492281
>Japanese government prevents releasing vassals. They can't be a subject nation.
How? Based Paradox..
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>>174492281
Also, I have SCs from the 80 or so years of war in which I killed over 500k Chinese and forced them under 50 mandate for quite a while and they just sat and took it, without anyone taking advantage of the situation. Even with them unable to make new tribuatries, I kept getting unlucky and their tributaries just killed all their non-tributary neighbors.
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>>174492338
I don't know whether he's a SJW who thinks real life is like his tumblr or if he's a paradrone who will defend everything Paradox do no matter what, or both.
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>>174492504
>their tributaries just killed all their non-tributary neighbors.
Huh? The tributaries aren't allied like vassals.
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>>174492368
What is the year?
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>>174492371
Anyway, I don't want to cry over my failed Japanese games any more. I'll get back to it eventually. If there is one thing I am good at, its stubbornly smashing my head into a brick wall until it breaks.

Any suggestions for my Sikh Nepal into China game? I don't really play in India ever. I was thinking of going for the gold province in Mong Yang, since that was such a boon for my in my Japan game.
>>174492642
They didn't need to be allied. They independently killed off the non-tributaries I was relying on to not get raped. Korea blobbed Manchuria, Lan Xang in IndoChina, etc.
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What do you think, /gsg/?
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>>174492651
February 15, 1869. CB expires November 20th, 1869.
Sorry for triggering Euros with MM/DD/YYYY
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>>174492651
2017.

>>174492768
>Any suggestions for my Sikh Nepal into China game?
Take offensive ideas. Generals are invaluable.

>>174492815
Ignore if you're going for an ebin willy waggle game, evacuate if not.
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>>174492815
who cares? AI is retarded and probably won't figure out how to land divisions, so just eat Belgium and move on to France while Britain "blockades" you. If you beat France and Russia, make sure to invade Britain and make life living hell for those filthy anglos
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>>174492901
I think HPM blocked state conquering from china before 1880 to prevent the AI from blobbing too much into it, i think you can still get land with the colonial conquest CB and punitive expedition
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>The AI doesn't have locked units
>Every single one of my units is locked

Great mod, a real 10/10
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where the fuck is alex
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>>174493026
well RIP 9 infamy, thank you very much my man
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>>174493131
>play meme empire
>get meme'd on
I hope you get dismantled.
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>>174493131
>locked units
Solely play HoI3, what is this jewery?
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>>174493159
just event 18540 3 times
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>>174450140
>tfw br*zilian too
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>>174493278
>cheating
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>>174493528
>not using whatever means possible to enhance the HPM experience
hello rob
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>>174493776
>using cheats possible to ruin the HPM experience
hello gruica
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Which Hearts of Iron game can I play and enjoy playing Yugoslavia the most?
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>>174493929
DH with NWO.
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Coming back to EU4 after a while, so what's the consensus about the later Expansions after El Dorado?
Judging by Steam reviews the only one I should get is Rights Of Man and ditch the other five.
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>>174493929
EvW
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>>174494102
>enjoying the sad and slow fall of the USSR during the cold war
why
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>>174494147
just pirate them all. There is literally no reason to purchase paradox DLC.
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So far so good
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>>174494220
>unironically being communist
Is >>174491193 you?
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>>174494208
>ywn nuke the US as the USSR during the Cuban missile crisis and set up a puppet state at the US and later invade europe because you are undisputed
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>>174494226
What about Steam DRM?
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>>174494226
Also that wasn't my question at all, I was asking which ones are good, that is, which ones will make the game better instead of worse.
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>>174494279
>eastern front is 5 provinces wide
What a fucking shit game. Play HoI3 instead.
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>>174494326
>unironically being gommunist
>imblying i don't want the cold war to continue so we can have dank crises, more spess competition and even bigger nuclear bombs
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>>174494326
not him, but I do think the USSR collapsing is sad in a way. I'm glad that communism is for the most part dead, but the collapse marked the end of an era, just like WW1 destroyed various European Empires. We're living in a weird epoch right now, no idea what the next era is going to be like.
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>>174494509
>We're living in a weird epoch right now, no idea what the next era is going to be like.
We're living in the neo-con globalist neo-imperialist phase. In the last 20 years alone Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and now Syria have been invaded and toppled by (((NATO))).
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>>174494605
Syria still hasn't been toppled by (((NATO))) though I do think North Korea is next to be (((freed)))
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What now? That gold province is still like provinces out, 3 if I snake it.
Can I safely blob without worrying about AE since I am a tributary? It never seemed to be an issue when I was Japan.
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>tfw too dumb to make a mod for vic2 where the american revolution never happened
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>>174494660
Not yet. What do you think those tomahawk missles were about? They weren't a ramadan present.

If America tries to fuck with the Norks millions of South Koreans will die. I get memed on for saying this but even though their military is outdated it's still large enough to be a serious threat.

I mean, BESt case scenario is South Koreans somehow win in a week or so, but in that time Seoul will be a crator. And I'm not talking from nukes either, the sheer amount of artillery on the DMZ would level Seoul, I'm pretty sure the onky reason China are moving towards allowing war in the peninsula is so that Shaghai is the de facto capital of trade in the East. Hell, they might even give Norks medium range missles to take Tokyo out.
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>>174494208
don't remind me :(
i was really looking forward to playing yugo
i dld some version and i cant join the UN for some reason, the decision doesnt let me
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>>174494819
sure ming would probably protect you, but blobbing will just be harder to do if everyone's in a coalition

I've heard if you feed a vassal land as a tributary Ming gets all the AE for some reason, but I haven't tested myself
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>>174495154
I mean I never had coalitions form at all while a tributary, though I haven't paid enough attention to it to know if that was the cause.
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>>174495105
Same, it appears to let you, you go to click it and it dissapears.
good metaphor for EvW in general tbvqh me laddy mate
Paradox surely are the most perfidious Jews in existence for cancelling it. Though it's just a matter of time before they come out with a cash in cold war DLC for Goy4.

Why do you like Yugo so much? Quick rundown?
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>>174495309
well if your only other tributary experience was as japan, then it's because there's nothing but shinto and confucian near you so there's hardly enough tags to even form one
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/gsg/ I've played and loved EU4, Stellaris, and HOI2/KR, and I just got CK2. However, the whole nobility system is completely unlike any other Paradox mechanic I've encountered. Could anyone rec a guide or some shit to get me started?
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>>174495092
Yeah, USSR also had some pretty shitty fucking weapons but memed the fuck out of Germany by sheer numbers, norks would cuck the south koreans and the US wouldn't be doing jack shit
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>>174495462
family is originally from former yu and i am a nostalgia fag so i will always just pick them trying to make it the perfect nation
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How do I increase devastation in a province in EUIV?
I've parked 20.000 men in each province in Tunis but it only increases by 0.2% a turn. I'm supposed to get to a 100% in each province to get my delicious achievement.
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>>174495462
not him, but Yugoslavia was a doomed state from the beginning. Yugoslavia was an illiterate shithole pretty much held together by Tito alone, yet still managed to tell Stalin to fuck off and went it's own way. there's also something romantic about dead states like Rhodesia and Yugoslavia.
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>>174495789
Long shot but incase you're the same guy I talled with months ago, I finally found a Gaddafi Wojak.

>>174495824
Commie on Commie violence is so sad. Hilarious, but sad.

>>174495658
I mean, realistically, how do you beat WW2 weaponary? America can have their drones and shit but at the end of the day all it takes is a decent anti-aircraft vehicle and it's blown out of the sky.
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>>174496046
>I mean, realistically, how do you beat WW2 weaponary? America can have their drones and shit but at the end of the day all it takes is a decent anti-aircraft vehicle and it's blown out of the sky.
Traditional arguement is that the Norks would get totally memed on for a plethora of reasons, but they have a fuckload of artillery at the DMZ. In range of Seol.
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>>174496046
desu the only way to cuck the norks would be pure uncut conventional warfare, but the meme is that if the US starts going deep into nork territory, Russia is gonna shove it's cock into NATO as much as it can
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>>174495657
pls respond
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we wuz germans n shiet
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How long has this been a thing? It isn't quite as presigious sounding as the Ghorka Dynasty of China, but it seems pretty easy to just grab those cores to cheese all of India.
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>>174496046
YES ITS ME
I REMEMBER YOU
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>>174496120
Last I checked they had like 1000 artillery pieces in range of seoul, Not exactly enough to wipe out seoul immediately, I guarentee that if war were declared, their artillery would be the first thing our air strikes dealt with.
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>>174496130
Yeah, but beating 6 million Norks with AKs and tanks isn't just a push over. The media play up that NK are a bunch of weak faggots with old tedh but a kalashnikov will kill you just the same as an m-16.

>>174496120
I juat don't buy into this American super soldier shit. Let's not forget they lost to a bunch of rice farmers in Vietnam, imagine that but × a million.
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>>174496229
I'm not the guy saying it would be a crater, but it would be pretty bad. Depends on who struck first, I guess. Pre-emptive strikes on their DMZ forces would probably lead to 7-days-war tier of rape.
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>>174496290
>I juat don't buy into this American super soldier shit. Let's not forget they lost to a bunch of rice farmers in Vietnam, imagine that but × a million.
>muh Vietnam
Why does no one remember Korea?
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>>174496290
>tfw Kim Jong-Un out-played us all with 69D chess
fuck me familia
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Why is every single thing to do with alternate history completely stupid and unrealistic?
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>>174496217
Yay! I recognised your Tito may-may, I finally found that Gaddafi Wojak on brit/pol/ and immediately thought "Man, I wish I could show this to that one guy on /gsg/", because I asked you if you had a Gaddafi Wojak and you said you hadn't been able to find one.
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>>174496442
Because thats the fucking point.
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>>174496405
That was when the Koreas were equal, now the DPRK army is 1 million active with 6 million reserve and the RoK army is 625,000 active with 3 millikn reserve.
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>>174496145
>>174496145
>>174496145
>>174495657
>>174495657
>>174495657
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>>174496626
Forgot pic.
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>>174496197
bahrat (hindus) and hindustan (muslims) have always been a thing

if you really want to cheese india go for mughals
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>>174496449
we were destined to meet again anon and probably will again if you see something yugo related posted in this thread, its likely me
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>>174496559
is it though laddo?
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>>174496753
>implying
Half our memers are ex Yugo shitters, the other half are Spics. If you see something Brit related it's probably me though.
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>>174496145
>>174495657
Are you dumb? Nobility is extremly easy to remember.
Baron->Count->Duke->King->Emperor. You can't have vassals that are of the same rank or higher. You rank is what your highest title is. A baron rules over a single holding that isn't the capital in a country, a count holds the capital holding in a county, a duke holds a duchy title which is a collection of counties, a king holds a kingdom title which is a collection of duchies, and an emperor holds an Empire title which is a collection of Kingdoms.
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>>174496836
>spics
i'm br*zilian you nig
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>>174497050
everything non ANGLO is inferior
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>>174496748
I'm not cheesing India, I'm going to go Nepal -> Sikh China.
Though Mughals and Timurids both have great names and unit aesthetics to claim China as.
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>>174497096
That gave me another idea, anyone know if Zoroastrians can claim the mandate of heaven? I would imagine not due to requiring Pagan/Eastern religion group, but you never know.
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>>174497090
t. eternal anglo
I do like you though buddy, keep coming here pls
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>>174497136
you need pagan or eastern religion, but you could always flip to zoro afterward
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>>174497157
b-but you dont even know me
if ur that one qt whitish girl who once posted here then i like you too ;)
if not kill yourself
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>>174497192
>>174497136
>>174497096
Is Sikh even Eastern? I thought Eastern meant Shinto, Confucian, tengri, Buddhist, etcetera, not Hindu and Muslim.
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>>174496846
Yeah, but the mechancs of overlords and vassals and shit is obtuse.
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>>174497341
Eastern group is confucian, shinto, and the buddhist variants

Hindu and Sikh are Dharmic

Tengri is Pagan, which is probably the only reason Pagan is allowed to claim mandate
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>>174497341
I wasn't sure, but I thought the fact that I can view this menu meant I could.
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>be kingdom of God on earth
>good french catholics help me seize philliphines from the heretical spanish pretenders
>10 years later
>pretenders ally the eternal anglo
>they declare war on me to retake it, i have no allies
>kill hundreds of thousands of anglos
>burn madrid to the ground
>liberate malta
i haven't felt better in a long time
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>>174497562
pretty sure just being able to see china lets you see the menu, like the HRE
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>>174497562
Do you have the CB?
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>>174497625
I can't check without losing tributary status, and I won't be ready to do that for at least another century.
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>>174497567
forgot pic
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>>174497625
>>174497654
You have to border them and be eligible religion to get the CB
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>>174497268
killing myself rn
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>>174497702
I know. I would have to start a custom game just to check, because I'm on ironman.
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>>174497654
Savescum to try?
>inb4 ironmemer
>>174497703
could just have the op
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>>174497757
well take my word for it you'll have to flip to buddhist or confucian to be able to claim the mandate

not like you would even want to before crushing ming anyway, so you'll have plenty of confucian land to work with
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Why did I even accept tributary status if they won't fucking help me?
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>>174497979
So you can attack other tributaries without Ming raping you.
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Tips for invading Russia in V2? Other than the obvious don't invade it in the first place
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>>174497979
they would only get called if you were attacked by an outside threat, not other tributaries
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>>174498059
Huge army, hyuge.
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>>174496229
That's not possible. It takes seconds to fire an artillery barrage, if each of them fired even ONE shell at Greater Seoul, which has 50% of South Korea's population, that's devastation beyond the means the USA has the ability to answer for.
And US air strikes "dealing with" things have had a mixed history, at best. Let's also remember that THAAD does absolutely nothing against cruise missles, rockets, or just normal shells, since it's designed to stop things on reentry.
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>>174498153
>which has 50% of South Korea's population
Jesus, I knew it was a big city 4u but I had no idea it was that huge. 25 million people, all having artillery rained nown upon them. It would be catastrophic.

And there is rumours that Norks have a tunnel under Seoul, so they could even have a nuke in that in the event they were attacked.
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>declare holy war
>about to siege last holding
>oh hey i converted to your religion pls go now
>war cancelled
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>>174467827
edited the defines.lua
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DUDE
SCHLIEFFEN PLAN
LMAO

They need to hurry up and port this to the E3 map already.
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This war has been going on for more than 10 years with no end in sight. What do I do?
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>>174498793
>this didn't happen IRL
I hurt myself today
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>>174498475
Now you realize why South Korea really doesn't like it when the US pushes at North Korea.
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Hmmm laddos, what is more plausible for a whig dominated British parliament -
American colonies being given self-rule under a unified parliament
Self-rule under several different assemblies (New England, Middle colonies, the South)
Each colony given an MP in British parliament
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Rate my ideas for my custom Imperial Japan

I'll also be trying to make some other custom nations, mainly the Abbasids in Iraq, Umayyads in Syria or Andalucia, Fatimids in Tunis or Egypt, and maybe just "The Caliphate" in Medina
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>>174499051
lol cry more krautboo
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>>174500045
you must really love ww2
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>>174500292
n-no, that one was fucked.
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Can I as Portugal diplo vassalize Navarra or is that to slow to get it before my three big neighbors do?
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create nu fred
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how do i maintain the balance of power when countries autistically declare war on each other?
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>>174500532
please don't post in this general ever again
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>>174500773
CREATE NU FRED OR I WILL POST PEPE
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>>174500914
Pratically pointing a gun to our heads
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wan nu fred pees
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FRENCH PEPE ASKS "WHERE IS LE NEW FRED?"
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>>174501746
white and based
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>>174502034
needs to brush her tongue
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so how exactly do i abuse pikes?
do i just convert to italian/scottish/i don't remember and spam pike retinues?
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>>174502102
>her
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>>174502270
yes
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I'd like to create a minor alt-hist mod for V2 (alternative Vienna congress). Should I rather use HPM as a base and delete historical events not suitable for my mod, or not use it and port useful ones into the mod?
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>>174502394
thank you
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>>174502408
use HPM as a base, vanilla map is dumb and a lot of hpm mechanics like the berlin conference would probably still make sense
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>>174502440
no problem
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>tfw you want to create grossconfederatiums but slave pops are shit
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Thinking of playing a comfy Ternate game in EU4.

What is Ternate's rightful clay; what should I aim for? I was thinking of setting my western boundary in Indonesia at the Wallace Line, then taking all of Indonesia/Papua east of it as well as Taiwan, the Philippines, Australia and maybe some other colonies around the world.
>>
what's the best mod for EU4 if I want to make it harder and more interesting that isn't MEIOU
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>>174502408
use PDM and piss off all the edgelords here
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>>174503204
>PDM
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>174503204
not sure about harder, but i enjoy playing beyond typus, much better than vanilla at least
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>>174503305
meant for >>174503093
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I fucking hate how important it is to do military ideas in EUIV.
>I was Tuscany and maxed out defensive ideas
>have +5% discipline
>Naples attacked me again
>I have 70.000 troops
>they have 32.000
>I attack when they're besieging me
>I lose hard
>I wait and attack again
>I lose hard
>I regroup and attack again
>I lose hard
>Decide to max out over my force limit, now 85.000
>I attack again
>I lose hard
>they follow my stack and deletes it
In every fight they had one or two minus because I attacked on my home turf. Fuck I'm mad, the whole campaign is down the pipes now.
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What do people here's partners think of their grand strategy habit?

you do have a partner, right?
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>90 trust
>refuses call to arms
Fuck you so much France.
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what counts as an inland sea for eu4? for example is the English Channel one or should I just pump out heavy ships
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>>174503862
She pretends to be interested and asks me how I'm doing.
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>>174503952
>be me, Poland
>have 100 trust and 100 favor with France
>have similarly high with Austria
>get attacked by the Ottomans
>they both bail despite they have no wars
I hate the AI, it's the fucking worst
>>174503963
if you hover over it, it will tell you. No the channel is no inland sea
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>>174503952
favour system is retarded
i really wish eu4 had a gamerule thing like ck2, so you can use the rest of the DLC without being forced to use such shitty mechanics
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>>174503963
basically the mediterranean and some asian shitholes nobody cares about
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Can someone make a new thread, please? Thank you.
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>>174503862

this
>>174503979
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>>1745038
nigger why were you attacking with defensive ideas
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>>174502034
Sauce pls?
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New Thread
>>174504239
>>174504239
>>174504239
>>174504239
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>>174504278
Luna Kitsuen
Should be a first page result in SpankBang
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>>174504097
>favour system is retarded
No it isn't, it's one of the few new good things
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>>174503952
Trust doesn't mean being dumb
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>>174503862
>partner
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>>174502408
Please include a buffed Hanover, after so many loyal wars fought Britain should have given its german dominion more love
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>>174504362
>good things
>rivals refuse call to arms against other rivals because 'not enough favours' :DDD
there was literally nothing wrong with the former system, no reason to change it
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>>174496229
>1000 artillery pieces in range of seoul, Not exactly enough to wipe out seoul immediately
Norks have been producing chemical weapons for half a century and unlike nukes they are very easy to deliver. They don't need to wipe out seoul immediately when they can turn it into the biggest gas chamber on earth.
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>>174485552
Honestly he doesn't look that bad as a bald guy
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