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>>174403293
stunt had it coming. he went full reddit.

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>Not enjoying anime

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Why is the Armageddon Navy the best ship in New Eden?

>Navy

kys

t. apoc

>>174404738
the caldari shields

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I wish I had an sp farm

Your rokh is too slow anon get in a machariel.

How is the Machariel even reasonable as as a BS? Why is it allowed to be as it is? Shit's fucked.

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>Want to do carrier ratting
>Don't want to wait 1 year for carrier skills

>>174408493
>using expensive military material designed for large-scale battles as a source of personal income
But as long as you're not ratting in a titan, I'm going to ignore this blatant misuse of a capital.

>>174409053
Its not even expensive.

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No excuse not to have a carrier if you're a nullbabby.

>>174409843
Aren't the densest concentrations of supers actually in lowsec? You know, that place where bubbles don't work?

Don't be calling anyone a babby

>174352173
>11m in vni
>30m in carrier
I get 18-22 in vni (depending of which variation of site i get), how can carrier give only 30m

fuck
>>174352173

Considering getting back into this game

I've only ever been a PVE babby who mined

I have an Orca (I think? The one that gives fleet boosts for mining) one one account, maxed out Hulk on another, and high mining on two more

I don't really want to PVE mine this time, but I might a bit to get the funds to plex.


I dunno my question. I guess what I should do. I want to get into combat (preferably some kind of piracy) so I'll have to transition skills and in the meantime I can make some credits mining or something. Does that sound like a plan?

What kind of skills/ship would you guys aim for if you wanted to be a solo larping pirate faggot? I know I have points in missiles, caldari ships and shields

I'm also kinda interested in the factional warfare aspect but won't that just make life hell for me in highsec?

>>174411718
i get 20-23 in my ishtar and i get 60-75 in my carrier. that guy probably has downsyndrome

>>174411963
>mining without at least 1 rorqual
No money for u

>I want to be an ebin pirate
Solo doesn't work well. You'd be aiming for blowing shit up in lowsec, but lowsec is shit and the only people who live there are bored cyno faggots waiting for someone to be dumb enough to undock and do things in lowsec.

FW is also shit, but people do it anyway so you'll fit right in if you're retarded enough.

Also, if your sec status goes down, you use an alt to do highsec things and move through highsec in an interceptor.

>>174412472
Oh it's the rorqual I have. Whatever is the bigger better mining support ship. It's been a while.

>>174411963
Rorq is the true\only mining ship now and it's a capital that uses drones.

>>174412665
Yeah, but you don't get to sit in a POS anymore.
You have to actually be in the ore belt, mining the asteroids with these hilariously expensive rorqual-only drones.

How is it unironically fly RNI nowadays? Or golem? Just remember RNI been huge meme ship but don't think i saw any in last years.

Speaking of memes, what is a good ship to solo drone 10? or maybe duo.

>>174413165
Please put your words into sentences.

>>174413338
Soory...bad england.

>>174413165
rattlesnake

HOLY FUCK BALLS I HATE MOUNTAINS

>cnr

>tfi

>>174391226
>tfw you're literally too retarded to play with lego's

>>174412724
Do the drones mine more than a barge?

>>174413701
Yea i was thinking about rattlesnake, but kinda not sure how to fit and how to fight...

>fc asks for tfi
>i bring tfi

>>174417251
Each of rorqs drones mines like a barge.

>>174417374
So what you're saying is that I should train up 12 rorqual alts?

>>174417419
Yes. Except you know...it's a capital ship, it requires a lot of time more and isk to fly it than a barge.

>>174417469
Not that much more. A couple extra months maybe, you get to cut down a shit ton of training from mining crystal skills. Regardless thats a huge fucking payoff if you're comparing initial investment verses potential payoff.

>>174417574
>Not that much
>A couple extra months

>>174417609
>plexing one account after your done training
>plexing five accounts after your done training
>running one client after your done training
>running five clients after your done training

pretty much the only major downside is putting like 50 bil into a belt every time you mine.

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>>174417719
Put them in different belts then.

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>>174417896
She looks like a hoe.

>get into jita
>get into clone bay station
>make a jump clone
>jump 900 kilometers into nulls
>realise i didn't install jump clone but just made station my home
Fuck.

>>174418968
>not knowing lil debbie

>900 kilometers

custom camera tracking point when

>>174419313
>install jump clone in null npc station
>self-destruct to Jita
>jump clone back

Now you have a jump clone in Jita. You're welcome.

oneiros

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This game is dead

>>174424927
If only you were dead.

I wish i was fucking dead. Decided to stop eating sugar and only eat once a day and i seem to be gaining weight instead of losing it.

>>174425449
You don't just quit shit over night, lower the sugar week by week until you are completely off.

>>174425449
I don't think you're meant to only eat one meal a day. Something about less regular meals causing your body to store fat.

>>174425449
1. visit /fit/
2. don't starve yourself
3. your body follows the rules of thermodynamics so train those skills to V

>>174425449
>>174427508
Follow this^
Also wear ankle weights while you run to the store in your favorite cosplay, I promise the excersize and sweat burns too much fat to imagine.

Post lewd Kestrols

>>174425449
You're eating too much during your one meal or your consuming too many calories from liquids.

>>174426712
>>174426819
The body can't create weight from nothing, it can't beat physics, if you lower your consumption you lower your weight. It doesn't matter if you eat 20 meals a day or 1, your body may enter "starvation mode" and reallocate the calories its taking in to store fat but that doesn't mean you gain weight it means your bodyfat percentage increases. That change comes from altering your dietary consumption in a way that makes your body think its a non-standard routine you could eat one meal a day and if it's your normal routine your body won't go into starvation mode, it will adapt to whatever.

You're making it more complicated than it really is, lower your portions, move more, don't drink/eat shit that is literally just for taste eg soda and chips and shit.

>>174427805
>Also wear ankle weights while you run to the store
>going from non-active fat chair warrior to rocky running montage

That sounds like a good way to get injured desu.

>>174428627
I mean obviously he's gonna stretch while he puts on his marduko magooko cosplay dummy. How do you think he's gonna zip up the back? Not like he has friends to do it for him so he's gotta stretch.

>>174426712
>>174426819
>>174427508
>>174427805
>>174428424
I used to overeat but i don't anymore, i always feel hungry...even an hour or two after i ate. I don't drink sodas or anything, i only drink water and tea 2 times a day (with sugar substitue though).

I was unironically thinking about ankle\hands\body\penis weights to wear all the time for years after i saw it in some anime (literalyl only saw 2 minutes of it and scene where characters wore those things was the only one i saw) but i thought those don't exist in real life.

Hot sure about /fit/, it's not like it will say anyhting i don't know: "go to gym goy" and i doubt i will ever do that.

I don't cook food myself and i don't even know what i should eat, my mom just usually cooks me some vegetables, salads and i don't even remember what else, not chicken nuggets under mayonaisse is what i mean. Yea im 23 so here's that.

>>174429229
I don't mean stretching, I mean not having the muscle structure built to support the activities yet. Pretty much any quick fix is a recipe for injuring yourself, your body will be a lot stronger if you give it time to adapt to a new lifestyle and stick with it.

>>174429290
>anime
maybe suicide is the answer

>>174429290
The sticky of /fit/ has some pretty good shit for cutting even if you're not looking into becoming ripped, actual healthy diet plans and shit
Always take a look before dismissing an idea

Oruze pls go

>>174429290
>overheat
Yo uh I don't think he means that, just in<out and that basic shit

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>Oruze

>>174429290
/fit/ covers all fitness its not just "lol lift weights" there's dietary advice and shit too. Though you're probably right about already knowing what you need to do. Most people know what they need to do it just isn't easy. I don't know what sort of weight gain we're talking about here but if what your saying is "I don't eat anything unhealthy and all I drink is water/tea and my portions are super small and I still gain weight!" then I just know you're a fucking liar. People don't have special bodies that let them ignore the laws of nature.

The only way to have a strong healthy body is to eat with the intent of having a strong healthy body and to have a lifestyle that supports a strong healthy body. That means exercising, going outside, doing yardwork, walking/standing/moving your body, not pushing yourself too hard and injuring yourself, correcting your natural imbalances/posture, having a proper sleep schedule.

/fit/ only talk about how to become a trap

>>174430020
well i sleep like shit, maybe 6 maybe 4 hours a day, don't move except to and from work but i do eat barelly anything. I guess i just stay fat untill i finally kill myself, hehe.

I'm new to the game and have been training gallente ship skills. I was going to aim for using a Megathron for level 4 missions which I understand are good income and sound kinda fun. But should I be using a different type of ship? What kind of ideal fittings exist for that stuff? Is the kronos far better than the Megathron?

>>174431727

You'd do the L4's a lot better if you use a Dominix with some good drone skills.

Did... did EvE go F2P?

How are the player numbers/activity in EvE nowadays? Haven't played in a couple of years.

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>>174432292
They are pretty alright.

You won't have problems with finding people to play with/people to kill/people to scam

Don't believe the lies

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>go to uniwiki to check ships
>check what it says about the daredevil.

>The Daredevil is a Serpentis faction frigate. It is a potent ship, with two turrets acting as six due to its special ability and its bonus to webs allowing it to stop most ships in their tracks. Daredevils can be quite deadly, doing a large amount of damage for a frigate sized hull, and being able to slow ships to 10% velocity with one web makes deploying that damage even easier. Although expensive, it is easy to skill into and has enough firepower to blast through all the L1 and L2 missions, including the SoE epic arc and the Dagan mission at the end. You can shield tank it for more DPS at the expense of some EHP and the tacking abilities, but the extra DPS is probably a waste for missioning.

Pretty dank info e-uni senpai

>>174432292
not really f2p, more like a permanent trial

>>174433341
>extra DPS is probably a waste for missioning.
What.

>>174431727
Here, if you're in it to make Isk you should probably just go for a Machariel.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub

>>174432096
No don't use a Dominic because the fucking rats will never stop shooting your drones

>>174433469
fuck off retard

>>174433440
Level 1-2's silly. I just like how they take a fucking terrifying frigate and only talk about running shit missions with it.

>>174433586
They talked about pvp you knob

>>174433540
Literally why? Is that info out of date or something?

>>174425449
I used to be chubby but got a stomach ulcer a while back. I was advised to take it easy on my stomach by eating 6-7 meals every day (splitting each meal into a few smaller bits) and ive lost a ton of weight since. Now im mr. Skeletal.
You just need the discipline to not eat much during one meal, eat just enough to not feel hungry anymore.
Gym wont help you lose a lot of weight, it just converts some of it to muscle, running like a madman for half an hour is barely enough for you to burn one burger-worth of calories. So eat right to lose weight, train right to tighten those buns.

>>174434854
>not jumping 2 cents at a time to counter people who outbid you in the time it takes you to change your order.

>>174434474
No. They probably just hate the fact that you can make 200m/hour in high sec if you follow that guide.

Some guy wants to sell me skill injectors for 6USD a pop.
Am I being scammed?

>you are only allowed to do L4s with my autistic jew scheme. stop playing the game how you want

>>174435548
It's CCP employee

>>174435548
report him

>>174435548
Is his name CCP Peligro?

>>174435548
what's the usual price.

get dunked you fucking nerds

>>174435686
Do i get rewarded for reporting those ollegal sellers?
>>174435579
>>174435718
I'm not sure if you are really saying that ccp does this to fish for unfair players, he says he has a russian friend who farms them to him for an even lower price and he just takes a cut of the profit and resells them to other people as a middleman.
He has like 140 safely stored in amarr
>>174435762
A skill extractor is like 6$, an injector is i imagine, quite a bit more in real cash.

oneiros

Muninn

>afk cloaky camping still exists
>this is considered okay by players who have been playing for 7-8 years
>forcing players to play with mechanics from almost a decade ago
and people wonder why eve never holds onto players over the long term

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Can you enjoy EVE when you dont enjoy other MMOs?

>>174438772
Yes

>>174438526
Cry about it shitter

It's me and 5 of my alts doing blops all over your shit. It's my goal to make you think I'm actually afk

>>174438772
You also can't enjoy other mmos after you start playing EVE

>>174441483
>It's me and 5 of my alts doing blops all over your shit. It's my goal to make you think I'm actually afk
he thinks playing the game in a manner that makes it unenjoyable for other players and actively pushes them away from the game is okay
he wonders why there's less and less content each month

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner vs the 1MN Afterburner II

Why would anyone use the Afterburner II?

>le players leaving meme

How do we fix nullsec?

leave the game be. There was enough of "fixes"

>>174442043
I'd start with removing you from it.

>>174442212
Jokes on you I don't live there

Primae nerf when?

Player made stargates when?

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>tfw you're just playing skill queue online while you're waiting for NCPLHK oldfags to quit EVE

>>174441902

check out this sodium overdose

>still feeding trolls in current year

>>174441902
>he thinks playing the game in a manner that makes it unenjoyable for other players and actively pushes them away from the game is okay
It is OK. That's literally the entire point of eve

Me wrecking your shit is amazing

>>174442043
fix jump drives and you fix all space except wormholes

>>174441936
The t2 gets more speed and its pretty significant

Unlike t2 mwd the t2 after burner is actually fucking worth it

>>174442043
give us an upgrade that prevents wormholes from spawning in our sov

>>174446484
There's nothing wrong with jump drives

Wanna fix anything? Make it so I can log in more than one character at a time on a single account. This will remove the garbage that you need more than 1 account to own capitals at all>>174446691

>>174446691
Stay mad carebear

>>174446729
I imagine you'd have a hard time multiboxing with capitals if they required skill to use, rather than muh f1 muh big tank oh shit I was caught hopelessly out of position by better players, better press the cyno button that was close I nearly didn't kill all of them

>>174446691
No fuck off. There is already not enough people coming to null. Stop killing content even more.

>>174446890
>is killing content with afk camping
>is killing content by joining wormhole blue donuts
>is killing content by being NC. PL HK
>says "stop killing content even more"
??

>>174442043
Give us the ability to turn off stargates so we can rat in peace.

remove local from null
null is now fixed and so is afk cloaky camping

you can already rat in peace since currently the best ratting ships are not tacklable and just frag anything in seconds

>>174446875
Dual boxing carriers and fax machines is really hard

Muktiboxing dreads is easier tho since it's a stationary gun boat there isn't really any element you have to worry about regarding skill beyond capacitor management and refitting

Supers are the same, dual boxing Super carriers is a big no no because there's so much shit you can fuck up

I can't say I've ever seen someone run dual box titans

>>174446996
>afk camping
Doesn't matter. You shitfit vni isn't content.
>womrhole blue donuts
Wormholers roll into null and bring content
>being NC. PL HK
Not relevant to wormholes

>>174447176
>fix cloaky camping by buffing it

>i don't have a solution to the problem
>i know, just remove local and hide the problem
>just like how i avoid finding solutions to real life issues and would rather just hide them away

>>174447195
>so much shit you can fuck up

only because the ship's entire existence currently is about fully exploiting ccp's failure to fix their slippery escape games so you can run from everything

>>174447348
>muh real life

>>174447349
You can't run from anything

>>174447312
I don't think you understand what afk cloaky camping is, you put an alt in a system cloaked and everyone has to stay docked on the tiny chance you're not actually afk

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>>174446890
>There is already not enough people coming to null.
Where do you live?

I'm in deep sovnull and we get blops drops, dreadbombs, cloaky campers, roaming small gangs, roaming solofags, random lowsec and PVP alliances coming in via WHs, w-space autists rolling holes 23/7 and even multiboxers camping jump bridges and pipe gates.

I can barely mine for an hour before I have to join some home defense fleet. Null income isn't even worth all the trouble that comes with holding sov. I'd make more Isk if I put my alts in FW or a krabhole.

Maybe you don't actually live in nullsec but just base out of NPC stations and want easy kills?

>>174446996
>you're killing content because you're engaging in pvp

I bet when I ganks your shit in high sec you also call suicide ganging killing content

Fact is you don't even make content but you'll whine that there is no content

>>174447532
>everyone has to stay docked
That's entirely your fault.

>>174447534
I live in delve

>>174447481
>You can't run from anything

>infinite range
>can fit cloak
>can fit neuts and shit in highs
>can apply x thousand dps to any target
>no reason to ever not align out
>10s align
>oops you lost tackle for 1 second I teleported to my pos 5 jumps away gf good game design ccp

>>174447532
>you have to dock up

No you choose to dock up

>escaping is a bad game design

>>174447968
very large ships that are more mobile than very small ships and require no support and specialise in noncommittal bullshit is incredibly bad

>>174447676
>I live in delve
Join Co2 if you want more content at your doorsteps.

>i'm unable to send a dictor to bubble the super
>i'm unable to apply neuts to keep it below jump cap
>i'm unable to shoot the fighters
>waah ccp why i just want ez frags

>>174448086
>more mobile
no
>require no support
no

>>174448159
C02 doesn't do literally anything else but cloaky camp.

>salt general

dearies look at the state of this thread dearies

>>174448280
>more mobile
>no

they're effectively a battleship in terms of align time but they can jump about 10 jumps, taking them between total safety and the fight instantly. you can always be there when some idiot presses a button and you right click, you are never out of position. getting to the fight in time requires no thought

>require no support
>no

there is no ship these cannot kill. they are not like pre haw cancer dreads where they're capital ships with capital weapons made for shooting capitals, they can just F1 on any target. the only reason other ships exist is to tackle things for them

>>174448280
>C02 doesn't do literally anything else but cloaky camp.
They get lots of fights in and around Impass. Catch is PVP central.

>it's just the one faggot mad at capitals again

>>174448767
>it's that one retard not seeing the huge effect they have on literally everything

>>174438772
Its kinda like WOW with better economy system

>>174449321
Literally you crying about fighters you refuse to kill or jam

Protip a single kitsune with multi spec jammer can still reliably jam all the fighters of a carrier. Also fighters are stupidly easy to hit.

Haws dreads aren't used in fleets except for those idiots trying to copy Mr Hyde in some solo shit

>>174449757
>want to kill this solo ratter like the old days?
>well you can't, because solo ratters are carriers now so you need a fleet so you died

>want to solo tackle it in your dedicated tackling ship? no sorry, the fighters go 10km/s you died/had to bail and it escaped

>you brought 10 guys plus the mandatory ecm ship which you are stupid if you don't bring and its your own fault? well even though he was completely out of position and had nothing prepared in advance, he pressed the button and some other people right clicked, so now there's 4 carriers

>"it's ok for it to be this powerful because it's a capital ship"

now you can write out a post about how you think I am unable to compose a fleet to blob a carrier successfully because you're dumb and miss the point

>>174450150
>No one flies VNIs, Rattlesnakes, DED plex Tengus or smartbombing Machs
>W-space isn't full of Rattlesnakes
>I should be able to solo capital ships in my nanofag SFI or coward Stratios

>>174448619
>there is no ship these cannot kill.
What does this even mean? Any ship can kill any ship and no ship is magically immune to others

>>174450150
>>well you can't, because solo ratters are carriers now so you need a fleet so you died
Wow you can't solo a carrier so you're crying? This is all I'm getting from your nonsensical shit it's like you don't know how capitals work

>>174450859
>VNIs
>Rattlesnakes

those are overpowered too in a similar manner to carrers but obviously far far less cancerous

>DED plex Tengus

they're in DED plexes so you can't get them

>smartbombing Machs

rare

>W-space

W-space is full of nothing

>I should be able to solo capital ships in my nanofag SFI or coward Stratios
>I should be able to solo any pvp ship that comes my way in my pve ship. it's ok, because it's a capital ship

>>174451037
what a retarded post. in eve, you are not guaranteed to apply your damage. if for some reason a dreadnought got tackled by a small fast ship, it would not be able to kill it. if a turret battleship got tackled by an interceptor, it would not be able to kill it. they require support from other ships. with a carrier or supercarrier, they can happily just F1 anything, they don't need to use their brains or fly in a particular way or use a certain weapon or anything

>>174451172
maybe learn to read better and/or kill yourself then retard

>>174450150
LOL nigga just shoot the fighters the kitsune is there just to cheese it. Shoot the fucking fighters. They're piss weak and die to light drones, no resists and 2k raw hp it's hilarious how fragile they are

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>smartbombing Machs
>rare

>>174451280
This is bait. Vni aren't over powered

Just because you can't solo something because you're a fuckin loser doesn't mean shit

>>174451480
go on anon, if VNIs aren't overpowered, explain why people use them instead of other navy cruisers

your post isn't bait, you're just fucking dumb

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cloaky Camping Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Remove Local Haha

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>>174451568
This is the state of /dog/ these days

>>174451568
>explain why people use them instead of other navy cruisers
I use the Omen Navy issue all the time. I use the osprey navy issue because it's super fast and the stabbed fleet issue is a piece of shit

Go fucking cry about it

>>174451787
fleet stabber is dank, fuck off

>>174451787
give me your ratting Omen Navy and Osprey Navy Issue fits

>>174451882
Slow and garbage, no fitting and autocannons suck ass

>>174451787
you rat in an omen navy issue?

you realise a vni does more dps than you while afk, and can pop nearly all tacklers with zero effort, while your ship just fucks shit and dies

What to do when someone with a much larger supply is constantly undercutting you by large amounts?

From what I know he might be trying to get me low enough to buy out all my supply and then raise it back up or tanking the prices to bully me out.

It's not gonna be a huge loss to me or anything but wat do in this situation?

>jump into wspace system
>it's not full of rattlesnakes

>>174451970
>>174451893
B-but This ship isnt as good at a tast than the other ship so its must be shit.
Please dont embarass yourselves.

>You cant rat in a guardian so its probably a terrible logistics cruiser
>And who uses a rorqual for ratting? Confirmed for trash.

>>174452539
>discussion is about ratting ships
>poster points out the versatility of the Vexor Navy Issue and uses it as support for the claim that the VNI is the most ubiquitous ratting ship

>some faggot comes in going NUH-UH, OMENS AND OSPREYS ARE GOOD TOO
>gets confronted with, "okay, show me a ratting fit that stays on topic with the discussion of ratting VNIs being versatile and ubiquitous

>LOL UR DUMB
>starts going off topic to defend his tangential argument
okay son

The project discovery change to exoplanets is coming in May?
Is it perhaps a good idea to try and stock up on analysis kredits before then so i can buy any new stuff they add to the SoE LP store, given that they will be in high demand when first out?

Or should i not waste time with that?
Also will my analyst rank 750 be saved?

>>174452539
>ship A is better than ship B at ratting because of these 10 reasons

>y-yeah but even though we're talking about ratting, it's good at these other things we aren't talking about
>please don't embarass yourselves XD

I'm embarassed for you

>>174452359
Just wait for a few days. Chances are he's gonna buy our the market once he's lowered prices. Focus on your other orders in the meantime

>>174452849
They're going to reset everyone's rank and analysis kredits.

>>174451970
>you rat in an omen navy issue?
LOL shit isn't overpowered for ratting who gives a fuck

Vexor Navy issues are used because they're easy no one thinks of pve balance unless it's with npcs

>>174453960
>no one thinks of pve balance

I'm well aware of ccp's incompetence, it's what we've been discussing this whole time

>>174452765
No one has ever (except this loser) considered something to be op because it's good at ratting

Ccp has never considered pve efficacy for balance decisions ever

if only there was a module that slows enemy ships down

>>174454112
the discussion was about ratting ships
>but these other ships are good in pvp
the discussion was still about ratting ships

>>174454095
Fucking cry about it shitter

"this particular ship is good at pve that's overpowered "

VNIs aren't even very good at pve anyway

They're better than other navy cruisers maybe, but they're still shitty compared to every other option

People use them because they're a low SP option that works for AFK lazies

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>tfw too bad at EVE to shoot PVP fit ships
>VNIs are overpowered so you can't even gank ratting newbies and low SP alts
>everyone else flies carriers but you have no friends to help you break their tank and kill their fighters

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>The VNI is overpowered because people use it rather than other navy ships

>>174454846
nothing about this makes me a shitter, please try to be more intelligent

>>174455038
they are better than they should be, it doesn't matter that there are better things for more sp/isk

>>174455207
don't dogpost me faggot, I've got more dog pictures than you can even imagine

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>don't dogpost me faggot, I've got more dog pictures than you can even imagine

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>don't dogpost me faggot, I've got more dog pictures than you can even imagine

>>174455398
>they are better than they should be
based on what exactly? the fact that people prefer them? they don't even make 60m/h

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VNIs are fucking easy to kill as fuck, they are literally only good for ratting. And if the pilot isn't retarded like 90% or null ratters and has neuts, bait scram or abandons the heavies for a deply of a flight of lights then he deserves to kill you anyway.

>>174455628
based on the fact that you're afk and your isk per hour is more than zero

>>174455628
Hell even alphas who can afford to get a VNI can't even use the highest tier drones

>>174455398
explain this
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/696886241/

>>174455743
if they're AFK then they're super easy to kill.

I sit AFK mostly AFK when mining, what then?

>>174455904
what am I explaining exactly

>>174455932
>your brawling frigate instantly dies to battleship drones from an afk ratting cruiser and also all the rats are attacking you because you're on grid and have a scram fitted and that makes you a higher priority target than the guy who literally kills your npc faction for hours at a time every day

>>174455726
This

I've only been baited once with a blops it was a max tanked dominix ratting that was actually pretty hard to kill and I almost lost my max DPS panther purely because I wasn't expecting it

>>174456119
>>your brawling frigate instantly dies to battleship drones from an afk ratting cruiser
heavy drones can't apply to frigs at all.

>>174456294
you don't know what you're talking about. if you can survive the initial instapop where they haven't killed their own tracking yet, and the drone ship is slow so you can go slow, then you might live. if it's a 100mn and you don't have a web, then you have no chance at all

>>174456119
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/696886241/reset/group/26/losses/page/4/

all these solo VNI kills

>>174456480
Yea I fucking do and heavies can't hit frigs at all

>>174456490
I checked 5 of them and they're all to an orthrus, which makes them not relevant, since the orthrus does not rely on speed tanking to mitigate damage, it can just F1 the vexor and it'll die in a few seconds. any cruiser can do that, only with the orthrus it has insanely stupid tackle range so it can actually catch them

>>174456480
>you don't have a web
wow good thing I'm not a retard and I'm in a malediction going 5k and your drones only do what? 2k? good luck faggot

>>174456724
>they don't count because I said so
this massive asspain damage control

>>174456738
>malediction
>solo frigate

sounds like you are a retard actually desu

>>174456587
so when I get volleyed into structure and have 4 seconds to bail, I'm just imagining it, right?

>>174456932
>malediction isn't a frigate

>>174456932
>so when I get volleyed into structure and have 4 seconds to bail, I'm just imagining it, right?
maybe because you're fucking shit and you can't help but make up scenarios that don't happen because you just want to whine and bitch.

>>174456903
your fucking stupid

>>174457076
>you're stupid because I can't deal with the fact that VNI's are super fucking easy to kill so it doesn't count because I said so

>>174457051
>fleet tackle frigate with 0 dps
>solo frigate

>afk ratter thinks these are the same thing

>maybe because you're fucking shit and you can't help but make up scenarios that don't happen because you just want to whine and bitch.

I could literally go tackle an afk vni right now if you like

>drones will auto target my frig
>they trundle over at 2km/s or something and arrive before the vni dies
>if the first volley doesn't kill me, the second one will if I'm still on grid

>>174457181
an orthrus is not a brawling frigate. there's really not much more I can do for you if you don't understand this

eve online
>we welcome newbros as long as you get on your knees and suck vet dick
>if you try to challenge us or challenge the game, we will reee so hard, you don't even know
>why is eve dying?

>>174457303
>>fleet tackle frigate with 0 dps
>>solo frigate
Why does it have to be a solo frigate? people use interceptors in nullsec, hell I wouldn't be surprised that a sabre gets in and tackles you.

>afk ratter thinks these are the same thing
who cares what he thinks he's AFK and his drones are 30-50km away shooting another target and won't readily switch to the tackler because another rat is closer.

>drones will auto target my frig
no they won't, they'll keep shooting their current target and pick the next closest target.

>an orthrus isn't a brawling frigate
oh so unless its a frigate, not just any frigate but it must be a BRAWLING frigate in your retarded hypothetical situation it doesn't count as a solo kill on an AFK VNI?

>>174457509
>Why does it have to be a solo frigate?
>why does it have to be what we're actually talking about?

>no they won't, they'll keep shooting their current target and pick the next closest target

no, they'll swap to the pvp ship after their current target is dead, which will always be very fast because their dps is retarded

>oh so unless its a frigate, not just any frigate but it must be a BRAWLING frigate in your retarded hypothetical situation it doesn't count as a solo kill on an AFK VNI?

how are you this retarded

>x is too strong vs y

>yeah but anon, look at this killmail of x dying to a titan, why do you insist on not flying a titan?
>does it not count as a solo kill vs x unless you aren't flying a titan?

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>Exploring
>Find wormhole
>C1
>5 control towers and several large ships on dscan

>>174457864
>>why does it have to be what we're actually talking about?
No its what YOURE talking about in your retarded made up scenario

>>174453945
Reseting the rank does make sense but taking away your faction currency sounds idiotic, im not sure i believe that

Perhaps it would just be unusable for the new stuff amd it would be replaced with "exocredits" or whatever

>>174457938
so I raise the issue, and now you're shitting on me for not talking about orthruses instead of what i'm actually talking about

kys desu

>>174457864
>no, they'll swap to the pvp ship after their current target is dead, which will always be very fast because their dps is retarded
No they won't. They never do. when a frig rat tackles you, your drones won't switch to it for ages

>how are you this retarded
how retarded are you to bring a brawling frig to a fucking null roam thats not a fucking interceptor with a point?

>>174458085
>frig rat

a frig rat is not the same as a player ship

>how retarded are you to bring a brawling frig to a fucking null roam thats not a fucking interceptor with a point?

apparently extremely retarded, since I get instapopped by battleship drones on an afk ratting ship flown by a 6 month newbie and this is totally balanced and it's all my fault for solo roaming instead of being a fleet tackler for a blob

>>174458036
>I raise the issue and you're shitting on me
you're retarded because your ideas are retarded. VNI's aren't OP. They're easy to fucking kill and even easier because they're AFK

>not talking about orthruses
its a fucking kill mail who cares what it was killed with. You're the one who thinks it doesn't count because you said so.

>>174458203
>a frig rat is not the same as a player ship
who fucking cares the drones are a NON-ISSUE. Use a fucking malediction with a point, drones will never catch you and the AFK VNI can't escape even if he wasn't AFK!

>i got instaopped by battleship drones
post lossmail you're so fucking bad this is hilarious

>>174457937
How is the general population in wormholes now? A couple of years ago it was just stupidly overpopulated.

>>174458324
>its a fucking kill mail who cares what it was killed with

I care what it was killed with, because the damage application of combat drones vs smaller ships doesn't make it impossible to deal with fragile drone ships when you're in a fucking orthrus faglord

>Use a fucking malediction with a point, drones will never catch you and the AFK VNI can't escape even if he wasn't AFK!

how does permatackling it with a fleet tackler make the VNI die? and how does it make the VNI's performance vs brawling frigates acceptable?

>post lossmail you're so fucking bad this is hilarious

nothing I did was bad, you're bad

>>174457998
https://youtu.be/vbc_miNR3F0?t=28m30s

That's what the guy said at Fanfest.

>>174458627
>care what it was killed with,
because you're a stupid fuck who thinks VNI's are OP because they can't be killed by a retarded brawling atron or something.

>how does permatackling it with a fleet tackler make the VNI die?
Oh man, use your big boy brain. friendly fleet warps to you and they kill it.

>omg its OP because it killed an atron

>nothing I did was bad
bringing a "brawly frigate" to capture and try to solo a VNI

>>174458748
>because they can't be killed by a retarded brawling atron or something

they should be very killable with anything. if you think you should be able to rat and defend yourself from pvpers while literally being afk, you should kys. if you think heavy drones should apply like they do to small ships you should kys

>friendly fleet

why should an afk cruiser with "bad damage application vs small ships" require a fleet to kill it instead of a single high damage mitigation frigate?

>>174459127
>they should be very killable with anything.
says you you dumb fuck.

Should moa's be nerfed because an Ibis doesn't do enough dps to overcome the shield regen?

Fucking cry about it, no one has any problem killing AFK VNI's but you because you can't seem to figure it out

>friendly fleet
why are you flying a fleet fit if you don't have a fleet to back you up?

>>174458346
From my very limited experience of poking my head into wormholes and hitting dscan, it seems like they're pretty populated, but I've only ever been into maybe a dozen w-space systems ever.

>>174459270
>Should moa's be nerfed because an Ibis doesn't do enough dps to overcome the shield regen?

no, moa uses turrets, so you can mitigate their damage in a sensible way, so it's possible to kill them if you outplay them in a smaller ship. do you understand the difference here? with a broken drone ship like a vni or gila, there is no way to outplay them like that up close, and the pilot doesn't even need to be awake. you die

>why are you flying a fleet fit if you don't have a fleet to back you up?

I'm not flying a fleet fit you absolute retard, you imagined the whole thing

>>174459525
This is bait, you can't be this retarded

>wah CCP nerf VNI's because I can't be super fucking retarded and win with my garbage fit

>its not a fleet fit
whats this then?

>how does permatackling it with a fleet tackler make the VNI die?
Fleet tackler, implies fleet fit

>>174459652
>Fleet tackler, implies fleet fit

fleet tackler is what you're flying. you want to go around in a malediction with blob support and press orbit mwd and warp disruptor. I'm talking about solo pvp. I have been talking about solo pvp this entire time, in short range frigates. not in fleet tacklers

>>wah CCP nerf VNI's because I can't be super fucking retarded and win with my garbage fit

my fits are very strong and I'm a really good pvper

>>174459525
What happens if I had a smartbombing machariel that was cap stable and went AFK, would you whine that my smartbombs kill you because you wanna brawl?

>>174459797
>fleet tackler is what you're flying.
Oh so you're making up more shit?

Why don't you gitgud and do what works? How about stop trying to kill a VNI with a retarded brawl fit frig and bring something better?

>blob
I didn't know having friends and having fun were "blobs"

lol go be shit you dumb fuck You haven't gotten killed by VNI drones, you got killed by the Sanctum 10/10 rats the VNI was running

>>174459821
maybe. I'd probably just brawl you from outside smartbombing range. I'd be more mad about all the rats shooting me desu

>>174460053
>brawl
>from 9km
good luck

>>174460156
Rocket Kestrel OP

>>174460053
What if I had a cap stable tengu with a medium shield booster that could tank 500dps ez

whats your faggy ass atron gonna do?

>>174460306
with autotargetting missiles

>>174460031
>Oh so you're making up more shit?

here's what actually happened. I've been saying this whole time that it's fucked how heavy drones can just instantly frag any frigate that isnt' going higher than their max speed. and you came along, or some other retard, and suggested that instead of solo killing the VNI in a brawling frigate, that I instead "solo kill" it by tackling it in a malediction and having friends come in and kill it. and now you're all confused/retarded about it for some reason

>I didn't know having friends and having fun were "blobs"

regardless, it's not what we're talking about. there's a very simple issue here that we could focus on if you were less dumb - drone damage application. but instead, in typical r/dog fashion, we get sidetracked talking about orthruses and "why are you solo" and "your fit is shit" and it just goes on forever because you're so unbelievably retarded

>>174460306
nothing. but you wouldn't kill me in 4 seconds while afk

>>174460465
Heres whats happening

You are retarded, this is a fact

You are a fuckin bad taking a knife to a gun fight

This is bait

CCP doesn't give a fuck about your retarded ass suggestions because you won't do fuck all to gitgud

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>tfw you buy a rattlesnake and fit it
>run a few missions
>decide you don't like it compared to a raven or a dominix
>fly it back to jita
>sell it
>lose 150 mil between insurance/rigs/reselling costs

I'm such a useless faggot and all I do is make stupid decisions that cost me isk and waste my time like I'm some sort of retarded monkey.

I can never tell if this is just bait or real autism

>>174460731
Its autism

>>174460650
>afk ratting ship
>gun fight

no. back in the day, people ratted with heavy missiles and turrets, and rats didn't defend ratters. if you got caught by a soloer you had a serious situation on your hands. now, you just do nothing and your 800 dps heavy drones and the rats will save your ass. I'm already far more gitgud than you'll know, but back when things weren't retarded, ratters had to gitgud a little bit too

>>174460890
gitgud

>back in the day
>neut enters local
>log off

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>>174460969
gudder than you are

>F2P
Since when? I haven't heard about this game in a while, spoon feed anyone please? I hope now it's not P2W like literally every F2P ever.

I was considering Star Citizen to be honest but if this is free then I want to give it a try.

>>174461325
since last october

>>174461325
There is no gold ammo or anything like that. You're still gimped as a f2p player because you don't have access to all the ships and progress at a slower rate than someone who's subbed but it's not impossible to grind your way to omega status.

>CCP makes it possible to play for free

>free players bitch and moan that there isn't zero reasons to pay

>>174461875
they do?

>>174461325
it's not f2p it's just a permanent trial

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How to beat the system?

>>174463884
have you considered getting good?

How do I make wh money and is there a wh equivalent of horde that just let's me leech off them like the lazy piece of shit I am?

>>174465925
Generally wh corps don't want leechs because it is easy to fuck things up. Also the manpower requirements are slightly different, so it's not like having a few extra shitters will be a massive bonus when HK comes around.

If you don't have a dedicated scanning alt, some industry skills, high sub-cap skills, and a hauler alt, it is probably just going to be a low income pain in the asshole moving into wormhole space.

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NEWFAG HERE

coming from elite, thinking it was going to be that dream game i always wanted ever since i played space rangers 2 as a child

then after me and my friend realized its a glorified space shooter i just had to glance at eve

WHAT
AM
I
IN
FOR

>>174466939
You're in for an average of 2 years of gitting gud before you can start playing for real, unless you can get a vouch from someone in a good corp.

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>if I join a meme corp I'll be gud

>>174466939
make sure you use an invite so you get 250k free sp

>>174467070
what if i want to be a sneaky leach

like i was in space rangers 2

just slowly build myself up by helping lads gank other lads then get the salvage and when im good enough gank small ships then run the fuck away?

i love being a selfish cunt in these games, i think seeing a post on ed forums about setting a bounty and keeping me out of a system made it all worth it

>>174467375
>wanting to start ganking day 1
>wanting to be a selfish cunt in eve online from day 1

Goodbye friendo, you won't be here long.
Unfortunately this game is autistic enough that you have to play it like a career, at the top end everybody knows everybody and their history goes back 6 years +, starting off with shitty piracy is probably just gonna end up with a bad zkill and a lot of upset bears.
Get into the game, join a newbie corp, find someone in there doing something you kind of like, take the first opportunity you are given to drop the newbie corp and fly with someone better.

If I am correct Merc Acc has an alpa corp if you want to learn gatecamping and generally shitting up high/low sec, so if you are certain about being a dick, go be one there but make sure to befriend your corpmembers and the locals.

If you ignore the honoribrue path and make everyone hate you, you will end up like Stunt.

>>174467816
who's stunt lol

also its not neccesarily about shitting up a sector its more for the keks

i wouldnt even kill people just make them distracted enough and sperg out and send a fleet after me
just need a fast hit n run ship

literally the most fun

>>174467375
play through the tutorials and then find yourself a pirate corp if you want to git gud
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Alpha_Waffles

if you just want to harvest tears hooking up with http://www.minerbumping.com/ or joining Goons (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/corporations) and getting into miniluv might be a good idea

>>174468456
sounds like concentrated autism

>>174468456
>getting into miniluv might be a good idea
He needs a vouch, a decent highsec ganking history or at least 3 months in the alliance to join miniluv if I recall correctly.

>>174468442
stunt is anime

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>Now an age old way of creating alts often referred to as “Cooking an alt” is whereby you upgrade them for once month and let that account expire. Once you log in after the expiry it will turn into an alpha clone, however this is only after you log in. Any skills set to train before the expiry will keep training until you log in. This was traditionally used by Dread pilots to create alts coining the term “Cooking a Dread alt.”

>What this all means is you can create an upgraded alt for about one bil and que up all the skills above, let it expire, than extract and resub once they have been trained. This method is currently how every large skill farm works. This mechanic has been in the game since it's inception and was introduced initially to encourage returning players to resub. After the introduction of skill extractors the developers forgot about this mechanic or simply don't consider it game breaking enough to change.

Is this true?

>>174470138
>alpha clone
>in the game since it's inception

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61685961/

No anime allowed

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>'Augmented' Ogre

This thread is conclusive proof that frigatefags should be purged irl

>>174470821
who are you quoting?

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>who are you quoting?

>Join shitty highsec corp for explo loot buyback and BPO copy access
>corp starts up PvP branch
>Most of corp is newbies or industry players
>head of pvp branch is the latter, no idea how they got the position
>doesn't want to get feet wet in FW plexes, only interested in null and WH
>most experienced pvp player is told to cook up fittings with only T1 modules so we can "build them ourselves"
>corp is about to take a bunch of newbies into null with T1 fitted frigs as a first PvP experience
Should I go lads? What should I fly?

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>>174470138
I've read multiple topics about it, all of them conflicting reports.
It works
It doesn't work
It works but only for 24 hours/a week/stops as soon as you log back in
etc

>>174471213
yes why not, sounds like fun
at least they're trying to create content

>>174471213

maulus.

might as well keep the rest of the newbies alive from shit that will kite them at 50+ km.

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How much ISK do you guys earn per hour max? If you really tried?

>>174475414
1bil not including rare drops

>>174475414
I sold 28 injectors in an hour.

>>174475414
900m/h easy doing L5 missions and selling via sell orders

I wanna do some solo pvp and exploration in low and null sec.

Where go

>>174475916
Solo Null is non existent

your best chance to get solo is faction war lowsec

>>174475916
pick a non-npc nullsec region that is not a busy meme region. and don't do it in an exploration ship, that's silly

>solo null
>everything is either a T3C, an interceptor or a garmur

>>174475916
The Sansha regions have the best exploration loot, try there.

>>174476960
then go to a different part of nullsec

>>174478156
north
>renters
north east
>russian renters that blob with capitals
east
>more russians that blob with capitals
south east
>just russians in general
south
>test co2 and other nullblobs
southwest
>goons
west
>maybe some fights here, never been
northwest
>the fuck even happens here?

>>174478742
>northwest
Get blobbed by Horde

>>174479447
didn't they become elite high sec pirates with that whole burning perimeter thing?

>>174468442
Being a pain in the ass is okay if you are a nice guy, if you are insufferable in local, right back to being Stunt.

>NRDS

Is this still a thing in Providence with CVA? Haven't played in years

Is this standings chart for FW still accurate? What are the slashes for?

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Factional_Warfare_Standings

>>174485524
yes

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Fast price copy feels like cheating. Thoughts?

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Post wallets

>>174488862
On mobile but
>tfw 1.7b wallet
>tfw too lazy to rat so it's been like that for 2 weeks now
Kill me

>>174488862
why?

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>>174488862
Got about 25b in BPOs as well

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>>174490096

m8, why do you have so much liquid isk?
are you saving up for super?

>>174491668
i havent played much the past couple weeks because of a war dec. kind of hard to move stuff around high sec in a freighter during a war.

my next purchase is going to be two JFs in about 40 days.

ANOOOOOOOOOONN
GET ON COMMS

>>174492923
They like you! They just want to hear your voice and about your day.

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>That one guy that doesn't get on comms and inconveniences everyone else by typing intel into fleet chat that no one reads

>>174493752
He's a spy

>That one guy who always tells jokes on comms and makes everyone uncomfortable

>>174476960
that's a good thing retard, you can kill all of those in a T1 frigate

>>174494518
Show me one of your killmails where you soloed a T3C with only a T1 frigate.

>>174494678
>however will I get under the guns of this beam confessor or arty svipul? nah that shit's just impossible

>>174494739
>confessor or arty svipul

Those aren't T3C

>>174494812
fuck, I can't believe I misread that twice

>>174476960
If you come GE-8JV I'll be waiting there in my meta-fit Drake.

>8 rorqs

how will dronelands anon ever recover

>>174495050
omw ;)

>>174485524
If you join one of the smaller PvP corps in Providence that are not part of the CVA alliance it only applies in space controlled by CVA or anthother sov holder in the alliance. So you can fly into say HED-GP and blow up all the nuets you want.

>>174495050
>Brave space
No thanks.

>>174497420
I like brave. They always want to fight.

>>174495924
>multiboxer
[muffled blyaaaaaaat in the distant region]

>activate alt to be skillfarm
>end up using it a shitload
>need another 4 skillfarm alts to generate extra isk for both accounts

How deep is this rabbit hole?

>>174498947
Wait till you have a notepad with 36 accounts. Welcome to Wonderland.

>account details in plain text

>>174499229
are all those alphas and you're having to reset the queue every other day?

>>174499327
Have a paper decryption key on the underside of my toilet seat.
>>174499359
Yes It's not too hard I have a bot I made to do it automatically for me.

>>174499229
I only made enough alphas to cover the cost of plex for 2 characters assuming the monthly profit would be 250mil
Manually doing it isnt so bad, been at it since January. I do it while I wait for the rice cooker in the morning.

>Mining in high sec in an Orca with 4 mining drones and 1 scout drone to take care of rats
>Check back every hour or so to switch mining drones to new rocks
>afk the rest of the time
Is there anything comfier?

>>174500814
Yeah, not being poor.

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>I have more isk than you

>>174502068
t. venture miner

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>when you get your second freighter pilot

feelsgoodman

>>174502336
but how good is the venture tho?
a fresh noob can pick a couple of good rocks and set it mining, come back with about 1M worth of ore
Great ship.

>>174502451
You can also take it to FW, use it to plex and after 10 mintues you have 20m.

>>174502709
>buy faction items from FW LP
>fly through uedama
>dead

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>>174503313
>not exchanging LPs in highsec
>not paying some noobs to haul your items

>>174460890
>vni
>800dps

anyone here live in a c1 wormhole?

is it comfy?

didn't mean to quote

>>174505904
I lived in a c1 for a while with a friend, before citadels were a thing.
It was pretty comfy. The money you can make is okay if you do every site/huff every gas cloud
More if you mine as well I imagine but I didn't do that.

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>quoting

>>174455038
>They're better than other navy cruisers maybe, but they're still shitty compared to every other option
What other options are there
1. Ishtar - same as VNI but better in gurista space.
2. Rattlesnaek - feels gay and not at all faster and comfier than VNI , maybe my fit was shit but i dunno
3. Carrier - yea just train a carrier, ez.
4. Machangiel - i dunno really, is it good? Is it bad? Feels like it has the same dps as rattle but if rats get near you you fucked. Maybe i should try machriel? What to fit? Auto or arti? Warp at 100? Against drones
5. dominix - i guess he's good for poor multiboxing
6. maradeurs, t3 cruisers, whatever - all require ammo. just as everything not-vni, don't allow afk farming, require more skills and more isk.
7. Gila
8. Wait, you were serious about gila? lol

>>174506212
weren't gilas ok before the slot nerf

jeela

>Machangiel

>>174506270
I don't know, they just have less dps, require missiles and cost much more. You can get two VNI for the price of one gila.

>>174506270
they were retardedly overpowered before the nerf, and they're retardedly overpowered after the nerf

>>174505904
It's anti-comfy. It makes you poor, you can't roll your static holes for new chains, and you're permanently an easy eviction target.