EVE Online General /eog/

>jewish ref link scam still not deleted

Eve needs more support for Exploration that doesn't involve multiboxing a scout, a scanner and a combat ship all at once.

>>174149921
>fit a probe launcher on pve boat
???

>>174149908

>>174149921
eve needs more support for non-multiboxing gameplay in general

>>174150001
>Spend 15 minutes chasing down a 99.8% signature
>Have to scan more than 2 times to get regular signatures
>Even if you do all that, your ship is going to get shit on in anything higher than a 4/10 unless it's a Battleship, CS or a T3C
>If it's a Battleship, CS or a T3C you better have a scout

The problem here is that there isn't really a practical difference between a Battlecruiser and a T3D. A Confessor can do 4/10's just fine, the time lost in clearing the site due to low DPS is more than made up in travel time and the ability to GTFO.

remove t3's

>Spend 15 minutes chasing down a 99.8% signature
This is how I know you are retarded

>>174150380
kys

How to fix warpstabs.
>it doesn't give +1 stab
>it gives % resistance to being pointed
>t1 would have X% res, meta and t2 and storyline would have more

>>174151731

>lets add more rng

>>174151731
Are warp stabs broken?

>>174151731
Warp scrambling and webbing needs to be completely overhauled. Those systems are relics from 2004-2005 which as desperately outdated at this point.

>>174152002
Nothing wrong with webs

>>174151731
No this is gay

just disable warp core stabs in FW plexes

Tfw just bought and fitted a vexor navy issue, expecting that jt would be good.
I can do level 2 security missions so i went off to give it a shot.
6-7 stationary towers and 6-7 or so npc cruisers in the encounter.
I survive but most of the time i was floating dead in spafe with no cap and it took me 20-25 mimutes to clear it.
The payment was pittiful.

Am I doing something wrong? I just want a reliable alpha-friendly source of income. Sitting on 600 million isk right now (3 weeks of playtime)

But to be fair i probably spent 500-700million on various ships (FC keeps forcing us on suicide missions against competent players and doesnt supply our ships, so I end up losing like 30+ million isk in ships every other night)

Can I somehow do menial labour for some rich player in exchange for payment? Is manufacturing viable for an alpha?
Im getting hopeless here, anything *fun* is behind the omega wall

>>174152129
Webs should have optimal and falloff range.

>>174152239
maybe you should find a new corp so you aren't bleeding so much isk

>>174152420
So a grappler

>>174152420
>what are grapplers

I think that'll make shit like huginns way more gay. Also Webs already have a 10km optimal with a 13km optimal overheated, I think adding any sort of falloff would make those run way worse

>>174152143
Or disable FW

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>>174152424
I can't
The faggot CEO is whose refferal link im on. Once I go omega he hands you a skill injector and 300million isk
If i leave he won't give that to me.
And no, its not a scam because he has done that for some other corp members already, I'm just too poor to pay the sub with cash so i have to resort to mindless grinding.
Mining is worthless even with omega ships unless you multibox
Scanning is hit and miss, not reliable at all
Missions are shit, and level 4 missions need omega ships
Incursions arent doable with an alpha either
Neither is proper industry or research
I cant even get a proper hauler to try and jew my way into more isk, since im very limited in buy and sell orders and modules.
I really fail to see a solution

wtf the rats keep targeting my drones
lights used to be the best but now I'm tempted to go with sentries so I stop losing drones while they're returning to bay

>>174153639
>The faggot CEO is whose refferal link im on. Once I go omega he hands you a skill injector and 300million isk
then do that, collect your skill injector and 300m and leave.

>if I leave then he won't give it to me
then collect it first, then leave later.

>mindless grinding
if you don't pay for the sub with real money, you don't get the bonus from the referral link. It means he doesn't get the plex to share with you

>>174152239
>>174153639
post your shitty VNI fit

He thinks it's okay for cloaky campers to enjoy perfect safety.

He wants the game to become safer.

We already have cheap as balls citadels but now want to make sure cloaky camping is just as safe, but without any of the downsides.

>xe thinks it's about safety

>he thinks I'm AFK

>>174154076
>High slots
[Drone Link Augmentor I]
[250mm Prototype Gauss Gun] (iron chage) x2
[Salvager I]
>Mid slots
[10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner]
[Denny Enduring Omnidirectional Tracking Link] x2
[Drone Navigation Computer I]
>Low slots
[AE-K Compact Drone Damage Amplifier] x3
[Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructor I]
[Upgraded Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I]
[IFFA Compact Damage Control]
>Rigs
[Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I]
[Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I]
[Medium Auxillary Nano Pump I]

Drone bay is loaded with [Hammerhead I]s, since i cant use anything better as an alpha

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>>174155120

>>174155120
Nigger you don't even have the skills to be flying a Cruiser. Park it and go buy a Destroyer or faction frigate. Shit, train for a T3D or something. a Confessor or Jackdaw are better PvE ships for <10m SP characters than 90% of the other ships in the game, and the Svipul is decent enough too.

>>174155120
See
>>174155682
Jackdaw is a fantastic PvE and PvP ship, I'd train into it

>>174155509
>>174155682
>>174155870
O-ok
For now I only have acess to t1 gallente cruisers and destroyers
But I'll try to work from there I guess.
Most profitable ships to fly (for me, right now) are the imicus and a gas-fitted venture so I guess I really don't have any other options

>>174156351
Get an Algos. It's a drone boat like the VNI but it's more your size. Flying ships bigger than what you're skilled for puts you at a massive disadvantage, a frigate can slap on a tech1 Afterburner and speed tank 99% of the incoming damage, a Cruiser doing that will speed tank maybe 70%, a BS maybe 30% etc.

In this case, the Algos won't even be lower DPS since the bottleneck here isn't the Drone Bandwidth but your actual skills, you'll be using the same drones with the same damage mods.

oneiros

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alpha ratting with an algos?

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>>174160279
or a vexor?

downsizing from a vexor to an algos means you lose 20% dps and the ability to repair yourself, but you have half the sig radius and 2.5x the speed, giving you ridiculous speed tank ability

>10mn algos

>>174160810
I tried 1mn and found while that I was CPU capped, I had 50 pg left over. Why not oversize?

Can I join a fw corp, do some plexes and pvp, and leave without ruining my standings?

>>174163471
You mean plexes for LP or fights in plexes? You don't have to join FW enter the plex

>>174165327
Would I lose rep as long as I don't capture the plexes/kill the rats?

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I like space and space sims, convince me not to start playing this game.

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>>174166297
The playerbase can get really autism. But if you just want to do whatever you can somehow exist without any player interaction ez.

>>174166297
If you don't get into a good corp, you just get farmed because nobody can teach you how to be good.
None of the good corps take in new players, good luck getting into one with a character less than 2 years old.

>>174166657
>Avoid autists
So basically the same way I browse this site, got it.

>>174167854
Arent there good corps for new players?

>>174167991
New player corps can't be good in the same way that other corps are, entirely because they take new players. Some of them are in an alliance that will help with that, just don't join karmafleet or horde.

>>174167991

sorta, its best not to stay with them long term though

>>174167991
No.
Two kinds of corps take in newfags: the kind that isn't good and the nullblobs that don't teach you much, but instead just give you some easy tasks to keep you entertained while you pay their taxes and fill out their fleets for whatever project they are currently working on.

>>174168120
>>174168257
>>174168138
So what do I do then, I thought you were supposed to join a corp soonish?
I have to join a shitty corp for 2 years? jesus what.

>>174168405

find one that has a focus in something that interests you, learn as much as you can and make some friends, move on to something better/more focused

newbie corps aren't long term solutions but can be ok places to start in

>>174168405
You can try to join a corp and see for yourself how it's like, but that would take initiative.

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>>174168405
prove to a good corp that you arent just a dumb new shitter and maybe they'll let you in

t. oruze ceo that succed the life from all-out after the trained newbros

>>174168405
Become good quickly enough to get into a real corp faster than that, and buy a shitload of injectors.

>>174168769
>and buy a shitload of injectors

don't fall for this

>>174168898
>anon we need you to fly something from this doctrine
>no i cant im still training fitting skills

>>174168405
Corps are a meme. If you want to forever solo ther e is nothing really stopping you.

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>doctrine

>>174169653
>can I bring my drake
>can I bring my maller

Or, one of my favourites
Anon, we just gut a few newbies, we're running a T1 thrasher fleet
>can I bring my brutix navy

CNR

RNI

>Newbie explorer.
>Find 23 intact armour plates in my first relic site.
>Estimated 125,000,000 ISK in loot, enough to buy a fuckload of replacement ships with meta 4 fittings.
>I need to get this home FAST.
>Lose my bearings attempting to exit wormhole space.
>Falling deeper..
> ..and deeper..
>down the rabbit hole.

How the fuck do I get out of here.

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>>174174334
Self-destruct.

Can someone post the meme with the EVE peasant that says "titan swerve"?

>>174168405
Don't listen to these guys. Find a corp that has room in their doctrine for new players. A smaller corp is better because the big alliances are going to use you as cannon fodder while only teaching you to press F1. If your interested in small gang PvP in nul-sec that trains you to be more than an F1 monkey check out PN4.

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>>174175045

>>174174334
Should've bookmarked exits.

>>174176145
Thank you very much I kept looking through google and couldn't find it.

>>174174334
Scan down an exit. Also remember to bookmark the WH you came in through in the future.

>>174174334
Welcome to the w-space trips, where you dont know when you can go home. More often than not you'll double the amount of isk you have in the cargohold trying to find a decent exit, in my experience.

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>newfag loses his 3mil T1 destroyer to neut fleet
>cries how defense fleet was too slow to save his ass

>>174150380
Get better scan skills and use sisters probes then.

who seriously has a female character in eve? lmao

>>174182704
I wanted to make Faith don't fucking judge me cunt

>>174183325
Good taste, anon.

>>174153737
>not just giving it a new model

>>174154029
Set your drones to passive.

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>>174188339

>>174153639
You're staying on for ~650m+300m isk. Less than a bil. That's fucking chump change son. Hell you've nearly lost that much already staying on. Just cut your losses and go somewhere else. Better yet refer yourself another account and plex that bitch instead.

>>174174334
Look for lower class wormholes. Wormholes will often connect with something lower than themselves. Just follow the chain down till you find a C2 or C1 and that should find you a HS exit.
>>174177309
As this anon said keep an eye out for relic sites in the other wormholes on your way back. Just keep an eye out for hunters.
>>174176980
>>174177170
Also as these guys said bookmark everything, also a good idea to use a wormhole mapping application like tripwire.
Try to include the destination if you know it, the sig letters, the hole type and the time you found it in the bookmarks.

>>174188521
I could be talking out my ass but if I recall there's an agro check every 15 seconds or something and whatever does the most damage at that point will cop the agro.

>>174189293
>As this anon said keep an eye out for relic sites in the other wormholes on your way back. Just keep an eye out for hunters.
Don't sleepers blap you?

>>174153639
>300mil isk
just click on the OP referral and you get 1bil

>>174169113
what sort of shit corp did you join?
any sensible corp will accept your shit SP and just let you age while you fly cheap t1 tackle in the meantime

>>174192176
One that doesn't have room for people who need to fly cheap t1 tackle, but that's just my choice, there are other options.

>>174192815
>no room
is that codeword for terrible leadership?

>>174191815
pirate relic/data sites in c1-3s don't have sleepers

>>174193219
I've missed out..

>>174192901
Some corps have sp and ability to fly doctrine ship requirements.

>>174193495
they're a mainstay income of explorers and explorer hunters

>data/relic sites with sleepers have less payout in the cans than pirate sites

why is this allowed?

>>174194915
because you get blue loot and salvage too

>>174174334

contact Signal Cartel

>>174188647
>Better yet refer yourself another account and plex that bitch instead.
Advice from a retard who doesn't know how the system works.


He is Alpha now, if he referred himself a second account and PLEXed the second account, the '30 days of Omega' reward would go to the first account's redemption list, but be unclaimable, because the first account would still be Alpha.

You need to be Omega to claim referral rewards.

He would need to farm two PLEX (remember, he doesn't want to pay money) to do what you're suggesting, and get a total of 60 days Omega on the first account and 30 days Omega on the second, which is fine, but doesn't help him make the first account Omega any quicker.

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>doctrine

>>174196002
Well I could pay, and probably eventually will, in a couple of weeks once my check lands.
As a student with a drinking problem who only works part-time, I dont have a lot of money to spare on my space autism.

>>174200738
Get over your alcoholism by becoming addicted to Eve instead.

>>174182704
I have 20 characters and they are all female

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How much further training should I do before I buy one and go ratting?

>>174201269
mastery V

>>174200835
Easier said than done. I would if I could.
But even when I'm unsure on how to afford enough food to last me by the end of the month i just find myself with a bottle in hand. Its just when I'm under a lot of stress though, I go vor several months sober if things are looking up.

Anyways, when I make an alt I'll take your advice for the 30+60 days thing
Once ive learned that skill injectors give less and less SP as you learn more skills, it made sense to me why alts are mandatory even if your toaster cant multibox a 15 yearold game

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ayo what the fuck
I've explored to the point where I'd lose a ship once every few months (in null/wh) so I definitely know a little bit about exploration
I came back now after a 6 month break and there's smartbombs and gatecamps literally fucking everywhere now
can't even find a system within 10 jumps of jita that had 0 players pass by in the last hour
plex also costs 30% more than it used to (1.2bil vs 700-800mil)
what the fuck happened
is realistic money in exploration limited to wormholes now, where you have no idea if there's a russian tit in a manticore waiting for you to do the cans?

>>174202693
>exploring
>within 10 jumps of jita

http://eve-scout.com/

use thera to fling you to empty null

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>joining corp with "reddit" in its name

>joining a corp without tengoo in its name

>>174205098

>Tengoo awoxing assistance and logistics

Sounds like a good name.

>>174201269
You need carrier level 4 at least, you need drone sharpshooting, navigation at 5. You need drone durability at 4, you need fighters and light fighters 4

you need evasive maneuvers 5 because aligning to a safe/station/citadel is important

>>174205435
>you need evasive maneuvers 5 because aligning to a safe/station/citadel is important
what he said, seriously don't skimp on that shit. that extra time could make the difference between losing your ship or not

>>174205708
also a 500mn MWD to align in 8 seconds. Make sure you have an Inertial Stabilizer II in one of your lowslots because it won't work without it

>>174205435
so an extra 30 days of skilling.
Nothing tank related? I heard you need a capital shield booster to solo the capital spawns, or are you just supposed to skip and abandon the site

>train a skill to 5 to save 1 second align time

you could just pay attention instead

>>174206170
Just swap your tracking links for extenders.

>>174206170
>so an extra 30 days of skilling.
>Nothing tank related?
You'll need the requisite skills for things like a capital shield extender which will give you enough buffer to last multiple sites without having to dock or tether for repairs. Even then you should be warping to the site at 100km anyway for safety and avoiding damage.

>>174206195
you need the agility for the acceleration when using a MWD, not for explicitly aligning. Without more agility from the inertial stab and EM5 you'll do a MWD spool but still be stuck with an extra 2-3 seconds of aligning because you didn't gain enough speed during the MWD cycle

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>tfw https://zkillboard.com/kill/61619666/

thalia

Republic Fleet Small Shield Extender

>>174211605
>600,000 dropped
wew

>>174211605
Shouldn't it be very hard to impossible to kill those in high sec if he used the cloak properly?

>>174212556
You can't cloak on the jita undock.

>>174212626
oh shit, okay
so what could he have done to get his cargo out of there and not die?

>>174212887
instaundock bookmark

How much is a basic Gallente Freighter V, 5m sp character worth?

>>174211605
>cargo is worth less than the ship
Why even bother?

>>174213837
3.888 * (price of injector - price of extractor) - price of plex - tax per month

>>174214081
You can't cargo scan blockade runners, so ganking them is always a gamble

Eve us ruined and its getting worse and worse
While the game technically is improving, making isk has become so easy and streamlined that nothing has value anymore.
Everyone has 5 accounts that they can plex no problem, a super tucked somewhere etc.
Cloaky campers can do whatever but now its so simple cus 1 guy can make so much isk so easily that he can plex 2 campers, a spy char, a cyno char and a main char. This multiplied by 20 000 or however few people actually play this game.
Ergo camps on every gate, even all of these new amount of WH-s filling up etc.

Where do we even go from here?
Is this the final state of eve? Literally everyone has supers and titans and dreadbombs and will forever always stay in a cold war standoff?

>>174215462
no, CCP will introduce some bigger badder thing and say "no, for reals guys, this time you really won't be able to fill an entire alliance with these!!

>>174215560
Theres no way there arent more vanquishers already than the one Cormack meme one. The isk it costs is nothing at the current rate.

Theyre gonna have to actually add more fucking systems instead of just wormholes to this game soon because with everyone having 2-20 accounts, the whole universe is so thiccly populated that i dont know, defies the whole point of noone being able to hear you scream in space when theres literally 10 people at all time everywhere with you in local.

>>174215779
>making isk is so easy
>they're gonna have to add more systems
>so each person and their alts get a personal system to make ratting even easier
?

>thiccly populated
?

I make runs through lowsec every single fucking day and outside of like 5 hotspots, everywhere else is fucking dead

>>174215779
Burned through 20 systems in nullsec today. Only 3 had more than 2 guys in local.

>>174215898
Well no that was a bit of a 1 sided strawman arguement anyways, the point being that yeah literally at this current insane inflation rate, if they dont somehow change the balance, something is gonna go wrong.
Its a new age where isk flows so fast that you can have dreadbombs logged off in two or three seperate regions with the same people, cus theyre so easy and "cheap" to maintain. They gotta fuck up isk somehow or i cant imagine this game actually going anywhere.

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>mfw /dog/ gets baited on retard's post

>CCP
>changing anything that might hurt NC./PL
>people still don't realize that EVE is basically just a way for CCP and their best friends of 10 years to dick around and play god over a video game

>>174215993
The universe size used to be right for the population, where you could do 20 systems without seeing anyone, but if you did catch someone, there wouldnt be rounded 100 people in cyno distance of them making you shit your pants trying to gank 5 miners.
The isk flow needs to be killed off a bit and the universe expanded so that its more proportionate without letting people iskfarm that shit at the current rate.

>>174215898
Lowsec has always been dead, and always will be dead

Fuck lowsec and fuck you

>>174216236
Also this, I honestly dont know what you would even do in 60% of the lowsec that isnt FW and is dead.
Mine mediocre ice?

>>174216290
i've been flying around in a t3c farming Orthrus and Barghest BPCs from mordu commanders in belts

it's pretty easy doesn't take too long

>Game is dead by most standards
>The universe is too small
Fucking what? There should be 30 to 100 people per system.

Small ship guy here operating out of Kaunokka, 60mil skill points. About to get into heavy assault cruisers, what should I expect out of flying a Cerberus?

>>174216870
stop posting

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>>174216870
Considering there are about 7,800 systems in Eve not counting wormholes for that to be the case Eve would have to have 234,000 to 780,000 players on at any given time. The only games that get those kind of numbers are normie shit like DOTA 2 or CS:GO.

>>174217158
Dota doesnt have 1 person playing in 5 matches simultaneously.

>>174217158
1 million world wide isn't an issue if your game isn't dead. MMO's used to have numbers in the millions once upon a time.

>I won't play this game because not enough other people play it

what kind of fag thinks like this

>>174217209
CCP released stats that showed that, on average, Eve players have only 1.5 accounts.

>>174217269
If memory serves WoW maxed out around 10 million subs. I doubt a tenth of the total playerbase is on at any given time.

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>my sharded, instanced 10 man coop pve game has way more players than eve

>>174217321
attention whore

>waah why aren't people spread evenly

>>174188339
Sleepers killed my drones anyway.

>>174202693
Every time you start doing a site, launch drones. If some tit in a stealth bomber comes for you, they'll kill him in seconds, because stealth bombers rely on surprise tanking.

>>174223636
They are though and thats the problem

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>my comfy wh corp is talking about moving to Nullsec

join goons (except karmafleet)

>>174149687
How to make 1 Billion ISK easily?

>>174225537
I'm guessing you're an alpha?

>>174225537
Buy Plex.

What if cloaks damaged themselves like overheat damage and shit and last about 10 minutes without repair? If you're sitting that long in cloak you're either afk and should just log off or be prepared to lube your ass with nanite.

>10m
>long

>>174226783
Brilliant. Make it happen.

>>174226783
Pissoff. I don't want to have to carry a cargo hold of Nano just to scan out my wormhole chains.

it'd be nice if they could make things have limited uses without them using charges. do I really need to pour isk into my ancillary rep? shit's stupid

>>174226830
you can go 10 minutes without repair, if you're sitting more than 10 minutes in afk then wtf are you doing? If you're actively waiting for stuff to happen then you won't have any problem repairing and if you're afk then you're gay and should have safe logoff.

>>174227184
Make it start breaking down after 2 minutes of stealth then or whatever, don't look at the numbers but on idea. If you're actively doing something you won't have any problem actually doing something. Make it 10 minutes of stealth and then 2 mintues of repair at the cost of 1 nanite.

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>>174227184
Forgot my pic

>>174227295
10 minutes is literally nothing in EVE. The issue with camping is that it goes for days.

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He's back.

>>174227682
>You will never find out who he is and join in afk camping his systems

What if CCP added mod that allowed you to kick wardecked people from empire stations so you can kill them?

Friend scooped and salvaged an Elite Caldari wreck on a high sec gate, ~400m in total loot. Says he thanked local and some whiny bastard started cussing him out, bitching about losing his Cerb to drifters. The wrecked guy has been placing bounties ranging between 1m and 10m on friend for almost two months now (six occasions so far).

I wish I could generate the amount of hate my friend seems to passively be able to. Maybe I should start a high sec trolling account.

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Is solo piracy viable? Is it profitable?

So, lets say that I've found a reliable way to make 35-40% profit on a certain low volume item, by shipping it to jita from 10-20 jumps away.
A magnate can fit half a billion isk (in monetary value) of this item.
Is it safer for me to just stack it in a t1 industrial ship, or use a magnate with a fitting for ultimate tank+align time.
How big of a risk is it for me to ship around 600million isk back and forth all day?
It could prove to be very profitable since just one run is 200million in profit and would take 30-ish minutes
A t1 industrial could haul more stuff and has more tank, but is significantly slower. Im not sure how big of a deal ganking haulers in hisec is though.

>>174228195
The guy didn't kill him? or was it left long enough for it to be not suspect?

>>174228731
solo pvp is viable is you're very good at pvp. it is profitable if you fly particular things and are good

I'm not going to get into an autistic debate about what piracy is

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Redpill me on Nullsec. I'm being dragged out there by friends who are in TEST. What can I expect and what can I take advantage of to make this worth it? I've done Highsec lowsec and worm but never null.

>>174228731
>>174228801
This guy answered it mostly, but I would say that the profitability doesn't depend just on your ship choice, it also depends on target choice. You can extort retards in various types of space, and you can also kill 100 people a day and get almost nothing other than t2 mods.

>>174228945
nullsec is empty and populated only with afk ratters, afk miners, people who try to kill them and people who try to kill those people.

>>174228751
Just use a cloaked and nullified t3c.

I have 9 standing with caldary navy but still pay full broker and sales tax? I thought standing removes one of those?

>>174228945
>I'm being dragged out there by friends who are in TEST
don't

I'm going to download the game because its f2p so there's really no harm in a bit of datamining
Can i live my life as a comfy space miner?

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which one is it /dog/?

>>174229502
Define too late?

>>174229470
Yes and no
Just mining? Yeah
Mining and making enough to be omega? Lol no

>>174229470
not really, miners are 99% botters and 1% multiboxers.

How do I join Hard Knocks?

>>174229840
By being in PL

>>174229419
Do you have those skills that lower the taxes too?

>>174182704
My main is male and he has a harem of female alts

Does stuff reset after maintenance? Like wreckages and crap I have left in space? Do they disappear?

If I use a referral to make an account, does only the first character I make get the 250k skillpoints? I'm guessing thats the case.

>>174202267
>it made sense to me why alts are mandatory even if your toaster cant multibox a 15 year old game

Its surprisingly easy to multibox in this game if you turn down the graphics and memory intensive systems to their minimum performance. My computer is pretty fucking shit.
>Nvidia GTX 450
>8 Gigs or Ram
>Intel Core i5-2400 CPU @3.10 Ghz

I capped out at 13~ accounts and was bottlenecked by my CPU. Granted I tried playing EVE on my X220 Thinkpad and that didn't fly even on minimum settings with a single account.

>>174228787
He salvaged first, which doesn't cause aggression, then looted while aligned to a station, then waited out the suspect timer.

>>174229840
Gee I dunno have you tried applying?

Being in a wh corp that big would be garbage anyway. Nobody fights you voluntarily so you just end up blobbing caps or structures with sleipnirs.

Join a smaller corp where your input actually matters.

Is ninja salvaging still a viable-ish thing to do for fun\money?

I love the economy of this game

In fact, I love this game for it's economy

>>174229934
Technically I have slightly reduced broker tax from a skill, yeah. But I expected one of them to be at 0% in caldary navy stations because of my standing.

>>174215898
>I fly around in useless retarded space filled with autists that only care about combat/solo combat and which possesses little incentive for anyone to be there except people that want combat.
>why is my space so ded?

Gee timmy, I think its probably because your space is shit and PvPing for the sake of PvPing satisfies an extremely minor percentage of the population because its a massive waste of time and resources. Especially when everyone in lowsec is a PvP autist that almost certainly won't take a fight they could even possibly lose ever.

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>>174216149
FUCK YOU EVE IS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL

I WAS THERE!

>/v/ BROS

should I join this channel? who is there usually?

>>174216870
>Fucking what? There should be 30 to 100 people per system.

I'd also love not being able to do anything ever at any point.

>>174230654
me

>>174230026
Yes, wrecks and lootcans disappear.

>>174230101
It shows up in the item redemption queue as an item, and yes, can only be claimed by one character.

>>174230345
Really only for goading a mission-runner into a fight. Or if you mean in Low Sec, it depends on who's around I guess.

>>174230654
Me

>>174230654
Me

i hate dronelands, they have no loot and webbing frigs everywhere.

>>174230654
Me

Is it really too late to get into EVE? I mean, this shit is just massive and there's shitload of experienced players.
Also,
>Amarr or Caldar?

>>174232292
Doesn't matter as long as not nigger or frog.

>>174232441
>nigger
Nope
>frog
I don't even speak French

Are niggers a problem or something?

>>174224859
CVA is recruiting

>cva

>>174232483
The only good thing that mintamar did is that they somehow managed to make locomotive spaceflight ready.

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>>174232637

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>try to play other mmos
>all are shit
>eve is still the best and i'm forced to play it

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>EM
Blue, yeah, I can get it
>Thermal
Red, of course
>Explosive
Yellow, that sort of makes sense
>Kinetic
>fucking
>green
What the fuck were they smoking

>what are basic colors

>yellow

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>>174233987
>>174234116
You're both retarded.

>retarded

>all this hate on afk cloakers

Honestly, as a member of Brave's overenthusiastic, bloodthirsty defence force, I actually like it when there are goons/PL afk cloaked in one of our systems, because it probably means that more goons/PL are coming, and I like fighting them.

>it's totally something deep and not simply basic colors

>plays eve
>thinks anything is as simple as basic colors

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What do you think about the new suits?

>>174234761
I already have the SoE combat suit, don't need more than that

>>174234761
bred cool, might buy one if they don't get too expensive
but really though, all these shitty ship models and they have the art department work on fucking suits?
We don't even have CQ in citadels, who the fuck even sees suits, the 2000 jita faggots?

why is there no fantasy eve?

>>174235686
fantasy is gay and for plebs

>>174235824
you can have combat that isn't an absolute bore though

>xe thinks fantasy=dota

>>174235304
you can see suits in peoples pilot pics

>>174235893
you can have good combat in any setting though

>>174235893
>>174235686
>>174236094


You don't even need amazing combat. You just need a world where player actions have consequences and most of equipment/modules comes from player actions and not from shit like single-player instanced content and dungeons you can run with just any faceless group.

>>174235686
>orbit 6 feet
>spam spear attacks
wew it's like i'm really flying a mordus shits

>>174229140
But anon, T2 mods are expensive

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>tfw it will be literal months before I get to remap to int/mem to fix my inability to use E-War and other shit.

>falling for the remap meme

>check out my 1700 sp/hour

>caring about sp when injectors exist

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61619789/

>I'm poor and can't afford to inject the 79 skill injectors needed to advance a years worth of skill training at 2700 sp/hour at 300k sp an injector

>>174239935
>and then they got pipebombed

>>174239283
You realize the only passive shield hardeners worth using is the em ward and the thermal dissapation field right?

No one uses the kinetic or explosive variant

>>174240759
>you realize the only wards people use on these meme ships that are good right now are these two specific variants so you shouldn't train this skill that can be useful on all ships at some point in the future because its just a skill that universally increases the effectiveness of a module.
>You should only train skills that I think are useful right now for the ships that are currently useful right now because I said so.

No thanks I'd rather train skills I want.

How do i carrier rat, do i need heavy or only light fighta?

>>174241458
Heavy fighters are the old fighter bombers. You can't use them in a carrier.

Are carriers a meme? Currently getting off my ass in order to get minmatar battle cruiser 5 and I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to go for capitals or just stay in subcaps

>>174241918
Where do you live and what do you want to do?

If you can answer these 2 simple questions, the answer to your question should become apparent.

>>174241918
If you need to ask questions like these, you should just not even think about carriers

>>174242046
perrigen falls
Mine, rat, shoot at people that come into our constellation.

>>174242168
Who are you renting from, and how likely are they to shoot you for kicks?

>>174242168
Then get a cap, it's good at ratting.
If you want to shoot at randoms roaming your territory, you get a cerberus or orthrus, put in RLML and laugh.
Alternatively, get a lachesis, point faggots from 70km and let your fleetmates shoot them.

>>174237449
What kind of equipment would you have? Eve has all sorts of ship classes, fantasy is limited to a set of plate. Complicated magic research processes?

>>174242328
I'm not renting from anyone

>>174241110
It just tickles your autism when they're not all at the same level, doesn't it?

>>174243063
Yes.

can anybody post a screenshot of what the market looks like
i need this for research purposes

okay thank you

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>>174243252
Undercut people by .01 Isk

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>>174243252

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>>174244154

>>174241918
Carrier is best non-afk ratting in nulls.

Actually, two carrier is better.

>>174242952
>fantasy is limited to a set of plate

>fantasy weaponry and magic arsenals
>limited

How unimaginative are you?

>>174244559
My major problem is that fantasy typically doesn't work well with having a functioning economy. People expect magic items/equipment to never break and to be artifacts and shit. They expect you to delve into dungeons for sweet loot. Having a sandbox economy like EVE only works because shit gets destroyed, minerals get mined, and even elite warships are mass produced.

>mfw battleships run from our 20-man frigate/dessie roam

Why frigates and dessies? Because our hole from Catch to PL space only allowed ships with tiny mass.

>>174244559
Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean you can do anything, you're limited to a medieval setting. In eve we go frigate->cruiser->bs->carrier->titan, in a fantasy setting it's kinda hard to have such drastic size changes. Even if you make up flying castles and 20m giants for the appropriate categories, it's still stupid to make them fight each other and the random normal-sized knight the way cruisers fight frigates in eve.

And if you don't go for size increases, what is all the crap your economy producing going into? Hell, what are you building your economy with, what materials are there beside the ones gathered from travian-style farms and quarries?

>>174244734
>People expect magic items/equipment to never break and to be artifacts and shit.

You just have to make people be able to take rare artifacts from others.

>>174245254
>you're limited to a medieval setting.

No you're fucking not.

>>174245254
>Hell, what are you building your economy with, what materials are there beside the ones gathered from travian-style farms and quarries?

Magic items, you can literally come up with anything. Magic herbs, magic rocks, magic metals, magic animal parts, magic liquids, magic dildoes.

>>174245360
>You just have to make people be able to take rare artifacts from others.

That doesn't stimulate an economy, or at least not the type of economy that EVE has. Thinks like Diablo, Ultima, and Runescape have this type of mechanic and it doesn't create even close to the same type of economy that EVE has. Having an associated price for doing stuff is important. You need expenses for doing shit. In fantasy games there is rarely expenses related to doing content.

Maybe if you had some sort of system where mana is a tangible resource in the economy and magic items need to be recharged and repaired. Where you need potions and salves in order to clear content. And you need maps, and boats, and tents, and food and shit in order to explore to clear a dungeon.

You could do a fantasy version of eve.

>tfw all these market problems could be solved by letting ratters rat and fixing afk cloaky camping

>>174244734
In Eve people delve into space dungeons for sweet faction / deadspace loot.

What's the issue?

>>174246124
>faction/deadspace loot is the EVE economy

Faction loot is the meme lottery economy.

PvE is eve is shit, i'd be very happy if it was reworked into something more enjoyable\doable as standard dungeons (like 3-5ppl shit) but it won't happen, why?

>2017
>things changed in missions since release: agent quality, lvl5, burners
>other pve stuff unless i forgot and not counting WH: Incursions, reworked exploration?

Not happening. Also standard heal+tank+2dps strat won't do it in eve because you actually have to go out of your way to learn logi.

>>174245360
for someone interested in a fantasy eve you don't seem at all interested in thinking/describing the fantasy setting

Fine, I'll start. There's a serial I'm reading about bioweapons. So you have a setting where biology is far more advanced than other sciences, and everything down to the light bulbs is done by life forms designed in a lab.

The most common war instrument is an animated robotic corpse. Custom war beasts are grown from scratch and come in many sizes. The biological aspect solves >>174245908 's problem of items not breaking - the items are constantly being killed off.

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>>174246440
>PvE is eve is shit, i'd be very happy if it was reworked into something more enjoyable\doable as standard dungeons (like 3-5ppl shit) but it won't happen, why?

FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF.

Fuck off.

Fuck off.

EVE's only merit is that for the most part its designed as a simulated universe, not as a game, fuck design that makes it function as a game. I'd rather have EVE be the least FUN game in existence and retain its state as a simulated universe than become compromised and retarded.

Fuck off and stop ruining EVE, It doesn't need more players 10,000 autists is plenty and more enjoyable than 300,000 normie retards wanting to play a game. EVE is not a game.

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>>174230654
join /eog/ BROS

>>174244154
>>174244327
thanks fampai

>try to explore stain
>so many competing explorers at all hours its worthless

i just want to make that mad relic site money

>>174247040
> I'd rather have EVE be the least FUN game in existence and retain its state as a simulated universe than become compromised and retarded.

Why do you need to pay sub for eve if you can just buy ELITE:DANGEREOUS LEVELS OF NO-GAMEPLAY then

>>174247812
just blow up the other explorers

>>174248029
>catching covops when they bail the second someone pops up in local
>catching covops that fit 4+ warp core stabs
>catching covops that call their corp buddies to gate camp when they spot you in local


funny joke

>>174247860
is it that bad? I had it in mind as a background option if I get sick of eve's skill queue watching

>>174248296
Then just engage on people on shitty ships you ape, there's plenty of alphas doing explo in t1 frigs

>elite dangerous
>mmo

>>174228751
you're fine as long as you don't afk on gates/stations, just fit inertia stabs in the lows and warp instantly
assuming you're just in highsec

>>174248296
>catching covops that call their corp buddies to gate camp
what kind of fucking beta cuck do you have to be to gatecamp while a spineless faggot gets rich off your time?

>>174248296
If they run away from you, just do their sites m8.

>>174249370
try solo roaming for a while and you'll see how many beta cucks play this shitty game

>>174250161
i spent the weekend solo roaming in batlecruisers

came across
6 gate camps
2 cyno baits
2 ratting domis that jammed me with drones and mjd to get away
1 epithal doing PI
1 afk ratting vni
1 retard tristan that tried to scram me (ate a faceful of blasters)

shit's fucked

>>174248341
It has an amazing atmophere and feeling of the ship - first, like several hours are really amazing. Trying to scoop loot, contrabanding shit in stealth mode, trying to find where is docking hole in cube, warp drive - all feels great. But then you realise that these's not much to do and the only real way to make money is to trade shit. So unless you like space euro truck simulatior...i'd say i got my 60$ worth on the atmosphere alone, but i wouldn't spend much time in this game after that.

I'm never sure what to do with the information that all the ships I've built might be out there somewhere, engaged in a fight or just rusting away in a hangar or who knows what.
It's kind of nice to think about, though.

Anyone here do incursions? I've played this game for a long ass time on and off and I've never dipped into pve much but I've recently learned that incursions are pretty good for keeping sec status up and a steady income of isk. Is this true or just a meme? The Nightmare looks awesome so I'm currently skilling up a sniper fit that I can bring on fleets.

>>174253969
How is your tolerance for concentrated verbal autism?

>>174250513
I don't solo roam in big shit anymore. My ship of choice is the slicer and I just destroy smaller targets. Bigger ones can't catch me, most gate camps can't catch me, just focus on being an all around nuisance bothering ratters and miners until ships you can engage arrive. Kill drones, kill cynos, kill cans, etc.

>>174253969
I dislike incursions because they're very intensive. Stuff gets killed fast so you're always clicking, either to lock new targets or to select a new thing to shoot at. When I'm doing missions I can do it semi-afk

>>174254060
I made my own spreadsheet for FW prices and play dominions 4 with the /vg/ group. So pretty high.

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>hop into a hole on a whim while redoing the sisters arc in an astero
>get my first kill on another pilot

>>174254202
i'm kinda learning this the hardway
pretty much the only way i can solo roam anymore is by doing cloaky shit or kitey nano shit

which is okay, but gets boring real fast
it's lame just killing idiots who land on grid and do nothing but right click and approach you

>>174254320
I figured your written tolerance would be good, but the comms in incursions is pure aids.

>Don't like the corp I joined
>Go roam solo for half a year while in the corp so it doesn't look like I quit corps instantly after joining them

oh fugg

>>174254591
I thought its just the FC talking and everyone else shutting up.

>>174255274
Oh, my sweet summer child...

>>174255221
How do you find a good corporation anyhow? Forums, ingame ads?

>c02

organic

Who are The Culture? I've been out for a few years and don't recognize the name.

>>174257125
Used to be about half of black legion, iirc.

Faggot CEO changed taxes

>Tax rate
>60%

Should I find out where he lives so I can bitchslap that greedy jew, before leaving the corp?

>>174258803
Bring ruin to him

>>174258803
what corp, name it

>>174258803
awox the cunt

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>solo pvp

>>174259718
Its a smallish corp in querious with a ceo that has a boner for nazis, nietzche and harabme. Entry level memes if I'm honest.
Its the first corp ive joined when I started playing about a month ago and its been progressing into the shitter as time goes on.
I feel like I need to find a better begginer-friendly corp
But the blobs that people mention here are very unappealing to me
>PL
>Goons

And how autistic is the /v/ BROS channel?

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>>174260687
>mfw dying to retards

>>174261328
very

>PL
you're not getting in without a vouch
>Goons
honestly, it's not as bad people make it out to be
goons are very much a dead end alliance though, once you're in, you're gonna have a hard time getting into any other nullsec alliance

they have lenient activity requirements and most of the time you'll be shooting the shit in standing fleet comms/fleet ratting up a storm for hours

but yeah, the big name null alliances are always blob fests, it's how things go. people are more inclined to group up, the whole safety in numbers thing, and getting easy kills is always comforting.

>>174261531
Think Goons need industry guys? I wanna build ships.

>>174261682
Sure

>scan down a faglord running a mission
>have his signature at 100%
>warp to him
>don't actually warp to him, have to go through gates
>locked

how am I supposed to ninja salvage then

also, why are shitters leaving their drones behind all over the place

>>174261682
It's what I do for them.

>>174152239
the only decent alpha income is exploration or salvaging in blue sovnull space.

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>tfw you fell for the salvage meme

How does tax work when it comes to manufacturing in a citadel?

>>174263690
are you saying it's a good meme

>>174264020

Its really dependent, Sansha space has the best relic sites and my alliance has a web app that lets explorers label cosmic sigs and tells me the last time one of our explorers was in a system.

3.5 bill in a little more than half a month is pretty good money for a new character

>>174255865
friends > corps you know > r/evejobs > official forums > ingame recruitment channel > ingame ads

if you're looking for a corp that lives in a specific region dotlan and zkillboard aren't bad either

>>174265206
Thanks babe, I suppose I'll try evejobs then.

>>174167991

Join Brave newbies.

>Join Brave newbies.

>>174269668
t. Doomchinchilla

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>get into wormholes they said
>It'll be great they said

>>174270816
Use siggy like an actual human being you degenerate.

>>174271689
what does siggy offer?

>>174270370
>giving attention to unironic asian meme jews

>>174272420
Stuff.

>>174272420
Free intel to whoever runs it.

A few years ago PLEX used to cost 500m, now they're closer to 1.2b. Thats over double cost. What has caused this? I have a feeling its to do with alpha clones, skill injectors and extractors but I can't put my finger on it.

>>174263961
Product EV * System Index = NPC tax
Product EV * System Index * Citadel tax = Player tax

You pay NPC tax + Player tax. Basically if the tax rate is under 10% you won't ever notice it.

Tempest

>>174273246
None of those have anything to do with it. The price was higher before we got them.

Incursions, on the other hand, gave a massive boost to highsec isk generation. And that's about the time the price started going up.

oneiros

>>174273397
Incursions need a major nerf desu. I stopped training my main for a month to train an incursion alt, shelled out 200m for a battleship, and now I can make 100-120m an hour for almost no effort and almost no risk.

>>174273257
Nice, thanks. I was worried it gets added to the cost index.

>>174273925
Nope. Works the same way in NPC stations too, but there's not much reason to build in those any more.

>>174273708
Incursions need to make the constellation they take place in temporarily nullsec until the incursion is cleared.

>>174274794
And the boss of the final site needs to not be scannable, like all other pve. I'd take a dump on profit after that site has spawned, too

>>174274794
>>174274989
Even simpler.

All other sites despawn once the mothership is up, and don't come back.

>>174274794
>Incursions need to make the constellation they take place in temporarily nullsec
This I don't like.

>have HS base somewhere
>log in one day, it's an incursion zone
>can't play for a week

>making a low-level hauler run in a T1 industrial
>forget to check active incursions
>gate is bubblefucked

>/comfy/ mining in an exhumer
>suddenly incursion
>lose 200m

>set up azbel in HS for added protection
>incursion overlaps with vulnerability timer
>fuck

You're completely screwing over anybody who does anything in highsec besides run incursions. Dropping sec status by .1 or .2 might be reasonable, to push systems that were already .5 or .6 into lowsec territory for a few days.

>>174275606
Still need unscannable bosses so it's not just free revenants for russians

>>174276108
The BPPC only drops in lowsec, so who even cares.