/twg/ - Total War General

Lizards are gay and I will eliminate every one of them as well as their toad-like deities.

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AND I THINK TO MYSELF...

Their gods are gone.

>>174388578
They can't be gay, they don't even have willies.

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>>174388229
OLD FRIEND WHEN?!

>>174388583
waaaaaaaaaaagh a wonderful hurl!

>>174388738
Turdsday by the Grace of our lady!

No TW2 news ever

Why did they even announce it yet

>>174388959
EGX paid them to show up and show off something exciting

>>174388229
>no edition
>image that gets used all the time
>fucked up youtube link again
kill yourself and never make an OP ever again

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>Demand: go to war with Chaos who is currently fucking the both of us
>Their counter offer: give us 1500 gold and go to war with the dwarfs for no reason
Did the AI just tell me to fuck off?

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ITT: "Villains" who did nothing wrong

>>174389142
>edition
>>>/ksg/

Why do units move around so herky-jerky in Attila?

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Goblin Dabbing

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Rock the boat!

>>174389353
Historical accuracy

>>174389323
Archaon
Grimgor
Mannfred

>>174389534
That's a big landboat.

>>174389142
jesus christ some of you /vg/ faggots are insufferable
i bet people leave the room when you walk in huh weirdo?

>>174389987
Wanting thread OPs to be halfway decent is insufferable? Neck yourself, nigger.

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G O B L I N S

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>>174389323
>damned his entire country to undeath
>did nothing wrong

>>174389987
Getting upset and crying just because someone chastised you for putting zero effort into a menial task is pretty sad.

>>174389339
editions are fun, anon

>>174390321
>Was the sole hope of defeating chaos

Thats correct

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reminder that you will never make a spear wall round teclis like in the warhammer 2 trailer because they gutted those unit abilities for no fucking reason.

>>174390627
What is this legend of zelda shit

>original trailer for Warhammer is actually narrated by the wizard as he's losing his mind to Chaos
>ingame cinematic and he's replaced by some old lady narrator
Why fix what wasn't broken

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>174390627
maybe that's a hint that it's going to be in TWWH2

>>174390627
We have no idea what Warhammer 2 is going to be like, anon. Given how things have progressed over Warhammer 1's lifespan (fanatics becoming manual, Bretonnia roster abilities, etc), I'm tempted to predict we'll see some more classic abilities for units in the next game.

>>174390913
I also dislike that the ingame Brettonia intro is narrated by that Tzeentiach fuck rather than Alberic like it was in the original trailer.

>>174390986
>I'm tempted to predict we'll see some more classic abilities for units in the next game.
but then the old world needs them too. If elves can do spearwalls there's no reason why empire & wood elves can't as well.

Also need shield walls for dwarf & chaos units.

The first I fought wood elves my chaos chosen got absolutely decimated because all they could do is stand there and take missile fire whilst never being able to catch any unit.

There no reason elite warriors wouldn't make a shield wall in that situation to become literally immobile but missile proof.

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> Start up Fall of the Samurai again
> Realize I've completely the game as every Shogunate faction
> Even though is shames my honor as a humble servant of the Tokugawa, I choose Choshu
> Wow this +3 charge is really fun
> Can't shake the terrible feeling of murdering loyal servants of the Shogun, who gave of 200 years of magnanimous peace
> Only reason I don't immediately go to the clan panel and change allegiances is because I know the campaign will be a cake walk then

God damnit guys why is Fall of the Samurai so good.

>when people say Gelt isn't a good LL because they're shit at using magic.

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>>174390913
Release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAyJ_V6mDfk
Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI

>>174391048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKwseDlnLM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60WQUG3XW3M
What manner of madness leads men to such decisions, you think?

>>174391854
>When a combat LL can easily kill hundreds of enemies per battle with a right-click
>When AOE damage spells don't do damage

Why is the skellington warrior march animation in Warhammer so retarded?

>>174392094
the vampire lords are mocking living formation marches

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>>174392018
but they DO deal damage

>>174392094
You bite your tongue.

>>174392094
It's a reference to stop-motion skeletons in old movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_Fi7x93PY

>>174391854
+1
http://vocaroo.com/i/s001kA0qqVCz

>>174391738
>The more you modernize, the more somber and depressing the music becomes

It really is the best game of the franchise.

>>174392184
>>174392317
I'm not sure. Are you guys sure CA just didn't fuck up on the animation for those guys? I mean, even if they didn't, why make them look goofily retarded for a gag?

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Playing Bretonnia for the first time here. I finally united the entire kingdom under Fay Enchantress and the fully confederated Wood Elves declared war on me. I'm managed to fight them off back to their territory but their garrisons are all Xbox tier hueg. How do I burn these little shits?

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>>174391738
The gameplay feels super satisfying. Shogun 2 in general worked very well in letting you bring huge armies to bear. The standard unit in FOTS was 200 men.

>>174390321
>where all his country man gained immortality that allows them to do whatever the fuck they want since they get infinite life cheat code.

Nagash is truly the second coming of settra.

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>>174392317
>fucking skeleton has a wilhelm scream

>>174392094
Danse Macabre

It's supposed to be a parody, a dark jest at the forces of the living.

>>174392414
It's very intentional - it's a new column in the battle entities table for synced locomotion.

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>>174392414
Because skelememes are goofy.
t. /ss13g/

>>174392475
The plebs are forever tortured, but the masters could've had so much more because they had the power to wait for lifeful immortality in their embalming preservation things.

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>>174391738
Choshu is a pretty fun clan in general. It's basically a roaring rampage down Honshu to the capital killing everything in your way, and all your units have a charge buff, the ishin shishi further buffs the charge of all units in the army it's attached to, and there's a buddhist temple pretty close to you, so when it's all combined Choshu can easily have the highest charge of any clan in the game. Even basic levy infantry can shatter any enemy on the charge.

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>>174392397
PATRIARCH

AND EMPEROR

>>174392786
>gets fired for heresy in the end time
>regain the power of metal only to get back stabbed

>>174392094
>the only unit disciplined enough to march in step is dead
really makes you think

>>174390627

>he actually liked microing formations

pause babby

>>174393002
>End Times lore
That really marshaled my men

>>174392228

>hey guise remember that time i abused shitty AI to clump them all in a siege and use a vortex, haha man these spells are the bomb!

>>174392786
>wants to get on todbringer's good side
>gives him gift each turn
> -20 in diplomatic relation in my face

why are my Ulric worshiping northern brother hates me?

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Nippon going to be in the nest game! I found some leaked screenshots of their units.

what form of land change mechanics are there going to be in warham zwei?

Are vampires and chaos a thing in Lustria?

>>174392475
They were on their way to immortality of the still being fleshy variety though

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>>174393216
Woah

>>174393446
were they? who had the abilities to do that though? other than nagash's immortal dead spell?

>>174393268
>be playing first Empire campaign
>play quest battle where Middenheim are apparently funding Empire ISIS to fight me
>I'LL SHOW THOSE FUCKERS
>declare war next turn
>manage to beat their shit in by a tiny margin
>Nordland hates me and declares war on me
>don't even get to claim Middenheim because those Hochland fucker declared War and sieged it as soon as I kicked Todbringers shit in.
>Then get quest to be friends with Nordland for Runefang
I should really do this on more empire campaigns, but once you know how rich Marienburg is it's hard not to rush for it.

>>174393268
Still salty that they lost in the era of three emperors

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>>174393002
Too right Anon, Gelt's probably a foul grobi too!

>the amount of fucking chaos pouring out of the north right now
AND THERE'S A MOD TO MAKE THIS EVEN WORSE?

>>174393675
>not wanting to confederate middenland and gets boris as playable lord

they may be dicks, but it is pretty swell having boris on my side. Dat melee expert traits though. Hopefully CA can make boris a legendary lord and gave him some good purple equip quest battle.

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HOO
HAA
HOO
HAA

I miss the IF OUR LORD IS TO BECOME KING guy

>>174393216
>balancing shit in a TW game for something other than an AI opponent
But literally 80% of the playerbase are just playing vs. AI in campaigns.

>>174390627
>>174390982
Its going to be in TWWH2, as a special bonus of the High Elves to simulate their dense formation rules in tabletop.

Things like wedge formation and shieldwall will disappear to re-appear as "special" racial abilities. Only bretonnians know the forbidden jutsu of the wedge, and only the high elves have mastered the unholy art of the shieldwall.

Look forward to it

>>174393619
Nagash based his spell off of the one being worked on by their priests who were already immortal thanks to the Khemirian gods.

He pretty much threw a bitch fit because their king Alcadizaar curb stomped him.

>>174394041
I don't actually mind wedge formation being restricted to the Brettonians, given that in the tabletop they uniquely got access to the Lance Formation special rule.

Besides, Wedge in previous TW games was almost completely useless. I can't think of any situation in any of them where I'd actually choose Wedge over a standard formation. Shieldwall, though, was situationally useful in prior TW games.

>>174394325
better play high elves for that comfy +1 rank of attacks bonus, anon

>>174394325
all you did was engage the frontline then activate it for the free buffs in mid combat, just like phalanx

I don't miss it in this game, bracing or countercharging is enough based on the scenario/unit

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>>174393975
This "Karl Franz" better be worth it!

>>174393901
Fixed Norsca Economy + Bigger Badder Chaos is a good mix
No more Surtha Ek destroyer of worlds
Much more Archaon destroyer of worlds

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>>174395339
SATISFY THE GRUDGE

>>174394592
>i used formations in a way that wasnt intended so everyone else must have too

>>174393092
>pause babby
is this a meme?

Are you actually saying they should gut integral mechanics to the total war series because you don't like pausing mid battle?

enjoying micro=/=wanting combat that is actually realistic

>>174395415
>norse pirate not raiding shit
>all these modding shit

you guys are pleb, faithless to the world of warhammer fantasy.

*spams peasant mobs for 72 turns and gets eaten by Mousillon*
Rejoice! For a knight of Bretonnia is your shield!

>>174395579

Both the Norscan factions are always t1 powers, more powerful than actual empires

>>174395687
For the Lady!

>>174395491
only time formations were worth a damn was the square which was necessary

the rest have either been free stats buttons, worthless piss, or yari wall which gg'ed S2 campaigns

In Warhammer there are other things to micro and I'd rather micro abilities and spells than formations. I shoudn't have to tell my stationary ironbreakers to stand still effectively

>>174394041
>but still no dwarf shieldwall
this would fucking suck.

>>174395762
>living in the barren wasteland that is norsca
>not become strong after years of harsh upbringing under the harshest winter and chaos influence

Norse pirate are suppose to hard to beat like that. Besides, their infantry is nearly the same stats as the empire swordsman and most of their army can be countered by a good empire army composition, which is one thing the empire is good at, creating counter army.

>>174395864
>I shoudn't have to tell my stationary ironbreakers to stand still effectively
what the fuck does this even mean?

Are you saying you don't want to have a press a button before leaving them in guard mode?

yari wall was great and spearmen in warhammer should be able to make spear walls. It's not like it'd be hard to fuck them over with all the unit diversity warhammer has.

>>174396270
What the fuck do they even eat
I assume there are actually norscan farmers or something up there who are never touched on in the lore

>>174396453
yari wall turned the cheapest units into the most deadly unit on the field and you could spaghetti line it meaning you cover a lot with a dirt cheap unit that can beat back any samarus and the spaghetti cuts on archer casualties, fundamentally stupid and broken.

And no ironbreakers don't need a "be fucking ironbreakers" button. The shield missile block and the charge resist against all, and the blast packs are all good when braced. I don't need a button for wanting them to brace they are designed, recruited, and implemented for that very fucking purpose, why does that need an input? Its better game design.

Thats not tactics, thats not strategy, its clicking a button. Should there be a "swing weapon" button that i have to mash to make them do such basic commands?

>>174396590
>What the fuck do they even eat
On the coast you can go out fishing, pull in some big whales and such
Inland you can eat Chaos failed monstrosities

>>174396590
the norse tribes survive by:
1. commit cannibalism on their tribes people
2. pray for nurgle (for not feeling hunger) or slaanesh (for fabulous, tasty food) to give them food
3. raiding. The only, most profit way to get some high quality shit.
4. eat wild life found in norsca like trolls, wolfs even their own horse, whom they used in battles as well
5. actually good scavenger and survivalist that can find even the smallest hint of vegetation and animals in the ever winter land
6. fishing. Norsca is surrendered by water so ice fishing might be yummy. Though it is not sure whether the fish were mutated by chaos already, there might be some kind of monster serpent or giant kraken living under the norsca sea.

Still, Norsca is pretty shitty place, worst than Kislev. The fact the norse tribe is able to survive has proven that they are hardcore motherfucker.

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BEWARE OF KARL AND HS OVER 9000 FLAGELLANT CHAOS FUCKER!!!

the real question is how do dwarfs survive? agriculture is sure to be non-existent

>>174395339
>>174395469
NO YOU VERMIN STOP INFECTING OUR THREADS

>>174389515
>>174390248
>>174390930

autism

>>174397479
>farm and goat farm in the dwarf settlement building tree
>how do they survive, geez.

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>>174397479
they have lil bitch human townships farming for em

>>174397103
>i'm fucking retarded, the post
shitters exploiting spaghetti lines isn't a reason for cutting out whole features, is it?

If you don't like abusing retarded spaghetti line yari wall formations in shogun 2 you could just not abuse yari wall spaghetti lines in your campaign?

Why do people make retarded arguments about how something is so exploitable in a single player game and it ruins their experience? If it's ruining your experience don't fucking use it, simple.

>I don't need a button for wanting them to brace they are designed, recruited, and implemented for that very fucking purpose, why does that need an input? Its better game design.
bracing=/=shieldwall

Yeah, you said it yourself, Ironbreakers are elite units who know how to hold the line. Them not being able to shield wall to block missile fire and hold down a strategic point like a gate because you don't want to click a button is fucking retarded.

It's not a "be fucking ironbreakers" button. It's a "sacrifice ranged attacks and being able to kill shit to block this pass" button, and it's something the ultimate anvil unit should be able to decide to do.

If you don't want to use formation you could just not fucking use them, as it stands it's stupid that they're missing and the most elite troops in warhammer can't do the most basic strategic shit, even though it says they do it all the time in the lore.

>>174392401
>The more you modernize, the more somber and depressing the music becomes
Wait, what? Prove it!

>>174397479
Plump helmets.

>>174397479
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2681639/Mines-pint-Full-vitamins-high-fibre-low-sugar-good-hair-benefits-beer.html

>>174397506
Oh yeah?! Well you're ugly!

Bretonnia trailer > all other trailers

>>174398293
The lower the modernization level you're at, the more it uses traditional music, even songs from Shogun 2.

As you increase in modernization, it phases the traditional and generally upbeat songs out, for slower, sadder tracks. Give it a go and listen, you'll notice overtime, till the point where you get to modernization 3 I think it is, and it doesn't use any of the old music anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtrg-FlXoI

>>174391738
The peace wasn't that great. Tokugawa and their damn Confucian beliefs about trying to keep things from changing hurt the samurai in the long run.

>>174397226

Its not an issue that they are surviving
its that they are more numerous than fucking empire

>>174400630
yet another reason why m2 recruitment limits were a good idea

>>174400630
well, norse like real life viking likes to fuck, and when human is under constant stress of dying, they would fuck as much as possible, hence that's why the norse out number the empire.

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Haters are gonna hate, but battles like these are so much fun

>>174396590
There are norscan farmers actually, there's sort of a class/tribes of norscans who live in small settlements and farm and such, and supply the raiding norscans.

In that respect, norsca is not well represented in the game because it's shown like entirely frozen and ice, when really the whole southern coast of norsca should be cold and bleak but not totally frozen so that people can live and farm.

>>174400630
Yes that's an obvious problem. It would have made more sense if CA did it that norscan invasions were an interval thing, like they happened every 20-40 turns or so for awhile then stopped till the next one. Much more sensible than a full military ongoing threat.

Like the norscans are a constant threat in the north, but really just as small raids (vikings) on coastal settlements. Then maybe every 10 years or so they do a decent sized invasion.

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>>174405410
The Empire endures!

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>>174405410

fight scene

>The AI never follows your war coordination targets, opting to sit in one spot for 100+ turns
>Chaos spawns, it's five stacks of chariots, hellcannons spam, lose all interest in the campaign
>Bretonnia has around 10 armies, all around 5-8 unit's, 4 of which are usually peasant mobs
>AI who have been allies for ages randomly declare war on your allies

Sigh.

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Is it a good to mix units together when there is a possibility of anti-infantry charging in?

>>174404794
The ability to produce food still serves as a greatest population limiter. But warhammer never gave a shit about logistics so whatever, there's as many Norscans as plot requires.

>>174405631

>ever

Or you could just read it like an Italian/Tilean

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I had to defeat this "army" 9 fucking times in order to finally destroy it. Across 3 provinces and 4 turns. Why does this happen??

>>174399630
they're all so unremarkable that i don't remember any of them

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>grassland

>>174405921
Giant land, desert land, and pipe land where?

>>174393420
wow!

>>174405686
still, the norse has the chaos gods on their side, as long as they can offer up treasures or humans as sacrifice.

>>174405802
There's something goofy about if you kill the lord it gets counted as new army with 2 chances again

>>174397465

>"I-IF YOU DON'T WATCH OUT I'LL TELL MY DAD ON YOU!"

lyl

What a cuck

>>174405410
>radious

>>174405802
the same happen to me, he got a new lord every defeat and I had to fight him for 3 turns to finally destroy the faction

>>174405802
>>174407030
If you kill the lord twice in one turn the AI doesn't have a chance to replace it. You're just not killing them fast enough.

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>>174405686
Here's the thing: The Norscans aren't the mainstay of the chaos armies, despite what happens in-game. They're not even all chaos worshippers.

The bulk of the chaos armies come from the Chaos Wastes, which you might argue is worse in terms of supporting populations, but the Chaos Wastes aren't the size shown on the map. The polar gate warps the wastes to an almost infinite size.
So the hordes pouring out of the north aren't living densely packed on the steppes, they're basically invading out of an alternate dimension.

>>174408194

That's what I thought... Until I did just that. I even killed the army 3 times in a row in 1 turn.

>>174408297
There are also Kurgans, who are the most numerous Chaos-aligned humans living in not-siberia.

>>174408297

I don't think there are any actual communities in the Chaos Wastes, it doesn't really produce any people as such.

The warriors of Chaos are pulled from all the Chaos aligned tribes of the world, the biggest of which being the Kurgan, the Hung and the Norsca

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>>174408872
There's plenty of 'people'.
The border between the real world, the chaos wastes (an interstitial area) and the Realm of Chaos is fuzzy. The tribes of the north live in both the steppe and the chaos wastes.

>looking for mods to try and spice up fots on the workshop
>one of the first results buffs tosa riflemen

wew

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>>174408297
It tends to vary in terms of precisely how Chaotic the Norscans are. Depending on the book you're reading they're either the bitch-boys of Chaos that are just as likely to worship Ulric as they are Khorne, or they're precisely the same genocidal madmen as the Hung or the Kurgan but with a Viking flavor.

Morkar the Uniter, the first Everchosen, was a Norscan.

>>174408439
cute

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>>174411037
>the Hung
I don't think I'll ever not laugh at this.

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Why does he love spiders so much

>>174411904

Because he's fucked in the head. Whenever I see AI controlled Azhag, he always has the most messed up army compositions.

>>174411341
They're pretty much irrelevant in the fluff too, given that they spend most of their time fighting Cathay with the Dark Elves on the side.

>>174411904

Are you using an ai army composition mod?

I never see the greenskins with late-game army comps like this.

>>174412097
Not using any AI force composition mods, but using 10slot capitals and T4 minors which does a great job of giving the AI a better chance to build high tier units.

>>174411904

Thats one frustrating lookin army

>>174412353

Yeah, I imagine that might fix it, the AI is terrible at building so more slots likely help a lot.

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>>174411904
>azhag
>still got one gobbo archer, albeit night variant

By the way has anyone recently gotten the rebuild eight peaks cheevo recently?
It wasn't functional at least for primary faction stunties after the two warlords patch.

Haven't tried since.

Are dwarfs a self-projection of autistic writers? They have all the traits of autism and they treat humans as neurotypicals.

>>174390627
>demygriph knights charge in
>pshh, noting personel, elf

>>174391729
Only High Elves could fight one extra rank deep due to muh discipline, everyone else gets nothing

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>>174412058
>Hung
>Ungols
>Hobgoblins
>Ogres

We need MORE MONGOLS.

>>174412000
>nagash whisper: BUY HIGH TIER MONSTER UNIT~~~~
>Azhag: Shud'up magik hat, I want more orc boyz first!
>nagash whisper: BUY GIANT SPIDER~~~ KILL ENEMIES FASTER
>Azhag: Shud'up magik hat! then I'll have it all target da enemy boss!

>>174412683

>neurotypicals.

Whatever happened to "Normal"?

Normal is a nice word, why does no one use it anymore?

I mean, people still use "Normative" which means the exact same thing but is a much less nice word.

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>>174412683
Nope, their self inserts are high elves.

whens the stupid ass dlc fuck going on sale goddamn

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>>174412848

TODAY IS THE DAY

TODAY IS THE DAY

TODAY IS THE DAY

>>174413028
During but not before or after it does

>>174413086
It's been 5 fucking months since I gave them any shekels what the fuck is CA doing

>>174413028
Last month.

>>174412593
I recall it being mentioned in the patch notes at some point recently, don't know if it actually got fixed though.

>>174412921
>no blood

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NAGASH WAS WEAK

>>174413164
The old friend is FLC

Its probably just Todd

Never played WHFantasy, how will be the high and dark pointy ears gameplay anyway?

The thing that caught my interest is Lizardmen.

>>174413236
>its literally better to pick Grombrindal, then get rid of him for a generic runelord as the optimal dwarf strat
Silly CA. Cant into balancing buffs.

>>174413236
Hello roll chart, I'd like to play as Wood Elves or Bretonnia, thanks.

>>174413283
Lizards are slow as fucking shit, dont have very good range, but have the best magic and the toughest troops around. Basically their army is a giant wall that if it collides with anything it kills it.

High Elves are white glass cannons with lots of flying faggotry

Dark Elves are dark glass cannons with cavalry/backstabbing/hydra faggotry

Skaven are the best swarm race, and also have the best arty and pretty good range. So they will undeniably be OP as fuck.

>>174413118
>>174413182
thx. fuckunts

>>174413236
I don't have half of these with the base game, what do?

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>>174413335

>>174413397
I guess I should paint my skavens LUL

>>174413302

What are you on about? Grombrindal's blue tree is massively fucking broken, not leveling him quick is a waste.

>>174413335
Now you get to kill both!

>>174413590
>(Factionwide)

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>some wine, a good woman and regular neigbours, that's all I wanted
Western Roman Empire soldiers had hard lives ;_;7

>>174413664

If you get rid of him right off the bat you'll never get those bonuses because he isn't leveled.

And do they even apply when he isn't on the map at all?

>>174413302
I swear /twg/ is worse than /d2g/ when it comes to retarded meta strats. This is right up there with "Delete your starting giant as wurrzag for 7 FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE savage orcs."

>>174413793
There's a Diablo 2 general??

>>174413789
I do enjoy it when people make up strawmen to save face like
>If you get rid of him right off the bat
But honestly you should consider just admitting you were wrong

>>174413793
Except its not, hes a shit lord period in comparison to a runelord, as are all the other dwarf lords. Once you have his blues you can ignore him entirely and start using a runelord which have insane buffs none of the major lords can compete with.

>>174413883
>Grombrindal
>Weak

What is Flashbang?

What's one of the best duelers of the entire game?
What does it feel to be a dumb idiot pathetic piece of shit retard?

>>174413883
>Except its not, hes a shit lord period in comparison to a runelord, as are all the other dwarf lords.

In MP? Yes. In SP? No, Grombrindal deletes Sigvald 1v1 and literally his only downsides are his items, one of which is absolute garbage.

>>174413302
>Requiring OPTIMAL strategies when playing as Dwarfs

Sad, pathetic and disgusting

>>174413993
>What is Flashbang?
A literal one use ability that isnt that good at all in comparison to

>8% AP
>100% CR + Psy resist
>+60 armor
>44% Phy Resis
>M. Rune of Wrath

You take a balanced army of dwarfs with a RL v the same army but with Grombindal and the RL will win 100% of the time no matter what.

>>174413994
>MP
Stopped reading. No one cares.

>>174413883

>I do enjoy it when people make up strawmen to save face like

Actually the misunderstanding comes from reading "strat" as "start"

It also doesn't help that you're massively exaggerating to the point of basically just being wrong.

>hes a shit lord period in comparison to a runelord

I mean come the fuck on.

>>174414049
>He cant theorycraft or enjoy triggering idiots who cant comprehend why the way you play is better than theirs
I almost pity you

>>174414089
>>hes a shit lord period in comparison to a runelord
>I mean come the fuck on.
Thats not an exaggeration at all. You can literally go test this all right now. Go try a RL army against another army then a Grom army against the same enemy. The RL army will do better and you know it.

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>>174414067
>Stopped reading. No one cares.

If you don't want good advice in MP that's fine, but you should at least accept the SP advice so you can stop doing silly mistakes.

Not that anyone can fuck up with dorfs.

>>174414202
But your advice is wrong and pointless. It literally doesnt matter if he can 1v1 a lord, this isnt custom battles.

>disbanding the coolest LL in the dwarf roster just to powergame harder
waow

>>174414339
in the game*
ftfy

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>>174414240
>But your advice is wrong and pointless.

My advice doesn't pointlessly gimp one of the most OP LLs in the game, which is why I advocate it.

>It literally doesnt matter if he can 1v1 a lord

Well the good news is the majority of your points go down the red line, so you infantry effortlessly beats theirs too.

How many Legendary campaigns have you beaten? Out of curiosity :^)

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>>174414410
>My advice doesn't pointlessly gimp one of the most OP LLs in the game
*in your pointless situation where they 1v1 rather than army v army

Well done, literally irrelevant.

>How many Legendary campaigns
Literally every single major race, you shitposting ill informed twat. Last reply for you.

>>174414339
>getting upset you got btfo
Thats just sad.

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>>174414556
>*in your pointless situation where they 1v1 rather than army v army

In a 4v2 situation :^)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/107809430

Not even me. I'm better.

Greats on your first L campaign last month btw. Hope you're enjoying it. Remember that there's always room for improvement!

>>174414631
Just a side punter here mate, steady on.

>>174414191
>Can't theorycraft
>Implying anyone needs theorycrafting when playing as Dwarfs

I definitely pity you

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>someone makes a claim
>people just post what they think rather than testing it
I dont understand why /twg/ does this, every day we get like 10 posts about what people think and they never bother to test it themselves like yesterday people were claiming you cant block arrows if you dont have shields equipped which went on for a bunch of posts when it could have been proved false in one. I mean not to be supporting a shitposter but hes right you know. Except for the fact you could just get a rune smith instead of a rune lord in a grom army. Albeit he would be 50% weaker.

>>174414737
Ill remember that next time someone posts
>whats a good army comp

>>174414689
not him but he absolutely would have done better with a runelord

>>174412848

Because normal also applies to behavior and not neurological wiring specifically. Also many normies are under the false impression that 'normal' is the only acceptable state.

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>>174414902
You can't claim to be a good dorf player and then go breaking oaths like that, anon.

>>174414752
Also fun fact I just found, the runelord alter thingy does a knock down charge often on its attacks. Its basically a horse that charges mid combat, and it does a pretty good job keeping grom down. I dont think it would save him in a 1v1 but it helps a lot in a fight like this one where he gets knocked back into your troops.

>>174414968
there is only one guy making sense here and he isnt posting /a/ reaction images to save face, iunno why you got so upset by someone pointing out the fact the dwarfs are not balanced, like fucking duh hardly lords are.

>>174413203
>paying CA for blood

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>>174415050
>there is only one guy

Oh don't worry friend, I know.

You know a good exercise is a pretty good way to calm down, k'know?

>>174414689
>Im better!
>Cant even comprehend how to play dwarfs well
Yeah, na, you're not.

>>174414556
>took you nearly a year to win a campaign on legendary
>but then you beat it 7 times on legendary in 6 weeks

Sure thing buddy.

Guise when will the second part come out

>>174413236
rolololo

>>174415219
2017

>>174415209
I decided to just power through it and get the achievements, every campaing is only 100 to 150 turns to finish, couple of hours each day knocks them out easy once you know how to play legendary, not that I expect you to understand that.
>Actually playing to completion
>Putting up with the boring as shit end game of clearing the map
Come the fuck on, hardly anyone bothers and that's why all the achievements for completing TWW are low as fuck.

>>174415209
>>but then you beat it 7 times on legendary in 6 weeks
Not him but I finished all the major factions campaigns in legendary in the first week it came out

i have no life

>>174415219
Second part of what?

>>174415712
Your brain from your moms pussy

>>174415219
soon

>charge straight into spear wall
>fight for 5 minutes without losing any units
>kill 110 enemies
>against fucking spears
Chariots were a mistake

>>174416231
Chariot anti-infantry beats out spear anti-large, esp. without AP.

crack fucking when

>>174416478
kek

>>174416478
isn't the linux version available ?

just make a linux partition on your hdd and play it like that

>can't play as Sarthorael
0/10 worst game ever made not even worth the banwith to load images of

>>174416412
This, anti-large cavalry will do the trick.

>>174413236
roll

How good are infernal guard compared to ironbreakers

>>174416730
Does he even have VO? Never heard anything from him, I imagine he just goes caw caw caw.

>>174416730
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831614403&searchtext=

Is today the day?

>>174417462

ʇoɯoɹɹoʍ

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So, guys, I was thinking about playing TW:W after a looong time.

Do you think I should play now or wait till they release ''The old friend''?

Wanted to play Von Carstein, should I go Isabella or Vlad?

Is hard to confederate with the Vampire Cunts? I really want Mannfred and his boys are kind of ok.

Should I play with the ''Settle anywhere'' mod? On one hand, looks interesting and form what I've seen it can be game changing, which is great, cause I got a bit bored of the game. But on the other hand I fear it could be ''too extreme'', like Orcs conquering the world or the VC living in the dwarven mountains or something like that...

Please help me guys, you all I have left...

>>174417462

No

It's not the day.

It will NEVER be the day

>>174417462
Not this week

>>174417462
kek

>>174417725
>Wanted to play Von Carstein, should I go Isabella or Vlad?

Vlad because vanguard and he's just that good as LL.

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>My fucking face when I finally finish an Attila campaign by conquering the whole map as Latin Christian WRE

Fuck that was hard though. Still the best Ashilla campaign I've ever done though. What a blast, I haven't enjoyed TW like this in ages.

>>174417798
>>174417685
>>174418052
>>174418478

:(

>still warhammer general

I miss Attila general

>>174418478

You get his vanguard ability even if you pick Isabella as your first lord

>>174418478
Why bother choosing vlad all his campaign effects apply when you start as Isabella and he is free to recruit.

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>>174418572

I miss Christopher Lee general.

Hey guys, I finnaly decided to restore Roman Empire as WRE in Attila. How should i do that on v.hard?

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>>174418572
>>174418638

Attila general was pretty comfy

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blood pack what ?

>>174419042
Probably a quick blurb about how it integrates with TWW2 if you own the first game and its blood pack.

>>174419042
THEY WILL MAKE US PAY FOR THE BLOOD OF THE SECOND!!!


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

>>174418761
More helmuts

>>174419042
they'll make the blood pack available for free without giving you back your 3 bucks :^)

that is, if you buy tww2

>>174419124
If CA had you pay for blood AGAIN in next game there would be butthurt on such scales that the chaos shenanigans would be like a fart in the wind

>>174419042
Either something to do with how it's going to work with WH2 or maybe it's getting some updated effects?

>Christian WRE

Traitor

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And it only took me 650 hours.

>>174420992
>25 siege defenses
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT POSSIBLE??
After 550 hours and about 80 campaigns I've had exactly ONE siege defense.

What do you think about vampires? I only played this faction so far.

I just had an idea that you can have endgame units early by engaging in a huge base units battle and making it high casualty battlefield which you then use to raise dead. Is that true?

I've recently created a battlefield with 2k casualties and I was able to raise basicly all the units available for vampires (it was about 80 turns in the game however and I don't know if it would be the same for very early game).

On top of that you raise a % of your casualties after won battles and you can literally rewind units that took high damage.

Combined with fast and mobile bats to hold mounted archers until your slower units arrive, healing your monstrous units and being able to recruit supercheap skeletons everywhere on the map, I think they compensate more than enough for the lack of ranged units. Plus Mannfred seems like a cool guy who's not afraid of anything.

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>>174421408

>Plus Mannfred seems like a cool guy

>>174421408
The graveyards you create are also permanent, so it's another plus for that tactic

Why do people not like pausing in Total War games?

It seems idiotic that people try not to pause despite the fact that they're playing against an AI who can control all their units simultaneously (albeit badly).

Also if my general gives the order for my units to get in formation they don't all scramble, one by one, into the formation, they're disciplined troops, they'd move simultaneously because they're trained for that shit.

>>174421774
It's viewed as less skillful. Anyone can pause and sit there for 5 hours deciding what to do. Or play the game in slow motion so you can react faster. It takes a lot more effort and attention to react in real time to the AI/other players.

To be honest it really doesn't matter though, people should play how they want.

>>174421408
They don't get elite shit in the early game.

I've raised grave mounds super early and it only gave me dogs & bats in addition to skellys & zombos, but later on in the game I could get black knights & grave guard out of it, even later I assume I'll be able to get terrorgiests & such, but not before I can already tech to build them.

IIRC you can actually tech Drakenhoff to build every single VC unit so the use of Grave Mounds is still mainly raising an army asap.

For me Vampires are kind of fun but if I'm not playing Mannfred's army I get bored. They're probably the army that has suffered the most from unit abilities being removed because unless you have Mannfred there (or another vamp) being a supreme wizard you have fuck all to do in battles.

You could kind of fix this by doing a cav heavy army but then sieges will be impossible.

>>174392453

bring in 2-3 full stacks of lords, some infantry, but lots of cav and arty, autobreeezeolve 'em good

Pls come out of beta DeI 1.2

I want to play Rome II again.

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>>174405921
>no cavalry

>>174421774
Normies like multitasking, which is also why they play mobas. We autistics are not as capable of it as they are, but our macro skills are superior. This is also why armies led by clinical autists like Montogmery and manned by multitasking normies who can react more quickly in combat tend to be more successful.

>>174421774
>Why do people not like pausing in Total War games?
Dunno but I don't really care.
I don't want to play Total Starcraft, I want to watch a comfy battle even with 20v20 or 40v40 armies

>>174393420
>playing von carstein
>doing carstein ring quest
>get to battle quest in nagash place
>chaos is literally right there fucking up the empire
>if i send vlad to the battle im going to get fucked six ways from sundays

T-thanks game

Also does anyone know why I can only move certain units with vlad in vanguard?

>>174422167
>It's viewed as less skillful.
You're not playing fucking starcraft though.

Anyone can sit there for 5 hours deciding what to do, but it's only good players who make the best decisions.

>>174423176
>I want to watch a comfy battle even with 20v20 or 40v40 armies
exactly.

If I played a large battle without pausing I'd never have the time to watch my little elite unit charge into their flank, or monitor how well X unit does in whatever scenario. All my time would just be spent microing shit in real time.

>>174423301
>but it's only good players who make the best decisions.

You're acting like there are some complex decisions to be made. It's just simple maneuvering.

>>174421307
If an enemy army is laying siege to one of your towns and you think your garrison can take them out in the open just click your town and right click the enemy army to sally out and fight them in the open field. It counts as a siege defense.

>>174423194
did you not just teleport him?

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>>174420992
I also got that one recently. I have 200 hours.

Most of it comes from defending Sylvanian settlements as the Empire against Greenskins AND defending Kraka Drak as the Dwarfs against Chaos.


>Confederate with Kraka Drak
>Leader of Kraka Drak manages too keep the invasion by the chaos warrior faction in Kraka Drak territory and slowly whittle them down

His titles fits

so is today the day of news anons?


>>174423439
I agree anon, I use pause and slow motion for screenshots and pretty things.

>1.5 file is no longer up
>didn't have the chance to download it
ANON REUPLOAD THAT SHIT

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>>174419042
Maybe they are dropping blood packs and we are finally getting M-rated Total War games.

>>174419042
i hope its better effects for the blood pack , i mean its nice but having your units being painted fully red after fighting one unit is stupid

>he prounced most honourabru takeda clan as taKAYda
how can we trust these people to make historically accurate games?

THIS JUST IN

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/854698203148673024

>>174425418
Blood pack is there its just the same for both games.

>>174425870
More or less like I can trust a german about latin

>>174425418

>CA dropping free shekels

Nah mang

JEW BTFO

my friend likes massive battles so im trying to convince him to buy Attila with me
he likes doing a noobsquare with the greek phalanx, is there anything similar in attila?

>>174426210
WRE is extremely defensive, try that

>>174426210

Yeah kind of, Barbar pikes and shit.

>>174426105
So, a lot then.

>>174426021
That's not an old friend, right?

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Hey can some real nigga post that "Roll for Charlemagne" image with the challenge conditions?

>>174426435
Black&White TW when?

>>174426552

Right after Total War: Pike & Shot and Medieval III.

>>174413236
rolling

So I'm feeling to have a little break from warhammer and I own quite a lot of total war games I haven't played because my brother buys them

so I'm thinking either
>WRE atilla campaign
Or
>FotS shogun 2 campaign
not done either before, which one should I go for?

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>>174391738

>Wanna do Shogun 2 again
>Realize cavalry can only fire in a forward arc and there is no way to mod them to be able to do parthian or drive-by shots.

>>174426821
FoTS

Fight for da Shogun, play as Aizu, only use traditional and Shogunate units.

>>174426821

Latin Christian WRE if you want big boy's TW.

Aizu Shogunate if you want to save Japan from itself.

>>174426890
I just imagined Parthian-shot Otomo Donderbuss Cavalry and got a little stiffy.

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What if Giants are the good guys

>>174426931
>Latin Christian WRE if you want big boy's TW.
is it as hard as legendary clan angrund?

>>174426926
sounds good.

Do they... still get those sweet gatling guns though?

>>174423549

I'd envy the dwarfs in dealing with Chaos. Always as the empire the biggest challenge was the maneuver war - with the dorfs mountain holds you could probably just park a 2stack at one valley, another 2stack at another, and boom you are done.

>>174427161
they were before ogres came and fucked their shit up.

>>174427212

>Playing a ruined Empire that starts with half-manned armies and a tonne of enemies and hordes shitting all over it with a fucked economy and terrible public order that's hated by everyone with a religion that causes your troops to have shit morale against the Huns

Angrund is for casuals.

>>174427212
Gatling guns are an end-game unit. You can get them as Aizu, yeah, but that's not very honoraburu.

>>174423549
If we're talking DLC I'd like to see, I wouldn't mind an official Kraka Drak DLC. I know that CA doesn't have much to work with, lore-wise, but they're also capable of making new units like they did for Brettonia and it's not like GW cares about the integrity of their dead setting any more.

>It wasn't the people
>It wasn't God
>It was you

old friend confirmed for never ever

>>174413236
I don't have neither beastmen/welves yet but If I roll them I'll purchase them right now

Anyway rollin for da one true git, gimme the TRUE champion of Gork

>>174423809
Would you slow mo me like one of your french girls

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Come on lad! You can do it!

>>174428080
guess you're spending money on poopoopeepee

>>174428351
Dat map in the corner tho

>>174428351
I have never once seen dwarfs recolonize that settlement.

>>174426926
Shogunate Units are Chassepot-wielding Riflemen tho, which were state-of-the-art in the 1860-70s

You can't go away from Steamship either. Every ship is a cannon-armed steamship, and reminder that you cannot jsut auto away from FoTS Naval without getting your economy bombarded into stone age

>>174428804
But you can stay full traditional with youir armies.

>>174428664
He even has to play the worst poo pee, poor guy

>>174411341
what's so funny about that?

>>174428804
I was mainly thinking of the Shinsengumi Police Force and the Shogitai, rather than Shogunate Line Infantry or Shogunate Guard Infantry, although I take your point.

>>174428701
It's been a bit of a strange campaign. This is my first go at a Legendary Dwarf campaign. Started off with me getting the capital province then taking Death Pass (Grimgor had taken his garrison off to fight Barak Var and I went in a finessed Black Crag when he wasn't looking). Then while I mustered my forces in preparation to push southward Barak Var started decimating the Greenskins on the western half of the badlands. I was able to get all but one of the settlements of the Eastern Badlands (including Karak Eight Peaks luckily); Karak Azul took over the rest. With the Badlands Bowl over and the other Dwarfs too strong to confederate with I started the push north, and that is when I found out that Chaos had been busy to say the least. The ENTIRETY of the Empire had been raized, the only settlement the Empire held on to was originally a Brettonian one (also Kislev was able to survive somehow with, again, a Brettonian settlement).

Holy shit fucking Chaos

They wiped out everything besides Reikland and are now coming for my comfy undead lands.

>>174388229
wow, why are the OP's getting that bad lately?

>>174392317
God I love that.

>>174392487
Which makes it even better.

>>174430276
Chaos can go eat a dick. God damn are they fucking annoying.

>>174427329
Ok starting as WRE was a really bad idea for my first Attila campaign.

So many fucking provinces as once what the fuck am I meant to do with them.

So far I'm
>keeping public order in check in pretty all my provinces. It's only turn 3 but shits starting to stabilise it seems
>building up my armies at borders where I'm at war with factions
Am I doing it right?

The campaign adviser said it'd be better to consolidate power inwards towards rome and I'm gonna do that in regards to building but not armies so much.

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Is this shit in-character?

I fucking hate these Athel Faglen fuccbois.

>>174432279
No, if you try to hold onto everything as the WRE, you'll just end up overextended and fail horribly. The high level strategy is to simply raze a lot of your holdings and consolidate yourself to something manageable until you can get your house in order.

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>>174433557

Obligatory

>ABANDONING EVEN AN INCH OF RIGHTFUL ROMAN CLAY

Goddamn I haven't played Medieval 2 in fucking years and now I suck dick at it

I can't even get my binds right, I'm so used to the new camera and controls I don't think I can play medieval 2 for shit.

>>174433791

That kind of prideful thinking will soon mean that Anons Rome wont have any clay at all.

>>174432269
Even more annoying are all the Empire fucking shits that can't defend against them at all

>>174433480

>Strength rank: 1

Prepare your boipussy, you're gonna have to fit a whole tree up there soon.

>>174433480
They helped Bretonnia crush Mousillon repeatedly in the lore, but its in-character for Wood Elves to be up to manipulative shenanigans that make no apparent sense for m-muh weave, so yeah its fine

Naieth the Prophetess probably ordained this to prevent some trees from falling

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>>174434084
>think the empire can slow them down
>they blow through them easily
>think the dorfs may have a chance
>they get fucked even harder

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>>174433557
>simply raze a lot of your holdings
You don't have to do this, let those undefended regions continue to earn you money until you definitely can't defend them any more, otherwise you're just asking for a massive public order decline all over the empire. You'll have rebellions popping up in areas you'll want to keep.

>>174434186

>WElves
>doing something
>ever

>>174428664
>poopoopeepee
EXPLAIN RIGHT NOW