/twg/ - Total War General

>>174505124
Ways to nullify damage resist in TWW are few and far between. Especially for physical.
It's also just a health modifier really so the toughness difference isn't reflected the best.
I'm not really complaining, just kinda observing how TWW has to slice everything down.

>>174505310
Last time I checked magic damage and attacks ignored physical resistance in TWW, and every faction can get it from units or magic except greenskins

>>174505451
Sorry, it'd be damage resistance, as only physical resistance wouldn't represent a ward save.

>>174505168
Abhorash won't ever be in the game and Nagash is pretty unlikely, and if he is then it means End Times units will be in game and that seems unlikely. Still Its hard to see how CA will portray Thanquol without using his End Times model so who knows. Most of what CA have said suggests this is strictly 8th edition. Kroak should definitely make an appearance,

>>174505495
there is no way CA would give a flat 20% ward save, it will probably be physical resistance

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>>174505521
>Deliverance of Itza will just be a flock of doom

>>174505547
Or they could make it lower than 20%
But it still remains an explicit health modifier at that stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K_0M1aWu8M

ay caramba

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>>174505579
>Overast Deliverance of Itza
>everyone gets back up

>>174505628
It's the better option compared to just giving them more HP

>>174505168
OP FUCKING KILL YOURSELF

>>174505168

This OP needs more [Embed]

>>174505795
I'm on it m8. Just waiting for Chaos stunties to be announced.

>>174505970
dying of old age =/= suicide

>>174505673
PAAAAVISE CROSSBOWMEN

>>174505168
OP did you make the OP for /civ4x/ aswell?

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>>174506217
>dying at all
Death is just a journey to another place.

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>>174506469
Yeah.
Here's another screenshot from that same game.

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State of the world 226 turns in, with Conquer Anywhere, just wandering around picking big fights as Beastmen, currently at Barak Varr trying to goad Ungrim into coming closer
Von Carsteins hold some land in Western Sillymania still
VC pushed out of Sylvania by Welves
Empire steady
Varg growing
Wood Elves dominant, destroyed all Chaos stacks, Age of Peace? triggered
Border Princes ate Tilea
Greenskins still exit but barely a strong force
Dwarfs hold the bowl and rioaming armies fight minor orc factions there

At this point it looks like the world's fate will be between Welves and Varg, probably with Welves winning.

>>174506637
>Antioch


Bring on the memes

>>174506643
I certainly appreciate observer games but wouldn't it make more sense to show us the map screen?

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>>174506643
I want to try conquer anywhere, but it seems to benefit the norscan fucking shits the most, and the last thing they need is more campaign buffs

>>174506741
smoky aesthetics are cool

I'm hoping the new historical has gunpowder, there is only so much fots I can enjoy before getting bored of the setting

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>tfw betrayed by the steam dlc update steam watching anon

You said it would be soon.

You said they were predictable.

I've got less bamboo than a starving panda.

I've got less crumpets than a brit in walmart.

>>174506836
There's a version which doesn't let Norscum conquer anywhere, at least.

Has the Old Friend been scrapped or what? Atleast give us another lord pack ffs

>>174506798
Wanted to laugh at Manny having to live in lame Fort Jakova with his entourage of immortally lame vampire friends who have to follow him instead of hanging out with the cool kids because they owe him money

>>174506707
Named my planet in Alpha Centauri 'Planet'.
Only two ringworld sections finished there, got a third before I stopped playing for the day, named it after some cunt in voice chat because I couldn't think of anything else.

It was a Sol start but I moved my capital. No horsefuckers near my Pannonia. I intend to eventually move it to Antioch.
Or whichever segment gets the best resource generation RNG.

>>174506836
It also means that when you retaliate and hit Norsca you can do it slowly and steadily with a base of operations, rather than having to commit a stack to complete genocide, lest they rebuild.

>fots
>3 ship fleet cripples the economy of an entire province

any mods that get fix this?

>>174507081
Why not both?

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>>174505168

Holy Fucking God my Lombards campaign of 3 hours was just ruined by the war weariness shit when the Franks declared war on me and then never stopped.

Does anyone have a link to a mod that changes this shit up a bit?

>>174507157
Yes, it's called buy some ironclads. You can download it from your docks.

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>>174505168
so /twg/, what's the most uncomfy/JUST moment you've had in a campaign?

Pic related.

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>>174507446
Don't ask.

>>174507519
now this is something

>>174507446
Syracuse is easy as fuck, just sink their transports over and over.

>>174507519
>[muffled Punic laughter in the distance]

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>>174507519

>>174507519
n..nani?

>>174507332
>implying I'm that far along in the campaign

>>174507446
probably any time I've lost naval superiority in fots, or the oda campaign where nobunaga ended up w/ the impolite trait + the game assigned a broken treaties penalty to me randomly, causing me to basically hit realm-divide levels of diplomatic penalties while only having 3-4 provinces. Or when my late-game tosa republic campaign was turned into an endless nightmare by endless ai agents, that I was forced to sit and watch every single turn despite having fast movement/show ai moves off, and had no way of dealing with as they assassinated all of my high-tier agents through brute force, and all my low tier agents couldn't touch the ai's

Shogun 2 is probably the only game I've ever had uncomfy campaigns in

>>174507446
>all those transport fleets

where is your navy

>>174507269
if you win a couple of battles they should sue for peace, I've never really had a problem with war weariness

>>174507519
>>174507756
On the plus side, at least it's not Carthage.

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>>174507519
I fought bravely, but in the end it was to much.

However we will be back, Rome is eternal.

>>174507930
delete this

Which total war takes place earliest in time?

>>174508067
r2 wrath of sparta I believe

>>174508067
The next historical total war ^::::)

>>174506836
There is something really beautiful about the diffuse light of explosions and muzzle flashes in a lazy rolling cloud of smoke.

any news about Warhammer 2 or Old Friend in the past 2 weeks?

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

>>174507446

When you're playing Lombards and then Franks, Sicily, Benevilo, Papal States and Bavaria attack you at once and your War Weariness goes to -7 in two turns.

>>174508492
well, the blood dlc is free for TWW2 if you already own it for TWW (and vice versa)

>>174508919
ok-kay... that's a something... i guess.

Best friend at 3pm today folks keep an eye on that Facebook/Twitter.

>>174509507
I'll just watch this thread... you'll share the news with the rest of us back here, right?

>>174509507
Don't toy with my emotions like this

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IN GAME TRAILERS WHEN

>>174509562
I will be the very first person ITT to post it here.

Buddyboy will be more goblin archers for azhag

>>174509507
who actually gives a fuck at this point?

>>174509845
Hey watch the tone this is a T for Teen game.

>>174509980
the only teen game you'll ever get

>>174509507
I go to job interview in few hours and you better be right and old friend be revealed when i come back or else i will be very angry at you.

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What's the best matchup for Head to Head?

I have a feeling that Beastmemes vs. WoC would be a lot of fun.

>>174510419
What do you mean by head to head? Standard multiplayer match?

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STOP DELAYING ANCIENT EMPIRES

>>174510684
I imagine he means Head to Head campaign, since its got Head to Head in the name.
As for the best, Empire and Vampires works alright I think.

>>174510857
Oh right I forgot about that.

>>174510774

'No'

>>174510774
>DELAYING
They're working on it, what the fuck more do you want?

>>174510774
tomorrow

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>>174511131
Sure they are.

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>>174505521
>Still Its hard to see how CA will portray Thanquol without using his End Times model so who knows.

I think it would work if Thanquol and Boneripper were separate units (with Boneripper as a sort of Legendary Hero) that get buffs for being near each other.

>>174511245
Yeah just like Krell, right?

>>174510684
Sorry, Head to Head campaign.

>>174510857
That's what I've been hearing.

>>174510774
>Ancient empires of Nehekhara, Zharr-Nagrund and Sky Titans
yes, they are working on them

Can I turn off matched combat in Attila?

>>174511540
>Zharr-Nagrund
Nice try bud.

>>174511598
okay, it ain't so ancient, but still

>>174511245
Boneripper would be interesting if he was unlocked like a mount, but actually added a second unit to Thanquol, so you suddenly go from scrappy Grey Seer to Grey Seer with a buff Rat Ogre protecting him.

>>174511245
>Legendary Hero

anon...

>>174511907
this will likely be the case - I read up on the skaven roster and it seems that generic skaven "mages" get access to rat ogre mounts, so if Thanquol is in he will have Boneripper as a unique version of the rat ogre mount, similar to franz/deathclaw and louen/beaquis

TODAY

>>174512289
>I read up on the skaven roster
WHAT? there're leaks of TWWH2?!!!!
because in tabletop mages sure as hell do not get ratogre mounts

>>174512505
nvm apparently regular lords get it, but the same logic still applies

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TODAY IS THE DAY GUYS I CAN FEEL IT

>>174512605
eh, I was hoping you had stumbled upon leaks

>>174512441
>>174512608
kek

>tfw they'll surely waste at least one TODAY (not necessarily today's TODAY, but still) to announce that 4th race is Skaven, when everyone knows it already.

>>174512441
>>174512608
until next week then :^)

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>>174512650
Don't you dare ..

>>174512719
Hopefully it comes with its own cinematic/intro video. I seriously doubt it'll be a "hey guys skaven are in, what a surprise!" on twitter.

>>174512781
>I seriously doubt
ah, such young and naive... you have seen nothing of the world yet.

>>174512719
>implying they won't wait until they're well into showing off different units of the other three factions until they release skaven.
Everyone knows the fourth race is skaven but that doesn't mean they won't play up the meme.

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>>174512605
>but the same logic still applies

It doesn't, because when a Warlord gets a Rat Ogre Bonebreaker as a mount, he is still a single model - as are Franz and Leoncouer. Thanquol and Boneripper are two distinct models that can move and fight separately from each other (as long as Boneripper is within 12" of Thanquol), so they do not act in the same way as a mount at all.

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>>174512781

>"We're not going to reveal the fourth faction yet guys! XDD"
>when literally everything points to skaven
>implying CA won't have a "big announcement" when the super secret fourth faction Skaven are announced.

Is there ever any reason to use high-tier units as dwarfs?

You can literally buff Dwarf Warriors with great weapons to be as strong as Black Orcs so I don't see the point.

>>174513052
So you can throw grenades at bitches without wasting slots on miners.

>>174513052
In infantry, no, not really.
Longbeards aren't much more expensive than dwarf warriors though.

>>174511629
Zharr-Naggrund goes back to like -3000 before sigmar

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>>174513038
>CA makes a big fanfare about announcing the fourth faction
>it's Estalian Conquistadores

>ancient empires never
>medieval kingdoms never
>new historical tw at least a year away

>>174512978
>implying CA cares

>>174513052
immunity to psychology/expert charge defense, depending on the unit

>>174513156
>4th faction skaven w/ Kangz as pre-order
>4th faction Kangz w/ skaven pre-order

which would cause a bigger shitstorm?

>>174513151
that's what I said

Nehekhara is -6k, IIRC, and Sky Titans fell ages ago

>>174513235
Easily Kangz being base game.
They have almost zero pertinence to the new world factions.

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>>174513156

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>>174513156

>yfw CA don't even bother to reskin the human factions in Lustria and we'll have state troops marching through jungles rather than New World Conquistadores

>>174513235
who cares about more skellingtons anyway? it's like Vampire Counts, but with all the fleshy bits cut off. big deal.

>>174511245
>>174511907
Hasn't Thanquol gone through multiple bonerippers?

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>>174513341
>state troop araby

>>174513341
>By Sigmar, no!

>>174513156
we don't need 3rd human faction, but if they make Vampire Pirates, I'd be all game

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>>174513341

>>174513427
Arabyan lord
>Wearing full helm in the desert heat

>>174513404
Yeah, Boneripper takes the fall when Thanquol's schemes go tits up, usually.

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>>174513427

>click on Araby
>Yallah! We may not be the empire, but our realm has riches and strength in equal measure.

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>>174513341
>Conquistadore skins sold as DLC a month after launch

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>>174513341
At least with an Estalia reskin they wouldn't have the animation issue.

Even the units are mostly the same, Swordsmen become Rodeleros, everyone else gets morions and has their twin-tailed comets filed off.

>>174513482
So, a recruitable hero that's only recuitable when Thanquol isn't dead and gives Thanquol a melee defence buff, but otherwise is a rat ogre that can't do anything on the world map except be placed into Thanquol's army. Or make Boneripper a RoR unit that's recuited from the global pool and can only be recruited by Thanquol.

>>174513235
There is no pre-order faction

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>>174513729

I'll be very disappointed if they don't at least change up the helmets to what they had in the development preview screens.

Shit just add a few feathers, skulls and purity seals and you're good to go.

Alright boys. Time for our favorite Czech meme.
Warhammer 2 edition.

>High Elf Treekin
>Skink Cataphracts
>Skavenslave archers

>>174513665
The fact that they're referred to as Arabians instead of Arabyans in lore shows that GW didn't put much thought into them. They even worship "Allah". It's unlikely CA will do anything with them, especially since they exist to get conquered by Settra.

>>174513681
Estalian conquistadores would be an appropriate pre-order faction if they had to make one.

Though of course, there is the question if a pre-order faction is considered appropriate at all.

>>174513912
The KANGZ don't bother with Arabay so much. They mostly interact with Bretonnia and Estalia and Tilea.
They're also along the Skaven route to the new world.

>>174513729
That's a bascinet though.

>>174513930
Probably not because the combined map won't be available at launch.

>>174513930
They won't make one. Chaos Warriors was incredibly rushed and was never intended to be pre-order, it was supposed to be the first DLC released a month after game launch but the game launch was pushed back a month. Time that could have been spent polishing the WoC was instead spent on finishing the game, resulting in half-done WoC.

>>174513895
Skavenslave handgunners.

>"When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots"

>>174513895
>Slann on Steamtanks

>>174513995
That's in lore. In game whoever is playing Settra will be expected to go out and fuck with the Arabyans. It will be interesting to see whether the Kangz AI is designed to be isolationist like the Wood Elves or if the nature of the campaign for game 2 means that Kangz will send their spooky armies to Lustria to steal treasures to take over the vortex.

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>>174514004
It wasn't supposed to be illustrative, I just grabbed a picture of a conquistador.

>>174513108
But with buffs even miners become insane.

Runelords & Belegar can buff tier 1 units in both red-tree skill lines so overall they get +17MA & MD (along with tech) and +15 CB which puts their stats at the same level as most factions elite units, not to mention that dwarfs are one of the easiest factions to get extra chevrons on units.

>>174514019
They could be a horde in Lustria at game start would work.


>>174514058
Represented with the TWW lack of animations. It'll be perfect.

>>174514132
They should be able to sail out and fight the other races, but when CA said the AI can win I'm pretty sure they're only referring to the LL led primary factions.

NO NEW STUFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR1YNhPqpDs

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>>174514258
FUCK YOU GRACE

>>174514258
I never understand why gaming previews like these show the devs so much. Can't they show bits and pieces of game or cinematics instead? At least old stuff?

>>174514393
Remember Rome 2?

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>>174514258

>It's just a rat

>>174514258
One hour left don't loose hope friendo

>>174514480
no, I'm warhammer newfag

>>174514258
>narrative campaign

has total war ever had a good narrative campaign? Idk why they felt that they should focus on the vortex

>le ebin skaven do not exist reference

upvoted!

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>>174514258
>IT'S JUST A RAT
I'M DONE WITH THE JOKE RELEASE INFO GOD DAMN IT

>>174514513
Lot of trailery stuff, little actual communication between the community and the devs.
This sort of thing attempts to sell to the audience that the devs' minds are in the right place.

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>>174507446
J U S T
U S T
S T
T

>Today wasn't the day

>>174514481
>>174514560
>4th faction will be just a rat
no skaven units/heroes/lords, just Rats

all other Skaven units will be paid DLC

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>>174514258

>Malekith is just a nasty piece of work quite frankly, the epitome of evil and badness

Wow rude

>it's just a rat

I swear to god that teaser is getting me angry just as much as it's hyping me

I wanna strangle that smug cunt while laughing joyfully

>>174514727
you speak of the one true king of all elfkind

>>174514727
yeah we all know he's just a sissy boy that wants to make mommie-dear proud

>>174514727
They'll probably do him as poorly as they did Archaon's voice.

>>174514194
Actually just for shits I figured this stuff out yes, I'm autistic

With all those buff miners charging get 56 MA & 43 Weapon Strength.

Greatswords in comparison get 48 MA & 58 weapon strength on the charge.

But if you actually factor in armour piercing / normal damage ratios miners are at 34 armour piercing damage to the greatswords 41, so they're actually really similar on the charge.

>>174514824
meh, resident edgelords are supposed to be pathetic, so it's okay

>>174514258
>Grimgor campaign
>Fucking pansy magic ain't orky
>Let's go stomping boyz!
>Destabilise the world
First campaign goal set.

>>174514902
Didn't they mention that Vortex mechanic is for Americas/Atlantis campaign only, Global Campaign being same sandbox it is now?

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>>174514717
>Skaven roster: Giant rats and Rat Swarms
>$19 Soldiers of the horned rat DLC clanrats, stormvermin and skavenslaves
>Machinations of Skyre DLC £25 warp lightning cannon, doomwheel and ratling guns
>Pack of Moulder DLC $25 hell pit abom, rat ogres, stormfiends
>Horde of Pestilence DLC $25 plagueclaw catapult, plague monks, plague priest
>Shadow of the east DLC $25 Eshin night runners, assassins, gutter runners
>Death to the beard-things dlc $20 poisoned wind mortar, globadiers, jezzails and warpfire thrower

>>174515069
Probably so yeah, since the races of the base game will not be able to interact with the Vortex whatsoever.

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>>174515209

H-How did you get this secret information? Delete this right now!

>>174514258
>Malekith is just a nasty piece of work frankly, and, uh, he's just the epitome of evil and badness

What lothern merchant is this shill getting his shekels from? This is a terrible hatchet job on the one true Phoenix King who is destined to unite all of the elves to live tranquilly in Athel Loren for all time

>>174514521
>has total war ever had a good narrative campaign? Idk why they felt that they should focus on the vortex
it has in warhammer u nob.

People loved the Brettonia campaign for being more narrative focused and giving you the option to win via a narrative means rather than world domination I still chose to colonise the shit out of the smelly empire peasants though

King & the Warlord was when they first tried it out and it's amazing. Clan Angrund & Crooked Moon are largely considered 2 of the best TWW campaigns because of the narrative twist they put on the standard campaign objectives.

>>174514727
>they're ignoring gay as shit end times lore where he was actually the good guy all along
HAH

>>174515249
They'll probably be a generic orc faction somewhere though which you can mod Grimgor to be lord of

>>174515348
End times and age of shitmar have no power here, and instead Malekith is still the evil incestious guy who lives with his mother.

>>174515209
exactly
except Giant Rats and Rat Swarms will be merged, like vampire bats were

>>174514727
>when you've lived for millennia but is still defined by that time you were rightfully told to fuck off for being a shitlord
He's the biggest failure in all of WF.

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>>174515590
>We still haven't had confirmation that there'll be any old world races in the new world campaign.

alright so I was beating the shit out of my friend in mp battles and I decided to make an army of only those shitty elven infantry units (the cheapest units) and the tree dude and it was pretty much undefeatable.

Thing is he did the same fucking thing and now I can't beat him anymore, how do I counter that crap

we are both new total warhammer players

>>174515831
If you use the same army and he's whooping your ass, then the correct response is to git gud.

>>174515791
CA will totally not recycle Empire, Norsca, Beastmen, Chaos and Greenskins.
No way.

They already confirmed no new gameplay this week.

>>174515486
>Clan Angrund & Crooked Moon are largely considered 2 of the best TWW campaigns because of the narrative twist they put on the standard campaign objectives.

This is very true. It's literally always fun to go capture K8P even if the experience is EXTREMELY fucking barebones.

I hope they do a good job with the vortex campaign and refine it further for their future historical titles.

>>174515917
we are not playing the same army, I got bored of it after 3 battles and he started using it after that

he won 3 battles so far with that stupid shit

I bet I can win with some chariots but the map is so small (underground) I can't get behind him, maybe we should play a real map

I don't care that he's winning, I actually want him to win too so he doesn't get bored of the game but fighting that army over and over is not that fun.

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>>174514258
ONE "TODAY" WASTED REEEEEEEEE NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS AGAIN

>>174516027
I don't want new gameplay, I want my old friend.

>>174516171
If he's just spamming spearmen you could just... you know, use a proper army composition and win?

does radious take suggestions?

I need steam tank pulled by demigryphs like a chariot and carrying a helstorm on top

>>174516275
and they should come in units of like, twenty or something, on medium unit sizes

>>174516275
He's reading this thread and taking notes as we speak. He won't credit you though :^)

never liked skavens despite how good they were in 8e

why do you guys like them so much?

>>174516657
Cool units, interesting play style and fairly unique concept.

Gonna be fun to last samurai the high elves.

>>174516657
edgelords.
ignore the warmbloods, anon

>>174516657
they are FUN!!!!!!!
I once fought High Elves in 8th edition. A unit of Swordmasters was trying to flank my Stormvermin. but I had a Warpfire Thrower nearby! So I fired it at the swordmasters. It misfired, ran into Stormvermins' flank and exploded, obliterating third of the unit
it was a glorious battle!

>>174516657
>how good they were in 8e

instantly disregarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsodisBjTsU

LOL am I supposed to believe the warhammer expansion won't have naval battles because of this?

CA are a bunch of jews

>>174516895
No. You're supposed to believe it wont have naval battles because they are fucking shit in every Total War they have been in, that 99% of players avoid like the plague.

>>174516895
i-it's like Sid Meier's Pirates! but with immersion, good graphics and in fantasy setting...

...HOLY SHIT, I NEEDS THIS!

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>>174514560
No upboats for you :^(

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Dark Elves are looking a whole lot better than the bland ones in the trailer.

>>174517262
makes sense that with Dark Elves' obsession with spikes they'd promote the ones with longest nose to elite units

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>>174517067
>naval with cannons is shit

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>>174516895
Officially released v1.0 out of early access today
Man O' War Launch Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJYghUCzW4
http://store.steampowered.com/app/344240/

>>174517392
Yep. And even if it wasn't, only a few factions would have cannons, so it will still be shit for the other dozen races.

>>174515738
Sacred Union pleasing to Ahura Mazda desu

Malekith did nothing wrong

>>174517067
ain't played older TWs, but I agree
you either make proper naval combat with wind and stuff mattering, which takes as much effort as a mid-sized game, or you shouldn't bother at all.

NOBODY needs Age of Wonders 3 style naval combat *shudders*

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>Angrund campaign
>destroyed Skarsnik and Crooked Moon early on
>a number of turns later
>get an event saying "the Crooked Moon faction has appeared!" in the Badlands
>and they're only at war with me, not with the K8P gits
>couple of turns later Skarsnik get a Waaagh going

What the fuck? What is the point of destroying a faction if just comes back to life later?

>>174517596
are you saying Empire should give in to Beastmen?

>>174517496
Gfto. It's "slow-land battle"-naval that's shit. Naval in Empire and Napoopan is objectively awesome, and it could be that in TWW too with the possible variety.

>>174517592
>hasn't played naval in older games
>thinks he's entitled to an opinion

>>174516171
>chariots vs nothing but defense vs large units

Why do you think that? Missiles will ruin the treekin, and efficient light infantry like savage orcs or swordsmen will do for the spearmen

>>174517592
So you mean like in Empire, which is what the whole engine is still based on?

>>174517697
>>hasn't played naval in older games
>>thinks he's entitled to an opinion
Not him but iv played all the other TW games

Naval combat has always been utter shit. Its either spam melee, spam fire arrows or make a line and let the AI float into your cannons. The fact is there is more work in Warhammer naval than all other TW games combined and it would be a total fucking waste of time.

>>174517895
erm, perhaps

then why do people bash naval?

>>174517951
>make a line and let the AI float into your cannons
You could at least have bothered to learn some naval tactics before forming an opinion. that's like saying land battles are shit after making a line and then just sitting back to watch.

>>174509756
fug u

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>>174517262
Reminder that High Elves are pussies and only Dark Elves can impose Elven supremacy upon the world.

>>174517895
>So you mean like in Empire

To the detriment for the rest of the game.

Can any of the dwarf units hurt siege towers other than their towers?

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>>174518131
No blood for foreign adventures! Athel Loren First!

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>>174517448
Nice.

>>174518005
Becasue it was absolutely terrible in Rome 2, and not very good in Shogun 2.

Also, the AI was horribly bad and sometimes just did nothing or did retarded shit.

>>174518309
The shitty state of the game was not the fault of the naval battle part.

>>174518757
What are those guys with the toothbrush helmets?

>>174518785
Copious amounts of dev time were wasted making ship battles instead of making the rest of the game playable.

>>174518923
Probably Tileans. They're the only ones I can think of that might wear those helmets.

>>174514258
Did none of you watch this thing the whole way through?
He says all races will be in the games eventually.

>>174517262
In trailer we had only basic infantry with crossbows, witch elves and Malekith. This guy looks like a lord or at least a hero.

>>174519325
Hobgoblins? Fimirs? Araby?

>>174519459
Presumably he means any race with a codex from 8th.
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Army_Books_8th_Edition

>>174519325
We've known that since before game one came out.

The real question is will they do the minor races at this point.

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>>174518785
I've noticed that the quality of naval combat tends to be tied to the historical era the game takes place in.

Empire and Napoleon are in a time where naval warfare was well-developed and (mostly) conducted at range, so the emphasis was on proper positioning and being better at using the wind to your advantage to get the best angles for opening fire without getting shot back in return.

In Shogun 2 the Japanese were tards who basically could not into navies at all. Bows and arrows are the only real ranged power you have most of the time, and honorabu hand-to-hand is a focus with giant retarded floating castle ships. This just isn't very fun at all.

But then in Fall of the Samurai suddenly you're in an even more advanced era of naval warfare, so it's basically Empire/Napoleon but better developed and with sickass steamers and explosive shells. Probably the best naval combat has ever been in Total War.

And then comes Rome II with its naval battles of antiquity - which were complete and utter clusterfucks that the Romans in reality hated just as much as the players do because it was a horrible clusterfuck. Everything is incredibly primitive and boils down to ramming and boarding, but they're worse at it than the Japanese so it's even less fun. Attila is more or less the same.

Given that the navies in Warhammer have all sorts of bonkers shit going on that can kill other ships at range and even a lot of the close combat is massively unconventional (e.g. giant mechanical hammers held by the ship's figurehead) you could probably make a pretty good naval game out of it. Unfortunately the perception of naval battles has been sullied by the last three main games all being set in eras with primitive and unfun naval warfare so we're not getting any of it.

>>174519541
there are factions without 8th ed books that are in the game anon. Beastmen, Skaven, and Bretonnia didn't get 8th ed books

>>174519549
what this git said

>>174519654
Skaven did, dunno about beastmen.

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>>174519878
no, didn't really affect Skaven since slave blobs were so good but Beasties suffered for it

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>>174520061
>Bretonnia : Feb 2004

>>174520061
>slave blobs were so good

you've never played whfb have you?

>>174520061
>Bretonnia february 2004

fug

>>174520183
hey no need to be sad anon , we got an upgraded version of bretonnia that the army books never gave

>>174520331
Ah yes, Bretonnia [infantry].

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>>174520061
plastic sisters when?

>>174520417
i was thinking more along the lines of hypogriff knights

>>174520061
>2004
AHAHHAA, fuck bretonnia

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>>174520317
>For the price of your lord I brought 100 dudes with the Strength in Numbers special rule that outnumbers your entire army

have fun

>>174520487
They're pretty shit though. Also I think they de-value the hippogriff lord mounts.

>>174520464
there're plastic sisters. Celestine and her two lesbian angel wossnames

that's more than enough

>>174520568
Wait, I don't play the multiplayer. I'm guessing they're a case of a big investment that doesn't get much return?
In singleplayer I love to just ram them into the back of the enemy elite infantry (chosen, greatswords, black orcs) and have them go ham, but of course singleplayer stuff often doesn't work against real people.

>>174520764
Yeah they're just lackluster for the price.
Royal pegasus knights are really good though.

For the Warhammer lore buffs, out of curiosity, who wins in a fight between a Grail Knight and a Champion of Chaos? How close would it be? How much does it change if they're both mounted?

>1.5 still not released

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>It's just a rat

RATMEN NOT CONFIRMED FUCK

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>>174514258
>Teclis, the saviour of the world
>Malekith, epitome of evil and madness
Ah yes. Make way, Druchii fucking shits!

>>174520546
>100 dudes who can't touch your lord, can be flanked and lose rank bonus anyway and who can easily be avoided totally negating their only worth as a tarpit

there's a reason skaven don't get anywhere in tournaments, its hard to imagine what kind of autist could still be spouting this shit.

>>174521164
lore-wise it's a legendary duel between two warriors evenly matched, as their gods surely clash in heavens
and the one of purer faith and truer conviction wins

seriously

>>174521164
Stats-wise, if both are mounted, generally the Champion wins fairly handily but champions are hero choices and grail knights are just jobbers in a unit. Between Chaos knights and Grail Knights, Chaos knights win every time.

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>>174521367
Fucking cool

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>>174521324
If your lord engages my slaves instead of my artillery or other weapons thats a win for me, kill as many as you like since you cannot kill them all before the game ends. Your core options on the otherhand will be drowned out and eventually WS2 and S3 will win even against chaos warriors. Also most lords are T4 I will eventually hit and kill you or you are wasting an expensive lord as I said.

>>174521164
Chaos characters are nuts

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Chaos seem OP

>>174521820
note: chaos dudes can have strong faith and conviction. I didn't mean that Grail Knight will always win.

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>forgot to equip frenzy banner

Every time

>>174522001
You don't need to kill them, Skaven aren't particularly mobile and their units are extremely vulnerable. Only way those slaves get into combat is if they are charged. Don't get me wrong, I play Skaven, but skavenslaves being OP is a grotesque fucking relic of sheer autism.

>>174522068
I gathered as much. Simply if such a battle took place I would root for the Knight.

>>174522232
>M5 across board, except when it's M6
>ain't particularly mobile
indeed

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>>174522059
>mark of Khorne on Sigvald

I know they won't do it, but I hope CA balance changes multiplayer, I'm a huge fan of playing really aggressive Dwarfs, and the only viable non (muh artillery camping) build there is right now is vanguard rush.

I just want Dwarfs to feel fun. How do you think we can actually make them work though. I'd like Gyro buffs and some way to remove net so they can be semi-viable vs empire.

>>174522341
>what are daemons
>what are high elves
>what are ogres

just stop anon.

>>174522586
>what does it all matter when you get to humiliate dwarf players

you must get your priorities straight as a skaven player

>>174522341
boku no cavalry

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>>174522440
then pick someone else. Dwarfs are the lowest MP tier but they will always be too slow to be a good aggressive faction. Canons are hilariously bad and should be they way dorfs bleed out their opponents and deal with big threats.

The units you have to protect right now don't do enough work to invest and protect them. That and with AP armored infantry everywhere and being better than yours Dorfs are lacking an infantry advantage they would otherwise see since Longbeards are core while everyone else's armored AP infantry are limited.

At the same time if dorfs are too good that would be a lot worse

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>>174516791
:^)

>>174517448
this game fucking sucks

>>174517592
AoW3 sea battles were funny though

>>174522941
>animals put in a box to kill each other on film
>Chinese text on the screen

Savages, the lot of them.

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Holy shit, I probably had one of the best beginnings in my very hard Bretonnian campaigns. I basically beelined toward Skullmasherz settlement on turn 2, disgustingly cheesed them with cav to death and got minimal losses, when I usually lose like half of my army in that battle.

After that, I was able to besiege Marienburg and starved them to death, and the campaign went full comfy after that, I safely confederated Artois, Lyonesse and Bastonne, while making a fucking bank with Marienburg peace treaty. Easily dispatched Mousilon when their Grave Guard spam stack got owned while trying to capture Lyonesse, turn before I confederated them. After that, I had a pretty big fight against leftovers of Red Duke army and Mousilon garrison outside of city gates and easily captured it.

Amusingly, for some weird as fuck reason Skaelings asked for peace when I was sieging Marienburg and been willing to pay handsomely for that, I just don't know what the fuck is going on, these fucks never asked for peace before.

It's turn 27 and for the first time, I'm not getting fucked from every possible direction.

>>174523174
they are shit

>>174523420
In ten turns when your ceasefire expires you should launch an expedition to Norsca and torch the chaosshits to the ground. Brettonia is uniquely well-suited to this because King Louen orders them to stop dying of frostbite and chaos and they do.

>>174521274
That's bullshit and you know it

>>174523853
It's going to be Norsca.

>>174522941
>adult rat vs baby crocodile
>baby crocodile isn't even close to weight of rat
>crocodile without any heat source

real fair fight, though rats are pretty tough.

So I just got finished with my VH/VH Dwarf Campaign and want to do a VH/VH Greenskin campaign?

Any tips for that campaign? I heard tunnel-boss skill and forcing underway battles is a good tactic in the early game, but what else?

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>>174523628
I'm already at war with them, they got invited back by Skarsnik, which is kinda amusing. Just a fucking weird campaign all around, Wood Elves got owned by Carsaconne and lost their starting province, which got razed and then resettled by another elf faction so they virtually eliminated from the game and only stuck with Oak of Ages and literally can't do anything because they can't spawn army.

Talabheim declared war on Secessionists, beelined toward Helmgard while losing their starting province to Ostland and now they stuck between me and Empire. Karl probably will confederate them later.

Boris got destroyed by Nordland (!!!). Aren't they supposed to be allies from the beginning?

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>>174524123
Ignore the first question mark that somehow got there.

>>174519009
And instead of giving the devs the time they needed to fix it, they decided to simply push it out half finished.

>>174524123
Why do you put it as a question

Why do you put

>So I just got finished with my VH/VH Dwarf Campaign and want to do a VH/VH Greenskin campaign?

As a question

>>174524238
Yeah, Nordland and Middenland start the game as Defensive Allies.

>>174524110
It's like they went out of their way to make it unfair.
>adult vs. sub-junior
>no weight limit

Why would the dark elves want to disrupt the Vortex?

They aren't Chaos people like the Chaos Dwarfs or Rats or Beasts, are they?

>>174524601
It's said that one faction wants to seize control over it in order to gain power. That's disrupting it in a way.

>>174524601
If you ignore 8th ed DElves which CA is clearly doing by recreating the true evil Malekith they really aren't that far off from being one.

They even have a unit that makes Slaanesh sacrifices on the regular and Malekith has used Chaos Warriors and daemons as buddies from time to time, except Valkia who kicked their teeth in while Archaon was securing one of his items I forget which.

>>174524791
But even during 8th edition and The End Times Malekith used daemons. He killed Finubar by summoning a Bloodletter to his chamber.

>>174525030
Ya then he was just a "misunderstood guy who had shitty things happen to him" and then everyone save Tirion is A-OK with Malekith taking the throne and uniting all 3 elves. Easily the worst part of End Times stuff that really tanks it while the rest was ok albeit really rushed.

Going back to old bastard Malekith is a better move, especially for gameplay

>>174524791
It wasn't an item it was the altar of ruin or some shit which basically gave him the mark of all the Gods, and I think it was more Morathi or Hellebron that got trashed since they wanted it for sorcery purposes.

>>174525030
DE are pretty chaosy but Malekith is less so, he still actually cares about being the rightful king of the elves and going through the flames of asuryan.

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>>174521184
>make comment related to anything that is a possible release date (which we will not get) or just the release in general
>comment gets deleted
Wew devs
we're talking about the m2 mod right?

>>174522941
>rat goes for the eyes
truly the niggeriest rodent

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>>174519325
Memers btfo.

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>>174525552
not really, he's a dick that wants ultimate power. He ain't going to touch the stove twice either after murdering a pheonix king, getting called out as a traitor and searing himself to almost death

>>174521305
>M-muh rightful phoenix king!

>auto-resolve only naval combat
>in a game spanning 3 continents separated by the notAtlantic
>featuring 2 factions known for their elite navies, one of which utilizes castle-sized ships, and the other living on an island

Boy it sure will be fun sinking all of the dark elf armies that try to attack ulthuan in epic autoresolve battles

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>haven't touched Warhammer in over 2 months

Game is so fucking boring. The entire marketing campaign for the game at this point is the addition of new races, and nothing else.

Can't believe people like such a shallow experience.

>>174514727

It's like they're told to use buzzwords as much as possible

The bald glasses guy repeats "visceral" so often I stopped listening to him

>>174522941
They should put two chinese into a small glass box and have them fight to the death, chinese are truly inhuman, more like a race of soulless insects. Empathy is foreign to them, cruelty is not

>>174526179
Malekith still acts as a limiting force on the chaotic nonsense Dark Elves get up to. He enforces peace among his realms and prevents the murder of his top subordinates by anyone but himself. He's the true Jacobite candidate and he has only been undone so far by cruel fate or the incompetence of craven underlings.

>>174526592
Why would you come to this general then.

>>174526592

I have to agree

Even bretonnia which is the ONLY faction that has something unique compared to Attila is boring as fuck because of the shallow campaign

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>>174526592
>been waiting for new computer parts to arrive so I can play warhammer with reasonable frames
arrives tomorrow

>>174526736

To make you pull your hair out from your hugbox being invaded.

>>174526828

Exactly. The new race flavor dies out really quick. This could be a game you play for months and months, and now it's a game you try for a week every once in a while. Whatever.

>>174526523
It was like that until Empire and we did alright.

>>174526934

Hopefully the expansion will have some more innovative campaign mechanics, I wasn't expecting Attila chopped up when I bought this

>>174522941
>>174523183

You guys are acting like nobody besides Chinese people do this. You can go out right now and buy feeder rats for snakes right now, you know.

>>174526934
sounds like you are the one looking for a hugbox anon.

>>174527201
He also got a lot of viewers from Brazil.

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>>174526934
What about Attila's 50 shades of barbar all playing the exact same and the same victory conditions aside from Slavs "build a huge totem poll"

Of all the TW games this general shills Attila, which was a shitty game no one else liked. Once Emperor Edition was released no one played Attila for its terrible balance, shit looks, poor performance, dull setting, and boring factions aside horsefuckery.

I can understand the appeal of S2, R2, Napoopan and the nostalgia of M2 but the Empire and Attila love I will never understand

>>174527201

>There's no difference between putting two animals in a cage to rip each other up just for keks and feeding an animal that needs to eat the only food it wants to eat

>>174527456
Would you feed me if my only sustenance came from souls?

>>174527201
actually illegal in the uk to buy live food, though obviously if you just buy a hamster and feed it to your snake they can't do much about it. It's also illegal to use live bait in fishing matches.

>>174527437

They don't play the same, they might have similar gameplay in battle but the campaigns are vastly more interesting than anything Warhammer has to offer.

Tanookis were the most fun I ever had in a TW campagin

>>174527586
Can you get away with freezing pinkies to feed your snake?

>>174527437
Nobody loves Empire, they just like the Naval combat. R2, even with Emperor edition, is still comparatively shit. Attila is literally R2: But this time we actually cared Edition. The only thing R2 has over Attila is setting.

>>174516657
the thanquol books / gotrek and felix

also death master snikch

>>174527586

Isn't giving live feed to snakes stupid anyway?

A rat can bite fucking hard, if the snake doesn't get a good grip right away I imagine the rat could hurt it pretty badly.

>>174527813
Setting, balance, frames, factions. Attila battles were charge impact simulators that ran like hot trash. The MP community died and went right back to R2 for better fights. Attila accomplished nothing. It sold like molded bread to boot. Thats why you saw nothing but R2 battles on the Tuber until the Hams.

>>174528108
>Thats why you saw nothing but R2 battles on the Tuber until the Hams.

stop posting anytime

>>174528038
It is unless it's too small to bite properly. You'd want to make sure the rat is somewhat pacified first at least, because it can damage a snake pretty bad given the chance.

>>174528038

> There are several reasons why it is best for the snake hobbyist to feed pre-killed prey exclusively, but the most important is for the safety of the snake. Mice and other rodents are fast, smart and have lethal teeth. Snakes, on the other hand, are slow, stupid and can only kill by constriction. If, for whatever reason, the snake decides that it does not want to eat a live food animal, the prey animal is very capable of turning on the snake and killing it. Even if the snake is willing to feed, it will very occasionally make slight mistakes in its attack--it may grab the rodent by the wrong end, or it may miss in its initial strike, and even a slight opening is enough for the mouse to counter-attack. Live mice will fight for their lives when they are seized, and will bite, kick and scratch for as long as they can. Every experienced snake keeper can tell stories of snakes who have been severely bitten and injured by live food animals, and most snake collectors have at least one snake who has the scars to prove it.

> An unfortunate lesson from my own snake experiences may help to drive home and emphasize the point about feeding live prey animals. When I first began keeping snakes, I had a beautiful young five-foot Reticulated Python who, unlike most members of her species, was calm and tractable and easy to handle. One day, I opened her cage and plopped a nice fat live hamster inside to feed her, as I had done routinely at least several dozen times before. The Python promptly seized the hamster by the side of its body, but failed to get a good grip and hesitated for barely a moment. Whereupon, in an instant, the hamster, with its last bit of energy before it went into shock, turned and bit the snake squarely in the skull. Within seconds, both were dead. Ever since, all of my snakes get pre-killed prey exclusively.

Cold bloods B T F O

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>>174514258
>malekith
>epitome of evil
gawt damn lil bitches i will culturally educate you about morality

>>174528364

>five-foot Reticulated Python
>Bit to death by a hamster

lul

>>174528038
Yep a lot of pet snake species wouldn't ever try to eat something like a rat, and feed mostly off mice, chicks, frogs and eggs so a live rat could handily kill them especially since they would be trapped in a small area and don't have the element of surprise or the cover of night. Most live feeders have pretty big boas and the like though.

>>174527743
I don't know, you mean like breeding pinkies yourself and freezing them? You can't buy live pinkies but maybe you could breed them and kill them since that is what pet feed companies must do.

>>174528253
You can post any actual argument, if you had one.

Online communities are a good measure of a game's success. The TW youtubers played it, hated it, did the lego WRE run, and went back to R2 and waited for Warhammer. So did most TW players.

If Warhammer would have flopped as hard, CA would be packing their shit right now.

>>174526523
if CA was based they'd make it easily moddable

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AYO HOL UP
>tortures victim profusely
SO HOL UP HOL UP
>raids Nordland
SO U BE SAYIN
>sharpens sword
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
>sharpens shield
AYYYOOOO SO U BE SAYIN
>dons man-skin cloak
U BE SAYIN
>whips dwarf slave
HOL UP HOL UP
>raids Tiranoc
AYYOO U BE SAYIN
>bathes in cold one slime
SO U BE SAYIN
>sharpens helmet
HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN
>hires assassins
WE WUZ
>serves on black ark
FINNA WE WUZ
>gets murdered by shadow warrior
AYYYOOO HOL UP WE WUZ
>loads crossbow
SO WE WUZ
>instinctively looks around for witch elves
SO U SAYIN WE WUZ
>freezes to death
SOM FINNA
>breaks before the Griffon Gate
SO WE WUZ
>tames manticore
SOM FINNA
>is violated by kharibdyss
AYYOOO SOM FINNA
>worships Slaanesh
HOL UP
>violates kharibdyss
WE WUZ
>slips poison into your food
SOM FINNA
>plots to overthrow Malekith
WE WUZ
>consorts with greenskins
SOM FINNA
>raids Karak Eight Peaks
HOL UP MUH DRUCHII
>drinks maple syrup
U SAYIN WE WUZ
>casts doombolt
SOM FINNA
>sleeps with mother
FEENIX KANGZ N SHEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT?
>is sacrificed upon the altar of Khaine

>>174527437
>Attila, which was a shitty game no one else liked

speak for yourself - did attila kill your mother or something?

>terrible balance
attila has impact damage, rome 2 has melee/precursor spam

>shit looks
lack of pissfilter makes anything in attila look much better than rome 2

>poor performance
fair point

>dull setting
subjective

>boring factions
subjective, although later flc/dlc fixed this somewhat

Its a total war that takes place in antiquity during a very interesting time period that was well polished


>>174528602
>Online communities are a good measure of a game's success

not for a singleplayer strategy game you utter fucking retard

>>174528392
that's a sorceress

the Delves have two flavors of sluts

>>174526592
I'm hoping TWWH2 changes up the grand campaign much like Attila did Rome 2

>>174526592
>Can't believe people like such a shallow experience.
speak for yourself - did warhammer kill your mother or something?

>>174528803
hope the vortex campaign does this. really liked the bret and skarsnik campaign for their narratives.

>>174528785
I think the setting is a little less subjective than you might think. It just isn't a period that is popular in academic circles or popular culture and I doubt very many people who played the game are now fans of the period either.

>>174517067
Naval with canons and guns is fun

It's shit when all the fun tools are removed and you can only ram with ships

>>174528803
I am pretty hopeful for TWW2 given that the follow up games for historical titles have mostly been an improvement or changed the game up in a good way (Napoleon, Atilla, FoTS)

>>174527618
>They don't play the same, they might have similar gameplay in battle but the campaigns are vastly more interesting than anything Warhammer has to offer.
I find them to be the same desu. except maybe something like skarsnik or bretonnia

>>174528785
>no one else liked it
look at player numbers

>bad balance
more people thought infantry fights were more interesting that charge impact damage; player numbers and online content, levy freemen were a mistake

>shit looks
yes the pajama total war looked like shit and ran like shit

>dull factions
greeks, romans, and celts were clearly more interesting than horsefuckers and the romans and barbars were done better in R2; again player numbers can prove that

If Attila was so good why did no one buy it? Why did no one make online content for it? Why did it not beat the once broken R2 in player base? Can't say it was R2's fault either otherwise people would have moved to Attila.

Also i think online communities is fair for a single player game because if no one is talking about it, no one is playing it, vice versa.

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>>174526523
>>174528696

Isn't the absence of naval battles because there's already a separate game about that out?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/344240/

Not saying this shit is excusable.

>>174529559
thought it was because they didn't have the license

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>>174529559
if CA was BASED they'd make it EASILY moddable in spite of Games Workshops' archaic business practice
like a lil button that says, "yes pls naval battle upon engagement when in sea instead of autosolving"
of course we'd have to create the models and naval units because fuck CA/SEGA/GW but at least we'd have it

>>174529652
They don't have the license, is the point, and its currently held by another company developing a game based entirely on naval combat. It's doubtful GW will allow CA to directly compete against another one of their products.

And really for a mechanic that the average TW player couldn't care less about.

>>174525734
>Wew devs
yes?

>>174529701
Wouldn't work. GW has heavy restrictions on mod content and they can force CA to pull the plug on all modding support if they don't like what they see.