/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 Shin Megami Tensei General

I FUCKING LOVE FUTABA'S STINKY NEET SMELL!

Goro is the killer.

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Is this the first trans SMT character?

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What do we do Serph?

>>174339930
Rend, Slaughter and Devour.

>>174339930
"..."

>>174339987
>ywn devour Makoto
Just fuck my shit up bros

>>174339930
Sojiro looks so proud

>>174339808
stinky neet feet?

>>174339930
I dunno the one that gets you heat I guess

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I want to be the wind that flows through Dagda's glorious mane.

>>174339930
bunch a fuckin downies

>Got my hands full trying to remove buffs and smirks from YHVH second form
>He just oneshots my party at neutral with allmighty attack
Am I just underleveled? Any tips? I don't know if going full-out buff war will be a winning strategy when He can just lower me to -3

>>174340430
he has a cycle, so you can get to +2 in before the next dekaja

let the samurai die once flynn fishes a phys weakness

>>174340430
If you're not in the mid 90's, your underleveled. Get Doping.

>>174340430
Also, do tetrakarn and imposing stance work here since the party changes?

Riot Gun or Myriad Arrows?

>>174340713
Yes

>>174340329
But that's what he wants to be, asshole

What time does atlus put dlc up? I know the p1/2 and if sets are supposed to go up today but they're not on the store yet
>I'm actually considering buying the p1 one
>objectively kind of terrible song
>uniforms not that visually interesting or nice
>dlc is overpriced
>still want it
I don't understand myself and think I might have stolkholm syndrome or something, send help

>>174341680
well, the P1 battle theme did give birth to the greatest thing to ever come from this general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sLyra1MjZk

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Pixie looks so delicious

https://strawpoll.com/axyzec9

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>Want to make a Demonee-ho for IV:A
>Want to keep Blank Bullet on him, but Riot Gun is much better together with Desperate Hit because of Smirk

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>>174342842
Can't wait for Potter-kun to get a billion more retarded spin-off games

Persona 5 Arena is alright

>>174341987
True, I'm pretty sure that's responsible for at least part of my fondness for it lol
Too bad this isn't the version in p5, then it would be an automatic purchase!

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This is a nice remix https://youtu.be/F-wfTF-3QZg

>>174341987
Leaves in falling manly

>>174343654
DLC is up
Did end up getting the p1 set if anyone wants like... shitty cellphone pics lol

>>174340738
Myriad Arrows or Desperate Hit. Them crits.

>>174343692
Agreed.

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>>174343498
Why not Castlevania?
I mean, it'd need just a handwave excuse, setting has most of mechanics like power from enemies, levels, changeable elemental affinity, can even have quests like Ecclesia to replicate the SLinks.
Plus you already have all of the designs for mooks.

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FAILURE OF A SAVIOR is my favorite SMT thing aside from music

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>>174340753
Did it. Samurai died while I only got Fire to weak. Which was fine since I got a team full of Aginukes and Flynns party was a hinderance anyway.

Is the DLC worth it?

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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

rip smt aesthetics

>>174348983
I'd kill for a Persona spin-off with that kind of gameplay.

>last phase of tico fight
>they use that almighty move from across the map 3 times before I get a turn to heal
alright this isn't worth an achievement

>>174339914
How high was Kaneko when he designed this garbage?

>>174351170
no mt2 no vote

How do buffs work in DDS?
Single timed application or permanent with 3 stacks?
Also does Luck do anything?

>>174353740

I would argue not high enough if anything

>>174355450
Same as Nocturne AFAIK

>>174351170
I love the general aesthetic and presentation of SMT2 but I'm too much of a faggot to be truly enjoy RPGs that old.

How did they manage to make Amane the best Law Rep and the best girl?

>>174357225
>best Law Rep and the best girl
She's neither, though.

>>174357225
She wants the MC's demon dick

>>174357181
I played SMT 1 and I still haven't gotten around to actually playing SMT 2. It just feels way slower and clunky in comparison. I guess I need to grind it out more before I'm used to it

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>>174357225
They just did.

>>174357225
Because Yasuda had some self control with the boob size.

>>174355450
Luck does the same in every game.
Increases crit chance, and increases chance of casting/dodging hama, mudo and ailments.

>>174357181
>tfw had more fun playing SMT 1 then P3

Jesus the gameplay of P3 is fucking horseshit. The story only kicks in like after 50% of the game dungeons are boring. How did P3 get so populor? i see P4 with everyone on your dick, the one note "anime cliche" characters and the happy upbeat murder mystery but how did P3 get so famous?

>>174358395
The problem is that in some games you really don't notice much increase in Crits or Hama/Mudo hitting/dodging. You're better off equipping the Critical chance increasing passive rather than buffing Luck in DDS. At least from my experience.

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>>174348983
Best Shin Megania ever

>>174358617
it was completely unique and surprised everyone. I agree that it aged really bad but back then it was really good. Also it was the point where SMT got big, an entry point for many and couldnt compare it to other smt games .

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>>174358617
P3 was radically different from previous games. SLs, dating sim elements, the JPOP soundtrack, the overall aesthetics and presentation, etc made it stand out.

>>174358618
I guess it depends on the game. Crit chance always seems to be the most evasive action unless you really go crazy at dumping points into luck, but even in games where I didn't prioritize it like Nocturne, whenever I was getting hit too often by insta-kill spells or ailments, dumping a point or two into luck always helped.

Although luck is way more useful in classic style games where your summoner doesn't learn spells and he can always be a reliable item dispenser who can dodge everything thanks to high luck.

>>174358617
Because setting a JRPG in a comtemporary setting was fresh and most people in the west have not played dating sim style games so the social link shit was a new experience for them.

Futaba is a smelly fucking neet who fucks Slimes for free.

>>174359047
Honestly, of all the times I played Nocturne and DDS I didn't notice much difference. Unlike with SMT IV and IVA where you notice the boost in Crits starting with 20~30 Lu or SH where the evasion rate and whatnot was very noticeable.

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>>174359239
Don't talk shit about my little sister

>>174358617
It didn't. The most successful P3 game is P3P and it only sold well because of P4.

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>>174358827
Yea you guys got a point. I still wish the gameplay wast ass so I can play it again to see how the cast is. I played P4G again to see how it compares to P5 after it came out and man, I gotta say the cast of P4 are kinda shitty/pure fan service. As "bland" as some people say the cast of SMTIV is, I found them far more intresting then Chie or anyone else in the IT

>>174358395
Yeah, but it's more useful in some games, like SMT4 and P4.

>>174358884
Do you have the edit with Aigis and MC?

Also yeah, I genuinely enjoy the time management aspect where you juggle between hanging out with people and getting to know them, increasing your stats, and and tackling a seemingly endless dungeon with Nocturne-lite mechanics.
Not to mention the music.
I NEVER FELT LIKE

>>174359496
P4 is an odd duck even by Persona standards. Lie I wrote in the last thread, P4 has a great story theme but the writing and gameplay itself is garbage. And most of the main characters and SLs are terrible or redundant. Only Dojima, Kanji and Ai really stood up in terms of interesting writing.

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>>174359591
>Do you have the edit with Aigis and MC?
Got neither, sorry my man.

BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

I honestly can't take people complaining about P4 characters seriously anymore when Makoto is the most acclaimed character from P5

>>174359748
Kanji is the ONE P4 party member I can say, I liked. I forgot my feelings for Rise and Naoto but I hated everyone else. Dojima is great but I never did Ai's slink

The Slinks in P4, for the most part are so fucking boring or shit. Comparing it to P5 in which all but like 2 Slinks are great. and the 2 arent even bad just kinda meh.

I forgot how good/bad P3 is with the expection of Moon and magican since Moon was awfull and magican was so fucking boring. Aigies and Elizabeth slink was cool.

>>174360110
> when Makoto is the most acclaimed character
Thats just wauifu fags anon. I dont think she is that bad though. But no where near my favorite party member.

Yusuke > Anne=Ryijuu > Futaba > gap > Morgana =Makoto

I havent done Haru's slink so no comment

>>174360110
Still haven't touched P5. What's wrong with Makoto? Or are even any of the characters any good?

>>174360351
I'm biased but I think Haru is amazing.

Anne and Ryuji have probably the most grounded and consistent good writing though. Overall the P5 cast feels like a significant upgrade over 4

>>174360376
Nothing wrong with Makoto per see but she gets pushed pretty strong as canon interest and is most popular girl right now. Thats where the usual shitposting starts rolling. I do agree that she is overrated but still good character and useful healer

>>174359748
I personally didn't mind yosuke, chie and yukiko.
Sure, the themes in their slinks were pretty simplistic, but they were still nice small stories.
The only character I actively dislike from 4 is Naoto.

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>>174360376
She becomes the brains for a while and is the most populor girl for waifu fags. She ist bad, she gets her turn in the mud, and she fucks up at times and goes through struggles. So she ist a mary sue. Marie from P4G is a mary sue. Everyone at the geckgo loves her. Makoto straight up calls one of your teammates a slut and you and your boy delinquents so for a while your whole team hates her.

She is a good character but highly overated.

Everyone in the cast of P5 is good. Unlike P4 in which I hated most of them or P3 where I only liked a few. The cast of P2 is still the best though.

Personafags should fuck off back to /pg/.

>>174361039
Also anyone who hates Ryujii is dumb. like the other anon said Ann and Ryujii are the most grounded characters of P5 and are very well written together.

Unlike Chie and buttmonkey where every interaction with the buttmonkey is just phsical abuse/slipstick, this pair are and actually act like friends and not alien robots.

>>174361039
A lot of Makoto's fandom are people who made their minds up about her before even playing the game because she appeals to their fetishes.

Makoto isn't that bad but she's definitely the weakest written member of the PT and her slink feels really lazy because 80% of it has nothing to do with her.

>>174361184
It's mainline because of Raidou

>>174361306
Her slink is one of the worst ye. Atleast Ann(e) is about her wanting to put some effort in for once and we get to see the weeb side of her. Ryujii is another boring one as well.

These 3 slinks are the worst but are still better the ALOT of the ones in P4 and P3 and are more on the meh side then the shit side

>>174361184
P5 is alot more SMT then P3/P4 and I promise you guys, P5 babies will go to SMT after fighting classic SMT demon desighns you just cant go back to fighting those lazy as fuck shadow designs.

Smug thief of many sales saved us and Persona just wait

>>174362042
the end part was basically chaos route lite version

>>174362319
>using the power of humanity/twitter to row row fight da powa and shoot Not!YHVH face off

Shit was fucking hype. But that would be more neutral desu but a Persona protag being a servet of Luis Cyphre is funnier

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When will Mara stop appearing in Megaten, it isn't funny anymore

>>174362191
>spoiling nocturne
Impossible this game has no story to spoil

Also fuck off faggot

>>174362636
In the SMT x Switch trailer they hid Mara in that demon crowd I thought it was funny that nintendo showed the whole wide world, a monster penis

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>>174362720
Mara is a global phenomenon.

>get to Ikebukoro
>head straight to main hall
>get captured and jailed
>beat first two bosses easily
>fight Thor
>all of my demons are weak to elec
>die
>load state
>Ginza Underpass
Fuck me man
I'm actually fucking retarded for not realizing sooner that Thor would be electric

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>>174363698
>using save states

>>174363782
I meant save
I promised myself I wouldn't use save states for the authentic SMT experience but I am really regretting it

>>174363698
Why lad? There's a save right in Ikebuoro.

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Why haven't they gotten Yasuda to do art for Megaten since Devil Survivor?

>>174365830
Because the dude sucks.

>>174365830
He should stick to Devil Survivor desu

I liked DeSu2 alot even though the writting ist as good as overclocked I wanted more survival and less "living in a nice base" in DeSu 3. I fucking love Sprgs

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>>174365830
ANTI-GRAVITY TITS

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>>174365937
How come Devil Survivor looks like complete weeb shit and has writing billion times better than Apoc

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>>174366171
Yasuda didn't write the plot and neither did Doi.

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>>174365937
>writting ist

>>174366507
Some things should be felt anon.

>>174365830
he figures digimen are close enough

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>>174365830
I like Yasuda but fuck, all his art is the same shit over and over. He does make some nice clothes design but every game or manga he does looks like it's all part of the same series.

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>>174367009
I like Kaneko but fuck, all his art is the same shit over and over. He does make some nice penis designs but every game or artbook he does looks like it's all part of the same series.

>>174367451
What game series is this?
And why does the samurai doesn't have black lipstick?

>>174367009
He draws fucking hot ass women though.

Always big titties and cute faces.

>>174367451
C'mon, Kaneko at least varies enough to make each design stand out on their own.

>>174367764
I do agree on that. Ironically, in that ecchi game he designed the characters don't look so big boobed like in DeSu.

>>174367759
It's a manga cover, and he does have black lipstick on his upper lip.

I have 4000 D-Souls and Nemechi is fully evolved. I unlocked Lucifrost but Izanami isn't appearing and I'm level 90. What's going on?

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>>174363782
When is SMT getting an edit of this?

>>174369291
There is one with moh shuvuu but I don't have it.

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>>174369768
There is? The closest one I have is this.

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>>174369291

>>174359496
play persona 3 portable, it fixes the gameplay

>>174372667
I was going to but after P5 I cant. having shadows and not classic demons was such an AWFUL idea. If DDS can fit voice acting and Nocturne can be fully 3D then a game thats half VN should be able to have good enemy designs.

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No modern console to play P5 on so I think I'll kys my sorrows by playing some older game in the franchise

I don't own a 3DS either but I thought about playing devil summoner soul hackers, I saw that there's a PS1 version I could play since I can read moonrunes, how's that version compared to the 3DS one? Also overall looking for info on how "walkthrough reliant" that, or some of the other games like "if...", smt 2 or the devil survivor games are (in terms of making a non-obvious wrong choice or something that fucks up the actual route of the game like P1 would have done had I not known about it etc)

Handhelds fucked MegaTen up

>>174373865
Soul Hackers is kind of gay but it has the most fun negotiations and Nemissa is really cute

Got War Cry on Level 14 Shiisaa
Now i try to combine it with level 7 creature, why the evolve wont learn the War Cry?

>>174366171
The writers of Apocalypse couldn't make up it mind on whether it wanted to be a sequel, or a straight up reboot of IV. They were just trying to clarify the plot of IV, but didn't intend the player to agree with Dagda or the Divine Powers, and like Navarre.

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>>174366005
Poor guy

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>>174374173
Nemissa is cute! Cute!

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>>174374785
rip

>>174374948
Yeah shame the port was so lazy, Soul Hackers deserved a better fate ultimately.

>>174375163
I honestly think the writers made a mistake in making Navarre likeable. He's the only useful character in the game with his free buffs while everyone else is useless on some level.

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Chaos

> Traitor wins, the world ends

Neutral

> You oppose "YHVH" and fight for humanity's freedom, winning and your reward being sent to juvie and losing your powers

Law

> You submit to "YHVH," keep your powers, now act as an all-powerful agent of Law to maintain societal order through fear

Isn't it obvious what's best

>>174375215
At least the west could play. It had a better fate than Devil Summoner or SMT if...

>>174375614
>kenekos eyelashes
THIS is the true homage to SMT I have been waiting for

>>174375775
Doi can never recover from this.

Well just finished desu 2. Gonna go back and see the other 2 endings for triangulum, then save a 2nd sept playthrough for later.
Maybe I'll give IV another shot. I don't remember why but I dropped it really early on the first time around.

>>174375215
No port can save that mess of subsystems over subsystems.
It would've had to be a complete redesign from the ground up.

>>174377207
I love this meme. Yet if you're too spastic to bother how to learn them, you can still beat the game as if you were playing SMT.

>>174375413
fuck nevarre desu, isacute will top off my team's health after I use doping

>Muh-muh yaldabaoth P5 IS A REAL SMT
>Its actually a last minute ass pull like Izanami
Fuck you niggers

>>174377445
That doesn't make it any better.
If anything it makes it worse, like the game is letting me win without beating it.

>>174374173
>nocturne nearly kills mainline, no game in years
>handhelds responsible for fucking up megaten

>>174377583
As if SMT was hard.

SH is not perfect, but I wouldn't call it a mess just because you don't like it.

>>174378042
No, I call it a mess because it's full of poorly thought out features that you can just ignore.

>>174377558
>you kill GOD in the end, just like in the real shin mikami tension games
>(except it's just a last minute asspull like Izanami)

>negotiations are back guys! Just like in the real shin megumi tetris games
>(except they're super easy and the further you get in the game, the harder it'll be for you to fail at them)

I think everyone got memed.
At least they reintroduced guns and Kaneko's demons are back, even if they have a gay blue aura when they're on your side.

>>174378172
Fine by me then.

>>174378018
where the fuck is apocalypse nigga

smelly neet
skeet on feet

Is there any way to enjoy SMTif?
I mean, even a script would be enough.

Is there any way to enjoy SMTIV?

>>174366171
Because character design has LITERALLY nothing to do with the actual game.
Like how people complained that the anime art ruined Dawn of Sorrow and not the soul system that was padded with stupid grinding, stylus gimmicks and a worse castle.

>>174380773
In case you haven't noticed, most people are completely incapable of analyzing anything and once they dislike something they start blaming the first thing they see.

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If Matador is casual filter, then what the fuck is this guy

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What /smtg/ thinks about Kamen Rider Amazons?

Would you choose to side the Amazons, Both or Humans?

Haruka suddenly is a fucking chaosfag in the season two.

>>174381823
RNGeesus

>>174381928
I didn't know or give a fuck about it. still don't.

>>174381823
Divine Shot practice target.

>>174381928
i think it looks like something for an elementary school kid

Looking back, I wished Nanashi was just an average hunter who worked his way up the food chain. It's hard to relax or enjoy the simplest things when Dagda is breathing down his neck, or the other characters rambling about Friendship.

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>>174381928
I'm afraid I can't make that call, anon.

I'm just a passing-through Pale Rider.

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>>174359591
This what you're after?

>>174362636
It gets them publicity. When P5 released there were more than a few "LMAO this game has a giant penis demon!!! So wacky!!!" videos. It makes people aware of the brand (well, Persona at least).

I agree they gotta stop milking him for all he's worth, though. The jokes are becoming thin and watery, much like ejaculations when you jerk it too much.

>>174378359
The same could be said of Apocalypse
>you kill GOD in the end just like SMT2!
>he comes out of nowhere, is the final boss of both end routes and is defeated in one route by yelling contradictions at him like preschoolers having a debate

It's stuff that resembles classic SMT, but it's totally different in tone and presentation. Pure fanservice.

>>174386517
The same could be said of SMTII
>you kill GOD in the end just like MT2!
>he comes out of nowhere, is the final boss of all three end routes

>>174387060
Yea and? Who gives a dam my man. Enjoy the ride of Lawfags getting BTFO in a purseowner game.

>>174387060
And even in Megami Tensei 2 you don't meet YHVH until the very end. Of course, they talk about YHVH and make it clear that he is the final boss long before you fight him. That's really similar to Apocalypse, now that I think about it.

>>174386517
Why was YHVH the villain when he gave us titty monsters and mommy goddesses?

>>174387305
the godslayer to dethrone nanshi will be a monster girl lover

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If you beat pic related in DDS, are you permanently certified badass Megami Tensei player?

>>174387659
you're the true megami tensei

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>>174387414
How am I suppose to hate YHVH when he created the ultimate titty monster and mommy goddess in the form of Inanna? He was probably instilling good Christian Values into her

>>174387914
>He was probably instilling good Christian Values into her
probably instilled his godly dick in her too

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>>174387783
What about Satan in the sequel?

In the original Persona 4, does having a girlfriend actually do anything? It doesn't seem as if it's changed the interactions at all.

>>174388053
YHVH doesn't engage in sexual intercourse. He just make women pregnant instantly. It's a miracle he didn't go full hyper preg with Sarah.

>>174388368
You get a date on Christmas. Thats about it for PS2 Persona 4.

IT'S AN ALL OUT DEATH BATTLE!

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>>174388368
Persona is really bad at continuity from things like S-Links. Kind of a disappointing aspect of the newer games in the series, being all about 'relationships' that only exist in a vacuum.

I'm still mad that Dojima doesn't give a shit about our S-Link level when he interrogates me. At least change the fucking text.

Is Joker stronger than Door?

Should I go for Concentrate or Null Mind on Demiurge in IV?

I already read the faq but are there any other newbie tips for smt iv? Planning on using guns

>>174390862
is he damage or cleric?

>>174390923
All Elements+Antichion&Drains, so damage.
I could go for Repel Phys instead.

>>174390645
Door kun is canonically the only one whose managed to harness the universe tarot so I'd give the edge to him. Trying to quantify powerin such a way is somewhat foolish. By rejecting a nihilistic outlook on life door kun became impervious to nix, however since the majority or at least a large amount of people in the persona universe still desired an end he was forced to become a bulwark against the doom that nix would bring. Joker meanwhile rejected the control that was represented by Yaldy and summoned his own god of freedom to defeat him, but he did so with the help of the general population as they woke up from their own daze and rejected control just as the phantom thieves did.

>>174391443
Am not saying the ending of P5 would have been better if Potter-kun died, I loved how it ending actually, but I do want the next persona to end on a more sad note. To shake things up.

>>174391850
I think joker actually earned his happy ending. He got fucked the whole game especially right at the end. Compare that to Charlie who had basically everything handed to him from the moment he got to inaba.

I think melancholy would be fine but an Innocent Sin style, you fucked up totally ending, would probably be to depressing at the end of a 90 hour game.

>>174392159
No yea I agree with that and I wouldt wanna change the row row fight da powa
ending with anything else. And if P3 can end on a downer so can P6

I think he gets a better ending then Yu though since he lives right by his friends and either moves in with his lover or some effect.

>>174393162
It just would be nice to have a sad ending in a video games once in a while to break the monotony is my opinion

>>174393162
>>174393281
Yeah thinking back the games with the saddest endings are usually the ones that stay with you the longest. e.g. Nier P3 Red Dead

>>174393281
How would it "break the monotony" when IS, EP, 3 and even kinda 4 had a sad ending.

>>174394379
IS and EP and even 3 came out YEARS ago.
and and 4 has been remade and its spinoffs are just the happyest shit. Then SMTIV:A has the fucking bonds ending. And 4 was sad becuase you left your friends behind but its not like there dead, are you are a door or anything. You will see them again.

>>174394513
That doesn't change the fact that majority of the games in the series have had sad endings. If anything, having a happy ending is breaking the monotony.

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IT KEEPS HAPPENING!

>>174394910
don't worry, if you're in that building with the robots, it's the last you'll see of daedalus

I am playing through nocturne but when does it go from okay to great?

I am about to face Minotaur(already have but got wrecked)

I am a Pfag and I really wanna get into mainline and theres a lot I am loving of Nocturne already except a few things.

CANNOT fucking see what certain moves do, I know what a lot are because of Persona, but theres weird ones like Shibbydibbydoo and other weird shit that arent even moves I can select so I assume they are passives.

Fusing seems way harder to get right since no Arcana XP burst.

And I have 0 fucking clue on how Magamatamas really work, or what ones I should get and use, when to equip them, how they level up and give me those moves they have, WHEN they level up, etc... Cant even find a decent guide on it.

Help me.

>>174395376
>Nocturne
>Minotaur
Wut?

>>174395473
sorry, Matador.

>>174395473
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was desperately trying to remember when he showed up.

>>174395595
sixth kalpa

>>174395376
>Fusing seems way harder to get right since no Arcana XP burst.

Ye what u see is what u get barring accidents.

When you level up, depending on what magamanta you have you will get a skill. These things also increase stats and make u null/str or weak to certain things there is a guide on what they give you.

As for moves I am pretty sure it tells you if you press a butten its been years since I played Nocturne

>>174395543
kek if you are having trouble on him buff/debuff

>>174395543
Listen to the memes.
Buffs and debuffs are the way to go.

Also when a magatama is shinning and shaking, it means that you can learn new skills from it, so you should equip those at any possible instance. And if you read their affinities you can get a good idea of what kind of enemies lie ahead of you.

>>174395376
There's one that gives force immunity in the shop in the underpass. It's called Hifumi, I think.

Matador rolls over and dies when you have it.

>>174395376
Pause, go to the skills menu, look at all the skills your demons have when you see an unfamiliar one.
Lots of unfamiliar ones are probably status ailments (Tentarafoo, Shibaboo). Passives usually have "Gain/Surge", "Boost", "Resist/Null/Reflect/Absorb", "Might" in them. Some are negotiation skills; skills like Seduce let your demon recruit other demons with better effectiveness in some cases (ie Seduce is best used by female demons to male demons). Others like Nag let demons step in to help a negotiation. Don't underestimate them, negotiation can be a pain.

Magatamas shake on the selection screen which tells you that you can learn a skill from them. You learn skills when you level up AND if you're at the right level to be able to learn it. Ie "Gaia" might teach "Media" at level 10, so if you're level 9 and have it equipped you get nothing, but at level 10 and upwards you can choose to learn Media upon level-up.

https://twitter.com/cj_iwakura/status/854503421780652033
soon

>>174397962
Not confident right here.

>>174397962
time for two more projects

>>174397962
Considering If... has been at 80% for 2 years, I'm not holding my breath. Hopefully it will be finished in my lifetime.

>>174397962
You can learn japanese before it's finished.

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>>174397962
I'll probably learn enough japanese to play the jp version before this even releases.

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>>174399135
>>174399173

>>174399135
>>174399173
Atlus USA are gonna beat them to it with a re-rerelease, just you wait and see.

What do you do with maxed out personas in Persona 1?
Everyone else is to busy talking about 5 to answer

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WHOA, is this a big patch for MT2 I see incoming?

I guess beating Beelzebub without null death is just as impossible in DDS1 as it was in Nocturne.

>>174400273
Amen-Ra: grind that shit to rank 8 so you get Hieroglyphein for the final boss.
Everyone else: who cares lol

>>174400346
If you are actually the MT2 guy then godspeed.

>>174401105

Yeah anon, that's me. I've been mia, and my website died, but this is still being worked on.

>>174400273
return them to igor for items
gives you incenses, weapons and fusion totems

>>174400346
>that M
It's like someone typing in bold capitals and then un-bolding for every m. Guess that's NES character size limitations for you.

Good luck with your project, Anon.

>>174401019
I mean literally
Do I just delete them or what? The game explains dick all and I just kinda roll with the mechanics that I already know
>fucking game crashed right after I got to Dr. Whatever and pressed the red button
I'm pretty pissed

>>174401256
delete them for items babe

>>174401256
My bad, I thought you meant ultimate Persona.

You can return them but I just rolled with the same 5 for almost the entire game because they were always usable.

>>174401247

There's only so little you can do when there are a set amount of allocated bytes per demon name, ability, etc.

BALAM for example only requires 4 characters in Japanese, so there's only 4 bytes free for him, which is why I redrew 2 Japanese characters as "LAM" to fit "B" "A" and "LAM" into 4 bytes.

Sadly I don't know the slightest about rom expansion yet.

>>174401328
>>174401241
thanks
Shame that Nanjo's leaned a heavy dmg

>>174401597
That's a clever workaround.

>tfw persona won

>>174401231
Last time I checked /vr/ was really excited for the game too, so you could always drop by if you feel like it.

>>174401105
>>174400346
Not to be a fag but if KMT2 is translated why work on MT2? Any difference or just for the sake of SMT history?

Why not work on Majin tensei I need more SMT SRPGS

>>174402126
Won what?
Famitsu top games of 2016?

>>174402126
SMT was never good they needed a dating sim to distract people long enough to enjoy it.

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>>174385859
YES

>>174402559
MT2 looks cooler.

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>>174403368
>SMT was never good

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The four Jack Frost.

>>174402126
Futaba won the waifu wars...

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WE WON GUYS

Why has nobody translated the Raidou version of Nocturne? I'm assuming that aside from the Dante/Raidou parts, all the other text is the same.

does anyone else think that the music in strange journey is poorly structured? I don't know how to really describe it. Nothing goes together well, the drums are off tempo with the melodies and the choir is disturbing to listen to

>>174405164
>why has nobody done hundreds of hours of unpaid work to get a slightly different version of already translated game

I love Jack Frost.

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You know I was wondering about asking what SMT you would recommend to a complete fucking retard but smirked realising this is a franchise that is 100% anti-casual.

>>174407289
Demikids

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>>174407289
It's not that bad you asshole, go play IV on the easiest difficulty until you get to Tokyo and then turn it up to normal. Do a MAG build too. You need to have brain damage to die in that game.

>>174407289
I wouldn't say 100%. Persona and Demikids were specifically made for casuals. Last Bible was too, but I think that's too old for the casuals of today to enjoy it.

>>174407398
Yeah but retards would get lost in Tokyo map

>>174407289
>smt is hard
where did this meme originate? smt games are usually pretty easy and noob friendly

Anyway, Id recommend starting with KMT1&2. They introduce you to the fundamentals. Then continue on to SMT1 and SMT2

>>174405369
The music is supposed to be unsettling and put you on edge, you're exploring a hostile and alien environment.

>>174407289
Persona 4.
Persona 5 on safe would also probably be pretty retard-accessible and at least you'd get exposure to negotiation in some form.

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>>174408182
> Where did this meme originate?

Because the challenge is what the franchise is known for and why it doesn't sell as much as garbage like Final Fantasy?

Obscenely high random encounter rate, vague objectives, ludicrously difficult puzzles, family unfriendly stories, almost every boss feeling like they would be the final boss of different JRPG series.

I like it all though

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>>174378018
>maken x is a megaten game

What the fuck?

>>174408182
I think it's because a lot of people who are into jrpg are not used to the amount of thought you have to put into building your team, and that buffs and debuffs are actually important in the games.

In many other jrps team building is pretty much given in what you should have in team and buffs and debuffs only works on random encounter enemies which are so easy that you don't bother with that anyway.

>>174408182
Buffs, debuffs, instant-death and other 'useless' skills are important. Team building is important. You have to pay more attention than 'mash x to do default attacks', and you have to be more involved than 'kill every enemy' (because sometimes you need to recruit enemies etc).

>>174408564
Playing first time and just got to this guy.
Im trying to get some buff/debuff abilities to my demons and i made Shiisai which as War Cry, now i cant fusion him and teach the War Cry to someone else.
Why is that?

>>174409518
Probably because the demon you're fusing him into can't learn warcry.

>>174409565
There's this sort of restriction too...? FUCK.
How am i supposed to know what demon can even learn it then?
Im trying super hard to not use wiki on every turn

>>174409518
demons without a mouth can't use war cry or fog breath

>>174409698
Why isn't Apocalypse like that?

>>174409148
What even is this image, how does she eat? Can someone explain this?

>>174408564
Megaten is my favorite series but you really sound like a tryhard who just regergitates memes

Nocturne is destroyed with fog breath/war cry/daisoubro in general. SMTI is wrecked by zio in general. The games aren't that hard and unforgiving for the most part

Should I try SMT1 without a guide? I already forgot everything about that game.

>>174408182
SMT features random encounters that can actually kill you if you don't pay attention, and that's mainly it. Status debuffs, critical hits, and misses also tend to be quite brutal in terms of consequences.

If you compare this against other big Japanese franchises (ex. Final Fantasy, Tales), random battles tend to be more resource sinks or speed bumps rather than credible threats in a single encounter.

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>>174410842
Casuals won't even know how to make any of what you described without cheating, let alone getting to that point. Not to mention, there are no descriptions for anything.

Plus, if you ever use a guide for anything in SMT, I immediately invalidate you from beating the game in question.

>>174411261
>>174410842
imo SMT isn't really "hard" it's just less lenient.

The task required to not fail is easily achievable it's just that if you do fail you're punished harder for it. Not counting the occasional RNG fuck you.

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>>174411261
The only time I ever use a guide is after the first time through to see what shit I missed

>>174411261
I only used a guide for sector Eridanus, after I messed up my hand-drawn teleporter map and really couldn't be bothered to do it again.

>>174411413
To me and to you and to most anons on smtg yes

But to the new comer and average jrpg or average gamer it is hard. We just know what the fuck to do.

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>>174411880
Why do they even still make SMT games.

When will they give up on this shit no one but cultists buy and milk Persona for all its worth.

>>174412183
Because Cozy's ghost would show up and start the conception.

So I just have played through SJ twice on a DS emu on my smart phone, yes on my smart phone, due to the gameplay it was a wonderful experience anyhow and I now crave more Megaten for on the go and lonely nightshifts.
Thing is, my 3DS is busted and I'm not sure if I want to send it in for repairs or get a cheap 2DS just for the other Megatens on there. Whatever I do, it will take a while.

That leaves the question, DeSu 1 for DS emu on the phone or should I wait a few weeks and get Overclocked on a 3DS system?
How much would I miss out with the original? Is the additional day and demons even worth it?

>>174412281
>SJ twice on a DS emu on my smart phone
You and me both.

>That leaves the question, DeSu 1 for DS emu on the phone or should I wait a few weeks and get Overclocked on a 3DS system?
I've played 1 on an emulator. Bought Overclocked for 3DS since it was cheap (already had the 3DS). I have yet to find the actual time to play it, though.

>>174412281
Playing the 3DS extra content after beating the game is literally a god's gift.

If you've ever grinded in any SMT or spin-off game you're shit and should just go back to play Pokemon.

>>174414502
reminder that if you have to fuse completely new demons because your main team, in all it's fusions, didn't cut it at some point, you did everything wrong, are actually grinding and should kill yourself.

>>174414502
Where can I watch your neutral/law playthrough of SJ?

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>>174414840
>Fusion or recruiting demons
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>174414840
Reminder that fusing demons in general is filthy minmaxing, thus grinding, and you should kill yourself.

>>174416132
Reminder that large amounts of levelling is grinding by definition, so be sure to release your demons and replace them with weak ones if they get to high level. And then kill yourself for the disgrace you've caused for your family.

Reminder that if you use demons or anything other than normal attack, you're a scrub and you should get out of my face.

>>174416295
Reminder that attacking enemies is casual and if you can't manipulate the AI into killing itself by hitting NATURAL reflects, you need to cut your dick off and purge your whole family.

>>174416535
>>174416526
I failed to forsee you making this post about normal attacks and are not worthy anymore, I shall off myself.

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What's his Persona, /smtg/?

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RAY OF LIGHT
READY FOR A TRIP TO NOWHERE

>>174417245
Go ask Persona General

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What are your expectations for Deep Strange Journey? Will it be good?

>>174418181
Deep Strange Journey with barely any improvements and Yukiko

>>174418181
Same game with a few QoL improvements, bad art and a new bad route. It'll be fine I guess.

>>174418181
Did they say how many new demons we will have?

>>174418181
Hopefully a good port since I'm waiting to play SJ until DSJ comes out.

>>174418181
I hope they will just let you choose the source skills this time arround.
The old system was just unnecessarily annoying, since probably everyone and their dog knew you could roll again and again, once they had two viable sources for a fusion and were atleast dimly aware of what is happening on screen, atleast that's how it went for me.

Doi feet on Kaneko´s Judge/Pillar Zelenin

>tfw I only like persona 3 because it let's me pretend to be a cute schoolgirl that summons demons

>take 日本語 classes to play untranslated SMT games
>surrounded by worse than /pg/ shitposting irl
>I COULD NEVER PLAY PERSONA BECAUSE I COULDN'T WRAP MY MIND AROUND FUSION. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. I CAN'T DO IT.
>PERSONA 5 HAS THE BEST GAMEPLAY OF ANY GAME EVER

>>174419651
Do you also fuck fat guys, dogs and little kids?

>>174419860
Yes

>>174418181
I'm a humble man.
A few easter eggs on a selected few tiles among the upscaled trash and merch from delphinus and carina would be enough to make me happy.

>>174418181
Hopefully it's just a better SJ in terms of gameplay, can't have any good expectations for anything because of Yukiko tho'.

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>>174418181
I SEE THAT FUCKING HOY YOU BITCH

>>174402559

desu, KMT's ost is horrible. DDS2 is something else since it pushed the limits of NES using an external audio chip, and because of that its OST is not only a paradigm shift but also much more superior.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIO-Qat5kbA

>0:00 - 2:35 = MT2
>2:35 - end = KMT

To me, the graphics are also more aesthetic, and I'd like for myself and others to have another MT game to play since SNES already has SMT1/2 (and IF if that ever gets translated).

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I'm playing Devil Survivor 1 and is it just me, or is the music very underwhelming? The battle theme is outright awful imo.

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>>174402072

>Demon named Quetzalcoatl only uses 7 bytes in Japanese

>>174420584
>I'm playing Devil Survivor 1 and is it just me, or is the music very underwhelming?
It's shit.

>>174420726
>>174420584
Maybe you guys just aren't hip and cool enough for it?

>>174420412
Holy shit that MT2 track beats the shit out of the version with the SNES sound chip.

I can only hope one day they will all be translated.
Hell just look at Majin Tensei 2, yep another MT2, and it's early 90s rave vibe ost, another gem many wont ever hear or play. instead we got this >>174420584

>>174421553

>I can only hope one day they will all be translated.

After MT2, I might pick up those GBC ones (Book red, white and black). I've already managed to insert english text and translate their beginnings but I stopped in favour of doing MT2.

Other than that, I dunno what else I'd work on. Definitely not IF since that's 80% (albeit locked at 80).

>>174421794
>Definitely not IF since that's 80% (albeit locked at 80)

Explain, would one have to manually sprite edit the rest or what's up with that?
I have not the slightest clue about these things.

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Does every dialogue choice matter in SMT IV, or will there be Big Important Choices™ later that determine what ending you get?

>>174422421
Choices add or remove points. Negative point score leads to chaos, positive point score leads you to law, and there's about 10~ points above or below 0 that results in neutral.

>>174422421
It all matters. They all add upp towards the end.

Any spoiler-free guides to play the first SMT on SNES?

I just want to read a manual.

>>174422421
Nope it's one of those, where you either get lucky to be neutral or had planned it out all along, since every little titbit will influence your alignment, there aren't any repeatable ways to fix it and the Big Important Choice™ will only kick it into either camp if you aren't biased halfway into law or chaos and choose the opposite respectively.
If you just want to be a law or chaos fag though, things are pretty straight forward.

>>174422819
Nevermind, I checked the OP

It's under Misc. Translation

I've never done the chaos route for SJ but watched the ending is the blonde ghost lady Mem Aleph? otherwise, who is she and why would she bother you to drag the world into conan times?

>>174423041
>blonde ghost lady
It's been years since I've played SJ, but as far as I remember, no it's not Mem Aleph.

I'm not sure if you're talking about Louisa Ferre (obvious who it is) or Zelenin. Probably the first one.

SMT for Android fucking when?

>>174423713
Oh I'm a fucking asshole, never mind. I apparently never even bothered to atleast pronounce the name out loud in my head

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>>174423991
Boi.

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What happens if I say yes?

>>174424523
You die

>>174424523
Why don't you just try and see?

>>174423897
What's it and the slit eyes sucking Apples cock anyway?
You would think it not like this but it do.

And it's not a seldom example for a port of pretty obscure shit only available only on iOS either.

>>174424608
lol wow I didn't think you would really get a game over, thats bold by the developers

>>174424635
I didn't want to risk losing my progress

>>174425107
>thats bold by the developers
Actually not that uncommon in older jrpg. They had something like that literally the dialogue box before the last boss of the game.

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>>174423713
>Louisa Ferre

Why does he keep doing this?

>>174426603
Hes gotten better lately. Hikaru was a lot more subtle.

So, what's the deal with Lucifer in IV and Apocalypse?

Was it just a faker and apart of Satan the whole time or what?

>>174426862
That really killed my boner going from a cutie to handsome squidward

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...at least he had a good reason

:(

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>>174427469
Bullshit.

>>174427308
Nah mate, IV:A just took the hyperbole and made Satan the ultimate counterpart to the faggot confined in his little non euclidean pillowfort.
Meaning Lucifer but also Merkabah were the contradicting power, fused together Satan, putting up the show, the eternal war between chaos and law, in plain sight while YHVH could marvel his creation in peace without getting observed.

The observation stuff is what really matters but also fucks the story in relation to the other games.

What if someone fused Doi and Kaneko's Satan designs?

>>174427308
Just as different myths have the same deities with different abilities, the gods and demons in megaten change form and skills from one game to another.

>>174361209
>Also anyone who hates Ryujii is dumb
He's annoying as fuck. There were multiple times where I wanted an option to punch him in the face. The rest of the Phantom Thieves kept having to cover his ass after he sperged some shit out. He could hardly keep a level head and was loud as fuck, shouting "This is bullshit!" fifty times.

I'm having trouble taking smt iv seriously when navarre keeps making that one face
Can't help but laugh

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>>174429662
he's a goofball

>>174427308
Lucifer was a closeted Law Drone created to be the ultimate villain to make YHVH's side look good. That's why he subconsciously longs for order despite being the Chaos Rep in IV and Apocalypse. It's implied that everyone except Lucifer himself knows this until his defeat at the Yamato Reactor.

Belial and Luicifiuge might be aware, but they were way too faithful to Lucifer to cross him and actually bro-tier.

>>174408182
>recommending KMT and SMT1 to a casual

Are you bad from the head? The point of recommendations is to lure in people, not drive them away.

>>174420584
You are correct.

It'll grow on you, but it is only thanks to repetition.

We need more bosses like DDS2 Satan.

>>174432012
We need more MCs like Bunny

we need more demons like asherah

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We need more cash like Macca next time

>>174432256
We need more heroines like Pixie

We need more mascots like Jack Frost

>>174433317
You mean like Pyro Jack, King Frost, Frost Ace, Demonee-ho, Lucifrost, Helfrost, The whatever 5 colour Jack Frost team, Jack the Ripper and Hairy Jack?

STOP POSTING THAT CUNT MAKOTO ON /V/ YOU STUPID /POL/TARDS

parson me!

>>174433541
Yet, there isn't an lgbt frost or a YHVHfrost

>>174433541
Yes we need more. I want a Jack Frost in samurai attire.

>>174433579
>Futaba democuck strikes /smtg/
Can't wait for this autism

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>>174433579
You can't stop me from posting teen monkey

>>174433857
Figures you drumpfshits would wanna fuck a cunt, you support a orangutan one too

>>174433541
give us jack the rapper

hee ho'

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>I hate P4 characters they're fucking useless anime cliches and are there only there to suck your dick
>Makoto is best girl ASS xD she follows you reading mangooo :DD badass Buhker ;P

>>174433718
>LGBT Frost
Frost Five

>>174434737
>Finally a Jack I can relate with
Make it happen.

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>>174434761
No one is even talking about Makoto here senpai