/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 Shin Megami Tensei General

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Can someone pretty please post that beginner's guide to SMT games infographic I've seen around?

Asking for a friend. Picture unrelated.

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>>174535985
I never made that connection either.

Jesus christ.

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YOU HAVE BEEN VISTED BY THE SMUG THIEF OF MANY SALES

P4 WILL GET 100 MORE SPIN OFFS UNLESS YOU TYPE "Thank you based smug theif" IN THE THREAD

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do women find this sexy????

>>174536430
It's in the OP

>>174536430
>>174536430
Idiot its right here >>174536147

>>174536476
You mean you don't find bright red banana shaped dicks sexy?

>>174536314
Do it Raidou, kill the fucking fiend,

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>>174536430

>>174536570
>>174536558
Leave me alone nobody reads the OP on /vg/

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>>174536476
They find this guy sexier.

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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

DUN DUN DUN
(dun-dun-dun dundun)
DUNDUN DUN-DUN

Good fucking shit right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnUQlGdjIhQ

Isn't it about time to update the starter guide?

>>174537136
Sure, go ahead!

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>>174516307
>>174535810
Honestly I don't mind the Persona spinoffs. I just ignore them for the most part. What really makes me upset is the fact that Atlus is almost refusing to really experiment. With the SNES games, we got SMT If... which was different from the other games because of its unique high school setting. We also had Majin Tensei, an SRPG, and the Last Bible series, which was set in medieval times. In the PS1 era, we got the Devil Summoner games, and Persona. In the PS2 era, we got Digital Devil Saga, the Raidou games, and SMT NINE. Even Nocturne, which was a numbered game, was radically different from it's predecessors. In the DS era, we got the Devil Survivor games along with Strange Journey. There was constant experimentation along with a drive to create something new. What do we have now in this era? The only spin off games in the past 5 years have been Tokyo Mirage Sessions and endless Persona milking. What happened to the cool experimental shit that Atlus used to produce?

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>>174536450

>>174536889
>DeSu in third place
Nice. I love Srpgs when are we getting Majin tensei translated?

Does anyone have a better scan of this image?

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So, I'm aboyt to start Nocturne on Hard, and I'm wondering how I should distribute my stats, or if there are any tips I'd really benefit from knowing early on.

The only other SMT I played was Apocalypse, so from what people say, I fully expect to get fucked on.

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>>174537898
lol, this one

>>174537356
>>174536450
All I want his a P5 anime because
>Get Leouch to Voice MC
>Give him little to no lines
fucking why ?

>>174538141
The lines he does speak are pretty good though.

>>174536889
no mt2 no vote

>>174538141
Well, it's not like they can suddenly make the protagonist talk. We are always going to have silent protagonists in this series.

>Tsukiji Konganji
>Tsukiji Hongan-ji

Why did they change the names?

>>174538397
>We are always going to have silent protagonists in this series.

Don't be so sure.

>>174538397
Joker talks a lot compared to the others protagonists

>>174538457
Maybe they didn't want to offend Buddhists?
Tsukiji Hongan-ji is the correct name.

>>174538624
>> VIT/STR build for Nakajima. He cannot use Magic, but increasing INT also raises his magical resistance. INT/SPD build for Yumiko.
What if those stats are maxed

when did this
>>174536476
become sexier than this
>>174536706

>>174538765
whosmt've'nt'jdve'kajan are you quoting

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*toot*

calm down everyone

>>174539053
>Trumpeter plays the Law theme in DeSu 2

That was a pretty neat nod.

Am I the only one who likes SMTIV more than Persona 5 despite aditting the latter is the more polished game? I just like demon fusion too much desu

>>174539874
What's wrong with P5's fusion system?

>>174539957
party members can't change personas

>>174539013
The start guide for KMT 1

>>174539957
Nothing really. But I guess he likes SMT IV fusion more since you can give all the skills to any demons
>agi on jack frost
I dont like it that much but I like it more then the random shitfest in Nocturne. Final was better.

>>174539874
I like SMTIV more since it ist half "VN" but unlike P4 atleast the VN stuff is actually good

>>174539957
No search filters or compendium fusion

>>174540514
Wait, seriously? Oh God, that is going to be so frustrating.

>>174540614
you should be a an eternal grognard who uses fusion lite for everything in SMTIV

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Is Akechi /ourboy/?

>>174537356
Anyone got the original P4 version of this>?

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>>174541207
no pic related is.

I just finished reading the Tatsuya Scenario. Holy fuck, why does Atlus make him suffer 24/7?

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>>174541424

>>174537136
I would do it if I had the background picture...

>https://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=majinten
>40%
>last update 2009

FUCKING WHY

>>174542179
We live in the dark timeline.

>>174538031
L U C K

I LOVE YOU, FUTABA!

I LOVE YOU MORE THAN YHVH!

Should I go full attack mode with Cleopatra with
>Banter
>Dazzle Rat
>Light Pierce
>H. Light Pleroma
>Enduring Soul
>Drain Dark
>Concentrate
>Draconic Reaction

Or should I stick Magaon on her as none of my support-demons have it?

>>174542672
>Human waifus
hey buddy I think you took a wrong turn, /pg/ is two blocks that way

Against the advice of everybody else, I decided to start playing SMT from the first SNES game.
Am I doing something wrong? The game has so many random encounters that at times it feels like one of those FFVII parody vids, with Cloud taking one step and getting into an encounter, with that being followed by another one.
After I got to Shinjuku I have no idea where I'm supposed to be going or what I'm supposed to be doing other than finding Heroine, but none of the NPCs are being very helpful with that. I found one huge basement with shitton of rooms, and in-game map isn't really helpful at all since it rotates with you, and none of the unique rooms are marked in it. I also haven't seen actual equipment in quite some time now, and I'm rolling in like 30K yen.

Am I in bad part, or am I just bad at games? Is SMT2 better in some ways, or should I just heed the earlier advice and start with Nocturne?

>>174544178
>The game has so many random encounters that at times
Welcome to oldschool jrpgs. A lot of them has fucked encounter ratios.

>>174544178
SMT 2 didt make me use a guide for being lost. Untill I forgot how to get to the grand chapel after not playing it for a month

SMT1 is horrible at given you directions.

>>174544178
why aren't you using a guide as well? it's an old game, you'll need it

>>174544178
The encounter rate on SMT1 is ridiculously high. You can mitigate it by finding a demon with the Estoma spell. If you ever get lost, you can use a guide to figure out where to go. There is no shame in it, as long as you don't overuse it.

>>174537223
its because sega acquired them

>>174544339
Maybe I just played the good ones before. But then again, SMT is the first oldschool first-person dungeon crawler I've playd.
>>174544443
>>174544673
Alright, I'll keep pushing on with help of guide.

>>174542672
please take that shit to /pg/

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>>174538818
I gotchu covered

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Why is the sound so good in DDS, like seriously.

The music, sound effects, even the dub acting except Gale and Cielo is ahead of its time.

>>174546750
>except Gale

Opinion discarded.

>>174539874
I prefer when games are more straight forward. And in that regard I enjoyed SMTIV over P5.

Atlus really got full of themselves by taking away so much time from the player; the memes about the cat proved to be way too real.
I don't know how the rest of the fanbase reacted to it, but I take it that they will eat it up as long as the game throws waifus at them.

I'm starting to think agility is useless in smtiv
Think I might just start doing 4/1 dex/luck or something
currently level 13 with 35 dx 33 ag and 17 luck going for a gun build

>>174546750
>Except for gale
You just don't comprehend.

But really, I don't remember him being bad at all.

>>174546979
I liked it alot and its coming from some one who least favorite spin off is persona.

The railroading in between story segments is fucking annoying and Haru coming it late are my only real problems. The whole
>go to bed cat meme
ist a good reason to hate the cat sense without it would be like in P4 when Yu would say "I am to tired or dont feel like it" or something.

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>>174541207
No, this is.

>>174547170
Am I crazy or did I not really get the whole "railroading" complaint? What else would you have them do?

>>174547170
The thing is that I don't really recall Yu going to sleep early just so you could watch a cutscene the next day. If anything the game skipped straight to the scene itself if that is what the game wanted.
Let alone in P3, where the large majority of story cutscenes didn't waste your whole day.

>>174547508
Talk to people, or do one of the many activities that the game lets you do.

>>174547508
I understand they need to have it there to give exposition to the story and all but its still annoying.

Let me go do something at night ffs if the day is wasted trying to figure out who futaba is

>>174547615
Yes but am saying the character, Morgana, is not forcing you to go to bed, its the game itself. When he leaves for a bit you still have to go to bed. I thought thats what that anon meant when he was complaining about the cat.

>there will never be another game with a cast as nice as p2's

I started replaying IS and all I can think about is how much I love all of them.

;_;

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If the gameplay is excellent but the story is shit, is it acceptable

>>174545854
>>174543242
Go love your own women you sad sack of shits. I've seen what you say.

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>>174547753

>>174547946
Obviously it's acceptable. It is a little bit disappointing however.

>>174547986
I haven't said anything like that, now do the following >>174545854

>>174547946
Yes.

If anything just wait until the next game releases, when it'll become acceptable to like IV:A.

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>>174548605
t.Demon fucker

>>174548859
Chill out.
Come, I'll massage your shoulders.

>>174548972
He doesn't have shoulders you fucking asshole

>>174547946
Baby's first formalism mindset: the post

>>174548859
I don't fuck them. Demons are for fusing, and killing, not fucking.

>>174542672
smelly neet
skeet on feet

>>174547289
>FUCKING GIRLS
>I WISH YOU'D JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE

>>174543242
>>174545854
FUCK OFF, DUMB DEMONFUCKERS!

I WANT TO MAKE PURE LOVE WITH FUTABA AND YOU ASSHOLES WILL NOT STOP ME!

Is this the pinnacle of /pg/? Shitposting about le waifus on /smtg/ cause their thread manages to be worse on every possible level?

>>174551187
That's cool, but just take it to /pg/ okay?

>>174549748
how much of game does she spend barefoot?

SMT x WWE

>>174553017
Bah gawd folks, we have just witnessed the demifiend suplex YVHW off the top rope

>>174547946
No.
If gameplay is the only thing that matters to you, then you should stick to EO, pussy.

>>174553017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu2op9bM-bo

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>>174553017
>>174553156

What's the purple eye in Yosuke's screen?

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Just wondering.

Did SMT: Apocalypse sell good for SMT standards? I really don't worry about localization but still you never know

>>174554679
It was less than IV, but considering it was a direct sequel to a niche title that didn't get marketed nearly as well as its predecessor, it sold okay. The percent of the stock sold in the first week in Japan was 70ish percent.

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>>174543242

Just got my ultimate personas in P2:IS and am wondering: are they even worth using? They cost so much SP that I can only use them like 4 times before running out.

>>174543242
Anyone got the photo of Boss man?

>>174555643
I trust ATLUS is not dense enough to decide "we're not bringing this from Japan" when they've been localizing shit like Devil Summoner since forever.

>>174555957
They did not localize the PSP port of Devil Summoner

I'm having trouble understanding the flow of 4. Am I supposed to grind a ton early for levels and demons? Even the fucking regular battles are
>did you win in the first turn?
>no?
>then you die to critical wave 2x or some area magic that one of your demons is weak to
Just beat the minotaur and now I have to go against medusa. Guess I'll grind until I get a demon with media and have 6 demons with zan
Doesn't really feel that fun to play

Anyone else noticed some tracks in P5 had some SMT3 vibes to it?

This track in particular:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKTPhuJpcVs

>>174556064
Now that's an exception. The PSP was a catastrophe.

>>174556192
I did some grinding until I wouldnt get fucked in the ass by a failed talk

>>174556192
No, stupid gaijin, you are supposed to buy money and xp boosting drc.

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>>174540269
It doesn't really matter for MT 1 once you got that cover.

>>174556192
Minotaur and Medusa are the hardest bosses in the game desu, full downhill rush from there

>>174556238
What track from Nocturne sounds like that?

>>174556702
https://youtu.be/qO6LWQhvzRw?t=20s

>>174556238
Yeah I'm starting to realize how samey Meguro's work is.

The voice actors in Desu over clock, are really annoying. Noaya is ok.

>>174556868
They sound nothing alike.

>>174556594
I'm actually happy to hear that. Guess I'll power through her. Thanks.

>>174556868
I don't get the same vibe from them at all. The Nocturne track feels a lot more oppressive.

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>>174556963
you sound nothing alike

goddammit, alex doesn't even look like yukiko, please don't let this meme last until release

>>174556963
Yea I always turn them off
Desu 2 is way better in voice acting imo. Played through the whole game with them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEH3A3mqi8

It's literally DDS music.

>>174557216
get fucked
>>174556963

>>174541532
Tadashi didn't get the memo that Persona is happy funtime with some sad now.

Is Hallelujah gay?

>>174549024
Great! Thanks to you, I feel like shit!

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>>174557406
y'all need to chill

>>174557328
It's literally DDS music but good and not boring.

>>174558104
>DDS music
>Boring
Opinion discarded, try again.

>>174556868
Not really hearing it.

>>174558104
> But good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0IDL5XWQVo

>>174558104
>but good
>not boring
Shit fucking taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNbGxDgcZh0

>>174557515
>random blushing at Nanashi
>is the most bro
probably

>>174558463
It's like you're trying to prove me right. What's so special about that track? It's so fucking boring to listen to.
>>174558675
This one's good though. All the dungeon/ambient themes are okay, the battle tracks are way worse.

Where did our draw fags go too?

>>174558952
>>>/pg/

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>ENEMY USED MACCA BEAM

>>174559032
I started playing other games and forgot to keep drawing stuff here

>>174559032
Who knows
Even the General That We Don't Like doesn't have any right now and they're full of activity

>>174558952
I'll agree with you there. The only battle themes I like are Hunting Comrades and Compulsion

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>>174559067
Dumb DDSfags don't know shit about anything, step aside for the superior OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJmwp8IwRE

>>174559285
you don't even like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov62FfHk9c0

>>174559201
Their full becuase of P5
Infact they are sucking us dry, there have been decent SMT conversions in pg. Shit was weird
But after all the hype of P5 dies down it will die down as well.

>>174559189
Show me some of your old stuff

Guys, Alice just asked me to die
I said no

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>>174559436
here's my favorite I drew

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>>174559519
So cute! I love me some Jack Frost art.

>>174559430
I've yet to play DDS2 so no opinion on that yet, I was doing NG+ stuff in 1 but forgot about it because P5 came out. I forgot to mention I like Hari-Hara too.

>>174559032
do you want somethnig drawn?

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Both Raidou games' OSTs are so underrated, why don't you faggots talk about them more often?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWm6mkq6bE4

>>174559784
because the games fucking suck cock and no one played either to completion, no amount of shilling will help

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>>174559634
thanks man it makes me happy when people like my art even though I write more than anything nowadays

>>174559784
Because the first game was mediocre and the second never came to Yurop.

Do you want the next SMT game to have random battles or enemies that you can actually see on the dungeon like Persona?

>>174560116
I don't care.

>>174560116
see the enemies, something about random battles isn't very fun to me

>>174560116
random battles.

>>174560116

Random battles with on field enemies that can join in the middle of the random battles.

>>174560116
The latter offers more input for the player so it's inherently the better option. There's much to improve from SMT4 and P4 though (haven't played P5 yet).

>>174559174
>carrying millions of macca
>i'll just let them kill me and do-over
>dormath escaped!

>>174560116
On the field enemies. I just want to know what asspull they'll come up with for having the demons not pop up in "their true form" until you attack them.

>>174559519
Kawai as fuck senpai

>tfw had 4 MegaTen games on the backburner and finally working through them
I had dropped Nocturne, SJ, P2:IS and P1P(SQQ) for ages. Beat SQQ, up to the Cosmic Eggs in SJ, Yurakocho Tunnel in Nocturne and Xibalba in P2:IS.

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>>174542898
Bump

>>174560116
SRPG with set battles

>>174542898
>>174561660
Magaon is a necessity for the final boss.

I want to have a well rounded team

What should I look for in fusions?

I usually go with something with high mana if they're a healer, or high health if they're gonna be a meatshield

>>174562220
>Final boss
I'm building her for some hot fiend action, anon.

>>174562303
in what

>>174562303
Just go all in on attack you don't need anything else when everyone is dead

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>Try to think of a character that isn't Dante because that feels like cheating.
>Realize I hate everyone in Nocturne.

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What did you pick?

>>174564863
Jun.

>contact a demon with Jun and Tatsuya
>"I APPROVE! IF MORE WERE LIKE YOU THERE'D BE LESS HUMANS"

>>174563417
nocturne doesn't have characters so i don't blame you

>>174564863
Maya

>>174564995
It's interesting that if you pick Jun, Lisa is surprised but no one else is.

>>174563417
>Yuriko
>Arthur
I like you, anon.

>missing one Autoskil in Overclocked
Is there a list on which skills I can crack on demons somewhere

>>174565861
yeah there's a wiki listing all skills

How connected are Devil Summoner 1 and Soul Hackers story-wise?

>>174563417
Change Katsuya for Baofu and I'd swear you were me.

>>174565675
They all know Jun Is best girl

>>174559862
>no one played either to completion
I beat both of them actually, they were pretty fun if you value atmosphere

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>2017
>Someone still hasn't put the fully translated Devil Summoner script in the PSP version

>>174565967
It's fairly disconnected save for a few characters that reappear from the first installment. But they fuck off almost as soon as they show up.

>>174565961
Found it thanks

After that I just need to do 3 more routes (Noaya/Kaido evil), Gin and At-low's to 100% this game.

So SMT if... and then later P1, P2, ETC happens after Raidou 1 and SMT 1 and SMT 2 happens if raidou doest do shit yes or if he never exited?

>>174567153
smt happens if raidou xiv loses to raidou xl i think? shit's confusing

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I really don't know what to do. I'm already at the next bridge where I need the Wind Seal but I already have a Earth Seal that I haven't used yet and already got the Demon Analyzer. There is also an area in Ginza near Suzuki that I can't reach. I'm really trying hard to get through this without using a guide.

>>174568026
I would help but am stuck in KMT 1

I forgot where to go but am a little bitch and ill use a guide if I cant remember.

Dam you P5

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So how are your feelings on this game and how long is it? Playing it right now and its pretty fun for a Gameboy rpg game that ist pokemon.

I dont know why they renamed demons as monsters to make the game more kid friendly but then have a pentagram and the name itself being demon slayer on it.

>>174567043
The evil naoya route is pretty neat in terms of epilogue

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>>174567153
I'll break this down clearly for you and every other newfag who wants to know the "timeline" for MegaTen.

Megami Tensei is the mainline series. It received multiple spin-offs, which are sister titles to each other. Of these spin-offs are:

>Megami Ibunroku Persona / Persona
All Persona games sans Persona 2: Innocent Sin (and Revelations for obvious reasons) are connected to each other chronologically.

>Shin Megami Tensei
All unrelated save for I / II and IV / IVA, as you very well can't blow Tokyo up 4 times over. You can argue "muh universe reset", but there's nothing to support that.

>Majin Tensei
I and II. Done deal.

>Digital Devil Saga
Once again, I and II.

>Devil Summoner
Raidou, Raidou 2, Devil Summoner, Soul Hackers. Not connected to Persona save for a nod to the "Kuzunoha Detective Agency".

>Devil Survivor
1 and 2 are disconnected.

>Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible
Didn't bother playing

>DemiKids
Connected loosely

And that's the MegaTen timeline in a nutshell. Barely connected by common themes and locations and it wouldn't make sense even if you tried.

>>174569553
>everything took place after bunny ascended the throne of god and got bored
head canon best canon

>>174569553
I am playing last bible/revelations demon slayer, it has nothing to do with anything as far as I can see.

BUT SMT If... is connected to Persona and in the first game you see the events of SMT 1 and SMT 2. If you didt stop the nukes SMT 1 and 2 would have happen. Since you stoped the nukes and the world kept on going SMT If.. happend which IS connected to Persona 1 and 2IS/EP

>>174569423
Is evil naoya any different from evil Kaido?

Story wise I still think Messiah ending is my favorite. Seeing Naoya's plan fall through at the last moment was sweet.

>>174570032
>Is evil naoya any different from evil Kaido?
don't think so? The only difference is whether you choose to spare the humans mob after you or not

>>174569928
>If
Never played it, admittedly. It's too much of a pain in the ass when a certain fan translator doesn't do what he says he will.

So what I'm to understand is that If is a branching path from SMT? If the nukes were stopped then Persona would have happened?

>>174564863
Eikichi

>>174570427
In Persona 1 you see the main girl from SMT if... (if you chose the female) in your school and all the kids comment and how she knows the demons names abilities etc and how she never talked about her other school. fucking amazing cameo I must say. And I only know this becuase I TRIED to play SMT if... with a jap to english guide but it felt wrong.

And it seems so. Also what projects of SMT are in forever translater hell?
Majin tensei is stuck at 40% since 2009
SMT If... is a given
P2EP I heard its in 40% now but I forgot the link and or it will be released this year.

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>>174570750

>>174563417
Prettty much identical to mine except I liked aigis more than aki in P3 and bunny more than jungo in DeSu2.

>>174570875
Persona 1's combat wast bad desu I dont know why nu-persona fags and even some of you guys told me so. how you get new personas though, that is ass.

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>>174568519
I beat it a couple months ago. I enjoyed it, and it's short as hell. I played with a guide telling me which places to go, because it's an esoteric GB RPG, and I can't imagine it was more than 15 hours. It's not like a total blast, but it's a solid game boy rpg, and it's still clearly Megaten. Demon names are weird as hell, spell names are weird, but it's worth a play. Easy one to check off the list that I think people forget about. Pic semi related, it's a bootleg of LBII that for whatever reason I'm not liking as much, despite being a 'better' game.

Is it really just a meme that these games are unfriendly and only an option if you are a "hardcore" gamer?

Albeit I started with the two SMTIV titles but since then I've been breezing through several games of the franchise, including Strange Journey, where I remember reading in a magazine, yes those, hands off if you aren't a "hardcore" gamer.
Turns out Strange Journey´s only "hardcore" part is first person dungeon crawling, it's exactly the same shit than any other game from the mainline or the closer affiliates otherwise.

I'm not dissapointed or something, on the contrary, I think I've found my favourite franchise over the last few months but people claiming the Megaten series is not suited for anyone but the most hardened videogame warriors are talking out of their ass. No I haven't touched SMT1 or 2 yet but from what I read and see they won't be nearly as cryptic and hard as people act coming from the newer games. Instead I've actually dragged myself through Majin Tensei 2 because that game is awesome

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>>174570750
The Famicom MTII translation isn't in hell, but we haven't heard from dmanufacture since he did a bunch of rapid fire updates last summer(?)

>>174571553
We have KMT2 though why translate MT2?
Why not work on Majin tensei 1 and 2?!
I need some SMT Srpgs until DeSu 3 fuck

>>174571257
why is it "better"? and how is it a bootleg?

>>174571308
I'm not particularly good at these games, but I still beat them on normal without issue and they're still my favorite games. The mechanics and world are what draw one in, if you want to play Megaten you'll make it happen.

>>174571195
I told you, I told you not to listen to the underage shitters in this general. Always play an older title when people tell you not to.

>>174571869
except soul shitters

>>174571702
The Famicom version is easily the best RPG on the platform and the music is incredible on the FC version too. We do have King of Kings in english with Kaneko designed demons if you need an SRPG.

>>174571308
1 and 2 are easier than SJ.

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>>174571702
It's mechanically a better put together game, but it feels like more of a slog for some reason. I got a $6 bootleg of the english patched version on aliexpress.

Is every Shin Megami Tensei after SMT3 pretty much flailing your dick around early to mid game until you hit an impossible roadblock and then finding a way to have Debilitate and Charge?

I can't recall the last time I was able to beat these games without Debilitate.

>>174572243
I assume I can get the rom for this game so I can play on the go on my phone right?

I dont get how a meme game like jack bros is on the beginners guide but not actual games like Last bible

>>174573679
Yeah, you can. I would suggest playing it on a hacked 3DS though, touch controls aren't really ideal.

>>174541652
thanks senpai

>>174557450
P3 is pretty sad though
P5 had a nice mix I felt.

>>174572006
Soul hackers is great fuck off.

We can all agree that P4 is shit though right? Not just for its writing but for the damage its done for SMT?

>>174573181
From my experience it's just getting your shit kicked in early until you start getting good demons and just start steamrolling everything.

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>>174574692
What damage? It's the only easy SMT game and a great entry point.

I'd rather have someone start with P4 and gradually get into other Megaten games and respect the franchise than dupe someone into starting Nocturne, encountering Matador and swearing off the franchise as rubbish.

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>>174575381
>I'd rather have someone start with P4 and gradually get into other Megaten games
This never happens. Most persona fags are sticking with Persona. P5 MIGHT lure some more people into SMT since P3/P4 dont have negations guns and have shitty enemy designs.

Gone are the days of atlus experamting with new SMT spin offs like Last bible, Raidou, DDS, etc. We have been only been getting P4 spin offs.

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Hey guys who is your favorite persona?
This is mine!

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>>174575891
Izanagi is pretty cool

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>>174575891
This guy, even though I have never seen it in game

>>174575830
>This never happens.
Back when Golden came out there were lots of people who came here interested to get deeper on the series. It's also happening again with P5.

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>>174575830
> only getting P4 spin offs

Did you not enjoy this? P5 is also a worthy SMT all things considered, and a SJ remake along with SMT5 is coming so hold your horses.

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>>174575891
Dood it's a giant dick.
Those wacky japs!

>>174576107
I really don't believe it will be SMTV it's way too early

>>174576107
Now I enjoyed SMTIV:A what I did not enjoy was how it was trying to be P4 and SMTIV at the same time.

And yes I do consider P5 a worthy SMT game. I am glad it has actuall demons and guns and negotions and more importantly LAW fags getting BTFO. SJ adding waifus is worrying though. and after the fucking abomination that is SMT x FE I am not holding my breath for SMT x Switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdwK7XV9Mvs&t=77s

tfw if there's ever a desu 3 I'll be forced to buy a switch
Bitter sweet dreams

>>174576482
It is undoubtedly SMT5 given the date hint in the trailer that marks the releases of 1 - 4.

There's no way it could be anything else.

>>174576089
I still find it to be a huge ((coincidence)) that every other spin off just died when P4 came out. I hope with these new HD assets we get more spin offs, I enjoy DeSu more then mainline because I am a Srpg fag.

>>174576656
2 came out when DS was already replaced

>>174576659
SMT HEROES CONFIRMED

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>>174576656
SMT x Switch is actually SMT x Switch featuring PS4.

I was happy too.


>>174576659
ASPECT RAIDOU

>>174576836
>featuring PS4.
Hey that's pretty good

>>174576836
was this confirmed beyond that one picture of a powerpoint slide at a fan event?

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Where the hell am I?! Why is there so many god damn damage tiles?! Why can't I just fucking Traesto or Trastart out of here?!

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>>174577437

>>174577361
no_

I really dont wanna have to buy another console for one game. AGAIN bought the PS4 for Bloodbourne but atleast it got that Digimon game and P5

>>174577437
You are about to fight Giygas.
Good luck, chosen one.

>>174577487
>>174577437
>MT2
But those are the names of the dudes in MT1?

>>174577621
KMT carries over the names from the first game because ATLUS are hacks frauds.

So, are the gems in DDS2 consumable or can I take them off the rings?

>>174577510
I'm a nintendofag with a Switch, playing P5 on a used PS3. Part of me likes to see mainline with Nintendo, but more megaten is better for everyone. As long as it's not Sony exclusive either.

>>174577757
You can take them off, but they'll break/disappear or whatever.

>>174577794
I just dont want it to be stuck on handhelds. seeing my favorite demons 3D and in HD on the PS4 felt like such a huge fanservice for me on par with YHVH and the protags in SMTIV:A

>>174577849
So they are consumable, are they rare or can I farm/buy them?
And if they are rare, will I get enough of them so I don't fuck myself over for using them on shitty rings?

>yfw SMT x switch ist a new spin off or new entry in mainline but a remake of SMT I and II

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJGs0t4ERQI

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The only complaint I ever hear from people regarding Devil Survivor is "shitty art."

What about shitty music?

>>174578112
I like the 80s pop soundtrack in 1 and the easy listening elevator music in 2.

>>174578112
the art ist even bad its just super fanservicy

>hateing on DeSu music
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9fG1HwzBrM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EwKV-xgMSk

>>174578083
I'd rather not have that to be honest. The sparse story of SMT1 and 2 work within the confines of an SNES game, but if you create full HD remakes, they will be a bit lacking. The dungeons also don't work with a 3rd person perspective. You will need to completely retool the game in every aspect in order to make it work. I'd rather have a new game if they are going to put that much effort into changing it.

>>174578112
>map theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3rx8LhrQo
>battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKxZY0DIxIk
Anyone else recognize the rest?

>>174578112
Leave bunny alone

>>174578112
>shitty music

Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YbVXMCbkCg

>>174578642
this sounds all over the place.

>shitters on /v/ rate P1 the lowest even though they've never played it
Is there anything more infuriating?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuyRX9z7bG8

>>174578436
It could just be a remake in the mold of Oath in Felghana, where they reuse the basic story and ideas but it becomes an entirely different game.

Anyone got the hunger chart? I am at 18 games now and I wanna see where am at

>>174578893
This is what I meant. Throw SMT If... in the mix as well fuck it

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>>174577957
Anyone?
>>174579442

>>174579785
Gems are useless and don't matter in the slightest. You only need max stats in 1 optional fight and by then you can farm incenses.

>>174579785
Before I played DDS1 and 2 I thought the last one was a massive spoiler and heat eat sera for some reason.

>>174580050
Ok, then I should use them as fast as I keep getting them.
Thanks for clarifying that.

Also, do I get resist elemental and null death/mute/shit passives in DDS 2 too?
I had to do a bit of grinding in DDS1 post game because I started from a save where I had completely ignored them.
I might as well start planning for that early on this time around.

Btw, the hard mode doesn't feel as hard as people said it would be, it feels more of a logical continuation of DDS1.

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Was she gay?

>>174580495
Yes

>>174580397
>Also, do I get resist elemental and null death/mute/shit passives in DDS 2 too?

I honestly didn't find them as important. The thing about hard mode is, when you hit a weakness you do 2x the damage. I went full offense and I was killing everything so fast, resistances didn't matter.

The only times they matter is when fighting optional bosses, so if you plan on doing that you may want to think ahead and get them. At the very least start on the mantra path that will cover your character's weakness.

>>174580495
Her ass was delicious.

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what is this from?

>>174581071
The SMT IV manga with walter being the lead in a world where Roach never existed.

Speaking of which how are the SMT manga's specifically the DeSu 1 ones?

>>174556064
There were issues with the source code I thought?

>>174580723
Ok thanks, I think I go for the second tier on whatever element they start with or physical for Roland and then start leveling the element they're weak to.

>>174580986
t. heat

>>174581205
I've heard that P1 and DeSu 1 mangas are pretty good. The P4A one isn't half bad as an adaptation.

>>174582408
Persona 1 has a manga adaption what the fuck?

P4A is a good adaptation but I think P4 is one of the worst SMT games that ist complete garbage. Yu in P4A is GOAT though.

>>174582565
P1 is the best selling Persona dude.

>>174582789
P5FAGS BTFO

>>174582789
Not even close, P4 and P5 both sold more.

>>174582789
http://personacentral.com/persona-5-best-selling-release-atlus-history-japan/

>>174555697
I can't refute this he's too alpha.

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>>174583741
Well, fuck my asshole and cum in my hair.
They finally topped it.

>>174584137
That's only the first week sales, P4 sold way more than P1 afterwards.

>>174555697
Holy shit I never noticed the plane in the back.
That place had everything.

>>174584884
first week is all that matters

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Why is it people only have complaints about the human characters in SMT games byte never the demons?
Are they just consistently on point?

>>174585478
>Are they just consistently on point?

No, in IV:A the demons are garbage too.

>>174585475
>the money that only comes from Japan first week is all that matters
never go to business

>>174585529
>divine powers
>bad
The worst part is you can't join them.

>>174555697
>caring about what a chaos fag says
>caring about what a samurai spear man says
shit demon desu

>>174585478
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the demons are always on point. Then again, they aren't hard to fuck up. I heard some people complaining about Dagda though, so maybe it's not universal.

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I just started DDS, is it a bad idea to dump most of my stats into magic?

>>174586681
No

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hawt

>>174586681
That's what I did and I cleared everything except demi fiend on my first playthrough.
Making Serph the damage dealer just makes sense.
Just remember to learn the element of your weakness on everybody.

>>174585529
You have garbage opinions

>>174587402
Primordial whore.

>>174587402
I'm having trouble discerning what's even going on or what body part is what.

>>174587402
She has huuuge shoulders

>>174589456
I thought one was a boob for a minute

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>>174587004
>>174587842
Thanks guys. Just dropped 3 hours into it. So far I love it, if it doesn't drop the ball could be my new favorite. Looking forward to seeing what I can do with this open ended party building.

>play Nocturne for the first time
>Shit on Matador
>shit on Thor
>Get booty blasted by Dante

Provoke is such fucking shit

>>174590608
I don't think the game is terribly open ended, except for how you build Serph and physical immunities make it so that a spellcaster is just superior.
I ended up with Argilla(healer), Serph(damage) Gale(Buffs/debuffs) and I'm sure most other people will end up with the same party as well.
I ran heat for a long time, but once you get mind charge, you'll have to give most of your turns to Serph and a secondary damage dealer isn't worth it.

>>174590864
Oh yeah, and Cielo sucks dick in DDS1, his stats are terrible and weakness ailments is brutal.
I'm not far into DDS2, but he seems to grow mag at a good pace in it which should make him worth using.

>>174590864
I think it's basically as open ended as it gets, seeing as how you can build your party to be whatever you want with mantras.

Can we all agree Hikaru is best Persona girl,

>playing Persona 2
>everytime Jun gets his freak out face I laugh
Seriously, even if it's a status ailment or god forbid he busts in blackjack his expression is FREAKING THE FUCK OUT.

>>174591264
Well you can, it doesn't mean that you should.
You can build your party to be whatever you want in any megaten game with demons as well.

>>174591409
Jun... had a hard life.

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>>174585478
To be fair it's not that hard.
Make frost do something silly every game.
Make Moh laugh at you for being a failure.
Make Metatron beta
And let this guy be himself.

RECARM

DIE FOR ME!

SACRIFICE

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Just beat Persona 2: Innocent Sin. What did I think /vg/ros???

Rumour is I liked it. I like being able to go to any random store and talk to my party members about the last plot event. There's lots of interactions between the party and they're all likeable in their own way. Also Nyarls Barkley is a great villain.

How many playthroughs should I do before trying to fight Luci on DeSu:OC?

>>174594825
Yes it was a good game. Atlus did a survery and a HD remake for P2IS/EP was on it. Hopefully it got decent amount of votes.

now that Hashino is out of Persona and is working on Re:fantasy, rumor has it Tadashi is coming back

>>174594834
Not so much playthroughs so much as demons and levels. I dont think its possible without tryanny lock though.

In terms of hardest boss battle

Demi-fiend DDS 1 > Satan DDS 2 > Lucy DeSu > Mem Aleph SJ > Demi urge SJ

Right? Idk where Masakado and Stephen should be placed at

tfw stuck in DeSu.

time to grind

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>>174595436
>grinding in a srpg
>grinding in a SMT game

failureasahuman.jpeg

>>174595631
You underestimate how dumb I am. Anything revolving strategy is lost on me.

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Tips for beating vishnu-flynn in IV:A?
He kills me the first turn when he buffs himself in the conversation and then antichtons

>>174595850
get good.
Its been a while but just debuff him and do go over 2 or 1 I forgot becuase he will dekunda him self.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHTc0am-KGU

Shit sounds like SJ

Thoughts and hopes on Atlus new Jrpg? I hope it has SMT demons is all.

>>174596148
I hope it's something new and original and not shit.

>>174596148
Catherine didn't seem like any other game on the market. I hope the Persona team can do something like that again, find some niche that lets them make a role-playing game that no-ones ever seen. The Persona team clearly has a lot of talent even if most people here don't care for the newer games too much.

Also that music really is Strange Journey as fuck. I liked SJ's soundtrack but I can see why people dislike the 35 track OST where half of them are HEE HOH.

>>174537223
Atlus was trying a bunch of different ideas to see what would stick. Persona was what sticked. This is what any business does. Had the Raidou games or any of their other franchises blown up as much as persona did. They would be milking them all the same.

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This is my adopted daughter, Alice.

Say something nice to her.

>>174596990
They can and still are doing more spin offs. And they can still make Raidou 3 and it will sell more then Arena 2. Arena 2 sold like shit Also

>being ok with less games
Fuck off. Persona 4 is cancer.

>>174594908
>>174594825
Dude who will lead P6 is the same dude who made the P4 spin offs

>Persona is finanly heading in the right tract with P5
>Hado is now in charge

Fucking hell.

>>174597468
Her Gun repel made Jimenez kill himself within 4 turns on my first SJ playthrough.
That was pretty nice I guess.

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>>174597468
Very cute. Very well behaved.

Alice is a Good Girl.

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So I just beat this DLC.
What did I think of it /smtg/?

>>174598347
It was shit you hate it.
FUCK PERSONA

>>174598347
The fight and dungeon were not fun and the redesigns are complete garbage. Now I order you to absorb these opinions as your own and to share them on /smtg/ every 10 minutes. Go.

>>174598347
You wanna suck Aleph's dick

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>>174598347
>Apocalypse

garbage lol

>>174598614
What is going on heere?

>>174598437
dungeon was shit but the redesighns are good fag.

Demi fiend is kinda ehhhhh though

>>174598669
Demi needs to look angrier, especially after what happened to him.

>>174598669
They're not pale enough and lack lipstick, complete trash, Doi should commit seppuku.

>>174598774
Looks pissed enough for a megaten MC, might you have problems reading faces?

>>174598347
If I fail at stephen do I need to pick up the three stooges again/every time I wanna fight him?

>>174598928
Yes I think only the mapping preserves

>>174598347
demi didn't have pierce/10

>>174598662
bit of hee, bit of ho