/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

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>going to vassalize a faction that probably won't take part in the war by beating the shit out of their ally

How do I delete the Blorg?

>>174320059
Blorgs are top tier you shitlord

>>174320059
ctrl+w

I know that there are fucktons of infinite system cheatmods but is there any mod that, like Only removes the influence cost of removing a system?
Because I am sick of having to remove/Add systems all the time just because the AI is being lazy or retarded with development shit

>he fell for the mastery of nature meme

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wew i never thought i would win a paradox game

Stop with the spiders already.

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I'm having my first crack at making my own species for stellaris with pic related as my setup.
Are these good options for an imperialist empire?

Also, I'm going for the generic Emperor/Empress title, but what should I call my heirs? Prince/Princess or something else?
Also any empire name ideas? I'm thinking of Void Court at the moment.

Is there any mod that add more shp classes without all the bloat and bullshit from the New ship classes mod

>>174320421

They look interesting enough m8. Would personally drop fanatic purifiers for slaver guilds or mining guilds since imperialism isn't really about wiping stuff out but more exploiting them.

By the way, where's the ui color mod from? I like it

Is there a no niggers mod yet?

>>174320513
There is several european mods.

>>174320513
There are separate phenotype mods, so you can have a no niggers allowed empire, and an all nigger empire.
You can even have kikes, kebabs, sandniggers, and gooks.

>>174320609
>kikes
?

>>174320513
Undiverse Humanity.

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>>174320507
How about this then?
Also the UI mod is called Dark UI, on the steam workshop.

>wraith levels a curator station
it's the little things that make it all worth it

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Just what was the AI thinking again.

>yea this must be a good place to colonise
>build ship
>30% chance it gets raped when flying to rally-point

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>>174320513
go to steam>steamapps>common>stellaris>gfx>portraits>portraits>07_portraits_human,txt
change the underlined numbers from 05 to 01

now all your blacks will be whites and you get to keep the dread hair too

>>174320863
based anon, thanks

>>174321228
np dawg

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Has anyone here tried this Northgard game? Just saw it while looking through the strategy releases on Steam. Looks kinda like settlers or something.

>>174321303
Looks like a mix between Folk Tale and a very casual Dwarf Fortress.

>be spiritualist
>have zro in starting system
I'm going full shroud aren't I?

>>174319925
Warp in Stellaris has no link to warp in Star Trek anyway.

>>174320421
What's the flag mod?

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fuck off

>>174321724
I use these two:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=682165224
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=900079667

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Rate my build

I wanted my peaceful cabbage people to be a democracy but Philosopher Kings sounded great

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>decides to play Dungeon Keeper to have an entire dungeon full of spiders
>can't dig on a Z axis
>uninstall

>>174320059

Orbital Bombardment

>>174321845
I never understood xenophile/pacifist, like what do you even do, wait till you get raped by non-pussies?

>>174321303
Ya, I liked it quite abit.
They made 4 "houses" that fight between each other on a randomly generated map, there are unique map victory objectives and the normal conquer/tech/faith victory, pretty fun.
if I remember correctly, they are making a 5th house as well, each of them has a different way to play, some have hilarious late game potential and some are based on early-mid game.

>>174322209
Play defensive and play tall instead of wide?

That's my plan, also having extra unity in a multi-specie ''''''empire'''''''' would make sense, no?

>>174322209
>he thinks that pacifist means being nonviolent
Aren't you too young to be a on4chan? You need to be at least 18 years old.

>>174321845

You should at least drop talented. Fewer levels means less opportunities for leaders to gain a trait when levelling up.

>>174322209

Every AI Pacifist Xenophile I've seen always succeeds in finding allies and form federations. Actually makes them strong enough to defend themselves.

>>174322252
Sounds interesting. Might give it a try, thanks.

>>174322330
Leaders aren't suppose to be disposable? Idea was to constantly generate high-level leaders, pick wilting?

>>174322352
half the time they get eaten by a nearby fanatical purifier though

>>174322370

Using leaders as disposables can be bad due to how much influence they cost and your situation with influence fluctuates quite a lot. I'd pick anything honestly. Rapid Breeders probably the best pick.

>>174322445
So, what would be more fitting to a peaceful/play tall empire? Also to plant people.

>>174322620
>Rapid Breeders

If I terraform a planet with a species that can be uplifted on it, will they die?

>>174322318
>pacifists cant even wage offensive wars
Instead of playing the game plays you, you just sit back and barely interact, like a cuck, also nice projecting.

>>174322861
>projecting this hard
>not even denying the accusation about him being underage
Lol.

>>174322861

Pacifists can wage liberation wars, though, which are offensive wars. It just means you don't get the land and a new faction spawns aligned to you instead.

You don't even play the game, so stop commenting in its mechanics.

Playing fanatic purifier atm and I managed to survive long enough to pick an ascnesion perk.

Which one should I take? I know robots are better than biological fucks but having a species that wants to eradicate everyone else because they are impure.... i mean i cant just turn myself into a robot, it would disagree with that ideology?

>>174322837

Not even sure if the game actually allows it

>>174322956
>robots are better than biological fucks
Lol no.

>>174323043
>biological being
>get old and die
>randomly get in heat and need to reproduce
>meawhile, robot master race
>doesn't get old
>doesn't die
>doesn't need to fap until his cum looks like water

Am I the only one that wants more intricate galaxy generation for Stellaris? Like, choose exactly which empires will be features and where they will spawn, choose the locations of all the enclaves and unique systems like Sanctuary and Gargantua. I'd like to have control over that

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>>174323015
I wouldn't be asking it otherwise.

>>174322956

That is an interesting thought, since xenophobes clearly hate synthetics once you create them, because there counted as a separate species.

Don't know how it would work through Ascension. Maybe the upgraded population becomes the primary one and it all goes well?

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I think my drouds may be defective what do?

>>174323140

Only one way to find out, anon.

>>174323140
Yes, terraforming removes all pops.

>>174323180
But muh birds.

>>174322901
>>174322932
>kids talks without knowing
>get BTFO'd so hard it doesn't even answer
REKT

>>174322643
Well, anything else.

Also, is there any reason to be a democracy?

>>174323140

Looked it up on the paradog, seems like the primitives won't go anywhere

>>174322901
>not even denying the accusation about him being a cuck

Lol.

>>174322932
So you end up with a swarm of small vassals that just sit ontop of their planet in a War and get curbstomped by some psionic madman that goes on a crusade..
And building tall takes easily 200 years to get going.

>>174323367
>I never played Stellaris but I like to talk like I did : The Post
Embarassing!

>>174323294

Mandates, if you're interested

>>174323145
I mean, im sure the game allows you becoming a synth as a xenophobe, but it wouldnt make much sense and I would feel stupid doing it.

>>174323043
I mean cyborgs/synth give better bonuses than being able to genetical engineer a few traits in.

>>174323457
Literally have 0 hours in this game, what are mandates good for?

>>174323452
Yes be a good little paracuck

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>>174323468
>I mean cyborgs/synth give better bonuses than being able to genetical engineer a few traits in.
Not a chance fancy pants.

so Things I should do/Not do with sectors
>not allow them to redevelop buildings to prevent them from fucking up a planets entire purpose in my empire
>only give them a planet after I build the building on every tile
Anything else?

>>174323562
I have never even seen this trait how do you get it?

>>174323657

It's an uplifted species trait only

>>174323657
If you go that rout you unlock a bunch of new traits.

Genetics Engineering >>>>>>>> synth

>>174323685
and the little brain symbol is the >tfw to intelligent
trait?

>>174323540
Useful for gaining "Influence", which is a quantified resource in Stellaris rather than a vague notion and is for non-democracies otherwise a difficult thing to acquire.

>>174323562
>only useful if multiple species minmax

>>174323791
Erudite 20% to all research and leaders get +1 level

>>174323540

Never played Democracy myself(Dictator and Imperial cunt).

From what I read somewhere:

Democracies and Oligarchies get Mandates every time a new president is elected. Mandate is like a small mission available while the leader is in position. I.e. something like "Build X amount of mining/research stations", " Colonise X amount of planets", something of that sort. Once completed they reward you with Influence. There's no penalty for not completing them.

Also, Democracies and Oligarchies might have somewhat of an advantage against others because of elections. They don't have to wait for their leaders to die and the Empire-wide perks they receive are a lot more fluid.

What is good to minmax now? Technology and Unity?

>>174323791
There is actually a trait that's literally callled "Intelligent" and it's a mortarboard, not a brain.
The brain trait is "Erudite", is basically superintelligence, and you can only get it if you become a 1337 gene h4XX0r

>>174324019

Oligarchies don't get mandates, they get Agendas instead, which are a passive bonus.

Oligarches work by electing 1 of 4 leaders, each with a different mandate. There's no objective to complete like you do with a Mandate.

The game really need balance.
>synth ascension is useless
>megastructures are bad except habitats

How do you manually install mods in 1.5? The old way doesnt seem to work anymore, they show up in the launcher but not ingame

>>174324182
>new content needs balancing

who would have thought

>>174324079

Yep, my bad, somehow was certain that Agendas were only for Dictatorial and Imperial authorities.

>>174324385
The people who are supposed to play test it in QA for 300 hours?

Don't excuse paradox for being lazy.

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Oh fuck what do I pick?

>>174324483
yes, new content in any game ever has always been perfectly balanced

nothing has ever been overpowered or complete garbage

fucking moron

>>174324483
So after talking out of your ass about pacifist, you decided to prove that you have no clue about how QA works?
Nice.
Epic.
Much proof.
Such stupid.

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>>174323367
>>174322861


Literally (You)

>>174324708
>>174324678
Fix your games, dipshits, then you wouldn't have defend your shit company on the internet.

>>174324659
MAP
THE
STARS
NIGGA

WE WUZ RESEARCHERS N' SHIT

>>174324659

Get the Sentient AI. Other stuff can easily show up later.

>>174324826

>>>/v/

>>174324826
>"anyone who disagree with me is a drone"
>"i am the only carrier of truth in the entire world"
>"everyone but me is retarded"
So, how old are you? Twelve?

>>174324809
Fucking savage!
But it lacks the guy playing "remove kebab".

>>174323928
What can you do with influence? I still don't know what to do with my peaceful cabbage

>>174324862
>wanting to upset MC smartypants in their ringworlds
mom's gonna freak

>>174324990

Nah, they'll just yell at you and slap your appendages.

Whatever the case, that +10% is fucking delicious

>>174324678
>nothing has ever been overpowered or complete garbage

"X is bad, but this other thing was bad too, therefore X is not bad"?

>>174324950

Planetary edicts, leaders, outpost if you got a good income too.

Place governors and enable Propaganda Broadcasts to make your vegetables the happiest in the galaxy.

>>174324708
The fuck are you talking about?
>>174324678
Obviously nothing is flawless but you'd think they could have caught the most glaring shit that the players noticed in less than a month.

>>174324950
Resettling pops from one planet to another, colonising virgin worlds, invading primitive aliens who haven't invented FTL yet, and planting big flags in systems to expand your territory.
These are the big 4.
There's also a few government reform options but nobody ever uses them.

>>174325279
Less than two weeks.

>>174325412
He's trolling, stop feeding him.

>4x game where, instead of set victory conditions, each player/AI empire is graded in several various categories and wins when they achieve enough of a point difference to everyone else in one category
>Each category is combined of multiple elements, once you 'dominate' in a category if nobody can match you in any other category you win
>Military domination comes from winning the most wars, having the strongest armies, having the best defensive planets, be receiving the most tribute from other empires, etc.
>if you dominate in the military category but another player dominates in the economic category the game continues until one of you is the sole winner

How does this sound as alternate victory conditions? Why hasn't any game done something like it?

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YES, YESSSS.

>found weird temples in space carved out out of Meteorites and in the design of ancheint temples my species used to apparently build
>some interdimendional fuckery involving some 'worm' shit was apparently waiting for certain individual people of my species for god knows how long and took them to god knows where
> the 'worm; shit also has something to go with some 'Loop' shit and some weirt space/time clone of a guy from my species for some reason wanted to be killed
>keep finding shit like anceint dead aliens who have similar biology and apearance to my species
>one of my colonys was completely replaced by someone and none of the original colonists exist and instead people who have no records of ever existing
and a bunch of other shit like that has happened
this is probably the first time this game actually has me interested in shit other than just expanding bigger all the time

>curbstomp two fallen empires in a row, one of which was awakened
>tore through their fleets like it was fucking nothing
So what do I do now? Everyone's pissy at me cause I went synth and grabbed all those delicious homeworlds but I'm pretty sure even if they all decided to attack at once I'd still easily win.

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>>174325282
>>174325167
So, is this any better? Should I replace Meritocracy with Cut-Throat Politics? I want my sapient salad to be chill dudes, but you gotta do what you gotta do

>>174325702

Dude, that's like the best event the game had right now. Still haven't finished it and it gives the real chills each time it progresses.

There's some even more wild shit coming up towards the end, that I know.

The event is actually something like a free DLC. I think they got the guy from Fallen London to write it.

>>174325702
I like that retro-scifi feel when you sometimes find something that is way beyond your comprehension and rather than trying to subdue it, you just hope it'll ignore you.

>>174325984
Or replace Pacifist with Egalitarian

>>174325848
attack them all at once, then of you win and wipe them all out go full builder putting stuff like ringworlds and shit everywhere, then if possible cause a crisis and fight it all by yourself

>>174325984
Is your federation going to be "The Big Salad"?

>>174324950
The Ruler Level System mod adds an event that fires regularly, you can chose a bonus among a lot of different ones. And it'll cost influence, usually 75~250. It'll also often have drawbacks linked to whatever you pick, and a monthly energy and mineral cost, and a small negative modifier to energy/minerals like -1% or -2%.

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Can anyone point to any recent guides for ship design and fleet composition for Stellaris.

I keep trying different tactics and just get wiped out every time, regardless of fleet size. It's getting a little boring now.

>>174322956
>having a species that wants to eradicate everyone else because they are impure....
WE NECRON NOW

but if you engineer you go suprhuman.
Actually going full evolutionary gives you + 6 trait points AND you still can have two ethich as opposed to one. And psionic powers give yoy +5 everything and great leaders (evasion bonus admirals)

Biological evolution is ridiculously better than robots.
Also you will have to build each and every pop if you go Necron.

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Yeah, I'll quake in fear of your one planet, alright

I'm guessing this is a primitive race that got brought up. Kinda wanna go bomb them to shit now.

>>174325984

Dunno about either of them man.

Thing is, both of those civics are more like small early-game boosters. As in, Meritocracy will give your scientists an extra star so they snatch those anomalies early on and the Cutthroat civic is basically one free frontier outpost right off the bar. These bonuses, especially the Meritocracy, will lose their worth the further you go. Decide on what you wanna prioritize early on.

Anyway, whatever you choose, you can reform your government and choose other civics once you think you got the most out of them.

Reminder that if you rush planetary survey corps you are effectively cheating.

>>174326421
You can uplift fanatic purifiers?

>>174326469
The AI does it too, though. They usually either pick that first or expansion. Both reasonable choices. (Survey corps after all isn't much use when your research output is still below 10)

Why does it cost influence to move robots and slaves?

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>>174326494

They were probably Fanatic Xenophobe Militarists before whoever had an observation post thought it'd be a good meme to enlighten them.

Also, just noticed their flag. Pretty fucking funny.

>>174326461
As I said, I'm all about playing tall, what should I focus on based on that?

>>174326287
I don't remember the post exactly but I can summarize it pretty easily.
Use energy torps and plasma corvettes. The only ship with large slots should be destroyers. Cruisers should stack shield caps and be armed with plasmas and a flak cannon, or use torps. Battleships are the ultimate meme, don't use them.

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fug

>>174326287
Use a balanced fleet composition. Right now I'm rocking 40 cruisers, 30 destroyers, 60 corvettes.

>>174326649
No, no. What you're supposed to do is use corvettes as cheap as possible with energy torps (energy torps are immune to PD) and stormfire autocannons (since they rush in the range advantage of other weapons is pointless).
Destroyers should have medium and small weapons, all kinetics.
Cruisers should have the mix of large and medium, plasma on larges, kinetic on mediums, with at least one flak each and a fuckload of shields, and the shield recharge auxiliaries if possible. Cruisers are always ahead, better fit flak on them.

>>174326461
Also, you were talking about anomalies, wouldn't Talented + Philosopher King be the best combo since you'd be getting 3 star Scientists off the bat?

>>174326674
I wish we'd actually see some of the awakening signs before they actually awaken instead of "oh yeah they were starting to awaken over the last few years"

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>Using a mod that adds a bunch of ship components and other stuff.
>Research the wrong stuff, a type of shield that has extra regen at the cost of capacity and a type of armour that doesn't give armour but straight up HP.
>End up being hard countered and throwing away thousands of lives in order to conquer an empire 1/4 my size.

Getting worried being good now.

>>174326628

Civics that are aimed at increasing resource gain then. Replace Meritocracy with a mineral/credit/unity boost. I can imagine unity production is a problem for empires playing tall, since it mainly comes from 1-3 buildings per planet.

Minerals and Energy that you get from the start are somewhat based on luck.

Is being pacifist still a meme? Is allowing xenos into your empire still asking for destruction?

>>174326887

Nope. The problem is that Philosopher King only affects your empire's Ruler, not every type of leader.

>>174327184
They should write "Mirgrant's protests" and "Ethic clashes" events. Won't believe that ruthless capitalisists and fantatic collectivists can live together in peace.

>>174324809
Post the /gsg/ version

>>174327313
I'm still feeling wary of dropping Talented for Rapid Breeding

>>174326994
So, go Agrarian? What about the second civic? Free Haven or Meritocracy?

>>174324809
kek

>>174326796
>not putting armour on your cruisers

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I like these guys

>>174327184
Pacist is quite stronk now with all their Unity.
There is OP builds with inward perfection maxing out traditions very early.

>>174326287
>>174326729
Balanced fleet is definitely required. You need the littler ships to take the brunt so the big guys can get their shots off.

>>174327810
Shields regen fast, hull does not.

>still no death world on Stellaris
>can't turn Earth into a death world to have super soldiers

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>Female leader
>Fertility Preacher

l-lewd..

>tfw
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3640729

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So I have the first league home system event here, it says send an expedition but now I can't do anything

>>174328509
Someone else got their first and got the anomalies.

>>174326649
>>174326729
>>174326287
Thanks for this. I did try to balance my composition but it seems not enough. Also, now looking at things, it seems choosing missiles was a really, really bad idea.

>>174328509
>playing as a premade civ

Rarer than a unicorn

You know what would be a really neat fucking feature in Stellaris
If you could Give a sector, like an order of a certain ammount of combat ships
and it would automatically build that number ships spread out across all your spaceports
Would make it better than just manually clicking every spaceport and putting one or two ships in that one before moving on to the next spaceport

>>174327602

You could do the following.

Pick Talented as a trait and Meritocracy as a civic, giving your scientists a head start in levels do they can research anomalies with less risk early on and secure their rewards. You get a good headstart in exploration and you'll know of your surroundings and available habitable planets faster. You'll know just how much space you can secure.

Once you're relatively established and have a good diplomatic relationship with some other empire, reform your Meritocracy into Free Haven once you got a Migration agreement in place.

Something like that. All you lose is the Rapid Breeders.

Yet again, that perk is also more of a better headstart, since there's several technologies that give even more pop growth speed (Frontier Hospital). Besides, you'll be partially growing pops through alien immigrants.

Mind you this is just my suggestion, since I never played that way.

>>174328536

Are you serious?

That fucking long ass chain and the home system was on the other side of the galaxy?

>>174325615
Distant worlds does things like this. Racial victory conditions are a number of standard victory conditions combined and unique for each race.

I don't play it with victory conditions though. And they don't belong in stellaris.

>>174328595
Yup, in the future if you're not on ironman you can just save before you finish the last anomaly and just keep reloading the save until its next to your empire.

>>174328595
Did you trade star charts?
Don't. Trading star charts removes discoverable shit from ai explored systems. Its another paradox quality feature.

Oops meant >>174328538 for >>174328021 as well

>>174328719
If the AI has already scanned a system all the anomalies are removed already.

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>>174328590
Started the game, what now? Is there a guide that I can read up on?

I saved at the very start to make sure I don't research the wrong shit or waste time

There's no reason to upgrade sensors on a battleship right? Since their weapons already have 0-5 tracking anyway.

What are generally the best traditions to get early?

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>>174328719

What the fuck

I should stick to TW

>>174328812
Prosperity opener, maybe supremacy opener and discovery down to at least survey corps.

>>174328817

VAMPIRE CHAN I MISSED YOU

>>174328792
Doesn't that make the extra tracking even more valuable?

The price is so piddly. pay your extra few power

So how do you use factions anyway?

>>174328817
I'm genuinely perterbed that CA is making warhammer 2 right after warhammer. I hope theyre at least making a brand new engine for it.

>>174328858
>prosperity opener
I think you meant to say Expansion. The mining station buff is nice, but that's all it brings to the earlygame really

I've taken 6 games into mid/early late in Stellaris and every single one I have to deal with unbidden.

This time I just exited when they popped up

>>174328963
Thats a pretty massive buff for the early game.

>>174328915
It's more of an expansion sequel deal like with the starcraft 2 games. If you own both you'll be able to play a combined campaign.

>>174328858
thanks. I chose supremacy for the opener but then had a look at the traditions under it and they aren't that great then opted for the expansion opener. Overlooked prosperity opening, that is really good.

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>cloud lightning
>100% acuracy
>100% tracking
>costs like a T2 weapon
>50% armor ignore
>can mount 6 of them on a cruiser
Deus Volt

>>174328963

That's 30 minerals per mining base, which at the very start is about 2.5 months worth of minerals. Way more valuable than the Expansion opener because you won't be making colony ships as soon as you seem to think, not like mining bases.

>>174328994
It's not as amazing as you think.

If you have a lot of station points then yeah it's great, but you can put those resources into planet mining for pretty cheap

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>>174329042
>titanic life shit takes a planet
>my fleet refuses to bombard the planet to take its fortification down so I can take it back
fuck this game and its broken glitches sometimes

>>174328915
They literally announced warhammer as a trilogy

>>174329043
That's fine and all if your starting bubble has a bunch of mining stations, but as soon as you being colonizing then Expansion becomes better

>less start-up time, means less energy requirements, means more money you can spend on minerals, means faster exploitation of planet resources
>double the starting pop (like a free mining station)
>faster traditions with the -33% impact
And then it's absolutely fantastic for setting up those frontier outposts

What does prosperity bring beyond the initial discount? Some -15% discounts? Private colony ships?
Expansion into Discovery is the indisputable way to go

>>174328538
Missiles have been and will be trash

>>174328812
1. Expansion or discovery
2. Discovery, prosperity, harmony
3. Supremacy, prosperity, harmony.

That's just a general guideline. You can of course just grab the opener for something like prosperity, then grab expansion and hit up the unity cost reduction, but if you're going to take expansion it should be before you colonize your first world.

Remember when the meta was Torpedoes?

>>174328773

Lol, man, as much as I'd like to help, I really don't wanna sit at the thread the whole time to guide you through all steps if you're new to the game :p

There's a decent guide at the wiki, you can skip all the way to Basic Gameplay Concepts:

http://www.stellariswiki.com/Beginner%27s_guide

And you can turn on the notification bot to start a tutorial where he gives basic information on every section of the interface.

For now, get that Science ship moving to survey every system including your own, build stations every time the survey finds resources within your borders and occasionally peek into your home world to build on tiles where your pops have grown and make free space by eventually removing blockers. Also get a second science ship and a scientist for it to make use of the Civic and traits. Double the scientists - double the exploration.

>>174329353
It still is, energy torpedoes on corvettes are top tier.

>>174329412
Yeah but I mean as in, corvette torps over everything unless you specifically specced for anti-torp

>>174329353
so long ago now

>>174329003
Then what's the point of all the dlc other than maximum overjew?

>>174329264
>>174329083
You're forgetting that the prosperity opener is going to allow you to get your second colony up and running a lot earlier and a single tradition isn't really going to hurt.

>>174329353
Remember when you could mount tachyon lances into every slot of a battleship?

>>174329446
>If you own both you'll be able to play a combined campaign

Are you fucking retarded? Can you not read?

>>174329446
>maximum overjew
ding ding

How do i declare a rival?

So if I want to expand should I build a frontier outpost and tear it down after building my stuff in the system?

What kind of loadout should I be giving my ships? Are medium weapons fine on a cruiser? On a battleship? What should destroyers use?

>>174329484
Are you?

>>174329412
Don't spread misinformation

>torpedo boats and unbidden guns
>cruisers with unbidden guns
>barrleships with focused arc projectors and kinetic artillery
>all that with enigmatic encoders and psychic admiral

Is this the best possible fleet composition?

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>spiritualist awakened empire called the WaiWatchers

Hmmm

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>start game as a xenophobic hivemind
>this happens

they're fucking xenophiles too

>>174329714
Do you have any mods?

I have never ever in all my 160 hours seen this happen

>>174329161
anyone know how to fix the glitch or is the planet fucked forever?
also I didn't mean to respond to that other guys post

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>>174319945
Hello /civ4xg/, take a look at this proposal

1. That we write up an OP FAQ together (at least for Stellaris) to address the typical new guy questions that keep coming up multiple times per thread

2. That we clean up the OP because it's a hot mess right now

What do you think?

I'd figure there's plenty of friendly autismos here that would be willing to chip in a bit to help others out

Is the mining drone laser good?

>>174329759
Just drop a lot of army. The glitch actually is that fortifications don't help them.

>>174329514

Stuff you build in a system only belongs to you as long as it is in your borders, so if you tear down the outpost then you just lose all the stuff you built.

Tear down the outposts once you've established a colony somewhere near that outpost, so that the colony basically takes its place and supports the borders those borders.

>>174329817
It's ok if you don't already have lasers and you want a weapon to mine the hulls of your enemies. Realy fucking power hungry though.

>>174328893
pleasing them gives a boost to influence
angry factions can be suppressed.

>>174329782
Sounds like fun, anon. Got any ideas to get us started?

>>174329756
Just Fallen Empires Extended. Had 4 FEs in an Elliptical Galaxy with 1000 stars and 14 other empires, wanted to have late game conflicts instead of tons of shitty early wars.

>>174329664
>not massing amoeba carriers
It's like you hate fun.

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>spend ages trying to shift primitives to my ethics
>nothing happens
>say fuck it and uplift them
>this happens
What the hell do I do with them now?! They're really disloyal and I can't do any diplomacy with them. God damn fanatical purifiers.

>>174329867
You know, thanks, I assumed you were trying to get my armies killed but it actually worked

>10648 minerals to upgrade fleet

yuck

wonder how long itll take at one spaceport

>>174329927
I've only got coilguns at the moment. I might just plonk 1 on each ship.

Do you guys think of lewd stuff that happens with the xenos you play as? High rank sex scandals?

>>174329513

pls respond

>>174330170

Talk to them, click "Declare rival"

>>174329521
Corvettes
-three small plasma
Destroyer
-large plasma and two PD
Cruiser
-all medium plasma
Battleship
-arc emmiter, all large plasmas

Add some disruptors if you are worried about shield heavy baddies.

>start new game
>two 2k stacks visible within initial senor radius

what fresh hell is this

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>its a research ship finds the dimensional horror episode

>>174319945
Kumo! Last place i expected to see this.

>>174329947
Yeah

Number one thing that newbies keep asking about is ship design, so I was thinking maybe a couple of people could write up what their line of thinking is when designing their fleets (both loadouts and composition), we post them in reply to a central post, and then we start arguing about it and condensing the important basics that people should abide by (and if we can't agree, just include both options)

Another thing could be discussions about traits/ethos/governments. That seems to be the second most asked thing

Also FTL-systems and their differences

And I was thinking as well that we could share tips for "initial builds", Traditions-wise. What do you usually take first, do you dip into any trees before completing, etc. For example I've been really digging opening with Discovery, beelining towards the Survey bonus to research, and then going Prosperity/Expansion depending.

And as for the OP, I was thinking we should add more Stellaris links to wikis and whatnot, and clean up the others a bit. I doubt many people rely on a bunch of them still.

>>174330263

>It's an exit to menu and start again episode

fucking space amoebas are the niggers of space I swear

So I made the kingdom of lav my tributary and in 6 months I can fully integrate them. Should I do that or just keep them as tributary?

>>174330151
I wonder how is fertile supposed to work?

Does it make them horny all the time while giving tham alergy to contraceptives or what?

>>174330393
There is a poster of your leader in a sensual pose in every teenager's room

Fanatical purifiers and warrios culture or fanatical purifiers and disguinshed admiralty?

Is pacifist completely useless?

I can't properly declare war and I'm always behind in military power.

I was hoping I could make a big alliance and fight the stronger realms that way, but despite being pacifist everyone hates me anyway because of different ethos/government.

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>>174330353
forgot pic

>>174330293
>"initial builds"

I usually go with exploration first.

>>174330562
>>174330562
>>174330562
>>174330562
>>174330562

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I just stumbled across earth for the first time, and only because the Humans that live there reached the space-fairing status by themselves and contacted me, somehow I completely missed them even though they were literally right next to my empire

>>174330562
admiralty

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>>174330278
Oh you.

>>174330668

I'd suck them dry first honestly. However, don't let them get big enough to take you on. When you integrate them, you get all the ships, stations, planets, etc. so your economy might go down the shitter for a while. You can probably only control 3 star systems fully right now; going over that will give you -10% energy credits and influence for each 1 you go over. If that's of no concern to you, you could probably do it safely.

>>174330746
just lookin, fanatical purifier op as fuck, 33% army and navy damage o god why

>>174330606
It gives you access to agrarian idyll and +2/+4 core worlds.

You can still liberate planets, vassalise them and then absorb them.

>>174330293
Opening traditions really depend on what's around you.
>have good extraplanet mining locations?
Open prosperity.
>have shit all but have some good systems right outside your border?
Open supremacy to be able to use those systems.
>doing science stuff and leader level fun?
Open discovery.

The general idea is what you open with depends on your immediate situation and plan and the only hard rule is you want to at least have expansion open before you start expanding.

>>174330293
Ah, shame I'm only 80 hours in or I'd pitch in. I don't know it well enough to be able to explain it in laymans terms.

>>174330293
>>174329947
>>174329782
For example, what do you think of this new OP?

--------------

This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).
tags: /cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

>Stellaris
- Wiki http://www.stellariswiki.com/Stellaris_Wiki
- Mod archive https://mega.nz/#F!hpBCSbCC!vZNs1Qhip_UJQPSSdoZjUg
- Mod recommendations http://pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh

>Endless Legend
- Manual http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
- Wiki http://endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Civilization Resources
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) http://well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html

>Civilization VI
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba

>Civilization V
- CIVILOPEDIA Online (Civ V) http://www.dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
- Civ V drafter http://georgeskleres.com/civ5/
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - http://www.multiplayerrobot.co
- Civ V mod workshop http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX)
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

>>174330094
No problem.
I had the same issue before which is how I know.

>>174330943
What's the difference between that and the current OP? It looks a bit neater, but I can't put my finger on it.

>>174330943
With the OP FAQ going right under the Wiki in Stellaris

The Mod recommendations thing is from May 2016 so I figure that's a bit outdated. Can anyone confirm if Mod archive is fine or if it's outdated too?

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>>174329714

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>you can create slave armies for species that can't be enslaved

>>174331008
Added Wiki for Stellaris, removed a Wiki from Endless Legend leaving the bigger one, chopped off some Civ resources that weren't important imo, and merged the Civ V mod section with just Civ V, removing the modding guide because who comes to /civ4xg/ for modding guides

Does anyone give a fuck about Civ Vl anymore?

>>174331106
Where did it all go so wrong?

>>174331106
more than I do about stellaris, but that's not saying much

>>174331106

>civ game at launch is shit

youd think they woulda fixed that shit by now

>>174331106

Not until there's an expansion.

>>174329782
>>174329947
>>174330293
Newbie here:
Another thing that puzzles me is Sector management.
How do you guys deal with it?
Do you have sectors specifically for Science/Mining/Energy/Food or do you just put everything on Balanced?

I'm starting to expand a lot but I fear my tech is going to take a big hit

>>174331106
who?

>have NAP with empire
>empire plops a colony down right on my border taking several stations
>can't declare war for 10 years

>>174330903
Anon no.
Opening tradition should always be discovery up to Survey Corps.

>>174331442
>falling for the nap meme

>>174330796
apparently I can't integrate them after all. I'll just declare war again and slap their shit again.

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>>174331442

>>174331476
anon, no. 1/3 of your science at that game is literally fucking nothing, nowhere near enough to gain any benefit from it. you do that shit when you can keep 100% uptime of stored research, which is bare minimum 3 scientists.

>>174331376
desu when it still matters that they don't fuck up, I only hand them finished planet, with orders not to do anything.
When big enough, I just hand them freshly colonized/conquered planets, some resources, and usually I tell them to focus on science while not respecting tile resources.

>>174331442
Read the fine print, the NAP treaty always included an extra 10 years whenever one party cancels it.

Are there any ways to get quick boosts of influence? or do I need to wait for my purple mana to generate at this glacial pace?
I had to move some robot pops and it cost me almost all my saved up influence.

>other civ gets ringworld within their starting borders

fuck this gay planetoid

>>174331602
Democracy mandates or making first contact with a new species.

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the fuck is royalism and how do I get it?

>>174331642
It literally says in the description.

>>174331550
Anon.
It's 33% of your science output PER BODY SURVEYED. You can definitely store more than 100% of your monthly output every month, even early. And then with the extra science, you can unlock the better labs, and the increased survey speed, and it just all goes faster and faster. And if you finish discovery, that's another +10% speed.

>>174331602
Yis. It is slow

Declare rivalries with neighbors, support factions, get respective tech. Maybe get a Cutthroats civic through reformation, though that shit costs 250 purples

lol, I declared war against my tributary and anything I kill counts as a defeat. I literally lose the war by winning.

>>174329892
Ok. Another question: If I dont have the capacity for more colonies then instead of conquering somebody I should vassalize him?

>>174331686
I don't understand, where the fuck is it? Is it a policy? Does it need to be researched because I don't have it

Playing as the comfy cabbage, I swear to god If first contact is with some hyper aggro military purgememe lords I'm going to return this game, I'm having fun just by research galaxies alone

>>174331759
IF YOU KILL YOUR ENEMIES THEY WIN

>>174320058
>War target has five defensive pacts.
>Declare war on his weakest ally who is only allied with him, take all of his stuff without a fight.

>>174331801

Well, yea, that's a good option to have until you I increase your system cap and/or move completed planets into sector(s).

Once you integrate them you can move those new systems into sectors as well and deal with them one by one.

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>>174331893
>researching galaxies
are we playing the same game, anon?

Holy shit imagine having multiple galaxies to explore once you're at an advanced stage of the game

>empire is turned into cockroaches by spooky virus
>also made my species more intelligent
swings and roundabouts I guess

>>174332042

>you are now the prethoryn swarm

Exterminaturs DLC when?

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>>174332042

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

>>174332042
I mean solar systems but, going to other galaxies would be some fine ass end-game shit

>>174332042
>>174332178
There are already mods with several galaxies in.

>>174332178
Go away Noire.

>Custom faction is originally individualistic/xenophobe
>Works fine
>Banks releases
>Egalitarian side of my nation is constantly at the xenophobes' collective throats.

Why did this have to happen? Why can't I have a faction that's just for the equal rights of my species rather than everyone? I wanted to play as a federation of loosely-united human clans or something sort of like space feudal japan, is that so much to ask for?

>>174332285
Yes, now play space sweden and let aliens fuck your women.

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>>174332042
Have you guys ever zoomed out really really far out in Space Engine?

When all the little points on the screen that were stars become galaxies, and then galaxy clusters, etc?

I want that.

>>174332280
Noire?

>>174331642
>>174331816
You already fucking have it.

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This is a really good starting system.

>>174332423
Is that modded?

>>174332350
There is nothing wrong with playing as multi-specie empires

How do you properly fight defensive wars in Stellaris? Here's what happens every time:
>using wormhole drive so I can fly all over my empire fast as fuck
>faggot empire and their buttbuddies declare war on me
>immediately start rushing their hyperlane fleet across my territory, taking out mining stations and such
>literally impossible to catch up to them with my fleet
So far it hasn't been a problem because they always end up sieging a planet so I can easily engage them, but if Paradox ever fixes the AI and they start attacking wormhole stations I'll be fucked
I also can't use a smaller fleet to jump faster because I need my entire fleet to be able to kill theirs
I once built a military station in a bottleneck to try and catch them but they just destroyed it in 2 days

>>174332452
No, vanilla.

>>174332178
That girl in the pic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dnr6PzEI_k

>Start new game
>3 FE a few AI empire, large galaxy
>spawn near 2 FE, an enigmatic fortress 1 jump away, an ether drake 3 jumps away and close to it a cosmic horror

I guess the galaxy is a small place after all.

>>174332492
Defensive stations with magnets

You silly goose

>>174332492
You just discovered the problem with Wormholes against human players
If they're smart and take out your womrhole stations you're going to be very fucked

>>174331376
Personally, I just install a mod that ups the core limit and never use them.

>>174332414
oh, that was easy then, thanks

>>174332487
BIG
ALIEN
COCK

>>174332487
I don't even mind that, and I do actually like the ability to make certain species have citizenship over others. Ones that have been part of my empire for a few generations and contribute to the army should be citizens, I just don't think every species should instantly get full citizenship with cultural conversion.

>>174332579
Luckily I never MP in Paradox games
>>174332571
I don't know what that means, sorry. When the enemy fleet arrived in the system with the station, they got pulled right on top of it and destroyed it in 2 days like I said
>>174331376
>>174332621
I used to think sectors were fucked conceptually but they're fucking great
>conquer like 6 planets from enemy empire
>put them all in a sector
>shit gives you +50 dosh and +100 minerals at 50% tax
Only two problems I have: The AI apparently loves producing shitloads of food, a sector like that gives me like +50, and if you allow redevelopment they keep destroying your slave processing facilities

>>174331442
> Have NAP with empire
> Declare war on its ally
> suddenly NAP busted, war
I didn't even know about the 10 year thing for a long time.

>>174324809
hy /gsg/ is hoi3 good yet?

>>174332571
I hate that defensive stations can't keep up later in the game, it seems like they get instantly destroyed as soon as they catch a fleet. I hate spending 1500 minerals just to make a fleet slowboat back outside the gravity well for an extra 15 days on their jump.

>>174332658
What about those plant guys? What are they gonna do? Give our women polen allergies?

>>174332807
You need to fully develop all planets before giving them to a sector.

must have mods?

>>174332947
Iserlohn style megafortresses when?

>>174332807
>Build happiness buildings throughout the sector.
>Turn off demolishing them.
>AI never actually staffs them, everyone stays mad, starts rebelling.

It's like the governor is doing this shit on purpose.

>>174332941
Ye, with Black Ice

>>174332423
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

>Want to play CK2
>Literally $200 worth of DLC

Which of the expansions are absolutely mandatory?

>>174332947
Oh yeah maybe I should have mentioned that this was at a point where everyone was running around with 30k+ fleet power
>>174332983
They were fully developed planets that I conquered from someone else, I put in a slave processing facility and built a few armies to combat unrest, but the sector AI tends to destroy the facility

Cabbage here, I met some hostile aliens apparently and had to be chased out of the solar system, they have 10x the military power, what do? Are they space barbs?

>>174332492
Wormhole stations are good for leaping long distances in a short time. Its not ideal for defensive play.

>>174333064
What's wrong anon?

>>174333136

They the space barbs coming for your women cabbages. Run cabbage

>>174333029
I would just revamp them so they take like 90% less damage for the first few days of combat and slowly ramp it up. Or cause structures to enter a siege mode where long range ships bombard them until they're soft enough for a direct attack.

Would probably be better for mining stations too, remove their weapons but make killing them take longer than 3 days with a fleet.

>>174333089
GSG will probably be more help but off the top of my head.
Most important ones are
Conclave, Legacy of Rome, and Sons of Abraham.
Monks, Reapers, and Way of Life after that.
Raj, Islam, Horselords if those nations interest you
Sunset if you want memes.
Dont buy contact packs, or the converter.

I thought it was kinda boring at release but I re-pirated it now with all the DLC and this game is fucking fun even after the midgame. I just love obliterating fleets with plasma cannons
What's the point of habitability though? Obviously you can't colonize if it's too low, but even a 40% habitability planet is fucking fine, 40% happiness doesn't even lower your production

>>174333089
Conclave, Old Gods, Sons of Abraham, Charlemagne, Way of Life, Horse Lords. Monks and Mystics and The Reaper's Due are both pretty alright but by no means mandatory.

If you like the game though buy all the DLC. It typically enhances any paradox experience.

>Stellaris babby
>Play Religious Civ
>Get baller as planets, Size 24 with good surrounding resources
>Managed to get fucked by having too weak of a military
>Do military Civ
>Get fucked on surrounding planets, no resources other than Industry and Society
>Eventually having to go neg on Energy Bucks and hope I eventually find a planet with Energy

Am I being autism incarnate or is the game actually being unfair?

>>174333161
Overall it's definitely worth it, especially with the speed and range upgrades
>gotta build a station here, I'll just bring over my construction ship from the other side of the galaxy
>declare war, immediately jump your fleet 10 systems deep right to their homeworld

>Fallen empire has a bunch of primitives just outside their border
>boost the primitives up to Space age and then integrate their planets into my empire
>end up taking a pretty decent chunk of the fallen empires space including an entirely Destroyed, useless Ringworld
I don't know if destroyed ringworlds are useful, but it is neat as fuck to look at and know it is in my Space

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>>174332807

This button.

>>174333328
Having too weak of a military is your fault
Not compensating for a low energy start is your fault.

>>174333209
Oh no, we can't let our women turn into borscht.

What can I do?

thanks for recommending the spider manga to me, but what the fuck is the story in it about?

>>174333386
What did you think I meant when I said "and if you allow redevelopment"? I want them to demolish some of the fucking food buildings

>>174333328

Nah, just luck

>>174333089
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=64425
Download the DLCs, the cracks and follow the instruction for the steamapi one.
Delete Docs/Paradox Entertrainment/Crusader Kings II except for the saves, launch the launcher in the ck2 folder then open the game on steam.

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Status of current game. Awakened empire to the north still has equivalent fleet power to my 300k, everyone else is inferior or pathetic and doesn't have a single fleet that can stand up to half of my doomstack.

Should I fuck up the awakened or kill the small fries first?

>>174333475
Should have laid down the blueprint BEFORE handing off to the sector governor, kid
one of the reasons master of nature is so nice is you can blueprint the whole planet in 1 day without suffering home world penalties

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>Xenophobe Militarists

[ANGREY LETTUCE SOUNDS]

>>174333583
I was told this website is a honeypot from russian hackers.

>>174333265
> buy all the DLC
Infiltration Check failed
Johann pls go

>>174333605
Something looks wrong with this map.
> Sight lines
> Only in one territory
> Floating asstons of resources
Aha! Buy some sensor treaties, they're basically free. they'll tell you who to kill next.

>>174333648

I hope you setlle a planet named Prophet's Retreat

>>174333651
Yeah they're the same ones who hacked the election bro, you should watch out for them

>>174333749
I don't get it

Made a human empire.
Found Sol. There are mind uploads on Mars. Signs of battle and debris fields by Saturn. Earth itself is uninhabited.
Time to colonize.

>>174333261
Bro where'd you get your stellaris? My version is old and crashes all the time.

>>174333759
My time is eve online has taught me to wary of russian slime