/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

First for non-anime gamedevs

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post "hit another!" in this thread and good code will come to you!

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>*refunds your game*

Whatcha gonna do about it, fuckboy?

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Post your loli jam progress!
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-loli-jam-2017

Seven days left!

>>174153539
my game takes 1 sec to complete. everything else is bonus

>>174153572
Not gonna make it in months let alone a week.
I'm a shitter who shouldn't even try to make games.

>>174153539
>play game for 100 hours
>get full refund
GENIUS IDEA!

>>174153539
Feel free.

Hell, feel free to pirate my game.
If you don't think it's worth your money, it isn't.

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Recommend me some Ancient Egyptian pyramid enemies I could add

>>174153539
>my game is a boring pretentious walkiung simulator with ccrudely shoved in political message, why are people refunding it?!

really compiles my code

>>174153867
The Rock

>>174153867
anubis

>>174153867
Cute dog bois

>>174153539
my game is going to be opensource, since I'm not going to be able to prevent people from pirating it, anyways. I'll still sell it on steam.

>>174153539
make a better game

>>174153867
KEK

>>174154092
Why not just offer it for free with a PayPal link for donations?

>>174154185
because steam garners more attention, it is it's own type of marketing.

>>174153867
ur mum

>>174153867
scorpion golem made of sarcophagi

>>174153539
In a way I'm pretty much of the same opinion: your main game can last one hour and a half and be great and working, a refund in that case would be being an asshole.
On the other hand, the people who pull this off are always unreliable shitty artsy indie devs, and they would probably abuse it.
Somebody could make a survival/crafting game with no ending, a 1 hour tutorial, 10 minutes of actual gameplay and be like: "Refund window 59 minutes :^)"
In the end, I think time-based refund systems are shit and you can have too many trust issues. Boils down too much to bad dev/good dev. Let's find some other way, please.
>>174153867
Spike traps from the ground.
Rattlesnakes.
Rattlesnakes in pots.
Falling rocks (and pots).
Anubis and other gods.
Living hieroglyphs (sketches like birds that come alive and let stuff fall on you?)

>>174154278
Enjiy paying >$1000 to get on Steam after greenlight is kill

>>174154331
what?

if you can beat the game within the refund window, then its not a real game

and the refund window is 4 hours

if you get bored with the game after only 3 1/2 hours of ply time, its a shit game and you want your money back

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Not much to report this week honestly. I have compressed the 6 backgrounds used in the intro stage down to 3 and I have been redrawing them from scratch (at over 2x the size) based on the feedback from DD13.

Also I buffed Lore so she no longer loses black flames when using her Burst (but it still runs off of a gauge to determine damage and score bonus). It grazes the same regardless if the gauge is 100% or 1% though so even if you don't use it for damage it still has uses for her scoring mechanics. I cannot help that she is my favorite. Probably because she was the first moth I made

>>174154485
The refund window is under 2 hours of play within 14 days of purchase. Steam has been known to stretch those numbers a bit to allow more refunds but those that is the official window.

I have a concept for a game. If I wanted to make a 2d paper mario esque game, would either unity or game maker studio be good choices? I am completely new at this

(from previous thread)

>>174154621
Unity because you can move and rotate sprites in 3d space

>>174154704

is that a joke

>>174154485
>"if you can beat the game within the refund window, then its not a real game" (?)
>and the refund window is 4 hours (it's actually 2)
>implying the game has got me bored in 3 1/2 hours or it's just the lenght
Weak bait, pham.
>>174154621
Paper Mario-esque? As in, completely 2D flat stuff or 2D in a 3D world? If it's the first GameMaker, the latter Unity.

>>174154590
>>174154775

did they recently changed it?

I got refund on 3 1/2 hour of the new deus ex

I explained that it wasn't a real deus ex game it was more like a mgs game and i didnt want that and i got the refund $25

>>174154621
Godot might work for you, it's easier to use than Unity, and has better 3D than Gamemaker.

>>174154884
Typically if a game is panned universally they make an exception for it and extend the limits of when it can be refunded (see No Man's Sky)

>>174154767
I thought that was paper Mario's whole gimmick. If you want straight 2d then go with GM.

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Is it normal to lose inspiration for a little while? I dont know what I did but christ the depression is kicking in hard lately.

Why did blender just fuck up the neutral pose?

>>174155373
Just be yourself

>>174154767
Its hard to believe but yes, Unity has that capability.

>>174154621
+1 to "if only 2d, gm, if any 2.5d or 3d, unity" response

>>174153867
make Indiana Jones a boss

>>174154621
>>174155082
Godot has better everything than Gamemaker

>>174155798
Stop trying to recruit plebs to the godot club.

>>174155798
Except games.

>>174155798
I've seen people say this for who knows how long and still there are 0 godot games.

>>174155967
Isn't that your job?

>>174155373
Take a small break. Emphasis on small, no more than a week.

>>174155967
There are games, they're just unfinished.

>>174156031
that's because people who keep talking about godot on /agdg/ don't actually make games, they just want to irritate people on cantonese cartoon board

>>174156031
The Deponia series is Godot, but they also made the engine. Freedom Wars is a cool looking open source game made in Godot but it's not done.

>>174156031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sJFMyI3eZ0

>>174153867
Scarabs are a must. Various Egyptian gods are also an obvious choice. Jackals, or whatever type of animal they think the iconographic Egyptian dog is supposed to represent these days. Floating possessed canopic jars.

>>174155379
Seriously what the fuck. It just suddenly decided to double the distance between the foot control bones and the feet, fucking up every single animation I've made so far.

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The reload animation just loops on and on instead of switching to idle sprite once it finishes.

what am I missing?

>>174154586
i would recommend probably not fucking with the background too much yet and instead just make really quick readability changes like throwing up a fog between it and the gameplay space or using a shader which lowers the contrast

its easy to make a lot of revisions on the same pieces of art so its usually good to minimize that by going and working on other portions of the game which arent in yet at all but keep the same feedback in mind when creating those other parts

>>174153385
>Excluding FPS
Kek you're just a bunch of cookie cutters scared to even acknowledge 3D genres.

>>174156658
Where's your game?

>>174156560
there isnt really enough code here to tell exactly what the problem is but my gut would say the problem would be something like one of these this
>it does go to idle at the end but then restarts the reload
>the animation is 14 frames long so you are checking an index that it will never reach
>setting state doesnt actually do anything

i would start by putting a breakpoint where it sets the state back to idle and seeing if it gets hit when you expect it to

>>174156658
>FPS
>3D genre
>the FPS genre was pioneered by 2D games

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I need a pathfinding system that:
>Gets a list of points
>Creates a path that goes through all of them
>Starting at any of those points
>And going through all the others in any order
>Returns the shortest path

Any ideas?

>>174157156
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_colony_optimization_algorithms

>>174157156
This is the traveling salesman problem.

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>>174156857
>it does go to idle at the end but then restarts the reload
not possible, it goes to reload state only on pressing R, there is no reason for it to got there again if I'm not holding anything

>the animation is 14 frames long so you are checking an index that it will never reach
hm, yeah, it's 14 frames long
wait first frame in 14 frame animation is index 0 and last is index 13?
well I tried to se it to 13 and even 15, but it keeps looping

>setting state doesnt actually do anything
it returns to idle from everything else, so I guess
if image_index = whatever
{
state = states.idle
}
is a wrong instruction to use here
god all of this just makes me feel stupid

the moment I fix something and move on to something else the wall just grows taller and taller

>>174156594
This is honestly good advice. Unfortunately I had already convinced myself that at least one of the three layers needs a complete redraw. However I will be taking your suggestion and just altering the remaining 2 as efficiently as possible via code or 'tricks'. I still have lots to add from the feedback and I still really want to have a proper stage 2 included for DD14.

Thank you, anon!

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rewrote the tile-neighbor indexing system and added functionality to place and remove individual tile instances at runtime.
p-progress

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how's the modeling going, anon?

>>174156863
>twisting yourself into mental knots to avoid admitting someone was right
Hi gogem

PLAY MY GAME YOU DUMBFUCKS

>>174158460
shut up gogem

>>174158460
what if i buy it and don't play?
what if i pirate it and play a lot?

>>174158526
>what if i buy it and don't play?
fine

>what if i pirate it and play a lot?
fine as long as you shill it too

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>>174157965
Even I don't want to know how bad it is. And I'm also stuck since I can't make good enough references, which means I have to grind drawing like a madman.
Here's the most ok thing I made.

>when a crazy idea that vastly improves my game pops up

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>>174157965
Doing a "city" mockup real quick to see how it looks like ingame

Is it wrong if I like vector aesthetic? You know, the contemporary stuff that dominates corporate design and advertising? But have game art direction in that style

>>174158995
Is it "wrong"? I associate it with mobile and flash games in most cases, but I'm sure it could be executed well. Most any style can.

>>174157371
Really surprised no one caught this.
Unless GM is lazy and let's you mix assignment with equality. It needs to be if image index == whatever

>>174159134
It does, actually. It's also really liberal with where semicolons are required. In both cases I wish it wasn't since it's instilled some bad habits in me.

>>174158995
Pixel art looks better

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REEEEEE

how do you make a comfy background for your sidescroller

>>174159431
Draw a happy face on it

>>174159134
>>174159359
guys I think it's because the image speed is less than 1 so image index 13 does fuck all

>>174159431
Use other colors for starters

>>174159540
It's possible. Seems to me like that wouldn't be the issue; an image speed greater than 1 could skip sprite frames, but it doesn't seem like a speed less than 1 ought to. Either way, using anything other than an integer for image speed seems like it's probably bad practice to me (I don't know much about much, though).

What new project should I start today?

>>174159859
I tried it
the check literally doesn't work beyond number 12, even with a 16 frame animation

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>>174160174
An h-game.
Even low quality rpg maker ones can get you 800 per month.

>>174157156
Is this bait? If this is bait then it is incredibly well put together, it takes real skill to rustle jimmies with such restraint rather than just making some dumb statement about engines.

>>174160264
game dev already makes me want to kill myself enough, I'll maintain the shreds of what's left of my dignity, thanks though!

What will be the theme for the June Jam after DD14?

>>174160359
I just wanted some guidance in pathfinding... :3c
http://dmhacker.github.io/sim/tsp/

>>174160174
Yep i agree with >>174160264
Monster girl island is quite nice though when i see it in phub. You just gotta know what the community wants and you're set.

>>174160264
Is this what it's like to be a woman? Knowing that you could make huge bank by sullying yourself and having to live with that struggle?

>>174160559
Kind of, except women actively enjoy sullying themselves, so they get to enjoy it.

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I think having the top be a park is looking way better than the crappy building I had before.

>>174160616
Black spikes aren't cute, it looks like a graveyard.

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Got somewhat-useable animations in to do stuff based on your speed.

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>>174160616
currently working on the object of the level to be getting cubes across the street, unlocking the gate and doing some puzzles in the park.

>>174160505
Okay, I'll bite - you're describing the travelling salesman problem, it's an incredibly difficult problem to solve other than by brute force approaches. There are some indications that a quantum computer could solve it in non-polynomial time so maybe try that?

can you sell lewd games made in gamemaker? they had something in their docs about not allowing lewds

>>174160778
Post webm dodgin obstacles, pls
Also, play wipeout music in the background!

So what's the market like for VR h-games? Absolutely garbage like the rest of VR?

>>174160616
>>174160793

You are bloating your game with too much content when you could be making sequels or DLC instead.

How good is SDL for making 2D games? Should I instead learn OpenGL? Should I use löve and forget about enginedevving?

>>174160821
I see... Then I'll have to drop learning unity, and jump into quantum computers!

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Doing some level design and a bit of bugfixing for squaredev.

>>174161020
SDL? That's the weirdest fucking idea for a game I've ever heard of, bar none. So fucking weird that it could be kind of interesting for a puzzle game.

>>174160616
How often do you sit down and play levels start to finish? It doesn't seem like you playtest often but maybe I am wrong

>>174161020
If you use SDL you're probably going to use OpenGL along with it unless you can keep your rendering operations really basic. SDL just handles a number of portability concerns for you like making windows and stuff.

>>174161041
>working for FREE

>>174161036
It's not impossible that the NSA have some sort of quantum computer for decrypting RSA, maybe send yourself an email saying "bombs bombs isis impending terrorist attack hey NSA can you help me with my game?" and they might get back to you?

>>174161087
Ignore this, I was thinking of SQL the database query language.

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>>174160913
Also featuring Unity missing high-speed collisions, which I'll have to fix.

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Is this hamster graphics lib good or is it just a meme?

>>174161201
Ok, I'll give that a try, thanks

>>174161398
The hell are you talking about?

>>174161394
that looks like the most unresponsive way to control your character in an infinite runner or w/e your game is

>>174161605
That's supposed to be part of it. It's sort of based on a 2d mobile game I played way back, where you draw a path and a guy skis down it.

>>174161708
the concept looks really cool but i wouldn't play more than a couple of runs on it.

>>174161823
I'm mostly making it because it seems small enough for me to finish. There's also another obstacle currently, which are zones that you can't draw you path in and have to jump through.

>>174161410
Jokes aside though, computing the shortest circuit is going to be really computationally heavy for large circuits - do you need to compute it often or is it something that you just need to do once per level kind of thing?

>>174161020
>SDL
>OpenGL
Enjoy never finishing anything, there's nothing leet or cool about writing low level code for a 2d game

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>muh quantum computers

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Would a game where you blog in a dystopian european union politically incorrect opinions, trying to avoid being canned while keeping up popularity a fun one, agdg?

Would it be wasteful to run a shader that requires light fixtures be present in the scene in order for a sprite to be visible? In other words, if there are no lights present, the sprite will be rendered completely black. I want to do this so I can handle both lightening and darkening of sprites by using(or not using) light fixtures in the room.

I just feel like it wouldn't be worth the trouble, since I'll have to manually light each and every scene so that things look right. On the other hand, I can manually light each and every scene so that things look right. Eh.

>>174161394
Looks cool anon Keep it up

>>174162251
nice papers please clone

>>174162195
t. unity asset store kiddy

>>174160559
>>174160610
Women don't "sully themselves", men actively abuse them and pay them for that.

>>174162251
I wouldn't even pirate it 2bh but someone might like it

>>174160616
I agree with >>174160753, the park looks like it's a graveyard. Until you said it's a park, that's what I thought it was.

>>174162251
Sounds dumb to be honest.

Where do metroidvanias and vns go on that tier list?

>>174161041
>DOING LEVEL DESIGN FOR PEDO GAMES MADE BY PEDOS FOR PEDO JAM
I SERIOUSLY HOPE YOU DON'T DO THIS
Nah just kidding, looks fun.

>>174162251
Nice The Republia Times clones

>>174162814
it is, though.

>>174161983
>>174162215
Once per level, at the start.
The idea is to create levels procedurally, and then have the pathfinding system find the shortest path, in order to rate the player's doing based on it (perfect = 3 stars, <2 segments = 2 stars, >2 segments = 1 star)

>>174161562
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/153100152/#153129497

>>174163273
Why didn't you just say Vulkan?

>>174154331
> Ancient Egyptian theme
> suggests a snake family native to the Americas only
Anon, please.

>>174163503
I didn't remember the name

>>174153683
It should be some kinda formula. Where t is the approximate number of minutes it takes to complete the game, 120*(t/1000) + sqrt(t)*2, where a game that takes 10 hours would give you 2 hours before a refund, a 1 hour game would give you about 22 minutes, and a 200 hour game would give about 28 hours. Seems fair to me.

>>174153539
I'd be glad they played my game to begin with

Anyone else here /vr/ dev?

Does anyone actually write game/level design on paper/whiteboard or do you guys design while programming? Trying to figure out a workflow.

>>174163916
i just try make game

>>174163850
Nah I don't make retro games.

>>174163916
Level design in engine will allow you to iterate faster and quickly test sections

Game design is similar but prototyping can take a long time so a design document might be more appropriate.

>>174163916
I don't use a whiteboard because I don't have one, and I don't use paper because I don't want to waste paper. But I do use Google docs and sheets to do some designing.

I've found that it's a bad idea to create really in depth designs, because you really don't know what it will be like once it's in game. Just make rough outlines and continue to refine it as you're programming it.

>>174164191
>>174164086

What do you guys tend to write in your documents? I'm trying to flesh out mechanics like weapons and abilities but not sure if I should just be programming that shit

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>>174163916
i get an idea and quickly get a working prototype with the newfound motivation.

then i create a design document, stop devving for 2 months straight and give up on the project

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I'm making a mobile zombie game with voxel graphics and you CAN NOT fucking stop me.

However. Twin stick shooter, or Tap-To-Move/Attack?

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>>174163916
I have one of these, I use it as a $1200 whiteboard most of the time.

>>174163916
> Does anyone actually write game/level design on paper/whiteboard

Design documents help a lot for any bigger project or when you are working in a team. And I like to keep a little book for misc stuff (ideas, doodles, calculations, algorithms, whatever) just because it's nice to have something physical where you can get your eyes off the screen for a little while - somehow that works better for me than a bunch of digital files which could have the exact same content.

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Speedrunners love this one simple bug

>>174163916
I have a "design document", to put it generously
the more immediate or specific the task, the closer to the beginning of the file it is, going from things I'm currently working on to things I'm going to add later to more conceptual ideas to ideas for future games

>>174164937
AGDQ?

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what I've put together today
it's not much and what's there is broken as shit, so I'm very far from happy with myself

>>174153683
>gane dev
>doesnt understand percentages
only time you would get a full refund is if you never even tried to play it
i assume the percentage is playtime/expected playtime so playing for 100 hours would have different results on different games
100hplaytime:200hgame = 50% refund
100hplaytime:100hgame = 0% refund
100hplaytime:50hgame = -50% refund
sounds fair to me

>disable vignette effect in my camera pawn in ue4
>its still on by default
>have to enable it but set all values to 0 to turn it off
dank

>>174165379
Who sets the expected playtime?
If the dev can set it, why wouldn't he set the lowest possible playtime to get as much money as possible?

>>174157350
>>174157156
Wait, not that guy but this is something different from traveling NPCs in games like Zelda/Skyrim/Witcher?

I was thinking about having something like those traveling NPCs in my game, but that's not incredibly hard to doin Unity, right?

>>174164542
>Tap-To-Move/Attack
You mean like in MOBAs? Fuck that noise. That control scheme feels terrible in every game but RTSes.

>>174165823
Well it's for mobile anon, it's like an RTS but one unit. Too difficult to control multiple.

I take it you're in the twin-stick category

>>174163916
I just keep an org-mode file of notes in my project root.

>>174164317
Anything that comes to mind that I can't implement immediately. I suppose I use it less for planning and more for keeping track of ideas so that I don't forget them.

>>174165574
got a problem with that?
control should belong with yesdev master race, not the filthy plens.

>>174164937
I really hope you don't fix that bug

>>174164542
twin stick. less finger movement.

>>174165967
>I take it you're in the twin-stick category
Yes, but I don't know how that's implemented in mobile games. I'm unfamiliar with mobile games in general, so I'd say you do what you think is best

>>174165379
This is incredibly stupid. Such a system actively incentivises devs to make games with short playtimes to protect themselves against exploitative refunds. Also, why the fuck should you get half the price of a game back just because you stopped playing halfway through? The refund mechanic isn't there to protect against you not liking a game - it's for games that are objectively broken and/or misleading in their marketing.

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started something new today, FTL inspired, got the navmesh working at least to allow creating ships dynamically, it's time to implement doors and crew members.
planned feature:
-tile based world map, maybe random generated
-events
-crew moral
-resource management (food, fuel...)
-can recruit a cute alien stripper to boost crew's moral
wish me luck

>>174166623
good luck space cowpoke

>>174166623
Please make highly customisable ships. That and non-bullshit RNG was all that FTL lacked imo.

>>174163916
Pen and paper is the most efficient way to take notes and go through in my opinion. I don't fully write down everything in detail on paper but I use it to do some math to decide the values, and write down all the features as bulet points so I have a general overview of my game.
Writing these in computer just somehow takes longer and feels like it doesn't get me in the zone to produce more ideas.

Does anyone know of a library/tool that can generate 3D noise? As far as I can tell libnoise only generates 2D noise. I need perlin and voronoi noise volumes

Post good habits that may be annoying to implement but will save you in the long run the sooner you implement them

>delta timing

>>174165312
I like the background, and the transitions form walking to standing to running etc are cool. But the animations feel like they're running at 10 fps

how many ms does your checking inputs take?

>>174166623
>-can recruit a cute alien stripper to boost crew's moral
highly dubious

>>174166008
I'm always skeptic, if someone suggests a change he would profit from.

>>174167082
Object pooling.

>>174161394
That looks like a lot of fun

>>174167082
delta time isn't annoying to implement at all.
Unless you're using Gamemaker or making your own engine.

>>174167715
what is annoying about delta timing in gamemaker?

>>174167715
It's not annoying to implement if you do it early. But having to go back through each time dependent thing and update them is annoying if you forget initially

though I'm using gamemaker

>>174167715
I had a little bit of trouble understanding the idea of it and implementing it in UE4.
But not because it's hard, rather because I'm a total novice.

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twinstick controls implemented

Is it possible for an object in unity to change its UV in realtime?
Because i need to do this for facial expressions.
If not is there another method to do this?

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>>174167202
thanks
I'm afraid to tamper with the room speed, because right now animations literally break and start looping and freezing with wrong image_speed
I'm about as much of a coder as I am a Kodiak bear.

can somebody translate this to english?
val = 2.0f * ((value> 0) ? 1.0f : -1.0f);

>>174168129
possible. create the array for new uv, assign it and then you have to call something like, mesh.update() so the new uvs will take effect. cant remember the exact function.

>>174165312
I wanna make a game like this

>>174168245
if (value> 0) {
val = 2.0f * 1.0f;
} else {
val = 2.0f * -1.0f;
}

>>174168178
What is your room speed? If it's 30, then change it to 60 right now before continuing and take an hour or so to go through your animation speeds and halve them. Then implement delta timing if you haven't

>>174168245
val is set equal to 2 times 1 if value is positive or -1 if value is negative
In other words, val is 2 if value is positive or -2 if otherwise

>>174168245
It's basically

val = (value > 0) ? 2.0f : -2.0f;

but written by a retard.
Really shitty variable names too.

>>174168245
condition ? value-if-true : value-if-false

>>174168328
Sorry for asking again. How about uvs? can a .blend file have 2 uvs at once. Sorry im quite illiterate.

>>174166718
customization was the point of starting this project, i'll make designing ships possible (smaller ships get a boost on evasion).
>>174167408
may infect your crew with space aids

>>174153539

So, unless he is complaining about refunds in any way, shape, or form, I assume he's mad because people finish in game and then refund it.

In which case, the obvious solution is not to make a game that lasts 2 fucking hours.

why would you possibly want delta time in a fucking 2D game you niggers

>>174168569
but what about cinematic experience?

>>174168656
Why wouldn't you, you retard

>>174168569
The vast majority of people would not refund a 1 hour game that was genuinely fun to play. No point to try to trick people into buying your shit game.

>>174168656
For the same reason you'd need it in a 3D game.

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>>174167082
Why not just use a fixed timestep

why would you possibly want >30 fps in a fucking 2D game you niggers

>>174168656

what the fuck does that have to do with anything you fucking brainlet, go finish watching anime

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>>174168407
>if it's 30, then change it to 60 right now before continuing and take an hour or so to go through your animation speeds and halve them

but walk speed is already 0.3 right now and idle is 0.2

>>174168757
>>174168793
>>174168834
xD

>>174168656
delta time has nothing to do with dimensions, you tit.

>>174168501
>can a .blend file have 2 uvs at once.
I dont know.
but in code you can reassign uv array.

this might help
https://forum.unity3d.com/threads/multiple-uvs-from-blender.169292/

>>174168878
>make a speed variable
>use constants
>switch from 30 to 60 with a single change

>>174168501
>can a .blend file have 2 uvs at once
You mean an object? You can have a blend file with however many objects you want with their separate UV maps, Unity will separate them into different gameobjects on import.

>>174168878
So idle will become 0.10 and walk will become 0.15. They'll look the same but your game will look less choppy
The only issue I potentially foresee is that because 0.15 (and 0.3 for that matter) aren't nice factors of 1.0 your image index won't add up to 1 and you might have some weird skipping in the sprite after a while

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pls
wtf is happening here and how do i fix it

>>174169487
His Octocamo is malfunctioning

>>174169173
I know about that.
I just need to know if you can overwrite UV maps in real time in unity since ill be working in facial expressions. It means that in the texture there could be a smiling, sad expression. So i need at least 2 UV's so that they can interchange.
>>174168989
Thanks!

>>174167752
Honestly I've never used Gamemaker, but from what I've seen it's not implemented correctly, or something. Every time I see someone using Gamemaker and try to use delta time there's always a ton of problems with it. This is why so many Gamemaker games are just locked to 30 or 60 FPS.

>>174168989
>>174169173
Or i could just put the expressions in other file. And make an object for expressions.
Sorry i was making it complicated...

>>174169487
it's not a problem with the camera clipping ranges is it?

>>174161394
It looks very interesting but it's impossible to judge alignment and distances. There are a lot of things that work in 2D but can't just be slapped into 3D without issues, especially with a behind the back viewpoint. That being said, there are ways to accommodate, if you are clever (and not too stubborn) about it.

I'd suggest experimenting with other viewpoints at least. You could, for instance, try making something that controls more like it's 2D with views from the sides or top but with a dynamic camera and on-rails levels that take advantage of the 3D.

Just my thoughts; I know you're just starting.

>>174169487
Looks like z-fighting. It happens when the gpu tries to render 2 polygons at the exact same coordinates. It randomly puts one over the other, so it looks like it's flashing.

So, your model probably has duplicated faces. Try to open it in a 3d modelling program, click (not drag, click) on 1 face to select it, delete it, and see if there's a hole, or another face.

Btw, make sure to look at the hole from inside, too. Backface culling might prevent you from seeing the duplicated face from outside the model.

>>174168407
>>174169291
>>174169145
alright, I've changed it so that it now runs at 60 but webmcam won't let me record the game at that framerate for some reason
it records at 30 even when set to capture at 60, so I can't really show if it looks better now

>>174170335
Get OBS and webmmaker

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Weapons, projectiles, VFX implemented.

Next step: Zombos.

>>174169487
looks fine to me

>>174168042
>>174170464

why are you rationing progress?

>>174170165
>>174169487
Blender has a "remove doubles" option where it removes any double vertex in your selection, and iirc, backface culling is off by default, if you want to enable/disable it, it's under the lateral menu you get by pressing N.

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>download Unity to just mess around and create some basic prototypes
>the installer installs fucking Visual Studio 2017 alongside it

Great, now I have three different versions of VS installed at the same time.

>>174171021
The set up is tedius and pretending I have friends helping me makes it less boring

>>174170464
I like that twin stick implementation, looks like it would be better than the usual on-screen virtual buttons.
Now I want to make a mobile game with this control.

>>174171178
>he fell for the Unity meme

>>174163916
im game designer and i write on paper

your game will be literal shit 99% of the time if you just mostly go with the flow

you need to have a clear idea first, then minor features can happen with time

>>174171178
>have to do serious debugging
>install VS
>Oops you need this update :^)
>been installing for an hour
>can't tell if the bars moved since
>afraid to restart and waste more time
I can't wait until games move fully to Linux. Kill me.

>>174171021
>rationing progress
what did he mean by this?

>>174169912
Nope.

>>174170165
>Looks like z-fighting.
Not that either. I've tried "removed doubles" already".

>>174171126
Turning on backface culling revealed some issues with normal facing that apparently weren't solved by "recalculate normals". I'll do it manually and see what happens. Thanks.

>>174171462
Just develop on Linux?

>>174171734
>Turning on backface culling revealed some issues with normal facing that apparently weren't solved by "recalculate normals". I'll do it manually and see what happens. Thanks.
Post a screenshot please, I'm curious. Blender is fucking garbage at normals, I'm always having issues with them.

>>174171737
I need a Windows version.
Luckily there's always something to do but it's still annoying that there's no real alternative to VS's debugger.

>>174171462
>I can't wait until games move fully to Linux.
Godot is the savior you seek. Godot 3 will even support C# and C++. Walk into the light, be embraced by Godot.

>>174172185
SDL2 already supports Linux :^)

>>174172185
I don't need meme engines, I already have my own. I just need either Windows to stop being a relevant games platform or a better/less hassle way for decent debugging.

>>174172308
>better/less hassle way for decent debugging.
Have you tried CLion yet? The debugger it has it comparable to VS's but it runs on Linux as well.

>>174171737
are you insane

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>>174171462
>t. stupid linux mongoloid
VS is the superior way of experiencing programming. Your FOSS will never be able to compete.

>>174172401
I'm about to, having to pirate an IDE is a little silly though

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>>174171883
Have fixed like half of them by now

>>174163916
I use paper to help me think logically when I'm figuring out algorithms for procedural generation. It helps to draw them step by step before implementing it in the code, for me at least.

>>174172520
I actually agree that VS is a better choice for debugging, when it works.
But the FOSS will never interrupt your workflow like this.

>>174172568
What

Just select the whole thing and smooth normals??

>>174173158
I'd already done that and it didn't work. But now I've fixed them manually and I still get the exact same flickering. It's like the UV gets torn up when it animates

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ughghghghgg

>>174173480
>It's like the UV gets torn up when it animates
You sure you've properly mapped the texture to the model's UV and not just forgot to change it from flat projection ?

>>174173480
You're sure you haven't accidentally keyframed the UVs or somehting?
That flickering doesn't look like it has anything to do with normals.

>>174172568
post UV unwrap

>>174173653
What. That's a fully textured model, you blind nig

>>174173653
Is this wrong? I mean it looks perfectly right in the viewport with Rendered shading.

>>174173676
>You're sure you haven't accidentally keyframed the UVs or somehting?
I might have fat-finger something like that. How would I check for it?

stick to programming codemonkeys, leave the modeling to the artists

>>174174023
Check your Dope sheet window

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>is this wrong
forgot pic related

>>174174036
who needs programmers when you have blueprints :-)

>>174174285
Blueprints are programming.

blueprinters are the manlets of programmers

>>174173813
That doesn't mean it's textured right. I don't know how other texture coordinates work in detail but if it's wrong, it'll render wrong.

>>174174023
>>174174191
That looks right.
Honestly I would say your issue is with rendering if it looks right in the viewport.

How many projects/devs have we lost this year so far?

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>>174174581
too many

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first time poster here. Been messing around with 3d in game maker studio.

any tips or nice guides on turning this into a dungeon delver?

>wake up
>it's 2017
>there is a fucking moba on mobile devices
Do you do mobile shit /agdg/?

>>174174937
>moba on mobile devices
still less cancerous than every freemium ever made

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Fresh, free memes

>>174175058
fuck you

>>174175023
Yeah, what I meant was that apparently anything is doable on mobile these days

>>174175186
no u

>>174174575
>I don't know
You should have just stopped there.

Why are nodevs so fond of pretending to know stuff?
You faggots are insufferable.

>>174175286
where is your game

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Desperately adding juice to my game to delay thinking about what to do with it.

>>174175201
but can you get the mobile pregnant?

>>174175372
On my disc drive, plus a couple of backups.

Where is your reason for existing?
Where is your reason for being here, if you don't make games?
Why don't you actually try to do something with your pathetic life?
Why are you here?
Why do you pretend to know things you obviously don't understand?

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>>174174141
I can't find anything that seems to have anything to do with UV map keyframes here.

And like the other guy said, perhaps it's the rendering settings since it previews correctly. But I can't for the life of me figure out what.

>>174175559
I'm not seeing much game in this post

>>174153867
cat mummies

>>174175606
Then I don't know, man.

Try using the Cycles renderer instead?

A game about interrogating people with memes and finding out who is the poser and who is the true memer.

>>174175058
>unity palette is colorful
>unreal palette is all gray
>gamemaker palette is rgb

what did he mean by this

>>174174750
Yeah, but what/who?

>>174175868
Engines don't define colour palette though.

>>174175058
what's your endgame

>start new project
>already know all the things I have to code and make
>feel overwhelmed and don't know where to start
>end up doing nothing
;_;

>>174175745
I'll do that unless the guy I just sent it figures something out or a smoke break clears my head.

Thank you and everyone else who help me out; I appreciate it and learned some new things.

>>174176218
Where is your (end)game?

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>>174174937
>>174175201
I'm making a 3D twinstick zombo game in UE4 for mobile :^)

Guys, for a CCG, i know i can build a base class "card" and then inherit from it, but how would i go about implementing generic "abilities" such as flying, first strike, trample, etc?

>>174176667
nice

>>174176850
Probably the decorator pattern

>>174174908
No idea about GM 3D, but welcome, your game intrigues me

Any of you doing Ludum Dare next week?

I'm gonna be giving it a go. First game Jam. Quite looking forward to it.

Though I'm sure I'll end up with something completely poop, if I even finish anything.

>>174177354

Nah, short game jams like that are always too intense for me to do during the semester.

Good luck. Be decisive with your game mechanics and just follow through. Set aside time where you can get at least 6 hours of sleep, you won't get anything done while being miserably tired.

>>174177354
I might, if I can think of an idea for the theme.
And don't worry about it being poop or not. My first Ludum Dare game had all of about 5 seconds of gameplay before it started repeating. But it was still fun to do. And I've had a few Ludum Dares I never finished.

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>>174176667
Nice keep it going. You'll be successful anon. Kids like those kinds of games.

Also Progress report
Things Done:
Animation on the base model
Scene
Things need to be done/improved:
Lighting
Character Expressions
2 More character models
Some small assets for details.
Game Mechanics

>>174178685
SYARO IS CUBE
CUBE!!
But seriously, I would give priority to gameplay mechanics and do the rest later.

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>>174178685
Also i resized the textures. Gotta enlarge it again. If you look closely the cabinet degraded in terms of quality because of texture compression. I tried squaredevs and some other devs method of packing textures

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https://streamable.com/h4q5h

I came across a bug that made my game look like generic capeshit action scenes. Almost makes me want to code a special/focus mode just to trigger this.

>>174178851
Thats what im planning to do. i do the other characters first. ill do the mechanics.
Then ill work on making the scene nice.

>>174178898
Which part is the bug?

>>174178898
If you rigged those animations yourself then good fucking work. The flippy sword attacks get me and looks awesome.
10/10 bug, would replicate

>A sudden burst of idea guying strikes
Holy shit my game is going to have too many bosses

>>174178898
>300 mode

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>>174153385
Newfag here.
I kidna remembered that i have the license for Gamemaker and i was thinking here if it was possible to use it to make a 2D fighting game.

DO you guys have any examples of fightans made on Gamemaker? Any tutorials? Is it better for me to use other engine?

can anyone give me some examples of the type of scope I should be looking at for my first game? I've cloned the usuals but now I want to start making my own games.

>>174179654
You better be quick at animating because you'll have to make thousands of good animations for a legit 2D fighting game on top of the code

There's no reason GM wouldn't work though

>>174179747
Mayhem League dev would say that you should just make your dream game first. But then again he's gone MIA
It would help to know what kind of game you're thinking about. But err on the small side

>>174179932
>But then again he's gone MIA
He was posting there not longer than a week ago

>>174179747
Something that relies on a skill that you have on at least proficient level.

>>174179932
He posts frequently, but on a new game based on the old one maybe because the old one became unmaintainable due to him starting gamedev with his dream game and not knowing best practice initially

>>174179932
mayhem league is a prime example of why you should NOT jump at your dream project first or enginedev soon after you wrote your first hello world
it died because dev dug himself into a hole with animation system from which adding and tweaking content required terrible effort
he's working on a "cuhrayze" banjo-style game now

>>174179747
I did FZero, I think that is a good 'real' game to try

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>>174161041
Darnit, squaredev. We are making similar games.

>>174179932
>thousands of animations
hold the fucking phone, Skullgirls literally holds a Guinness world record for most frames of 2D animation in a video game and it doesn't even come close to 1,000 animations total

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done with doors, i'll deal with animation later, no bugs so far, now it's time to deal with the crew

>>174180082
>>174180221
>>174180275
I stand corrected, and I'm now really sad because I really wanted to play it. Is his the robot 3D platfomer?

>>174180885
I meant frames, which honestly might also be bullshit. But the point is that you'll definitely hundreds and hundreds of high quality frames. If you're down then go for it

>>174180275
He has already accomplished more than most here. I'd say it worked out quite well for him.

>>174180885
>>174181052
"Skullgirls was also recognized in the 2013 Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition for the most frames of animation per character, reaching 11,515 total frames for its initial eight characters and averaging 1,439 frames per fighter."

>>174180885
>>174181110
lol BTFO

>>174179932
>You better be quick at animating
I want to work with sketches based on the moves rather the characters themselves, then ill look into animating.

I'm trying to find some decent tutorials but no luck so far.

>>174178898
Source on the song? Or was it made specifically for your game?

>>174180885
Skullgirls has a shitload of frames but after watching one of their presentations on animation most of the frames are inbetweens.

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The lines have been straightened.

what is the most successful game ever to come out of AGDG??

>>174181637
how'd you fix it?

>>174181779
eighter rocket league or risk of rain

>>174181779
Social Interaction Trainer

>>174181779
Monster girl island

>>174181779
RoR you newfag shitter

Anyone around for more than five minutes would know that.

>>174181839
>Rocket League
durrrrr
Mayhem

>>174181779
mine (soon)

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>>174181952
Yeah silly me,

>>174181952
How is Mayhem League successful? It never went beyond the "fairly cool webms" stage.

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>>174182000
damn son

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>>174175058
Hey, you
Who wrote the code language that you'll be using when making your own game engine
Yeah fuck you

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>>174181812
I paid 99 cents for a license off the yoyo asset store for a shader and script that fixes it. This is the only kind of purchase off the asset store I'd consider to be remotely worth it. https://marketplace.yoyogames.com/assets/4720/draw-sprite-pos-fixed.

The default draw_sprite_pos function is broken and can't be fixed on its own without building a shader or doing stuff in d3d mode. I have no desire to use d3d mode at this time and I am not a real programmer so shaders are also
far above my ken. I'd rather skip out on a coffee today and have a fixed shader and script that I know works than pre-bake in the texture for the floor.

>>174182236
That's a stupid question to direct towards me rather than the guy who claimed it was successful, but I'll answer anyway. It made money.

No, it wasn't as successful as RoR by a longshot, so the guy who rates it on par with RoR is a dumbass.

>>174181839
>>174181952
I think you mean Lethal League.
But Risk of Rain has about 3 times as many owners as Lethal League does.

>>174182360
It's don't worry, it's okay to rely on others.

>>174182360
I found that item on the marketplace when I was looking up solutions to your problem last night. I don't blame you for buying it, it's a pretty cool asset for a buck. I somewhat considered it myself just for the hell of it.

>>174182457
>It made money
It was never released, did I miss some kikestarter or something?

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>>174182529
>Lethal
This fucking one

>>174182360
>having to pay for bugfixes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>174182360
>having to pay money to fix a problem that the engine should have been fixed by the engine devs themselves

Amazing business model.

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>>174182529
>I think you mean Lethal League.
Turns out I'm retarded too.

>>174182623
See
>>174182529

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>>174182759
>>174182781
The most rageworthy part is that I know that if I ever make the jump to Gamemaker 2 YOYOGAMES DIDN'T FIX IT THERE EITHER.

>>174182759
>not knowing what a bugfix is
A function that doesn't do what some greenhorn wants it to do is not inherently "bugged".