/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

>tfw almost no free time to work on my game

Which agdg games would you unironically buy at a fair price?

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im making my first game in unity and its an infinite runner
when the character jumps and then lands, most of the time they clip through the ground for a single frame
sometimes the player gets stuck on the ground and im forced to jump to let the player out
wat do

Do most people deserve to live, /agdg/?

>>174096331
1. don't use unity for 2D

protip: don't use unity for 3D, either

>>174096459
wtf i hate unity now

>>174096431
No.

>>174096321
I can't name a single agdg game

>>174096321
Mine, Space Dementia, CTESiphon and Monolith

And possibly something by Theonian, but he'll probably never complete anything ever.

>>174096321
I'd unironically buy bokube for the fair price of $1. If it wasn't made in unity, I would buy it for the fair price of $5.

>>174096431
do i look like some kind of wise old man philosopher
i opened this general to talk about making video games

>>174096507
The Taunting of Gogem

The Ruining of Rotatedev

>>174096321
Well I'm definitely buying Monolith once it releases so there's that.
Most of the other games here are too early in development to say if they'll be good or not when they're done.

>>174096331
>Unity for 2D pixelgame
>infinite runner
Just stop.

>>174096507
>what is risk of rain
>what is minecraft

>>174096597
Why don't you think it's worth a higher price than that?

>>174096431
Absolutely not.

Or maybe they do. In my experience, living is its own kind of punishment.
Most people don't deserve to be content with living, imo

>>174096321
Monolith, Slipstream, Paper Mario bug game, maybe a few others I can't think of.

>>174096321
Maaaaaaaybe Monolith. Not my type of game, but it looks polished enough that I'd probably have fun with it. Can't really think of anything else I'd want to play to be honest. At least not anything that gets progress posted here regularly.

>>174096702
>>174096926
>>174096932
>Monolith
Link pls?

>>174096926
>Slipstream, Paper Mario bug game
Why?
They both look like trash, imo

>>174097001
Don't know why I'm shilling someone elses game for them, but here

https://monolithdevs.itch.io/monolith

>>174096321
(You)rs

>>174096804
Unity games have horrible gc pauses and lag as well as being nigh unplayable on weaker hardware even when they're simple and contain little assets. Thus, unity games cannot be worth more than $1 for normal games, $5 for GOTY-tier games.

Bokube is strewn with flaws (from the camera to the level design to the copied assets) that greatly diminish its value. On top of that, the concept is wholly unoriginal. Hence, it would not be worth more than $5.

>>174097198
What about GameMaker games? Is there a maximum value for them, too?

>>174097047
To each their own. Slipstream demo was fun to me. And Paper Mario bug game looks cute, unless its gameplay is complete shit I think it'll be good.

>>174097289
gamemaker game should not be sold for money
enginedev game doubles the monetary worth of video game

Can't decide on a price for your game?
Then simply read the following cheat sheet!

GameMaker: $2.49
Unity 2D: $0.94
Unity 3D: $0.99
UE4: $14.99
Godot: $0
No engine: $29.99

>>174096321
Clarent, Tender Arms, MoGiSho.

Anyone else not really like 2D games?

Roguelikes are cool but that's all I can get into.

>>174097289
Gamemaker games do not have inherent value caps because there is no inherent critical technical flaw with them. However, they get a soft-cap because the amount of things you can do in 2d vs 3d is more limited.

>>174097672
So if I make a pong ripoff without using an engine I can sell it for $29.99?

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Is anyone interested in helping me model a character design I have made?

I've tried doing it myself, but can't figure out blender, and sketchup is just trash.

I'll provide email to anyone interested

>>174097672
Accurate.

>>174097672
How much should my game be worth if I make Unity from scratch, then build it in that?

>>174097442
Played paper bugs in a previous demo day. It's gameplay is literally paper mario with bugs.

>>174097894
That sounds good to me then.

>>174097869
POST IT

>>174097884
No one with the capability to remake Unity from scratch is retarded enough to do it so it's a pointless question.

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>>174097996
[email protected]

>>174096321
(You)r game.

>>174097836
That's not a list of fair prices regardless of game, that's a cheat sheet of prices given the means use to make the game when it's not clear how to price it (read: the game is gr8 m8)

>>174098084
no, post the design... if your scared someone will steal dont flatter yourself

POST IT

>>174097672
What about box2d?

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>>174098214
I S H A N T

better safe than sorry

>>174096154
You forgot the webm section, OP

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repost because i don't know. i made a new stability system and i have to re do a lot of things to accomodate it.

Man, Unity's animation system really is terrible for 2D stuff...

>>174096321
Ctesiphon

>>174099104
this game is going to make you the bigbux. Please remember us poor aggydaggy nodevs when you are rich.

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>>174097770
>the amount of things you can do in 2d vs 3d is more limited.

what did she mean by this

>>174099290
3D platformers can be significantly more complex and elaborate, as well as incorporate gameplay elements from significantly more genres, thus leading to a significantly richer experience, compared to 2D platformers.

>>174099289
He has to actually make it a game first instead of fucking around. And he'll never do that.

>>174099376
what a shit post

>>174096331
Set collision to continuous in the rigidbody

>>174099104
The asset store could use something like this

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>>174099395
Fucking around will eventually lead up to a game as long as he fucks around consistently for a long time.

>>174099376
the
>implication
here seems to be that there is some kind of limit on what can be done with pixels and game design on a screen. this does not seem true at all. just because 3D is harder to make (actually it isn't necessarily, since most people do not make their own 3D engines, so a unity game would be easier than a 2D RTS requiring maths) does not mean that 2D has some hard limit that 3D crosses. come back when you've played Dominions 4.

>>174099659
You couldn't have made a post that demonstrated the extent to which you are ignorant about all things videogames and development alike more. Truly a work of art.

>>174096321
Bokube, for 15 dollars.

>>174099852
Ironically, my post had an argument, yours doesn't. Who is the shitposter now?

I will admit I kinda fucked up that post a little because my main point wasn't supposed to be about the difficulty of making the game (also you probably stupidly assumed that I was implying Dominions is RTS and not grand strategy, but that might just have been confusing writing on my part), but rather how 3D doesn't have more potential just because you added a dimension. 2D and 3D have infinite possibility, just because 3D can contain everything a 2D game can doesn't mean 3D has more of anything.

>>174096507
me neither. There are quite a few I think look cool and will sell well, but there is not a single game that I want to play.

... not even mine

>>174100095
It's because agdg only makes platformers and other pixel bullshit, or shooters/puzzle games in unity. I'll buy an aggydaggy game when it's an actually interesting premise with original art.

That black and white japanese horror cardgame looks kinda neat and original, but it's not really my thing.

>game mechanics

I stared at the whiteboard and got nothing. This shit is like the hardest task in game design. It feels like every mechanic that is fun has been done so many times before. Anything unique doesn't seem fun. It's like I'm trapped in the box of game mechanics that I've seen from other games and anything outside of it is boring.

>>174100085
Your point is that in your opinion, there exists games which could also exist in 3d but are in 2d, therefore there can exist no game in 3d that is more complex than any game in 2d, despite an example having already been given. Also you have addressed no point while digressing, while at the same time asserting that engines magically make 3d games easier to make or that 2d rts are anything but trivial to make. All in all, I must admit that I was wrong: you have successfully managed to make a post that prove your ignorance even better than your previous post. Now on to solving the mystery of how someone as devoid of knowledge as you can physically survive.

>>174100286
Would you play a pixel RPG?

>>174100286
>I'll buy an aggydaggy game when it's an actually interesting premise with original art.
>except for this aggydaggy game I mentioned immediately after
wew

>>174100397
Emergent gameplay > unique mechanics

>>174099114
>Man, Unity really is terrible.

Ftfy

>>174100418
That's nice but where's your RTS faggot? Guess what, I know you don't know shit about game dev because you said this. Later shitposter.

>>174100628
wow nice filename is boku really /ourguy/?

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I'm using RPG Maker to make an RPG.
I want to use pre-rendered 3D maps created with Unity as backgrounds but I don't know how to do it.

Basically I want to create a 3D map in Unity and then export the whole map as an image and use it as background in RPG Maker.

inb4 why don't you take a screenshot

That would only cover one part of the map (pic related). I would need something that makes the camera move around the map taking screenshots and putting them together in a single image. Would that be possible?

I know I'm retarded but this makes sense in my head.

>>174100712
Not if hes gonna charge 15 bucks for that garbage.

>>174100397
I'd second >>174100565 on this one

>>174100397
I know how you feel. Imagine trying to visualize a game as fresh and original as Katamari Damacy or Jet Set Radio were back in the day. I think stuff like that just has to come to you in a daydream.

>>174100418
Where's your game?

>>174100751
He has already started to amass a fanbase of kids so he can probably get away with it. For adults though it looks pretty bargain bin yeah. No offense Boku

>>174100431
yes

>>174100846
I post about my game many time in these threads. Where's your argument?

>>174100751
15 really isn't a bad price. You have to think about future sales. 50% off and it's $7.50. 75% off and it's 5 bucks.

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>>174100829
haha yeah daydreams

>>174101009
>>174100872
no one here in agdg should get paid 15 bucks per copy with the quality of our work.

>>174101009
>25% of $15 is $5
Anon, I...

>>174101009
(You)

>>174101093
This is why I let my computer do all the math

>>174101001
I'm not that, anon. I'm not trying to argue with you. Just wondering where your game is, and it looks like you don't have one.

>>174100739
Why would you do that in Unity?

>I would need something that makes the camera move around the map taking screenshots and putting them together in a single image
Can't you just stitch them together in any image software? Or use one of those photo combining things that people use for panoramic pictures like Image Composite Editor

>>174101221
Get real, no one is going to associate their game with an argument chain. not that anon btw

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50% of the feedback for the game over/ you died text wanted me to go colored text (aka the thread) and the 50% being the discord wanted all of the letters to be red.

It was a tough choice so I went with the threads multicolored feedback.

>>174096321
risk of rain.

>>174101357
This.

>>174100739
It makes sense in your head because it exists and its called a skybox. You need a cubemap

>>174101357
>not that anon btw
Sure you aren't, anon. Sure you aren't.

>>174101463
>mfw I own 7 AGDG games and RoR isn't one of them

>>174101430
You're already ripping off nintendo shit with every single asset, might as well go all out and do so with the text as well. You already did with the text animation anyway.

>>174101503
I'm not either of those anons and I agree with him. I'd never post my game just so the person I'm arguing with can remember our autistic argument every time I post progress. That's how you end up with googems

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>>174101503
It's true, that was literally me and any post after this saying otherwise is lying.

>>174101430
text could be a little more energetic but otherwise good

>>174101607
>I'm not either of those anons
Sure you aren't, anon. Sure you aren't.

>>174101430
they both will look like shit because that's the nature of your shit font with shit simplistic ass outline and on top of it bottom text is horizontally squished for no reason
you constantly rip shit off from nintendo and that's fine but take a deeper look at the embossed ass digits in super mario 3d world or literally any instance of text in these games and notice that they never shit such simple text in your face
your linearly interpolated motion is ass too, all mario games post sunshine provide good examples of animated text in a kids' game

>>174101607
I don't know who is literally who anymore but this post >>174100418 was a retarded straw man of my post >>174100085 and the reason I stopped arguing with that guy is because he outed himself as a know nothing when he said RTS is trivially easy.

>>174101687
What makes you think people wouldn't agree with me anyway? All the people who answer "Where is your game?" with a webm? Haha yeah member all the times that happened?

>>174101571
>mfw I own RoR but I didn't pay for it

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>>174092975
>what i've done today
finally got the hang of godot, fixed slope related bugs (mostly), got walljump and normal jump right
>what i plan for tomorrow
organizing my code so it can handles animation
moving platforms
drawing the character sprite

>>174101227
>Can't you just stitch them together in any image software?
That would be very time consuming and not really perfect, right? It sounds like a very retarded solution.

I just like to do maps in Unity. Blender seems more complicated for that kind of stuff. Do you have any other software suggestion to do this?

>>174101495
I'm not sure if this is what I need/want. Can you explain a little bit how this works? thx

>>174101430
>listening to the thread over the discord.

I hope you get banned from the discord again.

>>174101747
But anon, among the two of you, you're clearly the retarded one.

>>174101785
Where is your game?

>>174101938
Where is your argument?

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>>174101906
why even post if you're not going to actually back up your claims tho

>>174102009
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just wondering if you have a game.

>>174101938
Where is your game?

>>174102094
___________Where is your game?

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>>174102009
it's hanging out with your game in Nowhere Land

>>174102031
Where is your argument?

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>just paid actual money for Photoshop
#realdev

>>174102284
three posts back in the reply chain

>>174102284
But where is your game though?

>>174102081
Where is your game?

>>174102306
Now buy Maya

>>174101880
>tfw no one helps me because they're arguing about retarded shit

wow.

>>174101863
>using the Gbot icon as an asset

Kek. I did that too when prototyping my first project.

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GraphicsGale or Aseprite?

>tfw no one ever wants to collab on a UE4 project :(

I don't know how you guys stand solo devving, it's so much better in a team. I will grant you finding good team members is very difficult.

>>174102335
No argument to be found there, only butthurt. Where is your argument?

>>174102339
Where is your game?

Reminder that /agdg/ is about having autistic spergouts, NOT amateur game development.

>>174102825
What's your primary skillset?

Why don't console games have basic graphics options?

>>174103016
Thanks for contributing to the high quality of the discussion. We hope you will continue posting in Amateur Game Development General.

>>174103164
Because graphics options are purely for supporting slower hardware and nothing else, this is also why audio options shouldn't exist because there's no technical reason to ever disable audio.

>>174103006
I'm deving a game with this guy >>174103016 ask him

>>174103067
Programming (BP). Not a novice though, quite a bit of experience, including with source control and working with C++ programmers to combine our efforts.

I also have enough assets to start whatever genre of game

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>>174102674
THIS IS IMPORTANT

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>>174103319
>Because graphics options are purely for supporting slower hardware
Shouldn't consoles have lots of options then

>>174103421
No because the game is designed for a certain console model which is identical across all copies, meanwhile PCs are highly modular and it's impossible to account for all possible combinations of parts so it's better to just let the player pick the best options for his PC.

>>174103421
No. all models of said console are the same, so there's no need.

>>174103016
Where is your game? The other guy wants to know.

>>174103725
here

http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/

So how has gogem's loli game been received so far?

>>174103639
But if the developer incorrectly assumes 30fps is acceptable, why shouldn't people have the choice to disable graphics to get a better framerate?

>>174103373
>programming
>BP
choose precisely one.

>>174103809
30fps is acceptable, the human eye can't see above that.

>>174103819
more often than not, they're gonna want better graphics.

>>174103850
Well it is, there's literally no debating.

Reminder that BP users are the manlets of programming

>>174102674
>>174103391
I personally prefer Aseprite, but you can try both of them out if you want to.

>>174103938
Half of your statement is correct. The other is "Well it is,".

>>174102674
I use GraphicsGale simply because I can't stand Aseprite's pixelated interface

>>174103809
How do you think?

>>174103912
This. The damage control and backpedaling was so immediate he even started attacking loli rape sim dev possibly the only person who would ever defend gogem and his child harm """"games"""".

>>174068237
>its a jam, nigga and unlike lrsp im not gonna spend all my time on extraneous shit
Environments and gameplay are "extraneous shit" even for jam games apparently

>>174096331
I mean the solution is definitely in your collision code. Try Rubber Duck debugging it

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>>174096154
made a little zone shader for funsies

>>174103809
screens of the game were posted and then deleted because it's literally CP
pretty sure gogem is banned right now

>>174104243
I don't have a rubber duck.

>>174104319
Than explain it to your dick, doesn't really matter

>>174104380
I do have a rubber dick!

>>174102674
I think Aseprite is much more streamlined, and for animating it's legitimately superior to GG

>>174104091
What do you feel it lacks?

>>174103809
nobody even played it. and probably won't.

>>174104290
Pretty neat. How'd you do it?

>>174101430
Multicolored is better to me, but you've gotta fix the motion of the letters. The font could change too

Level is looking really nice though

>>174104578
>Another flop by [YESDEV] that nobody even paid attention to
I don't know why I expected different.

I need a cool alias to blogpost.

>>174104314
toplel

should aim assist be an option on a pc game?

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>>174100739
pls help... :(

>>174104319
Then explain it to your 5 inch anime waifu figure or fullbody dakimakura

>>174104793
If people are likely to play with a controller, yes.

>>174104314
>pretty sure gogem is banned right now
Probably. His feedback to everyone's feedback stopped around when the screenshots of his """""game""""" got deleted.

>>174104793
Fuck no. Your game's monetary value drops down to 0 instantly if you even have that.

>>174096321
Monolith. It deserves it.
Anything that Magician Cat/Tracydev makes.
Bokube, depending on how long it is.

Hi guys I'm back. Love all the salty nodev hate. Mad that I finished my game for the lolijam as usual.

>>174104756
momma's little shitcandy pervert

>>174104314
>>174104892
isn't posting that a permaban? are we finally free?

>>174104990
>Anything that Magician Cat/Tracydev makes.
I don't even care for their games, I just want to see them actually finish something for once.

>>174098365
It's AGDG, anyone who would want to steal it would be too lazy to make jackshit with it.

>>174104290
I'm really curious how you exactly you pulled this off. The idea seems like it has a lot of room for development.

>>174105154
Gogem is a cockroach. So the answer is yes and no.

>>174101863
Nice work, that organization is really good. Stick with that and you'll make steady progress

>>174105075
Nice AI. Always good to get it working before assets go in, nice progress!

>>174097059
tried the demo, it's the binding of isaac reskinned, some bosses and enemies are straight ripoffs, the overall design and mechanics are the same, nice reskin tho

>>174098365
The only case I've seen is from that dickhead, Diestware stealing Momodora.
But Diest hasn't made game in years, anyway.
>>174103809
Nobody played it, Gogem violently reeee'd for attention but nobody cared and he faded back into nothingness again.

Faggot probably got permabanned due to posting literal CP. If so, good.

>>174105506
>>174105667
Kill yourself already. You contribute a net negative to these threads.

redpill me on platformers

>>174106195
oversaturated market because they're easy to make

>>174106195
good genre but bad if you want people to actually buy and play your game

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which one?

>>174106362
Lowest right or Highest Left

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Ladders!!

>>174106549
fast progress!

>>174106362
Bottom left

>>174106362
middle left

>>174106061
Jesus Christ anon, calm the fuck down. Why are you being such a negative nancy.

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>>174104290
>>174104590
>>174105261
improved to work on dynamic characters now :)

>>174105038
hi gogem, how are you

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>>174099104

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I'm seriously considering reworking this in to a city builder when I'm done with this game.

>>174106920
Woah, that's nostalgic. Did you make that model?

>>174106549
Reminds me of Lode Runner.

>>174106362
lowest right

also, the sprite in the upper right hand corner doesn't really read at all, to me. I can't tell what it is, but I assume it's a character sprite.

>>174106549
looks like they work well. Keep up the good work anon

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>>174107052
its not my model
I wish it was
a friend (from agdg) let me use it
her art is lovely <3
https://twitter.com/PolykinDev/status/852866707110731776

>>174107258
>her
this faceapp meme is too good

I'm too dumb to work with code. Art and music must be easier, r-right...?

>>174107006
Do that, the world needs more city builders. which is why I'm working on one too

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>>174107408
fresh is that you? :)

>>174107006
>when people think their idea is brilliant or original as if every idea hasn't been already done, as if ideas aren't worth less than the shit my dog took on my neighbours lawn this morning

gauranteed the idea isn't even about gameplay, it's just something like "a medieval world" or "halo meets borderlands"

>>174107549

Out of the three programming is the easiest to obtain skill in. So you may be fucked unless you're already talented with music/art.

>>174106061
This is why the community has sunken into shit

If no one comments on progress, people stop posting it, and we get garbage shitposters like you who feel right at home

>>174107715
I didn't quote anyone nevermind that unrelated guy but okay

>>174107837
i was very triggered there for a moment!

>>174107549
Programming has a low bar to be useful: if it works it works, no matter how spaghetti. See yanderedev, tobyfox, every shipped game ever. Art and music is harder: there is basically an infinite skill ceiling, and THE PLAYERS CAN TELL when your art is shit. It's harder to know when something is good enough when you're making art.

>>174107801
If you're here to get feel good comments about your nothing-changed tier progress, go back to redd!t or tumblr where you belong. Don't clog these threads with useless forced garbage comments and posts. You are literally everything wrong with 4chan.

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>>174106429
>>174106678
>>174106758
>>174107113
Thank you for the feedback!

>>174107113
It's the player. Hopefully it's easier to read when he's in motion.

>>174108032
just get out already, for fuck's sake

nobody wants you here

>>174108032
This was my first time seeing these games, so there's no way to tell if something is nothing-changed tier

The projects are clearly very early, so I'll comment on what I see. If I saw some shit I didn't like, I would have said something, like I'm doing to (You)

>>174108190
>Hopefully it's easier to read when he's in motion.
Yeah, it's a lot easier. The trail was throwing me off.

>>174108190
While I really like the trail effect and the player animation, something about them together is really putting me off. It seems distracting. Maybe it's because the camera isn't player-centric?

Hi guys.

Will I develop more my game if I hang with you guys?

this is my project: https://d1kts0kw6luun8.cloudfront.net/

I'm doing it with Paper.js and Vue.js because I'm a front-end developer and I'm familiar with javascript. It's going to be like a clicker.

I'm not good with mixing colors.

>>174108402
>Will I develop more my game if I hang with you guys?
Tough to say. This place is full of shitposting and negativity, some people thrive in this kind of environment and others just get discouraged by it.

>>174108348
It's a multiplayer game, so a player-centric camera wouldn't make a lot of sense. It makes it harder to track the player when you're watching a gif, I agree.

From my experience, when you play with friends things start clicking though and you feel like you can predict where players are going to be ahead of time to land shots.

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>>174108536
Oh if it's multiplayer then it makes tons of sense, assuming each player has a different color trail. Nevermind then. This might be a lot to ask for, but maybe consider increasing your run cycle frames?

>>174108651
Sorry, meant to post this gif separately, but I updated this run cycle from a few days ago. Thoughts?

>>174108196
>first time seeing them
>therefore there was no way to tell if it changed
>"NICE PROGRESS"
You are cancer.

Why are people so bad at my game? It's so hard to make an easy game.

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>>174108762
>>174108651
Yep! Different trail color per player. I think that the current run-cycle animation is fine (8 frames). I have a lot of other things that I need to finish before I can go back and polish things lol

(pic related, experimenting with death animations)

>>174108190
i think making the trail shorter vertically would look nicer. but I get a samurai gunn feel from your game

>>174107001
kek'd out loud.

putting it in my edits folder.

>>174109019
As long as it's not Downwell, I'll take it.

>>174108986
Watching it again, I saw way more frames than I did the first time, so I agree it's fine. The zoom of the gif was really throwing me off. What's your game called?

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>>174099395

behind all of these dumb videos i make are systems that i put a lot of work into. i do actually have a game planned. but i need to make the stability systems perfect first.

>>174109140
Showdown. Generic as fuck but I can't think of anything else so I'm rolling with it for now...

>>174109187
Do you care if people just think of your game as a meme game? People might miss the finer details.

>>174109187
Holy shit, this is hilarious

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So I've been working on a little fan game turn based rpg using GameMaker Studio 2. Honestly haven't gotten that far in it due to a myriad of reasons, namely lack of time.
I've been using YouTube videos to help me learn how GM works and in general. Heartbeast is a dude who has a lot of stuff, he's got a Gamemaker course for sale that sounds like it has everything I'm trying to do in my game.
Except that I think his RPG only has 1 character, while I want 4 total, but that wouldn't really be an issue.

But before I do spend money on the course he has I wanted a second opinion. Basically should I do it or should I not? His YouTube stuff has been really helpful for me in general.

>>174107965
I can also tell when the programming is shit.

>>174109364
Sure buddy.

>>174109504
Ever heard of this thing they call performance, for example?

>>174109327
I can't speak to the quality of the course, but if you think his style of teaching is working for you then sure, if it's pretty cheap

You probably could make it through learning by yourself, but he has ideas and good practices that will encourage you to learn and start to form your own systems then it can only be good

>>174109187
cube rape

>>174109710
You are pretty naive about programming.

>>174109710
Are you saying Undertale runs badly? You must have a pretty bad pc.

>>174109748
I'm trying to get it done sooner rather than later. If it was a personal project that'd be one thing, but it's a fan game I wanna share with other people. Some dude's doing sprite art for me. He wants $20 for the course which I feel is pretty reasonable if you ask me. I'm not rich but I spend that much on food if I take someone out to eat.

Just wanted to ask mainly in case anyone had objections with him or what have you. I'm an amateur at this, I don't know what I'm doing or who's a good source of information.

>>174109848
After decades? I don't think so. And programming is an art as well so fuck off with statments like "when it works it works no matter how spaghetti". Nodevs like you should just shut the fuck up and keep doodling sprites or whatever you do.

>>174110048
I started out mainly with Shaun Spalding's free tutorial series, but my game's a platformer not an RPG so I don't know how good he is for that. Sounds like you're into Heartbeast, go for it

>>174107965
Part of the problem with what you're saying is that if your code is clean and well structured it can take you a lot less time to develop your game.
There are levels of bad, though.
Bad design can mean you have to spend lots of time refactoring. Inconsistent design can mean you end up with a larger code base then you'd have if you were more consistent (along with all of the problems that come along with a bloated codebase), or perhaps it can just mean that you won't remember all the quirky parts of your program.
The players will respond much more negatively to bad programming than bad art, because lots of game crashes will absolutely kill any potential fanbase. Your ability to bughunt based on crash reports on other systems will be much different from doing it in your dev environment sometimes.
It does depend on the size of the project, though. You can get away with a lot more on a tiny game. We try to focus on programming more here because generally people want to make code that scales well. Also because it's probably more mentally stimulating to most of the people who come here.

>>174110157
I never said that programming doesn't take skill or that it isn't an art. Spaghetti code has certainly destroyed its share of projects. But with code as opposed to the other two, there is a binary requirement: DOES IT WORK? And that requirement is clearer and easier to reach than making art "good"

>>174110001
>tumblrtale running anything but badly
is this a hot new meme?

>>174107006
What's the gameplay of this?

>>174109308

no i don't care if people think if its a meme game. if they can't understand the potential application of a system like this then they probably aren't my target audience. i'm not trying to spam these videos because they do all tend to look the same, but this is not an easy way of making a character controller, so even major improvements i make seem subtle.

>>174110569
So you're actually so retarded you unironically believe you've done anything new or original so far?

>>174110729
Who cares. He's learning. He's developing. That's the entire point of all of this.

>>174096729
>what is minecraft

please explain

>>174104793
If it's multiplayer and you have to use a controller for some reason, then yes. Otherwise no.

>>174108775
it should be plainly obvious that all progress posts are completely fake

>>174110854
That's not even remotely what he's saying. Stop projecting, nodev.

>>174110892
notch started in agdg threads. He got butthurt that people weren't sucking his cock mindlessly and were instead giving him constructive criticism so he went to reddit instead.

Is Ren'Py still relevant?

>>174111119
Really makes you think

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>>174110729

>unironically believe you've done anything new or original so far

when and where did i say that. i'm using this style of character movement because i have a very specific kind of game feel in mind and no other movement system would suffice. this kind of movement system goes back before jurrasic tresspaser.

you sound kind of flustered to be honest.

>>174111123
If you're making a generic visual novel, sure.

>>174111123
yes, vns aside, you can make any game that is based on menu interactions

>>174111212
This is the most alive-looking webm agdg has ever produced. Congratulations.

>>174108032
Do you do anything here other than go on tirades about the quality of posts? Fuck off with your 4chan secret club bullshit, it's just an imageboard.

>>174103809
I can't play it because
>flash
>windows

Do vertex shaders run for every pixel, like fragment shaders do? If not, how do i get the xyz position of a pixel whilst in the fragment shader? (GLSL)

>>174111268
A primarily menu based game is what I'm going after

>>174111212
>bullying your npcs

Stop.

>>174111212
Very impressive system. What's the actual game gonna be like?

>>174110729
lol, rough day man?

>>174111212
>where
Here:
>no i don't care if people think if its a meme game. if they can't understand the potential application of a system like this then they probably aren't my target audience.

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>>174110527
nigga how the fuck did you get this to run badly

>>174111416
Vertex shaders run for every vertex.
In unity, which is pretty standard the parameters of the pixel is automatically interpolated for you by the shader. I can't remember if the position is automatically passed into the fragment shader, if not then you can add it as a parameter.

>>174111212
That's really impressive. Great work.

>>174111567
Not sure if inbred, paid, tobyfox or lobotomized.
Not sure what the difference is either.

>>174108651
Any thoughts on this animation?

>>174111434
Godot is also good for a menu heavy game. It's GUI system is pretty great.

>>174111567
>half a gig of video memory
nigga i aint fuckin bill gates

>>174111530
what's that got to do with him doing anything new or original? all he's saying is the system of his game has a lot of potential for applications.

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>>174111506

cortex command, madness combat, jedi outcast 2 type thing. probably checkpoint based linear single player levels with a multiplayer component if i can get the physics to work with networking.

>>174111590
so the ratio of vertex program calls to fragment calls isnt 1:1?

>>174111567
>3GB RAM
Why does Undertale need so much RAM?

>>174111796
That would imply that his system is anything new or original, because if not, the potential would have already been exploited.

>>174111839
No.

>>174111530
>if they can't understand the potential application

>of a system like this then they probably aren't my target audience.

>of a system like this

so again, when and where did i say what you are claiming. in fact the way i worded would infer an admission of the opposite.

>>174111839
Google it instead. That retard has no clue what he's saying.

>>174111590
>>174112023
Alright, thanks, i found the variable, its called gl_FragCoord

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>>174110532
atm is a little meme game me and a friend decided to make during easter, as I posted in the last thread it a game where you play as a necromancer in a happy lively medieval town. You gain souls from each npc killed and use those souls to summon the undead to fight for you. once you die you get to respawn and level up (using the souls you collected) increasing your stats. Once you are strong enough you storm the castle and kill the king and win the game.

At what point do Godot's performance issues start to become apparent?

>>174111954
you're looking at it like his game has potential to be the next big thing. it's actually implied that the way his game works has potential to be useful in different applications.

>>174112196
s/you're/he's/

>>174112165
why do you have to die?

>>174112175
When you try to do heavy stuff with GDScript.
Luckily 3.0 will have C#.

>>174112038
So you're saying you're either saying you're trying to ship your system without ever making a game, or that your idea is new and novel which explains why people who don't see the potential in it on account of the fact that this is nothing new and novel yet nothing has ever been able to use this in any useful way are not your audience. Oh wait.

>>174112175
Depends on what you're doing. But it does take a lot to get it to start slowing down, even with GDScript.

As the other anon said, Godot 3 will have C# and C++, so if you need to optimize something with those languages you can do that.

>>174112379
holy fuck dude go do something else

>>174112379
Don't you have a game to be working on? Oh wait.

>>174112379
t. a literal retard

>>174112298
that's how you get to the level up screen and also how all the NPC re-spawn, if not there wouldn't be enough to give you the xp you need to kill the king

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>>174112379

>So you're saying you're either saying you're trying to ship your system without ever making a game

games require mechanics, which typically work best when the character that uses them is consistent in an internally logical way.


>or that your idea is new and novel which explains why people who don't see the potential in it

potential application. application. reading comprehension.

>people who don't see the potential in it are not my target audience

that is correct.

>>174112315
>>174112535
Okay cool, thanks for the info guys!

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>>174112379

>>174112871
Enough of the salt mining already. Why do you keep replying to that idiot?
There's 7 billion+ people in the world and you're wasting your life with one douche who's such a failure they've gota shit on your idea all night long.

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Today I made this thing

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>>174113672
It's shit, but you can make cool maps

>>174113331

no reason to ignore someone just because they pretend not to follow the point. shit posting is more fun when its not obvious though.

>>174113672
>>174113802
That's pretty neato, I like the idea.
I'd play this on my phone while pooping.

>>174112871
>Running kick to the nuts
I'm sold

>>174113802
Make it into a mobile game, add star ratings depending on how few you can get, then have cosmetic things (colors, effects, differnet shapes instead of circles) that cost stars. Then release a free level pack or two and charge for the rest. You can even have themed packs where the best solutions are shapes

>>174113970
Thanks, anon.
Just like make poop.

>>174114175
Wise goyim

Im trying to do masking in OpenGL. Right now, Im trying to take a given pixel on the mesh I want masked and match it up to a pixel on the mask bitmap (which exists in 3D space, i.e. it has its own transform matrix). In order to do this, I get the screen coords of each pixel of the mesh in the fragment shader and multiply them by the inverse matrix of the mask's transform matrix, which should give me the coords of the pixel inside the mask's model space, and since the mask is a square from -1 to +1, I take both the x and y coords, add 1, and then divide by 2, and that should give me the texture coords for the mask. Then I use the texcoords to find the color of the mask at that pixel and use it for masking (something like gl_FragColor = color * maskColor)

In theory, should this work?

>>174114310
>wise goyim
But I'm a member of the tribe my good man

>>174114380
If you are posting here then I think the tribe abandoned you

>>174111883
gms will eat a lot of ram for trivial shit

>>174096321
Project Rocket, although I might regret it later and I'd probably never finish the entire thing
it just feels so right, and the puzzles are usually so bite-sized, that I can't say no to it

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Made some icons for a few seeds/veggies and added an animation for tilling. Also a fence. I made a fence.

>>174114615
Boustrophonedev is a fucking progress machine. His art isn't great but he builds levels around his mechanics constantly, pretty cool

>>174114801
neato, now make a selection box on targeted tile or change cursor because it's tiny asf

If my game is set in a different universe would giving it a clock that's different to our Earth 24 hour one be too weird for players? e.g. giving the planet a 32 hour day night cycle

>>174114801
i haven't been to this general for ages, but didn't this game used to have a frog-person-thing as the MC?

or is this just a very similar looking game?

>>174115175
The one with a frog was a different harvest moon-like being made here.
I believe he has given up on that game though.

>>174115062
How important are clocks and time in your game?

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>>174107001

>>174115062
Unless it really adds something important to the story or the gameplay, better to leave it like Earth time. Suspension of disbelief will take care of things if everything else is enjoyable enough.

>>174115281
Not very, it's just a background thing. I just like adding little details

>>174101430
>letters don't end up lined up
>letters don't bob up and down to compensate for not being lined up
it looks lazy and messy and it riles up my OCD

>>174115013
Plan on adding a larger cursor that has an icon showing your selected item.

>>174115175
Nope, not my game.

>>174115062
I guess go for it unless you're going to be constantly showing them the time (like an on-screen clock UI).

>>174115062
no I don't think it'd be weird. I play a survival game where I change the day length from 32-72 hours and it's easy to adapt to. it's just noticeable that the days and nights are longer than the pre-made setting.

You could have the cycle be 32 hours but have the hour displayed as a % of the day gone. so 9 hours into the day would be (100/32) * 9 = 28%

>>174109187
this isn't your regular companion cube. this is an overly attached girlfriend companion cube

>>174115062
I assume you don't mean realtime, but the time displayed ingame? If it's another universe, first of all you should ask yourself why they should use human/terranean hours at all.

Can you answer why our day has 24 hours to begin with? :^)
If yes, then you have the solution for number of hours on your planet.

haven't been here in years. how is slow's game coming along?

>>174115478
Then the details should make sense. What's the reasoning behind your 32 hours? >>174115870

>>174106061
>>174108032
No, you kill yourself already. You contribute a net negative to these threads.

Piss off and stop being such a negative prick. Nobody cares about your real life issues, stop trying to blow off steam on AGDG devs who are actually actively working on games.

I'll ask the age old question: Where's your game, asshole?

>>174104314
im not.
CP is banned but literally CP is fine.
http://gamejolt.com/games/lolisim/249783
https://mega.nz/#!TRNzWSJQ!Flt1nksZveKIc8QI_mS9UrANiWrhQ63mPoiECzhE8k4

>>174107549
They're hard in their own right. But that's no excuse not to try!
Keep at each of them!

>>174112379
it's not new, it's just uncommon
physicsdev has pointed this out himself

>>174100397
Just copy things from different games. All creators do that, even Disney.

>>174116079
>back to gogem.pro
mental

>>174116079
Gogem how can you aussies get any work done? Australia is so fucked. I mean even the fucking toilets flush backwards. It's sheer madness.

>>174111212
I like how on the third boop and the second to last one the guy sort of shakes like he's trying to stop daydreaming, like it's a "come on get it together" move

>>174113672
that's a hell of a lock screen

>>174116464
> tfw there will never be a new genre of games

>>174115175
>Frog's Life
He'd just put in bosses ;__;

>>174113802
I like it

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PROGRESS: I appear to have fucked some of my math up when trying to make the floor look fancier...

>>174110527
Shit, is your computer a literal IBM toaster?
How the fuck is Undertale running anything but smoothly?>>174110729
Quit being a fucking negative nancy and let people make the games they wanna make, quit being bitter that you never achieved your dream of making a game.

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>>174117401
Wait, nevermind. I haven't fucked up anything
This isn't a gamemaker bug.
It's a FEATURE of how draw_sprite_pos works.

"WARNING: The image above is only for illustrative purposes, and if you use this function on a sprite, you will get different results and may experience texture "shearing" due to the way that a sprite is constructed from a quad of primitives."

WHY.

>>174112165
Wait are you the guy who made exactly what you just described like 2 years ago as a top-down jam game?

>>174118251
The misleading example picture is pretty fucked of them, but the issue isn't exactly perplexing if you understand how sprite rendering works.

>>174117401
>>174118251
I don't know what's possible in gamemaker, but if you want to give a sprite proper perspective you need to use 4 triangles instead of 2.

>>174119553
It's possible. I've used a whooping 18 triangles on a single sprite before.

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I like how it looks in game, I'm moving forward with it

>>174119553
Would you mind explaining the logic behind this? I'm not the dev, but I'm curious. I didn't think projective transformations could be achieved by vertex manipulation alone.