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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

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>News
EU4 Mandate of Heaven is out.

>Random Country Picker
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# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
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>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>174074739
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>174148903
W&B
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Reminder to ignore and report shitposting
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>>174148903
Based

>>174149108
Not based
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>>174148903
White

>>174149108
Not white
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>>174147320
I think I'm gonna try Castile again, but I'm just gonna focus on modernizing my military and conquering muslim nations. Long term goal will be rebuilding the Roman Empire.
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>>174149108
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>Tfw cute character dies
>Reminder that she killed her husband with amazing sex
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>>174149227
Do a different nation you tard, you need a different experience. If you really want something similar, try Portugal or Aragon instead.
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Why is playing a tall Netherlands in EU4 so comfy?
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>>174149840
>tall netherlands
>not tall switzerland
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>>174149749
>Do a different nation
y
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>>174149875
Tall Netherlands is comfy because you can colonially expand and become a huge trade power with trade companies scattered around the globe.
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I was thinking of making a meme nation in Victoria 2.
What about a nice Caribbean Federation?
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>>174149227
I think a good fun game is England. England is a bit harder than Castille but still leaves you lots to do and room for mistakes.

Always surrender Maine.

My goal when I play England is to form GB and to reclaim the land Henry V had underhim in France.

If I'm feeling it, I'll go and try to own all of France.

Dieu et Mon Droit
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>>174149997
Conquer Latin America as Texas.
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>>174149960
autistic management of colonies is not comfy at all
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>After the cute Duchess dies her son and only heir immediately gets syphilis and dies
Well shit, where do I play now?
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>>174149907
You should be trying to learn about the game in your first games, doing the same thing over and over will limit your knowledge and experience. Castile is one of the easiest nations in the game as well, so you're limiting your skill.
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>>174150108

uninstall this mod
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>>174150313
>great strategy
>skill
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>>174150647
What mod?
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>>174150734

meant for him
>>174150287
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what was my fucking problem
did anyone succesfuly take mandate of heaven as japan? I cucked myself with institutions because i didn't realize how they work and wasted a lot of time catching up with tech so i fucked up but it was fun anyway
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What do people mean by tall?
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>>174150826
having small developed country (for example italian countries) is playing tall

blobbing and having huge empire full of shitholes (for example: russia) is playing wide
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>>174150826
It means to expand in height instead of width.
Few provinces with good development.
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>>174148896
IS this anon here yet?
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>>174151130
>>174151147
That's viable? I was always under the impression that outside of dropping some diplo on gold or valuable trade good provinces developing drained too much MP
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>>174149227
Play England
Ally Austria, Castille, Papal States and maybe burgundy
Surrender Maine, but apart from that the game is pretty comfy, just focus on colonising not wars in Europe, but always honour the call to arms
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>>174151301
ayy

Yup, but not for much longer, it's 23:00 at I'm pretty tired.
>>>/his/2670658
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>>174150810
>taking Manchu lands
You need to let Yeren take Manchu lands so they can form Manchu, from there you let them conquer, the other tributaries, from there they should be able to fight ming
Then ally with someone else like Persia or Russia and partition china
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>>174151301
>>174151549
Here's the link to the mod's suggestion page if any anons want to contribute anything:
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/631545981/412448158141568140/
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So, how do I play as Ashikaga? Just force and diploannex everybody as usual? Should I let my daimyos liberty desire rise for easier conquest? I want to have a colonial game going later on.
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>>174150810
Im actually surprised you won against ming. How? I played Japan for two weeks and couldn´t fucking do it
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Do you guys care for achievements?
If yes post your last one you got in a gsg

Pic related

I hate that Paradox is pumping out one DLC after another but i'm happy i dont need every DLC to get the achievements done
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Are there actually people who unironically think that Total War is better than grand strategy?
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>>174151969
>dlc achievements
I care about cheevos but I'm bad at getting them
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>>174151629
i actually never became tributary, i wanted to but ming never trusted me
>>174151963
my start was shaky, managed to unite japan by 1510 and then my strategy was:
>declare war on korea or someone you want to conquer
>wait in your island and destroy chinese armies that will come to you through boats one by one
>wait until you can white peace ming
>proceed to conquer korea when it becomes 1vs1 war
also taking war reparations from ming is pretty huge
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>>174152001
Because they're completely different games. Total War campaign gives context to battles, while battles in Grand Strategy are in context of a political conflict with aims, goals, and strategy.
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>>174151717
>working on the beyond the pale development team
Nice, this is the one mod that really helps EU4 be less shit without requiring an complete overhaul.
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>>174151969
I'm a sucker for achievements. Just really bad at them
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>>174152001
i always became bored of TW games because every single session goes like this
>fight 3-5 first battles manually
>then start to automatically resolve more and more wars until gameplay becomes shit version of paradox game
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>>174151969
I've only played Ironman sparingly for two reasons, one is to see whether I'm actually decent at the game, and two is that it's slow as fuck after 100 years or so.
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>>174152273
This may sound arrogant, but I'm kind of hoping BT becomes more regularly used among /gsg/, like how the most used mods are HPM and HIP.

It would have to compete with MEIOU, but there will always be stragglers who prefer one mod over the other.

Are there any reasons to use "Coptic" over "Miaphysite" in EU4?
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What is latest checksum for Extended timeline?
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do you need to annex entire ming to get mandate of heaven or what
im not a horde btw
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>>174152680
You need at least 1 province in either North China, South China, or Xinan to get the causus belli.
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>>174152680
no
we wuz dragon emperors n shiet
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>>174152680
>>174152740
You only need to be their neighbour.
Also ET fucked up again and Buddhists cant claim mandate there.
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>>174152740
Lies, there must be more to it.
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>>174152567
I can't really think of any in particular unless you want to split up Miaphysite into the specific church for every region like having the Armenia apostic church, Coptic Orthodox Church, and Ethiopian church all be seperate.
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>>174152809
WE WUZ pops in my head when I conquer Morocco or play in Africa and makes me laugh like an idiot at my computer, don't make me associate it with Asia too you mother fucker.
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>>174152857
must be far eastern religion, so catholics and muzzles cant do it
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Is EUIV better than EUIII yet? I'm not hating on the business model, but it's hard to keep up with Paradox games now that they release a new DLC every few weeks. I don't even know what the fuck is going on with CKII, I stopped playing like 20 DLC ago.
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>>174152857
>taking that much Chinese land

You should have just taken treaty ports anon
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>>174152857
Oh yeah, you need to be in the Eastern religious group (Buddhist, Confucian, Shinto).

>>174152889
So Paradox was just being stupid with that decision?
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>>174153054
Too many DLCs for me to keep up with
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>>174152980
Why must ERE always be cucked out of something?

>>174153062
>Empire without borders
>having borders
wew
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>>174153113
I don't know anon, I am not an expert on the religious structure of those faiths.
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>>174153054
>>174153125
The answer is yes
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>>174153169
At least set up a cucked vassal state while keeping the ports under your control then.
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>>174153169
>Why must ERE always be cucked out of something?
Because you're christcuck.
If you had reformed Rome as proper polytheist you would be able to claim mandate, for some reason.
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How to raise militancy?
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>>174153389
You don't want to.
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Does gsg ever play EU4 together?

Or Vicky II?
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>>174153620
I do though
I want 4 militancy to form the empire
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>>174153054
Shitposting answer: no it's shit eu4 fags btfo

Real answer: Yes, but temper your expectations. It's a map painting simulator and the entire game is about spreading your color
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>>174153751
Seconded

Moar info needed on how to form Mexican Empire
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Im playing as byzantine and my rebels have risen in genoa. They took the one island province they have and now nothing is happening. What will happen now? What can I do? Will genoa come under my control if they win somehow? How long will it take?
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>>174152567
Big differences, but researching now for you kind anon so this nation can be made soon.
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Drunk Russian no match for might Nihon steel
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To the anon from the last thread that was having problems with After the end; It seems the github version is broken. The one on the forums works.
I hope you have a legit CK2 base version because I am not uploading it.
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>>174154054
If they enforce demands yes, but more likely than not they will be defeated and Genoa will keep on blobbing. How did Genoa even get Byzantine land anyway.
But if you funded them then you should have the 'support rebels' cases beli
>>174154280
reminds me of my kiwi penal who got alcohol poisoning last night as he was all alone
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>>174154054
Ahaha holy shit, they defected to me and the 8000 rebels are now also under my control. I have 20k army, how insane would it be to declare war on Roaches?
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>>174153054
Haven't played eu3 so don't know, but a lot easier to RP now, not least because of more events and decisions for nations, also more unique national ideas, however Japan still has no missions most of the time.
>>174153169
>Why is the empire who's emperors were actually cuckolded multiple times getting cucked
I don't know anon?
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>>174154338
There are small islands that they control since start of 1444. They weren´t funded by me they simply appeared
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>>174153389
Change parties if you can, if not then just spam elections and take whatever gives the most militancy
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>>174152680
Getting the mandate is easy, just be eastern and border china. But, unless you have two accepted chinese cultures, you'll get a disaster
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Someone help me understand pressing claims
So I invite a guy to my court with claims to a Welsh Petty Kingdom. I'll give him some land that I acquired in Wales, so he's my subject. I'll then press him claims for his petty kingdom and win it, but, then he's suddenly independent. Is this because I'm also just the Petty Kingdom of Northumbria? Is it because I'm gavelkind/earler imperial succession?
How do I manage to expand as a Christian agaisnt other Christians without just faking claims all the time?
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>>174150810
>>174150810
start as shimazu and keep their traditions, get combat modifiers and have a golden age and you'll shit all over them. You'll nearly go broke buying mercenaries, but you'll win.
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Fuck me I'm retarded.
Does this mean I need to decentralize a level or centralize a level?
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>>174154723
What small islands, Crimea? I thought those weren't byzantine cores anymore. Shame Ottomemes core removal did fuck all.
>>174154571
What alliances do you have and will they join wars, also post map
>>174150810
You know with Institutions you just invest monarch points, also just don't get the new techs and keep on investing MP until it's like 100 to embrace, as if you embrace straight away your asian neighbours will get it super easy and then it'll be hard for the Westerners to help you take down china
>>174151969
Last one was uniting Japan, now I just need an event and then I can go Krystian
>>174155125
Yeah he needs to be a lower rank than you and be your vassal
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pay up yellow boi
>dat power projection
also say something nice about this ugly europe (although i appreciate how they kicked ottos who were deep into vienna 200 years ago)
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k lads
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>>174155463
>needs to be a lower rank
Well, I guess I'll have to conquer Mercia, but I have a non-agression pact with the Picts who took it over
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>>174155463
Nope genoa has islands in greece. Anyway I tried my luck to blitz cap while ottos were at war and aragon came to fuck me up. I was allied with walachia and hungary but they wouldn´t come because right after I allied them they got three wars and got raped three times in a row
Gotta have to start anew, that one was doomed since hungary looked like it was ready to fall apart with approximetely 30k rebels everywhere
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>>174155561
I like how Italy turned out
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>>174155229
>he fell for the Mandate meme
>he blobbed all over Asia
m8 just ally with the Manchu's then make them a vassal once they take beijing
>>174155561
>Castille partitioned like Poland
>Poland but no CW\
>Goth achievement
>china beat russia
Shamefur dispray
>>174155796
Always help your allies with Rebels, yeah Aragon is an ass, did you ally Austria? Just let Wallachia die
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>>174155561
i like how france doesn't own the english midlands and cornwall like they usually do
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>>174155757
based
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>>174155796
If you have a NAP with them they'll probably ignore it, you allying with Francia at all, I'd recommend it
>1741557796
Yeah only war Ottomans when they're fighting the Mamluks or when you assembled the holy league
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>>174155954
>Help with rebels
Can´t pass roach land. I was allied with hungary as I said. For some reason polland and austria never want to ally with me. I have fresh run and allied serbia, now Im trying to get either poland or austria
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it begins
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>>174156529
Check the exact reasons why and make sure they haven't rivalled each other
>>174156639
Why do you keep the high liberty desire
Also who is england allied to
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>>174155561

>Sweden
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wait so reformed inti can't increase autonomy? that's really annoying

>>174156895

i converted Xiu. they'll calm down well before i'm ready to annex them and it's not like i need their tech 9 troops.

>England
>Allies
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What´s the best colonial policy? I´m inclined to go with the first one.
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>>174157464
the one that gives you the most population increase
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>>174157

kill all natives if you have the money to keep army maintenance up
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>>174157330
Did he win his vote?
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>>174157464

situational.

coexistence is good when you really don't want to keep garrisons either because you're in some significant war, or to cut down on micro later-game

repression is best early-game since it basically doubles your growth rate then

trading gives a noticeable increase in goods if your colonizing africa or indonesia since native pops are huge there
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>>174157651
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>tfw 3000 in debt
>tfw need 1000 to get printing press and global trade has already appeared
>tfw ottomans are 15/16/16 and I am 11/8/13
>tfw ideally situated to conquer india, russia, and east africa right now but I want to get my debt and technology under control
>tfw poor planning
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>Oh yeah finally my ally didn´t get raped literally day after allying them, now it´s time to kill these roa-
Someone please tell me how to play byzantium already
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>>174157806
>all the shitholes voting yes
As excepted, same with Trump being elected
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>>174157806
What does this mean?
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>>174157806
>They went yes
Excellent, now we can finally gas them to ((protect democracy)).
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>>174157978
>>174157972
>>174157924
Erdogan will become sultan of the Ottoman Empire
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>>174157924
Still haven't gotten over it?
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I want to play a game of EU4. I have neveer playeda Horde and would like to play one, which one would you suggest with the new DLC.

I'd like one with a clear goal in mind and isn't too hard.
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>>174158058
>There will be a crusade to destroy the Ottoman Empire in your lifetime
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>>174158058
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>>174157915
>actually being bad at Byzantium
Tell me what your first moves are.
As in, before you unpause.
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>attack shogun to take Kyoto
>ally fucking bolts to Kyoto and occupies it
>have to settle for gold and wait 5 more years
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>>174157241
Why does England always fail, I thought the AI could never do proper naval landings, or is it because it's AI vs AI
>>174157464
Native coexistence, or whatever gives +50% integration chance and -50% uprising chance, combine it with New World missions and you colonise super fast if events fire
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>>174157157
Suleiman did nothing wrong.
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>>174158656
kys t*rk
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>>174158731
Turks are the legitimate successors to Rome.
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>>174158406
Well, first thing I do is starting improving relations with austria,hungary,poland. Austria and poland never want to ally with me so I end up with hungary. Of course when that happens and hungary is stable roaches will NEVER declare war on me, so I have to do it and call hungary. Hungary being retarded mongol descendants wait until roaches merge all their armies together and then rape us both
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>>174158759
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>>174158785
Have you tried not declaring war on the roaches?
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>>174158759
>>174158810
No, that's Finland.

>>174158785
>relying on powers larger than you
That's your first mistake.
You literally only need Albania to win.
If you need more specific help than that, then you haven't learned the mechanics and how the AI behaves well enough to do it.
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>>174158852
>Just sit around doing nothing for 400 years until someone decides to crusade against roaches
Thanks for the tip
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>>174159003
>No, that's Finland.
You've got it backwards I think m8, Rome is the successor to the Old Finnish empire.
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>>174158634

i've seen some decent landings. this game i had france drop their entire army in mexico, which was entirely the right thing to do.

shame for them i had tech parity 10k more troops than they did
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Hey /gsg/, I'm new to these games. I was gifted the paradox interactive pack on Christmas and these games seemed pretty fun so I got the dlc for victoria 2. anyways, when i was commanding some troops i noticed i could "click" on a battle and it showed what was going on in there and I started to wonder, are there any GOOD battle-type games with a roman/early medieval theme?
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>>174157806
>still using commas for percentages
Just another reason why the Ottoman Empire became so ill
>>174157852
>using meme mod
Try and form an allaince with Poland to partition them, also surely you're the same cult so attacking will lower piety
>>17415871
Hello newfag
>>174159018
You know you're supposed to annex athens right?
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>>174159520
>good
no
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>>174160235
Yes and then what? How does that help anything. You annex them, gain three regiments (which you will have to disband unless you want to go bankrupt). Let me rephrase
>Annex athens and do nothing for 400 years
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>>174153620
Ramping up your militancy all the time when you're westernized is literally how you play victoria 2 in order to pass reforms
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>>174160373
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Byzantium#Strategy
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what's the best mod for eu4
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>tfw all my Hudsonian crypto-Hollander vassals are revolting against me
>revoking their titles one by one

soon the old nobility in Hudsonia will be gone, and a new, young Deitsch guard will rule over these lands
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>>174160931
MAYO and TALEX or
Beyond the Pale
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>all the games in the links require you to register to a shady ruskie website.

any other links?
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>>174161343

lmddgtfy net
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Discord Link please
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>popery

>>174161343
the site isn't shady desu

i use it all the time
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>>174161526

t. severely owned man
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>>174161343
It's literally the only safe place to get them from. Stop being a pussy and appreciate their service, that shit's not easy.
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>Carter dynasty successfully bleached themselves into near-German genetics

still muddied, but they look alright now. even have red hair
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Just realised something
One thing Mandate of Heaven added was that the Shogun could take development from his Daiymos
But this was already in MEIOU + Taxes, as proved by anon's babylon run, between normal governments and vassals
So yeah just another reason to not buy DLC
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>>174162525
Modders are honestly just pirates and hacker at this point. If you want to support that kind of bullshit then feel free to, but I certainty won't
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>>174162271
WE WUZ WURTEMBURG N SHIET
>>174162525
Also all shogun vassals count as daiymos for liberty desire
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>serious discussion
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>>174162461
>146 posts in
not based
not white
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>>174162695
t.cykaman
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>>174162689
What portrait is that?
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>>174161343
>posting in a shady nip website
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>>174162695
>posting when I get home from my job at McDonald's
>this makes me not white
Bet you're an African-American as well. I'm all American before you ask.
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>>174161343
>posting in a website which you can still get child porn in via various boards
>not shady
Even the blue boards get smut, like here with the girl using a shit banana as a dildo
Also the Japanese government has access to all data posted here
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La Plata is not based.
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>>174162868
>I'm all american
So only 40% white.
Got it.
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>>174163018
You take that back.
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Can the orthodox church declare a crusade in ck2? I'm going for Christendom passthrough and I think Abassad duke with a secret religion would be a good start
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who is the most redpilled EU4 let's player on youtube?
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>>174164354
no
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>>174149593

What mods besides after the end?
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>>174164540
Florryworry
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>>174164540
>le red pill
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>>174153054

It removed some features, but added a lot others, the development is one of the best features.
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>>174163920
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>>174163018
HERESY
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>>174164625
Fug, do you think it's better to just go Catholic Charlemagne then? I'll Deus Vult pagans then move to Hispania
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door hinge you idiot

>>174162774
Anglo portraits

>>174164821
Cartographic Map Remix

https://mega.nz/#!nwo3BSgA!hHiqOw3NVtkuIfA2AgWYNRpSD5fneklXxpuavxQS_W8

delete the font folder in After the End, or all the on-map text will be garbled
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How the fuck do these east africans have the same mil tech level as western europe???
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>>174165412
BASED ERDOGAN

BASED ERDOGAN

BASED ERDOGAN

BASED ERDOGAN
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can I get a link to the liquord
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>>174165412
what were the results of the thing? does he have less limitation now?
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Where were you when you heard the last vestiges of the Ming empire had been crushed?

>>174166842
Yeah, he can basically appoint whoever he likes in the government now, the prime minister is gone, it's like an American president only without the power to veto executive orders.
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There is literally NOTHING wrong with this Europe.
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ah yes

>tfw no accepted pops to employ in my industry
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>>174167064
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>>174167064
>austria-hungary
>serbia alive
fuck off you memeloving fuck
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behold! the empire of the Nicv
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one of the Ursuline crypto-papists are trying to take the Hudsonian crown

fuck off
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>>174167286
What the fuck is with these colors. Knock this off.
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>>174167608

forgot mah pic
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Lebanon Brethren coming to help

nice
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>>174165412
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>>174166361
Play Vic 2 instead
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>>174148896
>>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
Still keeping mememods in the OP I see.
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>>174168020

>out of coal simulator

Nope.
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>>174168295
fuck off, Rob
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>character dies a month after his heir turns 16

rate new king
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>>174168295
trob
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It only took twenty resets but finally Im doing well in my byzantium run. What should I do now?
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>>174168434
>stealing the identity of the dead
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>>174168506
Can I unironically play as the CIA in this mod?
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>>174168506

>16
>that beard

I had neckbeard when I was 14, but is because I'm a fucking hairy monkey.
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>>174167286
Aw fuck you.

>>174167326
That land belongs to the Serbians.
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>>174168601
open the gates for turks and play superior anatolian nation instead
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>>174168837
German Ubermensch Genes and Testosterone
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Wew
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>>174167043
Tributaries finally sorted, will need to make Yarkand bend the knee one day, but for now I fenced them off with Delhi and Oirat.
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>>174168795
talex
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>>174168954
>Carlist Spain
>Silesia
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>>174168954
lol hpm is fucking shit
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>>174168771
im unsure if you can play monastic orders, but the Men in Black are in the mod
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>>174167064
>austria-hungary going past the carpathians
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>>174169217
Check what his items are
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>>174169217
What are some of the US remnants you can play in that mod? Wiki says there are some, but which ones seem to claim they are literally the old USA?
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>monks & mystics
>The Reaper's Due
>Conclave
>Horse Lords
>Way of Life
>Charlemagne

Any of these worth it? Besides everyone saying Conclave is shit all the others seem mixed.
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>>174169460
remnants of the old US government are non-existant, though there are swaths of land at the start of the campaign that are 'Americanist', a cult that worships the great American figures pre-calamity

>>174169301
dude has the Declaration of Independence lol
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>>174168601
The Byzantium opener is to ally Albania and get called into their defensive war alongside Hungary, and win. If it works you should have all your cores from Turkey back by 1450.
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>>174169652
BASED

Find out if he can be played as
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>>174169475
monks & mystics is good if you want a laugh but not if you want a challenging game
repear's due is just generally good
conclave is a nice addition i guess
horse lords is fucking awesome, do it
way of life is good
charlemagne is pretty much mandatory
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>>174169475
Way of Life and Charlemagne are somewhat mandatory (Charlemagne .

The Reaper's Due is very helpful if you want to better experience the Black Death.

Not sure about Horse Lords, Conclave, and M&Ms because I don't have them.
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Japan is a monster
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>>174166361
Because white people sold them weapons, if you count slavs as white
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>>174168965
>axis of evil declares war on my tributary, dai vet
boi you boutta learn today
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>>174169835
Yeah Conclave seemed like a cool Idea but I've seen things where the child-raising mechanic gets rid of born traits like genius/attractive. Which would piss me off.

People were also complaining that it puts your realm into perpetual civil war but they might have just been shitters.

>>174170242
>
>
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>>174170131
>not being a GP
>not playing as Partido Socialista
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How much of an improvement is EU4 over 3? I thought EU3 was p boring compared to vicky hoi3 & ck2. Is 4 more of the same?
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Unrestricted idea groups don't break ironman cheevos and therefore doesn't considered as "cheating".
What is your excuse for not running innovative->administrative->religious every game?
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>>174167043
>colonising Taiwan
DISHONOURED
>>174167064
>Istanbul not tsargrad
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>>174170336
i've noticed that ai underestimates player all the time
i had some shithole declare war on my tributary while all they could muster was like 20k troops
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>>174170508
It's really shit
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>>174170526
my last japan game ended with like 6 military idea groups and 2 diplomatic
and i still was lacking paper mana all the time
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>>174170580
pretty sure the AI doesn't take into account the tributary's overlord. I'd guess the reason why is because they couldn't figure out how to get tributaries to declare war on each other if they did take it into account.
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considering i had nothing to do it, that's a big pope
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lol this dude looks straight out of the Planet of the Apes
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>>174170508
>Is 4 more of the same?
yes
different mechanics, but the same feel
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>>174170710
You realise that every idea will give you 2% tech discount for their respective groups?
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>>174170339
once you revoke council war authority, you will be dealing with a revolt for increased council power every year since almost every vassal that doesn't have like at least 60 relations will join the faction. Favors are dumb as there's no depth or detail to it, you just pay money for a favor and then force them to vote with you to revoke council authority. Conclave doesn't make playing as on the council or dealing with vassals more fun or engaging, just more tedious.
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>>174170978
ain't nobody got paper mana for dat
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Wew, I zoomed in and found this massive flag on a mountain.
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>>174171281
>ain't nobody got paper mana for dat
>as japan
You w0t m8?
Can't you just sit on your ass for few decades and diplovassalize and then pay 342 papaer mana for tech instead of 600? And 25% lower core creation and tons of mana events from innovative?
>6 mil idea for japan
You're failure.
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frogs please leave
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KICK OUT TALEX
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>>174171719
>EU4 pleb trying to call anyone a failure

lmao
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>>174171863
>licky baby
>pleb
>lmao
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>>174168954
What order did you conquer shit in?
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Happy Easter, /gsg/! Does anyone have a link to the DLC for Hearts of Iron 4? Can I just pirate the dlc like with previous Paradox games?
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>>174148903

I genuinely can't stand shit posting. I really can't. It's the most autistic, pointless thing a person could actually find "entertaining". The idea that you think it's hilarious wasting hours of your "life" trying to bait people into replying to your shitty half arsed posts speak numbers about how lonely and pathetic you must be to get entertained doing this

It probably seems counter productive for me to write this, because shit posting genuinely makes me angry. It seems like it's near impossible to have a genuine discussion on this board without some fuckwit chiming in to say something stupid like "freshcunt" or "newcunt fresh off the boat from facebook or reddit detected".

I know that this will probably get a bunch of you stupid cunts replying to me calling me the "autistic" one for actually speaking up, because I genuinely want to have a discussion about something instead of being barraged with retarded responses that will no doubt have me reply to you about your stupid pointless comments.

Moderation is largely pointless because you all seem to use dynamic ips anyway so no matter what you'll continue your shit posting like it's some normal part of your everyday life.

The fact that anyone ever calls you out on your bullshit and you try and defend it, or continue replying in a shit posting fashion is childish as fuck considering most of you on here are at least 18-30 years old.

Fuck all your shit posting antics. Kill yourselves. You're not funny, or witty, or original, or entertaining. You're literally all rehashes of one another trying to be unique and funny, when you're all doing the same thing. Your pathetic "lives" while you sit here day in and day out shit posting are being wasted away because you find it hilarious to get people worked up 24/7. It's like you cunts are addicted to shit posting. Like you get a dopamine response from it or something.

Rant over cunts. Fuck off.
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>>174171719
>6 mil idea for japan
>You're failure.
that didn't stop me from conquering and landlocking chinks and coring their land is damn expensive
and i didn't start as shogun
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>>174172132
This
And there's only one way to get the shitposters out of /gsg/, that is, banning vicky and making a /v2g/ as a containment general for them.
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>>174172132
Brown and not based
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>>174172329
t. manapro
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>>174171521
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>>174172601
t. liqqybabby
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>>174172132
did you not learn anything

simply ignore what you dont like, this is common practice
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FUCK
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>>174172105

>first rheinland, since bigges territory i could take with minimal infamy, also free westfalen

>after austro-prussian war of honor pic related happens, so next was palatinate, it was no longer divided between 3 countries.

>next i blobbed into belgium, meanwhile i sphere all the remaining german states.

>now a grotesque germany has formed and has eaten luxemburg, wants to make germaniums groß, so i defend and take luxemburg

>Finally grab zeeland from netherlands.
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should i start settling Vikings in provinces with undesirable cultures? I dont want any Anglos in my realm
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>>174173061
>forming Qing
>Making the same fucking mistake every nomad did after taking chink clay.
>forsaking ability to restore roman empire.
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>>174173061
I laughed
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I genuinely can't stand HPM. I really can't. It's the most autistic, pointless mod a person could actually find "entertaining". The idea that you think it's hilarious wasting hours of your "life" trying to integrate Wallonia into France and failing speak numbers about how lonely and pathetic you must be to get entertained doing this

It probably seems counter productive for me to write this, because HPM genuinely makes me angry. It seems like it's near impossible to have a genuine discussion about it on this board without some fuckwit chiming in to say something stupid like "trob" or "treed" or "b-but there are no better mods".

I know that this will probably get a bunch of you stupid cunts replying to me calling me the "autistic" one for actually speaking up, because I genuinely want to have a discussion about something instead of being barraged with retarded responses that will no doubt have me reply to you about your stupid pointless comments.

This thread is largely pointless because you all seem to shill for free so no matter what you'll continue your shit posting like it's some normal part of your everyday life.

The fact that anyone ever calls you out on your bullshit and you try and defend it, or continue replying in a shit posting fashion is childish as fuck considering most of you on here are at least 18-30 years old.

Fuck all your HPM shilling antics. Kill yourselves. You're not funny, or witty, or original, or entertaining or even informative. You're literally all pathetic beings who don't even get a paycheck for it. Your pathetic "lives" while you sit here day in and day out shilling for a brazilian are being wasted away because you find it hilarious to get people to play a shitty mod. It's like you cunts are addicted to HPM. Like you get a dopamine response from it or something.

Rant over cunts. Fuck off.
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Don't quite like this gimmick
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>>174173390
>the Huns were the true Roman Empire
Really make you think
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>>174173889
>Fucking up roman corrupt christianized senators and wage war to rescue his roman wife from old bald fatmen.
Attila was true roman on par with Caesar.
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>>174153753
>It's a map painting simulator and the entire game is about spreading your color
thats every paardox game
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>>174173061
Okay, the imperial frontiers are almost completely restored now.

I'm still pissed off about Yarkand, warred them for tributary, got a 20 year truce and then they immediately declared they were no longer a tributary, and I can't war them to say "oh yes you are" because I have a 20 year truce.

This is what you get for playing straight after the expansion comes out.
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So I'm trying to siege Corfu as Byzantium but it's not sieging. What do?
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>>174173196
feelsbadman

my france has a big ugly luxembourg shaped hole in the middle, and I'm near the infamy limit

need to fix the bordergore but don't want to get DoW'd by the world

console commands?
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>>174174471
literally why, its a reddit mod by now
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>>174174663

declare war
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>>174174781
fucking THIS, we should kick HPM out of the OP.
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>>174174867
>>174174663
nvm I figured it out. Needed more soldiers.
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>>174174665
I got pretty lucky with my my statesman bonuses, got 3 times great statesman, so i got borders nice and clean in the 90's

changeowner FRA 397
i've also added integration modifiers for the non-core territories.


>pops
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>>174174781
>by now
It has always been
In fact the whole game is reddit, only based and redpilled NWO is decent
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>>174169715
Doesn´t work anymore honey. Anyway they declared war on me and after 20 years of guerilla war capturing provinces without fortresses while austria was capping cities we won
>Austria sents rented hungarians to recap constantinopole
>Literally days before we get it back they cancel the rent
>MFW
war could have ended so much sooner
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>>174175427
>redpilled
>>>/pol/
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>>174175742
>>>/qa/
>>>/soc/
>>>/lgbt/
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>>174173795
I agree, and I need to ask. Which mod has the 1861 start? I'm bored of the constant 1836 stale run because talex is too autistic about some German pops in Tibet.
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>>174175845
>>>/r/the_donald
>>>/mlp/
>>>/mlpol/
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>>174175427
>NWO

PDM mods are the redditest of them all
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>>174174628
>our soldiers have a belt of grenades/artillery rounds
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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if hpm is bad which mod should i use for vicky 2
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>>174175937
I could make one, but why bother to make mods when the r&i just censors anything that wasn't made by talex.
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>>174176010
Use your ships to destroy their convoys, they'll run out of supplies eventually
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>>174175978
NWO and CWE are based on HPM with a mix of Vickymod.
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>>174175978
talex
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>>174176147
Does it exist in unHPM, is there any way to get it enabled in Grandimod by removing a # somewhere? I really want to play as the Confederacy.
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>>174176179
>nationalism is the same as authoriarianism
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>>174176430
They don't think that, they're just so retarded they think Nationalism is the worst thing in the world, worst than Islamic extremism. To them, Trump's America is worse than ISIS.
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>>174176012
You should stop playing reddit games entirely
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>>174176597
t. manapro
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>>174176405
The last unHPM was made for an outdated version of HPM back in September.

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

That was just before he got run off by pro-HPM shitposters who for some reason had to kick him and many others out
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>>174176228
k
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>>174176662
Does it include 1861 start?
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>>174176004
>0 Meritocracy
>29 mandate
oh shit nigger what are you doing
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Just started a nice Holland game, going for my inderpendence. Austria dies straight away, Bohemia elected. Like 3 days max. Bohemia dies and Austria is elected again.

Looks like the HRE is cursed with the Von Habsburg
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man this event made me sad

im going to hang out with Paul and find him a nice wife to have children with
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So I'm playing a game right now and Brazil has managed to become a GP in 1846
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>>174171832
>>174177515

Bobling other SA cunts?
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>>174177023
I tributed Yarkand and they immediately cancelled it, whilst I still had a 20 year truce, so I couldn't go beat them up.
>>174087082
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So it's early game in Vicky, and I'm drowning in money. What do?

I'm building factories literally faster than craftsmen can man them, and have all my soldier pops in the army. Max spending in all areas
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>>174178069
Nevermind I build a couple of basic border forts and now I'm bankrupt
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>>174177794

>canceling being a vassal

Rofl what, at least there should be a event giving options for a war or for letting them go.
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>colonize Trinidad as Dutch
>it becomes Neu-Kurland instead of Nieuw-Walcheren
delet
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what mod is this? a link would be great
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Smuggle your willy, lads.
>>174178246
I wouldn't mind if it broke the truce and I could just declare war on them again but it literally left me losing .30 mandate a month for 20 years because he was a big guy.
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Hey lads, where can I download the heirs to Aquitania if I priated Vicky 2
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>>174178857
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7di22jpc5bj7r13/HtAv035.rar?dl=0
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>>174178793
is the simple solution to just make him lose their border with you?
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>>174178570
That looks cancerous
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>>174176579
ISIS probably has less negros tbqhwy
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The Sino-Indian war is over, the frontier has been well and truly pushed back, China is almost completely surrounded by tributaries, apart from the minor territory of Lan Xang in Vietnam.
>>174179391
Aye, there is no border, it just looks like there is because of the coloured wasteland.
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>>174179714
im a degenerate, i just want to know what it is.
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>Vikings in James Bay

beware, Inuits
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>>174178857
>>174179278
Redpill me on this mod. Whats it all about?
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Are there any interesting overhaul mods for victoria 2 besides HPM and Napoleon's legacy?
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>>174180957
CWE
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theocracies seem to be doing pretty well

mega-verden is especially curious
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>>174179278
Thanks, ur the best
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>>174181292
dont compare shitty theocracies to crusader states and papacy
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>>174181074
CWE stresses your computer when compared with NWO, though it feels more complete with flavour and decisions
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Autism time:

every time i play CK2 as a british noble house, i always make sure to de jure drift the kingdoms of scotland, wales and ireland into the kingdom of england, purely because i hate their bullshit different legal jurisdictions and think they should be subject to the same legal code as england and wales.

i like to dream that the county court system extends north and west and i can go into the county court in tipperary or arbroath and quote the CPR at the district just sat there.

>tfw you cannot take momentous decisions about the nature of the legal, civil and constitutional institutions you put in place in your sprawling empire or minor realm

>tfw you cannot appoint learned courtiers to be judges or, based on a setting, call a parliament where all the nobles are split into the lords (temporal or spriritual) and commons (mayors and patricians) and pass laws or raise taxes for a war or crusade
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>>174176662
The fucking latest version link is dead

What the fuck redditors post a link
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i don't suppose trust resets if i force-vassalize them?
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forgive if this is dum question but will the vicky 2 africa mod in the op work with hpm?
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>>174181634
>CWE stresses your computer

If you're running a toaster, sure.
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>>174181917
I couldn't get the mod to work with HPM neither

>>174181074
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Should I play buy HOI3 or HOi4? Which one is better? Also what does Flavormod for HOI3 do?
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BigBenis finally got famous and loved!

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/65qna7/guess_atat%C3%BCrks_dream_is_dead_now/
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>>174182305
hoi 4 and buy every dlc to support based paradox /ourguys/ praise kek!
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>>174182305
I played hoi3 long ago and compared to hoi4 it's much more complex. Hoi4 seems more polished, but still lacks many features like the several distinctions in commanders' ranks that was replaced by only two ranks and thus only two types of groups of units in hoi4
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>>174182305
Just about everyone here agrees that HoI4 is a buggy, unfinished mess with abhorrent AI.

Flavormod adds a bunch of events and decisions that make WW2 more historical and less railroaded.
t. flavormodanon
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I need my MEIOU fix now.
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>>174181917
>>174182280
It is made for HPM
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Are armies of 6 inf 2 art 2 cav good early game?

And should I swap any out for engineers?
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It it worth it trying eu3 if one has played eu4 and found it to be extremely simple as a game after playing victoria 2 after? And how is eu2? What are the recommended mods for the older eus?
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>>174182750
IT was fun but after helping a new anon code Copts I really want to try beyond the pale
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>>174182907
Thats shit, you should alwyas try to do 4 inf/ 4art/ 1 hussar/ 1 enginner, if you're not going to siege anu forts you can swap the eng for an inf
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>>174182936
Forgot to ask about EU: Rome
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>>174182907
6/6/2/2
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i took london.

now i have no fucking idea what to do with it. core it and give it to my vassal Iceland?

ideally i'd set up a client state but that's still a good while away
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Isolationism or Open as Japan in EU4?
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Is craven genetic or something? Everyone in my dynasty is such a little bitch.
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why do they do this?
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how the fuck do I solve this? I need the two holy sites in scandinavia to reform norse faith, and I need moral authority at 50. Then I need to adopt feudalism.

Anyone got any tips...?
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>>174184830

git gud
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>>174184129
It's giving traits based on the player
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>>174184129

cowards raise cravens. give 'em a brave tutor and a martial education

>>174184968

he said craven, not imbecile
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japan is the new gross germaniums
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Has anyone here every made an interesting fictional yet historically plausible nation with the nation editor in EU4?

Something more interesting than ''muh generic pirate nation'' bullshit?
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>a Germanified Hudsonian went on an adventure and became the King of Virginia

now there are two Deitsch kingdoms and zero Americanist realms left
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>>174181860
>Grand Republic
>uses monarchy flag
woah.. so this is the power of EUIV
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/gsg/ what's a good name for a Rhineland blob? I want to spend to early game as a rpublic but I don't want to include republic in the name as I want to leave the option of changing governent later on open.
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>>174185321
Großes Rheinland
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>>174185192
Helping an anon with Coptic Egypt
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>>174185135
No, that's Castille in eu4
>>174185321
You know it was only the Byzantine rump state that was called an empire right?
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>out of five last monarchs in eu4 not a single one of them had at least one stat above 4
monarchy, not even once
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>>174185321
why custom nation
just play swiss you cuck
>>174185224
but its a thing even in modern europe you retard
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>>174186367
Fuck off, EU baby
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>>174186547
havent played it since they removed westernisation so shut the fuck up
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At what point during history since 2AD was Persia/some equivalent empire strongest?
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>>174187170
good luck in defending against crusades and jihads
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>>174187267
already beaten a couple of jihads, not looking forward to the crusades
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The Fire Rises!

Thanks to a recent crisis, Elsass is now independent and allied to Prussia.
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Hi,

I have a couple of questions about EU4 Mandate of Heaven:

1) How do you add people at Meclis? I didn't now how but it eventually filled up, but I'd really like to know how to do it.

2) I'm doing a world conquest run as Ottomans and looks like I'm not going to make it. Its already 1760s and Russia is still huge (already i've split them apart) Ming is still big and alive, and I haven't conqured Americas yet. I'd like to ask on what Ideas I should have taken in doing a world conquest run and what general tips for it. For reference this is the ideas that I took in order:

Influence
Offensive
Administrative
Colonialism
Aristocratic
Diplomaic
Humanist

Thanks
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>>174187428
are you the same person who posts in this format every time?
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Realized that Confucianism is a pretty good religion to move cap to america with.

Loads of pagans there, so if you just harmonize once you've pretty much solved your religious problem without taking an idea group.
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>>174157464
I think repression has the most tempo.
Further in the game it is less powerful as you get more settler growth from other sources.

cooexistance may have some uses if you're small and weak and can't really afford keeping units in the province.

Trading has the most value. Trying it now since I only started colonizing with my 3rd idea.
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>>174187383
This is interesting.

Here's a question for all of /gsg/: How would this play out in OTL? Would the Alsatian separatism be far less notable?
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>>174187516
hpm why don't you work on eu4, it has so much more potential than Vicky 2 because of the expanded timeline, and I'm sure you could get development to work better than in MEIOU + Taxes
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>>174187428
What is your absolutism at?

What is stopping you from expanding?
Money, mana, manstrength?
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>>174188023
don't tell anyone, but that's why 2.0 is taking so long. I've teamed up with the M&T team for the overhaul
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>>174186226
>monarchy, not even once
With the heavy Absolutism penalties republics get Monarchies might be better.

Disinherits and ruler skills was a big buff for monarchies, and this is yet another.
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>>174188268
absolutism i think i'm at 62%.

I can't expand that fast due to war exhaustion and overextension
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>>174188268
>>174188419
Guys, just give me the basics of what absolutionism is?
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>>174188471
mainly a lot of things but its for admin efficiency
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>>174167286
>France
new waifu
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>>174188268
ah sorry, money i'm fine I'm at 3K, Mana a little bit on the Diplo I think 136 19 870 since i'm basically invading and vassalizing then giving their land back to the african nations manstrength is 33K
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This kills the bong
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>>174165049
he's more ironpilled desu
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>>174165049
lift and be redpilled brah
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>>174188775
No artillery....

British tactics at their finest
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>>174158148
One of the yeren hordes so you can get 100% cav ratio.
One of the manchu hordes so you get better ideas.

>goal
Conquer all the eurasian steppe provinces and beat down Ming. Don't take the mandate though.
>goal 2
take the mandate
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>Occultist Montreal
>ruled by the ancient House Mahonic

oh fug
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>>174188419
>war exhaustion
Get innovative ideas earlier on
>overextension
try to keep one vassal at most times that you feed a bit and eventually annex as you start feeding a new one.

>>174188471
>Guys, just give me the basics of what absolutionism is?
Gives you discipline and administrative efficiency
>what does administrative efficiency do?
it lowers the core cost, the overextension from provinces and the warscore cost of provinces.

>>174188739
Ah, the money, mana, manstrength wasn't a seperate question, but rather suggestion on what was stopping your expansion.
Do you stop because you don't have enough mana, money or manstrength(manpower and general combat abilities).
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At what year discipline start become crucial?
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>>174189326
thanks, i should have taken innovative first although since I was Ottomans I was thinking if I should pick Admin or Innovative early on back then.

>Do you stop because you don't have enough mana, money or manstrength(manpower and general combat abilities).

So what happens is this:

wage war
win war - take a lot of land
lower war exhaustion using diplo then vassal feed to remove overextend
eventually end up lagging behind diplo
eventually fight in europe and i can't vassal since their dev is too high so i eat up overextension
same in americas
wait a bit while killing rebels left and right
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ok, I only need 1 more to have 3 holy sites, question is how I'll beat denmark and then get to 50% authority... my guy is 80 years old aswell, about to croak.
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>>174188926
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this god damn son of a whore was like three provinces away from being first around the world
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>>174189710
>eventually fight in europe and i can't vassal since their dev is too high so i eat up overextension
Later on you can create client states from the province window, and you can also conquer land and release a nation as vassal.

Like if you conquer Poland, and then you release Mazovia as a vassal, and keep feeding Mazovia a bit.


Admin is still very good early on, should probably get it before.

Don't get diplo, don't get aristo.

For you maybe Admin>Offensive>Innovative/Humanist>Quality>Humanist/Innovative>Defensive would work
>>
eu4

anyone know the name of the event that gives +60(or 50?) relations to three different countries? I think it mentioned the word "rivial."
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britain just let me get the asshole tore by germany and austria-hungary while they stacked troops in egypt even tho the ottomans already had capitulated

ingenious anglo strategy
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>>174190134
>Later on you can create client states from the province window, and you can also conquer land and release a nation as vassal.
gawdfuckingdammit i knew i was forgetting something

>Admin>Offensive>Innovative/Humanist>Quality>Humanist/Innovative>Defensive

seems to be missing colonialism though since that colonial nation is minus the nation that i have to conquer.
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>>174148896
does HPM include all the changes made in the gsg-mod?
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>>174189879
Oh this is excellent
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How ebin is this plan, /gsg/
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>>174191109
looks good to me but why give french land to uk
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>>174191352
because normandy is rightful english land.
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>>174191352
>who were the Norman kings
>>
please

i need...

an invite...

to the liquord or any of the liquords
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>>174191414
1000 years ago
might as well give silesia, lusatia and pommerania to poland
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>>174191109
no land to spain
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>>174191562

might as well kill themselves and repopulate europe with neanderthals
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>>174191708
"black people
>>174191472
sent ;)
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>>174148896
So my character died because the banging was too good, and now Quazimotto the second(who is also ugly) is taking over and he's only three.

Fuck my life. Italy is doomed.
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>>174191109
>playing as Germany
>taking Franche comte for yourself
Just why?
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>>174191842

true dat f a m
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What should my goals be?
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>>174191875
because i want to ;-)
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>>174192008

mandate of heaven
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>>174192008
Reclaim the mainland.
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>>174161343
They accept throwaway emails, just make an account.
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>>174189879
The British army in WW1 were the opposite of cowardice, in fact, they were the most needlessly jingoistic army in history.
>defending another country's land by mass infantry attacks on machine gun trenches in a pointless war for no other reason than wanting to test your new ships
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bring it, fgt
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>>174192260

in my DH game they just sat on egypt and I was raped by germany / austria-hungary
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>>174192008
>Kuomintang
>1399
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How does this plan look?
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>>174192008

full decentralization full tradition wc
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>>174192569
Take bohemia too, and the baltic contries
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>>174192569
Annex Boehmen und Maehren.
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>>174192569
>no sudtirol
>no istrien
>no krain
It's absolute cancer. Due to the thickness of the lines I can't tell if you have Sudetenland or not but if you don't then kill yourself.
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>>174192569

>literally posting his phantom grob germaniuns
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What's the deal with grossgermaniums?

Why are people so obsessed with making a colossal germanic hegemony?

Is there something innately appealing about a german superstate?

Or is it naziboos being weenies?
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>>174192806
>>174193007
>THIS triggered
How much of a spaz do you have to be to get offended by borders in a virtual game?
>>
Is there any point in lowering taxes in Vic 2?
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>>174193007

nazis yeah
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>>174192569
Serious question here, were prussian people slavs?
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>>174193286
no, east germanics.

Maybe(?) some urgo-finnic blood, just by virtue of being near them.
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>>174193286
They were, but Germans sort of assimilated them, in the same way Anglo-Saxons assimilated Celts in England.

And by assimilate I mean killed most of and inevitably bred with a few of.
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>>174193184

because you liquy autists post this same fucking run 50 times a day that I can already draw the lebensraum perfectly on my head
>>
So, let's say I just had a game of CKII where the HRE never formed.

What happens to the HRE and its mechanic in EU4 if I port the CKII game over to EU4?

Does it just not exist? OR does it exist but acts defunct(the HRE screen button is greyed out)?
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>>174193418
>liquy
>inane hatred of germans
>terrible grammar
Hello, Gruica.
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>>174193007
It's a combination of both the ease and the challenge of forming grobdeutschlandiums.

You see, Germany is a land rich with resources and men, this is the ease I speak of.
However, literally everyone HATES Germans because they could foresee muh six centillion. As such, everyone tries to destroy Germany. This is where the difficulty comes into play.

The player must make the best use of his generous yet limited manpower and resources to survive such an overwhelming force.
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>>174193497
It just doesn't exist. That's what you get for playing meme dates.
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>>174193223
brump
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>>174193762
based concierge
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>>174193702
if you have decent income do it to keep your pops happy
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>>174193567
Oh. That really does sound fun.

I might give it a whirl then.

Thanks for helping me understand the kraut.
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Alright, will this appease /gsg/'s autism?
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>>174194060

>he posted it again
>not only that but the borders are actually disgusting now
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>>174194060
>south ""germans""

shiggy
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>>174194060
>STILL no sudtirol, krain or istrien
Fuck off.
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Let's hope I can make a white peace with Ming
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>>174194060
Why not just do this?
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>>174194163
Truly the grobest of deutschlands
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>Try EU IV after the new release
>Try nation with the best flag
>I have 14 ships at start nice.
>Fabricate a claim on Circassia while waiting for Mameluks to get alliance with you so you can go and take Constantinople
>Conquer Circassia
>Get 100 ducats
>Sell one of your provinces to Ottomans for 250 ducats.
>1 year later Ottoman declare war for the remaining one province.
>Give it to Ottomans at day one without firing a bullet.
>Convert to Orthodoxy.
Everything is going so smoothly. Should I go full Caucasia or should jump to Byzantium then Morocco, then Colonize and become a Colonial Empire with the best flag?
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At least I can keep Okinawa.
It costed around a hundred or so ducats.
Basically free.
It's fucking humiliating of course but who cares.
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breddy gud 30yw so far.

on top of the league war, me, austria and russia are at war with france, the pope and portugal.
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>>174194163
Went from Groß to Gross.
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>>174194445
rip
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Thoughts on the new Romania tree?
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>>174194946
Fuck off hoI4 babby.
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>>174194946
HOI4 is an abomination and should not be posted here for the good of all Anons.
>>
After the End keeps crashing for me. I'm on the latest patch using the lastest download from the forums.

The error log lists files being missing or something. What's up?
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>>174195263
Purpose?
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nice crusade, retards
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>>174191109
>Blobbing into France
>Francuck fetish in general
Balkan plan looks good though.
>>
I just got an event in EU4 called "Colonial Expansion" and it says "some of our citizens decided to strike out and found a new colony." It gives me two options: 200 settlers arrive in a new colony or I can gain 50 population in the colony I am establishing.

My question is: what happens if I pick the 200 settler option for a new colony if I already have 2 colonists building a colony elsewhere? Is it useless to pick this option if I have no available colonists to support the 200 settlers?
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>>174195435
Looking for cute borders
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>>174194946

same tree as the others but with new madlibs
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>>174194060
I threw up in my mouth. Looks like a fucking meatball.
>>
>>174195536
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>>174195521
You can have more colonies running than you have colonists.
The problem is that that the %colonist chance doesn't run for those, and for each colony you're above your #colonists you get increasing costs.

So I think it's like 2 ducats a colony, but if you have one colony, that colony costs 4.
Two colonies over and one of them costs 4, the second one 6.
and so on.
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>>174193286
>>174193337

retards. they were baltics.

until they got GERMAN'D
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>>174195763
Ok, thanks.
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>>174195763
>>174195521
>and for each colony you're above your #colonists you get increasing costs.

hugely increased.

still i like to go at least one above, more if i'm rich
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>>174194445
How are you going to expand from there?
Try to get a coastal CoT or even better a border with a horde province and use the colonists to take over the East Indies.
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>>174195908
Ah it was that much more
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>>174195908
What a realistic and believable mechanic.
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>>174196091
>play meme game
>get memed on
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How do I form the Roman Empire as France ? I only managed to conquer like 75% of it, the problem is I don't know how to deal with overexpansion, I heard I should be vassal feeding but I don't know how
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>>174195923
I will wait for Ming to fall apart.
I wanted to inherit shit.
Maybe wreck Korea.

but first I need to repay the two loans and rebuild the navy+fortify the main island
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rate my government
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>>174196091

the state infrastructure, physical, organizational, and ideological, supports a certain level of colonial investment. going beyond that is an extreme effort.

>what do you mean it's not linear??? >anonymous retard
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>Either accept corruption or lose most of my money for a laughable amount of prestige
I will take the cash
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>>174196487
I really want to go back and play EU3 but I don't want to fuck around with combining mods (miscmods + CanOmer's Map). Anyone feel like uploading?
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>>174196415
>having three colonies costs 6 ducats
>having 6 costs 40
>paradrones unironically defend this broken meme
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>>174196661
molyneux.png
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How long do jews and zoroastrians usually survive?
Been thinking about a confucian game where I harmonize all religions.
Not sure how doable it is as Not-Ming
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How do we fix infamy in vic2 /gsg/
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what version of eu4 do I need for voltaires nightmeme
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>>174197691
Make it scale properly with the value of the wargoals the victor is taking. For example taking a state with more provinces, more pops, more industry, etc. should cost more infamy than taking a state with less of those.
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>>174197691
Literally just ignore it.
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Byzantine strategies in EU4? Or is it pretty much just bend over and grab your ankles?
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>>174197963
Basically a dice roll at the start. You need poland and Hungary to ally you. Maybe Austria too
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>>174197814
Also Culture should come into play. If you're taking a province with a large population of your accepted culture, you should use up less infamy
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>>174196289
>Authoritarian Laissez-Faire
I don't get it.
>please intervene in my/someone else's business
>NO
>stop oppressing me
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>>174198204
Mussolini's Italy was Authoritarian Lassiez-Faire for the most part
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Tell a fun story of a cheevo run you did in CK2!
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>>174196289
What game?
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>Ming vassalized every horde
Fuck this shit
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>>174196289
rate
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What's the best way to form the Lone Star in After the End?
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>>174198302
>corporatism
>authoritarian laissez-faire
WHAT are you smoking
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>>174198701
What's that island near HK? Is it it's own province?
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tfw the reformation spawns in fucking Moldavia
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>>174198204
basically you can do whatever the fuck you want except talk shit about the military, which are the bunch of thugs that run everything. they don't really give much of fuck about anything anybody does and only tax corporations really lightly but it's enough to keep them supplied with weapons to keep everyone down. sometimes they'll go door to door and demand resources or money from people at random but that's only in times of crisis or war or whatever, the status quo is the corporate tax and the few monopolistic corporations don't really mind since an expansion of this horrible empire means better for them. that's the other thing is that this military-state is super expansionist and doesn't really have much in the way of foreign policy except conquering shit as long as it's viable. the inner nature of the military ("government") itself is sort of like a really hardcore cult. people join because it pays well and you get to beat people up.

>>174198876
needs more mil spending
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>>174200520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP2JPwbtq0g
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>>174196289
r8 me
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>>174201143
really good but how are you going to deal with the debt
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>>174201143
>desire to know more intensifies
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>>174201249
>ensure that the central bank is beholden to public interests, and intervenes in the currency towards such an end
>handful of robust trade agreements with reliable, trustworthy, and valuable foreign economies
>re-aligning policy and government away from private, foreign interests
>state capitalism fosters both public and private growth
>etc
Such is the life of a National Populist.
>>174201270
What do you want to know?
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>>174201609
Also,
>nationalized central bank and highly restricted foreign debt ensures that deficit spending is more sustainable and less detrimental in the long-term.
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>>174200757
>more

dude NATO 2% lol
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Whats a fun nation to play as in CWE?
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Redpill me on Vicky2 HPM
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>>174201609
>What do you want to know?
>not knowing the meme
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>>174202348
it's the only GS worth playing, along with the only mod worth using
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>>174202456
>knowing memes

excuse me i have a life
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>>174202535
faggot
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>>174202535
no one in this general has a life
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>>174202535
toxic redditor SHIT
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>>174202535
fuck off, Chad.
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>>174202535
>le ebin dog pile
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>>174202535
look at this nigger
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>excuse me i have a life
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>>174202348
It's pretty detailed, but all the effort is put onto slightly railroaded paths, the quickly start to look out of place if you do something Ahistorical
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>>174202535
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>>174202456
you used it wrong
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You do know he was meming himself, right, lads? You can tell by the lack of capitalisation or punctuation.
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>>174196289
>>174198876
>>174201143
What game? Looks great.
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>>174203350
>You do know he was meming himself, right, lads? You can tell by the lack of capitalisation or punctuation.
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where is HPM???
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>>174203420
how much do you want to bet the kids were fathered by nigs?
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What do empty event boxes mean in CK2? Some sort of missing event error? I can't bypass it or anything.
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>>174203420
What are you trying to convey with this text/image combo?

Judging by the filename, you think it's wrong to ahve a girlfriend of that age, which Ill go out on a limb and say that you somehow equate having a girlfriend like that is being a cuck, and since cuck is synonymous with reddit, you're implying that proper grammar is reddit behavior, which is something we should shun and despise.

DId I get that right?

IF so, you a nigger and need to shut up.
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>>174203418
http://filteries.com/politics
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>>174203782
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>>174203782
yeah that was pretty obvious I thought

if you have autism you can meta-analyze things all you want to help you along
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>>174203817
neat. I know what Im fiddling with for the next hour.

Thank you anon. HAve cool picture as thanks.
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>What are you trying to convey with this text/image combo?
>Judging by the filename, you think it's wrong to ahve a girlfriend of that age, which Ill go out on a limb and say that you somehow equate having a girlfriend like that is being a cuck, and since cuck is synonymous with reddit, you're implying that proper grammar is reddit behavior, which is something we should shun and despise.
>DId I get that right?
>IF so, you a nigger and need to shut up.
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>>174204056
>parents let him wear a shirt with the word fuck on it
Bad parenting! Sad!
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>>174204146
ill fuck you if you dont shut up
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/me doesnt shut up
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>>174196289
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*notices 0% military spending*
owo whats this
*invades u*
*occupies you in a day*
heh nothin personell
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>>174203817
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>>174204146

smdh if you're kid ain't at least this cool
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rate me I'm retarded
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>>174204913
>buy nukes one time
>never buy any sort of military tech again
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>>174205178
hello Iran
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>>174204926
this is pretty based ngl
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>>174205232
But you need a military budget to maintain those nukes and to train people to use those nukes in case of them needing to be used.

Also, there are many instances when nuking something is not the best idea.
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>>174205312
thats funny because I took a "what country do you align with politically" and I got iran
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>>174205437
>thats funny because I took a "what country do you align with politically" and I got iran
>tfw i got china doing one of those
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How good is England for a relatively new player?

I'm scared of France
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>>174205640
be a real man and play the scotch
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>>174205640
uhh kid what board do you think this is /v/ is the other way this is for serious geopolitical discussions and we don't do things like play dumb little simulator videogames ok
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Ave Império.
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/im with her/
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>>174205640
>scared of frogs
release Gascony and Normandy as vassals and blob away
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>>174205369
>falling for the maintenance jew
That only applies for consumer goods, where products are made to fail.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence#Contrived_durability

>there are many instances when nuking something is not the best idea.
It's a deterrent, get invaded, get fucked. Don't get invaded, everybody lives.
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>>174205640
it's pretty easy, but managing your armies in india and the rest of the colonies can be overwhelming, france isn't really a threat and prussia should be able to deal with them alone
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Place your bets, /gsg/
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i know i'm white, but, /gsg/, am i based?
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>>174206518
Based Norks. Fund them, lad, stop the Capitalist Consumrist class from winning. You can justify it because Labour are in power.
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>>174206518
Is this Darkest Hour? Would recommend?
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>>174206647
>free speech restricted for defamation
*locks u up for hate speech*
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>>174206830
shit, is that what 'defamation' means?
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>>174206647
>central bank
Hello Rothschild.
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>>174207060
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>The 1st of July, 1950
>New York, New York, USA
The tensions on the Korean peninsula have boiled over into open conflict.
The North, backed by Bejing and Moscow, has crossed the frontier into the US backed South and is quickly pushing to Busan.
A special session of the Security Council with all nations in attendance bar the Soviets who are currently boycotting over the Chinese Strait crisis.
The developing opinion among the member states is to vote for full support of the democratic South.

>Support intervention and material support
>Vote for material support only
>Veto it!
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>>174207282
>it's fine if the kike is part of my government
HELLO ROTHSCHILD
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>>174207057
I don't know, it could mean defamation as in downright lying about other people (x is a pedo) or it couldn't mean defaming as in calling them racial slurs. It's ambiguous.
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>>174207351
V E T O
E
T
O
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>>174207351
SUPPORT INTERVENTION

CRUSH THE GOMMIES
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>>174207351
Can you intervene to support the North? If not, veto. If yes, intervene for the Norks.

Also
>implying a couple of light cruisers can do shit
Did you confuse them for CVLs, or CVs?
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>>174207387
>implying i would even let kikes enter my 'ethno-militaristic one-party secular nationalist fascist state'
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>>174207529
>Implying I'm not a naval master
That's a game-start OOB fleet. It's fine enough for moderate ASW/escorting transports
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Sounds about right
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>>174207351
INTERVENE
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>>174207634
What's a basic carrier fleet for (You), Poseidon?
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>>174205312
But Iran has no rights for homosexuals and full rights for transsexuals as long as the sex change makes their relationship "straight."
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>>174207574
No anon, you are the kike.
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>>174207869
>But Iran has no rights for homosexuals and full rights for transsexuals as long as the sex change makes their relationship "straight."
Jesus Christ, I don't know who's Jewing who anymore.
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>>174207815
The absolute goat fleet comp, of course.
Two separate fleets of 30/30 CV/CL (can swap out the CLs for CAs but neither of them will ever be in firing range regardless) operating in the same region with one posted in the sea province that the enemy's main port is located in. Going over the command cap is irrelevant at that point.
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>>174207875
rude
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Is there any hope of me losing this trait?
Even with the +1.5 health from my education and the family focus, I still can't shake it.
What do?
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>>174208126
>thirty carriers
Jesus Christ, DH is a meme game.
>no stacking penalty
>no actual physical seperate CAGs you can manually control
Why did EvW have to die?
>ywN move your SSBN to the shores of your enemy to remind them one wrong move and you will set the world ablaze
Why live?
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>>174208159
*raises interest rate*
>>
when did this stop being /gsg/ and start being /shittypoliticalhoroscopes/
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>>174208385
>No stacking penalty
There's a command cap penalty but CVs are so overpowered that it never matters. They have a range so large that the only time it will ever be threatened is by a 99x1 Sub doomstack or against a similar stack in Multiplayer.
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>>174208540
*blocks your path*
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Alright lads got a little off track from the original goal. I ended up being allied with france instead because they sided with me, furthermore my efforts to destroy US industry in the spanish-american war just helped them pass more reforms. I'm stuck at four in industry and have stymied the end goal of fascist Mediterranean by winning wars
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>>174208541
When did we start letting faggots who didn't care about politics in geopokktical games in /gsg/? I bet you like stellaris too, you massive bell-end.
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>>174208541
It's the fucking Europa Casualis shitters.
This is what you get for memeing all over Victoria but allowing this shitty excuse of a map painting simulator to stay.

sage
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>>174208883
>israel
upvoted
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>>174208901
>you can't enjoy vidya games unless you engage in my power hungry fantasy world
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>>174208883
>not even taking the time to draw the map paint feature properly
Why even use it?
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>>174208710
This guy gets it.
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>>174207351
Veto it, I want to see what happens if NK unifies
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>>174209104
These games are fucking about power hungry fantasy worlds, lad, what do you do, deliberately loss every fucking game? Are you a fucking spastic.
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>>174208167
DER JUDE
TOD FÜR DIE JUDE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Gommies forever and always blown the fuck out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaIpn6Oo9FU

>>174209290
The vote was 2-2 so I flipped a coin for intervention.
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Vic 2, got 5M sitting in my bank, and strong industry with a massive army and navy

What do?
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>>174209324
t. europa casualis blobber
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>>174209532
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>>174209686
increase social spending and lower tariffs and taxes and military spending.
>>
So does HoI3 or HoI4 let you go past the end date?
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>>174209851
Damn
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>>174209532
>replacing ethnonationalist traditionalist military state with cucky western puppet capitalist consumerist trash
Delete yourself.
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>>174210634
t. Kim
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Do you have to become the Gayopean Union in CWE mod or can I just make a based nationalist dictatorship? Is any nation viable like in HPM?

I want to uncuck sweden.
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>>174210967
let immigrants in, then become a dictatorship and kill them all
>>
So what's the deal with attacking colonial nations now?

Looks like you don't call their owner if you have a province bordering them?
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>>174209851
How are SSBN's represented in this game/mod?
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>>174211491
They're included but I believe engine limitations makes them glorified Submarines.

I'm trying to find one in the 1980 start date, otherwise it takes 2000 days to build one.
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>>174212106
>I'm trying to find one in the 1980 start date
Giving up on this campaign already?
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>>174209062
Greater israel would had been formed if the soviets didn't expose UK selling out the arabs
>>
new thread when
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r8 me
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>>174212712
>technocratic
why
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>>174212154
No I just wanted to find an example to show him.
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>>174212878
Good, because i-im really enjoying this
>>
What does /gsg/ think of Reman?
>>
>>174213001
literally who
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>>174212871
Eugenics
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>>174213001
?
>>
DH or HoI3?
>>
>>174213085
>>174213205
Guy with the Reman's Paradox channel on YT.
Makes a lot of in-depth guides about mechanics and tries to present them as best as he can after autistically examining them.

This anon posted a chart he made on his WC guide >>174189326
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>>174213707
>WC guide
Why do people do this? Destroying the franchise. "Don't play for fun, don't play for diplomacy, don't play for strategy, play for ebin jan ryukulms wc 3d map casual pro shit!"
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>>174213894
What does WC mean?
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>>174213894
He made a guide to those who want, he didn't advertise it as something others would do.

I mean, it's common knowledge that just becoming a medium power in-game already means the fun ended.
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>>174214002
World conquest. AKA unironically completely playing the game as a min max blobbing simulator.
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>>174214127
>woah dood its just a guide to do something specific doesnt mean you have to actually do that specific yhing he made a guide for ahha dood wats ur problem
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Reaper's Due.
Bad expansion, or worst expansion?
All it does is make everybody sick all the time.
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>>174214154
>tfw wc is usually the endgame goal of my mega campaigns
I'm just waiting for Winter Kings & Rise of Islam to get updated so I can start from the 400s.
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>>174214458
>>tfw wc is usually the endgame goal of my mega campaigns
>mega campaigns
so you never get past ck2?
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>>174213894
i like WC'ing. the fact that it has a time limit it becomes a race against time and colonies

plus Ming is more of a challenge now
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>>174214458
What would your goal be if not painting the map your color?
Isn't that kinda the point of every grand strategy game except maybe CK2?
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>>174214710
>plus Ming is more of a challenge now
What?
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>>174214587
Actually I go to the end of HoI3.

Winter Kings is mainly just British Isles so it's nothing to make a modded version of whatever happened there for Rise of Islam.

Rise of Islam is actually exceptionally lightweight (around 3MB) and goes through the converter just fine for me.
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>>174214740
they don't mingsplosion anymore
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>>174214764
you misunderstood, i meant, if the goal is to actively conquer the world, can't you easily finish it by ck2?
i'll actually take a look at those mods tho
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>>174214810
It sounds like you meant playing as them was harder.
They were never hard before because they weren't fucking modernized when you found them.
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r8 my 100% unironic state
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Why is this in my /gsg/ folder? I don't even know who the fuck it is.
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>>174215083
>cannabis: legal
highschool --->
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>>174215131
thats turkslayer
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>>174215016
i still find them annoying to fight with since they're so fucking many plus that huge amount of gold means more mercs for me to fight
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>>174215083
0/10
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>>174214729
I set goals beforehand.

CK2 I set up my initial empire. EU4 I expand a bit and colonize elsewhere (sometimes I bumrush Manifest Destiny & release USA), Vic2 I finally blob Europe, and HoI3 is the final world war between all the massive blobs that exist by this point to take over the world.

Sometimes I then convert that HoI3 save to DEFCON (a converter actually exists) and then wrap THAT up in After the End.
>>174214894
Technically I can only go to India in CK2, but yeah I do deliberately hinder myself. I get my borders up to where I'm happy, upgrade my empire and such so I can just watch, and see what happens. Usually the Persian Empire revives, Germania forms, and India unites.

Also do so, the mods are great.
>>
about to embark on my first megacampaign
what nation and conditions should I go with for maximum redpill?
Was thinking about byzaboo
>>
>>174215167
I don't smoke myself, but if a drug has to be legal, and society very much indicates at least one does, then it should be weed.

>>174215250
But why, anon? Nothing I support is unusual. :^)
>>
>>174215256
What converters do you use? I can never find good ones, most times i end up with Bizantines on muslim tech group.
>>
>>174215215
why is the file name "google in monkey?"
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>>174215083
>pacifist
>state atheism
>affirmative action
>paid maternity AND equal wages
>freedom of speech restricted against minorities
>state monopoly on healthcare
>massive corporate and capital gains tax
>ridiculous consumption tax

nigga pls
>>
>>174215368
How about one that doesn't turn you into a raging faggot for life, such as tobacco and alcohol?
>>
>>174215398
https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/wiki/converters These ones with some manual tweaking afterwards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/44fotn/hoi3_to_defcon_converter/ Here's the DEFCON converter.
>>
>>174215358
Ottomans
>>
>>174214317
Oh it's the redditor.
>>
>>174215582
Zoroastrian Seljuk
>>
>>174215358
Finland -> Russia -> Roman Empire -> Finland
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>>174215538
>actually linking plebbit
>no one is calling this out
I fucking hate this place.
>>
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>>174210967
>>174211168
Is there a special way to play this mod or is it standard V2 gameplay? I obviously can't go start taking colonies in the 20th century.
>>
>>174215446
>murifat being a murifat
most of those things are objectively good to people with sense desu
>>
>>174215735
>not recognizing the link in the first place
>not having /gsg/ as your subreddit

cmon
>>
>>174215789
I'm not even american

Justify each one of those
>>
>>174215789
Why are bait posts ALWAYS in lower case with no punctuation?
>>
>>174215789
not an argument
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>>174215789
Get in the fucking helicopter
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>>174215651
I like playing female rulers so ill go with zoroastrians persians in the charlememe start
>>
>>174215828
war hurts people

religion hurts people

makes things more equal

women cna work and be payed equally

prevents violent groups from hurting people

prevents pharmaceutical companies from hurting people

more money to give to the poor

^^^
>>
>>174215957
>not wrong, but that doesn't justify it
>wrong
>bad
>bad
>bad
>sure whatever idc
>bad
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Would you a female Andrew Jackson?
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>>174215957
Tripping and falling to the ground hurts people too, i suppose the government should ban floors too huh.
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>>174216071
you forgot one
>>
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wtf does this mean?
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>>174216189
That's a pretty well programmed app.
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>>174216189
Looks like a warhammer mod portrait
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>>174216196
which
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>>174216303
^^^
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>>174216232
it means they're richer and stronger than you
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>>174216365
>>174216189
do one with alex
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>>174216459
I have 21 provinces and a 3 province vassal, he has 2 provinces and 6 troops to my 14. That makes zero sense. I can beat the shit out of him and take his land, but I have a mission to vassalize him.
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is florry bi or gay?
just asking
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Would you?
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>>174216607
just mil vassalize them bro. friendly vasalize rarely works
>>
>>174216716
Do Kim Jong Un.
>>
>>174215957
>war is sometimes necessary, and sometimes has to happen in order to protect the national interests and increase prosperity back home (e.g protecting the petrodollar)

>people should be free to practice whatever religion they want, oppression like this hurts people far more than religion does

>jobs and school places should be based on how good you are, not on your race - that's racist. we should be giving people equal opportunities, not making sure the outcome is the same for all demographics

>paid maternity leave makes it more expensive for businesses to employ women. if you make them pay them pay the same for men and women, AND THEN make it so businesses have to spend more money should a female employee fall pregnant, the business will have a reason to prefer male employees over females. personally i believe wages should be equal and maternity leave should come out of taxes

>words cant fucking hurt people. if you want to call someone a nigger, you should be allowed to. sticks and stones

>it also prevents competition in healthcare and typically only gives shitty healthcare to the people. plus, if you can spend more on private healthcare, you should totally be allowed to - perhaps even expected to so as not to put extra pressure on a system designed to help the poorest

>also less jobs for the poor as economic stagnation and a brain drain ensue and businesses prioritise other markets that aren't so hostile to them.

>a high consumption tax would increase the price of goods and services drastically, which would put more pressure on the poor as they would be less able to buy the things they need
>>
>>174216489
>>174216716
is this Great Strategy?
>>
>>174216716
lol looks like my uncle vinnie
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>>174216778
That, my friend, is the God of grand strategy.
>>
>>174215083
>rifles
>>illegal
>shotguns
>>illegal
>handguns
>FUKKEN LEGAL
It's like you've never even heard of guncrime other than sandy hook
>>
>>174216926
nah m8 handguns are smaller lol thier less powerful and cant kill huhuhuhuhu
>>
>>174216916
that's not florry nor arumba though
>>
>>174217006
Can we talk about the games please
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>>174217030
>talking about games

go back to >>>r/paradoxplaza lel
>>
>making guns illegal stops gun crime
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>>174217091
I don't want to join your reddit board, I want to have serious discussion here.
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>>174217190
>serious discussion
>here
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>sweden
>colonies
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>>174217280
Thats a global event fag
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>tfw you will never live in an anarcho-technocratic monarchy
unironically this would be a great place to live in
>>
>>174217340
and?
>>
>>174217372
>technocracy

you wouldn't let an economist do brain surgery, why let a brain surgeon do economics?
>>
>>174217476
t. doesn't understand technocracy
>>
>>174217442
It fires for everyone
>>
>>174217541
Explain it then
>>
What DLC is necessary to make EU4 playable?

Usually i'd get them all but at this point its more expensive to get all the DLC than the base game.
>>
>>174217372
>cannabis
>illegal
but weed makes u smart xD
>>
>>174217558
ok
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>>174217590
>buying DLC
>>
>>174217590
#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume
read the op ledditor
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>>174217575
not what you think it is
>>
>>174217713
fucking weeb

>>174217784
like im going to trust any of those downloads
>>
>>174217810
so it's not a system of governance where decision-makers are selected on the basis of technological knowledge. Scientists, engineers, technologists, or experts in any field, would compose the governing body, instead of elected representatives.[1] Leadership skills would be selected on the basis of specialized knowledge and performance, rather than parliamentary skills.[2] Technocracy in that sense of the word (an entire government run as a technical or engineering problem) is mostly hypothetical. In another commonly used sense, technocracy is any portion of a bureaucracy that is run by technologists in technically and analytically sound ways.
>>
Thoughts on religious ideas now that deus vult is the last idea in the group?

All the other ideas are trash imo, so it doesn't seem worth it even if you do get the best cb for half of the game.
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>>174218024
Then go and give your money to Johan, faggot.
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>>174218037
you thought it was a brain surgeon "doing" economics
>>
>>174218046
i'd seriously get humanist instead
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oh baby
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>>174218024
>like im going to trust any of those downloads
>not trusting the based russian site
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>+20% morale
this seems broken
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>>174218157
What's primary?
>>
>>174218046
>he doesn't take religious for the sole purpose of conversion
>>
>>174218191
Not him but I am a bit hesitant to give the Russians an email.

Unless they don't have confirmation and I can just use a BS one.
>>
>>174218290
Even if they did have confirmation, you could still make a fake one. Get out you fucking retarded normie.
>>
>>174218290
Yes the evil russian hackers will come for you, so scary!!
>>
>>174218286
If you go humanist instead you don't even need to convert anyone and you get several ideas that are actually good in addition.
>>
>>174218290
if you are so scared of your super-valuable information getting leaked by the russians just make a throwaway in 5 minutes
>https://protonmail.com/
>>
>>174218357
Putin I know you're mad about your height but suc language is really unnecessary.
>>
>>174215083
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>
>>174218435
>linking a russian site
fuck vlad here's your 0.5 rubble
>>
>>174218207
Anglois
>>
>>174216716
holy shit female grandi looks so real
>>
>>174218441
Haha lmao remember to Pokemon Go to the polls and vote for CHILLary Clinton!
>>
>>174216926
More like he doesn't even know what actual gun laws are like.

Seriously, long barrel guns are generally legal or less restricted far, far more commonly than handguns. Mainly because handguns are considered by lawmakers to be exclusively a weapon to be used on other human beings, whereas long barrels could be used for hunting/pest control etc.
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>>174218604
Putin, come on, now, what's eating you. Did Todd Howard bail on you again?
>>
>>174218604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwaiyjh1dGk
>>
>>174218752
So you admit Obama likes looking at male midget's asses?
>>
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>>174218887
He married a tranny so who knows.

Now, come on. You should've known better than to trust Todd to keep his promise to hang out.
>>
>>174218157
NECK YOURSELF CUNT

BREXIT NOW
>>
What were Christian states like France and England's excuse for allying with the radical Islamists of the Ottoman Empire?
>>
>>174219214
The taste of innocent Aryan blood is too sweet to pass up.
>>
>>174219214
Delicious Spanish and German tears.
>>
>>174219214
It was just a bit of banter m8
>>
>>174219214
But for real it was using arabs as a proxy to take down the t*rks
>>
>>174219521
If only it had been the secular Arab nationalists rather than the durka ones.
>>
>>174219521
Was someone using arabs as a proxy to take them down this time too?
>>
has the swiss cultures minimod ever been updated? if not, i guess i'll do it myself
>>
What do you think Vicky 3 will be?

>A great game that expands on all the parts of Vicky 2 we loved, fills in the weak spots, and adds more features and extra difficulty

>HOI 4 but with tanks and a less confusing economy lol xDDD
>>
>>174220132
You mean like did Erdogan rile up Islamists to get more control? Yeah.
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would you live here /gsg/?
>>
>>174220459
Probably the latter but it'll likely get official converters for EU4 & HoI4.
>>
>>174220459

The former
but let's be real it'll be some version of the latter. I miss old Paradox
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>>174220485
So the Turk used Arabs to fuck over the Turks?
>>
>>174220595
Erdogan used radical Islamists to gain control of Turkey.
>>
>>174220459
The latter that becomes the former after $300 of DLC.
>>174220519
Hell no. Your place is a fucking breeding ground for organized crime.
>>
>>174220637
That's what I said.
>>
>>174220595
It's not really the same state anymore. Better to look at it from secular/religious lines rather than ethnic.
>>
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Stellaris goes here, right?
hahahahaha look at the name of this civ
>>
>>174220519
>0% science funding
No
>>
>>174219283
>durka
>>174219379
>>174219432
>>174219521
But lads Ottomen themselves murdered tons of Christians and UK and France were like 'lmao who cares kiddo'
>>
>>174220735
No it doesn't, now stop ripping posts from reddit
>>
>>174220686
Erdogan didn't use Arabs, tho.
>>
>>174220519
looks like ass how the fuck am I going to sit around and play videogames if the government is so autistic
>>
>>174212712
Rate my fucking thingy you fucking retards. I didn't slave away for ten minutes making it for one measly reply.
>>
>>174220745
What do you want science funding for? Government organised sexbots?
Well the free market does it even better
>>174220669
how can there be crime if criminals are killed?
>>
>>174221027
I'm a scientist and I need a job.

No corporation is gonna operate in your borders.
>>
New thread?
>>
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>>174221073
>I'm a scientist
>>
>>174221073
>No corporation is gonna operate in your borders

His nation was the most Laissiez-Faire capitalist nation imaginable. With that much spending on defense, they would be safe to operate
>>
>>174221146
Some of us did go to school, senpai.
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fixed mine up a bit
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>>174221226
And yet you still post on /gsg/.
>>
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>>174221226
Woah I'm so impressed dude. Are you like Ray Sagan?
>>
>>174221226
wow ur so smart
>>
>>174221309
>33% deficit

pls dont go into politics or accounting anon
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>>174221073
>>174221226
>>
>>174221142
>>
>going to """school"""
>>
This general is so unhelpful and misanthropic. I missed this atmosphere.
>>
>>174221397
Read
>>174201609
>>174201720
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>>174221584
>central bank
end yourself
>>
save us, randy
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>>174221623
my name ain't randy
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>>174221705
it is now
>>
don't you understand?
randy the phoneticization of r&i is also a name
>>
This shit is why we need R&I
Without him to make a new thread /gsg/ is fucking helpless
>>
>>174221315
Never said I was Stephen Hawking over here.
>>
>>174221959
what kind of scientist are you
>>
>>174221993
Biologist.
>>
>>174221993
A retarded one, most likely
>>
>>174221993
he researches new ways to spread the poz
>>
>>174221623
randy sandy?
>>
>>174221993
gender scientist
>>
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r8 my NatSoc Paradise.
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>>174222193
>universal basic income
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Italy
C U C K E D
U C K E D C
C K E D C U
K E D C U C
E D C U C K
D C U C K E
>>
In HoI4, what the fuck is the point of justifying on more than 1 province? At the end of the war you can take everything, so all it appears to do is cost more and take longer.
>>
>>174222276
You might have a point. Instead of bettering themselves you might end up with a society of NEETs. What I'm REALLY going for is government helps you find a job and keeps you employed but doesn't give you free shit if you're lazy, but there doesn't seem to be that kind of option.
>>
>>174222342
>Hoi4
might as well kill yourself
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN?????
>>
new thread:
>>174222451
>>
>>174220519
Yes. I love being imprisoned for thinking for myself and then getting executed for not being religious.
>>
last
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>>174221620
nou
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>>174224080
I believe it is.
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