/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

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just asked this in the last thread, but is the Planetary Diversity mod good to play with?

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>2 Gaia worlds next to my spawn, 15 and 22 size
>Haven't even met anyone else yet
I can't shake the feeling that if I touch either of these I'm going to get an angry call from my local rabi

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Has anyone actually seen this in the game?
I feel like I've seen every other building but this one...

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Oh goodie, my first aliens <3

And they hate me to booth ..
Good thing they are dicklets otherwise i would be worried.

>>174138224
you only need to worry about that if the world has the Holy World planet modifier, which it'll only do if its on the border of a F. Spiritualist fallen empire. otherwise you're golden

Anonymous 04/16/17(Sun)12:27:05 No.174138275 ▶
>>174138019 #
But what is the point to spout your garbage here and to answer a gameplay problem?
This is irrelevant and what makes /pol/acks insuferable, not the fact of being triggered by your redpills

>>174138114
I didn't say anything about fascists, don't lump everyone tired of you shoeshorning your politics everywhere, you SJW.

are there any mods that allow you to resettle pops if you're an egalitarian? Like instead of forced resettlement it would be "migration benefits" or something?

>>174138048
Too early.

>>174138248
Yes.
Also seen an old factory that produced +3 energy and +3 mineral.

>>174138326
What happens when you colonize it anyway?

A war to humilate you?

>>174138407
"Land of Opportunity" edict gives a planet +100% migrant attraction.

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>Strictly against defiling ones natural body with cybernetics
>Is literally a robot
>Strictly against genetical modification of a robot species
>Is literally a robot
>Strictly against building robots
>Is literally a fucking robot

They're all fucking robots.

Don't they know they're robots?

They can't be oblivious to that, can they?

Should someone tell them?

Also robots are running a Human Primacy Movement. They insist that their robot species is kept genetically pure

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>made a fleet so big that fleet window refuses to show up
>cant split, cant upgrade, cant do shit
>only solution is probably to lose some of those ships for the fleet window to appear again

Bravo Paradox, fucking bravo bravissimo..

>>174138647
>using mods

>>174138647
>Bravo Paradox, fucking bravo bravissimo..
lol

>>174138530
yes. and they remove you from that world, if memory serve.

>>174138530
if you colonize a Holy World the fallen empire will ask you to leave it and if you refuse they will go to war to purge the world. They're usually called something like Prophet's Retreat

>>174138548
but what if I want to move specific pops?

Im building my destoyers with a large weapon and point defense is that dumb?

>>174138791
>Im building my destoyers with a large weapon and point defense is that dumb?
No it's the only way they are useful since they hang back a lot more than Cruiser & Corvettes do.

Late game weapon for me on a destroyer is almost always a Kinetic Battery and a Medium Flak.

>>174138676
Try making a decent game next time Johan, maybe i wont have to mod it to be playable.

>>174138697
Dont forget that there are no key shortcuts to do anything ..
In space 4x in 2017 you have to do everything by mouse ... Im amazed no one rages about it.

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> tfw playing a game yesterday
> conquering empires left and right
> only a few left
> A federation with 4 of the last fully untouched empires in it
> two are equal/slightly inferior
> o-okay
> war declared
> all pile on me from all sides
> LITERALLY hit and run. I pop into a system, the enemy fleet instantly turns around and runs
> a few fleets appear from some awkward angle. Reaching it meant going AROUND my entire border for whatever fucking reason
> other fleets ravaging my empire on the other side
> split fleet
> now a mix of 2 empires always pile on on my smaller fleets
> very slowly get destroyed
> lose

I still don't understand what happened. The AI in stellaris jumps between the general shit for these types of games, to mediocore, but during that last push it felt like the AI just went into absolute HAL9000 mode. Was actually fun to lose, because before that winning was super easy overall.

Time for a new game.

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This is just getting creepy

>>174138947
What mod is that?

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When can I give AI rights when I'm a fanatical materialist?

>>174138843
What about crusiers ive been filling them with m slots with auto cannons with shields and shield recharges

>>174138995
It's not.

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>>174138248
I was just about to colonize a planet with a toy factory!

>>174138995
It's base game, i just had the same happen a few hours ago

Goign with it give you some pretty strong building at the end that increases energy a lot but with a happiness debuff. Pretty sure it's a reference i don't know

>>174139010
what is the meaning of the blue planet option?

>>174139074
But the text is retarded and the options sound stupid. It sounds like the kind of crap you'd see in a Flash game that doesn't take itself seriously.

>>174139093
TOP WRITING PARADOX

>>174139010
Sentient AI

>>174138995
It's not a mod, it's a rare DLC event.

>>174138947

The Worm genuinely loves you.

End of Cycle uses you.

>>174139080
How is it decided which planets have one? At random?

>>174139095

Terraforming.

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>>174139113
They have women writers you know.
Don't be sexist by criticizing their hard work.

>>174139093

Oh, it's far from finished. There are more things waiting further down in the rabbit hole.

WHAT WAS SHALL BE WHAT SHALL BE WAS

>>174139093
It's not the end, it's broken right now. You're supposed to get one more tech, then the Worm comes and turns your home system into a black hole, every planet becomes a habitable tombworld, and you get tomb world preference. Or you can kill the Worm.

>>174138870
V splits fleet, m8...

>>174139093

This is not the end. It's the beginning.

What fucking crisis is this idiot talking about? This FE awakened like a few hundred years ago, asked me to become their vassal, I said no, they said k and they've just sat there doing nothing since then.

This dude's like a loony cat lady who's in a street corner screaming and yelling shit about an upcoming end of the world..

>>174139439
I know you're trolling but I stil rage.

>>174139093

It's a long quest. Many more weird things await you.

>>174139564
>>174139520
Well it's a shame i got my shit pushed in by the psychic dudes.

SHame too, i had the perfect result for the infinity machine, tech through the roof

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YOU CAN'T STOP THE SPIDER!

Was Armageddon stance ever fixed by default or do I still need to mod it?
Is this just one of those things paracucks don't actually want to work properly?

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>>174139661
>Scary spooder

>>174139693
>Armageddon stance ever fixed

nope

can you post the mod you're using if you have one, though?

>>174139693
It looks like they don't want purifiers to work at all.

>>174139159
How do I increase the chance of getting sentient AI and Synthetics?

>>174139531
Oh right.

Still, there are no keys for upgrade, repair etc. My point stands.

>>174139571
oh boy just you wait

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>>174138557
Never believe what a Stellarian says

>>174139825
If he means the Unbidden by that, then those guys have been dead for hundreds of years.

I don't remember seeing any unbidden since I destroyed the portal.

>>174139767
put on a Maniacal or Computer specialist scientist in charge of physics and be materialist. That's basically it. Infinity engine can give it to you wholesale, which is quite nice if you find it early.

>>174139113
Funny you say that because the guy who wrote the horizon events works on fallen london, which focuses on being weird but not taking itself too seriously.
It's also the kind of writing you either love or hate.

>>174139741
Just using the fixed orbital bombardment off steam.
>>174139758
I'm getting the feeling they hate that and robots both on principle.

>>174140015
I hate it. It goes against the rest of the writing who's very straightforward and matter-of-fact.

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Is it possible to start in a location like the really thin area here, or should I stop restarting?

>>174140127
Like I said, love or hate. I won't deny that it's a bit out of place compared to other similar events in the game though.

>>174139917
what the FUCK is that

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>That feel when your scientist gets that perfect anomaly-research traits combo

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Is it bad that despite these things, all I can see is 'physics and society research planet'?

>>174139661
cute on the outside, disgusting on the inside

>>174139364
You have to research an anomaly.

>>174140304

>24 base society and 6 physics research on 4 labs


Pretty decent yeah

>>174140304
The negatives don't mean shit compared to that sexy research output.

>>174140304
is that a fallen empire planet?

>>174138557
Rename him Jontron

>>174140205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veV4EdTb344

The trick to winning the early war is you stack defensive army on your worlds.

The AI doesnt know how to handle a large garrison.

>>174140675

I'd rather spend the minerals and upkeep on actual useful stuff like ships desu

>>174140716
Well the idea is to give you time when you're losing, if you can straight up win then of course spamming ships is better.

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>hive mind
>no faction
>no happiness
>no multi species, no migration
>can't pick half of the ascension perks
>no diplomacy because everybody hates me
It's like playing a dumb down version of the game. I'm kinda diappointed.

>>174139781
There also doesn't seem to be a "next planet" key so you can quickly check your planets.

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> le ebin global warming meme

I keep getting reminded just how much the term "paracucks" fits the company

>>174141282
Yeah, yeah, and coal is a pollution-free energy.
:^)

>>174141282

>the view is confined to the scientific fringe

Whoa, it's like it mght be a

Joke??? Perhaps???

Really activated my anus, anon

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How fucked am I concidering this is early game?

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>>174141337
> man made global warming

Never said it doesn't cause pollution.

>>174141372
Not. You probably lost the scientist but he wont follow.

>>174141139
>no key to upgrade everything on the planet
>no key to build ships
>no key to build buildings
Etc.

Their UI is absolute trash in Stellaris.

>>174141282
Yeah, good goy dont pay attention to that freakish weather last five years, its all a conspiracy !

>>174141354
> "It is unlikely that any race intelligent enough to achieve full industrialization would be stupid enough to accidentally wipe themselves out"
> like I CANT believe we LIKE are causing LIKE LITERALLY GLOBAL WARMING

>>174141447
Can't wait for the global warming "enthusiasts" to go the same way as anti-vaccination and anti-GMO bunch did.

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>>174141390
>americafat digging himself deeper
Still using imperial units and belieing that global warming is a lie?

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Post current maps
also, any1 tried multiplayer yet?

>>174141498

>tfw you will never be this autistic

>>174141447
>Yeah, good goy dont pay attention to that freakish weather last five years, its all a conspiracy !

The Jews are manufacturing massive changes in climate despite already having full global control, for no apparent reason.

>>174141524
Again, never said global warming is a lie. I said MAN MADE global warming is a lie.

>>174141447
>there are people even more retarded then /pol/
How do you not forget to breathe?

>>174141651
>I have no evidence but I'm going to cluelessly deny the consensus theory just cos

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>>174141651

>>174141651
Hu-uh.
Ofc :^)

>>174141447
remember, in the 2000 we will be freezing and there will be no petrol left

-t 1970 science.

Basically, humans do contribute some 200 or so ppm of CO2 but the earth was thriving at 2k. unless you are living in a island in the middle of the ocean, it won't change shit. Desert will get a bit hotter and my canadian ass will continue to freeze

Are space amoeba the muslims of the galaxy?

>>174141906
>don't stone women
>don't try to tell you how to live
>don't fuck goats
>aren't huge hypocrits
Not really. They're more like asocial hippies growing their own weeds.

Any here use the Alpha Mod? Is it worth sinking some time into?

>>174138562
>Arilou
>Spiritualist, Pacifist, Egalitarian
If only there was a trait like fanatic xenophile except for one single other species.

>>174142004

Do you have a working link? The sperg who makes the mod keeps deleting the workshop pages.

>>174140475
Just a random planet. He's using Guilli's Planet Modifiers that adds a shitton of various modifiers you can get on planets.

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post em. What settings do you generally play on?

>>174141989

>roam around the galaxy
>kill non amoeba on sight
>breed like rabbits
>ignore all communication

Seems we're at a disagreement, anon

>>174142030
After some fucking about, I see what you mean. I got it on my Steam overlay though. Can't link to that.

>>174142138
>kill non amoeba on sight
What the fuck? That's new.

>>174142149
Also, the achievements aren't even fucking working so I'm going to mod the fuck out of this to see if we can get it playable.

>>174142081

1000 stars
Elliptical, sometimes 4 arm spirals
16 AI on spiral, 23 on elliptical
25% advanced start, no more than 6
Max FE
1.5x on spiral, 1x on elliptical, 2x on hyperlane only

>advanced neighbours

Fuck this shit though desu

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>All factions are happy
>Materialist pacifist technocrats
>Few years ago put full citizenship for any race in
>Our buddies from day 1 when we started come up with this shit
>they are spiritniggers

what do

>>174141498
>the same way as anti-vaccination and anti-GMO bunch did

having legitimate concerns bullied out of the field by lawyers and propaganda then.

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Purple ships look quite nice

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>>174142317
You know the answer deep down, anon.

How do you make manual mods work in 1.5?

>>174142317
Shrug your shoulders and deal with the consequences of a multi-cultural society free of hate.

>>174138326
Is that true? I feel like I've found holy worlds that weren't near the spiritualist guys

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>>174141536
I'm just peacefully spamming habitats to boost my science to out-science all the others. Boring as fuck tho. Where my diplomatic plays and clandestine acts of espionage and subterfuge at?

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>>174139520
>You're supposed to get one more tech, then the Worm comes and turns your home system into a black hole, every planet becomes a habitable tombworld, and you get tomb world preference.
Sounds like it's genuinely trying to help and doesn't understand that most habitable planets aren't ultra nuclear in our reality.

>>174142503
Nothing wrong with GMO in theory. There is something very wrong with most companies that engage in it however.
The next big plague that slaughters our species will be have monsanto as it's source.

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>periodic meteor showers
>giant mushroom forests
>strong parasites giving -15% habitability

What a shitty planet

>le mean /pol/ go away!
>haha global warming isn't real dude *proceed to have argument

Are people just trolling in these threads or do we genuinely have autistic Iedditors here?

>>174141282
This fucking event should let you flee your homeworld. I hate paradicks.

>>174141831
Actually during the jurassic Canada was a giant swamp full of alligators

>>174138647
Or use the split fleet hotkey like anyone with basic problem solving skills.

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Am I supposed to do something with this system or is something going to happen to this thing at some point? I've had it surveyed and within my borders for the last 200 years or so and it's just kind of there and this stupid thing is taking one spot in my situation log.

>>174142668
>nothing wrong with GMO in theory

other than the fact we don't understand enough about genetics to even have a complete theory of all the things that could go wrong

a gene is not a simple sequence, the DNA can change its shape and the meaning of the gene changes with it. the cascade effects of even a single manipulation are simply unpredictable at this stage

For lore purposes, what's the best star type to build a ringworld or dyson sphere around

>>174142668
Monsanto's sins are economic, mainly, though the real killer isn't their crops, those are harmless, it's the fucking pesticides and the way they engineer their crops to encourage you to fucking drench them in their pesticides.

So if you pick Extremely Adaptable should you colonize the 40% habitable worlds?

>tfw atmospheric manipulation popped up but I needed influence so I didn't pick it
>it didn't pop up again

Fuck you paradox


>>174142582
>the worm is basically that interdimensional tentacle alien from that futurama movie

Is it time to create a race of Benders and kill it off?

>>174142817
>dyson sphere

The biggest and brightest, of course

>ring world

The prettiest, of course

>>174142784
>Anon thinks injecting a gene from potatoes into his cabbage is going to turn him into a ghoul from Fallout.

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>dark shipsets was updated for Banks

>>174142535
please answer

>>174141651
>We can pump literally infinite gas into the atmosphere and it won't do ANYTHING AT ALL EVER NOPE.

How do we fix missiles and to a lesser extent energy weapons?
Using anything but plasma and kinetics is just handicapping yourself.

>>174139192
>rare
>did the whole worm quest chain
>THEN GOT THE QUEST CHAIN IN A DIFFERENT BLACK HOLE AGAIN

>>174142902
Trash girl.

>>174142570
Digging the federation stuff, but yea there could be a bit more internal turmoil like factions breaking off and going independent on some of your planets or federations that require a bit more struggle to stay afloat and perhaps a bit more small-scale space combat other then the stationary pirates and amoebas

>>174142884
nice strawman

Alright I'm already bored with utopia. Any mods to spice things up?

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>>174142930

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>>174142709
>all tile blockers cleared anomaly

Never mind its pretty gud

>>174142884
>mere chemicals in water and food are turning men into numales and trannies but injected genes will do nothing

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>>174142902

>>174142923
Make missiles redirect to other targets if their target gets destroyed.
Make missiles survive if their launch-ship gets destroyed.

But that will require paradox to do something more than change notepad number entries, so it won't happen.

>>174142843
If they ever fix the event.

Fix when

>>174142984
silly bong, handguns are illegal

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What mods do I absolutely need for Stellaris?

>>174142984
>>174143034
Trash girl.

I make lewd of her in MMD.

>>174143004
That's been discredited.

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>>174142930
Your opinion is wrong

>>174143004
>muh chemicals in water O!

Its a failed upbringing motherfucker, not some sinister conspiracy.

>>174143064
PreFTL
Colonizable Home System
Multiple cirisises
Improved megastructures

>>174138175
I know it's pretty late now, but I really enjoy it. It adds a lot of flavor to the universe and it makes the choices that you make early on mean more.

"Holy shit I got a Mangrove world? Out of like, 20 choices? Hot damn."

>>174142859
This anon has EXQUISITE!~ taste, listen to him

>>174143098
>>174143126
>bad goy xenoestrogens don't exist you just suck

>>174142987
>that third planetary modifier

Oh shit my nigga, is that some Alien mod ?
Give me the link motherfucker !

>>174143126
Any place to get these that isn't steam workshop?

>decide to try Supreme Commander
>nice cutscene when a skirmish start
>start building ressources generation and mines
>look for place to start building a factory
>scrool down
>THAT FUCKING ZOOM OUT
>I CAN SEE THE ENTIRE FUCKING MAP
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>I CAN SEE FOREVER

>>174143250
Skymods.

>>174143232
It ain't an Alien mod, just one that adds a shitton of potential modifiers.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=865040033

>>174143275
>how can games in 2017 be so far behind a game from 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-FInhDCSjs

Is there any upside to blobbing?

I just annexed two of my neighbours (6 & 8 planets each).

All its done is double my research length and its devastated my economy because those planets are producing fuck all so the rest of my economy is just supporting them.

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>>174142209
You're probably thinking of Star Grazers. They're the peaceful hippies. Amoebas are cunts!

>>174143287
That's great thanks brah

>>174143334
And also,
>when scrolling, you zoom on your mouse cursor instead of zooming to the middle of the screen
I fucking love it

>>174143408
press end

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>The Worm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeICC5SFpP0

>>174143468
And I can rename my units, and it shows!

>tfw you share a general with people who play without hyperlane only

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>pirates destroy my science ship and kill the most experienced scientist

Repensum est canicula, should have left me alone fags.

This game makes me feel lonely
after we have populated the milky way, what else awaits us but ever expanding dark matter?

How do you prevent players from wanting to stack all their ships into one deathball fleet?

>>174143734
>have a passive scientist
>blame the pirates for his death

>>174143753
teach the AI to play

blobs currently lose to guerillas already

>>174143753
Max fleet size based on admiral skill and ship computer tech level.

>>174143753

Make each fleet have a maximum of ~25%
of your total naval capacity each and make the upkeep cost for going over more drastic than going over total naval capacity

>>174143740
Once we get rid of all the ayyys, you know what's waiting for us?
A good old civil war. Because the only thing we hate more than each others are strangers.

>>174143757
>having evasive scientist in PreFTL mod

No thanks, i dont enjoy wasting 5 years to get to another system just to auto jump out

h-h-how do I download the DLC

>>174143740
>after we have populated the milky way

I don't think you understand what you are saying

>>174138248
> yfw the only sign of your civilization that remains to future explorers is a dragon dildo factory

>>174143826
>>174143827

>max fleet size
>implying people won't just send two fleets to one system

>>174143753
By adding a few things like

>A fucking fleet management system so I can actually keep track of more than one fleet
>Being able to assign each fleet to an AI that can handle a few roles so I don't have to micromanage tiny corvette fleets that are going around destroying enemy troop transports or defending my mining outposts from enemy's single corvette fleets.
>Having the ability to actually design a fleet and reinforce the fleet with a click if they sustain casualties

There's a few.

The fact that I can't fucking keep track of more than one or two fleets, because they require tedious micormanagement is one huge reason why I can't be arsed to do anything but blob.

Playable pirates when?

>>174143740
>after we populate the milky way

Nigga you do realize how many stars, planets and systems there are in MW right ?

>>174141390
>pollution
get outta here you (((shill))) go back to tumblr

>>174142563
It's happened to me with fucking Tomb Worlds half a galaxy away from a Fallen, that poster is full of shit even if he doesn't know it.

how do i get rid of a growing pop if i dont allow them to reproduce?

>>174144258
Actually all tomb worlds will anger a spiritualist fallen, because they consider it desecration, most gaia worlds are fine, you absolute retard.

>>174144286

Let them reproduce then eat them, duh

>>174144258
Holy Worlds are gaia worlds close to the FE's borders and colonizing those will piss them off. Other gaia worlds are fine.

Tomb Worlds on the other hand will piss them off regardless of how far away you are. Horizon Signal + a Spiritualist FE is not a fun combo to say the least.

>>174144334
...

>play a Hive Mind race
>eventually get the biological ascension path
>try to genemod my one, founding insectoid species to specialise in certain production areas
>make a perfect, erudite researcher race
>make a stronk, industrious mining race
>etc.
>make them fast breeders and nomads for cheap resettlement
>tfw it's still too fucking influence-expensive to rearrange the population
How do xenophile democracies manage to get multiple species on one planet? How do slavers move their slaves around to get the best out of them?
It's all got such an obscenely high cost in influence that it just isn't practical in any way.

Tell me there's a mod out there that reduces all resettlement costs to 10, or 0.

Do space amoebas jump into colonised systems?

>>174144258
What happens if you just terraform a tomb world to make it habitable? Do they still whine about it?

I don't even know why there's even a tomb world habitablity research when you'll usually get terraforming before that and can just clean up those worlds.

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Am I right in thinking the best place to colonize is the 1 energy tile near the top right? Boosts 3 mineral tiles and 1 blank tile.

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gonna try out a hive mind, got tired of space nazbols after i wiped out the two fallen empires

Can someone provide me a MEGA link to NSC mod 5.0 files? Skymods only has 4.0.

>>174144719
Put it on the one with the little purple icon. Definitely the best place to put it, yessir.

>>174144856

I'm stupid enough to mix up right and left, but not that stupid, anon! Not falling for that meme again

>>174143342
The planets will make resources after you fix the unrest.

>>174144695
Tomb world tile blockers provide adjacency bonuses to research, colonizing one with synths is a cheap way to get a good research boost.

also the concept of colonizing a planet suffering a nuclear winter to study and explore the ruined cities of a race that destroyed themselves is pretty fucking cool.

why dont they put in tile purging again but with negative happiness for the same race or something?

seriously, i fucking hate taking over a planet but it's full to the max with slaves and manually migrating is expensive as hell

>>174144608
yeah

FUCK OFF /POL/

>>174145231
/civ4x/ is a /pol/ vassal

>>174145012
>the concept of colonizing a planet suffering a nuclear winter to study and explore the ruined cities of a race that destroyed themselves is pretty fucking cool
Cultural study sure, but if they fucked themselves over before space age there won't be anything of real value.

>>174144330
>Actually all tomb worlds will anger a spiritualist fallen
It's literally only happened to me in one game, you absolute cocksucker
>because they consider it desecration
As if this is supposed to be obvious from the concept of vaguely defined and poorly implemented space-religion?

>>174143740
Dark Matter only expands and exists on whiteboards.

I like RPing but I also like winning. How do I fast track habitats?

Also any mod that makes super structures not shit

>>174145369
Some fucks claimed they've found the particles.

>>174145331
Comments like this one remind me how many STEMfags must play this shitty game.

I have a migration treaty with a nearby empire, how do I make them migrate to my planets? They have the same preference and they're perfect slaves. Also, how buttblasted will xenophile FE be if I start using slaves?

>>174145231
>refugees welcome tee hee
>GET THE FUCK OF MY INTERNETS /pol/TARDS
<|:^)))))))

>>174145331
There could still be.
Every empire I meet has techs I don't have, after all. Even a prototype laser would still beat my absolute lack of laser tech because I chose mass drivers.

>>174144759
Hivemind was handled lazy as fuck desu. They could've done way more with it, but instead just made it hardmode.

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>terran wasteland system
>it's our solar system
>it's the home base of a fallen empire that isn't human-based

>>174145457
How is it hard?

>5 star scientist Strunsofkrif is nearing the end of his life (age 64), with only around 10-15 years to go
>internal discussion if it would be wise to send one of our greatest scientists go or train someone in the new generation to be up to the task
>Let the scientist go anyway for the final voyage across the stars doing what he loves most: roaming and studying lifeforms as was his proffesion and hobby
>Says farewell to his children as we send him all the way to the far edge of the galaxy to gather the mighty Tassargoid
>after 12 years his voyage is nearly ending with the final 3 species within our borders
>he is working on the final one: the ravenous Zulcor, at the age of 76.
>dies before he could finish it

>>174145337
jesus you're a retard, you've probably never had a spiritualist fallen empire when you bothered to colonise tomb worlds

if your entire vague space religion is based on on a single seed, and it's a fucking TOMB world, duh it's desecration you fucknugget

>>174145606
>no happiness bonusses
>forced into genociding everything so the entire galaxy wants to rape you
>inb4 but also no unhappy debuffs
It's literally impossible to have unhappy pops since utopia.

what are your favorite human portraits?

>>174145435
You'll get a -10 diplomacy debuff if you start using slaves, not enough to piss them off.
Try the + migration chance edict on the world you want them on.

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>Get the abandoned drones event line where the drones come online and give you gifts and shit
>Get a notification that it's a pirate scheme to fatten up the colony and then attack it
>They will attack in two years
>Check out what colony it was again so I can prepare
>Find out it was this one

Well, I guess I'll just uh.. wait for the pirates then.

>>174145773
>playing a game to 2540
do you have autism?

>>174144719
Put it on the empty tile second down from the left.

>>174145773
Jesus Christ dude.
Send me your save game, I want to see how poorly it runs.

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>Fallen empire awakens next to me
>He swallows my rival that was almost the same size as me
>The other two fallen empires that border them don't do anything
>They say they are coming for me after my empire auto-refuses to be a thrall(WTF?)

The whole galaxy hates me, my ships have 70k fleet power. I'm fucked, ain't I?

>>174145879
Prolly runs fine if there aren't many AIs around.

>play civ 6
>use advisor
>mfw it doesnt tell me anything

the amenities system is stupid

>>174145925
>play civ 6
stopped reading

>>174144608
>>174145042
>start game
>IMMEDIATELY AFTER STARTING SPACE AMOEBAS WARP INTO MY HOME SYSTEM AND BLOW UP MY SPACE STATION AND STARSHIPS

Fuck space amoebas

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>scientists go cow tipping with a titanic lifeform while drunk and piss it off
>fuckers occupy my planet
>eat my armies alive when I land them
>fuck it i'll go bombard
>fleet just sits in orbit and lets the fucks regenerate HP

how do i abandon this hellhole to the monsters, i'm done caring

What is a better for an islamic nation?
The Caliphate, the Ummah or I make an Islamic Republic?

>>174145992
Sweden

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>>174145839
w-w-what? When do you stop playing usually? I ended my last game in the year 2900 or something.

>>174145879
It runs just fine. Why would it run poorly?

Someone mentioned an army simulator last thread? What about this : http://imgur.com/gallery/98IH4?

>>174145885
Is it hentai?

>lost frontier station because hyperlane pirates literally jump straight there without going to any of the adjacent systems

Yeah, I'm just gonna edit the save and give my minerals and influence back, thanks. What shitty fucking design.

>>174145992
do you want to be a god fearing shia or an infidel sunni?

How the fuck do you mine on a ringworld?

Why would you mine your own ringworld?

>>174146036
Show us a year 2900 screenshot, Anon.

>>174146036
I've usually conquered the galaxy by 2360 you turtling fuck

>>174146118
CHEATER.

Just roll with it. Or start a new game. Once you start fiddling with saves like that, you'll do it every time you encounter even a minor unforeseen setback.

>>174146132
maybe you just slapped big chunks of rock and soil down leaving minerals that can be mined still

>>174146228
okay mum

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> SCIENCE SHIP GOES TO INVESTIGATE SOMETHING
> sucked into an alternative dimension
> endless void of weird spaceships
> they blink back into our dimension after a second or two
> half of the crew were left behind in the alien dimension

This game is complete nightmare fuel sometimes. I wish there were mods that added more events like these and made them completely weird. Talking about Event Horizon type of shit.

>>174146228

I don't give a shit about that. It's not even a minor inconvenience, it's over 200 minerals and influence like a year into the game. I already destroyed their base yet they somehow jump across 8 systems in one jump. How am I the cheater here? Fuck rolling with something so badly designed.

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>>174146280
>Missing half of the crew is returned to you in an extradimensional ship
>Swear nothing's wrong/changed.

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>>174138947
I think I fucked up the event chain
one of the primitive worlds I was watching started worshiping the coil, so I watched and they all vanished. I haven't gotten any events since.
I hope I didn't fuck it up because this event chain was actually interesting.

>>174146181
>a mere 160 years after developing the first warp drive, Humanity conquers the entire galaxy
I think they need to work on the timescale for Stellaris. You can catch up with ancient aliens in a mere century and surpass them by the end of the next.
It seems to all happen too quickly.

It's like you could start building a dyson sphere, then declare war on every other nation in the galaxy and conquer all of them before the sphere is finished being built.

>>174146372
it's called being aggressive and stealing everyone else's tech rather than developing your own

Can someone tell me where I see how many research points I have stored to make trait modifications and such?

>>174146280
I've only had that event happen in one out of about 20 games.
Events are so rare.

>>174146426
on the species menu if you're talking about gene editing

>>174146119
What is the difference?

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>>174146363
> tfw no stellaris horror mod yet

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>>174146490

No I mean this number.

>>174146365
you need the physics tech to build the pyramid

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>>174146572
This thing?

>>174146569
Anon, that just makes it a special project to research, you don't need to pay all the points at once.
Also hover your physics/society/engineering outputs at the top to see how much is stored.

Two questions about Supreme Commander :
- Is there a Youtube channel with commentated replays? Pertinent comments, not the "lol i hate school also I'm using OBS now" comments,
- What does Forged Alliance Forever change? Is it just a lobby for the only community?

>>174146569
Hardly worth it if that's all you're going to do to them.

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>>174146181
Well, I don't try to take over the galaxy. I'm just going with the flow and doing what I think my empire would be actually doing as a real empire.

>>174146176
This is the latest I could find. Some time after this, my empire fell apart. At first I created vassals from the sectors, I had to disband much of my fleets, got into wars, vassals broke away and then I basically took over my old areas by force again and crushed my age old nemesis(Jhabbanids in the lower right corner) and that's when I quit the game. It was just some years from the year 3000.

Before this screenshot, I lost half of my shit to the Prethoryn. The entire southern portion of my empire is barren of habitable planets and it used to be full of them until the Prethoryn came along.

>>174146132
>How the fuck do you mine on a ringworld?
>Why would you mine your own ringworld?
the habitat mine station says that the minerals are taken from nearby asteroids.

so that.

>>174146631

Always just says 0 for me.

>>174146659

Was just an example to get it to show up.

>>174146665
I wondered that too. Nice to see they made a description for that.

>>174146118
>>i got beaten by the tutorial enemy so i'm cheating

>>174146665
But you grind down every object in the system to make it in the first place. That's what it says in the description.
Unless they're mining the gooey centre of the star. But that seems pretty fucking dangerous.

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>>174146628
no, the pyramid

>>174146660
what sort of empire wouldn't conquer the galaxy

>>174146660
>those fleet names

hhehehe

>tfw I really like wormholes because they used to be the best type of FTL
>since paradox made it so aliens have to close their borders in order to keep you out instead of them being auto-closed Wormhole has ceased to be the best form of FTL

fug

>>174144598
>>play a Hive Mind race
>>eventually get the biological ascension path
>>try to genemod my one, founding insectoid species to specialise in certain production areas
>>make a perfect, erudite researcher race
>>make a stronk, industrious mining race
>>etc.
>>make them fast breeders and nomads for cheap resettlement
>>tfw it's still too fucking influence-expensive to rearrange the population

Why are you trying to resettle your populations after gene modding?

The point of gene-modding is so that the population of every planet as the right traits for the type of planet it is.

You leave your home planet species blank so you can send out generic pops to each new planet THEN you gene-mod them so new pops grow up as the new type. For existing planets you just gene mod the entire 10-25 population to get it over with even though it takes longer.

I wouldn't even bother putting rapid breeders on since it's only a 10% bonus but costs a trait point.

You make every planet a single type planet (Farm, Mine, Energy, Science etc), then gene mod each planet with the right traits. You shouldn't even need to use resettlement.

>>174146660
>empire rise and fall
>epic galactic struggle

Fuck i love those kind of games.

>>174146902
I get bored of fighting wars the longer the game goes on. They feel like a chore because fleet management system sucks shit out of ass so I can't do anything but doomstack and blob the living hell out of everything.

>>174147082
What?

>>174146280
It's either the Shroud or the Unbidden, it's not like the Extradimensional guys in this game are nameless horrors stalking you in the shadows

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>start game
>think to myself "this time, I'm going to play as a non-authoritarian empire"
>click the create empire button
>ends up creating yet another Imperial empire

how do I stop this meme?

>>174147197
True. My wife doesn't need to be extradimensional to always be after me.

>>174147265
Roleplay democratic crusaders. All the war with extra smugness.

>>174147082
wait wormholes let you go into closed borders?
do the rival empires destroy your wormhole portals when closing borders?

>>174147339
You can't build wormhole generators in other empire's borders if they just open up. You need to ask for a wormhole station agreement.

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>>174147265
Become a roleplay fag.

>Event where an asteroid starts heading towards my planet and I have to blow it up
>HAW HAW PUNY ASTEROID NO MATCH FOR MIGHTY GEKKON WORLDS
>Just let it hit

>>174147265
Play a space empire that enforces diversity by sucking up to the better and stronger empires and destroying them that way.

>>174146813
I haven't even seen that...

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I spend the last 30 years fighting these awakened fuckers and now the unbidden appears? I thought Awakened empires were a end crisis already...

Well, gg. This will be their finest hour

>make space chinks
>give them wasteful

It's good to have an idea in mind when slapping together a race

>>174147168
The advantages wormholes used to have compared to the other types of FTL are no longer enough to make them the absolute best FTL

>>174144598
>How do slavers move their slaves around to get the best out of them?

I never move my slaves around.

A slave species can still colonise new planets on their own. They can still create defensive armies. You just need to setup their species rights to do it.

Use slaves effectively by making single purpose planets (which are the best thing to do regardless of your ethics, because you can use edicts more effectively), and not making slave planets with science or unity.

My current game I'm using slaves. My two main slave races were different planet types to me, so I would use either my own race, the arctic slave race, or the desert slave race depending on the planet type.

The slave races were all set to battle thralls because this is the best combination of mineral & energy production and I didn't have enough main race planets to use for energy. The other types are all worse for energy production. It also gives them better army stats.

If you had same type as your slaves you would use your own race for energy & science & unity then a slave race set to Chattel Slavery for Mine & Farm planets.

Every energy planet gets thrifty modded in.

Mine planets get Industrious and Strong/V Strong depending on trait points (mine were already strong). I also use one of these planets as an army planet, as I conquered the slave race first and their home planet had a military academy.

My home race was already intelligence and had engineer bonuses so I don't really need to modify them.

>>174147339
No, originally because of the range of wormholes it was easy to build wormholes on the other side of dumb alien fags and just hop over them. Now that borders are open until closed instead of closed until open wormholes are much less useful compared to the FTL types that don't require a building to use their FTL.

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>>174147265
>the only non-Militarist empire that I created was a fucking hivemind

>>174140170

You could always try a spiral galaxy instead?

> Copying from the ded thread
The Kzer-Za are driven mad by a ravenous Xenophobia. It literally drives their entire culture and everything they do. In fact the Kohr-Ah are also fanatic Xenophobes. The Urquan are an ancient species and their history is one of falling from grace. Both sub species would both fit as fallen empires with a single fanatic xenophobe trait.

The Ur-quan ritual doctrinal conflict is basically a slant on the "War in heaven" front. The Kzer-Za want to trap all species on their homeworld so they will never hurt UrQuan ever again. The Khor-Ah want to turn all other species into dust so they will never hurt UrQuan ever again.

The former have a severe weakness in military power so they compromise by allowing other species to join them as "battle thralls" I.E. vassal states. All who refuse get shunted to their homeworld and shielded so they won't rebel against the "good guys" in the doctrinal conflict. Fewer species deal with the Kzer-Za because no one ever lives to tell about them.

>>174147703
How can you play a militarist empire in utopia? If you arent at war for a single month, half your society becomes pacifist.

Shit is dumb as hell

>>174144598
>How do xenophile democracies manage to get multiple species on one planet

There's a tech/tradition that decreases by half the cost of moving them. When you're a democracy, you have more influence than you'll ever use.

>>174147265
That's because it's the superior form of government.

Democratic doesn't work from a gameplay point-of-view because YOU, the player, are one person controlling the entire empire.
If it were democracy then you should have to deal with a couple of AIs trying to control the same empire as you.

>>174147779
I think it's a spiral galaxy look at the nebula arms or whatever you call it

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>>174147779
It was a spiral

Anyway, is there ever any point in wasting social research on these guys?

>>174147954
>If it were democracy then you should have to deal with a couple of AIs trying to control the same empire as you.

The player always plays as the "National Spirit" in these games, not the leader.

>>174147852
Probably best to pick a weak empire, box them in and then just go to war with them and set very, very high warscore goals. Then just step in once and smash their fleet.
You can them step back and just have your 2nd fleet keep an eye on their systems. Don't invade or anything. Let them build up tiny little corvette fleets and watch as they smash against your fleet time and time again.
It'd take decades for the warscore to make them surrender, unconditionally.

This is all purely theoretical.

Somehow my planet got magnetic disruption and magnetic miracle?
so now the magnet field around the planet is causing my computers to malfunction but at the same time also making them better...

>>174147852
Spiritualist and suppression

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> tfw find a planet with +50% physics, 25% society and energy outputs
> it belongs to a primitive bronze age horse people
> perfect habitability for me

>16 AI
>huge galaxy
>set starting to random instead of clusters
>some cunt starts right next to me

Why the flying fuck isn't there a "don't have them start near me" option? Why the fuck is this game so shallow in terms of options? Oh right because then they can't sell "new features" in DLC which should have been in game at the start.

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>>174147457
>let it hit because our world will kick the thing's ass

>>174147457
If reincarnation was a thing I'd definitely choose to become a Gekkon desu

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I almost feel sorry for the Compact fags.

First they got buttfucked by me, got humiliated and lost one of their planets liberated by me and made into my vassal and 5 years later this shit happens...

I wonder what Compact even did to piss the drows so much since they arent even close to them..

>>174147457
>HAW HAW PUNY ASTEROID NO MATCH FOR MIGHTY GEKKON WORLDS
>Just let it hit
Does the psionic ascension path change the meteor event?

If you go transcendent then surely the entire population of the planet could get together and telekinetically push the asteroid away.
Not enough power to smash an entire invading fleet but definitely enough power to give an asteroid a very strong push towards the sun.

>>174147457
What would the Gekkon do when they encountered the worm?

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>>174147149
My first game of Stellaris was amazing like that.

I was in a peaceful part of the galaxy so I had barely any fleets. My neighbors were basically just one FE and a bunch of empires that I was in good terms with.

The Prethoryn appeared right next to me suddenly. I managed to defeat one Prethoryn fleet with heavy losses to my own shitty and hastily assembled low-tech space boat clusterfuck.

Then my bros backstabbed me and attacked me when I was at my weakest, though they got fucked by the Prethoryn when they entered my space.

I was scrambling to get anything to get me tech faster because I had shit for weapons technology. I researched the dangerous AI tech. The FE got riled up about it and attacked me. I lost my only fleet,which was defending the capital.

Prethoryn took out the capital and everything in the system after the FE left. I was defenceless so I lost most of my shit.

Pic related. That's my last space port and those planets are all I had left at the lowest point. I managed to work out a fleet of battleships with that.

Prethoryn were ultimately beaten back from my territory. I didnt chase them to my neighbour's territory. I had like, 7 out of the 20+ planets after reclaiming the lost territory.

When I got my decimated homeworld back, I went full military mode and did everything I could to get the tech and fleets to get back at the FE and my backstabbing neighbour.

Got back on my feet, surpassed my former bro, the backstabbing neighbour in everything and decimated them and finally, I got all my fleets together and turned my gaze towards the FE that caused the fall of my homeworld. I formed one massive fleet called Fury of Mother Earth and set it out to the FE's system. Made sure the Fallen Empire stays Fallen and forcibly relocated them out of the ringworld to the shittiest planets I could conjure and moved my own people to their ringworlds.

After the FE fell, it was 2700 and I quit.

>>174148452
They viewd it as a challenge from a cosmic horror

>>174148319
>I don't understand what random means the post

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this event is a godsend and a pain in the ass at times. At least it spawned at the start of the game and not 7 years in or something for once

>>174148439
if you can push an asteroid large enough to cause damage you can push a whole fleet

>>174148502
Stories of failure (even though you won in the end) are more interesting than stories of constant glorious victory. Nice read.

>>174148641
Fleets are made up of many ships. And they have engines that could resist the push and course correct.

>>174148698
And you dont think a fucking asteroid traveling a gorillion miles per second can compete with that?

>>174148735
Most asteroids aren't faster than 500 km/s Anon..

>>174148562
>I can't read: the post

I picked random because the only other option is "clusters" which has a 100% chance of having cunts near me, whereas random has a 50% chance. I'm annoyed because there isn't a third option with a 0% chance so I can be alone for the first 40 or so years.

>>174148735
Honestly space is so huge that a gentle fart even one sector away is enough to turn a direct hit into a near miss.

>>174148502
>all those subspace snare stations
What if each station forced an invading fleet to split? If you had two, then an enemy fleet would be split in half and each half goes to a separate station.
If you have EIGHT, like lovely anon, then that fleet would be divided into many, manageable, bite-sized chunks.

Would definitely add an extra layer to strategy. And force some scouting.

>>174148735
http://www.brighthub.com/science/space/articles/64710.aspx

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>2nd drink worlds finished

>meanwhile in the galaxy

>unbidden spawned ~20 years ago between two fallen empires and a big empire
>killed off a FE, killed off most of the normie empire and awakened the other FE (Rixi Enforcers)
>don't intervene apart from pushing back the occasional unbidden force that tries to feed on one of my systems
>unbidden and the awakened empire are in a stalemate: either the unbidden offensive gets broken at the AE's core ring world in crossfire of all the stations, space ports or the AE gets raped whenever it tries to destroy one of the portals
>currently in a federation with the AE because if I leave, the neighboring federation will declare war and it means rebuilding all the mining stations in the border regions

It's a sticky situation, but out of my hands. Think I'll build a third drink worlds.

>>174138248
yes, got a industrial one on the 2nd world I colonized, 12 minerals on 1 tile. Sad ppl ragequit after that. Would have been an amazing start.

>>174148735
All it needs is a nudge. They don't travel under their own power. Get newtonian on its ass.

I hope I've got that right. Newtonian something is the one where an object will continue its momentum or velocity unless an outside force acts against it, right?

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>tfw

>>174148883
>>currently in a federation with the AE
That's a thing?

>creating empire
>get really creative and inventive and name your empire the "terran federation"
>aliens make a federation
>invite your federation into their federation
But I wanted to be the federation.

>>174149165
Rename it terran federation

>>174140943
its the most op thing in MP

>>174149007
Xenophile and Materialist FEs can awaken into guardians where they try to form a federation with everyone.

>>174148825
The reason for the large amount of snares is that when a prethoryn fleet jumps in, they instantly destroy the snare that caught them, and if they are followed by another fleet, they will end up warping in a different snare, so if I am engaged with the first fleet, hopefully it will take longer for the other to join in. I never got to test if that actually works because the Prethoryn ignored this system.

>>174149231
This. Diplomacy means nothing against humans because they all know you're a murderhobo empire.

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:DDD

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How do I get better at Stellaris anons? I've played almost 200 hours but I frequently lurk this general and you guys are far better than I am.

I have a couple of specific questions:

In the early game, is it better to 'forward settle' or settle as close to you as possible?

Again in the early game, is it better to claim territory by colonising or by building frontier outposts. In the same vein, is it better to have as many planets as possible as soon as possible, or to go 'tall'?

What do you guys do to prioritise science (again, particularly in the early game) whilst also balancing the needs for energy/mineral production and fleet building?

Probably quite a general question, but how do you prioritise available researchable techs? e.g. always lowest cost, always military techs etc.

Fleet composition. What do you guys go for? At the moment I tend to have two types of each class of ship, one for 'heavy hitting' and one for either point defense, holding fighters or hitting smaller ships. This is mainly because I have a semi-autistic naming convention for my fleets though.

Possibly in the same vein as the fleet composition question, but what weapons do you guys use? I tend to try and have a mix so that each ship has something like Kinetic, Plasma and Missiles (avoiding too much specialisation). Is it better to specialise ships to have all Plasma, all Kinetics etc.?

Main 4X games I play are Civ V or Endless Space, so I may even be asking the wrong questions. I do have Utopia and Leviathans DLC.