/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

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stupid spider you are not a strategy game

>>174163115
SOON : http://www.eotugame.com/

Just changed the Utopia main theme to some random track from the game. Why is the Utopia theme so fucking shit?

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Peace in our time

>>174163154
But those are ants. Not spiders.

And spiders = arachnids, not insects

>>174163330
Same shit

>>174163330
But spiders are bound to be enemies in that game. Or do I need to talk about Swarm Assault, Simant, Warlord Battlecry, and all the strategy games that feature spiders?

I'm arachnophobe and you're forcing me to remember games that I tried to forget.

I can't get factions and pops to rebel, what the fuck do I need to do to piss these people off? I want my sectors to break off so I can vassalize then instead.

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>>174163454
OP has made spiders the enemy

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>>174163631
Now you're making me wish for a good colony game.

Can I just mod Age of Empires 2 and pretend I'm playing with spiders fighting ants?

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It's not like I want you to give me rights, baka.

>>174163631
Spiders are for giving many high-fives, not squishing!

>>174163737
So watching a FaF replay is not the same as watching a FA replay, okay.
Got a direct link to that faggot's Youtube channel? I suppose googling Gyle won't yield good results.

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What the fuck just happened? I annexed the Vokkon system a good few years back and suddenly it's not mine anymore, they didn't rebel or anything.
The only pops on the planet are droids, even though it had the pops of the xenos I conquered...? Did I get memed?

>sots is amazing
>sots2 is god awful
>tfw there will never be a sots3 they redeem themselves with

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That fleet on the right is going to be fucked because I have three fucking fleets tied down by a fucking mining outpost. Good fucking job, Paradox. I remember in the history lessons how a German panzer division sent to help out some pinned down infantry was critically delayed because they had to shoot a fucking barn because it existed and they saw it. Despite multiple orders by Hitler himself, the tanks kept going for the barn instead of following orders because that fucking barn had to be destroyed no matter the cost. After the barn had been destroyed the Germans lost an entire division, but good god did that grain and two cows blow the fuck up.

What weapons, what drive?

>form a federation with a fallen empire to beat down the unbidden
oh OK

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goddamn, only 50 years in the game and it's already chugging like its a 150 year old game. im trying the .25x habitable world setup but it hasnt improved performance.

>>174164190
I'm kind of annoyed by that too, it seems like my fleets wind up getting dragged into combat at like 200 range and have to slow boat for a week until they get a firing solution. Why can't I get a hotdrop on this shit so it can die instantly? I almost prefer military stations late game just because it lets me get to my target faster.

>>174164310
Full Kinetic and Hangars with a few Plasma,
a bunch of corvettes with afterburners and stormfire autocannons tear assholes apart.
Only use Warp because hyperlanes are god awful and Wormhole is too fucking slow.

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>21 tile exceptional mineral planet with 85% hab

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>>174164604
F.

>>174164541

who cares nigga, give us updates on PEACE WARS

>>174164310
Mix of plasma and kinetic.
Wormholes.

>>174164670
>Warp your fleet to an enemy system with their fleet.
>Warp wind-down of 10-50 days letting your enemy run away while your ships can't even move.
>Wormhole there.
>Takes ~45 days to warp a big fleet (if it's in the wormhole station system) to the enemy system, they can move and engage instantly, the enemy doesn't have the time to run away.

Does anyone else think territory should be redone in Stellaris? At least from the perspective of hyper lanes, it's frustrating when you have to waste influence dropping an outpost just to secure a system that has nothing worthwhile in it. Either that, or border territories should overlap a bit or territory should have a no mans land between them.

>>174164604
HERO

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>>174165012
Yes Anon. You are.

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>>174164891
ignore the pic title
The pink cats are winning, the blue elves have less fleet cap than me or the cats so it looks like their time is up. might be a good time for me to opportunistically take a system from them.

Playing as a Manic science and base xenophobe dude, what ascension should i go? Do going synth mess with xenophobe? Does genetic engineering?

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>>174164923
That was the idea, but the AI was actually warping away while I was waiting for the wormhole to complete, and if I change the wormhole destination before it's complete it resets the timer and they just do it again. It's making this playthrough infuriating.

>>174165184
I still have no idea who that girl is but I see her quite a lot.

>>174165143

You totally should, show them how a real civ wages war. Also, if they are pacifist, it's a liberation war, so a new faction will spawn on the ceded planets. You may want to wait til the end of the war and attack the loser. That way, you won't have to deal with the winner and their new ally, the liberated faction.

>>174165258
She's Dr. Pepper's Japanese mascot.

>>174165258
Kurisu from Steins;gate, the vn is good, the anime is shit.

>both the game and the wiki claim that government capital buildings can generate influence
>both claim the empire-capital complex will produce influence
>it actually costs influence
>doesn't produce any at all
I need to find the influence value with cheat engine. I can't be bothered with it when there's no way to reliably produce it, outside of being a democracy or being a warmonger.

>>174162763
Did you he have a massive amount of corvettes while you had mostly battleships?

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>>174165313
>>174165324
Wait, she's the orignal version of that bitch who can't even kick a fucking ball straight?

>>174165334
They used to produce influence, they now produce unity.

>>174165334
Just open the console.
The empire capital complex (ie highest level on capital only) used to produce 1 influence, but it's just unity now, and all of them produce unity.
And the wiki doesn't say anything about them producing influence.

>>174165334
Rivalries and keeping factions happy, factions are piss easy to please.

Can you use shortcuts to mod folders? My C drive is already low on space and I want to add some music mods.

No, it's early, so we both have corvs. Still made him my bitch though because the AI is so dumb I distracted him with a single corv while I spent time rebuilding my fleet.

>>174165843
>>174165371

>>174165740
Shit yes, some factions are so easy to please. Free +1 influence a month.

Though really all this doesn't address the main problem.
Democracies can generate 250 influence every 10 years rather easily and don't use any.
Authoritarian regimes don't, and they likely need it to resettle pops around.

>>174165183
You can go synthetic if you want to manuially build new pops.

If you go genetic, your species will be worse than synths, but you won’t have to build them nanually.

>Play hive mind
>find 25 tile gaia planet which is not a holy world

Why is this game so mean.

>>174164310
>What weapons
Lasers or kinetic.
>what drive
Hyperdrive is the fastest but hyperlanes can fuck you.
Warp is slow but has no other major drawback except the unlikely event the cooldown gets your fleet destroyed.
Wormhole is just fun.

>>174163017
>Start my first real Stellaris game (had dipped my toes a bit but this was the first real playthrough)
>Year 2300ish
>Everything is going peachy, early-on got invited into a federation of similar-minded people, we already almost control 60%
>My fleet is probably only a match to Fallen Empires right now, at around 60k stronk
>I have the most territory out of any other individual empire in the game
>My research is through the roof compared to everyone else
>Even found a world which terraformed into Gaia with an event

>However I have a Federation empire locked inside my borders, but they won't even agree to get vassalized

Should I just leave the Federation and go nuclear on my old buddies? Vassalize them? Anything?

I'm getting the urge to do it to make things interesting since it's been such a smooth ride until now.

Should I? We've been such good buds though...

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>take all diplomacy traditions
>no one wants to join my federation

if you play using any sort of diplomacy, you're a cuck, and shouldn't post here.

>>174166391
>year 2300ish
Just research the jump drive. That'll make things more interesting.

>>174166732
I haven't gotten the option to

>>174166726
>you're a cuck
Anon we understand you're insecure about your masculinity but what does that have to do with anything?

>>174166726
>t. Fanatic Militarist Xenophobe Authoritarian (and also probably Spiritualist)

>>174166726
ebin purgers shouldn't post here

>>174167094
t. 6 ethic point civ

How in the fuck do alpine pref pops make their way to the only savanna world in my empire when there's a perfectly serviceable empty ringworld two systems over?

>prethoryn cities are just recolored fungoid
>ai rebel cities are just recolored reptilian

Here I was expecting something from Paracox.

I love mastery of nature so fucking much

>>174167405
I mean synth ascendancy was a pain because nobabies but now I have to juggle seven (subs)pecies and re-sculpt them every other year because they always migrate against their habitability prefs.
Free movement was a mistake.

>>174167405
Kek, I had alpine pops in my empire but they weren't my primary pop, they were tropical. I'd colonize a tropical world for my primary pops and the alpine shitheads would migrate to it en masse. Happened more than once.

>>174167405
>>174167685
>allowing free xeno migration
>allowing xenos at all into your empire

Yopu are the one to blame, you dont have to kill them, just dont let them in.

>>174167695
what happens to then? capped happiness by their habilitaty number?

>>174167950
>>174167695

>Be Desert Master Race
>Get absorbed into some shitty arctic fox's empire
>Decide it'd be a right laugh to migrate to all of their arctic worlds
>After arriving there, am immediately unhappy and am rioting in the streets
>Planet goes on full riot mode
>End up getting put on an undesirable list and purged

Such is life of the nomadic

>Stellaris is another game where war is just death stacks

Paradox should look to King of Dragon Pass for games like Stellaris and CK2 when it comes to these things and let generals have a 'heroic moment' during wars where you can let them risk their lives for the chance at an odd outcome.

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>50 years since unbidden appeared
>they've only managed six (6) anchors

Step it up you bastards, the whole galaxy is up for grabs

I just got the unbidden as my crisis. It was very underwhelming, I thought it was going long since it spawned at the exact opposite end of the Galaxy.

Are the other two any more difficult? I basically dropped my steaming hot load of 240k fleet power on their portal and called it a day, though they did nom a few planets before I got there.

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>egalitarian + fan. xenophobe mega-corporation
>can process alien species into food but can't enslave them

>>174163017
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>>174168645
They really dropped the ball on the egalitarian-xenophobe divide. Pre-utopia, they handled it pretty well with equality for your species but not for others, now the Democratic Party gets pissed if you don't embrace xenophile as well.

>>174168915
Hey, last thread had SEVEN (embed) about Civ VI's district cheat sheet.

>>174166348
Not that I know of.

>>174167714
There are different kinds of hyperlanes in Endless Space.

>>174168645
Killing someone just because is tyrannical.
Killing someone to feed the masses is generous.

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WHERE DID EVERYTHING GO WRONG?!

>>174168645
>Be egalitarian xenophobe
>Partake in the slave trade out of africa and make mad dash
>Egalitarian portion of my nation loses its shit and we have a huge ass civil war- the bloodiest war in our entire history

Wow, really Paradox?

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>>174169030
Holy fucking shit

It's funny that OP fixed that one but not the others.

>>174169203
Best lube up mate. You're fuckin done

>>174169203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

Anyone have any tips on how to start playing Distant Worlds

Is just researching Jump Drives able to summon the Unbidden or do I need to actually use them?

>>174169203
>Nozomi

>>174169203
It went wrong when you played as the fucking U.N.

>>174169270
I fixed the most glaring one. I missed the others.

>>174169410
First, turn off ALL automatons.
Second, do the tutorial.
Third, save often.
Fourth, understand the game before activating any automaton at all.
Fifth, automaton will update your blueprints but not add new component, so once you unlock a new one, add it. Don't let all your civilians ship go without hyperdrive.

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>>174169203
>2352
>140 mineral income
>61 energy income
>capped energy
>23k fleet size
>that low science
>that fleet cap

>>174169203
>United Nations of Earth
that's when

>>174169479

You need to use them, but that doesn't matter if you're unlucky enough to have a neighbor who uses them anyways

>>174169172
This.

There's a reason why slaughtering cows is fine but killing dolphins is naughty.

>>174169238
That would be more acceptable if the factions weren't so aligned to one specific ethos. They should've done a mix of single ethos factions and dual/triple ethos groups, like how they handle the pacifist-xenophobic group and the normal one.

>play democratic human nation
>never get any authoritarian factions
>watch the news on tv
>authoritarian factions have just overthrown democratic turkey

>>174169637
Can FEs summon them?

>>174169819
No, FE's have a safe version

>>174169637
I've heard the other crisis don't ever appear since the AI always researches it if it shows

>Just by having ayys in your empire that aren't slaves makes the xenophile faction grow retardedly strong.
Fuck you paradicks.

>Me democracy
>Get mining mandate
>Delete and rebuild 4 mines
>It doesn't count

So after the early phase of the game I just have to have a stream of presidents who endlessly fail their mandate because the game is poorly designed?

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>>174164024
I just want them to finish sots2. Proper AI. Polished UI. Multithreading so it can actually be run at reasonable rates.

There's a good game under all that rubble, but I swear to god, you'd need Jack Henry to dig it all out.

>>174169906
I dont see anything wrong with this

>>174169986
Welcome to Paradox.

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Dragons and Kobolds mod.
https://ravencroft.click/stellaris/unofficial-mods/

Password is depraved

>>174169906
Suppress them, then.

>>174169172
You can do every kind of purge type, processing into food was one example. In fact without slavery you're unable to make them permanent livestock.

>>174169018
It definitely doesn't make sense that my xenophobic democracy would care about aliens being slaves.

>>174170195
It does dick.

>>174170251
Better than nothing.

>>174169906
>be at peace for a week
>pacifist faction grows strongest
>hold a door open for one alient
>xenophile factions grows stronges
>give basic citizen ship rights to your own people
>egalitarian faction grows strongest
All the while, the ""evil"" ethics are almost impossible to grow.

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> tfw first playthrough that goes on this long
> have a nice fleet
> see this

Their border is connected to mine.

How fucked am I? Fleet power at 73k + dreadnought

>>174169906
If anything, pops should lose xenophobe by not being around aliens. Make them gain it by having positive or negative reactions with others.

Also, I hate that xenophobe is entirely related to race now, it was better when it could just be you didn't like other empires.

>>174170380
Extremely fucked.

>>174170195
>losing a whole precious point of rare influence to suppress a faction while getting a fraction of a point out of the legal factions

>>174170380
You should start sucking their cock right now. Research deals, a free mineral per month, rival their rivals

>>174170380
Prepare your anus

>>174170452
Corvette w/ torpedo spam should give you an edge. FE's use the shitty PDs instead of flaks so enough torps will clobber them.

>>174170497
What did I do wrong? Besides living near them

>>174170515
So there's basically no recovering otherwise? I have all of my planets pumping out ships, but I don't feel it's doing anything.

>>174170380
Spam them with requests to become part of their dominion. And pray some bug or glitch makes them accept by mistake.

>>174169640
Dude they're a spacefaring civilization. It's not controversial to call them sentients. They're not like dolphins where maybe they're smart and maybe they're not.

This is like if Abraham Lincoln said "you can't keep blacks as slaves anymore but if you want to keep them as livestock and eat them then that's OK."

>>174169906
>something completely logical happens
>FUCKING PARADOX
Pretty much sums up half the posts complaining about something in stellaris.

>>174170596
They're Awakened Empire.
Imagine a stereotypical Japanese, who thinks that the entire world should be his vassal and that everyone else is inferior.

Just give that xenophobic, ambitious freak the USA's arsenal.

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>>174170327
I think it's time to purge.

>>174170375
I've noticed this too. It seems Authoritarian can't be played without slavery and I just don't care for it.

>>174170596
Unless you want to use cheesy strategys you're going to need some friends to bring that empire down. Its better to placate them for the time being. You can eventually beat them in a 1 v 1 but FEs pretty much start with endgame level shenanigans

>>174170754
>Msizi Msibi

What a name

>>174170694
Shill, pls.

>>174170793
>>174170752
>>174170617
>>174170557
There's another such empire nearby. They both declared rivalry on each other

>>174170191
>https://ravencroft.click/stellaris/unofficial-mods/
The link doesn't work.

>>174170930
See
>>174169986

>>174170989

Lmao you're so screwed

>>174169986
Why aren't you conquering new territory?

>>174170989
Sounds like you've got a war in the heavens event brewing

Don't worry, it will sort itself out and you will either get buttfucked, facefucked or make it out with only a small scar

I heard you can edit a file to get the plantoid stuff for free in Stellaris, is that true?

>>174169584
For the next game what should i have by that time?

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>>174169785
>authoritarian factions have just overthrown democratic turkey

The Turkish species is decadent, so this should be expected.

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>>174171035
>>174171095
This just happened. Keep in mind my border is right above that gap.

>>174171228

Prepare your anus. They will give you an event where you MUST pick a side. There's no way around it m8.

How do I get the pirated DLC to work in a legit game? I moved the pirated DLC to the DLC folder, but that doesn't work. What else do I need to add?

>>174166671
>take take federation trait as 3rd tradition
>had 4 people lined up for the federation cock before 2100

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>>174171206
>The authoritarian government gives you good living standards.
>Distance yourself away from it.
Fucking really? So for my people to accept the government should I keep them in fucking squalor?

>>174171295
Or you can tell them both to fuck off and make them both your bitches.

>>174170596
80k is enough to beat an awakened empire.

Either:
a) Wait for them to attack someone else. Declare war and occupy all of their planets without even meeting their fleet.

b) Declare on them and park a single troop transport somewhere in the vicinity of their territory. While Yakety Sax plays in the background, occupy all of their planets without even meeting their fleet.

>>174171401
Extra consumer goods really shouldn't do that.
Maybe give a few percents (+5?) of government ethics attraction if the happiness on its own doesn't do it.

>>174171228
>You 'ere a templa yondah, how could you betray your own people?

>>174171204
at the very, absolute least, 80k fleet
at least 250 all science
200 energy
400 minerals
400-500 fleet cap
and +50 food
your influence is damn good
to hit those numbers, spam habitats
100 influence, 5k minerals, 1800 days to build, master builders slashes those numbers nicely

>>174171206
>pop is enslaved
>lose authoritarian faction points

>pop is enslaved (xeno or native)
>gain authoritarian faction points
Makes no sense. You lose and gain at the same time for the same one thing.

>>174171401
That's liberal bias for you.

>>174171401
>Have good education and ample food.
>Don't need to work as much and have free time.
>That nation over there has elections and picks their leader.
>Why can't we pick our leaders? I want to be able to be the leader of my people.

>>174170375
Authoritarian grows from shit living conditions and having slave pops, Xenophobe grows from purging and having alien slaves, militarist grows from going to war.

The problem isn't that "evil" ethics are hard to grow it's that they require the player to be way more proactive is growing them. Right now trying to make sure a faction for your chosen ethic grows shoehorns you in to a particular play style for the whole game, it completely kills any attempt to roleplay you empire because if your don't play it in the exact way pair o' cocks wants you too you end up with a shit ton of pops with the wrong ethics, it's completely retarded. We're also right back at the old problem that Collectivist had, where Authoritarian is just the "slaver ethic" and has no other use, because in Paradox's twisted thinking every authoritarian regime in history also had fucktons of slaves.

Factions should be divorced from the play style of the player to degree, right now it's way to gamey, and forces you into a play style you might not want. You can still have them effect attraction a bit but right now it's ridiculous. People don't just stop wanting a strong military because they've been at peace for a few years, nor do they sudden stop hating or loving outsiders just because they get new neighbors, there's no constancy right now. Also we need more varied factions, not every pacificist is going to be a capitalist and not every militarist is going to be an imperialist, it's just dumb.

>>174171810
The pop that is actually enslaved loses points while other unenslaved pops gain them

>>174169785
Authoritarians only flourish when things get bad. For Stellaris, most of the time the player is winning or doing ok, so democracy shows up.

The rare times I've had authoritarian factions show up, it was when I was in debt and unrest and my nation was on the verge of collapse. Which makes sense, when things get bad, people are likely to tribalize and oppress each other.

>>174171867
Then they should fuck off to that other empire.

>>174171810
I don't see the problem, free authoritarian citizens like seeing slaves, and slaves don't like to be enslaved.
On the good points though, slaves can't join factions, so if all your egalitarians are enslaved, they won't assemble into a faction.

How the fuck do I fix the framerate grinding to a halt when I select large fleets? Even if I'm not in the system looking at them, selecting them drops fps by ~20-30. Actually looking at them makes it worse.

>plonk down a dozen gene warrior armies onto an awakened embraer planet
>AE completely incapable of removing them from the premises
wow

>>174168548
Don't all their dozens of 70k stacks warp in if you attack an anchor?

>>174172338
yes they do.

>>174171884
We really need more laws and policies.
Like restraining the media or having it state controlled should help your ethics or make your pops authoritarian. Giving economic help to small start-ups should make your pops more egalitarian but anger the industry/economic faction. That kind of thing.

>>174172338
That's why you attack the anchor with a small corvette fleet fitted for max speed and evasion then lead all their ship on a goose chase while you main fleet takes care of the anchor/portal.

>>174172338
Aye. Enjoy

Then again, just popping in and killing the thing can be pretty viable. if you army is strong enough

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>blob peacefully
>get bored

>blob with domination
>get bored

what the fuck is wrong with this game

Name one thing that can't be improved with synths.

>>174167871
As "nice" as having a lovey-dovey hippy-dippy empire where everyone can move wherever they want and xenos are equal it just makes things really annoying and difficult to manage because people will inevitably move onto some shithole planet they're just completely unsuited for. Paradox should really make it so that migratory pops try to move to planets that they have at least 80% habitability for.

>>174172572
Sex

>>174172572
Sex

>>174172562
It's not the game, anon. You've just burned out.
The only thing you should worry you is the extent to which you've burned. Are you merely burned out on Stellaris, or on life itself?

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>>174171952
Do you have a migration treaty with them?

Also I love my new Bships.

>>174172562
In the 23rd century there is only war.

Hope espionage and diplomacy dlc comes soon.

>>174172519
Yeah like I said it's way too gamey right now, they need to layer on some complexity to the government and political system. I'm not asking for Vicky 2 in space though I wouldn't mind if the game went in that direction, but right now every thing is too simplistic and easy to deal with.

>>174172562
the grind is inside of your head, dad

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>tfw you will never be a farmer on some Gaia planet

>>174172014
pls respond

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>absorb empire as a spiritualist
>it has synths
>some of them rebel and try to escape from dismantling
>bomb them into ashes instead

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>>174172665
>>174172717
2b's ass begs to disagree. If you don't want to give that ass a slap, then you're probably a fanatic technophobe.

>>174172661
Its funny how Paracucks made the refugee loving, xenophilic, pacifist playstyle of their game completely unplayable, boring and annoying.

>>174172794
I wonder if you could UI create a whole new button leading to a copy of the policies screen, but with Victoria or HoI inspired policies.

>>174173185
It is totally playable what are you talking about?

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Soo... Should I let him put me into camps or not? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal desu...

>>174173023
>absorb empire as evolutionary masters
>it has synths
>can't build new fleshy bodies for the synths and transfer their minds back into flesh and blood
>can't turn a nation of robomen into cute little piglets

>>174173309
Do it, make friends with them and they will just give you shit on occasion.

>>174173012
complain on paradox forums

>>174173185
It's very much playable. You've got a wider range of diplomatic options. You can get other factions to fight alongside you, or even fight for you if you're that much of a pussy.

>>174173309
You lose one random pop in your empire, it appears on a tile in a Ringworld they have, you get +100 or +200 relations with them, and your other pops have -10 happiness for a year. It's honestly a pretty good deal because they'll have the "Patronizing" attitude afterwards and will randomly give you shit for as long as that lasts.

>>174173309
You get +100 to diplomacy with them which means open borders and sometimes gifts. Plus you're guaranteeing your species survives if you fail.

Man, I find it kinda funny that people on reddit and Paradox forums act like literal Hitlers regarding xenos, with PURGE, KILL XENO SCUM and other derogatory and offensive terms. Even the game itself has shit like forcefully slaving and/or purging shit.

But god forbids if you try to be historical accurate in a game like Hearts of Iron or Victoria and LARP/simulate the atrocities that actually happened and the actions of very fucked up individuals.

>play Germany in HoI3
>gee, I sure can't wait to purge those fucking slav subhumans form Europe
>OY VEY DIS BIGOT SUPREMACIST IS STARTING A SECOND SHOAH

>>174173647
>HoI
Anon that's dumb, c'mon. You know all it'd do in HoI is suck up your resources for nothing but flavor. Shit at worst it'd give your enemies a +1% to morale or something if word got out.

>>174172562
quit playing for a week or two
come back once you're refreshed and it'll be comfy again

why should I play stellaris instead of galciv?

Someone sell me on this game. I'm so on the fence my asshole is decorative at this point.

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>>174173647
there wasn't a first shoah and only untermensch want one

>>174173836
So just because it's a good mechanic it's acceptable, then?

Well, gotta rev up that factory mod for Victoria II that converts albanians to fuel

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>>174171401
>So for my people to accept the government should I keep them in fucking squalor?

Yes, you should.

>>174173836
Also the game could never be released in Germany which is a pretty huge market to cut out, and in addition the backlash would be pretty real if word got into the mainstream media that there was a game where you could reenact the holocaust.

>>174172732
Life itself, but despite that I still managed to dump 1,400 hours into Civ5. I can't get past 500 in Stellaris.

>AI empire's border is close enough to lick the balls of a militant isolationist FE closeby
>my border isn't even close to touching them
>they get all pissy and demand I fuck off

Let's see how tough you are when I eat your entire fucking species.

>>174174041
And with that in, I doubt it'd be a hit in Poland either. So you'd cut off the two biggest markets for strategy games.

>>174173942
Honestly? I find stellaris more fun, I could never get into galciv something about it just rubbed me the wrong way.

>>174174041
>if we ignore it maybe it never happened
>but we still want indemnities

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Hello, can someone suggest to me traits, government and ascension goals for a race of bugs in Stellaris?

I'm getting the ole situation of having too many ideas and knowing one game's a significant investment, so I want to make sure I get one that feels good.

How does Pacifist Fanatic Materialists with Agrarian Idyll sound? Nice ole worker ants trying to make the galaxy bloom.

>>174173942
I like both.

What's the easiest way of making the rest of the galaxy embrace the love of the hive mind?

>>174173361
>>174173546
>>174173571
All I got was a little research bonus.
And in the late game these faggots backstabbed me with their "galaxy peace". I've spent 10 years fighting them instead of unbidden

>>174174235
Sounds like you'll be turtling along the entire game.

>>174174296
They give me a bunch of minerals and energy every few years, or they did at lest til I totally eclipsed them.
They were real bros so I am not invading them, meanwhile the assholes opposite of them that are religious zealots need a kick in the face and once I get the means to reach them with wormholes I am going to give it to them.

>>174174235
It'll get pretty boring, anon. At some point, you'll want to put aside your pacifistic tendencies and seize a chunk of the galaxy.
Mostly because that shitty little empire next door has a load of really nice planets that they're just squandering and you know you could do a lot better with them.

>>174174326

That's the idea! They're autistic little drones that just want to tend to their crops, and see life flourish in the galaxy.

Now that I think about it, maybe they're components of a greater planetary intelligence that uses them to optimize the living standards of their planet.

Makes it sound like I'd be playing a Hivemind, with me as the Homeworld.

>>174174486

Good point, which just means my race would just *have* to conquer theirs and show them the error of their ways.

Sometimes you gotta fix up someone's house, even if you need to break in to do it.

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What's the most optimal way to build a strong navy?

>>174174123
Maybe that's why they don't want you near them

>>174174701

Nothing but Battleships with Giga Cannons and Kinetic Batteries.

>>174174701
All construction ships

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>>174174457
Lucky you.
After removing unbidden is decided to end their misery and attacked them with my 90k doomstack +50k federation fleet.
Turned out they had ~250k fleet all this time.
They steamrolled me while losing ~10 escort ships

>>174174701
Build lots of ships

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Just bought Stellaris and about to start my first game but I do have a quick question:

Considering I want to play aggressive slavers should I go xenophobe/militarist/authoritarian or focus one of them and lose the third?

Also any beginner tips? I don't have that much experience in grand strategy.

>>174174701
Build industry to incredible levels first. Keep your fleet to only smaller sizes, because once you hit 20k fleet power, Fallen Empires awaken.

You should have enough industry to crank out a couple of battleships each year before you get serious about fleet building.

>>174174664
>Sometimes you gotta fix up someone's house, even if you need to break in to do it.
Fuck, I wish someone would do that. The kitchen and the bathroom both need doing.

>>174174968
Don't fall for missiles meme
They are shit

>>174174968
Xenophobe and Authoritarian are a bit redundant. I would replace Xenophobe with either Fanatic Authoritarian or Spiritualist.

>>174174968
Just use the full tutorial it's pretty good.

I started off as W40k Imperium of Man type Empire (but mold, not humans) and although it might have changed since then, it was dogshit for a beginner because everyone else in the galaxy will declare war on you all the time.

>>174174968
If you want to enslave entire alien species, you HAVE to pick some level of Xenophobe. Otherwise, they're stuck at Caste System, meaning you can enslave some but not all of them, same as your empire, and if there are any free xenos anywhere in your empire this increases attraction to Xenophilia in your pops. Basically, if you don't want Xenophilia to sprout up as soon as you conquer your first planet, you have to take Xenophobe.

>>174174995
>20k
what
It's 40k for Normal difficulty, no?

>>174175134
>I started off as W40k Imperium of Man type Empire

kys

>>174174968

Fanatic Xenophobes gain an additional 15% border range over their non fanatic counterparts, which can help a lot.

F-mils gain 10% army strength [shit] and 10% fire rate [real good]

F authoritarians gain fuck all, complete shit. Avoid at all costs.

Don't fall for the hyperlanes only meme.

>>174175212
What does kys mean

How do you even fight Awakened empires?
Their battlecruisers seem to carry 50 attack craft each. If they manage to get to you you're fucked anyway

>>174175282

Point defense cruisers and long range artillery battleships, you can use destroyers with PD instead of cruisers if you're cheap

don't fall for the corvette meme, they will get shredded by strike craft

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>1200 days to upgrade a Fleet

First off, thanks for all the answers, what a great general!

>>174175096
So Ballistics or lasers?

>>174175106
>Xenophobe and Authoritarian are a bit redundant

My plan was using the decadent trait, totally forgot about the caste system

>>174175134
Yeah I will

>>174175239
I will go with this.

>Don't fall for the hyperlanes only meme.

According to the guide of the stellaris wiki I should set the settings to warp only for all players. I think I go with that.

How do you take apart a federation that spans over half the galaxy? You can only take a handful of systems per war and the wars themselves are tedious, because one planet contributes 5% to the war score. Then there's the truce which lasts for 10 years.

>>174175438
How many ships and what the fuck are you upgrading?

>>174175282
First of all, don't take ship/loadout advice from anyone in this thread.

Secondly, read this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/61nolh/ship_equipment_load_out_for_141_15/

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>>174174843
They are +60 to me even after I did this to them.

>>174175541
you stop playing like it's a game of conquest and start thinking about how you can switch individual members to your side

>>174175438

Split the fleet up, you can half the duration for each spaceport you have. Way safer. 4 years is a long time to go without a navy.

>>174175254
it means you should kys

>>174175657
what does kys mean tho

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>>174175532
Ballistic
>warp only
Kys

>>174175532
Lasers are better usually.

>>174174701
Missile only corvettes at half naval capacity (that way you can build up again when they're all gone)

>>174175679
it means _____________kys

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>there are people who aren't playing hyperlanes only in this general RIGHT NOW

>>174175134
You can't do proper justice to an Imperium play.

You would need fanatic purifiers and imperial cult. But that would cost 5 ethics.
Then, on top of that, you need the first level of each ascension path, so you can have a few psychics running around, some cyborgs and have a gene-mod army.

Just not viable without quite a bit of mod fuckery.

>>174175628

I don't think that's an option, most have -1000 opinion of me due to purging and I doubt I want to continue playing this save for 1000 years

>>174175780
that doesnt answer tho

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>>174175567
205 ships, a pretty balanced out fleet comp. I swear I'm just upgrading from Antimatter to Zero Point.
Best part is, this happens 10% in.

>>174175639
Not much choice now.

>>174175106
There is little point to fanatic authoritarian and spiritualist though
Xenophobe gives you a few benefits.

>>174175792
>not being wormhole only

>>174175616
Did they awake?

>>174175679
Sound it out.

>>174175282
Warp in close so that the carriers get destroyed quickly.

>>174175823
consider the above advice then >>174175780

>>174175834
kys

>>174175134
>want to kill everyone
>why is everyone out to get me??

>>174175887
>>174175916
wew my laddies still no answer

>>174175895
If I warp too close I'll lose all the advantage of having long range battleships and will get btfo even faster

>>174175878
Nope, and if they do I will just have to skirmish around with them until I can grab the ascendancy to do extra damage to them because I have seen their planets I am not beating them in a straight out war where they can rebuild.

>>174175254
kill your self

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>>174175967

>>174176053
wat

>>174173943
>you are le sunbhuman if you are ugly

still no answers holy fuck

>>174175282
rush flak cannons if you're having fighter/missile problems

>>174175802
Eh, I wouldn't call the Imperium to be straight out fanatical purifiers. They are FUCKING XENOOOOOS 95% of the time, but the other 5% they'll work with Eldar sometimes.

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>tfw ywn deflower a fanatic xenophobe space elf

>>174175282
On your cruisers put the modules with a mix of large and medium weapon, put at least one flak.
Shield them up well.
Cruisers tend to run in first, so shields will help, and their flakes will annihilate strike crafts.

>>174176093
That's what kys means, kill yourself

>>174176024
You will never have a range advantage against a FE. Their artillery is better than yours, and being far away gives their strike craft time to deploy.

>>174175923
I sort of agree with you but a more realistic diplomacy system would have enemies of your current enemies allying with you out of opportunity and not the peace and tolerance simulator that Stellaris currently is.

Is the only way of dealing with assblasted conquered factions as a democracy is putting them all on welfare to offset the happiness malus?

So, which is the best space grand strategy around for me to ropleplay?

>>174176342
that doesn't make sense it should just be ky because yourself is one word

>>174176482

One letter for each syllable, numbnuts

three syllables.

>>174176423
That or drug them up

>>174176442
>>>/gsg/

>>174176482
kys senpai

>>174176418
There is an explicit relationship bonus to being the enemy of their enemy. Maybe you should learn how to use the diplomacy system.

>>174176423
No propaganda and reduction campaigns my friend.

>>174176552
klysf?

We all know that hyperlane only is a meme, but what about warp only?

>>174176613
Here is full of autism roleplay as in /gsg/.
pls halp

>>174176639

Kay (Kill)
Wy (Your)
Ess (Self)

>>174176639
>kill is two syllables
>self is two syllables

>>174176619
+25? Genociding stuff gets you -1000 with everyone

>Stellaris
>diplomacy system

lmao

>>174176639
"Kill" is one syllable.
"Your" is one syllable.
"Self" is one syllable.

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Is he trying to tell me to backstab my federation?

>>174176334
I've got it, I'm retarded.
I forgot to put flaks on my cruisers.
>>174176369
It also takes more time for their strike craft to reach me

>>174176702
if you're fanatic masochist, sure

>>174176702
I can't stand warp, I hate the cool down time after jumping.
Wormhole is my favorite though.

>>174176639
Those are consonants, not syllables, you mouth breathing faggot.

>>174176743
>>174176770

ki-ll sel-f

4 syllables right there my lads

>>174175628
Is the diplomacy system really deep enough to turn member states against each other?

You'd need a fleshed-out espionage system to do it right. With options to frame nations for shit.

>2 FEs wake up
>they go to war with eachother
>tell them both to fuck off when they come to me for their allegiance
>some other empires make a fed witht he purpose of being neutral/fucking over both the FEs
This is fugging cool

>>174176825
I love wormholes too, but god, you can shut down someone using them with a single corvette and basically winning the war.

>>174176552
It's an acronym
ac·ro·nym
ˈakrəˌnim
noun
an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word (e.g., ASCII, NASA ).

Can we stop being stupid now?
Please?

>>174176897
>facepalm.jpg

>>174176897
you should get a refund from your kindergarten

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what should the new machine gods be called

>>174176897
THOSE AREN'T SYLLABLES YOU TROGLODYTE, THOSE ARE PHONEMES

>>174176934
is the leviathan story pack actually worth it?

>>174176193
Good point. But you still can't do it right without a little bit from each ascension path.

>>174176995
>>174177005
not an argument

>>174177024
Trash

>>174177032
>174177032
>memeing made up words
>on a Sunday

>>174175175
Doubles the chance at 40k, 20k makes it possible.

It's really what makes advanced starts for AIs bad. They're likely to wake up some bad shit even though they themselves are not exceptionally dangerous.

>>174176825
here's how it should be
>wormholes take time to open but travel is instant
>warp takes no time to initiate but travel is slow
>hyperlanes somewhere in the middle

>>174177035
worth what? buying? nigga just pirate that shit
>2017
>buying DLC

>>174176941
Ai is not smart enough to do that, against players I put four stations in important systems at different points at the very edge of the build able area.

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>>174177140
K Y S
Y
S

>>174176934
Oh shit niggas! Third FE just joined in the war.

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>>174172665
>>174172717
>The Fat Controller Laughed. "You are Wrong.".jpg

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>>174177169
Here is a screen shot for reference

>>174177352
Do you have three or four FEs?

>>174177307
so like syllables then
the thing is, you don't make acronyms out of photomemes anyway

>>174177153
What do you think about having advanced starts on, but FEs off? Is that leaving off too much content?

>>174173119
>draw a girl
>call it a robot

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>>174177436
No, not like syllables

>complains about Youtube replays being retarded
>someone suggested Gyle
>try it out
>just wasted three minutes and thirty seconds listening to some faggot whining he's poor and begging for Patron before he finally decides to start the replay

>>174177035
I don't know.
Most content from it came in the patch.
But the enclaves are really helpful to the point of making the game easier, I don't regret getting it I guess.

>>174177532
Ok so what the fuck are you on about pheronemes for?

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>>174177497
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of her ass. All the androids in this game are sexy. Except 9S.

>>174177537
praise gugle, our master

>>174177676
That and guide videos.
It'd take 30 seconds to read what it takes them 3 minutes to poorly articulate and show.

So in my MP game I am more or less stuck on my home world, most the other nearby worlds are too small to be worth colonizing, I am leading the tech race in my region of the galaxy and joined another players federation for protection since my fleet cap is ass, is this going to be viable into the late game?
Should I bite the bullet and just colonize some subpar worlds?

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>>174176934
ALRIGHT THIS HAS FUCKING BACKFIRED. THE ENTIRE GALAXY IS AT WAR RIGHT NOW SEND HELP!
>>174177421
Four

>>174177656
BECAUSE YOU'RE CONFUSING SEVERAL DIFFERENT LINGUISTIC DEFINITIONS YOU GLUE-GUZZLING ASSBURGER

K Y S
Y
S

I know you're baiting, but seriously, kys

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every time i get to around this size i want to restart

>>174177698
weeb trash for untermensch who think with their dicks

>>174177778
It should just be KY tho

>>174177656
Pretending to be retarded now won't save you from your previous fuck up senpai

>>174177761
how small are we talking?

>build 2 frontier stations
>enter defensive pact with one nation
>suddenly no more influence generation
>absolutely fucked if any of my leaders die

>>174177851
the fuck are you on about

>>174177834
At least I'm not impotent ;)

>>174177808
Ah my brother.
I too had a Sildor Star Empire. It was a Sildor Consciousness at first but evolved mid game.

>F.materialist Pacifist
>find neighbor
>"Oh boy, I hope they'll be friendly!"
>F.Xenophobe Spiritualist
>-120 opinion right off the bat
>2 days later; close borders
>1 day later; rival
>-300 opinion
Well, that escalated quickly.

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>the awakened empire gets rekt by the unbidden

>/civ4xg/
>English Classes general

>>174177890
haha just learn how to use the diplomacy system bro haha

>>174177860
12, 15, 14.
The 15 is also full of tile blockers with only 5 usable tiles without them.

Thread is pretty trash since the last Stellaris expansion.

>>174177987
more like

>/civ4xg/
>Evolution of Syllables and Acronyms and the true meaning of "Kill Yourself"

>>174178065
Dude just colonize that shit
12+ is fine.
Also
>not taking Mastery of Nature

>>174177943
you can't impregnate a 2D robot

>>174178090
If I stop thinking and give up on my identity, does that mean I killed my self?

>>174178129
I don't want to impregnate her.

>>174178079
Lots of people pirate the game, come here to see if the game really is as broken and barebones as they are finding it to be, see that it is and then just shitpost. They'll be gone in a week.

can we purge this thread?

kumo-sama, give us your liberating poison

>>174178129
Impotent != infertile
Jesus Christ did you all skip school or what

Everytime I see kyschan respond with his autism to a legit question I'm going to vomit all over the thread. Sorry.

>>174178125
>Wasting a perk slot on mastery of nature.

>>174177762
HOH BOY UNBIDDEN JUST DECIDED TO SHOW UP TOO.