/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

ESSENTIAL STELLARU MODS?
pastebin looks useless as fuck

>>174035025
Note that if you try to study the titans there is a chance they can attack your colony.
The way this works is that they appear as a neutral invasion. You'll need to build like ten assault troops at least to take it back from them, and you can't bombard your own colony in this situation for some reason.

Just advice to hold off on researching the project if it arises until you can deal with that potential consequence.
Having to drop minerals and energy into an army that early on can hurt.

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Nice looking planet, the endless forests mod places tile blockers you can clear from the start, though being Preservationists I'd feel bad

>>174035210

were is this spidy meme from ? i'd read it , doesn't look too weeb

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HAK HAK HAK

Do spiritualists get butthurt over extensive gene-modding? I mean, you're still changing the body the gods gifted you with or some shit like that.

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>>174035394
Alright, i'll keep it in mind. Haven't settled one before. Shitting out another colony now.

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>>174035475
It's "Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?"

A web novel that got adapted in a manga. It's intended to be another deconstruction of the "NEET gamer find himself reincarnated in a RPG world and make everyone his bitch" fad. The writing is decent, the translations are pretty shitty, and the manga makes the spider way too cute as opposed to the disgusting monster she is in the novel.

And I'm still waiting for a good RTS with spiders, and ants, and wasps and shit.

>>174035381

-UI overhaul 1080 p

-any of the mods that allow more than one crisis to happen in one game

-unique system spawns 100% to always be able to find Sanctuary , Sol AND all of the leviathans from the DLC instead of just 3-4 per game

- argue ably essential : more planet cap

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How do I stellaris?

I'm back from not playing it in a long time.
I tried playing it yesterday and i fallen behind in technology and fleet size compared to much smaller empires.
WHAT THE FUCK

Also how do i fleet composition now?
It used to be corvette spam ONLY
Is it the same now or should i just focus on the biggest ships i have?

At this point i have no idea what\s going on and i need some hints

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Neat, a Gaia planet close to our borders. Didn't even see it when I first came through :^)

>gaia with 90 hab

It's weird to look at

>>174035679
Impossible Creatures 2 when?

>>174035887
Waiting for http://www.eotugame.com/ myself.

But Impossible Creatures was kinda fun too. I liked building fortresses with these spiky thorns.

>>174035563

I just got the pop up for this fuckers
you space hacker ! damn you , i wasn't ready

>>174035694
>>-any of the mods that allow more than one crisis to happen in one game
i'm more likely to remove crises--find myself far, far more interested in political climate over some god-shit deleting my opponents

>>174035887
>tfw

definitely never

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uh oh, the fanatic xenophobes are gettin riled up

What's the best way to go full imperial groß without taking fanatic xenophobe for the border range?

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>>174016467
Are you sure it's a .4% chance of happening? I got this event two playthroughs in a row.

>>174036363
You can just do xenophobe.

+15% from xenophobe
+20% from an early social tech
+20% from domination opener

There's other I've forgot

>>174035962
That looks pretty cool. Thanks for sharing it.

>>174036478
+10% from a civic.(also gives 1 extra rival I think)

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T-REX BURGER TIME LADS

>>174036439
I think it's 0.8%
It's also every time you enter a new black hole system.

When playing fanatic purifiers, do cleansing worlds as a wargoal count towards the unity gain from purging pops?

>>174036363
what's wrong with fanatic xenophobe?

>>174036704
no, some anon tried it last thread and only got it from purging

>>174036741
I assume they might just have other ethics in mind to get some meme civics or something.

>>174036741
Eh, I want to try and build a grorious imperium, but without being all FUGGING XENOS about it.

Perhaps fanatic militarist and materialist?

>>174037032
>I want to try and build a grorious imperium, but without being all FUGGING XENOS about it.

that is literally what militarist is made for my man

>>174037032

You can do Militarist Authoritarian (or egalitarian) Xenophobes. It's basically isolationists who would only care about themselves while subjugating others. You can even enslave aliens.

>>174037084
Exactly my thoughts.

>>174037094
Perhaps, but I'm thinking something along the lines of "we're all going to be one big happy cosmopolitan empire, by force if necessary"
Fanatic militarist and egalitarian might be the best.

>>174037172

What about militarist xenophile egalitarian? If not, then yeah I think F-mili and egal are best thematically

>>174037242
>militarist xenophile egalitarian

holy shit this is definitely what I'm going to do for my first playthrough

conquer the aliens, but they love it

>>174037084
>want to make divine empire of peaceful xeno-huggers who love liberty
>only option when egalitarian is elections

Is there a mod to unlock certain shit being tied to certain ethics like that?

>>174037425
What exactly are you asking for? You want a Democratic government when Authoritarian?

>>174036579
>T-REX BURGER TIME LADS
got that in my current game.

and they still let me recruit them as armies.

also I got gene modding so I put agrarian on the pops there so they will probably be able to feed a 40 planet empire on their own at maximum farm upgrade

>>174037032
>but without being all FUGGING XENOS about it
just go regular xenophobe and enslave any useful species, and displace any that aren't

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Holy fuck we found some slaves boys, my -25% mineral species can finally put their shovels down

>>174037763
>repugnant
Better genemod those disgusting fucks.

Is there a Steam Workshop downloader that works?

>build a free mining station on a +3 ec/month
>or scrap it for 610 minerals @ 30 a month

hmmmm

>>174037892


skymods.ru

what's with the format of the stellaris mods from the .ru website? it has a .mod file + folder named a certain number, a zip inside the folder, with another .mod file (and the actual assets of the mod), and all the .mod files are named "descriptor.mod"

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>>174036579
I hate that fucking event, it never works out for the better.

>>174035819
Corvette spam is still a thing, it's just easily countered ever since they overhauled combat a few patches back. Evasion was heavily nerfed in general, and they also added tracking to weapons as an additional countermeasure against it. So while corvettes can still evade large weapons, they have a harder time with smaller weapons, which have better tracking and accuracy. Also missiles have extremely high tracking which makes them perfect counters to corvette spam, especially since corvettes can no longer have point defense.

You can still get by spamming corvettes though, because they're cheap and fast and if the enemy is spamming cruisers and battleships they'll have fewer small weapon slots to deal with corvettes.

Also in terms of weapon meta, kinetic is now meta, lasers are meh, and missiles are generally bad past early game because the AI spams point defense. They nerfed laser armor penetration and accuracy and buffed kinetics by giving them bonuses against shields AND armor that scale with weapon size. So kinetics are good at all stages of the game. Plasma is also very strong because it's armor penetration is still very high, no reason to use lasers at all once you get plasma.

How does slave pop growth work? Makes sense that the game prioritizes my pops growing faster than them, but damn nigga. 0.10 is castration tier.

Mostly asking because I often get an event that gives one slave (Alien Trespasser) and another one that I forgot. Dunno if it's from mods.

>>174038116
It's http://stellaris.smods.ru/

>>174038138

the mods are uploaded in the way that steam saves them

when you unzip the compressed file it gives you a folder and a .mod file with the same 89849849 number that the mod

the folder needs to go in the workshop folder created inside paradox game , somewhere in program files

mod file goes alone in a folder named mod

if you open the mod file using notepad it will show you how the path needs to look like for it to work ,

are spinal mounted X weapons worth using? if so which one?

i remember hearing that arc emitters were the best but i don't know if thats still true

>Endless Space 1 is $1
>no one talking about it
personally I dont have much to say because of how easy I find it but this still boggles me

also should I buy Endless Space 2 now or wait for a sale?

>>174038429


what is google ?

>>174038525
Kinetic Artillery and/or Tachyon Lances

>>174038569

me and a friend got it today , didn't like it and he refunded it one hour later

i'm totally going to try ES2 though

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>>174038470
nah dawg, you just stick 'em in mydocs/mod like any other paradox game

>>174038638
personally I really enjoyed Endless Space up until the point where it no longer provided any challenge to me

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>Playing a multiculti powerhouse in Stellaris
>Be a liberal democracy
>Get a communique from someone
>Thought it's my nemesis
>Instead, it's a bunch of slaves from their empire who want to be free
>Accept them into my empire
>Check the system I got
>It's the capital system of my rival
>mfw

>>174038470
steam does some weird shit

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>>174035210
In the end the Unbidden were beaten not by Might, but by Friendship.

>inb4 why are your minerals so low
>inb4 why is your energy so low

>>174037546
Yeah, basically. Open all the government types no matter what ethics choices you have. Like egalitarians spiritualists who have a monarchy instead of requiring democratic elections

>>174038902
Why do you have so much food?
Why is your mineral income so low?
Energy doesn't matter as long as you're in a positive balance.

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>>174038902
>Jon Tron Prime

>>174038917
That sounds like it would be trivial to do with a mod.

>>174038979
>why is your mineral income so low
It was at +350 before, figure it's because I mobilized all my fleets at once.
Plus colonization rush since we managed to beat back the Unbidden, had to claim back all the worlds and didn't have the time to build anything useful.

>why do you have so much food
It's like 5 am and I couldn't bother destroying the farms when I could just pretend my nation is fighting an obesity crisis.

spectral wraith just jumped into the ringworld sanctuary system and got itself killed for me...

>>174038569
It is a relatively older title.

Buy it now since it has a 25% discount compared to when it will be on release.

>>174039029
I was drunk

>>174039048
It is. It's very explicit in the files you have to change, not hidden at all.

So can i research psionics then switch to materialist?

I'm going spiritualist with deviant/natural engineers to push towards materialism.

>>174039078
>tfw I never get any nice stuff like the sanctuary, horizon signal, non-xenophobic FE neighbors, etc
Just fucking kill me.

>>174039056
cool

Whats the best way to purge a species I just conquered?

Basically they're a shitty cuck species with awful genetics than also inhabit continental words so I want to BTFO them so humans can populate the worlds

I'm thinking processing looks pretty good. 10 years and they cease to exist

>>174039161
It's theoretically possible, but with how it works right now, you won't be able to get enough materialistic pops to embrace the faction because psionic tech adds spiritualist attraction and to attract materialists you need robots, but you can't research them.

>>174039131
Rename it to ProtonJon Prime and you will be forgiven.

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>tfw this shit is 3 jumps from Sol and blocking my expansion

Fuck you too game.

>>174039247
extermination is 5 years

>>174039376
>he fell for the hyperlane meme

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Name my Species and Empire, /civ4xg/.

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>>174039451
Im a big Aurora 4x fan and i play exclusively on Hyperlanes only.

>>174038979

>Energy doesn't matter as long as you're in a positive balance.

pull the other one.

Floating 10k-20k+ energy is something everyone should do once they get the opportunity.

>late game energy is easier to get than minerals
>energy can be used to buy minerals, curator help/scientists, artist troupe stuff, spice etc.
>helps to maintain positive balance even when you have 500k + of jump drive naval power flying around at the same time

Minerals is still the name of the game and mineral input allows you to get more of everything else, but floating energy gives you some flexibility and reassurance. Plus it's quick and easy for making economic factions very happy.

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What galaxy shape is most interesting/fun for hyperlane only?

Why does Stellaris get discussed 99% here when Civ VI is objectively the superior game?

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>>174005078
Which mod let's you settle on tomb worlds?
Please answer me!

Finally beat Awakened FE in a war. It was pretty easy, just had to chip away his 100k fleets one by one. He head like 6 of them. I had a big 280k fleet . Now I'm at 100 planets with 1200 pops. Still, there's a huge federation on the other side with equivalent strength. Might have to wage a war with them on more than 4 sides.

>>174039804
in Stellaris you can actually build FUN and GREAT tall empires
in civ6 tall doesn't even EXIST!@!!

W-what is this worm thing that wants to eat my scientists?

Oh god I'm committing to it, pray for me.

>>174039565
Species Dindu Nuffins
Empire Bix Nood

>>174039921
It loves you.

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>>174039804

>playing any Civ game before it has all the expansions/DLC released

>>174039920
What does tall mean in this context?

>>174039964
not colonizing in any context

Are f. purifiers still broken?

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>>174039804

Because it's too similar to Civ V and in turn slightly similar to Civ IV and Alpha Centauri.

I have put literally 2000+ hours collectively into those three games to the point where I really couldn't give much of a shit about Civ any more.

That being said Stellaris is a piece of shit and the only fun I have is in spite of the game's design. It's fun enough on multiplayer where you can scheme with or against other players but that's understandably hard to do with the time investment required.

However, this is how it's turned out, rest in peace.

>>174039861
The one I'm using in that picture is Planetary Diversity, which allows you to start in Tomb Worlds. However it also adds like 20 new types of colonizable planets and balances habitability.

I'm sure you'd be able to find other mod that allows you to choose Tomb Worlds to start on without adding new types of planets.

>>174039804
Why won't YOU discuss civ6 then?

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>>174039896

>>174039247
>I'm thinking processing looks pretty good. 10 years and they cease to exist

Processing if you need food 10 years.

If you don't want diplo pen - Displacement - who knows

Forced labour takes 20 more years than extermination but they produce food & minerals. Could be useful if you are planning on building mines or farms on the planets anyway.

Neutering is a waste of time.

If you don't want them.. just resettle one pop of your species to each purge planet and exterminate the rest. Deal with it in 5 years.

>Over 50 years since I put species as undesirables and they haven't been displaced yet
Help.

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>>174039247
>Whats the best way to purge a species I just conquered?
This.

>>174040184
Neutering really just seems like an RP option, or a way to really be hard on the species that causes you a lot of trouble.

>>174039669
What you are is retarded.

So I just got Stellaris and I want to enslave Alien races.

What's the best way to war if I want slave aliens? Do I just ask for all their planets in war demands then strip their rights?

>>174040265
Fuck.
Does neutering give a diplo penalty?

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why am i getting fucking annihilated by shit with half my rating? i follow the 1:2:4:8 rule.

>>174040405
My only option is displacement and it doesn't seem to do jack shit.

>>174040386
Certain Ethics and types of government allow you to start raid wars in which when the war is won you kidnap 10% of an Empire's population to work as slaves in your own.

>>174040410
2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 4 frigates works out so well.

Does it matter if you place your PD in the back or the front of your ship?

>>174040410
what is your enemy using

>>174040338
>stop liking what i dont like reeeeeeeeeeeee

Classic 4chan retard

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>>174040537

>>174040541

>gets upset when someone tells him the truth

classic facebook chump

>>174040410
Go for Tachyan Lance on Battleships. Also I go full plasma on the middle part and Matter Disintegrator on the right. No shield regeneration just shields + armor. Works out well.

>>174040541
You take hyperlanes only and then you complain about the consequences. Yes, you're retarded.

>>174039048
>>174039142
Well, where do I go to change it then. Give a guy some help.

>>174040658
>being this much of a retard

>>174040532

YES it does, it changes where it fires from thus changing it's coverage.

if you put flak cannons on the nose of every single battleship and cruiser you'll see a massive reduction in missile, strike craft and corvette problems, if your enemy is using them.
It doesn't matter so much with your PD destroyers, but keep in mind destroyers will sometimes be BEHIND the cruisers rather than in front, so your cruisers won't always be behind the PD shields of your picket destroyers.

>>174040609

Doesn't really tell me that much, what is their fleet composition like? Lots of corvettes? Lots of capital ships?

Large weapons target battleships and cruisers, medium weapons target cruisers and destroyers, small weapons target corvettes, generally speaking.

If they have a ton of corvettes then your big gun battleships aren't going to be doing much work.

What should I pick as my first ascension perk? I am playing fanatic military / materialist.

>>174040865
Mastery of Nature.

>>174040865
>What should I pick as my first ascension perk? I am playing fanatic military / materialist.
master of nature.

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What the fuck is a Spectral Wraith 520THz and why is it going around destroying my wormholes?

>>174040829
I just told you what the composition was. 1 battleship to 2 cruisers to 4 destroyers to 8 corvettes. I took a stack of 30k worth to fight 15k worth of shit and got my ass handed to me before I even killed half of them.

>>174040910
>>174040921

Why not interstellar domination? I can already clear most blocks.

>>174040976
Keep in mind next time that if you don't research any blocker clears and just get mastery of nature, you're saving a shit load of research time, building time and even money.
I thought it was a meme at first but it's really good.

>>174041040
Deffo this. If you specifically go for MoN in mind as your first one you can ignore virtually every blocker tech and save a ton of early game resources while getting access to potentially lucrative worlds and tiles a lot faster.

>>174040927

No, what was the enemy composition? Or are you saying it was roughly the same on both.

Naval power is fucking stupid and doesn't tell you much, the battle-end screen does. Something is clearly going very wrong.

How much damage is each individual weapon type doing efficiency wise? Kinetics are good against shields and armor, but are your small guass guns really doing as much work as small plasma cannons would do?

>>174040976

In the case that you've already gotten your way through most of that tech, take the technological one or something, something that's better for long term.

Mastery of nature is cool but has a niche because by the time midgame comes along I tend to terraform everything prior to colonization, but it can depend on your luck and how much you want to blob.

What are the best early traditions? Prosperity seems stronk with that 33% off mining stations

>>174040926
>What the fuck is a Spectral Wraith 520THz and why is it going around destroying my wormholes?

just let it pass.

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OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY

>>174040670
I think it's the "has_authority =" in 00_governments.txt

>>174041146
Expansion

>>174041121
I didn't pay attention to the composition but their energy damage split roughly 50/50 large plasma guns and large disruptors. Kinetic was mostly KA with some gauss.
70% of my energy damage was torpedos and the rest plasma. Kinetic was basically the same as the guys who rekt me.

>>174041146
yeah the first prosperity one is really good so i always get that

after that it's really up to you. im a research whore so i go full discovery into technological ascendancy for a sweet 20%+ research

>>174041146
Prosperity is strong but it shouldn't be the first one you complete, or really take any points in beyond getting the initial bonus. Generally I only take it first if my starting area is full of rich mineral locations and good energy locations so I want to spam mining stations to get ahead fast.

Normally I take expansion or discovery first depending on if I plan to expand quickly or I'm playing a tallish talented meritocracy for early level 4 starting leaders, fast research and 100% success chance anomalies.

>>174041146

Discovery is great in my opinion, gives you a bigger chance of alimonies, research points, leader levels and finishes up with a whopping 10% to research that stacks well with the ascension perk that also gives 10% to research. Expansion for early colonization and maintaining all those outposts.

>>174041264

>I didn't pay attention to the composition

Free shrugs then, there's not really much I can tell you.

If they were doing a ton of damage with large weapons that suggests that they were probably wrecking your larger ships with big guns, so i guess they probably have bigger ships as well.

Kinetic artillery destroyers mixed with energy torpedo corvettes are a nice counter to enemy capital ships.
However you should probably also change your guass guns on your corvettes, destroyers and cruisers to plasma cannons, those are the ship classes which usually get up closer to enemy fleets and get into brawls.

If you're going to have guass guns on anything put one or two on your battleships along with a couple of plasma cannons.

Typically I find that the neutron torpedoes, kinetic arty destroyers and your heavy artillery battleships do more than enough to strip shields from everyone

Plasma cannons ignore like 80% of armor or some shit, you want your brawling ships (vettes, destroyers, cruisers) to have some serious armor penetration.

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Anyone using new ship classes mod know why these new portrait groups are all here? The only ones with anything in them are Swarm and Purple Unbidden.

>>174041146
>What are the best early traditions? Prosperity seems stronk with that 33% off mining stations
diplomacy, domination and harmony are memes in the early game.

Prosperity is the worst of the "better" options imo.

Discovery if you are a tech empire, and the larger the map the better, spam out science leaders & ships, get automatic exploration, get the Planetary Survey Corps and you will be swimming in tech.

expansion is great, 2 pops per colony, an equivalent to the rapid breeders trait, capitols producing unity & getting +2 core worlds when finished.

Supremacy has 20% border range, a 15% fire rate when finished, admiral skills & ship building speed.

>>174041665
Something to do with the way you add new models into the game I guess, pretty much all mods that affect the ship graphics in some way do that.
Just ignore it.

>>174041665

stupid retarded technical limitations of the vanilla game mean that city classes, ships models and portraits are all linked together for [no reason]

>>174041523
All of my ships aside from 2 battleships got destroyed before I retreated out. I don't know how I'm supposed to defend against disruptors that shit on my shields and plasma that shits on my hull. Even if I turn all of those gauss guns into plasma cannons I would still get shredded.

>>174041754
>>174041736

I see, thanks lads. I remember when the game first came out I made a shitload of new portraits, in a separate group. That explains why a bunch of weird shit happened in the species creator, including city and ship types like you say.

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>>174000320

Does anybody know which mods give you this background?

>>174041754
>>174041736
>>174041665
>Devs haven't fixed this yet.
Why are they so fucking bad? How hard could it even be for them to fix?

Anyone ever had the displacement purge work at all?

>>174041851
Dark UI, I assume.

>>174041851
Most probably Grey UI.

>>174041797

Evasion and tracking.

If they were using smaller weapons than you and they got into knife fighting range, your large weapons and kinetic arty quickly start losing their effectiveness.

I've taken on fallen empires with equal or less fleet power and came out on top by using only cruisers/destroyers/corvettes and focusing on medium/small plasma cannons, kinetic arty and neutron torpedoes.

>>174041851

Grey UI or Dark UI, can't remember.

The city background is a habitat.

>>174041884

Yes, but it's really slow, mind as well neuter the pops. If you don't mind purging for real, turning them into a food source can really speed up your pop growth.

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>>174041884
>>174041916
I meant the planetary tileset in particular!

>>174041997
Habitat: >>174041949

>>174041949
So my utility slots are fine and all I need to do is change my corvettes from disruptors to plasma, and change every gauss gun to a plasma cannon and somehow I'll make up for the fact that they are tearing my shields up?

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>playing with a namelist mod
>get this

There's some good stuff in there too

genetic engineering >>>>> synthetic evolution

it's so much more versatile

>>174042053

You can't stop them from tearing shields up if they're tearing shields up, there's literally nothing you can do to stop that other than dodging more OR getting into close range where their large weapons can't tear your shields apart.

>>174042091
psionic is a meme and robot is a stealth meme

>>174041949
Thanks!
Too bad it's not cosmetic only...

>>174042107
How am I supposed to dodge more when I have max ranked thrusters/computers already? Like I said the only units that survived were the battleships. Everything else got taken out but the large plasma cannon/disruptor combo or the artillery.

>>174042271

Get afterburners and make sure your corvettes have a massive surplus, it contributes to their evasion.

>>174042271
You're not going to get meaningful answers when you can't even give us basic information like enemy fleet composition.

>>174042271

Listen dude you're asking me to give advice on how to overcome a fleet composition in Stellaris without giving me jack shit about the actual composition, enemy ship balance or their shield/armour balance.

What you CAN do is jump into close range by fucking around with positioning so you can get into knife fighting range asap so you're not getting ripped apart by large guns.

You could, for instance, stop using battleships altogether and focus entirely on cruisers and destoyers with + evasion and afterburners to get into close range ASAP. If they're stripping down your shields very quickly then your recharge capacitors aren't going to be much use anyway.

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Shieeeeeeeeeeet

>>174042447

>cruisers and destoyers

(and corvettes)*

>>174042486
That max fleet number with the last number being cut off really ticks my autism. Did you win btw?

I was in a similar situation just 250k vs 5x100k. Lost hard.

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>>174042578

Did Pdox not implement the ability to pick your syncretic evolution servant race portrait because they were afraid people would mod it to have the master race white and the servant black?

>>174042486
[Battle of Manticore flashback]

>>174042421
>Massive surplus
Okay that helps. I didn't know surplus power did anything. I already have tier 2 afterburners.
>>174042447
>Shield armor balance
I posted my loadouts and the final damage report as well as the breakdown. You can scroll up and look at it if you don't believe me. The fleet composition doesn't matter because it isn't just this one fleet that wrecks me; it's every enemy fleet of comparable size. Clearly I am doing something horribly wrong in general, so I want to know what that is.

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Uh, guys...

>>174042486
> 95K mineral cap
uwotm9

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>>174042648
>The planet has come to life as an infested being and is now infecting other celestial bodies
BURN IT

>>174042716
I guess mineral silos and there's a research where you can get +20k cap

>>174042716
Tons of mineral slave planets and as this guy said >>174042768
Now I'm rebuilding my fleet, lost more than a hundred corvettes, destroyers and cruisers

What are the recomended non meme mods for stellaris?

>>174042648
>Lobbing a planet at another planet to kill everything on the planet
That'll do.

>>174042940

>mechanist

NO ANON, BAD ANON

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>>174041146
You should rush Planetary Survey Corps in Discovery.
It's the best tradition in the game and is even better the earlier you get it.

>>174043042

What's wrong with it?

>>174043020
> Building Hawking engines on small moons in Planetary Annihilation
"That's no moon, that's my fist up your ass"

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>>174042648
Oh fuck not again

I want to attach an hyperdrive to my Dyson Sphere.

>>174043113
Can’t be replaced later, you get robots soon anyway.

The slave race you get from syncretic evolution is more useful as you can eventually slap industrious on them and then they outproduce synthetics when it come s to minerals.

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>>174043113
1) Robots are shit
2) You'll research them early enough in the game anyway
3) It uses up a civic slot that could be used for something else
4) You can never remove it by reforming your government, thereby condemning you to one less civic slot all game
It's literally the worst civic there is. I mean, Philosopher Kangz is shit, but at least you can spend 250 blurple to get out of it

>>174043168
What would that accomplish?

>>174043214

Superweapon that messes up with the orbits of enemy planets.

>>174043113
It does nothing but give you robits and does nothing for you as your progress into the game. You could effectively take mining guilds for the same bonus but have something that scales as the game progresses.

Mechanist really needs to reduce the build cost for robots for it to be worthwhile.

>>174043270
Nigga you can't move the sun inside the dyson sphere.
All you'd manage to accomplish would be to tear a giant hole in your megastructure.

>>174043113

You're giving away a civic slot permanently for four (4) robot pops and the tech to build them, which amounts to 600 energy credits, 200 minerals and approx 1k research points (Powered exoskeletons and Robots). Not a whole lot once you're past the very early game.

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>>174043307

>Nigga you can't move the sun inside the dyson sphere.


On the contrary, you can. They are called Stellar Engines.

What's the best build for a battleship-only fleet? Or would cruiser spam be better? I want to build big ships and not have to micromanage replacing them

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>symbol of unity has the same graphic for all types of governments and ethics.

>>174043323
>permanently
You know you can reform your government and choose other civics at any time right?

>>174043323
>>174043307
>>174043285
>>174043285
>>174043214
>>174043209
>>174043042
>>174043042

Alright, what Civics would you recommend then for mr. Weyland and his fellow bugs then?

>>174042940
>Implying it isn't what humans are.

>>174043414

You know you can't reform to get rid of mechanist or syncretic evolution right?

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>some religious faggot insults me ( something about living on borrowed time and how i have to lay down my weapons od deal with it )
>this is the system they have to cross to reach my planets
>its not even remotely finished

Molon labe, motherfucker.

>be fanatic purifier
>six dudes next to me
>eat dude to my immediate rimward, he was buddies with dude to my immediate trailward
>didn't help
>eat dude to my immediate rimward and spinward
>dude coreward of him, my spinward, is now buddies with the guy trailward of me and coreward of him
>eat him anyways
>fucker manages to get one last colony out midwar so I don't totally kill him
>the three of them are now allied with one more dude coreward and trailward of me, right next to the dude trailward of me
>they can't stand up to me in the slightest, their 4-way defensive pact is meaningless
>but it forces me to wait 10 years between each war, meaning a total of 40 years to eat them all
>except I need only a year between wars to get myself ready again

Why do fanatic purifiers need to play by the standard galactic rules of conflict, again?
"Yes, yes, we're hellbent on eradicating your entire species, but we'll listen to the code of war and give you ten years to prepare yourself"

>>174043414
You can't unlearn Sync. evolution or Mechanists.

>>174043547
>>174043490
Well that sucks.

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>>174043414

No anon, no you can't.

>>174043443

Research alternatives, bureaucratic systems, guilds.

>>174043494
Literally a waste of upkeep.

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>>174043401

You wheely think that? Go watch my wideos and you'll learn.

>Remove Mechanist and Syncretic Evolution as civics
>Move Mechanist's stuff to Fanatic Materialist
>Move Syncretic Evolution to Fanatic Xenophile

y/n?

>>174043494
>psi jumps behind u
>tips titan laser

>>174041981
Shit I can't do it I'm not xenophobe, only authoritarian.

>>174043515

Not a whole lot of fun if you're neighboring fanatic purifiers, mind as well quit after losing a war. Even though something like -75% modifier to truce timer would make sense to fanatic purifiers.

>>174043629
>fanatic xenophiles get xeno slaves

>>174043634
>behind

This whole system will be covered with military bases. There will be no "behind".

Also
>psi jump
>17 years into the game

Good joke.

>>174042091
>>174042181
Are you incapable of genetic engineering your pops if you go for psionic or synthethic?

>>174043629
Xenophobe would make a lot more sense to get a race of slaves.

>>174035679
>as opposed to the disgusting monster she is in the novel
She's morally disgusting regardless desu.

>>174043629
Nah. The ethics need adjustments but bonuses like these need to stay as separate bonuses.
Either the two need to be changed to be on par with other civics, or the better option would be to create a new tab in species customization like history that has other similar bonuses that are sort of special quirks.

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How annoying will these ones be? I have designed to them to trigger Democratic Crusaders AI personality.

>>174043824
>>174043676

I guess, yeah. Perhaps there would be 2 sync races. One dumb brute slave typ, one happy farmer type.

>>174043759
You cant get evolutionary mastery.

>>174043759

You still can. Vanilla gene mod is available to all. All that gene evolution does is give you better traits, and much more freedom at chosing and removing good and bad traits .

>>174043759
>psionic
you can still do it, although you get only the standard amount of trait points (up to the extra ones from research)

If I'm spiritualist and get the 5 % happiness bonus from the infinity machine, and then destroy it, do I lose the bonus?

>>174043874
Of all the changes they need to make to species creation I really wish they'd add drop down menus to select things like names as well as AI personality, so I don't have to spam random to find matching race/planet names and so I can see what qualities they have to have to trigger a specific AI personality instead of going by a fucking wiki page.

>>174038902
how did you not win the fed victory by that point

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>mfw service guarantees citizenship

>>174043494
What sorcery are you using to build mil. stations so close together?

Do sectors contribute full amount of research or only share?
It would be damn weird if it was only a share, although I suppose it could be justified by some shit like bureaucratic barriers between sectors etc.

>>174043629
Mechanist and syncretic evolution can both be salvaged by making them scalable in some way.

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Should I pick militarist and some other civic instead? Evangelizing Zealots .

>>174044093
Im using Station Rework mod, IIRC it should only give me more slots and higher stats for stations but maybe new version does something with zone of control of the station ?

>>174044146

>+1 extra xeno/robot pop on every colony

>>174044106
Full.
Food too.

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>>174044106
Full.
Which is why you shouldn't build a single research building in your core worlds and carpet them with mines and power. Because mines and power suffer from sectorisation whereas research (and unity) doesn't.

>>174040148
I wouldn't mind being joined to a hivemind with cute butterfly/moth people desu.

>>174044237

hivemind are lacking in all flavor, they are boring, you might as well make your hivemind humans and call them brainwashed incorporated

I've created a battleship design fitted with autocannons and afterburners so it would rush the enemy.
I think I have autism

>>174044276
I just want a world with butterflies. I don't want constant drama and backstabbing.

>>174044284

I, too, use my howitzers to run the enemy over.

>>174044318

you still get the random popups like "our scientists don't like that we're releasing the results of the survey to the populace" or "oh no a meteor everyone is scared" shit

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>>174044237
> tfw cute butterfly aliens will never swarm you and try to drink your "nectar"

Carrier or artillery battleship?

>>174044403
That's fine, I just don't like infighting.

Why do social welfare and utopian welfare make your pop more attracted to egalitarian and less to authoritarian? Shouldn't it just give some governing ethics attraction, as your pop's richness and standards of living are proof the current system works?

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>decide to balkanize closest religious faggots
>take two fleets
>i will attack from two directions
>send Home Fleet straight
>6th Fleet gets to go around
>jumps into system
>FUCKING ETHER DRAKE

Fuck me, lost 20 corvettes to that faggot plus 2 more from emergency FTL damage :/

Good thing that Home Fleet alone is capable of killing those religious faggots.

What's the maximum amount of trait points you can possibly attain?

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Are my aliens cute? uguu

>>174044634

I guess it is based on the liberal idea that people will to want to have more voice in their government the more well-off they are, which is debatable.

>>174044724
>>174044634

good times breed weak people

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>this guy
>that political party

>>174044680

5

>>174044915

I should have stated for genetic modification. Is it still 5?

>>174044236

One thing that bogs me about sectors though is the fact that they have to be self-sustaining, so you'll have to give them systems with mining or credit prodcution.

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>>174044662
Haha, balkanization of religious faggots : complete.

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>>174044765

>be peaceful egalitarian xenophile haven
>research AI
>all droids turn into synthetics
>they're all enslaved and unhappy
>have to wait for synthetic evolution ascension perk to give them citizen rights
>already a bunch of synthetic workers missing

sshhiiieeett

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What tech do you need to have a third Civic?

>>174044924
11 i think

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Huh? Isn't this more like the "I want to get my family/friend a high paying job so I'll pull her in as my assistant" type of corruption? You can't trick me!

>>174045164
The one that let's you build the final version of the capital building. Don't remember the name.

What would humans be in Stellaris with the new ethics and civics?

>>174045164
Fuck they are stealing my cute butterfly people, even the name! >>174040148

Kill them please

>>174045131
? Cant you just give them rights?

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>>174045164

Anyone kind know of any kinda cosmetic mods for Stellaris?

>>174045242
>Using game generated names
Only got yourself to blames

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Is my map kawaii?

>>174045194

How do you make the outliner icons small like that? Or it's just the huge resolution?

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>poor little dreadnought

>>174045319

Nope never heard of any.

>>174045345
How do you even read that, and how did you get it to look so regular?

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>>174045287

>>174045370
>default ship prefix

Why the fuck people do this shit ?

>>174045345
Cute as fuck/10

>>174045407
Autism i suppose.

Shift + LMB can drag system on Galactic map and there is a save map option somewhere out there.

>>174045407
Zoom and pan with the numpad.
Autism. I looked up how to make good looking stackable hexagon on a square grid, then I used that to make a hexagon on my map, then I took a screenshot and used a program that'd let me see the map through the screenshot and I reproduced the hexagon a bunch of time under it. Now I don't need it anymore.

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>>174045164
>-1015
>Unfriendly

>>174042867
Do you actually care about the planet you use as slave mineral planet? like the tiles or the size?
Do you sectarize all of them in one big sector?

>>174045267
you have to be materialist or have the synthetic evolution perk
i have neither

>>174045481
>Ship prefix is chosen at the namelist screen
>everything that decides what your prefix will be is chosen after
>Many times forget to change prefix and only notice when I'm many decades into a game.

There's so much in species creation I want to change. It's just very badly organized that forces you to hop around pages.

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>>174045617
Since I take the planets from other empires I usually don't pick the size, but when I colonize I prioritize big planets of course. Small are acceptable if they have bonuses to mineral production.

Later in the game you can engineer your slaves to suit your needs with strong/thrifty/industrious of needed. Be sure to maximize the output with silos, slave facility and +bonus slavery governor aswell as with Share the load edict.
Pic related is what a good slave planet can do.

I don't play with sectors though, I manually upgrade every planet myself.

How the fuck are you supposed to build ringworlds before 400 years into the game?

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Negative traits guy here again. I made some brutal gene-mod traits that require the maximum ascendancy point thing.

For those that weren't here last night, I made a mod that allows you to pick more thematic and/or difficult negative traits. Some of them are gene-moddable, too. The ones in pick related are gene-mods but only with the advanced perk.

Primal does more than that - it forces 100% happiness, -20% growth time, +10% migration speed, -100% mineral, food, energy and science from tiles. Basically, you gene mod some poor fucks with this, give the planet to someone you don't like and watch as they proliferate across their empire.

Here's the link:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=905584315

The super-gene-mods aren't gonna be in yet. I need to test if they actually work first. Plus, balancing. Tell me what ya think.

>>174045854
You build it after you win the game anon.

>>174045854

Zero Point Energy, Battleships and Space Fortress.

Get a Field Manipulation expert for physics research to get the ship reactor techs.

Get a Voidcraft expert in engineering to get Battleship, Space Fortress techs.

Once you have the pre-requisites techs, use a Voidcraft Expert in engineering to get the Megastructure tech. If you rush it with the right experts you can "easily" get megastructure tech by 2270.

>>174045906
>Primal does more than that - it forces 100% happiness, -20% growth time, +10% migration speed, -100% mineral, food, energy and science from tiles. Basically, you gene mod some poor fucks with this, give the planet to someone you don't like and watch as they proliferate across their empire.
So, it's basically the nigger gene?

>>174045906
>tfw no gene modded primal breeding sows

>>174045836
I like to manually upgrade my planets but I need a mod for that so I can't do it when I play in multi with friends
Can you show me the surface of your planet please? I want to know if you respect the tiles or just straight up damier style silo/mine the planet
Thanks for the tips

>>174045836
Nice, I see you also play as tree guys! I played as spiritual tree guys on my latest round. What ethos & traits do you have? Pls post species screen!

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>>174045836
>I manually upgrade every planet myself
>39 planets

>>174045984

Do assigned scientists affect what type of technology pops up?

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>>174045906
Brutal.

>>174046024

fucken KEK

+1

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Repensum est canicula you fucking Dragon.

>>174045820
>not autistically tweaking your custom empire including bio and custom flag/shipset

Come on man.

>>174045836
>>174046078
>I don't play with sectors though, I manually upgrade every planet myself.>>

Same here.
Plus i have Colonizable Homeworld mod so Sol itself has 10 colonizable planets.

>>174046091
upvoted :)

>>174046041
Perfect for the guy who posts the religion of peace species

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I fucking love the fact that you can get new ships while surveying for anomalies! These are almost OP in the beginning of the game, I tell you hwat.

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>>174046059
You basically ignore everything, except when putting your silo down. Make sure it boosts the optimum between
>2 tiles already boosted by the capital
>that have natural mineral bonuses from the get go
Put your slave factory on an empty slot and you're good to go.

>>174045906
I like the extreme negative costs versions but Infertile seems redundant considering you can slap on population controls and the AI don't give a rats assed about some some unhappy pop. Do you have some Uber positive-traits to balance it out? I want something that makes the species fucking monsters in 1 area but only if they take one of these negative traits to balance it.

>>174046024
edgy

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>>174046182
Firepower .. solves every problem and if it doesn't you are not using enough of it.

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Planets should be able to shot rockets at enemy fleets.

>>174046312

are those default corvettes lmao

>>174046419

Yeah it kind of annoys me that there's no attrition damage in seiges in Stellaris.

But the combat around planets in stellaris is fucking retarded.

>>174045906
Those look breddy gud, anon. Have a few more that might be fun.

>Berserker
>This species has been genetically modified to feel only rage; they are unable to partake in civilized life and actively disrupt, harass, and attack other sentients
Forces happiness to 0%
Other pops get -25% happiness

>Restless
>This species cannot stay still for long, neither locally or globally. They are driven to move and travel, unable to partake in barely any productive work
+100% migration speed
-50% Minerals
-50% Food
-50% Energy
-50% Science

>Hedonistic
>This species has been modified to be greedy, gluttonous, and lustful, requiring vast amounts of resources and pleasures to keep them nominally productive.
+100% consumer good's cost
+100% food upkeep (if possible to change)
-25% growth time

Does trading star charts remove survey bonus you get from Discovery and not be able to find anomalies anymore?

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>>174046432
Pretty much yeah.

>>174044634
> We are so rich, surely we can give these poor people some crumbs? It's not like we don't have any to spare

People think money grows on trees, anon.

It's like liberals today don't recognise that the only reason they can have their hybrid cars and branded sportswear is because of all those Chinese serfs assembling lithium batteries and sneakers in sweatshops

>>174046519
Yup, although you are unable to find anomalies if they have already found them on the tile anyway.

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>>174045367
A guy made a series of QOL mods called the 'Tiny' series. Tiny Outlier, Tiny Armies, etc. - extremely useful to have so that you don't have to scroll up or down forever if you plan on having a lot of core systems (or a lot of habitats in your core systems for that matter)

>>174046182
>not autistically tweaking your custom empire including bio and custom flag/shipset

I actually do that though.
I'm just saying there's no excuse to have to jump around pages as you flesh it out. The first run through should take care of 90% of the empire creation, and you should only have to go back after to tweak things you realize don't really fit like traits, ethics, or civics.

As it is I set the appearance, and namelist. Jump ahead to government, set that. Go back to set all my names. Then jump to the end to set ship type and weapon type. Then I go back to adjust civics and traits. And finally I set city appearance because often times that's determined more by civics or government than race type.

>>174046506
Pleasure slaves
> +50% happiness
> No unhappiness penalty from slavery
> -90% to all outputs
> +10% happiness to all other organic pops on planet

>>174046240

There are no uber-positives, no. Infertile was designed as an opposite to Fertile, both being Biological ascension mastery traits. I forgot about pop controls, so yeah, infertile feels really redundant I agree. Probably gonna drop it if I can't think of a good alternative.

>>174046506

I really like Berserker. I'm not sure if it's possible to set happiness to 0 outside of a modifier reducing it by -1000000% or something, but I have no idea how the game will handle that. Will give it a try.

Hedonistic is in there, to some degree. -50% governing ethics attraction is all it is. Consumer goods cost is definitely a good idea, growth time too. Don't think the food change is possible.

Restless is good but a bit extreme in the negatives, I think. Would probably drop the -food and -minerals to simulate low end/simple jobs that you can pick up and put down quickly.

Thanks for the ideas.

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>>174046525
>armor on corvettes

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>>174046061
Tree guys are pretty cool. I wanted to use this OP build I heard so much about, works well.

>>174046590

But it's still possible to find anomalies in AI systems, right?

>>174046202
Thanks man
This look pretty good
I'll try to do that and see how it goes

>>174046706
>tfw you use nonoptimal corvettes because you can't stand slots being empty and massive power surplus, and a tiny ship filled with reactors triggers your 'tism

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>tfw blast Ether Drake
>tfw Dragon Hoard is a massive Molten planet rich as fuck
>tfw its inside the borders of my vassal
>tfw i try to play as a conservative Human Federation that is humanity only so no integration

Fuck my life

>>174046706
Well yeah, i put armor on corvettes.
Deal with it.

>being this much of a faggot for min maxing

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>>174035475
sorry to disappoint, it's extremely weeb

>>174046737
No.
This is why you should a) never trade star charts, and b) never scan in AI systems (wait until you inevitably conquer them), and c) should never research/use Automated Survey Algorithms, because automated survey ships WILL go into AI systems.

>>174046737
If they failed to spot them but it's highly unlikely.

>>174046895
AIs don't "find" anomalies.
Anomalies aren't generated at the start of the game and then lie hidden in wait for you to find them.
Anomalies are generated on survey. Every time your ship surveys a body, it rolls a dice, and there's something like a 2% chance of finding an anomaly.
So the AI can't "find anomalies before you" because the anomalies don't exist until your ship scans them.

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If I colonyze a system with several planets, does it count as one core system?

What about the science penalty?
Do i get a science penalty for each planet or only for a system?

>>174046885
>This is why you should a) never trade star charts,

Not that guy but fuck you for saying that - now i have to start another game :/

>>174047005
>being this autistic

>>174047027
As far as your core count is concerned, it's number of systems.
As far as your research modifier is counted, its number of planets.

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Should Dyson Spheres be equipped with energy-matter convertors, thus capable of producing minerals?

>>174047045
start another life loser, it doesn't matter that much

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RIP Unbidden 2353.10.03 - 2354.05.08

Maybe if I let them eat The Boundary and The Core like they were going to at first I wouldn't have to deal with the angry xenophobes on those planets, but I guess I'm too nice for that

>>174047080
That'd make a breddy cool end-game mine tech, honestly.

>upkeep of like 20 energy
>produces 20 minerals

>>174047080
I wish you could weaponize Dyson Spheres to blow up enemies with the power of the sun from half the galaxy away

>>174047046
Well the other anon was straight-up wrong, and in important ways which affect gameplay.
You never have to worry about the AI surveying things before you do. There's no limited pool of anomalies that both you and the AI draw from. So take it easy if you see an AI survey ship flying around; it's not going to steal your finds.

>>174041215
I'll give it a go, thanks mate.

>>174047152
- t. J.J. Abrams

>>174047152
>shot beam
>wait thousands years fo it to actually reach target
>???
>profit

>>174047045
Better you learn this now than 17 games in.

To be honest it seems like a bug, but it's been that way since launch and Paradox doesn't seem interested in changing it.

>>174047152
Something like a Dyson Sphere, but over a black hole? Use advanced wormhole tech to create entry/exit links from your weaponised black hole to target suns, turning them into blackholes or pulsars and wiping out everything else in the system?

>>174047152
Play Star Ruler.