/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

First for dead genre

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>>173849707
>he likes playing whack-a-mole on upgrades

>>173849696
>OP pic

>fanatic spiritualists
>ever

What the fuck am I reading?

>>173849942
You know what would be great, having Golden Years in Stellaris

Each year without war gives puts you in a Golden year that drastically increases research rate, but it also pisses off all your neighbors making them jealous

This kills two birds in one stone; 1. The AI is far more likely to attack you so your midgame isnt just passive researching 2. It still lets players still shoot through research

So basically it changes nothing, except saving the player time because you still research at a faster rate for a shorter time and gives you a reason to not be a pacifist.

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>>173849696
Reminder that Stellaris is shit and Distant Worlds is based.

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>>173849707
>Early war my neighbour so I can baby cage him
>The shitter has 6 systems with double digit mineral/energy/research production from stations
>Post war research gets slingshotted massively
>Within a couple of years I'm near fallen empire tier compared to other races
>Blob 1/4 of the galaxy without warring anyone else
>Spend the next 50+ years terraforming and colonizing hundreds of planets
>No other race in the galaxy is a threat to me. Could wipe out all of their fleets with a few corvettes.
>Realise I'm just wasting time until there's a crisis, that I'll probably be able to end before it even begins.

Its a hollow kind of comfort.

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do you guys like elite?

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>>173849696
Please rate my faction.

I want to roleplay a sort of ideal society for me, which got to start fresh by accident on a new planet. I'm considering dropping Xenophile and going for Fanatic Materialist. Should I do this? How do my traits look?

Bio:

>When an AI-piloted, human colonist ship from the UNE malfunctioned before reaching its destination, the emergency override systems activated and awoke the crew from their cryosleep. The ship crash-landed on an uncharted world with no casualties and few injuries, given the courageous efforts from the commander and pilots who took over. Since all communication functions aboard were irreparably damaged in the accident, these humans were completely isolated from Earth. The ship's AI - which held in its archives vast amounts of information on Humanity and its accumulated knowledge - was salvaged however, which made it the perfect teacher for new generations. The mentoring and guidance from this AI was vital for these humans to prosper on their new home, bootstrapping a scientifically oriented society in a matter of a few centuries.

>>173849942
listening to the music with the game on max speed while chewing through the remaining techs and creating gaia worlds is pretty comfy desu

>>173850303
elite what

>>173850215
You just got like 10 replies of people saying DW is shit

This isnt going to change anything

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>megastructures
>still no way to build titan-class ships
Also how do they manage to make everything so barebones? Is it just one intern working on the game?
>wow cool you can be a hivemind
>no difference other than some numbers bonuses
>wow cool you can play as synths
>no difference other than some numbers bonus
>wow cool genetic ascension
>some extra traits and few new traits
Psionics is the only one they actually bothered to add anything for.

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>when you're a fanatic purifier but you're maxing unity points for sweet ascension perks and you max out diplo because you can

>>173850338
>I want to roleplay a sort of ideal society for me
so one where you get laid?

>>173850463
>>still no way to build titan-class ships
They have to save something for the Military Expansion.

Im not kidding by the way, they've already said its happening.

>>173850463
>>173850542
Five bucks say the titans will be less interesting than the ISB ones

>>173850383
i might feel the same way but the 20-30 fps gets to me in the endgame, and i have no desire playing with less than 30 empires on a 2000 star map

>>173850615
Without a doubt. It's pretty amazing how they manage to make anything they touch underwhelming. sci-fi is a pretty fleshed out genre too. They literally have an endless amount of interesting things they could build around but they don't.

Civ VI
Pro: Less AI snowballing.
Con: Early game can be downright impossible at times.

>>173850893
Utopia/Banks breaking most of muh mods reminded me something pretty important.

I don't love Stellaris, I love heavily modded Stellaris.

>>173850893
Not helped by the generic tech tree shared by every ethos.

You would think a warlike race would develop better weaponr than some pacifists? Nope. Exactly the same. They just get some building instead.

We just need to wait 5 years for the espionage, military, diplomacy, religion & kitchen sink expansions.

Is there any way you can set what kind of star or star system you want for your start in Stellaris?

I'm kind of tired of having to re-hit new game over and over until I get one I like

>>173850893
I have no doubt that internally the Stellaris dev team is hated by the rest of Paradox, its probably a skeleton crew which is why they cant get much done.

I mean could you imagine you spend years making these history games then a small part of the team goes off and makes Stellaris that shits all over the other titles? Must have driven them mad with jealously. Its why stellaris got kicked out of /gsg/ at least.

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Oh fuck oh shit guys I've never been in a war before and my fleet power is shit what do I do aaaaaaaaaa help me ;_;

>>173851375
>You would think a warlike race would develop better weaponr than some pacifists? Nope. Exactly the same.
Except thats false you utter faggot. Militaristic empires get a huge bonus to the chance of getting military techs.

>>173851721
Sit your fleet by your space station. Build more corvettes.

Once you beat his fleet, go kill his stations and you win.

Just re-watched Event Horizon.
Fuck that film is a piece of shit.
Gets the imagination running though, which is something.

>>173851721
Your first mistake was not immediately preparing for a potential war.

When you meet your neighbors, pay attention to what their personality is and their opinion of you. If they dislike you then time to start building up your military and preparing for the worst.

Start building up military ships, make sure their components are up to day with the tech you've got. Rely on your spaceport, it's still early in the game and that thing can provide you with a big fat advantage in combat.

>Set FTL type to "Warp only"
>Commonwealth of Man with their wormholes spawns in-game anyway

What did they mean by this?

>>173849078
Non-Telvanni Dunmer are extremely religious, just not evangelistic. Telvanni are distrusted by all the other factions because in addition to being ancient insane wizards they also border on atheistic, which is a big No-No in traditional Dunmeri society. Dunmer are big on respect for the dead, so it makes sense that colonizing Tomb Worlds would piss them off, too. I do think your pick of Materialist for the Telvanni works, though, but they really are atypical Dunmer.

Can a synthetic species turn aliens into more synthetics?

Would xenophobia kick in if so?

>>173851351
I can't even play Stellaris without mods, they just add so much to game.

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>piss off fallen empire after colonizing tiny gaia world
>how hard can it be
>they march 88k worth of armies into my space and start a siege on my planets

>>173852113
What mods did you particularly like? I'm trying out the Alpha Mod right now and can't say I care for it. Adds too much useless shit that doesn't make the game any better or more interesting.

So I've noticed since banks hit the AI seem to go super wide at an extremely rapid pace compared to before.

>>173852113
I have no idea what mods to get, the master list in the megaupload isn't exactly useful and i can't use the workshop because i'm a dirty poor

>>173851775
Not the point I was making.
Also not especially noticeable.

I was meaning, every ethos ends up with the same tech choices.
There is NOTHING unique, except a couple of buildings, and maybe a couple of +% buffs.

Where are the militarist exclusive stormfire lasers & plasma missiles? Shit like that you double N'wah

>>173852304
The only ethic-exclusive techs that I know of are the Psionic ones which are reserved for the Spiritualist factions, who are also unable to research Droid/Robotic techs. Weirdly, they can research Self-Aware AI. Just not robots. They also get a unique Ascension perk in the form of Consecrated Worlds.

Once again, Spiritual/Psionic is the only ethic that Paradox bothered adding anything unique to.

>>173852304
>Not the point I was making.
Yeah, because you were making a wrong point you utter faggot
>It doesnt matter
Its a fucking HUGE difference, its x1.5 chance of getting all military techs. You can see the difference this causes in game by just looking at player and AI empires tech supremacy differences.

Locking techs to certain empires is absolutely fucking retarded. Different empires will have different priorities, but just because one is a pacifist doesnt mean they cant figure out how to lob a mass of metal through a railgun.

>>173852273


http://stellaris.smods.ru/ TRUST THE RUSSIAN HACKERS

>>173851889
>>173851965
Alright, but fuck I don't want to lose all my mining stations and shit.
I should have prepared yeah they're fanatic xenophobes and hate my Imperial ways and declared rivalry on my like a year after meeting me I'm fucking stupid

How does the War Demands system work? Anyone have any idea what I should be going for?

>>173852514
Just do the lowest score, which is humiliate, will let you end the war sooner

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>>173852489

>>173852437
Pretty much what I mean.
And even then its only a couple of techs. Either robots or temples.

The only other one is the EXTREMELY weak slavery system from authoritarian/egalitarian. So pointless outside of RP purposes it might as well not exist.

Just have to wait for the good goy dlc.

>>173852489
Well, what the fuck's worth grabbing?

>>173852231
I like Ethics&Government Rebuild, but it needs to be updated. Aside from that I generally like mods that add more ship classes, ship parts, traits, and events. It's also a good idea to get the Multiple Crisis mod.

In general I just suggest you browse the workshop and see what sort of things catch your interest. Or search for things you feel are lacking in the game.

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They've got 1.1k fleet power jesus fucking christ ;_;

>new update for stellaris
>new 20 dollar dlc
>still no key mapping
reee

Lazy faggots

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>>173852231
Not counting stuff like shipsets (Sins of the Prophets and Downscaled Ships are a must get) or UI mods (I find Stellaris unplayable without the 1080p overhaul and Folk's tiny UI mods),
>Improved Space Battles, Doomsday Weapons & Ships is essential. Balance and Graphics are great, Living Systems is nice but will make your rig beg for death, I don't care enough about Micro Jump but it might be really useful
>No Clustered Starts
>Fallen Empire Expanded
>LEX (bring lube)
>Relics of a Fallen Empire
>Utopia Expanded, especially if you like ringworlds
>War Name Variety
>Crystallis Ship Modules Expansion or That Feel When's Bunch of Ship Parts. I prefer the former
>Harder Invaders
>one of Kolyn's titan weapons mods. Titan Weapons + one of the titan laser mods is a good choice. The Zenith of Fallen Empires seems like some really fun times but I have yet to try it out
>If you enjoy making your navy retardedly good and breaking the balance, Elite Militaries is an old one that should still work post-Banks and too hilarious not to try at least once
>Gods and Guardians
>Spurdo Species

>>173852084
Bump.

Can I assimilated aliens into my synthetic empire?

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>>173853046
They've taken my one other planet and are offering peace.
Do I take it or do I keep the war going and hope they get crushed by my station?
I'm almost done researching a derelict shipyard and I'm praying to the fucking Mantle it shits out some decent ships. I can't get enough minerals fast enough to build up my military and the two other civs I've encountered are fanatic xenophobe isolationists and honorbound warriors who both refuse to trade with me

>>173853159
Improved space battles is great just because it speeds up the slow early game immensely

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>>173853432
>capitulation to squids

don't even think about it anon

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>>173853432
>>173853772
Wellp this is what it shat out.
Maybe I have a chance, the enemy uses only lasers and all my corvettes have 80 shield strength so.
Alright anon, to the death it is.

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>>173853681
And gives you some fun toys in the late game
>tfw activating a Sun Crusher in a long time rival's home system

>>173850463
>>still no way to build titan-class ships
just download a ship class mod. I had one with different carrier types, battlecruisers, frigates, dreadnoughts and massive flagships.

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>>173853885
They've got Destroyers ;_;
They're just cruising around my outer systems, dismantling my mining stations and crippling my economy and they keep fucking reinforcing.
All I can do is cower in my home system and wait for the inevitable

>>173852468
When the wiz finally gets his ass around to implementing full exterminatus stuff to the game I could see that being locked behind militarists and xenophobes on the grounds that completely ending the biosphere of an inhabited world isn't the kind of thing anyone else would really do even if they could on a technical level.

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>>173854302
Oh thank FUCK you lifesaver I might be able to afford some actual fucking ships now

First 20 hours in. Should I just do random empire + hard and just figure out different play styles? I hate playing too easy and learning bad habits. I would rather be punished. Maybe I could compound this with smaller galaxies, I don't want to play on a huge galaxy and wait too late to realize my military is on my wifes sons level.

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>>173854417
Oh for fuck's sake what the fuck is every goddamned race in this galaxy a fucking xenophobe?

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Hey guys, newfag with a problem here

Recently installed Civ4 (from Steam) and all expansions. However, whenever I try to launch the base game or any expansion, the launch loading bar freezes at the "Init Engine" step and gives me pic related.

Google gives me old threads and none of the solutions I've found, such as changing stuff in the init file, have worked.

Has anyone had this problem? If so, did you manage to fix it?

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>>173852770

I cut the ones that no longer work

>>173852468
Well thats just like, your opinion man.

>>173854620
better than xenophiles who will inevitably build a giant federation and team up against you

>>173854614
Problem is that if you just go random you might end up with fanatic pacifist xenophile and learn tactics which are irrelevant for all other playthroughs.

You will probably learn the most from xenophile / militarist /authoritarian, giving you all of slavery, multispecies management, and robot mechanics to play with.

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>>173854620
WHY
FUCKING WHY

Alright guys they've pretty much locked me into my home system and they're not doing anything.
My fleet still has much lower fleet power compared to theirs but they primarily use lasers and armor compared to my autocannons and shields, do I try and push out or do I keep hiding?

>>173855237
>do I try and push out or do I keep hiding?
you're about to get raped

>>173855237
Make blueprints for cheap corvettes, the cheaper the better.
Mass produce them.
Try to kite an enemy fleet next to your star base and have your fleet hit their fleet while they are fighting the base.
Once enemy fleet is kill, go to nearest planet, bombard its defenses and land troops.
Once invaded,, pull troops out, fly to the next system, rinse and repeat.
Continu till you have enough war score to force a peace treaty/take a system.

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>>173855674
This is my current Corvette design, should I strip it off all except weapons and spam them? I'm already at max fleet capacity.

Also, I've got deflector IIs on the way and I've shoved all my research power into physics to get it there faster.

>>173855237
1) Build a defence platform with a snare module next to your spaceport
2) Build more defence platforms until there's enough guns to defeat their fleet
3) Wait for them to attack, win the defensive battle.

>new game
>1000 stars
>max civs
>discover two civs about 5-7 stars away from me
>one is evangelizing zealots
"Oh, that's a shame; whatever, I can deal with them"
>other is fanatical purifiers
Fuck me

>>173855225
Ah cool I will try out that recommendation. What I had the idea of was emergent learning, like understanding "oh I can do to this strat cause of this SPECIFIC component of my empire", Fitting the pieces together and apart and then being able to look through how enemy nations are built up. I play dominions and that game each nation has a million unique moving parts and to understand your nation you simultaneously have to understand the specifc nose hairs of your neighbor as well, as opposed to treating every playthrough the same and getting angry at different results.

But I see you are reccomending a grabbag nation that can do a lot of mechanics, as opposed to a min/max

>>173855847
Well, the third I just found are friendly enough hegemonic imperialists; hopefully the zealots will distract the purifiers.

>>173855815
>This is my current Corvette design, should I strip it off all except weapons and spam them? I'm already at max fleet capacity.

Just make a new design, leave the current design so you can upgrade them later. If you have missiles unlocked, a cheap corvette with literally just 3 missiles and a power source can tear through opposing corvette fleets without point defence.

Do colony bases suppress minerals, energy, or science?

>>173852084
>>173853354
Guys, please answer these; I need to know if synthetic ascension is worth it.

>>173855871
Stellaris suffers from a problem that there are no significant differences between nations and the only victory condition is getting groß, so every playthrough is mostly the same.

But it's not *quite* that simple, in the sense that 90% of builds will function almost identically, but then in the remaining 10% you've got Hive Minds, Fanatic Pacifists, and Fanatical Purifiers, all of whom radically diverge from the mean and if you'd accidentally selected one of them you WOULD learn bad habits.

For that matter when you're on trait selection don't go for any of the lifespan adjusting ones, or thrifty, or industrious.

Lifespan is a subtle resource to get to grips with so it's best if you don't mess around with it while you're learning, and avoiding industrious/thrifty will encourage you to practice economic restraint.

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>>173856241
Alright, how's this? I don't have any missiles unfortunately.
Plus, at only 7 minerals a month my economy is fucking crippled so it'll take a while to build enough

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Welp, this is the longest I've lived so far, and it happens to be with my ferengi spider people. I've given out thousands of energy credits just to delay war. I got into one war somewhat early on, and the guy had 4x my military power, he bombarded a planet then just sat on it and did nothing, not even send over troops. I finally built up my own military to somewhere near close his (this went on for like 10 years), then he just sends a flat out peace offering cause it went on too god damn long. Now my territory has gotten huge and I'm wondering where to go next. I'm going to make at least one more outpost for the time being, not sure what else after that.

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>>173856445
I've got destroyers now but I'm not sure how much help that's gunna be.

>>173855815
>taking a screenshot while the game is running on fast
M A D M A N
A
D
M
A
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>>173856720
>destroyers
are a meme. not useful at low tier fighting.

>>173856445
is your captured planet being guarded? You should probably go recapture it otherwise you're going to lose eventually

>>173855847
>>173855971
>pirates about to blow up my energy station
>fuck, corvettes won't get there in time
>bro imperialists suddenly jump in out of nowhere with a 10stack
>wipe the pirates for me
>I send them a defensive pact invitation right afterwards
BROS
FOR
LIFE

>>173851684
>getting kicked out of /gsg/
That's for the best. It's kind of sad how bad /gsg/ is.

>>173856681
Are the Hann'Felir xenophobes?
If so, don't build an outpost to the southeast for gods sake

>>173856870
>destroyers are a meme
get a load of this baddie

>>173851684
>Stellaris that shits all over the other titles
whoa hey easy there bud, i mean i like it too but i'd still say CK2 is better
at least until Stellaris has also had 5 years of updates

>>173857186
I think he meant saleswise

Never underestimate the cash allure of casualisation.

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Saia or Maelstrom? I'm trying to cheat those purifiers out of the most shit.

>>173856870
The only meme ship is the corvette
>M-Muh evasion

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>>173856934
Wellp.
I did that, sent my navy out to bombard it and some transports to cap it.
Immediately after this happened.
They melted my snare station in two seconds and then melted my shipyard in five.

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are distinguished admiralty or other fire rate bonuses worth it or is this a meme civic

>>173856720
You could upgrade your starbases to level 3, for additional defensive power and additional fleet cap.
But dnt bother with the destroyers, they are just more expensive shits that ultimately do nothing at all to help.

>>173857375
My gut says, Maelstrom.

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>>173857382
Many brave Dawylia lost their lives in a fruitless but valiant defense.

>>173857252
that's just cause sci-fi is more fun than history

>>173857526
My does too; let's hope we're right

>>173857382
I say you should abandon this save file and try again.

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>>173857539
>>173857606
And so ends the Holy Dawylian Ecumene.
I got absolutely demolished.

Can someone post a screenshot of the sentinels?

I want to know what they look like.

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>>173857375
>>173857526
>>173857582
>literally just got +20% border range too
FUCK

Well, I'm planning on going tall, so the border range ascendency might not be a bad idea.

>>173856296
For fuck's sake, guys, give me a break here.

>>173857780
No, going full synth right now is absolutely shit and in need of updates, just like all the other half-baked shit added in Utopia

>>173855225
Sorry did you mean to say "materialist" not militarist since I read here "robot mechanics to play with"

>>173857780
My best answer is.

I got no idea.

Downloaded the star trek mod yesterday and got annihilated by the xindi probe.
Any tips for my new playthrough?

>>173857907
So, when I conquer aliens, I have to deal with disgusting organics in my empire? Lame.

I guess I'll exile them from the planets I conquer.

I hear a lot of praise for psionics, but I don't like leaving things to chance and I love the idea of doing away with food production tiles in favor of more energy, research, and minerals.

>>173857907
Turning alien pops into synths should be a post-ascension Purge option.

>>173858209
Why not turn them into servers tho?
Why suffer the xeno to become better than your species?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h65FXaJHbhE

>>173858209
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902287752
Description has link to a perk only version.

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Behold the face of intergalactic domination.

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>got my ass kicked by a federation
h-heh, took 4 of you to beat me

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>>173858596
>kicked a federation's ass so hard that it fell apart

>>173858352
I mean, a post-Synthetic Ascension option.

You know, call it Synthetic Assimilation or something.

>>173852084
No you can't but you can make them cyborgs, doesn't change their looks though

>>173858674
So, in a word, Borgslavin'?
Make 'em pick bits for eternity!

>>173858448
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

It just goes with the whole Cylon/Borg feel they're obviously working with here; it's astounding it isn't included.

>>173858784
I just want my perfect, immortal machine empire to spread through the galaxy without having to manually place EVERY SINGLE SYNTH on EVERY SINGLE TILE.

>>173858748
I guess that's something, but my empire is xenophobic; they have to be Synths or it'll cause problems if they inhabit the same worlds.

do woke xenophobe FE's still get mad if you colonise shit near them?

>>173859060

No , but why would you want to be close to that shit ?

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>>173859101
because I'm surrounding their empire pretty much.

>>173859347

Better start mass producing meta cruisers and invading armies

>>173858640
Is there any greater feeling?

>>173849696
that's an interesting piece of fluff actually

learn something new and cool every day

If I want to play a Science faction, will I be hurting myself too much by picking Xenophile/Egalitarian/Materialist instead of Egalitarian/Fanatic Materialist?

I kind of want the boon from Xenophile to Diplo, but I don't know if it's worth it.

>Want to become a robotic race
>Need unity
>Unity comes from primarily religious aspects
Retarded.

Also; does robot maintenance cost reduction serve any purpose once you turn your whole race robotic? I assume it does but just checking

>>173860107
Its only a 50% research difference, its not that important

>>173860275
:^)

>>173860312
*5%

>>173850338
>I want to roleplay a sort of ideal society for me
only you alone can be a judge of how well you accomplished that desu

it sounds like an alright outset for a story about how man and his synthetic/AI friend together claim the galaxy. I'm guessing you're going for the robot ascension.

>>173859458
they just picked a fight with another nearby fallen empire and a 6 empire coalition of my neighbours.

Have decided to take advantage of this and invade them.

Wish me lock.

>>173857571
Well, you would think so, but Stellaris is very boring while CK2/EUIV isn't, so ???

>>173860521
>CK2/EUIV isn't
Pfthahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahhah

>>173857718
Cool name tho
F

ok so i just found out the 1st prosperity ethos is really fucking good
30 minerals off for every mining station is borderline broken in the early game

>>173857913
It isn't materialism that gives you robots. You just have to NOT be spiritualist

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This fucking no mans land. This fucking place jesus christ. So originally the place was fully colonized, the blue outline was the blue hivemind, the pink outline the dark pink hivemind and the red outline the light pink fanatic militarist xenophobes.

So pretty much instantly after first contact with each other the hiveminds and militarists have been at constant grinding 3 way war with each other that I checked in on every now and then to keep up to date and see if anyone got a big advantage that could pose problems to me and this is my most recent check.

The psychotic bastards have managed, through constant ceding and conquest in wars, to wipe each other out to the point where two of what were once the most powerful empires in the south of the galaxy are now crippled single system empires, and the fanatic militarists have lost half of their empire and absolutely no fleet power left and have had significant territories conquered from the north by a previously irrelevant faction which has put them on much more equal footing. While the green empire to the south has been able to expand unopposed into the wasteland left by these 3 chumps.

This is honestly one of the better things I've seen happen in stellaris for a while.

>>173860678
i meant tradition idk why i typed ethos

>>173860521
>EUIV isn't
hah.

CKII is fun for a while playing zoroastrians then it's kinda dull. i feel like some of the updates actually made it less fun.

>>173860552
Fine.
"Isnt AS boring"
It's no 007 Goldeneye I'll give you that

Can you get Mechanic as a tradition once you start the game? Or is it a starting civic only?

>>173860772
Playing pagans is best.
I can actually play out my rape/impregnation fantasies without having to learn Japanese

>>173860867
Starting only, as is syncretic evolution.
Also if you pick them you can't change them, effectively limiting you to one less civic the whole game.
It's shiiiiiiit

>>173860958
Oh god thats awful

Thank god I didnt take it though

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>>173860439
may have bitten off a bit much here.

>>173860958
The event that changes you to spiritualist gets rid of it iirc.

>>173861197
Fucking really?
In my current game I started with syncretic, I just got the old gods event. But I already have the government form it gives, and I have unlocked extra civics...

>>173860958
You say mechanist is shit but if you manage your resources well then it's effectively a 100% growth boost early game, since the robot pop is produced independently of regular pops, which is ridiculously good for kickstarting your colonies. It's useless in the mid and lategame sure but there's gotta be a trade off for that kind of boost. It's certainly not the best trait because of the fall off and inability to swap it out, but it's not shit.

>>173860735
10/10

>>173861442
Agrarian Idyll + Inwards Perfection is infinitely better for rushing unity and getting your pops robotic.

You can always just research robots after all, its a very early tech.

>>173861269
Oh sheit it works, neat.
Then I just need to embrace the xenophobe faction to get my ethos back.

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>>173849232

but it's ugly!

>>173854651
I have never heard of this problem

>>173861442
Everything you say is technically correct in a mechanical sense, but at the same time almost irrelevant because planets fill up so fast that accelerating the process further is nigh-irrelevant.
"Not having enough pops to work your resources" is not a problem anyone ever has in the early game. You don't need (or, indeed, WANT) a single pop for economic growth until you've run out of space mining station sites because planetary facilities cost more bucks for your bang (in terms of upkeep and the science penalty of pop workers)

How's this for a backstory of spiritualist synth empire:

Orphans of Mem
Formerly servants, guardians, companions and friends of the Mem Civilization, these sentient, sapient machines are the sole inhabitants of the cities and installations left behind by their mysterious, reclusive creators.
As far as the available records are concerned, the Mem nation never developed technology required to travel to the stars, instead opting to focus inwards as well as toward the supernatural in search of their destiny and enlightenment. Their theologians and statesmen have worked together to develop and maintain a religious and apparently harmonious society, while their technologists and researchers have strived to replicate the miracle of sapience. The two were apparently in accord, believing, that success in this endeavour would prove their worth to their own creators and grant them ascension, or at least uncover a way towards it.
The Orphans are apparently the fruits of this enterprise. Regarding the ultimate fate of their creators no records exist, or if they do, they are not available to study. Their synthetic creations claim, that their creator's disappearance is a mystery to them as well - one they intend to unravel.
In the meantime, the Orphans of Mem have adopted culture, religion and technology of their makers, determined to carry on their legacy until they can be reunited. That is not to say that it is kept immutable: the Mem religion's focus has been expanded to place additional emphasis on remembrance, and their pursuit of technology has shifted from introspection to exploration, leading to development of space travel.
Only time, will tell whether the Orphans will achieve their stated goal. Will they find out, where their masters went? Will they be reunited with them once again, and what form will that reunion take? Only the Orphans themselves, under guidance of their High Shepherd, hold answers to this question.

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>edited files so I could make a super civ with tons of traits and ethos for funsies
>view alien species after I meet them to set their rights because I need some fuckken immigrants
>they also have a billion traits and ethos

I don't know why I didn't expect the random generator to adjust and use all the points it had available just like me, but I had a good laugh all the same.

>>173862083

I dislike this meme of coming up with an implausible scenario (biological creators have vanished) and going "inb4 anyone asks, NO-ONE KNOWS" where they went.

You had one job, write a coherant backstory, and your answer is "~Ooooo, it's a mys~teryyyy~"?

NO

the woke fallen empire must have got it's arse kicked by the other fallen empire

I'm in the process of conquering it.

I've also stolen all their tech so I now have level 5 shields, armor & power and will soon have level 2 kinetic artillery.

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>>173861103

>>173862302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3abPnEEGE

Theme song

>>173862302
You seem salty for some reason.

There's nothing implausible about it though. Either they made good on their ascension, or they fucked up and got eaten by something, or the synths wiped them out.
In any case it's not something that needs to be in this "publicly available" format of backstory.

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>>173862329
I ran away smartly, rebuilt my forces and then came back, blew up a 20k stack of theirs and all their transports, while their 80k main stack got annihilated by the neighbour FE.

how embarrassing for the woke empire, they get all gung ho about reclaiming the galaxy, then proceed to get beaten by a couple of upstart empires, start losing their fleet and will now be forced to work in the mines to benefit my race of telepathic bat like creatures.

>>173862574
>In any case it's not something that needs to be in this "publicly available" format of backstory.

I disagree.
The point of the description is to describe. Not to go "Wow, aren't I all intriguing and mysterious, can u guess my tragic backstory"

It's the Stellaris equivalent of a grill posting on Normiebook
>"OMG I cant beleeb whats happened I'm crying rite now ;__; PM me for details D:"

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>playing hive mind
>cheevos fixed
>scouting
>see Sol system
>they are in a world war
>build three armies and invade them
>win, of course
>now they are in hive mind space and are getting killed off
>create vassal state

DESPICABLE NEUTRALS

>>173862905
Did you get the Invade-Earth-During-WW2 cheevo?
It's supposedly the hardest one to get 'cos it's all unlikely RNG bases.
Jelly

>>173862904
ok, thanks for your input lad

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>>173862905
Letting a month roll over caused them to stop being despicable neutrals.

Still wondering if it's OK for a hive mind to have a vassal...

>>173862984
Hell yeah I did, I pretty much dropped everything to do it because the flavor text said that they're on the verge of discovering atomics. I didn't get the cheevo until I won the invasion, but three armies did the trick, even this early in the game. Cost 403 influence, worth every bit.

>>173863154
>Still wondering if it's OK for a hive mind to have a vassal..
Why not? I was able to use tributaries when I was a fanatic purifier.

Think of it as "i'm going to eat you last".

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>>173862648

to whoever manages the mod archive and allows poor piratecucks like me to still use mods: thank you for being so nice.

>>173863241
I've never bothered much with the various diplomatic options except Protectorate since those generate influence, so I don't really know what to expect. Apparently they will automatically fight in my wars, which is nice, but since I invaded their world to lift them into the spacefuture, they get that "stellar culture shock" modifier for ten years where they basically don't do anything because of all the penalties to everything, so it'll be a while before they are any use.

I'll keep them around, not much else I can do at this point.

>>173862905
>Battle clans
>that flag
>that leader

ok

>>173863154
>Still wondering if it's OK for a hive mind to have a vassal...

Well I think it's ridiculous that you're hard locked from having hive mind pops in a non-hive empire and vice-versa.

It's like the devs read the cliff notes for Ender's Game but missed the reveal at the end that "oh, you ARE sentient, right, got it, I <3 u now"
I have no objection to "Inter-gestalt comprehension" being a tech you can only take after finding aliens, like Xeno Integration, but to lock it off entirely until biological ascention is mad and vasselisation is the best available compromise.

My actual solution would be maybe something along the lines of
>"Non-hive species get a 40% happiness malus on hive worlds because the gestalt tends to forget little things like privacy or personal property"
and
> "Hive species get a tile resource output modifier of -90% in non-hive empires because it is very difficult to convince the gestalt to work orthogonal to its own interests"
If you wanted to be clever you could have the hive productivity change scale with the diplomatic opinion modifier between your empire and the hives', so if you're trusted allies in a war the hive pops actually DO become productive, but I have low expectations on Paradox's laziness.

>>173863851
>productivity change scale with the diplomatic opinion modifier between your empire and the hives
Tbh this should apply to ALL pops, hive or not hive.
If I'm at war with the Ix'Idar Confederation, all the Ix'Idar in my empire SHOULD be starting trouble, or at least grumbling about it.

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Guys I would like to play as Fanatic Purifiers but I've heard that alien purges unity bonus is bugged, Is it true?

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That was surprisingly easy to get working.

>>173863851
>but to lock it off entirely until biological ascention is mad
Why? Even for IRL hiveminded creatures, like ants, the species that are able to work cooperatively with non-ants, rather than vassalize or purge them, are few and far between. I think it would be a better idea to allow hiveminded empires to take a 2-point civic that allows them to have non-HM pops that /also/ suffer from heavy penalties.

>>173863684
They are kangz and shiet.

>>173863851
With a -40% happiness on non-hive and -90% productivity on hive, what's even the point of having either? The happiness malus would just cause the non-hive species to rebel forever.

In stellaris I'm a bit confuse about 'Chemical Bliss', what is it for other than roleplaying?

So I just found that 'in limbo' quest where you find a bunch of minds uploaded to a computer

I swear someone posted a solution here the other day in a way to finish the quest which brought a new race into the game, but I forgot how

>>173864195
>Acadamy
Academy, anon.

>>173864484
One way is to research all the robotics techs then upload their minds into synths.

>>173864580
Ah that makes sense thanks anon

Guess its time to research synths and just leave the quest alone

Science ship under attack

>>173864484
I think an FE can ask you for the patterns to bring those fuckers back to life.

Is there a way to find the pirates' base in the Birth of Space Piracy event by cheating or some stuff? I tried looking at systems in the direction from where the pirate fleet had come, but no luck so far.

>>173864467
>In stellaris I'm a bit confuse about 'Chemical Bliss', what is it for other than roleplaying?

supressing unrest on a new species idk

What do I do to make sure when creating sectors that they don't turn into complete retards? Should I fully develop a planet first?

>>173864653
Tile blocker cleared.

>>173864842
Anomaly found

>>173864214
>few and far between. I think it would be a better idea to allow hiveminded empires to take a 2-point civic that allows them to have non-HM pops that /also/ suffer from heavy penalties.
Well ants that have human-level intelligence are few and far between. And even they accomodate aphids in their hives.
I do not object to your civic approach. What I object to is the fact that trying to play nice is literally impossible for hiveminds, rather than just giving you the hard (or not hard, ymmv) choice between "genocidal monster" and "opportunity cost of not being a genocidal monster"

>>173864407
> With a -40% happiness on non-hive and -90% productivity on hive, what's even the point of having either?
Three reasons.
1) The diplo penalty you get as a purgey hivemind is REALLY bad. Bad enough that it may genuinely be a good strategy to host pissed off individual-os so other empires don't declare you Space Hitler
2) This is kind of a Paradrone defence, but... roleplay. Even if it's shooting yourself in the foot mechanically, it sounds like a lot of people want to play a non-killy hivemind
3) The maluses are SUPPOSED to render the pops useless, I guess. This just seems like one of those things where the game is unnecessarily railroading the player into something that could easily be accomplished by the dis-inducement that is shit yields.

>>173864580
>>173864602
Droid tech = colonize a world with 3 droids for you.
Synth tech = "Awoken" synth empire is formed.
No robotics tech is researched you can keep the data and a enigmatic observer fallen empire can contact you for the data and re-create the race. Gives you the Virgirl then Beatrice achievement.

>>173864884
You have declared war

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Time for a liberty-or-death playthrough.

>>173865151
> Raltek
Don't use a default name for your race anon. Trust me, it gets quite annoying in future games when you see new random species running around claiming to be one of your old bros.

>>173865245
Good point.

>>173864994
>And even they accomodate aphids in their hives.
Only /some/ ants do this, and even the ones that do treat aphids like tools (read: slaves) rather than a non-hiveminded part of their society. So, at best, you should be able to enslave non-hivemind pops.

Really, how could any individual creature that is not part of the hivemind function in a hivemind society as anything other than a slave? Presumably the entire society is built up upon the premise that everyone and everything has shared desires and thoughts. To take an individual agent and place it into a society where it is not part of the integral link between every other member would have to render it a tool (slave) or dead.

>>173865043
I wish player empire could re-create the species themselves once some tech prereq is met. Maybe one of the repeatable biological techs or something.

Or that you could postpone upload until you develop the synth tech. As it is now it's kinda punishment for early exploration.

On that note, can another empire investigate an anomaly if you don't investigate it, or will it just stay available forever?

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Thanks for the ships I guess but there's no need to be such a cunt

>>173865151
>hearts of men
>are actually giant birds

Why do you keep calling Empires "Factions"?

>>173864994
Well when you put it like that, that sounds fair. I'm all for options and stuff.

>>173865282
So give hive minds the ability to enslave pops.

>>173865341
>FE's bitchboy
>"Furry" species
Nah, you deserve it.

>>173865331
I tested it with all the biotechs and the two bio ascension perks along with droid tech, couldn't re-create the species.

Other empires can't investigate anomalies you find, but they can find their own anomalies. Explains why they sometimes suddenly have a cruiser or a couple high tech frigates or pirates pop up next to their science ship.

>>173865331
>can another empire investigate an anomaly if you don't investigate it, or will it just stay available forever?

It's been my experience that nobody except you can investigate your anomalies or your special projects. Unless they time out, they will hang around forever. I usually skip all early anomalies and come back to them later.

Also if upgrading your science ships takes too much time, simply build an empty science ship, send it out, and move the scientist to the new ship once it's arrived, then upgrade the old ship. As a bonus, if you have surplus science ships, you can use the time it takes to move between sectors to switch the scientist to a waiting ship hanging over an unsurveyed planet, move the now-empty ship into position, and then repeat. So you never have scientists just idling while they wait to get to the exploration.

>>173849696
Jesus that OP picture. It's like pure STUPIDITY

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>>173865341
If you edit the flag colours without changing the pattern, you get the Commonwealth of Man intro text and the Hunt for the Hyacinth colony ship mission. I like the idea of multiple human splinter colony-empires surrounding the UN of Earth empire.

>>173865282
>Really, how could any individual creature that is not part of the hivemind function in a hivemind society as anything other than a slave?
I suppose I'm imagining in my head that they wouldn't be part of "society", per se. Because, you're right, they can't be in any serious manner if they can't access the gestalt.
But it's a big jump from "Being kinda useless here and at best eating up space" and "SEND THEM TO THE BLOOD REFINERIES MY CHILDREN, KEKEKEKE"

>1.33x Default Empire. years_of_peace > 20
>1.33x Default Empire. years_of_peace > 40
>1.33x Default Empire. years_of_peace > 60
>1.33x Default Empire. years_of_peace > 80
>1.33x Default Empire. years_of_peace > 100
>Years of Peace Factors are cumulative.
Well, that explains why militarist empire slowly turns into a pacifist empire.

>>173864994
tell me about these human ants

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>>173865587
same

>>173865703

Shouldn't it be the other way for militaristic empires? Maybe add some if statements for xenophobes and bordering rivals

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>>173865743
> Tell me about these human ants
Let me sing you the song of my people

How long is the average lifespan without any modifiers?

>>173865979

About 70

>>173865842
>Taiidan
>No Kushan

Want me to hit you with this salvage corvette, faggot?

>>173865979
For humans? It's usually between 60-80 years.

>>173865979
>Each leader has an age in years, which is between 28 and 50 when they are first generated. Leaders have a default guaranteed lifespan of 72 years. Synthetics and certain other cases can make a leader immortal. There is a chance of 1% per month that has passed this of dying, checked every month, for a mean lifespan of about 69 additional months. Life expectancy can be improved by picking the traits Enduring or Venerable during species set-up and by researching certain technologies, picking certain traditions, or worsened by picking Fleeting during species set-up. Certain event resolution choices can also grant an increase in lifespan for all leaders.

>>173866007
>>173866046

Thanks

>>173857413
Combining it with the Fanatical Purifiers civic is hilarious.

>>173866038
Sure, lemme just finish burning Kharak.

>>173865393
>So give hive minds the ability to enslave pops.
I wish I could, but as far as I can tell the restriction on hiveminds are hardcoded and not something I can selectively mod out.

>>173850303
It's dad.

>>173866095
You know what this game needs?
Space borne civs.

>>173866057
>default guaranteed lifespan of 72 years

Just what I was looking for

>>173866137
It has them, they're called Unbidden

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>>173866137
I was hoping for space nomad trait / mobile space habitat planet-ships in this update.

As in a "Voidborn" trait where the civ starts off on a huge ship that functions as a space habitat, gets planetary bonus tile mods based on what's on the planet it's orbiting. It would have mobile versions of mining/research stations, mobile outposts. That civ would not be able to colonise planets though.

>>173866357
No problem, just wait for the fourth DLC, dear goy- I mean customer.

Is conformist worth it? I plan to take spiritualist already and i'm not quite sure if i understand how does the ethic attraction and factions work. Is it even something to worry about if i don't plan to integrate other species into my empire?

>>173865671
>SEND THEM TO THE BLOOD REFINERIES MY CHILDREN, KEKEKEKE
I think the "will eventually be killed and processed" thing is meant to imply that anyone or anything excluded from the hivemind will inevitably do something that results in their death. It's not like the killing is immediate.

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>>173864825

pls respond

I hate their growth system, it's so assbackwards than high population worlds grow slower.

>>173866558
Read the fucking thread, you goddamn retard. That shit is explained twice per thread.

>>173866460
Well considering I've never seen unrest DO anything except once when a freshly-conquered planet rebelled back to its former masters - and that was before I knew that armies quashed it - I would say that happiness as a whole continues to be a dump stat and therefore ethics attraction is a dump stat.

If anything it's even less important than it was in 1.4 because they've gone back to the 1.2 system of having happiness "levels" rather than a continuum of productivity increases.

>>173866623

Ctrl+F "sectors" two results, one of which is my question, other is not relevant.

>>173866754
Go blog elsewhere.

What's a optimal ratio for pop+planet and research? How fast should you finish researching a tech that has the base cost of 10000 in the 2350?

>>173866769

>asking a question is blogging

Time for your meds autist.

>>173866552
>meant to imply that anyone or anything excluded from the hivemind will inevitably do something that results in their death

I know that "realism" is not an argument in a game where cyborgs fight Slaanesh, but... I don't see why, if hive gestalt aliens defeated all the nations of the Earth tomorrow, and all the political leaders to accept "We're in your empire now", that would cause us all to inevitably die in 3 to 5 years.

>>173866847
>get rekt
>"a-autism baaaw"

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>every time I play xenophobe expansionists I'm trapped between two fallen empires that are either militant isolationists or those nigs that get mad if you purge

>>173866754
fully develop planets before putting them in sectors.

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>>173866874

>provide evidence you are wrong
>h-h-e I rekt you!1!

>>173866905
>spoonfeeding a retard
He'll never learn if you spoil him. Let him figure out for once how to Ctrl+F.

>>173866996
>Let him figure out for once how to Ctrl+F

He's right though, Ctrl+F on sectors doesn't give him any answers

>>173866875
>he STILL hasn't figured out the game always pair you with people that hate you to force conflict

The research malus for having more planets is a bit excessive, isn't it.

I get why they did it. I've played other 4x games where mass expansion=victory.
As it is, you'll get rich but you'll be dumb. It's alright but +10% to cost per planet, then increased further per population is just so brutal.

My tall empire tore through research like a motherfucker. Had practically everything researched so fucking fast. Then I started expanding and was stronkest.

>>173867051
It was explained last thread, and the thread before that, AND the thread before that.
If you don't find something in your thread, you check the last one. That's why it's in the OP.

That's common 4chan etiquette, but I guess it's asking too much from reddit to try to blend in.

>>173865151
Is that background a mod?

>>173867272
diverse rooms

>>173849696
Hi, stellaris noob here. I have some questions.
1. Should you expand fast early game and suffer some tech? If so, what is the right moment to expand (e.g once you build a planetary administration building or somwthing)?
2. Vassalize, tributary, and conquest, which is the better option?

>>173867129
Since Reddit archives all threads and actually has a search function, I think a Redditor would be more likely to ctrl+f shit up, Anon.

>>173867374
I like how you don't even try to deny your origin.

>can't be fanatical purifiers and an imperial cult at the same time
Why do paradox have to crush my dreams?

>>173867453
Which country does paradox comes from?
There is your answer.

>>173867420
I'm sorry that googling shit has occasionally led me to Reddit, Anon. I'll repent by shitposting on the furry thread on /b/ tonight.

>>173867370

1. Nothing wrong with expansion, just make sure to build two labs per planet and one per five pops so you'll keep up with the tech

2. Tributaries if you're playing tall, vassal/conquer if wide

>>173867370
I think you should reach your system cap as soon as possible, just to get pops growing. other than that you should exploit spaceborne resources. tech is important but economy is more so.

>>173867370
>1. Should you expand fast early game and suffer some tech?

Early game you have very little tech research anyway. You need to expand to gain planets, borders & orbital resources.

I pretty much always conquer. Only if I'm already bursting with planets (ie, I just finished a conquest war and just got declared on by another empire) will I bother with a non-annexation.

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>tfw 3rd playthrough
>unbidden rock up
>eh they're not that close to me I should be OK
>proceed to wreck my shit

If I kill the pylons next to me will they stop zerg rushing my side? I wasn't ready for this

>>173867521
>>173867543
>>173867562

Thanks.
One more thing.
>Nothing wrong with expansion, just make sure to build two labs per planet and one per five pops so you'll keep up with the tech
So, is it better to not specialize planets by building only research in one, minerals in another and so on?

>tfw fighting unbidden for the last 50 years
>managed to get to the portal at one point but got overwhelmed
>can't build up a big enough fleet because I have to keep fighting off their invasion force
>ate up all of my border slave worlds
>slowly but surely shrinking my empire with their nibbling
>forced to spend my ascendancy slot on defender of the galaxy

This shit better be a game changer

>>173867657
Of course not, that wouldn't be haram. Gotta make sure the poor immigrants aren't looked at funny.

>>173867676
Those portals seem to pump out a 50k fleet every couple of months. There's no way you could stand against that for long. Especially when it takes 5 1/2 months to build a battleship, at best?

>>173867653
Only if you have something that boosts production at the planetary level. Like assist research science ships, govenor that gives bonus to science or minerals. That's more midgame in my opinion.

>>173867676
what are the ascendency slots?

>>173867879
I am using the Flesh is Weak and Galactic Force Projection now anon

>>173867653

You shouldn't specialize planets early on, just build whatever's on the tile unless if the planet has like +50% minerals or +20% credits. Once you start you start racking minerals, credits and buildings / modifiers that give great boost go right ahead and replace.

>>173867980
>>173867870
Cheers lads

>>173867653
>So, is it better to not specialize planets by building only research in one, minerals in another and so on?

I generally specialise in the following order
Home Planet - Finish off with minerals, but if I get myself into an energy deficit I will swap things out.
2nd planet - energy
3rd planet - mine
4th planet - food
5th planet - energy
6th planet - science
7th planet - mine
8th - energy

Beyond that you probably wnat to specialise based on the planet itself, or if you're conquering enemy empires.

>>173868039
Thanks again

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>>173867783
For those 50 years I've been spewing ships constantly. It's mostly cruisers, I lose battleships only when nothing else is left to defend them. I've just recently found a little bit of a breathing space to upgrade them, in the meantime they glassed one of my worlds. They nibble here, nibble there and before you know it 5 of your worlds are completely exterminated.

When I try to go on the offensive they sneak by and try to glass a world. If it's not that, then I have to fight 4 of their fleets and I have to retreat and rebuild. My naval capacity is around 1100, but I can't get past 500 because of constant fighting.

>>173867879
i meant ascension perks, pic related

>>173867653

Also I should point out, you don't have to build them PER planet. Just that if you have a certain amount of pops and planets, make sure not to neglect your research.

But as said, early on the flat bonuses the tiles offer are much better (and cheaper) to build on than specialize and then wait for the proper techs to unlock.

What's the best way to optimize pop growth? Spread them equally over all your planets and have the same growth everywhere? Keep your homeworld at max and resettle a pop when it fills, while the colonies are empty and have faster growth?

>>173868152
>all that influence
Start ordering your useless populace to meet their performance targets. You need even more minerals to keep building at every spaceport in the empire.

>>173868152

Consider fortifying your border regions / important systems with forts and fight under them if you haven't already

>get mastery of nature ascendancy perk after having colonised five planets

>tile blocker cleared
>tile blocker cleared
>tile blocker cleared
>tile blocker cleared
>tile blocker cleared
>tile blocker cleared

>>173868252
I always found resettlement to be the best way. Take one pop from each world and put them on the new world. Then every planet generates a new pop at the same time, instead of one at a time on the new world.
Sadly, resettlement is expensive as fuck.

Free movement is probably best. Let the people sort it out for themselves.

>>173868252

Just allow free migration and they tend gravitate towards the less populated planets. Resettling pops is a waste of influence

>>173868252
If you're not authoritarian they just do it automatically unless you restrict migration and resettlement.

It helps to get 5 pops on your planets relatively quick so you can upgrade the shelter and start using real buildings.

>>173868337
>not just terraforming a planet for instant clearing of all tile blockers, as well as improving habitability
Waste of a perk, m8.

>>173868337
>Getting Mastery of Nature
I hope you're roleplaying, anon.

In one of my earliest Stellaris games, just after release, I surveyed an ocean world and discovered there was an ancient algae lifeform on it called "the Ancient One" that communicated telepathically and invited me to colonise the world, even adding a world modifier. Unfortunately my save corrupted and I've never encountered it again.

Anyone know if anything more happens with that?

>>173868382
>>173868407
I can't set it to free because of the caste system.

>>173868418
I think I'll just do that and stop spreading pops once there's 5 on the new places.

What if sectors cancelled out the research negative for planets in those sectors?

Could make them actually useful. Could make them essential, even.

>>173868298
>>173868326
Defender of the Galaxy makes you fleet cut through them like butter with minimal loses, I guess it's time for a galactic crusade.

Increasing my mining output is alright, but I'd still need at least 20-30 years to build up high enough and with a lot of micromanagement involved too.

Fortifying borders is impossible, I tried building up 8 fortresses in a border world they invaded a lot. There's not enough time to set up and they can just decide to jump over that world.

>>173868545
Then you're fucked. It'll be too expensive to resettle them because authoritarians get absolutely fuck all in the way of influence.

It's backwards as fuck. Democracies are absolutely rolling in influence and they don't even need it. Authoritarians desperately need it but can't generate any of it. Fucking paradox.

>>173868543
The planet gains society research on some of its tiles, or turns toxic, or your scientists gains the paranoid trait, or psionics. Depends on what you choose and what your scientist has.

>>173868583
Would be kind of broken since they still give full research.

Sectors would be fine if the AI developed them right. A bandaid fix for paradox's shitty AI isn't the solution when they should just fix the AI.

>>173868636
>they can just decide to jump over that world.
Subspace Snares should really extend out onto the galaxy map. So if a fleet tries to jump over a system with a fort in it, they'll be pulled out early and dumped straight in that system.

>>173868646
Pft, I could always give them full citizenships and migration rights.
It's only +10% mineral and +10% food, after all... I didn't take the slaving guilds civics.

>>173868909
Do that and your civilisation will start turning egalitarian. Gotta enslave someone, first.

But then moving the fucking slaves around because very influence-expensive.
I bred a perfect slave race for one of my empires, all the bonuses to mineral production they could get, and then I couldn't afford to move them around the damn empire. I was hoping to breed specialised slaves but the resettlement cost fucked that right in the ass.

>>173868752
oh ok. I settled it but I guess it was before that happened. thanks anon!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/616560/
Thoughts?

>>173869136
It's basically a proof of concept tech demo that can be used for something else. It's about as much a game on its own as space engine.

>>173869136
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/616560/
says simulator right there. How is this 4x?

>>173869259
Come on, aren't you excited at least one bit?
But yeah, it is just a tech demo.


Also,
>retard can't read the OP

>>173849696
>stellaris mod archive
>literally no explanation or description of what any of these mods do
Wow, great jobs guys.

>>173869485
>woah, I could help, but instead I'll just cry like a little bitch
>that'll show them!

>Democracies no longer gain influence from mandates, but get bonuses when a mandate is completed that match the type of mandate it was
>Egalitarians gain bonus influence from factions as they do currently.
>Authoritarians spend less influence for actions, colonization, and construction of frontier outposts.

Hire me paradox

>>173869342

>This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).

What are some comfy space films to watch while playing stellaris? So far I've got:

>Alien 1&2
>Starship Troopers
>Event Horizon

>>173869892
How the fuck are any of those (except maybe Starship Troopers) comfy?

so guys whats your favourite race build in stellaris and general strategy in the beginning with it?

>>173869892
Galaxy quest

>>173869892
Life Force

So the unbidden just popped up with no warning in my space.

Fun times.

Disrupting my plans to conquer the holy guardian fallen empire who are guarding holy gaia worlds.

>>173869892
predator, star wars, star trek, theres a 30 min warhammer movie.

>>173870019
Fanatic spiritualist egalitarian megacorporation. Psychic Ferengi on crack

>>173869892
>alien 2
>event horizon
>"comfy"

>>173869006
>23% attraction to egalitarian
why
My ethics are authoritarian, materialist and pacisift, where does the attraction to egalitarian come from?
I'll just reload to before getting rid of the caste system, fucking hell.

>>173867064
this, started next to slavers with my librators

>>173870009
>>173870152

>being a big baby

>>173870024
>>173870082

looks interesting

>>173870118
>theres a 30 min warhammer movie

Cool, what's it called?

>>173849696
>>173859957
I'm almost certain that's anti-hippy propaganda endorsed by the US military or some shit.

>build research nexus
>expecting great big research bonuses like +150 to everything and a 20% research speed boost
>finally finish this amazing, expensive megastructure
>+50 to all sciences
>nothing else
>can't even assist research on it
I get more out of my fucking habitats.

>>173869892
Ender’s Game

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This is going to make it difficult to go synthetic evolution, isn't it. All I want to do is test out a mod without resorting to cheats.

>>173869892
Star Trek TNG is on Netflix.

Also, 2001 and Treasure Planet if you want a light hearted space fantasy film.

>>173870339
>enders game
What if we all have incredible magical powers and every time anyone plays any videogame, it's really happening on some other planet/galaxy/dimension.
All the xenos across the infinite multiverse that have been purged, just for fun because we didn't realise what was really going on.

>>173870321

Are Habitats worth it to build for science?

Is it possible to terraform a planet after living things touch the surface? Like evacuate them off world for a few years?

>>173869892
I just realised that Event Horizon is the film which replaced the Union Flag with the Abbo rag on the Australian flag.

>>173870504
Habitats are absolutely great for two things: Energy production and science production. A full solar habitat will make around 130 energy due to their special +10 energy building while a full science habitat will make around 50 science before Assist due to the +3 all three sciences building. When you get to Habitats and want to min-max hard, use habitats as energy and science production areas while converting your planets into either farming planets or pure mineral production planets.

>>173870519
Sorta. If you have all the influence in the world you can move the people off the planet and build droids on it. Then ban AIs to disassemble the droids to abandon the planet.

>>173870680

That sounds delicious, too bad I have several research-intensive planets which means a lot of replacing, but there's nothing I wouldn't do for science. Anything else I should know about Habitats? What's a good spot to build them on / are there limitations?

>>173870504
It seems like it, to me.
Pretty expensive to set up and I think I only got that much out of them because I had a synth race.

Haven't crunched the numbers, though, so can't be sure. Would need some genius savant-level motherfucker to do that.

>>173870161
>My ethics are authoritarian, materialist and pacisift, where does the attraction to egalitarian come from?
> Country 2.00 Progressive Faction but not any Egalitarian Ethics
>Country 1.50 Ruler is Leader of Progressive Faction
>Country 0.75 Default country and no Elections
>Country 1.25 Default Country and Democratic Elections
>Country 1.50 In Defense Pact or Federation with Egalitarian
>Country 2.00 Any Egalitarian Empire has Migration Access
>Pop 0.50 Has Decadent.png Decadent Trait
>Pop 1.50 Citizenship is neither Full nor Caste
>Pop 4.00 Is Enslaved
>Pop 1.50 Not Enslaved, but another Pop Enslaved
>Pop 1.50 Good or Utopian Living Standarts
Egalitarianism just happens because of several factors.

>>173870731
Dose poor robots.

>>173870236
>Cool, what's it called?
Bad