/pg/ - Persona General

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>Fanart of Makoto beating the shit out of martial artist wannabe Chie when?

>>173795460
>Makoto>Hifumi>Tae=Kawakami>Haru>Futuba
I find this acceptable.

What is the best party for Merciless and just below?

Was Iwai missing a finger? I know he was Ex Yakuza but I didnt notice

>Catherine stage theme fits battles more than last surprise

hmmm

>>173795615
>not having them team up

shit taste

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IMPORTANT POLL
http://www.strawpoll.me/12729889
http://www.strawpoll.me/12729889
http://www.strawpoll.me/12729889

>>173795460
Where is the Yuki picture

>>173795615
Makoto has no passion in her life unlike Chie, Chie wins through the power of friendship

>>173795682

>Munehisa not winning

What the fuck, he is literally Jason Statham.

>>173795460
>Haru above anybody

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So best XP Farming = Reaper on Flu days and best Money Farming is Confusing Mementos Bosses?. Miss anything else?

>>173795662
but the smtiv battle theme is the best

>>173795793
Oh Anon, have you not seen Sojiro?

>>173795762
>Makoto has no passion in her life

Except being a police commissioner to help people and continue her father's legacy.

>>173795797
Someone who did not manage to max Harus Coop line spotted

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>>173795460
Which is best P5 girl?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12731973

Dungeon time, faggots. Give best and worst for

>Aestetics
>Music
>Theme
>"Puzzles"
>Boss
>Fun

>Casino with Museum honorable mention
>Casino
>Spaceship
>Lol
>Boat
>Casino
Sorry, but dungeon 5 is just so fucking stylish I can't not love it

>>173795846
This sounds about right to me

I heard flu days aren't 'til November though.

>>173795951
>muh vocals
>muh casino has good aesthetics despite those awful blue corridors
Go away

>Futaba's position hacking skill where you just skip straight to the all-out attack
Christ I cannot stand how doing the social links just totally destroys the challenge and enjoyment of the battle system over time by making it way too easy. If I bump it up to Challenge mode from here it's just going to be more of a slog though.

>>173795630
>>173795460
Kawakami >= Tae > Makoto > Hifumi > Ann(e) > Haru >>> Ohya = Chihaya
Futaba is just too imouto to sexual for me

>>173795951
Whims of Fate is garbage

>>173795951
>>Aestetics
Cruise
>>Music
Casino
>>Theme
Casino
>>"Puzzles"
Hardest? I guess bank
>>Boss
Shido
>>Fun
Casino

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I swear to God, Nanako better be a romance option in P6. I wanna see grown-up Nanako with a brother complex get attached to the P6 MC since he reminds her of Yu Narukami, resulting in the two fucking like rabbits.

>>173795951
Museum
Museum
Bank or Pyramid
Museum
Boat
Pyramid

>>173796142
Nah anon, Its pretty good

>>173796093

Golden Rise was the same way.

Better than being totally useless...But still.

>>173796157
DELETE YOURSELF

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>>173796157
>Nanako
>anything sexual

>>173796157

Nanako is not for lewd

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>>173795863
Makoto didn't ask for this, chie has the pure will to survive and will pull through every time

>>173796225
Music itself isn't that bad but vocals ruin it

Now that the dust has settled, are we in agreement that Chie and Naoto we're good girls stuck in a shitty game?

>>173796041
Hey, if you don't like it, more power to you. Share your taste

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>>173796157
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>>173796273
>>173796275

>>173796364
No, Chie was 3rd worst girl

>>173796364

>Now that the dust has settled

The dust had settled almost 9 years ago anon

>>173796352
I can see how the vocals would annoy you. Yet i really like them.

is mind charge ever good? spells are just for weakness rather use charge for everything else

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>>173796364
>Chie
>Good girl
No.

>>173796364
chie is awful dude

>>173795951
Cruise
Bank
Prison
Pyramid
Cruise
Pyramid

>>173796471
>>173796491
>>173796512
>>173796525
kys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukSVxgsQkg

Best track of the game

>>173796364
Party girls:
Mitsuru > Fuuka > Aegis > Yukari
Yukiko > Naoto > Rise > Chie
Makoto > Haru > Ann > Futaba

When can I buy the SMTIV costume set?

I want to show the shadows how my demons are a little different, because such is a Samurai's skill.

>>173796578
10/10 taste anon

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>>173796434
stop

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RyujiXAnn best ship!

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He's right you know.

>>173796578
That's not Life Will Change though
Hell, it's not even Whims of Fate
It IS, however, pretty top tier taste

>>173796697
All the villains were "right", such is the sad state of our world.

I personally would have sided with Shido had it been an option

>>173796712
>He fell for the vocals automatically make a song good meme
No. Life Will Change and a Rivers are great, but Whims of Fate is shit.

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>>173795460
goddamn it, i'm level 25 and just starting the bank, but i can't grind at all. I keep instakilling and getting "YOU ALREADY HAVE THIS MASK"

How the hell are you supposed to level up after the insta-kill ability from a teammate is activated? It literally makes you weaker! This is a horrible fucking design. Why can't I get experience from instakill?

>>173796157
>>173796238
>>173796273
>>173796275
>>173796691
https://cs.sankakucomplex.com/data/c3/e7/c3e7e3b3db4b04a6ee256b2b97823d41.png?5071282

>>173796837
how did you get instakill at the bank? did you bumrush s links like a retard?

>>173796821
Says you, anon; that's a little something called opinions, you should try seeing a few different ones sometime

>Gamer mementos request
>Go to boss battle
>"We gotta go back to the real world so we can actually beat him"

Fuck you

>>173795951
Best Aesthetics: I have to say the Casino. It's vibrant and flashy, almost like you're always on stage and the spotlight's on you.
Best Music: Again, the Casino. SO WE ROLL THE DICE
Best Theme: The Pyramid. The music's nice and it's... well, very Egyptian. The segment at the end where it looks more technological is also cool.
Best Puzzles: The Museum. You had to pay attention to the details and stuff like the end segment where the location was warped and the painting segment was pretty cool.
Best Boss: Goddamnit I can't keep choosing the Casino but I have to, Shadow Sae was a joy to fight just in terms of atmosphere and tension.
Most Fun: The Museum. That's when the Phantom Thieves really decided to make a name for themselves, saved a weird but poor artist kid, and the boss wasn't too bad.

Worst everything: Mementos, it's just fucking Tartarus 2.0. It's just a means to grind, and on that end it's fine, but it's just so boring. Mementos Depths is just as bad since it's also monotonous and it has floor puzzles that are just the Sootopolis Gym all over again.

In my opinion to be honest.

>>173796837
>>173796934
Can you turn this off or do you need to just not do Ryuji's slink?

>>173796821
I disagree

>>173796837
>level 25
>just starting the bank
Literally what the fuck is wrong with you. You're barely meant to finish the bank at that level. The instant kill skill only happens when they're 10 levels below you. You aren't meant to grind in this game dipshit.
If you're that desperate, stop abusing enemies; the instant kills only happen then, and you get more exp from non-ambush fights anyway.

>SASUGA
>WOO, JOKAH KAKOII
>S-S-SASUGA
>YOSH!

Jesus nips need to broaden their vocab

>>173797013
Your post reads like something an autistic neogaf faggot would type. Stop that. Shit opinions too Tbh.

>August
>have literally never had to pay late fees for a DVD

????

So how long is the space station? I just got to the airlock puzzle and it feels like this place is endless. Also its music is shit.

>>173797170
i really like shido palace and its theme

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>>173795904
>7 people voted for Morgana in this poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12672499/r
>7 people didn't realize that Morgana has a penis

>>173797217
One more airlock puzzle and I think that's it.

>>173797280

Same here friend

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What are the best end game physical skills I should be using if I don't want to meme the game with Swiftstrike/Hassou Tobi?

This butt is my offering.

>>173796796

Shido literally had no excuse. He was just an elitist prick who thought he was better than everyone, and all his political speeches and posturing was just bluster. His palace being the whole country flooded and destroyed means that deep down he just wanted to keep his rich buddies living it up and screwing everyone else.

Besides the fact that siding with Shido would have been a stupid option for anyone with an inkling of self preservation, giving that he admitted he wasn't going to let anyone that could be a political inconveience to him live and has a habit of stabbing his allies in the back.

Why would he not just have Joker eliminated when he didn't need him anymore like he was going to for Goro.

>>173797170
Just in my opinion imo to be honest Tbh.

You're crafting lockpicks.
Do you reload for 3 minutes until you get that bonus point?
Do you settle for 2 points instead?

Which is more fun?

>>173797354
Really? Thank god, I really don't like this dungeon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2FXO9f2IdY
Now that the dust has settled, what's the verdict on it?

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Does anyone know the exact amount of exp and money increase the dlc accessories give you?

>>173797480
Are you going for an autistic all slinks/trophies in one run? Reload.

>>173797532
Good and suits the fight
Not amazing but that's what Our Beginning is for

>>173797393
I find that Charge + Agneyastra works great for AoE, and if you're good with high-fives the physucals that get the boost become stronk af

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>>173796934
I'm already rank 9 with Ryuji, why the fuck would the game PUNISH YOU for getting higher social links? You'd get them sooner or later, so why have one that inherently inhibits you from gaining the most important aspect of the game for 3/4 of your team at all times, experience?

>>173797042
I'm not sure, but since he got that ability, I can't not instakill on ambush

>>173797059
I always grind a little so that I be assured I don't have to make another trip to dungeon, thats what i've always done in Persona or SMT game.

Why would you not ambush, otherwise get kicked out of the building after 7 non-ambushes.

And considering how low the enemy count is, why would you not want to grind given the low experience it grants?

>Joker cleared of crimes
>gets to live with his magic cat friend
>only an hour away from his eight girlfriends and in some cases even benefits from an LDR (Sensei)

the ending is so pleasant it's almost stupid

>>173797480
>Make lockpicks at the start of the game
>Get 2 and "enough time to make a 3rd" multiple times

>Make lockpicks later
>Get 1 lockpick and enough time to make 1 more
Yeah, nah. Reload.

Ryuji is Cancer.

>>173797654
You can attack enemies without an ambush without the alert radar going up retard. And holy shit don't give me that excuse, you're grinding because you're garbage at the game. Quit your whining, the mechanic doesn't do jack shit to the average non retard player.

>>173797651
Thank you.

>>173797705
>You can go to the same college as Makoto
>Bumpkin goes with you because she's a drifter

I really like these kinds of things, it makes the romance more than just an extra, gives it future. P4 was awful with this.

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>>173795682
>Iwai on top
Just as it should be

>>173797764
Yes we know. I really wish they'd been more specific than just star signs and given us birthdays though to be honest.

So Iwai is undercover Junpei feeding you guns because he can't interfere himself, right?

>>173797532
it fits the fight which is what is important, a dramatic and sudden confrontation with the mastermind behind everything. Battle for Everyone's Souls is still the best but half of that is due to the great build-up to the fight taking place during the most atmospheric month in the game.

>>173797870
yeah, P4 just felt like you'd never see any of them ever again

>>173797764
Best boys ranking

Goro>Yusuke>Sojiro>Iwai>Ryuji>Yoshida>Mishima

>>173797705

But he'll always have to live with the pain of not being able to save his best buddy Goro.

Persona 5 Arena, Persona 5 Dancing All Night, and Persona 5 Q When?

>>173798149
You mean that dude he took on a ruse cruise for half a year?

>>173798151
i dont mind pq with p5 cast i mean i love interaction between p3 and p4 cast and adding p5 would just be even more awesome

Post Makoto's birthing hips

>>173797532
It's a dollar store https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgh6JJ1R20

>>173798220
STOP

>>173794485
I love P2 to bits but the gameplay is weak

>>173798147
Yusuke > Goro > Sojiro > Iwai > Yoshida >> Morgana >> Ryuji >>...>> Mishima

>>173798151
Arena never since it's supposed to be canon and just flanderizes everyone.

>>173798251

You should hate it since Atlus has proven they will meme up and ruin the cast in every spinoff, and the spinoffs become canon so your favorite characters are eternally bastardized.

>>173797939
>>173795682
I'm not saying they designed Iwai as gaybait but
>muscular man
>grizzled look
>seemingly single father
>gruff with a sensitive side
>goes on a date with you to the park and gives you a swan boat

I'd totally date him if they ever did a bosexual persona protag

no homo

>>173798251
How do we reduce the Phantom Thieves into a single character trait each?

Ryuji will be brash and swear a lot, Yusuke will be weird and artsy, Futaba will be geek stereotype...

I'd be hard pressed to imagine how Akechi, Makoto, Ann, and the protagonist will be reduced to.

>>173798220

The ruse was only for the last few weeks. They didn't realize Goro trying to screw them until he'd joined them.

Until then he presumably was buddies with the guy given that he keeps showing up and being friendly no matter what you say.

>>173798147
>>173798352
Whats the deal with mishima? why is he so hated?

>>173798379
What good character in 3 or 4 was subsequently ruined in Arena or Dancing?

Q doesn't count

>>173798147
Good taste anon

Who keep adding fuel into the heater?

>>173798440
Anne will just fawn over sweets/cake and act sexy.

>>173798503
Have you... not played the game? Mishima is meant to be bullied.

He's a selfish asshole who uses the Phantom Thieves for his own gain.

>>173797983
>Battle for Everyone's Souls
Is also my favorite, but the reason why its best is because its an 'epic' version of Poem of Everyone's Souls.

>>173798503
It's just a bunch of retards who didn't get past rank 6 if his Confidant. Ignore them.

>>173798440

Ryuji will be as retarded as they made Kanji in Arena.
Yusuke will be full on artsy homosexual.
Futaba will talk in memes.
Makoto's spastic and violent tendencies will be played up to the point of her having a split personality.
Ann will basically be Yukari 2.0.
Akechi will be gay and evil.
Joker will be flamboyant as fuck.

>>173798568
I'm playing it right now. I just haven't really done his s-link.

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>>173798440
There is that one fan art that pretty much shows this. Anyway, Makoto will probably be similar to what she is in the p5 comic anthology. As for Haru, she'll be a vegetable geek and Ann will keep being the hot blondie.

>>173798632
Perfect, that's everyone.

>>173798503
He's some selfish loser asshole who bites off the Phantoms for money and fame

>>173798440
Ryuji will be a dumb thug.
Ann will be a dumb blonde + food stuff.
Yusuke will be a cloudcuckoolander.
Makoto will be the strict, no nonsense, no fun allowed student council president.
Futaba will be :D >:C

>>173798440
I think the worst that can be possibly done to the cast is Ryuji swearing a lot more and Yusuke saying less normal things

It seems rather difficult to fuck up the P5 cast as they are pretty layered

>>173798440
>Makoto
muh strategery

>Akechi
MAXIMUM EDGE

>P5tag
muh ruse (alternatively: muh smug)

>Ann
I eat and eat, why don't I get fat?

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>>173798440
Makoto will be the:
"Nicest person you've ever met, and, TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH"
one

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>>173796837
fucking retard already ruined the game for yourself grinding that much

Mishima

is a selfish

JERK!

Does this game have less personas to fuse than earlier games or am I just imagining things?

>>173798418
If he was purposefully designed as gaybait then they did well.

Something like Akechi and Yusuke are perfect examples of obvious Fujobaits, but it's hard to tell with gaybaits, especially because of the whole 2 horny and forceful gay stereotypes in Shinjuku exists.

>>173798751
>Protag
Lelouch

You know this is true.

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>>173798790

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>>173797820
game auto-ambushes if the enemy isn't aware of you or you're behind them and press the attack button, so more often than not it'll just instakill them.

And not ambushing them leaves them a chance to attack before my slower party members, which I don't like when angels are running hama so why would i want to run the chance of both taking damage or getting instakilled myself?

And how is it garbage to want to make yourself able to clear the dungeon in one go? I want to maximize my time for taking care of my human parameters and social link to get strong for later dungeons as well as getting Temperance maxed.

The mechanic is terrible and you aren't aware of its curse until you have it and then there is nothing you can do about it.

It inherently punishing playing the game right by getting social links up, by trying to get more experience, and by trying to maximize your time.

>>173798531
Not him, but Chie and Akihiko got it pretty rough in the spin offs.

>>173798843
Lelouch would be more like Goro

/r/ing smug JOKA after he gets suicided

>morgana fades away with the rest of it

FUCK OFF JAPAN

EVERY GODDAMN TIME WITH THIS SHIT

>>173798004
>yeah, P4 just felt like you'd never see any of them ever again
And its fucking stupid he returns after 2months for Arena then returns again for Golden epilogue.

>>173798984
He comes back, don't worry.

>>173798531

Dancing actually had the characters on point.

The plot was just pants on head retarded.

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I still think this is the best Persona OP so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D07mro7NOkA

>>173798296
Gameplay is irrelevant in Persona

>>173799001
I always wondered why brotag didn't just ask his parents if he could stay.

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>>173798531
Akihiko.

>>173799026
Explain.

>>173799073
it's shit

>>173799134
The characters in DAN are much better written than in PQ or Arena, the plot itself is just a wacky mess.

>>173799073
it's shit (2)

>>173795615
>fanart of cop Chie bullying criminal Ryuji

>fanart of Ryuji and Joker catching Officer Satonaka by surprise and bullying her instead

>fanart of Uehara and Takemi comforting each other over the loss of a patient

>fanart of Nanako and Shinya playing video games and holding hands bashfully

>fanart of Mitsuru and Haru having tea together and discussing how to use their massive fortunes to best fight shadows and help other young women escape from arranged marriages

>fanart of Kanji knitting sweaters for Morgana and talking about how weird girls are

>fanart of Aigis being Mishima's robowaifu and helping him talk to girls

>fanart of Rise talking about showbiz with Ann

>fanart of Akihiko teaching Makoto self-defence

>fanart of Futaba and Naoto teaming up as private investigators

>fanart of Yusuke helping design costumes and promos for Teddie, then having private meetings with Yosuke that are totally business related and not homo in the slightest

>fanart of Yu and Sae bitching about how tough it is being the strong responsible one all the time for their annoying stupid bratty little sisters, but also their little sisters are the best people in the whole world and they love them so much

>fanart of Sojiro giving cooking lessons to Yukiko, giving her the tough criticism mixed with genuine support that she needs

>fanart of Adachi watching the exploits of the Phantom Thieves, giving him the the final inspiration to turn chaotic good and giving him a positive outlet to channel his dissatisfaction with the world

>fanart of the Investigation Team and the Dojimas helping Goro get redeemed by showing the true power of friendship and family

>>173799134

Everybody is acting as they should as a natural progression of the epilogue(sans the contrived "back to old appearance shtick". None of their quirks are played with, with the only mention of meat and Chie being in the special "prologue" episode where she complains about being "the meat girl now"

The younger kids even want to go off on their own team to prove that they can do shit without "Muh Senpai"

If there's one thing that can be said about DAN, it's that they handled the characters well.

>>173799073

No this is the best Persona opening, and it's not even from one of the games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm-WORKaOEc

>>173799112
Now that I think about it, him going to Inaba is fucking stupid. He transfer a lot because of his parent's work so why not make him stay in Inaba until he graduates?

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Post the Persona you always make an effort to max out /pg/.

>>173799073
Man , I wish the franchise had anime cutscenes half as good as this.

>>173799409
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxNAwZ-A88w

>>173799415
It really is dumb. I would think his parents would just let Dojima take care of him.

Have the always called rank 10 a blood vow

It doesn't fit into the meter of "I am thou Thou art I" at all

>>173798503
/pg/ hates anyone who reminds them of themselves

1st dungeon: Basic tier skills
2nd dungeon: Basic tier skills, Ma- skills
3rd dungeon: Mid tier skills, Ma- skills
4th dungeon: Mid tier skills, mid tier Ma- skills
5th dungeon: Mid tier skills, mid tier Ma- skills
6th dungeon: -dyne tier skills, Ma- -dyne skills
7th dungeon: -dyne tier skills, Ma- -dyne skills
8th dungeon: Severe and stronger tier skills, Ma- -dyne skills

Yes?

>>173798881
You have to grind over ten levels above the dungeon to even trigger an instakill

If it's happening then the area is too easy for you.

It's a great ability, designed to save time in those shitty mentos floors way under your level

>>173799602
I don't hate Futaba.

>>173798745
Eh it's that hard
Ryuji becomes spinoff Kanji-level retarded and swears in almost every sentence
Ann becomes a braindead ditz who is a constant source of fanservice
Morgana yells about how incompetent and stupid everybody but him is, especially Ryuji, all the time, and is obsessed with treasure
Yusuke is a fullblown autistic fool that mumbles about art while something deathly serious is happening
Makoto acts nice and quiet and then randomly breaks into full BDSM personality and the men always snap to attention and are afraid of her
Futaba speaks in nothing but memes and says emoticons and acronyms out loud
Haru is shy and quiet but shows streaks of a sadistic side
Goro (if he comes back) has a heated and tense relationship with everybody but constantly lapses into his sad lonely boy status and everyone pities him

>>173799602
I don't hate Morgana.

>>173799282
>then having private meetings with Yosuke that are totally business related and not homo in the slightest
Disgusting

>>173799528

That's not even the best op from that iteration in the series, let alone the best of all of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icol0dtcxnU

>>173798607
>If someone's a dweeb for 60% of his story and 80% of his relevant scenes in the main story then he can't be bad because it's not 100% of the time!

>>173799649
Severes take way too much SP, even with nicotine patch accessory; keep a few single targets for bosses; physicals are fine if you run a aoe healer

>>173799816
It's as if the whole fucking point of his character is that turnaround where he redeems himself. You are fucking retarded.

>>173799748
not that hard*

>>173799565
Probably has to do with Japan's obsession over the nuclear family being the only socially acceptable way to raise kids. Most Westerners thought the P4 Temperance SLink was retarded, but raising someone else's kid is a huge fucking deal, it would reflect badly on Yu and his entire family.

>>173799090
Gameplay's the main reason why I like this over the last two

Actually having decent characters is a secondary concern

I actually want spinoffs/directors cut of the game because a lot of the fluff events like the school trip are kind of played off as disappointing or not as great as they could be to serve the plot well

It would be nice of we got a few months after Joker got out of jail for the gang to actually cut loose

>>173799748
How is Haru sadistic? I haven't seen any signs of that

Can any of these guys beat Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku

>>173799908
While this is true, it's pretty hard not to dislike his big headedness and general thirst, to the point you don't really care about his comeback.

I only did his slink because of the bonuses.

>>173799947
>muh social interactions
Go play P4

>>173799026
>The plot was just pants on head retarded.
>>173799220
>the plot itself is just a wacky mess.
I didn't feel like the plot was retarded desu, if anything it was really predictable with some darker themes, and that darker stuff was the only thing I didn't see coming.

>>173799748
>Ryuji becomes spinoff Kanji-level retarded and swears in almost every sentence

So basically the same, but with more swearing.

>Ann becomes a braindead ditz who is a constant source of fanservice
Literally the same.
>Morgana yells about how incompetent and stupid everybody but him is, especially Ryuji, all the time, and is obsessed with treasure

So, still the same.
>Yusuke is a fullblown autistic fool that mumbles about art while something deathly serious is happening

So, basically the same.
>Makoto acts nice and quiet and then randomly breaks into full BDSM personality and the men always snap to attention and are afraid of her
>Futaba speaks in nothing but memes and says emoticons and acronyms out loud

Pretty close
>Haru is shy and quiet but shows streaks of a sadistic side
Same
>Goro (if he comes back) has a heated and tense relationship with everybody but constantly lapses into his sad lonely boy status and everyone pities him

So, basically the same.

I see what you're doing anon.

10/10

>>173798251

I can't help but feel that it would be like how Goro treats the thieves initially, only they'd actually mean it. Ie "Using Persona power to change people is wrong. Not living in a small town where everyone loves each other/having the backing of a major coorperation with more money than god isn't an excuse."

>>173799936
Ah, I Guess I'm just not well versed in Japanese social politics.

>>173799908
I don't care if he redeems himself when it means that I have to put up with a fucking awful character for the majority of the game

>>173800101
(You)

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I don't find myself interested in any of these girls

Anyone have a picture of Akechi's dancing outfit?

>>173800064

I mean, it was good for what it is, being a rythmn game and all, and it did pretty well within the rules established. and yes, there actually were some pretty dark themes touched upon there.

So maybe "Retarded" is a bad word, but it was definitely silly.

>>173799721
Exactly, Futaba's a girl so she gets a free pass on being a pathetic antisocial weakling because that increases the illusion that you can fuck her. Mishima's ten times better than Futaba, but he's male and any male Persona character that doesn't fuck a million chicks is hated by the retards who only see these games as alpha simulators.

P6 should just take out romances altogether, they're attracting the most pathetic and degenerate audiences who only care about pretending to have sex. This franchise deserves better.

>>173800063
you get ONE (You)

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Like with sincerity, did ATLUS extensively visit 4chan when localizing P5? I swear those anon messages in loading and some characters use every meme word this site uses, outdated or not.

>>173797302
>has penis therefore not a girl
what year do you think this is?

is there time to do many more confidants after Shido's dungeon?

I've got futaba, sojiro and yusuke at 8 and I've got about 16 more days to go. Hopefully it's enough time, but I also have to go to Mementos to progress both futaba and sojiro.

>dancing all night tackles some dark themes
Just when I thought /pg/ couldn't get any more retarded

Man, those All-out attack finishers are fucking awesome. I wonder what P3/4 cast would be like.

>>173800357
Dont worry you have enough time

>>173800274

I mean, stuff like Eriko and Maki were fine enough. because it was actually a part of the plot.

2 started this trend of alpha simulation degeneration though

>>173800397
>HEY GUYS LOOK I DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME

>>173799936

Yu was 17 by then though, basically already grown. Needing a legal adult as his guardian was a technicality.

It's different with the Temperance kid, since he's still a little kid that actually needs mothering.

Reminder that Joker is objectively the strongest persona user in the franchise and there is nothing P3fags can do about it.

>>173800332
4chan invented Kek after all

>>173800332
>kek
4chan is the only place I've seen that shit.

>>173800465
>hey lol if we put someone killing themselves it is automatically tackling dark themes even if it isn't at all

>>173800397
Exploitation in the entertainment industry and such is a dark theme.

It's just..put in a game where you kill eldritch horrors with dancing.

>>173800513
>>173800532

not sure if you guys are kidding or retarded but kek comes from warcraft

>>173800332
The Phan site is probably an anonymous image board desu.

>>173800465
It's a game about fucking dancing

How the fuck is that dark

>>173800513
>>173800532
underage trumpsters

>>173800532
I saw kek for the first time in 1998 my man.

>>173800332
the rest of the internet steals our memes, anon

>>173800504
But Universe arcana man

>>173800661
Oh sorry I wasn't born then

why does it take so fucking long to rank up with Sojiro Sakura?
Am I missing something?

>>173800592
But it was popularized here.

>>173800707
Just keep at it, anon! Spend as much time as you can with him and he'll rank up soon.

>>173800707
>Am I missing something?
Yes, Futaba

>>173800689
MC is a door and Joker has lockpicks.

>>173800707

if you wait til later in the game, he becomes nicer and you'll get more points (i.e. 2 instead of 1 when you hang out with him)

People don't hate on Mishima because he isn't an alpha.

People hate on Mishima because he is the definition of pathetic and spineless. The guy has a titanic inferiority complex but then the second he gets the tiniest nugget of power he goes overboard, making him out to be on the same level as you because he runs a fucking fansite, talking to you like you're equals and he's part of your world when he's not and acting like you owe him when he can't talk to ANYONE else. And then he cannot even handle the responsibility of running 4chan and becomes corrupt and power-mad. It's really sad. He is no different from Kamoshida or Kaneshiro except those guys actually had power while Mishima is literally a janitor who does it for free.

That's why Mishima gets shat on, because he is a worm clinging onto your coattails and he doesn't know his fucking place, and the moment you show him kindness he abuses it and your trust.

>>173800592
How often have you seen it in use outside the context of WoW other than 4chan after it became commonplace

>>173800181
What are you doing here, demi? Leave the embryon alone.

>>173800707
People seem to think you have to make coffee

I've spent about 10-15k on fortune teller for him but I had the Hawaii trip so I dunno if it worked for the rankup

>>173800721
>>173800787
not an argument

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>>173800612
What board would Mishima frequent here?

>>173800771
I mean, he is basically moot.

>>173800504
>Joker is objectively the strongest persona user
I agree, I even think (Yu) is stronger than Doorman.

P3MC turns into a door not even sealing Nyx but just separating it from Erebus.
P4MC actually defeats Izanami and not die, but Izanami is still alive.
Joker fucking shoots god in the face with Tengen Toppa Arsene.

>>173798440
>into a single character trait each
>brash and swear a lot
>weird and artsy
>single trait

>>173800397
anon it literally starts with a teenage idol hanging herself

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>>173800771
And then he also apologizes and redeems himself but it's okay to ignore that. Nothing of value is posted here anyway.

Goro keeps making me hungry for pancakes

>>173800854
He'd be the /sp/ mod

DOING IT FOR FREE

>>173800863
>I agree, I even think (Yu) is stronger than Doorman.
Retard.

Izanami is not on the same level as Nyx, nigger.

what's the worst S.Link and why is it Devil

Is Goro REALLY a Wild Card

>>173800861
Hiroshimoot* since Mishima also stole money from the Phandom.

>>173800863
I agree that locking a B-grade villain like erebus is pretty unimpressive.

That said, "Izanami" does die from the friendship laser, her power just goes to the other half, Marie. No?

>>173800986
bonuses wise it's the worst

hifumi's is fucking boring though

>>173801032
And then almost instantly gave it back

>>173801047
>Charm +3 at a point in the game when you want to max charm ASAP
>bad

>>173800896
He only said that shit because he was cornered into saying so by joker

>>173800532
It was all over the place around 2004-2005 because of World of Warcraft

>>173798440

Protag will be Lelouch levels of over the top epic smugness for every thing, no matter how minor.

Goro it will depend whether it's post game or something like Q where it takes place in the short time the whole party is complete.

If it's post game he'll be the angsty atoner constantly going on about how tragic his life was and trying to get himself hurt as atonement, particually with Futaba because of her mother which will spark a new ship.

If it's still when he's in his fake mode he'll be ridiculously flamboyant detective prince man gay for Protag that constantly looks suspicious when he thinks nobody's looking and is sad that he's enjoying his time with the group but needs to screw them over.

I have never played a persona game but P5 looks very interesting

what kind of game is this? don't wanna google and spoil myself since the plot sounds solid

P5 is for

>>173801047
Hifumi's character and design is good but her SLink is boring, yeah. Muh parents/fans etc etc

>>173801116
No he didn't. You didn't do his confidant, stop bullshitting.

>>173800959
>still thinking Nyx is special
>in the year of our lord Yaldabaoth 17 of 2000

Not sentient. Can't alter the universe. Worst cosmic unconscious entity confirmed.

Besides Nyx is just Nyarly's cosmic poop.

>>173800959

They never once fight and defeat actual Nyx.

He only locks Erebus behind a door, and erebus is a chump who doesn't even need friendship to get his ass kicked.

Nigger.

>>173800769
thats super gay anon

>>173801154
You are less likely to be spoiled googling the game than you are coming here

>>173799282
fan art of junpei, ryuji and yosuke peeking at Ann, rise, and mitsuru getting out of a hot spring naked
>all 3 of them die instantly

>>173801041
gods in Persona are embodiments of humanity's whatever, they never really die and can return at anytime as long as humanity wants it

Saying this, I don't believe Joker is stronger than Yu and MC. He was backed up by people all over the world which had to weaken Yaldy, meanwhile MC and Yu fought their final bosses while having entire humanity against them, it's even pointed on when you fight them.

P5 is four

>>173801154
80% Visual Novel and Life Sim, 20% RPG

>>173801158
PS3 and PS4

>>173801154
It's an RPG but with huge wafts of story that are basically visual novels. So you spend say 5 hours in a dungeon and then 3 talking to friends 1 advancing the plot and then you have another dungeon

>>173800959
>Izanami is not on the same level as Nyx, nigger.
You're right Izanami is stronger.

>>173801174
>>173801175
Erebus literally just respawns and keeps running towards Nyx. If he touches Nyx everyone fucking dies.

Izanami is a literally who that moonlights at a gas station because she can't do anything else.

>>173801292
P5 is way more than 20% RPG

>>173801292
I hate Visual novels but like Persona.

>>173801047
>>173801161
I kinda liked Hifumi because she feels like an actual girlfriend instead of your best friend who you happen to be dating.

Although this time around with Makoto they did the party girlfriend quite well

>>173800863

The biggest thing is that Joker makes Satanael and kills Yaldaboth without Igor and the World Arcana powering him up. He only gets the World after everything is done, seemingly as an after thought.

He channels the wishes of Tokyo under his own power.

What are the best weapons and armour for each character? I'm assuming they must be gotten from high level Persona via Itemize.

what does giving sojiro the diary do?

>>173801258

I mean, I get that you can't actually "kill them" because they're a part of humanity itself, but isn't the Izanami "entity" you fight essentially eradicated because she becomes part of Marie?

I mean, I get she says she'll be back, but then it's mentioned afterwards that Marie now supposedly is complete now, because they were originally one and the same.

>>173801378
Probably it has actual good gameplay along with the VN stuff

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Here's an objective ranking of the first three palaces.
2>3>1

>>173801454
desu he clearly gets the world arcana afterwards because the whole final boss is literally about taking the world back

>>173801535
Emotional scene in the ending

>>173801454
>He channels the wishes of Tokyo under his own power.
that doesn't make him strong, especially not with how fickle humans are
you saw PTs popularity tank within days in-game

>>173801593

>Putting Kaneshiro's palace over anything

it was fucking awful

>>173801206
>>173801292
>>173801318
sounds promising, needed some comfy game

should i get P5 or Yakuza kiwami?

>>173801454
Hell I even think Satanael is his initial persona that just got chained to Arsene because the Velvet Room got hijacked.

>>173801535
He looks at it and cries at the end when you leave

>>173799282

>Fanart of Catherine game endings, but with Makoto instead of Catherine on top while she reads the manga that she used to stalk Joker

>Fanart of Yosuke giving Futaba a NotBeats brand headset as a present.

Ann is dumber than a fucking rock.
They made her tits look good in a bikini though.
Sadayo's bikini in Hawaii triggers my dick more than anything though, holy shit

I'm still confused whether or not they changed Sae's heart, did they?

>>173801658
Persona 5.

>>173801339

So Erebus has the same power that every "collective unconscious" god has? and can't actually do anything else on his own?

Impressive.


I mean, Izanami sucks balls, but if you actually think Erebus is above her you'e retarded anon.

>>173801651
Kill yourself. It was the first actual dungeon and not just a straight line.

Here's a ranking of the first three palaces in chronological order

1 > 2 > 3

>>173801658
P5. You'll have a lot more fun and replayability with it than Yakuza.

>>173801658
They're actually very similar in that you run around doing side shit and then do some gameplay

If you really care about spoilers I'd recommend getting P5 first and then ignoring the internet (especially this thread and all of /v/) until it's complete

>>173801643
>that doesn't make him strong
It just gave him the final push to summon Satanael.

>>173801717
They didn't

>>173801535
>>173801686
>Sojiro crying when Joker's original house is like 5 minutes away
What a baby.

>>173801745

If you like the color grey so much go play any other game. Everything from the design, puzzles, etc. was bad.

The only redeeming factor was the boss.

>>173801730
I'm not saying Erebus is above Izanami, I'm saying Nyx is, retard.

Nyx > POWERGAP > Gas station attendant

>>173801651
I didn't think it was too bad desu.

The first palace boss is easily the best of the first 3 though. 2 and 3 were both anti-climatic wet farts.

>>173801538
honestly, everything with Marie is such a bullshit it's hard to tell. She doesn't even have any of Izanami's powers, doesn't have the same role, or anything

>>173801749
really makes you think

>>173801661
I think it's more than getting hijacked, he did feel I think MC did feel like he was in prison of society because of what Shido did to him, knowing full well that he's all about that justice but no one else seems to give a damn.

And when everyone else believed in him and the phantom thieves at the end, that's when he finally believed that society aren't ignorant fuckwads anymore.

>>173801795
At one point someone said Joker lives in the countryside

I know this is not the thread to be on because I'll get spoilers, but I'm absolutely fucking new to this series, and haven't touched a single game in my lifetime.

So if I were to ask:
Are the games all connected storywise or is it like Final Fantasy,
If so, will I be expected to not understand anything when jumping straight into 3 and onward,
and will you hurt me for asking this bullshite, despite reading some of the general guide?

Thank you and please don't kill me.

do you get anything out of continuing to hang out with someone even if your social link is maxed for p5?

>>173801897
it's like final fantasy

>>173801158
sapping me of the will to live!

When are the bosses gonna be cool again?

Shadow Kamoshida was cool as hell, but Madarame and Kaneshiro were easy and fucking lame.

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>>173801778
>>173801752
>>173801728
alright, never played anime games in my life so this will be my first

hope the first impression is a good one, thanks lads

>>173801848
The boss was the weakest part. It is the first dungeon with a good gimmick in the cameras, the layout is miles better than the hills forward designs of the first two dungeons and requires you to explore, and the music is by far the best. I'll agree that it's visually the weakest, but fucking hell there is a shit ton more to these dungeons than just that. You're a fucking faggot good damn.

>>173801897

P1 directly goes into the two P2s. But P2 part 2 is a completely different universe from P1 and P2 where similar things happened, but differently, because the P1/P2-1 universe was destroyed. P3/4/5 take place in the new universe.

You don't need to play the earlier games, you can jump into P3.

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How does Ann not get fat? All she seems to eat are sweets.

Even in her Confidant, a model goes on about her healthy diet plan and Ann is just "I like cake and crepes"

>>173801897

They're not connected at all despite taking place in the same universe. There are a couple of references usually but nothing more.

You don't have to know a single thing. I started with 3 as well.

Don't make me tussle with you, boy.

>>173801745
Pros: it's non linear
Cons: it isn't fun, it doesn't look good, the enemies quickly become boring, the boss is easy and boring, the puzzles are easy yet annoying.

hmm

>>173801897
The games are barely connected and have very little story continuity aside from a couple fanservice moments.
However the systems are very similar.
Start with 5 since it's the most user-friendly, then work backward to appreciate where it came from.

Enjoy fighting Nyx, he's the only really difficult boss in all 3 games

>>173801292
Persona games dont have novel elements.
Its standard conversation part of rpg though

>>173802047
Some people are just Iike that

>>173801690
>Sadayo's bikini in Hawaii triggers my dick more than anything though, holy shit
fug, I missed that
You got an image or something, please?

>>173802047
Anzu Takamaki, being a transwoman, possesses a masculine metabolism!

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>>173802102

>>173801885
>when he finally believed that society aren't ignorant fuckwads anymore.

They still are though.

>>173802002
At the end. The last two main bosses are also by far the two most challenging, for me personally I only had to reconsider my strategies towards the end of the game

>>173802047
Some people naturally have superior metabolism

>>173801861

Yeah, but that's relevant How?

Nyx just floats around not giving a shit, with the answer even making it clear she's an apathetic moon that sits there doing nothing, unless erebus finds her and they never actually fight Nyx directly, retard.

So again, how is Nyx being at the top of the chain relevant? P3MC doesn't do shit to Nyx, he only cockblocks Erebus. How does that make him top dog?

>>173802070
None of those cons are true though. It is fun, it does look good, the enemies aren't hiring, the boss isn't boring, and the puzzles aren't annoying.
Cry more you fucking faggot.

>>173802047

She seems to have an incredibly high natural metabolism since she also looks like that without ever having seen the inside of a gym.

>>173802047
It all goes to her dumb tits.
If you want a real woman, go after sensei.
I'm sorry for not shutting up about it but sadayo made me realize I have some very specific fetishes and she hits all 3

>>173802131
Was kinda expecting something a little more, but Sensei always does things to my dick. Thanks, anon.

>>173802002
Next Palace boss is simple mechanically but a pretty neat spectacle

>>173802002
Shadow Okumura is a test of survival with a 30 minute time limit if that interest you.

Shadow Sae has some random chance elements that can either help or screw you over, and you also send a teammate to see through her cheats.

Unfortunately the rest of the bosses from here on out are either boring or straightforward or tedious.

So if what virtues do The Phantom Thieves represent given their palace's opposites

Chastity - Ann
Temperance - Makoto
Charity - Haru
Diligence - Ryuji
Patience - Futaba
Kindness - Morgana
Humility - Yusuke

>>173801887

Wherever he lives it's close enough to be within driving distance and close enough that people can go hang with him on their days off.

It's not that far.

>>173802185
Wrong

>>173802131
I want to sniff her butthole

>>173802047
By the end of her confidant Anna is dieting and working out

Also metaverse is physically taxing

>>173801957
>>173802045
>>173802069
>>173802074

Alright then, Thanks for the help
And believe me, if there are any infamous bosses then I'll be sure to crash and burn.
Unless it's like the Kracken from Earthbound, fucker was so easy I oneshot him with PK Freeze on the first encounter

>>173802165

The P3 protag fought Nyx alone at the end and then beat her back with The World and sacrificing his soul. He is strong as fuck. Joker wields Satan and smites the judeochristian God, so he is obviously insanely powerful too.

Yu is the weakest since he sealed some regional goddess who wasn't even really out to do anything malicious.

>>173801880

Yeah, Marie is a shitter.

I mean, it's implied she does have the powers but just doesn't use them because it's pointless, and she's just a retarded urban punk who'd rather change the weather.

Horrible, Horrible, character.

>>173802139
Not when they were all going to get server wiped by god, after that, yeah.

>>173802249
>Chastity - Ann
?

>>173802047
>having shit metabolism
Feels good to be African american. I eat fast food nearly everyday and still have a six pack.

>>173802185
>I enjoy doing simple addition and subtraction sums where I have to either remember or look up each number

>>173802368
Isn't it just the Demiurge, instead of God?

>>173802361
>Infamous bosses

Reverse Lovers in P3 was fun.
Shadow Mitsuo in P4 was even more fun.

:)

>>173802368

I'm not arguing whether Yu is the weakest or not, I don't give a fuck about him.

I'm arguing that P3MC is ridiculously ego stroked.

He doesn't "beat nyx back" He survives against Nyx using friendship long enough to become a door and block Erebus.

I mean I get the answer fucking sucks, but people really should play it.

>>173800771
>Save Mishima
>He wont get off your dick
>Makes a fansite I didn't ask that leads to events later on in the game.
>Literally just using you to get girls.

Is this how Hifumi sees a shogi board?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EUuYxXJ6MY

Did you guys think that p3 cast and p4 saw metaverse thing in p5 final boss time event and were saying WHAT HELL IS THESE

You know what? Fuck Coffee Dad. If they wanted me to bond with him they shouldn't have made his Social Link grow so slowly. He can go fuck himself, he's never getting past rank 3.

Is Kawakami the best girl?

>>173802479
>I enjoy pressing X in front of a laser
Wow Anon, two can play at that. The code shit is piss easy and takes up such an insignificant fraction of the dungeon that it means nothing.
The dungeon is no worse with them, especially since the actual puzzle is just finding the notes, not using them.
If yourself you ADHD retard.

>>173802498
Yeah, but the Demiurge is, in Gnosticism, is considered this universe's creator god and that the real GOD is a plane far higher than him.

It was that realization by the Demiurge that caused him to turn evil. He didn't have the power to create, which is God's power, but in fact only had the power to make with what has already been created.

>>173802573

Probably, but the shadow operatives probably thought tracking down a ginger with a scar was more important than impending doom.

Introducing that was retarded. Now it's just the avengers where you wonder where they are when anything important happens in a "standalone" story.

>>173802370
>got her instead of Izanami
Always be mad desu. they could have still kept the final boss anyway, Izanami design is 10/10 and having her realzie that Yu is his own man despite being Izanagi reincarnation is a story that write itself.

>>173802539

This is true. I feel like the thieves would have had an easier time if they could act relatively under the radar instead of Mishima posting them all over the net.

>>173802653
Just keep doing it, anon. If you rank him up you can make stronger coffee that restores more SP and you can also make curry which heals the team's SP.

He does take a while but just keep spending time with him, he'll rank up eventually.

>>173802412

Chasity also represents purity. As in she is honest about what she wants and doesn't beat around the bush.

>>173802412
She's really not slutty at all, she's just stupid as all fuck.
She even covers herself multiple times after she realizes that the dudes are trying to see her goods. She's at least good natured about it. She's kinda a bro if you think about it.
>had girl in our group of friends once
>big tits, everyone constantly giving her shit about em
>one day in class, she whispers to me
>look over, her and a few of our friend are dying laughing, hiding from the teacher behind the people in the desks in front of them
>she pops her titty out and it's got a smiley face drawn on it in sharpie
>fucking stifling laughs trying to make it through the lecture

Phantom is from Sumaru City!

>>173802653

I love that this is such a prevalent problem.

You have to have Futaba join your party to get him past 3.