/utg/ - Undertale General

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>Toriel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IUvHmUMAEQM8l.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IyIRBVoAAtwFz.jpg:orig
>Asriel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KuoVyUIAEbrq-.jpg:orig
>Flowey
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JhZPhUIAAMY_J.jpg:orig
>Frisk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9I7C8jV0AAkNHg.jpg:orig
>Chara
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IhHqjVwAMgonY.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9I_YOlVYAAmtPq.jpg:orig
>Sans
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IltiuV0AA5IDD.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9LgYcPUMAIkocI.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JU-KrVoAEtxyo.png:orig
>Papyrus
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9I5DsSV0AAxnpu.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9EL1z4VYAEPgtj.jpg:orig
>Gaster
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IiypUVwAAPPGl.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IiypUVwAAPPGl.jpg:orig
>Undyne
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9DFKJjVwAALEAO.jpg:orig
>Mettaton
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JXbO3UIAApwYe.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9I2qFlVYAAOW1L.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IiwrlUAAAlTYS.jpg:orig
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JMCQ4V0AA_B4D.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9I-SOYVYAERxcA.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IelepU0AMdp-W.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JTmiOVoAAJvJB.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JsvP6U0AAjlhg.jpg:orig
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Iwq6qU0AAsG1b.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JKP3RVoAEP5a1.jpg:orig
>Muffet
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9InWUdVYAAp46V.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9InL50U0AI3VjO.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9InKLrV0AALCjT.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9InF4nUIAEjsDC.png:orig
>Mettaton & Napsta
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IlR-5U0AA891k.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IyMxiUQAAY01z.jpg:orig
>Gaster & Goat Frisk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9IyloRVoAA888D.jpg:orig
>Frisk & Chara
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9JmIF3V0AAJfG3.png:orig

I can already tell this is going to be a fun thread.

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what do you think flowey did to alphys when he was messing with everyone

>>173758614
the same as everybody else i assume

>>173758439
For future reference, keep irl politics out of threads and ops.


you'll invite /pol/ to shit up the place if you don't

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doin' questionable things with this gote

>>173758719
too late
we have Mr. "It's ok to do inhuman experiments as long as they're not human anymore"
and
"Murder is Ok, as long as it's consensual."

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>>173758654
I would think he'd take it a little more personally.

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>>173758786
Good thing Frisk is a girl then.

>>173758819
Both of those statements are valid though.

This seems like a good time to duck out, so good night everyone

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>>173758614
Kissing.
He had to start with someone insecure to build his own confidence and expertise at it.
It paid off though, he's a god damn god at deep, hardcore kissing by the time you reach underground.

>>173758925
It's pretty /pol/-ey though.

>>173758819
>human remains with no ability to think or feel or ever regain those abilities are the same as actual, living, feeling beings!
>people with horrifically painful terminal illnesses should be forced to live out their last excruciating gasp instead of choosing when they want to pass on!

>10 posters
>Well, I guess 9 posters now.
It's dead hours why are you people here?

>>173758874
Makes the first times easier huh

>>173759119
I slept all afternoon so I'm not tired and I wanted to post some art.
I'm mostly hanging out in a different place right now though

>>173759119
need something to do during loading screens

>>173758981
Is it?

I thought consensual murder aka euthanasia was more of a liberal position

>>173758851
I wanna fuck the robutt

>>173759116
>no abilirt to think or feel ever regain those abilities
but Alphys' victims do so your whole argument is pointless

>>173759169
?

>>173759290
You keep saying these things that I completely agree with and assume I'll find it horrifying.

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>>173759289
remember to ask for permission first

>>173759290
>we should do experiments on Anencephaly babies
>it's no longer a feeling, thinking, or "living" human anymore
>and when we fuck up just bury it no problem, it's parents consented
If the parents are fine with it, go for it.

I miss botfags.

>>173759334
Only thanks to her though.

>>173759290
Deleted post?

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>>173759119
Can't sleep something's all over me

seriously send help/fluffy goats I think I'm dying

>>173759442
I think they're all in the discord.

>>173759523
There are only two botfags on there

>>173759401
please

>>173759334
She had no possible way of knowing that would happen.

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>>173759119
Hoping for good pics of best lizzard

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>>173759502
i want a fluffy goter

>>173759736
Its almost like she shouldn't have been fucking around with stuff she had no knowledge of and that she shouldn't have taken a job that she only got by lying about her skills!

>>173759617
i meant him not me, you dingus

>>173758572
Oh I accidentally linked a Gaster picture twice. Sorry

>>173759829
>Its almost like she shouldn't have been fucking around with stuff she had no knowledge of
The whole point of science is to gain knowledge of things you don't know about, silly.

>she shouldn't have taken a job that she only got by lying about her skills!
Sure, that was bad. But for all we know she still could have been the most qualified person for the position, or at least just as qualified as anyone else would be, considering it seemed to be pretty much uncharted territory.

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>>173759806

>>173760091
She was hired because of her knowledge of souls
She lied about that knolwedge
She shouldn't have been hired but because she was all the people that were hurt because of her actions are her fault including Flowey and the amalgams

Would you give a comfy foot massage to your favourite Undertale? What if they asked nicely?

>>173760228
no and no fuck off would be my answers respectively

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>>173759806
Whoops, accidentally posted a lizard.
Hope you can forgive me.

How do gay monsters even have sex? Does one guy just insert his penis into the other guys penis? How do they decide which penis goes inside the other one?

>>173760296
Anon that's pretty aggressive. They asked nicely, why wouldn't you?

>>173760467
because feet are gross and asking twice pisses me off

>>173760539
But anon, I'm sure they'd appreciate it greatly and it'd be very comfy for them. Couldn't you put up with it at least for one time?

>>173760607
no fuck off

>>173760193
Thanks, any more like that?

>>173760375
>>173760193
>>173759806
>>173760091
This is why people hate dadfags

>>173760661
You're going to make your favourite cry anon!

>>173760715
thats sad

>>173760712
>dadfags
I don't see any mention of Asgore

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>>173760885
The constant spam and acting smug and morally superior despite your favorite being an unlikable piece of shit is why dadfags are hated. You're doing the same thing now so stop before it's too late

>>173761017
>receives thank you in advance
>doesn't vote
>free thank yous
who else /devilish/ here?

>>173761059
I'll be sure not to make the mistake of posting a Undertale character on a Undertale board again.

>>173761221
Yeah, you better watch out, he might call you a cuck.

>>173761146
I bet you took all the monster candy you could
I bet you never called Toriel
I bet you never called Papyrus
I bet you didn't even ask him out
I bet you let Mkid fall
I bet you ate the snow piece right in front of the snowman
I bet you poured all the water you could out of the water jug until only one cup was left before you gave it to Undyne
I bet you saw right through Alphys's tricks and never once acted kind to her
I bet you rejected Napstablook's friend request
I bet you blew off Mettaton's arms and legs
I bet you ate the pie in front of Asgore
I bet you ignored Greater Dog
I bet you didn't hug or forgive Asriel
I bet you told Toriel you had better things to do

>>173761395
>I bet you blew off Mettaton's arms and legs
Is it possible to win the fight without that?

>>173761395
yup, im a thug for life

>>173761460
Well technically you don't have to shoot at Mettaton's soul at any point in the battle. However if you don't get 12k ratings fast enough his arms fall off.

>>173761570
I did this. I thought shooting him would hurt him.

>>173761754
I'm pretty sure you get a ratings bump if you damage him enough that his parts start falling off, so there's some incentive

if you're a bitch

>>173760465
GUYS

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Gluten Morgan, as they say in Italy

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Goat

Children

>>173762934
the benis goes in the butt

>>173758439
you guys liberal?

>>173763820
wWAT
That doesn't make sense, men don't get pleasure from habing a penis in the ass

>>173764625
yes they do, look up prostrate orgasms

>>173764661
>Prostates
Those do not give people pleasure!!
What witchcraft are you talkin about?

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Shout out to our scaly girls out there pushing us forward into the new era of AUs.

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>>173765098

>>173764812
Apparently they do. Stimulating the prostate can cause a male to reach orgasm even without penile stimulation. Also they have no refractory time.

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Is it really so wrong that I just want to bend this flower backwards and fill him with my seed?

>>173767428
how do you even fuck something that has no orfices

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>>173767517
>No orifices
He has a mouth, y'know.
Even then, it may surprise you to learn that, since Flowey is part monster, his stem is actually rather hollow. You can have some fun with that.

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hello
im just postin my undertale
ok see ya

>>173768216
hello
thank you
bye

I wanna sqeezechara's tiddies

>>173768628
But she doesn't have those

Goodnight /utg/, I love you!

>>173768829
Goodnight!
<3 <3

>>173768829
Goodnight lad!

>>173769192
<3 !

>>173769224
>>173769225
<3 !

>>173769286
Why is sand gay

>>173769354
because its coarse and gets everywhere

>>173769394
Which undertale would be most susceptible to Palpatine's manipulations?

>>173769473
So Sorry. Immersing himself in the dark side will give rise to a new Sith Lord, Darth Art

If I was a sith boy my name would be darth arse

I wish I could save and load.

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Groove Flowe demands some tunes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ALlRGynTE

I wish I had a talking gun that would be my friend

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>>173770314
Something from the "I heard this in my parents' car all the time" catalogue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGEubdH8m0s

WAKE UP

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>>173771639
Gyah! Whu-immup, immup

These threads have been consistently awful for months and I hate the majority of you.

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>>173771538
best boy and girl before bed

>>173771963
good night anon. have sweet dreams!

>>173771963
Why did you post worst goat and the characteless self insert

>>173771639
IM MORE AWAKE THAN I HAVE EVER BEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE BOY DO YOU SEE THIS FUCKING DETERMINATION I AM AFLAME WITH IT

>>173771916
How could make them better?

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>>173771639
no. im going to sleep. good night.

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Have a Frisk

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Good morning utg! Have a good day!

>>173758572
Thank you Twitter anon!

>>173774349
good morning

im gonna vomit

>>173775102
fuck off meme thief

>>173775142
but im bored
i wont do it again

>you will never be a girl
>you will never have a socially awkward goat monster bf to sexually torment

>>173775309
youre not getting off that easy kid, stealing memes is a serious offense

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>>173775142
>>173775309
>>173775421

>>173775421
i did not steal it, i was just borrowing or using it. you werent using it anyways.
also i do feel like im gonna hurl.

>>173775476
i did nothing wrong. memes should be shared.
is it really a meme if only one person is allowed to use it?
#free2meme2017

>>173775580
listen buddy ive trademarked all of my memes, now put your hands where i can see em

>>173775812
youll never take me alive
*kills me*

>>173776225
You're really no fun, you didn't even give him enough time to unsheathe his katana

>>173776269
I WASNT GONNA DO THAT YOU DONT KNOW ME

>>173776269
stop telling me how to live my life

>>173776424
booby

>>173777000
>comic is not letterboxed
ONE JOB

>>173777000
Return to sender.

>>173777218
Insufficient postage. Pay $10 or you're stuck with gote

>>173777000
Why do you guys keep spamming the same handful of poorly drawn comics? Go on tumblr or twitter and get some new fucking content already

>>173777218
ADDRESS
UN
KNOWN

>>173777309
>people bitch about content being too old
>people bitch about new content not what they want

well I guess I just have to blow it up then

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>>173777128

>>173777378
Maybe if you didn't post it every other thread it wouldn't get so old

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>>173777309
Okay

>>173777383
Kek

>>173777293
>>173777316
Into the shredder it goes then.

>>173777316
NO
SUCH
NUMBER

>>173777378
people just like finding anything to bitch about.

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>>173759442
I'm here now.

>>173759523
I'm not.

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>>173777378
There's nothing wrong with posting your favourite stuff here as long as it's on topic.

>>173777773
What's the topic today?

>>173777773
and as long as you make textposts to keep the limits even

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>>173777761

>>173778084
step one is worshipping his legs

wanted to do a 'frisk sits on mettaton's vibrating thigh during a theatre production'-fic, just never got around to it

Nothing gets me more hard than browsing /utg/, pre just leaking from my member as each post appears. When people mention their favorite I just stroke even faster to keep up with the pleasure of witnessing each image posted.

>>173778737
Good for you anon

>>173778737
every morning I wake up and beat one out to my favorite before a shower

>>173778737
And here we see the fabled postgender threadsexual

>>173779119
Can we see someone else

>>173779758
you can see deez nuts

>>173780293
Asriel looks like he's being beaten by at least one human daily

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>finally have a dream that included my favorite
>a clickbait YouTube video where I watch their hypercock get stuffed with Undyne's spears while it blares BlazBlue music at me

I think I've been coming here too long.

>>173780640
ASTRAL FINISH!

>>173780640
I've had exactly one favourite-dream, and it was a flashback inside a crossover

>>173782813
me irl

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>>173780640
What a coincidence I also finally had a dream of my favorite last night

I was lying in bed with Mettaton with his long robot tube arms curled around me.
We hugged. I wondered if any of my family think I'm gay.

I woke up with a diamond hard erection.

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Cool friends!

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I need healing, I want to be held by Toriel.

Morning

>>173784561
I hate Toriel

>>173785353
ok

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>>173786171
You are a cuckold

>>173780640
I ended up dreaming that I went grocery shopping with Alphys and Undyne. I think Thanksgiving was mentioned at some point. I never realized i was so boring .

>>173786236
Nope, I'm just a pimp.

You don't think he has to audition with the director?

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>>173786518
Anon you just described a fantasy about letting your woman getting fucked by a third party and you're giving them money for it

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>>173778510
If you ever do write it, I'd love to see it.

>>173778737
Hello again, lewd anon.

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>>173787071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE

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>>173786439
>>173783379
>>173781259
>>173780640

I really want to have dreams of my favourite but they never seem to happen

>tfw trying to lucid dream exclusively to have dreams about goatmilf and fishwaifu

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>>173776424
>that filename
Wrong episode, anon

>>173758439

That edition, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzmEIAdLHGw

>>173758572

Undyne source?

>Never had dreams of my favorite.
>Only Gaster

>>173788353
You have to save him anon

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>>173788353
>>173788523
>tfw toby will never let us save him

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>>173788353
>Never dream of any Undertale stuff
>this morning I dream that an old Asian woman is putting stuff up my arse
>it starts bleeding so much that I almost die
>then I try to go back in time to prevent it from happening

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Where are my fellow fishfags?

>>173789087
In the /trash/ thread wallowing in self-insert fantasies

>>173789087
Hello.

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>>173789087
ra herr

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>>173789087

Occasionally yes.

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This is easy! We kill them and then we go home!

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>>173789087
Here.
>>173789452
would smash

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>>173790465
nyes

>>173790419
I bet Asriel is very bad at CSGO

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>>173791650
Well he's like 12.
He'd be gold nova for sure.

>>173792176
>ywn carry Asriel

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>>173789346
>>173789452
>>173790386
>>173790465
>>173791298

NGAHHHHH

Hi everyone

>>173792176
>the red circles are his eyes
>the lines above them are eyebrows

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>>173792462
wuddup

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>>173792495
I can sorta see it.
Sorta.

Mettaton is showering. Do you:
>take a peek at him
>give him privacy

>>173791650
it'd be like playing against russians you arent actually good at the game
doxing and swating would be recommended tactics to remove him from the game

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Page 9 goat doodle

>>173792769
Remind him his body isn't fully waterproofed

Remember, four foot nine is the magic number, the height in which you can finally not be legally required to use a baby seat in a car

>>173795163
Isn't it by weight, not height?

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>>173784561
Soft mom a best

>>173795163
FUCK YOU, PAL

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I've ravaged fleets. Brought wanton destruction to cities. Left planets scarred and broken. I have brought the innocent to sobering despair. I have marred the stars themselves.

I did it all for this goat.

>>173795340
Nope, it's height.
>>173795354
It's the law

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I have drawn the other, taller fish.

>>173795881
I like it

can you explain to me why im still here?

To be fair, Undyne did teach Mettaton how to pee standing up.

>>173796489
Undyne is barely housetrained though

>>173796652
>>173796489
Monsters don't have toilets, they only eat monster food/liquids.

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K guys chapter 14 esta aqui

http://archiveofourown.org/works/9921365/chapters/23455182

hope u like it

>>173797428
>Asgore's face is covered
lol

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Only wholesome images now

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>>173796481
Just to suffer

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>>173797804
as you wish

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>>173798025
No

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>>173797804
Very well.

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>>173798429
NO

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>>173798129
Sure, boss

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>>173797453
Noice

>>173798525
gimme

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wholesome gote

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It'd be cool if Toriel killed me.

>>173799108
who the fuck sleeps in a sweater?

>>173799405
it might be cold outside

>>173799481
then maybe they should pull up the covers, up to the shoulder or something?

>>173799384
It would be pretty hot actually

>>173799965
Ew

>>173799965
this looks okay so long as he doesn't bite your fucking fingers off in a rush

>>173795881
It's good but the chest is awfully wide. Makes her head look small in comparison.

Hi

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>>173800204

>>173800550
>>>/reddit/

>>173800591
nope

>>173800550
Hoi!

>>173800550
*grabs ur package*

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dem teen goat hours?

>>173800741
*miss

>>173800741
Thanks for getting my mail for me!

>>173801040
Well I was a mailman for a little while

>>173801192
Emm, looks like canon game.

>>173801192
None can resist Frisk's thick cock and hairless tight boipussy

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>>173800870
It's dead hours every hour!

>>173801770
Lovely!

>>173801770
Requesting another AsgoreXAnon pic OR Fish gangbang

>>173802025
imagine all that grass going up Frisk's ass

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>>173801770
You're pretty good Jelly!

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>>173800373
Duly noted, thank you.

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>>173801192

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>>173758719
but what if pol was here all along
MAGA

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The spider a cute! CUTE!!!

I do not have strong feelings for the spider, but enjoy the passion her fans display here.

>>173803575
But can the spider stop Bowser from setting up seven deadly hotels!?

>>173803575
Giving the baby spider a box full of old comic books and cartoons for her to enjoy!
The baby spider being so happy and showing her new box to all her friends!
All the comic books and cartoons showing spiders as mean and evil!
The baby spider's friends starting to make fun of the baby spider for being a spider like all the mean and evil spiders in the old comics and cartoons!
The baby spider internalizing the anti-spider spirit of the old days!
The baby spider crying and wishing she wasn't a spider because she doesn't want to be mean and evil!

>>173787937
Sorry I'm so late
https://twitter.com/nyusu_UT

>>173803730
What's the original for this?

>>173804750
He sees Asgore and a bees' nest iirc

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god that op pic is cringe

>>173804787
>Asgore was in it
Thank you for editing it in that case

>>173805048
pfft

>>173801192
This comic pulls all the same shit as skeletonfag comics, we know, we don't care.

>>173805016
I hope that filename is bait.

>>173803665
Thanks. It's mostly just a habit, though. I merely want to tell everyone how much I love the spider.
>>173803781
Sure she can, but you know what would be better? Turning them into not-deadly hotels! All she needs is to open a bake sale stand at the hotel and the resulting cuteness will fix everything! Also, always remember to close the door!
>>173804405
Reassuring the spider that it's perfectly okay to be a spider!
Telling the spider that those comics and cartoons are too old-fashioned!
Telling the spider that nowadays spiders are seen as heroes, such as Spiderman!
Reminding the spider that spiders help get rid of deadly and annoying bugs!
The spider regaining her confidence and putting away the comics and cartoons!
The spider and her friends being so happy for being who they are!

>>173805448
Whats so funny?

>>173805809
>>173804405
>Spider-man
>nowadays
That shits more than half a century old

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>ywn feed asgore tons of butterscotch-cinnamon pie until he doesn't feel sad anymore
why live

>>173805896
/utg/ in a nutshell.

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Everyone's favourite!

Meanwhile, in an Alternative Universe /utg/...

>>173806792
I just love how Toby has made an alarm clock, but when is the game coming out?

>>173806792
That AU with a grown up Asriel being friends with Giegue is brilliant!

>>173806792
Is anyone else really bothered by how much attention Alphys and Undyne get in fan works? And my favorites, Papyrus and Sans, get literally no recognition in the fandom whatsoever. What gives?

>>173806792
I'm glad we finally figured out how to get the TRUE true pacifist ending where it ended with a long, explicit sex scene with Asriel after you save him
Who would've thought getting the legendary artifact would turn out to be so simple?

>>173806963
This is how actual skeletonfags act you dummy

>>173806792
These threads are so interesting and fun, I hope /utg/ never dies!

>>173807643
Go away Soriel

>>173805997
Still, it's a great example of spiders being good.
>>173806792
Hard mode was so fun! I can't wait for the next major content update! The dozens we have had so far were all very well designed!

>>173806792
>tfw literaly nobody does Sans or Papyrus art
I wish these fucking Flowershit AUs would fuck off and die already. They're responsible for 90% of this fandom's cancer.

>>173806792
Anyone else getting tired of all the fanart of Asgore being a dick to Toriel and people using him as an excuse to not include her in art work or to shit on her? Its really making me dislike him

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REAL
MKID
HOURS
https://soundcloud.com/4theconcept/datfootdive-x-d-real-minor-problems-prod-datfootdive

>>173806792
There aren't enough pictures of Sans crying.

>>173806613
just jelly's

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>>173808867

>>173806792
I love how Chara and Frisk were easily explained, and I hated how much of a neckbeard Papyrus was, seriously, why did toby add pony references?

>>173806963
>>173808451
>>173809086
You guys are so bitter that its hilarious. Why are you even still here? Leave already

>>173806792
i really respect the UT fandom for not getting shitty at their favourite game's creator, even though he's kind of a shitty person online.

>>173806792
WHY DOESN'T THIS GAME HAVE ANY PORN

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>>173808156
I want Toriel to ground me. And by that I mean pounce on me and shag me rotten.

>>173809915
>>>/shit taste/

>>173804437
>https://twitter.com/nyusu_UT

Thank you.

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>>173810303

>>173810303
>>>/out/gay

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>>173809915
[...] I want that. I want exactly that. Are you sure you're not me?

>momfags shitting up the thread with their shitty old woman fetish again
Fuck off

>>173811341
Say who your fave and i say who you are.

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>>173811341
Have you had a bad day, anon?

>>173811496
Asgore

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>>173811341

>>173811604
You are little soriel. And just want dadfans look bad.

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HO' boy! - Can we not?

Anyways, what would you get your favorite for their birthday? Maybe in a reasonable price range

>>173812045
Handmade Snail Pie and Golden Flower Tea.

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>>173812045
A box of chocolates.
A new knife.
Some new clothes.

>>173812045
https://www.amazon.com/Snail-Cookbook-Recipes-sides-Pyrenees/dp/149427258X

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>>173812045
Some homemade chocolate chip cookies and a bunch of weird tea blends

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>>173812045

>>173812045
A nice tea set.

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Is this still accurate?

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>>173812045
A nice book, a bottle of wine and some massage oil.

>>173811839
>Implying they need help looking bad