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Anime makes you a better Dota 2 player edition.

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
http://www.dotabuff.com/
http://www.opendota.com/
http://www.datdota.com/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
Streamlink Twitch GUI: https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink-twitch-gui

>COSMETIC ITEM BETTING
http://dota2lounge.com/
http://dota2.vpgame.com/
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first for ebin
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>>173721865
what about frog1?
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sing is /ourguy/
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wens esbortds
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>>173722386
na kings onyx play the ixmikeKillers in ~1 hour
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post good carry players

pic unrelated
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>>173722665
pic also unrelated
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>>173722665
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>pick sven
>veno goes support
>first thing he does is dive to try and kill sniper
>he fails
>tell him to play passively
>by minute 4 he's already died 3 times
>other people from the team catch on the idea that he's retarded
>end up getting ganked a bunch of times
>30 minutes later i'm still catching up
>by minute 50 i'm six slotted and hit like a truck but it's no use because everyone is fed

god damn it

>tl;dr me ooga team booga
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>>173723347

>playing the game

kek what a fucking retard
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>>173723228
mmmmmm dfc
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>>173723727
>play the game
>have a bad time
>>wtf i hate dota now
>repeat

really boozles my bambles
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>play jungle sven
>win
dotards?
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https://twitter.com/LighTofHeaveNX/status/851864676044615681
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>>173721642
>weaver is not a support
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>>173724272
game is ezmode now. you can play jungle alch and not set your team behind too much and still have a jingle alch
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>>173724317
>Became Pope :)

but the pope cant have children...
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What is core for Visage, besides +1 bird scepter?
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>>173724615
solar crest
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why don't more people rush orchid on clock? You don't need blade mail until later in the game. Orchid will let you solo kill literally any hero in the game
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>>173724615
Solar Crest, Rod of Atos
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>>173724926
I hadn't even considered it, to be honest
Might try it out next game, do you go Bottle->Phase->Orchid->Aghs then?
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>>173724615
>>173724882
>>173725129
tranqs->medallion->aghs->atos->solar crest?
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>Gyro is shit
>Doesn't get a single buff in 7.05

Explain.

He's so close to good, but icefrog just won't give him some base damage or extra strength or any of the obvious buffs that he needs.
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>>173725296
tranq boots and then straight into orchid
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>>173725660
gyro is good
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>>173725660
he's not shit
there's your answer.
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name an ultimate that's harder to use than pic related
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>>173726441
It's only difficult to use when your teammates are literally shitters and don't play around any chance of you using your ultimate/ dont have the reflexes to cancel their spells when the ulti goes off.
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>>173726762
>tfw your aghs tinker uses his q on a 5 man curse
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What are your thoughts on the Doom changes in latest patch?

Sucks that you have to choose between 50+ hp regen and 7% infernal blade ticks (28%hp per hit)

Why would i want to devour ancients??? Only the new purple shaman ones are worth eating.

I dont understand Doom's low winrate under 5k. I'm close to 60% now. Love this hero.
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>>173726929
>your jugger uses omni onto a cursed enemy
>three times in the game
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>>173726441
>any hero is remotely close to there hard carry dies pretty much 100% of the time
>hard to use

stay bad
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>>173724926
>>173725670
The stats are wasted on clock, and also it's such an expensive item to try and rush unless you're a dedicated farmer

Might as well get a Veil of Discord which provides about the same utility but it's still a waste on clock

I do agree that blademail is better on late game though, but you should be getting echo sabre instead
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>>173724926
Because in most games your too poor to get it early enough. Orchid isn't that great when everyone has euls mantas and bkbs already. If your having a great game and can get it early, go ahead.
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>>173726993
i feel like all the regen talents are underwhelming, +50 regen is basically negating 50 damage per second, at that point of the game you dont need to have hp sustain from a talent, and doom has alot of items cause midas + devour. I think the blade is way better.
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>>173726993
The Shaman's Petrify is ridiculous

>It roots, disarms and grants truesight 2 sec THROUGH BKB and LINKEN, 15 sec, cannot be stolen by Rubick. If you wanna kill Weaver, Clinkz or any BKB carry use that.
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>>173726993
Blade all the way. It's 3 Burning Blades to kill instead of 4 basically.

Shame it doesn't trigger Linken. Hate having to buy Eul or Orchid, but sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do.
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does anyone have any useful input on hotels/hostels and in general for those going to TI
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>>173726441
tempest double
divided we stand
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What's up you fucking NHGs
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miku announcer for dota when
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If you were part of the design team, how would you rework him d2g?
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>>173728234
Tips for TI

>Don't go to TI unless you're a pro hat Jew you fucking retard loser lmao
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>>173728756
What I hate most about DK is how fucking squishy and how super low damage he is.

You basically have to build him like Huskar, brown boots, armlet, shadow blade.
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>>173728889

i mean apart from that, assad

i have more wagecuck coins than i'm going to live to spend, i want to see my boy artour win some dotes

if i wanted bad advice id go to reddit (but im permabanned there so)
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>>173728943
Fire breath makes your opponents same level of no damage! Except if its any magical damage core, or even support, they just dumpster DK into irrelevance for whole game.
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>>173728756
make his ult deal actual damage
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>>173728756
Lifesteal or bonus damage during dragon form
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rofl @ fogged filipino
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this dude slaps ur gf on the ass and hands you a puck

what do you do?
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>>173726993
>le eyebrow crack fiend girl

shit taste tbqh
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Someone post the laughing bulldog pic
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>>173729497
leave
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>>173729627
cara
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so bone7 is pretty much 99.9% confirmed to support on NP with aui

whos their mid tho
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>>173731038
forgot pic
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>>173724926
>>173725296
>>173725670
tried it out

it was shit
0/10 would not meme again
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>>173731364
I coulda told you that
Now, treads Maelstrom Dagon clock
THATS fun
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>>173728943
>squishy
>gets like a bazillion free regen and armor
>high strenght gain hero
wat
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>>173728756

change the ultimate's interaction with spells. rather than just increase dragon tail's cast range by 250, make it add 150/225/300 cast range and 95/135/175 damage to both spells.
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>>173730345
shit
taste
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>>173731038
>>173731207
I told you guys like 3-4 generals ago, its
1 ee
2 ???not sing but I have a good idea who it may be, go check the old generals if you want a clue
3 mss
4 aui
5 bone
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>tfw you start to have a bad game because your team is shit but the enemy team doesn't take it too seriously and good old-fashioned lighthearted banter between teams and good laughs are shared ultimately turning a bad game into a good game by providing a positive environment
>tfw you lose the match with a smile on your face because even though you lost you had such a great time with strangers that it was worth playing in the first place

it's an abstract kind of feel
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>>173732429

chi long qua would call you a snowflake

youre a dogshit kid who loves to fucking talk and laugh instead of play the game and you get along great with all the other mic spammers but youre also a feeder who is fucking dogshit
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>be position 5
>teammate wants to go alch solo offlane
>"you're gonna regret that man"
>he goes 0/11/0, by 35 minutes he has phase midas
>tell him "midas alch is so bad"
>he tells me that's just my opinion
>flames me for not supporting him top even though we had a spectre safe lane
>flames me for being 0/3/3 at the end of the game even though the score is 6 - 30

How come any time I try to coordinate a strategy or point out someone's mistake, they become a fucking delusional 8 year old and blame everyone but themselves?
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>>173732569
>you'll never be this bitter

feels good

nice projection though
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>>173728756
>Level 25 talent now indefinite dragon form
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hay hablantes de español aquí?
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>>173732917
>hay hablantes de español aquí?
taco taco burrito tequila
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>>173732593
>offlane alch midas
offlane alch midas
>offlane alch midas
offlane alch midas
>offlane alch midas
offlane alch midas
>offlane alch midas
offlane alch midas
>offlane alch midas
offlane alch midas
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>>173733110
yo cago en la leche de tu puta madre
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>win 6 in a row
>lose 1
>win 3 more
>lose 6 in a row
Hmmm.. *thinking*
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>>173733536
>>>/int/
comes mierda usted maldito tercero
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>>173733901
Dota es un juego español que estúpido muchacho blanco
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>>173733169
>alch has a midas cosmetic and invoker/arc warden don't
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>>173733169
midas alch is good tho?
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>>173734071
worst item the hero can get ironically
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i never polled the gulag on this guy
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>>173732917
>>173733536
>>173733901
>>173733958
american website
american language

speak american you bean niggers
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>>173734280

hes lolfag supreme and sounds like he has downs
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>>173729036
you idiots don't actually believe i'm lebanese do you
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>>173734296
tu hermano no tiene la ingle puto
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>>173734280
sounds like he has additional chromosoemes
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>>173734510
>>173734334
>i do not get humor because i have the 'tism
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>>173734065
>buy signature chest during TI
>ld
>midas glove
>sign from יהוה himself
>gem that shit with gold collected
>rename it to "The Shekeler"
>have over 2mil collected on it
>mfw
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>>173734481
tengo tres piscina
ajaja
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>>173732917
>>173733901
>>173733958
>>173734296
>>173734481
>>173734510
>>173734881
http://store.steampowered.com/app/426790/
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>>173732429
>types out very specific emotions eloquently and intricately
>it's an abstract kind of feel
What did he mean by this?
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>>173735050
fuck i was hoping this some was some sweet ass hentai game on steam
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>>173735356
>best ass in dota
>never ever seen again after last eu hub
whatever happened to her
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>>173735470
You're lookin at what happened to her. JUST
>best ass in dota
Lmao you literally ignored the better ass at that hub
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>>173735582
there was none
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>>173735356
CHARGE AHEAD
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>>173732593
alch is decent against a dual lane
trilane it's just a jungle alch
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>>173735747
How could you miss this ass?
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>>173735470
>>173735582
>>173735747
she left "the scene" because she was a fucking made a mockery off for getting pulled by 5'2 iranian sexlord Alaan "SexyBamboe" Faraj

p.s. Maq was best ass
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uh......
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>>173736820
is that opt-in or something?
steam only has like 500k people playing games now?
I thought steam is more popular??????????
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>tfw when rng is always against you
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>>173736820
for some reason people dislike the newest patches and are fleeing to csgo or overwatch or league or whatever the fuck else
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>>173729497
ask him if he could slap my ass too no homo ofc
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>>173737621
>techies mines make a sound when activated
it's shit

>el kang makes a sound when using the jump skill
its' shit

what's next?
spirit breaker marker visible to enemies?
icefrog is dead to us
he finally crapped the bed
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>>173736820
soonâ„¢
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icefrog here
will make invisible heroes make squeaky clown shoe noises
y/y?
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icefrog here
neutral creep xp sharing is too toxic
will make only the player getting the last hit get xp
y/y?
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>>173738710
y
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>>173735389
there there
http://store.steampowered.com/app/602520/
take these кoтs
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they could make red bomb aoe smaller and nerf the damage/cost accordingly
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>>173737605
>normal skill
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icefrog here
xp is toxic
will make all heroes in the same team share their EXP pool
y/y?
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>>173737605
Hmmm, all these games have something in common
Some unexplained factor, some unifying force
Some, dare i say it, consistent component
What could it be?
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>>173739417
dota 2 is like one step from being heroes of the storm
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>>173739548
its more closer to league of legends imo
its almost impossible to make the game as bad as heroes of the storm
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>>173727452
+50 regen can be good if you stack the shit out of magic resist and armor. In before Lina/QoP/Enchantress.
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>>173739717

heh

watch me kiddo
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>>173728756
>make him deal +200 damage per autoattack and lifesteal 60% for hitting someone 4 times in dragon form, and he's now considered melee in dragon form
>make him gain 58 damage every time he kills a support while stunned with Dragon Tail
>turn Flame Breath into fissure but it crits for 2x his attack damage
>turn Dragon's Blood into an active that lets him fly above the trees and cast on opponents without them getting vision of him

Fixed him, hire me Valve.
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>>173740419

That's just fucking imbalanced retard, don't ever try to rework my hero again.
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>>173728756
his dragon form have talents on their own that stacks with human form talents
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new update
literally nothing
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so, i was on this point that i was hurting myself by playing and forcing myself to play 1 more ranked mmr game.
I tilted of course, then there comes my cousin who queue'd ability draft for me.
there's a lot of stupid people there and i felt good myself as i win that game despite spergraging in a losing streak of mmr games.

in the end i realized... im retarded

LOL
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even after getting nerfed into the ground like 5 times, monkey king is still actually strong
what the fuck
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>>173743219
It's his gank and early game potentional. The fucker is the strongest hero in the game for the first 20 minutes or so, and if he can shut down your offlaner or midlaner I was MK recently and killed their offlane lone druid seven times before the 20 minute mark then he retains that strength
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>>173743218
>animeposter realized he's retarded
good job
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>>173743218
Stop posting worst tic
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>>173743521
how do i play him as a roamer?
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>>173744743
OoV the enemy support until he ragequits
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>>173744743
I normally play him as a safelane support, but you can place wards while hiding in a tree, and your W has a slow on it. Treedance is really nice for crossing lanes unnoticed, and his massive "fuck you" stun can also be cast from trees
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>>173728756
Arcana or rework his base model
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>pick Disruptor
>get off 3 good ults and 2 poor ones in a 36 minute game
>end 7/3/13 win

It was scary how little I was reliant on my ult that game.
>jungle necro on enemy team
What MMR god did I offend to get put against people like this. Or am I blessed because free MMR?
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why is there an invoker in every game? fucker is my go to ban now
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why the fuck is twtich ruined now
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why pa is so op?
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snibbety snebtii
:DDD
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>>173747314
you should be happy about it, the majority of them are trash
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>pick crystal bae
>teammate picks pa
>already know how this game will turn out
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>>173747407
cliggedi cligg :----DDDD
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>>173747407
DUDE
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>>173747443
doesnt take much to hit your tornado
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why did they just change twitch completley
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>>173747513
>>173747575
I sgiter
:^^D
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female tide spirit when?
tired of fat guys admiring their own remnants
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hey anons
can someone post the warlock edit of thic picture?
thanks in advance
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>new tranquil boots

My fucking god this change to tranquils just made riki absolutely dangerous

>Start with oov, wind lance and branches
>roam and bother fuck out of mid and the other lanes
>transition into tranquils and wand and put a value point in blink strike and you are on top on both supports and carries alike
>if shit goes south just disengage, regen and repeat
>get aquila and diffusal and work your way to get more kills

I swear to god roaming riki will be back in this patch when the pros realize
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>>173748136
only storm is fat. earth is bearmode and ember is fit
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Monkey king's flying vision around roshan should really be nerfed.
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>>173748136
i swear to you i'll quit this game if the new spirit is female
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>there are people unironically crying for an unranked loss
>mfw
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>>173748817
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>>173749063
i wish i screencapped that ability draft match LAMO people even wanted to report each other

fucking losers
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>>173748136
yeah, and i bet she'll have a great fun personality like all the other girls in this game
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>>173749063
>10v10 match
>one dc
>15 more follow

custom games were a mistake
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6rAwegMFRE
does anyone know where to find more of these
i swear there was one where someone voice mixed invoker saying "time for CONCENTRATION camps" but I can't find it
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So is Enigma still viable?
I just won a total stomp with him. I could have picked just about anyone and won honestly, the enemy team was trash but I'm sure I sped things up. Anyways, his jungle clear is fast, the problem is the longer respawn timer and the fact I never learned the timings for the new jungle stacking and I'm bad at micro. Still, 10 minute Soul Ring Blink Boots, 17 minute arcanes mek, Greaves by 22 and would have had Aghs but the game ended at 26. 550 GPM which I feel I could probably bring up at least 50 if I got gooder at jungling.

But tl;dr
Is it worth learning Enigma?
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>>173750282
yes, Black Hole is incredibly relevant
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>>173750535
>he doesnt know about the slardar black hole on an 8 sec CD meme
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>>173750709
but does it allow for clutch mlg plays with a 5-man RP into blckhole into chronosphere with a chainfrost for a 10 second team wipe?
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>>173750709
Slardar doesn't do 600+70% of the enemy's max HP as damage through BKB.
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>>173750282
learn him offlane

take him to jungle if the lane is bad or you have a 4 that needs XP and get him ahead

midas into whatever the fuck you need
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what did he mean by this?
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>>173735356
BETWEEN THE PLANES
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>enemy drafts OP meta heroes
>your team decides to try and create the meta with hit heroes
>game is a guaranteed loss
what does the average dotard do during one of these games? what makes a man d/c and hover the mouse on the abandon button and press it, all in the instance of around 3 seconds?
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>>173751872
Well, I pick the best counter and hope that the other team is all shitters too,
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I'm in a game right now and somebody is bullying somebody on my team so hard I legit feel so bad for him
I feel like I'm witnessing an abusive parental relationship this is so bad I feel so bad
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>monkey
>pos 4 "support"
>scaling crit + stun
>ursa passive + lifesteal
>core items are basher, deso, echo, shadow blade
>win most 1v1 if enemy does not have hard disable
So how hard will the Kang be nerfed in next patch?
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>>173752704
tell him not to be a douche and play the fucking game. Also ask if the enemy team could report him
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>>173752704
fuck with the flamer by messing up his farm until he burns up from pure seething rage
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>>173752704
nitpick his play, make fun of his kda if it's mediocre/bad
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>>173752839
>>173752881
>>173752959
I didn't say anything.
I just watched in silent awkward horror as he laid into this guy calling him a failure and how his parents should be ashamed of him until the game ended.
I'm a bad person.

time to requeue and forget
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>>173753097
i am disspont in u ano n
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>>173753097
if you really want to do something nice, leave a comment on the abused guy's profile saying something nice or saying they played well
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>>173753097
come now, anon
the guy probably wouldn't still be playing dota if he hadn't already gotten used to getting an earful from thirdie vermin
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>Doom: DOOM now prevents channeling.
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>>173753730
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>>173753413
hi Maut, do you who's casting at Kiev?
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>join solo match
>teammate warns me that a peruvian on the other team is good
>shrug it off, pic arc mid
>he's laning MK against me
>playing decently but I push him out and get
>instead, because his hero is personified autism, he goes top and randomly kills kunkka twice
>despite me spamming missing calls
>earlier teammate playing axe pipes up with a beta voice about how fucking shit I am
>no one bothers to help me after this
>whole team spamming "ez mid" despite losing their lanes
>MK kills me several more times because MK
>axe is now basically shouting at me and whining in allchat
>tell him to kill himself and feed mid to annoy him
>they miraculously end fast
>axe gets an easy helix kill when MK is no longer trying
>says he's personally won and acts like he isn't asshurt
>proceeds to threaten to make a forum post about me to get me banned
>kek
>report him
>join new match
>MK peruvian on other team
>lane mid against him as arc again
>completely wreck his ass and win easy
>"gg wp arc pls edn fast"
>action has been taken popup at post game screen

this is the worst fucking game ever made and i wish i found it sooner
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Uhmm......what support should I pick in this patch?
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>>173754325
riki
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>>173754325
hot monkey dick, tree man
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>>173754258
>Arc mid
You have good taste in heros, Anon. Though you're also a massive faggot for feeding like a little bitch because you don't know how to mute assholes
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>>173754258
>get matched against a 5 man stack
>lose horribly
>queue again
>get matched against the same 5 man stack
>lose horribly
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>>173754325
Shadow Shaman, you transition from supp to nuker when you hit level 25
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>>173754376
>riki
I have less than 40% winrate with him roaming, I don't even know what I'm doing wrong. I just loss.

>>173754427
>monkey king
Wasn't him super nerfed in 7.05? I just played him with bots though

How about rhasta or lich?
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>>173753930
>no more tp
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>>173754714
MK is still an unholy terror during laning regardless of his nerf. Shadow Shaman and Lich are also good. Lich has a great slow and buff, while SS has the best cc skills in the game right now. Wiith a sheepstick and octarine and his -3s shackles cd talent, you have infinite hard disable.
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>>173754714
he was nerfed but he's still viable

also every single one of shadow shaman's spells are amazing, but his low range on his disables are fatally bad at times
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just played my first game as phantom assassin, holy shit no wonder there's a pa in every game i fucking play. i have never stomped that hard before.

what is optimal build? i went phase into deso into abyssal and then i bought bkb for the comp i was facing
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>>173755187
that's about it. Good job, Anon.
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>>173754452
tbqhwu the game was already lost at that point, MK actually was pretty decent but my whole team had stopped trying
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>>173755330
haha jokes on you, i only posted my blog to get approval from anons on a chinese cartoon board

e
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>>173755187
>i bought bkb
congratulations, you are officially smarter than the overwhelming majority of PA players that pub balance is centered around, enjoy your MMR
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>>173754258
I prefer arc carry, im not good at mid

But good taste anon, show them Arc is hero for patricians and MK for third world monkeys
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>>173753930
>>173754889
holy shit
who /senile/ here?
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>>173755537
i love arc carry but god damn is it hard to last hit with his low damage
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Is the telltale sign of an MMR assassin when a teammate picks any one of these heroes?

Winter Wyvren
Broodmother
Nature's Prophet
Leshrac
AA
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>>173755374
still not an excuse for you to stop trying too. I've had memeback games where out throne was burning and one hit from death.
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>>173755909
fuck off baddie
only broodmother is the only bad hero there
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>>173755969
>only broodmother is the only bad hero there

MMR assassin detected. I also forgot Rubick
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>>173755820
not with two of you and a wraith band. Reminder that his ult doubles your damage output for 14/16/18 seconds on a 60/50/40 second cd
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>>173756031
oh yeah with your ult it's fine, but my problem is 1-5
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>>173756023
why are you trying so hard to force the "mmr assassin" meme expression?
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>>173756103

I wonder who is behind this post
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>>173756079
I build aquila for last hitting early. Basilius, to be more precise.
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>>173755909
>Winter Wyvern
amazing support
>Broodmother
garbo unless using spiderlings for jungle, tehn she's pretty alright and gives great map control
>Nature's Profit
right clicks like a motherfucker and can rat hard
>Leshrac
OP as hell, you're just bad
>AA
another fantastic support, again; you're just bad
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>>173756192
i usually try to rush midas as fast as possible, i tried aquila but i like to have midas around the time of my first ult, or second
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>>173756210
t. assassin of the mmr variety.
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>>173755909
winter wyvern is really good
not as good as the days of her old winter's curse version but still quite good
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>>173756079
but claraties and skill flux, spark wraith, flux, spark wraith in that order, then poke the hell out of their mid. He's sleeper OP and a natural tower melter buy manta, you'll thank me later, just wait until some fag picks him at Kiev.

>>173756360
t. mad cause bad :^)
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>>173755537
>>173755820
arc mid basically is pos1 now with the talents and midas changes, you get your midas, fuck up the enemy team a few times and by 30 minutes you will be a raid boss

>>173755920
come backs are always possible, but the axe i reported is in LP now for a reason. it would have just been exhausting
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>>173756347
Sometimes if you rush midas too fast you might be easy target.
I also try to rush midas, but if im laning against a duo offlane, or just getting ganked too much, i just go items that help me survive. Aquila, boots, and rain drops. Good investment in my opinion.
Of course i get my midas later, but its not like im less stronger before my midas. its not 100% necessary to get it early.
Once i get midas, th gpm explodes. two minutes later, another item.
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>>173756471
Which pro player do you think will pick him first, if at all?

>>173756347
rushing midas isn't too good an idea. Get the usual wraith band into Aquila. If you're good at last hits and poking, getting midas should be a breeze. Don't rush it if the other guys are trying to shut you down. I like going for a casual medallion of courage if I'm getting ganked every other minute
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>>173755909
WW and AA are good supports, NP is viable now and brood/lesh are just very situational, nothing inherently wrong with them

if you want autism picks see
>mirana
>first pick pudge
>rubick
>mirana
>void
>bristle
>mirana
>medusa
>mirana
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>>173756842
i remember old dota 1 days where the host was always the one that went mid with mirana, or pudge, or invoker.
In fact, old dota 1 days mid fight were always pudge vs invoker
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>>173756842
>Mirana
it's always sad to see a star fall from glory. What happened to her? Last time I picked her was 6.88
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>>173756776
>Which pro player do you think will pick him first, if at all?
**hopefully none because he's getting strong as fuck for pub games and i don't want him nerfed**
but if i had to guess, probably meracle
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>>173728234
Kinda late on that front most hotels get booked within the 1st week of ticket sales
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>>173757136
I know the feeling, I only recently figured out how to micro him properly, and I always end up stomping in lane and winning the game if my team didn't fall apart. they fall apart a lot

>>173728234
make an internet friend in the area and crash at his place for the week. like >>173757193 said, if you don't book a room with your ticket you're pretty fucked.
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>>173757051
some things never change
>>173757054
she's just a jack of all trades that isn't situationally ideal in most cases, but retards still pick her because she makes mediocre players feel like MLG pros
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Any tips on how to get out of 2k?
I know I have to get good but the team picks at this level look like they pick to throw. I stopped picking core because sometimes you can have 4 or more cores on a team but then you also get cores who do weird things like in my last game, I was safelane supp and the lc would keep jungling instead of staying in lane leaving me alone and he would also take the stacks I wanted to use for pulling.
Didn't mean to rant but I guess I'm fucking tilted.
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>>173757697
Literally
Just get good

I got "stuck" at 3k. Got discouraged, just went and played unranked for hundreds of hours. Now I'm playing ranked again and I'm snowballing through games, nobody knows how to lane, itemization is shit, you can punish people relentlessly at this MMR and nobody knows how to handle it.
I'm stomping with heroes I'm bad with, and obliterating games with heroes I'm good with.
>fed a 1k gold streak at minute 20 because I was being cocky and didn't see Nyx had a Dagon (and brown boots lul)
>doesn't matter we're so far ahead and they're so terrible they just buy retarded shit like upgrading more Dagon so he can go OoM in 2 spells and die instantly as soon as carapace wears off
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>>173757697
Techies, and do nothing but mine up your half of the map. Games may go for two hours, but I can guarantee you'll win eventually.
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>>173757697
Look, people get stuck and their mmr because they think they play good.
They dont. You need experience, just play, play, and play more. Doesnt matter if ranked or unranked, but if you play ranked, you will lose.
yeah maybe you can read stuff like "you need to optimize your farming by doing this, this and this", but in practice, its different. Its always different.
You need to reach a point where you do stuff, and you know its the right choice but you dont think about it. You just do it.
>>
i lost 250mmr tonight
ama
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>>173758761
skill bracket(s)?
Heros?
quality of team?
lmao y r u so bad
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>>173758018
I did that and now I have the opposite problem that he has, I only play unranked now because those games are actually fun. I used to be three digit level retarded and now I get paired with 2-3ks in unranked, and have no trouble shitting on them. At this point playing with the sub-1ks is literal torture, they're so fucking stupid that the way they play is indistinguishable from trolling. There is a reason so many people have smurf accounts at this level, it's hilarious to watch.
Would compendium recalibrating be worth it?
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>>173759075
no, because you wouldn't be able to climb back up
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>>173758861
3k
variety
all over the place
had a 13 game win streak last week
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>unranked
>lowest person i've played with is 2900
>highest 8001
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Why did Icefrog change techies in the way he did? It does almost nothing to address his major problem in that every game he is in is delayed by up to several hours because xd you can't push up into endless stasis traps and proximity mines and remote mines.
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>>173759807
>2k mmr
>play with 4 and 5k's in unranked
>ranked games are unbearable torture
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>>173759943
I'm one of those 4ks that play unranked with 2ks like you.

Let me tell you mate, it is not a pleasant experience.
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>>173757697
>>173758018
>>173758650
This.The whole "mo ooga team booga" mindset is too common in these 3k shitters who think they're good because they watch rtz stream, but just minor improvements into technical skill and playing heroes who punish bad positioning will get you ez wins.
t. former ~2.2k shitter who is now 5k
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>>173759943
>>173760595
you just need to play ranked more, remember that unranked has a hidden mmr. You're probably 4-5k in unranked while your ranked mmr was neglected
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Just lost a game because our spec went echo sabre into blademail.
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>>173761005
>Spectre
>Echo sabre
Did edji make another the only way to play video?
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>>173728756
Ult doubles his passive
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>>173760595
yeah im sitting at 54% winrate in my very high skill games
sucks to be you i guess
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No progress again, feels bad.
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>>173761210
and they say lol copies dota :^)
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>>173761525
>support
there's your problem
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>>173758018
>>173758083
>>173758650
>>173760837
Yea I understand I am at the level where I'm at. It's just so frustrating especially with new dota where 1v9 isn't as OP as before. I actually get good kda as a core but sometimes the team is too hard to carry which is why I switched.
Guess I'll return to playing core and continue learning.
>>
>10 mins since last post
Its gg
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>>173761525
>th
>lich
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The new list

>monkey king
>implying
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>>173762275
>Implying Lich is a bad hero
Ice armour, frost blast and free deny every wave would like to have a word with you
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I heard you were talking shit about BSJ.
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>>173762275
>sam "the fat jew fag" hyde
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>>173762463
seven kills on the offlaner before 20 minutes < forced displacement and silence
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>>173762881
>young man are you practicing you last hits like I told you to
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>>173762478
deny is literally a free midas, the xp from that creep goes to you
Level your E until you can snag the range creep from every wave, then buy midas to grab their range creep. Laugh as you and your carry both advance by two levels and transition to a tanky right clicker with level 20+25 talents
Lich is kind of a shit support but he's a pubstomp extraordinaire
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>>173763135
I haven't touched ranked since the spaghetti incident so he's my goto if we have a stronk offlaner. Else pick Dazzle, else else pick Shadow Shaman
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>>173755909
christ dude, you just reminded me how OP leshrac is probably right now because of tranquils

def gonna jump into a couple games with him after i finish my project
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We're back.
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>>173763432
>PSG making a decent play
what is this bullshit
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>>173763340
>right now because of tranquils

But tranquils were nerfed
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>>173763612
just showing off my girlfriend i should have spirit siphoned all 3 people but then i probably wouldve got blinded by dorito dust flying around
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>>173763432
why is krob-chan so perfect?
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>>173763976
remember that DP is NOT sexy or cute she is a SPOOPY WITCH
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>>173764040
But witches are cute!
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>>173764075
can u identify all the witch hats in the recent episode of little witch academia where it showed a bunch of witch hats hanging up

i was bamboozled
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>>173724926
>any hero
any hero that doesn't have bkb or force staff
>>
what are some fun heroes to play on your birthday /d2g/?
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>>173764183
>be psg
>click this
>get real I mean REAL hecka mad

DELETE THIS NOW
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>>173763432
>charging into exorcist ghosts

As expected of sub-3k ooga boogas
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>>173764360
ultimately the reason i love this hero
>exorcism used to come out so fast that you could out dps an equally farmed and leveled troll warlord at 16, if you used exorcism when he started hitting you
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>>173764360
well they would have been fine if not for the absolutely retarded goodPugnaUlt
fuck this spell honestly
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>>173764505
but the slow doesn't even pierce bkb anymore :^)
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>random Disruptor
>my best hero
>smoke and get first blood on south american invoker
>tp in at night with dust and kill him again
>he starts insulting me in his monkey speak
>kill him again with ult when he tries to help defend top tower
>salt.gif
>win

God I fucking love both the soft region lock and Disruptor. And shitting on Invoker pickers.
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>>173764505
still, that spell is also there to punish people with tunnel vision who are hellbent on killing you instead of scattering and then going back to murder your ass
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>>173763432
Tales of the trench.
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>>173764183
>He thinks this is sexy
Show me on the doll where /d/ touched you, Anon.
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>>173764729
>the way he isn't centered in the little rune dish

i hhhhehehe'd
>>
>the old dota map
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>>173764883
>necro ults me
>have lotus orb on
>i have low hp so i know it's gonna 1hit him
>get all excited
>it does 0 damage to him since he has full health, because it reflects the actual skill instead of the damage from the skill
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>>173764883
what the fuck killed that Tinker? One second he had hp, the next he was dead. Also rip Shadow Shaman
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>>173764995
Lotus orb + dagon
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>>173764995
dagon on lotus orb
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>>173764995
Lotus Orb on Weaver + Dagon 5 Tinker + MKB Deso Weaver + Bash
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>>173765123
what the hell happened there, how'd they find him?
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>>173764995
Also Shadow Shaman is really fucking good right now, what are you talking about?
>the last webm I made before 7.00 hit
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>>173765210
In your webm, a Spirit Breaker and Weaver just found a Shadow Shaman alone.

I don't think he would have survived that encounter buffed or not.
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>>173765198
Ward on the ward spot, if you look closely you'll see Void narrowly avoids a hook on the second jump. You can just barely see the red outline.
Also they were chasing me so they knew my general area even without the ward.
>the first webm I made
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>>173765319
you should find that old match id and remake it, but with a "to be continued" overlay just before the scythe hits
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>>173765306
Shadow Shaman is on the Dire's team anon.
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>>173765426
>all these webms
>spectator panel left open in every one

you are not doing me proud son and i deleted all the psg webms why isnt someone properly taking up the chain yet
>>
>>173765319
>>173765426
what game is this?
>>
i need a small pool of heroes to use in all circumstances to raise up

i wanna do a last serious attempt at the game before giving up

not only i'm not progressing, i'm going backwards
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>>173765419
Oh man that'd almost be funny.
But even if the replay wasn't long dead at this point the replay would be broken and unwatchable.

>>173765512
These are all at least a year old, my newest one I remembered to close the Spectator Panel.
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>>173765565
>that lifestealer
lmao, what a fucking moron. I wonder what was going through his head as all of your teammates tp'd onto him
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>>173765559
>i need a small pool of heroes to use in all circumstances to raise up

So you want heroes that are literally good in EVERY lineup. Here you go farm, these "jack of all trade" heroes tend to outclass 5-6 "specialist" heroes apiece:

Magnus
Pudge
Invoker
Silencer
Weaver
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>>173765565
Man, Dota used to look so different.
I'm becoming depressingly nostalgic right now.
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>>173765525
Defense of the Ancients 2, it's what Dota2 is based on, although they took heavy liberties with balance and general mechanics. Comeback mechanics are insane in Dota2 while Defense of the Ancients 2 was pretty punishing and if you let the enemy Anti Mage freefarm he would just 1v5 you by minute 40.
All in all I think it's an okay spiritual successor, but it'll never be as good as the game it was based on.
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>>173765685
>>
>>173765559
>>173765717
his concept is sound but the list of heroes he gave is absolute garbage

focus on what he said but the heroes you shuold be thinking about are basically all offlaners

windrunner
axe
centaur
tide

is a good kit. because the main thing your average pub team needs is INITIATION. centaur was stealth op forever and tanky offlaners took something of a hit from tranqs nerf but doesnt matter that much.
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>>173765717
I'd add rubick and venge to that list
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>>173765838
>picking rubick as a general purpose hero

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>173765821
He didn't even try to escape though. Had I been in that situation and heard four fucking tp's behind me you bet your ass I would have run as far away as possible
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>>173765835

>WR
BadPA
>tide
BadCent/BadSlar

Eziest -25 mmr of your life
Axe and centaur can literally be played only offlane, or -25 mmr if you want to jungle them. Axe CAN jungle stupid fast but he won't be able to

I can conceive of drafts where an axe or tide would be retarded. I can't think of a SINGLE draft where pudge or silencer for example wouldn't absolutely fit just fine
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>>173765717
>>173765835
>>173765838
I'd say Shadow Shaman and Disruptor are also great supports in any lineup. They combo real well, but don't need to combo to do their job either.

Also Juggernaut is THE generic carry. He doesn't require any teammates to function, and is actually a fantastic splitpusher especially now that splitpushing got buffed. He can take rax real fast once he has a few items, great farming, great teamfight, great escape.

>>173765920
Well no matter what he did he was dead. He didn't have a blink, guess he could have hopped in a creep with Infest and hoped for the best but tunnel vision and probably some panicking was involved.
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>>173765941
>I can't think of a SINGLE draft where pudge or silencer for example wouldn't absolutely fit just fine

then you're fucking god awful at dota, because both of those heroes are not flex picks like that, especially silencer
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>>173765998
I actually prefer Centuar, he may not be a one man army so to speak, but you need at least three people and 10 seconds of hard disable to properly kill him late game. Even in the midgame sometimes, if he got decent farm. I started using him way back when I was starting dota, because I sow someone literally stomp us into hte dirt with him, and discovered to my delight that he has one of the most bullshit escapes in the game stampede was one hell of a drug and is extremely forgiving to mistakes so long as you get a pipe or cloak
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>>173765941
Centaur is an okay jungler, the main problem is it forces you into a less than idea skill build. Return isn't very useful compared to Double Edge or Hoof Stomp early. I get a value point in it just to make the enemy support take some counter harass and to maybe set them up for a double edge kill if they get too aggressive.
But yeah, Centaur is such a strong laner, running him jungle is a waste. And a lot slower than someone like Axe or Bloodseeker or Enigma.

Axe is a great jungler most people just make the mistake of either staying there too long or not staying long enough. His clear is insanely fast, and blink blademail is free kills.
A lot of Axes I see get blink and try to farm their blademail with blink instead of getting a kill with the blink reveal then going back to jungle for a bit longer.

He CAN be a strong laner as well, but a lot of heroes that are meta right now just shit on the guy and he can't solo offlane against dual ranged unless they're retarded or something. He's best to run in a dual lane.
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>accidentally look at twitch chat
>someone asks why f means pay respects
>the answer the person gets is it's a meme
Why do people use memes if they don't even know how the meme be?
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>>173765998
disruptor is food to so many heroes he cannot be generally recommended like this either
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>>173766271
well to be fair some people are smart enough to avoid post MW3 Call of Duty
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>>173766271
are you aware that your daily speech is composed of thousands of memes basically?

do you know where they all came from?
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>>173766371
"yes"
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>>173766306
Wacha mean? He's weak to getting jumped on, but all supports are.
He's one of the few that can absolutely punish an enemy no matter how farmed they are for jumping on him, however.

He's one of the best counters to Slark in the game even. No other hero forces Slark to buy a BKB quite like Disruptor.
Glimpse is such a strong skill, it's why he's general use. No other support has catching power like Disruptor does, and his ult is game winning too. Especially with Aghs.
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>>173766428
wall of text doesnt change the fact that the hero is slow has bad turn rate has bad armor has bad hp even among supports
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>>173766371
yeah but that crowd control tho
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>>173766540
What? He has average health and armor for a ranged support. Also 300 movespeed which is higher than a lot of supports.

He's pretty par for the course as far as stats go. He has above average skills, Thunder Strike does 160 damage at level 1 and he has 600 attack range, making him extremely good at level 1 trading/kills/early lane in general. Glimpse is retardedly good, static field is retardedly good, static storm is amazing.
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>When your team opts in for an aggro offlane, leaving you defenseless bottom against a bully offlaner
>When you inevitably lose your lane horribly and your entire team bullies you for not having fuck for networth because you couldn't lane
>When you lose the t1 tower before 10 minutes as a consequence
>When your team all chats "gg report (You)" because of this
I hate the 3k bracket.
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NEW DRAGON KNIGHT AGHS

Dragon knight becomes the next level of dragon (green becomes red, and red becomes blue), blue dragon becomes a black dragon who does pure damage instead of physical, crits, lifesteal, and other attack modifier still apply.
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>>173766804
Fucking hell man you couldn't think of anything less OP?
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>>173766540
>>173766756
Also, his cast range is HUUUUUUUGE. Most supports have 400-700 cast range on their stuff. Their stronger spells also have lower cast range generally.
Not Disruptor, his lowest cast range is 800 and his stuff has fuckhueg AOE to boot, a talent that increases cast range by a further 100 (which isn't that good but 60gpm is laughable), and Aether Lens combos extremely well with his already massive cast range, the talent, and his +10% Spell Amp talent.
His 400HP talent is also really great but that gets down to how much are you getting jumped on which to pick. I get both talents about 50/50, the extra damage is incredibly good but so is the extra health.
And Veil is an excellent item for Disruptor too. Armor, more spell amp, stats, regen, it's great.
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>Dragon Knight has 1.4 BAT during dragon mode
>Aghanisms makes breathe fire damage reduction from 35 to 60% and apply the dot from the green dragon and slow from the blue dragon while they are active
fixed to be honest
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>>173767012
>>173767012
so what your telling me is that all supports are viable in the right lineups, and have several options to use depending on how the game progresses?
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>>173767181
What a shitty aghs, why would anyone waste 4200 gold and an item slot on that?

>his nuke now does slightly more damage reduction and 20 damage per second!
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>>173732569
go see a therapist or some pussy depressed shit like that, get some help
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>>173767215
Viable but not optimal. Shadow Demon is a lot less powerful if there's no stat heavy heroes to Disrupt, Skywrath can barely function against Pugna, Phoenix fares poorly against a lot of heroes that can either purge or don't care about Fire Spirit's attack slow, Dazzle is soft countered by Axe, there's basically no reason to pick Ancient Apparition unless you're doing it to counter Lifestealer or Alchemist.
Could go on.

There's no one hero that just makes Disruptor not function well. A lot of supports have bad matchups, and technically he does too, but it's shit like Sniper or PA that can kill him before he can get spells off.
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>>173767279
>fuckhueg aoe
>significant damage reduction
>100% uptime
>100 extra damage
>big aoe slow
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>>173767215
>>173767443
Which is just the way those heroes work, I mean. It's not really a counter specific to Disruptor. It's just PA with her bullshit daggers of 1400 damage that shit on most of the heroes in the game.
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>>173767516
>getting aghs on a core so he can have a BadDuelBreath
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>>173765123
I have ptsd from the first spot ever since I time walked and chronod in there years ago.
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>>173767702
>situational upgrade instead of 100% mandatory requirement
what's wrong with that?
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>>173761525
We have the same taste in heroes and the same mmr.

What items do you get on silencer?
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Why doesn't Icefrog just make Warpath an active ability so the whole hero isn't killed by Break?
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>>173768076
Mostly just treads, wand, force staff, atos. Really boring items, I rarely can afford many late game items because I'm a hard position 5.
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>>173766271
WutFace Kappa 123 admiralBackpack
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can someone post sheever's feet? or just sheever in general?
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>>173732373
>bone7 on a team that wants to win majors
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>>173768190
Same as you, treads wand force staff most of the times.
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why does every fucking eastern european shitskin have to use voice and whine like a 12 year old in their shit language no one else understands
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Reminder that you don't get better by gaining MMR, you get better by learning how to gain it.
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>15 days until kiev
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>look through past 20 games
>WW was in 10 of them
>the team with her lost every time

Why are people picking that trashcan?
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>all I play is Dota and mobage idol games on my phone

Why do I only get addicted to free games but rarely spend more than a week on retail games?
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>>173771348
>assfaggots on mobile
what's your poison of choice? Best I can find is Vainglory, and that's because it isn't a blatant league rip and tries something new and different rather than the normal three lane 5v5 set up
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>>173765998
>>173765838
>>173765835
>>173765717
thanks for the responses

summing it up a bit following my preferences:

vengeful spirit
pudge
silencer
axe
centaur
juggernaut
slardar

i cant stand weaver for some reasons and have no time to learn invoker even if it would be cool
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Which is the easiest hero to play, but at the same time the hardest to actually master?
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>>173773897
teggies obviously
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>>173773897
slark comes to mind
easy to play against retards, hard to play against non-retards
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why is there such a large gap in mmr between people in the same team in unranked ? i literally get matched with people with 200 matches

i think they should consider hours/matches played too
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>>173728756
dragon blood armor and health regen bonus from 3/6/9/12 to 5/10/15/20
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never forget
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>>173774316
>implying you don't get exactly the same thing in ranked with rampant account boosting
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icefrog here
legion commander will show enemies if she has duel off cd with a exclamation mark above her head
y/y?
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>>173773897
invoker and techies are the easiest of high skill heroes
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Just finished 3 starring this whole tree.
What's your excuse for not having done it, dotards?
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>>173774730
XD
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icefrog here
you get a warning sound if an invisible hero gets in 600 range of you
y/y?

preview of sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzY099ihULs
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>>173775245
is there better thing than techies picker tears?
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>>173775461
people getting buttblasted when I pick techies on their team after they've demanded him to be nerfed into the ground
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>>173775461
>admitting to being a 0k tard that can't buy wards
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>>173775161
>giving nu-valve money
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>enemy team has smurf Lycan
>tries the autistic 1v9 tower push simulator play
>doesn't realize that were on a bracket where people start to have some sort of map awareness
>constantly gets 3/4/5 man ganked before he even reaches t2's
>calls everyone on our team retards and ragequits at 30 min

so this is the power of smurfs... whoah...
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>>173775753
No it's the power of that kike Icefrog ruining dota
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>>173775613
eh, i can play against him just fine, although i would rather not
it's just his mainers are so autistic they whine ten times louder than every other hero spammer when their favorite trio gets nerfed
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I'm at 2.7k mmr and climbing out. At what mmr does the suffering end?
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>>173775937
techies was dumpster tier shit for years, and when i finally became decent he got nerfed again
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Offlane Ursa is so fucking good. holy shit. He can harrass any melee carry out of lane and if the lane is hard he can just go jungle and come back when the lane is pushed closer to his tower. Remember me when this is the new meta
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>>173776186
that shit would not work even in my 4k trench games
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>>173775993
>At what mmr does the suffering end?
Suffering is proportional to mmr
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>>173776236
why not retard huuuuuuuuh??
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>>173776236
It works at 5k if they're not trilaning. I have 100% winrate with it
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>>173775993
>he thinks it gets better
LMAO
2k is comfiest bracket if you have high behaviour score dudester
games became progressively more toxic then you climbing peaking at 4.5k, it gets slightly better after that but not by much
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Offlane Necro is the new meta
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>>173776881
fuck off khezu, no its not
just cause your retard mid cant play necro, doesnt mean youre a metaforger
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>>173773897
invo is easy to master via muscle memory.
techies on the other hand is no doubt the real answer.

every game for a techies picker feels like a new beginning. (aside from memeplanting mines and ganking with suicide + proxy)
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>tfw nobody makes sheever webms anymore
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>>173776236
>4k
>offlane ursa not working

come on dude
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>>173777342
well yeah i forgot to clarify that i meant 4k EuW and not peru east/west
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>>173777247
That's because I stopped coming to these threads
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>>173777449
but why

I miss you
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should techies get -90s respawn time now that it's a lvl25 and not a lvl20 talent?
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>>173777915
Techies should get removed from the game.
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>>173777792
Because actually caring about life turns out to be better than shitposting with webms of a low level dota 2 celeb on a taiwanese basket-weaving website

Especially because I'm gay anyway so I just made these webms for fun lel
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>>173777961
are you done forever then? that's a shame

hope you have a good life
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>>173777961
Does your name start with P?
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>>173777961
>sheever confirmed to be so ugly no sane straight male would like her
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>>173778107
I started following dota again, but I don't watch every single tournament like I used to, which means I won't see webm-worthy Sheever moments. So unless there's gonna be something at TI I doub't I'll make them in the future, sorry breh, was a blast funposting with her though

And yes I do, thanks, hope you have a good life as well

>>173778120
Come on A you know I was Sheever-funposting all the time
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>>173778231
Yes i knew it was you but this could have been someone else, nerd
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>>173777961
why does she clap? what did she mean by this?
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>tfw can't stop spamming arc warden
Send help dotards, this hero is way too much fun to play
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>all non-germans in the EU are totally cucked and subservient to their Deutsch EuroFuhrer

>EU teams in DotA have no Germans

RMYT
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>>173777961
>PTA is off cooldown
what a SHITTY legion she probably has blademail too
I can't understand why people like this woman. She's not good at dota and she's not cute. Is she just the only person with boobs to take an interest in the autistic club's hobby? Is that her appeal?
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>no reddit hero
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>>173761549
Fun fact, LoL removed spell vamp but Dota still has spell lifesteal.
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>>173780007
>monkey king
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>>173777449
What the fuck is that? Why wouldn't you just use both hands and fix your hair????????
????
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>>173767316

>playing to win and not wanting to socialize with faggots in some dogshit game is bad
>see a therapist

you want to guess how i know youre a jew
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>>173780032
I've played a few rounds of league before with friends. They literally copy-pasted Reaper's Scythe multiple times onto different heroes, including their shitty Juggernaut ripoff. I'll bet they removed that because their spell design sucks ass and so spell lifesteal was broken in that game.
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>>173780262
Wouldn't doubt it seeing as they removed Deathfire Grasp (basically Orchid without the silence) a long while back. I just thought that was a funny technicality given how we used to harp on LoL for shit like that.
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>no sheever hero
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>>173779267

just wait til valve nerfs him into the ground because he does well at kiev or ti7

itll happen with all the buffs arc is getting
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>>173780450
I think frog realised that arc was already stopped being trash by 7.05 and hopefully won't buff him further but literally no pro other than lil has spammed him enough to demonstrate that they really mastered him.

Stupid fuckers will probably let the hero sit untouched when he's balanced because they're lazy and the second he gets strong enough for them to play he'll need a nerf bludgeon again.
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BTS has so many interns casting for them for free and they can't get one motherfucker to cast Fnatic vs. RR and WG.U?
Dead fukken game.
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>>173780262
It was broken so they had to rebalance it far too many times and its still retarded

>>173780332
>basically orchid without the silence
It was far better than orchid
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>>173781565
it basically cast maledict on the enemy target and their analytics showed them that like 4% of people ever used the active

the equivalent of one of the most powerful spell in dota and they didnt bother to use it. so the actual playing level/capability of most league players, in dota, would be under 1k (struggles to use item actives)
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>>173780728

what is your item/skill build on arc? what lane do you play him in?
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>>173781732
Not even maeldict, it did, at first, flat magic dmg and amplified damage afterwards for 5ish seconds by 20 or 30% if i remember, then they remade it so that the bonus damage doesnt scale with ap and neither does the bonus amplify damage % as well, then they rebalanced it a few more times and at the end made it so that it takes a max hp % of enemy it was cast on which scaled with ap as well! and amplify damage for some duration as well and after lot of discussion with the pros and 'balance team' they removed it
And not sure about how many people use or didnt use the active
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>>173781529
Nobody ever claimed BTS was competent.
Given the free and open nature of Dota "casting", if you thought you and your friends could do a better job than they do, then there's quite literally nothing stopping you from doing so and potentially becoming the next big thing.
Nobody actually gives a shit though so we have to deal with the jew's studio.
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maq ass
best ass
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>>173782214
I'd say you need to attach yourself to a studio if you want in on the game lobbies, otherwise you'd have to buy tickets and/or cast from DotaTV which means you won't be heard through the ingame client. Then there's also events hiring studios like MoonDuck or BTS, I don't know if standalone casters like Lysander or Mikelorus or whatever will ever get onto something like an ESL because the management thought they did a good job.
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>>173782447
Didn't Lysander go to TI? I thought he was climbing up.
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hey guys im a dusa picker pls rate my meme
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>>173781894
mid/safe is best. He used to be played offlane in wc3 dota and against shitters it's still viable if you're experienced.

Start wraith band or basi, finish RoA+boots into midas and maelstrom. You'll want mjollnir, BoTs and one of blink/force/shadowblade in an order you see fit before continuing further. After that your bread and butter lategame items are bloodthorn, mkb, hex, silver edge, pike, and rarely things like eblade, butterfly, manta, linkens, bkb, octarine, necrobook. Building to counter enemies is important since arc warden is very reliant on having the correct items for the game.

You can deviate with things like early shadowblade or orchid if you really need fighting items fast or into memebuilds like the old necro first deathpush, manta radiance octamemes, dagon eblade (semi-viable both as pure magic/utility or as a hybrid rightclicker) or going full utility with shit like lotus, atos, pipe if you're offlane and your team collectively picked retarded shit.
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>>173782918
>no bloodstone, no octarine
Gb2memeschool
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>>173781894
Mid/safelane, found myself really liking safelane recently, arc is stupidly easy to gank in mid and some metapicks also do well against him
Skillbuild: lvl 1 depending on lane, max sparks first but 2 points on flux by 3, max flux second, field last, eveb talent before field
Items: aquila, brown boots, midas, mjollnir, travels, pike, skadi as my absolute core last 2 items situational, if I dont need anything specific those 2 will be butterfly, daedalus
Talents: attack speed, damage, range, lifesteal
>tfw arc is goodSniperX2
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>>173782972
im against am why would i do that
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Why are you still playing Heroes of the Storm
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>>173783227
>7k hours
jesus christ
what mmr were you at least before you quit?
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>>173783028
>daedalus when arc warden is literally the best bloodthorn carrier in the game
>butterfly when any rightclicker with a brain wants to go mkb against you already
bit iffy my man though daedalus is fine if you trust your team

I also prefer the CD talent over range, his ult cooldown is the biggest limiting factor of the hero and the range can get wasted easily when the clone is usually deep in the action and the main hero has somewhat limited fight participation anyway.

I've never tried skadi because I don't find survivability really helps on him at all. Probably worth it against bkbs though.

What's your mmr and total arc games?
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>>173780174
Does Sunsfan have a heart condition? His face is always weirdly pink
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>>173783241

low priority
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>>173783343
The logic behind all that is that you also fight with the main hero and not just use him as a double-bot.
Skadi, pike and range talent makes it work. Butterfly is just there as a general good dps item, also melee carries dont get mkb, they just run into your field, but evasion is just added bonus anyway.
I went away from bloodthorn because it is stupidly expensive and also easy to deal with. He's an awesome carrier that's true, but there are so many dispels and ways to deal with it daedalus is just a more consistent item. It also gives constant dps not just the active, and fits better into the focus of my build, added bonus, 1.5k cheaper.
I haven't played that many games wih this build yet, but since I started it my winrate went up a lot, 70% with that right now across like 20 games. 4.5k mmr.
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>still no casters of colour or gender diversity

Absolutely activating my neurons cell.
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>>173783227
feels bad man

who /quitfag/ here?
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>>173783028

what is the best way to use ult w/ this build
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>>173782659
As a spectator maybe
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>>173783708
fogged
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On the basis of expert analysis by the Ukrainian Language Institute under the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine regarding the Roman-letter correspondence to the Ukrainian language geographic name of Kiev, taking into account that the spelling Kyiv is indeed in the modern practice of Ukraine’s international communication, proceeding from the urgent need to standardize the recreation of Ukrainian proper names through Roman letters tn the context of Ukraine’s integration into the world legal realm, based on point 6 part 4(b) of the Provision on the Ukrainian Commission for Legal Terminology approved by decree No 796 of the President of Ukraine on August 23, 1995 "Regarding the Provision on the Committee for Legislative Initiatives under the President of Ukraine, on the Ukrainian Codification Commission and on the Ukrainian Commission for Legal Terminology", the Commission HAS APPROVED:

1. To acknowledge that the Roman spelling of Kiev does not recreate the phonetic and scriptural features of the Ukrainian language geographical name.

2. To confirm that spelling of Kyiv as standardized Roman-letter correspondence to the Ukrainian language geographical name of Êè¿â.

3. On the basis of point 7 of the Provision on the Ukrainian Commission for Legal Terminology, determine as mandatory the standardized Roman-letter spelling of Kyiv for use in legislative and official acts.

4. The resolution to be effective from the moment of its approval.
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>>173782918
>>173783065
>against am
>doesnt build radi

are you fucking retarded
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>>173783227
I am not

>tfw this year TI might be the first one I will not watch.
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>>173783737
You play 2 snipers/ranged lds basically. You spawn double, sit in your field with both and attack at 865 range with skadi slows.
The safe version of just sending double to splitpush, gank or weaken enemies before a defense works anyway. Most of the time it even works better because the clone is just such cancer: tanky, slows, steals life, still a lot of damage and mjollnir shield, there arent easy ways to deal with it. The standard squishy double with bloodthorn can get killed, dealt with by euls/lotus etc - my doubles are like actual lategame carries that need real attention, even though you dont want to blow important spells/items on it.
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>>173783708
who is Fogged
who is Owen Abdul Al Baser "OD" Davies
who is Lacoste
who is Capitalist

stupid fucking kike.
We're diverse enough.
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i struggle with hotkeys

when i have multiple active items and gotta use them my brain collapses

what to do? do you guys practice that?
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>>173784243
buy only skadi and sny
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>>173782918
>i build rightclick items on my carry guys check my meme build xdd
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>jugg on my team goes pms brown boots vanguard blink yasha
>ends the game with these items at 52 minutes
>check his profile
>836 games
>67 average last hits

was a teenage white guy trying hard to sound like a nigger and his name was "xboneowner"

what the fuck is this what's going to happen to dota now?
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>>173784441
not sure if wins or losses
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>>173784659

thats the american version of the average russian player
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>>173784441
>dotabuff changed it so you cant make a swastika with ending items after one of the russian teams did it in an official game they got stomped in
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>>173784243
play support, you will git gud in no time
how is that even hard?
active items such as mek,shiva and crimson gets a priority on checking everytime a clash starts
then veil euls dag fs blademail when going aggressive
glimmer manta lotus orb bkb when you feel danger
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>>173784813
oh, yeah, he went arcanes too.
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>>173727752
but doom aghs can consume it
and wait for doom to use it
and then steal it and use it against weaver
ti8 strat
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>>173783708
valve hates niggers
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>>173785672

>valve hates niggers
>does nothing but buff chen and legion who are niggers
>newest hero is monkey king
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>>173785896
>monkeys are niggers xddd
>>>/pol/
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>>173727752
you forgot
>melee range
>2 seconds duration
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>>173726993
50hp regen is like having a FREE voodoo restoration on you permanently
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>get carried hardcore by a SF
>he advertises his boosting website in all chat at the end
Gee Valve thanks for bringing the boosters to my 2K bracket with your bullshit
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>>173786047
Late in the game you approach a thousand dps, so 50hp regen isn't that much.
Really great early, it's Alch's ult and all. But burst > regen
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doom is good on offlane
start with shield tango pot mango

blue satyr: 100 mana burn 16s cooldown aka free lane to farm
golem: free 125 damage every 30 seconds

buy arcanes
consume the harpy that makes u zeus
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>>173786218
>free
>go OoM in 2 spells

I always hope for a Tormentor for that sweet sweet HP regen and his nuke is alright. Max Scorched Earth first, as long as they don't have a lot of nuke you shouldn't die. Can even get kills if they don't have a lot of stun.
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>>173785896
>changing numbers applicable to database entries associated with a darker colored texture files is loving nignogs
valve is REDPILLED
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>>173786218
>arcanes
>not Phase

Lern 2 manage mana. Don't pop your spells except to not die or kill someone. Farming with Devourer is acceptable but if you max devour first you're retarded.

Greedy Doom is shit because your fighting potential is extremely gated to the early game and late game. Make an impact early on before your lack of armor and attack speed hurts more than your above average hp pool and high magic damage.
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>>173786218
>go offlane doom
>wrong creeps spawned
>lose lane
>lose game because you are doom
consumable that let you get specific creep spawn WHEN
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>>173778120
>P

LMAO SHEEVER POSTER IS LITERALLY A GAY PAJEET.
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what if doom can devour roshan
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>>173786903
free linken's sphere and skull basher
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>>173786981
>still not viable
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>>173786981
its betterBasher though
rosh can stun buildings
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>>173786362
>go oom in 2 spells
wrong
get good
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>>173786903
what if you used devour on aghs antimage and antimage devoured lucifer the doom instead?
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>>173787107
Doom is dumb as hell.
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>>173786891
Not even close to pajeet
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>>173779893
leaf genocide
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>>173787342
Proof, Pajeet.

Post your left hand.

>inb4 washes the shit off before taking the photo
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>>173787535
Im not the guy you think i am
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>>173786903
>chen level 25 talent
>can dominate roshan
Check in the mail, blizzard. Check in the mail.
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No matter what you build on Viper you're lacking something real bad. If the game goes past 30 min you lose

>Squishy as fuck
>Slow as fuck
>Needs initiation
>Needs sustain/regen
>Needs attack speed/damage
>Terrible at farming

Recommend me a build that doesn't suck dick on Viper. Yes I've checked dotabuff and the only intriguing ones are Midas.
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I'm the best dota player in my country

I bet you gays cant say that about yours
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>>173788434
best player here in Botswana ama
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>>173788172
Pike, bkb, ac, butterfly, skadi/deso/daedalus/mkb
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>>173789330
Lmfao 2.5k
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Is this the build now?
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Anyone of these worth getting good at if I want to win?
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>>173788172
>Squishy as fuck
he is one of the tankiest ranged cores if you don't die too much
>Slow as fuck
that' true, i like going phase boots early on and getting pike (and sometimes sny) after
>Needs initiation
well that's most carries problem, you have your teammates for that, also pike helps too
>Needs sustain/regen
he doesn't need it much early on but you can get bottle if you having trouble with that, later you can get satanic
>Needs attack speed/damage
so does every carry
>Terrible at farming
go maelstrom first
so you ideal build is something like phase boots/aquilla/stick into maelstrom into hurricane pike into whatever carry items you want
his main issue past 7.00 was terrible talents tree but it got a lot better with free two platemails at level 25
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>>173788172
Silver Edge
Shivas
Butterfly
Skadi
Pike
Take the 20 armor talent at 25.
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>>173789330
Lol at those super pricey items on a hero that's only good in early-mid game.

Even a fucking crystal maiden will just walk away from you if you come.
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>>173789363
>recommend me a build guys
>except this one, this is bad for sure xd
Nice meme
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>>173789620
>plays Viper
>doesn't completely dominate the lane getting freefarm with perfect denies
Then why'd you pick Viper that game?
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>>173789370
invoker, morph, arc warden, tb and meepo are like core "git gud = win" heroes
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>>173789370
>arc
>morph
>techies
>weaver
>tinker
>meepo
yes
>brood
maybe but she's the most situational hero in the game, it's entirely possible that you won't get more than a few chances to even pick her
>invoker
not anymore
>blood
yes if you are 1k
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Tell me again how forced 50 isn't real.
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>>173788172
Honestly desu rush a shadowblade after phase and then start killing everyone at 15 minutes.

After that just get regular ranged DPS items like pike and shit.

With Viper, you need to get 6 and get a shadowblade, and then shit on everyone. No one can stop you at that point
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>>173789364
radiance would be best carry item in the game if it had better buildup
>>173789370
medusa, tinker, weaver and bloodseeker below 4.5k
auntiemage, niggerling, terrorblade, lanaya, invoker, storm above 4.5k
wisp at 6k+
arc warden and meepo at every mmr if you have good micro
>>173790015
nice sample size fag
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>>173790015
just git gud and spam zet or some shit lmao
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did they remove gay ass shrines and talents yet?
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>>173790157
>building shadow blade on viper like its 2014 or something
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>173789385
My biggest issue is the sustain/regen. You have to go back to fountain or salve after every fight unless you buy morbid mask, you can't even take a jungle camp without losing 15% of your hp.

I'm gonna try Midas Shadow blade Morbid mask and take +175 health at level 10.

For a hero that is allegedly tanky, no one dies faster to magic nukes than fucking Viper. I swear that Corrosive Skin does nothing.
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>>173790015
>normal skill
Why do people still make bait posts in a dead thread?
also forced 50 isn't real
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>>173790247
why would they
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>>173790015
>.jpg
>normal skill
>forcing a niche roamer constantly
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>>173790347
because theyre gay and ruin dota
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>>173790258
Every team should have one hero build a Shadowblade
Not meming

The amount of money it costs the enemy supports is worth more than the Shadowblade

It ruins supports and that wins you games
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>>173790298
you're supposed to build mek on him bro.

though it seems like hotd would be the better choice now tbqh
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>>173790391
that's the point my man
Death to Dota!
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thoughts bulba?
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prove me wrong
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>>173790457
>i think about the game from a top-down perspective that doesn't include ramping relative power levels

ur prob right tho actually at least up to 4.5kish
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>>173790325
>>173790373
I have "Very High Skill" games when I play unranked
I want to increase my e-penis numbers so I figured I could gain MMR easy in ranked
But nope.
Forced 50

Dotabuff has absolute proof it's real
Very High Skill in unranked games
""Normal"" in ranked
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This thread doesn't have nearly enough Fem-Pugna in it
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>>173790520
Bloodseeker
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>>173790629
>implying 99% of Bloodseeker pickers aren't Peruvians in 1k
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>>173790574
Shadowblade is a very fast ramping item tho
It comes online fast and for a hero like Viper which peaks early, it's so good
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>>173790590
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Which hero can win in the offlane against Drow and Sniper + supp?
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>>173790474
I've tried the Mek build. It was awful meme.
>Use Mek
>No mana left for Orb or Ult

It's like the people who build Manta on Viper, like complete lunacy.
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>>173790576
>Dotabuff has absolute proof it's real
>Very High Skill in unranked games
>""Normal"" in ranked

how do you think that has anything to do with proving forced 50
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>>173790786
One that fucks off and goes to the jungle

If they do a tri with two greedy cores, then they'll lose hard in the first major team fight
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>>173790690
>40% damage amp that can be placed upon allies enemies
>AoE Silence
>An Ult that forces people to either tp out and get ass raped
>SCALING DAMAGE and global truesight upon enemy reaching 25% hp
Ok son, ok.
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>>173790825
>It was awful meme.

was used successfully by pros a long time, you never hit anyone with more than 1 poison attack anyway
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>>173790852
Because it's clear that there is a disparity between the two rankings
Over time, I should equalize.

But the fact that I'm stuck in "normal" shows that the matchmaking system will force a 50/50 split rather than allow people to increase in rank and so, in my case, equalize

Win one game.
Then the next game I'm 5 randos vs a 3 stack of a 6k guy and two 2ks. Complete stomp
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>>173790786
MOTHER CUMS is the only hero that could go to that lane and win it

depending on the support of course
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>>173790786
Doom with quelling. Just run back and forth between offlane jungle and lane, take every bounties on your and their side. Then buy a smoke when you're level 6.
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>>173790962
the more you win, the better you do the bigger shitters you get matched with to compensate the imbalance of your skill and mmr
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>>173790929
>stop moving
>right click him
>buy linkens
>win
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d2g
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>>173790962
why the fuck are you playing support in normal skill if you're really VHS?

if you can't just go any core role and carry the game consistently at that mmr you're clearly not really significantly above it
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>>173790298
>My biggest issue is the sustain/regen. You have to go back to fountain or salve after every fight
try early hood when, helps with early fights too
you can also go full meme and get vanguard
>you can't even take a jungle camp without losing 15% of your hp.
not sure what you're talking about, i never had trouble with that, you can kite jungle creeps pretty easily by hitting them with poison attack when they head back
>>173790474
>mek on hero that barely has mana for his ult
>mek on mid hero in pubs there people can't gather for early pushes
come on dudester it's not 2013
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>>173791147
t. dota from 2015 back when you could carry teams

remember miracle who is 9k lost 6 games in a row on a 3.9k smurf where he had scores like 30/4
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>>173791046
It should be a gradual increase not a "Oh you won 24 mmr? Ok, fine, here's a team of 2k Peruvians who all try to jungle. And the enemy team is Waga on his smurf"
It just echoes back and forth between complete stomps.
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>>173791214
congrats, you're bitching about a problem that they never invested time in trying to fix years ago when the game was growing, and certainly never will now that it's dying

you can't really gain mmr by being better than your mmr unless you are better by a HUGE amount and also autistic
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>>173790962
Ranked plays and matches differently from unranked. I'm sure that if anyone cared enough to read your dotabuff they would find shitty builds, failed ganks, terrrible plays and godawful wards.
>boo hoo 6k in a stack
1) you should be able to play around a single good player if you use your mic
2) stacks are as throwy as they are game winning
Seriously, how do you expect the matchmaker to even be able to calculate how to force your 50 winrate? Do like everyone else who actually gains mmr and git gud.
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>>173791047
>stop moving
Get your ass kicked
>right click him
Get your ass kicked
>buy linkens
Use Dagon to pop linkens, then get your ass ulted and kicked
>win
You wake up.
>>
Does hidden mmr decay? If I stop playing for 6 months, am I matched with slightly worse players than previously?
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>>173791147
Because I like playing support
You make shit happen instead of focusing on farming for the first 20 minutes. If the matchmaking actually worked, then I could rely on the cores I'm supporting to actually do shit.

I think the problem is that the ranked pool is so small that the disparity of skill between players on a team is huge.
Uranked pool is so much bigger that you can actually have a slow increase in challenge
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>>173791418
>Get your ass kicked
except you don't because he's pretty weak overall and any core that isn't squishy can take him in a fight
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>>173791214
there's a reason why boosters play meepo
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>>173791452
>You make shit happen instead of focusing on farming for the first 20 minutes.

>not support = hard carry

You are in 2k for a reason.
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>>173791576
>ults you
>presses w
>runs away
>rest of the team initiates on you
xD jajajajajajaja
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>>173791445
no one knows for sure, but probably not
however, playes over time get better, as according to Dota Flynn Effect, or rather Flynn Effect as applied to Dota other players got better in the time you were away, so effectively you are indeed matched with worse players than before
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>tfw just reached 5.2k mmr
>according to opendota that's top 1% in the world

How fares your grind, d2g?
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>>173791358
>how do you expect the matchmaker to even be able to calculate how to force your 50 winrate?

Every time you win it increases the odds of getting someone on your team being someone with a lower behaviour score
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>>173791696
>TP out
>peru team is out of position
>your team kills half of them

he literally only works in 1k where no one buys scrolls
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>>173791452
have you ever heard of visage, the based support of destroying teamfights, taking towers and carrying gmaes?
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>>173791147
>play mid/safe farm to raise mmr
WRONG
you play the roamer or jungler
you are the pudge that autistically hides in their safe lane trees to tilt the enemy core player
that's how you win
by tilt, not by might
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>>173791754
What hero did you spam?
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>>173791632
God I hate this.

Meepo and Slark are their go-to heroes.

>Queue up
>Enemy picks Meepo mid
>Check profile: Meepo, Meepo, Meepo, Meepo
>34 Meepo Rampages
>Every lane except the one you're in loses horribly in 10 minutes, Meepo level 25 in 25 min.

Git gud they said
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>>173791773
That would essentially reward intentional shitters by placing them in games that are more fun to ruin, and at this point LP is only a punishment for poormies with bad Internet that cuts out.
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>>173791923
>at this point LP is only a punishment for poormies with bad Internet that cuts out.
That's LITERALLY how it is now since they removed reports
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>>173791887
A combination between Lina, invoker, alchemist and sf
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>>173791835
Now that birds can be stunned, Visage is literally "Le free money statue man"
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>>173791993
>meme, meme, gigameme and minimeme
reported for boring hero picks
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>>173791358
>Seriously, how do you expect the matchmaker to even be able to calculate how to force your 50 winrate?

if it werent true i would be able to skyrocket on my unranked which is like 2k, i cant win 50% of games on it because the things teammates do are random and you cant solo win the game.
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>>173790298
Ignore these guys. Don't build Mek on Viper shit's dumb.
RoA and ring of regen for lane. Late game you don't need lifesteal. Either you win the fight or die.
Use poison attack to farm camps and kite them, you'll get hit like twice at the most.
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>>173791835
Visage is the best husbando
I don't like picking him anymore though because I always seem to have the worst luck when I do, last time I got a 3-stack of autistic memelords trying to teach their brand new friend in a live normal match without him playing the tutorial.

>>173791901
I don't think they pick Slark to boost, they pick him because he's fun to play but a horrible pick in their own bracket.
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>tfw founs secret roaming support op meme

Ck with a oov, gl out running him with a 100 ms diffrence

Just buy aghs and your carry wins
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>>173792384
>implying roaming works when you're always the highest MMR player in your shit bracket
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>>173792146
What I do is pick Axe jungle, Doom solo offlane, Abaddon dual offlane, Necrophos anywhere. Sometimes Enigma jungle.

These heroes will ruin their day guaranteed and never become irrelevant.

Try roamers like Riki and Pudge. Riki literally only needs a diffusal to kill carries who farmed mid and safelane.
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>>173792084
I know right, he's free wins at every mmr with the buffs to familiars farming
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>>173756842
>rubick
>autism
Yeah fuck reliable stuns and being able to single handedly turn lost fights around.
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>>173789364
>no octarine
>no manta

pass
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>>173793014
>>
>Look up Aui's dotabuff profile
>74% winrate
>Highest hero score on most heroes
>13 min guardian greaves and shit

What the fuck is this guy's deal??
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>>173793014
Medusa

Viable on any hero you faggot
fuck off
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>>173793000
>playing Rubick in 2017

Literally "1 dagger and im die" hero
His stun is such short range that you need to choose between helping a fight or waiting for a steal
So every fight is going to a 4 v 5 for your team while you hide in the trees waiting for the enemy team to use a spell that's actually useful
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>>173793014
bounty hunter
>>173793189
i think he plays only with his 5 man stack or something
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>>173793118
>>173793209
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>>173793246
literally viable you fucking moron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHnQWYcSFE
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>>173793246
would be a good build if he switched battlefury for memesabre
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>>173793318
Don't call me a moron you retarded shitnugget
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>>173793246
>not going echo saber
Retard alert.

With that build you're hoping for a one hit kill because Dark Seer's next punch is going to take 5 seconds to wind up.
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>>173793246
Looks good

Dem Vaccum cleaves
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>>173793432
>racism

Edgy
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>>173793502
>being a pussy ass niggerfaggot

reddit
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>>173793216
>i don't know how to position
>what is a blink dagger?
Spray your green jizz on them when they jump in, lift the biggest carry and dunk him onto the rest of them because they're probably clustered by this point.
The only thing big enough to catch you during this is warlock ult.
t. 240 games with rubick
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>>173793901
If you jump in like that, you'll be dead before you can steal anything good.

Rubick has no fucking health at any point of the game.
Lift is a really good skill, but it has such a short range that if there is any other hero than the one you're targetting, you're gonna die.

I've played a lot of Rubick games and he's so fun to play when you're winning
But if the fight is equal or you're losing, collateral damage will kill you without being able to do fuck all

Rubick is only good if they have a huge team fight ult that you can steal/ force them not to use
Otherwise he's just dead weight and going to feed the enemy carry.
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>>173794201
All I need to see is a pudge on the other team. The rest is icing.
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>>173794406
It doesn't count if you're in a stack
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>>173794478
>i concede, i have no more shitty arguments
Later, kiddo.
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>>173794576
Try solo queue and not be carried by your friends
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hey lads any meems that i missed this past few weeks?
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>>173790590
>only a shitty MS buff and insignificant talent change
feelsbadman
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>>173795008
All the DAC heroes are still cancer
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>>173795008
7.05
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Memes
>>>/mlpol/, the >>>/qa/ is dead because of it
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؜>>173793502
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>>173791754
Got like 200 mmr in the past week by playing puck offlane only lul
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Why does valve allow porn of dota characters? It can ruin the childhoods of the children who play this 11 and up game.
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>>173796485
Is this the most woke man in dota?
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>>173797113
Dota porn is fucking awful trash anyway
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>>173797192
If it weren't for glorious SFM you'd be right
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>>173794478
But you can see he isnt in a stack in those games, atleast some of them
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>>173796485
>tfw i am russian neet with schizoid personality disorder living with parents
>always play to win, pick whatever hero team needs, prefer to mute retards instead of flaming them and have high behavior score
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>>173791993
im currently at 4k8 sea, what times do you pick those?
first?
second?
penis?
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>>173791452
the 2K shitter pool is absolutely massive, so no that's not an excuse
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>>173797267
Even SFM is fucking awful most of the time.
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>>173797484
always last pick, any hero
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what happened in the last year to dota? it feels like i cant make any individual impact in the game anymore

is this what the player base wanted? it truly is a team game now where no individual actions seem to matter
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>>173797635
it's a team game for people who are mostly reclusive NEETs and don't speak the same languages :^)
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>>173797538
"Normal" goes all the way up to 4K bro
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>>173797618
im doing it right then.
I always last pick and act like... dual mid or gtfo.
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>>173797773
normal 0 - ~3.2k
high ~3.2k - ~3.8k
very-high ~3.8k - ∞
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgTIOYDsWR4
>You will never be Fear
;_;
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>>173797953
he kind of looks swedish/finnish tbqh
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>>173798109
Yeah, he's got droopy eyes
Kinda like Mac from Always Sunny
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>>173797953
>hot asian gf
a bit jelly
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I'm 3k mmr
how do I git gud to win TI7?
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>you have two support
>none of them buy wards and farm midas


after they nerf'd midas i thought no one gonna pick it UP But No! now support are buying for No reasons, why do people still buy that fucking item ?
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>>173798346
Take adderall
All the pros do
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>>173798109
too short
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>>173798393
duuude it gives more gold that means it was buffed
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>>173798398
I live in a euro country with gommunist healthcare
takes like 2-6 months to see a specialized doctor unless you got an emergency or go to a private clinic
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Is it possible to have above 50% winrate as an offlaner? Who's the best offlane pub player in the world?
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>>173798529
Regular meth works too
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So, /d2g/, are you as sad as I am that the frog listened to leddit and dumpsterred techies by adding the "YOU ARE APPROACHING FREE SHEKELS" alarm?

Feels fucking bad man.
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>>173798570
I usually play offlane or jungle and have 54+% winrate
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>>173798346
don't play supports that don't scale or can't take towers on his own
git gud at last hitting
>>173798393
sounds like every 6k+ games
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>>173798570
Offlaners exist only to help their mid and safelane
Unless you're at least a 3 stack, it's pointless to try to offlane and want above 50
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>>173798674
i literally didn't play since a week ago and counting
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>>173798491

you don't buy midas for the gold you buy it if you want more exp and it a bad item on support .
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>>173798595
you can't get the "motivational" feeling anywhere else.
you must force yourself to some boost (coffee, drugs, smoking, surprising yourself by watching pop out videos or playing scary games before you play) if you wanna grind so hard.
yet the simplest way is to just play dota 2-3 times a day because the first 3 games is always the ones where you're full of motivation.
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>>173799115
nah braugh, it gives you more gold now, that means it was buffed, you buy it for the gold
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How gay is your favorite team /d2g/?
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>>173799237
It's not about "motivation"
Amphetamines literally makes you better
There's a reason why WWII pilots all took "go pills"
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>>173798109
t. Someone who has never seen a Finn or a Swede
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>>173799501
>used to play guitar hero 2 randomly, would play one or two songs and turn it off
>for years
>tried to beat hangar 18 on hard, could never beat it would fail right near the end during the craziest solo
>take 20mg adderall one day
>play hangar18 on hard
>97% the song on the first try

i absolutely guarantee you every dota pro is on low dose amphetamines because it helps with doing quick things mechanically
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>>173799501
thats what i meant.
it makes you feel like a better person, it makes you better, therefore you're getting your source of motivation by feeling good.
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>>173799324
wow
now I dont even have to try and find out the fact that youre a peenoise
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>draw a filly
>call it a colt
why is this allowed
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>>173799324
Jark?
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>>173797773
HOLY SHIT THE DELUSION
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What's this champ supposed to do again?
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>>173797484
Pick lina early. Pick invoker third or fourth. Alchemist last pick and only if he's good against the opponent lineup. The last thing you want to do is pick alchemist without seeing their mid first
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just lift and be with /fit/bros and you'll get the boost you could never imagine
your arms probably hurt by playing too much dota rn.
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>>173800190
map vision
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>>173800190
ancient, toxic texts speak in black tongues of a forbidden techinque called "snowballing"
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>>173800190
Silenceblinds you for 8 SECONDS every 12 seconds
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>>173800190
day walker
night fucker
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>>173800190
being irrelevant after second night in every pub below 5k since fuckers don't know how utilize vision advantage
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>d2g
dead
>reddit
dying
>playerbase
dying
>twitch dota
dead
>esports
dying

>still no apology from Valve for the worst patch in dota history
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Some hours ago, there was a thread on /v/ shitting on pic related and saying other supports are far better than him. I took my time to put what the anon said bout BH.

>Its easy to counter with sentry/dust(not exactly what the guy said, but he complained bout sentry/wards.
>Its low hp pool and lack of mobility makes him underwhelming.
>Ultimate not crucial to win team battles.
>Practically its a 5v4 situation 95% of the time in team fights.

I disagree with the 3 first statements, but I somehow, gotta agree with the last one. In my journey to 4k, most BH in my team kept distance and thats a good thing, but the shuriken didnt do much and most of the time, he could only setup Track on 2 enemy heroes before dying horribly.

I havent played BH since its a difficult hero to use, but i think he need something to make him relevant like making track a moderate Aoe skill with 10 sec cd or gives back armor reduction/aoe vision to track.
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>>173801674
>Playing BH
>Engaging in TFs

You either pick off or fuck off.
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>>173801667
why would they apologize for revengeance that is killing Doturd? it's only fair dota dies after killing so many other games and genres
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>>173801674
>going to /v/ - Shill and 1k MMR Central to discuss dota two
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>>173802054
HoN is still alive though (lol)
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>>173801674

if you want to make bh a good pick
>make his ult to go through slark ult and can't be pruged off
>slow down invisible units
>jinada now apply break
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Is it possible to be better than your mmr placement? Such as being scripted by invoker and lost, or an abandoning teammate. These things pretty much lower your calibration because you lose, yet you didn't lose by your own metric.
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>>173801674
wrong pick m8,

Next time pick a real support and not a joke hero
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>>173797635
SPeak for yourself.
Or learn to roam. Maybe you can't 1v5 but you can run around the map murdering the enemy team winning lanes for hours.
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>>173802275
>this guy got his shit kicked in
>had to make multiple public apologies
>forced to clean up all the signs
>got his shit kicked in AGAIN
>denounced islam
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Can i go offlane midas with nightstalker and win? I'm in 3k/high skill
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>>173802489
its possible to be better or worse than your mmr becuase mmr is a bad system and there are players in 2k better than players in 4k who are the ones who really belong in 2k, etc etc

due to forced 50 you will mostly stay where you are, so tons of people calibrated too high and stay there becuase they get carried 50% of games
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we dont like normals and we tell them whats wrong with them to their faces

you, yes you, normie. you're a drunk. you're a profligate, you're a loser and you're going to HELL if you dont straighten up. im a proud virgin and a gamer and im not afraid of you
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>>173803016
>buying Midas
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>>173801674
He's pretty good if you're on an aggressive team that has stuns and teamfight ults like Static storm and Sonic wave, Eclipse, Chaos Knight etc.

If you're on a passive ricer team with AM/Morph/Naga carry he's useless and in the end it will be 4v5
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>>173803271
>profligate

degenerates like you belong on a cross
>>
daily reminder
>greedy
is loser code for
>good
picking "greedy cores" means you are picking good heroes. losers and manchildren expect you to gimp yourself with non-good heroes. it's pathetic
>>
Who are the comfiest and most relaxing heroes to play in Dota?

Omniknight, Treant, who else?
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>>173803016
midas is terrible in 7.05 for most heroes
otherwise yes
remember that you should get as much as you can in first two nights, you fall off hardly after that
go for utility items like solar crest, crimson guard, lotus orb or vlads or just go semicarry build with armlet
don't go aghs if you don't have something like pudge or another hero that benefits a lot from vision advantage in your team (or their team, since it works both ways)
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>>173803732
Doom and Enigma for me.
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>>173803671
I know you're baiting but that is the most retarded thing I've read all day
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Reddit memes aside, what is /d2g/ opinion on this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/644942/petition_to_make_razor_into_a_melee_hero/

Plus what heros could be balanced well to change from their melee/ranged to vise versa.
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>>173803790
One patch and 0.5x less exp just fucked the item up so hard. Changes all timings and item choices for so many heroes.
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>>173803863
>475 attack range melee hero
what could go wrong
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>>173803016
used to play him mid a few years back because he had/has insane starting hp, armor and damage
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>>173803863
People have been asking this since the beginning because he uses a whip.
back you go to >>>/r/ebbit/
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>>173803863
razor is sure bad hero, but i don't think he is bad enough for reworks
regular buffs to skills, talents and especially stats would be enough
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>>173803863
the
>well ACKSHUALLY a whip is a melee weapon if you did not know, in fact DnD considers it a melee weapon as well!
argument is such a typical example of nitpicky reddit autism. it's amazing how unaware they are of themselves
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>>173804102
Well obviously the instant balance would be lower it to the standard 150 range.

>>173804570
I was thinking along the lines of melee heroes getting the better use out of items and whatnot. I didn't even notice the whip I thought he fucking zapped people. Never took a good look at him.
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>>173804769
>Well obviously the instant balance would be lower it to the standard 150 range.
what's the fucking point then, he's still shit?
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>>173803732
warlock
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what if every hero was considered melee when the attack point finishes while the target is within 150 units, even if it was usually ranged
like in starcraft the two
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>>173803732
ice ghost man
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>>173805171
that would require Valve to not be lazy and add new animations so there's a visual indicator
>>
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>>173805171
was it because he was in a special needs school?
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>>173805428
if we subtract the value of the players that were from the players that are, we can figure out the players that wasn't
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>>173803732
undying
>tfw you decay an agi carry 3 times and proceed to kill them with soul rip at lvl 3
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>>173805797
makes thoughts be thought
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DPS Oracle?
Y/N?
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What are some game-winning heroes at 3k MMR? Nyx is fun, but you can't win a game if your team never takes objectives.
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>>173805938
I played a game where we had a core Undying that rushed Aghs and proceeded to win 1 v 3s consistently for the next 15 minutes.
It was insane

Aghs rush core Undying underrated
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>>173806120
it only works against retards
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>>173805991
badlina
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>>173806423
i don't know man
unorthodox picks can really throw people off guard and undying is a niche hero to begin with
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>>173804570
>it's amazing how unaware they are of themselves
HO HUM
WHAT AN IRONIC STATEMENT
OHO HO HO
AHA, HEH, HAH
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>>173806572
Make another Quake Wars, fucking please do it Even if you have Dice make it god, just do it.
>>
How exactly does the smurf pool work? It seems like I'm being put into 6k games in one game and then 3k in another?
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ETA on meaningful patch?
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what fucking purpose that fucking memeglove serves now
it's now shit even for heroes that bought it before talents addition like phoenix and invoker
why the fuck ice-nine faggot started changing items that were fine for years before so much
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>>173807498
3 days ago
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>>173807505
>click button for free gold

WOW

WHAT A GENIUS ITEM

HOW COULD ICEFROG TARNISH IT'S GOOD NAME?
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>>173807656
>>midas is farm item
no wonders icefrog prefers to listen to reddit, /d2g/ is full of retards like you who have no idea about the game they play
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>>173807264

bad news, bethesda is making it and adding features from overwatch
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>>173807908
>spending 1500 gold on stats

no anon, you retard
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>>173807505
invoker midas abuse has gone on for too long
bout time coldtoad but a stop to it
>>
>tfw what would be an otherwise good match is ruined for everyone because of some retard who is actually, literally, actively griefing

i can understand if someone is unskilled, but i will never understand people who actively try to ruin matches in online games by purposefully fucking over your teammates
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how does this make you feel dotards?
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>>173810131
alone and miserable
so nothing out of ordinary
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>>173810131
>tfw too intelligent to date your own race
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>>173807505
Still core on arc warden
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>day9 learns dota is still a thing
does anyone still watch this crap?
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>>173810584
day9 watchers probably
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Anyone EU wanna play? I'm a 3k mmr scrub
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>>173810131
Their kids are probably gonna be really fucking ugly
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>>173804570
Did they seriously bring up a whip being melee in DnD? That is completely different lol what fucking nitpickers.
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>>173809038
Why not just nerf invoker so he stops being able to do a 3k damage combo with no items by level 20
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>>173810584
>no purge explaining dota in weeks
>already gained 1k mmr from his advice
jew
>>
>queue
>it stops
>Try queue again
>failed to start game a party member is already in game
????
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>>173810663
day9 watcher
night stalker
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>>173807224
jump to the defense of your fellow redditors. brofist! xd
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>playing darkest dungeon
>get partywiped
>uninstall

what if there was a permadeath queue / custom mode? 10v10, once you die you are out of the game (can spectate or disconnect)
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>>173810131
holy shit, she actually has monkey features. look at those fucking EARS bro
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>>173736820
Awesome.

Still took you retards 5 smaller patches to figure out 7.00 is irredeemable though.
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what did they mean by this
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>>173813203
Based cap
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>>173813203
Is dota the ONLY esports community where players and casters alike trash talk each other on twitter and nobody gets butthurt?

Why do Dota players take trash talk so well?
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>>173813369
what about FGC?
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>>173813369
Because we can take banter unlike lego legends shitters and babies and any other community that isnt hon/dota
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>>173813369
game originated from the community so never had the "serious stuff" aura a big company would try to give + valve doesn't give a shit
>>
>>173813369
i heard that csgo personalities banters are even better
also those two are good friends, not the first time they joke about each other
>>
>>173813456
Oh and i forgot csgo, cant remember about old days of sc
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>>173813614
>valve doesn't give a shit
what about the case with james
>>
>>173812538

you do realize darkest dungeon just gives you new characters every time you do a quest and reopen the game, right?
>>
>>173814167
my waifu was in the party and I was tired of the simplistic combat
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>>173759845
Because early mine stacks were toxic and had to go (you'll notice that's a significant change of his rework) and a suicide ability was very triggering and had to be removed.

>>173773897
Invoker, maybe? The thing is that most of the heroes with a low skill floor are easy to master, and most of the heroes with a high skill floor are hard to master. Invoker isn't an ideal answer, but his skill ceiling is up there with Meepo, and you can get by with those really boring two spells builds if you never played him before.

>>173784243
The problem you've having is that you're not used to using that active item. Just keep playing and keep buying that item, and you'll get used to it.

>>173780332
DFG was basically a huge nuke, so it's more like Dagon except it scaled with max hp.
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I want freckle to portray windrunner in the live action dota film.
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>>173773897
maybe Lion? Since his spells are really simple to understand but his positioning makes him one of the harder supports to play well.
>>
>>173815126
that's a man
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>>173815003
you can still suicide with blast off, it's harder, but it doesn't have that ridiculous cooldown
>>173815126
THIS FORM SUITS MY PURPOSE
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>>173815319
stop anon I'm already hard enough
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>>173815126
who
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>>173814672
>those grapes were sour anyways
>>
aghs octameme refresher nature's prophet is such a cancerous build
literally enemies unable to push at lower mmrs because they don't get a pipe to protect their wave
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>>173815405
I want to marry Lanaya
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>>173816046
the combat has no depth at all and the late game is a grind to the point the devs had to add a new gamemode

good concept, poorly executed
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>be ahead 11k gold and 20k xp
>tinker delays our push with march whilst jugg splitpushes
>we get impatient and do some bad plays
>fast forward 40 minutes and we lost 2 rax
>hold on to the game for dear life
>survive until 80 minutes and then loses

is there anything more depressing than losing a won game
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>>173817652
that's why i always ban tinker
>>
is there a way to check what server youre one while youre in game? or after?
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>>173802390
are you fucking kidding me? I thought S2games was already dead.

Speaking of them, whats their next plan? Make another Team Fortress 2/Overwatch clone?
>>
>>173818032
>not picking tinker yourself

embrace the cancer anon

you will bathe in rivers of tears
>>
Anyone want to play with a scrub? Just started playing dota. I've played hon a few years back but finally got a computer that can run something without crashing.

Mostly been playing a lot of bot and normal matches.
>>
>>173818562
why? are you queing in like 5 different servers or something?
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>>173818902
no, but i had the strange phenomenon of having 9 spanish speaking players. this isn't even "me ooga team booga". it's just surreal. no one speaks english
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>>173818984
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>>173818984
welcome to dota 2 enjoy your stay.
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>>173818984
That'll happen. I've been matched with a 4-stack of spanish speakers on US East before. Very chill stack too, which you definitely can't say about all 4-stacks.
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>>173818032
one or two early game ganks completely destroy tinker
more so than other mid heroes
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>>173818984
welcome to NA dota, half of the players are retarded 12 year old naruto fans from south america because they all queue on US servers for faster games

reports are broken by now so i recommend opening google translate in the steam browser to verbally abuse them
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Should I grab hotd on sven after treads or go straight for the echo sabre?
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>>173820020
rush ring of repick
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when I reach 3k hours I'll quit this game
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>>173820085
quit while you're ahead
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>>173820085
same
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>>173820020
>playing sven
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>pick dark seer
>enemy instalocks oraclel to counter
>dispels all ion shells
fuck
you
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>>173790157
Reach 2k yet?
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>>173793014
pub magnus
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>tfw it's up to me to get us to bump limit
n-name y-y-your favorite h-hero g-guys
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guys?
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guys...
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...
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>>173823468
anon....
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>>173823712
anon
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>frogposters not only killing this general, but the entirety knows as 4chad
Based
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>>173823983
>>173823983
>>173823983
>>173823983
new
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>>173812527
>defending reddit
>things I never did
gulag is gulag always, thanks for proving my point autist
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>>173823920
This reminds me of RTS players saying the MOBA genre killed RTS games.

Dota 2 killed its general by itself.
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>>173773897
Earth spirit. His abilties are straight foward once you get the concept of using the stones. Using them all properly and having good prediction makes you a god among players.
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