/dfg/ Dwarf Fortress General

Remember to buy the newest necromnicon volume from master necromancer Neil Shamebone

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Ok it was a bit early but at least it wasn't another rimfag attempt to insert their shit into the op.

anyone want to share some cool interactions,I know someone on Bay12 had some cool werewolf transformations for adventure's but I can't find anything

Will dwarves in a burrow start cancellation spam if they can't haul stuff outside burrow?

I'm tired of all the goddamn vomit in my fortress every time something needs to be done outside and I want to have some dwarves dedicated to outside stuff.

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>>173722493
All of mine are cross linked with my various creatures and other modded stuff.

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Why are caravans such pussies?
I need their damn iron/steel to melt down for more ammo!
And now they are gonna pussy out about a small pile of ~50 goblin/troll/beakdog corpses in front of my walls.

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>>173722679
I can't tell, is that cat in the north moat walking along the fortifications or down inside it?

>>173723447
The cat is in the 1z deep moat (TWBT multi-level view) that will be filled with upright spears soon.
Would have done that ages ago but I have 0 useful ores in this damn desert, every piece of metal is either melted from a caravan, or straight up goblinite.

>>173720615
Stop shilling neil shamebone here wtf

Is it better to have retracting bridge trap as a lever activated or pressure plated?

>>173720615
Neil Walker? The noble?

>>173725042

Yes

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>>173725042
Wipe this meme off the face of the earth.

I think it would be cool if you could fully customise a dwarves appearance and personality, then be able to send that file to a friend so he could have that dwarf in his fort too

Could have a big /dfg/ dwarf pack with all our retarded creations

>>173716570

>someone in a DF general talking about another games "poor coding"

Oh the irony.

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I don't remember there being descriptions of organs like this.

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>>173725501
Speaking of mods I remember way back when 34.0 was new somebody made a mod that "enhanced" female dwarfs/elfs even kobolds with noticeable breast but it seems to have fallen off the face of the earth

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Will this finally be far enough for my fuckers to use ballista?
Siege operators really shouldn't run away at first sight of dangers, its their damn job to be there!
Also how far do the arrows swivel, can they hit the walls on the way out?

>>173726154
Yeah but how are you planning to get the gobo's into firing range?

Just had my first webber FB

its bloody horrifying to battle it, whats the best way to deal with webbers?

>>173726614
Gobo sieges are dumb creatures that have been feeding my metal industry with goblinite for past 13 years.
And every damn time they enter from the north of my fortress and move to the right, giving me enough time to fire 1-2 salvos of ballista arrows before they reach my walls and get gunned down by marksdwarves.

or at least that's the plan, last siege fucking ballista operators got scared from seeing a goblin on the other end of the embark though a fortification, so I had to move back the siege engines.

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>>173726959
use hallways as coke points to funnel them down a path,wait until they web a trap then voila captured GCS!

>>173725634
It only says that for goblins.It's raycis.

New to dwarf fortress in general,I know the basics(building,stockpiles,food and workshops),but is there any mods I should download as a beginner(and how do I apply them?)?

>>173728034


Just stop

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>>173727863
Well at least it's not terminal he can be fixed!

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>grind up poetry until I'm skilled enough to be hired at a keep
>don't realize that it's just a cover band until I've already joined
I guess it's apt tho. I only know one poem, and it was taught to me by a 4-year old that said it better than I ever have. ;_;

>>173728034
You don't need any mods to enjoy dwarf fortress, and especially not as a new player. Get used to the basic game first, and then have fun with different mods.

>>173728124
Oi don't u be mean 2 the newbies

>>173725884
>one of his arms is thicker than her entire torso
That size difference does things for me.

Tell me the secret to a successful fort?

>>173728827
booze and being really really autistic.

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>>173728827
According to my duchess... millstones.

I'm building a new computer soon, and I play a lot of Dwarf fortress. Would it be better to get a 7700k over a 7600k or faster ram?

>keep waiting for a siege
>get uninvited cyclop instead
>oh boy here we go
>hammerlord hits cyclop in head, felling it
>2 more hits to kill it

well that was disappointing

>>173730813
Check out the /g/ pc building thread. Their OP pasta literally mentions DF. IIRC i3 or i5. The high end intel stuff only makes sense if you're running several resource intensive programs (multiple virtual machines, rendering, regularly applying specific photoshop filters to a lot of images).
But yeah, you're mostly looking for single core performance and fast ram (timing or latency? I don't remember. There was bay12 forum research). Don't forget that your motherboard has to support that ram speed.

My halberds have finally done something worthy of notice

After a decisive battle against a Troglodyte incursion the caverns are once more safe.

only 2 injured

How the fuck do I stop the dwarves from eating in the library?

>>173732068
Make it less comfy.

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>download newest version
>Keep fighting gobbos with full armor
>All animals are called Animal recruits

Why toady

>>173732068

Equip the Liberian with a morning star

toady u r fuckin perfect m8.
you're a flower. you're also a rainbow and a river. you are the manifestation of all perfection and i want to i don't fucking know. i want this to not sound gay, but you are fucking perfect, toady.
ty for listening

Toady is such a shit tier programmer

What happens if I send a squad to hack a disgusting goblin bard that's visiting my tavern?

>>173732998
no u

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well this is different,did they attack right as I spawned?

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>>173722679
am I being rused?

>>173726959
Cave in trap or obsidianizing trap.

>>173727503
GCS aren't trapavoid. You don't need a webbed trap to catch them.

>>173733194
>>173733194
help

>>173736193
The goblin will probably die.

>>173728827
No flowing water.

Water flows utterly decimate the framerate when not inside a strictly 1-tile trench. You can go from 300+ frames/sec on a 2x2 map to less than 100/sec, just because you had water move around too much.

>>173738278
How do you make baths and stuff then?

>>173738392
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Waterfall

>>173740117
>no flowing water
>use a waterfall

>>173738392
With flowing water.
Anon is being melodramatic. Water/magma flows will ding your fps some, but they're not going to make the game unplayable. And once you're done moving the liquids (or your "flows" reach 7/7 depth throughout) your fps goes back to where it was before.

>>173738392
Drain cavern water or surface pools into a cistern, using a screw pump to pump it into a separate cistern to clean it if it's muddy

A screw pump can also desalinate ocean water, if necessary

>>173736193
Gobbos are probably already at war with you.

Just make sure that the gobbo isn't actually the Dorf King's Son's Best Friend From School, because that would totally probably piss off the Dorfs.

But I don't really know.

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What's a fun embark? I wanted to Embark next to a haunted ocean for the fabled zombie whale

>>173741629
try embarking near a goblin tower or human town to have em show up more often

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>>173404042
Here we are, sorry it took a thread and a half.

>>173741629
>not modding the raws such that no creatures are aquatic
Until there's actual ways to do anything with the ocean, this is the only way for any of the aquatic creatures to mean anything other than random meat deposits from beached whales.

>>173741629
Anything with a volcano.
Terrifying biomes in general, like a terrifying glacier.
Any embark site very close to a Tower.

Honestly, I'd say any evil biome in general, since it seems to be random which ones have evil clouds or automatically bring back corpses from the dead.

>signed up for the bay12 forums a week ago because you had some ideas you felt would fit better in long form forum post
>toady sama hasn't approved you yet

do they even check it anymore?

>>173745005
It took around 2 weeks for mine to approve, but yeah they do check it.

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These are new(ish), right? Do they do anything?

>>173745508
Probably not. Anything they'd help is probably better off being trained directly.

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>>173738278
>>173738392
>>173740912
Flows did nothing wrong.

So I killed some dragon but the local lord keeps telling me to hunt down the dragon. How do I make him aware of how I killed this fucker?

>>173747041
I haven't adventured in a while so my conversation is a bit rusty. You want to either spread rumors (from the continue a conversation prompt) or brag about your kills (it's random which kill you'll brag about). The rumors list is a real pain in the ass to navigate.
You can also tell a story, I think the menu option is "begin a performance" or something like that. Even if you're a shitty storyteller it will still spread the info to anyone in earshot.

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What do you think, /dfg/? First floor of the fort.

>>173748265
>let me just bring this finished good to the stockpile, that's much further then necessary

>>173745508
They make scholars more likely to ponder/discuss/write on the subject. This doesn't have any mechanical benefit except in the cases of medical skills and mechanics.

>>173748265
Boring, but functional enough I guess.

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>>173748406
>>173748560
How about this?

>>173747041
Or you could bring him the corpse

>>173748764
>one staircase

what's a bottlekneck

>>173748764
The outer layer walkway doesn't really have much purpose. You're better off building your workshops on the z-level above or below the stockpiles with a stairway connection in the middle of the stockpile space itself. That enables quicker access to and from the stockpiles.

Bedrooms can go literally anywhere.

>>173748764
Still yawning, anonymous. You gotta kick your square habit if you want better than a 5/10 from me.

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Well now I know animal-people can become a werewolf by desecrating a temple

>>173722653
Jesus christ your screencaps always make me want to track you down and murder you.

>>173750106
Hey, you got a good one. Could've been a wereshrew or a wereskink or something. Just out of curiosity, do your extra limbs disappear in wereform? I've never wondered how that worked until now.
In any case, you've got a dude who flies, has extra arms, and turns into a bear every month. Sounds like a keeper.

>>173750459
Yeah they turn into a four legged killing machine that can sprint without getting tired at all it's amazing

>>173746935

Poor doggo. Too stupid to actually attack his prey.

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>>173748961
>>173749146
Better?
>>173750027
I don't want approval from people like you.

Wait, I forgot the bedrooms aren't shaped, they just radiate in an N-by-N square from the bed. Gonna hafta redraw that.

>>173752143
Your stairs will impede with the workshop placement. You're generally okay with building large workshop spaces, and then building several workshops in that space. That's what I recommend you do.

If a dorf moods, you have plenty of time to evacuate and lock him in.

>>173752143
>4x4 bedrooms

god damn nigger, not every dwarf is a noble, give those fucks 1x3 rooms

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>>173752674
>>173752143
this is optimal bedrooms desu, I use it all the time, need around 2 layers of this layout to hold all your dwarfs

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>>173752891
meh I just go with what I would want to live in myself

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Okay, slightly larger because it needed to be square but still works.
>>173752578
Alright, thanks!
>>173752674
>>173752891
I appreciate your attempt to help but I'm not a communist so my dwarves don't live in commieblocks.

Also, this is the last dwarven fortress in the world (or something? when I embarked it said my civilization was dead or dying) so it might as well show why dwarves are the best.

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>>173753562
In all fairness, your rooms are more blockier than mine

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How're these rooms? Please ignore the staircase

>>173755559
2 small

What's with the staircase?

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>>173458921
Here they are in their dastardly dungeon.

>>173757652
Could you try drawing a mothwoman who's into wood chopping

>>173755559
comfy

Is that bloke who's always playing with worldgen around?

I'm trying to learn how to gen worlds to my liking but it's pretty complex. All I want is a pocket region where the dwarves aren't all dead yet, maybe some volcanoes and adversaries, but I can't seem to get it right.

>>173759702
set min volcanoes to high, set civilization sites higher, don't gen so long so they don't all instantly die out or turn down the semi/megabeast caves and titan numbers

Generating a large world to sail for a new adventure was a mistake. I can't stand these mountains anymore.

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>fortress is doing fairly well; dwarves are being productive and happy, progress continues
>wererhinoceres comes out of nowhere to ruin it all
>no military, no boltholes, no hope
>kills half my animals and more than half my fortress before he transforms back into a human and gets ganked
>only 4 of the dwarves that faced him survived
>make a hospital, put them in it
>a month(?) or so later, pic happens
I forgot they could do that. RIP.

>>173761853
next time make a moat with a drawbridge and hold up inside until it transfers back into a human, then go beat it to death

>>173762013
Okay, one of the werebeasts killed the other, and I have the one that survived in a closed room with a forbidden, tightly closed door. Will she stay in there forever?

>>173762363
ya, just make sure it didn't infect anything else, or you're in for more surprises

>>173762535
Great. To give her something to do, I've set her to detailing her cell. Will the smooth designation allow her to "wipe the slate clean" so to speak, and start all over again once she's filled every wall? More importantly, with the door barred will other Engravers path in there and try to help? Does she need food and booze to survive? If so, can I just put a hole in the ceiling, a stockpile over the hole, and have it drop in on her that way?

>>173762363
>>173762535
No. Werebeasts are building destroyers. You'll need to build a wall or a raising bridge.

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>>173757652
>the rectangle tileset device

>>173732998
How so?

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>some animal people wander into my encampment to start some shit
>send my woodcutter and expedition leader (miner) at them
>I can't into military so I don't think they were even using their axe/pick to fight
>woodcutter got lightly fucked
>must've broken a leg or something since
he didn't move around after the fight
>just was lying on the ground there motionless
>can't be assed to build a hospital
>forget about him
>after half a year he enraged and started running at people to beat them
>mfw he was faking his paralysis this whole time to make the town waifu bring him water

>>173767141
He was actually waiting for someone to bring him to the hospital.

You should REALLY build your hospital as earlyon as possible.

>>173767365
They don't just flop to the ground unless you actually have a hospital though. When they get injured without a hospital they'll still run around trying to do their jobs with their wounds, I'm pretty sure.

>>173757652

Excellent your really brought out the madness of the elfs

>>173768282
This was my impression as well.

>>173767365
I've been putting off allocating the space for it since I'm doing a relatively small (2x2 embark) above ground human town. So far the only injuries have been the wood cutter and I think 2 niggas who fell into water and drowned while unconscious.

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>>173758920
Sure. need to finish up the last few from the previous thread first.

>>173763362
>>173768971
Thanks fellas.
Elfs are insane.

>>173524932
Tha horror... Tha horror

>>173769475
That fucking flail-skeleton on the left that looks like he is late for work, I love him!

>>173769475
thrilling stuff anon

>>173769475

Ha

They said necromancers couldn't dance, see who dancing on their grave now

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>>173755559
>>173753562
>>173752891
>>173753370
Bedrooms?? Pffft, get on my level!

>>173771156
I don't know what's more disgusting:
your god-awful tilest
that fucking horrendous mess
>activate windows

I just can't decide.

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What did he mean by this?

>>173771156
saved to my screenshot gore folder

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>>173771156
If you're not connected to the internet, how did you post this image?
You can't fool me!

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>>173771723
HA! check again!

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>>173769913
(he loves you too)

>>173770185
>>173770967
why you Cheeky...

>>173525083

Incoming robbery.

>>173767141
>Can't be Assad to build a hospital
triggered

>>173719082
How much more complicated is this to get into compared to rimworld?
I'd go to that general but apparently it doesn't exist anymore.
I like rimworld but I feel like DF is too hard to get into cause of the lack of proper UI and userfriendly features.

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>>173772567
lel
>guy fell off a rooftop all the way down a staircase
>the bottom was flooded by an aquifer
>ded
>can't retrieve because water
>forget about him and focus on other shit
>I forgot miasma was a thing
>tfw I ended up gassing all my citizens in the meeting area and kitchen

>>173772763
Dwarf Fortress being hard is a meme. If you're patient and have basic reading comprehension, you can play. Whether you have fun or not depends on your mindset, but if you enjoy this sort of thing df is very, very fun.

Just download the basic game (with or without a tileset, your choice), open the quickstart guide on the wiki, and play through a couple of forts while experimenting. The first few will probably die quickly and hilariously, but don't get mad and treat it as a learning experience.

The ui needs some getting used to, but I never had a problem with it past the first few hours. Good luck anon.

>>173772763
It's not hard. You just need half a functioning brain to learn it. Just don't go into it like any other game thinking it's press X to make a sword

>>173773374
>>173773474
Well... Are there any quality of life programs to make it more manageable? Or are they all outdated.

>>173773557
DFHack and maybe Dwarftherapist since Hack does its job just as well now. Legends viewer if you're playing adventure mode or want deep lore. Everything else is bloat.

>>173772763
I would say it depends on how far you want to take it. just having a functioning fort is pretty easy, but getting all your industries at peak efficiency with all your autism projects perfected is going to take a bit of knowledge on how the game works.

>>173773627
Hack does rapist now? I've been away for awhile and last I knew rapist wasn't migrated to 64 bit yet.

>>173773627
>DFHack
Its just... A bunch of console commands?.. This stuff really puts me off playing this, I just want a couple of buttons and menus, that's it...

>>173773825
Then use the rapist, it's a full GUI that makes managing dwarves easy. But DFhack is more flexible.

>>173773825
>buttons and menus
I know Dwarf Therapist did this with a nice little GUI spreadsheet. Shit makes managing your dwarves 10000 times easier

>>173773825
some dfhack plugins add buttons and menus to the game UI.

like Manipulator, for example. it's basically therapist, but in the game's UI.

>>173752674
I give my dwarves 5x5 rooms.

>>173773825
Go away.

>>173773942
>>173773985
>Dwarf Therapist (Out of Date and pointless):
I guess I'll give it a go...

>>173773825

You're a lost cause. Save yourself the trouble and go back to whatever DF-lite is the flavor of the month right now.

>>173773825
>I just want a couple of buttons and menus
There are buttons and menus, what are you talking about?
>I want them clickable with a mouse
Now that's just a stupid and ineffective idea. You'll be much faster with the keyboard.

>I want them to be more consistent and grouped better
Yeah, we all want that, it's not gonna happen in the next 10 years.

>>173774095
>>173774270
I get it, its your game, and you don't actually want people playing it. Doesn't make the outdated and user unfriendly interface a good thing.

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>>173774457

>>173774457
The playerbase is big enough already, and the dev gets enough donations to keep working.

We don't need to make compromises to make the community grow.

>>173774457
It's certainly a shit interface - nobody here doubts that. It's inconsistent; menus grew over time and have been added in inconsistent positions, the navigation of submenus are often inconsistent, and screens that control similar settings are often vastly different.
It also displays information very badly. Often a graph would benefit to show development over time, and other times information is displayed as unformatted text instead of a graphic or list (for example the wound and personality screen would benefit from some more formatting). And the worst offender: some often used actions (changing jobs and viewing what dwarf has what job enabled) are hidden in sub-sub-submenus viewing single dwarves, without any overview.

However the underlying core principle of navigating menus with series of mnemotic keypresses (b for build, then t for table for example) is so much better than using the mouse to navigate menus, it starts to piss you off if it's missing in other games.
So if you're complaining about that, it seems really silly to people that play the game.

The mouse does have its benefits though. First of all, it doesn't really hurt to have all menus be also clickable - there is absolutely no disadvantage to this. Secondly, some actions are simply more effective with a mouse: drawing a designation area like you would select multiple files in windows explorer for example.
Some mouse action is already implemented by the way, but I doubt we'll see an interface overhaul any time soon. Come back in 10 years for version 0.60.32

>>173774457

You're already bitching before you've tried the game. You're not going to like it. People are trying to do you a favor.

Accept you've got the patience of a 12-year-old and the wits of someone with cerebral palsy and move on.

>>173775068
I'm just downloading it, working, and trying to find out how to improve the experience.

>>173774939
Hotkeys are fine and all, but a better UI wouldn't hurt.

>>173774880
Why are you so defensive against improvement? Decent UI is never a bad thing.

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Ha

>>173775359
>a better UI wouldn't hurt.
I never said anything else.

>>173775836
No, I'm pretty much agreeing with you.

>>173773557
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12743
Now get google a beginner guide and fuck off for a week, don't you dare come back here with retarded questions that take 5sec to look up on the wiki/guide.

>>173773704
rapist has been updated for 64bit for weeks now, also dfhack has a 99.99% stable beta version out.

>>173776190
>Starter Pack (Out of Date):

>>173776282
>0.43.05
>freshest dfhack beta
>64bit rapist
>out of date
What?
It's as beginner friendly as it gets for these retards that dont know how to get the vanilla game + therapist by themselves and come here to shitpost about their shitty df-clones.

>>173776374
I DONT KNOW MAN I'M JUST QUOTING THE OP
ITS COMPLICATED OKAY

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A spider with web ruined my fortress


there literally no bloody way to deal with them, curse this death simulator

pop of 100 went to zero in less than 5 minutes

>>173776482
I AM SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE QUOTING THE OP, I THOUGHT YOU WERE BITCHING ABOUT MY LINK BEING OUT OF DATE
MAYBE NEXT THREAD ITERATION WHEN IT HAPPENS IN A MONTH OR SO WE COULD UPDATE THE OP?

WHY ARE WE YELLING?!

>>173776597
THANK YOU I WILL USE YOUR LINK NOW TO STAB MYSELF IN THE FUN

>>173776558
GCS are really fucking dangerous
Use marksdwarves and fortifications

>>173776558
Spider/Web Forgotten Beasts shit out 100 cubic fucking meters of web every 2sec webbing 3 full squads at once.
Its as balanced and logical as a single dwarf vomiting out 100s of liters of puke while walking outside and surviving.

Some stuff really needs to be toned down a bit.

>>173776626
>trojan zbot in dwarfmockup

>>173776482
The OP copypasta is probably out of date itself

>>173776660
he's obviously talking about an FB shaped like a spider, not a GCS.

GCS haven't been dangerous since 0.34. 0.40 added non-lethal combat, and due to a bug, animals only enter non-lethal combat most of the time. this means that GCS almost never use their webs. most of the time, they'll just end up getting punched to death by some random peasant.

>>173777147
Still, marksdwarves with a fortification chain would've dealt with the danger, unless it was some kind of candy spider FB

>>173776660
>>173776713

My fort looked like a Australian holiday resort

Got a bunch of merchants stuck at my fort after being harassed by those pesky parrots.

How do I get rid of them?

>>173777461
kill the merchants

>>173777957
oy vey

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>>173777957

>>173777957
But they're dwarves...

>>173777957

Seize their means for profit

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Why are groups so difficult to handle in adventure mode?

I mean, not groups you form on your own, but generated groups e.g. vying for control in cities. Why can't I get someone to tell me about the group he is part of? Why do I have to randomly guess? How the fuck am I supposed to know who is a member of the Syrups of Secretions?

>>173741629
terrifying+aquifer+extreme temperatures+scarce minerals
no mods
final destination

>>173778123
Once in a while, a caravan will not return to Mountainhome. It is the way of things. We will wept for them

>>173778572
mostly because the conversation system is incomplete.

what you can do is talk to two different members of the same group. when you talk to the second one, you ask him what he thinks about the first one. then he'll say the name of the group that they both belong to.

you can also ask people about their profession, and they will say the name of their leader, but not the name of their group.

>>173779969
That's pretty helpful actually, thanks.

>>173780131
if the group you're interested in is in control of a site, you can also ask someone about the site leadership.

if they belong to the ruling group, they'll say "we are in the right in all matters".

>>173778123
It doesn't matter

>>173775068
>and the wits of someone with cerebral palsy and move on.
Cerebral palsy doesn't normally do anything to cognition. They sound retarded due to motor control issues effecting they're speech but mentally they're normally fine.

>>173782531
>Cerebral palsy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv4_lP5PjoE

>>173777061
It kind of is, and also afflicted by the "come on guys use manipulator instead of rapist please guys" anon's salt.

>>173782739
That's not cerebral palsy, that's the lingering side effects of 80's era coke parties.

nest boxes wont build what do now

>>173782927
>anyone who gets tired of the countless "rapist when, rapist when"-posts is just "salty"

>>173742783
Im the guy that requested it

Thanks a bunch drew

>>173783202
check building spots with 'q' are they suspended?
check the nestboxes with 'k', are they forbidden or marked for dumping?
check the place you are building shit at, is it even reachable? locked doors? no ramp/stairs to there?
check if you are retarded and cant do simple things, that can also cause problems in this game

>>173783475
>out of date and pointless
Obviously has nothing to do with that. There are one or two guys here that are convinced of manipulators superiority. One of them is max, who spergs out and turns into a cringe-quote machine every time therapist vs manipulator comes up. One of them got ahold of the OP and dropped that bitchy passive-aggressive line in it to shill their minority preference. We can have reasonable arguments about which is better or even whether either is good at all, but vandalizing the OP is too much.

>>173784670
I didn't even notice it until someone felt the need to bring it up 180 posts into the thread.

In any case, I'm extremely tired of entitled cunts who only drop by to inform the rest of us that they won't even touch the game until therapist is up to date.

Also, you've got love how you empathise how everyone who disagrees with you must be a minority, just to give legitimacy to your own views.

>>173784670
I'm neither and also think manipulator is "superior". That is, I prefer to use it. Simply because it's integrated into DF, so I can use it more efficiently. Rapist obviously has more features, but I don't need any of them.

I don't see anything wrong with using manipulator instead of waiting for rapist to update (and vice versa, whichever is up to date first).

>>173784829
>>173784963

I understand your feelings, but I think you're both misunderstanding my post. I don't use therapist or manipulator. I'm a v-p-l kind of guy. I don't care which one anybody uses, or how anyone else chooses to play DF. But the OP is a /dfg/ resource, and some catty asshole choosing to vandalize it because they care too much about how other people play is petty and harmful to the general.
Really, the parentheticals need to be removed altogether, therapist, dfhack, and the starter pack are all updated to the current version, and all that does is confuse new players, which is what prompted this conversation in the first place.

>>173784179
it was because wooden instead of rock
i guess no wooden box maker

How much Alcohol is to much?

>>173785869
>But the OP is a /dfg/ resource, and some catty asshole choosing to vandalize it because they care too much about how other people play is petty and harmful to the general.
Oh yeah, no question here. Haven't even noticed that before replying. Though maybe it wouldn't hurt to include something like "X - if out of date use Y", and "Y - if out of date use X"

>>173786438
no ammount of alcohol is too much, fellow dwarf
>inb4 ethylic comma
Dwarves' livers are bigger than normal for a reason

>>173772407
Thank you!

>>173787407
But what if
>no liver

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>>173788978
Then you die, I guess

Its an actual intended feature, to have livers affect the rate of resistance towards alcohol, but it isnt active as now

>embark on terrifying tundra
>it's raining frozen elf blood

well it could be worse

Is there any way to view the generated raws for the evil mist? I want to find out where husking mist is.

>Have massive cotton plantation worked by elfs and overseen by a dwarf and his mercenary human guards

>Huge cotton industry underground driven by child labor mostly

>Main export is cotton clothing

>I am already looking into Kobold labor for the mining operations

I never understood the fun of modding until this day and DF made me a merciless capitalist pig

god help me

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>one week without a new blog post
Is he finelly dyeing? ;_;

>>173793353
Midnight blue all the way, baby.

>>173771585
I think he wants people to recognise his contribution to the community. Nobody is talking about his mods, or mods in general, and he is sad because of it.

>I'm allowed to do things for different reason than you
Is kinda funny though. I get the image of a guy wiping his arse with his hand then complaining that nobody thinks its a good idea.

>>173795280
It's not unreasonable. It's the same sentiment that motivated his antimasterwork rants before. Whininess aside, I don't disagree with him even though I don't give a shit about his mods.

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Question: I know armies are drawn from actual populations on the world map, but do the goblin invaders in fortress mode work the same way? My civilization seems to be losing wars against various goblins and I was wondering if making my fortress a deathtrap that annihilates invaders would help take the heat off them?

>>173784670
>tfw you use neither
Purist master race

>>173796193

Embrace the well educated and progressive culture of the goblin or we whack your head with really big stick stunty

>>173796469
The race of peace!

>>173796193
Yes, even the nonhistorical gobbos that siege you are drawn from the abstract populations of the sites that the armies embarked from.

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>>173795280
>>173795981
Personally, I agree with him on one point he has made before: Masterwork has hijacked the modding community, and has made it very hard to discuss mods outside of it on the main forums. Since it has its own separate sections on both the main forum and on the wiki, it also has the appearance of being THE official modpack. Apart from that, Meph STILL manages to leak out into the other shit he does, i.e. Meph tileset.

However, it's also pretty obvious that when he says this, he's also biased toward his own mods, and buttmad because they aren't played enough.

Pic related, it's Meph getting BTFO.

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>"Apparently I'm a world champion!"
>"Oh really? At what?"
>"Nothing..."

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Added the faster bleeding/more pain mod.
Stuff now takes "only" 50+ bolts till it bleeds out instead of 500.

Fucking pincushions. Some of them even took a ballista arrow to the face and walked it off!

>>173792505
> xddD Dwarf fortress tunred me into a PSHYCO!!

Nah but seriously, that sounds like a cool mod. I can't wait until various industries like farming and brewing become way more in depth, as of right now they're just way too simple. Making a massive, sprawling booze generator of a forest with thousands of finely tuned plantations, workshops, farmers and traders able to create any alcohol based liquid imaginable through intense trial and error and physical labour.

>>173796790
>meph getting BTFO
I agree with you on meph being a fuck and all what you said (paraphrased putnam) about Masterwork. But I don't see how meph gets 'BTFO' in that image. burned, for personal reasons, asks meph politely not to include his set and meph respects that. I don't think that qualifies as getting blown the fuck out.

>>173799187
He strongly implied that they had been through that shit before.

>>173800173
>He strongly implied that they had been through that shit before.
Not necessarily with meph though.

Red pill me on Armok: God of Blood

Why are we slaves to him?

>>173804238
WE ARE Armok, the dwarves and the adventurer are the slaves.

>>173804238

Go to hell /pol/tard

At lest use normal phrasing

>>173804431
Can you give me a quick rundown on /pol/?

>>173804380
worst meme ever

>b-but muh edgy manchild power fantasies

>>173804431
also this

Hello
I am a beginner.
I cannot toggle on/off some labor preferences inside categories or labor for my dwarves. 'View Category' and 'Toggle Cat' are both on the Enter key.
Even when i go in a category, for example to make only Masonry on for one of my dwarf, it does not work, I press Enter and nothing happen. It seems i can only toggle complete categories at once.

Should i change the toggle key to something else?

>>173804636

The story of /pol/ is as long as the lifespan of 4chan

It was started as a containment board for all the political discussion and the extremely outer rim take on it that a anonymous board bring with it

The creation of /pol/ was just a solution to offload some of the stress that boards such as /b/ was put under since it was one the few board that allowed a free discussion of extreme political opinions

And it worked

>>173793353
He goes one week often. Start to worry when there's two weeks without a reason announced.

>>173805793
Haven't played in a while, but I think you're just not reading the screen carefully enough. There's another key for that IIRC. I seem to remember such problems at least.
If nobody else replies to you I'll fire up DF and check real quick.

>>173804702
> worst meme ever
That's what Toady said

>>173771585
What did you mean by digging up a year old post?

>>173806001
thank you, i am trying to find the answer anywhere and i am trying on the game too, unsuccessfully so far ...

>>173805793
The keystroke for toggling an entire labor category is shift+enter. Maybe that's what you're doing? Enter should a)enable a specific labor or b)show you the labors that make up a category.

>>173806001
>>173805793
Okay, just checked.

Press v-(move with arrow keys until you're on a dwarf)-p-l
navigate the menu with plus and minus. toggle with enter.
If you're on a menu, it should switch to:
>enter: view category
>shift+enter: toggle category

Inside a category, ESC goes back up a level.


If that's not the case for you, I assume something fucked up during installation.

Did you use the LNP or a preinstalled graphics pack?

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>>173806307
>>173806001
>>173806378

I tried the Shift+Enter
It does not work (I am playing on a laptop, hope that is not the issue)

Maybe you can tell me which keybinding i can change in the settings and I will try there.

I downloaded the game from
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
Just clicked on the link

Really appreciate the help, thanks (i want to dive in but it is blocking me)

>>173806178
He jokingly played along with the community meme.

Armok is just a bullshit name derived from some variable name in Dragslay. Everything apart from that is community memes.

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>>173806719
Well then

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One of my guests got into a pub fight, got his head smashed in, and then thrown into the jail.
A month later his sentence is over but dwarves cant unchain him for some reason.
The hell? Gonna try building a cage-jail to see if it helps.
I'm guessing its bugging off because he is not a member of my fortress?

Stop bullying Toady

He is a good guy, just need some constructive motivation

>>173806683
>I downloaded the game from
>http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
>Just clicked on the link
Huh, then it should work, really.
first of all, try it again. Download it again, and make sure it's completed. Extract it into a new folder - NEVER update by pasting a new version on top of an old version. Generate a world with short history (so it's faster). embark at a random spot and test .

Also, check data/init/interface.txt
Is it empty? Does it look corrupted?

Also, OS, version, 32bit/64bit?

>>173806178
No it isn't. It's a bay12 meme and Toady has never endorsed it, jokingly or otherwise.

>>173807169
Ok i am recreating a world in a fresh download version.
OS: I play on a macbookPro 10.12.3
64 bit i believe

I tell you if i made it work asap

>>173722632
Statue gardens outside. Easy peasy.

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>>173806683
>Enter: View Category
>Enter: Toggle Cat

>>173807795
I know!!!!
But i cannot find the freaking keybindings in the settings to change the one linked to 'Toggle'

>>173728034
Dwarf Therapist is highly recommended, as it streamlines the process of changing jobs for Dwarfs

>>173808074
>>173807169
Ok everything works fine now.
Shft=enter to toggle cat, enter to go in and then enter again to toggle sub-categories

No idea what I did or if it was bugged from the DL or installation.

Anyway, Thanks a lot :)

This looks addictive as hell when i see all the stuff

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FLYING WEB TITAN SHOWED UP
Welp... it's been a nice run, lasted 15 years, time for everyone to die.
Motherfucker is just floating around webbing anything that approaches him, then kicking them from above in the head exploding it instantly, gg.

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>>173774359
>>I want them clickable with a mouse
>Now that's just a stupid and ineffective idea. You'll be much faster with the keyboard.

I always thought a similar drag and box method of control would be good for DF. Similar to RTSs like C&C.

>>173808332
>This looks addictive as hell when i see all the stuff
To keep it entertaining in the long run, try to find your own solution to problems.
Have fun!

Activate it!

I see a lot of you have only 1 tile wide tunnels. Aren't you supposed to make them at least 2-wide so that dwarves don't have to climb over each other? I mean you have unlimited space.

Or can you designate traffic directions (one-way streets and the like) now?

My mercenaries never ask for full citizenship, so I cant give them bedrooms, they keep sleeping in dirt to rest.
Will they rest in barracks if I setup one?

>>173814995
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=155138.0
When you accept their petition for soldiering, they'll take up residence in an inn's room.

Fuck... gotta build a bunch of inn rooms now.

>>173815358
You can just build ordinary bedrooms and assign them to the inn. That way they are easier to integrate into your forts design.

can I change asignation of war dogs?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST GUYS THIS STONE IS DAMP
CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE THIS, STOP THE PLANET, I WANT OFF
FUCKING SHITCOCK ALERT THE HAMMERDWARF, KILL THE OVERSEER THIS SHIT IS UNBELIEVABLE

>>173817425
alerts.txt, change :P:R] into just ] for everything except invasion, mood start and caravans.
Enjoy running your fortress without it pausing every 30sec for something insignificant like a female dwarf shitting out another bearded fucker.

So we always joked with Toady browsing /dfg/, but it seems he only goes to /rlg/ bois

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>>173817809
>pic related
fug

>>173817809

Why would any self respecting person ever go to /dfg/?

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Decided to colour in one of my old pics.

I apologise for my inactivity lately. I'm currently working on another adventure journal, but I've decided not to post it until it's finished. I feel like the general is faster now than it was back then (or maybe I'm just working slower), and I'd prefer to keep it in one thread.

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>>173815681
Gave them a small apartment block in my royal burial level, motherfuckers are actually renting the rooms to live there while serving my fortress as mercenaries, noice.

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>>173818662
whoa that pretty neato

>>173814908
>Or can you designate traffic directions (one-way streets and the like) now?
Hah, no. Maybe someday, though I'm not sure if the increase in walking efficiency could offset the more complex pathfinding calculations.

>>173817719
That doesn't fix digging cancellation, though. It just keeps you from seeing the cancellation, which is objectively worse.

>>173819947
Its much better than having the game pause/recenter for EVERY SINGLE SQUARE.
Now it just shows you the notification, so you can wait them all out, then dig another layer.
Very useful, especially when digging under river/lake/sea.

>>173820117
I prefer to redesignate each tile as it cancels, it gets the digging done faster. And if you aren't attentive, or are occupied with more than one project, the cancellations can easily be missed leaving a badplayer scratching his head months later when he discovers that the mining isn't done.

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I think my fortress might be having some bird related problems... my poor fps ;_;

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Visiting. Sure. That's what all the soldiers are for.

How the fuck do I stop screw pumps from drowning my pump operators?

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>>173823447
>caught in miasa

>>173806915
He's fat and bald and lazy.

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>>173824019

>>173824019
Bodyshaming much? Bigot!

>>173824019
Baldshaming much? Bigot!

>>173824019
Bodyshaming much? Bigot!

>when Toady dies from too much meth and DF goes open source

one can dream

>>173825006
>Implying his will doesn't say to throw his PC into a volcano upon his death.

>>173825006
you cant die from meph, he's too much of a faggot.

>>173825006

>EA buys the right to it from his debt ridden family

>>173826846
He said meth anon

>>173824019
He's just like me

>>173825006
>implying he won't live long enough for it to reach version 1.00

>>173790993
couldn't be better*
ftfy

>>173808332
You probably had caps activated or did not have the window on top or something

>>173829732
>implying he will
>Implying he wont die but only after dwarf fortress is complex enough to have a Urist McToady dwarf continue his work

>>173830197
It's frozen, man. What would you do if some poor migrant, on his way to your big, hairy icehole, took a chunk of elf's blood hail to the head and died before he could even reach you?

>>173830816
>tfw DF will spawn a singularity AI that turns dwarf fortress into a universe simulation proving with 99% certainty that our own universe is also just part of a simulation

>>173830834
I'd bet he was happy some elf had died, making the world a better place.

Is there any other race in Dwarf Fortress even half as based as Goblinkind?

>>173831634
fuck of bax, brunhilda should have won the royale

>>173831634
Dwarves, Humans, Kolbolds, Forgotten Beasts, Demons Plump Helmet men, Keas, Worms, Regular Plump Helmets

>>173831905
elks?

>>173832050
Especially the elks.

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>>173831634
Jumping Spiderman/Woman are deathly with proper training

Am I the only one who has this glitch where some random animals become Animal Recruits and roam around the map?

>>173831634
Aw fuck I think I missed the last tourney because I was on vacation, and I was waiting since the first one. Fuck my ass.

>>173832415
It's a F E A T U R E

>>173833391

Oh shit, I'm sorry. I wasn't attuned to Toady's genius

>>173832853
The second tourney happened months ago fren :D

>>173833724
I know, the last few months have been busy for me.

>>173774359
>>173809439
You can actually click on some menu options with the mouse. Designations mode also works with the mouse.

I have a squad of militia that have been unconscious in the hospital for 2 seasons. I have a doctor but even with nothing but doctor duties he's not doing anything for them. Also, there's apparently an issue with giving them food even though I have lots and lots of food. What gives?

>>173836279
is he a diagnoser? is your hospital setup properly? does it have all the needed supplies?

>>173836482
Whoops, the issue is that it had no chests to store supplies. Thanks!

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>>173819756
>those poor mangled girls
What sort of monster would do that?

>>173837869
The same kind that so cruelly trimmed their ears to appear reminiscent of elves.

My militia commander is glitched out, she's fully healed and has been issued a crutch but she refuses to get out of the hospital bed. Deconstructing the bed just makes her lay on the floor motionless, and removing the hospital zone doesn't do anything either. Is there anything I can do or do I just need to send something in there to attack her?

>>173839164
Oh god I'm gonna be sick, didn't even notice that.

>>173839476
try removing her from the squad

>>173840602

That did it, thanks.

>>173831249
What if it already happened and our universe is it simulating its own evolution?

>>173840842
>tfw you're just a world-gen footnote
Welp, off to kill some people to make sure I don't get culled as an unimportant histfig!

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>dwarves love this
They have no sense of aesthetics.

>>173842204

I've been a historical figure for years now because I trained some dogs in obedience and shot a couple deer.

Get on my level you fucking casual.

>>173843117
Well shit, I've trained //cats// before, plus collected and led packs of stray dogs, but dogs ain't shit we bred them to want a human leader after all. Oh, and killed lots of animals... though they were mercy kills, and never stopped sucking.

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>>173843003
Dwarves love this.

>>173843354
It is dozens and dozens of engravings about
>the founding of this civilization/fortress
>the time a wererhino killed like 12 people
>the emblems of the civilization/fortress
>the elevation of [dwarf] to [position]
That's it.

>>173843354
Understandably, that shit is cool.

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Who are they even trying to feed? The 60+ bards I have in my tavern? The wererhino I have locked up?

>>173844716
Probably the wererhino if she's in a jail area.

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>>173845483
She's walled into a room, but otherwise no.
I checked again, and there's no one bedridden, and I have lots and lots and lots of food. I don't understand why this is happening.

>>173845762
They're confused because you [d]on't have engra[v]ings toggled off.

>Now, on top of the rescued prisoners, we've finally got our first artifact "retrieval", though it wasn't mine. So I guess it was stealing. Bad dwarves! I sent three of them to sneak into a human town, and they brought back the sanctified skull of the first priest from the moon temple as well as a perfect gemstone from the lord's castle... when my heroic soldiers got back they just pitched the skull on the ground (ongoing issues!). I also cleaned up additional new problems with the noble/military screens, and an issue that came up with assigning museums as sub-rooms of taverns/temples, etc.

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>>173848990
>bad dwarfs

Pfttthahahahha

Is it normal to get 10+ tile wide rivers? I swear 've never gotten them before, but all of the sudden this world has a bunch of them.

>>173848990
>"Ma'am, they're back!"
>'Dammit Reg, as long as I'm Captain it's 'Sir' got it!'
>"Yes sir!"
>'Well, send them in, I assume they have the artifact?'
>"Well..."
>"Oi, Urist, dis skull what you wanted right?"
>*clunk*
>'...dammit Kadol.'

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>>173849904
With enough river crossings and whatnot, yes.

I need help with making a a water source underground; whenever I do that the water is able to run up ramps after it's flowed like 10 z levels down. Is it because of the water pressure?

>>173850470
Make it pass through a diagonal to kill pressure on the level you want it to stop at.

>>173850470
Put a flood gate with a lever, close it after it fills the pool, or alternatively put a pressure plate tied to the floodgate so when it gets to low it'll open and then close

>>173777273
Haaaaaaa cyclone jokes, I like it
[Spoiler]post pictures[/spoiler]

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>tfw you only have one axedwarf and 4 human mercs
M-maybe if I lock the doors and wait for a while he'll just go away?

>>173851727
one hit and it'll shatter, ice is a fragile material

>>173851727
Have you tried asking nicely?

>>173855209
I'm kinda sad he went down early. But it was a good tourney.
Also this picture is excellent and I would marry the drawfag.

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>>173855812
i'm flattered, thank you

How do you guys deal with the annoyingly bloated work order menu in large forts?

it seems my dorfs are more concerned with hauling than loading traps and such

>>173856157
Why don't you have designated trap loaders? That is, dorfs with only trap loading labour activated.

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>>173855209
Next tourney when?