/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

Reminder: https://itch.io/jam/gameplay

Do you have any favorite public domain songs (preferably sheet music) that you would like to hear an 8-bit arrangement of?

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>>173692039
I want to dev with jofer while he bakes for me and fondles my feet
https://youtu.be/SOxw1nqJNOg

>>173692124
hahahaha
comedy gold

i see were back to shilling ssdev

>>173692227
>tfw he probably doesn't even remember us

>>173692162
>Do you have any favorite public domain songs
no
>preferably sheet music
definitely no
>that you would like to hear an 8-bit arrangement of?
Good god no.

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>Spotlights
>Coloured spotlights
>Placeholder sprites

Really feel like doing some deferred 2d lighting with shaders but apparently it's a lot of extra workload with creating normal maps and thing. Also seems like if you go to those lengths you might as well do 3d dev.

>>173692516
So, what's the game going to be about other than the lighting asset you downloaded?

>>173692595
Not sure, adventure platformer or some shit. Just something fun to do outside of work programming. Also encouraged to do side projects and given time off to do them by work.

>>173692595
>lighting asset
that's a framework not an asset anon.

>>173693047
unity kids dont know the word

>>173693047
Maybe, but check THIS asset
*unzips dick*

>>173692595
That's not Unity friend.

>>173693047
It's hardly a framework if all it does is some light shaders.
Assets/library is what you got.

>>173693279
I'd love to check it

>>173693345
>its not a program its an app
wew, unity babies need to go.

>>173693345
It's a 2D lighting framework that uses box2D and OpenGL ES 2.0 unity bab

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I've gotten the controls to move my avatar, but the animations aren't playing correctly. Strafe left and right are both working, but neither forward, backward, nor any angular direction has animations. The diagonals just play a slowed and skewed version of left/right strafe, while forward and backward play no animations at all.
scripts to follow

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>>173693683

>>173693683
>WalkFWDLoop
>WalkBackLoop
>StrafeForwardLeft
>BackLeft
Dang your naming is inconsistent.

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Idea guy here
It's like digdug except you play as a cute dog.

>>173693856
ik, but that's not going to effect the animations is it? The actual names aren't in the scripts or anything.

I feel like participating in a non-obscure big gamejam. When's next

My bud had a lot of fun in indies vs streamers on gamejolt

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>>173694185
Better idea guy here
Dig dug but you play as an anime girl with drill hair

>>173694429
ludum dare is soonish

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There, that's better. I guess. Maybe.

Fuck art.

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>>173694639
You just gave me an idea for a dig dug clone.
inb4 getting sued by GAINAX...

>>173694902
>dig dug except you dig THE HEAVENS
I can dig it

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>>173694721
nice
thank you senpaitachi
gonna drink tons of coffee and code some games

>>173694429
>>173694721
Ludum Dare in 10 days.
April 21st - 24th.
If you don't think you can get something comfy done in that time-frame, I advise you make a team with a friend or two or start making some base assets you can use/re-implement quickly on the days.

Any lore-devs have cool ideas as why/how my planet began.
Other than
>gods
>big bang

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>>173693683
>>173693856
better?

>>173695061
Short of that you've just got will manifesting it's self because it wanted to exist. You can't get something from nothing, so your only real options are a universal catalyst event, or the will of a being that transcends time and space.

>>173695061
What's your game, post images etc.
I'll write up some base lore fast.

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>>173695065
this is also a thing now

>>173695061
it's a spaceship whose gravitic drive malfunctioned, causing any stray asteroids to crash into it, eventually gathering enough mass for planet

>>173695050
I think I can! Don't really want to work with other people this time tbqh. Just me, coffee, cigs and no sleep

Is it ok to use things purchased on gamedevmarket for instance? My engine looks up and running, need to blow some dust

>>173694902
dig dug where you control gravity

>>173694429
what is game jolt? is it like itch?

>>173692162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIfcKy-VcXo

>>173695229
Flat plain with small hill and tree.
Not much to draw from.
>>173695160
Good point.
>>173695279
Interdasting.

>>173695485
Any record of the song being written before that recording was done?
If it was done in 1931 then it likely isn't in the public domain yet.

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>tfw there are loads of Unity tutorials out there, but not a single one explaining how to actually make a successful game

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monster girl gamu!

>>173695346
From their ruleset:
You’re free to use any tools or libraries to create your game. You’re free to start with any base-code you may have.

You’re free to use 3rd party Artwork/Music/Audio assets, or assets you previously created, but we ask that you OPT-OUT of the respected voting categories (Graphics, Audio). You can opt-out of a voting category when you submit your game.

Best of luck Anon. I believe in you :)

>>173696245
I know right, they should have a tutorial which shows you exactly the steps needed to create an award winning game

>>173696280
what an awful outfit

>>173696280
what an awful font

>>173696280
He doesn't even try to be slightly subtle with his pandering, a digital prostitute.

>>173696326
Award winning != successful

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okay bye

>>173696683
Poor skeleton.
Goblins are over-layering the skeleton even though he's more forward than 2 of them.

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>tfw your game will never look this good

>>173693823
I missed the "r" in Vertical setting up the readonly

>>173697194
thats a few weeks of drawing at most

>>173697262
Why are you using strings?
Do something like.
0 = horizontal.
1 = vertical.
Or set up an enum.

This is why unity devs are not real devs.

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https://youtu.be/6aniF8N1Tpw
https://youtu.be/XBGxGxd4yzY

not much advancement today, just cleaning code and adjusting some details.
Next step is to add some basic AI.

>>173697375
how slow are you?
thats a day at most
more pending on the animation method (if any)

>>173697761
where is your game?

>>173697761
he meant a few weeks after learning how to draw

>>173697375
>weeks for that simple sketch

>>173697761
>thats a day at most
this is funny coming from you, who posts a badly sketched 'loli' and calls it a day

>>173697854
see>>173697851
you illiterate faggot

>>173697510
> This is why X are are not real X
Do a little inductive reasoning mate.

>>173697981
This is pretty neat

Where do I start?

I wanna make a game, and I have a general idea of what I want to do, but the ammount of work seems ridiculous.
Im fine with it being hundreds of hours tho. Is there anything in particular I should start with?

>>173698036
>This is why YX is not ZX.
Did you think that was a solid defense?
Learn to code before playing word game.

>>173698143
look at op
ignore any replies that come after this one

>>173698143
Have you made any game before?

>>173698170
define ZX

>>173698143
read the op

don't ignore this post

>>173698143
TheRealBoston java introduction video series.

>>173698143
If you have no programming experience be prepared to spend years learning how to make game before you're even able to begin on your dream game (which will also takes years to finish). Choose an engine from the OP, they're the most recommended ones. Some are better at 2D some are better at 3D.
Once you choose an engine watch/read tutorials on it.

>>173696326
awards only accurately represent an investment
not quality or success

>>173698143
Do you have any experience with anything related to video game creation?

>>173698603
this

or copy/paste some unity assets, put it on steam greenlight and hope for the best

so persona 5 makes me want to make an anime game

what should I make?

>>173698170
word games*

-and the reasoning I was referring to is based the fact that I'm learning how to do WASD controls.

>>173698847
You are just a dumb weeb wanting to make a dumb weeb game, not an "anime game".

>>173698909
what's the difference?

>>173697194
speak for yourself

>>173698143
>Im fine with it being hundreds of hours tho
more like thousands. Gamedev takes a stupid amount of time if you want to do everything yourself.

>>173697981
I kinda like your trees. Did you use an L-system?

>>173698973
Same as americans trying to make pizza

>>173699067
Depends on the scope, really. Given some experience (which that guy doesn't seem to have, I'm aware of that) you can shit out small shovelware games on a weekly basis.

>>173699067
this

working 10 hours a day for a month is 300 hours right there. and for a solo dev, or even for a giant studio, if you're making a serious game it'll take years to complete.

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Any good text Gamemaker tutorials? I can't stand the talking heads on Youtube.

Yes I am autistic.

>>173699165

nope, but its fractal

>>173699480
An actual autist would take the time to fucking google it instead of asking other people to FIND a fucking TUTORIAL for him like a normie, next you're telling me to read the tutorial for you.

>>173699480
https://docs.yoyogames.com/
...

>>173699480
i genuinely hate lazy people who cba to even do a youtube tutorial...

>>173697194
Sexy.

>>173699618
noice

>>173699646
Most I find are either outdated or Youtube ones. Besides, I supposed that you guys would actually save the quality ones or something.
>>173699708
That's a manual that I already have, but thanks anyway.

>>173696280
How many layers of autism are you on right now my man? >>173693570

>>173699246
i know all food analogies are bad but this one didnt need to be. all you had to do was replace "americans" with "japanese" and it wouldve made perfect sense and been consistent with the discussion topic.

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how much would you guys pay for a 5 levels shmup with an emphasis on style/aesthetics and not much else other than being frustrating as balls
There is also a story in the planning but I'm not hoping that would be the selling point.
I was thinking 5 dollars

>>173698143
dont listen to them,

increase the scope of your game
the more features you add the better you will be at adding them. if you only pick a few you will slow down and only work on 1 or 2 features so you should keep adding them that way you increase your speed of your project and have a good base to show of ideas when you make your kickstarter video

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>>173697104
yup. fixed now

I cant tell if i like the little deformation on impact for the windup attack animation.

>>173699943
Maybe he meant that weebs make the best anime games tho?

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>>173699943
I don't know about jap pizzas but burgers are notoriously bad at making them.

>want to post progress webm
>too scared of bullying

>>173700104
>I was thinking 5 dollars

For 5 levels? Gotta be 5 huge ass levels.

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Does anything trigger hoy agdg?
For me it's "don't try to reinvent the wheel"

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>>173698143
> but the amount of work seems ridiculous.
> "I don't want to study, I just want to paint!"
> "I don't want to practice, I just want to play the piano!"

Best thing you can do is pick a system that suits your target-game, get a notebook and a pencil, and learn as much as you can about it's provided tools and whatever code it's running on. One good way to start is by using it to make something super simple, like pong or something, and as you look up tutorials write down every script, function, and trick that they mention in that notebook. Then move on to something different; not more advanced, different, something that uses different functions and elements; say a game of checkers. Do the same thing here; write down everything that you need to use to make each individual part of checkers work, including little notes about what exactly you used it for the first time.

Work through a pong clone, a checkers clone, a catch-falling-objects game, etc; super simple projects that can be rounded out in a month or two. As you do this you'll get used to the more fundamental features of that system, and ideally the code it runs on as well. Spend a year or so going through both code and engine tutorials in this fashion, and you should have enough of a grasp on each to begin your target game by the time you're warmed up. While you're taking notes, write down other ways you think it could be used, or ways it could be implemented into your original game idea. You may find that the game you wanted to make isn't actually that interesting once you break it down, or you may come up with a totally different project concept over the process of learning how to program.

Furthermore, the more you learn of code and basic functions, the easier it will be to learn new engines and languages. Even if you end up ditching your original project, or even your first choice of engine, you'll learn a lot, and it can all be applied to future projects.

>>173700104
Whatever game you think that also focuses on style doesn't actually focuses on style but focuses on gameplay, if it only focused on style it would be a shit game that you've never heard of.

A game needs to be fun to play first and foremost.

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Hey is anyone familiar with a problem like this? My friend is working on exporting a body model from blender, but when he does it has this weird grey fuzz around the face, especially the mouth. Pic related is the face with the issues. We're actually making a mod instead of making a game, but I figured if anywhere on this website would know how to solve this problem it'd be here.

>>173700249
Wait until you're making a furry game. You'll be bullied literally every single time you post your game here.

>>173700270
>Work through a pong clone, a checkers clone, a catch-falling-objects game, etc; super simple projects that can be rounded out in a month or two.
Those are all like 1-2 day projects even as a beginner m8, if you are wasting so much time on shitty tutorial clones then you are doing something wrong.

>>173700257
that's usually it for me
"It's been done like this once before, so why try doing it a different way?"
-not just in dev, but life in general.

that and people who tell you to quit if you don't grasp something immediately.

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>>173700257
> where's your game?

>>173699480
Suck it up and watch at double speed.

>>173700104
0 i hate shmups

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progress: fixed timing inaccuracy by calculating using the CLOCKS_PER_SEC define instead of assuming its the same value as on other systems

>>173700257
People who only do gamedev for the money.

>>173700406
> everyone has days to dedicate to dev

>>173700386
Rightfully so.

>>173700249
The only times people get bullied is when they're making a furry porn game, some other meme game, or are so good that someone is jealous and wants to make them quit.

>>173700551
Ok, let me reword it.

>Those are all like 8-12 active development hours projects even as a beginner m8

>>173700386
if the game's focus is on western anthro, yes

if it's a regular game but the character just happens to be a cartoon or funny animal it's usually fine

at least I've never been bullied for it

>>173699943
I never had japanese pizza, so i'd be shooting in the dark, really.

So, more like britbongs trying to make wurst?

>>173700594
there's like 4 bully posts in this thread alone and it's not five hours old

>>173700186
thats not a pizza thats a pizza pie because its thick like a pie

>>173700386
We should start carving out a safe space for furry game development. The discord may be a good place to start?

>>173700104
"stylish" shmups are a dime a dozen, or even free.
To stand out you need a story with waifus, one hell of a gameplay hook, or be some sort of cerebral REZ experience, which would probably compete with frustrating difficulty.

>>173700654
shitposts responding to shitposts that aren't progress posts don't count as bullying

>>173700690
It's called /trash/

>>173700626
An 8-12 hour project sounds like an excellent starting point for a beginner.

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>make game that is slightly more involved than "Press X to watch shit explode and numbers go up"
>"omg it's too hard"

Games are dead.

>>173700770
you don't get it, you were supposed to shit on discord rather than respond unironically in a way that makes sense

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>>173700252
B-but you get to play them over and over. There is also the challenge factor of making it to the top of the leaderboards ( if you're into that sort of thing) so you gotta keep replaying.
Also the thing I mentioned about the story. You unlock bits of it through old relics the more you play.

>>173700295
It IS fun to play I like to believe but it's also unforgiving. You'll appreciate it if you don't rage-quit ( inb4 so is all rage games)

>>173700690
yeah good idea lets flood the discord with fur faggotry lol

>>173700816
Sure and that's the point, the original poster said those projects would take "a month or two" which is ridiculous.

>>173700893
Oh, you're one of THOSE weebs who think another motherfucking Touhou clone would somehow have any kind of market impact.

>>173700406
>not making a pong clone from complete scratch with opengl/vulkan

>>173700770
Trash is good but its taking a long time.

>>173700860
You shouldn't go to Kotaku

>>173700893
just make your shmup or dont
it literally makes 0 difference to anyone but you

>>173700406
this. 1-2 months could be justified if you're polishing them and making menus etc to bring them to market, but don't polish a turd, these should just be 1-2 day babby's first practice projects

>>173700628
"Furry" is a particular style. One that's really off-putting, honestly.

would you guys test my ai?

https://brazileirobr.itch.io/pmp

i need some feedback before going back to doing shitty low poly art that is not going to be in the end game

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I'm still making the scene for the non existent loli jam
Should i continue?
or should i work on another game?

>>173701074
if it's the first time you're programming a game with opengl/vulkan and you're taking the time to learn things properly then sure

>>173700893
I don't want to discourage you, but check what kind of indie games you get on Steam for 5 bux, or for 20 cents when they are on sale. If you think you can compete with that, go ahead. But I've bought plenty indie games for less than 1 dollar and most of them have a shitload of content.

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>>173700154
I tweaked the impact a bit, and added a little hop to regular attacks. i think its cute.

>>173701259
sorry you can't debate me on this, there's a lot of different shades of furry. I know what specific style you mean though

also this is getting offtopic, lets go back to whining about other pointless shit like jams and discord

>>173701302
>quality > quantity

>>173701283
>Should I continue making a game for the Jam everyone hates or make progress on a project that might actually go somewhere?

I don't know, anon. I'm really up in the air on this one.

>>173701421
>sorry you can't debate me on this
Are you a certified furry expert senpai?

>>173701440
> quality+quantity > quality

>>173701283
>light probes
>everything is unlit

got me thinking there

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finally finished this chapter

>>173701039
exactly

>>173701302
True. But I keep lingering in the shmup section of steam sometimes and I see lots of shit games for 5 to 15 dollars.
I might end up releasing it for free which was my initial plan, but gotta earn off of making games it's been so long

>>173701440
even if it's the best schmup of all time in terms of gameplay and graphics it's a tough sell at $5 for 5 levels

>>173701373
Looking good, anon. What engine are you making this in?

>>173701421
The only furry style is the Disney anthro that millennial kids fell in love with and tried to copy poorly, creeply and sexually.

The rest of the anthro styles are just that, anthro.

>>173701523
most shmups don't exceed the 5 levels bar sempai. they all rely on replay value etc

>>173701501
Got a tutorial on light probes?
Im experimenting and still don't know how to use them correctly.
I want to achieve a comfy feeling and ambience.

>>173700893
> $5
> for "Replay Value"
> Leaderboards in 2017

It'd have to be fucking eye sex

I mean, if you've got the assets locked and loaded why not develop 10 stages? or 20? You could just dedicate an extra month or so to play testing and re-tweaking to make a game with substantial content.

reminder that your dreams are possible
>>>/g/59842757

>>173701574
Game maker.

>>173680235
I hate my day job.

I like devving, it's fun, but if I won the lottery devving as a hobby would get such a minor fraction of the time I give it now.

Desire to get out of corporate America is the pressure that will hopefully make a diamond in this case.

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>>173701523

>>173701523
Shmup levels tend to be pretty long and have high replay value, 5 levels seems about average.

But that's no excuse to think that you can pass off a shitty Touhou clone with """""style""""" as a game worthy of anyone's money.

>>173701521
>I might end up releasing it for free which was my initial plan
To be honest, I think releasing the base game for free is a good idea, especially when it's kinda small. Then you have an "engine" and can release paid DLC, or a level editor, or maybe a soundtrack for fans who want to support you. That is going to be my approach at least.

>poohou clone discussion
you should clone a good shmup for once instead of this animu kusoge

>>173701283
>moving around primitives in blender

how is this gamedev?

>>173701862
Its called level design anon. I'll put the mechanics soon once i achieve my "Comfy" Feeling.

picking up love2d yet again, does anybody have the problem of jumping through all engines/frameworks to find something comfy?

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>>173701668
I spent 3 months on the 5th level. I'm aiming for a condensed type of experience ( hopefully the player will feel so as well)

>>173701962
>love2d
come on this is basically enginedevving with 1/100th the performance and with a faggoty name on it

>>173701950
If you're serious about continuing it then at least drop the loli dunce hat.

>>173701765
>>173701854
I never played Touhou, please anon stop

>>173702039
Gifs of cutscenes aren't gameplay, I'm worried about your game, anon.

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>>173700316
pls

>>173702185
Like you said, they're simple but fine.

>>173701647
light probes are really simple, they're a cheap way to give the illusion of baked lighting to moving objects.

you also dont need baked lighting if you're not going to have a lot of indirect lighting, like a fireplace at night or the sun leaking in through the window into a dark room

I don't think you have the skill to make those two scenes look good since baked lighting is going to be kinda photorealistic and it's going to clash with your very simple models

I would go with unlit or better, half lambert lighting which would make your scene bright while still allowing shadows

your colors are too cold and saturated to be comfy, especially the floor. its going to improve a lot if you just play around with that

>>173702185
>no shock diamonds
ABSOLUTELY APALLING

But other than that, looks good.

>>173702185
eh

>>173701459
I think i should continue. I don't want a project unfinished again.
>>173702087
I'll just make a comfy game using the scene then.
>>173701501
I forgot to turn some of the things into static thats why my lighting doesnt work nicely.
Thanks for telling me though.

>>173702346
I'm still texturing the floor. Anyways thanks for the advice regarding the simple models.

>>173702175
>Gifs of cutscenes aren't gameplay
there is only so much you can show in a 3 seconds gif...

>I'm worried about your game, anon
me too

>>173699067

> you will never be able to make a game to the quality you want it to be

>>173702513
4chan supports minutes-long webms.

>>173701283
>non existent loli jam
Explain

>>173702468
I think your models are fine by the way, don't take that the wrong way. you just can't slap ultra hd lighting on them or its going to be jarring. good luck anon

>>173702513
There's a 20 second Webm like 10 posts above your gif. Stop making excuses, anon. Do you even have a game?

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>>173702556
I don't have any webms. Here is a "gameplay" gif I guess.

>>173702513
Graphics-wise it looks pretty great, certainly better than the vast majority of games here.
If the gameplay isn't absolutely abhorrent then I'm sure you will get a decent amount of sales if you market it right, don't ever say that you "focused on style/aesthetics" because that implies you didn't care about the things that actually matter.

>yfw want to work on your game
>yfw arent working on your game

>>173702849
>I don't have any webms.
Next you're going to say you were only pretending to be retarded?

And $5 for 5 level game that's not a sandbox is not something i'd pay.

>>173702849
>I don't have any webms.
Then make one? Maybe if you showed gameplay some people would actually be interested.

>>173702849
Juiced out the ass and you obviously have talent. But not showing off the gameplay much.

>>173702849
Anon make your game, don't listen to some fags here. you have a catchy aesthetic going and I hope to see this game released. I will be keeping an eye on it.

>yfw when you see a nice polished game on greenlight/Steam/itch
>yfw you thought about making exact same game a year ago
>"nah, my ideas are shit"
>yfw it happened a few times already

how do I start believing in myself

>>173702858
I'll keep that in mind! Definitely not going to market the game the way I described it on this thread though.

>>173702957
>>173702987
I'll make a webm and post it someday. The soundtrack is cool imo so look forward to it.

>>173703057
>>173703065
Thank you very much!

>>173703442
>no dev wants to become yes dev
All you need to do is dev.

>>173702849
I just played the demo for a while and here are my thoughts:

It's hard, but not the good kind of hard, it's the kind of frustrating hard and this is mostly because of the movement.

The player movement is frustratingly slow, I kept dying to the first few enemies because it's simply impossible to rely on reflexes and instead you need to memorize their positions and hope that your slow ass is quick enough to dodge that slowly approaching enemy.

Visual clarity is lacking, this is natural since the game focuses so much on juice but it's literally impossible to see anything when enemies are exploding and shit is flying everywhere.

Overall it's a solid game but the player movement really kills it for me, the turtle speed also completely clashes with the "ultra speed" aesthetic going on.

>>173703442
>tfw my ideas are shit

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>>173703442
anon

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Progress!
Mostly working on the UI and fixing a couple of bugs.
Later I will plug in the UI with the game itself (making the buttons work, etc)
How many levels should I make for this? I'm really bad at level design.

Oh I also want to add a bunch of nice particle effects and sounds to make the game more lively.

What's /agdg/'s choice for audio playback?

>>173703720
Also I just realized that there's a weapon cooldown system which forces me to stop shooting, I honestly don't like that.

>>173702231
>>173700316
I'm not familiar with 3D gamedev. Sorry friendo. Did you try asking in the Discord chat? I believe they are more into gamedev than wannabes here

>>173703442
You work on stuff instead of blogging every thread and making dumb threads on /v/ or /ic/, cristian.

>>173704032
Dunno bout that, but industry standard is still Bink. Just use anything which can play .ogg, mp3 is out of the question due to retarded license.

>>173704325
I'd be willing to give it a try. Where could I join up with the discord?

would it be better for a complete beginner to follow "unity tutorials" and try to learn syntax and programming concepts through some guy on youtube, or would it be better to learn c# separately first through books/shit like codecademy?

>>173704554
Learn at least the basics of C# first, if only for a few days. If you don't know any C# it would be kinda stupid to jump right into Unity where you "need" to know about the huge API and all that. On the other hand, there are a bunch of Unity tutorials which also assume that you know nothing about C#, but personally I'd learn the language first, then the API later.

>>173703720
>>173704181
Thanks for the feedback!
Actually that demo is 4 months old I believe. I fixed lots of shit that was frustrating.
I removed the cooldown/overheat system because it acts against the "feel powerful" point of the game. And I improved the clarity (somewhat) in that level in particular and other levels as well.
I haven't worked on increasing the speed yet, though I received similar notes on how slow the aircraft is. I have to say it needs some getting used to, and by the time you play through the 1st and 2nd level you'll get accustomed to the aircraft's sluggish movement. But it's still an issue, even for me at times desu, so I'll look into for sure.

>>173700516
I just recently moved away from clock() because it gets messed up by sleeping and am now trying to get clock_gettime() to work...

>>173704443
https://discord.gg/DSzZa9K

>>173705093
All right thanks

What should I know before starting down this rabbit hole? I have time in my hands and I'm finding it hard to be passionate about other things.

Game deving seems like a nice place to put some time and learn some stuff. What should I be aware of?

>>173705230
>What should I be aware of?
The last 10% of development will take 90% of the time and it's the most unfun part.

>>173705230
You need to get good in dozens of different skills if you want to be successful. Programming, art, sound, animation, etc. Each of these areas can take years to become even mediocre at and some people dedicate their entire life to one of them.

Expect slow results and don't get upset if it doesn't turn out like you thought it would.

>>173705451
>>173705487
these

if you're passionate about game dev it will likely be rewarding in the end but it it'll take years to get there

>>173702062
there are plenty of libraries for it, you can get a 2d platformer in minutes, performance isn't an issue for a 2d game to begin with (unless you're doing serious shit)

>>173705230
That programming is piss easy and becoming a good artist is more important.

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>coworker A comes into office
>normally hang out with the guy
>he knows I'm deving
>he asks to see progress
>kinda shy about it
>coworker B is overhearing our conversation
>he's generally disapproving of how I spend my free time programming
>Urges me to show progress
>show it
>Coworker B literally says: "So what do expect out of this? To sell it? That's a waste of time."
>Me: "If it was a waste of time I would have stopped"
>Coworker B: "You should stop"

>>173706073
grass is greener on the other side

grid collision vs line segment snapping?
for a 2d games is it really necessary to make collision box based instead of making the sprite snap to lines? slopes would be easier too, am i missing something?

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I got contacted by gog.com and they are interested in hosting my game on their site.
post ideas for creepy shit

>>173706073
This tbqh, it's super easy to make a workable game if you don't mind having a bit of spaghetti and anons laughing at your code. If it works, it works.

Art is hell because there's no such thing as bad art that looks good, you have to be genuinely good at art and there's no way around that.

>>173705451
>>173705487
Thanks. I'll get on it then.

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Repost from last night.

>>173706195
>If it was a waste of time I would have stopped
You need to improve your comebacks

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How's this look? The window and door will get properly textures soonTM

>>173702849
absolutely gorgeous

>>173706996
looks brilliant mate, what kind of game is it for?

>>173706510
comfy artstyle, link? demo?

>>173706410
you need collision for jumping and other physics

>>173706931
nice overwatch clone

>>173707201
Thank you. It's for Comfy Alchemist, which is basically a mix of Animal Crossing's comfy atmosphere and Atelier's alchemy mechanics.

>>173706931
>automatic revolver
you had one job

>>173706931
the smoke animation doesnt make sense

>>173706996
Nice. I wouldn't mind being raped inside that.

Games need less slimes and more gelatinous cubes.

>>173706931
Love the recoil thing, as well as the gun flipping ( dunno the word for it but you get it).
I guess maybe balance the colors towards a specific palette, the green and yellow and red don't clash nicely imo

>>173706195
>/agdg/ literally haunts you in real life to tell you to give up

>>173707492
*more slime girls

>>173706195
coworker B sounds jelly

>>173707492
YES LETS GET SUED

>>173706195
dont let them crush your dreams anon, never give up

>>173707683
>jelly in a cubic form is copyrighted

>>173706195
>crying italian man dressed as a native

im not sure what expression you are trying to convey

>>173707805
No need to thank me
>The gelatinous cube is an invention of Gary Gygax, and first appeared in the Monster Manual (1977),[1] rather than being lifted from outside sources and adapted to a roleplaying setting, as were many mythological monsters like the minotaur and dryad.

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> learn C# "thoroughly" in a paid course, 8 weeks full-time, 6h/day at the training center plus countless hours at home, including whole weekends
> finish course with great success, get certificate with A+ (the tests were actually pretty brutal since the course was a preparation towards MCP/MCPD)
> completely burnt out afterwards due to lack of sleep, take a break for 2 months
> haha, time to dev
> realize I've forgotten almost anything, have to look up shit like how to define an enum

Just fucking kill me.

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>>173707683
>>173708052
Where does it say that it's copyrighted?

>>173708052
Roguelikes and EverQuest had gelatinous cubes since forever, you can't copyright a fucking cube.

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>>173706510
Finding an old games console based on the Casio Loopy with its printer built in - it prints out very good protective talismans that actually work but its far out of date and the film is super rare

In today's episode of "Stories that never happened"...
>>173706195

>>173706195
Coworker B is the kind of person who has failed at everything they do, so they project that failure on others.

Also normies don't understand how much actually goes into gamedev. They assume it's as easy as thinking of an idea.

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>>173708160
In the cover of the monster manual (copyrigt TSR hobbies)

>>173706195
coworker B sounds like a bro

definitely knows whats up

>>173708484
>dragons
>unicorns
>centaurs
None of those are copyrightable and neither is a cube of jelly that is actually a "The Blob" ripoff.

>>173708602
ignore the autism poster

I'm going to put a gelatinous cube in my game and there's nothing WotC can do about it.

>>173708602
A gelatinous cube is a gelatinous cube, not a simply a cube made of jelly.

>>173708161
Everquest also had owlbears doesn't mean they aren't copyrighted blizzard even renamed them to owlbeasts to avoid issues

>>173706195
programmers are shitheads

t. programmer

>>173708641
Is that what you do when you run out of arguments?

>>173708120
I've been programming and making games for 5 years now. I still to this day look up basic shit. It's really normal anon don't worry

>>173708887
Burden of proof is on you, you haven't proved that gelatinous cubes are copyrighted.

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>>173707683
>>173707805
>>173708602
Damn, I bet Adventure Time got screwed over this.

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No breaks on this shitty programmer art train

>>173709036
I have. See >>173708484

>>173709125
Did you fix the depth ordering already? It's the easiest shit.

>>173709042
Adventure time is a parody

>>173708484
the book is copyrighted, not necessarily the creatures

>>173709148
I don't see any text saying "All the creatures described in this book are copyrighted", in fact it has several creatures that certainly aren't copyrighted and the gelatinous cube is one of them.

>>173709148
1: That's not proof of copyright.
2: It's not copyrighted, it's trademarked.
3: You're only gonna get pulled on trademark abuse if you use any of the following:
>Exact artwork
>Exact name WITH exact description
4: You're a fucking idiot.

>>173709375
Don't you know the difference between the trademark and copyright symbols?

>>173706195
How much of a little bitch are you that people would ever talk to you like that?

If you allow it then you honestly deserve it. Little bitch.

>>173709371
>>173709345
See
>The gelatinous cube is an invention of Gary Gygax, and first appeared in the Monster Manual (1977),[1] rather than being lifted from outside sources and adapted to a roleplaying setting

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>>173709195
yea, you can see it in >>173701373

If anyone gives me a 32x32 sprite of a face I'll add it to my character randomizer thing

>>173709125
that fat one looks hilarious

>>173703836
you shouldn't make any levels since this jam is cancer

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>>173709612

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>>173709612
Here you go.

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>>173709612
or a 96x128 image for a body with the face going in this square

>>173709586
Gygax is dead, but more importantly a copyright is only as strong as its owners will to enforce it. Seeing as there's tons of slimes and gelatinous cube like derivatives in the video game fantasy canon, I doubt Wizards of the Coast would be able to make a case.

In fact, WotC only has only claimed about 10 monsters as part of its product identity (the beholder is one of them, no surprise) and all you really need to do to get around that is not use their names.

>>173709586
if i draw a cancerous cube it doesn't mean i have copyright protection on it

>>173709475
>http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First

Catalog of copyrights.

>>173709806
Thanks for the input.
Making games = bad
Shitposting = good
Got it.

for fucks sake with the jelly cubes

Will I get ass blasted if I make a low poly game

>>173708995
I'm programming for more than 20 years now, you don't need to tell me that. But it's frustrating that I went from 100 to zero in just a couple weeks of procrastination. And I know it'll only take a few days to reconnect those synapses but it's still frustrating.

>>173710356
>Will I get ass blasted if I make a [...] game
no
and yes (by shitposters)

>>173710356
depends on how low poly we're talkin about

>>173710356
You will get ass blasted if you don't smooth your normals like a human being.

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>>173710504
Something like this. I'd like to do pixel art textures but not sure how well that'd fit in this style.

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>>173709951

>>173710137
That just proves I'm right and you dodged the question

>>173710497
>you don't need to tell me that
calm down senpai. The 20 years don't mean shit if a 5 years brat like me can make better games

>>173710684
>memepoly
don't

>>173710702
No it doesn't because it's not there you fucking idiot.

>>173710115
>As soon as a work is "fixed", that is, written or recorded on some physical medium, its author is automatically entitled to all copyrights in the work, and to any derivative works unless and until the author explicitly disclaims them

>>173710768
No need to get cocky, my comment wasn't supposed to offend you in any way.

> better games
cool story

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>>173710684
first game that came to mind was this when you mentioned pixel art

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>>173709809
>>173709887
>>173710695

>>173710854
It is. I just searched for it.

>>173710684
does Unity advertise their shit with memepoly?

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>>173696280
Tumblr? I need to see more from Spook girl.

give me ideas for an old school rpg with d20 (maybe) system

Deving for 5 hours, then ate a small lunch and got really tired.
I took a shower to wake myself up again, but it didn't work.
Now I'm tired...and moist.

>>173711205
coffee or tea after lunch niqqua what is this amateur hour

>>173709262
Then so is my game.

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>>173709612
here you go anon, you can cut them out yourself I assume

>>173711205
I'd suggest green tea. And a towel.

>>173711027
God, you people are like fucking twelve year olds with this schoolyard debate shit.

The conversation is fucking irrelevant because copyright law isn't a perfect protection and only explicitly forbids direct plagiarism- derivative work can and has been defended countless times in the past. If you're asking can I include X in my game, the answer is yes if you're creative about it.

What are some good resources to learn about games ""theory""? Like not a math subject, but how and why classic boardgames or d&d concepts work. Never had much experience with them irl. But as far as I understand great games like PS:T take a lot of inspiration from them

>>173710937
under that retarded interpretation a cancerous cube or a watery cube could be considered to be derivative works

>>173711302
>what is this amateur hour
No...this is an amateur thread.
Also I already tried that.

>>173711350
Tea won't help.
I already dried off with a towel...but it takes a little bit of time to be completely dry.

>>173711017
excellent

>>173711017
Nice.

>>173711205
Haven't been eating a lot..
My whole family is always complaining to me that i don't help a lot in the house..
I wash the dishes in the midnight when they are asleep. I mop the floor... Every single fucking day they do this. And now im not even doing housework. I'm just eating water and some bread..
Iv'e been devving and procrastinating at the same time.

we should have a gelatinous cube jam

>>173711690
I would be down for it

>>173711690
might be unironically one of the best themes /agdg/ jams ever had

>>173711690
Let's just do copyright jam.
Whoever gets the most DMCA requests in a month is the winner.

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>>173706510
>gog
nice

how much are they gonna pay you?

>>173711880
kek

>>173711880
I don't like the Idea of a Nintendo/Ghibli jam desu.

>>173706510
gog has a very strict policy towards indies, right?
nice anon, congrats

>>173711880
This one demonstrates good marketing too which is a part of game dev most devs don't pay as much attention to as they should.
I like it.

>>173711880
>who ends up in jail is the winner
Imagine the shitposting

>>173706510
congrats, all your game art looks great btw

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>>173711390
I guess the best way to learn is to just try to play them.

>>173709612
Face

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>>173711314
Yea.

I should make an actual character creator to show these off better

>>173712156
you should be fine as long as you don't try to profit off of it

>>173712576
It's a good thing none of us have to eat or pay bills amirite?

>>173712576
Well then we should make sure that the winner goes to jail by providing a monetary prize for the best (read: most DMCA'd) game.

Do you guys know/have experience about web/mobile game sponsorships? We finished our game, now we are trying to figure out how much to ask for, for different sponsorship types.

>>173712704
>i make indie game with somebody else's intellectual property to make a living off it
>i make indie game to make a living off it

>>173712475
The cube with the catface should be the main antagonist.

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>>173712475
>tfw having to fight a bunch of goblins and spooky skeletons
>tfw I didn't even want to be wizard

>>173712929
>sponsorship
what is this cancer?

>>173712929
>sponsorships
Is your game a race car?

>>173712768
>make game using my own IP
>DMCA myself into oblivion
>win money prize
>don't go to jail
gg no re

>>173712704
I have a job, and still dev 60+ hours a week.
>i dont have friends.

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More progress, now you can restart the level.
This will also work for loading the next level once you complete the current one.

>>173713657
You will probably go to jail for wasting the government's time with nonsense DMCAs.