/shmupg/ - Shoot 'em Up General

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Welcome to /shmupg/. Please be polite and enjoy your stay.

>>173685410
I want to end my miserable life.

>>173685510
Amusing.

>>173685742
Kill Yourself.

>>173686846
You're an idiot.

>>173685410
this imagine brought to you by an enlightened 17 year old

who here bored to death of shmups? i'm playing me some dracula x instead atm.

>>173688537
Not me, I'm getting back into shmups after months of not playing

>>173688537
Nope, I got back into it after a prolonged break.

>>173688614
>>173688646
what games?

>>173688745
>what games?
Anything as long as it's by CAVE.

>>173688948
stop talking shit about ikaruga

>>173688745
Satazius and Deathsmiles level 3

quick question, in mushi futari 1.5 original aside from the obvious aiming for no miss and killing in relation to the counter for big gems is there any other way to generate more gems and score? point blanking for instance? no matter what i do i can't quite break 300 mill.

>>173688537
I'm not bored of them, rather bored of having to constantly grind them to practice. It's really hard work. But once you got it down it's also fun.

>>173689137
t. asspained cavedrone

>>173688537
>25 minute long games with simple gameplay
you'd have to be a literal autist to not get bored of them

Anyone know what the dadregga 2016 sales numbers were or how to find them?

>>173690232
It's like constantly having a race against Usain Bolt. You always fail, but have infinite continues and nothing to lose, so you keep trying, no matter how much you hate to run against him, til one day you beat him.

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>>173690475
>til one day you beat him.
only you don't and never will as the score can always go higher in one way or another, it's more akin to a game of chess with death.

>>173690661
Only if you fall for the score meme lmao.

>>173690715
isn't the point of the comparison to usain bolt that he is the best in the world?

>>173688537
I'll probably take a break from shmupping soon.
I've started playing CCWI and it's probably something I'm not clearing anytime soon. I'm not bored yet but I'll probably get bored eventually.

>>173690736
It's more like a metaphor for the goal you set yourself in your game. Wether that's a certain score, a 1cc, or a world record, that's completely up to you.

>>173691157
but usain bolt is someone even hypothetically that you could ever ever beat, no amount of training will grant you the succesful mix of perfect genetics and accumulated ability that he has therefore it's more akin to chess with death, no matter how much you play death always wins in the end but you should keep trying anyway.

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>the most shmup-related thing I do lately is play Mahou Otome for half an hour every couple of days

What should I do, /shmupg/?

>>173691789
Stream shmups obviously, how is this even a question

>>173691789
Just like play shmup. Do it for casper.

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>>173691789
Play and or stream.
Mahou Otome isn't a shmup.

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>>173691818
I still can't stream, though.

>>173691890
I could play shmup, but if I'm not playing as Casper, then am I really doing it for her?

>>173691997
Shut up sure it is

>>173691789
Play and stream.

>>173692412
>if I'm not playing as Casper, then am I really doing it for her?
Yes, prove that you are not just a waifufag, but also a player.

>falling for the score meme
>not being a 1cc collector
>2016
LOL!

>>173694019
stop living in the past

>>173694306
in 2016 you should have realized that 1cc collecting was the way of the future

>>173696959
>you will never be good enough to beat that and claim the western record

>>173696959
what means lx0 bx1

>>173696959
i don't understand this comic at all, explain pls

>>173699360
tomoko is waifu

>>173692412
Do it for Reco-chan, clear ultra!

>>173689282
Time your cancels and pick up jewels as quickly as possible. You're going to have to look up routes, but thankfully downloading replays off of XBL just needs an account, not Gold.

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>>173693023
A player... so what you're saying is that I should use multiple girls instead of just one? Sounds pretty shady...

>>173688537
i hope you dont mean the super nintendo version

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wow i did it

>>173706824
I hope you're not a e-celeb parriting pleb who falsely claims it's a butchered port of rondo? which fyi is weeb shit and to easy, dracula x is like cv 1 with nice graphics.

>>173707408
now try expert!

>>173703981
You can also just use a ship instead of a girl if this makes you feel better.

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FUCKING
CLASSIC

>>173711145
im not
but nice meme

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>>173711145
i never said it was a butchered port
its a different game
a worse game

>playing the butchered snes rondo
simply lmao

>>173714620
>playing any game in the series other than Castlevania and Dracula's Curse
LOL!

>>173712845
depends. it's worse if you like easier games and more cinematics and better if you like a traditional cv style challenge and game which i do.

>>173714620
firstly the butchered port stuff is a complete myth 2nd i've already done rondo and it's massively overated and way to easy. I like bloodlines, cv 1/3, drac x and generations.

I really should just stop with cave. I just can't dodge.
Is there any cave game with less micro dodging involved? I just can't get consistent at this.

>>173716213
>Is there any cave game with less micro dodging involved?
guwange.

>>173716213
Dangun Feveron, maybe Deathsmiles.

>>173716213
Espgaluda

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>>173715652
>hurr look at me i've got such oldskool gamer cred :DDD

>>173719105
what the fuck are you talking about? the later stages and bosses are typical cave fare.

>>173716738
>Dangun Feveron
kinda some bosses though not so much.

>>173716738
>maybe Deathsmiles.
defo for 1.1 mbl

>>173719309
you are honestly the shittest troll i've ever seen, tranny/10.

>>173719441
desu I just want kraut to give espgaluda a try the cancelling will probably go a long way to alleviate the micrododging until the second half of the final level that is but he doesn't need to know about that

>>173720143
it's an easy game he would 1cc it in no time, scoring wise i don't know I only played it to just under 40 mill and moved on. The arrange mode on ps2 is miles better imo.

>>173719441
>what the fuck are you talking about? the later stages and bosses are typical cave fare.
You're asking for a Cave game that's also not a Cave game. If you want to alleviate the micrododging that is Cave's main gameplay mechanic, you're either going to play Dangun Feveron, which isn't a bullet hell, Espgaluda, which allows you to slow bullets down, or Mushihimesama original, which deals in less-but-faster bullets than their typical stuff.

>>173720143
I already tried Espgaluda. It's fun, but I always die on stage 4 :(

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>not 6-ALL'ing Castlevania X68000

Stay casual, /shmupg/.

>>173720503
>arrange mode
Neat, didn't know this existed, looks pretty nuts

>>173716213
I forgot to add ibara which is basically garrega on roids.

>>173720552
or guwange like i said.

>>173721379
legit hard as fuck game.

>>173721389
yeah it bungs in esprade mechanics on top and has a much better ost to boot, it should of been the arcade game.

>>173716213
raiden

>>173721871
>legit hard as fuck game.
pure memorization then it's easy as fuck, like any other cv

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Bahmpu~

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>>173726138
Sleepy Casper > Sleepy Patchouli

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Bahmpu~

>>173731469
...debatable

>>173689282
REEEEEE NORMIES!

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>>173734971
I would debate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABxmLld76Y

>>173739169
What did DOJ mean by this?

>>173739169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NonUZzdYRa8

>>173739169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8J0XgOU1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1AOQceE1R4

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Bahmpu~

>>173737961
You would be wrong

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>>173745647
Even if I am wrong, Casper is always right.

How do i gud at Raiden?

>>173749916
get good reflexes

>>173749916
get good memory

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Last bahmpu before bed~

Keep flying, /shmupg/

>>173747095
Bullying is never right

i'm too weak to go full shmup, can't focus on one for more than 4 hours, it's impossible to stay focused, but i have a lot more free time than that, so will play a hentai dungeon crawler to relax.

>>173755927
define full shmup

>>173759503
just playing one game only until you achieve something very difficult for you, not just kusoclear, but really trying to push yourself to the limit. that's my idea of it at least, maybe going for world record and beyond is more accurate.

>>173760138
>that's my idea of it at least
my idea is that it's your main/only game you're playing

>>173760396
imo if you have time for other games(and especially other shmups) you aren't going full shmup. but i don't think it absolutely has to be a game you'll play till the end of times, afaik most japs get wr(or something close to it) and then move on, but while getting it, they don't play other shmups and play as much as they can, not just for 20 minutes everyday until they die, they really push it, which is what full shmup is in my opinion, to really push that score/clear.

mushi is bad game actually

where i can find jap records for poojins? i can't find anything for my game on nico, just some normal kusoclears(some real hipster shit i'm playing).

>>173763909
it's alright but nothing spectacular, dwarfed by futari in every way. 1.5 could of been amazing but as always in sh-3 era cave fucked it up.

>>173765964
slowdown in mushi works kind of weird

I played a shmup yesterday and now I feel weird...

>>173755927
Take breaks in between 1-2 hour long practice sessions otherwise it's not worth it because of diminishing returns.

>>173764067
they don't exist
nobody cares about poojins, not even the japs

>>173772236
uh i already take breaks every 10-30 minutes.
>>173773176
world record here i cum

>>173773659
don't forget to write an article about yourself

>>173764067
Johnson probably already got it

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>>173780378
>>173783009

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you are beautiful no matter what they say

The rng on madball just keeps fucking me over. Sometimes he is very easy, sometimes really difficult.

>>173792118
Dior is kind of an asshole. He could at least give Follett some clothes that fit.

>rng this rng that
if you were good then """""rng""""""" would not matter. adapt on the fly or die.

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>>173794014
At least it's merely an issue of size, rather than design. Whose idea was it to have a skirt that parts and exposes the entire from of the crotch?

>>173794075
Mahou Otome has this rather shitty element to it where sometimes, if you're using compatible familiars your support skills (such as bombs) will be powered up (and thus gain more points when they destroy stuff). This is determined by the RNG, so if you get bad RNG then your skills will be weaker, snuffing some of your scoring potential for the stage, and there's nothing you can do about it~

Well... somewhat. Increasing intimacy with the support familiars in question can raise the odds of this happening, but it still only caps at like 75% chance so you can still get fucked over by bad RNG. Honestly, I haven't a clue what they were thinking with that...

>>173795005
ugly art
delete this

>>173795005
>Honestly, I haven't a clue what they were thinking with that...
it's fookin simple to figure out m8
luck element = people will have to play more
it is f2p so they get money from making people want to play more than they're allowed

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>>173795267
You really can't be too picky with this series, especially when it comes to art of Rosa. It isn't Touhou, after all.

>>173795607
how about not attention whoring

>>173794075
depends on the nature of the rng, batrider for example has a ton of rng that isn't about survival it literally means you can't score as much as nothing you can do about it and we are talking about discrepencies of 500k+ in some instances. Guwange catspider has the kind of rng that can give you unavoidables.

>>173785846
yagawa and his retard deadzones for an inch of the visible screen, ibara has it to fucking silly desu.

>>173797507
That's actually something many shmups have. It's there to actually give zako enemies the chance to even enter the screen. CCWI has it too.

There really should be more games making use of a tate mode, not just shmups.
Playing a game in such a portrait mode gives a whole different feel to it.

>>173802175
You can use your graphic card drivers to rotate the screen if you want, no matter what application or game it is.

>>173803065
Yes, but it would be still better to have an option in the game for this.

>>173802175
It's rather pointless

Horizontal display orientation is common because that's how our eyes and field of view works and most games are designed with this in mind

Tate mode is mostly a vertical shmup gimmick because they were designed for vertically oriented displays. It feels better because in tate mode you get to run the damn thing in higher resolution. Games that aren't designed for this will most likely feel wrong, especially first person games.

>>173809891
Thanks for stating the obvious, but I was also talking about games that make use of it.
Games like Catherine for example could make use of it. Or a game like Shadow of the Colossus also could make use of it if it was programmed around it, so that you can see the giants better.

>tfw no talent

>>173817320
you're not the only one.

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>>173817320
>tfw autism disguised as talent

whats the longest a 1cc has taken you, /shmupg/?

>>173820962
it took klb 2,300 hours to 1cc ccwi

>>173811138
Sorry, I'm just having hard time coming up with games that could actually use a tate mode

It's still probably not worth the effort for devs because tate-friendly setups are very rare

danbo is streaming Ketsui

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>>173822906
That's cool and all, but when is he gonna fix up Poo Revolver?

>>173822906
he screams and says memes all the time. kind of a fag desu

>>173824834
sounds like he'd fit right in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpnsRf2vZug

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>>173832286
>this boss

>>173847087
did you end up playing anything?

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>>173847609
Not today, but the other day when I was talking about it, I did wind up dicking around with CCWI for a little while.

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No-miss bois, that was fun. #6 on leaderboards, had a hell of a time getting there.

>>173848802
Good shit, dude. Now go for #1!

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>>173849414
if only ;n;

>>173849524
Damn, only our boy Johnson could get such a high score.

>>173849524
Is that first score hacked?

>>173850173
no, it's just jonhson playing for the first time.

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>>173850173
Probably. Either hacked or it was a Maniac score somehow uploaded to the wrong leaderboard.

>>173849524
>>173848802
Nice work! Maniac no miss next?

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>>173850989
Maybe someday, but not next. Futari or Crimzon Clover instead.

>>173822906
>danbo
oh the glasgay retard who has no understanding of building loyal consumer fanbases instead opting for complete alienation and rejection moving forward insuring every project he touches now is tainted all because poo revolver didn't earn him enough crack money. Childish moron desu.

>>173853431
you are jealous

>>173853431
What happened?

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How do I stop dying over and over on the first and second stage?
I want to 1CC already but successfully scoring well is too fun. Still, it's making me lose too many potential, still decently scoring 1CCs.
What do?

>>173863726
Play less for score? I would first get the clear, then you can fully concentrate on scoring.

>>173862970
>you are jealous
of not being selfish and idiotic enough to piss on my own market demographic and hinder my own success in the future? Ok then.

>>173863231
>What happened?
Danbo got butthurt by not making enough shekels off blue revolver so instead of banking the small but satisfied and potentially loyal fan base moving forward to future projects he instead decided to abandon the entire project taking a massive shit in the faces of said consumers, if he had bothered to add leaderboards i don't doubt that the fans would of felt motivated to promote his game more and help gain him a reputation but no he's to childish and incompetent to understand elementary level marketing and public relations so shot himself in the foot instead.

>>173867405
Did he really abandon it? I'm not following the dev process or reading farm, just judging by the Steam forums he's still working on it

Though leaderboards and replays are very important and shouldn't be hard to implement, weird that Blue Revolver didn't have them on launch

>>173802175
A bunch of old arcade games do. As far as newer stuff, Downwell has tate mode but it seems broken and pinball fx2 has it. I agree with you I think it's neat. Technically people still make lots of games in portrait but they're just for phones now D:

>>173868427
http://steamcommunity.com/app/439490/discussions/0/152393186500788755/

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>>173863726

>>173871771
Eh, I'd assume that he isn't complaining about not making enough money
I imagine he (them? is it a team) just can't afford working on it full time
Though I agree that saying that you may or may not fix the game is quite alieanting

>>173873227
whats this from

>>173873227
another thing's for sure, you have to play on pcb for your score to count

>>173874201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTZw4JudVqg

>>173874615
t. wank pcb collector with no score to share

let me redpill you

playing at home on pcb is not valid either
you need cold cigarette smell, noisy game center environement and paying for every credit to have a legit score

>>173882295
thanks for the false equivalency assblasted mame user with no scores

>>173884858
owned

>mame
LMAO

>>173881742
I'll watch it later

>>173882295
I wish I knew if where the nearest arcade is, if there is one left. Just out of curiosity.

We actually had arcades but it was like 20 years ago. I wonder how should I go about finding one in an undeveloped country, because Google Maps shows nothing

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You're at the club with your waifu, when these fuckers block your path. What do you do?

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Anyone know how to fix this error? WL works but not BL.

>>173895572
Loadstates seem to work but not going to the main menu.

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I have more pictures of Follett than I thought I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-t6QmQoOSw

>>173899337
Jesus christ, why do waifufags have to push their waifus into everything?
Make a fucking rpg or whatever if you want to draw little girls, but not a sci fi shmup.

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>>173899708
Were you saying something?

>>173899708
more importantly why do you get so triggered by a girl being in a game?

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>>173899708

>>173900073
This is a very subtle waifu though, and actually well painted. Not this cutesy chibi stuff.

>>173900180
It just doesn't fit. Imagine CCWI with waifus. It would ruin the whole atmosphere of the game.

>>173899337
looks better than poo revolver

>>173900276
>Imagine CCWI with waifus.
Been there, done that.

>>173900535
Kinda looks like Chorensha desu

>>173900276
CCWI has atmosphere?

>>173881742
here, i found it in higher quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMNW6NTfKvQ

>>173901243
Dark futuristic military

>>173899708
Who the fuck cares about some character portraits you fucking sperg

>>173901372
>Dark
>everythings garish glow in the dark plastic and candy red

>>173901610
>hurr who the fuck cares about the art design in a game you sperg
People with standards

>>173901624
Better than Cucksui

>>173900276
How doesnt it fit? The game has a light hearted fun atmosphere judging by the vids. How the hell does having an anime girl in it ruin it?

>>173901610
I do when it's at the cost of actual choice, touhou and waifuism are the biggest cancers this genre hav ever dealt with and a big part of whats scaring people away from trying the games because it's immediately associated with pedos and weebs both things average person wants to exterminate.

>>173901842
The game would have been better without this light hearted atmosphere.
Remove the waifus and dumb j-pop music, and replace it with military style, and it would have been much better.

>>173901842
>How the hell does having an anime girl in it ruin it?
You really need to ask this? it's shit and would be a retarded sore thumb contrast to the manly military stuff. cunt me next you'll be asking why my little pony pilots would ruin gradius.

>>173901954
So your problem isn't that it's bad or doesn't fit, it's literally that the style isn't exactly what you want it to be.

>>173902081
No, it just doesn't fit. It fits to a game like Deathsmiles obviously, but the game posted there rather looked sci-fi military style. Only the music and waifus didn't really fit.

>>173901826
>Better than Cucksui
Ketsui conveys a world much more consistently than ccwi and despite being on shite hardware still looks better than ccwis eye rape disco ball on acid look. ccwi is a lot of good things but aesthetics is not one of them.

>>173901826
>better than a game that actually has atmosphere
ok bud

>>173901826
>Better than Cucksui
literally not an argument

>>173902010
Gradius is an existing game retard, comparing it to a new title is absurd. Also it doesn't contrast shit look at the game you're dodging funny little abstract pellets in a cute little pixel ship you'd have to be a grade a autist to take that kind of shit seriously to begin with

dvd here
just got my internet back

>>173902284
>dvd here
>just got my internet back
>Last Online 48 days ago

>>173902284
did you clear Ketsui yet?

>>173899337
good lord literally ruined by that fucking 5 yr old jap girl, why couldn't you for once have a fucking non weeb character. I would never buy this game based on that insulting nonsense alone.

>>173902210
Are you implying that there's no room for light hearted, cartoony sci-fi? Wanting the tone of a setting to be limited is ass backwards.

>>173902378
I haven't logged into Steam yet

>>173902402
I haven't been playing shmups (or any computer games) so no, going to get back on that though

>>173902593
he is actually retarded, don't bother

>>173902273
>>173902273
>it doesn't contrast shit look at the game
The game didn't look much different from Chorensha. except for the waifus, heart icons and stupid music.
If it had music like in CRS it would have been twice as good.

>>173902625
in that case welcome back to the land of the living, we held a funeral and everything

>>173902593
There is room for everything, but it would have been better if it was more seriously.
To me it appears as if the guy who made the game just sucked at making music, and thus put some boring light hearted shit tune in the game and added some waifus.

>>173902273
>Gradius is an existing game retard, comparing it to a new title is absurd.
Why is it? existing SUCCESSFUL games should be a good place to start understansing why it's a fav to begin with and il give you a fucking clue, it's the consistency of style and lack of fucking goober chong pedo shit for cringe lords and boney felchers, shit weasel.

>>173902284
fuck me maxilad thought you'd be halaled by a paki.

>>173902593
>Wanting the tone of a setting to be limited is ass backwards.
fuck me you literally have no grasp of design at all, it's not a more=better subject you silly child. Cartoony sci fi is not the problem, the problem is that sci fi has a bizarre and inconsistent jap infant winking and being a fucking spaz in the corner wtf is it? whats the relevance? it's the pinnacle of fucking clueless design like something a elementary child would do.

>>173903064
>existing SUCCESSFUL games should be a good place to start understansing why it's a fav to begin with
What like Touhou? No one gives a piss about Gradius, it's not worth copying aesthetically nowadays

>>173899337
jesus christ i'm literally triggered by anime!!!
ANIME IS SO GOSH DARN TERRIBLE, GET ANIME OUT OF MY WEEB SHIT RIGHT NOW!!!

>>173903218
>What like Touhou?
WAIFUS ARE THE TOUHOU PREMISE THUS THE ENTIRE AESTHETIC IS BUILT AROUND IT AND IS CONSISTENT YOU FUCKING DUMB CUNT. My god how the fuck do idiots like you even exist.

>>173903064
I ask you again you mental midget, inconsistent with what? The entire game looks like a bunch of silly little toys playing pretend with stars, hearts, numbers and silly fat little wobbly bullets all over the place. A bug eyed girl hardly looks out of place in that mess. You're unbelievably autistic if you consider any of what you see "manly" rofl

It's probably going to sell better because of animu girls, why are you so upset over it

>>173903218
>No one gives a piss about Gradius, it's not worth copying aesthetically nowadays
1. wrong its massively popular 2. why the fuck are you copying anything? be original.

>>173903419
>calls me a mental midget
>can't comprehend a simple and concise point.
>uses "autistic" multiple times in a passive defensive furnished ad hominem

Nah forget it you're not bright enough to have this discussion with.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok

>>173903736
>Nah forget it you're not bright enough to have this discussion with.
He is right though. There is nothing inconsistent about the game. It's just the fact that it would have been a better game if dumbed all the cutesy stuff and instead just had music like CRS.

>>173903891
The design is inconsistent, it features a terrible contrasting style of sci fi mixed with a waifu. the 2 don't fit in anyway so no he isn't right.

>>173903663
>animu sells better
Give me one evidence that this would be true.

>>173903736
>confusing insults with ad hominem like a some dumbshit youtube commenter
>proceeds to offer 0 counter argument and instead dismiss the entire post with "ur dumb"
Class act fucko

>>173904019
The sci-fi stuff is not very detailed though, and looks already quite cartoony.
Just look at the backgrounds and enemies... There is really nothing very manly about the game.

I think it's a game where both styles would fit. Either cutesy or manly, it would both fit to this game.

>>173904019
Sci-fi/mecha/military shit has been mixed with waifus for fucking ages, and this isn't even some grounded realistic sci-fi we're talking about it's silly cartoon ships

I too am incredibly angry about things that only matter to me. Can I be one of the cool kids?

>>173905541
Only if you insult everyone who doesn't care or has different preferences

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>>173903736
>complaining about ad hominems on 4chan

>>173905889
With aplomb, shit-eating retard.

>>173905998
That's the spirit

So where is the proof that shmups with waifus really sell better than shmups without them?

I can't really believe this myth.

>>173906143
Yeah seems like a meme that devs themselves may have bought into

>>173906143
I doubt that there will be any proof, I don't even know a single shmup dev who actively publishes their sales figures

I know people who buy shit just because it has anime in it, but that's anecdotal evidence

>Faye """"""clashed""""" so much with Cowboy Bebop, it would have been better if she was Darth Vader.

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>>173902284
Great to have you back, you ought to find someone to give you a quick rundown on our boy Johnson since you've been out of the loop.

>>173903383
The entire premise of Touhou is some guy getting drunk, making music, and making a game for said music, while also drawing the only thing someone that drunk can possibly draw: poorly drawn anime girls. They're not even waifus, except to people on /jp/.

>>173910806
>making music, and making a game for said music
Mate, this is just bullshit that retarded Touhou niggers use to justify not actually playing the games.

>>173913927
But I do play the games. That doesn't change the fact that Zun is a much better musician than he is coder, game designer or drawer.

The manga aren't too bad, considering what they come from.

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>>173903383
>WAIFUS ARE THE TOUHOU PREMISE THUS THE ENTIRE AESTHETIC IS BUILT AROUND IT
Indeed. Just look at this shameless otaku pandering.

>>173914098
Yeah but just because he's a better musician than a coder doesn't automatically mean he does it all for the music. Take a look at Kraut, he's not the best programmer around and his artwork is pretty damn rad, but you don't see him trying to make a game just to act as an artwork showcase.

http://www.pcgamer.com/how-steam-brought-shmups-out-of-arcades-and-into-a-new-pc-renaissance/

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>>173914515
Yes, look at it. I wonder what the armpit smells like, haha.

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>>173914637
>doesn't automatically mean he does it all for the music
Actually. Yeah.

>>173910806
>They're not even waifus
It's pretty funny because if you consider what one actually constitutes (to the hardcore wee/a/boo tier manchildren and not the le ironic preteen anime crowd,) it's a pretty big red flag for someone to claim that any of the Touhou characters are their "waifu."

>>173914840
all thanks to our boy johnso

>>173915638
>it's a pretty big red flag for someone to claim that any of the Touhou characters are their "waifu."
then why is it ok for reco?

>>173915881
>then why is it ok for reco?
Do not confuse /shmupg/ memeing for actual waifuing.

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>>173914994
Fanart is just a fanart. If ZUN wanted girls to be his main selling point he would simply draw them something like this.

>>173916689
>implying that was drawn by ZUN

>>173916648
Are you trying to tell me Casper is not really Harry's waifu?

>>173915124
That's really weird, because I remember him saying in an interview that he only takes little time with the music, like 2 hours per track or so.

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>>173916689
>zun will never retake this artstyle back
it wasnt good but honestly it's still better than the shit he made for 14 and 15

>>173916826
Where did I imply it? Some people just mimic his style.
>>173917318
To compose a song but probably not polish it entirely.

>>173918054
Yeah, I really miss the old style. It was completely awful, but in an endearing way, like a drawing by a child with poor motor skill. Now it's just awful.

>>173917010
As much as Koakuma is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KkHv1hV0UY
woah.... looks like touhou.......... really is harder................

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>>173919926
Seems like ZUN finally understood the success recept behind cave shooters.

The maker of Battle Crust are working on a new game apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZotJfZl4FA

>>173926642
Maybe that one won't suck.

>>173926781
Shut up, BC is a very nice doujin

>>173926642
Very cool looking honestly.

>>173926642
this looks pretty cool desu i'd buy it

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>enter base with 4 lives
>pass turret wall without dying
>die 4 times to random tanks shooting up my ass
>game over at junkey monkey
Thank god I've never put a minute of practice into this game, otherwise I'd be pretty pissed right now.

>>173936356
That's the hard thing about garegga.
If you enter stage 6 with so many lives, the rank will be to the roof.
But if you enter it with only 2 lives, you have to be able to get through it without a single mistake.

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Casper is my waifu. There are other girls in other series that I may like, but I'd not claim them as waifus or anything. I like to tell myself that I'm not a typical waifufag because I can actually play Deathsmiles fairly well and have intimate knowledge of the mechanics and scoring system 'n tricks, but I don't know. I just really like that game in particular.

>>173919721
I forget why I started liking Koakuma but I don't consider it the same as with Casper. At some point I just started using Koakuma as an online handle, and eventually merged my old handle with it to create my current one.

I apologize for the blogpost. I'm going to sleep.

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Bahmpu~

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>>173899337
>that music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu5TDEpAqwQ

keyboard master-race, what do you use to remap keys?

>>173926642
Stage 1 looks too easy and long for my taste. It does seem to ramp up after that though.
The music is extremely 90's-sounding.

Looks great!

>>173914840
Steam did a good job on increasing availability of these things, too bad asians barely know/care about Steam

But many games tagged as shmups on Steam aren't shmups, so there are no "15 pages of shmups"
And shmups still don't sell, best selling shmups on steam are $1 shovelware with less than $1 effort in them

playing shmups while being sick is a bad idea

>>173946161
autohotkey

>>173949818
doesn't work with my poojin kusoge just like other programs. i wonder if it's possible to map pad to keyboard, though won't surprise me if it won't work too. fucking poojin.

>>173904270
>Sci-fi/mecha/military shit has been mixed with waifus for fucking ages
This isn't an argument for it being a good marriage.

>>173939319
>Casper is my waifu.
Are you a pedo? honest question i'm curious if a link exists between the fantasy and sub concious leanings.

>>173946161
glovepie

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>>173949976
most poojins support gamepad by default, you can use virtual joystick

It looks like CAVE has a special Matsuri version of Deathsmiles. Has this always existed or is it new? http://promo.cave.co.jp/event/matsuri201704/corner

>>173914840
all i see on steam are shit ports of xbox 360 games and indie garbage that nobody cares about

R E N A I S S A N C E

>>173926642
>non existent scoring mechanics straight out of the 1980s
hook this pixel artist up with a good game designer and they might be able to make something special desu

>>173956669
>CAVE
people still cares about this?

>>173959490
>muh hardcore scoring gameplay

>>173959650
>muh 1cc collection

>>173960034
>what is survival scoring
Just because the game doesn't have shitty multipliers all over, doesn't mean it can't have a scoring system. You could for example get a bonus for lives in stock.

>>173960176
Sounds like a shallow game that good players can max out in a week or less.

>>173959548
of course, it's not like there are any other good shmup devs

>>173960526
>who are Stellar Circle, manufacture43, Dodge Roll

>>173960715
not shmup devs that's for sure

>>173961106
>Blue Revolver, Pawarumi, Enter the Gungeon
These are today's biggest shmups. Cave is irrelevant.

>>173961312
A severely unpolished doujin, a kickstarter meme and a roguelike with projectiles.

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>>173950580
Nope. I'm not attracted to 3D flat chest in general.

>>173956669
No idea. I've never heard about it.

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>>173954367
thanks it worked. now next question, is hjkl a meme or someone actually uses it? wasd feels pretty awkward for hori.

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>>173963559
> I'm not attracted to 3D flat chest in general
Does that mean you're attracted to big chest?

>>173963678
>someone actually uses it
I do, but only in vim. Might be fun to try using it for STGs, but I doubt there's anyone that actually uses it seriously.

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>>173959490
The game looks fun enough to warrant a look. Do they have a demo out?

>>173963559
>>173963884
It cannot be helped

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>>173969038

>>173963559
>I'm not attracted to 3D flat chest in general.
Pleb!

>>173963678
It's nice and comfy for roguelikes but I wouldn't shmup like that. Maybe it would have some advantage if you adapt to it.

>>173961312
enter the gungeon isn't a shmup moron

Made it just past the stage 4 midboss in Ketsui, but with a shit score

>>173972307
I don't know what a shmup moron is, but Enter the Gungeon is definitely a shmup. It is labeled as such on Steam and is even listed as a top seller.

i thought it was a meme but max is really online

>>173973646
tred cautiously i don't think it's him, he's been compromised and identity stolen by a poo in loo.

>>173974086
i hope the new guy is good at shmups

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Is it worth going for 1cc on the hardest difficulty if I'm new to the genre? Does it actually make it easier to move from lower difficulty levels?

>>173978672
Depends on the game, how you learn and how well you handle frustration. It's good to play lower difficulties to familiarize yourself with the levels and attacks, then you can adjust your strategies on the higher difficulties. But then if you start off with the hardest you'll have far more pressure to learn so that might help a lot. It will also be incredibly frustrating.

>>173978672
Start with Mushihimesama Ultra

>>173978672
ccwi unlimited is your choice

>>173978672
battle traverse very hard is a good shout, no slowdown either for extra funz!

>>173960373
If it's really so easy, then where are your R-Type world records?
The game is obviously very R-Type inspired, and this was a game which didn't need any "deep" scoring mechanics to be good.

>>173963559
>in general
What did he mean by this?

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>>173963884
Yeah.

>>173969038
2D large breasts are fine too.

>>173981321
It means I don't like kids, and in women I tend towards the ones with larger breasts.

>>173960176
>what is survival scoring
A shitty waste of time

>>173981210
Replaying most levels gets insanely boring in R Type, it would be a much better game if the scoring was more interesting

>>173983323
It's already hard enough to kill as many enemies as possible, so it doesn't really need scoring.

>>173985828
No it isnt wtf are you talking about, not to mention hard doesn't mean good. just because a game has a few basic boring ways to optimize it doesn't mean the scoring is fun

>>173986484
>No it isn't
Yes it is. It's basically impossible to kill all enemies in R-Type games.

R-Type and Gradius are the most successfull shmups ever. I think they did fairly well without scoring multipliers. Not everyone needs autistic Cave style scoring.

>>173987015
Only because the competition was just as primitive right now players seek out games with more intellectually stimulating scoring systems, simply because they are better

>>173987175
Only autists who spend thousands of hours on the games seek out games with convoluted scoring mechanics. Most people are completely satisfied if the main challenge is just a 1cc.

>>173987391
Yeah so people who care about the games, and those are the players developers should consider when making games intead of pandering to casuals. Unless they're only in it for the money and nothing else that is.

>>173987634
>implying most players play for score
You also can care about shmups and just play for survival, you know.

>>173987951
You literally can't

>>173988039
Of course you can. To most people the genre is already difficult enough.

>you will never clear ccwi unlimited

>>173989542
It's a DFK-tier clear-em-up, it's not that hard.

>>173990078
seems you never played unlimited
it's just impossible

>>173990240
I have, played it got mid stage 3 on my first try and never bothered again because it just boils down to
>almost every pattern is on the tier of 2nd loop DFK/strong DFKBL (i.e can't be dodged conventionally)
>have to memorize the exact times to use the lock on to clear enemy bullets
>break/bomb spam because your gauge fills up quickly

>>173991497
>stage 3
wow

>>173991692
I never credit feed and I had already seen enough by the end of stage 1.

>>173963559
>Nope. I'm not attracted to 3D flat chest in general.
When someone defaults to the polar opposite it looks like a cover up. How can you like casper but not laura b for example?

>>173991857
i also can get stage 3 with type Z
so, it's still very hard. maybe unlimited is hardest game i've seen
i am not of that level, i should play more and more games, before go full unlimited

Someone, gift me mushi on steam

>>173994450
why? it's easily downloaded for free.

>>173983323
>insanely boring in R Type
No shit, it's a terrible series.

>>173994552
cheevos..

>>173993079
I think you're under the misconception that I even have type-Z unlocked.
If CCWI unlimited is the hardest you've ever seen maybe you ought to play more than just two shmups.

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>>173994718

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>>173994757
>look guys I am so hardcore i can clear Unlimited blind

>>173994910
is that aquas?

>>173994757
hardest game with balance, not resources dump or retarded requirements like cave

>>173995169
That's not what I said dumbfuck.

>>173995292
>unlimited
>not a resource dump
"IT'S OK IF IT'S IN A GAME I LIKE"

>>173995280
ye

>>173995459
Oh wait, let me correct myself; it's not a resource dump since you have unlimited break/bombs. Yup, sure is balanced.

>>173995498
christ how much did he blaze

ccwi unlimited is a shitty gimmick game, not fun and not hard compared to games that are actually well designed

total failure of a mode

>>173996548
>ccwi unlimited is a shitty gimmick game
ccwi in general is bad, it wants to be cave so bad but comes just short

>>173996885
>it wants to be cave so bad but comes just short
agreed, it suffers from the poojin curse of terrible movement speed in non lock to.

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>shitting on Ikaruga and R-Type is not hipster enough, let's shit on CCWI too
You guys are so fucking pathetic

>>173993057
>laura b
Pleb taste. Liliana is where it's at!

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>>173993057
>>173999270
I don't know who those are. Still, the only time I like loli is 2D.

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>>173999734
That's what they all say...

>>173995498
when i see aquas stream, i think he want to suicide

>>173999270
>Liliana is where it's at!
Jesus i wish i'd just not search things i haven't heard of before.

>>173999734
>I don't know who those are.
Probably for the best.

>>174000368
>when i see aquas stream, i think he want to suicide
yeah i think he has a crippling vidya addiction desu.

can i emulate Karous?

>>173998914
heh, nothing personnel kraut