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/shmupg/ - Shoot 'em Up General

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NEVER EVER edition.

This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

Previous thread: >>173685167

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>RECENT RELEASES:

Bullet Soul
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Ghost Blade HD
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Zangeki Warp
http://store.steampowered.com/app/564040/

Caladrius Blaze
http://store.steampowered.com/app/386770/

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu
http://store.steampowered.com/app/464450/

Mecha Ritz Steel Rondo
http://store.steampowered.com/app/463070

RefRain
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435970/

Shmups Skill Test
http://store.steampowered.com/app/430290/

WITCH-BOT MEGLILO:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/437020/

Blue Revolver
http://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/

Danmaku Unlimited 3
http://store.steampowered.com/app/450950/

>UPCOMING RELEASES:

Xydonia
http://www.indiedb.com/games/xydonia

iMalice
http://amamoriya.gozaru.jp/imalice/

Go Go Burunyanman Ecstasy!!! Steam-Edition
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660224194

Other links
STG stream aggregator: https://stgrillz.appspot.com/

/shmupg/ high-score list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0DesawgMQiFNMv2MZxxwdjzBudCIMMb3BkjQJaHjxI/edit?usp=sharing

/shmupg/ community YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA
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Is Danmaku Unlimited 3 worth buying?
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>/shmupg/ struggling to survive most of the time
>end of the thread
>makes it to 800+ replies all of the sudden

Well how about that.

>>174367109
Compatibility mode? Yeah, none of the settings there made any difference, I don't think. After a while I just kinda gave up and stopped thinking about it.

>>174368052
I dunno, but now that you mention it I can kind of see it. There's a cat in the background...
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>>174375021
If you enjoyed 2, yes. It's a harder game overall, though.
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>>174375105
>I just kinda gave up and stopped thinking about it.
ds2 isn't worth it anyway.
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>>>174374867
>generic j-rock animu ost
Color me suprised.

> I prefer something more laid back for level themes
That's because you are a shit player who can't take the pressure. The musician of CCWI is actually also a good player, that's why he really knows his shit. The people cave hires are just generic artists who also could work in the anime industry instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-XPfVkf3LI&index=10&list=PL8B6644AA0ACFACBF
This shit is stg pure. It has very stg related tunes. Not just generic jazz or j-rock. It has tunes you also find in Gradius for example. It's stg ost on a whole different level. It's there to pump you up, how it should be.
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>>174375105
The power of autistic offtopic arguments
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>>174375369
>shitting on Manabu Namiki
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>>174375292
Because you fucking hipsters and waifufags always end up screaming CCWI IS SHIT IKARUGA IS SHIT!!!!
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>>174375369
>those terrible sounding hi hats
>meandering organs
>random hits that came with the daw

Truly a masterpiece rofl
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>>174375454
>autistic
I swear to god if i have to see this stupid fucking buzzword misused again i'l shit a biscuit.

>>174375369
>That's because you are a shit player who can't take the pressure.
do you scream this in the ears of the children you molest?
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>>174375613
God, I love both games, you're the one ruining them here with your damn autism.
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taking bets on kraut being a manlet.
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>>174375686
Film it ya autist
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>>174375761
I am just simply replying to people shitting on them you fucktard.
If you dont want to praise them, then simply stop shitting on them 24/7 becvaise you are such fuicking hipsters and tatseless waifufags here

>>174375858
I am 190 tall and was one of the best basketball player son my school. I could beat the living shit out of you fucking waifufag
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>>174375858
I always imagine him as a lanky, oafish fag who lives with his grandma
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>>174376035
>I could beat the living shit out of you fucking waifufag
nothing spells "hardman" like wanking to kids and never leaving the house.
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>>174376147
>oafish fag who lives with his grandma
explains where he got those nappy change skills.
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>>174376208
>2017
>still complaining about pedos using the same old retarded stereotypes
Back to red.dit
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>>174376479
>complains about stereotype
>still literally the stereotype

up the shitter, gary glitter.
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Problem with /shmupg/ arguments is that there's always someone making bold claims that border on bait, like god himself came down from heavens and whispered this truth into his ear, and everyone who doesn't agree in a slightest is automatically wrong, retarded and also is a hipster
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>>174376479
honest question when did you first know you were a pedo?
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>>174376683
You do not even know me, so stfu.

>>174376795
When I discovered the internet.
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>>174376781
so to summarize then, the problem with shmupg is kraut.
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>>174376781
He's the DNA of /shmupg/ at this point
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>>174376781
Problem with shmupg is that its full of trolls, hipsters and people with shittastes.

>>174376957
No, i am just a person who stands out here, because I am not as retarded as the vast majority here.
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>>174377074
>because I am not as retarded as the vast majority here.
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>>174377074
So once again the problem is everyone but you, gotcha.
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best track in any shoomup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7kdoEt2xg
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>>174377364
Face it, I am top-tier poster. I have decent scores for western standarts, I have top-tier taste, I am the only person here who can draw Casper well, and I even work on an own game with fucking Homing lasers. If that's not top-tier then IDK
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>>174377074
>because I am not as retarded as the vast majority here.
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>>174375021
>Is Danmaku Unlimited 3 worth buying?
it's good but the bosses are fucking hard
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>>174377464
Why is that that so unimaginable for you? Only generic dumbfucks cant understand this. If you are highly intelligent, you will never fit in. You will always stick out from the crowd
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>>174377746
Reading some click bait list on intelligent traits and mimicking them doesn't make you intelligent.
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>>174377746
You don't stick out, you actively turn any crowd against you which is usually the result of being an insufferable idiotic cunt rather than being to intelligent for the world
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>>174377974
Why am i insufferable? Because i think CCWI is objectively a great game? Well, hate to break to you, but it objectively is.

It objectively is one of the best shmups made, and most likely also will have a good ost then.
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>tfw to intelligent too use 'objectively' correctly
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>>174377546
Did you sort the laser out?
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>>174378271
>to intelligent too
yea, very intelligent..
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>>174378326
It's a meme you dip, a shitty meme at that but a meme nonetheless.
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>>174378310
What do you mean exactly? I worked on them and made them better, yes, but they are still not perfect. Worked on GUI and enemy AI instead.

Making the lasers come out of the barrels is tricky though. Still not really sure how I will do this.
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>>174378804
You wanted to make them follow the ship before they start bending, any luck?
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>>174378946
Yea, tried stuff there, but still couldn't get it to work.
I am currently working on replacing their objects completely again, and making the textures and trails better and even adding particles, first.

Then I will try to give them a pre-fire animation I guess, but I already tried doing this, and it somehow looked like crap. I just have to look more into how to animate objects with trails, then I'm sure I will also be able to do this. Because when I made the pre-fire animation the trails somehow were completely fucked with zig zags in them.
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>>174377546
You constantly insult people in an attempt to assert your worth on a fucking anonymous imageboard at every possible turn, which in turn derails threads into retarded arguments like this one. You constantly generalize despite the fact you have no information on who is posting here. You keep trying to pass off your opinions and preferences as facts and best possible choices. Liking someone else's work doesn't make you a better person. Even worse, when there is no problem, you try to create one. Someone posts "CCWI ost is good but it's not the best thing ever" and you fly off your handle "REEE I KNEW SHMUPG HATES CCWI BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL HIPSTERS", despite the fact that other person said that CCWI ost is good.

Preferences are just preferences and opinions are just opinions. Funnel your insecurities into scoring or game development instead of shitting on everyone, and it'll make you a better poster.
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>>174379345
>You constantly insult people
Oh, you mean like 90% of people do it here? well tough shit.
Don't even gonna read the rest of this wall.

gute nacht
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>>174378804
>enemy AI
>shmup
oh boy the kraut is making a shitty euroshmup
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>>174379806
by enemy ai i just mean pathing, and shooting of course
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>>174379295
Did adding timers mess with the bending/homing code or what?
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>>174379295
Have you tried to normalize the ships current position to use as a baseline in the lasers' initial animation/movement?
like say base=ship.x/y/whatever
then use 'base' variable in the movement (laser bending = (base +/- animation coordinates).

This should always keep the lasers in their same relative positions around the ship regardless of where it is moving until you change them into a state without the 'base' so they can fire off without needing to remember where the ship is (making a shmup as well but I apply the logic to background horizontal movement in a v.scroller )
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>>174380079
I didn't even add timers yet. I just made an animation of how they are supposed to come out of the barrels (making a circular movement first), but this somehow made the trails look like shit. No idea what went wrong there, but I'm sure i will be able to fix this when i come back to it tomorrow.
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>>174379483
>I'm better than anyone else
>I do what everyone else does
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Ikaruga is actually a really shit game, though
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>>174381109
Not helping
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I just tried CCWI and it's bad, certainly not as good as any ZUN release.
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I just installed Touhou and it gave my computer AIDS
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>>174384179
You shouldn't have used Sanae.
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>Rime Creative Director: "Reading Neogaf made me cry for two days"
do you think the poowarumi or poo revolver devs cried for 2 days when they discovered shmupg?
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>>174384179
What kind of dingus install Touhou to play it?
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>>174385997
serious question, what is neogaf? if it weren't for 4chan talking about it all the time i'd have never heard of it.
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>>174374619
>Bullet Soul

cant wait to laugh at all the dumb retards who will buy that garbage
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>>174387153
most popular libcuck videogame forum
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>>174387575
YOU'LL SEE
THAT MY MIND IS
TOO FAST FOR EYES
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What's up with the deleted posts that surface from time to time
Are people posting Deathsmiles lolicon or something?
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>>174388327
eat less junk food fatty
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>>174388668
it's the bird!
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>>174388327
if you're so good at biking why didn't you win the xgames
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KBR post your Caspers
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>>174387281
There is only one good game in this image.
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>>174387281
Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have two DFKs?
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>>174388668
Okuu does that and there was also this post earlier about never seeing it coming.
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>>174374619
Please don't bring console wars here.
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>>174398358
>t. salty pcuck mad he'll never get garegga 2016
SONY
ALWAYS
WINS
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KBR, how much you have in Satazius?
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>>174381281
most of 2hu fags couldn't move on to other stgs I feel pity for them
>but muh 11 thousand hours gameplay
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>>174399357
11k is scrub tier. Get it up to 30-40 and I'll consider caring about your opinions.
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Anyone got a Battle Traverse download?
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>>174403962
https://mega.nz/#!ThBHGIgA!P_nsxYNq4ZwIt81-S_sqGe3ezlnWNmrC-kQokjA8hRs
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>>174404532
heh you're quite the prankster
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>>174403962
>Anyone got a Battle Traverse download?
Yes alongs you are courteous.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zuqpeq43027sukr/RJ157191.rar?dl=0

>>174388745
I did that's why i am 42 pounds lighter today than then.

>>174388327
Did you really go through all the trouble to make a webm? pretty gay desu.

>>174389967
Because the xgames is a joke for flatland and competition riding in general is a very different thing revolving more around consistent routines which in practice terms steals all your time away from developing new ideas.
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>>174406462
Thank you based baldy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TjOs-uYqOE
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>>174406702
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>>174398943
You mean my score? 6.4 million. Could have been better, but I was satisfied with this.
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>>174406827
too epic, i can't handle it
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>>174409506
i mean time
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>>174410776
objectively
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>>174410901
120 hours
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doj is really requires learn routing, your dot dodging skill not help much here
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>>174411308
For scoring it requires lots of routing, but for survival it's rather just about precise dodging
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>>174411361
Maybe for a shitty 1-ALL
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>>174411481
For a shitty 2-all dodging is most likely also very important.
You guys here already said yourself that cave games are designed in a way where people could theoretically clear them blind.
Because they are very much about just reflexes and precise dodging, rather than memorizing routes (at least for survival).
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cave is the best, baby
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>>174411646
I sure as hell didn't say that and the people that did say that sure as hell never tried to go for a 2-ALL.
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>>174411716
>never tried to go for a 2-ALL
Neither did you, so what is even your point?
I was talking about a 1-all of course when I said this, since I didnt even try to 2-all the game. But anyway... i don't care how a 2-all is in this game, since I don't play caveshit.
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>>174411686
meh, they are ok, but overrated
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Games like Cyvern for example are pretty much just as good as a cave game, but you never hear anyone talking about Kaneko.

The only thing which makes cave special, is just the amount of games they have created. They just got lucky and could survive longer than others.
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>>174416607
>They just got lucky
It's not about luck, it's about consistently making good games that sell well.
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>>174416864
>it's about consistently making good games
And pandering animefans
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>>174417069
Nothing bad with this as long as the game's style is consistent.
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>>174417124
t. waifufag

I much more prefer dark future style shmups. Can't really take a game seriously if it's just full of cute anime girls. Same with anime. Cute girls doing cute things is rather just annoying.
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>>174417331
>I much more prefer dark future style shmups. Can't really take a game seriously if it's just full of cute anime girls.
So you prefer games that pander to military/sci-fi lovers over games that pander to anime lovers. This is fine.
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>>174417568
No, I prefer games that pander to manly men. I love anime too, but I never watched moeblobs. I watched the good stuff like Akira, GitS, etc
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>>174417684
Your insecurity is pretty cute.
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>>174417331
How about lewd anime girls doing cool things?
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>>174418059
Hmmm... Plastic Little was my first anime OVA and still one my favorites.
I like all kinds of anime, but to be top-tier, it has to be dark.
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>>174417684
>I watched the good stuff like Akira, GitS, etc
patlabor 2 is for real men.
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>>174419162
True, I also one of my favorites. I had the OVA of it.
Was a bit too calm for my taste though. At least until the last phase.
As soon as the helicopter starts wrecking shit, the movie goes crazy.
But before this scene, it was surprisingly calm.
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>>174419284
you sound like a pleb, the gold factor of patlabor is the in depth political/philosophical conversations between goto and the defence spook which clearly reveal mamorus oshii thoughts as a bitter old marxist. The city lockdown scene which shows a perfect example of how a police state is formed with the support of a deluded populace who exchange freedoms for security cue to contrasting birds flying free in the reflection on the glass behind. A truly great espionage thriller for any politically aware thinking individual with any clue to japans past which sounds to me like it went over your head in favor of DUDE ACTION LMAO,
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>>174419940
I bought the movie when I was 12 or so. I barely could understand it, because it was just japanese with english subs. I was a bit too young for it back then, but I still liked it very much.
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>>174419940
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>>174417684
>No, I prefer games that pander to manly men.
You have some bizarre warped sense i of gender
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Dadregga The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIyeuK9QBJY
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>>174411686
i don't even know what to play anymore now that i've finished all cave games. nothing else holds up in comparison. i think it's time to find a new type of game to play.
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>>174420187
so go watch it again, it's one of the very few occasions btw where the english (uk) dub is actually superior in parts.
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>>174419940
mamoru oshii is just a hack that does action movies(that rip-off hollywood shit) with a bit of 2deep4u shit thrown in for plebs like you. now, there is nothing wrong with that but his movies are terrible lol!
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>>174420375
>>174420187
https://youtu.be/r2sqdudEle4
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>>174424134
yeah nigga kyoani are best
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>>174424134
Terrible bait.
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>>174424026
After thinking about it again, I actually have (or had?) the English dub version.
I don't watch many movies nowadays anymore though. Too emo and pretentious, just like music.
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>>174424289
>if you don't like x you like y
shit you are even dumber than i thought. i like a good thriller but oshi's movies are 6/10 at best and steaming pile of dog shit at worst(sky crawlers). he's the single most overrated anime director.
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>>174424501
t. butthurt burger mad that the japs make better movies with only 0.1% of the budget murrikans have
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>>174424593
>burger
лoл
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>>174424501
patlabor 2 is a 9/10 and you clearly don't have a fucking clue about it's real subject matter or its point and kenji kawais ost is top tier, you overvalue your own opinion. I suppose you think satoshi kons overated to?

>>174424493
>I don't watch many movies nowadays anymore though. Too emo and pretentious, just like music.
prefer to chill and child porn?

>>174424593
This, burgers have the most abysmal tastes due to the condition of retard magnet entertainment over the years.
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>>174424697
кeк
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>>174424720
>about it's real subject matter or its point
a bit of badly written philosophy thrown in doesn't make these movies less shit, go read a book, nigger.
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Can't believe, one guy made crimzon clover
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>>174424998
Who says it's badly written? it's actually incredible and thats the point. Just because you are to dumb to identify good work doesn't make it less good and your political knowledge is dire to begin with.

>>174424998
>go read a book, nigger.
I do both and i'll happily fuck you up in either subject.
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>>174425130
>Can't believe, one guy made crimzon clover
Really? it's so poor i could only assume its the work of a single person.
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>>174424873
paш би
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>>174425332
>>174424873
>>174424697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8THW4DDVeBg
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>>174424720
>prefer to chill and child porn?
Just fuck off you chav.
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>>174425227
How can you come to that conclusion when it doesn't have waifus AND does have homing lasers?! Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>174425141
>ur dumb
nice argument there chav.
>it's actually incredible
you've seen nothing, i thought brits are better than this.
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>>174426369
Homing lasers, especially as well done as in CCWI, are actually the most difficult to make subweapons in shmups.
It's way more complicated to make than just a fucking burst beam or whatever.
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>>174426369
>>174427327
>people fawning over homing lasers out of all things
Is this a meme?
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>>174419940
anime is for plebs dipshit
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>>174428240
>Is this a meme?
KLB is a meme, yes.
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>>174426182
>Just fuck off you chav.
Cus you prefer quiet for you and some little unsuspecting lady? eh eh ;)


>>174429205
Wrong anime is merely a medium like any artform, all genres exist within it.

>>174426807
>you've seen nothing
k.
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>>174426182
chill and netflix? nah dis nigga b like children and nutflix
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>>174430265
>KLB is a meme, yes.
it stands for kraut loves babies
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>>174431298
anime is for children, no grown man would ever watch such drivel unless they have the mind of a child
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>>174432861
>no true scotsman
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>>174432861
games for children
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>>174434014
maybe your nintendo shit is. i play real games made for sophisticated minds, like garegga and ikaruga.
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Help I cant tell who's being ironic anymore
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someone beat esprade? how hard is it
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Why do I bother entering my initials on an NES/SNES/Genesis/etc. game? It just wipes the scores when you turn the game off anyways.
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>>174437776
becouse it's fun? just make a state and play a shmup, faggot.
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>>174437958
>state
>emulation
LOL!
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>>174438065
flashcarts let you save state, good job showing us again that you don't know shit about hardware.
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>>174438429
>flashcarts
>anything other than original cart and original hardware
o im laffin
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>>174438065
i do not have any console, what should i do
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>>174438715
wow never knew your autism is this severe
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>>174438832
get a job and buy one
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Autistic memes is one of the reasons why /shmupg/ is so dead
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m68k is meme chip? many arcade games use it
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>>174440386
m68k series was one of the competitors of x86 in the 80s, Amiga and Macs used it too
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>>174431298
>Cus you prefer quiet for you and some little unsuspecting lady?
No need to be jealous only old ugly grannies find you interesting.

>Wrong anime is merely a medium like any artform
LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I like many anime, but even directors like Oshii themselves say anime sucks. It's mainstream garbage for manchildren mostly. Manga is ten times more an artform than fucking anime.
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>>174444974
>öf öf öf muh manga better than anime
öf öf öf manga is for shitters. Ranobe is only true media for a gentlemen.
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Manga and anime are for underdeveloped autistics. People with more refined taste enjoy visual novels and eroge.
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>wanted to delete CCWI
>can make it to stage 4 now with Type-Z
When LE GENES will kick in and I'll stop making progress?
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Also, is it only me or CCWI sometimes crashes when browsing leaderboards?
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>>174448365
probably you
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Angel's Egg is super, just came here to say that, keep on being shmupg smupg!
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>>174448893
>Angels Egg
Yes, also one of my favorites. I even have a huge original cell of it.
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so kraut i need some advice, i've got a film date with a younger lady and was wondering whats best to really get her in the mood? tweenies on tour or spongebob squarepants?
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>>174449808
Depends on the person. I watched shit like Patlabor and Urotsukidoji at 12. Not every child is as retarded as you were.
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>>174449970
ok gotcha, and how do you make the first move? romantically remove her school bag or straight for the padded minnie mouse bra?
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>>174450167
Grab her the pussy
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>>174450516
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>>174450849
*by the pussy
i mean
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>>174450916
and which part exactly do you grab em by? they don't have hair.
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>>174390560
It's Ikaruga btw.
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>>174387281
wat this
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>>174452758
It's clearly Pasy syriker, says so on the box
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>>174452758
That's clearly FRSL STRIKER
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>>174451214
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>tfw no dreamcast and dc emulators aren't very good
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>>174380214
My problem is not that the laser object is not following the ship movement, it is the trail of the laser object. The trail follows the pre fire animation, but it also follows the movement of the playership. The makes the trail look like crap.

I think I came to the conclusion, that I'd have to use an own mesh for the prefire laser, in the shape of the animation flow, and then simulate an animation by using a particle emitter, instead of using a trail and animation.
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Anyone here ever play philosoma? Is it any good?
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>>174467302
Played it once, but wasn't that good. Great ship design though.
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>>174449808
>spongebob squarepants
It's the highest achievement of the lilim culture. Even greater than CCWI, R-TYPE, and Ikaruga.
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>>174448219
around last boss.
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Battle Traverse is fun, not used to dodging these types of patterns in a hori though
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You had the right idea, a short snooze I took felt great. Now finish your homework!!
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>>174482456
no homework
only shooting gay
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>>174486712
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deathsmiles was the beginning of caves downfall
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>>174487268
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>>174487516
fuck you harry you englander sod
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>>174487268
guwange was, actually
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>>174487268
Deathsmiles is great, it was SDOJ.
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Fun fact: Both Ikaruga and CCWI are completely shit-tier games that only fucking retards play.
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>>174487916
I wouldn't live on the same side of the world as Windia.

>>174488130
Gotta admit even I think that turning Hibachi into a loli was crossing the line. She's a cute loli, but still... Lolibachi in Mahou Otome when
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I really got better at shmups. I can beat my scores now in a single try, when 2 years ago it took me at least 2 hours to reach such score.
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>>174488130
>cave's last game was the beginning of their downfall
:thinking:
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>>174488159
It's getting really lame
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>>174489292
Ikaruga and CCWI are lame yeah, I agree.
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>>174489546
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Perikles difficulty ranking is total bullshit
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>>174492357
Where?
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>>174493326
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59651
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>>174493773
Jesus this makes me appreciate the original list far more
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>>174489292
best instrument
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>>174493773
Seems reasonable to me. Not sure about the easy ones, but the games on top definitely deserve to be there.
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>>174487268
>>174488130
>the beginning of caves downfall
sh-3 hardware was desu, input laggy, abysmal slowdown with troll unfair speed transitions and a quantity over quality approach. They were so preoccupied with getting more projectiles on screen for gimmicky reasons than making refined games, the only exception really is ibara which was well programmed within the hardware limits only suffering extreme slowdown in the rose fight.
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>>174492357
>Perikles difficulty ranking is total bullshit
>more accomplished experienced players list is bullshit
>i know better about games i can't clear

???
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>>174492357
nah it's fine, at least he added several older games missing and fixed complete bullshit scores like Same3, Viewpoint, Twin Eagle and P-47 aces
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Please consider supporting this (the weird one with the parallel timelines):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=894341386
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>>174499409
this is so fucking ugly
i gonna better play saviours
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>>174499409
Game still looks like a turd, but the time zone idea is cool and music is also good, so I still gave a vote.
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>>174499636
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
>>174500043
Thank you too, I am glad you found some positive aspects.
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>>174500232
Also, DKA is right. The game really needs spread shot. Just a straight shot forward is boring.
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>>174499409
>massive sprite with tiny hitbox

god please stop doing this, as a player its fucking horrible.
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>>174499409
why character ship looks like paper bird
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>>174499409
>demo size over 500mb
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best Batrider song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOLme91dh6U&list=PLF3A65D4AC137B41E&index=9
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>>174505830
reminds me of beverly hills cop 2
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>>174499409
Ignore the guy that commented about the sprite/small hotboxes. He is special. I voted for you.
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>>174506391
Batrider generally give me some nostalgic feels
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>>174507758
No he's actually a competant player pointing out a serious flaw in modern design which makes tracking and judgment unnecessarily hard for players, you wouldn't know because you play for 1cc only.
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Zun>Namiki
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>>174508506
I've played for score before and you're retarded.
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>>174508980
wow strong rebuttal, but have you succeeded? It's a stupid design flaw and why crimzon kidlover is also a piece of shit.
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CCWI isn't shit because of the hitbox size in relation to the sprite, it's shit because it was done poorly. In good games the hitbox glows at all times, or at least while in focus mode. In CCWI it's a tiny yellow dot. The position of the options also makes it very awkward to tell where your hitbox is located. None of this would be so bad if the movement speed in the game wasn't totally fucked.
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>>174509114
Now I am confused. Are you not the kraut or are you the kraut making a 180 on his own opinions again?
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>>174509338
agreed.

>>174509347
not the kraut and thought you were. Kraut psyops?
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argh fuck this, shmups too hard, why i push myself to making shitty 1cc
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>>174510363
quit whiny pussy bitch, try harder.
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>>174509338
CCWI is not cave shit, dipshit. It's not about constant retarded micrododging. It is about actual routing, and for this the speed and hitboxes are perfect.
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Oh, there he is.
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>>174509338
>In good games the hitbox glows at all times, or at least while in focus mode

Typical caveshits. If a game isn't exactly like caveshit, it is ostensibly bad.
In your words 99% of shmups are not good then, since most don't have glowing hitboxes or even focus modes.
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condense your posts, faggot.
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>>174513081
cave never had this until mushi though and only did to copy touhou most likely.
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>>174513081
There are tons of good non cave games. CCWI isn't one of them.
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>>174514307
CCWI is one of them.
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>>174514859
No.
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Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>174515580
>ZUN's new game is about finding the one location of a shitty hotel franchise that doesn't suck
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>>174515580
The drawing looks actually kinda cute, but the whole layout is horrible. You can't even read the options text properly.
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>>174515580
ZUN needs to stop
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Thoughts?
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>>174519452
Nigger/5
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>>174519452
>ice fairy
>summer
What?
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>>174515580
Looks like a very amateur flash game, just like all 2hu games. I'd expect to find this on newgrounds in the year 2001.
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>>174507758
I thank you sincerely for checking it out and voting.
I also thank all the people who have checked it out even if they don't find any positive in the game, honest criticism helps us to focus on the areas that need improvement the most!
Have a good day.
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>>174519452
tan loli barefoot
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>>174515580
I am hype.

>No Patchy in sight.
But the future refused to change...
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>>174527750
you are retard
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>>174527750
That's because she never goes outside, no matter what the season is!
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>>174528132
Spread some shmup love, anon. Who knows, you might even find yourself smiling and having a good time!

>>174528231
As much as that stings I cannot deny the facts...
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>>174532276
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>>174524590
Gave you a Yes. Goodluck with your development, anon. Maybe if you make any significant progress/changes you could come back and update us on it!
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>>174539792
I thank you very much.
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>>174507758
He's right. I was playing the game and the hitbox is way too small, doesn't look eye catching, the colour doesn't stand out well and the ship design makes it awkward to track with peripheral vision.
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>>174539946
Stop chilling, and work on your game, lazy bastard.
You don't even have basic shit like muzzle flashs in it, yet you already put this turd on steam.
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>>174540642
Thank you.
Most people haven't had problems with the size of the ship but a respectable amount of players have complained that it is too big, I think we will make it a bit smaller and also the hitbox graphic stand out a bit more, it basically disappears when you activate the laser.
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>>174541863
Thank you for your advice.
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>>174542025
>Most people haven't had problems with the size of the ship but a respectable amount of players have complained that it is too big,
Directly contradictory statement here.
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>>174542647
It's not contradictory, it's just uncertain if most people had problems with it or not, since he most likely didn't talk with everyone about it who played the game.
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>>174542025
Might wanna make high hp enemies flash when damaged too while youre at it, not having any sort of indication feels very off
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>>174542647
Not really, the majority of people didn't complain about the size of the ship. However, a respectable amount of other players did mention that the size was troublesome; these players were not enough in quantity to be considered "the majority" or "most people".
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>>174542858
Yes it is if you speak english, he starts with a clear point that isn't an assumption so how does he know if it's "uncertain" as your dumb self says? and are people and players not the same thing? It's contradictory you 8th grade reading comprehension penis digester.
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>>174542929
The game still lacks a shit ton of must-have details.
It doesn't have hit indications, no on-hit sparkles from a shot, no muzzle flashs, the player shot comes straight out of the hitbox instead of the gun barrel, etc etc

Wish I had this confidence to put a turd like this on steam...
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>>174543247
So how do you differentiate between players and people? It's a failure in your expression but that aside the reason most don't notice is because they lack experience and play poorly to begin with.
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>>174543271
Aparently it is you who can't speak english, chav.
I never said he knows it is uncertain... I said the complete opposite.
The flaw in his post was not a contradiction, it was that he claimed most people didn't have a problem with it, when in reality he most likely can't even know this. He can't talk to everyone who played the demo, so it doesn't make sense to say "majority thinks so and so", you dumb fucking chav.
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>>174543376
Yeah, well muzzle flashes are one thing but having proper hit indicators is vital since this game has indestructible shield enemies iirc. Sloppy.
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>>174543674
top kek you really don't understand english at all, go back to wanking to children in your post 90s basketball pro way, adolf fiddler.
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>>174544312
No need to chimp out, chav. If you have no arguments, just stfu and practice your clown tricks.
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>>174544521
You can't even identify an argument so it's futile you cunting meat skull, lanky streak of faggot piss you don't get protein from sniffing nappy skidmarks you know boney felcher pedo cunt.
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>>174544521
btfo desu

>>174544937
chav goes directly into name calling chimp out mode, sad bants
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>>174545007
>Kraut goes for the samefag ip change strats thinking it's not obvious.

So do piggy bank slots turn you on to or?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzAGkLOJ-No
Finally a cure for the shitposting
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>>174545451
>killing the good guys
Good goy!
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>>174545615
>good guys
>directly working against the interests of my people
good riddance
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>>174546325
found the kike.
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how long do you have to study garegga before you can start to play it? the game's legendary complexity is scaring me
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>>174546960
Never, you just learn about it from a third party and then praise it as the best shmup ever made like everyone else
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>>174546960
Well it takes 10000 hours to become a master of something, and due to Battle Gareggas complexity you need to be a master before you can attempt to play it.
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>>174519452
>that left foot
Really couldn't correct that before shipping, huh...
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>max plagiarized my shitpost and put it on the farm
watch your back lil nigga
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tfw spent 60 hours in garage, got stage 7 only one time
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>>174546960
>how long do you have to study garegga before you can start to play it?
At least until fatherhood.
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>>174546960
I guess it depends on how experienced you are in the genre, 0 experience probably like 50-100 hours to 1cc, if experienced then like 20-30?
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>>174554234
Oh and if you want to score probably over 100 hours
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>>174554358
>probably over 100 hours
you missed a digit there
you'll only manage some entry level scores after approx 500 hours. the real game begins at 1000.
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>>174554567
I'd say you can get like 75-80% WR with 500 hours, if that's entry level then yes.
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>>174556295
anything below 95% WR is pure dog shit
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>>174559556
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Finally remembered to post my score on the google spreadsheet. Hopefully I'll be able to work on another 1CC soon.
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Enter the gungeon is more difficult than touhou, there I said it.
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>>174562907
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>>174563015
it is tho, in touhou you literally just have to stare at your character while holding fire

Gungeon you're looking everywhere, dodging, using blanks, managing items and switching weapons constantly deciding which weapon is best for which enemy etc.
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>>174563161
Except that Touhou is still a shmup, no matter how shitty. Gungeon is another one of those not-shmup rougelites that everyone calls a "bullet hell" anyway because they're retards.
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>>174562907
wrong
touhou is harder xdddD
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>>174563161
post youre scores or at least clears
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>>174562907
it's a better game too tbqh
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>>174567061
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>>174556692
post your scores
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I was playing around with a Jtagged 360 S I just got off ebay, and after surveying the options menu of the Guwange port, I ended up playing the game in "ghetto tate". And it somehow was a great experience, these (and actually all) games are really meant to be seen on a big screen. It actually wasnt even a big screen, a pathetic 32 incher, but still leagues above playing verts cramped on a widescreen 24 inch monitor. I even felt like I played a bit better because of it, surely because the increased size of the tiny sprites, otherwise Arrange blue happens to be a very easy mode.

The Xbox 360 arrange is arguably the way the game was supposed to be made, though the implementation is a bit lacking. The 360's controller ridiculous D-Pad doesnt help either. Since the boner has a better controller and BC for Guwange, I guess there exists one more reason for dedicated fans of Japanese shooting games to get that console one day (the other two reasons are Raiden V and Crimson Dragon).

In other news, Hard Corps Uprising doesnt seem to have Japanese VA, which is terrible and completely ruins the female MC for me (apparently there isnt one woman in America that can pull voicing an anime character off).
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watched STD weekly episode on Crimzon Clover and it seems like a great game. the best thing is that it's far less punishing than WI, if only becouse you are rewarded for playing the game properly with loads of extends, while in CCWI all you get for your effort is faster bullets, more hp for bosses and bullshit RNG. i know, i know it's an arcade game made for the best of the best japs, but how hard it would've been to add a doujin-like difficulty mode with more extends and longer invincibility after break? instead we got this hilariously easy novice mode which completely fails to prepare new players for challenges ahead. it's really weird that some anons recommend CCWI to beginners, as if staying at the bottom with type Z is a fun way to play a score-centric game for 100 hours(how much time beginner needs to kusoclear).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZZNgGMsOlA
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>>174575272
Every noob I know cleared novice and dropped the game, original really is too intimidating for most new players.
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>>174575272
>>174575773
But muh hardcore cave gamer cred!!!
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>>174575272
TAC is a smart man. Dojins are for baby bitch niggas, so he made his game so easy that even a woman could beat it. When he got the chance to release it in the arcade, he turned that shit up to please players of his own ilk.
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>>174577374
i've never said it's a bad thing, mr hardcore stg scorer. but they should've added doujin difficulty in pc port if they bothered to add novice. how much TAC was involved anyway, original was pretty much developed be Yotsubane alone isn't it?
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>>174577812
or is tac yotsubane? that's confusing.
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>>174577812
>how much TAC was involved anyway, original was pretty much developed be Yotsubane alone isn't it?
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>>174577969
see >>174577926
i've already googled who youtsubane is, they all looks the same to me though.
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Rate my normal course clear!
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>>174579451
Does normal course even count for a 1cc in this game?
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>>174579451
buttrider/10
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>>174579451
shit
but not as shit as ccwi and ikaruga
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It's Deathsmiles MBL week on HEY now
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv296108922
https://freshlive.tv/taito_hey/107194
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The reason why japan is so good at stg is because they were always good picture scroll artists.
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>>174578101
That's clover tac, same guy.
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besides twinkle star sprites what is the most fun stg to play while drunk?
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>>174579451
6 million less than my normal clear, plebian germong go sniff a nappy.
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>>174587712
How about dodge the bus? hope your hitbox is small enough, fucking degenerate.
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>>174587712
Giga Wing with a friend so you can bitch at each other for messing up the reflection timing
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>>174587997
>#TRIGGERED
chill the fuck out fascist boy
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>>174588358
>i have no idea what fascism actually is but il say it with a normie hashtag anyway!

Degenerado.
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>>174588582
>accuses others of not knowing what facism is while displaying a lack of knowledge of what facism is.
rly ignited my almonds there.
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>>174588726
Go on then enlighten me and whilst you're at it explain how a critical opinion on what i deem degenerate behavior without physical enforcement qualifies within the politics of fascism? Those American unis really churn out morons huh?
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>>174588853
>Those American unis really churn out morons huh?
if that's where you're from, then it must be the case.

>a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.
lifted it straight out of the dictionary for ya
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>>174589054
>>174589054
>lifted it straight out of the dictionary for ya
As i suspected you don't have a clue and if you did why did you have to go check the dictionary? again at which point did i attempt to limit your liberty as an individual and which point does that correlate with a personal opinion? when did person opinions on exhibitionist alcoholism as a social acceptance currency qualify as "extreme far right views"?
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>>174589054
Dictatorial would of been "stop drinking or else" where as i say your behavior imo is degenerate BUT you are free to do it and i actually encourage you to do it more!! in the hopes of bringing about an early death.
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>>174587657
yeah figured that.
i tried doujn and it's sadly a wank, i'd say it even gives you way too much extends, all the tension is gone until very late game. it also has a lot of slowdown on my pc even on minimal settings. the type 1 plays even slower and visibility is pretty bad. then i tried ccwi and it's such a blast to play for 1 credit, maybe you all niggas shuld stop restarting for hours becouse i doubt that's what yellow niggas do in arcades, play it like an arcade game it is. dog bless tac.
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>>174589371
>As i suspected you don't have a clue and if you did why did you have to go check the dictionary?
because your dumb ass needed a definition

>when did person opinions on exhibitionist alcoholism as a social acceptance currency qualify as "extreme far right views"?
calling someone a degenerate and telling them to dodge a bus qualifies as pretty fucking extreme. you're probably from one of the many ultra conservative countries that exhibit such behavior: afghanistan, saudi, yemen, libya, etc.

>Dictatorial would of been "stop drinking or else"
dodge a bus is very "or else"

>in the hopes of bringing about an early death.
yeah, and you wonder why you got called triggered and a fascist lmao
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>>174589764
>because your dumb ass needed a definition
I know the definition, you still don't.

>>174589764
>calling someone a degenerate and telling them to dodge a bus qualifies as pretty fucking extreme. you're probably from one of the many ultra conservative countries that exhibit such behavior: afghanistan, saudi, yemen, libya, etc.
Interesting that you won't name the politics of these countries... islam (it#'s a political system and religious before you start) .

>>174589764
>dodge a bus is very "or else"
Oh dear i have to respond with further questions! Isn't it surely a suggestion? how do you propose i implement this request in reality?

>>174589764
>yeah, and you wonder why you got called triggered and a fascist lmao
But it comes down to personal responsibility and not enforcement. I suggested you drink as much as possible post defending your right to do so, how does my desires for a particular outcome correlate with physical enforcement, i can't/won't make you so??? You really must be drunk to own such a sophomoric understand.
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>>174590007
>I know the definition, you still don't.
if you knew it why did you need it to spell it out for you? weird behavior dude.

>Interesting that you won't name the politics of these countries... islam (it#'s a political system and religious before you start) .
why should i know or care about the finite details of your ultra conservative religious politics?

>Isn't it surely a suggestion? how do you propose i implement this request in reality?
you're so triggered by the idea of someone drinking and playing a video game that you felt the need to call them a degenerate and wish them an early death. do you spent you free time stoning people that have sex outside of marriage?

>I suggested you drink as much as possible post defending your right to do so, how does my desires for a particular outcome correlate with physical enforcement
your desire reveals the extremity of your beliefs
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TOO GREEN
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>>174590973
>if you knew it why did you need it to spell it out for you?
You didn't? you gave a base dictionary definition because you don't actually know and still don't.

>>174590973
>why should i know or care about the finite details of your ultra conservative religious politics?
How can one argue a point if he doesn't know the specifics?

>>174590973
>you're so triggered by the idea of someone drinking and playing a video game
Am i? No i'm "triggered" by individuals whom parade what should be individual private behavior in a public exhibitionist fashion as a desperate plea for social relevance, nobody cares what you do just keep it to your self as it is of no interest to others.

>>174590973
>you felt the need to call them a degenerate
I consider imo that your behavior is indeed degenerate are you saying i'm not free to have that view? i hope you're not a hypocritical liberal bigot?

>>174590973
>wish them an early death
And i am free to do so, I did this through encouraging you to partake further in the liberty you already profess to enjoy, it's quite a dilemma isn't it?

>>174590973
>your desire reveals the extremity of your beliefs
Extreme by what standard? where is the line of normality and how is it defined? demographic opinion trends? well i guess that makes nazis normal in 1940s germany with everything to the left "extreme" then? You really aren't bright enough for this which is why im enjoying trolling you so hard this morning. Alcohol kills brain cells in case it wasn't painfully obvious already.
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is Raiden III worth? I want to play a modern shooter for a change again. Not these oldschool 16 bit pixelshit games on mame.
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>>174591428
>you gave a base dictionary definition because you don't actually know and still don't.
>i was the one that used the word, correctly mind you
>you were confused because you didn't know what it meant
>i gave you a perfect dictionary definition to avoid any further cunfusion
>you insist i don't know what it means, even though i was the one to use it originally
yeah, is this some long con meme of yours?

>How can one argue a point if he doesn't know the specifics?
because the details of your brand of religious conservatism are completely irrelevant to whether or not i think your statement was fascist in nature

>Am i?
evidently considering you've been on a tirade for being called a fascist several hours ago

>are you saying i'm not free to have that view?
of course, you're as free to see it as degenerate behavior as i am free to call you a facist

>And i am free to do so, I did this through encouraging you to partake further in the liberty you already profess to enjoy, it's quite a dilemma isn't it?
no, there really is no dilemma at all. you seem to be unfamiliar with drinking in moderation. it's strange but given your ultra religious background not unusual. believe it or not, drinking a glass of wine doesn't turn everyone into a raving pub drunkard.

>Extreme by what standard?
by my own, and anyone else that thinks it's a little absurd to wish death upon someone for something so minor. considering the number of countries where drinking is legal vs. the number where it is banned on conservative grounds we could even go as far as to say the majority of countries on the planet.

>you really aren't bright enough for this which is why im enjoying trolling you so hard this morning.
are you sure you're pretending to be retarded?
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>>174592548
HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS IN PUBLIC!!! IT SHOULD BE PRIVATE BEHAVIOUR DEGENRATE CUNT REEEEE!!!!!
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I use my keyboard as butt plug.
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>tfw no 3d games of strikers
Would have been nice.
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>>174592551
IV much better
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>pea brain:3d
>normal brain:2d
>enlightened brain:pre-rendered
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Under Defeat steam port when?
Would love to play this game, but instead we got silly mecha action.
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>>174594515
I want border down but Strania sold poorly so probably never
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>>174594725
what is wrong with steam, why people on xbox360 buy japanese games, but steamfags don't?
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>>174595535
PC gaming is mostly for people who like ego shooters and such stuff. Arcade games have bad chances there.
Plus most people who play shmups are still japanese and they don't play pc much anyway.
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>>174595676
i thought japs play pc becouse they are making so much poojins.
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>>174596109
japs mostly have a different mindset for games compared to westerners
you also can see this in the games they make
they are much more focused on tight gameplay, rather than cinematic bullshit

pc gaming has always been a western thing
japs have always been leaders in consoles
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early toaplan games is just memoshit
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>>174575272
>>174575773
Novice is a good on it's own, some doujins don't seem to have easy difficulty at all
But I agree, huge gap between Arcade and Novice probably turns new players off
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>>174596340
what i'm saying is if people are making all those high quality poojins, someone must be playing them, 2hu is so big yet it's pc only for example. and japanese computers like pc88 are pretty legendary. so i don't really buy this japan is console only territory, if anything it's usa.
also, i tried strania and it's great and runs really great on a toaster, will buy on sale.
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Japan is just incredibly technologically retarded, japs are probably just not aware yet of digital distribution through Steam on PC
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touhou 16 steam release confirmed
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>>174597270
i've heard they still buy a lot of music on cd's, which doesn't make sense, becouse their apartments are tiny. rly makes u think why arcades are still somewhat alive there.
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>>174597102
>someone must be playing them
of course there are some, but not many compared to consoles

most people who buy shmups on steam are westerners, and shmups have always been 90% japanese audience

>>174597270
actually not at all, they just dislike digital distribution more than anyone
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>>174597880
>which doesn't make sense
of course it does
in japan you actually can buy a shitton of cool nerd stuff
and having it physically is always better than just digitally
it's also a nice hobby to go out and buy some cool shit in the city
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>>174598029
that why garegga failed
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>>174597879
wild guns reloaded will actually be on steam
>>174598168
i thought they are hikkis, who the fuck wants to stay in line for comiket or some shit? i think they just dislike new things.
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>>174598283
>i think they just dislike new things
that's also a factor yes
japan is a very traditional country
however, they also always have been extreme about the amount of nerd stuff you can buy
you buy there games, manga, anime, artbooks, photobooks, figures, plamo, etc
they are just a very nerdy country and you can buy this everywhere
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>>174598168
also
>and having it physically is always better than just digitally
physical shit is not popular everywhere else outside japan and 4th world for good reasons. people just don't need this hassle with discs, vhs tapes or whatever when they want to enjoy a piece of media, even though you can still go out and get a music cd nobody does it except for hipsters.
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>>174598461
tfw too poor to buying shit
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>>174598461
>japan is a very traditional country
hipsters
>>174598558
it would be just laying around
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>>174598504
>nobody does it except for hipsters
has nothing to do with being hipster
you are probably just underage and dont knwo how it is to have a real collection
its just nice feeling to have nice books sitting in your shelve
it's much nicer than having a shitty pdf of them on your pc

i guess you just dont really love things like books, or video games, but when you really like these things, then you also would prefer much more having them physically
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>>174598738
>i guess you just dont really love things
Do you know what I like more than materialistic things? Knowledge

On a serious note, it's not about physical vs digital. Every major western game gets a physical release. If you want it, you can get it. There are even collectors editions for those who really want those.

But you don't need to own a physical copy of every thing you ever come in contact with. I want to have a physical copy of a game I like, but I don't want to have a physical copy of every game I play. Worst case scenario is failing to meet actual demand ends up promoting piracy. This is where it's literal retardation. Everyone else gets it, but japan doesn't.
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>>174598738
you sound like a dad from farm. i'm 23 and i got rid of all my videogame mags, pc games and other crap becouse it's nothing but clutter.
japanese love to hoard, i've heard some woman has 30000 copies of the same little animal figure.
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>>174599351
>Do you know what I like more than materialistic things? Knowledge
So just because you collect stuff means you don't like knowledge or what? LMAO

>Every major western game gets a physical release
Yes, and what does this have to do with? I don't care about AAA western games.

>you don't need to own a physical copy of every thing you ever come in contact with
Of course not, but it's still always better to have it physically, especially when you really like the game.

>Worst case scenario is failing to meet actual demand ends up promoting piracy
As if pc gamers care about piracy. The people on steam and whatever are the ones primarily pirating, even though they have it all on their fingertips.
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>>174599374
>it's nothing but clutter
depends on what you buy
you probably only buy crap, so yea, it's a waste of space for you
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>>174599951
you can't suck at a poster. too bad the same can't be said for games that dads buy.
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>>174600185
as if age has anything to with ability in a shmup
what you are talking about are collectors who collect for the sake of collecting without actually playing the games
that's something completely different than just prefering physical copies
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>174599815
You're literally shitposting at this point, because you're ignoring the point and instead cutting out half-sentences.

Oh, wait, I forgot, this is a typical /shmupg/ argument. This shit has been killing the thread for a while already.
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>>174600528
You are the one ignoring here. I actually made a detailed reply to your post, even though it was absolutely not worth replying to your gibberish.

What shmupg is killing are retards like you who just do nothing but attacking others for the dumbest reasons.
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>>174600528
i think it's kraut.
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>>174598738
My interest is the content not how it's presented, low i.q plebian.
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>>174603449
So if you had the choice between a digital copy of your favorite painting and the original painted by the artist himself on canvas, you would just take the digital copy or what?

You are the most retarded motherfucker I have seen in a while and any normal person would agree.
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>>174592585
I'm agnostic atheist, what now? You only think in identity politics because you aren't a very bright person. You also keep missing the bit where i take no umbridge with you drinking and state a right to liberty but take issue with the pathetic advertising of your behaviour in a desperate bid to seem cool and sociable to internet peers when in actuality no one cares in the slightest.

>>174592585
>because the details of your brand of religious conservatism are completely irrelevant
Jesus you are terrible at debates, i have said NOTHING about my brand of belief that is entirely an assumption you have made and enforced to make your dipshit argument semi work. You compared my view specifically to the middle east, i pointed out the system which governs though lands, you know nothing about it therefore have no place using it with an argument unless like i said you know the specifics. I'm a classical liberal btw.

>>174592585
>of course, you're as free to see it as degenerate behavior as i am free to call you a facist
The difference of course being that the first has grounds if seen from a directly christian perspective whilst yours is a complete falsity due to your lack of understanding of facism as a political system implemented through force vs the personal opinion of someone who said many times he defends your liberty to do as he pleases. You are certainly more triggered than I, maybe it was foolish of me to suggest drinking oneself to death to someone whom clearly suffers emotional instability at least if you do it will be through self determination thanks to liberty and personal responsibility.


>>174594515
>Under Defeat steam port when?
Would be nice and a great game for normies imo. If you want it just buy a dcast for like 10 bucks.

>>174600682
>What shmupg is killing are retards
Wtf? #STOPSHMUPGKILLINGRETARDS
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>>174604172
>I'm agnostic atheist
さすがwwwww
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>>174603789
>So if you had the choice between a digital copy of your favorite painting and the original painted by the artist himself on canvas
Completely perverted version of events but actually yes because my appreciation is the joy the image brings and the concern of it's value as a physical piece. I'm sorry that you can't enjoy great art without arbitrary standards.>>174603789
>You are the most retarded motherfucker I have seen in a while and any normal person would agree.
Well yes of course because as you unwittingly imply you are nothing more than a normie and normal people think on a lower more simplistic plane, i wouldn't expect a normie to ever know what im talking about.
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>>174604369
>I'm sorry that you can't enjoy great art without arbitrary standards
Where the fuck I ever said I can't enjoy things otherwise?

Just fuck off. It makes no sense arguing with retards like you.

Prefering physical copies of things you really like is just natural.
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>>174604884
>Prefering physical copies of things you really like is just natural.
Says the marketing gurus during your upbringing who cleverly exploit your inheritant primitive desire to hunt and gather and replaced it with petite materialism and an endless want for useless objects that nobody needs. You have fallen beyond the convenience of medium and into the murky depths of attaching products to your sense of "individuality" a strategy btw which was devised by the late great Edward bernays, a relative of freud and talented psychologist in his own right taught the industry how to play minds like yours dance to the tune. Funny how jews always manage to play your people like a fiddle isn't it?
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>>174605179
>Team Shanghai Alice
Better than G.Rev, Irem, Raizing, Toaplan, etc tec

LMFAO, the guy is completely fucking retarded
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>>174605646
>Better than G.Rev, Irem, Raizing, Toaplan, etc tec
>LMFAO, the guy is completely fucking retarded

Not exactly he's just a subjective thinker who can't think beyond it, a great 1 cc player that he may be he's clearly to self indulgent to actually think beyond himself as proven in his and others inability to point out basic glaring flaws in blue revolver test state... he was to busy self promoting with a good score to actually think about the game and it's functions in relation to all player types. He also has a face like a chink faceplanted a potato.
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>>174605267
I barely buy games, you fucking asshole. I don't have 1000 games on steam, I have barely 15.
I also don't own any fucking console anymore, in contrary to you.

However, I am not fucking retarded, and can still see why people prefer physical copies.
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>>174605828
>He also has a face like a chink faceplanted a potato
proof
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>>174605936
>I barely buy games
welfare only goes so far.

>>174605936
>you fucking asshole.
beats fucking children.

>>174605936
>I also don't own any fucking console anymore, in contrary to you.
My n64 was donated, my dcasts cost me 10 quid and i sold the rest aside from saturn which ive had since new as birthday present. I use none however now.

>>174605936
>However, I am not fucking retarded, and can still see why people prefer physical copies.
yes you are and you can but only from the blindside propagated perspective which came from those i explained previously. Isn't this when you change ip and samefag again usually? whilst strumming one out to a child.

>>174606160
>proof
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>>174605828
>Not exactly he's just a subjective thinker
Has nothing to do with being a subjective thinker, asshole, it has to do with being retarded.

It's like prefering to eat shit over a good meal, and saying "hurr I'm just a subjective thinker".
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>>174606354
Is this where you start arguing for objective standards in video and claim on your life that your subjectively fav game is actually objectively the best ever because you say so and everyone else is retarded? I think we've read this script before.
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>>174606354
>food analogies
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>>174606474
>Is this where you start arguing for objective standards in video
Are you trying to say that touhou is not objectively worse than the games g.rev for example made?
To each their own, but there is not subjectivity in everything.
It's like playing a fucking pong clone and saying it is better. You can't defend everything with subjectivity.

There are rules in everything. Wether it is games, music, art or whatever. If you draw nothing but a simple stick figure, you also can't try to tell me that this is better than a painting by Davinci. It objectively isn't, no matter how much you yell "SUBJECTIVITY!!!".
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>>174607047
good heavens you are beyond saving.
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>>174604172
>what now?
what now? now I'm absolutely sure my initial post was correct.

>Jesus you are terrible at debates
there literally is no debate except some sort of bizarre one you've created in your mind. you didn't seem to know what the word "fascist" meant or why you were called one so an explanation was provided because you literally asked for one. i said you're "probably from one of the many ultra conservative countries that exhibit such behavior" take note of the word "probably" in this context it leaves for the possibility that you're not. rather than say "no i'm not" you decided to go on some sort of outlandish and completely irrelevant fantasy identity politics rant. as you stated, i "compared your view specifically to the middle east" the level of detail you expressed your view at the time was comparable to the ultra conservative middle eastern countries. i consider this to be an "extreme far right view" i.e. fascist. whether you or anyone else agrees that the middle east is ultra conservative is unrelated to my own views, the only views that matter as I was the person calling you a fascist.

>due to your lack of understanding of facism
no, you keep insisting through your victim complex that you were called a fascist in the political party sense. as stated earlier, i provided a dictionary definition to cast light on the context of the usage of the term specifically to avoid this confusion. because you're a fucking loon you keep on insisting i was using another definition of the word instead of the actual usage that was provided in an effort to continue your """""""debate"""""""

since you seem to need it spelled out for you: you expressed views I consider to be far right. this is why you were called a fascist.

do you enter in hour long "debates" about the definition of the words "retard", "autist" or "idiot" every time someone calls you one on the internet? my guess is no, because they don't trigger you like the word "fascist" do they fascist boy?
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>>174605828
>as proven in his and others inability to point out basic glaring flaws in blue revolver test state...
The guy thinks touhou is one of the best shmups ever. Of course he can't point out basic flaws, because he is just as retarded as you and can't think logically.

>a great 1 cc player that he may be
What does this have to do with being retarded or not?
Again, you are acting like your score would in any way represent your intelligence, while at the same time screaming at anyone else who acts the same. You are fucking pathetic.

The scores Jaimers have are nothing special. It's just simple grinding and copying replays which any fucking retard can do.
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>>174604309
>ひらがな
*tips boshi*
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>>174608516
Pretty sure Eaglet would beat the shit out of you.
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>>174607909
>I'm absolutely sure my initial post was correct.
I know you are and that's what scares me and the drivel that follows is wrong to so i see no point in continuing.

>>174609131
>Pretty sure Eaglet would beat the shit out of you.
Highly likely being ex military, nice to see a non cuck actual man amongst the ranks of shumpdom, it'll take more than him to save sweden though.
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>>174432861
>>174434149
I know you're being ironic but take off the fedora.
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>>174587712
Drunksmiles
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>>174609472
>just because you have muscles means you can't be a cuck
Your thinking is so simple and superficial i'm almost jealous.
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>>174612020
not even that, but mainly because he is "ex military" note "ex military" meaning "actual man" in his warped sense of reality. the usage of his favorite meme word "cuck" combined with "ex military" meaning "real man" betrays his extremely low intelligence.
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>>174612020
>>174612217
Nothing to do with muscles or anything else, unlike you to bedroom warriors who have never existed through a moments adversity I know what military service entails something you 2 weak pathetic morons could never survive. You can't even master the fucking discipline to eat well and not have repulsive structures, most of you are pathetic do nothing pussies hiding behind vidya hedonism to validate a limited life of insecurity and excuses.
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>>174612768
>says the guy shitposting on 4chan 24/7 all day every day
You have issues. You constantly talk bad about people, while actually doing exactly the same. Same with vidya. Constantly act like it is a degenrate hobby, yet you spend a shitton of time playing vidya.

>can't even master the fucking discipline to eat well
Says the fat fuck attention whoring on his bmx.
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Bullet Soul is really bad?
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>>174613124
>yet you spend a shitton of time playing vidya.
3hrs a day max usually 2.

>>174613124
>Says the fat fuck attention whoring on his bmx.
Implying training for 3hrs everyday and 6 on weekends doesn't require discipline beyond anything you know, that was also 5 years ago and a point when i was working nights and had a lesser understanding of food, i'm 40 lbs lighter today.
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>>174613287
>3hrs a day max usually 2
That's a lot of time for thinking so bad of playing vidya. Double this time and it's almost as if it's your job.

>that was also 5 years ago
That's not an excuse, fatty. I would never let myself go so much to become that fat.
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>>174612768
>unlike you to bedroom warriors who have never existed through a moments adversity I know what military service entails something you 2 weak pathetic morons could never survive. You can't even master the fucking discipline to eat well and not have repulsive structures, most of you are pathetic do nothing pussies hiding behind vidya hedonism to validate a limited life of insecurity and excuses.
pretty strange conclusion to jump to there, but as you've displayed time and time again your logical abilities are sorely lacking. resorting to nonsensical attempts at personal attacks seems to be your go to for "epic bantz" so it isn't a surprise that it would surface yet again. pathetic.
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>>174613690
>That's not an excuse, fatty. I would never let myself go so much to become that fat.
if you actually checked the other vids you'd notice it was a brief floating period, i was lean as fuck coming home from spain then gained then sorted it again, you would also never be able to do something so physical for such a long time of course you don't crave energy whilst sitting on the pc all day thus why you are slim but WEAK.
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>>174613806
the burden is on you to prove my claim wrong, so go on then? prove you've ever done anything like military service or hard physical work.
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>>174613832
>it was j-just a brief period i s-swear!!!
Sure thing, fatty

>you don't crave energy whilst sitting on the pc all day
Sounds to me like you are talking about yourself again.
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>>174614325
well i'm 40lbs lighter today so it provably was lmao idiot.

>>174614325
>Sounds to me like you are talking about yourself again.
Oh really? so prove it then like i said prove you aren't the weak built beta bitch i believe you to be... waiting.
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>>174613947
i've done plenty, almost certainly more than you, and it sure as hell wasn't riding a bicycle lmao. why on earth would i ever provide any proof though? and on an anonymous site no less? just to satisfy some retard on the internet? no thanks. i'm going to go ahead and claim you're retarded. i sure as hell haven't seen any proof otherwise, i'll only believe it once you've visited at least five (5) medical specialists and return with documentation proving it. i'll be waiting.
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>>174614513
>well i'm 40lbs lighter today so it provably was
Even if you are lighter today doesn't mean it was just a brief period LOL

>prove you aren't the weak built beta
How about you proof that you aren't weak? I don't make much sport, but I also don't have to. I am not a fucking wannabe chad, like you.

However, I still could easily beat the shit out of you, because I have good genes. In contrary to you little manlet. You perhaps have more endurance from your attention whoring, but I am athletic by nature.
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>>174614890
>i've done plenty, almost certainly more than you
top kek stopped reading.

>>174615114
>How about you proof that you aren't weak?
Go do exactly what i did on a bike and you will find out soon enough.

>>174615114
>I don't make much sport
We know, you don't make good english either apparently.

>>174615114
>but I am athletic by nature.
LMFAO again as i have proved you self delude yourself with not an once of evidence or experience.

>>174615114
>However, I still could easily beat the shit out of you, because I have good genes.
Comedy gold, you don't have the aggression or hatred to even leave your cock red after a fierce strum and i doubt VERY strongly you even know how to fight either, bitch minded hyper queer. You sit in the park and make dandelion chains listening to the mlp theme little BITCH.
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>>174605179
the most offensive thing about this list is psikyo being #2 when all they've done is prove how incompetent and uncreative they are by copy+pasting the same shitty awful memotrash games over and over until they finally went out of business

toho is at least fun to play for 1ccs. the scoring is laughably shit of course
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>>174616963
>cee criticizing other people's grasp of english
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>>174616963
>top kek stopped reading.
k, just let me know when you can prove you're not an actual retard. then we can start to take you seriously.
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>>174617117
despite the fact that he has shown time and time again that he has a poor grasp of english, it remains one of his classic go to """""""epic bantz™""""""" along with "liberal" "cuck" "degenerate" and "ur fat lmao"
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>>174613286
its ok, id recommend it to newer players than more experienced ones.

ost is pretty good, found the game pretty easy
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holy shit guys, i just wanted a fun stg to play last night while drinking. i didn't want to start you faggots up so bad. god damn.
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>>174616963
>Go do exactly what i did on a bike
I couldn't that on a bike. Because I'm not a manlet like you. I'm way too tall for silly clown tricks like this.

>We know, you don't make good english either apparently
Still better than your german, and most likely any other language too.

>LMFAO again as i have proved you self delude yourself
I don't self delude myself at all. It's also not like I think I am somewhat better for being more athletic than others by nature. The fact that you find this so unbelievable and praise athletic people so much only proves that you must have shit genes. I just have athletic by nature. Nothing special. Most people have bad athletic genes, others have better genes, same with intelligence, or beauty.

>with not an once of evidence or experience.
I don't have to proof anything here. I am not a little attention whoring bitch like you, who has to smooth over his severe insecurities.
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>>174617968
No worries, this would've started with or without your post. It always does.
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/shmupg/ - fit and high quality greentexting.
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>tfw head into shmupg, execute plan of shit posting and causing arguments for own amusement
>tfw works every time and i'll do it again next week.

You gotta admit lads it is a laugh.
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>>174618189
>naturally athletic
>tall
>accuses others of insecurity
>wanks to children
????
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>>174622872
>I'm just pretending to be retarded I swear
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>>174622872
>He's going with the "I was merely pretending to be retarded" defense, John. It's a bold move. Let's see how this works out.
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>>174622872
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>>174622872
>You guys, I'm only pretending to be retarded!
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>already 4 (You)s just for that
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>>174625427
>>already 4 (You)s just for that
week in week out, play em like a fiddle.
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>>174598504
That's because most people aren't enthusiasts about anything at all and don't value proper quality such as CDs with obviously lossless quality, and artwork and liner notes. Hell, most people don't value music or anything they consume at all and aren't even willing to pay for it to sustain it's continuation by their respective artists and makers.

Not gonna buy a blu-ray or CD, it's gotta be Netflix or Spotify or some dumb shit like that. (Although Netflix does offer proper quality I think)
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>>174625179
>>174623889
>>174624557
top kek you retards just proved you are literally off an assembly line right down to the language use, sad!
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>>174626153
true
people who don't want to own physical media have no passion for their hobby
it's as simple as that desu
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>acts retarded
>people call him a retard
>hah I got you guys!
>it turns out he was actually a retard all along
>now everyone knows he's retarded
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People that use MAME have no passion for their hobby. It's as simple as that desu.
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>>174627532
agreed
especially since nothing done on mame counts. the chinks agreed, don't bother them about it.
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>>174626326
That's not exactly what I said. You don't need to own something physically to be a fan of it, sure, but the suggestion that people who don't want to bother with physical media such as CDs are somehow enlightened as compared to the Japanese and "hipsters" who still buy them is ridiculous. It's not some sort of outdated format, because it hasn't yet been surpassed by anything. Digital distribution is a complete joke when most music is only available in MP3.
It's not really a hassle either to keep your CDs/games/etc. properly sorted. Unless you're a complete hoarder, it should be possible.

I do believe though that to be a fan and truly passionate about something you have to invest something (aside from your time) into it in some form if at all reasonably possible and viable. If you're not buying the 2014 album that you've listened to 50 times, or the game you've pirated and enjoyed for 50 hours, you're just a huge faggot imo.

But of course in the example of stuff like MAME it's not really reasonable to expect the average person to buy arcade PCBs let alone cabinets just to have the games legit. Those are never readily available or viable for one person to just acquire.


In conclusion, it's not really about physical vs. digital, but about the principle of paying for shit that you enjoy and giving back!
How can you call yourself an enthusiast if you're not willing to do that?

A bit of a rambling post, but I've come too far to let it go!
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>>174629550
>I do believe though that to be a fan and truly passionate about something you have to invest something (aside from your time) into it in some form if at all reasonably possible and viable. If you're not buying the 2014 album that you've listened to 50 times, or the game you've pirated and enjoyed for 50 hours, you're just a huge faggot imo.
>muh ethics should be adhered to by everyone

If you think you have any claim over the passion of another based on something as arbitrary as physical ownership then you're the huge faggot and definitely brainwashed by the marketing world. Why don't you seperate enthusiast for physical ownership vs enthusiast for material possession? You're entitled to your beliefs and standards but projecting them onto others is a joke and fortunately no one cares what you think anyway, twat.
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>>174630080
>fortunately no one cares what you think anyway, twat.
nah, i care. eat shit.
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>>174630080
I said though that it's not necessarily about physical ownership, it's just about ownership, I thought I made that clear towards the end of my post.
I buy the things that I like to support the people behind it. I will admit I do enjoy owning things physically because again, CDs offer lossless audio, come with artwork and liner notes, and especially when you listen to more obscure music you're probably not gonna get these things even if you were to find a download.

But I do prefer physical, yes. Hardly has to do with brainwashing by marketers, after all physical media isn't really marketable because we live in the digital, smart and hip age where everything is available on-demand. Netflix, Spotify, etc., that's marketable.
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>>174630080
>he says as he loads up cheatmame and starts creating savestates for every button on his keyboard
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>>174631230
>But I do prefer physical, yes. Hardly has to do with brainwashing by marketers, after all physical media isn't really marketable because we live in the digital, smart and hip age where everything is available on-demand. Netflix, Spotify, etc., that's marketable.
Sure not so much now but like i said it's because you are a relic of a by gone era, that's not a fault or criticism just a fact of it where as i personally don't care for buying stuff i don't need or physical things.

>>174631337
I use mame but very rarely savestates.

>>174630484
Cheerleader or personal dick sucker?
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>>174632198
>i personally don't care for buying stuff i don't need or physical things
of course not, because you are a passionless faggot, and don't have any money anyway
you just do things because you have nothing better to do
that's also why you play vidya all day everyday, yet say it is retarded to play vidya
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seriously though how long do you have to study garegga

i hear this game is as hardcore as it gets
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>>174632875
no i actually have real passions and none revolve around hoarding useless physical stuff and as you masturbate to child porn you don't qualify for opinions on others.
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>>174633082
>i actually have real passions
shitposting on the internet and acting like a clown are not passions they are signs of retardation
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>>174633368
Oh thanks for letting me know, so what is wanking to pre pubescent kids then? a passion or?
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>>174633497
>what is wanking to pre pubescent kids then? a passion or?
Finding inspiration for my hobby faggot
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>>174633828
>Finding inspiration for my hobby
top kek you are mentally ill.
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>>174632198
But there are viable reasons to buy physical (CDs). For me the physicality of it and the additional stuff that comes with it + the ability to back it up digitally and have it available whenever I want is added value, though for you and many others it might not be. That's fair enough of course. I don't feel it's fair to say it's obsolete though.

With games it's a bit harder to say. Still prefer physical if it's pre-HD for some reason. The incentive there for me is mostly to have a physical copy so I can back it up hopefully forever digitally!
Of course, with the HD age games have largely become so shit that I don't care to preserve them for myself or the future in general.

And again, I just feel it's important to buy the shit that you really like, doesn't matter if it's physical or digital or on sale for 85% off on Steam or whatever. Unless you don't care if the people behind it will be able continue to produce it or to even keep pursuing their profession at all. Which is a mindset that I find hard to understand, but it could be possible if you're just completely satisfied with the state of things ("don't need series X to continue, or don't want more music from artist X anyway"), I suppose.

Also, I'm only 22, mate! Surely I'm not a relic from a bygone era, I would think that this is literally the era in which I'm part of the main demographic that marketers would try to bait into buying everything they can! Well I'm not falling for it! Unless there's a huge marketing think tank going on to get people like me to import Japanese shoegazer albums!
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>>174633935
So are you, but at least I have pantsu in my life
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>>174634056
games wise i don't care at all, music wise i have hundreds of cds from youth and the only ones i bought later on was stuff i deem worthy (autechre/snd/mark fell and basic channel stuff) but yeah stuff means little to me now.

>>174634247
>So are you, but at least I have pantsu in my life
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>>174632198
>Cheerleader or personal dick sucker?
retard or merely pretending?
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>>174634891
try a new angle...i mean the insult not on the dick.
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>>174632972
>tfe you're fucking BITCH MOM interrupts Garegga study time

I don't WANT my DINNER, YOU FUCKING WHORE
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>>174633828
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>>174634630
Well yeah, I mean I am selective about which music or games are worthy to be bought physically as well. It really is a matter of how much of a connection and appreciation I feel towards it as a work of art!

Also, Autechre's supposed to be really good. I gather that it's experimental electronic music? Any especially good albums or tracks? I do love that sort of music as well, especially when it's a bit melancholy and crosses over with ambient- and/or techno-style soundscapes.

Also, we should play Windjammers again sometime!
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>>174633828
That is gross.
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>>174637171
darius-kun, what do you think about >>174604165
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>>174637171
>Also, Autechre's supposed to be really good.
thats for you to decide, my fav albums are draft 7.30, untilted, amber and quarastice. snd are my fav though almost the opposite of autechre with razor sharp minimalism i highly recommend atavism and tender love. yep we can play anytime, i was in there tonight but was bit laggy.

>>174638083
Not as gross as the pic he copied it from, thats not his imagination you're looking at lel.
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>>174638083
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>>174604165
What the hell kind of Darius is that? Looks better than Darius+ at least...

Also yes you should play Darius! Not sure how a marathon's gonna work out if you're very bad at them though... You should take these games on one at a time before you marathon them all!

>>174638224
I'll give all of these a listen then. I love leftfield, deep music.

>>174638224
>thats not his imagination you're looking at lel.
kek.
>>174638474
I mean I do like loli as much as anyone else but there's a limit as to how real they can be drawn until it becomes disgusting!
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>>174639065
>my line is the true line, you are disgusting
You do realize many people already find you disgusting for liking loli in general, right?
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>>174638224
>draft 7.30
This is trash. When the eleven-plus minute "Surripere" transforms from dark chillness to industrial hip hop, there is so much time dedicated to so few interesting ideas it is maddening. That's the real issue: there's just not enough ideas for your time. It doesn't work in "that ambient way." It's just boring.
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>>174639670
You know whats actually boring? your constant subjective opinion presented as objective fact schtick.
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>>174639065
>I do like loli
Go seek help. You are mentally ill and disgusting.
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>>174633828
jesus nigga thats some unsettling tony podesta shit
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>>174639882
Whatever you say, pleb. Enjoy your elevator music.
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>>174640957
>enjoy what you enjoy

Yeah that's generally how it works.
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>>174641482
Some people want their music to be a little more complex and deeper than bleeps and bloops. Might I suggest you try challenging yourself to understand and appreciate something with higher complexity.
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>>174641773
arrogant as well as pretentious and stupid, no thank you all the same.
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>>174641935
Heh, pitiful. Evolve.
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>>174642113
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>>174641773
Deeper and complex being what, one more pad?
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>>174642487
why engage him? he's drunk on his own nonsense and assumes complexity always = better, he's a donut with tunnel vision. You're better off having a discussion with a dragon dildo on the meaning of life.
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>>174639893
>>174639605
>You do realize many people already find you disgusting for liking loli in general, right?
Well I said I liked it as much as anyone else, so maybe I don't like it at all, eh?
No, to be fair I don't consume it or like it anymore at all really, partly because the legality of it is unclear. (also of hentai in general because you can't tell the age of a drawing)
But it also stopped appealing to me at some point. It's just drawings mate!
Definitely never liked "realistic" drawings like that though. And the level of abstraction did make a difference, to me anyway!
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>>174642773
Yeah it is pretty futile but thing is that the half he praises isn't more complex at all it just has some synth pads
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>>174642924
>Definitely never liked "realistic" drawings like that though.
i wasn't joking btw when i said its not his imagination, its realistic because its a copy of a pic.
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>>174642924
Not just the level of abstraction, the girl in kraut's drawing looks like she's seen some horrors and is being made to fake a smile which is bone chilling
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>>174642773
Complexity equals superiority. If you can't see that, you're not someone who can have an intellectual discussion about any topic. Sorry.
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>>174635000
>try a new angle...i mean the insult not on the dick.
i know your grasp on english is tenuous at best, but it's not an insult.
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>>174643593
well i listen to lots of minimal stuff, i'l just stay enjoying my dumb non complex arvo part, mark fell and phillip glass records.

>>174643535
>the girl in kraut's drawing looks like she's seen some horrors and is being made to fake a smile which is bone chilling
because it's traced from a picture.
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>>174643383
Oh yeah I believed you.

>>174643535
Not gonna open it desu, I've seen enough from the thumbnail!
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>>174642924
>I do like loli
>n-no i actually don't like it
Ok... I honestly don't give a flying fuck what you find disgusting and what not.
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>>174643535
>my drawing is bone chilling
Wow, seems like I did a pretty job then if I can provoke such powerful feelings with mere line art. Thanks for the compliment!
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>>174644403
does your mother know of your "preference"?
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>>174644878
Does YOUR mother know of your "mental competence"?
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>>174645058
to difficult to answer directly? no more hot pockets for pedo pants if she finds out?
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>>174645391
Why should answer such retarded and invasive questions?
Also fyi, lolis are not my preference. I love females all kinds of ages.
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>>174644403
Well it does look like backpedaling but when I think about it, whenever I go through my hentai collection and find an outrageous loli picture, I delete it. It's not exactly my go-to, never really was, but definitely less now than ever before.
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>>174643897
If you like abstract music, ASC - Nothing Is Certain and newer works might be worth a listen. My favourite artist and definitely some of my favourite music ever.

The music is kind of an abstract evolution of DnB, but doesn't have much in common with it anymore aside from the BPM.
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>>174645889
in the uk now that would be considered cp possession, retarded i know but there you go.
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>>174644763
Well if your goal's to remind people of why they hate pedos then you've accomplished that with flying colours
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What the hell is going on in this thread?
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>>174646785
Everything but shmup discussion
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>>174646785
>nekkid casper leg
disgusting! delete this!
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>>174646785
http://twitcasting.tv/c:cave_shooters/movie/366250321
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>>174646026
Oh yeah, no doubt.
Probably in Switzerland too, but it's not 100% clear. Previous violence, CP, etc. laws have recently started including depictions of "non-real" stuff, which in legal terms probably means they'll decide on a whim or something. lmao
It's a shitty precedent to set and is about as absurd as the idea of thought-crimes, but oh well~
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>>174647970
>is in the possession of child porn
>yet has the audacity to call me disgusting for drawing a picture which is completely legal
>at the same time preaches about laws and ethics
Heuchlerisch Hurensohn lol
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>>174649246
Es sind nur Zeichnungen, Lappen! Du bist derjenige mit echtem CP! Du bestreitest es nicht einmal! Cee hat dich einfach durchschaut!
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>>174649991
>it's ok when I do it!
According to the law your drawings are REAL CP. You just said it yourself LOL

I merely drew a picture of a child model, which is completely legal.

Heuchler wie du sind einfach zu dumm.
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>>174650448
Well no actually, the law only says that that sort of content doesn't have to be real to be illegal anymore. It's rather vague about it which isn't ideal for a law.

Da liegt ein Unterschied!
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Jetzt hört ihr zwei aber mal ganz schnell auf zu streiten. ಠ_ಠ
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>>174652167
>probably illegal, yes
>n-no it's r-rather vague!!!!
Just shut the fuck, Hohlbratze and jerk to your crudely drawn cartoons again
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>>174652389
So jetzt reicht's mir aber mit dir, Kraut! Bisher war das hier nur ein Geplänkel (bantz) Brudi, aber du willst es wohl nicht anders!

Oberlappen!!!!!
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so
Is danmaku unlimited poojin or good
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>>174653389
3
i mean 3
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>>174653389
poo
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