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>Future Improvements: Chat UI and Trade Policies
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=903

>Future Improvements: Auto Match, EXP Tomes and More
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905

>Plans for Combat System Changes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFGAS_Y6Is

>GM QnA Session : April 7th, 2017:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=922

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=923

>Events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=925
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=914
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt (embed) (embed) (embed)


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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/Uoyaho/ when?
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>Of course I'd be less mad.
>with RNG he has no effect on my drops.

Yeah something that has a 1/5000 chance of happening doesn't affect you when it happens because it's going to happen again soon enough for you that the chance is actually more like 1/1000 and you totally would never be mad someone lucked out while you kill another 20000.
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> and "(embed)" removed from the OP!
almost....
but ok

i was about to make a thread soonish with extra many embeds
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>>173647769
Oh fuck, I forgot to remove those from the extra stat points pastebin.
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gimme fotm pyro builds pls
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GAME IS SAVED!
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>>173647695
Is that supposed to make sense? Are you agreeing with me but trying to sound like you're not because you're butthurt?
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>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1POy4XkZVoBwi6i8RW4P3fuMUNWvsgboY88s9bbXx4nQ/edit#
Should we add this to the OP next time too?

>>173647965
Wiz1 Pyro2 Linker2 Thauma2 X (X = Sage, Pyro3 or Enchanter)
Wiz1 Pyro3 Linker3 Sage
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>>173648143
DPK or not, if you miss the drop it's not going to come around sooner for you. They still got the drop you were hunting for and you still most likely have to kill a bunch more.
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How do you become a successful featherfoot?
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>>173648547
Wiz3 Link3 Feather

Link into FF skills, hop around doing nothing like a retard for the rest of the time.
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>>173648547
Full INT Wiz3Linker2Thauma1FF2. If you have a Kabba2 at your side, you're set. Ein Sof helps you get a fuckton of HP and Double Chance makes you one shot everything except field bosses.
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>>173648857
>Featherfoot
>no Thaum
Nani?
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hey
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>>173649735
psst, wanna buy some drugs?
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>>173648857
>>173649428
Nice. I hope it gets better after the balance patch.
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>>173649930
NN-O!!
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>>173650667
Woah, easy there, kapo.
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>>173648478
Do you not understand what DPK is? In DPK, if no other players were there, I would've been 100% guaranteed to get that drop because it's DPK. Every time the other guy gets a drop, he's directly preventing me from getting one.
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why did TMC think it was a good idea to make low spawn rate enemies take a lot of kills to complete
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Did Excrulon come back or something? Looks like he made some sorta update 26 days ago.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addons
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>>173648298
>Should we add this to the OP next time too?
almost nobody reads the OP.
and that list is very outdated. many of them are just not available or 'was in beta, not imc fucked us'
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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>>173651273
To make you play more.
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>>173651703
why aren't you playing with my cock?
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>>173651703
Is that a bug or a feature?
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>>173651769
they gain nothing from that
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>>173651909
Yes.
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>>173651703
gets boring even before the circle 3

sapper is much better!
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>>173647189
Join Futureproof!
pm ApplyAFineHorse3
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>>173652050
But Wugushi does more single target damage and AoE damage than Sapper.
How is Sapper better?
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>>173651273
Are you sure you're just not in the right part of the map where those enemies spawn a fuck ton?
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>>173652224
How come the good and geared players of Futureproof left and joined CnL?
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>>173652262
>Claymore
>Punji
>Stake Stockades continual damage ring around the rosie
>Motherfukken broomtrap
>Hostage Bomb thingy multi hit
>Multi hit trip line of death
All skills that extremely synergizes with Fwee3 circling +aiming
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>>173652521
But Wugushi AoE doesn't have a target limit to begin with so...
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>>173652380
Cause CnL is much more active in pursuing goals.

FP is just their for newbies to have a place and prove themselves among company.
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>>173652521

>sapper 2
nice
>sapper 3
kys
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>>173652641
So Futureproof is the noob guild?
lol
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OK KIM, I'LL GIVE BACK YOUR 120 TP

CAN I PLEASE DOWNGRADE MY CHARACTER TO 317? I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS SO MUCH RANK 5 PLAYERS IN THIS DEAD GAME
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>>173652380
It was dead. And got reborn.
Also this >>173652641
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>>173652906
prep guild for the CnL bull
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>>173652521
Eh. The only real advantage Sapper has is being able to take both Rogue and FWEE and still being able to go Cannon2 with nearly full effectiveness. Wugu does everything else better.
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>>173652913
Which begs the question. Why is IMC balancing in terms of level and not in terms of attributes and item quality. Better yet. Why not just allow the game to have a permanent MMR system so the whole thing gets balanced and not get fucked every week.
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>>173652906
>Accept anyone from /tosg/
>noob
>Set high requirements
>Nazi tryhards
As if we needed more proof you don't play the game and just want thread drama.
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>>173652521
fug you, make it rain poison
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>>173652906
Yes. Thanks C*ts
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>>173648547
By deciding if you want to do PvP or PvE.
You NEED other damage circles like Pyro if you're doing the latter.
Magic Missile and FF skills by themselves can work with enough investment (read: anything will), but you want Pyro for your sustained damage.

>>173649428
>>173649458
Transpose is an unnecessary gimmick, and makes you reliant on a pocket healer.
Full CON can hit damage cap (maybe they'll remove it with the revamps?) with JP, and more tricks (Transpose, Ein Sof, etc) is just overkill in PvP.
If you're a PvE INT build you're better off using your Pyro skills since one-shotting mobs with BC is all well and dandy, but in the end it's more efficient to just JP and Fireball.

>>173650156
Everything I just said might change with the revamps, so who knows.
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>>173654850
Considering the skill you're talking about reaching the damage cap for makes you reliant on a pocket healer no less than transpose does... wouldn't you have one either way?
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Someone stop me from turning my Sorc into an Alchemist solely because the Alchemist outfit does things to me.
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>>173655105
That's why you don't spam BC in PvE.
By the time you fly up there, link mobs, and cast EXPLOOOOOSIION! you could've done more damage with other DPS classes + JP.

I'm not trying to say dont-bother-with-anything-other-than-Pyro, but building around BC isn't worth it given the damage cap, cooldown, and resources you're using up.
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>>173652913
>Assume every player has been playing for a while
>Swift step still appears on my buff bar in every mission
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>>173655180
Just make a folder full of Alchemist fanart. I can't blame you tho.
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>>173655552
>I'm not trying to say dont-bother-with-anything-other-than-Pyro
I can't tell.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsGRv-As0M

I love the evil laughter.
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>>173655180
DO IT. I turned my Doppel C3 into a Corsair C3.
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>>173656172
I'm saying that actual multihits > BC for PvE.
A Wiz3Link3FF will be dealing more overall damage with JP + BloodSucking/Bloodbath than a Transpose build with BC.
tl;dr - investing in Transpose/etc for BC shenanigans isn't worth it.
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Do I need Necro3 to link Dirty Pole to enemies before using Flesh Cannon?
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>>173656491
But you won't because the Thaum build will be full INT for PVE and will do more damage with those skills unless both are full INT in which case the Thaum build will do more in the case that BC is viable to use (which is pretty much anytime you are with a cleric)
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>>173656990
If you have a pocket cleric, il concede that ThaumFF is the best you can do, without other damage circles.

I still wouldn't recommend it because it gets outperformed by so many other things, you don't build around FF and expect to be competitive in PvE.
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>>173657671
It's better for solo too so long as you are fighting mobs you can bloodsuck from just because the tham build can swell body for double exp/loot while still having a faster rotation
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>>173655843
>>173656387
Oh wait, I forgot Alchemist is the same circle as Sorc2, but I already took Sorc2, and Sorc is godawful without Sorc2. Hmm.

Since the rework will make damage more reliant on weapons, stats, and level rather than the skill, I wonder if throwing Alchemist into a build won't gimp yourself as much. That'd be nice.
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This thread is full of ugly girls. *FWEE!* Let's fly away from here, Wugu sisters!
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>>173657969
Or you could just get other damage circles.
The guy asked how to be a successful Featherfoot.
The answer is go full PvP, or to pick up damage circles beforehand (doesn't have to be Pyro, even Elem is better than nothing).
Pretty much everyone can solo farm nowadays, just because you can do it with a inferior build doesn't mean you have to.
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>>173656328

Based Flesh Cannon, one of my favorite skills of the wizard tree. Ranged (unlike 90% of the wiz stuff).
16 fucking multi-hits so it's a nice damage and it can also destroy diev statues and QS barricades, does decay, has a decent attack mode even at lv 6 (I got the gem!), you can release the skill at lv 1 ultra fast even without quickcast but the damage increase as if you're charging it full during the hits. Plus there's the impact delay that happens when you use another skill after you jump cancel the animation: the hits get delayed but a second later they burst almost all at the same time. Oh and if something cancels your flesh cannon (like a staggering hit), it turns into a free flesh hoop.

And the evil laughter.
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>>173658416
There's literally nothing inferior about swell body for farming. In fact, it's the best thing there is. The fact that you get a TBL character as your farming character is 2 birds 1 stone
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>>173658601
You're not going to do well in TBL without Kino3 or at the very least Cryo3.
FF NEEDS its CC to do anything with its skills.
For every surprise Sleep or JP BC you land, you'll have dozens more matches of not being able to do anything because of clerics.

Yeah Swell is great for farming.
That's why Pyro2Link2Thaum2 is meta right now.
You can go ThaumFF for a mediocre character all around, or accept FF's limitations and choose what you want to focus on.
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>>173658915
>You're not going to do well in TBL without Kino3 or at the very least Cryo3.
Too bad I already do.

And so... this post reveals you are, in fact, saying just play Pyro. Cut the pretense next time.
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>>173659146
Since we don't know what the guy wants to do, this is the best I can advise on FF:
Kino/Cryo FF for PvP
Pyro/Elem/Link3(no Thaum) FF for PvE
PICK ONE.

You have wiggle room, but if you specifically want a farming character, yeah go fucking roll the meme Pyro build.
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meetup when?
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>>173659343
probably takes less time to make a new account right now and level it to 317 for a practonium than what you had to do
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>>173659681
probably not
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>>173659595
But if you're advising link3 over link2/thaum in any circumstance for PvE you're not giving him the best advice.
Swell Body will always be better than the couple of extra links unless you don't want drops (which is rare)
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>>173659343
bezelea & mia?
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>>173660145
How about runecaster? It fits right into a wizard 3 linker setup.
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>>173660145
I'm not recommending ThaumFF because it's mediocre all around.
Meh at farming, meh in output, meh in PvP.
I cannot in good conscience tell someone to make a character like that.

3 extra links (JP gem is pretty cheap nowadays) is more Futureproof than Thaum1.
If you want a good farming character, go Pyro (there, no beating around the bush).
The other builds have better output than Thaum.

At this point, we're arguing over nothing, the revamps will probably make this all useless advise.
And since we can just reset our characters by then, it won't matter what we make right now.
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>>173660739
CDs too long for PvE, can be good in PvP once they make all skills usable with RoG.
Still needs a cleric in your team to use it with BC, but the defensive buffs are really good.
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Can Cataphract's skill Rush be used unmounted and while dashing?
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>>173659343
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>>173661238
No. It requires a mount. Why would you go 3 circles into a mount class if you didn't want to be mounted?
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Who exactly left Futureproof for CnL?
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>>173662005
__(You)__ and ___(You)___
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>>173662005
me
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>>173660043
I probably got 8 of those faster than you crafted 8 of those
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Is there still demand for red dawn frags or do people not really care about Phada anymore?
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>>173662285
leveling sucks after a dozen times. crafting them is nice
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>>173662475
I'll buy it from you in Klaipeda.
It better be cheap though. I am stingy.
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>>173662589
>being in denial that it takes you forever to get all the mats together and that its not an annoying hassle as if you're just strolling through Orsha randomly deciding to craft your practonium cubes from your infinite supply of mats
:^)
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>>173662760
>that it takes you forever to get all the mats together
but it does not
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>Get hit by the mysterious OHKO in 290
>Use soul crystal
>Artilonium drops right afterwards
Well alrighty then!
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when do we get databased
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0RGiwXOrwE

>2017
>not rolling a Bokor
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>>173664159
You should make a bunch of these infinite damage spots on the orange weapon mat maps and just afk over night
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>>173664295
I think there's a limit because it's tied to the bouncy skull.
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>>173664159

mechanically speaking, what's happening?
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>>173664295
You do know they don't last forever right?
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>Gm spawns Grim reaper, gets killed
>"no cube?"

Oh mango.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

LET ME PLAY SORCERER BRO, THEY BUFFED IT SO THE SUMMON SCALES WHEN YOU MOUNT IT.

SURE MY MAN, LET'S DO IT, JUST BUY THAT ATTRIBUTE

BUY ATTRIBUTE? YOU MEAN LEVEL IT, RIGHT MY NIGGAR?

WHAT????? OH PROBBABLY A LV 1~5, CHEAP STUFF SINCE IT'S A RANK 5 CLASS, CAN'T WAIT TO SHOOT SHIT WITH MY NIGGASHOT-

WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS THIS
74 MILLION KIMS TO MAX IT?

PSIDFTJWEGOER,,K,KLGR,GJKEH.ÇRTH,.RELHMÇFDFHTJ

https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/208011
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>>173667428
It's like you've never seen an enhance attribute before
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>>173659343
gratz but >>173659681 is indeed right, levelling a new alt is lot faster
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>>173667756

that's basically a utility attribute, like the serpentine one. you buy one level of it and you get the 100% debuff.

Or falconer's circling. You pay 20m to max it (lv 15) and enjoy the 75% pseudosplash

This is not a permanent boost to my summon and you can't unmount while the demon perform his skill
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>>173667930
or just.. do both?
these mats are really not that bad
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>>173667930
Not really, the quests are really easy. Some npc only appear at certain times during the day, but it shouldn't take more than 2 days. The guild event itself to get the recipe takes about 30min.
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mfw these tp prices

should i reroll on the brown person server?
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>>173668530
Only if your ping to it is good.
All the TP in the world won't prevent you from killing yourself if the game constantly lags.
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>>173668530
>spending money on this shit
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What time is does mentenance start?
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>>173668803
in 1-2 min
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>>173668530

Well, if you're from NA you will play with godly ping on silute (unless you're with a shitty connection at the west coast). Main concern is that IMC showed interest in bringing the server to Brazil again so...
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How many panda points can you get per day? 50 from uphill+50 from TBL?
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>>173669094
you can get 100 only from uphill, you get 50 per run and have two runs
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>>173668851
how long will it last?

Also what are some good cataphract spear to have at 80?
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>>173668605

i want a birb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhzr2x02QPk

Oh god, my sides hurt.
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>>173669182
Trident
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>Got a Blut cube despite not being in a party
Hehe, thanks Mango.
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>>173669182
about 4h
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>>173669094
>>173669135

thanks for reminding me that full pve retards get twice as much pvp points than me. fuck kim
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>>173669421

While I don't care about the drops, this gm is retarded, you can't login to a server and impact the economy just because.

Gm summoning shit is not a event. Not in the city. A GM comes and summon a boss? Can't be more artificial than this. Even worse, the boss drops stuff, lol. Ragnarok Private Server tier event.
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I just realized that the removal of crit rate from dex means having the Panda will actually be important for physical dps characters.
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>>173669332
This is fantastic.
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>>173668530
An year ago, second pre-release pack was only 10$ in Russia. Great times.
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>>173669563
It is an event. Technically, literally, and practically. Having a boss automatically spawn according to a computer program is more artificial than having a human spawn it manually.

If you don't like it, quit and stop ruining the economy by trying to monopolize a boss to drive up the prices of its drops.
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>>173669715
>10,000 PvP points to get.
I'm honestly ok with panda giving buffs. The autistic PvPer deserves it.
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>>173669886

I never touched a boss cube. (Ok, I got a few dullas back in the days). My main concern is that a GM is artificial figure in terms of roleplay. They don't come as some sort of entity. They come as a staff member and ruins the game's atmosphere by tossing a boss from nowhere in the middle of the town. They could do much better.
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>>173669563
Two (2) Bluts giving talt-baited cubes is impactful to the economy? If the server crashed and reset spawns I bet you wouldn't be complaining about extra Bluts then.
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Seems like the devs have hard set rules on what bosses they're allowed to spawn surprisingly. I always assumed a lot of cards weren't available because the devs hadn't thought to implement them but it actually does seem to be intentional on their part.
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>>173669715
The new update that makes skills do % damage basically makes the 1%damage attribs useless so those will be changed to 1% crit attrib instead. The current crit% attribs become damage% instead. For magic skills its +1% to magic amp
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>>173668330
>>173668348
Its faster to level alts because there are less than a dozen of guilds in the whole iToS going to get these recipes
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If you log in after maintenance but before the dungeon runs have reset, can you squeak in an extra set of dungeon runs or does it not automatically reset your runs after server reset?
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>>173670131
They're kupoles, faggot. And it's really pathetic how you're trying to lie and hide behind some RP excuse. You're a boss mafia baby so far up your own ass that you're this upset when a handful of plebs get cubes without having to pay whatever you're trying to charge.
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>>173670538
The reset is always based on the clock except when it's bugged and doesn't reset at all.
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>another shitty event where you have to do a bunch of shit for a 1% chance at a battle bracelet
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free TP when
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>>173670676

Why I would do this here? Anonymously at a place that IMC will never hear?

If I was a boss mafia faggot that actually cares about this cube stuff I would go to the forums and complain, not here in /tosg/.
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>>173670924
Yeah this sucks, I want TP. Stupid baiting bullshit, they put too much shit in that cube to be worthwhile.
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>>173670529
>recipes
yes, they are not that easy.. for everyone.

but the quests+mats are
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>>173671097
Because you don't want people to know who you are. The forum will be full of BRs who want more cubes anyway.
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>>173670507
Why would they make such a change? If a skill did 130% of your patk and you had 70% attribute, the skill could do 200% instead. Attributes would be a bit less impactful but there's no reason to completely overhaul them to something different, and they never implied that they would either.

>>173670924
Would you rather have no event with alternative ways and extra chances for getting stuff?
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video of the new event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seS_0CB1bMs
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>>173670924
>mfw I'm had everything to make sissels for months except the stupid bracelets and I haven't made it out of a spite to not pay the jewbots 20m+
You will never get my money. I'll use Zachs on my low levels forever if I have to.
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>>173671274

So what's the point of doing a hidden complain here. I'm genuinely triggered by those half-assed events since the RO times. It's not so hard for a GM to make some roleplay and actually involve people to maybe JUSTIFY a boss that has drops. I mentioned the boss thing because...is a issue. When Im against something I like to point out why and the economy is one of the strongest arguments: it's literally a staff logging in and tossing cubes.
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>>173671515
People complain here all the time regardless of whether there's a point or now. The economy will be fine.
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>>173671209
I just have to level another alt to get the last mystical cube i will need
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What is the time is the maintainance finish?
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>>173672151
this many hours >>173669438
after it started at like >>173668851
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>>173671338
looks nice
exp seems worthwile
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>>173671515
You sound like a gay faggot north american redditor

shove a buttplug up your ass and stop typing
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>>173675512
>maybe if I add as many effects, shines and colors as possible people won't notice the absolutely vomit-inducing anatomy in my drawings
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So how dead is this game really?
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>>173676746
It's impossible to find a party at morning. Dead enough?
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>>173668085
No it's not you dumbass. It increases the direct damage of your summon and who the fuck maxes damage attributes? At best you go 90%. Fuck you you little whiner.
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>>173669332
I shouldn't have laughed, but I did.
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>>173671414
BB costs like 7m on our server wtf you retard
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>>173677268

It only increases when you're mounting it. It increase your summons attack/phys attack based on your matk, unlike real % damage attributes that increases your skills FINAL damage. If I have 1k matk and my TS has 2k matk, He'll do 2.5k damage with lv 50 attribute, while a real skill enhance attribute would do 3k for the summon alone or 3.7k considering his attack being boosted by my matk as well.

IMO it should fall for the utility category (usually capped at lv 50 and with a different price table.

This is not the only retarded attribute in the game but it's clearly one of the most impaction ones.
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Fedi still down? I usually like to get my shit done in the morning. When the fuck do they open the servers again?
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>>173677558
lol stfu
did you even ever take a look at other attributes
IMC doesnt give a shit how things "should be"
all trees have their retarded bullshit garbage attributes that no one will bother with
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>>173677598
First thing at the top, in the same place it is every week. Why do people have trouble with this?

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=923
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>>173677861
Because time moves forward anon and we all live in different time zones so it's easier to just ask you retard.
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>>173677901
>Calling someone retarded
>Haven't taken the time to make a quick and easy reference from server time to current time by just looking at in-game clock while playing wayyy before.
Who's the retard retard.
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>>173677901
>Can't type timezones into google
>Calls others a retard
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Servers up soon! What're you cuties gonna do!?
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>>173679052
Waste 100k to get another talt!
https://tos.neet.tv/items/900148
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>>173679052
Login,
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event
other character
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event
other character
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event
other character
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event
other character
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event
other character
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event
other character
>run saalus and 290 solo, do daily event quest, cherry blossom event

Then I finally have time to run in the game world and explore, maybe quest. Oh shit it's 11 pm and I'm dead tired.
>Do ET + Library
>logout
>repeat all tomorrow
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>Do cherry blossom event before the reset at 6
>Do chores at 6
>Bed

wtf am I doing with my life
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>Current Year
>Still can't buy a dog
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>>173679801
Effort placed in a korean grinding MMO that will make your character go stronger.

It's the same principle of motivation conscientious people employ on their work life/ gym to build their portfolio, money or muscle size.

But instead of using it for those we use it for a game! It should be fine though as long as you still have a work life outside the game. The game basically just reinforces what you already use and strengthens its use more.
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Hunter c3 or Hunter c2 scout?
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>>173680064
so you're saying I could be fit and wealthy in real life if I stopped playing games?
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>>173680330
nope
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>>173680330
Not necessarily. But the potential will be opened uped since you get more time to allocate on those activities that will help you get fit or wealthy.
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It's up!
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>>173681058
You're damn right it is. *unzips dick* Get to wetting weet and weet.
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THANKS
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>>173681778
How's the exp?
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>>173681846
No idea I'm 330
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>>173681846
why are you asking us? go do it yourself
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>>173682009
I don't want to.
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>>173681846
Not bad.
I'm lvl 294
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Advanced Gem Abrasives, Pincers, Terranium. Not bad for a literal cakewalk dungeon.
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I got an Animus and BB on my first cube...
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It's literal trash for high levels and also you can easily solo it at almost any level range, but if you want some exp queue it. It will make even level 200 to 328 ranges so squeeze some exp out of it.
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Do the tomes have the retarded 14 day timer, or are they they the ok kind
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>>173682775
They're permanent.
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I'm on Fedimian server and there's constant queues on it so easy to get in.

This is how much each mob gives exp for level 260 and how much the two final bosses give. It's super fast 3 minute dungeon and easy.
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is it a good time to be back to this game ?
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Reopening this shit is a clear waste of silver yet again.
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>Jolly Roger
>Place a flag that raises the combat abilities of the pirate crew. A combo is activated if multiple enemies are defeated near the Jolly Roger. Achieving a combo of 300 activates a fever buff that grants additional damage to missile attacks.

Am I reading this right? You have to kill 300 enemies in 35 seconds for a small missile damage buff that lasts 10 seconds?
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>>173683148
Events going on, but a major rework is coming sometime in summer that will also include ways to reset characters. So if you came back now you could be ready for that too. Game's much better than it used to be as well.
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>>173681846
Zero. The mobs are based on the lowest level, so you get no exp if you get matched like this.
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>Try to re-enter Klai channel 1
>It just freezes up

What the fuck is Mango doing on that channel
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>>173683565
The combo count increments every time after every kill within a timer. 1 point for 1st enemy, 2 points for 2nd, 3 for 3rd etc
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>>173683565
It's 1 combo per hit (not kill).
Stupidly easy to do in ET with a party of 5. it literally pops within 5 secs of you plopping the flag down if your party is filled with multi hit.
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=927
yeaaaaaah
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>>173684168
>>173684072
Oh I see. They've made it an actual party ability. I mostly solo so I probably won't level it up past 2 for attribute.
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How good is Highlander C2 without C3?
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Odds of these moron devs fixing Donnes but fucking up the new Sakura
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>>173684321
Almost a whole hour to fix it.

>>173684587
It's good. 2 circles is pretty much just for Skyliner which is amazing.
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>>173683653
I will queue this as level 70, don't stop me
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>>173684887
Stop this madman!
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>>173684858
How's this for a piratey farming build? My build is going to have Corsair C3 in it no matter what, I already know it's bad.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112628988.23334554.253a557585.4595b5.122c517f8a95.153555
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Any slot in Comfy?
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Are there bonuses for being in guild?
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>>173685239
you gain a chat/someone to do dailies with and if you can get lv 14 guild a second practonium cube
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server is up!
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>>173685090
I'd change some of the points around. I don't get the spec at all, but it's your choice. Double Pay Earn is terrible since it's 1 hit per stack. So unless you can kill your mob in 5 hits or less you won't make anything out of it so you need big damage skills for it.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112628988.1123334355.11253a43517585.114495b5.122c315a758a95.153555

Punish with the new Wild buff is a 10 second stun. Cross Guard increases pierce damage which even if you don't use 2H at all you can sometimes try it out. Wagon wheel is a nice AoE knockback when 3 bashes aren't enough to gather mobs. I'd max weapon assault so it's 100% uptime, but that's up to you.

You'll be kind of underwhelming damage in the end, but you will be able to do some 10k constant crits on cloth mobs if you get a practonium sword 1h to stage 5 or more, especially after rebalance when 1H swords gain a huge buff in damage.
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>it costs only 15k to reroll the level 80 dungeon cube
>it costs 20k to reroll the level 50 dungeon cube

why is it more expensive, cos of the contents? I suppose the 80 one has arde but mostly beetleback shit and no gold bars.
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>Only pardoner in Fedi typically charges 800-850
>Charging 900 when the competition hasn't logged in yet

Jews, I swear to god...
Is the "never pay more than 5k" guy the only one who doesn't pull this shit
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>>173685090
>My build is going to have Corsair C3 in it no matter what
Why?

>>173686248
At least your server isn't filled with retards selling buffs for 85k hoping someone will buy by accident.
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>>173686248
You can always not pay if you can't afford 50s, you know, to send a message or something.
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>>173686587
I'm not ; )
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>>173686543
I wanna be a pirate and shoot people.
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>>173686703
Be a schwarzer reiter!
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>>173686914
I don't want some disgusting pet near me, let alone below me. Wouldn't an SR want to be my friend because of new Jolly Roger?
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Donnes event has been nerfed. It took me around 80 mutant kills in Alembique Cave just to get 10 of them. This is now a fucking bore to do.
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>>173685141
We're kicking that Pan autist and letting you in ASAP
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Also you will get a VGA crash when you return Donnes event now.
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>>173687009
Penguins are not disgusting!
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>>173687858
I have a hamster though.
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>>173687184
uphill nigga
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>>173686248
kys cuckimaru you are the cancer killing tos
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>>173688817
epic name drop
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Convince me to log in today
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>>173689468
The event mission is fast & easy.
>>
KEKIMARU?
MORE LIKE KIKEMARU LMAO
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>>173689468
Go back to sleep.
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>That one faggot who keeps delivering the dark crystals one at a time
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>>173689468
The new event adds a cool new instance with fun prizes!
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>>173689468
fuck off retard
>>
that's why I hate addons
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When will we finally have a samurai class and have it be fucking terrible
>>
>Dungeon entries fucked
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>>173691535
What's wrong with them?
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So i walked into the mercenary outpost, got kicked to character selection and now that character can't enter world. Other characters work fine, am i retarded or imc?
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>>173691684
this happened to me before, good luck fixing it, my character was stuck in the virtual void for a few days
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>>173691672
Have a large chance to either kicking you to the login or crashing you completely, losing the run. Dungeons, and Saalus.
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Good thing this scales to the lowest level
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>>173691684
Did you try switching channels in the character selection
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>>173691893
That worked, thanks, anon.
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>>173691815
oh shit it's happening for me too
rip 3 saalus runs
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>>173687324
How do I join?
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Any guilds on Fedimian?
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>>173693306
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>>173693306
whisper Paizuri
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>>173693306
Yes there is, but the guy you have to wisp is offline now, name in the OP
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Is this game worth coming back to?
>>
>>173694547
For how long u played?
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>>173694615
>u
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>>173694671
do u have problems with "u"?
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Guys. I can't see the news front page. It's not loading
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Can you reroll event cube?
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>>173695026
It will cost you.
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>>173695026
a small amount of 100k
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Is the game still grindy?
>>
>>173695603
Is korean MMO still grindy u ask?
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>>173662005
Some fat asian camwhore
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>>173695603
Not nearly as much as before but yes.
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>>173696814
>camwhore
Where can I see the show?
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So the cherry blossom event is broken, right?
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>>173697584
Already did 2 runs. Last one broken and can't re-enter. I'm too afraid to do normal dungeons now
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>>173697456
whisper plasmagica
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>>173697714
>enter event dungeon for the first time
>kicks me out immediately

what the HEKC
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Feel when did the event twice on all my characters today.
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>>173698793
Is it good exp?
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feel when you are already burned out of this event and gave up on doing it anymore or more than 3 runs per day
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>>173652380
because they cannot handle or got over whelmed by FUN™
see pic
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So it's getting worse and not better. I have 2 1 entry vouchers expiring today. I gotta do some dungeons!
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CnL works only because it isn't a /tosg/ guild anymore
All actual /tosg/ guilds are 5 man party guild or worse
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>>173695603
>>173695782
not really, I can get from lvl 1 to 100 now in less then a few hours, while back then it would of take a day. Plus the new dungeon and quests layout killed all the exp walls from lvl 50 to 300
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>>173699617
Yeah reminder to remove CnL from the OP.
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>>173699354
>>173683653
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>>173699617
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>>173699982
CNL literally has ex-Crimson refugees with no prior ties to /tosg/, it's as much a 4chan guild as Lotus is.
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>>173693306
Join Coffee House if you want to read a chat that is mainly in a Discord.
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>>173700202
I don't mind using discord.
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>>173700281
My point was that's all you'll do in that guild.
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>>173700119
Very good. 4chan and vg is shit.
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>/tosg/ guild
more like Feddit
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Does it matter which cardboard cube recipe you use or will 2h staff cardboard cube have a high chance of yielding a 2h orange staff?
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>>173701763
I think it's all random.
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>>173701957
Cheers mate. Got like 8 artilonium today and I have no plans on making any oranges but I figured I could play lottery and make some profit.
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>>173697584
I can do all 3 runs just fine.
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>>173702240

You're better off selling that artilonium. Cardboard recipes are a meme.
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>>173702762
No. They go for 600k only each at best. If I can use 1.2m worth in a recipe plus some trash you get on dailies and 1m to reroll for a chance of a 50m to 60m recipe, I'm going to take it.
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>>173702762
>make a new event for new accounts
>still have these retarded autistic restrictions
>can't even buy any potions mayne
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>>173703214
Wasn't meant to quote you
>>173702762
it happened accidentally

truly sorry gomenasai
i shall commit sadoku
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>>173703090

Which recipe goes for 60mil on your server? I don't know the specific rates but I'm positive it's less than 1 in 30 to get a recipe worth that much.
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>>173701329
He is right though
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>>173703214
Did you buy TP on a brand new account?
If yes, then thank you, cuck, for supporting my freeloading ass.
>>
>>173703548
I agree, you're right. Shouldn't shitpost so much though.
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>>173703598
no why would I do that?
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>>173703214
Oh, I know that feeling. Started playing fencer not so long ago, killed a couple of hours just to craft a mediocre "duelist" rapier. I asked support to remove this restriction, but they say they can't. Thanks IMC.
>>173703598
He didn't! This premium set is free for new accounts.
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>>173703739
What's that boy on the left? I don't think I've ever seen a boy one of those.
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>he fell for the wugushit meme
LOL
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>>173703739
>new players get to R8 in a week
>I still haven't reached it
JUST.
>>
New player anon with old account, recently got to Lvl 50 and dungeoned twice that sent me to lvl 67.

Been reading leveling guides and they just say "Just make both Klaipeda and Orsha quests on your level" but the main quest in Klaipeda is around lvl 50 and the one in Orsha is literally in the beginning telling me how to level up skills.

The fuck do i go now?
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>>173704607
Do zones of your level.
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>>173704607
Make a new account for the love of god
the rewards are insanely good
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>>173704385
Well, I reached R7 in a couple of days as fencer and then decided to try smth else. Because fencer was boring as fuck, wugushi is much better.
>>173704607
You go and start new account to get some bonuses. To be honest, I have no idea how to get through 50-100lvl since I was powerleveled.
>>
>>173704953
>>173705025
Would love to make a new account but the only way is making a new Steam account which im not gonna do, mine has 218 games, playing Enter the Gungeon, DS3 and Binding of Isaac.

Sent a ticket to IMC asking to delete my account or let me link a new account, their answer was "Contact Steam" but Steam just tells me to "Contact the game's developer" so im pretty much fucked.
>>
>>173705823

Why does making a new one mean you can't use the old one anymore?
>>
>>173705823
Why do you need this free to play no-achievement game in your main account?
>>
>>173704953
>>173704953
Not that guy, but I'm considering it right now. The issue is, I have an unusued month token (I bought straight from TP shop) and 7mil. Is there anyway to move this?
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>>173705985

You can put up a piece of shit etc item for 7mil on your new account and buy it off of your old account. As for the token, I'm not sure.
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>>173705823
You can always switch tough, less than a minute to login and you play tos for more than 1 hour so its worth the new account. And I bet none of your steam friends play tos
>>
A friendly tip. There are two 7 day tokens one at lvl15 or so for each character on a new account. Also you can just activate a token, delete a character and level new one. Or at least I suppose so, I didn't try.
>>173705823
Contact IMC again then. But why won't you just create a second account for ToS only? So I did. It's quite convenient because I can just let my friends play my games.
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>tfw 30F ET boss drops 1 Lv2 Earth Fragment only
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Fencers might care for this
The new rapiers are getting released in kTest
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>>173703346
mace, staff, shield and rod all cost upwards of 50m
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>>173706267
I think it works I will try later today and report back

Like you could probably ask a friend to put a warlock in west siaulai and power level yourself a year of token in about an hour or so
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Is Phada actually worth 25 mill or is the guy on Klai going maximum oversheckle?
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>>173706673
That would be fucking cool. Btw how to check my token time left?
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>>173706958
F1 then character settings
where the token benefits are is a timer
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>>173706958
F1 last tab
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>>173706248
>>173705025
>>173704953
Ok caved in and made a new account, for someone who doesn't really know what the fuck he's doing, what's the best class to start with?
I was using a Dievderby going for Druid but the leveling was a bitch to do.
Mostly looking for a solo class, like some anon said, none of my friends play this and i usually play alone while bingewatching something.
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>>173707101
pyrolinker or some scout wugu build or something

I wouldnt really pick a class on how good it is for a newbie though
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>>173707101
50 upward is a party content so pick whatever
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>>173707101
Archers with no gear can just put 1 in oblique shot, spam it, and toss a couple points into con for easy mode. Pyro isn't as brainless but turns massively OP once it gets agny.
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>>173707043
>>173707070
Thanks. Those event tokens do really stack without problems and can be easily obtained. I guess it's time to make a lifetime premium for ToS.
>>173707101
You can level up to 230 maybe more,
didn't go further
using dungeons only. It's should be pretty easy for dievderby. I would gladly powerlvl u from 50 to 100, but I guess it'll be problematic for wugu.
>>
>>173707689
Haha fuck
>>
>>173706513

new shit rapiers or new 315 rapiers
>>
>>173707689
Yeah its probably super easy to do with a warlock friend

>friend sets up dark spirits on infroroctors
>you make a new char
>walk in
>get lvl 15 in a minute
>go to klaip
>get your cube
>open get your token
>delete character and rinse and repeat
>>
>>173707101
Diev's are the best solo class in the game, and leveling a cleric is just as fast as anything else.
>>
>>173707791
New 315 rapiers
Also the stat changes comes in tomorrow ktest too
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>>173707846
>>173707689
Ok gonna go try again Diev.
Cleric 2, DievDerby 3, Druid 3 for the Lycantrophy
Full INT, that was my goal, don't really know about skills but im guessing Heal 10, Cure 10, Carve attack 15, the CD reduction statue.
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>all these plebs doing the event on 10 characters because they dont have a bracelet
kek
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I've never made an archer. What control mode is the most efficient? I'm used to controller and can use mousemode. I want to make an Appraiser into Cannoneer. What would be good circles before Appraiser?
>>
Is this new event worth something for leveling or is just meme items?
>>
>>173708114
Good for me
I just sit back while the high levels carry the event for me and I get my free exp
>>
>>173708197
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913
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>>173708141

I play mouse on controller and it's okay. Mouse even better.
>>
>>173708197
The exp is decent with tomes for the time invested
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>>173707846
It's only fast if you get cafrisun, pardoner buffs, and a couple cheap elemental damage hats, which aren't hard to get, but new players might not know about them.
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>http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=34
many changes
google sux. i hope Sunhwapark does it fast

>>173706513
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/314106
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/313305
maybe trash

>Requirements
>Classes 사이코키노 C3
>>
I dunno if Fencer would cry or not now
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/314106
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/313305
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>315 purple new Rapier is weaker than HG rapiers and Venier
>315 orange rapier is shit too
Ok, i am going to class reset my Fencer3 into a Dragoon maybe
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>>173708369
Now he knows. Well, he won't be able to obtain hats since trading is forbidden for new accounts, but cafrisun should be simple.
>>173708459
I don't understand this fucking weeb language.
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How come nobody wants to do dungeons
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>>173708613
mouse over the stats to get auto translation from ToS neet
Purple rapier is trash and orange is shit too because no +2 skill and not high enough crit rate stat
Right now with these rapiers Fencers won't crit with DEX changes
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>>173708702
Too much effort not enough payoff compared to missions
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>>173708702
Because bracelets you clueless nigger.
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>>173708702
I want. But it's 1AM, so I also want to sleep.
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>>173708702
because IMC fucked upand using the auto matchmaker cause DC and -1 run duyring the loading
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How come nobody wants to do missions, then
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>talt
>terranium
>advanced abrasive

not worth my 200k in rerolls
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>>173709000
>rerolling memes
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They nerfed all the cube roll costs. Game saved.
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>>173708284
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913

Nah, That one I know, I want to know about the exp for new alts.

>>173708352
Something to consider. Thanks.

>>173708769
+2 means nothing when you can buff yourself with venier and switch to the proper dps rapier. People already do this with transcended spada
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can non-token users trade?
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>5 characters so far
>Just a bunch of abrasives, terranium, zircon and obsidian
This event is shit.
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>>173709150
Yes but everything they trade will become untradable. I think this is true of event token users too, for those abusing that.
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>>173709250
I just wanted to transfer my premium haircut, lenses and wizard costume to a new account, so it's fine. Wait, does it mean that I'll be unable to move those items through team storage?
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>>173709582
I don't know. Maybe.
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>>173709582
Lol you can't trade hair and lenses

It will work for the costumes though
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>360% matk zaibas

nice
>>
Are the tomes from the event rewards tradable?
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>>173709710
Absolute madmen
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>>173709724
Nope. You can't even craft them into a better tome.
>>173709692
That's sad. So what should I buy for 89 TP on my old acc to trade?
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Team warehouse
The team warehouse is reorganized .

- You can use 5 spaces by default .
- Team store is available even if you do not have tokens .
※ Items can be moved freely, but you must use tokens for silver deposits .
- When using tokens , you can use + 15 spaces by +10 spaces .

Map
World maps and map exploration rates are shared on a team basis .

Adventure journal
Expense card rewards are reduced by 2/3 compared to the previous experience .

Dungeon
The amount of silver dropped by Armor , Red Rabban Jade Boss Monsters in Castle Dungeons has been reduced .
The amount of silver drop in normal monsters increases .
>>
Has anyone even got anything decent from the event? I've yet to see anyone get the recipes or the wizard bracelet let alone battle.
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>>173709710
We're never getting away from tree of multihits are we? Zaibas hits 15+ times, for a single hit to match that its have to have a 3000% multiplier and I just can't see them doing that.
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>>173709945
>We're never getting away from tree of multihits are we?
No. The way the game is built means multihits will always be better unless they give single hits ridiculous base skill damage to compensate.
>>
>>173709895
enchant scrolls maybe

>>173709915
>Adventure journal
>Expense card rewards are reduced by 2/3 compared to the previous experience .

I'm not sure what they mean by this

>MapWorld maps and map exploration rates are shared on a team basis .

but thats nice
>>
>>173710101
They probably mean you only get 1 card per map instead of 3 since all your other characters will get them.
>>
What does the number above your head mean after killing a boss in a party
>>
>>173710419
use ur brian moran
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>>173710419
DPS ranking.
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The fuck?
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>snipe will be a 3600% attack

>>173710678
No penalties for physical damage, only 25% bonus? That's going to hurt swords who don't roll circles with debuffs now. On the bright side it means I don't have to care too much about plate monsters.
>>
Why does my game start freezing up after it's been open for a few hours?
>>
>>173710678
>no more armor type reductions
holy shit
>>
>>173710861
Verify the integrity of the cache. Recent patch fucked up my game files and I lost like 45 important files.
>>
How did IMC managed to kill 1ch of merc post?
And how much does "mercenary post manager outfit" costs on Fedimian?
>>
>>173709945

God. 333% is low. It also lost the flat increase on level AND int. (full int zaibas had free +800 damage from the raw int alone).

also, even a stage 5 weapon would give 800 matk now

Expect shit like 2500% for one hit skills like freezing sphere or hand knife.
>>
HOW TO NERF WELFARE 290 RUSH MONEY?

INSTANCE DISCONNECT, OF COURSE
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>when someone namedrops
do your part
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>>173710678
Wugu stronk
Featherfoot okay.
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>>173711191
Poisons and psycho element are really good now
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>>173711183
Enjoy getting banned for report abuse
>>
someone said that the new values are already on ktest neet

but that's not true

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#41333b.1525.4f.15
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>>173711407
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/40601
Is this new?
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>>173711439
I want to fuck Mia.
>>
>>173711653
You mean you haven't yet?
She's pretty cheap
>>
>>173709915
>Red Rabban Jade
But my 290 rushes.

If deposits is an accurate translation and it's not referring to both deposits and withdrawals, that means we won't have to worry about silver getting stranded when a token expires anymore.
>>
GOD I'M SO ANGRY LOL

I FUCKING NEED SILVER

AND INSTANCES ARE MY JOB
CAN'T RUSH 290, CAN'T DO SAALUS, CAN'T FARM DUNGEONS

WHY
IS
THIS
ALLOWED

HOW THE FUCK THIS IS NOT FIXED YET

AND I HAVE SOME DUNGEON RESETS TO USE THAT WILL EXPIRE IN A FEW DAYS
>>
>>173711407
They are, on teh actual skill page https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/40104
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they nerfed @damage attribute to 0,5, lol.

game is 80% anvil rng now
>>
>>173711439
fuck 4chan wait time for each image
http://imgur.com/a/nhgvL
i will probably add more in there
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>>173711784
queueing should still work. Get a party.
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>>173711191
how is ice good vs fire. shouldnt it be the other way
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>>173712118
Ice is water
and water>fire
r u dumb?
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>>173711898
so much changed

i had 4.6k HP last night. now 10k
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just to make things clear.

fist one is zaibas, second one is fencer's sept etoiles.

Zaibas increases number of hits per level, Sept is fixed 8 hits.

Zaibas damage is always 333% MATK, while each level gives you more hits (up to 19 at lv 15).

Sept Etoiles is always 8 hits, while each level increases the % scalling

87% lv1 up to 190,6%* 8 hits at Lv 15.

I'm missing something?
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>pole of agony
>value = 208 + 0 × ([Skill Level] - 1)
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>>173711439

mia, we already have all vlaues on ktest neet. now do something actually useful little girl: test damage without rng gear (like magic amp) with agny ON and agny OFF
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>>173711439
Check pixel of agony >>173712325
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>>173712276
Yeah IMC is retarded and cant balance for shit
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This event sucks balls.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjjgjK0kc7k

some guy testing dex attackspeed and crit damage
looks p good actually
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>>173712416
maybe

>Attributes
>>
>Can't do donnes mission event because the only thing I can kill is in missions or those hell cave dungeons.
>>
>>173712175
fire melts ice
>>
>>173713231
And then ice becomes water and thats better than fire
>>
EARTH WAVE LV 15 = 199,4%

BALESTRA FENTE LV 5 = 602%

DETHRONE LV 5 = 742%

SKYLINER = 305,2% (two hits, probably still doubles on bleeding)

Assuming the base damage is gone, what the fuck?
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>>173713370
Then fire becomes smoke and smoke kills our atmosphere. Checkmate.
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https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/204103
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>>173713524
Meanwhile Hail 15/15 is fucking 803%
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>>173713524
Have you seen the fucking new weapons yet?

just look at these values
dethrone will hit for big damage too
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Ohhh nice
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>>173713717
>Stats
>ATK;MATK
Shit's broke yo
>>
>>173713524
Apparently Earth Wave (and Doom Spike) deal 5 true multihits now, Dethrone 2.
>>
Man monks are going to be so fucking good
>>
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20910

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20605
>>
THRUST>>>>>>>COMPOSEE LOL
>>
>>173708439
Do they expect the new STR and Crit Rate changes to make the new rapiers better than Venier/Lolo/Solmiki?
Looks like Sissel still offers the same crit rate that the purple 315 has, but less than the orange 315. These others new rapiers also mainly add crit rate too.
>>
>>173714491
On KR lowping only though :p
>>
>just put in random numbers who cares LOL
t. IMC
>>
Do all bracelets have 1 magic defense now? Seems weird.
>>
>>173714261
Wow so they made a rank 6 skill deal twice the damage of a rank 8 skill that requires 100 corpses and has the area of a fireball if it doesn't hit and kill your shoggoth.

Kim sure knows shit about balance.
>>
Is this good?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a2a325563.112b35435a6a75.1121334555.112a31415a617581
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>>173714808
neets (ktest) has broken damage/defense values.

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/113302
>3-3
but it is 498-551 see >>173711898
>>
>>173715067
>is this autistic cookie cutter overused nigger build good?
>>
>>173714491
Composee hits 2 times though
>>
>>173715074
Would you be able to see what the 315 rapiers' values are?
>>
>>173715067
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a2a345561.112c36415a6a75.1121334555.162a315875
Fixed distribution a bit.
>>
>>173715334
probably not
cant farm the recipes now and not many players there
will keep eyes open for high lvl fencers / well gear'd ppl / shout
>>
when are these fucking faggots at imc going to fix their load glitches its been like this since the fucking game came out
>>
Multishoit from archer seems the only really balanced skill. Hitcount fixed to 10, low scalling...
>>
>>173715074
Weapon stats are all fucked up. They changed how damage is calculated.
>>
>>173715392
Thank you! Is the beak mask really that bad?
>>
>>173715532
Can you please Heart of Glory and Skull Smasher?

>>173715738
Yes, it has very bad uptime and Bloodletting cover most of the debuffs already since very little are rank3.
I'd only consider 1 point in Fumigade, but it will ever be of any use.
>>
Looking at stuff, it looks like Sacrament has +1 holy attack per Spr now unless I'm misreading it. Also Pardoner increase magic defense lost Spr scaling but is now percent based?
>>
>double punch: 425% x 2
>>
>>173715980
>Can you please Heart of Glory and Skull Smasher?
Will try, if there is anyone with that. Probably not. Market kinda empty and rare to see people with purple 315s
>>
>803% hail<
>>
>>173713653
Blocking out the sun with smoke cools the planet, allowing ice to spread.
>>
TOS right now:
>Meme builds
>Trans > Everything
>Silver > Everything

TOS after rebalance
>Silver > Everything
>Anvils > Trans
>Meme's secondary

Get ready to grind Saalus for the next year until the servers are empty.
>>
>>173716492
>potentially amazing update
>we barely know anything
>already doomposting
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>Chaplain Magnus exorcism Skill factor 125%
>>
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20202
Doesn't ice (s)pike hit 3 times? Why's it x6?
>>
>>173716615
They fucking hate us Chaps and I don't know why.
>>
>>173716630
It hits twice per charge.

2 x 3 charges.
>>
Can someone post Doppel, Barbarian, Highlander and Dragoon skill %?
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>lv 15 earthquake + lethargy + joint penalty
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>>173716630
>>173716896

I think something changed. And no, depends on the mob size. With proper positioning, ice pike can do 4 hits on bosses
>>
>>173714105
What makes you say that? I don't keep up with the updates other than, apparently, they're making strength really good and dex useless.
>>
Quick Cast dmg atribute is gone
>>
>>173717516

425% damage double punch boy. And it hits twice.
>>
>>173717604
What was it before? Didn't it always hit twice?
>>
>>173717516
Their multipliers are really nice
no more reduce damage from leather
they have no cooldown spammed spells while all the attack values increased everywhere for everything
>>
No, seriously. That shit wasn't needed. We could keep the game "flat based" with a few changes here and there and some % mod on some skills (like already happened to cata, per example), fix transcedenceand we would be good. We will end up with more useless skills than before, like Ragnarok.
>>
>>173717764

Yes but flat bonus. Like 725 attack at lv 15.
>>
>>173716897
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills?cls=Char1_9&f=1
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills?cls=Char1_6&f=1
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills?cls=Char1_2&f=1
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills?cls=Char1_15&f=1

You can always just manipulate the tosgbase url by adding -ktest or -kr instead of having to navigate through the Korean.
>>
DEX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtshsLOoMbM
>>
>>173717910
Thanks, but I suck at math so this isn't helpful to me but thank you anyway.
>>
guys you can just browse the skill planner

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#11222666h

even if it's korean, class icons and skill icons are the same
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Since even boots will have armor, should I just go and sell my Windrunners while I can? Because new boots will have both Magical and Physical defense and if I try to wear these Windrunners, it just won't cut it anymore right?
>>
>>173717797
They need to work on the concept of differing builds and make more skills affected by different stats and add a few more skills in general that do different things.
>>
>>173718273
Oh that's much easier than what I was doing, nice.
>>
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#2134449fe.1321354551.13253542.1f334a516575.22354375.15243551.1133455185

my build is filled with dogshit low % now, top kek this flesh cannon mod.

Also, what the fuck is this second % scaling on psychic pressure?
>>
>>173718297
3 Speed lad.
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>>173718273
So they aren't going to change attributes around to fit? Like for instance Highlanders 50% more crit attack on 2H? Because they should as H1 isn't going to be the filler it used to anymore. This might mean every sword is going to ignore pelt and high C1 entirely and go for sword C2 for Restrain now and even Gung Ho scales amazingly. This is just too much.
>>
>>173712416
>>173712851
hmmm

http://imgur.com/a/YZEwR
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>>173718273
>level Seism
>nothing happens
oh no
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>>173718624
lmao i cant stop laughing at these freshcannon multipliers

>the higher the skill
>the lower the multiplier
wow imc
truly ur the greatest mind of all times
>>
>>173718675
>Gung Ho scales amazingly
>(([Character MINPATK] + [Character MAXPATK]) / 2) × (0.01 × [Skill Level])
>0.01
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>>173718827
pyros on fucking suicide watch
>>
Swift step add flat 150 crit rate stat now

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/attributes/301018
>>
>>173712416
Wait, are the balance changes already applied to ktest?
>>
>>173718827
shieeeeeeeeeeeet
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What does this mean?
>>
>>173716416
Millions of years of ice age will crack the planetarian platforms, causing vulcanic catastrophes and also causing massive world scale storms
>>
>>173719296
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>
Lemme guess.

They somehow made zombie bokors even worse.
>>
Who here have /futureproof/ build
>>
>>173719296
I don't know, I can't read saturn runes.
>>
>>173719246
yes

they probably will change/re-balance a lot. dont kys yet and dont theorycraft to much
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spoopy
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>>173719296
Seems to increase the damage you do by 33%. No need to get hit either to stack up and doesn't reduce your defenses. Not sure what the 19% is.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftos-ktest.neet.tv%2Fskills%2F11001
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>mfw magic missile is good Malleus Maleficarum again
>>
>>173719296
It means Doppel is a shit class again. See >>173719358
>>
>>173719296
Doppels btfo so fucking hard

>yfw fletchers and monks will be top world dps now
>>
MY NEW MEMEBUILD. PSYCHOKINO 3 FOR RAISE, THEN ELEMENTALIST 2 FOR HAIL AND METEOR.

JESUS CHRIST THAT HAIL. ONE SHARD ONE KILL
>>
Did they fix transpose?
>>
>>173719650
Maybe the 19% is another bonus damage. Maybe you gain it by getting it, maybe no. Who knows.
>>
>>173719647
Oh god.
>>
>>173719829
I think it means if you want to make a Doppel you can ignore Deed's completely which means 15 more points to delicious other skills.

>mfw Zornhau is a 800% x 4 skill
>>
How are Mikos now? Their Kagura was a little absurd before and Hamaya was good Frost cloud too.
>>
>>173719990
Literally no change, seems like they forgot abotu Miko.
>>
>ASPERSION 352%

CHAPLAIN STRONK
>>
>>173719252
>>173719023
weak weapon tho

and we dont know dmg of all classes/skills on high lvl + gear chars atm

>Ball L10 168%
>FG Lv4 120%
>FP L5 225%
>FW L10 287%
maybe not bad
>>
>TREE OF MULTIHITS
>>
>>173719494
Me and my gud build. Every time something gets shit, something else becomes amazing.
>>
>>173720108
>>173719990

Hanaya was nerfed. It's 97% per hit. used to be 100% + flat base damage. Just in comparison, FC is 152%. But it seems that QC attribute for more damage is gone
>>
>>173719972
But muh thematic Landsknecht!
>>
>>173720227
its been that since day1
>>
>>173720134
>500 holy prop attack from sac w/ spirit
>500 more from last rites
>Blessing affected by skill multipliers now

OUT OF THE WAY PEASANTS
>>
>look at Cannoneer %
>1300%
>1345%
>2300%

Couple this with the fact that Appraiser will be able to make your cannon +5 for free at any given time. Which will be insane with the new enhancement rework.
>>
Druid changes anyone?
>>
>These Thaumaturge changes

Am I reading this right?

It's not 50% of your int + a base amount as damage +1% more per attribute level (50% more max).

Nigga I'm going to be giving people almost 2000 bonus atk/matk with two fucking buffs.
Even Swell Brain looks good now, it's 45 int, +30% skill damage +1% more int per attribute (50 max).
>>
>>173719494
wu gu shi
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=69&v=DjjgjK0kc7k
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>>173719296
From +150% attack to +33% with maxed stacks :^)
>>
>>173720479
Did they fix transpose? ;_; That's all I need.
>>
Deeds is 33% base + 19% per stack famalam
>>
>Meteor is 2000% Matk
sweet jesus elememe is back

meanwhile
>rune of destruction
>628%
lmfao
>>
>>173720479

>800 Base int
>+50% from swell brain brings it to 1200
>50% of this is converted into damage to both swell left and right arms (1200 total) plus about 150 and 80 base from both for a total of 1430 attack/magic attack
>Attributes now give +1% more int scaling per level
>This means it's 100% of your int on both buffs, so 2400 + 150 + 80 = 2630 attack/magic attack

Hoooooooly shit IMC. What the fuck are you doing?
>>
>>173720479
sounds nice

but at Lv176 and with a +5 no-gem no-weaponBuffed PurpleRod from HG i have 1380matk already

2k p/m attack will not be a lot at 330
>>
>>173720706
That's still only 318% total and you gotta get hit. Have fun being hit while taking 318% more damage famalam. Meanwhile >>173720479
>>
>attaque coquille stronger than balestra fente

you can't take those numbers seriously. They just typed anything so see if the multiply works. I'm most sure tomorrow will have different values already
>>
>>173720754
>sweet jesus elememe is back
Have you checked Hail yet?
>>
>>173720835
You do realize you no longer get bonus points? Base INT even if you go full INT will only reach above 300 at best.
>>
>>173720882
>>173720835
>>
Something to consider: they said they want to keep old skills useful at end game. It seems that they forgot to re-add the skill base damage. If you consider current numbers + old skill base damage, shit would make much more sense.
>>
>>173720970
>804% for 20 seconds
ELE-MEME-IS-BACK

Also Quick Cast will still be 50% too. Hail at level 15 is fucking 900%. Frost Cloud is only 150%, but I have this feeling that Frost Rune will now increase it's damage.
>>
>>173721051
Yeah tehy kept old skills useful by making them stronger than new skills
>>
>flesh cannon 15 is now 100%*16
Sasuga IMC, necro is now even more shit than before!
>>
Come back to the game after a year just to be reminded why i left. After 20 minutes in the queue amount of players ready to start decreased. How do you cope with this shit, anons?
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>>173721008
8 base
+329 from lvls
+gear

5 INT (Agny) gives me 10 m.attack
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>>173720448
Carnivory 234% skill factor.

Werewolf skills 600 fucking percent with divine might, with the damage using the sum of your magic+physical attack.
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>>173719224
Sounds bretty good since a % wouldn't be as good now that we don't have base crit.
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>>173721008

I'm still getting about 350 int then. +45 from swell brain +50% from the passive brings it to 570 (assuming percentage is first then flat after).
570 x 2 + 230 = 1370 bonus damage plus I do 30% additional skill damage and this is applied to an entire party.

I'll take it given damage in general is reduced.
>>
>Deed's % doubled

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>173721190

>It's literally worse than fireball

The fuck is IMC doing?
>>
>>173721218
13 INT (HG boots) give 31
18 INT (agny+boots) give 46
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>>173721459
Everyone hates necros, so who cares?
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>>173721539

>Sorcerers can summon 15 bats
>They do 440% damage each

Yeah, I guess this is what Necromancers get for afking for years at bees.
>>
>>173721316
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/10303
Finestra increased from 150 to 200
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>>173721754
Sorcs were the ones macroing at bees. Necro 2 was just an add on.
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>Pyro2 Link2 Thaum3
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Did they change transpose? Google translate says it changes intelligence to "physical strength".
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>>173721051
They aren't bringing back skill base damage, they caved and decided to make all skills purely percent based and get their bases from equips.
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>>173722087
and

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/skills/20504
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20504
unchanged
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>>173722115

They will give base damage back. Otherwise it's just better to go full rank 3 builds like hl 3 barb 3
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>These new weapon stats

I pity any of you wizards who got a mace.

315 purple rod has like 1100 magic attack. (Orange is 1200)
Skull Smasher only has 977. Purple 315 mace is even less at below 900.
>>
>>173722204
Can you test to see if it replenishes HP as it increases? ;_;
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>>173722316
When you transcend a mace, do both the magic and phys attack go up by 20% or is it 10% to each for total 20% boost?
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>>173721223
muh dick
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>>173721364
b-but my pyro is stronger!
stop pushing away my f-fireballs you c-cuck!
>>
>>173722239
Not necessarily, there's still utility for taking c1s.
>>
They've added new rank 8 gear too. Looks like at least 3 weapons (white, blue, purple) for levels 300 and 315 of each weapon type. And a new set of armor for each type at these levels.

They finally added 315 purple/orange rapiers too. But they're shit.
>>
thauma3ele3
calling it now
>>
If enhance attributes are supposed to be .5% per level, why's everythig like: value = (value + value × Enhance Level] × 0.01) ?

Isn't that still 100%?
>>
Weapon stats are fixed on tosneet I think
>>
>>173722383
later
need a class lvl for it (and other stuff)
>>
>>173722802
Literally impossible.
>>
>>173722974
fuck
but am I seeing it right that swell brain increases matk by up to 30%?

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20507
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>>173722969
Add 1 point of con and see if it replenishes your hp. Or any con gear should do.
>>
>>173722814
Yeah this looks retarded. They are still testing things probably.
>>
>>173723069
That's also 30% physical attack. Thauma's are going to be more important than fucking Chronos now.
>>
>>173723069

It's suppose to yeah. Knowing IMC we'll get +30 matk or something dumb.
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>677% every half second (1354% with maxed attribute)
>defense reduced by 25%
>critical chance increased by 40%
>duration 35 seconds
This is okay
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>>173723097
Any +hp gear really.
>>
>>173723156
r9 when
thaum3chrono3 when
>>
>>173722854
defense too

nice
>>
>>173723191
Hunter is now a full dps class.
>>
>>173723191

Hunter is basically going to become a 1v1 PVP god. Shit's insane.
>>
>hovering lvl 15
sweet mother of god
>>
>>173722316

viena mace still stronk
>>
>>173723656

Rod is still significantly better for wizards.
>>
I'm just glad full con clerics won't spit out insane damage anymore in pvp
>>
>event gives free exp tomes

It's per account or per character?
>>
>>173722420
Mace main stat is now both patk and matk, so both get 20%
>>
>>173723892
the bloom event?
per acc I presume since it counts all your characters runs
>>
>>173723369

hunter is already 1vs1 pvp god. they can kill a 100k hp sage with perma cc pet
>>
>>173723892
>https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=925
>These rewards can only be received once per account.
>>
...what?
SkillFactor:
if [Character ClassName] == 'PC'
atkType = [Skill AttackType]
attribute = [Skill Attribute]
atkTypebyItem = GetSumOfItemStats(atkType)
attributebyItem = GetSumOfItemStats(attribute)
sklFactor = 200 + ([Skill Level] - 1) × 0 + atkTypebyItem + attributebyItem
return RoundDown(sklFactor)
else
sklFactor = 200 + ([Skill Level] - 1) × 0
return RoundDown(sklFactor)
end
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>rim and umbo blow both are 500+% multipliers at lvl 15

I really wonder how this will interact with the murmillo/high guard increase
>>
>>173724005
>>173724037

God. Can't decide now my new r8 girl
>>
>>173724230
it means my other useless swordie is rerolling into a pelt rode murmillo, for free
>>
>>173724230

It's says 15% per level. so 150% for pelt skills. How it was before?
>>
>>173724452
oh
right now its actually 40%

I guess its to balance it out since its going to be multiplying the 500% damage (I hope)
>>
Anyone else notice that bee spawning has been severely nerfed? Found a farm with no grim reapers and the bees spawn at a very lwo rate now.
>>
>>173724230
>>173724452

Oh shit
Murm is not needed in peltnobi builds then?

The 150% is not worth it
you just get pelt3rod3 and shinobi and got yourself a nice burster
>>
prediction for new pvp meta

wiz3linker is back baby
>200% scaling on magic missiles
>no more mdef cuckery
>>
>>173725127

new meta is literally raise hail meteor, don't even need ele3 so you can pick sage
>>
>>173725127
>pvp meta
Nobody currs
>>
>>173725127
Any class r3 > any class r3 > any class r2
>>
Why does DopC3 2 new skills have such shit scaling? I thought later circle skills were going to become better, not worse. IMC man.
>>
>>173725257

kys solmiki faggot
>>
>>173724091
If character is a player character then damage dealt=magic attack+physical attack (including all enhancements on items) x (100+100x[level of lycanthropy-1])
>>
>no pardoner competition in fedi ch1
>suddenly, the resident kike overprices his buffs at 900s
>>
OOB true multihit now?
>>
>>173725809
God forbid people make money on their Pardoners. Seriously who cares the buffs last over an hour and you make that much for killing a single mob.
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>new Frenzy is another % increase in physical that stacks with Deed's
This meta writes itself!
>>
Magic arrow = 244%*25.
>>
>>173726013
Sapper is the new meta.
>>
>>173726013
Carnivore 234%*50. Get rekt.
>>
Finally every build is viable if you pick their 3rd circle
>>
>wugushit has no % scaling
top kek lmao hahaha
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>>173726287
>Sapper
>ever being meta
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Uhmmmm
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>>173720425
Look at musketeer.
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>>173725964
Gas yourself
>>
>>173726394
/tosg/ on suicide watch!
>>
>quickcast is a +50% on your 200% now (so 250%)

finally fixed
>>
Will element property attack still add and get multiplied with attack? Will it be less relevant now that weapons have higher attack?
>>
>>173722316
my PD has a skull smasher and my pyro has a vienarazis, kill me now please
>>
>rune of destruction 400% + 2682 (rank 6)
>flesh strike 400% + 4981 (rank 8)
>meteor 400% + 3229 (rank 6)

>rune of destruction 628% (rank 6)
>flesh strike 980% (rank 8)
>meteor 2145% (rank 6)

how did they screw up this badly
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>>173726789
That doesn't seem worth taking C3 for.
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some low mobs buffed
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57450
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/npcs/57450

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57447
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/npcs/57447

https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57912
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/npcs/57912

High Mobs nerf'd
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/npcs/58564
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58564

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/npcs/58563
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/58563
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>>173727243
But why?
>>
>>173727314
Because FUCK BEE FARMERS
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>>173727314
maybe to 'balance' around new gear-stats and skill-stats
and cause ppl cry about high mobs

and ofc to fuck necros
>>
>>173727050
And flesh strike still uses 100 corpses. Top kek. Necro is probably the worst class on the wizard tree now.
>>
>>173727174

MM is okay, sleep 15 is retarded, energy blast + missile is also great now. Plus +50% on everything and fast casting
>>
>>173727448
How are Skeletons though? They get +1 def/attack per Spr point now or something don't they?
>>
Needle Blow ticks for 405%
Wugong Gu ticks for 960%
Throw Gu Pot ticks for 608%

Wugushi confirmed top tier?
>>
>gather corpse 900%

this is the new shit boys, 3 overheats
>>
>>173727621

check again senpai. it's literally your atk *0,5 +405 flat
>>
>>173727562
Someone will have to try that in practice. But Spr is by far the shittiest stat after the changes too, since they also removed mdef from it. Maybe they adjusted some skills to make better use of it, but I can't tell.
>>
>>173727729
>Snipe 3000%

kek
>>
let's say I'm making a mrumillo

I already have a 2x red gem viena mace. Will this be good for my murm?
>>
>>173727621
It's not a %.
>>
>>173727885
Sacrament gets +1 holy attack power per Spr and Blessing iw now affected by skill modifiers. The magic defense on Spr was never important, just 0.2 per point.

If Elemental attack is affected by multipliers Spr buff builds will be very strong I think.
>>
>>173727985
RIP wugushi. Their reign was short.
>>
Event dungeon kicks me to character selection regardless of channel i'm trying to enter from. Am i fucked?
>>
>>173728141
Yes. Just lost 3 runs in a row.
>>
>>173728141
It is doing that to everyone. We got IMC'd once again.
>>
>>173728243
Is this a recurring thing? Haven't played in a while.
>>
>>173727968
Murm will be shit with the coming patch

It was only good for its high base damage values and multipliers to old skills

I wouldnt invest a single point into murm attribtues but I think we get attribute points back anyways so who cares
>>
>>173728316
No it's just the new event.
>>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>The increasing time does not exceed 20 seconds.
>The increasing time does not exceed 20 seconds.
>The increasing time does not exceed 20 seconds.
>>
>>173728329

Oh I'm not caring about a patch that will come only at christmas. Even so, I doubt current number on ktest will stay that way. Regardless, the weapon I already have, I will just skip crista's attributes then
>>
>>173728657
>will just skip crista's attributes then
Why? You'll get refunded
>>
>>173728316
They fucked up something during the maintenance. If you try to enter a dungeon/siaulai/saalus/etc, most of the time the game will get stuck during loading and send you back to the character selection screen. It will proceed to shit the bed if you try to re-enter too.
>>
>>173719494
Yeah I've had my build since day 1 and it has yet to become shit.
>>
Quicken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1KgBi9ats8
>>
>Had no problem doing the missions this morning
>lol emergency main, we need to "fix" something
>Missions/dungeons ruined, several dead channels, and IMC proceeds to fuck off and act like everything is fine for the rest of the week

T-Thanks...
>>
>>173729565

>no skill used

give back my 40 seconds. I want to see turbo skill rotations
>>
>>173729967
it means Corsair will be fucking good, especially with 1H weapons all getting buffed
>>
>>173727243
>Finally addressed the Blue Spion Archers
>Realized that not every fucking mob in the 300+ range needs to be an elite one with a quarter million HP
>Bees doubled in EXP

Good
>>
>>173729565
>auto attacks

ICBT is over and we can now get past Lv 1xx
>>
>>173726450
That's been a thing forever.
And it is HILARIOUS.
>>
Fleshcannon will be so fucking shit wtf IMC WTF maayne
It makes no sense
Whats so bad about this fucking skill

ITS JUST BARELY BETTER THAN A LVL 5 ENERGY BOLT
>>
>>173730024
Autoattacks will never be good unless they get a retarded multiplier like the 200% from Running Shot.
>>
>>173730134
>Bees doubled in EXP
You know that probably means an increase in silver too right?
>>
>>173730347

the only explanaition is that base damage will be back. lv 15 flesh cannon is (matk+2.2 iirc) +100% from the mod = very good damage. But lv 5 one will be shit (matk+1.2k) +66%
>>
>>173730347
get fucked necrofaggot
>>
>>173730560
>he only explanaition is that base damage will be back
Nah, the only explanation is that they fucked up the numbers
>>
>>173727889
Running Shot attack speed nerfed from 30% to 10% to compensate for DEX scaling.
>>
>>173730515
have you been to bees today? the spawn rate already has been nerfed, it's pitifully slow
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It's funny everyone tells IMC "I don't want my earlier skills to fall off to uselessness at higher ranks" and what they hear is "I want skills I can get access to within hours of starting to be the best. Forever."

And act on that.

How the fuck did anyone feel encouraged when IMC announced they be doing this shit
>>
>>173730560
No no my naive friend

its not +(plus) 100%
its just 100% of your magic attack
AT LVL 15 ONLY

and the attributes max out at 50%...
>>
>>173730716
It's always lower right after maintenance.
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>>173730735
>I want skills I can get access to within hours of starting to be the best. Forever.
Like?
>>
@Dmn

shields on ktest neets all show 1 pdef
please fix
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>cryomancer 500+% snowrolling
>runecasters face when
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>>173730347
Maybe they fixed and buffed decay.
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>>173730735
The unfunny thing is they didn't make some of the R8 skills scale better. For skills you get at R8. Who is going to invest any silver into these if they cost 600x more silver?
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>>173731008

will be 800% with the rune. ISA is not true final damage
>>
I got an advanced abrasive from that event. what do i do with it and is it any good?
>>
>>173730560
They purposely killed necros because everyone hates them.
>>
Oh, Running Shot not only got its attack speed nerfed.

The damage now scales from 80% to 200% instead of 40% to 200%. This means you get 260% with a +2 crossbow instead of 280%
>>
>>173731008
>They'll never make it so the more you pick up, the stronger it gets

One job, IMC.
>>
ele3 and kino3 have really high numbers and good amount of hits
dunno what IMC is thinking
>>
>>173730981
zaibas
>>
>>173731539
Shaking up the meta.
>>
>>173728329
Swordsman in general doesn't seem to have good multipliers at all. Best you see is 700% in a skill.
>>
>>173731661

>shaking up

both classes are very good already if you're not a shitty player
>>
>>173731668
Yup
Meanwhile archers will be absolute dps beasts
>>
>>173731718
After you nerf agny, sure.
>>
>>173731668
Doppelwhales on suicide watch.
>>
>>173731115
>>173731008
>will be 800% with the rune. ISA is not true final damage

Did you guys not notice this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/21302
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/21302

>150%
Rune of Ice was cut in half.
>>
>snipe 3000%
>skarphuggning is 700% x 6 with two overheat and arrow stacking mechanic is gone
Praise your hakka overlords
>>
Is there an easier way to get to Fedimian than just walking all the way there? I hit level 100 and I want to get started on doing missions (whatever that is) but my map progress is only to gateway.
>>
>>173731718
Kino is only good in PvP, Elementalist is currently garbage.
>>
>>173731216
It's to level up gems with.
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>>173731880
>700% x 6 with two overheat
Jesus
>>
>>173731917
Elementalist isn't even bad, Warlock is bad and elementalist isn't as blatantly OP as Pyro so wizfags who can't handle not being bullshit OP write it off.
>>
>>173731894
Don't you get event tele scrolls?
>>
>>173731668
Every build has like at least 2 self buffs + other hidden tricks and combos. 700% will become 1400% pretty much all the time
>>
>>173731880
>ignoring lvl 10 covering fire
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555egg....1a27314a5171
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>>173731880
>arrow stacking mechanic is gone

Max out your bodkins, barbfags.
>>
>>173732096
Except Elementalist can't carry ET and Pryo can easily with a tiny fraction of the investment. Shut the fuck up retard, play the game.
>>
>>173732096
>1 single good spell
>doesn't even hit flying
>no multipliers so scales badly

>>173732194
>342%
Meh, considerign it had a natural 150% and that Buttstroke went from +100% to +30% Musketeers got kinda fucked.
>>
>>173732257
>not maxing both

step it up anon
>>
>full DEX
>yellow level 7 gems everywhere
>ellaganoses everywhere
KILEL ME
>>
Does stuff that say x% * y times really just do x% y times or is it (x% * y times)per every hit?
>>
>>173732097
Oh right. I had completely forgotten I had any of those.
>>
>>173732097
wait wtf I cant get to fedimian if I've never been there before, using a tp scroll.
>>
>>173732391
Okay see. What you do is, you get a 5 hammer, right? and you fill it with crit rate gems. Then you take your dagger and upgrade that. Then you stab so damn fast that you don't even need skills.
>>
Saalus runs 6/8.
290 rushes: 4/12.

Possible gains: 910k + saalus variable

what I got: 440k, all those saalus runs who worked were mission/lake


F U C K Y O U M R K I M
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>>173732298

>element can't carry et

wut m8

FC still kill shit like npnp with stage 5 staff
link meteor fixes the rest (agny, of course)
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>>173732740
Stop being a lazy faggot who wants to skip the game and just run there.
>>
>>173733105
okay dad. sorry.
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>>173733009
FC is weaker than Fireball and Flame Ground, and has a longer CD.
>>
Serious question, where do people get their bot programs? I am tired of being left out and want to abuse my warlock as much as possible.
>>
>>173733009
ET as in Solmiki, not 5F.
>>
>>173733994
>laughing swaaz.jpg
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>>173733994
how do you zoom out like that.
>>
>>173733994
That's a thing now?
What are the effects?
>>
>>173734298
illegal hack addons

zoomyplus / zplus
it is or was in the manager in OP and is legal, like almost all of them
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>>173734379
>>173733994
they are everywhere and not rare or anything. all or most monster types.
looks like double HP, much more dmg.
can do debuffs, i seen weaken defense and shock
maybe use skills to fuk you over

beefamers not gonna like that
>>
FAST
https://youtu.be/OPN57fe_u2A
>>
>>173734935
>auto attacks
>DEX makes like no difference
>>
Good night /tosg/. Looks like game is going to go from being idon'tknowfamalam to omgwhatsnowmymeta !
>>
>The dead channel thing is also applying to TBL as well

I just want my fucking panda points, kim. Why do you do this to me.
>>
>>173734041

everything is weaker than pyro except full stacked doppel. but this not mean that other shit can't do the job.

>>173734117
40f, retard. both silute and orsha's iirc first 40f were done with elememers
>>
>>173735968
>40f were done with elememers
Yeah, getting carried.
Definitely not carrying.
>>
Scout c3 is futureproof.

I want to believe.
>>
Ranger has a 0 CD extra high critical rate skill 461% skill plus barrage is a fucking monster now
>>
>>173736203
Split Arrow SP cost went up from 37 to 62 SP.
>>
>>173736510
Everything has higher SP cost, even Bash.
>>
>>173736510
Bounced arrow scales with skill level now so that's fine.
>>
>>173735968
40F is a boss floor, elememe is irrelevant there
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SPARTANS, WHAT IS YOUR NEW META PROFESSION?

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333444c.12233555.1929324a5167718195.3f4f5a75.1123334573
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>hunting grounds 315 staff has the same mattack as purple pract staff

Seriously, IMC?
>>
>>173737131
>new
>>
>>173737131
I'll become a hakkapalle again.
>>
>>173737361


does it have the same int? int is massive now fan
>>
For some reason when I get on my character I'm sent back to character select screen.
>>
>>173737519

The hunting grounds staff has 22 less int but has 110 more mamp. It's not just the staff, the 315 purples in general have the same stats as the pract weapons. The fuck is the point of wasting a pract on them then?
>>
>>173737697
Purple practs are guaranteed 2 slots.
Good luck rolling 2 slots on a hunting grounds 315.
>>
>>173737697
>>173737361
>>173737847
there are blue and purple 270+315 HG items.
maybe the purple are rare drop? and blue are common(and suck)
>>
>>173737979
>>173737847

The slot is really a issue. +180 matk from a third slot is huge now that trans is tamed and everything %%%
>>
>>173736653
I guess I'll really have to reset my fencer into something else.
>>
>>173738272

thrust spam + composee for burst
>>
>>173738175
>>173738175
HAHAHAHAHA WIZKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH ALREADY

CLERICS SHITTING THEMSELVES
>>
>>173738320
Composee now costs 169 SP, it was 80 before and fencers already chug SP pots like there's no tomorrow.
>>
>all these retards who rolled pyro getting hit the hardest
lmfao archer and sword new meta, enjoy becoming an eleshitter or selling your orange weapons or passing them to now 1000x more better cleric PD2 builds LMFAO
>>
>>173737361
All the purple 315 HG stuff have the same main stat as the pract purples.
>>
>>173738476

that's why I said, thrust spam and composee for burst
>>
>>173738635
Pract was a mistake.
>>
>>173738537
>PD2
>the one class with 102% and 110% skill ratios that don't scale with skill level
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>>173738476
There's literally no way a Fencer can sustain that, especially if considering you're supposed to attack faster.

>>173738675
Probably just placeholders.
Are they even droppable yet?
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>>173738675
>>173738635
>>173737361
Pract and Purples are not meant to be great or awesome or whatever.

waiting forever for these dumb cubes was retarded from the beginning.
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>>173738537
this

hope you didnt make a staff or skull basher like a retard because staff is locked to wizshit and the mace is going to be nerfed
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What rank should I leave Snipe on for Musk 2?
Someone told me to not max it.
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>>173738835

I hope they're placeholders. If not the last set of HG items were heavily nerfed so maybe that.
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>>173738958
I was getting cap damage with butt + lv1 snipe.
With the changes? Who knows.
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>orange prac weapons are going to be useless
>except the shield
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
CAN'T LOGIN TO MY CHAR

SOMEONE NUKED KLAIPEDA DOWN OR SOMETHING

other characters are fine but klai's 4 channel for my main are kill ffs
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>>173739232

>useless
>3 slots

that extra slot is a 20% gap already son. good luck getting a two slot HG weapon. purple pract 315 will probably be the best time/dps/money investment
>>
How much you guys think a 4 slot purple 315 will go for?
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>>173739284
All klaipeda channels in silute are crashed. Exploiters are fully active.
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>HE SPENT MILLIONS ON HIS ORANGE WEAPON
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>173739728
Doppel whale tears.
>>
Why is everyone sperging out over the Pract weapons?
What happened?
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>>173739851
>What happened?
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items?ulvlmin=315&grade=3&order=cdated&f=1
Scroll down to weapons
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>>173739798
PD2 whale tears.

>mfw my guild has 4 PD2mikoDievs with all 2x orange shield and mace with stage 7 on BOTH
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>>173739951
>transcending a shield without being a Cryo
LIterally why
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>>173739918
And how many DPK items would you need to make them?
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What's a useful class to start in a new account? Necro3 seems really dangerous, even more with the upcoming changes.
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Lol at you guys thinking this HG gear will just be common shit that replaces pract in a snap. IMC never does that, if it's on par with pract weapons it will have just as much stupid bullshit to get as pract weapons; probably a ridiculously high initial DPK.
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>>173740159
It's whatever, they are giving out class resets for the event so make something for your favorite class tree that you think is interesting.
>>
>>173740174
Anything that can be farmed is already million times better than practo weapons which you need fucking RNG luck for
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>>173740174
That's what people thought when they made 220 purples that were on par with 170 oranges.
And they drop like white commons.
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>>173740425
>2k kills for one item
>get 1 socket
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>>173740560
Are you comparing the Hunting grounds 220 weapons to 200 dung rush garbage? That stuff wasn't best in its class even when it was introduced.
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>>173740567
Still better than practo.
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>>173740567
>2k

Nah. You know what, I bet it'll be like Manahas/Keyarc leather armor; it only drops from the new "Elite" versions of mobs in the highest level hunting grounds at an extremely, extremely low chance.
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>>173740837
>I started playing after R7 maps had quests in them - the post
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>>173739728

What do orange weapons have to do with it? Orange weapons are still significantly better than HG items. The issue is that HG items and PURPLE weapons have literally exactly the same attack/mattack.
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>>173738835
I'm probably resetting my fencer into something else unless we see some changes. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot going on for fencer now that crit rate is more difficult to get AND the SP changes.
>>
>>173741063
Confused. In r7 content 200 dung rush items were the 3rd best, 2nd best were from the 280 demon lord bosses, best were Lolopanther stuff. Most people used 200 dung rush stuff because it was the easiest to get, but the game at launch had almost no gear anyway.
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>>173741278

Stats are significantly better now. The 315 orange rod has 88 int, which is not just +88 magic attack now. It's probably closer to +880.

The hunting ground weapons don't even give half of these bonuses and have less base damage. They're not even comparable to purple 315 practonium weapons in most cases.
>>
>>173740120

infinite def, and max hp
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>>173742028
Does Int give more magic attack per point now or how does that work? I thought it was just the same system except now it was (int+magic attack)(skill factor)=damage
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>>173739664

holy shit anon, send help
>>
>>173742304
It gives 2 per point and sometimes 7
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>>173742304

The amount it gives has changed. No one seems to know exactly how it works yet but some numbers people have given are 5 int giving 10 matk, 13 int giving 31 matk and 18 int giving 46 matk.
Which would suggest every point of int gives slightly more matk than the last point.
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>>173742304
other stats in
http://imgur.com/a/nhgvL
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>>173742532
There's probably some multiplier bonus like in RO.
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>>173742569
Upsetting that Spr sucks so bad, nobody really needs that much SP/SP regen and the support skills won't get that direct boost like they do now.
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>>173742913
>nobody really needs that much SP/SP regen
Well, SP costs did increase astronomically.
>>
>>173743001
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>>173742913
some skills cost a lot of SP now and have low or no CD
but yes, still a weak/useless stat

>INT only m.att
>STR only p.att and little acc
is lame too
>>
>>173743014

And attributes that change how abilities work also have percentage increases to SP costs. I've seen them as high as 30% more SP on an ability with a 190 SP cost.
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>>173742913
>nobody really needs that much SP/SP regen

think again anon
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this guy really likes his qs
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Do characters on the KTOS server have higher raw magic/physical defense then due to changes to how armor works, but it's less effective per point?
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>>173743136
I guess autoattack will be more valuable maybe?
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>>173743459
Holy crap those gems.
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>yfw oblique shot 15 is better than slip arrow5
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>>173747121
Archer 3 saved!
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