/tosg/ - Tree of Savior General

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Moment of silence for our fallen musketeers

Is this one of those games where nobody wants tanks, healers, or supports at all and its just about who does the most damage in groups?

>>173506992
I'm sure they'll get buffed like cannoneers did!

>>173507118
No, meta is 2 healers each party, and parties are of 5 people only.
Tanks are borderline useless though.

>>173507118
>Tanks
Nobody wants them.
>Healers
You don't need to be a full healer and you'll probably get ignored if you do.
>Supports
Actually wanted, but only some few cookie cutter builds are wanted. As it is quite cheap and easy to level, there are tons of those walking around so if you roll it you better have a group already.

Are Psychokino/Chrono cool?

>>173507291
>You don't need to be a full healer
What the hell does it mean?
You're either an healer or you're not.

>>173507572
Because you literally only need two ranks on Cleric to be a healer, and that's it. Nobody wants a person who all they do is heal (which some faggots think C3>P3 is a good build). You can literally be a krivtao dealing most damage and you'll still be a healer because you have cleric2.

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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4112666ih.1a2a345561.15213445.1e213e415a65.11243555.14556175

This is the first thing I'm trying when the rework comes. Some anons made donating DEX look really fun, with +damage% from storm calling and kagura it might actually make it a Good Build™.

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really makes you think

>>173506992
What's wrong with Musketeers?

>>173507864
retard

>>173508074
Definitely the worst r7+ class, if not the worst r7+ class as a whole.

>>173508228
>i'm not good as pyro so IM THE WORST

>>173508069
Skull smasher 1% drop rate from cube, 500k per reroll+1 mill worth of arti to craft. Realistically that's what it's actually worth.

>>173508274
Name a worst r7+ class then.
Musket doesn't fullfill any role better than any class.
It's supposed to be a single target focused dps but fails terribly at it because all its skills except one are single hits and getting cap damage with Transcendence is now a joke.

PYRO ONLY. CLERIC ONLY. FINAL DESTINATION.

Tell me about Alchemists, /tosg/.

>>173508382
Oracle 2. Sorc 3. There's a ton of shit worse than Musket, the class is alright.

>>173508382
Kabbalist, Templar (dead game), Featherfoot

>>173508450
alchemistic missile agny when

>>173508490
Oracle3 has its niche as a shop, oracle is a r6 class anyway.
Sorc is fucking fucking r5 lad.
I said r7+

>>173508573
>Kabbalist
1 circle wonder for PvP
>Templar (dead game)
They do what they are supposed to do
>Featherfoot
Ok this one is pretty bad too.

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>>173508186

>>173508826
Give it up, Sadhu will never return to its iCBT2 glory days.

>>173508654
I just like Musket because you get to wear a 2h weapon. It also has short CDs, which goes well with Wugushi, and cool animations.

>>173508382
alchemist 3
warlock 2

What build would you recommend for an Alchemist 3? Just for leveling until I can unlock it.

>>173509267
>alchemist 3
Does what it's supposed to do: crafting lv 15 postions.
Aclemist is r6 anyway.

>warlock 2
best low HP high density mobs farmer.

>>173509281
pyrolinker

>>173509281
Agny

>>173509385
Is that like Pyro C2 Linker C2 or some other combo? Im new to this.

>>173509481
Either that or pyro3link1.
Do you want to link more mobs or cosplay as a dragon?

>>173509519
I like both of those things but I feel like linking more is more efficient.

>>173509385
>>173509472
Is Psychokino not good?

>>173509692
Pyro is the strongest DPS in the game, and it only requires 2 early circles.

>>173509873
Yeah but is it FUN? I like the idea of mobbing stuff with Linker and using ground AoE like Pyro but I think Kino can do that too in its own way. Is the reason it scales so well because Linker can hold stuff in place?

>>173509067
What did they change on Sadhu? I actually had a Sadhu in icbt2 and I was doing a lot of damage then.

Well no one asked me.

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>>173506635
>image folder removed from the OP again

>>173510150
Pyrolinker is fun.

>>173510150
Pyro is boring as fuck but linker is fun.

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>>173507717
>Does jincan gu only trigger when monsters die?
No

>>173510291
>>173510358
Can I farm with this or do I need something more dedicated since im wasting spots on Alchemist? I just wanna go around town and make potions, gems, awakening weapon upgrades, and maybe farm materials needed for it.

>>173510150
Dont let minmax nerds rain on your parade. Kino gets the job done if you like that theme. Not everyone has to build into the perfect class combinations to play the damn game.

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CoffeeHouse is recruiting

>Itch to play games
>Install a shitload of games
>Install Tree of Savior because i want to play an MMORPG
>Remember i tried it a year ago
>Account with lvl 6 warrior
>WOOPS CAN'T BE ON THE EVENT
>Let's make a new account
>WOOPS CAN'T MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT UNLESS YOU MAKE A NEW STEAM ACCOUNT

Anything i can do? I'd like to play the game with the new account rewards, but i don't want to make a new steam account.

>>173511420
Unfortunately no. Perhaps you can start in another server and receive the rewards?

>>173511698
Already made a character on all the servers bseides the SEA ones because i kept checking for a better ping.
Got my steam account filled with games, in fact im playing Dark Souls 3 right now trying the DLC, it would be a bother to keep switching between accounts.

This is pretty fucking stupid, i'd delete my account if i could.

>>173510369
Thanks!

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Post old meme's.

What classes are META now? Thinking about leveling a second character.
>>173511420
Use another steam account, So did I.

Meta builds are boring as fuck. I regret everything for making a SR.

>>173510185
The cut the attack speed of out of body by like 90%

Tell me about SQUIRES, /tosg/. The real truth.

DPK is removed?

>>173513197
No idea but when I was doing dailies today for the event I got like 5 of those "hard to getto" orange item recipes. I think people exaggerate how hard it is to collect the mats.

>>173513197
No.

Revised Top-Down DPK System

The revised system combines DPK and drop rates in the following formula:

1 / (set DPK value – current no. of monsters defeated)

This means that, if a monster’s DPK value is 100, every time you defeat one monster the drop rate will change from 1/100 to 1/99, to 1/98 and so on. In other words, there’s a chance the monster will drop the item even before you defeat 100 of them.

Here, too, the DPK value is reset every time the item drops.

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905

>>173513197
They changed it, not removed completely.
Before you would only drop an item at the dpk kill.
Now you have 1/(dpk - kills done on channel) change to drop it every mob.
On paper it looks better, but they increased most dpk values so it actually averages even fucking worse than before.

Does the cat stalking achievement work in kToS?
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/147308

>>173513504
The updates on that link is already in effect?

>>173508603
that would give kinos a psychokinetic boner

>>173512712
But SR is fun and viable, anon.

>>173511420
Try sending IMC a ticket or something.

>>173513979
Only the dpk changes were applied last patch.
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=915

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>join guild
>"ok now go to our discord"
every fucking time.

>>173514529
FP is recruiting.
Futurecucks have no discord.

>>173514651
who cares

>>173514529
Why not? Everyone has a discord.

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>>173515285
>everyone
just like everyone has a facebook too

>>173508603
I'd rather it just exploded or fired several small shots or consumed pyrite/cryoite to become those elements, or something interesting. Like give the enemy a status effect, fuck.

Tell me about Shinobi, /tosg/.

>>173515764
they're chuuni as fuck

How do you build a KrivTao? C2-P1-K3-Miko-Tao? Also how do you play Tao? The explode papers thing confuses me. I'm going reset to this once the event drops.

>>173516259
Is Tao still expensive to play?

>>173516259
c1 k3 c2 miko p1 tao
the only skills you ever use from tao are rain charm and the afk charm

>>173516728
INT/CON or Full CON?

>>173515285
WHAT IS THE POINT OF USING AN EXTERNAL CHAT WHEN THERE'S ONE IN GAME??

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>>173515764
>>173515912 is correct.

>>173516728
So I'll just throw storm>zaibas then hamaya to melt bosses?

>>173516837
No one cares because all you will ever do is hold melstis

INT if you want to do dailies quicker
CON if you want to be more reliable when melstis is down at endgame content

>>173516870
Maybe because some people aren't playing 24/7?

>Every class is shit unless you farm Saalus 500 times.
Wow, what a great game!

>>173517212
>I just reach the cap I must be a god now
Is this your first mmo?

>>173517212
Every class except Wugu

>>173517212
chrono, melstis and kagura slut all work with 0 days of saalus

>>173517183
then why the fuck would I need to be in contact with you? I join a guild to talk about the game, not epic posts on reddit that you saw or how your last League of Faggots game went.

>>173517078
Yes but Hayama first and throw a cure too last.

>>173517302
Farming an orange weapon should be enough, yes.

>>173517212
Some classes are shittier than others.

Is a Chaplain-Miko-Inquisitor viable or will I never get a Solmiki party unless I'm a Diev or Kriv?

>>173517347
Are u fucking retarded or smth? People use it to call someone who's offline, to make an announcement for example.

>>173517585
if it has diev it should be fine, if it doesn't then you're relying on having a krivis diev on your team and they're rare

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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?

>>173517585
>chaplain
It's shit.
>going SPR with miko
Double shit.

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>>173517795
Wugufwee!

>>173517795
I'm playing Wugu Musket though.

give me the best budget wugushi build that doesn't need a practo weapon or transcendance or a considerable investment into attributes to be good, I only want it to have another 290 + saalus slave so it doesn't need to be really good, just to be able to carry a bit

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>>173517212
DELET

Someone explain to a new person why Wugushi is all hyped up. I looked at its skills and nothing jumped out to me. Why cant I just shoot arrows and not deal with gimmicks?

>>173518705
Wugushi is shit. SHIIIIIIIIIT.

>>173518705
Well, you can, just play Fletcher.

>>173518863
But people told me fletcher is bad times.

>>173518705
Just play Fletcher, you only need to combo Magic Arrow and Bodkin with the occassional Divine Machine Arrow against strike weak enemies.

Is there any reason I should choose a Fencer or a doppel over a dragoon? I'm not that funded but from any facet of existence, I can't imagine a fencer or doppel being superior at all.

>>173518423
Archer 2 Ranger 1 Wugu 3 Scout Mergen

Scout is a nice padding for flare shot

>>173518705
It's 2 shitposters together. Wugu is insanely terrible and does very small damage. Imagine having an orange tier weapon and seeing 2k dots on monsters. It's such a waste of a circle and somehow these anons think their 2k and 3k dots matter.

>>173518984
I mean Barbed Arrow, not Bodkin.

>>173518705
it's because only there this was one wugushi who was overgeared and played the game on easy mode because his poisons did 30,000 damage a tick and now he's trying to sell his class to everyone even though he doesn't even play anymore

>>173519186
Why would you ever take Scout here instead of Rogue considering the circles you chose before it?
(Not that I would personally do either build)

>>173519394
>>173519301
So this entire general is just people back and forth trying to trick new and returning people into ruining their characters? Someone would do that, just go onto the internet and tell lies?

>>173519536
Wugushi is actually pretty great. Anyone who tells you otherwise hasn't played it. Seriously.

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>>173517212
did you fell off the stupid tree when you were a baby and your head hit every one of the stuid branches on the way down or something?
that is so old now, we hunting ground gears now.
get with the time you retarded grandpa

>>173519301
>every dps should be pyro or doppel!

>>173519536
The math doesn't like. Wugu pumps out shittons of damage and never drops off.

>>173519536
desu it's just wugu is probably one of the classes that needs the most gear investment to get a return out of it

kora needed to pump like a billion silver into her character before he could out damage everyone at world bosses. it's not a meme that wugushi does a shit ton of damage with a huge investment, but ultimately you could get better numbers with a pyro or something

>>173519764
Is it sustained or burst? What would someone play if they wanted a nice archer for quickly farming mobs but not big bosses?

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>>173519301
>Wugu is insanely terrible and does very small damage. Imagine having an orange tier weapon and seeing 2k dots on monsters.
Missinfo agents in full force.

>>173519854
Wugu mostly does sustained damage, not so much burst... but that's what your other circles are for.
You can do it all. Wugu is not a meme.

>>173518705
It's just a forced meme.

You know what? Tomorrow I'll start playing Wugushi as my second character. Hope it isn't THAT bad. I always loved playing weak classes and characters just to make them viable. Kinda masochistic.

>>173520120
>I always loved playing weak classes and characters
You won't enjoy Wugushi then, it's quite strong from Wugu c1 and onwards.

>>173520120
Play Monk then

>>173520120
Play a QS Sapper

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>>173517212
Not Pyro

>tfw I should have never quit because I could have made a video proving a burst of 1.5m damage in 5 seconds from a Wugu mergen

>>173520496
Or QS anything

ARCHER 2

RANGE 1

WUGU 3

CANNONEER 2

>>173520252
>>173520496
You want me to feel fucking useless, anon? Though I thought about monk, but don't want to play him without five hammer.

>>173519940
Those bugs look awesome now

>>173520563
What was the full build?

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You know, Tree of savior it's not a bad game after all.

>>173519940
I knew the wugu poster was you all along! 'Cos of the silly hat. Now give me that hair!

rogue female outfit is sexy

>>173520720
>>173520916
ARCHER2

RANGER1

WUGU3

ROUGUE

MERGEN

>>173520858
I wish Alchemist could do this. I actually have a Homonculus. Should I do a video where I show you how amazing my AFK farming abilities are?

Any clue on where to find this?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/35092/

>>173519940
Wugu-sama
Tell me, would Archer2/Ranger/Wugu3/Rogue/Mergen or Archer3/Wugu3/Fwee/Mergen be better?

>>173520643
What if Archer1/QS3/Wugushi3/smthidunno?

>>173521283
What would you even be getting from QS at lategame? It's a total waste.

>>173520120

>weak

Play DPS wizard that is not a pyromancer, not a fucking overpowered physical archer.

>>173508654
>PvP
opinion discarded

>>173521763
What next, will you tell me Catas are bad too?

>>173521987
No, after being buffed every other patch for a year they're somewhat decent.

Why won't the retards stop crashing Fedimian? I just want a weapon buff.

Oh, could someone explain me, why should I use arde or similar off-hand dagger if I never strike with it? Does it give me more damage passively?

>>173522254
+Elemental property damage adds that number to all your damage lines.

Archer2 Sapper2 > Wugu2 Cannon2 or Wugu3 Mergen? STR needed?

>>173522343
None of these... and don't build STR without Rogue.

Is jolly roger a pseudo-swash buckling? I can't tell if one circle in corsair is enough to supplement a lack of peltasta.

>>173514529
It's the worst. If you do go to their discord, they won't ever leave you alone and you'll have to bear their reddit discussions.

>>173514529
I know that feel.

>>173520858
>beefarm.jpg

>>173523050
Swash pulls enemies from off-screen and raises your aggro limit.
Flag pulls enemies from 1/3 of the screen.

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>>173519940
>wugushi mergen
>not playing based fwee 3

So in my experience, as a rule, every mmo anon plays is lewd and ERP. Is this one?

More importantly, how grindy is this in levels? How long will it take a piece of shit idiot casual to reach endgame? Is it fun up until then?

>>173525167
Only subhumans play ToS for lewdness and ERP.

>>173525269
Yeah which is why I'm asking if y'all are doing that. Thread doesn't look like it's all thighs and butts and there's a lack of customization so I'm optimistic???

i'll just join and find out

>>173525141
How's Fwee3 on single target? I know Wugu is one of the better options there.

>>173525752
Most of the people into that got tired and left the thread

>>173525782

Better than SR 3 but yeah, can't compete soloing agains't fletcher/wugu on single bosses, unless someone can bring stuff to kick in circling's attribute or melee/strike damage debuffs. Serpentine/rodelstuff/lethargy does wonders for the birb and the broom trap.

>>173525864
Downloading. Is it retarded to go healer as a first character?

>>173526046
So Wugu/Mergen and Fwee3 are about comparable on AoE and Wugu is better on single target?

>>173526136
No. Healers can hurt things with their heals(if they're not flying enemies) and get to be pretty strong that way.

>>173526185

>comparable

I wouldn't say that unless the Wugu is also a sapper 2 or at least scout 1 (but the hitbox without aiming is shit).

>>173526136
Clerics are boring.

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Where is my monk Cave?

>>173526345
I tend to see Wugushi clean up just as fast with Jican Gu/Gu Pot and Mergen skills.
I honestly think it's having R8 skills access that really tips the scales.

>>173526136
as long as you go cleric c2, you are a healer.

>>173526419
You're a slut.

>>173526803
>>173526306
Thanks!

Is Alemeth worth it? How long would I get from R6-class level 9 to R7, hypothetically?

>>173526901
>You're a slut.
Just don't come later complaining that your first character is boring to play.

>>173527382
>Is Alemeth worth it?
Yes.

>>173519074
Fencer and Doppel end up with better dps, but all three are pretty great. Just go for the playstyle you like more.

Why isn't Rush considered a strong DPS skill? What is the downside to it?

>>173510278
we had it for like a week. that is enough. now fuck off.

Is Necro3 really a smart thing to do with this event? Can't think of anything as useful, but it seems IMC is actually going to try killing the only thing they're good at.

>>173527405
This guy is telling what it is, my first character is a monk-inq then reset into a diev-inq. They're both boring and annoying especially when you're partied with people who doesn't wear good gear or the very least put four level 6 yellow gems into their armor. Then they'll complain and wonder why all the heal tiles run out so fast.

I made a Mergen and only touch that cleric for Saalus.

>>173526901
Don't listen to that guy. Cleric is the most versatile class in the game and you have a lot of options, many of which are completely legit end game. Just avoid sadhu.

>>173529119
What's the current bee farming meta build for necro3?

>>173529273
As long as you have necro3, the rest doesn't matter much.

>>173526563

Well, in the videos you can see the fwee killing faster. To be honest I don't even need circling/multishot to kill those 200k hp mobs, broom+flare would would be enough so I can save circling to multishot the next pack.

But that's because the Wugushi archer 3 and has no circling to abuse multishot. Sapper2+Wugu2/3 is probably the best bet for aoe while keeping insane single target DPS, Fwee 3 for a more supportive role.

I'll upload another video soon vs the crystal mine duo.

>>173529192
>you have a lot of options, many of which are completely legit end game
Lot of options = Diev3 or Krivis3.

>>173529568
But the Wugu in the video also isn't Wugu/Fwee/Mergen which destroys his damage. You're also like 20 levels higher than he is.

>>173528420
How would you rank amongst popularity?

Not op but i think I'd have a more fun time if the one i played wasnt the most popular. I see a ton of dragoons but I'm not exactly high level/rank on my main

>>173522254
I see more goons than dopples and more dopples than fencers personally.

>>173529617
This, the only time a Priest is needed is for the 13th floor of ET. Lots of Kriv3 have Priest1 in there circles so that makes priest3 not even viable for end-game.

>>173529192
>a lot of options, many of which are completely legit end game

But there's only two extremely specific cleric builds that are legit endgame, everything else is a for fun gimmick or a TBL build

When an Inquisitor does Malleus, my damage skyrockets on pyrolinker.
If I wanted to make a support character and also have the ability to do this... should I go

Cleric2/Diev3/Oracle/X/Inquisitor (Oracle just for the outfit)

>>173530096
X=Miko.

>>173530096
X is usually Kabbalist
And this is the meta TBL build for cleric.
Miko is often used instead of Oracle.

When is wearing leather a good idea?

>>173529839
Honestly, people seem to pick Dragoon and Doppel more because they're more brute force and they think Fencers are too dainty. But then others pick Fencer for cute and fancy, especially asians, so it can go either way.

You also very rarely see female Dragoons or male Fencers.

>>173530204
Not really concerned about TBL so I guess I could drop Kappa and do >>173530165
Seems good.

>>173530493
it is if you are into BDSM.
in TOS it is not.

>>173531526
fuck you

>>173530493
As of right now, some leather sets have good substats to make them worth using, otherwise eh. IMC said they want to specialize it for more damage-oriented builds with the next major update though.

>>173529727

Yeah her build is far from the best and we also don't know how strong her bow is.

Mine is a dogshit welfare +5 stage 3 purple bow with only one yellow gem, kek.

Attributes: Broom/Flareshot lv 50, Multishot 70.

https://youtu.be/vbLQZ-cvmAo

Golem moved alway from flareshot at the end but you can clearly see ~1m aoe damage BUT they are play so broom has a nice boost. Even so, the potential is ridiculous for a "support" archer.

>>173530508
how would murmnobi rank amongst them? I have yet to see a single one. I've seen more barb2>cor2>nobi than I've seen murmnobis

>>173532074
>>173529727


>moved away* from flare
>BUT they are plate*
Fix'

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>>173531596
no. fuck you

>Yorozuya player with a running shot bot defending his area at the sheep on Dina bee

Pretty much every player from this guild are total fags in my experience.

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>>173532074
Build is A3Wugu3ScoutMerg.
Merg attributes are at 30 and others are at 50.

>>173532572
>full str mergen
LOL

>>173532703
B-but it's full str wugu!

>>173532213
I can't think of the last time I saw a Murmillo at all, but since they're R8 only they're less common by default. Still not as popular as the other three at R8, but more popular than Lancer.

>>173532572

>that str

absolute madwoman!

Gladly to see that your damage can improve A lot. Gem that bow!

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>>173532982
Soon™

what a boring and sad general.

>>173533290
Have you found something you enjoy yet, doomposteranon? It's been a while, you should move on.

Can pandemic spread swell/shrink body?

>>173532572
Given that you're full STR, that build sounds like it would have been much stronger going with Rogue instead of Scout and maybe even R1 instead of A3.

Either that or DEX instead and then Fwee instead of Scout. I'd imagine your weapon and Mergen would make up for your Wugu skills doing a bit less damage.

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>>173532572
>>173532703

DON'T BULLY STR!
>tfw my character was too leveled up to get the free stats reset potion from the last event

but well, that str is also useful, specially for the big multihit fest that is my build. critical rate is easy for archers

>>173533104
>farming orange

You surely love this character a lot.

Anyway, have you considered Ranger1+Rogue over Archer3+Scout for STR crit memes?

We need more young Wugushis!

Create your Wugushi today!!

>>173534463
Stop this meme now.

SADHU IS BAD SADHU IS BAD
>possession ticks as fast as frost cloud
>can fit miko at r6

TOSG????????????

>>173535609
Everyone knows Sadhu sucks.

>>173535819
Feint+Barrage... anon pls.

>>173535609
Miko has no synergy with Sadhu!

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>>173517212
I earned it.

>>173535819
she's ripe for breeding...

>>173533743
i said the general not the game you stupid retard.

>this deleted post

what happened

What do you guys think the R9 classes will be? We've already seen a good amount of the costumes since they're in the game files.

>>173538201
Matador, Luchador.

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wtf I love thaumas now

>>173535609
Miko has no synergy at all with Sadhu you stupid fucking weeb faggot. STOP TRYING TO SHOVE YOUR WEEB CLASS INTO EVERY BUILD.

>>173538665
Can you channel Kagura with main body while astral punching?

>>173538773
Yes.

>>173535609
>possession ticks as fast as frost cloud
>mob hits you and end the skill

>>173538869
>mob hits you
>while possessed
lol

>>173538773
Yeah, but it ain't worth it.
The only way you could really fit Sadhu2 in without losing major utility is to do something like Cleric3/Diev3/Miko/Sadhu2
But if you do that... you lose a lot of damage. (Unless you think Sadhu2 can compare to PD2)

>>173535819
It's also for 10*3 hits from barrage with rogue.

>>173537763
I'll take that as a no then, but maybe one day!

>>173538997
Possession has a target limit

>>173539561
In what scenario do you have more than 15 mobs in a tiny circle that's applicable to a sadhu player?

>>173539678
Does it matter? Why would you even build Sadhu? What would your other circles be? Let's see the build.

Your argument with this anon just seems pointless.

>>173538665

how the fuck not?

it's a int dps build.

Cleric 2/3 (Diev 1) Sadhu 2 -> Miko PD 2.

You can Hanaya into Possession. Literally 6 hits per second while the mobs are CC'd.

>>173539678
It also stops if you get hit by a ranged attack. Trust me man, as someone who loved Sadhu in iCBT2, and tried desperately to make it work at release, it's just not worth it right now. The stat revamp and balance changes might make it good again, but I don't have much hope after the GM interviews said they don't really care about Sadhu.

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>>173538997
The mobs often evade the CC of Possession, even players evade it. I guess you never played Sadhumans.

t. Sadhuman3

>>173540515
Didn't one GM say Sadhu is their favorite class and would love to see it buffed?

>>173540746
Yeah, but that same GM said it's not a priority.

>>173540515
>>173540708
It's like you people want sadhu to have a skill that's frost cloud and raise in one. Fucking glad y'all not in charge of balance.

>>173536529
Lol nice edit

I'm glad IMC is going to change transcend and the damage formula
the difference between stage 10 autist and casual stage 5 will be negligible

Going to be a fun game for people that spend their time on things other than ToS

>>173540895
No, I just want a class that has more than one skill in 3 circles. Suck a dick.

>>173540497
Sacrificing 2 circles of Diev for Sadhu2... literally why?
Worse support and maybe even worse damage from losing clap+owl

>>173540895
This >>173541035

>>173541121

>literally why

To be a Sadhu. And Sadhu 2 outdps a stack of 4 owls alone. We are discussing Sadhu builds, not Diev 3 builds.

Here's my Sadhu, since we're all talking about the best class ever.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41336661h.1a2a355461.112a344a55.1f214e5a65.1155617385

It sucks, Sadhu is a waste.

>>173541358
Why discuss Sadhu builds when there's no point to playing one? That's the point I'm really trying to drive home here.

It's not a good endgame build, it's not a good TBL build, it's not a good solo farming build. What is the purpose?

>>173539293
Don't worry anon one day you will learn to read. ganbare!

>>173541612
>WHY DOESNT EVERYONE PLAY PYRO DOPPEL PD2 LIKE ME WTF????

>>173541612
Maybe you want to be a Diev and have an easier time solo leveling at lower levels before you get carried in parties? Something like this might work for that... but I don't really like the build.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411766i77.1a2a32435461.11263c415a6a75.1a214a55.1121354553

>>173541612

There's no point doing PVE magic dps without Pyromancer if you want to to be a cancerous meta faggot. Whatever bot plays the chrono3/diev3/krivis3 barely matters, he can roll a wardrobe build if I care.

Now, back to Sadhu builds. Literally the only problem is the lack of reason to use OOB and not a single one new nuke at sadhu 3. Sadhu 2 is perfect fine.

>>173540912
Exactly but unless they change how many shards you need it still will be a system most casuals won't ever get to bother with. I'm on the verge of taking my pract weapon and just using 1 for each stage and seeing how far I can take it until it breaks.

And if it breaks, then I quit the game. It's how Koreans usually quit these kind of shitty MMO's. Not even joking.

>>173541612
Why discuss anything if there's no point in playing this game?

>>173541612
fuck off Capyba

>>173542036
lol Capyba is the king of good builds

>>173541612
>It's not a good endgame build, it's not a good TBL build, it's not a good solo farming build. What is the purpose?
Still no good answer to this. I guess toss gee just likes snowflake builds with no actual purpose.

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Don't play Sadhumans, even cure is better than possession

at what floor we get the free +1 anvil at the uphill mission?

>>173542452

>cute
>42/number of mobs hits -number of resist procs
>possession
>30 hits no matter what

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Piece of shit royal guard armor recipe. Literally the only reason i dont have my Virtov plate robe yet.

>>173542452
>you don't even have to stand still for Cure

RIP Sadhu. Also, when the fuck did they change it from Holy to Psychokinosis damage? When did they even add that damage type, and what is it strong against?

>>173542680

>not using royal guard armor until you buy hasta

>>173540912
>the difference between stage 10 autist and casual stage 5 will be negligible

If you saw the charts, weapon damage will take a much larger role than before

+100% weapon damage vs +200% of significantly stronger weapons will probably make a much larger difference than there is already between +150% weapon damage vs +550% of weaker weapons

Not to mention, they said enhancement is getting a big buff so that'll make that 100% weapon damage difference even larger and not to mention that whales now have a reason to go to +15~20 again while you will be stuck at +8

>>173542775

strong vs holy and dark (but only 25 iirc), nothing resists it. It's the best

>>173542815
They never said enhancement will scale with transcendence. They only said it was going to get cheaper.

Thing is IMC is a Korean game developer. They want you to RNG your way up. So they want you to go crazy +15 and +20 by making it cheaper, but by risking destroying it.

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>>173542815
Nah if they stick to this plan i dont care about trans fags

plus with log scaling shit wont be so extreme as it is right now

>>173543021
>They never said enhancement will scale with transcendence.
They don't have to, it already does.

>>173542634
Have you ever played Sadhuman? Possession sure is strong, when the mobs don't evade the CC and you are in the SZ. Cure is a rank1 skill and is better than Possession.

Sadhu is shit and IMC don't even care about it.

>>173542929
Go play a Sadhuman, you will see a lot mobs going through Possession and hiting you or the ranged buddy attacking you.

>prechange
>skill ticks for 100% matk, 5000 atk weapon
>post changes
>skill ticks for 250% matk, 1000 attack weapon

That's for multihit, but single hit stuff like HAND KNIFE LOL will probably get a 800% attack

>>173542929
Kino confirmed best class.

>>173543134
Yeah but it's not worth it. The silver amount is crazy high and unless you're a warlock botter you're not making stuff go higher than 5 or 7.

But the thing is they might change it scaling with trans while making it cheaper. They are also increasing the safe zone of armor and weapons.

the reason people don't go over +6 is that every -1 potential on your weapon fuck up the amount of shards you will get back.

people will shatter their orange 315 when they finish to farm their (ORANGE RANK 9 400 WEAPON) to use the shards on the new weapon.

>>173543661
Well, good thing that mechanic is removed and not only will you get 90% back regardless of potential, during the rebalance you will get 100% of them back

>>173543814

Wait. I can get 90% back already? STOP TEMPTING ME LOL

INT based Cleric:
3INT:2CON or is there a better allocation?

>>173543814
t. mega misinfo agent 006

>>173544116
Don't put them that close, really with the current system you should just go full Int or like 40 con since whatever you can get almost all enemies to do 1 to you anyway.

>>173544041
No, you can get 90% after rebalancing.
However, ALL transcended weapons will get their gems removed and the items transferred to your inventory as a one time deal during the rebalance so you get 100% of them back and keep the weapon.

>>173544116
>CON
>as the class with the highest base HP besides sword
>and safety zone
>and healing

what r u doin

>>173544279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

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>>173544130

>>173544270

OH I see. Thanks. Well, If we get more silver anvils, I will try to push my Windia to +10

>>173544381
You literally cannot die as Cleric unless you're getting 1 shot, which will happen no matter what your HP is. Right now there's no point in putting points into CON. Just pump INT and wait for stat revamp and defense changes.

>>173544453
>our plan
kek
don't forget their plan was once to have 19 classes available at rank 2 for each base class

>>173544581
pvp

>>173544581
Is this true in Solmiki as well?

>>173544692
>minigames

>>173544730
in solmiki you have aus + melstis so you can't die

>>173544730
No. It isn't. There's no harm in getting CON for leveling and for endgame (also helps if you do any form of PVP)

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>Green Lepusbunny are beasts
>Green Lepusbunny Assassins are plants

What did IMC mean by this?

>>173544749
>being a dailies bot

>>173544985
>Highlander 3
ok
>Barb 1
ok
>Sword 3
WHY?

>>173545220
Slashnobi my man

tell me bedside story /tosg/, also post ending in five decides what new alt I roll tomorrow - provided I don't already have that spec as an alt

>>173545421
Let's go, fiver!
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411766i77.1a2a32435461.11263c415a6a75.1a214a55.1121354553

>>173545286
more like slashnooby

>>173545421
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4124b9ifh

>>173545421
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111777gg.16233f516a7585.3f4f5a65.1a2a3241617185

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>>173545706
watch ur words or else...

>>173545421
Become a swaaz disciple and roll his build

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>>173545945
that is.. brave.. and a really dumb way to commit suicide

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>>173545945
Cute cleric!

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>>173546976
he is mine you bitch !

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>>173547073
fite me ingame

>>173547073
>8ch

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>>173547229
Say the place

>tfw you save 5m thanks to the silver anvils kim gave us

I love this man

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how/where get Mithril ore if im weak and low (like 170ish)?
cant buy

Someone who's about to buy TP because i can't make a new account.

Can i trade the Token between my characters? I'm gonna try a lot of classes so i need to know if i can trade the token everytime i want to or is it impossible or has a limit for trading.

>>173547670
You use it and its running for 30Days on all chars in that server.

>>173547559
Yognomes in Tenet church 1f at a very low chance, or watch shout and hope for Uphill party looking for leechers. Once you get to level 230 ish you can go to Extension and do a gimmick there to get attok material box as well.

>>173547337
fedi ch4!

Vienamace is cool but it's so ugly on wizards

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>>173547927
>Yognomes in Tenet church 1f at a very low chance
I tried them, got 1 at the begin but after that nothing for hours.

Isnt there something else? stupid IMC

Cant rly Uphill and lvling to 230 would take a while.

>>173547559
uphell in saalus

>>173548264
Is it a bad idea crafting one before the news on the weapon changes?

>>173551878

Not sure but I did it anyway. It's the best for multiple characters. The damage is worth of a Rod/Sword stage 3.

>>173548265
If you're a scout you can just run to the gimmick, otherwise you're SOL.

Why you need mithril so early anyway?

>>173548265

Do you play on silute? I got 13 from the practonium box alone lol. That shit almost made me quit the game. Four fucking months

>>173552861
>If you're a scout you can just run to the gimmick
I maybe got a alt i can make into scout.
What is that gimmick about? killing stuff? how often and when does it spawn?

I need them to make a item to do good dmg at main

>>173553030
no im not, but thx

>>173545421
make healmage's healing build

>>173553519
i looked it up. so its number guess and 6 times per day. per char or team?

kinda RNG but i guess i will try that

>>173545421

STR Ranger Wugushi Rogue Mergen

>>173555127
It's per char, also it's more of a logic puzzle than guessing.

>White recipes in cardboard cubes

Ok who ok'd this so I can kill them. The gimmick recipes are fine, getting twin blades is not.

>>173548265
Egnomes on 2F spawn with good density and in concise areas every couple of minutes, used to take me maybe 100-200 kills each time.

>>173556791
Thanks, maybe i will try to cheese a 2nd char there.

Looks like only 10 try to enter numbers. Im not very good with math. No 100% way to success it?
(or addon/dev stuff to hax it?)

>>173557419
That sounds pretty ok, will try them later. Thanks

Even - wugufwee
Odd - monk

Tell me about Fletcher right now or im gonna go wild!!

>>173558604

How are going to do it?

A3 Style? Shitty imo.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111666eh.1f29334f516171
So sad that you can't fit rogue on wugu 3 fwee mergen... and I'm not sure people would accept you at the wugu club being only wugushi 2

>>173559003
You're a retard anon.

Fletchers don't level up at all because they lose critical %. As soon as they have Fletcher C3 unlocked they max out the only skill that matters with the 5 skill points saved and then start farming and dumping money into the attributes.

Any level 280 fletcher is pathetic damage.

They don't have consistent damage just OP burst. Fletcher is a weak fucking class once they have used their skill they literally sit there and hit Barrage and AFK.

>>173559068
Dont they have skilled with no cooldown?

>>173559068
This guy is correct. You might as well not play the game unless youre a Wugushi, Pyro or Cleric.

>People are charging millions for single-socket Pajoritas Cannon when Critti Cannon is far better and easy to get

What's the skill distribution for Hunter C3?

>>173559295
You don't even have downtime, Magic Arrow's cd is just 5 seconds and Barbed Arrow is a 0 cd skill. Once you use one or two of your skills, you can throw down another Magic Arrow. Heck, while bossing you can shuffle one MA-skill-MA-skill so on and so forth and you'll never stop doing damage.

>>173560503
But is fletcher impractical for killing normal enemies since its skills cost so much MP and require materials?

>>173560601
Wood is really cheap, you won't even feel it. You can buy 1000 of each and stockpile arrows in your storage and retrieve them once you're running low.

>>173559757
>You might as well not play the game unless youre a Wugushi, Pyro or Cleric.
>he doesn't know about Dragoon
>he doesn't know about Fencer
>he doesn't know about Doppelmadara

>>173562558
Anons is it true?

That Fencer is all about class and grace in the battlefield?

While Doppel is all about becoming the personification of brute force?

that Fencer is about knowing your pace, taking only 2-3 enemies at a time

while Doppel is about taking them all at once

that fencer is literally the virgil of this game, silent, cold and sophisticated

while Doppel is the dante, rushing head on into armageddon

that fencer is muhammad ali, "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"

while Doppel is mike Tyson "I'm gonna fuck you till you love me faggot"

that fencer is my chemical romance

while Doppel is poison

that Fencers are vampires

while doppels are werewolves

that fencer lifts for aesthetics

while doppels lifts for strength

that fencer is crossft

while doppels are SS

Fencer is griffith

Doppels is Guts

Fencer is Hashirama

Doppel is madara

Fencer is bleach

Doppel is one piece

Fencer is vegeta

Doppel is goku

Fencer is the 2nd silent edgy motherfucker protagonist

Doppel is the main NAKAMA DATTEBAYO NEVER GIVE UP protagonist
is this true?

>>173513606
>>173513504
What you just described is the opposite of DPK since it can drop from the first kill. You're saying it wasn't removed because it was removed and replaced by something that isn't DPK at all.

new dpk is basically a very small % chance that increase every kill up 2x the old maximum dpk value.

Still not sure about the 2x and not sure about the initial %, certainly varies depending on the item.

>>173565769

long shaggy is the best hair!

>>173565769
>Kateen Flower Decoration
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>173565769
F M K

How long does it take to farm a token if I'm not high level and I'm not a meta spec?

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Help me anons. Regarding the reset mentioned in the stat rebalance, is it any class circle or only your previous circle?


I was not here for the first time they did this so I am still a HL3 Cor Doppel 2 and was not close to CLvL 15 and I didn't want to lose my EXP. This new reset makes it sound like my current job class won't reset if I change mt COR to Barb right? I just want to get to Doppel 3 without fucking up my class level.
Korean to English translation is pretty choppy.