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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 10th:
837 – Halley's Comet makes its closest approach to Earth at a distance equal to 0.0342 AU (5.1 million kilometres/3.2 million miles).
1500 – Ludovico Sforza is captured by Swiss troops at Novara and is handed over to the French.
1741 – War of the Austrian Succession: Prussia gains control of Silesia at the Battle of Mollwitz.
1809 – Napoleonic Wars: The War of the Fifth Coalition begins when forces of the Austrian Empire invade Bavaria.
1815 – The Mount Tambora volcano begins a three-month-long eruption, lasting until July 15. The eruption ultimately kills 71,000 people and affects Earth's climate for the next two years.
1941 – World War II: The Axis powers establish the Independent State of Croatia.


>News
EU4 Mandate of Heaven is out.

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>173522635
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>173603671
>>173603661
>five seconds
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>>173603671
BASED
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>>173603630
What's that horrible map mod?
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Pick my instrument, /gsg/
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Does Mandate of Heaven have any major bugs? Should I wait for a hotfix?
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>>173603671
white
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>>173603894
Pomerania
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>>173603894

this europe is extremely disgusting
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>>173603329
Who cares as long as the mod is good?
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>>173603671
W&B
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>>173604009
It's a meme mod lad.
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How do I get good, I don't understand what I'm doing in war at all.
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Fixed mystics and monks WHEN
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>>173604075
What game
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>>173603931
It's surprisingly bug free, I can't think of anything wrong with it.
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>>173604063

why are you playing it
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>/civ4xg/ complains about the /gsg/
>Come here
>The shitposting here is better than the pseudo intellectualism there
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>>173604250
I'm not that guy and he's probably playing it because he's the creator of the mod
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>>173604296
What shitposting?
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>>173603864
Memes.
Also, vanilla is cancer.

>>173603970
S-shut up
>tfw your 4 ironman Byzantine saves get corrupted
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>>173604138
all of them
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>>173603586
Before or after I randomly turn Feudal?

There's no mention in either feature screen of Anarchy, or of instantly turning Feudal on ruler death.
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>>173604382
But there are much better map mods out there like that one that actually fixes latitudes and shit
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>>173604385
Just play and learn the ropes, it can take a while but you eventually understand. Start by the simple games like EU4 or CK2. Tutorials are horrible but if you fiddle around long enough you can learn. Fuck I learnt HoI3 that way.
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>>173604408
screen of anarchy?
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>>173604430
desu tribes shouldn't even be in
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>>173604437
I actually like it, it reminds me of WWI era maps for some reason.
Probably something to do with the gothic text
Anyway, what would you recommend.
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>>173604105
They promised that shit WEEKS ago
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>>173604670
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=403025031
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What's the verdict on Mandate?
Should I buy it?
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>>173604886
>buying DLC
>ever
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>>173604886
>buying
w e w
e
w
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That feel when no map mod with Mercator projection.
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None of you boys pirate video games, right?
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>>173604937
>not supporting companies
Enjoying your no games in the future lad
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>>173604886
>buy
Don't buy Paradox DLC.
>p-p-poorfag!
I probably have enough liquid capital to buy your entire house so don't start.
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>>173604995
See >>173605054
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>>173605101
>paradox going out of business
>bad
I can only w e w so many times lad
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>>173605018
It doesn't crash, it restarts, that's intended behavior.
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How can you make the nations in your sphere the same goverment as yours in HPM without going to war?
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>>173605101
Maybe we'll get a competitor and Paradox will finally have to stop charging 15 dollars or whatever it is for the DLC without the "content pack".
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>>173605163
>not wanting videogames
Why are you here?
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>>173605053
>boys
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>>173604621
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>>173605229
>killing the only producer will get a competitor
Flawless logic

>>173605213
You can't
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>>173605053
nope. only DLCs
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>>173605242
It's less about not wanting videogames and more about wanting videogames that are actually good and reasonably priced. I reserve my right as a potential customer to refuse to seal the deal and reject their transaction.
>then don't pirate
Pirating comes at low risk and provides an alternative to buying something. Up the risk (i.e. expected costs) if you want me to stop.

>>173605349
>flawless logic
At the very least, flagging profits may induce them to change their business model.
Look here m8, I don't know about you, but after the utter rubbish that is HoI IV I'm not sure I want Victoria III or Europa V from this company if it maintains the current trend.
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>>173605295
>anarchy
>form of government
while it's neat anarchy isn't a government
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>>173605276
>implying girls are autistic enough to play and enjoy grand strategy
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>>173605436
I think in this case it's just a more formal term for saying """"""Government""""".
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>>173605436
what screen did you want then?

I call it a sub-type of government because where it's says anarchy now, it used to say Germanic Chiefdom.
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>>173605429
>At the very least, flagging profits may induce them to change their business model.
Yes, probably to the MOBA or phone market.
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>>173605396
How do you expect Paradox to create more games and content if you don't buy all the games and the DLCs. Don't you want more Paradox games? These poor starving programmers need your money. Pirating is worse than pedophilia and you should feel bad.
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>>173605452
1. Everyone on 4chan is a little girl
2. realisitically, there are women who play GS; way fewer, to be sure, but I grew up with one so I'd know.

>>173605519
>probably to the MOBA or phone market
Not my concern, considering Hearts of Iron IV is sliding that way already [while] they're making a fat fucking profit margin. I'm not interested in CK III if it's going to slide that far; AoE II and Civ IV remain enjoyable, I have my alternatives.
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>>173605349
>You can't
Shit, good thing that a fascist coup on Austria happened and they wanted me to annex them, can this happen with other countries in Central/Easteen Europe?
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>>173604886
It's good, but China is overpowered as fuck and it's way too pricey for a handful of minor features.
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>>173605667
If they have the same culture as you
That's why they petitioned for annexation
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how are you my white lad from another lad
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>>173605767
>China is overpowered
All is as it should be.
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>>173605767
>>173605767
>ut China is overpowered as fuck
So it's historical?
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>>173605772
Fuck, so you cant annex Czechoslovakia? They have plenty of Germans, and will Ukraine invade Crimea if nobody has it in its sphere?
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>>173605054
>som autist pirating DLC will make a 100 million U$ company go bankrupt
I will never understand you paradrones.
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>>173605452
Played eu1 or eu2 on a lan with my brother and sister once.

Read some blog that was linked here ages ago about some chick playing eu3 or eu4.

Probably a very low % of grand strat players that are girls, but if a woman is into history and into gaming they may very well get into grand strat games.

My sister isn't very good at video games, but she's drawn to thematic genres, she isn't into history, but fantasy, so she'll play strategy games as long as they are about fantasy, so homm, warcraft, age of wonders.
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>>173605873
>>173605886
Well really it's not this expacs fault, it's Institutions. China is more powerful than the Ottomans and India is as powerful as the HRE. They're never behind in tech at all and they get rich provinces and huge forcelimits.
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Because it was the wrong thread.

>>173603972

That's part of the ledger I believe, only mods I'm running are the map graphics mods.

Apparently Ming can also support all that upkeep with the world's largest navy and it doesn't need production when it has the entire continent of trade and taxation. As well as being able to get 10% discipline to counteract any +50% shock and +50% fire damage on top of being able to get +10% infantry combat ability from their emperor decrees.
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>>173605628
>no bump after posting an image
>the guy posting the mememod is the OP
>playing Reed's mememod
wew Reed at least pretend you are not the one shitposting about HPM and the only person playing your mememod
This is sad
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>>173605886
Not him but the problem is that it does a really fucking bad job of simulating internal rot, and since development = institutions and China has almost infinite fucking wealth, China will almost never fall behind anyone. In fact, in my latest game (playing as Japan), China was fucking AHEAD of Europe by 1600 by like three tech levels.
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>>173605951
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N
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>>173605905
You can, by force. Only countries in your culture group and if you are a union tag will ask for annexation. Like Italian minors for Italy and German minors for Germany.
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if i buy vic 2 can i pirate the dlc?
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>>173606112
Don't think so but Vicky II xpacs actually deserve your money.
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>>173606112
>buying anything from paradox
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>>173605951

post this qtie
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>>173606178
its just so i can play mp easily
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>>173605886

If historical entails Ming surviving until 1812 instead of the regular 1644 historical then sure it's """historical""".
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Manufactories, starting in coastal china, spread to and was embraced by the Ottomans, before it spread enough in japan to even allow me to embrace it. 10/10
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>>173606304
>he didn't build manufactories and embrace the institution almost instantly

You have only yourself to blame. Make sure you don't miss the next institution, start building universities now.
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i never asked for this
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>>173606007
I just thought people might be interested is all. HPM gets boring after 500 hours.
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>>173606425
Jebus
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>>173606304
Manufactories should spread within your own lands anyway.

Even as a horde where I neglected infrastructure and relied on gold mines I still had it spread domestically through my manufactories.
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>>173606095
Dammit, also, both Galicia Lodomeria and Poland exist, shouldnt I be able to do something? This also applies to Ukraine and Crimea
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>>173606432
that's why you made an earlier thread just to replace hpm's pastebin with the pastebin you use to spam the thread?
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>>173606867
That's coincidental.
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>>173607074
You need to do that retard, you are the OP
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>>173606112
>>173606236
please help the sale ends soon
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>>173607143
Not him but how do you know he's OP? Where does this legend of "OP can't bump his own thread" come from? OP can bump his thread as soon as someone else posts in it, the only thing he can't do is a 'lonely bump'.
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>>173607503
>Where does this legend of "OP can't bump his own thread" come from?
First 100 posts OP can't bump his own thread. That's common knowledge if you aren't a newfag, reed.
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>>173607714
Except it's just not true unless they changed it within the past year, I've literally shamelessly bumped my own thread at like the fifth post before (because it was /eagg/ during a dead period). I've had people on /a/ tell me that each IP can only bump once too, or that you can only bump after 50 posts (I've bumped my own threads before), absurdly enough. OP can bump threads after someone else posts.
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Two wars left including this one.
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>>173607876
>Except it's just not true
It is. Go make a random thread in /vg/ and try to bump it, reed.
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>>173607969
>reed
I'm not reed.
>make a random thread
I like to think I'm not part of the /gsg/ cancer that makes many threads early and fucks up ded threds
>try to bump it
It only works if someone else posts.
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>>173608089
Sure you aren't, reed.
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Why is there so little Byzaboos here? they are cooler than muh slav countries and muh germanium.
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>>173606425
Just clean up those nomads and swallow Lithuania, and you'd have a pretty neat pan-Orthodox empire.
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>>173608230
1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4
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alternative ireland
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>>173607303
>>173606112
blease
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>>173608482
No you can't
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>>173608230
Byzantines are objectively shit. Their only inventions are architecture and preserving christian stuff in times where they aren't sperging about iconoclasm
>b..but they were bulwark of christianity and fallen because of fourth crusade!
They would fall anyway, the crusaders just hastened up the invetiable. And Venetians repaid them for massacre of latins.
>b..but they were strong, and survived unlike the western empire!
they literally paid hordes to not attack then and to move on to the western empire instead
They were greatest hive of plotting snakes, backstabbers and sadists the world has ever seen and they totally deserved what happened ot them.
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Well that was easy.
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>>173608471
wew
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Oh, I found out where Spain went.

>>173608784
>t. urk
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>>173608784
>t. charlie
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>play as France as HoI3 BICE
>Germany finally DoW
>It's k, I'm totally prepared
>-80% org modifiers pops up
>Germany just brute forces through maginot line
Wew got outplayed by AI lads
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>>173609476
happened around that time in real life too
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>>173608784
>They were greatest hive of plotting snakes, backstabbers and sadists the world has ever seen and they totally deserved what happened ot them.
Nothing the Greeks did will ever be as evil or repulsive as the Devshirme System.
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>>173609040
>republic
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How do i use pirated dlcs on a bought copy? Do i just put the dlc on the steam folder, or do i have do to something else?
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>>173609963
CreamAPI.
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>>173607961
good job lad
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>>173604937
Queer
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11 years into superdeath and performance still hasn't improved much. something like 51 major epidemics going on right now and people are dropping like flies but it's not enough.

what impact would it have if I made india go poof in the middle of a game?
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>>173610805
>what impact would it have if I made india go poof in the middle of a game?
You wouldn't be able to continue.
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>>173610849
figured as much.

don't really want to restart but constant black death isn't killing enough people fast enough to have a impact.

maybe I'll pump some steroids into it.
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How do i get a good canada kaiserreich game?
I want the CSA to win so i get a north american war
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Thinking of starting a CK2 game, how required is M&M?
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>>173611305
Declare war on the commies.
Be sure to take their industrial centres.
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Any EU4 PRO here?
It used to have dynamic trade, that is that the prices were constantly changing.
Why did they remove that?
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>>173611469
>it used to have dynamic trade
What the fuck? No, it didn't.
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>>173611443
Its good, not required though. The societies, specifically the hermetic society, I found really fun, problem is you can't join as a pagan. Pagans really got the shut end of the stick but the dlc is fun
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>>173611443
Not required at all, but it provides an assload of stat bonuses.
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>swedish ethiopia
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>>173611597
It did.
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>>173611745
EU IV? No, it did not. It had scattered events changing prices, but that's it. You're thinking of EU III.
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>>173611597
>that is that the prices were constantly changing

This was 100% in the game at one point. Learn to read mate
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>>173611783
When, 1.0 beta or something? I picked it up (like a dumbass) at the 1.1 patch, unless it was patched out almost immediately...
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Why there is a dinosaur head in Vic 2 icon? Were they discovered in Victorian era?
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>>173611840
Vicky Era and the years preceeding did have a bunch of discoveries of Ice Age and earlier animals to put the nail in the coffin of Young Earth, but I dunno about actual dinos
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>>173611840
maybe
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Well that was fun.
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>>173611837
It was patched out VERY early. Probably around CoP
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oh no the krauts are winning
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>>173611961
Do it on Ironman
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>>173612041
Then probably because it was too demanding for the Candy Crush audience who couldn't deal with a dynamic trade system.
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HOST MP HOST MP HOST MP RIGHT NOW
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>>173611469
Because it was a resource hog.
Wiz may claim there's another reason, but those are only poor rationalizations.


>>173611597
It used to have dynamic price of goods.
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I wish you could selectively disable features.
Especially Estates.
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>>173611243
has_bubonic_plague = {
is_epidemic = yes
is_illness = yes

diplomacy_penalty = -10
martial_penalty = -10
stewardship_penalty = -10
intrigue_penalty = -10
learning_penalty = -10

health_penalty = -15

on top of this I increased contagiousness, outbreak, and I believe gave it a 50% chance to hit people in seclusion.

I may have gone a bit overboard
but fuck it.
purge initiated.
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Slavs were hit hard
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They also lost the Far East
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>>173612185
No.
Have an attempt back when I was at 100~ hours
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Now, it's The Empire Strike Back.
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I was dragged into this war. I dindu nuffin. The Brits did all the fighting.
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>>173613509
>grosspersiums
nice
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>>173612238
>event sets price of goods at certain date
>dynamic
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I got some colonies from the krauts in the end even though I didn't fight any battle. Kinda nice.
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>>173613917
I was talking about EU III and its "set up a new trade center in this province that got ahistorically rich as shit".
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>>173612267
>resource hog

This is the true answer. Very resource intensive for such a minor supply/demand feature that the player couldn't interact with anyway
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>>173612361
I questioned where my armies had gone.
the answer is I accidentally made it 505.
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mayyyyooo wheeeennn?????
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Which mods do you guys use when you play EU4?
Do you have any personal mod(s)? If so, tell us about them, what they do.
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>>173615189
We need a tier list for all tags
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>>173615138
ToT.
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>>173615189
>jewstate
>glorious enough
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>173615376
you are barely sentient
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>>173613917
>event sets price of goods at certain date
>dynamic
No he's not calling that system dynamic.
The one before that system had dynamic price.

>>173614696
>that the player couldn't interact with anyway
Assuming it functioned like eu3 there were loads of interactions with it.
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>>173615189
those sjws looted the shit out of polen
never forget the deluge
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>>173615656
Literally who do you think you're satarising?
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>>173615527
It was just a supply/demand system that checked production levels and adjusted prices periodically

>>173615453
lost. Have a (you)
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>>173615385
Tot?
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>>173615828
suck my 4 inch wopper nigger
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>>173615845
>lost. Have a (you)
What do you think to pic related?
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>>173615718
>literally who

stop talking in gamer nerd language you repulsive faggot
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>>173615947
absolute shit
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>>173615939
how do you plan on coercing me into doing that when you physically resemble the dude in this picture
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>>173616157
by nodding respectfully and asking politely of course
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>>173615845
>It was just a supply/demand system that checked production levels and adjusted prices periodically
Which isn't the same thing as
>event sets price of goods at certain date
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>>173616240
It's not the same. The current system is railroaded and oblivious to what's happening around it

The old one made more sense but was too resource intensive
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Does annexing my final vassal as a Japanese Daimyo turned Shogun auto turn me to Japan? I know it used to, but I'd rather keep my current ideas.
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So does anyone here the map that shows what lands are redpilled to take as France in Victoria 2?
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Steamcordplaza pls...
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>>173616576
You don't auto switch ideas, for the last couple of patches whenever you form a new nation you get an event to change ideas, but don't Shizmazu is the best ideas
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If only black people had fought like that when the White Man decided he was conquering every African country, enslaving any black that he liked and taking any natural resource that he wanted
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oh man remember that time in history the entire HRE and Hungary let Ottoman troops march to the Netherlands to lay siege? this game is just too realistic
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>>173617001
>blacks were enslaved by whites
>slave parties were just like hunting parties
No honey, blacks sold their fellow man into slavfery because they had not evolved socially enough to go from tribes to societies
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>>173617010
Spawn a revolt in every European province that the Ottoman army moves through to simulate more realistic attrition.
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>>173615189

Holy fucking shit choose a color that doesn't kill my eyes.
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Is that really a war you wanted to start, HREfags?
Ottoblob is on the side of our glorious crusade.
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>fight France, Russia, Italy and Austria in one single war as the NGF
>win and create Germany
Prussia may be a meme but god damn if it's not the most fun country to play as.
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>>173611840
Yes
https://www.google.com/search?q=dinosaur+victorian+era&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab
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>>173617509
I like how realistic and historically viable this game is hahahaha
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>>173616320
>>173616485
>>173616647

>When you're so pent up in your own frustration about your lack of accomplishments in life that you try and pin it on an entire race.
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>>173617010
>Ottomans aren't allying with the Dutch
>what is Sultan over Kaiser
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>>173617509
How did this happen anyway? Ottos were allied with the coalition leader?
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>>173617932
I, Athens, am target of the coalition. I am allied to Ottomans and Castille (+Aragon, Naples). Austria is the emperor and I stayed in the HRE like the good italian cuck I am, so they got called in too.
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>France and England hated each other's guts and were rivals for centuries
>Austria and the Ottomans fought tooth and nail repeatedly for the Balkans for centuries on end too
>by WW1 each were allied to their historical rival
Magical times.
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which is the best cold war era mod for vic 2?
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>>173618095

When worse comes to worse, you'll look to anyone you know to have your back.
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>>173618095
The reversal of the Prussian French allaince I find more interesting, also Bulgaria killing Nicohlas
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>>173618095
Are you trying to say that things change over the course of 900 years? I never thought of that anon thank you for typing it all out.
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>>173618091
Also Pope is allied to Austria, so he joined in on my side even though he's in the coalition against me. Funny.
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>>173618878
Over the course of 50 years, retard.
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>the shitposter is banned
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>>173619239

>France and England hated each other's guts and were rivals for centuries
>Austria and the Ottomans fought tooth and nail repeatedly for the Balkans for centuries on end too

English is not my best language. Is "Centuries" = "50 years"?
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Don't you love it when you arry stops the comfy game you had
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Is this because I'm independent now and can't ally vassals?
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>>173615138
mayonnaise & inconvenient finances
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>>173619297
Am I the shitposter or is chin-guy?
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>>173619297
who?
>>
>>173619297
Accurate
Where'd you get this spicy OC?
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>>173616930
Thanks man.
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So question here. I'm playing CK2 with the HIP mod and I'm an emperor that's taken most of Europe, one of my titles is king of Sicily but sicily proper is actually taken by muslims in the west and byzantines in the east. One of the Casus Bellis I have is for a Holy war to retake Sicily, and it says that I can purge titles from all rulers that aren't of my faith. The CB outlines all of sicily including what's taken by the Byzantines. If I use that will the Byzantines also come in? Can I claim their territories too?
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How do I beat Ouichi as Shizmazu, they have 4.2 morale whilst I have 301 so they always beat me even though I have far more troops
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wew
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Will EU4 ever stop using shitty mana points?
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So I've just started a Brunei run and Ming wants me to become a tributary state. Should I do it? It's 1448.
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Ottomemes completely ratfucked Europe
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>>173621516
realistic worlds
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The +1 in home terrain is bugged, it has the river icon, and globe minus sign in battlle
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>>173621797
>/pol/tard falseflagging as anti-/pol/ shitposter
kys
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>>173621797
ok
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>>173621797
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NI HAO
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>>173621702
river crossing penalty has nothing to do with terrain bonus
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>>173621516
Nice multiplayer game.
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>>173621989
Your Ming blobbed?
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What version of eu4 do I need to load to play voltaire's nightmare
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>>173622005
I know it doesn;t I suffered it when it said there were no rivers there
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>Florry has ~13,000 hours on EU4

how can one man be so autistic?
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>>173622685
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Ah yes Uesgi the honourable clan which beata da shogun when outnumbered two to one was defeated by da rebels that spawn from the land the wife of Shizmau came from, turly amazing
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>>173621989
>1554
Extremely balanced
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>>173622338
>KOREA
literally every time
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>>173622810

dumb
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>>173621989
Show ledger filtering for Ming
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This is why you don't rebel as then you start backstabbing each other
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>>173623487
It's so dumb that daimyou allies automatically join war for independence.
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>>173612408
>>173612698
gz on ur first vicky gaem
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>>173621989
WTF
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>>173623823
How so, we made an agrreement to see it through thick and thin, to dishonour the call to arms woul;d be most disrespectful, and why not have my ally as Daiymo?
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Only 20 years then I can do that
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When mayo?
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How do you make Sengoku Jidai happen again
>>
anyone play the new stellaris dlc?
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How do I become a subject of the shogun again, in the Uesegui war to make himself Shogun I became independent and now I can't war his vassals nor even marry them
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What's bad about me becoming Ming's tribuitary state, they'll help me against the shogun wars won't they?
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>>173624074
Because you are allying them against other daimyous. You can still be loyal to the emperor. There should be a separate pact for overthrowing the emperor.
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>>173625306
>>173593735

more people talk about it here m8
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I'm 3/5/5 myself so yeah let's join
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holy shit this thread is kept alive now by weebs playing japan 24/7 we're going to need a new meme image like the south africum and prussium ones
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>>173622338
This is the most aesthetic thing I have ever seen.
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>>173626909
>unironically using stuff like !
back to tumblr lad
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>>173626310
I know, I'm just asking here because I know you guys play it as well and I trust /gsg/'s judgement much more than /civ/'s
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>>173627017
Lol, what? He is not supposed to use the language when writing?
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Why do communists like Ulm?
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>>173626825
Loli but boys
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>>173627065
You shouldn't trust /gsg/ lad, 90% in here are edgy haters of everything that is not liquor, and will say stellaris is shit no matter what. The people on civ4xg might actually have something real to say about it.
>>
PORN
>>
MAYO
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>>173627065
I've played only a little bit of Stellaris but the DLC just feels like more stuff that doesn't work tacked on to stuff that needed fixed. I also pirated it and activated it on Steam in case you're asking if it's worth buying in a roundabout way.
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>>173627203
reddi
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>>173627391
>He doesn't realize how shit /civ4xg/ really is
Either way, even people there say that Stellaris isn't that great. That will remain true until Paradox tries to fix the core game instead of adding more lackluster content. Maybe it'll be worthwhile in like a year or two after more DLC, patches, and mods.
>>
Lads, how soon do you think there will be a hotfix for 1.20 (MoH)?

Don't they usually release a hotfix after a couple of days, or am I wrong?
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>>173628037
It's ok, they don't need to hurry. I like my colonial nations growing fast.
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>>173627917
we get it dude you go on 4chan
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>>173628390
strawman
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Will Ming protect me, as I'm their tribuitary state, against the Shogun?
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>>173628431

You literally did the same thing.
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>>173628516
another strawman detracting frm argument at hand
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>>173628294
They do that? Lol. I haven't noticed.

What else is off about the DLC in your opinion? Anything?
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>>173628462

Yes.
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>>173628874
in both offensive and defensive wars?
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Why is the AI so shit at colonizing in EU4. They almost never conquer the Native American savages
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>>173629237
Watched Norway get beat by Iroquot the other day. You know the option on the left, the one you always pick "co-exist peacefully with natives"? The AI RPs and doesn't always pick that and it fucks them over.
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>>173629237
if you buy every dlc on steam they will be smarter trust me
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Is there a flow chart on what to do with each inccdient for the best outcome
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Where's that Ming when you need him
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Assist me, dear lads. How do I become the jew as Ethiopia? I can only seem to get nationalist rebels from that one jew province, no zealots whatsoever.
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>>173628583
Ming has been making tributaries of Indian estates and nations in Malacca peacefully, but has waged 14 wars to make Chagatai a tributary and they haven't accomplished it. I don't know how if Ming gets bonuses to diplomacy for the purpose of establishing tributaries, but I don't think they should have such long range, they are Emperor of China after all, not of Asia.

Also, nations released by Shogunate japan are a little weird, you can't use their conquest/reconquest casus belli.
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>>173629237
It's bizarre, sometimes they conquer all the natives and at other times they completely ignore them.

Usually it's only Spain and Portugal who conquer natives, too.
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>>173629237
I like watching Spain spiral into debt every game fighting Muisca.
>>
Any particular reason the AI always rolls higher than me in combat, even when our generals are even levels
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>>173631028
Lucky Nations™
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>>173631238
does it affect rolls
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>>173631336
No. It's more likely that you just notice the times your enemies rolls over you than when you do them.
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>>173626649
>this nightmare of a blob
>aesthetic
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>>173630185
You have to conquer faster, there's no coalitions in Sengoku Japan.
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>>173631238
I'm in Japan so they're not lcuky
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>>173631470
As someone who has done a load of save scumming I can confirm this is the case.

>tfw up against an Ottoman 5/6 general and save scumming until your first two rolls are 9s and his are 0s

special type of autism
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>>173631478
The only thing in this map that is nasty is the Haitian blobbing. Everything else is fantastic.
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>>173631028
>confirmation bias
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>>173631593
>colonising land is blobbing
>Sweden and Russia isn't

lovely stuff
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So do I just constantly invovle my allies in wars to stop them taking the shogunate
>>173631481
But alliances still fire right
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post a country that hasn't blobbed IRL and I'll prove you wrong
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>>173631593
That's because you're not looking deep enough into this hell of a run.
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>>173632064
Just do as I do and take all their land
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>>173632047
Luxembourg
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>>173632316
Allied in a PU with the Netherlands for a very long time and thus responsible for one of the top 5 worst blobs in history.
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>>173632047
Tonga
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>>173632752
Tonga is just a small part of cannibals blobbing all over the place in rafts
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>>173632520
Lichtenstein
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>>173632627
You should've gone for the PU of bohemia.
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>>173632047
San Marino
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>>173632889
Yeah, I don't have one for that. Well, I do but it would be pedantic at best.
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>muslim revolution
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>>173632047
montenegro
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>>173633605
Not a country.

>>173633371
That's one of the other few. I'm tempted to say it's Italy but I don't know anything about it.
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>>173633594
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>>173633789
Germany
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How do I kill Spain now. They are bigger than Ottomans
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should I just trash these ships?
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>>173633193
and fuck my AE over for 50 years?
>>
I'm not even giving you a (you)
>>
so are there actually any decent fucking grand strategy games that arent the trash made by paradox?

EU is a painting game
HOI has become a painting trash
Victoria is easy
CK2 is fucking around

is there any actual in depth grand strat games that have interesting political and combat based systems?

everytime ive played a rand strat game its got boring and repetitive every time.
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>>173633946
>british still in france
>britanny still existing

git gud
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>>173633594
post that Perm
>>
Does Darkest Hour come with Kaissereich already installed?

All I can see are Armageddon and Abyss.
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does anyone have that ck2 performance mod? I can't open the fucking forum thread even when logged in, fuck that bullshit.
Trying to play it on a shitty laptop
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>>173634143
>Victoria is easy
then blob as montenegro you cuck
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>>173633946
get friends

it's not even 1600 yet they're far from unbeatable
>>
>>173634159
Brittany is still there because they are my allies and I am trying to diplo-annex them. Calais I just don't give a shit about it.
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>>173634143
No. Paradox manages to make everything uninteresting and holds a monopoly on nonautistic grand strategy

They're even trying to ruin Eugen and Wargame
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>>173634367
no because i find victoria extremely boring, blobbing is also boring
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>>173634376
But they are my friends hehe. That's why they become so big in the first place. Should I break my alliance with them? They hold one French province. Btw what are good allies for France? i am currently allied with Poland, Sweden, Castile, the Papal States and Brittany. My rivals are England, Muscovy and Austria
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>>173634143
git gud
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>>173634528
You're playing the wrong genre.
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>>173634630
>grand start can only ever be paradox trash

nice

no i love the idea of grand strategy but the games paradox make are shit
>>
>>173634549
if you want to kill them then yes break it off

if you want to try getting them in a PU then don't

your friends should be other big people that hate your rivals
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>>173634751
Good luck in your search. Please drop in and post screens when you find a better one.
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>>173635024
i wish i could find one
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>>173634247
It's nothing special.

Commonwealth ate Muscovy early on because it somehow had become Sunni but it, Perm and Novgorod did basically jackshit.
I force-released them about a hundred years later as proper orthodox and they ate them both as usual.
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>>173634143
You just need to set your own goals and achieve them, you don't have to go for having twice as much development as the next three powers combined.
Set a goal that you want to achieve and do it, then see how it plays out for the next three hundred years.
Distant Worlds can also be fun.
>>
>>173635219
its more of the gameplay of those games are so boring

its so focused on just taking over land and so little management of people, politics and diplomacy. victoria touches it but so fucking weak its pathetic
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>>173634440

What are these autistic Grand Strategies you talk about?
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HAHAHA Christcucks are killing each other
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>>173633594
>literally called ottomans because of the ottoman dynasty
>presidential republic
>>
>>173632047
china
>>
How should I form a merchant republic in the Levant?
>>
>>173635570
It's pretty pathetic, isn't it? Is it easy to change that in the game files to Turkey?
>>
>>173634326

Bumping...
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>>173635570
>literally called deutschland because is the land of the deutsch
>full of turks
Believable worlds ;)
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>>173635767
nothing
i said nothing
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>>173635415
Then go full autist mode and play something like aurora then.

>>173635205
Is Normandy your vassal?
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>>173634326
no
>>
>>173635767
>full of new germans*
>>
>>173635458
They're complete shit, basically staring at spreadsheets the whole time and buggy as hell. Don't even bother:

>Aurora
>Gary Grigsby
>AGEOD
>Distant World's Universe
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>>173635205
What was your monthly income like the day after you became the HRE?
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>>173636204
unless you post grosse montenegro game in vic 2 you aren't allowed to say victoria is easy
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>Victoria 2
>realism
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>>173636609
Canned goods is only a military good in vanilla V2
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>>173636609
WE
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>head to the paradox forums to see how MoH is going
>thread discussing how broken Ming is
>butthurt chinks crawling out of the woodwork to defend Ming and even claim that it should be far stronger in the game
>>
>>173636609
>I find it funny that a landlocked tribe in the African interior finds themselves paralyzed by the price of British bread

Oh yes this is fantastic.
>>
>>173637139
this gives a rise to a fundamental question
if chinks were so strong then why were they rekt by europeans
>>
>>173637139
we get it you watch shitty anime
>>
>>173637230
They got rekt by everyone. Mongols, Manchu, Europeans, Japanese.
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>>173637378
Delete this
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>>173637230
europeans were overpowered irl

we like to make fun of napoleon for his short stature, but he was actually of average height at the time.
He'd still be at like the world average height.

Back east though, the average height were like 2'10 until europeans arrived
>>
>>173631879
If you're playing on normal difficulty you shouldn't have any trouble fighting wars against double your numbers as Shimazu, they have 10% morale and -1% army trad. decay. They're great, just ally Uesugi and Hakateyama to make sure they don't ally your rivals, and you'll be fine.
>>
>First campaign on Vanilla CK2

Managed to unite Ireland, what do now?

Kinda feel like sitting back and making my kingdom super rich and shit while watching the ai
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>>173636609
he's either lying or must be really stupid

>inb4 mods
nobody cares about your mod
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>>173637889
Start as somebody's vassal and take over.
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>>173637889
I'm doing my first campaign and also playing as Ireland, when did you unite it? I've been playing for ~40 years and I only have a small duchy. If this were EU I would have united the whole island by this time.
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>>173637994
>tea is an everyday need for literally every farmer in the world
epic my dude
>>
>>173638182
Only took me about 40-50 years. I just used my Chancellor to fabricate claims then slowly take over all the little counties.
>>
>>173635969

Ok so I installed it, is it supposed to start in 1936?
>>
1. Monks and Mystics download where
2. Sex mods that work with Monks and Mystics where
>>
>>173638182
not him, but it's easy as fuck to become king in under 30 years
>fabricate claims until you are a duke or start as a duke (conquer dejure territory or revoke it via plot)
>find claimants to irish counties
>make them vassals and press their claims
>fabricate claims on what is left
>create the kingdom title and vassalize everyone
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>>173603661
>only numbers matt-
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>>173638736
>>173638396
My chancellors all die before the claims are fabricated. I don't know whether that resets the fabrication, but I would think so it takes so long to make each claim.

But I licked out into a wedding with a minor Spanish noble that eventually became queen of Leon, so my son is all set to inherit it. When that eventually happens, I'm not sure whether to continue focus on Ireland or move definitively to playing in Iberia. My initial plan was to make an Irish-Welsh kingdom, now everything's up int the air.
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is it worth it to free the slaves? What's their value except for roleplaying?
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>>173638982
You basically cannot industrialize until slaves are free. You dont even have that many as Portugal so its nbd
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>>173603671
Black and not based
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>>173634332
Google how to remove water from Ck2, the game is lighter and faster once you do that. It's on one of the ini files. And performance has imporve d alot in the last few patches, so you should update.
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>>173603671
white men
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>>173638982
More reforms means more immigrants, that's about it.
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Is HOI4 playable yet?
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>>173638510
yes
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whats best gsg and nation to play if i hate white people
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>>173640079
After the End with the Dark World mod, breed the white men out of existence
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>>173640079
eu4, ottoman
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>>173640204
fuck that ottomans are white devils
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>>173640305
ck2, byzantines
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>>>>>>>>>>need an accouint to access links on that russian site now

Remove that fucking shit from the OP
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>>173640530
Remove yourself from the genepool, pirate rapist.
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>>173640031
thank you my friend.
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>>173640671
Your screams only make me more determined.
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EU: Rome 2 WHEN?!
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>>173603671
White Men
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>>173641012
Now?
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>>173641012
Soon. It's one of the announcements at PDXcon
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>>173641357
Victoria 3 when I just want EU4 extended to 1930
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As a nomadic nation should I be running 100% cav armies with one made of inf and art for sieging?
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How do I get good generals in EU4
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>>173641571
if you can afford it sure
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>>173641629
It's luck but if you choose Offensive ideas you can tip the dice rolls slightly.
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>>173641771
>>173641771
Forgot to say, you get high army tradition by sieging shit down. Army Tradition also skews the dice rolls in your favour.
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Haven't gotten an incident yet, can anyone confirm that wokuo works like this?

Just been reading the txt
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>>173635205
>That Moortugal
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Cold War game WHEN?!
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I'm playing hoi4 kaiserreich
r8
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>>173642181
10/10
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>>173642106

I want this too. Had to settle for Darkest Hour New World Order 2 mod.
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>>173641629
get them from the nobility

stack army tradition
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>>173641629
Army tradition and things like + Land Leader Shock.

I think on average 20 army tradition gives you 0.48 land leader shock, land leader fire and land leader maneuver, and 0.16 siege.


So Offensive, Defensive, Quality and Aristocratic ideas helps you get better generals.
There are also some policies that help you get better generals.

Like Humanist-Quantity, Expansion-Quality, Offensive-Quality, Quantity-Exploration, Espionage-Quality.
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Can I add Misri as accepted culture as Arabian Union?
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Holy shit this guy Arumba. How cn someone so ugly be so good at the game
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When's the time to tell Ming to go fuck themselves? I feel like the chinks will outnumber me even if I take full quantity. And then they can still spam mercenaries for years.
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>>173619343
They were rivals for hundreds of years. In the span of 50 years they were allied in war.
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>>173642830
Go 100% cav banners and fight in the steppe. Stackwipe them repeatedly then grab Beijing. Ally the other steppes if you want.
Before that I think I would eat Buryatia and Korea, though.
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>>173643238
Can I add Misri as accepted culture as Arabian Union?
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>>173643238

I've been putting off annexing the snowchinks due to inflation from the goldmine and horde unity issues because of development, they make a nice vassal anyway. Korea's dead soon, though.
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>>173643713
>I've been putting off annexing the snowchinks due to inflation from the goldmine
It's a bad meme.
Take the gold mine and increase its base production.
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What should I do from here? The King of Brittany is of my dynasty, and a nephew of my dynasty is about to inherit the duchy of Flanders. This character's great-great grandfather helped the king of england conquer the holy land, and Sicily has assisted the anglo-saxons (william failed) through two jihads.

What now? Corsica obviously. I'll probably try and conquer the rest of the kingdom of africa from Pisa and then maybe expand into egypt.

What other thrones should I try and put my family members on?
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Lad- just formed grossnipponiums, want to make some GREATER PROSPERITY SPHERE
but ming which probs has 1000000k troops in 1500 is protecting korea
what do?
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Is HPM dead?
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>>173644569
He died in China
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>>173615453
anyone have the commie wiz edit?
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>>173635949
Was. Still vassalizing Brittany, Denmark and Greece. Even vassalized the Knights to feed them Sicily but holy fuck Spain has got obscene amounts of unit discipline and morale, being allied to Scandis I had to accept only feeding Denmark.

Right now I'm about to turn France into an enclave. I've run out of time for anything else.

>>173636383
Pretty shit at first, I had to handle accepted cultures and states all over again on top of deleting tons of units before fixing my economy and making manufactories.
Somehow Tuscany had over 40k in treasury, I kept bullying it for gold instead of territory.
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>>173644887
And this is the end of my failure of a game.
Denmark and Brittany did not annex in time.
England was just stuck with those rebels forever.
There's actually a some colonized Siberian land by Muscovy and Ming somehow is getting its shit beat in by Qing. Ming did colonize Western Mexico somehow but stopped at that.

I need to take a shower. At least Greece is alright.
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>>173646014
fuck
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>>173646180

I think that's the first time I've seen the AI form Qing. 1444 start?
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>>173646345
Yeah.
I however do not have the latest DLC. I wonder if AI nations have features disabled that way.
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>>173603931
no bugs, but there are some mechanics that should be fixed imo, like the fact that after you force a tributary it can immediately cancel it

also Ming I expected more Ming/quing events and decisions
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>>173605295
It's just the placeholder gov when the game doesn't have a defined government for your laws.
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Why did Ming collapse anyways. They used to in game but for a while now they stay strong through the whole game.
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Does NWO2 for Darkest Hour work if you play from 1936?

Or does its events only trigger if you play from the 1945 start?
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>>173642830
The sooner the better for telling Ming to fuck off as they won't get the frontier disaster if you are paying tribute. You just have to hope you can last the fifteen years or so it takes to trigger without Ming coming to take their tribute by force.
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i'm playing HPM as UK for the first time. Is it necessary to do the Webster–Ashburton Treaty, or is there alternative outcomes besides the US getting more territory?
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>>173646180
Even more weird shit, the game didn't end in 1821.
It just kept going without giving me the ending report.
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thread ded?
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>>173630717
lads, please, someone help
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>>173649295
you have to send a missionary there so the rebels become religious
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>>173647265

Anyone know the answer to this?
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>>173632056
>LaFayette dynasty rules the US
I actually love it
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>>173649295
Send missionary and lower missionary maintenance to 0 so they don't progress. You can do the same thing for Zoroastrian Timurids.
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>>173649295
or just release and play as siemens.
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>>173648193
bump
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>>173649450
>>173650320
>>173650623
Thanks laddos! I just completely forgot about missionary maintenance. Zoroastrian persia was easier because I just put dhimmis on yazd so i could make them mad, but here they would get converted before spawning rebels. Time to conquer kangfrica with african american jews
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I didn't ask for this PU
I did ask for this mended schism.
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>>173651198
beta israel has a better fit in terms of national ideas
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>>173651372
holy shit this looks great
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How do you get personal unions anyways, is it just luck?
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>>173651372
>those perfect ideas
I'm shit, but this might actually work. Fuck converting ethiopia, time to savescum as semien
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Does increased core cost actually discourage ai from declaring on you to begin with?
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Give me some lewd mods for CK2
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>>173652405
I've heard that it does but it's more likely that it just reduces the mount of provinces they'll ask if they win.
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>>173652414
no
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Ck2 can you go faster than the 5x speed or is that it
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I'm so bored of Vicky. Are there any totally unique playthroughs you can do? I've done most if not all of the supposedly good ones.

Never touched Malaysia/Indonesia but I don't see what could be done there (?). I wish Qing was still semi-viable because it was my old favourite country to play.
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>>173652872
Speed 5 goes as fast as your processor can go
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>>173652405
I think hungary was always left intact early on when they hade +200% core creation cost.
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>>173651646
luck or savescumming, if you have the same dynasty and royal marriage you can claim the throne and enforce the union via cb

the latter is the only way to PU someone who already has a PU of their own
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>>173642830
When this happens.

Also, step it the fuck up.
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>>173653003
How many hours? In SEA I've had moderate enjoyment on a Lanfang run, but after 2k hours there's only so much fun you can have. The only time gsg is fun anymore is when I read up on the history of some obscure country and unleash the autism on Vicky, maybe that could work?
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How does my 5 province Caribbean colony have claims on inland Ming provinces?
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how the fuck do you legitimately form Jerusalem in single player
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>>173654612
1. start as Cyprus or Knights
2. git gud
3. Form Jerusalem
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>>173654697
>2. git gud

I'm having trouble with that. Especially since you have to do it before 1650.
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>>173654612
>play as ottomans
>vassalize knights
>grant provinces to knights, let them core them
>annex knights
>let christians convert those provinces
>delete your armies
>release and play as the knights
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>>173603671
based
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Is it true that Iran/Persia had succesfully modernized itself during the 19th century just like Japan did or is that all Persiaboo hogwash I've heard during Vicky2 days?
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>>173656064

It did not, Persia took a ton of hits like the Ottomans, and they wouldn't modernize until under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Shah and his successors.

Their GDP was the best in the region until the Iranian revolution. Iran is today a top 20 economy only beat by Turkey and Saudi Arabia in the region.
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>>173656064
naeh
mid 20th century sure, but then cia and mi6 were spooked by gommies and nationalization of their so they accidentally led an islamic revolution on them, thus rip secular iran westernlike iran.
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probably old news, thought about it for a long time, but never cared to test it.

Colonized to get a colonial nation with console, then I colonized some areas outside the colonial region.
Couldn't grant the first island to the colonial state, since there was no connection(adjacent by land or shared ocean tile), but found another one that had a shared ocean tile and could from there on keep granting provinces to the colonial state.
Counted for the merchant.

Looks like you could get a colonial state over to the new world that way.
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just got hearts of iron 4 played the tutorial so understand how to do everything but still unsure on a lot of stuff whats a good country to play as and whats the strategy
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>>173658002
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Uninstall.exe_____________________________________________________________________________
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>>173658002
You clearly dont come here ever. HoI4 is heavly frowned apon here for being clunky easy and just bad all around with a strong base that can be made into a good game after 200$ of DLC Play DH if you want a more diplomatic and choices that can actually lead to alt history. HoI3 for the best combat in a grand strat. If you must play HoI4 Uninstall.exe
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MEIOU 2.0 when?
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How to prevent soldier pops from mass demoting?
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>>173658495
Set military spending to maximum.
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>>173658002
Or, you can convince yourself to uninstall.exe by playing germany and btfo the allies and commies because of how OP you get and how idiotic the AI is.
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>>173658610
tell me more
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Just want to say I love all of you
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>>173657978
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I'm just fucking around as Shimazu, I'm shogun now and I really want to annex Sulu but I don't think I'm ready to take on Ming yet (I control Kyoto and everything but Japan isn't reunified yet, I have about half of Japan) and it's a tributary. What's the "signal" in Mandate of Heaven when I'm powerful enough to fight the Ming?
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>>173659281

Basically, as I've been reading, you have no opening or mechanic like banners that would let you conquer China a la Manchu style. You could try but it would probably take some godlike micromanagement.

The best you can possibly hope is to catch China in a giant war where it is cornered or for a explosion, neither of which is very likely. So yeah, good luck or wait for a patch.
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>>173658835
>check the ahistorical focus box on the country selection screen

>pray that poland seeks baltic cooperation, else restart

>invade poland as the allies look on the carnage with hopeless eyes

>give hungary as much land as you can from the vienna awards

>invade the soviet union before the purge finishes

>build up forces before america declares war on you for no reason other than muh freedom

>if they don't then fon't invite japan to faction because pearl harbor and invading the US is a bitch

>invade france through belgium, don't declare on netherlands, you can trade with them for muh rubber

>garrison all of your coast, send all of the expeditionaries (the armies othe countries let you control) to africa, delete all the useless divisions (have at least 90 doing this)

>make ~70 paratrooper divisions

>get air superiority in southern england

>name the paratrooper theater operation seagull

>invade the UK

>dont forget northern ireland/the rest of ireland if they joined the allies

>take all the rubber in africa because netherlands is gonna join the allies because the AI is retarded

>invade netherlands

>by this time you should have made some progress on nukes

>invade denmark, norway, iceland and greenland

>start invasion of murica through labrador/newfoundland

>nuke the shit out of them

War should be over by then, bask in the glory and go act like that rich kid from lazytown with your steamgruppe friends.
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>>173659281
>if you out galley them
block hainan, occupy the province quickly before they can come over.

Then sit on those provinces until they have 100% devastation
>if you don't out galley them
have an army ready to stackwipe their landing forces until they are exhausted.

>tributary option
eat their tributaries
>steppe horde option
ally a steppe horde and help them get to 300 dev
>git gud
git gud
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>>173659072
>look at picture
>uses thou as a plural
reeee
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>>173659620

Should I ally with the Manchu and just try to fuck up Ming China's shit with them since they get those bad events from a unified Manchu? Would that work or would I just be making a bigger monster?
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What the fuck are these borders
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>>173660191
hungry hungry hungary
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>>173660101

I can't really see a situation where you would come out on top. The Manchus will just end up getting the Mandate and whatever land you get from Ming will be worthless when the new dynasty Qing will turn on you to get back that land.

So yeah, as I said, good luck.
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>>173659281
> 平成29年
> still not going with MEIOU
They don't have fall of Ming events, but they have special mechanics for conquering China where you get free cores on the territory and a chance to essentially become Ming yourself if you manage to get a cored foothold in the region.
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>>173660191
when are they going to buff Venice
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Can anybody become the emperor of China now in the new expansion or just the Manchu?
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>>173661221
anyone bordering the current emperor that's eastern or pagan religion
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>>173661221
Anyone in eastern religion group
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>>173661221
If you have pagan or eastern religion you can take the mandate of heaven in a war.
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As Persia should i expand east or just puppet/sphere them.
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>>173639180
>You basically cannot industrialize until slaves are free.
What? Why?
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>>173661940
afghanistan and baluchistan? blob away
blob into iraq too
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>>173661940
Expand, preferably after switching to Zoroastrianism for relgroup bonuses.
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>>173662209
Oh, Vicky, not EU, my bad.
Still expand, and take Iraq, too.
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Hey thread. Want to start my first EU4 game after watching a bunch of let's plays. But... it terrifies me in ways Dwarf Fortress never did. How *do* you get into this game? It looks awesome.

CK2 looks awesome-er but it's even worse. Makes me shit bricks just at the prospect of starting a game. God damn, I used to think I was kind of smart and then I started looking at /gsg/.
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>>173644392
> north Korea has got mountains and isn't Chinese
> how do I defend Korea from Chinese doomstacks guise????
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>>173662630
Too obvious. I'll give a 2/10, it's the best I can do.
(Funny, but I still can't get into DF, while Paradox shit seems downright primitive.)
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>>173662706
laddo uve got it wrong
grosskoreaiums is tribute to ming, if declaring war on koreans it hits up ming, they have triple my forcelimit
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>>173660191
What amazes me here is the teutonic order existing
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>>173644392
pay tribute to ming, then eat korea
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>>173663328
>forcelimit
meme
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can someone remind me of the ideal army composition in victoria 2
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What should I do with the Filipino Animist Philipines?

I have Humanist, but that'll be more useful with Indonesia
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>>173663680
2 cav, 2 inf, 1 eng, 1 hus
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>>173664393
FRANKIE SINATRA
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>((()))
is paradoxplaza based?
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>>173664212
Can't you just conquer them?
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>>173664692
wait i'm retarded you're the red

Just convert them bro.
Maybe even culture convert since I'm assuming you've conquered a OPM. Last game I played there were not nations in the phillipines.
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If you don't have a trader in a node you don't collect any of the trade profits even if it's your home CoT?
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>>173664653
Yes. They are redpilled on the Jewish question.

>>173664861
There aren't any except for Sulu. And that's Manilla which is an important trade province.
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>>173665034
Not true. Just read the trade wiki or watch Reman's Paradox's trade video instead of asking basic questions here please.
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Playing as japan, no option in diplomacy menu to vassalise? nice game
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This game doesn't even give me pleasure any more. Shitposters tell you that Montenegro is the final form, but it's just the same as everything else! Russia will win the war with the Ottomans for you in 1840 and then you're free to go take Nigeria and do the rest. I'm still stumped for a truly unique experience (other than the usual memes). I only have 500 hours on this game so I don't want to run out of fun now.
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>>173665195
That's the thing, everything pointed out that I didn't need one but as soon as I removed my trader from my home CoT the its name vanished from the income screen.
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>>173665357
>you're free to go take Nigeria and do the rest
you can't go randomly blobbing into africa and then complain it's too easy
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>>173665424
Removing the trade reduces your income from the node but doesn't remove it. Click on the node to view further details.
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>year is 1501
>Austria still has the last jousting tournament bonus

Fucking how
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>>173665476
I didn't say it was easy, I said it wasn't fun. If I didn't blob into Africa the game would have been nothing for the next 100 years. The fun games are where it's fun because you don't need to use gimmicky methods to win. That's why Prussia and Japan are good for noobs, then Persia and Egypt past that, then truly shitpost tier countries like Montenegro or Krakow.
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>>173665610
it's not fun because it's an insignificant country that only purpose is to eventually be annexed by yugoslavia, stop complaining and play a real country
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>>173664692
My main question is weather or not to assimilate Filipino.

The only reason all of Borneo is Hindu is because they conquered all the colonized/owned provinces on the island, so I game them the rest.

In terms of Indonesia, I'll probably take a policy of tolerance and convert the Filipinos.

Still on the fence about culture policy
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>>173658835
Field hospitals are very useful, if not OP.
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What went wrong?
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Achievement unlocked.
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>>173666616
What's that red stain in the Congo?
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>>173666760
Great Britain. They made the last 40 years of the game pretty terrifying.
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>>173666616
>>173666760
>>173666952
Also, this happened.
>>
All these weeb trash retards in here playing as "muh glorious anem country"
>>>/a/
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>>173603661
im trying a new way of organizing a small, but ighly centralized realm in CK2

basically my goal is to have all obligations be harsh, crown authority at max, and basically have complete control

the way im doing this is that I gave every single barony I dont need to hold a county to one person, every single city to one person, and every single bishopric to one person, then gave them titular titles so they can efficiently organize their holdings without me

so technically I am the only ruler in bohemia atm, but now I have three 'super dukes' under me that own every single holding outside the ones i need to hold the county

the only limiter im putting on myself is that each vassal also has to be a council member and I am not allowing myself to fire them, to simulate an estates-general kind of thing

I want to see how well this works and if it falls apart at all, and if it has any real advantages over playing normally

this is CK2+ 2.4.5 btw
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>Russia and its allies declare war on you for leaving Russias sphere
>China also declares cause why not
Am i ded?
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>>173667636
your fine, china and russia are usually way behind on mil tech, which means if you hold up in the mountains in northern korea you can just wreck them
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>>173667636
what is wrong with your game
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>>173667107
That is so fucked up.
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>>173667857
Well I tried an invasion of China in 1862 and it failed miserably. (See the army named "Dishonorable Cunts") However now I'm completely blockaded and I can't get troops into Korea without risking the rest of my fleets.
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I'm tired of Mandate already. Japan Daimyo thing is a fucking meme - splendor is meh, edicts are useless and Ming blobbing gets boring fast. Only thing keeping me playing is I'm trying to emulate Florry's absolute absolutism. after that I'll just stop
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Is Mayo 1.20 ready?
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Should I?
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>lose one battle
>quit game, uninstall
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>>173669195
Jesus is the way, Anon.
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>>173669423
>not editing the save and reloading to curb stomp them

c'mon
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>>173669512
>tfw don't need to edit the save because I'm too casual to play on ironman
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>>173669512
>not creating a whole new mod just so you can win that specific battle
atleast you tried
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>>173669486
So what happens if the emperor of China becomes catholic? Do you get to become HRE as well?
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Damn I miss MEIOU. Playing Italian is fun in MEIOU.
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>>173668123
>vanilla
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>>173669801
yes

you need to be eastern to get emperor but you don't have to stay eastern
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>>173669423
I don't know anon, I lost the war in Korea and now I'm a great power.
>>173670152
I just redownloaded the game after months of not playing and I just want to remember how to play first.
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How do I go about starting a Hebrew Merchant Republic in the Levant?
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>>173670824
khazars
get sunni moral authroty to 0
create a bunch of buffer states around the levant
settle as merchant republic
get ashkenazi refugees so you can become white
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>>173671115
>get ashkenazi refugees so you can become white
Their skin's too weak
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>>173636416
>mfw black death doesn't even touch my beautiful city while people are dying all over
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>>173668236
I agree, nothing got added that I actually wanted. The decrease in state limit made late game incredibly boring. The best thing they added in this shitty DLC is probably better Naples ideas, and that was in the free patch.
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>>173671156
>Jews
>White
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>>173673009
I don't like gingers and eurotrash, and frenchies get the benchies.
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>Get roflstomped
>Still considered a great power
Huge Success!
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>>173672853
Oh I forgot, the diplo manager is actually a really nice improvement.
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Guys Imma RP as Vogons when I get back home. Who /vogon poetry/ with me?
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So if I move my capital to and Island like the one south of Korea as Ming I don't get any penalties to not having tributaries for Mandate right?
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One on one me motherfucker I dare you
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>>173674207
*kills u with 3 combat skill*
heh, nice try kid
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>can't even see mod threads on the plaza unless you have an account AND confirmed your copy of ck2
fucking christ, does the jewry ever end?
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Turns out "Coastal Barrage" from the reformation age gives you an extra siege pip for inland sieges.
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>>173675132
The 10 bucks I spent on EU4 the base game I feel was worth it for the easy access to mods and what not.
>>173675158
I guess you could handwave it in that some forts were on the coast of rivers and lakes so large that having a mini navy to help with the siege may had been needed and the abbility is just showing it being put into action. That little mechanic is good to know though I love stacking siege pips.
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>>173675537
Seems like a must grab every game really. Special
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>>173675537
I have the base game but I still don't feel like linking my account to anything
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You should start your golden age as soon as possible right?
Also, they need to buff Ming.
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>>173675985
As said many times before use it when you plan to do your most important waring. So in your case I would click that the same day you next attack Ming.
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>>173676089
Ming isn't a threat. They have the same forcelimit as me, and they fucking melt.
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>>173676242
Due to the new china mechanic you are about to be unbeatable in war. I would use it in like a century when you really are china and have a ton of tributaries. Then use all that free mana with the golden age to hyper develop cause why not.
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I really don't want to go to 4X general, but is Stellaris any good?
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>>173676343
We don't care about what you want. Go to the 4x general.
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>>173676393

I respect /gsg/'s opinion more than those fags though.
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>>173676491
And I don't care what attachment you have to random anonymous strangers, who might as well be the same people that are answering in another general. Go ask in the 4x general.
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>>173676315
I've been unbeatable from the start. My raise host gave me a 2/4/2/2 general at the start of the game. I wiped both haixi and yern within 10 years, then stackwiped ming outnumbered 2/1.

They really, really need to buff ming and nurf the hordes.
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>>173675985
how do you even manchu now

rush while they're distracted by oirat or chagatai or something?
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>>173676343
It's fine. Buy it next patch. It'll be decent.
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>>173676641
See >>173676617
Form manchu in the first decade, then invade ming while you can crush them.
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>>173676890
well I'm at 1486 right now, removed the other tribes but probably wasted time eating half of korea

I've got 35k units to their 100k max, I know horde units are strong but is that really enough?
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>>173677006
Too slow. They already have mil tech 6 bruv
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And after nearly a million men dead, mostly thanks to fucking Netherlands taking the capital of liege so I couldn't do it instantly, the false empire is dead.
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>>173675537
Yeah, makes perfect sense it only applies for a period of 100 years.
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>>173677047
We're both at 7.

I figured already I should have hit them when they were fighting chagatai. Guess I'll start over.
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>>173677103
You could try, if you get lucky they split their armies up and you can fight individual ones.
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>>173677194
I'll just dow them and see what happens

How do I into banners? Should I go way over forcelimit and spam or would what I have be enough?
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>>173677345
What? Always have all your banners. They are the best unit you have.
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>>173677404
Should I even build regular units then? Corruption seems to be the only negative to having them.

Got shrekt by Ming so I'm starting again.
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>>173677761
well shit

looks like that great wall won't be a problem
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>>173621989
Show ledger filtering for Ming pls

>>173637139
Butthurt ignorant chinks were a mistake
t. chink
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>>173677663
epic lad.
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>>173657372
>accidentally
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>>173678814
What?
They deserved it.
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Hmmmm, really activates my almonds.
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>>173678875
>HoI IV
>activating anything but
$cd
$cd Hearts\ of\ Iron\ IV/
$rm *
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>>173678850
so how does your map look at the end
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>>173679364
>end
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>brits actually winning my wars

wew
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>>173679552
>epic Byzantine conquest.
>epic
wew lad even the game knows.
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>>173679552
What's the candle and paper?
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>>173677940
well I took anon's advice and went fast, this is me now

ming finished fighting chagatai, at 60k with no manpower

should I pull the trigger? I'm fucking scared man
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Been playing the latest CK2 expansions lately.
Really enjoy this monks expansion.
Devil worshippers are pretty OP though, you can kidnap absolutely anybody for a measly 50 dark power
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>>173680083
Do it, what's the worst that could happen xD
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>>173680506
fucking stackwiping 30k chinks is what happened

seiging all my garbage land but fuck it

also fucking ming stole my vassal when I broke tributary
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>>173680083
History of the game.

For anyone interested the save after the first war with the Ottomans is here.
https://mega.nz/fm/s3QwRYYS
It's not the best start, but it's better than trying and failing dozens of times to get of the ground.
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>>173680615
fucking nigger korea trying to enforce peace

i dont think this is gonna work
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>>173680834
I played Korea once.
Got a royal marriage and inherited all of China.
That was a good game.
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/gsg/ the stupid gooks have refused my peace offer three times now.
What is going on?
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>>173680834
took 12 loans but we fucking did it boys

totally didn't give away land to korea or anything
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>>173681592
>mandate
was worth it anyway
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>>173681759
well I'm now losing mandate from having no tributaries so it might not have been the best idea
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So how does the Mandate of Heaven work in EUIV?
I know of the original Chinese concept,but what about the game version?
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>>173681935
What's mandate of empire?
I thought China had to deal with the celestial empire stuff instead
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>>173681592
>>173681836
When you have the chance retake the provinces you gave up and establish a tributary in Korea
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>>173681592
Never take mandate in the first war for it.
Fuck, never take it in the first 4 wars for it.
Every war after the first he's weaker and weaker. When you take the mandate he loses all the penalties (15% less moral, 50% more damage taken)
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>>173681836
pick on someone weak, make them tributary
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>>173682087
They don't get any negatives? I thought they got the modifier and probably explode afterward. Hope I didn't fuck myself too badly here

worst case I can just load another save and do the war over again
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>>173682247
>not ironman

come on anon
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>>173682247
No Paradox fucked it. When you take the Mandate Ming keeps all of their tributaries and suffers no serious penalties while you get fucked for having low mandate.
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>>173682247
The 50% damage penalty is tied to the mandate When Ming lost the mandate, they lost that penalty. You get it now. If you switch to Qing they also lose the 15% morale penalty because you're no longer a horde.

I didn't take the mandate till all that was left of ming was the area inside the circle.
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>>173682289
It is, I just copied the 1444 save because a 3 seige starting general was too good not to

>>173682290
Yeah that's pretty stupid. I'll try to salvage something out of the current go but I'll probably just restart if it goes badly
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>>173672853
Can you post the ideas now and before
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JUST
how do I recover from this shit?
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>>173682885
Give estates to the nobility, as even if you invest mana that increases max manpower not manpower per month
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>Oirat drags me into a war against Ming that I'm winning on my own
>suddenly realise as I am not the warleader I won't get shit in the peace

fug
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>>173682885

>open command line : ~
>manpower 100
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Playing HPMeme as Romania, how the fuck do I take the 'Claim the Tisa' decision? There's like 25% Romanians in Pančevo but it won't let me. Should I just mod it out?
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>>173683346
allies are unnecessary for manchu, especially ones on Ming's chopping block like Oirat and Chagatai

I say white peace and let them deal with it
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>>173683498
Oirat pretty much peaced out as soon as I posted that. I got a province and they dealt with my rebels so in the end it wasn't too bad.
I'm a bit miffed that Ming is still gaining mandate despite having none of the nomads on its Northern border as tributaries.
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Is MEIOU and Taxes 2.0 supposed to fix India always keeping pace with Europe in tech? As it is it's almost impossible to do a colonial game, because Indian powers are almost always more developed than Europeans, equally technologically advanced, and in alliances with one another.
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>>173683368
1910 and the panama canal isn't built?
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>>173683346
>ally useugi for security
>never come to my help
>my naval battles win them the shogun war
>I become independent for some reason
>they break alliance and annex me
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>>173683712
The worst part is even their autism can't code east India companies
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>>173684119
America broke up and now all they do is beat each other up over Ohio.
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This is quite a specific query but I'll ask anyway:

I've been playing Darkest Hour with the New World Order 2 mod.

I started as the UK in 1936 and it feels like events aren't happening properly. For instance, WW2 didn't even happen in Europe (Japan still invaded be in SE Asia) and I've got to 1972 without the Korean War or Vietnam happening.

Does the mod only work if you start at its 1945 scenario? I thought the whole point was to keep the game playable after World War 2, which implies that you should be able to play through from 1936.
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>>173684180
you can create indian colony via decision if you own a lot of clay in india
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Comfy mods for Ck2 like the castle one?
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>>173684180
What do you mean? As >>173684417 says you can use a decision to create a new Indian colony as long as you have 10 provinces in India. I haven't done it yet--although I have the option to--but it seems that they've at least taken it into better account than Paradox has.
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where can i grab a download for eu4 that has functioning multiplayer?
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>>173684218
events after 1945 rely on a cold_war flag that only starts once the Axis is defeated, so if WWII didn't happen then Cold War events won't trigger. The World War should have happened though, I played the mod from 1933 and it did. Did the poles cede Danzig or what?
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I think I broke Ming. They started this war with an army of 60k. Then after a series of battles they were down to twenty and didn't raise any new mercs and now I have them down to 10 and again no new mercs.
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>>173684519

Thanks for your answer. I don't know what happened really. The Germans got Czechoslovakia and then nothing happened.

Eventually I just reloaded the game as the Soviet Union and declared war on Germany. The Soviets got wrecked until France and I destroyed Germany. Then Soviet Union invaded Europe so we went to war with them and turned it into a democracy after annexation (the US went full nuclear and bombed everywhere in Russia).

Come to think of it that's probably the reason nothing happened, right? Because the USSR didn't exist anymore.
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>>173682885
eyyy macarena
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>>173685031
>actually being so bad to declare bankruptcy
wewus ladicus
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Thinking about going like this for a merchant republic in coop.
Thoughts?


Considered aristocratic as a 3rd idea for the navy tradition decay, but it's like the only one in there I'd want and at that point I'd much much rather want expansion, exploration, maritime.
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>>173685528
>haiti above america
what went right?
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>>173685601
What nation do you intend to play as? That'll really determine what you should do. Exploration and expansion both as a central European merchant republic is a really questionable prospect, for example, because you'd need to conquer broadly to be able to usefully extract from whatever colonies you were creating.

I would also question quality over quantity. Quality is a bit of a meme these days, really only useful for powers like Brandenburg which can create super-troops. On its own, with a power without specific military ideas, a small increase in quality is less helpful than a large increase in total troop count and how long you can fight an attritional war, alongside the reduction in cost for maintaining units that quantity provides.
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>>173685703
gommunism
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>>173685703
It's because Americans have no ambition.
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>>173685528
post ideas
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Any tips for playing Scandinavia in Divergences of Darkness
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What flavour for V2 is needed ?
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What should I call my future colony in California?

Kita Kaigan is from Divergence of Darkness
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I'm thinking about dropping Humanist for Religious, just for missionaries and culture cost down.
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>>173685996
>blobbing
Release client states in everything past peak Roman borders desu laddo
Roman Germany looks shit
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>>173686116
>empire with no borders.
>bitching about that empire not having aesthetic borders
disdainforplebs.jpg
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>>173686116
>Roman Germany looks shit
Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed they didn't even bother with Roman names for the German, or even Hibernian and Pict provinces.
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Ming is being annoying as fuck creating tributaries in India but I can deal with them. How am I going to kill the Ottomans though? They just keep blobbing bigger and bigger and nobody wants to help me stop them.
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>>173685726
>What nation do you intend to play as? That'll really determine what you should do.
Ah right. Kono in japan.

My first question is really the 3rd idea group.
First thought aristocratic, but I would only take that at that point because I wouldn't be able to take it later, would go to adm tech 10, open aristo then form merch republic, but it's such a low tempo play.

Maritime is useful right away thanks to naval tradition(you get trade steering from that, and better admirals isn't bad).
I don't think I'll steer that much trade at that point though, it'll be a while until I can confirm thalassacracy anyways.

I can start colonizing as soon as I get explo/expansion. One player is moving his cap to japan, I will get the trade provinces there.
I can aid his expansion there by colonizing and giving provinces up, I can colonize down to south asia, get borders and claims to help the other daimyos to expand. I can work on getting australian colonial states for +merchants. Won't be able to use that many merchants right now, but eventually I can use as many as I can get my hands on.
Expansion has a relevant trade policy with trade, naval force limit policy with maritime. And a merchant on its own.


>On its own, with a power without specific military ideas, a small increase in quality is less helpful than a large

Ah yeah I'm not taking it for fighting on land.

For the naval focused merchant republic the 20% trade efficiency policy and the naval combat bonuses is actually the draw of Quality though.
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>spains troops glitch and they cant move
>playing as Portugal
>take all their coastal provinces
>scotland btfo england
/comfy/ af
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>>173686214
This was my solution back in pre RoM.

I guess Ming isn't that keen on allying people anymore though.
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>>173686235
If you're doing a cooperative game it really doesn't matter what you do, desu, since you're not going to be in threat from any of them.

If you want to maximize profits, the order that you've suggested is probably your best bet. You'll want to get colonizing as soon as possible, so doing exploration/expansion at 3rd and 4th is a good idea.
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>>173686385
Ming hates me and pretty much everyone else in the world who isn't their tributary. Plus the Ottomans have already beat them up once with minimal effort so I doubt they would even be useful.

I'm still expanding but the Ottomans had a huge headstart on me because I formed Mughals from Oman, they were 1k development before I was even near them.
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>>173686196
>not using rossetta mod .
i see.
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>>173686590
>I formed Mughals from Oman,
neat
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>>173686235
Does it work with in progress games?
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>>173686717
>>173686605
Whoops
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>>173686717
Does what work?
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>>173686590
help europeans if they are against the ottoshits
around 1700 ottoshit armies turn to shit, and euros can walk over them
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so everyones saying that ming is strong now, but europeans can still wreck them with superior western units right...?
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>>173687039
That hasn't been a thing since AoW. Pips are fairly similar between tech groups, and the tech group who has slightly more pips isn't always western.
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>>173686802
Sorry I meant to reply to >>173686605
about the mod
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>>173684492
You still need to conquer it as a nation instead of your gentry going out and making a name for themselves, who only warred the local lord not the Mughal empire itself.
It should be something like merc companies in CK2, where you equip them but they do their own thing
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>>173687134
Western tech group beats chinese tech group in cav at least.

Chinese stays at cav shock three very late in the game.
Western gets better cav at like 18 and then is always better than china, having 2 more cav shock at times.
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>>173685601
WHAT happens if you fully invested in plutocratic ideas then switch to monarchy
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>>173687507
You keep your plutocratic ideas and you can pick aristocratic ideas as well.
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>>173686116
>Roman Germany is ahistorical
What is the HRE
>>
>>173687347
Yeah, but you can't blame them for that. The estates system as it exists in M&T 1.0 couldn't handle something like that.

Now, the states in M&T 2.0, since they make their own money, feasibly could. A nation with strong burghers could feasibly outfit their own army, and a tag could be created which could represent a "company" founded by the burghers of your country, invading foreign nations with the goal of securing land and trade. In fact, that's a really good suggestion which should probably be made when 2.0 comes out.
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>>173686329
>oldest ally BTFO
>this makes you happy
But y
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This is the state of Ming. They are five thousand ducats in debt and they are still declaring wars left and right on the steppe nomads.
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Has eu4 wiki updated to have all Japanese ideas now?
>>173687683
Do they browse Reddit or post here?
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>>173687729
Blame paradox removing the cav ratios, which I still don't get btw so a flow chart would be great, k thanks bye
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>>173687875
>Meiou & "Genocide is disabled" Taxes
>browsing here
lel
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>>173687934
>removing the cav ratios
What?
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>>173687875
http://www.eu4wiki.com/National_ideas#Date
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>>173687875
>Do they browse Reddit or post here?
I don't know about reddit. I would be willing to bet money they've never even been here, much less posted.

Enough anon have access to the paradox forums that they could probably bring it up when 2.0 is released. I could do it myself, provided I remember.
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>>173687934
What are you talking about?
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>>173687696

England has always abused and bullied Moortugal, it's a meme alliance. Death to the perfidious albion.
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>>173688325
The anount of cav tou can now have in an army depends on your religion not tech group, check the Dev diary and patch notes
>>173688093
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>>173687326
>>173686802
>>173686717
>>173686791
im not really sure since i havent played a game without it but i think it should, just in case install it copy and paste your game change the name and use that one with the mod. it should add decisions and pop up an event after you start it again asking you if you want to change the names of the regions you own.
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>>173687618

Something that wasn't holy, roman or an empire.
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>>173688118
What are the black bars, just because some ideas do two thing?
And is Shizmazu agreed to be the best daiymo just like in total war?
>>173688297
Do it as Blood Ravens
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>>173688571
>Reddit spacing
>>173688345
>what is saving one of your princesses from scandal
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>>173688493
>Cavalry Ratios removed from techgroup, and added to other modifiers. Default is 50%.
>Steppe Horde government now have +25% Cavalry Ratio.
>Winged Hussars Idea gives +10% Cavalry Ratio now.
>Happy Cossacks Estates give +10% Cavalry Ratio now.
>Sunni Religion lost tolerance own, but gained +10% Cavalry Ratio.
>Tengri lost 2 unrest, but gained +25% Cavalry Ratio.

Bah.
Just because I figured out how to become poland with nomad tech group.


Thought muslims could go 100% cav since the +20% cav ratio from splendor, but they're at 50+10=60% now instead of at 80%.

Muslim hordes are shit now.
I assume you can't have a syncretic faith and keep the cavalry ratio so Tengri faith is all of a sudden really boring if you're horde.
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>>173688691
Hordes are poorer than ever now so it's not like you can afford all that cav anyway.
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>>173688593
>What are the black bars, just because some ideas do two thing?
Black cells = nothing.

The combat ideas are condensed in a number in the 2nd column, so daimyos with less combat ideas like Toki fills up more columns than Uesegi.

I think Uesegi is slightly better.
Starts with more provinces, possibly slightly better combat, but in the same ballpark. Not sure about the econ. I think 25% reinforce cost is better than 10% tax.
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>>173688774
I don't see how the money has changed.

Full cav still looks completely doable when I'm looking at the upkeep.
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>>173688974
You have fewer states now and horde states are usually terrible.
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>now this is podracing
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>>173688835
Uesgi is clearly the noob province though, whilst Shizmazu will actually be rewarding. Kind of like Muscovy vs Novgorod forming Russia. Also I plan to do 'Greater Asian Co-Prosperity sphere' and then stop, so see +10 tax is better.
What ideas do you think are best. Last time I went for colonisation, but by the time I got the 10 province in Taiwan, Uesugi had become shogun and then annexed me. Also developed until I had 9 force limit, should i do that again or no.
Barques privateering and having 2 galleys scuttled means you'll always win naval battles and can turn a profit in peace unlike your army
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>>173689079
Coalition war? Or Saxony outhapsburged Austria
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>>173689050
Doesn't really affect hordes that much.
The states meant less to them than others.
It closes the gap more than anything.
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>>173689230
I used to be Emperor and fucked Austira's diplomacy up with unlawful territory. Then converted to protestant when my economy went bust and saxony became emperor
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>playing CK2
>play duchy of normandy
>change the succession to elective monarchy
>can't vote for a heir of my choosing: the heir of the duchy defaults to the king and rest of the titles go to my firstborn: whenever I try to vote for an heir it won't proc even though the person chosen gets a "Chosen Successor" opinion boost. only elector in the duchy
>upon dying the king gets the main title and my firstborn gets all the county titles but not the duke title

What gives? Shit's bugged
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>>173689156
>Uesgi is clearly the noob province though, whilst Shizmazu will actually be rewarding.
I thought you were asking which one was the best.

> Also I plan to do 'Greater Asian Co-Prosperity sphere' and then stop, so see +10 tax is better.
You should consider Amago then.
Still good combat and 10% goods produced is better.

Or even Otomi for even better econ ideas.
Just realized that Shiba also has the prodeff+goodsproduced combo.


Try to be aware of the rivers in japan and don't cross them to fight.
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>>173689414
why would you start that coalition war
i usually stay out of leagues until im ready then launch it if the AI havent already since i target catholics
france and ottomans usually rival austria so thats a very one sided war most of the time
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>>173687975
>implying anyone wasted bird points on converting cultures and implying it made sense in first place
>implying you cant genocide cultures through various policies in mayo that actually make sense
or are you referring to something else
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Is there a way to raise infantry banners as Manchu?
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>>173608784
Found the cockroach
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>>173689882
can't attack natives lad
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>>173690074
The unit type of banner units seems to be random, but heavily weighted towards cavarly. I've got about thirty banners raised currently in my game but only three are infantry.
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>>173690174
You mean native american nations or natives when you colonize stuff? You can attack both of them.
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>>173690174
You can through event chain, I think.
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new to eu4 what do I do with my military monarch points? Do I use them for tech or to increase man power in my counties?
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>ansbach
hmmm
hmmmmmm
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>173689814
>coalition war
it's not one
>>
>infidels raid your coast for centuries, stealing gold and people to enslave
>this doesn't give a CB by itself
explain this paracocks
>>
>japan lost 5% disc
>manchu basically lost 10% disc
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>>173690536
>second Rome has fallen
>unless I inherit Hungary I have no casus beli
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>>173690691
>second rome
You mean this city
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Georgia
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>>173690536
they are just problematic minority, most of vikings are good pacifistic bois who didnu nuffin
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>top of the catalog page
Either doing something very right or something very wrong, family.

Rate my Manchu?

Turns out it's actually -super- easy to take down Ming; even at same mil tech, Manchu just way out-classes Ming. It also turns out Qing is not worth forming until (a) Ming is no longer a thread and (b) you are ready to really start blobbing into China (trading awesome Horde units for permacores).
>>
cav ratio change to horde makes me upset.


no more custom nation norse horde.
>>
>>173690393

I generally use them to tech up whenever it hits the -5% cost and use the rest of it to develop provinces
>>
Can you grant independence to colonials somehow in peace?
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>>173691437
Release colony in Subject tab.
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>>173691126
Tengri w/o syncretic faith gets +25% cav/inf ratio, for 100% total.
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Are there only two ways you can create a colonial nation?
>1
Get 5 core provinces in a colonial region
>2
integrate a country with colonial nations

Is there a 3rd way?
I'm looking into ways to get more colonial nations out of a single colonial region like australia.

>>173691478
thanks, I was looking at that tab, but I missed it.
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>>173677663
>denmark
too far. elbe is as far as you can go without being a blob
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>>173691597
>Tengri w/o syncretic faith gets +25% cav/inf ratio, for 100% total.
Yes.
Which means you're required to be tengri w/ o syncretic faith to get 100%, so no more custom nation norse horde

no shinto syncretic for 5% disc as manchu
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>>173691716
O-Oh.
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>>173690934
What should my first Military idea group be, as Manchu/Qing?

I feel like Quantity is kind of a non-starter with the new banner mechanic. Maybe I want to go for Quality into Econ/Inno to compensate for shitty Chinese units as Qing? Or go Aristo for utility?
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>>173692251
>taking admin as your first idea group

How original.

>taking quantity as your first military idea group

Wow never seen that happen before! This game sure makes you think am I right?
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where did FUN /gsg/ go
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>>173692465
Well it is the best combination for empires that need to expand aggressively.
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>>173692465
I don't like taking Admin first, but it makes sense if I'm going to start blobbing into China. Gotta min-max that coring cost. Will dump after I annex most of China proper. Also, I went with Quality.

>>173692251
Yeah that's right, run away.
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>>173692251
Aristo+Espio if you forsake syncretic faiths and go full cav can be useful.
Should probably forsake and go full cav anyway.

Aristo, offensive, defensive and quality can all help you with stack wipes and straight up murder.
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>>173692619
got bored
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>>173692624
Tactical AI is sticking to terrain it knows it will suck slightly less on vs hordes. Interesting.
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blocks your path meme just got real
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>>173683368
Yeah I think it's bugged
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>>173693285
>>173693285
>>173693285
>>173693285
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>>173691698
Yes.
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>>173692631
>Aristo+Espio if you forsake syncretic faiths and go full cav can be useful.
Shouldn't he be RPing?
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>>173691437
Yes.
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>>173690934
blob/10
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>>173690548
disc?
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>>173694013
discipline
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>>173694270
But they got other mechanics to make up for it
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>>173683678
You have to have 300 Dev for the disaster to fire
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>ally the King of Sweden
>he calls me into war with some two-county little runt with 500 men
>he has almost 3k
>I'm busy in my own war but w/e he'll win
>A year later
>Done with my own war, got brutally wrecked by holy wars in Ireland
>check the status of the other war
>-75%
>expressionofshockanddisbelief.calfskin
>half his country is sieged down
>count is running across his land unhindered
>he hasn´t called any vassals to his aid
>look at where he is
>Leading troops in Torzhok
>He's in fucking Russia helping his ally instead of defending his own lands
>try to siege down his lands
>can only siege one county cuz manpower is sapped
>fight off his stack time and time again
>another year later warscore is at -99%
>doesn't move
>three months later he surrenders
>He's still in fucking Torzhok

What the fuck is wrong with the AI?
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>>173699893
Paradox can't into intelligent AI.
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>>173603894
>That Slovenia
Spicy meme lad
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>>173619297

chink empress A CUTE!!
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>>173700045
Then how the fuck do I stop my allies from committing political suicide?
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>>173615453
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>>173700646
I dunno. You could try looking for a mod to make them smarter.
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