/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>No bioships/unique building skins for hive minds

What is even the point

Somebody posted this last thread.
>

Threadly link so if people ask where they can get the dlc you can just tell them to read the fucking thread and not argue with them

http://www90.zippyshare.com/v/gDMkjgdk/file.html DLCs

http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/yjKoILir/file.html Crack

For steam users- copy the creamAPI folder contents into your main stellaris folder- overwrite. Ignore everything else. Don't touch anything in the INI. Copy all the dlc folders into your stellaris dlc folder. You're done.

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looking pretty is the most important part of being the empress of a thousand worlds

>>173593832
Because lackluster ascendancies were deemed too little content for a $20 pack

>>173593939
Don't even get me started on that shit, psionic is fine but god damn if synthetic isn't barebones

>>173593927
Could you post an example?

>>173593984
Got the Basil II one?

>>173594128
>you need a general FOR EVERY SINGLE ARMY

What? I thought you only needed one to be the attacking general.

>Stellaris is a space/strategy game where multi-racial empires are not only possible but even supported
>Has planets with tiles and tile blockers
>Still does the retarded 1 biome for planet meme.

Why? Just why. Imagine how much better it would be if each planet had a unique random generated set of biomes to live in. Desert planets would be mostly inhospitable desert along the equator, with arid and savana regions closer to the poles. Every planet that's habitable should have ice and tundra zones near the poles, along with ocean tiles. Especially wet planets would be dotted with a few islands as per normal, but may have some nice tropical swamplands. This way different races would be drawn to different parts of this planet, there would be more decisions available to the player. Gaia worlds could remain mostly the same, but give a few planets a single Gaia tile or two, making them feel like a special island or well balanced valley of pure bliss among the alien world.

Replace Continental with Temperate and you got yourself all the tiles you need. Why the fuck didn't they do this?

>>173594325
thas effort

>>173594325
too much work innit

>>173594391
>>173594482

The entire point of my post was to show how it WASN'T that much more work! The entire game already has all the assets needed.

Replace oceans with entirely water based ocean tiles. You could therefore have ocean/aquatic races with less issue. Islands are not part of the tileset, it's just the random bits of land on ocean-majority planets are the isalnds.

I just really hate how every space game has to have single biome planet and they fucknig ALWAYS have a retarded 'continental' or 'earth like' world biomes for their obligatory human race. It's such a cop out. Every fucking planet with liquid water on it will have earth-like biomes based on elevation, mountain ranges, and so on. It's a simple function of the fucking weather.

>>173594325
The one-biome-per-planet is a good thing, otherwise you could take your starting species and fill up the entire galaxy with colony ships on day 1.
It's shit "realism", I admit, but it's vital for gameplay.
Pops are too interchangable already, if all of them could live on every planet you may as well not even have different species, 'cos traits don't do shit.

>>173594662
bro

thats too much work

cease and desist or i'll respectfully disagree with you

>>173594702

I'm sure you could do it. Require colonization to happen within your borders, so Outposts are more important. Make a special project to prep the planet with some of your species sperm or whatever in the oceans so you can study it and rightfully inoculate your population that will live there against any potential cellular viruses. I don't know man, shit.

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>>173593927
I want a qt vampire god-empress as my ruler 2bh

Does my synthetically ascended people not grow automatically? Do I have to build all this shit manually?

>>173594985
That'd take a way too long time compared to the game's time frame.
I prefer the "ancient empires millions years ago already did it, so your species' biology is already compatible with the other planets" version.

Stellaris still on sale. Should I get it for 25 bucks? Played a lot of Civ 4-6, enjoyed it. Played a bit of EL, was quite fun too with friends. Would I enjoy Stellaris even if I'm not that much of a fan of space stuff?

>>173595439
What made you think robots could reproduce?
Good news is they basicaly grow faster in larger pop worlds because of the flat build speed and you can dismantle all your food unless youre (for some reason) keeping xeno on your worlds.

>>173594747
Don't you dare.

>>173595605
See if you can get it cheaper somewhere else first

>>173595605
maybe

>>173595712
Already checked. With secure payment and extra payment stuff like taxes I'd save like 2 bucks.
So I guess it's not worth it's 25 bucks?

>>173595638
You'd have to keep some xeno around. Set them to domestic servitude and keep them as pets.
Or maybe battle thralls so no precious synthetics have to damage their gleaming, pristine chrome bodies.

>>173595813
If you're not really into space/scifi stuff then you're probably better off saving your money.

>>173595605
How the fuck should we know what you want to play?
watch some videos of somebody playing it and make your own decision

>>173595813
The other guy is part of the "it sucks hard and will never be worth any dollars" camp.

If you bought Civ 6 for full price then I see no reason why you should avoid Stellaris on sale. Stellaris is, at the least, better than Civ 6.

>>173596330
Its also better than Civ 5

>>173596604
>>173596330

civ 5 and 6 are both functional games

>>173595841
Thats very ineficient. Not all machines NEED to be sentient. You could just sent in hollows with the accumilated data of the top stratigests, tacticians and combat personel. Or copy minds or have them be remote operated by a server of minds.

Why can't I be a xenophile race that enslaves aliens?

It would be like a star trek-style federation, but the non-humans would be slaves. Nothing xenophobic about that, surely.

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>>173594747
>cease and desist or i'll respectfully disagree with you
You bastard...

>>173594702
>all these imaginary non-issues defeding paradox laziness
play stars in shadow

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What do next?

>>173596798
>it would be like we're all family
>except they can never leave

>>173597090
Expand I guess.
>Terran
>Not Terra
???

>>173597090
Explore, expand, exploit, exterminate?

>>173597224
>the hotel california is now a special project

>>173597090
>floating that many minerals early game
>no mining stations

>>173597256
>Sol/Helios
>terra

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>>173597256
I had it named Terra before, forgot to change it back, thanks for reminding me

>playing humans
>not naming stars after the various pagan pantheons

>>173597403
But the star isn't supposed to be called Terra. Earth is Terra.

>>173597403
what the fuck is with that left outpost? was it worth it? Nice influence gain btw.

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>>173597090
1. Cede enemy planets then either purge them and have everyone declare war on you or embrace them and have -80% happiness on all of your worlds for the rest of the game

2. Liberate then, then wait a few years for your ethos to kick in, then cede their planet and vassalize them. Also pray no other aliens invade them before you get your chance.

3. Net flix and chill, occasionally tab back in to stellaris to see if anything interesting has happened yet (It hasn't)

>>173597556

7 minerals and 4 energy credits, needed it early game
>>173597509
Fuck you the galaxy is terra now
>>173597608
I want to fight wars, but I get fucked every time

so missiles are still shit right?

and energy and kinetic fill the same role but kinetic just flat out does it better

Is there any way to increase the chances of finding some industrialised species to infiltrate? I want to play as a space jew empire and use my many minions to fight my wars.

>>173598034
Missiles are great early game because it's not likely that anyone has point defense yet, and if you're smashing Corvettes into Corvettes you'll probably win.

>>173598034
railguns will always be superior to le missiles meme and le lazors meme

>>173598034
Depends. Kinetics are better 90% of the game, plasma is probably the best overall though.

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rate my no lore guys

>>173598034
Makes sense, though. Missiles can be shot down and lasers are just silly pretty lights that makes the hull warm.

But kinetics. That's what you need when you want to fight a war and destroy ships.

>>173598559
>autarchy

How does this work in an oligarchy?

>can't terraform a world while people are living on it
Come on, guys. Just breathe deep of the terraforming gas and relax.

Childhood is hating Sister Miriam Godwinson because she declares war on you as soon as she meets you (and wins because of her bullshit power bonus)

Adulthood is realizing she did nothing wrong and is the only Alpha Centauri who doesn't go full retard

>>173598559
0/10 no lore, apply yourself

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>>173598559
Citizen Service is worthless, a wasted civic. I found out the hard way and I implore you to reconsider

Why the fuck do the AI always win in a war? they have like 50 fucking corvettes every single time and I'm still capped at 30 ships, fucking christ.

lose wars before they even begin.

>>173598771
Transcendence is realizing that Yang is what is best for all of humanity.

>>173598749
>>173598786
>>173598861
I will reconsider my choices

No lore still because I can't write worth shit

>>173598861
>shit swimmers
I like it

>>173598749
Autarchy means "internally self-sufficient", not "dictatorial".
It just means they don't trade with filthy xenos.

>>173598901
The cap is only a soft cap.
At those low numbers your fleet plus a starport should beat them.

>>173598861
What's wrong with citizen service?

>>173598949
I know what autarky is, but the way anon spelled it made me thing of autarchy which is a form individualistic anarchism.

>>173598916
But how will you roleplay anon

>a sentence or two on their traits
>a sentence or two on their civics
>maybe one about being a frog (hating birds or something I don't know)

Big bang boom, autism.

>>173598460
this, a 6xm plasma cruisers fleet will melt a superior fallen empires fleet.

>>173598559
>egalitarian and xenophobe

what the fuck are you doing my man

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>>173599010
I got absolutely fucked

>>173598559
>charismatic frogs

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>>173598935
After I realized the awfulness of Citizen Service I changed government, they're no longer Starship Troopers shit crocodiles but instead they Shadow Council from muck of their homeworld and send their robutts out to do all their mining and dying.

What are the benefits of playing tall? I know that before it was useful for getting higher research rates, is that still the case?

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>>173599207
you get to have a tiny empire that can't accomplish anything

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>>173599037
An improvement to naval cap is irrelevant because you never reach naval cap unless you play on 25% habitable planets and also forget to colonize.

>>173599107
all frogs are equal

aliens who have good traits can stay as slaves, the others can leave (no outright killing)

>>173599178
wouldn't you trust that guy?

>>173599056
Basically they're just very intelligent frogs that are EVIL! but people don't realize it because they're good at concealing their intentions. their end game goal is to transcend the weakness of their flesh through genetic therapy and also having battle thrall armies and shit to do the fighting while they live in utopian bliss

>>173599304
I don't really care about victory conditions, I just want to have more tech than my neighbours.

>>173599207
>>173599304
>>173599428

You get to shoot up your Unity tree but you will have to spill out eventually, there's no way to get enough minerals to out produce a wide empire no matter how technologically advance you are. Tech-wise, you will benefit for 90% of the game by expansions but if you got lucky with a ton of good anomalies that drop shit ton of tech, you can turtle and grow tall for the whole game.

>>173599207
Unless youre in a big federation and are running some crazy unity build, there is none. Currently hive minds dominate all cause it has huge wide advantages while also having the unity advantages.

>+9 engi modifier through event in your starting borders
rushing discovery feels like cheating.

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>>173599428
>I don't really care about victory conditions
I wish more Stellaris players realised your wisdom

post bad mods

>>173599537
>>173599554

So I'll probably go tall for a short while then spread out and kick every xeno arse I come across.

>>173599393
>There are many predators in the dense jungles of Lyrass. The Tuxkan is not one of them. Their slender frames meant that they were always vulnerable, and the Tuxkan tribes learned to revile and flee from their non-sentient neighbours. But the Tuxkan are intelligent, and a cruel violence in their nature led them from spears and bows to atomic weapons. Now they stand as masters of Lyrass, and on the cusp of the void.

>>173599648
Yes, you can try for a borders build so you can grab strategically important systems.

>>173599771
I like it.

time to play the game now and get shit on by the inevitable 4 federation builders that box me in

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Anyone know if migration is fucked up? This guy's been migrating to Jix for 20 months... for the last 40 months

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>>173599929
auspicious start

doing hyperlanes only by the way, 4 arms spiral

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Welp. They fucking killed my 65k fleet when I was trying to take down their portal.

How fucked am I?

/civ4xg/ stellaris multiplayer sessions when?

>>173600223
Well, you did post in /v/, so very.

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>>173600229
>/civ4xg/
>multiplayer

>>173600223
Prepare your angus

>>173600124
A lot of comfy chokepoints nearby. Too bad your home system is one of them.

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lol

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>>173600490
>this fucking arm

over the line

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Fuck sake

>>173600223
> Anarians not so everlasting after being subspace raped

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>symbol of unity is the worst unity building
like pottery

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>>173600734

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r8 my boring space farmers

>>173600992
Farming/boring.

>>173600992
Chill/10

>>173600992
Makes me want to play Harvest Moon.

>>173600792
It's still more unity and a bit of happiness.

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Fungoid and plantoid portraits look like a living hell.

>>173600093
>>173600795
You need Spiritualist ethics and the Psionic Theory technology to take the Psionic ascension perks.
You need access to The Shroud for Psionic Shields, Psi Jump Drives and Precognitive Interface technologies.

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What to change?

>>173601676
everything

Is it viable to engineer species with a bunch of negative traits (repugnant, deviant, solitary, wasteful, decadent) and fertile, robust and nomadic, then start purging them so moralfag empires around take them in and they then wreck their economy.

>>173601676
>not zeon

>>173601768
Sounds like it would cost you more to do it than it would do damage to their economy

>>173601768

Sounds too funny not to try Anon

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>that military power

Send help

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>>173601768
>weaponized refugees

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>reeee

>>173601972
Your fleet is big enough to take it out.

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>>173601676
>Repugnant
DO NOT

BULLY

>>173601972
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Stellarites Real

Xeno Just Walk Away From The System

Reptilian ships look like a cross between Hiigaran and Vagyr ships.

I fucking love it.

>>173601676
>No Basilian flag
>No newtype battlethralls
>Egalitarian xenophiles

>>173602471
Yeah they are pretty great.

>>173602471
I just wish there was an option to make them a dull grey, the models look so much better than mammalian ships.

>>173601676
Stop using weeb shit as a inspiration.

That would be it.

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>>173601556
You think? I think most of them look awesome. The tree-ent guy to the left of the one you've selected is my favorite. I also like nr 2, 3, 6, 7 (currently playing as), 9 and 15 looks a bit creep/spiderish.

How's the new Stellaris DLC? Is the game slightly less empty now?

>>173601556
>>173602675
Tree-ent guy to the RIGHT of your portrait, I meant.

What happens to Unity once you've unlocked all traditions? Does it have any use? Should I demolish and replace all of my unity buildings?

>>173602717
Nothing in the base game was fixed at all but shit was tacked on top of it so there's the illusion of depth

but it's not terrible it's just not worth 10 letalone 20 dollars

>>173601768
Too close to real life. Pls delet this.

>>173602717
You have a little bit more things to look forward to now, but basically what the previous guy said. The added content is just an expensive illusion of additional fun.

>>173602864
It becomes useless but you should have conquered the Galaxy by then.

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Any better?

What the fuck is wrong with the text editors in the faction creator screen? It keeps deleting random parts, repeating stuff and other annoying shit.

>>173603278
Are they supposed to be dwarves?

1.6 "quality of life" patch announced

>>173603278
That green is terrible

>>173603345
Their heights are weighed down by gravity after all.

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>>173602263
Ok it wasn't that bad but holy fuck cruisers are expensive in mass

How do you line break in the biography writer?

What happens to dictatorships and empires when you make your pops become imortal through robotics? Do you just keep the same ruler forever then?

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>>173603412
Tried going towards the actual EF flag but still ugly

>>173603712
Iirc you can force re-elections for influence, not sure about empires though.

>>173603713
try blue instead of teal

>>173603939
You can force new heirs for influence as well.

wait a second
>Be egalitarian xenophobes
>can purge and do whatever to aliens
>can't enslave them though, that's real bad

what the dicks

>>173604865
Slave labour undermines your own people by taking away their jobs.

>>173604980
My own people doesn't NEED jobs if the slaves do it for them

My religious xenophobes captured an empire of space elves. Is there any way I can force the space elves to move to my planets as slaves even though the habitability isn't high enough?

>>173605078
It depends on whether your slave labour can keep up the production needed to match the needs of your total population.

>>173605185
If they can't its just a matter of getting some more slaves and problem solved.

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>>173600992
Spinwards: Fanatical Purifiers who want to REMOVE XENO
Counterspinwards: Expansionist hive-mind who can't not solyent-green anyone it meets
Rimwards: Fanatic-militarist cyborg spiders who covet our resources
Corewards: Psychic Shroud cultists maniacally determined to bring about the End of the Cycle
> I just wanted to farm muh crops ;__;

>>173602864
I have over a million unity banked

>>173605418
That just increases the need for resources, your slaves have to be fed and sheltered. You also need some of your own people in the workforce to oversee the slaves, and how do you make sure their wages are kept at an acceptable level when everyone else is living off the state?

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Is stellaris just a game of colonizing planets 50 times over and repeat the same thing every time?
What am I missing?

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LUL

loool remember when this description was accurate and the crystal sonar actually useful haha xDD it's soo funny because the game is completely different now glug glug glug xD

nice wiz just nice epiikkKKKK

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>>173605546
No, that's pretty much it.
Things might get interesting if you get a good crisis or War In Heaven, but if not... well, put it this way, I've got the game running on Fast in one screen and I'm lazily typing this post in the other because it doesn't even really require my attention

>>173605579
what did he mean by this?

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>>173605579
and I fucked up my irenic shitposting

Has anyone figured out whether or not that discovery tradition for giving research when you surveyed gave you research of a flat amount as long as there was one ship surveying or if it just gave a flat amount every time a planet/star/asteroid was surveyed?

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>>173605745
> you will never play Irenic Monarchy again
Governments were chill

>>173605819
You gain 33% of your monthly output as free research points everytime a ship is done surveying something.

>>173605880
wow that's bretty gud

How come I don't see anyone posting Civ 6? Is everyone playing stellaris or is the game shit?

>>173605880
that's fucking busted

what the fuck

>>173605969
Both.

>>173605141
Resettling?
As a matter of interest we should be able to set border/migration controls per planet as well as per species.

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r8 my birdpeople who wanna find the civilization who were indirectly the cause for their ascendance. Also had no idea what civics to choose, none really made sense so I just picked whatever

>redacted will be replaced by another custom civ when I make them

>>173605826
they still exist but you can only get them with a certain combination of ethics and government

>>173606097
Unless you can actually give them the Uplifted trait - and you can't - I don't really see the point in this.
But good on you for choosing Fleeting, that's hardmode.

>>173604865
Why would you enslave filthy xenos when robutts can do their job?

>>173606232
WILL

TO

POWER

NIGGA

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>>173606232
Because robutts take a fucking long time to build, that's why
t. xenophobic materialist robutt player

>>173605681
mmm, maybe this game is not for me
I was expecting more action, more getting fucked from all sides and much more happening in each system, right now 99% of my systems are just there and nothing has ever happened on them

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r8 h8 evalu8

Plan is to rush to psychic nonsense as quickly as possible. Kind of iffy about Pacifist, but Agrarian Idyll too good to pass up.

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I'm gonna make the biggest blob with this bad boy

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>>173606363
If you WANT get raped, that can be arranged.
Just up the difficulty and increase the number of AI players, you'll be getting teabagged by alien scrotum in minutes

>>173604865
That's retarded, you should complain on their forums or somewhere paradox sees it

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>early game
>mid game
>late game

By what year would you lads say these are usually reached, in Stellaris?
At what point would the threshold be crossed and you move up into a higher level of intergalactic conquest.

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>>173606074
Resettling doesn't seem to work unless the habitability is high enough. Seems retarded to me because they're slaves and who gives a shit if they're not happy but whatever.

Luckily I found this race of underground monkeys and enslaved them instead. They even have Very Strong for the extra minerals.

>>173606703
Early game is when you're still excited when you find anomalies and try to expand your borders before the others steal potential mining/colonization spots.
Mid game is when you're settled and your only venue of expansion is conquest.
Late game is when a crisis has begun.

>>173593735
Does Utopia still have that annoying bug where if you have 5/5 planets you still get the "inefficient planet management" penalty regardless?

>>173606363
that's because they removed roaming hostiles and locked borders by default

can't have anything resembling fun in the game

>>173606498
Why pick nomadic and not something better like intelligent?

>>173606515
I tried that and it just seemed completely unfair
>5 minutes into game running scientists around with a 100 military force fleet at home
>some faggot with 1000 fleet force just stomps my shit in
>y-you too

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>>173606703
It can vary wildly, because it's not so much an absolute year as it is the galactic situation, which will evolve differently based on chance, planet density, number of players, etc.

With that being said, early game maybe ends when you reach your first energy slump, maybe 2260.
Midgame lasts until you get big enough to be in post-scarcity economics, maybe 2400.
Lategame is the rest.

>>173607042
They haven't removed roaming enemies, I've seen some warping from system to system. Can't remember which it was. And no, those weren't empires or Tiyanki, they were hostile.

>Can't offer specific pops or species as sacrifices to the Eater of Worlds
It would be pretty neat to have an entire species subjugated with their sole purpose being bred to be made mass sacrifices for our Divine God

>>173606638
>"maybe things that aren't spiritualist/egalitarian/pacifist should also be playable"
>respectfully disagree x894

>>173607065
So my worlds are evenly populated, you're probably right though

>>173606789
Okay, new problem. My elf slaves keep disappearing randomly from their planet. Like, there's no notice I can see - periodically I'll just get a notification that a building isn't being used, and when I click on their homeworld one of them has disappeared. There's no high unrest or anything. What gives?

is warlock: master of the arcane good, looks a lot like AoW, is it much different?

>>173593735
My friends and I can't play together
We came back to the game for the expansion

We started a multi at 3 yesterday
I hosted the game and did he save when we stop

To day we want to continue our game but I don't know how to get my server ID when I host a save game since there no lobby and I go directly to the previous save state of the game
Wat do?

>>173607262
should've been xenophile instead od egalitarian but yeah basically

>>173607287
it's actually not that good but I can't remember exactly why

just mediocre as fuck

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>get space piracy event early on
>they never appear
>forget about them, thinking it's a bug
>science ship finally comes across their base
>they've been building a 1.2k fleet
>my fleet power is at 300
>mfw

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>tfw you only just figure out that naval capacity isn't a hard limit and you can go far beyond it for just a small percentage increase in maintenance costs
Looks like I haven't even begun to go to war.

>>173607405

>be a wormcuck
>get this event
>they destroy my wormhole generator trapping my constructor outside
>have to make a new constructor
>and a fleet to defend it
>and another fleet to attack the pirates

I always build fleets now, fuck that annoying event. It's basically a "do you have an army yet lol" check where the army you make FOR that event becomes useless after due to nothing ever fucking happening.

>doing my own thing
>HEGEMONIC IMPERIALIST
>HEGEMONIC IMPERIALIST
>HEGEMONIC IMPERIALIST
>HEGEMONIC IMPERIALIST
>HEGEMONIC IMPERIALIST
>Be forced to not do my own thing anymore and spend early game minerals on fucking ships

every game

>>173607184
I haven't seen a single one. and the patch notes confirm that it was removed in 1.3 in favor of sitting in a massive blob in certain systems

>>173593735
What's the least annoying FTL method?

It's difficult as hell to attack empires that aren't right fucking next to my borders with warp drives.

>>173607751
Give everyone else hyperlanes while you use warp.

Too autistic to support any factions because I don't want my governing ethics to change.

>>173607585
It's meant to be a kick in the balls to remind you to keep maintaining a fleet that won't get it's shit slapped.
It's the game's subtle way of holding your hand.

>>173607859
>subtle

>>173607859

Yeah, I know. Same as barbarians in Civ 6. While in 5 they were passive, they are much more aggressive in 6 and without an army to quell them they can overrun you easily. It's not the same in Stellaris. You deal with the pirates, that's it - they're gone for good. You no longer need an army, unless you wanna conquer or are next to some Purifier douche in which case you'd have an army anyway.

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>go full commie and remove inconvenient facts
>rediscover the way of the warrior through divine mandate

fug :-DD what do

>>173607184
>>173607707
Amoebas still roam, and while not technically hostile they will fuck your shit if they warp in within range of something.

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>>173608143
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>173593735
So once you genocide more than a few alien pops the entire galaxy essentially hates you until end game? I purged about 40 xenos and the only empires that are better than -200 relations are fallen empires

>>173607751
Wormholes.
Best range, fastest travel time (instant), ignores closed borders and doesn't contribute to your ships energy costs.
The only downsides are having to build wormhole stations, the possibility of them being destroyed and wormhole generation rate taking longer the larger your fleet is.
By the time your fleet is large enough for wormhole generation rate to become an actual problem you should have access to Jump Drive technology though.

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>>173608143
>Implying a rational being can go back to hardcore religion without lying to themselves

HOLY FUCK WHY IS THE COMBAT AI SO BAD?!

>30k fleet advantage over the FE fucks.
>smash the fuck out of their 60k fleet, go for their homeworld.
>fortresses errywhere
>start attacking
>those fucks PRIORITIZE MINING STATIONS
>get plinked to death by their stupid fortresses killing the fuck out of my idiot commanders

Is there a mod that allows me to control this?

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>>173608392
What did you expect from a game made by Swedes?
>tfw just want to confine every xeno race to their home system like some kind of space indian reservation system while humanity colonizes every other system out there

>>173607279

Check to make sure they're not allowed to migrate or whatever.

Why are the ascension paths so boring? Robots is kind of lackluster, genetics is complete trash, and psionics is the only halfway decent one.

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>xenos surveying MY home system

flattered desu

>>173608392
>I purged about 40 billion xenos
>somehow I'm the bad guy

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Hey guys what's going on

>>173608481
>No event to execute admirals for massive incompetency in a grand ceremony
>Gives temporary buffs to your fleets

>>173608481
they just attack the first thing that comes into range

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>>173608603
>leaving your borders open to xenos
heresy tbqh
>>173608637
It's their own fault for colonizing worlds that don't belong to them. They should have stayed in their home system

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>>173608565
>Utopia promises atrocities
>you can't actually use atrocities unless you already dominate the game
It's like every fucking RPGs where you have awesome spells, but they only give them to you when the game is almost over and all the bosses are immune to it anyway.

>>173608392
>>173608565
Why are people so retarded ?

You kill people = other people get mad and stop trusting you.
Whats so hard to grasp about that concept ?

>>173608765
Instructions unclear. Accidentally killed my neighbour. Now my other neighbour is looking at me funny.

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>>173608765
>implying xenos are people
Tippity toppity kek, that's some serious heresy you're posting lad

>>173608882
back to ribbit

>>173608765

But another empire who practices slavery and is a xenophobe shouldn't care that I eat my slaves.

>>173608765
I guess this is just proof that the holocaust was fake because Italy and Japan were willing to remain allied with Germany.

>>173608392
>>173608565

>Not purging late game when you can get away with it.

The xenos don't know you are a ticking bomb

>roll up a xenophile/pacifist/egalitarian empire, hoping to get synths as well as psionics
>HA HA FUCK YOU FENCE SITTING FAGGOT

>Develop synths
>They turn automatically into slaves, it's impossible to adjust their rights, nevermind give them citizenship status
>They're pissed and several robot insurgency events fire off (not the wholesale AI rebellion though)
>Eventually traditions, policies and resources bring their happiness to decent levels
>Every political faction is still pissed though:
>xeno rights party, peace party and democracy party all whine about slavery
>church party just wants the abominations gone
>parliament as a whole gives me about 1 influence point from the economy and science parties
Synths were a mistake.

Although I doubt this is how it's supposed to work. If the non-materialist civics don't see robots are people, they should not be put off by AI-servitude.

In contrast a spiritualist empire still gets to develop sentient AI and their scientists get to benefit from AI perks (I guess you can get away with a bit of heresy if you're high enough in ecclesiastic hierarchy)

Literally every one of my angry factions has been lead by someone with a Russian name, what the FUCK is their problem?

>>173609175
Hitler was right.

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>>173609087
>(I guess you can get away with a bit of heresy if you're high enough in ecclesiastic hierarchy)
Well, yes.
Is also kinda strange Spiritual get pissed at robots, but they are happy to venerate the Infinity Machine as a Machine God.

>>173609175

)))))))))))

>>173609270
>Hitler was right.

The irony of this is that I'm playing as a united fascist Europe.

>>173609270
What is right about attacking and genociding millions of innocent people?

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Anyone made space succubi/incubi that use all conquered races as livestock slaves? It does give in increase to food which boosts pop growth after all.

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Games where you don't try for military conquest are so boring.

how do you guys do it?

>>173609386
>>173609542
Mmmm...

>>173609548
roleplaying and autism

>>173609548
federation and diplomacy. Liberate chunks and integrate them in to the federation too. snowball the galaxy.

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I like to RP by rolling for random civics whenever anything "significant" happens to my empire, so I can Play Pretend that my government has been toppled by the unexpected events
> Playing sneaky xenophobic shadow council
> DoW some xenos because the game is boring
> double my territory, now full of pissed off xenos committing terrorism all over the place
> what the fuck am I going to do with them
> this crisis constitutes something significant, roll
> Environmentalist, Agrarian Idyll
SOMETHING TELLS ME THE HARVEST'S GONNA BE EXTRA JUICY THIS YEAR

>>173609548

Set a goal for yourself, accomplish that, and leave.

>>173609713
I heard federations are a pain in the ass because you cant do any offensive wars.

>>173609998
You heard right

>playing authoritarian xenophobic empire
>achieve evolutionary mastery
>start modifying the fuck out of a few of my slave races
>they're ready to be shipped around the empire
>can't do it because resettlement cost
Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

Influence is so hard to generate. There's no way an empire could move its slaves around in any efficient manner.
I could do it if I got that +250 influence every 10 years that a democracy gets from mandates.

Way to ruin my hopes and dreams, paradox.
Is this their sneaky way of forcing you to accept fully open borders and unlimited migration?

>>173609998
Depends what you call an offensive war.

Although recently a fed buddy of mine started a war that requested a fallen empire to cede me a few systems.

Aside from that you can "liberate" planets, they adopt your ethics and usually ask to become your protectorate/vassal that you can integrate after a while. Which takes longer and uses up influence, although with less unrest among the pops.

>>173610251
I wish Influence could be replaced by a local ressource called "Threat" that you would stockpile by garrisonning armies on a planet.

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Do happiness bonuses no longer continue scaling up to 100%? It looks like it's back to how it was before when you just needed to pass a threshold to get the bonuses (or penalties).

Also, r8 my OC.

>>173610383

You should be able to buy influence. If I'm generating 300 power and 300 minerals each month, churning out ships by the dozens, and can go toe-to-toe with one FE, then I should be able to fucking buy influence.

>>173610383
There needs to be some way for authoritarian nations to make as much easy influence as democratic nations.

>>173610658
Or to replace Influence by something else. I mean, pointing a gun to your head and beating the crap out of you is the same as convincing you in a good argument.

>>173610725

Have it be based on your fleet strength.

Like, your fleet strength divided by the next biggest, non-FE fleet.

>contact my first xeno race
> they have similar government and ethics
>establish friendly relations
>they suddenly disappear

w-what?

>>173610897
Yeah. Or the strength of you planetary armies, because there are still fools that will say "if we live underground, we'll be safe". You need to catch them, to torture them, to squeeze them until they completely submit.

>>173607193
>can't be space aztecs

fix this paradicks

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>Next in line for God Emperor/Empress is an immortal Psionic Demi-God
>They're head of the xenophile faction
>In my empire where any and all non-psionic species live in poverty/slavery
>Immortal

Help

>>173608053
>not putting raging barbarians in every civ game

The ai only attacks you when you're weak but the barbarians are always coming at you

>>173611051

That's another thing.

Fucking Stalinist purges should be a thing.

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>>173610956
They are now *parting* with Orz

>sins of a solar empire got an HD update
Sins2 announcement when?

>>173611051
I would embrace her.

Just unlocked my first ascension perk, I'm thinking of getting either "mastery of nature" or "one vision", what do?

>you can actually mine ringworlds
for what purpose

How the fuck do you guys deal with the late game lag in stellaris. I'm getting like 15 fps except when it's paused.

>>173599207
Tons of unity, and fast tech.

>>173599304
It's a good idea to start tall, and expand only slowly, at least until you get all the traditions.

>>173611423
I'm also thinking about technological ascendancy, please help

>>173610251
Subscribe to the artist guild, you get plentt of opportunities for bonus influence

>Finish a ring section
>Science ships from every other empire flock in to make a scan
GO BUILD YOUR OWN REEEEE

>>173611542
I like to imagine that the ringworlds get all the metal from their star so you are not actually mining on the ringworld

>>173611736
>scan
>they get and, perhaps, complete anomalies
>you get benefits
???

>>173611781
well they already came up with separate tile and building sets for habitats, could've done that again for the ringworlds

Is it normal for my galaxy to be infested with pirate hideouts guarded by massive fleets?

>>173611051
> 9 factions
I thought there were only 8, one for each ethic?
Which one of these isn't ethical?

>>173612058
the economy faction kinda doesn't line up with any ethic I guess

>>173611051
>2603

Game is over anyway, start a new one

Alternatively switch government

I've finished my galactic Roman Empire game. What civ should I play as next?

>Space Mongols
>Space Chinese
>Space Indians
>Space Egyptians
>Space Sumerians
>Space Russians

>>173611397
Nah it tickles the ol' RP autism
Suddenly embracing filthy non-Psionics makes everything I've been doing for the last 303 years redundant.

I've been wanting to try out a max galaxy, minimum habitable planets game anyway.

>>173612058
Closed border forum looks to be xenophobic isolationists so a combination of two ethics.

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>that mod that had great promise, showed all kinds of potential, and then was dropped and never updated again
What's her name, /b/?

>>173611932
No. Sounds fun though.

>>173612192
Space aliens

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How the FUCK do I keep factions from ripping my empire apart? I try suppressing them but it does nothing.

>make new species
>play to 5 planets or so when diplomatic blocks start to form
>stop
>make new species
>repeat

it never stops

>>173612192
Space Germans. See how long you can survive while flooding your empire with aliens.

>>173612221
>rng ruins your game

You should post a thread on the forums complaining, just to see if the mouthbreathers there defend paradicks or not

>>173612383
Buckle up and ignore them because you're experiencing pop ethics 2.0. Now even worse than before!

>gene mod a slave species to be Nerve Stapled
>sublimely subservience was promised
>they no longer count as slaves
>lose all slavery bonuses
>some of them keep trying to migrate from their planets even though they have no rights
What the fuck is going on.

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YoRHa species mod when?

>>173612418
Why did they remove the ability to manualy purge individual desenters again?

>>173612616
They're essentially the equivalent to the game's synths.

>>173612442
>Space Germans. See how long you can survive while flooding your empire with aliens.
Fanatic xenophobes, living standard better for refuges than main pop. Boarders open, refuges welcome and made full citezrns and allowed to be leaders.

Pops want this to stop but the government keeps doing it anyway.

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I purged the democrats from my empire by putting them into forced labor, but now i'm stuck with -1 influence modifier for suppressing those filthy egalitarians. To overlook this i'm imagining the security services are expending valuable resources on a phantom menace, a la a stalinist great purge, but am i stuck with this forever or will it go away eventually?

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>>173612740
True enough

It would be nice if you could upload your entire population into cute YoRHa androids.

I'd do it every game.

>>173612740
But the synths aren't cute girls

>>173612820
Paradox loves dumb bullshit so assume it lasts forever, and if it doesn't then you can rejoice

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>>173610569

can you change governing ethics midplaythrough?

>>173612875
>>173612940
I think their portrait is more to represent Synth populations rather than what they actually look like.
Why would insect species have humanoid robots, androids and synths?

What wouls be a general cut off date in game for a successful war in heaven? If it's already 2300 am I too late?

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What is this creature supposed to represent

>>173613227
Because Paradox is lazy, of course.

>>173613338
Flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz.

> not using warp only for your game

Do you hate fun and freedom of travel?

Just found a Gaia holy world, should I inseminate it with my superior European genes?

>>173613165
Yes.
To change ethics you need to embrace a faction with the ethic you want.

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Post Civilizations and rate them

Here are my Warrior Shaman bug people

Autistic min-maxers who hate roleplaying in a roleplaying game need not apply.

>>173613510
Can you take on the Spiritualist Fallen Empire that will flip their shit once you do?

>>173613510
Depends, how much do you enjoy rape?

specifically, being the target of it

>>173613652
My fleet power is at 1.4k

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>first contact is with militant isolationists
>build colony slightly to the right of my home planet
>"DIE ALIEN SCUM"

>>173613732
> 1.4k against a Fallen empire

Practice stretching your butthole

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>>173613732
Oh, you'll do fine, lad. Go get 'em.

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>>173613732
You'll need at least 80K fleet power to take on a Fallen Empire, bud.

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>>173613732
Do it faggot, you can take em

>>173613781
> tfw i'm a militant isolasionist
> AI empire build jsut ever so lsightly to my side
> purge the entire species and all the civilizations next to it that didn't do anything, except share communications with them

GET OUT OF MY GALAXY REEEEE

>>173613806
>>173613834
>>173613838
>>173613853

i'm doing it

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>>173613781

>>173613987
F

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>>173613987
Post results.

>>173613652
Not every gaia world is holy.
The actual holy ones have a planet modifier on them.

Also spiritual faction likes colonizing them.

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>>173613613
Fanatical Shroud worshipers and Psionic supremacists who should probably pay more attention to who they're transferring the psychic energy of an entire region of the Shroud to next time.

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my borders are bugged

>>173613613
Proud, Noble, Shaman, Warriors, Tanks all don't need capitalisation.

Description sounds good otherwise, and using the plant stuff actually fits a bug species quite well.

>>173614118
Did you accidentally a 50k cloud?

were there orgies involved?

>>173614223
Ya i'm fucking retarded when it comes to grammatical shit like that, it's a force of habit

ok, how can i get a ringworld before it becomes fucking pointless?

Keeping enemies on lfie support after basicaly winning the game for 100 more years just for megastructures is retarded

>>173614091
He said he found a Gaia Holy World.
Settling on Gaia worlds pleases YOUR empire's spiritualist faction but settling on Gaia "Holy Worlds" will absolutely infuriate Spiritualist Fallen Empires.

>>173614330
I accidentally >>173611051

>>173610569
Got the original one with the dick?

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>>173614404
>ok, how can i get a ringworld before it becomes fucking pointless?
Mod the game

>>173614404
Don't play on normal with no advanced AI/fallen empires

>>173614432
Trust the space elves not to summon a divine avatar of handholding.

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>>173614569
>yfw when it starts

>>173614569
Count how long it takes between colonising it and the FE declaring war on you.