/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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>>173522656
Based

>>173522656
white men

When should I know to abandon an Asutria game in eu4

>>173520795
>>173520795
>>173520795

5th for please respond

>>173522858
1 day after you turn into your final form and you look at your next monthly income.

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The English

Best Daiymo in eu4 with all DLC?
>>173522858
how major is it if I revoke a recent reform for a quick peace, and what are the percantage chaces of the Hapsburg heir to Hungary not giving an heir

>>173522913
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Albania

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>>173522913

>>173522924
haha if you look at it in a certain way it looks like he's choking down a big black dick

kinda funny haha

Lads, it's time for a /gsg/-poll.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12701051/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12701051/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12701051/

So, Talex abandoned us in favour of r*ddit?

Consensus on Mandate?

>>173522656
White.

>>173523138
>eu4
the only mandate you should listen to is the one to kill yourself.

>>173523247
Fucking ebin

>>173523138
Honestly pretty good if you're playing in East Asia, otherwise not really worth it

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>>173523138
Nice QoL improvements, ages seem ridiculously good, haven't played in asia yet so can't say anything about the tribute system.

>>173523138
I like it.I haven't played in asia though. I hear that Ming empire needs more work to make sense.

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When will you guys admit that HOI3 Blackice is the superior game.

>>173522656
White Men

>>173523360
[Vomits Internally]

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my friend gifted me stellaris

as someone who frequents /xivg/, I finally get it /gsg/

I love this shit now, or at least I think I do

Any tips for playing as Ueseguii in Japan

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>>173522980
Shimazu, purple guys on bottom left of Japan. They're an OPM, but good ideas and have weak neighbors. I kind of regret switching to Jap ideas when unifying Japan

>>173523619
uninstall.exe

>>173523567
stellaris is NOT a gsg

>>173523567
You can talk about Stellaris here if you like but you'll get a better conversation about it on /4xg/

Is there a mod that makes Fallen Empires look like Vorlons instead of space gerbils yet?

>>173523703
It is. The only reason it's not allowed here is because we would be going through 3 threads a day instead of the .75 we currently manage.

>>173523654
So you're saying I should play as them instead?

>>173523703
alright then. I guess

>>173523567
most people here don't like stellaris because its a lot simpler than the actual gsg games paradox shits out

that said i think stellaris will be really good once it gets a retarded amount of dlc like the other games

>>173523654
>green in TW
>purple in EU4
What did Johann mean by this

>>173522994
>>173523007
No goddamn it look you can see its not the same thing at all these are just the heads of two different birds and they're facing the same direction

I've seen this or something that looks like it on a german regional or city flag or something from one of these games but I can't find anything on the internet

>>173523567
Remember and say thank you. I hope you get good use out of that gift anon.

>>173523823
no, it is not
the only reason people think it's a gsg is because it's made by paradox, if it was made by some other shitty 4x company like civ meyer or whatever there wouldn't be any confusion

>>173524034
Now I see why no one responds to you. Go on google nigger.

>>173523654
How should I start the game off, who to rival

>>173524063
If Stellaris isn't gs then EU4 isn't either.

>>173524063
>Stellaris is a sci-fi grand strategy game set 200 years into the future. It is developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive.

top wew kys my best friend

>>173524163
No but meiou and taxes 2 is

>>173524101
I've been doing a lot of googling please tell me

>>173524138
Ally the green Hoko guys, rival your immediate neighbors. Develop your province until you can field enough troops to actually siege a capital, then wait for them to get in a war and pounce.

>>173524260
>wikipedia
not an argument

>>173524371
>Wikipedia
>Steam
>Paradox Website
>Stellaris Wiki

or

>some autist sperging out on /gsg/

Try to be objective, who would you believe?

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maybe this will stop them from taking defender of faith all the time

>>173524309
>SJW and bloat and lag mod
That isn't a GSG

>>173524551
No proofs

>>173524471
>>Wikipedia
>>Steam
>>Paradox Website
>>Stellaris Wiki
>literally all of those were written by johan or whoever literally-who made stellaris

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>>173524490
is this europe redpilled

>>173524769
Yes. The one state that will lead to the Europe we have now is Brandenburg. The weaker Brandeburg is in your game, the greater the present day of that alternate universe will be for all Europeans. This also applies to France.

In your map Brandenburg is small and ineffectual and fuck knows what is going on with France. They will never weaken the power of the Empire or indirectly or directly aid the Ottomans or whatever other treacherous shenanigans they might dream up.

Your Europe will have a glorious future.

>>173524769
No based Ottomans
Not redpilled

>>173524673
>Creator of the game

or

>some autist sperging out on /gsg/

try to be objective who ould you believe?

>>173525234
It's actually 4x

>>173525067
Correct.
>>173525187
Incorrect.

>>173525320
Not an argument.

>>173525234
>some jew who is lying just to make money
or
>the will of an entire general
try to be objective who ould you believe?

What graphical mods do you use for EU4? I want better looking maps, but I don't want it to fuck up performance

>>173525353
Your face isn't an argument

>>173525374
>some jew who is lying to make money

or

>the worst place to talk about grand strategy games on the entire internet (including /mlp/ and various other hobby and origami boards) A place of pure cancer where 75% of every thread is just memeing

I'm with the jews on this one

>10 favours meme
Boy I sure do like not being able to declare war for 10 years whilst everyone around me fucks shit up and becomes more powerful than me, especially as i can't join my allies war if theyre the offender

>>173525603
>ad-hominem

>>173525603
>>the worst place to talk about grand strategy games on the entire internet (including /mlp/ and various other hobby and origami boards) A place of pure cancer where 75% of every thread is just memeing
if you don't like it, leave
your friends in reddit must be worried by now

>>173525067
Would a catholic Brandenburg change anything?

>>173524769
>No France

But France was the most redpilled country in the worldz, until they got cucked by the Germans in the 19th cenetury

>>173522656
W&B

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What should I do? I just won against the Sultan of Ifriqiya in a Holy War for Alger (He was the agressor)
Tanger is my tributary.
I'm west african pagan, not muslim.

based fucking colonial AI improvements

I can finally just declare on anything in the americucks and watch my colonies swarm them. Also instant tag switch to colonial nation when taking provinces in their region.

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>>173524769
How different is eu3 compared to 4?
Does it have more fun

Is mandate stable enough?

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>>173525067
muscovy stretching from russia to india is a bit worrisome but yeah i guess you're right

>>173526653
I haven't had it crash, if that's what you mean. Not even a hotfix yet.

Why is Haiti more civilized than China or Japan in 1836?

>>173527014
Because of European influence.

Does anyone here do conversions? I'm thinking of doing an EU4 game into Victoria II, but I'm a pretty garbage modder.

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And thus the inbred forces of absolutism triumph over the wogs of nationalism in the aftermath of the colour revolutions.

>>173522656
white and based

>>173527269
>Conquering 2 civilized states
><10 infamy
Wew.

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come home roman man

>>173527005
No I mean if there are any glaring bugs that will get hotfixed right away

How big should I get my army before I start declaring wars as Shimazu, currently just been dumping all mana into development

>>173527395
You caught me matey, had to cheat to get that glorious haiti because a french nigger picked on me in school

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>>173527423

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IOs this because I'm not warring and he wants his vassals to be weak?

>>173526648
It feels more sandboxy than eu4, isn't very railroaded outside of some occasional missions and you actually can roleplay country based on your sliders. There is also tech spending instead of mana and more dynamic trade thanks to ability to create your own trade centers
But it has retarded ai, common bordergore, less complex diplomacy, less historical flavour and terrible alliance system which can lead to frustrating/hilarious situations where you have to fight half of europe over declaration of war on some OPM
I think eu 4 is overall better game despite its own flaws but i like to play eu 3 occasionally.

>>173527706
>>173527423
Good job conquering shitholes.
Have fun with Hungary/Ottomans analy raping you.

>>173526648

>serbia is now albania

top fucking lel

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>>173527951
I'm buddies with the hungaroos though
And I'm moving west, so granted I survive the first few decades, I won't have to deal with them

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>>173527929
Oh, and it has a lot better/more fun government system and most importantly my favourite soundtrack from paracuck games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cCB7nrhaKE

>>173527641
>>173527395
>>173527269

To be fair infamy is literally the only cheat i use in V2 as well. I cannot stand waiting for it to drop especially since the games timeline is insanely short. I only use it to get below 20 so if its 19, whatever.

I also use provid to get nice borders since you can only take states and give ugly border provinces back to the enemy.

how is the current opinion about Hearts of Iron 4? is it worth to get now? last time i asked i was told that if you own Hearts of Iron 3 there is no reason to get 4

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Ottoman guarantee my ass lmao

>>173528371

I've asked this many times and i've heard its absolute dogshit, even more casual than EU4.

>literally doesn't even have oil as a resource
>apparently theres no real airforce units either
>you basically just point arrows in a direction to attack, apparently theres not much micromanaging
>ai is godawful

Why are vassals/PUs so fucking dumb?

I got a PU over France, got their liberty desire low, set them to siege focus, and they sit a 70k stack in Laungedoc with their thumb up their ass while I'm fighting the Ottomans. The same shit happened in another game.

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If I improve relations with overlord does this stop?

>>173526661
Use your merchants and your missionaries!
At least you are using your magistrates though.

Anyway to make my allies hate my enemies so they join wars?

>>173528569
Everything you said is wrong though.

>>173529694
No faggot, either you let allies cuck you until you get 10 favors, or you let them cuck you by giving them land,

Unless it's defensive war.

>>173530626
I have 10 favours and they still won't war

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>It's an actual race war against the mutants

>>173530343

actually, in a broad sense, hes right

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What the fuck just happened

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why is this meme a thing reeeee

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>22 base learning
>Great Theologian education trait
But anon, I thought Muhammed was illiterate?

>>173533134
Want the meme or serious answer

>>173532634
Someone must've finally said "I hate Krauts who disagree with me, but I hate other countries even more"

>>173533245
What is the serious answer?

>>173533026
>justifying blobbing,
also did you not already have a claim on the land?

>>173533026
To prevent stupid bullshit like Wallachia blobbing into Morocco or something

Just vassalize them then seize the province later when you have the coring range.

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After tensions over the west Philippines sea fishing rights and probably some christian missonaries being persecuted or whatever, Espana responds and catches the oriental fleet not hiding in beijing bay for once

>>173528169
Not me

>>173533364
He was illiterate in his first 40 years, but while meditating in a cave allah sent him Gabriel
After introducing himself, Gabriel showed him his destiny and duty as a prophet, proceeded to make recite a few verses and magically gave him the ability to read and write

>>173533516
>having a claim on some berber sheep herders as Wallachia

>>173533531
Do vassal provinces extend your colonial range?

>>173533746
no
used to be that having ship repair access or whatever it was called gave you colonial range, but that got nerfed

>>173533661
wtf i love islam now

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Fucking finally.
It was a pain in the ass to keep it under controll

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Best thing to spend my age mana on?

>>173533661
This is what I don't get about Abraham religion. Forget all the other complaints. What the fuck was so special about Abraham or Muhammad that they get personal confirmation that they've got the right religion when everyone else has to just fucking guess and hope

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>>173523360
Pretty nice borders bro, but what do you think about this?

>Stellaris is still keeping civ4x alive

>>173534639
>hungarians returning to their homeland
it's almost romantic

>>173534506
How did you get feudalism so quickly. I didn't get that until the late 1500's

>>173534840
>Magyars came from Han province
?
>>173534897
You start with feudalism?

>>173534897
Meant for
>>173534639

>>173534991
I meant renaissance ofc

>>173534413
But anon?? don't you know the enclave would had gassed any one not born in a vault or near a radioactive barrel for more than 1 minute

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>>173535084
Slaves work.
Citizens fight.
It's an apartheid state.

>>173535045
It's a light green bar so you should know that means not 100% present

Why China?

>>173535437
>pics from school

Don't know if retarded or an advanced bait.

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>>173535634
sorry better pic

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Fuck the partisans.
I hate them.

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nuthin personnel.. han

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first time i got it the ottomans are back into persia

stupid frenchists

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Truly civil war is crazy
>ally sends soldiers in one at a time to fight enemy
>this guy who is sieging the province I want to take still hasn't gone to get more men
>Ouichi has no allies so that army will never be killed
>Island I'm blockading has taken a year to die to siege

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>>173536193
FUCK

>>173522913
Prussia? HRE? Serbia?

>>173523016
are you the anon into BBC cuck stuff

why are you here

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>>173523654
I chose to stick to the Shimazu Ideas because I'd eventually have to fight Ming and the 10% morale and fire damage, as well as the 1% army tradition is too good for war. They cancelled our tributary agreement, I've conquered most of Manchuria and most of Korea, It's 1549 now and I'm about to declare a humiliation war on Ming to get some PP and cash, as well as to keep them out of a coalition. I have a force limit of 84, they have 146, but 80 of them are mercenaries and have no manpower, so they'll end up drowning in loans. I'm hoping that the mercenary discipline buff doesn't make a difference.

>>173534617
>What the fuck was so special about Abraham or Muhammad
What is "special" about them is that they were prophets. That's kind of fundamental.

But I don't see what bugs you about that. Why would you expect religions not to have any special or higher-status figures? That's not the way the world works now or when those religions were getting started. Obviously there would be a hierarchy. If Muhammad just preached "everyone is equal including me, I'm not special and God doesn't talk to me at all" why would anyone listen to him, let alone follow him into battle?

anyone want to play eu4

for some reason after installing the last dlc from OP's link my checksum is wrong, should i reinstall everything?

>>173522656
Thank you

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Some border issues had to be amended.
Which resulted in me bullying my tributaries a bit.

>>173534617
Not even Abrahamic religion, Greek philosophers played the "I was going home drunk from a brothel and passed out by the roadside but then Athena picked me up and brought me to Olympus and explained exactly how the world works" card to try to get their ideas accepted. Assuming God is the truth, having the truth talk to you personally would give you a good deal of credibility compared to the rest of us.

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>>173537032

>>173538303
Did you start as Manchu and conquer Ming or did you start as Qing already

>>173538328
But why would you believe them.

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>>173522980
>Best Daiymo in eu4 with all DLC?
Uesegi probably.

>>173538438
I started as Jianzhou and united the Jurchens, then conquered Ming.

>>173538468
>combat worth
i dont get it

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>>173538750
5% disc = 5 combat worth
Then I calculated how much damage a specific army did, and how much more damage it did by adding 5% disc, and how much less damage an army would take if it had 5% more disc.

Then I did the same for other stats like 10% infantry combat ability, 10% fire damage, land leader shock.

10% inf combat ability got a value of 2,47204439.

So 20% infantry combat ability would almost deal as much damage as 5% disc would deal and protect.

Morale doesn't deal damage, so it is just listed as Disc/2, so 10% morale = 5% combat worth.

>>173538447
Why to believe is a different question though. I would imagine you've got to want to believe it first. There's not a chance anyone can prove God through empiricism and reason, so I'd think you have to find the conclusion satisfying enough (promise of heaven, fear of hell, whatever) in order to bridge the gap between their promises and your reason with 'faith' (suspension of disbelief).

>>173539201
uh ok okay
i dont get it

>>173539201
quality is worse than i thought then, if combat ability is just unit specific discipline

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>>173539807
>if combat ability is just unit specific discipline
Naeh not exactly.
Discipline also makes you take less casualties.

>>173539201

hello Arumba

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Barbarians getting uppity again so I had to give em a good whipping.

>>173523360
The nu/gsg/ generation will never understand

>>173540705
>10 dead on each side in battle every battle
heh...nice mod.... kid

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kek

>>173539368
I fucking hate that m8, the store is always like 99% old people and one qt who sees you buying frozen food and judges you.

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Get fucked, cunts

>>173536481
How do you become revolutionary france?

>>173541038
>implying HPM isn't shit

How the fuck do you give an estate a province in 1.20? Where the fuck did they put the ui for this?

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>>173541048

made .5 secs of eye contact with the cashier

>>173541038
How rude

>>173541384
I'm not sure.
Sometimes the build icon is next to the province interface for me, but I think sometimes it isn't.
I think going back and forth between the state tab at the top of the province interface brought it back once.

can my 48yo wife still get pregnant? (CK2)

>>173541454
Back from the dead!

>>173541432
You don't have self checkout? I'd literally just starve.

>>173541454
Burned tripcode

>>173541454
talk about the infamy overhaul senpai

>>173541567
40y is the cap

>>173541454
this is bait

>>173541685
>>173541729

Not for long. I was just going to announce that I left further mod development in the hands of Gruica (unHPM).

Guys I really just want Alex back, is that so much to ask?

>>173541538
Thanks, that got it. If you turn off the institutions and then switch to state and back to province the build icon will show up.

How can you spread technology in CK2 when you are tribal?
My capital has technology for ships and full upgrade for castle but it just don't spread.

>>173541821
He fell in the battlefield at Idlib fighting for the militias against Assad.

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Wait, what?
Pretty sure i killed the royal family..

>>173541814
Wow! That's some news, I'll be sure to let your fans on reddit know.

>>173541814
>leaving your mod to unHPM

oh boy

>>173542054
>>173542183
It's not HPM

>>173541814
fucking epic

>>173542271
You don't say.

don't have much time to work on the mod, but I can answer questions.
AMA

>>173541814 was a joke obv

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St. Petersburg or Bust

>>173542489
that's a big tunnel
why do you need their capital

>>173527245
post screenshots and I might do it.

>>173542403
Are you Alex Sandro Grandi da Silveira, south brazilian chemistry teacher and mujahideen?

>>173542662
No reason, just to say I did it.

>>173542682
Yes.
I've been silent about all the things you guys found out about me but I think it's time to say that it was true, all of it

>>173541814
this is true btw

>>173538679
How did you beat Ming?

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Damn, I didn't reach St. Petersburg.
At least we got a peace that rolled back some of Russia's conquests.

>>173541821
Alex should be kicked out and replaced desu, he's nothing but a shitposting magnet

>>173543148
This, did you become their tributary?

If I fully upgrade the main tribes of all of my tribal vassals and I'm reformed pagan or not pagan, they will become feudal it's right?

>>173539201
What about land fire modifiers like Shimazus or the Dutchs'? Are they the worst combat modifier?

>>173541760

fuck man

How do I make a son as a cristian if I can't get a concubine? I only have two birds

>>173544045

*christian

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France is a dumb fuck.
>>173543148
>>173543506
>Tributary
> Eat their other tributaries
> Form Manchu
> refuse to give them tribute until they revoke tributary once you've blobbed hard enough
> force them to get the Unguarded Nomadic Frontier disaster
>hope you fucked over their tributaries enough to make them low mandate because now it's time for you to fuck em up
>don't take the Mandate until they're almost dead
>unify China
>Once Ming is kill establish as many tributaries are possible

>>173542489
Why is there a french flag down there along with HRE and MoH? Tell me about it.

>>173544045
Seduce focus, keep presenting debutantes from the decision menu and seducing them till they shit out a man, you'll have to legitimize the little shit though

>>173544257
Birthplace of the Revolution

>>173544257
Target of the Revolution.

>>173544431
>>173544458
And what does this do?

>>173544729
it's been in the game forever, you seriously haven't seen it before?

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>>173544329

already died senpai, gonna have to play as my daughter

Uesugi has the prettiest UU

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>>173543868
It's fine late game, but it is important to remember that this is based on an end game western army with no idea groups.

So 40 infantry, 10 cavalry, 40 artillery at mil tech 32.

The earlier you go in tech, the land leader fire and fire damage will get less worth compared to land leader shock.
I plan to do more calculations based on different takes and army comps, but it takes some time to do all the inputs.

Started doing one for chinese troops at mil tech 15 before a coop game I started today.
I think it might be more relevant to see how good fire damage is at that point.

>>173544943
>seduce all vassals
>shit sons endlessly while keeping vassals happy
welcome to ez mode famalamabam

>>173545157

I'm RPing -- my little baby is NOT a whore, ok?

>>173545267
SLUT

>>173544881
No I haven't.

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fug
Go Dutch Republic or Admin Republic for that nice income boost
Remember M&T's Dutch Republic had a parliament system

>>173544218
>that austria
Fucking disgusting.

>>173545560

she's pure

>>173545850
purely for sex

>>173545850
>woman
>pure
pick exactly one kiddo

>>173538401
Gl with Ming merc spam. Did you wait for the disaster before this war?

>>173538401
>infantry

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>>173545892
>>173545953

*challenges both for a duel*

How do you do naval combat in CK2? I keep putting my ships in front of the enemy port but somehow they always seem to slip through them and manage to move small stacks of troops to my homelands.

>>173546640
There is no naval combat in ck2

whats the current /gsg/ meme game?

>>173546879

europa universalis 4

>>173546704
>bows and arrows do not exist
>fire does not exist
Wow, what a realistic game

>>173546879
Making six new threads when the existing thread is between 600 and 700 posts.

Do we still do dlc unlockers for eu4? I'm not seeing it in the archive anymore.

>>173546879
Senran Kagura, fuckers just won't quit

>>173546704
DLC soon

Do you guys think infamy is a necessary mechanic

Am I a casual if I add an -25 monthly infamy modifier

>>173546704
>event chain to recover Greek fire
>it provides no benefit

The lack of naval combat has always irked me

>>173547413
>>173547780
>>173548119
all very cancerous replies

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>>173548914
>cheating

I'm past child bearing age and my heirs aren't on my dinasty ... did I lose already?

>>173549243
Yes.

>>173549352
fuck this game senpai, I'm only 37

my mom in real life had me at 38

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>600+ years from now on people are gonna be playing grand strategy games about the timeperiod we are living in today

>>173549480
but you can still have children until 45

>>173549480
get good my mom had me at 16

>>173549535
2020: rise of bogdanoffs
polish king leading visegrad union died at crusade of berlin

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I'm that anon that can't install the CPRplus face pack to save his life.

Fellow pirates have said that they actually got it working, but all I'm getting is an error saying that it can't find my CK2 folder. How do I fix this?

>>173549590

maybe the guy I'm trying to marry is just an edgy MGTOW then? It says he won't marry because I'm past child bearing age...

>>173549535
>>173549673
>The year is 2400
>/gsg/ is still active
>mp shitpost group is still active
>the new meme is le empire of syria
>you will be able to play ISIS with accurate timeperiod music

>>173549834
Marry someone else then.

>>173549834
show pics, are you a qt?

>>173549630

this

If my mom did the same I would probably be a Chad because of those fresh eggs

>>173550015
post your grosen isis

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>>173550070

I would give me a 7/10 at least

>>173550015
>you will be able to play ISIS with accurate timeperiod music

>load up liqqy5
>HEY I WAS DOING JUST FINE BEFORE I MET YOU

>>173550380
>this is considered 7/10 in iberia
wew lad

>>173550517

37, two sons from different marriagres

please be kind

>>173550484
>liqqy
>>>/r/paradoxplaza

>>173523138
1) Ming is broke af.
2) Not much improvement in splendors, otherwise you're Portugal making colonies grow fast otherwise its mediocre. Napoleon Siege or something is a must though
3. Take Golden age on your first major war. +10 is great. better to take the GA while your still struggling rather than take it later when you're blobbing
4. Edicts are generally useless. I sometimes use faster institution spread on my capital though
5. Added gameplay on Asia, although I really don't feel the whole daimyo thing in Japan and fighting Ming is a huge pain in the ass

meh, i'd say pirate it or wait for the next steam sale and buy it if you want

Is there a decision or event for confucians that gives them a -10% stab cost modifier?

Looked at earlier versions of hte wiki on the religious page and didn't find anything of the sort under confucianism.

Curious about trying the olig-merch exploit with korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7poLeIGC9QA&ab_channel=Reman%27sParadox

gonna marry a lowborn bloke, then

faggot better pound this until a little boy comes out

>>173550912
>1) Ming is broke af
In what way? They're strong as fuck, but they were in real life.

>>173528706

Now they're getting their own land overrun and won't move their fucking army.

What the fuck is this nonsense?

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>>173549480
>my mom in real life had me at 38
kek. explains why you're a loser irl lmao

GIVE ME A DLC UNLOCKER, I HATE PARADOX REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173551471
t. unplanned "miracle"

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>>173551471

at least I don't have autism LMAO

>>173551638
>saves anime frogs
>doesnt have autism

>>173551638
autism is much more prevalent in children borne past age 30 though

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independence'd

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>>173551743

but I don't have it LMAO

anyone excited for WWIII to come and bring new source material for grand strategy games?

>>173551728

praise keK!!!!!!!

>>173551957
how can you blob when there are nukes in the game
shitty mechanics

>>173551957
It's been in developement for far too long now, I was starting to think they were going to cancel it before the recent Syria DD.

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>>173528706
>>173551321

Has nobody had this problem? My loyal personal union is so adamantly devoted to being absolutely fucking useless that they're letting their own land get sieged down while they don't move their 80k stack army from a fucking attrition province.

I even tried tagswitching to them and moving the army myself, they move it right back. I've tried reloading, these fuckwits won't do a fucking thing and it's really triggering my autism.

production interface for granting land to estates doesn't seem to work

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>>173550948
ah, they did something against it.

no comfy tall korea then

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>>173552039
Go back to your containment subreddit.

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>>173553263
>no comfy tall korea then

>>173545657
MEIOU AND TALEX 2.0 WHENNNNNNN

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only took 53 loans
how shitty is declaring bankruptcy?

Best tutorial for EU4?

I heard Arumba has the best tutorial, hands down.

Where can I get mandate of heaven dlc? Rin's doesn't work

>>173554690
Bankruptcy got buffed in the new patch, it's fucking devastating. Do it if you feel brave.

Hey guys I'm a pc noob, would it be easy for me to use pirated dlc with a steam copy of stellaris? I'm trying to figure out before the steam sale ends. If it's easy could someone tell me how? I know you guys are pretty good with this kind of shit

>>173554694

playing the game

How do I get into CK2? This shit seems outdated compared to EU4. And with so much micromanagement that seems like too much work for too little gain.

>>173554437
>4 mana
*heavy breathing*

>>173554437
>sharing commerce with the filthy nippons

>>173554437
Jesus fucking christ

>>173554791
/4xg/ is the defacto place to discuss Stellaris.

>>173554694
just play the game.

If you later on want to learn about more specific things, look it up on the wiki, ask here, or look on a specific video from someone like Reman(like his Fort video) or Florry(or his aggressive expansion video)

>>173554690
Make sure you've got truces or alliances with all your neighbors before declaring bankruptcy.

>>173554804

>wants to blob in CK2

>>173554694
Play the game, the learning curve isn't that hard
Play as Ottomans or Portugal, they're good starter countries.
If you're fucked look up the wiki or ask specific questions here.

>>173554690
>Entering bankruptcy also removes 25% of your current inflation, reduces stability by 3, reduces legitimacy or republican tradition to 0, and reduces all monarch power to 0. All of your mercenaries, advisors and loans are also dismissed and all buildings and units under construction are cancelled.
>Bankruptcy adds devastation to provinces, and clears recent uprising flag. Going bankrupt destroys all buildings built in the last 5 years.

>>173555214
>Going bankrupt destroys all buildings built in the last 5 years.
fuggin yids

>>173554690
if you're France or the Ottomans declaring bankruptcy is no big deal. They get so many bonuses to morale that the -50% morale of armies doesn't even affect them, lmao

every other negative effect can be planned for

i lose my Present On Two Continents splendor if my colony becomes a colonial nation? that's pretty fucking stingy

Is Austria the only one that you can annex by being fascist?
Can you stage coups in your sphere of influence?
Do you need to use the establish fascist goverment CB first, then the Dismantle Nation CB so the released nations are a fascist goverment?
Game is Victoria 2 HPM by the way

>>173554694
watch the Arumba x Filthyrobot collab. that's how I got into the game, play along then play solo, read up the wiki and ask questions here and at r/eu4

>>173555684
Yeah that is bullshit. But just take some clay in Africa. Or colonize a province like Bermuda or the Falklands that doesn't go to a Colonial Nation

>>173554950
Oh my bad I didn't realize it was separated from gsg

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So the crusade for Germany was successful, and the saxon Empire of Germania has almost completely collapsed after Saxony rebelled. I am thinking about giving Germany to someone of my dynasty and then giving it independence for better borders, but I am not sure. Exactly where should I stop my current borders, and where should I start setting up christian states in the lands I conquer from the muslims and pagans?

>>173555868
No problem

>>173554690
The AI doesn't even know you're bankrupt so if you put up a facade of strength nothing bad will happen, it's a borderline exploit. I just had the Commonwealth white peace the Ottomans just as the turks went bankrupt, even though if they kept fighting they would've completely wrecked them.

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bang bang

>>173555878
Was this the retarded game where Francia went Jewish? Start to gut Iberia and post a religion map

>>173556523
No that was my previous one. I got wrecked by the Jewish Emperor of Francia as he steamrolled over Europe. In this one, one Karling somehow became pagan, and lost it all to the muslims, but not before they reformed norse paganism.

>>173554694
Just watch florryworrys stream.

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>>173556497
only took 5 years
wasn't so bad

What is the best Adult mod for CK 2?

>>173557532
www.loverslab.com/topic/57549-ck2-dark-world-reborn/

>>173555878
For some having the north of France rather than the south or both makes me more sense to me than having only the south.
Franks are a germanic culture while southern France really isn't but historically Charlemane had both.
Italy is fine but you shouldn't have a province in Africa unless you want to restore the Roman Empire.
You should get Saxony and maybe get a nicer looking eastern border.

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wew

>>173555710
Does somebody know?

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ahahahahaha this gon b gud

also how the fuck has this not spawned before now? it's fucking 1523

>>173558339
>europe will be backwards as fuck because some indinesian niggers expanded to another island
Believable worlds.

>>173558339
If I had to guess, Spain and Poortugal and England probably had a massive shitstorm

>>173558593

can't wait to see the results of the re-reconquista once maps of europe spread here

>>173558339
It's a MTTH so it's just random when it spawns, after 1500. Theoretically it could just never spawn, though the odds are so astronomical the heat death of the universe would probably happen before you found a game where that happened.

I like it because it creates some variation between games.

>>173558678
>It's a MTTH so it's just random when it spawns, after 1500
The MTTH is like half a year after you qualify.

>>173558749
Yes, but that doesn't mean it will happen in half a year. It's still random so it CAN take any amount of time, even though it's not likely to take very long at all.

>>173558821
It's far more likely that Europe has been swallowed into such a massive shitstorm that they didn't qualify.

>>173554694
>Arumba's tutotial
>like 120 videos

Honestly that seem even more intimidating to new players than the actual game

>>173559075
Like 80% of his videos is about gamey shit
Arumba tries way too fucking hard to mkae himself seem like a pro

>watching a casual faggot play a casual faggot game is intimidating
Holy shit, the absolute state of /gsg/.

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How is your dynasty doing /gsg/? You do land your dynasty members right?

>tfw when your inbreed kinsman is born more prestigious than kings and dukes

>>173559352
Is there any flavor to the Lovecraft religion? Wanted to play in NE but it just seemed boring.

>>173559147
120 episodes = 120 hours of watching a casual faggot play a casual game is pretty fucking intimidating considering his autism is palpable in every minute of the video, just play the fucking game.

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>>173559352
>Occultist Québec

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>>173558339
>tfw It spawned in Europe on january 1st 1500 on my current Shimazu game just as I was about to finish my Aleut colony.

>>173559635
Ming is in a very good position to get Colonialism isn't it?

Victoria 2 has HPM
EUIV has MEIOU
CK2 has HIP and CK+

What does Stellaris have?

>start game as ming
>will go for gross border, tibet, red river, that lake by kokkand, black river
>about to vassalize haixi in a peace deal
>realize the world will look empty if I eat my northern neighbours
>sense of comfy gone
>quit game

>>173558548
it was hilarious seeing arumba's playthrough on the ryukyu and seeing how Europe got fucked up by Portugal missing on Colonialism and the rest of europe beeing poor without colonialism

>>173560016
i don't know, ask the 4x general

>>173560115
Stellaris is a grand strategy though

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r8 europ

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>>173560196
'no'

>>173560196
no, it's not

>>173560196
>Stellaris is a grand strategy though
It doesn't matter.
Stellaris is a 4x which is more specific, and it has its own general.

>>173559075
just watch the arumba x filthy collab. more than half of the vids is going to war and you only need to watch the first 30 or vids i think.

>>173560283
>based slovak state
the rest doesn't matter, it's perfect