EVE Online general /eog/

Moros

I'm so excited for the Ruptures new look more importantly my Muninn with Tronhadar Ink.

>Muninn

reported

There's a Rupture remodel?

>>173557420
from leddit http://imgur.com/a/IubEk

I was thinking about playing. is it something you can play passively on the side while doing something else most of the time? Also is the game in a state of decline?

>>173555660
Fucking hell Kevin

>>173560447
what?

>>173560513
Took ya time mate

>>173559859
Both of these questions are complicated to answer as it depends what you want to do in the game. I will say as a whole design wise, I don't think the game is on a decline. The game has been shittier in the past certainly.

>Is it something you can play passively on the side while doing something else most of the time?

You get out of EVE what you put into EVE. You can just log in every now and then and go on fleets, you can log in every now and then and do missions, or log in every now and then and explore. However "playing" EVE is kind of a misconception. In WoW or some other MMO once you clear the expansions content you've "played" the expansion. You do dailies and grind gear in order to make your character more powerful etc. In EVE you are either logged in doing stuff or you aren't and that's really up to you. Can you have fun in EVE without making a lot of commitments? Certainly! Can you compete in EVE without making a lot of commitments? No.

You can't compete in mining. You can't compete in the market. You certainly can't compete in claiming territory. You probably can't hold a wormhole. You can't accomplish things in EVE unless you're outpacing or outsmarting other players. (except missions, they basically have zero community interaction and are broken content)

>Also is the game in a state of decline?

The game goes through high points and low points. Its like the real world, stuff can escalate very quickly, or it can lull in a state of relative piece for long timelengths. On an individual content scale, there is always content if you go out and start shit.

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had to disable a plugin to amarrpost

How do I join Oruze?

>>173560815
Do dolphins breath air? OR DO THEY BREATH WATER?

So The Marmite Collective declared war on my high sec industrial corp. Think there's a chance they'll try to kill our pos?

>>173561016
Nah, they normally only shoot stuff taking gates.

>>173561016
Marmite only shoot things that don't shoot back.

>>173560730

What is considered committed?
Like do I need to put in 12 hours a day to be semi-competitive? or is it something you can give an initial burst at and play a few hours a day and be competitive?

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>How do I join Oruze?

>>173561016
https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1680888152/reset/group/365/losses/

>>173560930
It's air bud, they're mammals.

For real though, I can't remember if they had a pub for recruiting or not.

Is joining Brave Collective a good idea?

>>173561223
You set defense timers on systems and citadels on when they will be vulnerable. They need to be vulnerable for a certain amount of time depending on the size of the structure, I'm not sure if systems have different defense timers. Theres a weekly amount of time, I think you can have all your time in one day, or you can spread it out around your schedule.

Essentially the timers dictate timeslots when people log in to fuck with your shit so they know when they need to be ready to assemble their fleets and when you need to assemble your fleets. Typically the primary "commitment in EVE is a mental/social commitment. In order to compete in EVE you need to play with other people.

You can play EVE with it being a normal life priority that you would expect out of a hobby. HOWEVER, EVE can be unfun at times, its work sometimes, you'll deal with shit you don't want to deal with and in order to compete you need to still be able to log in and do shit when you don't want to.

If you're flaky you might as well just fuck off.

>>173561751
your group having a structure timer doesn't mean everyone has to log in

>>173561465
They get farmed 24/7 and recently got their asses handed by PL.

Now they hold shitty space that TEST didn't want.

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Is there any point in switching to a frigate/destroyer when doing my level I epic arcs, or should I just stick with a Battleship for all level 1-4 missions?

>>173565439
you should be using a machariel with hyperspatial rigs and accelerators

>>173565439
it's probably faster in a destroyer

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Is this game ded?

>>173566518
eh
not really, it's doing alright
could definitely be better though

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>>173566595
Is it worth getting into at this time?

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>>173566673
Not him, but I just started playing a week ago and I'm having fun

>>173566673
yeah, it's always worth
EVE is one of those games where things take time, a lot of newbros look at someone with a carrier, billions of isk, and tons of fancy mods and then get's all discouraged

but he doesn't see the years of SP training, ratting, grinding, mistakes, and learning that the veteran player has gone through

go get a referral from someone (either here or leddit) and you'll get 250,000 SP to help start your journey (it's actually a fairly big chunk) and go through the tutorial

Summer update when?

>>173567428
summer?

How do I get PvP in null?

I'm interested in small gang shit, but the only things happening near my corp seem to be massive fleets, which are mind-numbingly boring. I just want to roam with a small gang and blap shit but no one seems interested.

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Join Dronelands today! Cheap rent systems, quiet ratting space. Comrade xXDEATHXx wants your money!

>>173568479
Depends on your alliance, probably. Some have specific ingame channels for that, others have sigs and private chat rooms and others just have corps dedicated to that within the alliance.

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>Memelands

>>173569897
>quiet ratting space

cyka plz

>give orbit at 3 km command around immobile structure
>ship is orbiting at 4.9 km
>try to orbit 500m around small structure
>1300m orbit

the fuck is up with this shit

>>173571940
does it bother you

>>173571940
you have terrible agility and can't turn fast enough with your prop mod on

>>173570667
>Some have specific ingame channels for that, others have sigs and private chat rooms and others just have corps dedicated to that within the alliance.

This is the only way I've found of getting any kind of small gang pvp in nullsec. Don't wait for publicly announced fleets, that's just the necessary bullshit to keep your shit safe. It's hilarious if you can get into a group that actually lives in hostile areas, just to fuck around with the locals.

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>mfw guy tries to cyno but doesn't realize that there's cyno jammers up

>>173572468

It's a frigate. Prop mod is off.

>>173576084
>you have terrible agility
See above

kys maqiri

>>173569897
I'd rather not be food for fleet ops

>tfw don't know what to skill into next because everything's either too shit, too expensive or too time-consuming

>>173580810
max out any race's cruise, except caldari

Gallente
>Vexor
>Vexor Navy Issue
>Thorax
>Exeq Navy Issue
all fun as fuck to fly

Amarr
>Omen
>Omen Navy Issue (kitey dps platform)
>Maller (stupid tanky, semi brawler thing)
>Arbitrator (weapon disruption is stupidly underestimated in small gangs)
>Augoror Navy Issue (for meme tank)

Minmatar
>Scythe Fleet Issue (channel zarvox!)
>Rupture can be okay
>Stabber is best frigate in the game
>with Heavy Assault Cruisers lets you fly Vagabond which is actually the most fun ship to fly in the game


don't train caldari because all you have are pretty much
>rlml caracal (boring as fuck)
>blaster moa (the shield brawling meme ship)

>>173580810
>too expensive
What is too expensive?

ITT: Ideas that would cause complete and utter chaos
>Once per week, a randomly determined accessible K-space system is designated a "Galactic Nexus"
>Plex and skill injectors used in a station in this system have 20% more effect, when used for sub time or skill points (Skill injectors used by <5m sp character gain no additional benefit)
>Plex cannot be redeemed on a character within a few jumps and must be flown in
>This system changes at the end of each week

>50 replies
>page 9

Why is this general so dead?

People are trying to avoid interacting with Australians.

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Vexor or Algos for runing level 1 and 2 missions?

>>173581342
PLEX vault instantly kills that.

Large 'Sheriff' Shield Extender

Wait..looking at production skills, none of them affect material efficiency. So as long as I have production slots and a good place to build, I can buy minerals and build anything competitively?

>neet for 4 months
>burning through my savings
>can't afford to buy plex on a whim
This is awful

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>>173586330
Competitively changes over night.
You need to be able to produce quickly to make the most of market gaps, otherwise you get to the party too late to make any isk.

Also, you had better have some 10/10 BPOs

>tfw fell for ratting rattle meme (drone horde)
>or maybe im retarded(i mean i am, but maybe i even more retarded than i though)
>Got myself a RHML rattle, 1200 dps (1000 with reload) with target painter
>only good damage againts cruisers
>takes 20-24 heavy missiles to kill a BS
>gecko does all the damage
>basically VNI that doesn't require focusing rats, but also shit.
>Basically a dominix, but also expensive
>took 3k missiles with me, lasted 1.5 sites
Did i retarded? Should i try using cruises or maybe torpedoes with 2-3 painters and omnilink for gecko to kill frigs? Then i will have no tank...hmm.. what do? Or do rats have that high thermal resist, i used inferno because i "calculated" that they will deal more damage even if diffirence of em\therm resist is 20%

how am I supposed to make money
running missions and exploration is boring as hell and I am too retarded to play the market

can't I just have a space farm and sell wheat

>>173588405
Live in a wormhole and farm sites there.

>>173588405
>can't I just have a space farm and sell wheat
Thats basically what PI is. You'll never do anything beyond paying the monthly plex with it though.

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>Go to a ghost site
>Forget that the cans explode hard enough to 1-shot a frigate
Brb killing myself

>>173584172
please respond

is this game pay to win?

>>173587896
Interesting, thanks.

>>173588863
There's no "winning" in this game, so no.

>>173584172
noob here
the destroyer (algos) is extremely good vs frigates so I guess that
I don't remember what kind of enemies there are in level 2 missions but you should do fine

>doing l2-l3 missions
>not just grinding lvl 1 untill you can lvl4

>>173589057
you can't run lvl4s on an alpha

>>173589123
not with that attitude.

>>173588964
Is there skill involved?

What are COSMOS missions? I know they're used to get standings, and that the name means "space", but why were they added?

>>173589321
Is autism a skill?

>>173589321
sometimes
but usually no

>>173588169
use cruise missiles

>>173589321
Depends on what you're doing and the situation. Fair fights arent common.

>>173589321
it's pretty much a strategy game played from the perspective of a single unit

>>173556809
>new rupture model
>it's still a shitty fat triangle

>>173589760
>not loving fat triangles

>>173589321
Sortof. Experience and knowledge are more important than mechanical skill because most fights are decided before the engagement.

There are some skill intensive ships, but RLML also exist and they are a hard counter to them.

>afk rat
>in a snake
>get 20m ticks and salvage on the spot
Why didn't i do this sooner

>>173589942
Because you will eventually go afk in a rattle and come back to a pod in a station.

>>173589993
Nah, I look at Intel every so often

>>173589942
>afk snake
>salvage on spot
How? FoF cruises? My MTU can't even collect all wrecks in 30 minutes

>>173590021
From what I vaguely remember, you can make a bot that reads input and gives you a sound warning if an intel channel reports anything within your surrounding few systems.

You should probably go get that.

>>173589942
>salvage on the spot

what? how?

>>173590136
>intel chat doesn't say anything
>intel chat says something too late
>you tab into game to see your rattle webbed and scrobbled by 4 rats
>ganker's face when

>>173590161
>>173590127
I'm going to take a guess and say he uses heavy drones to kill rats and has salvagers in the highs.

Tabs out to his favourite gay porn website so the drones can do work on their own and just salvages wrecks every few minutes when he tabs back in.

>>173590221
Intel bots are pretty punctual, anon. Comes with being an automated text processing machine.

>>173590250
>salvagers in high
This makes more sense than using salvage drones...still though, why not use a dominix then?
>>173590312
Bots are punctual, people who report in intel are not. Or we have bots that auto report neuts now?

>>173589523
Can you help with fit? I thought i could be just warp in 0 and brawl like that...but with cruises i guess i have to use centries and mjd.

I remember there used to be something to do with data cores that could be done monthly for passive cash? Did they remove it?

>>173590826
I think it's still there but it wasn't any real money before and you can jsut do the same in 10 minutes with hacking sites.

Can an aplha clone rat effectively in a vexor/vexor navy issue for some decent isk/h so I can afford to plex an account (or two prefferably because I already have an alt)

Also why are the gallente ship skins all so shit?

How much do you think the Pacifier (CONCORD covops frig) will go for?

>>173592685
Is it any good?

>>173590531
Plesa, help

>>173590389
Dominix has less deeps and can't tank a forsaken hub while cap stable, with augmented ogres I can break 900 dps
I just run the booster and hardeners and salvage everything during the final 2 waves

>>173594852
>augmented drones
>ratting

m8 i want to gank you so hard right now

>>173595136
Come get me m8 I'll fuck off when you get within 4 systems of me

>>173595172
>get in ratting system
>warp to a forsaken hub
>get to 300km from it and align to it
>log off
>log back in 15 minutes later
>warp to ratting ship
>kill it

>>173594852
>augmented drones
Why do people use them, they are overpriced even when comparing to gecko.

Both with 4DDA: Dominix using gecko+2navy infiltrator+1navy acolyte vs Rattle with 1 gecko

Dom is 785dps and Rattle is 773

>>173590531
I personally fit fury cruises with 2 tracking computers and precision implants, hits for 3k per volley
Also there's no rule that says you can't sit at zero if you use cruises instead of rapids, use whatever racial heavy you see fit

>>173595327
>navy drones instead of t2
Also,
>using omni damage when many rats have at least one stat with 80%+ resists
Trust me I already tried geckos

>>173595516
>80%
I meant 70. Still my point stands

>>173595516
Using strictly heavy drones gives exactly the same dps. Why would you use drones that deal more than one damage type then? Why not only deal the highest damage you can?

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>>173592367
Answer pls :(

>>173590389
>Or we have bots that auto report neuts now?
Yes, that's an intel bot.
Alpha clone or SP/PI farm alt sitting in a system, reporting reds and neuts as they show up in local.

>>173595797
At some point it becomes worth it if the holes are right and the damage is high enough.
For example, a corpus apostle had 43 em resists and 53 thermal resists. That means when an augmented infiltrator has high enough damage, it outperforms infiltrator iis

>>173592367
>Can an aplha clone rat effectively in a vexor/vexor navy issue for some decent isk/h so I can afford to plex an account (or two prefferably because I already have an alt)
Since your trial is unlimited, yes, you can make enough isk to buy a plex. Not like you're on a timer.

>Also why are the gallente ship skins all so shit?
Say that to my police skins and not my face and see what happens.

Is there a way to set keybinds like lock target or orbit to work after I press the keybind without having to mouse click the target?

Augmented drones are fine for rattles, gilas and worms since you only use 2 at a time.

>>173596123
>one skin
>on 3 ships
>out of so many
Yeah, the majority's still shit

>>173596212
Black
Black-Brown
Sewer green
Navy Blue (black to me because i'm colourblind
Fucking orange

Amarr skins are the best by far.

>>173596305
Issue with amarr skins is that the default scheme is already so good that most skins are inferior. I only like purity of the throne.

Free camera mode when? It's not like there is any reason for camera to be locked to ship anyways, it's nothing more than green chevron.

>>173596423
>Free camera mode when?
It's called tactical camera or something

>>173596412
I really dont understand why we can't have customized skins, the ones we get are alredy just hue shifts+different logo on the hull. How difficulut can it be to give us a grayscale solour scheme we can change hues on, for example the gold and white bits on amarr ships seperately, and then give us an option to use our corporation logo on the hull? It would be so much better than a shit selection of hues and stuff like CAMO ON SPACE LOL

>>173596474
tactical camera is just a top-side view of the field
it's still locked to your ship

>>173596767
because
>hurr people will use them to paint dicks

>ignoring the fact that one of the main features of eve is you can do whatever you want
>ignoring that you can already make dicks out of deployables
>ignoring the fact that this game is meant for a mature audience

Basically, CCP's retarded.

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>tfw in a 4 way frigate brawl in a novice plex
>in a ancillary shield booster merlin
>live with 2% structure
>the last guy tells me im lucky
>mfw only reason it was that close was cause i forgot to overheat guns

>>173596873
right mouse drag releases your camera from your ship
You can also turn off tactical overlay while in tactical camera so you have basically free cam

>>173596767
>muh ironic pink pony skin
>I only do it ironically to le trigger you xD

>>173597476
He never said anything about custom decals, only corp logos.

Also, rosada dawn is a thing, but pink ships isn't?

>>173597087
>>173597476
So how about selling *paints* seperately and make a selection of 20-ish hues, none of them pink.
They could cost a lot more than the basic skins so people wouldnt spend billions on making phallic ships look any more phallic (and with no pink they wouldnt be able to)

So i guess i buy augmented drones for my rattle, try to refit it and then die and go back to not-really-afk-farming-VNI.

>>173597842
Train for an ishtar if you are afraid of losing that much money and still want to afk and don't mind slightly less ticks than a snake.

>>173597720
>They could cost a lot more than the basic skins so people would spend billions on making phallic ships look any more phallic
ftfy

>>173597927
i have all three and i lost maybe 4 ishtars so far (to being afk\retarded). I fitted snake into rhml and it was shit, now i maybe will try cruises or maybe augmenteds. I don't know what really to do other than VNIshtar and wait for carriers to train.

>>173597476
Horsecock-pink Avatar
Make it happen pls

Lowsec is deas

>>173599615
Ded

>>173599615
how many years did it take to figure this out

>>173599615
Why is lowsec deas?

>>173592685
Well only people who go to fanfest get one so there's maybe 1000 or less people who have them

Such a rare frigate probably go for a lot, at least a billion

>>173599871
Upwell timers on Refineries will kill one of the last abilities to generate content with other corporations

Now I have to wait over a week to get a fight when before I'd have to wait 24 to 36 hours

I have around 10 million ISK. How do I go about turning that into 100 million passively?

>>173600258
go to jita and get it doubled
not passive but takes like 4 doublings

>>173600258
PI

Is there a way to switch between UI layouts like overview brackets?

I'd like to be able to click a button and get my PVE layout, with probe scanner, intel, chat and such and then another button changes that to massive overview, dscan, big bold colors on my overview etcetera

>begin duel.
>dock immediately.

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>>173597720
They should make it like other games where each ship has maybe 3-4 different sections on it that can be colored and you use either a series of sliders or a color pallete to pick what color you want each section to be.
No I don't think you should have to pay to get more colors like Warframe, it was just the first game that came to mind.

>>173602828
But why has noone thought of this in a game that has existed for over a decade. It can be done with a few weeks of work at most.
"Engine limitations"?

>>173602828
That's already basically how it works
Except they won't let us do it
So we're stuck with shitty skins that ccp deems good.

current skins are ok desu, I don't want to see your epic mlp penis skins

>he actually believe current skin system is fine
Literally
Actually
Unironically
Fucking what

>cloaky camping? sure
>custom skins? fuck no

>I don't need any actual reasons I'll just post a load of reddit speak

>he actually thinks we need a proper reason for custom skins
Next you'll say we need a permit for fun

>>173596305
I like purity of the throne and the blood raider reskins

Why would we need skins at all if you can't see shit if you're zoomed close enough to see your ship properly? And in space lighting every ship looks black anyways.

me having to put up with your le funny pink skins isn't fun

phoenix redesign when
I like it but it's just a big brick with no details
wyvern redesign when
I like it but it's just a big brick with no details
badger redesign when
I like it but it's just a big brick with no details and no polygons and a 20x20 texture

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Where can I find good fittings? I'm a noob so I have no idea what is a good fitting.

fuck off with your 3dpd shit

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>>173605357

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>>173605536

>>173604046
>getting this butthurt over people in local you can't find
As someone who lives in lowsec, you just get used to knowing you could get jumped at any time, and be prepared to run or fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q&feature=player_profilepage

>permaband
kill yourself

>>173605051
>raven
>looks like fucking piece of shit
>CCP solution: rename raven to "train gallente"

>>173605218
https://zkillboard.com/

>giving low effort bait easy (You)s

>>173606183
>The Raven is the powerhouse of the Caldari Navy. With its myriad launcher slots and powerful shields, few ships can rival it in strength or majesty.
>majesty
I actually like the design of it, I just think that the model is a good few decades out of date

Losing your shit over bait isn't any better than replying to it.

>>173605218
what's her name

a couple of days ago someone posted a vni ratting fit with dual tracking links, anyone have it?

>>173606183
>>173606373
you not liking something doesn't mean it needs to be changed

>>173606645
I literally straight up said in my post that I like the design but the model has about 10000 too few polys and the texture is tiny
are you dense

>>173606719
but it's fine

>>173606743
it was updated in 2011 and even then it was a very, VERY minor update
cunt

>>173606897
your a cunt it looks fine

>>173606941
It needs
an update
if nothing else the textures are the wrong colour for the new caldari meme ships

Why are so many people upset about afk cloaking?

>krab tears are worth wasting time over

>>173607284
Probably because there is no counter to it other than "well if im unlucky i die".

>>173607284
Because it's hard to get rid of them

>>173607284
because it denies people content

>content

>I'm a content creator

>Hey guys what's up, this is my let's play of a 6/10 Blood Raider DED site in my new Paladin. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow. Retweet for a chance to win 200m isk! Thanks for supporting EVE content creators!

>6/10
>paladin

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>Let's play

>>173608986
actually it creates content :^)

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>>173609892

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Is it me or is /dog/ exceptionally autistic today?

we're just creating content
:^)

>>173610841
Is someone not logging in content to you? The only times I've ever experienced real cloaky camping the only result was that no one logged in because there wasn't any point. You can't win against cloaky camping unless you can answer with overwhelming forces. Cloaky campers mainly come out against miners and ratters which obviously can't fight back.

There's no content there, people just don't log in.

>>173612495
it lowers ADMs so you can invade them easily and kick them out
that's about it

unless you live with a super powerbloc like Goons, there's literally nothing you can do about extended afk cloaky camping

bait and kill them? great, generates content and encourages them to stick around
stop engagign and just leave the system? great, that's what they want you to do

it's not that cloaky camping is bad, it's that there's literally zero counterplay and you MUST operate on the camper's terms, since until he makes a move, you either can't do anything about it, or must expend an extraordinary amount of effort (shit like having 10 people in standby in combat ships doing literally nothing but staying at attention for several hours on the off chance that the camper makes a move)

>it lowers ADMs so you can invade them easily and kick them out
>this is what people actually believe

>a method of gameplay that reduces activity in a system ultimately reduces a metric that measures activity in a system
wow

can't you scan down cloaked ships?

>it lowers their corp participation and frustrates them to shit, meaning they go farm on their incursion alts so you can invade them easily and kick them out

>xhe actually thinks they are there to invade your trash space

>the everyone has an incursion alt meme

>xhe

newfag

>bait and kill them? great, generates content and encourages them to stick around

>if you kill your enemies, they win

>he doesn't have an incursion alt to do the safest activity in the entire game while earning 150m+ per hour

>he posts wrong info on an imageboard

>solo blops hunter
>bait and kill him
>his next 20 drops involve him and forty other friends because we baited him once
>he's on an incursion alt making billions while cloaky camping
>the newbro who joined a month ago doesn't know why we can't kill the single red in local

>he plays eve
el oh el

>he posts on an imageboard

>he
>assuming genders in current year

>current year
>assuming xe is posting on an imageboard just because you see some letters appearing on your screen

>>173612362
fuck every one of you today

>>173613804
>people think cloaky camping leads to fleet fights

AHHHAH HAHAHHHHAHAHA AHAHAHA AHAHHHHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

aha

AGHAHAHAHHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHhHAHHAHAHAHAHh

"Laughs in memes"

AHH AHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHhHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAH

Cloaky camping only leads to non-consensual PvP which is 100% just raping people. "Undocking is consenting to PvP" solution, don't undock.

>Undock and die, lose space
>Don't undock, lose space
>Organize some sort of blob alliance and fight off the campers with massive numbers, keep space (but lol-nullbabbies can't fight XD)

You faggots are the literal worst desu. "We just want fights and content!". Maybe you should stop fighting using turbo cancer where you can literally never lose engagements because you get to pick every fight you take and you specifically target corps that obviously can't fight back. If you guys actually wanted fights you would fight some sort of experienced PvP group, but you don't, you fight shitty nullcorps in some backass space ratting in ravens.


I mean if they deserved their space then they should be able to fight you off, but you're basically EVE bullies and you should at least be comfortable with that and stop pretending you want fair fights, because you seriously fucking don't. No one in EVE wants fair fights, they want fights that "seem fair" or "seem stacked against them" but are actually fights that they know they will win.

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>consensual pvp

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>You faggots are the literal worst desu

>>173614949
arena mode would literally fix all of this shit
but everyone here is going to downvote you because "muh sandbox" and "there should be real danger to being out in space", while they're all cloaked up in a deep safe

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>everyone here is going to downvote you

>elirte cloaky camping "PvP"
>check out this AWESOME FIGHT between 15 panthers vs 5 procurers!

>>173615496
>arena mode
Downvoted.

>>173615496
Kill yourself reddit I don't want your (you)

>/dog/ and reddit are different individuals

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Who would win in a shitposting contest, /eog/ dogposters or /poeg/ catposters?

why bother even having fur at that point?
you're just submerged in embryonic fluid

>>173616162
Sourcefam from /agdg/ or lulu-poster from /lolg/ shitpost more than everyone here combined in a single day.

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>>173616357
>tfw Lulu will never go swimming inside me

I Just started today

What skills should I start learning?

Where do I go?

Where do I learn where to go?

How to I not get blown up?

>>173617170
>reddit spacing
kys

>>173617621
>attributing a general writing format to a particular website that you yourself would have to frequent to recognize and then insulting someone for using.

Kill yourself

>>173617170
Join All-Out

>>173617864
(You)

>>173618147
Its a fair point. I'll post a pic sometimes and get called a redditfag even though I had no idea it was a reddit pic because I don't go to reddit. It was fucking pepe too, so I guess reddit owns pepe now, but that was pretty much confirmed when no one was posting pepe on /mlpol/ during fools day.

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>>173616987
>tfw lulu will never taste my purple

>xhey unironically lurk other generals

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>/lolg/

>>173619030
>xhe stays in his circlejerk pocket community like a sheltered forumfag.

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>>173620960

>total net worth: 4,3 billion
Where the fuck is everything

>>173622547
>ze thinks ze is entitled to that knowledge

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>my Pandemic Horde application got declined because I'm Minmatar

>>173627802
why would you want to play an undisciplined slave junker? American?

oneiros

QUESTION!

Are frigates good for solo/small gang PvP? Can I learn a lot from them? I'm talking the entirety of frigates, t1/t2 and pirate faction. Or are cruiser skills more useful? I can fly t3 cruiser, and I'm training for machariel mission jewing right now, but I want to break into PvP. I've heard that frigates are a meme but idk if this is actually true.

How many fights am I going to have to not take in a frigate compared to another size of ship? I'd like to win fights but I understand I need to gain experience in PvPing in order to do so. I'm worried about getting fucked by destroyers and cruisers specifically designed to kill frigates. If it matters my skills for frigates are very good and I'll be able to fly pretty much any frigate optimally.

Yes, amarr frigates and all assault frigates are awesome

you're gonna spend more time looking for fights than actually getting them
where are you looking for these fights?

frigates are pretty good in lowsec, and if you've got a small gang, you can always poke your head into faction warfare space, even if you're not part of a militia

https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/biotech-companies-begin-mass-synthesis-of-kyonoke-antidote-after-inquest-success/

That was fast.

>>173630887
Well, if New Eden manufacturing facilities can make a battleship in two hours I doubt antidotes are a problem.

>>173630887
There's still the sabotages and whatnot and some people missing tho.

>>173630887
>guys there's this incredibly deadly plague we haven't been able to cure for decades and there are outbreaks everywhere, what do?
>lol nevermind found a cure in 3 days xD
What a fucking disappointment of a storyline.

I hope the cure turns everyone into drifter drones.

>>173630282
I personally fucking hate frigates.

If you're using a brawly frigate/scram kiting frigate, you have a hard time disengaging, you get assraped by gatecamps because you align slowly and you die to pretty much everything that isn't retard fit. You especially die to anything with a RLML rack, which is pretty much the most popular weapon in the game.

If you fly a kitey frigate, you autokill imbeciles, but against anyone with some basic ability, you're on a knife edge which is horrible for newcomers because frigates are made of paper and completely unforgiving.

Either way, you learn very little of actual use. If you want to learn how to fight properly, join a corp and join their combat ops, then ask for advice. Learning on your own is a bad meme.

>>173631232
There was no cure because the disease was contained in one place.

>>173631375
read the fucking link m8

They found the cure during the "inquest" aka the roleplay faggotry during fanfest.

>>173627802
>Horde declining apps
Don't lie, anon.

Horde takes anyone, even obvious spies.

Thinking of training into force recon ships, which racial cruiser is best to take to 5 first for them?

>>173631835
Arazu

>>173631835
Arazu for that sweet tackling bonus.

>>173631835
Arazu if you're a manly Gallente, Falcon if you're a gay Fagdari.

But actually get a lachesis.

>>173632813
>force recon

>>173632813
But without a cov ops cloak how will I achieve maximum voyeur?

>>173561465
All these people trying to shit on brave are the same risk averse fags who join panfam. Just do it it's not much of a commitment so you can always leave if you don't like it.

>>173630282
You can learn how to not be a complete retard with them, but thats about it. If you're in a small gang you could learn some other things unless you're in a gatecamp.

>>173631327
Alright, I've been in a PvP alliance before (though I didn't PvP, except for mandatory ops, even then I went to one and never went again) but I did listen and look at the doctrines and shit so I have an idea what to train. I guess I'll just keep doing missions and building my assets for a while and keep training. I've been playing eve for a few years so I'm used to training for a while before actually doing stuff.

I'll probably apply to a PvP corp in a year or so but now I have another question.

Do PvP only alliances reject people for not having dank solo killboards? My killboard is shit, like really shit. My worst loss was a hauler carrying like 300 mil through nullsec, mostly because that was literal full retard. I have quite a bit of mining barge losses and a few exhumer losses. I also have a decent amount of cov-ops losses with 300 mil+ in loot.

I have like 3 kills.

>>173633218
Oh also I've played EVE long enough to know that doing stuff with people who know what they're doing, and talking with people who know what they're doing is the way to not be shit. I saw so many dank solo fags be complete retards in ops because they didn't listen to the FC and did their own shit.

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>>173633478
>>173633218
m8, you're highly likely to end up training the wrong thing.

Go join literally any pvp corp, go join Horde or karmafleet or co2 if you want. They will tell you what to train and how to get better.

We've been considering making a sortof newb corp for /eog/, but the effort involved in actually making it good is too high and most of us are burned out from the last one. Think about that for a second when looking for a corp - there aren't many people who will go out of their way to help you get better, but you still need to learn from someone.
I'd suggest you just go join horde on any one character and look at what they have to offer. Doesn't even have to be your main, just any omega character will be fine.

>>173604873
>I want custom skins
>hurr you only want pink dildos
>>173604787
I spend my time n station 90% of the time

Jesus it must suck being you

>>173605051
>badger redesign when
announced at fanfest, currently in the drawing phase
probably arrive around september 2019

>>173618389
It's because the image had an imgur filename.

>>173637259
>drawing, making the meshes and lod takes 2 fucking years
>meanwhile a single modder takes 6 months
Sounds legit since we're talking about CCP.

>>173590826
It's still there but you have to have good science skills and enough standing with a handful of specific NPC corps to access L4 agents. And even then it's not good money.

>watching game balance panel
>first question - lol anything about serenity?
no, china government bullshit
>second question - lol cloaking device remove you from local?
piece of shit faggot wastes almost 10 minutes of dev time with his fanfiction egojizz retarded idea

wow

>>173638431
Wait, cloaks will remove you from local?

>>173638596
ofc not

>>173604046
There's nothing wrong with cloaky campers.

>>173638596
no, it was during the game balance panel
where some faggot was all "i have this really cool idea that no one has ever come up with" and then proceeded to waste 10 minutes of the panel's time with his own little story, and the TL:DR of his story was "can you make cloaks remove you from local?"

to which the devs said "wow, you're fucking retarded, no", but much nicer

>>173639482
here's a link to recorded game balance panel, if you missed it during Fanfest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNHv7nEzGM

>you want ant changes at all?
>no fuck you the game is already perfect any change is bad
Sums up dog pretty well wouldn't you think

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>Serenity

>>173640432
t. cloakfag

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This game is still breathing?

Looking pretty good, desu. Making me want to come back.

Did they get rid of the dyke, though?

>>173612943
Just eat the ship loss.

>>173640895
>Did they get rid of the dyke, though?

Fuck off, shit taste weebshit.

>>173641054
No.

>just eat the ship loss while campers farm their effortless kills xddd

>>173641054
No.

>>173641054
>retarded cloakfag still doesnt get it

>>173641054
>why did you warp your rattlesnake away when you saw 6 legions on dscan?
>just eat the shiploss lmao

>>173606538
>her

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>>173612943
>bait and kill them? great, generates content and encourages them to stick around

lol no.

cloaky campers are some of the saltiest faggots you can imagine.

Anything that fights back and wins will just piss them off.

Sure, it will make them want to camp the area more in the short term,

but once it keeps happening, they will just leave and go somewhere else where they actually get kills instead of being killed and laughed at.

Most of them anyway, some of the more autistic faggots will see you as a challenge, so you lose 80% of the cloaky campers, but the ones that remain are the ones who aren't retarded most of the time.

Downvoted every single one of you.

>>173642421
>tl:dr, be goons

>>173643284
>wow, how dare you not want faggots sitting in your system completely undetectable on their cloaky alts for days at a time, ready to drop a carrier on you if you dare to do content

>>173643632
>how dare you commit the time and effort of 10+ people to just sit there in a combat capable ship waiting for the afk cloaky camper to make a move once over the span of 20 hours

>>173643284
>bring corvette roam to Delve
>get titan dropped on you

how much are you faglords gonna cry when i'm cloaky camping you 24/7 with my nullified cloaky neut legion

prepare to get your ass rammed, kiddos

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>Legion

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>Legion

>>173643834
>Titan DDs corvettes
>Isk positive

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>>173643835
prepare to never rat safely again now that covops is getting removed from the dmg subsystem

rat while you can shitlords

slave mining losers deserve to lose their income for being too fucking stupid to actually play the game

>>173644002
>>173644049
retard idiot dog posters have no idea about actually playing the game

color me not surprised

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>>173644229
>legion

>>173643834
>drop titan and a fully insured, unfit carrier on frig roam
>DD the carrier in a line that kills all the frigs
>lel +39 killmarks

>>173644104

I hope that is still draft.
T3C's need to choose between cloaky and nullification. Only the yacht should have both.

>wow how dare you make money your way

>>173612943
suck it up you whiny faggot

>you must operate on the campers terms
you're not entitled to safety simple as that

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>Amarr

>you're not entitled to safety
Says the cloakfag lol

>>173644543
>you must operate on the campers terms
>but it's okay to be entitled to perfect safety by being cloaked up in a deep safe

the fucking hypocrisy

>>173644104
Did they say anything about the loki specifically? It has both amor and shield subsystems but both suck massive dicks.

>cap/pwg
I really hope it doesn't mean they are merging them together because this isn't a nerf at all

>RR t3
No

>>173644883
>buy a shitton of components a Jita
>only managed to sell half of them at the target station
>wander 30+ jumps trying to sell the other half with no losses
>I now have to come back to my home station

Hauling is truly a meme

why are you replying to me

>>173644648
>Cloaker gets nothing from being there unless he decloaks
>once he does he can be killed
It's effectively the same as sitting in station. Only difference is you're being a pussy about it Because he COULD hot drop a fleet. Every other sector of EVE can deal with it. There are war targets in High, there are Slave gangs in low and there are infinite ammounts of cloaker t3's in WH.

>>173644883
>this isn't a nerf at all
They did say rebalance, not nerf. Everything depends on the numbers anyway.

>>173645070
Dint mean to reply

>>173645193
>still using the station excuse
>doesn't realize that you show up as being "in station", as opposed to being in an impossible to find deepsafe
>doesn't realize that people who own those stations can lock unwanted guests out

and the part they never have an appropriate answer to
>it's okay for one person who is AFK to force such a disproportionate response from the people who live in the systems

>>173645193
Once again nullfags are the biggest pussies in the game. If anything they deserve the cloakers.

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>>173639805
>make afk griefing easier cloakfag
>give every race a VNI so alphas can rat
>let us build everything in a single null region
>20 minute rant about hardeners having the same stats
>guy who wants to run lvl4s with his friends
>pls make more ppl move to lowsec so we can shoot them
>CCP i want to kill travelceptors and i don't like fighting swordfleet
>why can you shoot through ships? can you rewrite the whole game to appease my autism please?
>when will the door open? :DDDDD
>let me export all the ice i've mined
>make afk cloaking harder pvefag
>buff missiles pls caldarifag
>let us spam citadels like small pos but we also don't want to clean up our WHs so pls remove citadels that we didn't anchor
>i made 500b farming drifter incursions in trashers, when will they come back?
>i want to ECM burst and MJD away in my marauder
>rebalance citadel weapons
>let me short the trit market and sell derivatives

>>173646032
what did you expect?
it's just an in-person version of the eve online forums

going to fanfest speaks more about people's desire to go and willingness to pay, and less their actual understanding of the game and or skill

>>173645962
You are the ones that are choosing to do that. You also chose to drop 127 bubbles on gate and other bullshit. Just watch Dscan and stop being a fag about losing a ship every now and then.

>>173646237
>still doesn't have an actual answer to the core problem
okay kiddo

>just watch dscan
>cloak

>>173646328
The core problem is you're being a pussy. The solution is for you to stop being a pussy.

did they say anything about apocalypse cap at fanfest

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>>173646237
>ever losing PVE ships

>>173644736
You are being hunted

they are the predator, you are the prey

TO AVOID GETTING KILLED YOU HAVE TO AVOID THE PREDATOR

so yes, you will get fucked if you be stupid

>>173646328
There is no solution. You want risk free ratting. You can either go somewhere else or bait the cloaky camper. Everything you hate about cloaky camping could be done with slightly more effort via logoff.

>drops 20 bombers on a procurer
>omg haha such a pussy miner xd

>>173647408
>hunt
>sitting still

keep getting your friends to bandwagon, i'll wait

>>173646328
There is no core problem

you are a whiny bitch wanting a safer way to rat by making up some stupid idea to stop cloaky campers which you don't wanna put up with

You're as bad as the faggot at Fanfest who wanted to stop cloaks from working near gates so he could catch blockade runners and shit

>>173647282
No, T1 battleships aren't on their radar

>>173647506
>>hunt
>>sitting still
how do you know hes sitting still? How do you know hes a bomber and not just watching your system for intel?

>effortless kills
>not a problem

>dying
>ever

Gitgud

go to another system, bait them out, do something

hell go as far as to brick tank a prophecy, throw a cyno on, drop a naglfar and kill their blops battleships

Theres so much shit to punch the blopser in the nose its unreal and you complain its impossible to stop them

>>173647738
Only effortless if the target is new or retarded.

you guys done sperging yet?
i see a lot of "stop crying" but still no actual arguments

>>173647968
this is bait

>>173647713
He's fucking in the same system all the time, he doesn't do shit. It's not a hunter t3 that actually moves and can hit differrent areas

>>173647875
>implying they gonna uncloak if something could go wrong

>>173647904
Doesn't matter, No battleship can just tank 20 bombers

>>173647904
Hey it's almost like that's most of nullsec. What a surprise. It's like sheep demanding to not be slaughtered.

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>i plex my 30 afk cloaking bomber alts with SP farming
>these people that actually undock and live in nullsec just need to git gud

>>173648016
>He's fucking in the same system all the time, he doesn't do shit. It's not a hunter t3 that actually moves and can hit differrent areas
if you're so sure then just rat or if you wanna be safe go to a different system

>>implying they gonna uncloak if something could go wrong
>wah something could go wrong
but they blops on tons of shit dont they? so bait them out, pretend to rat and shit

>Doesn't matter, No battleship can just tank 20 bombers
then use a smaller signature radius ship like a prohecy, dual plate it, do maximum resists, mids full of scraps and a cyno in the high-slot

>>173648016
If they are committing 20 bombers to camp you 24/7 that is a massive tradeoff for them and they should be able to kill your 200m ship. They are paying way more in opportunity cost for the fun.

Asking you to have a few people on standby to stop 20 people on standby is not unreasonable but for some reason you want it even more skewed

>>173648000
not bait, genuinely curious to know if there's actually an argument for what it's okay that 1 person, who may or may not be AFK, to necessitate an excessive amount of response

you say just bait him and kill him
okay, i'll accept that solution, but now the problem is that i need to keep a squad of 5+ people, maybe up to even 10 to be ready to respond to an X in fleet chat for a warp in
they need to just sit there, maybe chit chat on comms, but for all intents and purposes, they've stopped playing the game

why is this okay?

(also, the whole "you shouldn't be safe in space" argument holds no water as cloakfags can actually do that already, defeating their own argument with double standards of "it's not okay for you, but okay for me")

>>173647904
Wow you mean like a lot of null people? Never not drop on a 2 month old char in a domi to show off how elite we are right haha

>>173648175
>blops
If only. It's just bombers. Can't even remember when I last saw a blops.

>>173648334
>massive tradeoff

>>173648338
>ot bait, genuinely curious to know if there's actually an argument
m8 I posted tons of counter-arguments and ways to punch blopsers in the nose

take your weak bait elsewhere

Oh man you have to prepare half as many people as the blops fleet does to slap their shit? wow it must be so hard to form 5 guys to counter drop fucking blopsers

>why is it OK that I have to WAIT for people to take my bait
because thats how a trap works. The blopsers do the same shit, they wait for a target to appear then take the shit

>>173648464
>If only. It's just bombers. Can't even remember when I last saw a blops.
then be ready at the station with a ton of shit to haze frigs

bring a ton of interceptors they're ultra fast and bombers can't touch them

>>173648542
>m8 I posted tons of counter-arguments and ways to punch blopsers in the nose
>tons of counter-arguments

i'm reading through everything above ,and it's all just "suck it up and stop being a bitch", i don't see any actual arguments, or maybe it's just difficult for me to tell what's actually your counter argument vs the retardsperg that your corpmates spewed when you told them you were getting in an internet argument you couldn't win on a chinese picture board

>>173648334
you've obviously never dealt with one of the more cancerous afk cloaking groups. they put a FREE alt in every single system of a region and there is nothing you can do about it.

it's literally just a handful of nerds with large SP farms and a few batphones

>>173648542
>must constantly have 5+ dedicated people at-the-ready in system to respond to random blopsers
gee doesn't that sound like a pain in the ass just to counter 1 afk faggot who may or may not do something?

>>173648464
>It's just bombers
You can do a smartbombing battleship

the smartbombs firewall the torpedos and the smartbombs kill the otherwise tankless bombers

>>173648812
>i'm reading through everything above
No you're fucking not

do a bait trap, bait them, draw them out, light a fucking cyno. Warp out, be aligned something, change systems

>>173648883
>wah I don't do the simplest of things to bait out bombers

If I can do it in null, you can too. Stop whining, gitgud