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Join All-Out

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link (chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

>>>>>>>
Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy (embed)
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Now:
>Fanfest & T3C Re-balance.
>CONCORD Ships

Future: (https://updates.eveonline.com/)
>New Suns
>PLEX and AUR change:
>https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-changes-on-the-way/
>https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-rework-follow-up/
>Missile changes?
>https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6894505
>Upwell Refineries:
>https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-upwell-refineries

Past:
>March 14: "improved" Probe/Dscan, Fighter, HIC and Rorq changes.
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes, nobody likes Reyni (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

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1st for no pl in csm
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New player, how do I find a good corp for some nice nullsec pvp?
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kys goons
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Something I realized while reading corp chat. You can't spell 'conspiracy' without 'piracy'.
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>>173367898
>how do I find a good corp for some nullsec pvp?
Pick a big nullblob, look at the most active corps on their killboards, pick one you meet the reqs for, apply.

>>>>nice
lol ur fucked
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>>173367912
Why are down syndrome people allowed outside?
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>>173367898
>nullsec pvp

Pfffft ha ha ha ha ha ha
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tfw you aren't in iceland sucking martin's dick
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>>173368029
You should ask them while you're there.
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>convo a guy after getting blown up mining in NPC null
>offer to sell him warp disrupt probes for below Jita buy
>he agrees
>contract them out a couple jumps from where my production line was already set up
>three days later, no response
Where are you, piratebro? ;_;
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>>173368228
How much less il buy
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>>173366089
The 10 is to offset the loss of 25 from implants. Any less and the peak training speed will be lower, and even with 10, a long plan with attributes optimised for different skill types will be slower.

They would need base stats at 22 instead of 17, and keep the 14 assignable with a max of +10 to keep the same current training speed.

Alternative might be base stats of 20 instead of 17, 24 assignable, with max of +10 to any one stat. That would give the same 2700sp/hr peak as there is currently. 20 assignable would be minimum to keep 2700/hr peak, but would be slower for longer varied skill plans.
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Does anyone know if Providence is a good region for exploration? I know it's CVA space, but they're (AFAIK) pretty OK with neutrals in their system.

Any other people I need to watch out for there? Will pirates be a big problem or do CVA keep them out?
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>>173368794
Barely less. The real advantage was that this whole exchange happened in Derelik and buying at Jita buy from Jita meant flying 25+ jumps.
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>>173369080
They still kill neuts dude
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Somebody PLEASE recommend me a corp that is OK with people not talking on comms
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>>173369080
CVA as a whole is fine with neutrals in their system but individuals will fuck you up for no reason, they don't do an absolutely terrible job of keeping pirates out but that's more because there's not much reason to bully Provi. That said, Providence is picked clean. It's shit for exploration.
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>>173369318
any nullblob
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>>173369318
Any highsec corp
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>>173369328
>corp is doesn't attack neutrals
>corp members do
???

What's a good region for exploration then? I know Sansha is generally the best sites to run, and I figured Provi was good since it was owned by a neutral-friendly alliance.
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>>173369318
pandemic horde. ive been in it a month and ive talked to no one in it and have joined zero fleets.
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>perfect chance to update OP with fanfest shit
>doesn't do it
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>>173369629
more like
>most of proviblock doesn't attack neutrals
>a handful do
>there's no easy way to tell which is which
Provi is "safe" but that also means it's shit. Go on dotlan and find somewhere with low jumps/hour instead of asking to be handfed. Or just suck it up and dive wormholes.
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>>173369492
>>173369550
>>173369632
t-thanks
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>>173369632
lel, what's even the reason for joining then?
Just to use the rest of PL space for ratting etc?
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>>173369704
Name one (1) thing announced today worth putting in the OP.
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>>173369963
Not that guy, but strategic cruiser rebalance? Assuming we have some details on it.
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>>173369963
details of the T3C rebalance, new remodels, in-depth structure and UI changes, blood raider event stuff, implant update and more

It's easier to accept that you're shit.
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>>173370054
>we're fixing T3Cs by jiggling their subs around and allowing them to do better refit cancer with rigs
>but we aren't fixing their tank or cloaking or anything

can't remember if they said anything about sp loss
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>>173370054
>>173370123
>It's easier to accept that you're shit.
Yeah. Fair. You make the OP next time.
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>launch eve after 3 months
>was in All-Out
>Kicked from corp (because inactivity probably)
>corp only has one person now

wtf happened, someone please weigh in
where did they all go?
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>All-Out
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>>173370356
did someone get pissed and kick everyone from corp or something?
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>>173370265
>3 months
I'm hazy on the time scale, but I think 3 months ago All-Out was just living out of Duloc in the C2 with only like 5 active members? That number became 4, and then 3, and then an unanorching timer started on the citadel. CEO posted edited screenshots "proving" it was just a glitch in discord, nobody logged in to check, citadel unanchored and everyone got kicked from corp.

tl;dr Kainar Detremov stole ~1 bil in All-Out assets and proceeded to whelp a megathron two days later.
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>>173369831
Where though? I can only find most active systems
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>>173370152
Pretty sure they're doing things such as moving the cloaking subsystem to the defensive slot, which might address tanking/cloaking. I assume this means we'll have to choose between having an actual tank, or fitting a cloak.
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>>173370475
and everyone with a pulse joined oruze
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>>173370484
Use dotlan to find areas that you have a hunch are low traffic, check jumps in the last 24 hours, repeat until you find a couple close together that look good.
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>>173370475
holy shit, wow

when i stopped playing, there were at least 30 active members, maybe it was a little more than 3 months
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>>173370606
I didn't. But /dog/ hates me because I'm bad at PvP.
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>>173370728
who are you
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>highsec too constrained
>lowsec no fun
>wormholes require too much scanning
>nullsec full of no-fun blobbers

wat do?
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>>173370484
whats the name of that version of pepe again? Its like aspulati or something like that?
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>>173370795
Last time I posted my character name in thread it lead to 20-ish posts of shitflinging. Maybe half of it actually had to do with me but still.
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>>173371038
>>173370795
Prob the ex-leader of MLJ
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>>173370901
Why is lowsec no fun? Dead? No bubbles?

Live in NPC null. Unironically.
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Is joining the covops corp of a major alliance a good idea if I have the skills needed?
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>have the isk for a super
>pilot needs another 47 injectors
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>>173371145
low activity, low-value resources, few and far-in-between fights

feels like there's nothing to do in lowsec, everyone is there to pass through.
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>>173371270
Have you tried the FW areas?
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>>173371226
>buying this many injectors
There's a reason the price of them keeps on going up and up.

Which gives me an idea: is getting almost everyone I know to make alpha accounts, do the tutorial until the get the mini skill injector, putting it in their rookie ship's hold, and then getting all of them to go to Jita and jettison the lot of them into space at once likely to get me banned if I'm "coincidentally" there at the time and scoop one or two?
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>>173371145
downgraded game mechanics (gateguns, no bubbles no bombs)
it being densely populated by lots of different groups is nice for gudfite gangs finding stuff to do, but it also suffers from jump drive cancer - there's always people who can drop aids on you or get friends to do it
and fw is full of frigates with really stupid fits, the "muh afterburner" factor in FW has made it all about retarded hull tanked scram kiters with very little variety if you're doing 1v1s in plexes
plus everyone uses pirate implants all the time because you cannot pod people unless they leave their home system and you bring along extra people flying smartbomb memes, and also get the guy in a pod in the first place which can be challenging sometimes
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>>173371552
you're 6 months late
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>>173371557
>>173371270
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>>173371145
>Live in NPC null
?

Sounds like nothing's going to give you exactly what you want but that's probably the closest.
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>>173371226
>have the isk for a couple of carriers
>still not enough to inject a pilot
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>>173371652
If they all jettison at the same time, in Jita 4-4, then there will be dozens of people who get them. All with plausible deniability, because how will they know who organised it?
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>>173371841
I thought they removed mini skill injectors and its now just a stack of SP they give you?
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>>173371936
Nope. They're still there. Can't be sold or placed in contracts, but they're still a physical item.
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>turret tracking
>150.15
Did they change the number they put there? Is it no longer radians? or is this tiny gun actually that high?
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anyone remember what bot our boi jimmy used to link his scams into local?
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>>173372263
they factored in signature resolution so you can compare different gun sizes without doing stuff
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>>173371557
>plus everyone uses pirate implants all the time because you cannot pod people unless they leave their home system
wtf
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>>173372605
>faggot warps his pod out to one of his 10 docking bookmarks on one of his 10 citadels

you need the smartbombs and they ideally need to be leaving system in that pod
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Thanks for recommending the Stellardrone album. I forgot to post earlier. It was perfect answer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYqICxQG8BY
>goons
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>dbrb
pls don't associate that faggot with us
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Why do WH dwellers autistically destroy any daytrippers they find?
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>implying not all goons are faggots
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>>173372914
Some combination of "leaving other pilots in system means they can gather intel on you" and "you actually have to have autism to live in J-space"
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>>173372914
there's nothing else for them to do, and they need to feel like they're elite pvp
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>>173373117
>not using your nullsec static to fuck with nullsec dwellers through hit-and-run sov flipping

WH dwellers are officially fags
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>>173370610
Man, you weren't kidding when you said Providence was crowded, holy shit.
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>>173374196
super secret exploration protip
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>>173372046
They don't do anything if you're beyond 1.5m (I think?) total SP

I've been skillqueing an alpha for a while and decided to do the tutorial to see what they did to it recently and the whole thing crapped out when it told me to inject the mini-injector and it wouldn't let me.
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>>173372338
Is there a way to make it show it in rads/s? or do I need to work it out myself for every gun now?
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>>173375958
this is a more relevant stat, you don't need to know rad/s it doesn't tell you anything
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61360098/
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>>173376206
How do we now find out the tracking component of chance to hit using it? Before i knew my guns tracking, looked at overview tracking, and roughly knew whether tracking would be 1/2 chance, no chance, or good chance.
Now I have a number I can look at, and have no idea how well my guns can or can not track something showing a 0.15 angular on my overview.
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>>173374196
>>173375483
Try tenal/branch too, it's fucking DEAD
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>>173376213
>that Minmatar face
>killed by a guy with "Amarr" in his name
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>rats have mining fleets now
>they call backup
>with logi and hero tackle and even an FC ship that calls targets for them

... so belt rats can literally kill Mordus now?
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>>173376696
>showing a 0.15 angular on my overview

you had no idea from that number before either, you need to see the target's sig too, and the sig res of your own guns

if you really must be this autistic and bad, I think the accuracy score thing you're all mad about is something like tracking speed / sig res * 1000
should be something about it here https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Turret_damage#Turret_tracking
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>Warp to plex
>see rifter
>get excited for leet frigate pvp action
>theres a curse huginn and rook all hugging his nuts at 0
>get ECM'd before i could even lock the rifter

What did they mean by this
>
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>>173376213
>that guy's killboard
>been active since 2008
>not a single kill
>myfuckingsides.jpg
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>apply for a corp
>guy messages me, we chat for a bit
>he seems nice enough
>asks for my API key, I don't think much of it and give it to him
>next day all my ISK gone

wtf guys
is there anything i can do? I didn't know API keys let people drain your wallet...

fuck it, i don't like this game anyways
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>>173375483
>stain
>protip
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>>173377970
nice meme
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>>173378164
fuck you, all my isk is gone and you just crack dumb jokes...
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>>173377970
What corp did you apply to that stole all of your isk?
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>>173378473
K.A.D.M.U.S

should i even bother petitioning CCP?
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>>173378603
>should i even bother petitioning CCP?
no. kys for lying about something as stupid as this in this thread.
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>>173378714
i'm not fucking lying, my wallet is empty
why even respond if you're not going to help?
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>>173378837
>i'm not fucking lying

because an api key just lets you see what someone does on their account. that's it.
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>>173377442
>you had no idea from that number before either, you need to see the target's sig too, and the sig res of your own guns
Not true. As I said before, we knew the angular tracking component. Something that could be influenced by piloting and fitting. The sig radius / res thing was thought of as another component which is usually 1 or better than 1 for same size shooting, or less than for down shooting. The number we get now might be useful to compare between guns, but we would need some similar new number in the overview to use it like the old figure.

>I think the accuracy score thing you're asking about is something like tracking speed / sig res * 1000
should be something about it here https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Turret_damage#Turret_tracking

Thanks
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>>173379005
Apparently not, because my wallet is EMPTY.
Here's a screenshot, and that's the MOST I can offer for proof.

I've gone ahead and opened a ticket with CCP, let's see where this goes
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>>173379104
>The sig radius / res thing was thought of as another component which is usually 1 or better than 1 for same size shooting, or less than for down shooting

they're effectively multipliers for your transversal/tracking. you need all the numbers or it's meaningless
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>>173377970
It seems a lot more likely that he asked you for a deposit, which you stupidly gave him, or that he offered you a contract to move your things that you didn't look closely at.

There's definitely something you're not telling us, or you're just plain lying.
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>>173379257
And what do your journal and transactions say? I'm not sure what you expect us to do to to "help" you, other than ask you to check the extremely basic things. Like, the kind of things you should have thought about on your own.
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>>173379368
No deposit, no contract.

He asked for a full API key, and I gave him mine. He said OK and that he'll accept my application tomorrow.
That was yesterday. I logged in today, the application was still not accepted, and my wallet is EMPTY.
I don't know what else to say, this is exactly the sequence of events. Nobody else uses my computer, and I don't use the same password on other sites.

>>173379458
They don't show anything different. The last thing I bought was some Veldspar from Jita, and that's the last thing my transactions say. I wouldn't have posted if it was something like that. There's no record in my wallet window or journal of money leaving the account.
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>>173379591
The only thing the API would do is tell him what's in your wallet, your possessions, and the like. It's the first step to scamming someone. You still have to fall for the scam. There's no actual way to transfer the money until someone, on your computer, logged into your account, pushes a button.
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>Just welped my first ship after long-term skill train
>At coffee shop trying to think of how to get my shit together
>notice cute ship has been in my hangar for some time
>board her and spin a little
>go back to staring at my coffee
>undock and hit alt+space instantly
>somehow tama is already set to destination
>little reluctant, think it’s a trick
>jump into system
>only friendlies and one neut in local
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>accidentally warp to novice at 0
>neutral tristan sitting at gate
>overview starts flashing yellow
>get warp scrambled
>suddenly drones everywhere
>in structure
>neut ejects a jetcan
>loot it
>spaghetti inside
>try to warp off
>start to cry
>get embarrassed and eject
>hit self destruct on pod
>mfw the tristan pulled his drones and docked up

i fucking love this ship
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>>173379591
Show us a screenshot with all your transactions. If you did indeed get scammed, we should see a large deduction at which your ISK goes to 0.
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>>173379687
For the second time, I did nothing like that. NO deposit, NO contract made, NO contract accepted. I literally gave him my API key and that was it, and now I have no ISK.

I appreciate the explanation, but this isn't getting anywhere. I'll wait for CCP's response to my ticket.

>>173379865
I don't really feel comfortable with sharing my transactions, but I just checked again, and there's no deduction. The most recent entry is the Veldspar I got from jita, and nothing else.

>inb4 "ur not sharing ur history so u must be lying!!!"
please fuck off, i have no reason to lie about the transactions and i know how to use the transaction window
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>>173379335
>you need all the numbers or it's meaningless
No it wasn't. For the occasions where sig/res is one, or close to one, the number was super useful. You know by what you were fighting whether it was close to 1. For the times when target angular was too high for your guns, you knew you needed bonuses from somewhere to start hitting.
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>>173378076
it was to highlight the technique used to find empty systems, it wasn't to highlight stain specifically
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>>173380047
Not your wallet transactions, your wallet journal, which details every single deposit and withdrawal from your account.

This page should provide every answer to why you lost your money.

If you cannot show me this, then I see no further reason why I should help you.
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>>173380442

I checked both, and there's no indication on either. Both the Journal and Transactions windows are same as yesterday. My wallet is empty with no large deduction on either the Journal or Transactions windows.

And I'm not going to post my wallet history, because I'm certain that some autist here is going to use API wizardry to figure out my character name and bother me in-game
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>>173380127
knowing weapon accuracy score, and then having an overview column for rad/sec/sig would be best. there's no reason for tracking speed to ever be separate from sig res
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>>173378290
You're the real joke tho
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>>173380618
ur autism
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EVE is pretty fun. I only started few days ago, I wish I had started when it was having it's peak. Is the game dying?
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>>173377958

> Lanngisi

it is just someone's mission running alt
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>>173381238
the player count has been higher, but only faggots go around declaring games dead or dying
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>>173381238
I mean, dying in the same way as WoW has died - it's unbalanced mess and then Blizzard obliterates existing content so 99% of the game is obsolete which doesn't offer any reason to play it.
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>>173381340
I like feminine penises but I'm not gay.
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>>173381238
Eve has been "dying" since 2010
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>>173381535
this desu senpai
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Is Pandemic Horde still the best noob-friendly corp these days?
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>>173382637
>Is Pandemic Horde still the best noob-friendly corp these days?

Only if you don't want to give away your API key
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>>173382714
I see

what's the best noob-friendly corp if I am OK with giving out an API key?

I'm not really a noob, but I want to re-join the game and want an easygoing corp. I have a lot more responsibilities than when I started playing this came, and I can't camp wormhole exits for 5+ hours a day anymore.

just want to rat, shoot the shit on comms, and go on an occasional friday night roam
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Contaminate D'lorentz
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>>173383256
Brave Newbies, probably.
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>>173380713
>there's no reason for tracking speed to ever be separate from sig res
Except for the occasions outlined earlier. As it is now, there's not much of a reason to even have angular as an option in overview, when its comparable stat has been hidden. If they added angular*40k/sig as you said, then the gun 'tracking' number would be useful for something other than comparing between guns.
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>Looking for a place to rat in
>Literally all the forsaken hubs in the system are taken by the same multiboxing faggot
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>capacitor implant set
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>pl flying with test
lol
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EVE general has the least amount of autism and ERP fiction. Why is this?
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>>173381238
Yes it's dying. Not because player count, but because it's a fossilized old boy's club with out nearly as much social fluidity as it used to have.
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>>173388115
Too busy going on on how EVE is dying, and capacitor memes.
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>>173388115
The memes will it
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>>173388115
>implying a professional Jita whore would ERP for free
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oneiros
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initiated compact warp scrambler
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Iteron Mark V
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Thukker Small Shield Extender
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>>173393230
Find a KM for your favorite meme item
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60227752/
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>I had no idea.
Eve online in summary.
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>>173394315
>faction shield
>Polarized Rocket Launcher
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>>173393145
What's it like to have no cap?
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>>173394905
Whats funny about that picture is that guy has to be right for that picture to be made
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61385158/
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>travel to the east in a hurricane
>it doesn't become a typhoon
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>Stabber
>It doesn't actually stab things
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>stabber
>it exists
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>stabber
>not enforcer
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>enforcer
>only thing it enforces is the fact that you can't have a good looking minmatar ship that isn't shit
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>Hek
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>vexor redesign looks really like finished
>have to wait until summer to get it
fuck me
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Isn't CCP supposed to have sub deals around fanfest? When? I was gonna buy a year.
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>>173398665
no goy
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Name your favorite ship /dog/

Mine is the Nestor
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>being a refitting alt
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>>173398184
I hate the plates the guns are mounted on

It just doesn't fit
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>>173399885
You're not going to fit guns anyway.
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>>173400201
I bet I will see the plates anyway
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ECM modules mounted visually on the hull when
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>>173400682
They're not high slot modules.

Neuts/Nos, Drone Link Augs, smartbombs, etc. mounted visually when
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Webs, points and scrams should be high slot mods.
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Armor plates should be high slot mods.
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>armor plates don't make your ship plates thicker
>webs, scrams, shields and EWAR don't have projector models
>utility highs don't have models
>drone link augs/drone nav comps/drone damage amps aren't radar spheres like the domi
>hardeners don't have an emitter that visually pours colored energy into your shield
>cap battery isn't a battery on your hull
>jump drives/MJDs don't have a model
>oversized propmods don't make your thrusters bigger
>tracking computers/sensor boosters/exploration analyzers don't add extra radars/spikes to your ship
>lowslot damage mods don't add physical augments to your guns
>guns aren't bigger
>everything that isn't guns (ewar, tackle, reps, transfers, links, anything that looks like space magic) looks like a)space magic b) shit
>fleet fights aren't as advertised in the trailers


It's shit desu
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>>173401351
ur dick doesn't have a model xddd
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If I train large energy turret V for my incursion nightmare, will I be able to use it outside PvE? Or should I quit while I'm ahead and get a machariel?
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>>173401953
Good point. We need dongs in CQ
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>>173402096
Only test uses nightmares so if you want to get cancer...
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>>173402096
Get a mach
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>MTU
>no option to sort by isk/m3
fuck
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>>173402096
Not sure if incursions is still a thing but I remember nightmares being popular
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>>173375483
>Stain
t. T3C Explorer hunter
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>>173403120
They're popular but I don't want to spend a month on energy weapon skills for a BS if incursions are the only place for them.

>>173402423
I assume the same is true for the other laser battleships? Guess I'll train projectile instead then.
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>>173403404
No, nightmare is just bad because both tank and damage use shitloads of cap.
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>what is cap booster
>>
>>173403314
see >>173380415
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>what is prevention being better than cure
>what is not having a problem instead of "but you can do x to fix it"
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>fanfest graphics panel
>literally nothing but recaps
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IMAGINE
IF THEY STOPPED WORKING ON SHIT LIKE VALKYRIE, GUNJACK AND FUCKING SPARC
AND PUT THAT WORK INTO EVE INSTEAD
NOW WOULDN'T THAT BE SWELL
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>most fits use cap booster
>omg no ur wrong stop using it
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>>173380618
God you are an insufferable autist. Nobody cares about a literally-who and how much isk you have on this board.

Nobody can take your money by having your EVE API. They can only see how much you have, end of story.

The only thing that makes sense is your account got hacked, which is unlikely because they'd have drained your characters of all their SP too, or you got hacked which has nothing to do with the API.
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>>173404959
>your account got hacked
I meant you sign up with the same accountname/password on their website or something similar
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>Amarr BTFO
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>>173404597
Fuck that I want DUST and I want to jerk off.
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>>173404597
Those games leech money from consolefags and mobiletards
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Imagine if fleet battles looked like this instead of 40 ships taking up the same area of space as 1 with a white background (bubbles) and multicolored rainbows (cap chains)
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>>173405414
kill yourself
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>>173405414
Imagine if this game didn't have non-hictor bubbles and Jump Freighters didn't exist and you couldn't bridge.
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>>173405468
t.ccp
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FYI, you can forcefully capsuleer the infected populace, then nukem. This way you can kill and save everyone at the same time.
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>>173405559
You have to be ubermensch to survive the process
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>>173405559
The capsuleering process has like a 98% mortality rate you dumbass. Most people's brain can't handle it even after years of preparation. A regular civilian has virtually no chance of making it.

Then again they're 100% dead if there's no cure anyways.
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capital was a mistake
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>>173405749
Worth a shot but good luck borging 8 million people.
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>>173405812
Wouldn't want that plague to somehow persist through the cloning process anyway.

Why risk it just to save a few million people when literally millions die every day onboard capsuleer ships?
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>>173405765
Battleships were a mistake
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>>173405812
It costs 20k ISK according to the good, infected, doctor.
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>>173406803
The good infected doctor wants to infect the rest of the galaxy with the plague.
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>ishtar redesign
>now looks even less distinguishable from a vexor than the old one, even removed the extra thrusters
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Has anyone here, right now, joined FW as a new account sub 5.5M alpha and gotten kills? Are there many other alphas in there eating crayons and shooting each other, or is it wall to wall pros in those fast kiting missile ships?
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>>173379591

Just report it to CCP bruh, file a petition, if something fucky is going on they'll fix it.
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>announce ship redesigns
>don't show shit on stream, instead camera focuses on the guy giving the presentation
B R A V O
R
A
V
O
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Ship explosions should act like small smartbombs, cap ones large smartbombs.
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>honestly everyone uses the machariels because it's impossible to engage a fortizar with literally anything else

Can't use carriers, point defense rapes the fighters

Can't use dreads, they'll just get neuted to death

Can use anything with active hardeners or weapons that require cap because you'll get neuted out regardless
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>these concord ships
>those explosion
noice
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>>173408812
>literally nothing new
noice
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>you'll never suck ccp mimic's dick
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>>173408872
THUICK KIWI DUICK.
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>>173408906
>kiwi
I thought she's from south africa?
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>npc caps
>nothing but more expensive normal caps with an ugly paintjob and 0 skin options
bravo ccp
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>>173408953
She is.
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>>173408872
She has a nice derriere too, check the first day
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>>173408869
still noice tho

but yeah kinda sad that there's nothing new revealed except those blood raider PvE events
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>sapphire sungrazer
>finally, a gallente skin that isn't fucking grey
>it's for navy only
>it's fucking limited issue to fanfest apparently
really nice work ccp proud of you guys
>>
> https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-kyonoke-plague-outbreak-reported-on-board-inquest-center/
Truly groundbreaking storytelling, CCP.

Literally no one saw this coming.
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>>173410104
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>tfw want to run some gallente l5 mission
>every alt i have is for some reason hostile to gallente even though i didn't do FW and always liked gallente
>but they all good to caldari\amarr
Should i just give up and run for caldari (i guess amarr is total shit) or is there a way to level standing fast for many alts?
>>
pirate redesigns when
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>>173410684
Your gallente standings are shit because you are good buddies with the caldari and amarr.

Caldari Navy is probably the worst isk per LP you can get.

You can grind standings for multiple alts if you fleet them up, but it's going to take a while.
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>>173371104
>me joining Oruze
>ever

I tried to stem the reddit-tide, why would I jump into the reddit-ocean with a weight strapped to me.
>>
>>173410104
Actually it was unplanned, some asses filtched the props last night during heist Xenuria. They tried putting them back with an underhand throw of fail.
>>
>>173411561
Yea, they either amarr or caldari...but does amarr even have anything to sell? Caldari at least has BCU and missiles, i dunno.
>>
>>173412301
I have no idea what you're talking about
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>>173412675
Kyonoke was supposed to not be infected, real life thieves roke the event.
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>>173412769
You mean the keepstar wasn't supposed to get infected?

Who says those thieves weren't just actors?
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>>173413086
The fact I was talking with them in Dulles and they roped me into it.
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Would anyone here be kind enough to help out a strong, virile rookie get his first plex?
(Hairy gay man btw)
>>
Newfriend here

Thoughts and feelings of the Harbinger?
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>>173414961
Beams and shout fweem and zot at random.
Mega points if you have the original Flash Gordon playing as you pilot.
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God Mimic is such a milf.
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Did they announce anything new today?
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https://pastebin.com/vgVLvPr0

Wormhole roundtable notes. Tried to jot down everything.
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>>173419804
Virtually the same shit like every year.

Cool idea this, we're looking into it that.

Bottom line, nothing's happening.
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>>173419804
thank you very much, it's appreciated
>>
I am 3 feet away from mittiens at a hot dog stand

What do
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>>173421316
Kill him. It's for the good of New Eden.
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>>173380618
post your wallet API, i'll take a look
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>>173421316
Bite him in the ass.

Make sure a recording exist.
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>>173421316
Don't make eye contact.
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>>173421378
>>173421609
He has an escort fleet of 10 goons
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>>173421952
They're all fat just kite them at 10+ feet
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Lowsec is dead thanks ccp
>>
Goddamn this fanfest has been absolute ass and this day especially has been boring as shit.
>>
>>173422923
I blame retards with bad suggestions at round table
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>fleet gets BTFO by hard counter but we manage to get out with 3/4 of it intact
>FC keeps warping us back in at their preferred range to feed more ships
>doesn't even call targets once we land
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>>173422847
t. Waffle
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>>173424227
Fuck you null fag
>>
>>173422923
Maybe from the stream but I'm enjoying it here.
>>
So whats your plan for galactic domination?
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>>173422847
the guy on reddit said it the best desu
>maybe if you unblued pm and snuff you would have some content. The lack of content n lowsec is due to the players who live there been more risk adverse then goons in WWB
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>>173425073
We aren't even fucking blue to either of those guys

Pm is red and snuff box is neutral you fucking retards

Do you believe everything you read?
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>>173426202
>a little box in game determines whether or not your pilots have the balls to actively engage in fights and generate content

yeah, Japan and South Korea have North Korea set red too, but they're not gonna do jack fucking shit about it either
>>
>>173426472
We fight them regularly, they aren't blue you dumb fucks
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>>173426472
Well fuck you to for setting off that nuke in Huzang.
>>
Kyonoke ends with the nuke it from orbit option. We gonna have some fun.
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>>173426792
no it doesn't

'Hope for all' got the majority.
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>>173426792
How is that going to affect the game?
>>
>>173427021
Jita 44 on suicide watch.
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>>173426792
>>173427004
Where was this?
>>
>>173428279
fanfest roleplay faggotry
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>>173428504
That's fucking gay.
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>>173429561
Yeah CCP needs to get out of EVE
>>
"Gay" sounds exactly like what EVE Online is about.
>>
biggest letdown of a fanfest or what?

what happened to project nova? another failure caused by ccp's incompetence?
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>>173430090
it's being worked on but they don't have anything to show yet, that's about all they said.
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>>173430090
Last year was prerendered photo assets on the generic unreal multiplayer fps package.

LAN only mode a year ago.
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I love how my lights ended up in so many places.
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What's something "cheap" that can tank ~500 dps and dish at least 300?
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>>173435113
Gila
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>>173435113
Jila
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>>173435113
Gila
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>>173435113
What I'd cheap to you?
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>>173435113
Too many things that qualify. What are you going to use it for?
>>
>>173435450
>>173435497
>>173435517
I think it might be time to rebalance the guristas ships.

Or at least bring the other pirate ships that aren't the Mach up to par.
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>>173435113
Cheapest you can get is drake or myrmidon.
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How do I get 1,200,000,000+ for one month of game time? I'm new btw.
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>>173435853
ERP for ISK
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Guys, what's the next "logical" step after VNI ratting? I am making 14mil-15mil ticks, and want to train skills to help me get into a better ship and increase that.

What would you guys suggest I look in to

btw I'm mostly ratting serpentis, if that's relevant.
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>>173435853
Go look for hacking site in wormholes or nullsec.
Or scam or ERP in Jita.
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>>173435950
ERPing is probably only thing what I could do, I have feminine penis and all.
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>>173435660
Its more of your specific question.
Blood Raider are support ships that excel at cap warfare
Sansha are mobile DPS active tank
Gurista are drone with the option of pretty much full fitting fun
Angel are mobile dps, more so than Sansha
Serpentis are DPS and webs to apply even more DPS where is a yo dawg blingdicator meme?

Mordu are kitey DPS tanky tackle god mode.
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>>173435580
Clearing gas site rats when I just want to sit around comfy in my hole and huff gas.
>>173435573
~100-150m
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>>173435930
In relative order of investment:
>max support skills
>try an Ishtar
>try a rattlesnake
>multibox
>carriers
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>>173436130
>ratting in an isktar
It's so good for the cost
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>>173436031
A drake in that case
>>
>>173436130
>>173436389
Thanks for the suggestions

Right now, I have level 4 on most support skills, and 5 on a few.

Is it worth putting in ~1 month of training time to get them all to level 5?
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>>173436031
There's nothing that's going to clear sites in a reasonable amount of time with that price limit.

If you skip Ordinary/Vital/Instrumental and be careful with Vast/Bountiful you can run them in any BC as long as your skills aren't shit. Drake is ideal but take your pick.
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tfw you spend 700 mil on a skin but your computer is a potato and you can't actually see much of a difference
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>>173436536
T2 drones are worth it. Anything else not so much but you're gonna need it *eventually*
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>>173436705
I'd say getting all the gallente cruiser shit maxed is worth it
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>>173437364
Assumed he already had cruisers V. That's a no-brainer.
>>
I'm too scared to go into lowsec.
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>>173438783
Why?
>>
>>173436602
What skin/ship?
>>
>>173437527
I meant all the extra shit like assault cruisers and armor, things that he'll use on other shit like the deimos etc
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>>173439294
Police megathron.
The lights flash even in maximum potato mode.
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>>173439717
how does it feel to be flying a downgraded hyperion
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>>173439491
>suggesting HAC V and full armour skills when asked about how to upgrade VNI ratting
O shit nigga what are you doing
>>
>>173439795
It feels like you haven't read the stats and don't know the difference between them.
>>
>>173439825
Oh yeah not for that, sorry. How do you tank a ratter vni?
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>>173440124
Shield resist stacking. Lets you use lows for damage amps, regens automatically, and doesn't slow you down so you can still speed tank.
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>>173440013
worse in every way except received bomb damage
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>>173440247
Nice. I just skipped straight into an ishtar when I started ratting, and I just did a weird active shield fit that works since it's 100% stable and overreps everything like crazy
>>
hey I am pretty new to this can someone tell me how to make info show up next to the target in space like all the cool people on youtube do it? where is the option for it?
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My friend makes 5bil per month from highsec manufacturing with 3 characters

how is this allowed
>>
Install an overview pack. It's probably easier to just ask in-game in the Help channel, where people can actually link you to it.
>>
Mass, velocity, tracking bonus.
They are used for completely different things.
>>
>>173441102
This was supposed to link to >>173440308
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>>173440849
Clinical autism. I know because i do the same thing.
>>
Xenuria and Steve roruken are great men and I am happy to have met them.

Guard is completely miniscule, yet fast.
How?
>>
>>173441352

>I do the same thing

Maybe you're the friend he's talking about.
>>
>>173440849
>highsec manufracturing
why do you have to specify that it's highsec like anyone manufractures shit outside of jita. you don't hear people say "oh yeah I am a null sec station trader"
>>
>>173441248
>Mass

is this some 2deep4u wormhole shit

>velocity

it's what, 5% faster?

>tracking

the hyperion has an extra midslot, you can fit a +30% tracking computer or +37.5% target painter, or if you're not retarded you can fit a web, which is effectively more than +100% tracking
>>
>>173441536
I know I'm not because I don't have friends.
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>>173441640
I thought we were friends?
>>
>>173441640

Gottem!
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>>173441561
>is this some 2deep4u wormhole shit
Of course it is.
Hyperion has over 100 mass which means it's over 200 with a higgs which means it doesn't fit into a c4-c3 or c4-c4 hole which means you can't roll with it and you can't pretend to roll with it.

>it's what, 5% faster?
That's critical when you need to bail out or get to the hole a few seconds faster.

> the hyperion has an extra midslot, you can fit a +30% tracking computer or +37.5% target painter, or if you're not retarded you can fit a web, which is effectively more than +100% tracking
Prop, scram, grappler, two injectors for the standard triple rep fit. If you want to replace the injector with a web, you either drop a rep or you die to neuts.
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>>173441937
wormhole memes are not relevant or valid

>That's critical when you need to bail out or get to the hole a few seconds faster.

so is having a better tank and a mjd and being much more difficult to tackle due to heavy neut and proper drones

>the standard triple rep fit

>standard
>triple rep

please self destruct, you don't know what you're doing
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>>173442297
>wormhole memes are not relevant or valid
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>>173441937
capri, srsly, just stop man
>>
>>173439095

I get killed all the time. No way to make a profit without getting blown up.
>>
>>173442848
Stop making the same mistakes then.
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>>173442434
it's a worse ship. using it because the numbers ccp pulled out of their ass happened to line up with your wormhole memes is ok, but saying it's better in a fight because it goes 5% faster and has a tracking bonus is retarded
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>wormholes
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>>173443295
Alright anon, go bait gambrini/ember sands/random russians/any non-huge and killable WH corp with a hyperion and see what happens.
Protip: nothing because nobody engages on that kind of bait.

Hyperions are for kspace and heavy combat, megathrons are for rolling, baiting and serve as emergency big shit in dunks because they're a few seconds faster.

If you don't see a clear difference, you're literally a mindless drone.
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>>173443716
yes, worse ships are better for baiting because people know they're bad

if you don't agree with me and the points I've made, you're clearly retarded
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The /v/bros channel has a joint discord now. Join up.

https://discord.gg/fdrzRu3
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>>173443860
If you want to look at nothing but raw numbers, you can see it moves and aligns faster, which is relevant when you're doing an emergency response and someone calls for big shit.

This is not a difficult concept, you get to places faster in a megathron than a hyperion, which makes a difference.
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>>173444087
yeah you can be on the field 1 second earlier with your much lower effectiveness
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>Discord
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>>173444242
Nice try.
You can reliably count on getting at least 3 extra cycles, and that can be enough to kill a tackler and bail someone out, or maybe you get there just before someone makes it into warp.
The "much lower effectiveness" is bullshit, you'll get a bit less damage and a bit less tank, it's fucking nothing.
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>>173444629
your applied damage will be much better in a hype since it has a damage bonus rather than rof, a proper dronebay and a heavy neut, your microjumping will be much better as well since it has a microjumpdrive instead of not having a microjumpdrive. better tank too

megathron is pointless except for your laughable wormhole rolling meme, and getting bombed
>>
>>173444825
The damage and tank differences are minor enough not to matter in average engagements.

Yes, megathron is pointless except for that part where it's not. Why would you even worry about bombs unless you're a faggot blobber?
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>>173445308
I know the bomb thing is minor like the wh rolling thing. I would've mentioned some more important advantages the ship has, but there aren't any, other than looking cool
>>
>Merlin, modules:
>Damage Control I
>Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
>Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
>Small Shield Booster I
>1MN Afterburner I
>Stasis Webifier I
>Medium Shield Extender I
>Light Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
>Light Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
>Light Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S
>Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
>Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
>Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Total cost was about ~1,000,000 or maybe more.

I started couple of days ago and doing now Sisters of Eve missions. Everything has gone really smoothly so far. I'm in the last 2/3 of the arc.

However, what is the next logical step in terms of ships for all around PVE after finishing Sisters of Eve? I have around 20,000,000 now (someone donated me 10 million without any reason).
>>
What frigs do you guys like to PVP in? I've been using wolves and tristans but I'm looking for something different, any suggestions?
>>
>>173445960
vigil fleet issue is goat, it's a little expensive though because minmatar militia are a bunch of cuck faggots
>>
>>173445597
Caracal or a Moa if you don't want to train missile skills.
>>
>>173445597
If you don't have at least 100 dps with that fit I'd suggest upgrading to a destroyer before attempting to finish the SoE arc. The last boss of it has a pretty hefty tank and with beginner skills in a frigate you likely won't have enough dps to break it.
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>>173375785
>They don't do anything if you're beyond 1.5m (I think?) total SP
Pretty sure you can still use any number of that simultaneously if you start below the limit.
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>>173446154
Thanks, I'll check some loadouts for them.
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>>173446257
Yeah, I have bit over 50 dps right now so I was thinking about getting friend to help or maybe upgrade before that. Thanks.

But otherwise this has been really smooth sailing. Ship takes lot of beating etc.
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>>173446603
Getting a Cormorant and slapping 7 guns on it should be enough to chew through Dagan's tank and shouldn't cost more than 2m or so. If you need an extra bit of dps you can put a magnetic field stabilizer or two in your lows.
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>>173447010
Also, is it normal that people give lot of money in the game? Just by chatting to couple of people last night I got two donations to get me started. I didn't ask anything or didn't say anything special (i.e. I didn't ERP).
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>>173448072
Yes. People who have money and think you have potential/aren't a complete retard will throw money at you.
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>>173369629
drone regions are decent, lots of renter systems with no one in them half the time

plus you can cloaky camp them and cause immense butthurt
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>>173448163
>Yes. People who have money and think you have potential/aren't a complete retard will throw money at you.
Cool, in this sense this is bit different than WoW where lot of people are just very retarded by default.
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>>173448839
People are also retarded by default here, which is why capable players will give you money if they think you are above this exceedingly low average.
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>>173449263
I can read and write so I must qualify.
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If you buy a plex from markeedragon's site do they send you a key? I'm trying to RMT stuff from other games but I don't want to get banned.
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>>173451524
i remember seeing an official vendor list right on the eve online site
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>>173448072
>Also, is it normal that people give lot of money in the game?

I'm in a meme alliance, I can confirm that new players that ask cute questions in fleet chat are usually showered with ISK.
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>>173448072
>I didn't ERP

That's where all the ISK is tho.

Shave your legs/butt, buy some cheapo panties or stockings and take a few pics. Sell to thirsty virgins.
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>>173454852
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>page 10
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>warp animations don't look like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpOMc9ysuek
I mean, they even show them in the damn trailers, why have a "ease on the brakes" thing instead?
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>>173457663
How I'm going to see which belt they warped to?
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And Guard is wearing the glasses I gave him, I do beleive I win.
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>>173458182
>You will never Guard
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>>173453754
Delete this.
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>>173458446
We no have mortars, pits glitter, and
>pic
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Does anyone else here look at people who play themepark MMOs and laugh?
>>
>>173459193
>lelele party le club le drink le haha le xddd
kill urself normalfag
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>>173457969
their icons stay on grid for a couple of seconds and you can follow the trail left by the engines
Point is, activating everything and locking enemies then realizing you haven't exited warp yet is stupid and so is an enemy staying on grid for 30 seconds but you can't shoot them because they're technically in warp.
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Is there a rule of thumb for how much ISK each class of wormholes produces with PI?
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>>173459193
I'm jelly
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>>173459426
this is literally my face whenever I spot any of the following on /v/

>mmos are dead
>mmo nostalgia
>wow whining
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>>173459426
I like it when there's a new themepark mmo and they are all mad because it strays from the formula slightly

>it only has x classes and y races
>how many raids does it have lol
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>>173459434
Why not come to Fanfest and endgame me cuck.
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>>173459841
Because I'm not spending money on games like a faggot.
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>>173459970
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>ratting in my carrier
>some autists start entosising our constellation
>whfags are ganking some rorq a few systems away
>keep making Isk
>tfw all the guys that usually bully you until you join fleet went to fanfest
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>>173459426
I don't think playing a game where "content producer" is a phrased used unironically is a superior existence.
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>>173460579
you were the autist all along
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So did they release the redesign art/pictures they failed to show on the stream?
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>>173462027
Megathron is getting its tuning fork filled in.
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>>173462891
please no
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>>173463045
Sorry Baltec.
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>>173462891
I thought it was the sin they're redesigning?
Also pics pls
I think they also mentioned rupture badger and osprey
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>>173459434
>I hate others having fun
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>>173442297
>you don't know what you're doing
>I can totally run a triple rep with one cap booster

even with 3200's you burn through way faster than normal and you can't resist neuts very well to inject-cycle
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>>173459460
C1 and C6 is no different when it comes to PI
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>>173464813
the only reason to fit triple rep is if you're retarded. this goes for all ships
>>
Oh god this fanfest was hilarious

The cringe has finally been embraced

Although what happened with the CCP keynote?
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>>173466996
They quietly scrapped it because there is really nothing exciting to announce.
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>>173466996
not as cringe as your posts
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>>173467376
What?

You dont like

Me typing like this?
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>>173466996
>literally 3 days of recaps
>only time they announce redesigns the camera man decides to focus on the presenter instead
Remember when CCP were more than tenders of a rotting grave?
>>
wait what redesigns, post pictures now

celestis?
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>>173467619
Vexor and suns, its pretty cool.

Watch the graphics keynote, its pretty much the highlight of this fanfest, like its been the last few years.
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>>173467619
Sin, Badger/Tayra, Vexor(already on eve-updates site), Osprey, Rupture
No pictures because they fucked up and the only people that saw the redesigns where the ones at fanfest because the stream cameraman had the camera pointed at the person talking the whole time

We did get to see part of the osprey at a very shitty angle right at the end, it's symmetrical now
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>>173467518
Don't they fix shit like that when they upload to youtube?
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>>173467845
>Sin

do you mean the dominix, or just the sin? why would they spend time redesigning a faggy black ops?

>Vexor

meh

>Osprey, Rupture

good

>it's symmetrical now

unsubbing
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>>173467986
Tech 2 variants are supposed to have model differences.
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>>173467986
t. autism
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>>173467986
>>173467918
>>173467845
>>173467797
>>173467619
>>173467518
>>
Is the OP image this /vg/s corp or what's going on? Or some kind of may-may? I need people to play with.
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>>173468558
I would expect there to be pictures on leddit from someone who was there

>>173468490
t. gay
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>>173468997
I've scoured the internet high and low and found jack as of yet
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>>173468997
Then go there and stay there you internet points cocksucker.
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>>173469274
fuck off faggot or I'll suck your cock
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>>173470663
not if i suck it myself first, faggot
>>
Did they say anything about assault frigs?
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>>173471318
Assault frigs are and always will be the redheaded stepchild ship class of eve.
>>
>>173471318
Yes. It's "on the horizon".
>>
>>173471318
>implying CCP actually cares about changing things in the game
>>
>no way to program drones to shoot x shiptype first
>no way to assign drones to shoot those that shoot them first
shit game tbqh
>>
>>173472858
>I want the game to be even more afk-able.
>>
>but it's okay to stay logged in while cloaked in a deep safe while afk and at work
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>>173473160
>One does nothing but spook carebears
>The other actively makes you isk
Totally the same thing.
>>
>no, you NEED to stay at your monitor to rat because that is the CORRECT way to make isk like I do
>>
>Why doesn't the game just give me isk for free? Waaah
>>
It already does
I just need to run back every 12 minutes or so when the 3rd wave spawns.
>>
are people still butthurt about afk cloaking
>>
>are people still butthurt about something that hasn't changed 1 bit since they started being butthurt
I wouldn't know
>>
are you
>>
is there a /eog/ irc channel?
>>
>>173473327
>lowering ADMs in fozzie sov "does nothing"
>>
>>173474320
someone cloaking in your system does not lower your ADMs
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>>173474387
>2017
>actually thinking this is valid reasoning

didn't realize this was fucking kindergarten
>>
>>173474525
explain
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>>173474579
are you really that much of a fucking retard?
>willfully ignoring psychological warfare
>willfully ignoring mental fatigue
>willfully ignoring the requirement to have people on stand by to defend drops

yeah, the exact technical impact of someone just being in local does not lower ADMs on its own, but you're just choosing to conveniently ignore the mindgame aspect of it, which is exactly the reason why you use it.

at the least don't be a little shitter about it, giggling to yourself because you're 'technically right' within the sole confines of game mechanics
>>
you're just choosing to conveniently dock up like a bitch

so the answer is yes, you are butthurt
>>
drops doesn't matter unless you rat in a super
>>
>implying there is an alternative that doesn't require drastically more resources and time than being cloaked up in a deep safe
>>
>>173474841
m8 the cloakfags will never stop the stupid arguments because lord fozzie agrees with them

they're like CODE

you know it's bullshit, they know it's bullshit, they keep doing it because it's bullshit
>>
>gets called out on his shitty arguments
>hurr you're just a shitter everyone in this game is bad but me
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>>173475069
yeah yeah, i know
it's still fucking annoying
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what if we all banded together to conquer this system? it could be our home!
>>
kill yourself both of you
>>
>empty quoting
>>
I haven't seen this much buttfluster in a long time
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>>173475258
at least he didn't do the

>if afk cloaking is such a problem why not remove local? :^)
>>
Need some help fitting a Tristan for combat sites I scan down in hi-sec.

Using a shield extender and afterburner in mids leaves me with one more mid open.

Dunno what the fuck to put in low slots. Drone damage amps? And dunno about high slots.

All the fits I find are for people with decent fitting skills and I just can't fit the crap that they do.
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>ratters
>good at eve
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>>173475709
drone damage amps are great. you want damage modules on almost all your combat ships
>>
>doesn't have an argument
>post dog images instead
>>
>ratting in frigs
>>
>She doesn't rat in corvettes
What are you, bad?
>>
>is bad at eve
>goes ratting instead
>>
>>173476031
>>173476056
>>173476121
>>173476181
who are you quoting?
>>
>>173476314
(you)
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>rattlesnake, gila, worm
>most prominent features are the super beefed up drones
>only the gilas has a visible drone bay
>the rattlesnake looks like a fucking ECM boat
>>
>>173475975

Do I just stack 3 of them?

What about the remaining free mid slot?
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>>173476952
some kind of shield hardener? invuln would be good if you can run it

and yes, 3 drone damage amps would be great but they probably don't fit
>>
G A R M U R
A
R
M
U
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>>173476952
What kind of rats are you facing? Your damage and tank should be aimed towards a specific faction.
>>
>weapon tiericide announced
>no eta
>I'll probably be using everything at tech II by the time it comes out
noice
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>>173367552
>tfw no more officer mods.
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>>173479198
>Amarr
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>>173479443
Jackdaw's a Caldari missile boat. Think before you dogpost.
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>>173479198
>no more officer mods

what?
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>passive income
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>>173377512

They clearly didn't want any pvp, that's for sure.
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>>173479552
All the officer mods are lasers, and nosferatus dumbo.,
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>>173481147
They're also
>>>>Dark Blood

Not all lasers are amarr, faggot.
>>
>>173395123

I dunno, maybe you should ask 'geddon targets sometime.
>>
>>173399629

Ownership.
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>>173421316

Spill spaghetti while screaming autistically.
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>toon
>>
How do I find my align time in game?
>>
>tfw 90% of this game is just "Warp drive active"
>"Warp drive active"
>"Warp drive active"
>"Warp drive active"
>>
>>173482953
>be Amarr
>remaining 10% is "The capacitor is empty"
>>
>>173482953

Really? Mine is only about 25% warp drive active.
Maybe you should stop just aimlessly warping around?
>>
>>173482953
>>173483009
haha omg so funny xd +5 karma friendo
>>
>>173483159
>+5 karma

This isn't reddit, buddy.
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>>173483159
Upvoted for visibility.
>>
>90% of my game is just station/citadel sounds
>The remaining 10% is probe sounds and docking
>>
>be me
>be in nullsec corp
>actively avoid any pvp because it means getting out of my training clone
heh
>>
then don't behave like that>>173483234
>>
>>173483301
And what are you going to do with all that SP you amass?
>>
>>173483484
get more isk/hr until I'm rich enough to welp battleships on a weekly basis
>>
I should skill into a dread...
>>
>>173483564
>rich enough to welp battleships on a weekly basis
>tfw I'm poor and still can do that with incursions
>>
>>173483301
>training clone
Training clones need to die.
>>
>>173483754
t. fag
>>
>>173483754
Hey, I completely agree. But with the current system that's how it is so I'm basically going to keep amassing SP until I feel comfortable enough to get out of my clone.
>>
>Not dread ratting
>>
>>173484019

Which is never. You should instead make a shit ton of isk, buy injectors and actually play the game.
>>
>>173478762
did they say anything about T2 ammo in this?

either short range meta and faction guns become able to use T2 ammo, or they remain 100% trash

preferably all weapons will benefit from spec skills also
>>
>>173484019
I do the same, freaking sux. If I am to play without the learning implants, I'd need 648k skill points from injectors per month to make up for it, which is 2-5 injectors depending on how advanced the character is. In my case, about one and two thirds.
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>>173485001
If meta guns could use t2 ammo and benefit from spec skills there would be literally no reason to use t2 guns. They have the same base stats as meta 4s.
>>
>>173485001
fuck off
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>>173485017
Sorry, my mistake. Half that. Would need 324k SP per month from injectors.
>>
>>173484019
>>173485017
>>173485254
Who the fuck cares.
>oh my god i'm not gonna be in my guild's top ten monthly xp chart :O
>>
>>173453754
Spoiler that you knave.
>>
>>173485254

If you can't make 5b/month using a high sp character, you are doing things very wrong. Incursion runners make that in a week.
>>
>>173485370
>:O
>>
How can I join /eog/ corp?
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>>173485479
YES THAT'S YOUR FUCKING FACE WHEN YOU GET TRIGGERRED FOR NOT BEING IN OMG TOPSPEC LE XPHOUR HAHA MUH +5 LE MAX CLONE XDD
KILL URSELF IRL
>>
>>173485549
That's an awful lot of upper case characters in a row there, friend.
>>
>>173485539

Make a new dank meme.
>>
>>173485643
I don't get it. I want to play with good and fun people and have banter and conquer shit.
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>>173453754
FC, I'm painted.
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>>173485686

>good
>fun
>eve

You're in the wrong place, buddy.
>>
>>173485817
Okay, I'm not giving up. I want to join your corp.
>>
>>173485889

My corp is me, my alt and some random fuck who hasn't logged in since 2014.
>>
>>173486003
sounds comfy
>>
>>173486061

It is.
>>
Are there any differences between relic/data sites in different faction's space?

If I'm doing hisec exploration, can I just stick to Minmatar or would I be better off going to Gallente or something?
>>
>>173487004

>hisec
>explo
>ever
>>
>>173487062

Not much else I can do as an alpha clone without cloaking devices.
>>
>>173487431
You can 100% explo in Null/WH without a cloak.

Just remember that your ship is worth 1/10 the value of one good site so it matters literally none if you lose it.
>>
>Corporation
>has less than 5 thousand employees
????
>>
>>173487004
Check which pirates you'll find here: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/region

General guidelines:
>Sansha's sites are by far the best, but that means sansha's space is also usually crowded. Doesn't help that catch is a warzone.
>Guristas sites are the worst, but not by a huge margin
>Relic sites are better than data sites, data sites are still worth a couple million
>Drone space doesn't have relic sites but their data sites are as good as pirate relic sites
>>
>>173487431
I partially afforded my first plex with wspace exploration. I wanted to kill myself after a week or two but the money was decent.
>>
>>173485181
>They have the same base stats as meta 4s

after rebalancing them they wouldn't

>>173485220
kys gaylord
>>
ATTENTION if you're in all-ou/oruze you could be playing with a redditor RIGHT NOW.

Look to your left,, look to your right, are either one of those pilots a redditor? It could be more likely than you think!
>>
>>173487703
Even with a standard 40 mil or 80 mil cov-op fit the ship isn't even the part that hurts, its the time it takes to actually get to systems with good sites. Exploring is 80% suffering and 10% dank isk, 10% fear getting back.
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>>173487931
Exploration is the only fun way to make isk in eve! Everything else feels like a job.
>>
>>173488614
>if you're in all-out
Found the redditor
>>
>>173488812
>explore lowsec, popping in and out of J-space until you find a WH with a null connection
>explore null for a bit
>easy route back to highsec because you bookmarked your exits
>>
Now that I've finished stealth bombers, what should I skill into next?
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>>173488817
If you go to reddit just for news you're a redditor too. Anyone that visits reddit under any circumstance is a filthy traitor in my book.
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>>173482630
This is a growing epidemic (for many years now).

Back in my day you'd get awoxed and ridiculed for saying toon.
>>
>>173488813

The losers who aren't isk positive in all their activities should just biomass and go back to wow.
>>
>>173488912
Phoenix.
>>
>>173488927

Even if they opened short url link which lead to reddit, then quickly ctrl-w before reading anything?
>>
>>173488895
idk about you but I've had plenty of experiences where you explor for 3-4 hours and you get like 2 decent sites in all that time.

Then again I hate encountering people while exploring and basically only view it as a source of income. Mutlibox mining is unironically more fun than exploring.
>>
>>173489048
>Literally worst dreadnought
Why?
>>
>>173489145

You didn't hear? It's the best now. Moros is the worst.
>>
>>173489093
You're fine if you clear your browser history and pretend it never happened. Its like when you neighbor touches your dick with his dick.
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>He actually wants to join Oruze
>>
>>173488930
>that hand
>>
>>173489258

If that fucker comes close enough that I can see him, he gets a dose of lead. If I can touch him, he gets his limbs chopped off.
>>
>>173489404
>chopping off another dudes dick

That's pretty fucked up anon.
>>
>>173489228
If the Moros is so bad, how come I still see so many of them in battle reports?
>>
>>173489602
The average EVE player is lazy as fuck both in regards to training their character and moving/buying new shit.

People would rather train to level 3 is some meme skills than get proper level 5 training done and getting properly trained to fly fits that FC's need. Doctrines are like impossible to switch because people are reeeeeeetards.
>>
>>173489484

All the limbs.
>>
>Gallente descriptions mentions they make porn-flicks

Can I go into industry and specialize in porn? Can I be a porn producer?
>>
>>173489602

Also because it's still better to field a dread than a subcap when the target is immobile or a cap, and the pilot in question can only fly a Moros.
>>
>my favorite things are micro jump drives and destroyers
>command destroyers are useless outside of meme fleet comps
It hurts bros
>>
>command destroyers are useless outside of meme fleet comps
Confirmed for not playing the game
>>
>>173490238

I'm still hoping that the chain-mjfg thing would become more commonplace.
>>
>>173490296
I honestly thought they were shit everywhere else. Enlighten me.

I don't small gang pvp. Would if I could find anyone to do it with. Doesn't help that I'm bad at PvP.
>>
What kind of ship do I need to scan down combat sites in hisec and complete them?
>>
>>173490315
It is, play with people that aren't shit

>>173490367
Gila
>>
>>173490367
>highsec
Just use a T1 frig for scanning and something else to run them.
>>
>>173490367
in amarr space use a svipul(maybe a confessor I've never used one), also run the anomalies that spawn while youre scanning for escalations
>>
>pve svipul
>>
>Want to skill into T3Cs
>Getting rebalanced soon
Should I do it or hold off on it?
>>
>>173490434

That's a waste of time.
>>
>>173490913
Don't worry, they're still going to be broken good if the changes CCP announced is all they're oging to do
>>
>>173490349
>I don't small gang pvp.
This is why. Stork is one of my top killers
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>fanfest is over
>they still haven't uploaded the keynote videos
>>
>>173490974
Did CCP say how they were going to change them?
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>>173491056
1-2 weeks

>>173491065
fuck them up
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>>173490873
it can fit a scanner and can run most highsec ded sites, can also instawarp and has huge cargo for refits and loot
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>>173491220
It's shit because it has no range
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>>173491065
4 sub categories instead of 5, three choices for each
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>make ship's gimmick great universality
>remove it
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>waah they nerfed my favourite cancer
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>>173491449
Also heard they'll be able to safely remove rigs for flexibility.
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>i can't solo it in my stabber therefore it's cancer
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>>173490974
When are the changes going live? I doubt its anytime soon.
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>>173491694

Safely? It's perfectly safe to destroy old rigs and replace. Did you mean "rigs are now a module in T3"?
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>>173492498
Yes
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>T3Cs
>not cancer

how retarded can you even be
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>EVE Online is all about ruining other people's hard work and feeling good about it.

What other meme phrases do you hear from people that clearly haven't played EVE that make you cringe?

>The EVE Community is the most ruthless mmo community out there, EVE IS UNFORGIVING!

Except you know, the massive amounts of players that seem to get their jimmies off helping newbros.
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>>173492664
But this is true. Only some meme twitch streamers and shills help newbs.
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>>173492664
>
It's the extremely polarized community
One wants to be helpful and welcome everything new
The other hate other people and especially new players and want them to stop coming
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>>173492718

Fuck the right off. I helped a few get started by first blowing up their failfit ships, then directing them to fitting guides and even let them loot some of the other stuff I killed that day. One of them even joined my corp for a while.
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>>173492767
>don't want larger player base
>in an MMO

how fucking retarded can people be
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>>173492862
mad streamer
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>>173492892

Thing is, eve needs a fucklot more empty space and the static nature of the resources should be changed so that big alliances don't just turtle in one area.
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>>173492921

I've never streamed in my life, and I still help new players from time to time. Their first loss will teach them a lot, and if they can talk to me calmly and rationally after that, they receive good advice and even some financial aid for minor effort on their part.
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>>173492718

>EVE podcasts
>Help channels
>EVE Uni
>Random people you talk to.
>Newbie corps

I've honestly never experienced the whole "eve is ruthless thing". If I got caught and died exploring in null, the person was always helpful in answering questions I had. I haven't experienced any corporate jewing beyond the norm, the nullsec alliance I was in had a 50 mil a month rental fee or something, it was negligible though I don't really remember the exact amount. It was higher for me since I multiboxed, it was like 50 + 10 mil per an alt or something, which was pretty jewish, but nothing beyond any extreme and the people were nice. When I left they shipped all my shit back for free, they shipped my shit down for free too.

The worst players I've dealt with are highsec citadel owners harassing me to refine minerals in their citadel or offering to buy ore at retarded prices. I've had multiple wardecs placed just because I kept mining in "their" systems but I'd just switch to procurers and the wardecs wouldn't do shit because 50+ drone blobs are scary.
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I think tomorrow I'm just going to play EVE. Not do any particular thing in EVE, just log in and fly around in space checking out what people are doing and maybe fucking with them.

I'll fly around in a merlin because the merlin is the BEST SHIP, CUTEST SHIP, ZOOM ZOOM FRIGATE FRIGATE.
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>>173493452
Until you realise almost everything outside of blob pockets and trade hubs is fucking dead and you log out due to sheer boredom
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>go mining
>get more ISK for looting few rats that attacked me than from a full cargo hold of ore

hmm
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>>173492498
'Safe' was in the context of the condition of rig being removed. Right now, you can't remove rigs safely (because they get destroyed).

I know you enjoy it where it is, but you should try removing that stick from your ass.
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>>173493779

You learning yet?
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>>173493894

I can't alt tab and jerk off to traps if I have to fight rats tho.
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>>173493927

You don't fight rats. You warp to 100, drop sentries (wardens), let them do their thing and check back a minute or two later. Also, you can fap just fine with even in the background, just move and rearrange your overview and target icons around a bit.
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>>173493927
fof missiles!
>>
So things to come, Vlood raider engineering complex retouch will see it spawn complete unpiloted supercaps, perfect standing pilots will be able to "test" these.
Graphical redseigns centered on making true PBR, they failed to assign enough materials to the mesh last time and have had to redo the meshes to stay below the vertex count
Honor dueling even is coming, prefit ships, fight for your cause, if they sit in a hangar, -3 standing a day.

Capitals in hisec were tested again. No elaboration on for what why or how, but the expectation was that it would be player caps. Possibly manufacture or some variation on the hand of god doomsday to make it more potent.

Mining is getting a QOL, beams will shut off automatically when full or the asteroid is depleted.

Garmur is losing 5 PG
Tengus are gaining 20 CPU
Orthus is losing a high and gaining a low

Speedtanking Hels are a feature, Minmatar might be retouched to make sure they all speed tank missiles - sounds so stupid it would actually be done in spite of the effort

ECM is in a good place

Bombs getting retouched, gaining a projected spot IE those little overlays in FPSes to keep from fragging yourself, and a chance at range setting - sounds unlikely as they take bombs as ammo, not scripts might make them flat missiles and have them be effected as such instead?

Personal favorite is that Wormholes will be made moonmining available with the refineries, the boolean will be set to off, but the fact it exists is a good step.

New ship class, because of course, discussed as some grid sniper, able to break the current mold and go beyond 250 Km lock and shot.

Possibility of stasis and shield bubbles, both anchored and shipped. Was greeted with immeadiate calls of so broken by devs, followed by, but how and why are we saying that first?

A chaining weapon is underconsideration, something to punish ball blobs and approach FC for making the pictures look stupid. I would say its not serious and more the PR/art department upset
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>>173494243
Rise turns out to have nerve damage on his face from an undiscussed event, probably related to the hair loss and cap wearing.

Seagull turned into a nympho, iceland water is very hard, please send emergency dick reconstruction supplies.

Some faggot was running around looking like a queer parade handing out candy and lights.

Mittens never showed up at the con proper, at least none that anyone saw when I asked.

Falcon is having liver damage.

Fozzy is getting a pot belly.

Guard actually grew, somehow, I think he just got new shoes.

Many more female devs are involved now, explains the game dying.
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>>173493927
>>173494049
Cut out the middleman and masturbate to your ticks
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>>173494391

>Mittens never showed up at the con proper, at least none that anyone saw when I asked.

People saw him at night with a dozen lackeys eating shit out of his ass.
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>>173494679

I don't care about isk/hour, just isk/effort.
>>
So for the first month of "playing", I'm basically logging in every day just to put skills in queue?
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>>173494243
>Mining is getting a QOL, beams will shut off automatically when full or the asteroid is depleted.
Jesus christ I wish this was true
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>>173494976

You can do plenty of things without any skillpoints. They won't make you rich though, but you will learn gameplay mechanics like pre-aligning, positioning and importance of speed tanking.
>>
Is huffing gas in a venture more profitable in WH or null?

Assuming that the local players are hostile, of course.
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>>173494976
Basically, yes.
I really wish they would give new players under a certain pilot age a 500K SP package as a reward for completing the NPE, just directly added to your skill queue. But since CCP HAD to make it an item, it's now worth shit, like what, 50k SP?
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>>173495182
Mini-skill injectors give you 250k SP. But they don't work above 1.5 million SP, so my plan to power-level into a dread in a few days won't work now.
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>>173495149

If you can manage to sneak in and out, I suppose. It's very much not worth the risk though.
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>>173477508
how does eom do kinetic? Solid beams?
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>>173495363

Missiles, you fuckwit.
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>>173495363
FIST BEAMS, FIRE
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>>173495309
They used to. Now they give 80k
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>>173495397
I'm not sure fuckwit was warranted there. Maybe dumbass or similar.
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>>173495363
EoM use hybrid weapons.
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>>173495421
The smurf account I made last week says otherwise.
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>>173495416

Actually, pretty much. Rails fire the whole hybrid shell as is, and it hits like a ton of bricks.
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>>173483301
>>173484019
reminds me of an earlier discussion
dont be a pussy lmao etc
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>>173495465
>dumb RMT fuck can't tell the difference between skill injectors and mini skill injectors
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>>173495149
WH gas huffing sounds like its less of a pain but you'll have to run away every 15 minutes unless you can kill the sleepers. Also less chances of getting nuked by players unless you do it in a wh with a highsec entrance.
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>don't be a pussy lmao
>when the game encourages you to be a pussy
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>>173494391
>>173494243
speak english retard
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>>173495616

Wasn't it possible to speed/sig tank the sleepers in a venture?
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>>173495149
Technically null gas is more isk/m3 on average but there's no market because anybody who huffs it reacts it themselves.

Also you can get the same gas in lowsec.
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>>173494243
>Orthus is losing a high and gaining a low
For what purpose
>keep from fragging yourself
Fucking bullshit. If you want to bomb, git gud.
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>>173495704
I think it might be doable but the battleship sized ones scram and everything smaller neuts. So maybe with some jank-ass oversized AB fit.
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Environment clouds are too small and too thick. They would look much better if they are much, much, much bigger and a lot less thicker, more of a fog than a cloud, like in every eve concept art featuring them ever.
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>>173495805

They should also be optional, because they kill fps.
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>>173495805
>>173495856

These are facts.
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>>173494243
You forgot to mention the new cat girl race and the upcoming EVE anime.
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>>173496079
My Imouto Can't Be An Egger?!
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>>173496703

Ghost in the eggshell. It'll flop so hard they won't try to make any game anime ever again.
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>>173483301
Your corp doesn't have a citadel? You can just make an empty clone, transfer to it before going out to PVP, then jump back once you're done. There's no cooldown if you do it in the same citadel.
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>>173491056
watch the vod on twitch
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>>173497749
yeah but you know>>173468558 and such
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>>173497809
The videos uploaded on YT are gonna be the same as the twitch ones, so bummer.
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>>173497809
I found these on plebbit.

http://imgur.com/a/IubEk
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>4608x3456
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>>173498381
fucking fuck
are they really keeping the rupture a big fat triangle?
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>>173498604
The people who hate new things were too loud about the cormorant/chimera/moa/caracal changes so now they're too afraid to do something new
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>redesign ship
>stats are still shit

>>173498713
Bullshit looks at the haulers. You think ccp listens to autists?
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>>173498381
Only Caldari ships that will need updated models after this are the Heron, Kestrel, Drake, Ferox, Raven, Rokh, Scorpion, Wyvern, Pheonix and Leviathan.

The Merlin is perfectly fine the way it is though
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>>173495856
You can make them in a way that doesnt kil fps tho

Also stop playing on a toaster
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>>173498862
Nah, the merlin and the rest of all the frigs that haven't gotten a rework yet need at least an "incursus treatment"
I look forward to the Kestrel and Leviathan though, jesus those are ugly
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>>173495775
It's bullshit, ccp never discussed making that orthrus change
>>
>yo should we update all the frigates before making an entire fucking art book around them and their innards?
>nah let's release the book then retcon ourselves when we inevitably fix the fucked up models
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So, is there a reason CCP pumps out these models at a rate that would make a moros look like an instawarp ceptor?
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>>173494243
>Garmur is losing 5 PG
>Tengus are gaining 20 CPU
>Orthus is losing a high and gaining a low
When the fuck was this ever discussed? I went to every game play and balance round table and presentation
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>>173499208
>falling for the bait
>>
>Increase all Heavy Missile damage by 5.6%. This would be a general buff to HMLs and more than compensate for the longer reload time on RHMLs leading to a slight buff for them as well.
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>>173499178
Desperation.
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>>173499891
As in, if they finish them all they won't have anything to announce?
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>>173499606

>5.6% more damage
>but you still only apply 40% of your total damage to anything smaller than a battleship
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>>173499606
Sounds like a fine buff, really wish they'd fix the ass application
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>>173500296
That's the joke
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>>173500241

Anything smaller than a battleship will dodge the dps of long range guns as well, you know.
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>>173487845
>Drone space doesn't have relic sites but their data sites are as good as pirate relic sites
They have much more variance. Sometimes you get next to nothing, sometimes you get 300 million in blueprints, overall they're worse than relic sites but still better than regular data sites.
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>>173500572
No it wouldnt

The father you are from the target the less tracking becomes an issue. It's why sneaky Pete's don't have a problem tracking at all

With turrets, I can adjust my speed and direction to increase my damage against a target. With a massive ship its entirely one dimensional. Application doesn't get better in any way with my strategic positioning and I'm force to use application mods to force it to work better
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>>173482836
alt+f
says near the bottom right corner
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>>173487845
gurista the worse?
they were always second best in my mind

blood raider and angel are pretty shit
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>>173474841
>All this crying
>Nullfags still have the gall to say wormholers are more risk averse
Just learn to live with ship loss you carebearing faggot. Everything is ephemeral, including your VNI.
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>he thinks telling one person on a mongolian basket weaving image board will change the fact that people indeed will be less willing to undock when a neut cloaks up in system
God damn people are right proper thick
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Can you Goons stop camping Catch for one hour? I just want to move to BRAVE HQ and I can't afford more frigates, I'll never make it there in a shuttle
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>>173501489
you can remote set your medical station once a year. Just do that then pod yourself
>>
How's BRAVE these days? Last I heard they were on fire with PL on their asses
Things must have changed with them moving down southeast. How's it like in BRAVE today?
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>>173501386
This came up twice at the round tables

Fags whining about cloak camping and their retarded suggestions on how to fix it
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>>173501537
>>173501489

Or you could just go right after downtime. And by that I mean right the fucking same second as the servers come up and you manage to log in, you use the gate.
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>>173501608
You're having a laugh right?

PL moved down south to fight brave/test/co2 and their hug box
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>>173501662
>yeah they discussed this with game devs
>if I call them retards that automatically means their ideas are shit
Really makes you think
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>>173501736
>PL moved down south to fight brave/test/co2
Huh? They're leaving their babby horde all alone at home?
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>>173501754
Their ideas are retarded

Some retard wanted a sov module that disables cloaking in systems with it on. Another wanted cloaks to not work near gates so he could catch blockade runners

Yes they are fucking retarded and so are their ideas
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>>173501810
PL supers are in the north still, they're bullying BRAVE with carriers and t3cs
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>>173501814
No way.
I refuse to believe that after all this discussion on forums and here over all the years they came up with those shitty ideas and didn't have one decent idea that have been brought up already.
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>>173501754
Even the game development don't think they were good ideas at all

Then there's that one faggot who wants to have an argument with the device on why his bad idea is actually good but he doesn't really say anything different and just regurgitates it over again
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>>173501897
There were tons of other ideas from players but there's always at least 2-3 fuckers who get up to the microphone and any to suggest the most stupid shit. It's like an audio book of the eve online forums
>>
Shit, looking at all this discussion, I just came up with the perfect way to destroy an alliance's industrial wing
>fly 10-20 T3C alts into their ratting/mining pocket
>cloak up
>go back to doing whatever on your main
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>>173501984
For example

One guy wanted a public fuel hangar for citadels that you could dump fuel into but not take fuel out of without special roles

This would allow more than just the citadel owner to fuel the citadel
>>
>>173501984
I had the fun idea of NPC kill teams going after certain blingy groups, either too much in one place or just a general, you have killed too many of us prepare to die.

It was met with, but what of the mission runners, followed by fuck the mission runners by a dev.
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>>173501996

Covops will do the same thing.
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>>173502185
Covops can't solo VNIs as easily as tengus though
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>>173502221

They can light a cyno and get the rest of the bomber wing in with a blops drop.
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>>173502271
You can get used to a single cloaky camper
10 though is a different story
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>>173501897
The ratting vs claoking is an eternal discussion and both sides are full of retards so it's best to leave it be.

>>173502052
But this is a good idea. And while we are at it, give even unfitted citadels at least some fuel comsumtion so they can actually turn off if they are abandoned. Grinding empty citadels that nobody uses yet are still perfectly functional for no reason is retarded.

>>173501996
They'll just abandon system and blockade the gates.
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>>173502328
>>173502408
Forgot to add, especially if they're nullified so you can go take down a rattlesnake or something and still get out if a sabre bubbles you, which is usually how a hotdropping fleet is killed
>>
CCP is fucking weird.
>you can make dicks with bubbles fine whatever
>no, we can't give you custom paintjobs because you'll just paint dicks

>you can stalk someone to the ends of the world, destroy everything they ever worked for
>but you can't call them a nigger
>>
>>173502408
>But this is a good idea.
Oh yea that was an example of a good idea

It's just that he had to wait like 20 minutes for the questions to go around while idiots made idiotic suggestions
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>>173501149
Your carebear opinion is irrelevant
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Yeah, suggestions are cool and such but did anyone make the suggestion that CCP should MAYBE SPEED UP THE FUCKING REMODELING PROCESS
I swear, by the time they're finished, the ones that were done first will be outdated again
>>
>my opinion is correct because i said so
>>
Yes they are because the remodels are way too fucking slow
>>
I liked my sov idea, a switchable jump blocker that kept either in or out with a 24 hour cooldown.
Great fun to hold hotdrops via gates, doesn't stop gate use from a next door system.
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>>173502835
But who would use them?
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>>173502716

That's the idea. Keep the art department earning their meager pay.
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>>173502902
Ruseful traps and forgetting that your rat system can't be jumped into by friends.
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>>173501996
hasn't this been done to renters for years already, in a more efficient fashion? I remember wheniaminspace teaching me about putting an afk covops alt in a renter system, then once in a while you have corpmates jump on you to kill a farmer until they pay a fee to make you go away
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>>173501996
>they fit cynos
>kill your fleet with supers when you drop on them

The only alliances this can destroy are the ones not worth destroying.
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If you've got any alts that can cloak move them to U-JJEW, we need to lower ADMs if we want to take that system.
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>feythabolis
lmao no
>>
oneiros
>>
twoiros
>>
Would the act of forced ratting or the Drifters basically hell camp a system be interesting or just, mine veldspar, we need it they said...
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>There's been more super losses than muninn losses so far this month.
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>>173505868
are you part of an alliance?
>>
>redesigning a ship nobody uses
really activates my almonds
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>>173508370
no but I have a Tristan with an entosis module fitted
>>
I still don't understand why Null players haven't just accepted Cloakers. It's not like they can't just eat the losses IF someone actually ganks them.
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>>173508287
hello ~r~e~d~d~i~t~
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>>173508971

Not everyone actually has infinite isk made with a dozen multiboxed Rorquals.
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>>173501489
Just go in via wormholes. Find a chain that goes into a back system and go that way.
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>>173510167
If you can't afford to replace a new ship once in a blue moon while grinding nullsec shit you have some issues.
>>
>>173505152
If you're in cynos range of their supers that's your fault

Bait their supers to drop then fuck them in the ass
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>>173509053
Sup
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>>173510583
t. USTZ/AUTZ player or NEET

You can't make Isk in sovnull if you can only play during EU evenings or on weekends. The moment I undock a VNI some autist in a stratios will try to gank it and there's always meme pvpers entosising our stuff and hunter tengus looking for targets.

I can't AFK rat, I can't carrier rat because I'll get hotdropped or have to dock up after 10 minutes. You can't even mine.

The only Isk I make is from market stuff, null PVE is a meme if you can't play after EUTZ logs off.
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>>173369318
Pandemic Horde. You don't have to talk on comms if you're flying dps and not doing anything specific.

>>173369632
Missing out, dummy.
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>>173513262
Move out of Drone Regions.
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Hello everyone,

I run a public chat channel where I help out new players and run small fleets. If you're looking for a simple helping hand, or just some friendly faces, feel free to drop right in to 'Bamec Pub'

Cheerio.
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>>173514109
kill yourself
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>>173513262
>I can't AFK rat, I can't carrier rat because I'll get hotdropped or have to dock up after 10 minutes. You can't even mine.
Where the fuck do you even live?

I've been carrier ratting for years and had no fucking issues
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>>173514212

What is the problem?
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>>173515804
lurkmoar
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>>173505868
What are ADM's?
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>>173517936
Basically the more you rat or mine in a system you own the longer it takes for someone else to capture it.
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>do project discovery on analyst level 40 character
>most samples are accurate and it's understandable when I get one wrong
>do project discovery on a new alt while going through tutorials
>almost every sample is blatantly incorrect
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>>173513262
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>>173505868
what a nice name for a system
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>twf the new pdiscovery will literally make people autistic
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find me a better max comfy way to make isk as a 2 month old omega
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VNIS GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY ANOMALY

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCKING DSCAN YOUR ANOMALIES BEFORE JUMPING IN
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>>173526083
>be VNI
>always dscan the anoms before jumping
>carriers keep warping into my anom despite I've been there for longer than 10 minutes
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>name of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghxU4zIofS0
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>>173526775
I don't mate, looks like PL dreads being hazed to me.
>>
>me and a few friends want to find a comfy wormhole to live in
>all of them we've looked for so far either have shit tons of POSes or a citadel

fug
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>>173528520
PoSes and Citadels stay up even if in disuse, so they may not be occupied.
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>>173528668
why would someone just abandon a citadel?
>>
>>173528747
because they're retarded cheap
>>
retribution
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>>173528520
Kick them the fuck out.
>>
LF Tank, Healer and 3 DPS for Blood Raider Shipyard. Must have full officer fit. Molok BPC reserved.
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>>173531426
Can I bring my drake?
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Discuss.
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>>173531426
Can I bring my noctis?
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>>173531426
LF?
>>
>>173531426
Solo it you scrub. Eve is not multiplayer game anyway. Go away.
>>
>>173531426
1800dps machariel full gyro officer
inv
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>>173533281
[locator agent intensifies]
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>>173531426
Use this
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Is there any space meth I should take for l4 missions?
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>>173539450
supercharged crash
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>>173539450
No, it'll just cut into your profits
>>
>>173540117
>2-5m for 20% increased tank efficiency
>lasts +45min
Seems okay if he's new or has a shitfit.
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>>173540642
>>2-5m for 20% increased tank efficiency

Useless if your fit is any good, even if new. At best needed sparsely.

You're also forgetting drawbacks.
>>
Its hard to decide on a character pose for avatar. They all look good to me.

How did you reach the decision?
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>>173543363
You can change that for free at any time.
>>
How can any of you carrier/snake rat for more than 3 sites without going insane?
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>implying any of us were ever sane
>>
redpill me on wormhole freeports. are they a trap?
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>>173541514
You're also forgetting drawbacks.

can't you basically ignore drawbacks with proper training?
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>>173546153
They can be, but generally probably aren't. Nothing to gain from them though.

>>173546339
>can't you basically ignore drawbacks with proper training?

Weren't you recommending this to newbies?

Even with max sp, it gives drawbacks to very significant stats that affect application. Bad idea unless you use them for something niche like burner.s
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>>173546439
>Weren't you recommending this to newbies?

Sorry I should have said I was the anon asking the original question. I bought a bunch of meth skillbooks and trained in the skills without actually knowing anything about drugs, but they sounded cool, I was kind of just looking for an excuse to take meth and use my skills.
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>>173545837
I've gone through worse things.
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Redpill me on dreads and why I shouldn't skill into one.

I just want to be an elite shitter that towers over all the newfags.
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>>173547087
better than a marauder at least
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>>173547206
How so?
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>>173547087
You need to be in the alliance that has the biggest dreadbombs, otherwise you'll just get shat on. You're becoming an f1 monkey, reflect on your life.
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>>173546642
They're good for PVP, it's not a bad thing to train. Blue pill makes shield ships really tough.
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>>173547206
marauders don't get danque t1 insurance
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>>173547375
I'm already in a nullblob, so I'm not sure much would change.
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>>173545837
Is carrier ratting worse than blitzing burner missions? I joined a null corp but haven't actually made any Isk there so far. On my high sec alt I can make 100mil/hour if I'm semi AFK half the time and 200+ when I stare at the client instead of shitposting.
>>
>>173547087
>I just want to be an elite shitter that towers over all the newfags.

It's not a matter of ship, it's a matter of how you use it.
>>
>>173546339
the drawbacks on standard boosters are nothing if you've got the expensive drug skills trained (buy my skillbooks goy). the improved and strong drugs have far worse drawbacks for only very minor benefits

I wouldn't use them for missions because missions are a joke
>>
I just want to be a special snowflake in a nullsec blob and not be another dps grunt
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>>173547957
Become an FC.
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FC, are we jumping?
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>>173547928
sorry already bought them t.Goy
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>>173379591
>>173379687
could it help the scammer bruteforce his account?
>>
>>173547957
fly a vigil. you get to be a smug support fag, but you also get on every killmail
>>
What kind of ships healers use in this game?
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>>173547957
Become a scout.
GET ON COMS ANON
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I just got EVE
Which family should I join in Amarr?
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>>173549131
It really doesn't matter.
>>
>runs out of cap internally
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I wasn't aware that I had money.
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>>173550786
>only 1.8 bil
>>
when will I be able to walk around in stations and land on planets
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>>173552092
Never
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i found this tower in a c1 with a bunch of guns on it, but no force field. can I take it for myself or will the guns fire at me?
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>>173552176
good
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>>173552224
Things have to be "online" not "anchored to fire. You might be able to, but it'll take a very long time to do it solo. Also you'll need a lot of dps to break it's peak regen.
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