Etrian Odyssey General

rick the dick

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>>173512776
It's precisely the pose and the proportions granted ny the perspective that I dislike.
Legs and hips are the focus of those portraits but their posed in such a way that rather than strong they look fat, like they could do more damage by falling on you than by kicking you.
Continuing form there, the perspective warps the waist and diminishes the chest to the point that these portraits remind me of roly-poly toys. This is probably not a class that should be defined by round shapes.
The pose of the arms would be alright form other angles but from this one it pushes the fists to the edges of the composition, granting the cestus' weapon and main point the lowest importance, even if the forward fist is enlarged.

As for the design itself I don't really enjoy much EO5's obsession with cramming as many fetishes as possible, although this one doesn't have it as bad as tummy bunny. Moreover, the skimpiness of the top clashes horribly with her armored thighs (why are there armor plates there and only there in the first place?), with a different pose/perspective this problem might have been alleviated.
And finally there's the problem only purple has: her face looks stupid and her hair looks like a dyed mop, not even twintails can save it.

Overall I think monks are way more pleasant even if their base pose is quite boring.

>>173513193
Even before playing EO for the first time, I loved Teach's design with that full body armor and no boob plates, it's so rare to see.
Overall I was pleased to see how the battle bikini trope was avoided with most classes that would reasonably and thematically require some degree of protection.
Then last week they went and gave us a literal battle bikini.

>>173515887
Valid points. I accept this answer.
Also, why would they put battlebikinisamurai on a fucking EMD game of all places. Even if you like the design, you won't even get to properly enjoy it with 3d models that small

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we need to start this thread right with best girl

>>173516271
this reply was meant for >>173516107 in the last thread.

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>>173516271
Maybe it's just a love letter from Himukai after EO5. To tell us that he hasn't given up on flat chests. Otherwise she would have gotten a torso area more fitting with the rest of her clothes.

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>>173516107
Same complaints more or less, but I've grown to like it.

how do i make FM music for battle but standard for the maze?

>>173517673
decrypt the game, change the files, recrypt game
also tell us how to recrypt after you're done

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>Going to get a 2DS next week
>Finally will be able to play the games I've missed for the past 6 years
>Suddenly realized there's a bunch of Etrian Odyssey games for the console
>EOV doesn't even have an official english release
>mfw
Should I pirate them all or are there any that aren't worth playing? I'm talking about EOIV, EOU, EOIIU and EOV. How was EOMD by the way?

>>173518773
play all of them, anon.
Untolds on classic, naturally.
EMD was alright, but it's more of a "mystery dungeon" series than an "Etrian Odyssey" series.

>>173518773
If you want to spent money on these games, you might want to play the demos first.

EMD is kind of shit, but you might enjoy it if you like MD kind of games.

All the 3ds EOs are great.

So guys I pirated EOU2 because I don't like dubs, but everytime I try to update the game crashes. Will I not be able to install the DLC?

>>173518773
just buy them all bro

>>173518773
buy PQ

>[Today's day! : "Etrian Odyssey" series music popular vote due this until the day 4/9 23:59! Top songs is "world tree and Mystery Dungeon 2' first bonus soundtrack CD will be included. The vote here → http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/vote/

bummer, it won't even be in the game

>>173522118
hahaha no

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>>173518773
Demos. Caps at level 10 so it's good taste test. At least considering buying them for her.

Why is this pointless general still up?

>>173524870
Well, it's-
I-
I don't know

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>>173525057
I mean it should be bannable to pointlessly bump a dead general with images alone. There's no real conversation or anything to discuss anymore. And the "discussion" we have are literal copy paste on every fucking general with the same autistic questions just to be answered again. This is pure limbo and should be moved to /v/ for rare discussions.

This doesnt belong in /vg/ anymore.

Torever.

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>>173525495
Who died and made you king of /vg/?
Plenty of pointless generals exist, and this one is still a lot better than the really dead ones. As long as there's interest in the series a thread's gonna be up. EOV news soon(tm) will make things lively again anyway, for a while I guess.

>>173525495
Since the reveal of EMD2, threads last around 2-4 days.
The activity around here is higher than the usual.

>with the same autistic questions just to be answered again.
That's the point of an anonymous imageboard.

Is it considered OP to even use Dark Ether in the first place, even if not used by a Ninja?

>>173526347
It eats up the turn of someone.
If you use a character to just spam Dark Ether you are essentially fighting with four people.
I wouldn't call it OP, there are way worse things in EOIII.

>>173525975
A general is made to stop a inflow of topics on /v/ or when things are too popular that demands its own place to expand and control the topic. Not to keep this thing around for 2 to 4 days of pointless bumps. You can hardly call this a general for that matter. Things these slow belong on /v/ and that should go the same for simlar threads on /vg/.

>>173526867
But being able to spam Front Mortar, 5-ring-sword, Blade Rave, Pincushion every turn is too strong to compensate

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>>173522118
>buy PQ
to put in the trash

>>173527157
Maybe it's time to fuck off from this board if you hate it that much.

>he thinks /v/ is for videogames and not for SJW drama

>>173525495
>kemono friends fag
go away

>>173527167
Setting up Berserker's Vow and Charge costs next to no TP and will end battles so fast you rarely run out anyways.
If you just spam Dark Ether without throwing math at the enemy fights will get longer compared to the cookie cutter strategy.

>>173525975
lets be honest here, the interest for this series is as high as someone watching paint dry. /vg/ was made for a reason and is not the stupid shit that /vg/ vs /v/ spews, is to control popular topics and not drown /v/ with 4 to 10 threads of the same topic. this hardly deserve a general at this point. also funny enough the random threads on /v/ for etrian are more lively (for what it counts) for some reason

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>>173527591
>EOV/EOU3 never ever
>posting girls
>EO won't survive the transition to switch/dual screen shitposting
>rating games/music

/v/ threads are literally the same thing

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>>173527314
>>173527418
>I don't have an argument so let me just be autistic and tell you to fuck off and nitpick something to backup my fuck off to you

Even this is repetitive and not new. Here, have some more Kemono since one of you gets triggered by it. Got to nitpick on something, amirite?

>>173527840
i said get out nerd.

>>173527840
What kind of argument to do need?
Your statement is just retarded.

If you dislike this board, why are even here in the first place?

>>173527831
EOU3 neverever is fact at this point. Hell, im surprised we are still getting a new mystery dungeon about Etrian. Like, that shit actually sold units?

>>173527589
>so fast
>3 turns just to set up berserker vow and charge, then attack
>need healer and bodyguard hoplite to keep the user from dying

not at all

>>173528009
Mystery Dungeon is old and also popular, for whatever reason. Probably because of Pokémon.

>>173528115
But didn't the first EO:MD sold like shit or something? Or it sold like summer buns in nippon land?

>>173528009
>EOU3 neverever is fact at this point.
Nice proof fag.

>tfw someone shits on a general because they think it shouldn't exist
>their opinions bump it to front page where all can see

the irony. the autistic irony.

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>>173528237
>>173528009

>>173528294
Show me the otherwise, faggot.
>>173528381
For some cosmic levels of curiosity. Are you somehow new to this general and how it has always worked?

>>173528481
translate this pls
>inb4 the pleasure of being etcetc.

>>173528651
She says sorry for the 品薄

>>173528651
EO mobile game exclusive to iOS coming soon

>>173528651
Thank you for your inconvenience caused by shortage, we humbly thank you.

I did my best

>>173527840
Not like you have any arguments.

>/vg/ was made for a reason
Who the cares for what reason something was made? It has been used differently for forever.
The internet was made to streamline communications between universities and here you are, shitposting your bait all over the place.
And when was the last time you used your PC to actually compute something?

/eog/ is an always open thread for general EO discussion. If someone has a question they can come here and almost always get an answer.
That alone is worth keeping it open.
It's not like image bumps to survive the night have killed your parents so what is your problem with them?

>>173528651
EMD sold too much please stop buying it

Wildling as main class or Farmer/Wildling, which is better?

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>>173528901
>the same anons pretend to know nothing just to ask question and keep the thread relevant to a degree
>cant be proved otherwise

Is the perfect crime

>>173529083
Hi I'm playing EO3 for the first time and my party is 5 farmers how fucked am I?

>>173529152
You should be fine.

>>173529025
Wildlings have Beast Soul so they're better by default. I don't think the Farmer's superior luck really makes them better Wildlings than actual Wildlings.

>>173529152
It's been done.

>>173529152
I have a question to this question. Are farmer like the one in Farmville? Do they have cows?

>>173529152
That party composition is incredibly broken. You can just safe stroll through the entire dungeon and nothing will stand in your way.

>>173529351
Beast Soul only increases the HP/ATK/DEF of the beast, idk how it matters that much

>>173529420
Just subclass Wildling and get the cow if you want one so bad.

>>173529772
Well if you want your beasts to actually do shit then you really should probably max out Beast Soul at some point. I GUESS if you're just relying on binds and ailments then you can go right ahead and use a Farmer/Wildling but at the same time I don't think that's a really viable strategy.

Why was Wisdom added as a stat again?

>>173530381
What does it affect, again? Healing and MDEF?

>>173529772
Sooner or later you want your Wildling to transition to Tiger or Lion to contribute at least something.
EOIII introduces accumulated resistances but they do not fall off naturally like in the Untolds and nothing like Releasal Spell from EOIV exists to reset them.
So as fights get longer bosses quickly become immune against every bind and ailment.

The exception is something like the Gatekeeper who resummons himself and his parts constantly.
They count as new entities and only keep their HP. Their accumulated resistances reset and since breaking apart and reassampling are hard scripted into certain turns you can keep the Gatekeeper panic locked the entire fight.

But that's sadly the last time Wildlings are really useful. Anything actually dangerous beyond the Gatekeeper takes too long to die and is too resistant to binds and ailments by default.

>>173528481
Teach needs to pee!

>>173530856
fucking oshikko fetishists

>>173530738
Wildling for boss fights isn't that useful anyway, only Cow has a significant chance of actually inflicting an ailment, you're better off using primal drums and roar

>>173530381
Because TEC is a pretty bloated stat.
Throughout the series it has effected:
magical damage
magical defence
healing
hit chance
evade chance
ailment chance (in EOU it's even more important that LUC for that)

In EO2U they took away ailment chance.
It's possible they took away the evasion chance in EOU and this is why they buffed its importantance for ailments and binds.
But since most formulas for the Untolds are still unknown that's just a guess.

They did their best to get rid of all that bloat and by splitting it they put INT in line with STR in that it just affects your outgoing damage.
Healing an magical defence is now handled by WIS.

>>173531669
If you decided to take a Wildling along and don't want to swap it out you can just throw a Lion when you are at it.
With Beast Soul it will likely not die anytime soon and your Wildling can contribute a bit damage and a meat shield.

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>>173518773
>2DS
>pirate them all
>medico

>>173534128
Nothing wrong with a 2DS.
I got mine because it was cheaper than any 3DS - and used the money saved to get EOU.

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>>173518773
>Buy a console
>pirate games nevertheless
wut

>>173535107
2DS is only good if you're a kid likely to break a 3DS or don't have the money for one.

>>173535348
It's not like EO needs 3d capabilities anyway.
I also have a 2ds, because I bought it just to play EO games

>>173535348
Cheap is nice. And with my eyes I don't see 3D anyway.

>>173535479
No game strictly needs 3D capabilities, but it makes things better.
2DS is also a cumbersome piece of shit, although we ocasionally had it worse in the 90's.

>>173535479
Honestly, with how low it goes, it's pretty cost-efficient, especially if you just want a handful of games and don't care about the premium that comes with an N3DS.

>>173523517
Do you have the Ricky's version?

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>>173535919
I made this ages ago, haven't seen it pop up since.
I'm glad someone remembered ;_;

>>173535348
I prefer the button layout on the 2DS.
Even though it was intended for children it's easier to use for big hands since the buttons are not cramped next to the lower screen.
You also have overall more area to actually hold it.

>>173535107
>>173535479
>>173536981
A bit offtopic, but how to fix a scratch on a 2/3ds screen?

>>173537369
I don't think there is any way to fix it.

>>173531909
Now TEC will rather be pointless aside from the generic alchemist-esque class

Just like STR is completely useless
for everyone that isn't a physical damage dealer, the difference is that it's more useful than just for one class

What's the point of Farmer again? I thought they'd have the best ailment rate in the game, but Wildlings only have a bit less LUK and WAY more TEC making their ailment rate much better.

>>173539932
They are cute

>>173539932
Also I was planning on doing a Strange Seeds build with Sharpshooter from an Arbalist, but the bind effect only comes AFTER Sharpshooter goes in effect, making it rather pointless

>>173539932
>What's the point of Farmer again?
Literally Gathering parties, safe exploring, decent ailments.

>>173539120
That's why in EOV there are a lot more INT based damage dealers.
Warlock, Necromancer, Shaman and Herbalist - not surprising the classes of the races that have better INT than STR.

Compare that to EOU where only Alchemist could really use TEC for damage (Hexer and Medic also a tiny bit, I guess) but it got slapped on everything because it was so bloated.

ultimate whip - TEC
ultimate staff - TEC (not surprisingly)
ultimate bow - TEC
second strongest gun - TEC
ultimate Dark Hunter armor - TEC
ultimate Highlander armor - TEC
ultimate Hexer armor - TEC
ultimate Alchemist armor - TEC (again not surprisingly)
ultimate Ronin gloves - TEC
ultimate Archemist gloves - TEC
ultimate Gunner gloves - TEC
ultimate Hexer accessoire - TEC

>>173539120
There are several other skills outside the warlock class that require INT. Not like it would matter much otherwise anyway.
At any rate, being confined to one class would be a failure on Atlus' class design side rather than on the stat itself. They can create many different physical attackers per game, why the hell can't they create several magic users that aren't the same lazy rehash over and over?

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>>173540709

>>173540949
I wanna lick that thigh.

>>173529420
Cows with mad cow disease.

>>173536658
Cute lucifer.

>>173528651
Pleasure of being sold so much there's an actual shortage. Only unimportant westfags hated emd.

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>>173540709
Atlus RPGs are always like that, look at SMT, for example

INT helps everyone since it determines magical defense as well, meanwhile STR is pointless if you're a magical damage dealer. Even though everyone has the basic attack option which is based on STR, it's pointless to use it instead of magic if your STR is low. If you put 20 points in STR and 20 in INT, you might as well just delete your save file since you'll be terribly underpowered compared to someone who put 40 in STR or INT.

It's weird, because most RPGs are based on DnD mechanics, and something that DnD does right is letting every stat benefit every class in some way, so you don't just focus on one stat and leave the rest in the minimum number possible. Then there are games like SMT 4 or Diablo 3 where the stat system is so horrendously designed that I'm worried that whoever made it was some intern who didn't know what they were doing.

>>173535107
Tiny normal 3ds screens is already wrong. Anything but XL is a mistake

>>173541630
>INT helps everyone since it determines magical defense as well
That's TEC, INT no longer does that.

But I agree it's strange that caster normal attacks have to scale with STR. And that they are always melee.
It's not like giving them a staff that can actually fire a weak INT based attack without costing TP would completely break any balance.

>If you put 20 points in STR and 20 in INT, you might as well just delete your save file since you'll be terribly underpowered compared to someone who put 40 in STR or INT.

Even if putting points in stats would still be possible and STR and INT did something for people that don't use them for their damage spreading your points thin would have you create a generealist who is inherintly weaker than a specialist.
And I think that is exactly how it should be in a party based game.
If a party of generalists is as effective as a party of specialists why even have different classes? For more variety in attack animations while everyone can do everything anyways?

Hard splitting STR and INT also means different classes will wear different gear so it creates some variety, gives you more options do design different equipment with different flavors and - since in EOV making equipment uses up materials like in EOIV - prevents bottle necks if there is a good piece of gear that 5/5 people want to wear.

>>173544021
>a staff that can actually fire a weak INT based attack without costing TP would completely break any balance
Actually they kinda did that, EO5 has staffs that give you weak 1 TP INT skills. Although I think there are none such skills with high level gear.

>>173544021
I meant in SMT, but a ton of RPGs also allow that

>>173544780
It depends on the difficulty, really.
In a easy game there is nothing wrong with having anything be useful since it's more about your players just having fun messing around and trying everything out before getting nudged towards the end.
But in a rather hard series like EO this would not only be harder to balance - just look at Gladiator and Arbalist, physical classes with low TEC and AGI and because both stats to so many things both classes have horrible hit rates, are unable to evade and get tagged by every bind/ailment - it would also be kind of futile because specialist > generalist.

>>173541630
DnD is not primarily a game about overcoming difficult challenges. Sure, it is part of the experience but first and foremost DnD is a tool for the DM and the players to tell a story together.
Being lenient with stats so sub-par stat roles translate into different stories instead of dead weight characters is important. And one of the reasons DnD does not translate that well into video games since everyone is just min-maxing there killing of any chance of having a broad and interesting character.

EO on the other hand is all about overcoming challenges and making the correct decisions - both in battle and before when it comes to building your characters.
That's why I think being punished with a weaker character for messing around is completely justified. It's part of the difficulty and the appeal.

What's a good subclass for Prince?

Is there even any point of using Prince aside from Monk/Prince?

>>173547345
I used Farmer in my main file for better Tent usage and a means of reviving people out of battle. And I guess the triple binds once I got that skill up to 10, it's kind of trash until then since the move can fail to activate on top of still only having a chance of inflicting binds.

>>173547345
>prince

>>173547345
Nothing is stopping you from using one if you want to. The game doesn't need that much min maxing unless you're trying to fight the Abyssal God.

Prince class skill gives restores their TP.
As opposed to Buccaneer and Ninja they have massive TP pools and their skills are on the cheaper side so that skill is pretty useless.

Their stat spread is middling in pretty much everything except VIT so you could run P/H as your tank. Lower defences but more TP to spam skills.
Though you lose a lot compared to a H/N.

So no, main Princess is not all that great. Most skills don't even scale with anything so pretty much anyone can sub P for some buff coverage.
Monk is best because Form Qi interacts with Protect Order.

>>173547345
Princess/Buccaneer is a fun combo if you invest in Limit Boost. Also having a gun can help if you plan on using them in the back-row.

>>173547345
You can sub a Princess with Monk as a tanky alternative, but you'd be sacrificing some major healing potential.

>>173548480
As opposed to EO2U in EOIII Princesses don't need to go into the backline.
They have some of the best VIT - only slightly less than Hoplite and more than Gladiator.

>need 5 materials for a quest
>after getting 4 the mob that drops them suddenly becomes the rarest one on the entire floor
>five unnecessary fights later I find two of them again
>neither drops their material
Why, oh why...
Give me a quest boss that reuses another mobs model and is only stronger.
Give me multiple fights in a row for a quest.
Give me even guaranteed ambushes when interacting wiht a quest location.
Anything but the tedium of fetch quests.

Even worse I always feel overleveled after getting unlucky with drops so the next boss feels less rewarding to beat.

>>173516285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l20Pac9YWM

>>173550919
100 feathers
You can only carry 10 same items at the time
And drop rates are shit

>>173551534
What the fuck that guy is still alive?

Anyone mind telling me a fun team or good team comps for EOU2? currently ending second stratum and would like a challenging yet funny comp, BTW this is my second game, EOU was my first one, currently have a beast for tank, highlander and palm in front, troubadour and medic on the back

>>173551706
which game?

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>>173552074

>>173552630
I still don't know

>>173552074
EMD

>>173553769
I don't remember this one quest.

Wasn't it from 7th dragon or something?

>>173554217
I have no idea, but EMD has a 10 item limitation, right?

>>173554390
I don't remember it

The only thing I remember was Ariadne Threads not being buyable on shops.

Horrifying.

>>173554217
yes

>>173554717
Is 7th dragon good? It looks a lot like EO

>>173551534
Do you think most of that laughter is forced or legitimate?

>>173554807
Opinions vary but the very first game is basically a normal RPG with EO mechanics and i like it
Avoid psp ones or vfd like plague

>>173516107
>ists to the edges of the composition, granting the cestus' weapon and main point the lowest importance,
you can see it in batlte, not all EO portraits can say the same

What model is tummy bunny anyway?

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>>173554807
first can be a chore to play but is cute
2020 is cuts down on every aspect but is less of a slog that way
VFD is brainded garbo

They're all much easier than EO

>>173555531
There's only one bunny with a tummy.

eov never
bunnies never
brown elves never
cute potatoes never
nene nenever

>>173554923
He's getting paid like 80 dollars to do the video, so yes, it's forced.

>>173563569
Well I mean most of it is forced but I wonder if he also laughs at the absurdity of the situation as well.

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>>173524227
you put the wrong picture senpai

>>173563516
>Millennium lovers
Do these people exist?

>>173563569
It was $5 for a short message and I think $10 if you wanted him to put an image on the monitor.

More people need to read the EO game manual instead of asking questions.

>>173568193
Just filter the questions you don't like.

Problem solved

How do you walk sideways in dungeon?

>>173568193
>implying anybody here actually plays EO
lol

I've been seeing more and more EO threads in /v/ recently.
Wonder why

Has the EOV artbook not been scanned yet?

>>173570235
5 coming soon

So, how will fatlus screw up EOU3?

>>173573307
You have to sail to the quest area everytime you want to fight a Sea boss

>>173573307

Everyone lives and the Deep Ones and humans co-exist in peace.

If I use Prince's Fire/Shock/Cold arm on, say, a Gladiator, will its skills like Nine Smashes or Arm Breaker will become of the element too?

>>173574198
Of course not.

>>173574224
It's kinda useless then

>>173574642
It really is.
>a buff for normal attacks
c'mon now

>>173575715
>Shogun can attack 8 times with swashbuckling
What now?

>Scylla's embrace keeps one shotting party members on the first turn no matter how much I restart and try to change the skills

EO3 is stupid

https://www.amazon.co.jp/世界樹の迷宮V-コレクターズパック【限定版同梱物】設定資料集-DLCセット-&【先着購入特典】サウンドトラック-ラフスケッチVer-付/dp/B01CG869MG
If I buy and scan this, will you guys make a thread dedicated to Nene?

>>173574642
You pair it with Regal Radiance. Princess/Ninja paired with an Arb can let you shit out big dick elemental damage.

>>173576330
How does that work? I don't get this strat

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>>173576214

Nene is dead.

>>173576526
Regal Radiance scales off the target's stats and weapon. Have one Prince use an elemental buff on your target, and the other one use Regal Radiance on them.

>>173576828
How to guarantee that they will act in a certain order?

>>173577043
You could subclass a ninja or something like that. It would give them something to do.

>>173577043
Regal Radiance has a speed modifier of -3, while the arms skills have a speed modifier of +6. Due to how the speed formula works, the buffer will always outspeed the Regal Radiance user.

>>173578098
Thanks, where do you see the speed modifiers, tho?

>>173578098
I wonder what a different game EO would be if all this information was available to the player.

>>173578246
Online, where people have data mined the games. This stuff isn't told to you at all in the games.

>>173578532
It would be easy.

>>173578654
Is there only that one jap site? I'm surprised nobody has compiled all this datamined stuff and translated it into english

>>173578768
That's pretty much it. But they also got some stuff wrong. I don't know of any other places that has that info.

>>173575841
EOIII has DS "RNG".
If you do the same things between loading a save and starting a fight the RNG will always be the same. It's stupid but its the best they had.
That's also why Scylla exploit works - you make sure to give the right inputs and the Tiger of the Wildling companion will always instant kill her.

>>173570235
>/v/
No one cares about that shithole

>>173570235
Read this thread.
We have a shitty anon saying we don't belong in this board. Might be that.

>>173570235
A mere subset of the 'just-got-a-3DS-feed-me' threads.

>>173552017
Give your beast a Healing Rhythm Grimoire, teach it Lick Wounds and Auto Lick, give your Troubadour a Cure Grimoire and you can basically cut your Medic.
Since both Palm Alchemist and Highlander have middling offenses you could swap in a Gunner for more damage.
You Troubadour should use Warrior Song, any Prelude (element doesn't matter - the element only gets added to normal attack the generic damage buff to everything) and Fantasias.
Buff your damage, debuff the enemy's resistances then blow them up before your lack of control matters.

>>173573307
Pre-determined party with a mediocre story.

>>173573307
By not making it

Berserker Vow only works for 3 turns? Why does the status tab make it look like it works for like 5 or so?

>>173581293
Old classes:
Buccaneer - Chasers get replaced by generic damage skills
Monk - still doesn't have the stats to actually punch people
Zodiac - now with Astrology Mastery instead of independent elemental ones, also the tier 1 Runemaster skills for no reason

new classes:
main girl - we had damage, we had support, now we get tank; Fortress is here
main guy - we had stab damage, we had cut damage, so now we get a medium armor wearing melee character that wields hammers
Since Highlander had delayed burst and Fafnir had readily available burst whenever he had a full Force meter we now get preloaded burst.
It works like an Imperial but without taking increased damage (because main Untold character) and with a hammer that has no reason to overheat.

>>173581801
>Sacrifice some HP to raise physical attack power for three turns.
What makes you think it works for 5?
Also what status tab are you talking about? The one in the main menu? Nothing in there has anything to do with buffs.

>>173582575
I mean when you press X in battle and it shows all the buffs and debuffs you currently have. I'm pretty sure I used Berserker Vow, Charge, Blade Rave and it still said I had 2 turns left in the buff

>>173582832
When buffs in EO talk about duration they usually exclude the turn they are activated in.
So it should be Berserker Vow -> next turn 3 turns duration are left
Charge -> 2 turns left
Blade Rave -> 1 turn left

So my best guesses are you either misread the number, did not use Charge or you had some BV turns left over from doing this sequence of skills once before in the same battle.

>played eo2u story on standard difficulty
>rememeber it being hard
>since then have finished other games on the highest difficulty including postgame
>come back to eo2u story expert this time around
>it's piss easy

Huh, you really do get better at these games...

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>>173555531

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>>173582239
>main girl - we had damage, we had support, now we get tank; Fortress is here
You know, I've always considered fortress to be impossible because it overlaps too heavily with hoplite, but what if they double down on their damage redirection skills and we get a protector+beast situation?

What are all the EOV classes fusions of?
They're all pretty much subclassed of previous classes aren't they?
Like dragoon is gunner/paladin
What is cestus? Monk/gladiator?

>>173587087
5 defensive characters
And double the amount of HP EO2U bosses had
Classic is locked behind story
The full playthrough now takes long enough to last until the next game (inb4 no new games anymore ever)

>>173586426
Is the beast class good this time around?

>>173587674
It has a cute dogboy and his dog, what else do you need

>>173587268
They are new classes but since the things you can do in any given engine are limited there are some overlaps.

Dragoon has nothing to do with Gunner. They use artillery/rifles as their weapons but that's all.
They have no elemental shots, no charged elemental, no binding and no Ricochet.
Most of their defensive skils are close to what Protector, Hoplite had. They also have Gun Mount which allows them to repeat a defensive skill (usually for less TP) and deal some damage.
Their damage option have something like the Dancer's Counter Samba and a few ailment (one of them being Curse...)

Cestus is if anything similar to whip Dark Hunter because they have all binds and one ailment in Combo second name.
Although their infliction chances are lower and Combo second name deals good damage both when an enemy is fully bound and has an ailment and when enemies are not bound at all.
Their other second name is a Highlander/Bushi, Gladiator/Yggdroid monster that doubles and tripples down on sacrificing their own HP to deal damage.
Just because they punch people doesn't mean they work like monk.

>>173587087
They put Sovereign into a game that already had Troubadour and those two are actively fighting for buff slots.
Stacking Beast and Protector is really suboptimal because of how much damage you lose in exchange for more defence than you will ever need.
But at least they don't activel hurt each other.

Both EO2U and EOV have more than one way of mitigating damage and I can see them continuing that trend since it's one of the better changes they recently made.
Having a defensive support is always useful and something most normal parties would like to have. So offering more than a single option is appreciated.
I can see them either putting Fortress in or reworking Yggdroid to give them a way to face-tank.

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>>173588160
I didn't mean having both tanks in the same party but rather that having two tanks in the same game is possible without both of them being the exact same thing in slightly different flavors.
Fortress already has the tools to not be a copy of hoplite, they just need to develop part of the skillset further (and diminish the damage mitigation part).

EO3U should just put masuraos in and remove every single other class
Replace all every other boss with masuraos too, final boss will be a giant masurao quad wielding big masuraos quad wielding normal masuraos

Imperial main girl when

>>173590080
EOIV already has teach

>>173590667
Teach is a slut

>>173588558
I was also no trying to make an argument for having Hoplite and Fortress in a story party or something.
I just wanted to show that they are less redundant than Sovereign and Troubadour - which they already allowed to be in the same game with EO2U.

So I don't think Hoplite being in EOIII makes it impossible for Fortress to be in EO3U.
Also it would be refreshing to not have a tank based on spamming Front/Line Guard and/or the Walls...

>>173590667
EOIV already has best girl Baldur as one of the main characters of the story.

>>173591613
remove baldur

>>173592056
yggdrasil pls

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>>173593641

Who are the true antagonists of etrian odyssey?

Is it the Yggdrasils themselves, like primeval or the eo3 tree?

Is it the failsafes constructed to stop the yggdrasils that go berserk, like MIKE/gungnir or ur-child?

Or is it aliens like the abyssal god?

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>>173594286

>>173594675
It's the adventurers

>>173594675
It is humans for creating the cataclysm in the first place and decimating the planet's population.

>>173594675
Adventurers and scientists

>>173594675
the funny thing is that both mike and ur-child never went berserk in a first place

>>173594675
The Abyssal God according to EOIII's true ending.
Tentacle monster came from space, shat Porcelain Offerings all over the place, people used those to go through another industrialisation but the alien matter fucked up the planet.
The Armoroad Yggdrasil Tree came from space to imprison the Abyssal God and presumably keep it from consuming all of mankind during the apocalypse.
Mankind survived, Earth was still fucked up, tree were built to clean the mess but they only prolonged the demise. And now the condensed sludge needs to be cleansed with swords and mindfire.

>>173595080
That's probably the most stupid story ever

>>173594934
Mike did when you told him you'll fix shit without him.

>>173594934
In the final Gladsheim floor M.I.K.E. does activate Gugnir and you have to race the clock to defeat him before it fires and kills everyone.
Also he it (he?) sent a tank after us so it's personal.

But Ur-Child was just hanging around doing nothing the whole time, yeah.
In EO2 we unleash monsters imprisoned in the 6th stratum on the city and shift the blame to Ur-Child. But in EO2U the poor bastard is just there.

Adventurer, why do you kill the monster?
Because it's there.

>>173595318
>>173595360
It just kept doing the routine he was supposed to do. It's a fucking computer, it doesn't care about lame stuff like "hurr some shitty settlement is gonna get nuked as well, stop". And of course it sets defense systems after someone who tries to interfere.

>>173595515
But it's an AI, it's more complex than that. He pretty much says that the reason why he went on with the plan when a better alternative was presented was because he feared losing his pupose.
It was more of an existential crisis than a programmed subroutine.

>>173595889
Still it was more logical to launch a nuke than allow a ragtag team of shitters to challenge the most powerful assshole in near vicinity with some untested virus and who would probably lose and die a horrible death anyway if some walking salad doesn't save their scrub asses.
Mike did nothing wrong.

>>173596026
Or, you know, he could wait until they failed, give them a chance first. He was going to kill them anyway.

>>173595285
EOIII was a major departure from other titles.

In EO your party was a pretty horrible bunch.
Not only did they genocide an entire species of plant people they also killed an innocent tree.
That is holding up the entire area around Etria.
The game whines about how now that the Labyrinth is cleared there won't be any more adventurers coming so commerce in the town will stop. But that's clearly bullshit because there are tons of ancient artifacts down there so they should attract scholars and shit.
The real danger is that everything collapses and everyone dies because of your party.

In EOII the Overlord is way less innocent but your party is also not that nice.
They murder everyone in their way even though Esbat asks them to maybe not do it and they leave a flying castle a quartes as high as Yggdrasil without any supervision. So it might fall and kill everyone.
And then they go to the 6th Stratum and unleash a horde of monsters against the town.

In EOIII your party are heroes. Everyone treats them like that even the Abyssal King is all chill and thankful when you murder the Gatekeeper instead of protecting it.
And then it ends with "aliens did it".

>>173596208
Etrian Odyssey II: "Heroes" of Lagaard
>And then it ends with "aliens did it"
Foreigners are always to blame!

>>173595515
I always wondered: If MIKE can decide to overrule Ricky's decision and just fire Gungnir anyways why was she even put into stasis?
Was her only job to bring MIKE back online in case his power goes down?
The milenum gurl's entire purpose is to turn it off and on again.

>>173596491
>why was she even put into stasis?
To serve as Highlander's cocksleeve a thousand years after. He should thank those nice scientist guys for such a gift.
>turn it off and on again.
Just a normal IT job.

>>173596491
Etrian Odyssey: The IT department

>>173596491
Because the final decission, the one to push the switch, was supposed to be a human. But in his own way MIKE became human too and disobeyed.

Although I think it might have been implyed that not all Gungnirs got their own Ricky?

>>173594792
>Trump is now an EO villain

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>>173596708
I wish I got my own Ricky

>>173596841
>mass-produced Rickies
Free onaholes for all

Why is a bunker also a library?
Why are you using books anyway when you're supposedly advanced enough to create whole new races?
Who the fuck experiments in their own bunker?
Why everything is covered in would-be blood which doesn't even look like one?
What the fuck we're even harvesting there and what do all those monsters eat?
What fucking asshole shat all those toxins all over the floor and how they're not still dried up?
Who destroyed dolls?
If petrified stuff is supposedly preserved like forever until destroyed why can't we refresh those guys in you know which place?

>>173597398
Because Atlus was lazy so they just repainted the previous stratum.
Minimize reliance on electricity.
The same guys who destroyed the world.
A thousand years of violent creatures crawling, maybe it's blood pacts.
Whatever you can find! Yggdrasil is close, that should account for something.
There's this giant worm sucking toxins from Yggdrasil and...
The culprit... is behind you!
Maybe petrified people can still get old or starve to death inside their petrous encasing.

>>173598031
the thing is that worm is below, and unless the toxins go up (which they don't do because then the entire 1F would be full with them) there's some other asshole doing it

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>>173597398
Don't let logic get in the way of your glorious mission of genociding all non-humans.

>>173599192
>genociding cocksleeves
what for

>>173599259
Replacing their genetic material over generations counts, right?

>>173599540
>implying their genes aren't stronger

I wish i realised that toxin and warp rooms mimic each other earlier.
Or the reason why i never gave a fuck about thunderspawns is because i spam venom throw all around

>>173599192
This is easily the best Anone, and yet it's not translated.

Such is life.

>>173599910
Do you really need translation to jerk on a fucking porn

>>173600140
No, but it helps. Context is a powerful thing.

>>173600275
The context of half of the anones are copypasted. Pick any of the "coaxed into rape" ones and call it a day.

>you'll never force sticks to breed to prevent their race from extinction

>>173596593
Highlander uses spears.
Gugnir is a mythological spear.

Is EOU just about a repressed bookworm that tosses her vibrator for a meat dildo?

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How will the shop work in EMD2?

>you'll never satisfy a potato with your micropenis

>>173601618
It will use weapon icons like 4 does
>>173601638
>implying your penis is big enough even for a potato

>>173596841
All you have to do is become the Highlander.

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What's his name again?

>>173604198
ATLUS USA

>Tune in on April 12 for information on Nintendo Switch and Nintendo 3DS in a new Nintendo Direct presentation focused mainly on ARMS and Splatoon 2

>Primarily focused on two Switch games but also mentions 3DS

IT'S TIME

>>173604198

Connor McDickrick

>>173604198
Aphrodisiac.

>>173604198
主人公

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>>173604575
Was just about to post about that. I'm not getting my hopes up too high though; they've kept us in the dark for almost a year already and with P5 just released I'm doubting they've moved resources around that fast...

>>173604575
Splatoon 2, ARMS and then some Fire Emblem whatever of Valencia on the side.

>>173604650
There can fit only one!

>>173604575
Persona Q 2!

>>173604198
Ricky's Dicky

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>>173605854
I can't wait!

>>173607187
>P2 characters getting ruined like what they did to Akihiko.

pls no

>>173607692
>implying it's possible to ruin anything persona related

Do months even matter or they only exist as flavour text and easier foe timer?

>>173607692
I just want to see chibi Baofu

>>173608823
I never found anything that would only happen in certain months or at certain days so it has to be these two things.
They sometimes mention seasons - like that is so cold in High Lagaard's winter homeless people regularely freeze to death - but you never witness anything in game afaik.

>>173608269
Funny how this is true both for Persona fans and people that hate Persona

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more gays

>>173609919
Fafnir says no

>>173613841
fafnir was killed by olympia so whatever

>>173614214
>most overpowered class in EO2U getting killed by the weakest in EO3
in your dreams.

>>173614214
Fafnir is strong enough to wipe the floor with an Yggdrasil Core all on his own and down even break a sweat.
Olympia can punch holes in labyrinth walls.

He has no chance in hell, precision Deep City engineering is too strong.

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>>173609919
do not gay bunny waifus

>>173617303
Don't worry, they are just good friends.

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>>173617303

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>>173618794
lies

>>173619629
necrophilia is wrong

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>>173619897

Then I don't want to be right.

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>>173620256
necrophile pls

>>173619695
They are not friends? What a mean thing to say.

>>173608823
Flavor and timer.
Interestingly enough, 28*13=364, their calendar is almost better than ours.

>>173609058
Unfortunately that's progress-related. Same with Quona's birthday, the game doesn't care whether it's Emperor or Demiurge, it will happen when you complete the quest.

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How many Atlus games has been localized after Nintendo's Persona?

How many of these games were localized for Nintendo systems?

>>173609919
"Is it okay if I call you onee-sama?!"
"... yes?"
A new party member has been added.

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>>173622218

just apocalypse

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>>173622797
Now go and translate EOV

>>173621901
>Interestingly enough, 28*13=364, their calendar is almost better than ours.
Just make new your 0/0 and in leap years you ad 0/0 II and you finally have a calendar that doesn't completel throw weeks and months out of whack.

All you need for that change is a tiny apocalypse.

>>173624895
cool that's the thing we basically have already

remove lions

>>173624895
Why the fuck do we even have so many months with 31 days but then February is a thing?

>>173626560
Because February is a special snowflake.

>>173626560
because roman emperors hated february

I'm playing EO3 and I'm getting about to meet the abyssal dude on floor 10. Thinking about getting Yggdroid because I want a cool robot. Not really sure what to do with it. Maybe gladiator to use and abuse hp cannon, is that affected by berserker vow and charge? It specified it's non-elemental so maybe it's a magic attack and that doesn't work. Maybe infravision can help with smashes?

Idk, but it's going to ruin my whole stab based party set-up. I need to reset my buccaneer, will they chase on attacks that do multiple hits against a single enemy? And I'm starting to feel like having a dedicated farmer isn't worth it since level 10 strange seeds never does anything. Was going to have him become a farmer/ninja but the ninja's status skills are pretty garbage/weak compared to beast.
Would it be a good idea to just retire my party for the extra stats/skills while they're still low level? If I'm reading this right you start with 7 skill points instead of 3, which is a pretty big advantage.

>>173628515
Yggdroid is a seriously gimped class. Their skills are all over the place and their low TEC and AGI makes them miss extremely often.
And they are capped at 60TP. Only equipment will ever increase that limit, levels will do nothing to it.

Farmer is not worth it no, their stats are just too bad, their skills unreliable at best and the few uses they do have quickly become less relevant as the game goes on because binds and ailments are really weak in EOIII.
Ninja is in the same boat as is Wildling.

Buccaneer Chaser skills are pretty bad. If your group is built around stab damage you get a few uses out of them but if you fight anyone that is resistant to stab you will get into real trouble.
Pincushion is a far better skill although it is really expensive to get.

Retiring has the new character start out at half the level of the old character with a max of level 30.
I don't think it's worth it before level 99 and even then its questionable. Grinding takes a really long time in EOIII.
You could retire your Farmer to pick up a more useful class. Yggdroid is only marginally more useful unfortunately.

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>>173632418

>>173630127
Thanks for the advice, but it kinda sucks to hear. I really love EO3 because it's the only game with unique classes, but I guess they're all kinda shit.

If they only lose half their levels I might go along with it anyway. Leveling takes a while but I can probably get 15 not too painfully. At least for now my Lion is so strong that I can farm those 3-4 ancient fish FOE in the second stratum for like 20k exp a fight just using auto-battle.

Yeah, chasing was going strong for a while because there were a lot of spears available and it made up for the farmer's lack of damage. But it's way too unreliable and usually I do more just attacking normally. Pincushion seems super expensive to use though, is the bonus damage from agility really that good when I can take rapid shot all the way and always attack 3 times even if it's lower potential damage? I probably only have 30 something agility right now anyway.

>>173632827
Rapid Fire hits three times for 105% (of a normal attack) so that's 315%.
Pincushion hits for 1-3 times for (145+3*AGI)%. At level 35 you have 34 AGI (plus any equipment or books used) so thats 247% per hit.
If you are unlucky it will deal less damage sometimes - but as soon as you have 57 AGI by any means even one hit will deal more damage than Rapid Fire. And it can hit up to three times.

>linkin park rapier

Does holy gift fall off when whoever used it dies? I used it in the start of the fight but still got fuckall exp

>>173635440
It only gives 50% more XP iirc so even if it didn't fall of you won't get boosted in a meaningful way.

>>173635835
pretty sure red dragon is supposed to give more than 300k though

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>>173516107
Come think of it, doesn't gladiator share a lot of those points?

>>173636951
Oh wow, they look really similar. Now if cestus just got as good hairstyles..

>>173639952
>>173639961
>6 seconds

>>173640090
?

>>173635140
Oops, I was an idiot. Looking at the skill calculator I thought it was going to add your agility * 3% to the total damage of the skill. That's actually a crazy strong move without any kind of set-up or gimmicks or anything.

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>>173639961
I think leg positioning works better for gladiator. But on the other hand that angle with how big EO3 heads are give off an unsettling feeling.

>>173640148
we both posted with very little time between our posts, unheard of in this general

>>173642469
It mostly happens when the thread dies and multiple people try to revive it.

>>173640174
Pincushion needs a while to get going and the same goes for the Buccaneer class as a whole.
But their AGI and TP management give them some advantages Gladiator and Arbalist are missing.
I like using them but they unfortunately do eat a lot of skill point during the mid game before you get any return.

retiring was a mistake
i sure want to get 13 levels somehow just to go down to 30 or 40 and grind yet fucking again

Masurao's were a mistake.
>Let's take a meme build from EO3 and make it even more memey XD
What the fuck were they thinking?

Two more days for Etria to become great again.

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>>173649375
>i hate fun and bunny waifus
>>173650078
reminder the entire direct will be about arms and splatoon 2 (aka who fucking cares)

>>173650198
>entire

they said 3DS too

which means we're also getting footage of fire emblem echoes

>>173650342
And Ever Oasis.

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>tfw the meme comp of lion, witch and wardrobe
Save me from this hell
I just want to beat 4 foes and 2 bosses so i can be done with 4 entirely

>>173650826
Calm down Ricky

How different are the untolds from the originals?
Would going bacj to play EO1 and 2 still feel like the same game

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>>173652449

Remove ricky

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>>173654206

Remove you.

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Ricky just caused WWIII

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>>173658213
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with waifus and husbandos."
-Albert Einstein

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>They see your map

>>173658213
Would you support an EO anime?

>>173658785
>he uses maps

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>>173659391

>>173659391
It would be a slice of life with lots and lots of stills, with hardly any animation, and strays as far from the charm of EO as possible.
That's what happens to game animes.

>>173659391
>every episode is about a new guild that dies at the end

Why is petrify and instadeath considered different debuffs when used on the enemy they have the same effect?

>>173662758
Some enemies resist one but not the other and they have a different effect on player characters.

Early game>late game>mid game

>>173666089
100% agree

Let's be real. No EO game has been revealed during a Nintendo direct. Right?

Didn't this general used to have links to a bunch of other dungeon crawlers?

>>173667998
There's a first time for everything. But not this.

>>173668346
Autism happened.

>>173668346
It used to be.
But that list was really outdated anyway.

>>173667998
Eh, Nintendo was willing to let Atlus show a Mara in their Switch event but it won't happen.

>>173668529
>>173668460
Maybe we should bring it back to breathe some life into this place while EOV never ever.

>>173668573
No, they deserved death, now we are in our way too.

>>173668573
Yeah, then every thread will get 4 or 5 posts talking about other crawlers like in the old days.

>>173668529

I'm looking for this super old/niche indie dungeon crawler for PC that was on the list. You could host your own servers of it and had to like, pay people to go get your body or find it yourself?

>>173668810
Better than 4 or 5 Ricky posts to keep the thread bumped up.

>>173669140
Silly anon, Ricky is torever.

>>173669046
Sorry anon, I don't remember that one, you might want to check the archives, pretty sure that pastebin is still alive somewhere,

>>173669046
Demise: Rise of the Ku'Tan?
I have no idea if it had anything you said but there was a guy who used to talk about it a lot here.