/arena/ - Arena FPS General

>>173488953
reposting

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GAH FUCKING NYX
NOTHING WORKS

>nail dinosaur lizard thing twice with the railgun for 200 damage
>lives anyway and murders me before I can do a third
got a feeling so complicated

Thoughts on having a group or linking to the existing /v/ Quake and UT groups (although that one hosts JK3 as well)?

Is Quake Fortress considered an arena shooter? How about TFC? What about Gloom and Action Quake 2 and various Half-Life mods with a deathmatch focus like The Specialists?

>>173488923
Quake Champions fucking BLOWS.

Who the fuck coded that piece of shit game to have hit registration be client side?

Want to mow down the enemy team? Lag your connection on purpose and they won't be able to land shit on you!

Fucking hell, don't get me started on abilities and passives.
This is shite.

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>tfw you will never, EVER have snu-snu with Hunter
Why even fucking live? Why?

>>173490823
abilities are fine and not that big of a deal
the clientside hit reg is a huge deal

>>173490163
Quake Fortress and Team Fortress Classic are literally the precursors to Overwatch and the class shooter and hero shooter sub genre at large.

>>173491221
Also the game needs GL, no bonus zoom damage on rail, and LG changed back to QL stats

>>173491352
QF and TFC play nothing like Overwatch

>>173491352
>Quake Fortress and Team Fortress Classic are literally the precursors to Overwatch
Odd, I was thinking they were the precursors to Team Fortress 2.

>>173491427
I was generally talking about the journey from beginning to end. You are correct my dude.

>>173491390
Precursor implies an early stage in a long evolution over time.

QF/TFC is not quite identical to TF2, of which Overwatch evolved from.

>>173491005
the hell is snu snu

>>173491680
What are you trying to say then because QTF is far from being a hero shooter

>>173491390
>and LG changed back to QL stats
it just needs the same knockback as in QL

>>173491808
The evolution of class shooters and hero shooters by proxy. I didn't say QTF is the same as Overwatch but it's joined by the same long thread with various games in between them over the decades.

Why would they remove GL anyway, it's more important than HMG or nail gun

>>173491974
im just hoping its not ready yet because it should be in game rather than multiple kinds of mg or shotguns

>>173492231
they obviously left it out intentionally

>>173491725
Sex with a large, muscular woman

>>173491974

almost certainly not in the game yet.

>>173493451
Any idea when the game comes out proper?

>>173493606
this year

>>173493606
no idea ~ however it wouldnt be wise to drag out the beta too far otherwise people will lose interest.

whom's your favorite character so far ?

>>173496504
The NO KEY character is pretty cool.

any reason why qc feels 90% of the game is client sided? people warping all over and hits seem to be clocked on the clients so laggers with 150 ping feel like they get an advantage - combined with anarki/nyx means you're almost unkillable

should we set up a steam group or a discord so we can group?

oh fuck page 10
quick: do you think qc thrive or end up like every other arena shooter

>>173504179
it'll do quite well based on name alone but if they abandon it or cater to elitefags it'll die like quake live did.

so that means loot crates and cosmetics. sorry, i know it sucks, but that's the state of video games now. the market's just too big to survive on nostalgia/history alone, it's gotta have a pull/hook feature.

>>173504179
also the fact that this was about to drop off the board is pretty damning about the state of /vg/. i'd wager 90% of the threads is just waifu posting, shitposting and guild infighting. awful.

>>173504179
i think it'll depend a lot on how good their team competitive mode is. most people don't want to get shit on hundreds of games in a row just to get good at duel now, i don't see that changing

where /QCG/ ?
i dont want to discuss with unreal fags

>>173504479
Well, nobody's posting leaks. If we had some leak posters people might care. But somehow nobody feels like posting any leaks anywhere, I'm lurking /v/, 8ch/v/ and even quake-related subplebbits because I didn't get a key and I'm a pretty hardcore Quake fan at this point. Nothing anywhere. One guy made some webms on thursday or friday, showing rail quickscopes doing 100 damage, that was the only real info I've gotten out of this whole beta as an outsider so far.

I'm guessing people who got in are busy doing two things: Playing and posting on the locked off beta forums. Maybe some of them are not aware that only people who got a key can access those. Or maybe they all think they alone can save the game by setting the devs straight (delusions).

>>173497284
I'll chalk it up to beta reason maybe, but the few matches I've played had the people at the top of the leadboards with about 3x my ping and playing Anarki and Nyx. All the guns seem to delay when the projectile comes out by half a second and the hits don't even reliably register on the enemy when I watch things I've recorded frame by frame. So if you have a good connection you get punished.

>>173505880
The game runs like shit, the hit registration is bad, the movement feels like bad with ranger.

I might make some webms later but there's a lot of info on the screen that I'll have to mask out.

>>173505880
really, it's just the game doesnt really have many standout features

>fast characters are insane because of speed + ridiculously small hitbox
>ults aren't that big of a deal since tank characters(the ones with most impactful ults) are unplayable atm
>the netcode is atrocious. lagging give you the advantage. there's people skipping all over the place
>zooming in gives some weapons extra damage
>rocket launcher has a delay

those are the only things worth noting. i swear

>>173506620
>the movement feels like bad with ranger

So it's not Quake Live like after all? Or do you think higher framerate would fix it?

>>173506640
I hadn't heard about heavier champions being underpowered. Are you sure about that or could it be that the impression is aided by good players all choosing fast characters (for fun)?

Bad netcode doesn't make me panic yet, that's expected with an unfinished multiplayer game. Lag advantage only worries me slightly because it's typical of console games and I still don't trust the "PC only" marketing quotes by Tim W. Never will trust that fucker again after nuDoom.

The extra zoom damage is like a parody of COD gameplay and needs to go. Zero compromise, as long as that's in I literally won't play the game. And same for rocket launcher delay, not really an excuse for it. Maybe they made rockets server side and it's actually lag? It can't stay that way, whatever is causing it. But I'd be willing to overlook it since it sounds like an honest mistake, not deliberate design fuckup.

Is Visor's movement identical to vq3/vql?

>>173507145
Its slower because of his base speed

>>173491352
Overwatch isn't a class shooter or a hero shooter, it's literally a moba in first person view. Aim doesn't even factor in at top500, the whole game is focused around ability co-ordination like an MMO or league/dota. People who think Overwatch is like TF2 or any other shooter are retarded.

>>173507012
>Are you sure about that
i am sure a spastic with downs syndrome could have 100% LG acc against the heavier characters. so yes. scalebearer is at least usable, sorlag is just "why the fuck is this character even in the game" tier.

it's like the devs forgot about hitboxes completely. the whole stat system is supposed to exist so fast characters are weaker and easier to kill while slower characters with less control are harder to kill. however it's the complete opposite because of the hitboxes, the fast characters are the hardest to kill because they are the size of toothpicks and the heavy characters get sliced up like chocolate cake on a 5 year olds birthday party.

here's some in game footage
https://a.uguu.se/i81e2Adokmks.mp4
it's nothing impressive skill-wise(my lg is bad), but the point is to show a general example of the elements are play.

Scalebearer is better than people give him credit for due to how many long hallways there are on the new maps. Clutch will be played in CTF/objective modes due to lol reinhardt shield.

It's really just lizard waifu that has no reason to exist.

People are undervaluing how much extra health the heavies have. A fresh Scalebearer has more total health than an Anarki that just picked up a mega.

Right now the difference in hitboxes are exaggerated due to poor hitreg. If they can fix that issue the value of heavies will be more apparent.

>>173511195
dope image quality

weirdly I can't right-click dl this though, only watch it in a new tab. can someone tell me how to dl it? it lags when I view it like this for some reason

Ruins of sarnath is the worst beta map

>>173511963
I hate the Blood Covenant redesign but Sarnath is an LG fest

What are you senpaitachi going to play once QC beta shuts down?

>>173513721
QL

>>173511963
>>173512526
so we all agree the burial chamber is the best map

>>173513721
titanfall

>>173505880
i got to play the game for one day on my friends acc who got acces. I made a quick fragmovie out of the "highlights". breaking the NDA here, whatever. https://streamable.com/bzdwk

>>173509719
>Aim doesn't even factor in at top500
it literally does though

>>173505603
faggot

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>Q3, QL, QC = Q3 is now a trilogy.

>>173514284
also to add some information on the gameplay: all graphic settings were set to low, except texture quality was set to high. render scale 100%, 1920x1080, fov was set to the lowers, which is 110 ( slider goes from 110 to 130 iirc). gameplay was very smooth. didnt have a fps counter but it felt like 200+, but the game had some 1-2 second freezes occasionaly. my rig: i7 6700k @4ghz, MSI GTX 1070, 32GB DDR4 2800Mhz. Also, sorry for the video stuttering. I render with Vegas Pro 14.0 and record with shadowplay. Shadowplay uses a vriable framerate which fucks with vegas really bad. makes it look like half the framerate sometimes. If anyone here has got some questions related to the qc beta, i can leak some stuff.

>>173515043
>the game had some 1-2 second freezes
it does that every time the quad spawns, for everyone on the server
what sens/dpi you playing on?

>>173513773
100%

>>173513773
Totally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvlkNDxdCvE

>>173488923
Suggestion for the UT part of the linked pasta:

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Website: https://www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/

>>173515667
This is a cringeworthy and shit writeup but this general isn't going to last. QC is horrible and there's not enough activity to keep this afloat on /vg/. UT4 is kill, QL is QL, and the other little arena shooters have their own niche communities elsewhere. Might as well stick to /vr/ or something.

>>173515907
kys

>>173515201
i was playing on 1600 DPI / 0.12 sens. I'm not a quake player as you may see by my Gamesense/Movement. I'm an active Top 500 Overwatch Player and used a formula i found on reddit to convert my OW sens to QC (1600/2 in OW)

>>173515201
Not just for when the quad spawns, but even just when it's on the map. I specifically remember turning a corner once, the game hitched, and all of a sudden I was staring down a dude with the quad and rightly got fucked

It's some real bullshit

>>173515907
It doesn't matter if Quake Champions sucks, Skyrim and Fallout guys did it, so everyone is gonna be making arena FPS's with more of a twitch approach than most AAA FPS's we've seen lately.

Don't forget, Blizzard invented team based FPS's using the novel idea that video game characters can do things real people can't. That was a total game changer.

>>173515529
What's with the lame ass sounding announcer? The one in the raw gameplay trailer was much better.

>>173516434
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>>173516527
SOURCEEEEEE

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would tribes be allowed here?
not that anyone plays it anymore ;_;

>>173517046
Is the game as sad as your image?

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>>173517443
sierra shut down the devs after it came out and it was propped up by the community with mods for years until sierra released it for free to hype up tribes vengeance which was shit
then hi-rez made a watered down f2p version of the game with no real mod support or extra gamemodes and it was just a watered down CTF

>>173515529
>the infuriating, completely unnecessary voice lines that seem to get triggered by frags and respawning

Thanks for taking one for the team. Won't be up on YT for long though. And I can only DL 360p because I'm on a shit connection.

>>173517931
ascend was supposed to BE GOOD

>>173518170
>>173517931
i liked ascend
too bad hi-rez fucked it up the butt and killed their own game
why all the fast games gotta die mang, i'm tired of playing cs:slow all the time

>>173518153

Good thing is that you can disable them. It also gets rid of the announcer tho. Hopefully they give separate audio sliders for the two.

>>173518283
Yep, I actually switched to fighting games a couple years back to get that fast paced gameplay fix, but i've been playing QC and even though it has a lot of flaws I'll support it all the way so the genre can be populated again

>>173518391
you need VA (or any other recognizable audio cue) when anarki does his heal action or you won't know around corners when an opponent anarki heals himself. you don't need any of the spawn or frag VA, they're just categorically out of place as they don't transport valuable information.

same for the announcer, some information is crucial like quad coming up, other lines are completely useless like "triple kill".

I want both activated, just trimmed of the fat. How can a "game designer" think it's a good idea to mix information with random noise like this?

>>173519472
curious to know how many devs that worked on Q3A still work at id

Is there any quick way to unlock weapon skins?
I'm breaking down the cosmetics I unlock but its been how many days and I'm still not even fuckin close.

>>173518804
>it has a lot of flaws I'll support it all the way so the genre can be populated again
not this way. let shit games die, much like assend

>>173519729
who cares you will lose them anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtvpVulS2AY

>>173519681
>Tim Willits

That's it. And he doesn't "make games" anymore, he does business stuff, he manages.

>>173520240
well i know that marty guy did contract work since quake 2 and the other engine guy worked on quake 3

>>173515529
>>173520197

Thanks anons.

>>173520330
You're right, I forgot about Marty. Is he a programmer? I mean, they all are, but does work in that capacity? Seemed like he was more of a manager as well, plus he's on the Doom team and I'm sure they're busy making Doom 2 singleplayer now, not QC.

This game isn't even made by id alone, it's made with Saber doing unknown amounts. Has to be significant, otherwise noone would officially acknowledge. Tons of outsourcing deals go completely unreported these days.

>>173520197
it triggers me when people fight next to items and don't grab them

>>173520560
slavs are probably the biggest quake fans so it could be good or bad

>>173520560
nuDoom 2 could just be in preproduction and a good portion of id might be working on QC but i have a feeling the slavs are doing most of the work

>>173520605
it's very obvious in general when someone is not "a quake player" yet. spawning and moving towards enemies/combat -> all it takes to identify a noob. it's easy to forget just how much of quake meta is completely alien to the average fps player. in all other games at spawn is the strongest you ever get so it's ideal to jump into combat as fast as possible. you have full health and ammo, all you can improve at that point is to seek a favorable position. although that's already one step up over regular FPS zombie behaviour which is just run where the enemies are and start shooting when you see them.

>>173521224
slavs must be doing important engine work, technical graphics, optimization etc. while id really only holds on to artistic and other design decisions, I think. i would imagine the QC team at id has more members doing business spreadsheets than anything to do with game development.

>>173500525
im in the quake kitchen discord

>>173500525
there's a quake group for /v/ already and one for UT99

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I just bought the Q2 Railgun and if anyone was curious the classic skins also alter the sound effects of the gun.

>>173523628
>also alter the sound effects of the gun
Oh, that's neat.

>>173505880

The latency issue comes with everyone being put into a worldwide server.

There are some general bugs, lightning gun beams become invisible when you're being fired upon, the game will sometimes stutter for a second. For example, if anyone picks up the quad the first time in a match then your game will often stutter.

Just sitting on the menu maxes out my 4670k / 4.0GHz and my gtx970 stays on 90%, reckon they need to optimize a lot of stuff.

The fat characters seem weak. Nyx has something like max 75hp / 50armour compared to a fat characters having 150/100, but the fatties are so much easier to land shots on. That said, when people get really good at aiming, then a 75hp character is going to die quick.

Game is really fun despite being stuck with forced 10-man deathmatch-only for now.

Toxikk is shit. Shit!

>>173515529
>Guy calls himself "RailgunExpert"
>Completely fails to kill you with the railgun everytime you encounter each other
heh

>>173519729

Only quick-ish way is to spend your funbux on backpacks and hope you get enough armour parts to breakdown. You shouldn't waste cash on renting champs anyway, you should easily get 3 for free within a couple day.

>>173524157
Provide reasons why.

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slash is

C U T E!!!

Are they gonna fix the horrible performance in QC for next beta or do I stick to QL?

wew. was just about to quit QC because frustrated going sub 1.0 K.D. every game but decided to que another deathmatch and got 1st place! :-D
Anarki ftw!

>>173523628
>>173523696
>>>1632870

>>173526294
Whoops

>>>/wsg/1632870

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I honestly don't understand why they gave the heavier characters the hitboxes and movement of pic related.
The only good heavy character is Sorlag because she can actually fucking move around to avoid damage, and strafe jump for speed.

I also find it funny they gave visor "strafe jumping" when he's slow as shit and has garbage air control. Completely redundant.

>>173525453
Boring weapons

>>173526407
That's funny since someone else said the opposite, that Sorlag is the only heavy champion that's completely useless.

>>173526376
>>173526294
That's quite a stretch from Q2 railgun.

>>173526860
It's really the Quake Wars Railgun model with the Q3 sound effect.

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>>173527034
>mislabeling QW for Q2

>>173526614
her ultimate is useless, but I don't think the devs understand just how fucking strong speed and air control are in this game. It doesn't matter if you give the heavy characters +75 more hp than anarki, the speed he gets allows him to dodge damage. Same thing with nyx and slasher, not to mention the tiny hitboxes and laggy hitreg.

Meanwhile, you cannot dodge a good Lg user as clutch. It's just not possible, you move so slowly. Either they need to increase the air control and speed of all the heavy characters (best option), increase their health (bad option) or completely redo their passives. Clutch passively gets more movespeed if you hold nothing but w, but that's useless in a game with quake.

>>173526519
I'll give you that, the weapon variety is really cookie cutter.

>>173526376

your name is visible at the bottom, might want to delete that

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>>173527106
QW RG is just an updated Q2 model anyway.

>>173527307
This one at least retains the iconic red PCB thingy on top and more bulky tubes, the QC one has none of that.

>>173527291
Didn't even notice that, thanks.

>>>/wsg/1632887

>>173527530
The QC version has both of those things. The top part isn't glowing, though, which is a problem but it's still there. Also all the tubes are present, for view of the big side one see >>173523628

If I set up versions of quake 2 and quake 3 with various mods after QC goes out of beta would you guys be down for doing events?

>>173528282
I mean after the beta ends.

>>173527543
my dick

reupload
https://youtu.be/DdY_nl60uLI

>>173529260
>anarki: me and slash are still totally bffs
>bffs
>he's not tapping that
>he's platonic friends with a drug slut

A N A R C U C K
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>>173530023
Slash is getting SCALED

>>173530023
I expect Anarki to have
>I'd totally crash her if you know what I mean X^^^^)
once Crash gets in the game.

O V E R
V
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QUESTION TO BETAFAGS:

"PLASMA" CLIMB WITH NAILGUN, possible or not?

What a stupid time to end the beta.

>>173530726
I never tried plasma jumping with nailgun but i don't think so

rip beta ;_;

>>173530969
fucking this, like it's eu prime time and middle of the day for americucks :/

>>173528282
pls respond
quake live and quakeworld as well

What the fuck do I do now that the beta is over.

I never bought QL as I never received credit for playing prior to the transfer to Steam and don't really want to pay for it.

>>173531879
if you set something up in ql i'll play

>>173531879
What region though?

>>173531901
quakeworld is free with nquake and the steam transfer was good in the long run so you don't have to pay a subscription to actually have options

>>173532226
US west
I doubt high ping will be too much of an issue this isn't duel and most people (like me) aren't actually that good at Quake.

>>173531901
here's a list of the current quake 3 servers: https://www.quakeservers.net/quake3/servers/so=8/
you can play most of them for free with a pirated copy last i checked

visor and galena are must have on any team

>>173528282
>>173528490
>>173531879
>>173532450
you gonna set something up mate?

>>173532987
Didn't have any Visors on my team the whole weekend. Is the wall-hack for everyone?

>>173533787
no but having him on your voice chat calling spots is very powerful

>>173533787

It's personal only, it doesn't last very long either. Maybe 3~ seconds?

>>173533875
most of my teammates didn't even know how to strafe jump, you had people calling out positions?

>>173533592
I might. I don't have too much experience hosting dedicated servers for Quake but I did host a lot for Half-Life. Worst case scenario there's plenty of empty quakeworld servers nobody plays on.

>>173527141
>her ult is useless
>the equivalent of nade spam is useless in a game with no nades

>>173533979
lots of "pro" teams were testing shit out
we were just getting high on discord

>>173534684
Being able to spit that shit at people a floor above you is useful. Don't know about that nade spam analogy though...

Is it weird to find Quakeworld style movement way easier to get a hang of than Q3A style?

>>173516331
jesus christ, QC isn't made by "skyrim and fallout guys."

Bethesda Softworks(publisher) != Bethesda Game Studios(game development studio)

Bethesda Softworks is publisher, id Software is game development

Overwatch is just a tf2 clone developed out of the remains of a cancelled blizzard MMO. Overwatch didn't invent anything.

Just stop talking

>>173535797
its all personal preference m8 thats why i like the different chars something for everyone ya know

>>173535797
I think so as well despite what some quaketards say about QW/CPMA being the only game with muh real skill. It's just easier to gain and keep speed since you have air control. Insta switch makes things easier as well.

>>173514902
>counting UT2K has two games

Haven't played QuakeWorld in aeons.
Just installed that EZQuake thing.
I already spend a long time setting up classic graphics and downloading a fucking classic ranger skin, which still looks like shit somehow.
Is there any way to just straight up make this shit look vanilla?
Like, can I get rid of the fucking abhorrent "pro" HUD too?

>>173536882
If you play online you will have a huge disadvantage because everyone plays with fullbright skins on. There should be mods for the HUD and you can turn off texture filtering with "texturemode gl_nearest_mipmap_linear" or something along those lines.

>>173515529
that's not how you strafe jump with anarki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6jm9iGW2Co

you weave like you're swimming

>>173467929
>>173537894

>>173538032
I'm just saying, you don't do quake 3 strafe jumping with anarki. It builds speed but he constantly ran into walls despite having cpma air control

>>173536882
Get the original ISO to the game here:
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=12917&modal=1

Then download this patch (1.06):
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=3310&modal=1

Not sure about this patch (1.08):
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=3311&modal=1

Download QuakeWorld Client patch (not sure if you will need in the end):
http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/get.php?fileid=3313&modal=1

Then finally download TyrQuake,most vanilla port out there, doesn't mess with anything.
http://disenchant.net/files/engine/snapshot/tyrquake-0.61-1222-gb46aa1d-win32.zip

I'm not sure about QuakeWorld and 1.08 patches because TyrQuake works without them quite fine.

So do I have to get invited to the beta on the 13th or something or what

>>173538803
if you've already been invited you're in for all of them

>>173536853
In my case it's probably from playing tons of hours of GoldSrc and Source games, so not having air control feels clunky and slow in comparison.

>>173536882
I'm uzing ezquake and IIRC all I did was replace the included pak files in the \id1 folder with the original PAK0 and PAK1 from original Quake. Works just fine, and the only new bit on the HUD is the weapons on the right which is fine.

>>173538945
Cool

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>>173539019
Well Quake 3 is pretty fast it's more that strafe jumping is harder with the look angles and stuff.
>tfw too stupid for bridge to rail

I hope you lads practise your backwards strafing and shooting for ultimate momentum. Every second should be spent to gain speed. Losing it is shameful.

there's really no point in learning how to efficiently strafe jump since you're speed capped. Might as be more maneuverable instead of trying to get faster.
For newer players out there, just turn your mouse slowly as you hit A or D. You'll get a feeling of going faster and learn how much to move your mouse.

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>>173540820
>>173540982
lol

>>173540982
the cap is at least twice a character's normal run speed

What's the best way to dodge rockets?

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Trying to play the newest forever in development Unreal Tournament. It seems that it is just throttling a single core to death and making me barely able to play it. Anyone know a fix for it? Most of what I gathered is people posting really shit Pentium processors and crying they can't run it well.

>>173543120
anticipate when your opponent fires and move sideways

>>173543120
https://youtu.be/0Ysq8hjhzv8?list=PLgbx1wWCtM2DYy26yCLbtY6A0XRiSEM3u&t=607
games different but the principle still applies

>>173543210
I got hardcore stuttering in UT whenevet someone fired the redeemer. It was way worse than QC for me despite being in development for longer which tells me Epic doesn't give a fuck about it. They should have just made the game paid for and released a finished product. The whole selling point of UT was more content than Quake anyways.

>>173543120
>>173543241
Don't just move sideways, always also move forward or back. If you want to leave the fight any way I'd suggest backwards. If you're also working with rockets and you think you can outtank the opponent then close the gap with a little bit of sideways movement and hope you don't get hit directly.

In any case, always anticipate when your opponent will shoot. Do not try to do "random" things preemptively like the wiggling that can work against hitscan weapons. With rockets it's about timing, not randomness.

>>173543241
>>173543361
>>173543696
Thanks senpaitachi I always take direct rockets to the face online.

>>173540982
getting to the cap ASAP could be useful
if only visor didnt feel shit

Did anyone here ever play Deathmatch Classic for Half-Life?

>>173536882
Was it EZquake or nquake?

>>173540982
>>173542808
The speed cap should be removed anyways quake takes place in tight maps and you can't maintain high speeds forever unlike tribes

>>173527106
He meant Enemy territory quake wars not quake world, but actually the rail from etqw is the same as q2 rail

>>173551452
Does it bother anyone else that it doesn't have the lowering cooldown animation like Q2? I always thought that shit looked cool.

>>173525683
I heard the next beta is next weekend so I doubt it unless they gave us an old build.

>>173554229
next beta starts thursday, keep in mind they probably aren't going to release until q4 2017 or some time in 2018 so they have the time to take it slow and make minimal changes

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>>173516331
>Quake Champions made by the developers who worked on Skyrim and Fallout
I thought Quake players were supposed to be intelligent?

>>173554678
I'm pretty sure he was memeing.

>>173538707
Not him but I came back from trying EZQuake and it is such a goddamn shitty source port jesus christ.

>>173549309
this game was awesome! played countless hours, even had my clan -zN!

>>173554848
It's not meant to be a purist sourceport.

beta leakers

thanks guys. I understand the NDA and how bad publicity on quality of a beta can kill a game but curiosity was killing me

actually looks better than I expected. hoping I get in on another round

>>173549309
Yes and the last time I checked recently there's like no one playing it. I'm a Goldsource guy more than id Tech and would play it over Quakeworld although hoggign the rocket launcher was a lot of fun.

When quake 3 was going to come out, they had light, medium, and heavy characters. They had different movespeeds and health amounts, respectively.
However, people wanted flat stats for all of them, so every character got the light movement speed.

I played a couple hours of quake live today after doing nothing but champions this weekend, and all I can say is that the movement in champions feels like you're drunk. Also the hitreg is good in quakelive, hit a lot more rails and shotgun blasts

>>173555570
We have to play AQ2 sometime then whine about counter strike while playing it. AHL and TS as well but its easier to get people to pirate Q2 and play mods for it than Half-Life.

>>173555664
QL is great and I don't see it getting replaced any time soon.

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they need to fix the rockets. the plume of smoke that comes out is extremely necessary to get an understanding of what angle the rocket is coming at, where it was fired at, and how long ago.
Additionally, there are many graphics that you can't disable. You can't disable anti-aliasing and ambient lighting. You can put them on low, just not disable them. The area around you lights up when you fire the super nail gun

>>173555807
>AQ2
OH MAN THOSE MEMORIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIlfE26jqy8

>>173556562
they need to fix the rocket delay

>>173557310
wtf no music? fixed
https://a.doko.moe/stgdsw.mkv

>>173557310
that stoner HUD lmao

>>173557310
>>173555807
AHL has the craziest secrets in any mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKmgxwwXUVA

>got QL
>elo is 800
>do worst every round
fuck im bad

ut99 > quake champions

>>173562786
give yourself some time, mate

>>173563065
this
and watching people play duels just to learn their basic mannerisms is a good idea

>>173563065
I definitely will, this game is too fun to stop. Especially when I do good out of nowhere and hit 3 rails in a row and a rocket and get a few kills before dying.

>>173563865
You playing on a server right now?

Come join HOLYSH1T FAST FRAGS in QL men

>>173564604
I got off, I was in that OSO clan area server. What gamemodes do you guys recommend for newer players to get better?

>>173567501
FFA

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bump for QL

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>tfw to intelligent to play sober

what DPI and sens do you guys play at?

>>173570437
holy shit me too haha yeah haha

>>173571136
quake champions? 0.4 sens @ 400 dpi

>>173571852
meant QL

>>173571893
2.2

>>173571978
how do you play at such a low sensitivity and DPI? do you have a huge mousepad?

>>173572016
xtrac ripper xl

>>173572080
so what do i do if my 8 inch mousepad barely fits on my desk

>>173572156
get a bigger desk u lazy nigger

>>173572230
I can't my second monitor takes up half the desk because it's a CRT

>>173572269
im using benq xl2540

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>>173572396
why does it have blinders on it

>>173572492
optional i dont use them

>>173572584
are you using some kind of meme gayming keyboard as well?

>>173572635
i bought some cherry browns for 50bux a few months ago they feel good

Do you guys use fullbright skins and r_picmip cranked up or no?

about to fork out for a QcK mass because my mousepad is tiny and moves around a lot
am i falling for the memes or is it worth it?

Post ur QL glickos fgts

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rly enjoyed my last few nights with regulars on ql FFA

>>173578083
How do I get gud at positioning? Was there just not a lot of people on that server? Whenever I try to play even somewhat defensively I get shot in the back.

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>>173578392
its FFA you're basically playing cod but sometimes you get 1v1 duels that are decided in seconds so there's a lot of QUAKE in FFA but you still get shot by 3 people all at once.
Id like to think there's this honorcall that when you see 5 people shooting at each other and theres sum lil nigga sniping at em you take action and snipe him. multiple times i c 4 or 6 different players all firing at a unique target from behind tryna up their KDR. its fast paced, even tho you might not b able to get a single frag on the top scoring autistpekka you still got chances against those of similar skill. Sound tells you when someone spawns behind you, youd probably also get to know spawns after a while and when there's 12+ people on the server some of em even start prefiring spawnlocations for that ez 100 dmg mark before going back to confirm their well deserved kill.
had some mad fun cant wait to actually try out this new quake champions thing if it ever becomes available

>>173579098
Do you play on USA servers?

>>173579979
no why does that matter

>>173580086
I feel like that unwritten rule doesn't apply to US servers

>>173580154
just respawn bro

QC is the only arena FPS that will manage to have a general last on /vg/, hopefully the next beta is a lot more players

>>173515529
any chance of reposting this? wanted to show it to a friend

>>173586142
let's hope more people are able to play the game itself and not stare at the queue timer

How's the playerbase for these games?

>>173591009
quake 3 and quake live usually have 500-1000 players each, most of the quake clones are between 5 and 100.no idea how to find how many people play UT4

is call of duty an arena shooter

>>173590139
day one was the only one with a queue, i got in any time i wanted after the maintenance

>>173586142
It's why an arena shooter general is a good idea.
who /unrealquake/ here????

>>173597815
I play both but like quake more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWVx1fQYqno

I like Xonotic a lot, wish it had more players. The only other AFPS that I've had more fun playing was UT99.

>>173591338
Last time I played UT4 ot was pretty empty the hype for it is totally gone now because epic doesn't do shit with it.

>>173603169
UT4 is an idea gone horribly wrong. Developing games is a long, slow process for the first few years and all that this prealpha crap does is to expose it for everyone to experience it, and get the impression that it's going nowhere (because it takes a lot of time to take it anywhere). And of course, the devs aren't being very communicative, and the game itself has clear issues, Epic have lost their touch long ago. The game has nothing of what made UT99 so damn good. Movement is muddy and nowhere as fluid and snappy as in UT99, mouse input sucks like in every UE4 game, player scale to map size is shit like it has been in every installment after the first UT and so on.

>>173603435
I'm not sure why devs seem to fuck up mouselook so often when it's so important for just about every game.

>>173604397
It's unbelievable, many 1990s shooters had great mouse input, nowadays there are several games with clear mouse issues. UE4 is one of the worst offenders, I'm pretty sure that no UE4 game will ever get it right.

>>173604535
To be fair most late 90s shooters were on id tech. Lithtech had terrible mouse smoothing/acceleration.

>>173604701
>tfw No One Lives Forever is unplayable on modern hardware
There should be a law against tying physics to framerate.

>>173604846
Q3 used to tie framerate to phyaics as well though.

>>173605231
At least they had the foresight to cap it at 125fps unlike NOLF where bumping into objects and jumping on stuff causes weird collision bugs.

Remember to practice your strafejumps and dodging for next beta.

>>173603435
Developing games is hard but it's even harder to develop a game when you're not working on it.

>>173609967
>been practicing for a week
>still cant get past the first challenge in the third section

i hate being retarded
i watched every possible video tutorial and i still cant do it

>>173617264
it takes most people a while to get used to the movement, just play the game and it'll come to you in time

>>173617264
You're probably moving your mouse too much

>>173617264
Use mouse accel and bind jump to right mouse click.

One of the reasons I dislike Quake is that you have to utilize mouse acceleration to navigate maps as efficiently as possible and accel is aids for aiming.

>>173607152
>>173604701
I don't know if that's symptomatic but for some older games launching them while the system is under some stress helps to solve game engines running out of sync, i.e. too fast usually. I use this for Hitman: Codename 47 and Painkiller. Latter may still have issues so I enable only one core and any leftover problems go away.

The way I stress my system is pretty caveman-like, I run a .bat script that starts the game and a simple for loop that runs for up to 100,000 times to saturate the CPU side by side:
@echo off
start /min "" cmd /c "@echo off & for /L %%i in (1,1,75000) do (echo %%i)"
start game.exe
start /min "" cmd /c "@echo off & for /L %%i in (1,1,45000) do (echo %%i)"

The script is placed inside the folder of the game binary and references the name. The amount of loops started and the cycle count is enough for my 2 core system. In any other case these may need to be adjusted. The point is to saturate the system for as long as the game needs to launch and some more.

>>173628649
The problem with lithtech is that it's just a mediocre engine which is why barely anyone licensed it.

So now that we've had a day to mull over the beta ending, what are your thoughts about it? Good? Bad?

>>173631709
Bad. Giving up on arena/fps. I don't have the time to put into them anymore, nor the friend groups.

>>173631709
It's okay but it needs a lot of work if it's going to be good on release. The netcode could also be a dealbreaker right now with how high ping gives you a big advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozvLUp0f1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlAi93dNSbk
Whats the difference?

>>173634340
nobody played battleborn

>>173634340
One of them won the lottery.

>>173634340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlAi93dNSbk#t=19s

so the shitty rocket launcher is an actual design decision and wasn't my game running like shit. into the trash.

>>173635273
Doesn't seem like something that would be very hard to fix.

>>173635762
The problem is thinking it was the right choice in the first place.

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>>173635232

If anyone here plays UT99 Speck's /v/ group is hosting it right now.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal#

Do people use a sourceport to play Q2 nowadays?

>>173634340
I fap to one of them. Pretty big difference there.

>>173634340
american voice "actresses" are the worst

>>173639496
agreed all women should be executed on the spot

>>173634340
I can tolerate Yuri's voice
Think we'll get Anarki's original board as a customization option?

>>173639496
Don't condemn all of them just because it's Ashly "I'm related to but I'm still not Anthony" Burch

>>173639496
only the american ones...

>>173639941
this, cuteboys only

>>173640998
meant for
>>173639941

>>173529260
>Guy is jumping around constantly but only manages to strafejump by accident

>>173642565
such is live as an overwatch player

so why didnt quake 4 get the critical acclaim that quake 3 did?

>>173644494
it was buggy on launch and i think it had some kind of FPS cap that pissed people off
apparently after that it was really good though

>>173627103
I disagree. Accel can make learning movement easier but you can go back to no accel after and keep your gains.

>>173529260
>this is the player who gets beta invite

ded general

>>173647301
Wanna play some QL even though I'm super bad at it?

>>173648214
Sure might as well play while I'm still sober. What server?

>>173648293
I joined that Allah FFA server.

>>173648353
i assume you're the one with the annie may avatar

>>173650182
Nah my character is from vidya and my fighting game main.

>>173650409
good fun

>>173651085
For sure, just a shame I'm so god damn terrible.

All this time I never realized Q2 had its own free version for online just like Q1.
http://q2s.tastyspleen.net/

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>>173570437
>>173571653
>>173648293
>talk to my mother for an hour tonight
>she says she hopes I'm drinking to drown my sorrows
>"of course not lol it's monday"

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>>173653594

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>>173652482
It works perfectly with AQ2 as well. Would be a lot of fun to do some deathmatch in this.

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>>173657237
Man I wish I'd played this as a kid this is what I always wanted CS to be no retarded aiming system just fast and fun

is there any information about the new sacrifice mode? all i can find is tim saying they've scraped the idea several times cause pros kept saying it sucked

>>173661963
tim willits is proof autists can become normal people

>>173634340
christ that first one is so bad

>>173635232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS6J9fdL730

>>173664794
why does Fallout New Vegas use Fallout 2 OST?

It's like cheating to use another, superior game's soundtrack.

>>173666323
NV is loaded with Fallout 2 references

For a general dedicated to games where you go fast, things sure are slow around here

>>173669495
Let this thread die instead of bumping it. There's no interest and about an hour between posts which are obviously bumping it from death.

>>173669608
never

>>173669608
If I have something to say, I'll say it, and if it bumps, it bumps. So fuck off.

>>173669608
things will be slow until QC beta starts up again

>>173661963
I read somewhere that it is like TDM with points on the map you hold for extra tokens for your team. No idea if it was true or not.

>>173671153
I hope they send out the next batch of keys soon.

How would you guys currently fix the champions in QC?

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WHY ARENT THERE ANY AUSTRALIAN Q3 SERVERS ANYMORE THERE ARE TONS IN USA QUAKE LIVE TOTALLY KILLED Q3 I JUST WANT TO PLAY RA3 LIKE YEAR 2000 AGAIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

post thicc nyx webms again

>>173674231
Nerf Anarki's inject to just restore 25HP. It would encourage more constant use to keep Anarki's health topped off rather than have players use it when they're about to die as a get out of jail free card

>>173674272
just play quake live man

>>173674272
reflex has biggoniggo aus servers

So has anyone made porn yet?

Is it Thursday yet?

>>173686882
2 more days

How is reflex compared to QL in terms of general gameplay and player base?

>>173690889
It has like 1/10 of the playerbase

>>173690959
So like 100 players tops?

>>173690994
Pretty much. Steamcharts says the 24 hour peak playercount is 72 players.

>>173690889
reflex is a cpma clone, here's the server list for an idea of how active it is https://reflex.syncore.org/

>>173691339
>33 players
RIP

>tfw this general will never have a UT vs Quake rivalry because UT is dead as fuck

>>173681209
There's already Quake porn if that counts.

>>173693563
Yeah but 99% of it is rubbish, just rubbish.

>>173693805
Like most games then.

>>173693805
Huntress is a shameless ripoff of some comic just fap to that.

>>173696615
But I have boners only for Crash.

>>173674801
His ability would be useless because you can't shoot while u heal. Most anarkis die mid heal anyways.

Didn't play in the first beta weekend for QC but I'll be able to play this weekend. How was the performance? I have a 174770k and a 770.

>>173703158
I have a 4690k and a 770, and it performed well. It was eating up like 8-10 GB of RAM though, so it could have some performance issues if you don't have at least 16 GB.

>>173703158
i5-4690k, 8gb ddr3 ram @800mhz, gtx980 here
shit performance for me, stutters all the fucking time and long loading screens that just end up disconnecting me. also 100% ram + gpu usage.

>>173703158
Other than issues on their side, like queue times, it ran perfectly on my end with all the settings maxed out.

>>173703158
I have an r9 390 and 2500k and the game ran fine aside from the occasional stutter. The game will probably be playable for you but it is definitely unoptimized.

>>173703158
after messing around on nvidia control panel, i was able to get it running super smooth @ 120hz off of a lenovo ideapad y700

>>173703158
>I have a 174770k

Is the future as shit as we all think it will be?

>>173703597
>>173703819
>>173703920
>>173704120
>>173704207
thanks. i have 16gb of ram so the memory leak shouldn't be a problem if they haven't fixed.

>>173704541
kek

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>tfw 60hz monitor

>>173704982
noob

>>173706080
fuck off fatal1ty

>>173706080
QC will be my first quake game :^) AMA

>>173706353
Did you get into the beta and play Quake for the first time or are you planning for QC to be your first Quake game once it's actually released/you get into other betas?

>>173706505
I got into the beta. probably because i signed up as soon as it was revealed.

>>173706861
Neat how are you liking it? Is it your first arena shooter in general? QC was also my first MP quake game but not my first arena shooter.

>>173706861
Nope. I and many others signed up on day 1 as well and got nothing. Winners were picked at random. People who signed up the day before the lottery got keys. Some popular people in the scene like NVZ also didn't get keys. It really was 100% random.

>>173707190
>It really was 100% random.
There's nothing wrong with this. I've never seen people so butthurt before about not getting picked for a beta and then buying keys because they were slighted by id and felt they deserved a key.

>>173706948
haven't played it yet but i'll be playing on thursday, im >>173703158. i've never played an arena shooter before but i think i'm going to enjoy the faster pace of it compared to fistful of frags which i have over 500 hours in.

>>173707190
wow, really? that surprises me. i signed up with a couple different emails and the one i used to sign up as soon as it was possible was picked and others that i signed up with later were not. if my other emails get a key i'll make sure to drop it here.

>>173707572
I signed up one right away and one maybe a week in. Neither got mail. Other people signed up 5 emails on day 1 and got nothing. Most people got nothing.

>>173707396
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. From what I heard the first weekend was a technical shit show any way. It only gets better and everyone will get in eventually (beta phase will go at least until Quakecon).

>people still haven't played quake 1-3 and QC is their first quake game
they're so easy to get for free legally online there's no excuse

>>173708269
aren't they dead?

>>173708468
nope
in a server with 10 people in Q2 right now

>>173708967
damn........10ppl......................rly not ded.........................................................

>>173709731
>how to spot a retard that doesn't play deathmatch

>>173709960
not an argument

>>173709960
Have fun playing on a single server with 10 people and pretending the game isn't dead.

>>173710825
Last time I checked Q2 has more players than Reflex. You kids don't know the meaning of dead.

>>173711069
Reflex is also dead.

>>173711686
Dead is TS mod or Firearms where the only players are just bots.

>>173711069
>dead game has slightly more players than a dead game
woah

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play active an arena shooter

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>>173712114
>play active an arena shooter
>posts CoD 4
Wut?

>>173710769
more than 8 people in a FFA is a clusterfuck

>>173715605
More than two people in FFA is a clusterfuck. Also it would be better if instead of Quad there were a mega health.

>>173719215
this