/arena/ - Arena FPS General

Who's the best champ

>>173915889
Galena is my waifu

>>173915889
Slash for dat crouch slide without having any of anarki's downsides.

>>173915915
>tfw your waifu isn't in yet

>>173915336
Is duel available now?

>>173915639
Why does EZQuake default to ugly as shit?
You've gotta jump through hoops to make it look vanilla, and even then you still can't really do that.

>>173916005
>tfw worrying about them ruining your husbando (Xaero) or not including at all.

Not sure if I should hope they don't, then at least they can't ruin him.

>>173916174
>husbando
no gays allowed

>>173916037
No. DM & TDM.

>>173916104
There are options in the menu to get the normal Quake HUD once you get the textures fixed, no?

just got scalebearer out of a box. pls no wipe.

>>173916336
Agreed, I didn't mean it literally.

>>173916104
nobody plays quake vanilla anymore

anyone want to join two anons for some TDM?

>>173917271
I play vanilla Quake singleplayer

YOU BASTARDS. WHY ARE YOU TORTURING ME LIKE THIS?

who /no invite/ here?

J U S T

>>173918320
>>173918403

you can literally buy a key for the price of a fucking bag of chips.

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>>173918486
I asked if I should buy one and 3 anons told me it's not worth it.

>>173918554
do you consult your mom about what you should wear to high school every day? give your balls a tug you tit fucker.

>>173918486
>giving money to Russians and Chinese for any reason

>>complaining about not beta testing a piece of shit

wew lads

>>173916441
Oh well, then I'm still not missing anything.

>>173918718
we usually ask your mom when she's over

>>173918486
>paying for a beta
l0l

>>173919002
nice one anon.

just buy the fucking key if you want to play it though. in my opinion it's worth 4-6 dollars or whatever the fucking the chinks and ruskies are selling it for.

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ORBB WHEN?

>>173919326
SOON*

>>173919326
that image gave me a chuckle thanks anon

What do you think about the new casual Quake that's coming out on consoles in 2017?

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Lucy when?

Galena's hitboxes are fucked right now and you can't nailjump consistently because of the netcode.

>>173921319
HAHAHA YEAHH

>>173921425
nailjump? (i'm new)

>>173921550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmRNQXG3jJY

>>173921671
thanks m8

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Rail either needs to be nerfed back to 80 damage or go all the way with 100 damage and balance champions accordingly. LG needs reduced range, Galena needs her hitboxes fixed, and the game needs a nade launcher. What else?

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I'm upset that I still don't have a chance to play QC beta.

>>173921425
>Galena's hitboxes are fucked right now
In her favor or no?

>>173922521
matchmaking

>>173922631
There already is matchmaking and it sucks because I'd rather join a server and not wait between rounds.

>>173922598
Massively in her favor.

i want to get better. can anyone give me just a few general tips? i don't know if i'm losing fights because my aim/tracking is shit or because i shouldn't be taking those fights in the first place.

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>got a triple kill with scalebearer's charge when contesting the quad

this game might not be total trash

>>173923110
never fight without a good weapon(rl,lg,super shotgun),rl is good for close range/spaming lg is good for mid range and use rail for long range, if you're low run away, shoot at people's feet with the rl to knock them up for an easy direct/rail, shooting at people's feet with lg makes it easier to see which way they're strafing for some people

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arena fps community might be the harshest, most unpleasable game critics I've ever seen

>"UHHH THISH ROCKET HITBOX RELATIONSHIP DOESN'T CONFORM TO QUAKE VER. 24.1.26c's X, Y, Z, T ROCKET LAUNCHER ROTATIONS, AS WE ALL KNOW IS THE BEST VERSION OF THE ROCKET LAUNCHER.
>ALSO THIS IS TOO MUCH LIKE OVERWATCH
>I HOPE SOMEONE IS GETTING FIRED OVER THIS BLUNDER"

>>173923364
>direct/rail

The best kind of rail.
t. shpuld

>>173923364
thanks. ive been taking way too many fights with starter weapons i think. i'll focus more on getting better weapons before engaging. it's just hard in FFA where you have more people coming up your ass than christy mack.

>>173923602
fuck off with your strawman retard

>>173923709

>>173923626
knowing the map is a huge part of ffa, once you know where people generally fight you can avoid those areas until you have a gun

also, how often do you goes scope in? i hardly ever use it unless i'm using the rail.

>>173923742
only with the rail

>>173923735
>>173923805

thanks. maybe i can get out of the dumpster now.

>>173923626

I'd never fight without armour if I could help it. At this point in the game, you can grab the armour pickups a lot of the time because most players aren't going to be looking for them. Same for the megahealth.

they really need to have clientside hit detection like overwatch
I never do well with the slow fat characters, because they're so easy to hit, especially with the lg
Meanwhile I have my cursor on the smaller characters and get shitty hit detection because of their toothpick hitboxes and constant movement.
Add all of this up to a really one-sided gunfight. I get a kd ratio of 3 as anarki/nyx, and barely positive as clutch

>>173924458
i'm pretty sure the hit detection is already clientside which is garbage go back to server side like the good old days at least shit makes sense

>>173924458

Apparently they enlarged the hitboxes of the light champs but I doubt it'll change things much. As soon as the update finishes I'm just buying Slash again. At this point in the game I think you should only be playing Slash, Nyx or Anarki.

>permanent champions behind pay walls

fucking dropped

>>173924439
yeah, im going to start paying more attention to the maps to try and remember where all the important shit is.

>>173924919
>trying to find a reason to stop playing
>can buy all champs outright instead of fucking with f2p
>can get champs from crates unlocked on leveling up

just leave

>>173924919
you have a random chance of getting them permanently

>>173924919
*a paywall

Let the pitchfork rest until they announce a price, and if there are other paid things or if that's all.

>>173924919

I had 4 of them by the end of the beta last week. If anything they're way too generous.

>>173924458
Both server side hit detection and client side hit detection have their changes on gameplay.

Client side hit detection favors the shooter.
Server side hit detection favors the nimble.

With movement being such a major part of QC, I think server side hit detection would be the real way to go. It might just be better to bring toothpick characters speed down, and hope that players get better at making slow fat characters go fast.

The real challenge is getting servers located all over the world with enough power to run very high tick rate and minimize latency as much as possible to begin with. The reason the closed beta is blowing out some people's internet connections is because they're probably trying to see just how many updates per second they can get out of modern day internet connections and users and their own servers.

>>173925270
Just copy Quake Live's current netcode and paste it into whatever meme engine they're using right now.

>>173925359
Quake Live's netcode is often berated for rewarding you aiming behind targets rather than on them. It's not perfect.

>>173925456
The people that berate it are the same people that complain about having 50 ping. They're delusional retards that need excuses for missing shots so their ego isn't hurt. QL's netcode is a lot better than when it first came out.

Good god this game is terrible.

Clunky movement, godawful hit detection, and warping enemies.

It's impossible to tell what is going on because sound is so fucked and enemy models are indistinguishable from teammates close up.

How do they fuck up something so badly?

>>173924919
I'm the other way around.
Unless they're like "LOL microtransaction that'll be FIFTEEN DOLLARS" the hybrid pay-to-unlock or play-to-unlock system generates way more content, better content for a game in the long run. Overwatch dumped a ballsy 50 up front price, asked for money for RNG lootboxes for skins, then release content less often than a dead MMO and it's all painful for it.

>>173925558
In the game's defense the previous quake betas all had their own problems as well the question is whether or not they will fix them on release. If I remember correctly you had a limit on strafe jumping before Q3 was released and they were planning on patching it out completely before they got flooded with fanmail telling them not to.

>>173916005
lucy?

History of quake:

Every iteration has been garbage, stop remaking the game Quake 1 alpha was fine.

>>173925956
what are you even on about

>>173926089
Arena FPS fans are impossible to please and will always bitch about everything. Always.

>>173926183
what are you even on about

>>173926280
xD

I finally figured out that turning down resolution scaling increases FPS. I am getting about 90 FPS with stutters and super blurry picture instead of 60 FPS with stutters and a slideshow. Not good enough.

>>173926605
it's better to play at a lower resolution than to turn down resolution scaling

>>173923626
go nailgun for starter weapon, shotgun is good too. starter is basically emergency while you're going to some weapon spawns. If you're new the machinegun wont do you well cause it's hard to aim for a noob. And memorize where mega spawns on all maps.

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>>173926605

get a better rig, I never go below 80 on high and my parts are about 2 years old at this point

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>>173924919
If they keep the 500plat every 5 levels into the main game then I'm set. I won't even use some of them, hell once Orbb comes out I'm only using him.

>>173927302

I never really thought about how fucked up Orbb was. He's literally a couple of arms grafted onto some alien eyeball.

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>>173927440
Orbb is cute

>>173927440
Look closer and you'll realize his arms are actually attached to a human pelvic bone in place of where the legs should be.

>>173925270
>favors the nimble

is this some sort of weird joke? If anarki is going really fast, and I drag my crosshair onto his body and shoot my rail, I should hit him. I had my crosshair over the pixels which represent where his hitboxes are.

Why should I have to calculate how much to shoot into the future based on 70 ping? If they were accurate on their screen, meaning they had 70% accuracy with rails on their screen, then that should mean 70% rails.

am i missing something or is there no crosshair customization yet?

>>173928198
there is none

>>173924458
Overwatch netcode is garbage.

>want to make webms and post shit
>trying my hardest to at least not be at the bottom of the scoreboard

fuck

you guys want to see anything in particular that isnt gameplay?

>>173929237
screenshot of your usename

>>173929237
i could record some gameplay but i can't be bothered to censor stuff out

>>173926838
i'm playing on the minimum resolution and with low resolution scaling

>>173924919
>pay once
>get all champions
literally the shareware model revived you goon.

I will try to record a webm of crouchsliding for the lads that couldn't get into the beta. Bear in mind I never played Quake 4.

>>173930014
i work for quake ill ban you if you post it

NDA

>>173930125
I'm quakeing in my boots right now.

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Never played quake before, mostly played fighters my entire life. I get the same rush from playing this game from when I compete in tourneys. I just went 32-3 and hit so many good airborne rockets and rails. Feels fucking good man.

>>173930279
Here's your (Rimshot)

>>173930596
Try Quake Live it gives an even bigger rush especially when you start killing people above your skill level

why does the rl feel so wrong

>>173930809
The delay ruins it

>>173930596
Quake champs is ass and filled with people that has never played a quake game before. Play any other quake game, I think quake live is the most populated(?), and try to do good there. So much more fun and competitive.

>>173930809
I think its slow?

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i wish my tf2 skills could translate into this

>>173930697
>>173930862
Just bought it, hopefully playing more skilled players on live will make me better overall at champions. I'm ready to get fucking bodied

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>mfw 18/18 games won so far

>>173932287
3/10 :(

>>173931706
There are plenty of newbies on QL it's not all that bad and the community is pretty nice.

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Overwatch general gets a bit of bleed over from the QC beta. Some guys posting webms of their QC shooting. Overwatch a section of the the playerbase that is dying for a quality arena/team based hybrid shooter. They just can't stand the low return on skill in Overwatch, the inane balancing, and the shitty feel from the hit detection and netcode.

>>173930125
NDA makes sense. bad publicity on a closed beta with things in progress can really hurt a game. BUT I WANT MORE I CAN'T STAND THE WAITING. THE 30 MINUTE LONG VID SOMEONE POSTED THAT WENT THROUGH THE CHARACTERS AND SKINS WAS SEX. SEX. QUAKE PROS SHOOT A ROCKET UP MY ASS. I AM SEX STARVED AND I NEED IT. OPEN BETA IS SO FAR AWAY. REEEEE

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>>173932725

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>>173933179
>>173933018

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that's not all kids

It really does look good

LUCY
WHEN

>>173933406
But does it play good?

I got the game today from a friend

Started as ranger and went fucking FLYING
I was not expecting this movement

>>173933525
acceleration when moving feels off compared to other quakes from my experience which makes fights less interesting imo

>>173933705
I blame the speed stat/bunny hop passives. Hell I find stated characters at all really unnecessary. Skills are one thing but everyone having different HP/Armor/Speed and hitboxes are just fucking lame.

how do I take a screenshot in this game? Is it f12 like all steam games?

>>173934321

probably disabled because NDA

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>tfw when find a good slipgate to shove someone in

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i'm sorry i suffer from performance anxiety
the plan was to spend the whole time crouch sliding to pick up speed but i kept getting blocked

>>173934547
>What the fuck am I summoning.png

>>173934769
>performance anxiety

know that feel, Anon.

>>173933525
I don't know I haven't gotten an invite.

>>173933705
maybe they're going for momentum

is there anything more satisfying that slipgating into someone

Anyone in AUS get key?

>>173935240
slipping your dick into someone

>get a skin that isnt an armor shader
>its the fucking exposed brain for visor

god dammit
his default is too good

also anyone knows what he's saying in the selection screen?

>>173935582
ah nuuu, cheeki breeki

any tips for quake noobs other than "practice xd"
like i know to practice, i get it
any tips for fighting others?
starting weapons?
what should i prioritize?
what do if enemy has X and i have Y?

I've gotten used to moving around the maps while keeping my speed and not hitting into the walls much, but the amount of kills I get in a game has definitely dropped. Gotta improve on staying in action instead of just hopping around and avoiding everyone. Having lots of fun learning the ropes.

>>173936926

The largest mental hurdle for new Quake players in my experience is the idea that you are in your weakest state fresh out of spawn. You need to treat the map as you would the 'neutral game' in something like Street Fighter with weapons being your normals in that analogy.

Focus more on increasing your own strength and controlling key locations at the right times rather than hunting players with the intention to kill them (that will happen naturally). This is naturally harder to do in non-duel modes as you have more than one opponent.

When Bethesda unlocks duel that will be a far more useful training tool as the outcome of your decision making will be more obvious.

Here is Rapha commentating his own match vs another good player (Cooller) for an idea of what should be going through your mind as you play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

>>173936926
Get a stable 250 fps.

>>173935582
>Leap into my sense

>tfw just playing QC to finish a set for slasher
It's not gay to play barbie right anons?

Mfw I have a fucking 750ti. I can run everything on low at average 80fps.

>>173937881
playing dress up is fun

>>173935053
i got a decent round this time so i'll post more webms this time hopefully i dont get fucked over for having other player names in it

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played qlive for couple of days and tried qc again yesterday
it felt so horrible i uninstalled it straight after 5 games

They actually managed to make a quake worse than live. Another franchise put in the "reboot" shitter. Even fucking overwatch feels better to play.

RIP quake.
RIP tribes.
RIP unreal.
RIP good shooters.
RIP online gaming.

>>173939631
i felt that way but then i started playing slasher
i still go back to QL but QC is still pretty fun in the honeymoon phase

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>>173939967
>overwatch feels better to play
opinion discarded, go back to holding M1 in Overwatch, shooters are not for you

>>173940112
you just had to scroll down to the bottom of the MOTD you fucking mong
christ i can't believe people are actually too stupid for community servers with plugins what the fuck

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>>173940112
wrong webm

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For the anons that were asking if rockets could launch players into the air.

>>173940112
>>173940242
Not sure why you would post this as if I didn't know OW is a babby shooter (ironically from TF2, itself a babby shooter). It's still better than Q:C, deal with it. Tribes, UT, and old quake are better than both but have no players.

>>173935582
visor got the best transition to QC
strange they didn't add sarge

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will QC allow modding
i want a new quake fortress

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>Quake Champions playable RIGHT NOW
>24 viewers watching FATAL1TY play a survival meme game

>>173942693
who

>>173943027
the cashews of chaos guy

Did this beta fix cpu, gpu, ram and vram usage?

>>173942693
I didn't know girls from the 90s could be cute

>>173943530
NDA. Can't tell you.

What I can tell you is that the minimum specs haven't changed.

>>173943530

I'm not using 100% of my gpu on the main menu anymore.

>>173943745
You had to be alive then to know the feel.

>>173933349

nyx is CUTE!!!!!!!!!!

>>173943882
What about system and video memory? In phase 1 it would keep increasing until it hit the limit.

>>173937682
Ok, lets face it, you don't need any duel skills from Q3/QL in 10 player deathmatch chaos. Just hope you spawn near quad, and keep picking it up (no timing required, literally tells you).

>>173944052

I'm at around 3.5gb of ram usage so far, I could check again after a couple matches

>>173944458
Also pray that you don't spawn in front of the player who has the quad

>>173944458

Just remember the shield spots and you're probably going to outlive everyone else even if you're bad, no one goes for them yet.

>>173944816
Should be fixed then, or it would've maxed out at 8gb or 16gb, unless you only have 4gb.

>>173944885
I was initially timing both armors and mega, but dropped it because I was getting killed in seconds anyway (too many players on the map). Now I just run around fragging as fast as possible and picking items on the run when I can. And ofc hopping on Quad, with proper LG you can get like 15 frags per run it's crazy.

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>>173944885
>>173944458
that's because if we're ever going to get a quake game, there has to be money in it. And money requires a playerbase.
Quake does not have that playerbase, so it's trying to grab people without annoying the elites too much.

No one gives a shit about duel except for us. quake deathmatching is a fun, chaotic clusterfuck. It doesn't have that much strategy, but it's fun and will attract players.
We will have classic duel available, but also the devs want to focus on 3v3 as well. People like teamgames. They like spawning with a starter kit.
That's why clutch moves faster when you walk straight and has a shield, they made a character for people who can't strafejump.

Again, we will have classic duel. For all the purists out there wanting an oldschool arena fps, I certainly don't see you fuckers playing reflex/quakelive.
This is literally the best case scenario and we should take it.

>>173945613
inconsistent as fuck

>>173943530
It's better but I think there are still memory leaks that will slow down performance over time

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Sometimes I think the matchmaking works and then I get a match where I hit 50 frags and the guy in second has 24.

Got in this time around, but with the current d/l speeds I'll be ready to play an hour before the beta ends. Fuck.

>>173937682
Very nice video man... thanks alot

>>173946870
Are you literally retarded? Is he supposed to hit 50 as well? What about 3 other players?

>>173947308

If there's matchmaking then most players will ideally be on a similar K/D.

hunter when

grenade launcher when

so happy if this becomes a thing and qc and to a lesser extent reflex revive arena shooters, shitty tactical fps have been a plague ever since halo and call of duty, I'd love to see a revival

>>173915924
but no air control right?

>>173947424
There's no matchmaking though

>>173945454
>No one gives a shit about duel except for us.
I've played a lot of quake and I don't even care about duel. I'd rather play CA, instagib CTF, or get my ass kicked trying to defrag than tryhard duel.

>>173948614
Quake is one of the two pillars, along with UT it could mark the start of something but UT already dropped the ball lol.

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Why is this so slow

>>173948614
you don't need air control when you can turn by crouch sliding

>>173916336
But what if she's a girl.

So Quake Champions feels pretty much exactly like the Doom multiplayer. Janky hit detection, garbage tick rate (getting shot around corners/through walls). Spawn system puts me more often in front of 3 enemies than anywhere near my team. Only good thing I have to say about it is it looks and runs well.

Pretty much only difference is special character abilities and non-loadout based.

>>173953124
Hell, even the railgun is the same as the shitty Doom railgun that requires you to zoom in and lose mobility.

>>173948658

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

I have at least been playing with people who have 1k+ hours in QL judging from a quick google search of their username's and steam profiles.

I never really played Duel in arena shooters before so I'm going to give it a go with this. I tried a few times in QL but the last time, I just got kicked.

Just recorded a 50-12 FFA game - gonna upload after I edit it a bit for the boys who are thirsty for footage.

>>173954972
thanks anon, make sure you censor

>>173955528
Censored very bottom, very top, killfeed, and chat. Is that enough?

>>173956183
yeah should be, as long as no names show up, cheers.

>>173956668
names of the people i'm killing show up, lol

>>173956892
Based anon

>>173956892

already reported this webm to bethesda beta support for breaking the NDA :)

they shouldn't have too many problems finding the match ID from the other player names :)

>>173956892
your sacrifice will not be in vain.
ndafags can fuck right off

Deleted the post boys. I'm too much of a pussy

I don't think the dude actually reported me but I'll re-edit it later with the frag messages on the center of the screen censored too.

>>173957360
i saved your vid, but will not post it ofc. you are a hero though.

rg still does more damage zoomed in?

>>173957528
Yes

>>173957540
Gay
Are people at least bitching about it on their forums?

>>173958027
you know whats even gayer? delay on rockets. and there are even less people bitching on forums about that.

>>173958479
>delay on rockets
You press fire and the rl shoots after about one second, is that it?

>>173959608
yes, it screws you up. im not saying you cant get used to it, but i have older quakes to play and it would be nice not having to adjust everytime.

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BONES WHEN

>>173959798

But you cant rapid fire any rocket launcher in any quake. There has always been some delay, no matter how small. Is it really that big of a deal? I wish i could rapid fire a rocket launcher in q3 but there is still a delay.

>>173958479

Out of interest, how much delay do you mean? I'm wondering if you're a victim of lag or if you're a previous heavy QL player. I can't say I've been upset with the RL with beta 2 so far, but I did have issues with it in beta 1.

The lightning gun was also really fucked for beta1, but seems to be better in beta2. It's really weird, there are some games where I can fire it and it will always show the beam, but others where it will only show the beam if it's close to hitting a player or object.

>>173962397
i imagine rockets would be really powerful considering how fast the projectile is and how slow most of the characters are. splash would have to be very low

>>173962543

What?

I'm asking that guy what he means by delay. I think some people are just being put in the wrong region and this game has some weird netcode for some weapons. The forums have similar complaints for the RL and I'm pretty sure it's a lag thing, because I have zero issue with it so far and I don't think I'm just completely unaware of it being delayed by a few milliseconds or something.

>>173962662
the's about a quarter of a second between when you click and when the rocket comes out, i don't think it affects everyone because i didn't have it in the first beta but i have it now

>spawn
>enemy nearby with LG
>dead

if they don't do something about LG this game is doomed. a weapon that is impossible to dodge should not do that much damage. people seem so afraid to criticize it though because muh aim skills and muh old quake.

>>173918486
where

>>173944458
if there's no skill needed why does scoreboard in QL deathmatch all weapons always look like this
someautist: 79
someplayer: 50
someplayer2: 49
someplayer3: 42
someplayer4: 39
someplayer5: 35
someplayer6: 35
etc

>>173967293
because QUAKE 3 WAS THE BEST QUAKE ANY ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT GAME IS LITERALLY A BLUNDER.

>>173967489
what

>>173967489
>QUAKE 2 WAS THE BEST QUAKE ANY ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT GAME IS LITERALLY A BLUNDER.
There, fixed that for you

>>173966173
>impossible to dodge

>>173967787
>QUAKE 1 WAS THE BEST QUAKE ANY ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT GAME IS LITERALLY A BLUNDER.

we can keep going, too.

>>173967810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWoAM-x5aQk
The hate is nothing new, been there done that.

>>173967808
no one has 100% accuracy with LG but that doesn't mean the target is "dodging" it. a dodge would be predicting where someone will fire a rocket and making a deliberate move to avoid it. against LG all you can do is hit random move keys, whether you're cooller or some 90 year old grandma if the opponent has good LG aim you're going to take the same damage.

if the skill of the target mattered in LG damage then why do people brag about their "40% LG". they get the same hit rate on everyone.

>>173965615

Oh that's what anon means. That is weird. I thought they meant cooldown between firing rockets.

>>173967808
You can dodge projectiles but only move erratically vs shaft

>>173962397
okay im here, so first off I have to apologize, because I havent tested it with the second beta. now that I did it definetly feels much better, on the first beta I had the feeling that the rocket does seem to appear at instant but it only begins to accelarate half a second later thus causing the delay.
Now its better, although something is still off, something I cant put my hands on, but thats just me.

Now we enter real nitpicking territory, so feel free to dismiss this point if you do not agree.
The rocket does not have projectile tracking smoke effect coming out. This has been present in all quakes in different degrees, and it served as a mechanic helping dodging, everyone has its own opinions on its significance, but I do believe, and many other do, that it helped with dodging immensely, and was part of the core design when it came to the rocket launcher.

>>173967150
kinguin had some

>>173968237
"40% LG" means 40% against good players who know how to dodge

LG dodging is all about strafing away from the enemy's beam and then the opposite direction when they try to correct themselves. Some people play on low sens or zoom and they're pretty easy to just walk around and hit in the ass.

>>173967150
plati dot ru

easiest way to add picmip?

>>173968925
is kinguin an ok site
do you recommended a specific payment option?

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i wonder how long until this general dies again

How much space does QC require at the moment?

>>173970107
id like2 no this too

>>173970067
i have never purchased from them but i haven't heard anything bad about them.

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>tfw ut4 will never ever be finished
i don't like quake, but it looks like QC will be my best arena fps option

>>173968237
>whether you're cooller or some 90 year old grandma if the opponent has good LG aim you're going to take the same damage.

Wrong. You can absolutely dodge LG by avoiding the beam and by picking up on weaknesses of the opponent's aim. Some people tend to lag behind the target, others tend to overshoot it. You can abuse this but only once you've noticed it and if you know how to counter it. For instance against the overshooters you want to stop, then keep moving the same way. This will cause them to track "past" you and then flick "past" you a second time when they try to correct and you start moving again. Whereas against a "lagger" this move would be useless. He would just catch up to you and stay on target. This is how strenx and evil aim and there's less you can do at that point. Against strenx people would go in close because he used low sens like
>>173969792
said. Evil uses accel, he can turn as fast as he wants. I'm not advanced enough to give advice on dodging evil but I'm sure top level players would have opinions about the subject and would tell you that it is possible, just extremely difficult and possibly not worth attempting.

Here's why it may seem like top players don't really dodge: Dodging requires you to focus on something other than your own aim and most of the time when one player is shooting another with LG in an open space the other player will pull out his own LG and focus on dealing the same damage back instead of dodging. Watch out for asymmetrical fights, when a player has to use rockets or rail vs LG, that's where you will see high level players dodging LG.

>>173970082
about a week after release when the vast majority of people realise it isn't the fun jumpy rocket shooting game they remember or see in frag videos but is actually an anti-fun LG/HMG fest that only autists with pro gamer mice can enjoy

>>173970107
12.4 GB

>>173970489
All right,thanks.

>>173970478
>autists with pro gamer mice

So... the average Quake player?

Is there a likely release date yet?

I just sent the email for the beta invite so I hope I get in.

>>173970589
>>173970478
b-but QC was supposed to bring in new players. otherwise you might as well just play QL

game is already ruined, chat is 100% russian now.

im out

>>173970934
>chat is 100% russian
wtf i hape f2p now

>>173970741
QC is set up as a bait and switch. Bait in normalfags with slow trailers showing Overwatch characters - then throw them into the lions' den to be devoured by people who can strafejump, track them with LG and dodge their tier 1 rockets.

All the talk about accessibility is a complete sham since QC really is the opposite of accessible. It's everything we had to learn playing previous Quakes PLUS the champion meta. Nothing gets any easier, they just took Quake and made it even more complicated. Literally the one thing they're doing to make the game easier to pick up is match-making. Other than that it's 100% Quake and then some.

>>173970741
it's even worse than QL because rockets are shit in this one

like I said above, if they don't do something drastic about LG it will be dead in a matter of days. even overwatch or any moba is more fun than getting constantly LG'd by multiple people because at least there you have options and >0% chance of survival. I played tons of quake before, played 2 games of this beta and said fuck it this isn't any fun, so what chance does a casual have.

>>173971215
match making is cancer. what if i want to play against better players to learn their strategies and improve myself?

beta invite when

did they fix the 100% gpu usage?

is there no escape from lootbox/cosmetics cancer in 2017

>>173971338
They won't play you out of fear losing rank. Welcome to modern gaming where the only way to get better is to play in a clan or some shit.

>>173972198
i don't see anything wrong with it for free games. but fuck overwatch for charging 30 bucks ontop of their shitty lootbox system.

>page 8
ded

>>173971290
>plsyed tons of quake before
>played 2 games and still couldn't figure out how to avoid getting spawnfragged
Hmm...

>>173974338
get good maybe?

>>173973635
dude stop saying shit. while ow has tons of flaws, costing 40bucks is great. who cares about loot boxes

>>173971290
how fucking bad are you dude
im an ow babby and i started owning as soon as i figured out i shouldnt run into a fight before getting shit

>played tons of quake before
lmfoa kys nerd

>reroll daily challenge
>get something worse that rewards less
Every fucking time.

wtf is up with the INSANE lag in champions moving you around
and firing a rocket
it fucking lands where i aimed three seconds ago
how can they make it feel so bad

50% downloaded.SOON

>>173976623
Don't bother, game blows.

how many maps are there? I keep ending up in the lava map (80% of the time), the eye map (10%) and the temple (10%)

>>173970934
Ruskies have the strongest Quake communities for all the games.

>>173970934
Free2Play, shitty countries will flock to them.

>>173977062
Those three.

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>>173922521
>and the game needs a nade launcher
I don't miss it at all tbqh. If there would be a nade launcher with better trajectory like UT flak secondary then yes, but q3 nade launcher was always a disappointing spot in an otherwise flawless game.

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>>173934547
>shove another ranger into the slipgate with your own dire orb

Reminder that if you click on the globe on the bottom-right corner, you can pick which server you want to play on. After noticing a lot of Russian myself, I checked the server and it had picked Moscow for me instead of Amsterdam despite getting lower ping on the latter.

>>173948614
We haven't had a good tactical FPS since Raven Shield. These pseudo tactical shooters are gay as fuck.

what dpi and sens are you guys using?

800/0.42 here

there isn't a converter or anything yet, right?

>>173977907
Thanks for pointing that out.

Looks like they put a server in:

US Central (Iowa),
EU Amsterdam
RU Moscow

>>173978218
800/0.18
To convert QL/Q3/goldsrc sensitivity to QC, just divide the value by 5.

>>173978218
multiply your ql sens by 0.2

>>173977762
yeah fuck off retard the nade launcher in Q3 was very important for defensive use and a counter to fags that try to rush up to spam LG on you
now the LG seems to have both long rangeer and extra damage

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o shit

>>173978417
>800/0.18
Oops, I meant 1200/0.18

>>173978218
400/0.526 (39cm/360)

>>173978454
Clutch is looking to wreck that ass.

>>173978218
950/0.60
I just started today

>>173978417
>>173978438

thanks
>>173978417
>800/0.18

jesus christ, that's slow as fuck.

>>173977856
how much damge orb do?

>>173978218
800/.26

>>173979139
one of the best q3 cpma players, gaiia uses 59cm/360 , anything is possible anon, just believe in yourself.
there is no such thing as right sensitivity.

>>173979392
im not saying it's bad but fuck me if my arm wouldn't fall off after a couple hours of using a sens that slow.

>>173979392
>59cm/360
jeez

>>173979579
the lower the sens the better you play xD

>>173978454
Did you now have both of these or do you have to select one?

>>173979729
you get both.

>>173970934
well, FUCK.

>>173979151
100 on a direct hit, instagib if you telefrag. I think it's possible to do both with one dire orb

>>173979636
only applies if you have good mouse accel

>>173980009
gonna play this nig now simply because good ability and close up it's 100% instakill
just got fwomped on

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>>173979729
both. The crates are split up into 3 categories:

Backpack
Chest
Reliquary

how come the trailer shows someone bunnyhopping and having full air control but now while playing its p much quake live movement?

>>173980226
anarki has air control as his passive

>>173979531
it does fall off, he is just a monster. he does these flicks and has insane movement. its unbelieveable. 59/360 lads, and he stated that he does NOT use mouse accel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ui0hz6sm0

signed up with 2 emails, got 2 beta keys :^)

>>173980463
do you need autism to be this good?

>>173980637
congrats anon, you really earned them! :^). see you on the battlefield :3

>>173980326
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what

something needs to be done about the LG

>>173978218

I'm on 800dpi and have just stuck with the default 1 sens in QC, I have no idea what this means in whatever else there is.

>>173982287
that's super fast but whatever works for you. how are your games going?

450/0.28 sensitivity master race.

FINALLY got a key

Does QC even have music ingame during a match? If it does, it's so shitty I can't even remember it. Tribes 2 was the last MP FPS to have good music.

>>173982925
I've heard some really quiet piano, maybe.

>>173983087
the audio mixing of all their games is fucked up now
everything that should be loud is really quiet in doom 4 and QC and the music is really muffled in doom 4

>>173982925
There's ambient industrial similar to the quiter bits of the Sonic Mayhem soundtrack.

>>173981696
why

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>>173982443

I'm on 21% accuracy with the LG and 37% with the RL but I'm not sure if that means much. I think no matchmaking means 90% of the people I'm playing don't have much FPS experience so I'm just getting an inflated sense of how I'm doing.

i cant get my lg over 32% i blame the frame drops and occasional lag

>>173984804
How big is your mousepad? As a rule of thumb it makes sense to be able to do a full spin without leaving your mousepad. If it's really big or if you don't use one at all then try something like 30-40 cm for a full turn. If you're using kiddy units that should be something like 12-16 inches.

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>>173978442
That's what the RL is better suited for, rather ask why there is as good as no fucking pop-up. projectile pop-up balances hitscan to a degree a fucking pill thrower won't help against the inevitable hitscan dominance one fucking bit you short-sighted son of a meth whore.

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great

>>173985414
there is pop-up retard
and your opinions are garbage

>>173985414
Maybe they're having difficulty making pop-up work with the different classes. The light classes would be thrown about while the heavies would still exhibit no change. So heavy characters would still be hitscan monsters you can't stop with RL.

That is assuming you use a realistic / immersive way of calculating knockback physics where heavy characters actually behave "heavily". The alternative would be equal knockback on everyone but that would look and feel silly imo.

How would you solve this?

>>173985116

This

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AJN9O1Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't really have an issue with my sensitivity I always had it pretty high.

>>173985626
"Shaders" as combinations of two colors at a time are stupid. I don't want to select from preselected combinations, I want to pick two separate colors. They ought to be able to come up with enough possible shades and patterns to make this varied enough. It worked in Doom MP so why bloat it up with predefined combinations?

>>173985817
>I don't really have an issue with my sensitivity

21% LG against noobs says otherwise. Take it from me, I had bad LG as well, still not great. The only ways to improve LG are lowering sens and FOV. And possibly increasing DPI if you're using a high resolution.

I cant even get into a match the loading times are killing me
Im not even on a toaster

>>173986174
With only 12 GB of files performance can't be the problem any way. It has to be their servers or your internet.

>>173984804
Good LG is around 30%, very good LG starts at 40%. RL under 60% is quite bad but this RL sucks dicks anyway.

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this sure is fun

Imagine Hunter or crash in this games style

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>>173985709
It's there but completely toned down, have you ever played a Quake game before little nigger?
You should stop posting.

>>173985747
>Maybe they're having difficulty making pop-up work with the different classes
It would be insanely stupid to not have physics unified, the same goes for hitboxes.
It didn't look or feel silly in Q3 why should it now?
Srsly tho Q3 had the best explosive pop-up physics in the history of video-games and they are also very important for balance. Rocket-jump physics are unchained as it seems but enemy splash is not.
This literally kills the game for me, not any of the arbitrary shit people are offended by, it's one of the most important game mechanics.

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>>173987042
>Crash's abs in such HD you can see the sweat rolling down her pores

>sorlag's description is almost entirely about eating people
o-oh my

>went 14-12 in my first match
ayy
also how do i buy the backpacks?there is no buy button or anything

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>>173985709

>>173987524
store

>>173987458
ops wrong thread lmao

>>173985747
The game is already a balancing nightmare and you want to add to that another layer of insanity?
Dude.

>>173987164
>It didn't look or feel silly in Q3

Uhm...

>>173987610
He gets flung up like that because he's currently jumping. If that doesn't happen in QC then they must have changed the physics. There could still be pop up, just weaker.

>>173987745
Well, that's what the champions are at the end of the day. Yet another layer. Their hitboxes are different, how could their physics not be?

>>173985747
Yeah also the rain needs to pearl from each skin individually! Oh and this needs prone and sneak buttons, how else am I gonna snipe properly!
Realism /= fun

I'm getting a nostalgic feeling from the UT4 alpha forums.

>>173988142
>Their hitboxes are different
Aaaand dead on arrival

>pick heavy champ
>literally cannot even strafe jump to increase speed unless you're left alone for 6 seconds

DRQ6-D98F-E2CA-2H9G-F48K

frag hard lads

>>173988142
>There could still be pop up, just weaker.
That's exactly what I'm saying since the start dude. Geez.
And if they keep it at that hitscan will dominate even more. Aside from the fact that this is a deal breaker for many, it's The iconic Quake weapon and so far it's simply disappointing.

>>173985626
Ranger legit looks like a fuckin dwarf that got blown up to human height but retained dwarf proportions.

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>>173988526
Oh god I love you dude, I've checked 4 emails since start and didn't get a key.
I wanna suck your dick!

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>>173988840
Maybe it's a reference to how all the humanoid enemies in Q1 (including the playermodel) look like dwarfs because they're supposed to be stretched vertically when displayed, similar to Doom.

>>173988934
o-only if your a girl

CLIENT ERROR CLIENT ERROR DISCONNECTED CLIENT ERROR

>>173987630
I completely missed the buy part on the icons i was looking for a bug

God these temporary freezes are so fucking annoying.

>>173988993
DOS Q1 natively supports resolutions higher than 320x200 though so I really doubt it was meant to be like Doom.

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>>173989041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFmUdKLB6ic

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>>173988526
>>173988934
>see key
>copy paste
>double click on bethesda launcher already installed preemptively
>takes a while to open, then says it needs to restart to do an update
>finally click on redeem code
>it opens a fucking browser so I was wasting my time with the launcher
>I've got my login info for the bethesda site in another browser
>switch
>click on sign in
>gray screen with a load bar at the top, literally not finished even now minutes later

Good thing I'm leaving this place tomorrow and couldn't have played properly any way. I would be mad as hell if I was actively waiting for a key and then all this happened. Have fun playing.

So when i open QC for a few seconds there is a "choose your region server" screen but it goes quickly away

anyone have this problem?

also is there really no training mode and is it normal to hold space to bhop?

>>173989005
I can wear a bra and lipstick

>>173989089
I was looking for a big buy button near the loot

>>173989449
- yeah it auto detects your region
- nope just dm and tdm
- holding space to jump is one of the noob friendly mechanics of recent quake titles

>>173989271
Maybe not the whole game, but a lot of the art assets and models are. Remember, Q1's development was rocky at best and a goddamn Katamari of ideas and art at worst- scaling the game vertically does stretch some assets (push buttons, ammo boxes, etc), but others that look squished normally (the HUD font, Grunts and similar enemies, etc) end up looking much more natural and pretty much anything that looks round like all those red stained glass panes turns into a proper perfect circle when stretched to 5:4.

Has anyone loaded into a match fully?

>>173970934
Well the game will have region options otherwise there wouldn't be a server selection screen.

>>173989449
>is it normal to hold space to bhop?
There is no normal, but that was done as a crutch for entering the game, the kids are not used to intricate movement systems.

>>173971338
Use the server browser

>>173989443
P.S. Update: It literally won't load, several attempts later. Bethesda.net literally won't let me sign in at all. It seems there really is not one thing they can do right.

Im really enjoying the beta. You guys made it sound like it was complete shit last week.

>>173990127
I'm really enjoyin in in in in in in in in
>[Client error]

>>173990171
>autistic screeching over a day one error that was fixed reasonably quickly

>>173990418
>a day one error that was fixed reasonably quickly
Speak for your fucking self, m8.