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Luminous Edition

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!v51UHZBC!POUt7FJxJwrvUNHXQtUMyj8j-iMOs7gLep9UD8Ee_Bw

Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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Only the Art updated with TOG:
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Evolved: >>173223120
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Anyone willing to help Unica eat this huge baguette? It's way too long for her alone
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>faggot aggro shadows in unranked

fuck, i went into this mode to escape that bullshit.
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>>173247087
Just let Medusa do it.
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Eris is ____
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Post your face when Hearthstone's new expansion is absolute dogshit.
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So is the commander Banner good or bad?
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Lost to another shadow hehe

Take Two not busted at all right now
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>>173247243
protect and have a cute date
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NON-LEWD polls

http://www.strawpoll.me/12678043

http://www.strawpoll.me/12678037
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can someone help me make a budget Haven deck??

This is what I have to work with, I just need one win and thats it for the daily
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>>173247243
an ugly hag
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Any reason to keep the following or should I just vial it all?
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>>173247292
I don't care, just go back and talk about it in the HS thread.
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>>173247363
Haven's wincons are 2x seraph, 2x aegis, or 3x garuda. Haven is a pretty cheap class to build, but there's no good way to go full poverty on it.
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>>173247292
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>>173247363
Just try to get it in arena
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>>173247292
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>>173247087
I'll make her eat my baguette
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Thanks for the Concede, senpai.
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>>173247292
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>>173247537
I dont have anymore arena tickets but I will try to get more
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>>173247725
>>173247363
just autocraft and hope someone bricks against you.

also use beastcall aria and all your golds
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is Forte still worth crafting?
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>>173248019
Yes.
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>>173247476
>eachtar, neptits, ouro, israfil, santa, olivia, wolf, meme peddler
>vial
Nigger are you high?
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Do I spend my vials on crafting 3 Ancient Elves and an Elf Queen or 3 Cerberuses and an Eachtar? I only have 1 Eachtar out of those. I feel like Forest would me much more fun but also much weaker.
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>>173247476
Vial:
Beast Dominator
Minthe
Bloodhungry Matriatch
Imperial Dragoon
Fairy Princess
Rose Queen
Zirnitra
Nephthys
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>>173248215
Forest is alright right now, just play whatever you like.
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>Put Rowen at 1 HP with a Eachtar rush
>Get Lightning Blasted
>Refill board with Death's Breath hoping he'll play Bahamut instead of heal
>He did, the absolute madman
H-HEAR
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75404
Need a concede pls.
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>>173247332
It's retarded no matter who you pick right now. With the (mostly) shitty pool of Standard legends and golds out the winbomb slots are full of OutFuckingSkilled bullshit every time now. I went 4-1 with Haven because I got two Aegis, losing only because of one match were I got hit by turn 5 Albert into turn 6 Albert.

It's at the point where if you don't draft hyper aggro or get at least 2 win buttons, you might as well just retire immediately.
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>>173248421
Thanks, femboy.

now post tummy.
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>>173248632
seent ;)
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Forte.
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Post your cardfu before someone else does!
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>>173248776
CUNNY
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>>173248827
OHOHO
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>>173248827
>on
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How do you cheer yourself up after losing 1000 points in ranked?
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>>173248215
Forest has the highest learning curve, shadow is pretty much autopilot and requires little though
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>>173248827
We also have two pet dogs, Cerberus and Orthrus. I have to take care of them when they go into heat, too, so they can be a handful.
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>>173248140

Yeah, my bad.

First time under painkillers since i busted my leg.
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>>173249158
Some good art
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>>173248776
edgy slut
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>>173249207
Fuck off, Lunapedo
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>>173248827
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>>173249254
>master1200
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Concede please 49188
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Candelabra of Prayers doesn't work on amulets that spawn from last words, right?
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>>173248827
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>>173249506
Thanks, Luna.
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>>173249567
Yes. Only amulets played from hand are reduced by Candelabra. "played" is different than "comes into play".
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Enjoy your game, i know theres a lot of joke posts like this but seriously goodbye forever. I'm unironically going back to hearthstone id rather have my wallet robbed then continue playing this shit.
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>>173249645
SDOM
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>>173248827
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>>173249645
Anyone who uses Vania as a leader over Urias is a tremendous boy-molesting fruit and a prancing la la homo man.
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>>173246906
Is shadowverse really as good as /hsg/ makes it sound? /hsg/ sounds extremely jealous but is also mildly retarded, so I'm not sure if it is true.
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>>173248827
Jeannu for top friendu
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>>173249693
i died to grimner and then ouroboro right after.
>>173249754
no this game is complete fucking shit dont play it
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>>173248827
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which one do I choose
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I
AM
THE
MAD
CYCLONE
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>>173249754
Anything is better than HS.
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>>173249693
Are you seriously whining about someone doing 13 damage to you from an empty board?

That's it?

Lmao, you're a joke. Hearthstone had much more BS than that such as Grim Patrons or druid OTKs
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>Finally get to A3 after much struggle
>Get an animated Harnessed Glass instead of a gold reward
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>>173249693
D-shift would have just killed you instead.
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>>173249856
>just play aggro bro!
>just have a ward over 4 health on every turn after 6 bro!
You are one of the reasons why this game will never be relevant outside of japanese neet communities. Hearthstone is more popular in every other country by a wide margin. Enjoy your dead kusoge faggot kill yourself
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>>173248827
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>>173249856
Card that enabled patron got nerfed into oblivion.

What nerfs did any of the broken SV cards get? One more mana to piercing? Slightly less consistency for roach?
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>>173249998
Good argument lad, but everyone knows HS has multitudes more bullshit than SV.

Not only that, but HS is also far more "RNG" reliant with ridiculously "random x does random y to random z, random random" text all over the place.

Go shitpost elsewhere kiddo, you ain't gonna fool anyone here.
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>>173249998
No one will miss you here. Why are you sticking around this long?
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>>173249991
I would have played differently vs d shift and easily won, cant put any minions on the board vs dragon because they have the best boardclear in the game every single turn. Anyways this is my final post on this shit general. Enjoy your dead game my friends.
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>>173248827
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anyone still need the player duels achievement? 9/10
59489
emote 3 times if you need a concede
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>>173250176
Concedes don't count towards the total unfortunately.
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>>173250082
Being a different kind of kusoge doesn't make it any better as a game though.
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>>173250123
Cheers, thanks for visiting us /hsg/
Remember to buy a few hundred more ungoro packs :^)
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>>173250082
The bullshit in a different game doesn't make the bullshit in this game any less bullshit
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>Hearthstone
>hearthstone expansion
>servers down
>ofcourse
>74000 people watching kripp stuck at the log in screen
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>>173250329
He should give Blizzard the finger and play Shadowverse
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>>173249693
desu this would be fine if the bahamut at least was gone from his hand

being able to whack for nearly 3/4 your opponent's health and then nuke their board the turn after is dumb.
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>>173248827
What's the appeal of feet?
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>>173250294
Every card game ever has bullshit and "oh come on" moments. It's an inherent quality to all of them starting with the starter hand you draw and mulligans.

That said, Hearthstone is the most RNG heavy and most jewish card game out there.
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>wyrm spire doesn't change all 3 cost or lower minions to dragons

damnit, wasted time trying to get the card to work. aqua nereid into two 5/5's never
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>>173250373
No, he should become a variety streamer, or return to MMOs
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>>173250329
It was like 95k people earlier.

95k people. Think about the game he makes. It's insane.
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>>173250432
Why do you keep bringing up hearthstone in a discussion about dragon cards
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>>173250448
also, no goblin princess into two 5/5's. so disappointing
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>>173250575
The discussion started with HS vs SV

Keep up gramps.
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>>173249813
Guys help me out here
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Please concede
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>>173250753
Right.

Aegis is actually a thing in T2.
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>>173250329
>top 2 HS streams are not playing HS
>they can't even login
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What does Yurius' special japanese line to Albert translate to?
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>literally all a haven player has to do is place a ward / banish something / themis / heal / iron maiden / whatever it is to stall for a few turns before he drops aegis and the game is over

why is this allowed
it's so easy to stall ESPECIALLY for haven
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>>173250432
Maybe they do, but on a different scale. Devs intentionally making a meta this bad, and making it worse with every addon just for the sake of short games is terrible.

Make a pve mode if you that adamant about its length.
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>>173250329
>shadowverse goes down for 12 hours before new expac
>nobody bats an eye
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reposting here because i'm so fucking pissed I didn't notice the old thread maxed:

>have 15ish minutes before stepping out
>eh i can get one match in
>queue against dshift
>they're roping quite literally every turn, from turn 1
>and bm'ing
>prolly gonna lose b/c my ride will be here in 5 minutes and they're still roping
>THEY ROPED JUST TO PLAY LEVI+EVOLVE. TWICE.

it doesn't take 2 minutes to play and evolve levi on curve, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>173250958

Except the devs intentionally wanted longer games. And thats going to be the end result of TotG eventually. Shadow will move to midrange and games will be ending 7+ instead of 6-.
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>>173249693
Something about these Dragon decks is far more tilting than anything previously in the game. It's a shame because I think the inevitable post-nerf ToG meta could be quite good.
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>>173250329
Nothing wrong with minesweeper. I even start a game.
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17k vials
what do?
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>>173250795
Thanks!
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>>173251092
They don't. They said in the interview that they know that the games will be faster than they planned and if they get slower than they want, they'll nerf whatever is the cause.
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>>173251114
>win con on turn 9

Is it really any different from getting Seraph'd? Or Daria's bag of tricks? I'd rather get killed by a storm Bahamut than a long grind game where Daria decks herself out by pooping out her hand turn after turn, all the while not sure when the burn is going to take you from 12 def to 0.
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>>173251235
You might want to reread the interview
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>>173251165
w8 for the meta
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>>173251235

They said if. They intended the games to go slower but incase they don't, they'll tweak it. And that's pretty much what's happening. They didn't intentionally make a fast meta and the game would be a lot slower if not for Shadow.
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>>173251114
Could it be
>hey have nearly double your pp 4-5 turns into the game
>they can punch face for 13 from an empty board
>they play 9x board wipes
>they have the most healing
>average dragon ramps costs at least 60k vials


>
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>>173251310
Yuito Kimura: The game will be a lot slower than now and it will take more turns to finish the game, so different cards will see more play compared to the current environment.

we wanted to introduce something new, and matches that take a long time is not something we wanted from the start.

If anything, we think it’ll be faster than we’re currently expecting. Firstly, we’re expecting things to be slower – we could see it not go as slow as we’re expecting right now, but we don’t think it’ll be any slower than we’re currently expecting, and if the reason why it becomes slow is because of a particular card, then we’ll make changes to the card.
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>>173251310

You should reread it. They intend for a slower meta. They know that its probably going to go faster than they want but that doesn't mean they intentionally made it fast. They're just waiting to see what the problem cards are before they nerf it to get to the speed they want.
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>>173251592
Oh, they did. They knew perfectly what aggro blood, sword and daria were capable of in RoB. And they know what shadow can do in ToG.

The only things that escape them are how to play forest and how to make good arena,
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>>173251475
Not the same guy but I'd be less annoyed with dragon if the cards didn't all have so many plus sides for them. The amount of threats dragon puts down per turn now makes it feel like unless you just Themis it bro you can get bent and decide between if he heals back up and you lose or goes hard face and you lose.
Still not missing the sword meta just yet.
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>>173249158
win
eat
fap
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>>173251276
>>173251114
personally I think forest is the most tilting, when they have a 9 card hand you never know if your board is gonna get cleared with will, if you'll get bolted to death or if they just roach juggle you into salt
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forward !
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>tfw cucked out of a 5-0 because a dragon nigger gets dragonslayers price into lightning blast into CoC into ouroboros when i had card and board advantage
im so fucking mad right now
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>>173249158
I don't so my neighbors are probaby already reporting me to mental care for screaming after each fucking topdeck opponent have 10 games in a row.
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Need a concede guys

21792
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Tfw Cant win a single match with haven because I keep fucking up What the fuck does candleabra do?
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>>173252040

Thanks roland
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>>173247354
t.esl
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Can I play dragon without Lucifer?
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>>173252298
Yes
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>>173251529
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>draft deepwood anomaly in t2
>get excited about finally being able to see the kill animation
>never draw it once
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Remember to eat and stay hydrated before you hop into ranked.
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>>173248827
does it count if someone already posted them before this post?
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>>173252383
What does Deepwood's animation look like?
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>>173252343

What can I replace him with? Ouro?
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>>173248827
>My cardfu isn't in the OP links for high res art

Claiming Unicorn Dancer, she's the cutest damn thing
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>>173252472
zap
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>>173252472
i can't quite remember but the animation takes like 5 seconds and i'm pretty sure it involves a laser
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>0 legos from 40 packs

And i played for 6 months
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>some kid tried to meme me with pepe craft
>he didn't know I was using commander memes
OUT FUCKING MEME'D
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Fucking hate Haven so much, It keeps giving me horrible draws and it fucking sucks against EVERYTHING

God fuck this daily and fuck this craft
Sucks to play with and its worse going up against it
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>>173252663
are you me?

I literally queued against 2 pepes in a row with commander and dumpstered them both by turn 6
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>>173252472
something like this
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>>173249693
Ya misplayed hard son
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>>173252370
Time for tail examination.
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>>173252343
Israfil
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>>173252167
>>173252726

if ur the same person please delet candelabra and make a bird gangbang storm deck with some removals. you should be able to close out matches/force concedes by t6 or so
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Is commandercraft the new bannermeme?
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>>173248827
best stockings
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Post your favorite card from TOTG

Not because of its waifuness or anything, but because of how it wins you games

I'll start with mine. Wins me a ton of games, I love it for how much presence it puts on the board.
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>T2 playing as shadow
>win 4 matches, fifth game against sword
>BM him for 5 turns with 13 atk Shadow reaper
>kill him when he thinks bahamut would finally save him
Arena is so fun!
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>>173250169
Based cygames always looking out for pitbros

>>173252529
Israfil or Ouro are fine but if you're trying to do Saha shit then only Israfil would really work.
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>>173252934
I was starting to get sick of Storm Haven.
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>>173252934
*casts bloodlust*
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>>173252864
Fuck off, Medusapedos
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>>173252472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqEh6OL0OfA&feature=youtu.be

Search around a bit, has all entries + attack animation

Deepwood looks fucking great when he attacks.
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>>173252934
Aerin, beetles, elf queen. Ivy shitbomb I still cant figure out its usefulness.
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Is tempo the best forest or is roach still top?
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>>173253029
>Animated Heavenly Aegis
Truly the most awe inspiring badass in the game.
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>>173252901
Its take-two

TRYING to do a daily, But NOOOO god fucking hate this shit so much
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>>173252934
>>
>new
>pull 2x saha
>people said saha was a dumb meme outside of a meme craft so i could vial mine
>vial one copy
>tempest of the gaaawds happens
>suddenly dragon is op as fuk
>pull two lucies and israfils
>hurting for that second saha

never listening to you guys again
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https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/jcg-open-2nd-season-vol19-1st-place-zecunsuhensayingli-daria-runecraft

Is this legit?
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>>173253073
>ginger animation
hnnnng
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>>173252934
Orthrus is the 4 drop that Shadow desperately needed. Necroassassin was good but she was too conditional. Shadow is finally becoming the VALUE class that I wanted from it when I first started playing.
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>>173253103
Really? How do you make this bitch work? You actually run a neutral deck? Post it man
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>>173252431
Why are elves so fat?
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>>173253098
Oh, geeze man. When I face Haven in T2 I notice they don't really ever pull win cons unless they were lucky with stalls an aegis. I would suggest not picking Haven in that mode unless you like grindy 20 minute games where you hope to god you drafted aegis or the other person out-draws you.

Honestly make the bird rush deck and hit up unranked, that's what I do when I have haven dailies and it doesn't take long to get a win (especially if you get matches again japs playing dshift)
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>>173253203
Orthrus is still very conditional though.
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Fucking Eris tried to use bahamut on me I Summoned Aegis and then Used Call of cocytus On the baha and then Attacked her face then she just fucked off
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>>173252934

Game winner, easy +10 attack Storm
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>5-0 T2 run with blood
>all wins with Sneks
>when a dragoncuck Lightning Blasts a carrot
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>>173253178
>Melvie
no
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Holy hell, ladder is so terrible right now.

Fuck Dragon being dogshit to play against, Lunababs are much worse. It gets so fucking BORING after the 300th time.
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>>173253217
different anon but

neutral craft
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>>173252934
Ridiculously underrated card if you have the evolves for it. Can do 6 damage to face and kill a follower, or clean up the board, or a mix of the two. It's like a flexible DoD.
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>>173252934
Thane is actually busted as hell. Three free bodies with effects? What the fuck?
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>>173253294
>Methonium
https://nhentai.net/g/178931/

>>173253387
Much less so than Necroassassin. Orthrus can be played when the opponent has an empty board so you can keep piling on the damage. She's a much more aggressive card whereas Necroassassin is purely board control. She also doesn't require you to damage your board for benefit, whereas Orthrus can serve as removal AND more damage.
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>>173253085
This time around it seems everyone has their favorite and there is no absolute best. I find success in tempo IMO faster deck is better if you can keep winning. I may switch to wolfbolt if I start losing but so far tempo serves me alright.
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>>173253217
It's just a fast deck I use for dailies for classes I don't have good cards for.
You win by plopping the fat fuck on turn 4 and the opponent is usually forced to trade into it. On the occasion when they fail to remove it they pretty much lose the game right there.
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>>173253487
where your deck at bro
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fuck this game fuck eris and fuck her shitty cards
Holy shit holy shit Fuck this cunt, the only good thing that happened was that I fucked up that one baha cunt

Yeah Im totally Done with Eris, Until I buy her deck or some shit I dont fucking know
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>>173253487
>>173253808
Nice, I could use such a deck for some crafts I never play to do dailies with. Thanks.
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Is Elf Queen useful in tempo?
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>>173254058
8 mana summon a 10/10 and a minion
seems pretty retarded.

why do people play that shit again
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the skeletons from catacombs shouldn't give shadows or they need to up the cost of phantom howl to compensate for how easy they are to generate now.
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>>173252663
>>173252742
>Just play normal '''mid-sword'''
>Shit on frogmeme
Why did anyone think this was better than the old builds again?
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When are they adding trap cards?

A 5pp card that destroys the next enemy follower played would fix Bahamut. Tribunal sort of does this but they can just banish that. They could also have something that activates when an enemy attacks your leader, so storm cards are less bullshit.
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>>173254058
At least hearthbabs make it to turn 8.
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>>173253432
Cute slut.
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>>173254202
That's nothing. Hearthstone has so many retarded "do 3 random things for random damage to random units then summon something random and gain a random effect" combos now it's beyond dumb.

The game used to not be THIS bad, but it's progressively gotten more and more RNG.
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>>173254294
Because frog can fight dragon better than normal midsword
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>>173248397
I see my midrange became popular.
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>>173253818
>>173254010

This isn't refined or anything. i literally just slammed in neutrals I thought were good and knocked out my forest dailies. So there's probably better things you can put in :*)
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>>173253808
>On the occasion when they fail to remove it they pretty much lose the game right there.
One example I happened to screencap. Greedy unga (?) doesn't feel like wasting an evo on a 4pp follower. Loses the game right there.
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>>173254294
everyone experiments with weird new archetypes in the first weeks of a new set

makes it hard to judge what's actually good until people go back to high winrate decks
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>>173253509
You forgot the free wight king.
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>>173254389
how egotistical do you have to be to try and take credit for mid shadow lmao
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>>173254536
It's got thighassassin so it's his
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>Loathe playing against Dragon in RoB despite meme status
>It becomes top tier in TotG

I'd rather play vs Rune shit or even Sword
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>>173254519
>three free bodies
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>>173254536
Because i was the one posting theory deck "Zombie Apocalypse" and everybody laughed. Who is laughing now?
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>>173249998
have you tried getting good?
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>>173254197
I don't think she's objectively bad at 1 in any forest variant, sans PtP of course.
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>>173254389
Yeah I'm really liking it so far. Midrange is really hard to build for because there's so many options available to the deck. I've been trying and building so many different variants so far but adding Reapers back in has been really helpful most of all. Most midrange lists cut Reaper and honestly I'm not even sure why, hell I do it myself. Cutting out Bone Chimera has been nice too since he's pretty useless late.
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>>173254575
Dragon is way more cancerous. If they ramp up fast you pretty much lose
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>>173254691
>siegfried
b2?
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>>173254389
>>173254729
>'''''''''midrange'''''''''' shadow
Lmao unga bunga
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>>173254729
I find reaper inconsistent. If I have a full board with catacomb effects and can drop him then, great. If I draw him early game he's useless.
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I asked about my list last night and made a couple of changes (removed lucifers and sadistic, crafted and added a baha). I added Temptress for the heal but is that a bad choice since it dilutes the Bapho snek fetch?
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>>173254536
But everyone is playing 'my' mid-sword deck now too. Yep I'm the first person on Earth to think adding Luminous Mage and Grimnir into Sword decks would be good. Original decklist, do not steal.
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midrange shadow is LITERALLY auto-win against dragon
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>>173255003
Well he is like Zell. You don't drop him so early.
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Suggestions?
x2 Thane, ×2 soul conversion, and x3 skull beast are cutoff
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>>173255087
b-but dragon is invincible
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>>173254729
It's as """midrange""" as sword was, only you have a shit Zombie Alwida's and Hector instead of Alberto.

Don't delude yourself into thinking it's anything other than unga despite how fun it is
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>>173255087
Then he's sitting in my hand for four or five turns which is not good in an aggro deck.
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give a deck that can win without storm followers or direct leader damage spells.
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>>173254729
Dorothy is super cute
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>>173255003
I dropped my aggro shadow decklist down to two copies of Reaper back in RoB and found it worked fine. You can try that if you find you're drawing him too often/too early.
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Is it me or are people bming more
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Man fuck Aegis I don't want to play this slow shit. Why did they have to kill storm haven?
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>draft 3 baphomet

>not even one follower to proc it
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>>173255186
Seraph
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>>173255259
Depends on what deck you play desu
If you play dragon or something that people loathe playing against you're going to expect bm
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>>173255167
Oh yeah, I forgot that any deck that tries to actually win the game is "unga" in /svg/. So basically everything but Dirt Rune I guess.

>>173255224
Yes she is!
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>>173255186
control shadow
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>>173255259
almost every other match ive had today people have been spamming emotes. im not even playing cancer shit like ramp dragon or aggro shadow. i guess people's bullshit tolerance threshold has been broken with all the OP shit so if they happen to manage a win they take out their frustrations by mashing that emoji
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>>173255087
>>173255168
>>173255003
>/svg/ """"shadow""""" players
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>>173255254
Already do. I've been trying a bunch of different builds and this has been the most consistent for me. The only thing I want to maybe work in is soul conversion but I honestly can't find room for it.
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>>173255259
I haven't seen that much BM but more disconnects on loss. I admit some of those wins were pretty bullshitty but still.
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>>173255490
She's so lewd. I wish I could hire her.
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>Bloodfed Flowerbed + Evo'd Azazel buffed by Laura, Deadmoon Disciple, and Baphomet

20 damage in one turn that goes through wards and is literally uncounterable.

Nice game.
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>>173255528
?
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>>173252934
Luminous Mage is literally the only reason why I'm still playing this (now) p2w garbage
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>>173255579
I'm running 2 conversions in a identical build, but that's because I don't have hectors to replace them with.
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>Still no cards based on the Shades
I want that bigass monster one that Dragoncraft fights in the story, fuck
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>>173255579
You just just cut 1 skelly for 1 conversion. You can't really work in more than that into aggro.
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>>173254197
she might not be too useful now, but there is 100% of her being used in tempo decks down the road
tempo takes advantage of her ability the best of of all other decks
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>>173255714
>Deadmoon Disciple
>in Bloodcraft
think things through before you post, retard
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>>173255528

More like (((Shadow players))).
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>>173255956
He was talking about Blood's story mode, retard
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>>173255025
You have no way to win aside from snek sticking, so it's your call on Temptress. Cut another Veight for the 3rd Grimnir, you have no bat cards so there's no point in a 2 defence ward. You can keep the 3rd or replace him with a Spiderweb Imp.
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>>173256038
Nowhere in his post did he mention that mate
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>>173255168
>aggro deck
I can just flood the board with 1 card in midrange and wait for reaper's best moment. Like dropping him after death's breath, when enemy tries to clear wards and feed him.
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>>173254446
>owl of balance
>10/7 on turn 5
can't make this shit up
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>>173254474
>hahah my 40k dust deck beat this scrub's budget 8k list!!
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>>173254929
B1
skipped RoB and came back for ToG so I have no Alberts, no Gawain's, no nothing
climbing the ladder is fucking gruesome and i always draw shit
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>>173253808
Haha oh wow, what the hell?

This was just nasty as shit.
Everything I dropped was constantly buffed, enemy eris had a lot of banishes, themis and so on but it was no use, I just put new big fats on the board non stop
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>Open a pack
>Get your favorite card, animated
Which card is it, /svg/? Which card being animated makes you happy?
>>
friendly reminder that if you cant climb in a game that literally has a crutch that prevents you from dropping out a division, youre fucking terrible.
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>>173256094
What's a good midrange list? I have pretty much everything for it except death's breath, a thane, and a third eachtar.
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>>173256052
Okay, I'll go with the 3rd Grim and maybe try without the sexy vamps for a few games. I also have 3x Bloody Mary that I thought about combo-ing with Dire Blood but then I feel like that's too many different things I'd be trying to accomplish in one deck...
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What deck is best against dragon right now?
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>>173254323
Yeah, they sure do.
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>>173256362
Mid sword, Aegis haven, any face deck
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>Crystalia Tia
>Sun Oracle Pascale
>Roland the Incorruptible (Animated)
>Skullfane
>Alexander
>Dark Angel Oliivia
>Bahamut x2

I got 8 leggos from this reroll. Is this a keeper? I want to play dragons, and I read Bahamut is great.
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>>173256362
Aggro shadow, aegis haven, frog sword, maybe midrange shadow.
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>>173256314
Mary cblood has pretty much half aggro, definitely don't mix the two builds.
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>>173256429
>>173256412
Aegis it is. Any recommended builds?
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>>173255731
>Shadow
>P2w
Sword as a whole is more expensive than Shadow decks are on average.

>>173256297
You don't need 3 Eachtars.
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>>173254323
>Who goes tharrr
>I'm in charrrge now
>Fly poly
>x marks the spot
>blood and plunder
>LOKTAR OGAR
>>
Ding dong
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>>173256427
Bahamut, Olivia, and Tia are good. Jury's still out on Roland. You got four good leggos and a couple you can vial to build stuff. I'd say it's a decent roll.

Dragon is balls to the wall expensive. You need a ton of other leggos to make it work.
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>>173256245
Albert, Saber of Levin.

I only play Sword in ladder, so it was pretty exciting to pull an animated one from the first RoB pack I opened.
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>>173256427
>I want to play dragons
I think you should aim for fortes or sibyls anon
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>>173256579
What's a dragon deck look like? I'm not familiar with the meta.
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>Hectar alone can kill Bahamut
Holy SHIT
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>>173256541
What do you run for midrange shadow then?

>>173256703
It looks like 60K vials or more.
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>>173255490
Valhalla was one of the only good things to come out of 2016
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>>173256245
monika, she's a cutie and she wins me so many games.
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Discard dragon is unironically Tier 1.
Screenshot this post.
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>>173256427
yeah it's a good reroll
skullfane is easy vials
pascale isn't very good right now but has potential down the road so I'd keep it unless you really need vials
everything else is pretty good
8 legos is a really good amount too
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>>173254323
Don't talk about a game you've never played.
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>>173256471
Okay, thanks for the insight!
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>>173256730
So, build a bullshit deck like Aggro Bats, spam matches, liquefy everything, and have the deck done in 3 years?
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>>173256827
Replace aggro bats with aggro skeletons and you're good.
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>>173252934
basically wins the mirror alone
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>>173256749
Shut the fuck up, katawa shoujo-esques.
Go to the fuck hell.
>>
>go first
>sacred plea, unica, grimnir
>enemy concedes

Aggrobabs btfo
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>>173256930

remember when they translated the effect wrong?
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>>173256749
isn't that an /agdg/ game

sometimes good things come out of this board
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>>173256703
The best dragon deck right now is also the most expensive one used in this meta. Most people playing dragon are playing a budget version of it.
Storm is pretty cheap and desu oliva and 2 bahamuts are already really good for ramp in the early ranks.
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>>173256703
It's incredibly expensive. You shouldn't look to build Dragon if you are new. A Ramp Dragon build with 15 legendaries is not uncommon.
Your only option would be to build Face Dragon (that only needs Forte for expensive cards), since Discard Dragon is complete shit.
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>>173256796
post dick or stop posting dragoncuck
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>>173256541
that's because you only need Eachtar, Immortal Thane and Cerb for mid, and Orthus on top of that
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>>173256730
This is a list an anon posted yesterday

>>173256749
I wouldn't say that. There were some others.
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>>173257005
Yeah like how good are memes.
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>>173257029
>face dragon
is that the midrange dragon that just pumps out those 5-7pp storm cards?
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>>173256721
>death's grasp alone can kill bahamut and use less shadows than hector
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>>173256993
i wish the wrong effect was the right one

>b-but then it would be trash
who cares, every class got at least a trash lego this expansion
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>>173256892
What is Aggro Skeletons, and is it cheap for a new player to build?
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>>173256946
>katawa shoujo-esques.
But this has gameplay, and kit kat shoujo doesn't

>>173257005
ye
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>don't kill the Luminious Mage
Thanks for the free 7/8 Frontguard
I think it's about insane as Lightning Blast as a silver card.
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>>173257202
Both of dragon's legos are extremely good
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>>173257151
Yes, though it still runs a lot of small drops. I don't know how well it's working in ToG since that build got nothing new. Aina is too inconsistent and can end up a 1/5 in some matchups.
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>>173257121
>>173256730
Fucking shit wrong image

>>173257071
Orthrus is a silver card and isn't hard to get a hold of. The doggo sisters are staple in both aggro and midrange. If you can't get Eachtars and Thanes you can still just play aggro and use them.

>>173257254
>But this has gameplay,
Alright nigga I like VA-11 Hall-A but you're being real fucking generous with this statement.
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>hamsa sleeves

kinda want those
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>>173257151
Yes.
Pic is a sample list from GameAI (pre ToG, so probably outdated).
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>>173257247
It's decently cheap. You need three legendaries at minimum (three cerberus. I also run two Eachtar but that's optional.) It's not dirt cheap but it's incredibly strong and consistent.

Mine is >>173255579. Replace expensive cards as you see fit, it'll probably still work.
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>Belph's evolved art is just taking her boots off
Why does Blood have so many foot sluts?
>>
Is there a joke behind the gourmet emperor and his carrot?

Is it something from GBF? Don't play that.
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>>173257295
that's what I mean, ouroboros should've remained unkoboros so everyone would be equal
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>>173257319
eh, i'll probably start building it since I only need forte and i can probably scrape together a decent one for missions. do you have a deck?
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>>173256162
>albert sword
>anywhere close to 40k vials

lmao?
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>>173257330
>but you're being real fucking generous with this statement.
it was my goty tied with Furi. DOOM was great tho
>>
arriet is underrated as fuck
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>>173257396
Because Vampy herself is all about footjobs
When your leader is, followers will do the same
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>>173256230
I'm glad my deck helped you.
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>>173257548
she's pretty good, saved my bacon in a few T2 matches
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>>173257456
>Is it something from GBF?
Nothing from SV comes from GBF. Every card is from RoB, except for the recent alternate arts for Quickblader and Cavalier, which are from some other game.
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>>173257548
winmore card
>>
>play hag
>banish 10 followers
>never let luna have anything on the board past turn 5 when lion cleans house.
>thank them for the free win
what a great feeling
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>>173253808
this looks neat as fuck, i'll give it a shot later
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>>173257658
Or turn 6\7 Israphil otk.
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>not appreciating big titted Lilims
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>>173257373
Mind posting a bigger image? I can't quite make out some of the names.

Three legendaries should be too bad to craft, if I get rid of some golds for classes I won't play. Guess I'll start working on it now, thanks for the info
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>>173257365
>Dragon Emisarry
why do people run this joke of a card in the first place?
since it can tutor 7 cards in this deck (much more in ramp dragon) you're essentially using 2pp to use 1pp less in the future

someone redpill me on it because it just seems like retarded, unnecessary deck cycling to me
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>>173257740
dragonfags need not to apply
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>>173257696
Except the part where he plays Immortal Thane, Eachtar, Prince Catacomb, and you themis the board three times and there's still four followers.
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>>173257821
>Israphil
>Dragon
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>>173257396
I want to lick her feet
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I like "midrange" shadow more than aggro because both run out of cards quickly.
Eactar and Death Breath are much better topdecks than a Goblin or Skull Beast.
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>>173257330
I think you can make your deck better by dropping skull beast and adding 3 unica
right now you only have three 2 drops that can trade into an enemy and skull beast will rarely be in your opening hand
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>>173257782
gets bigger cards out on the field earlier, combined with ramp and you can look at some nasty normally 8-9pp monsters played on the 6th turn or some stupid shit.

i was iffy on it first but after using it for a bit it I can see it being useful
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>>173257782
>merlin
Why do people run this joke of a card in the first place?
Since it can tutor 7 cards in this deck (much more in d shift) you're essentially using 4pp to spellboost 1 more then in the future.

someone redpill me onit because it just seems like retarded, unnecessary deck cycling to me.
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>>173257905
Israfil is neutral
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>>173253808
What should I replace Gabriel with?
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Fucking nerf Grimnir that fucking shit. Even aggro is running him now.
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>>173257927
You make a good point, I'll give it a shot.
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>>173258031
olivia, arriet, or goblin mount
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>>173257860
the netdecks don't play thane for some reason, death's breath got hit by themis and eachtar got cleared by a second lion.
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>>173257782
It's used to tutor Seabrand and, mainly, Forte. At 7pp, when those cards become stronger, you can play either just by using Emissary, so the +1pp doesn't matter. Also, playing this pre-turn 5 and pulling Forte allows you to drop Forte on turn 5 for huge burst.
This specific build also plays DoD, which I normally don't like or recommend, because it can hurt you when you really need a Storm follower to close the game out, but it still works to deal with wards since they really fuck over this deck.
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Anyone else having connection issues right now? Can't connect to any multiplayer games. Shit just keeps loading.
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>>173258031
Gabriel has been power creeped by arriet.
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>>173257954
wouldn't you rather want to have unicas/blazing breaths or something than this to deal with early game? it's useful of course when you're 5pp and above, but it's not like dragon has problems in this game once they actually get going, so this'd be a dead play during your second turn should you mulligan into it

>>173257960
that's a retarded comparison and you know it

>>173258219
I mean it's a face deck, why you you want to use a tutor that isn't guaranteed for what you want and doesn't leave a body like maid leader?
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>>173257541
My GotY 2016 was either SMT4A or Mecha Ritz. Yes I know Mecha Ritz came out in 2015 fuck off.
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>>173248827
claimed
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This auto deck has won me alot of games Haven auto deck
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>Rowan raises the white flag

Is there anything more satisfying than seeing a ramped up dragon play Fervor?
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>>173257474
>>173257319
>>173257151
One thing that's been working pretty well for me is a midrangy list with carrots, all 3 of dragon's good 4 cost followers, sibyls, fortes, topping off at x2 oros.

I only have one phoenix rider so I can't try it but I bet a more aggro version capping at x3 fortes x3 riders would probably be good too.
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>>173258621
I wonder if, while fucking her, you'd start feeling your own penis inside yourself
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>>173258847
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>>173258260
it's not exactly powercreep

arriet is only better at what gabriel does for followers with 5 or more attack. she shines the most on followers with effects on attack though.
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>>173258801
That's essentially Storm Ramp, which is a perfectly valid build but no longer aggro/mid-range.
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>>173258847
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>>173258740
Playing against Dragons with very obviously bricked hands. That dude played 3 cards that whole game.
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>>173256162
>mfw I pulled 3 alberts in one day during the first week of RoB while /svg/ was crying like cucks at having to craft him
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>>173257779
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>>173258847
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>>173258847
I'm perfectly okay with this.
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>>173258847
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What do you do against blood snakes if you don't have a full board wipe?
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>>173258335
trade off at that point IMO. unica is a 2/2 with a potential to heal 2, but most aggro decks won't let her stay up long enough for her value to kick in. you could forgo that and see if you can get a high pp card earlier.

I'm pretty sure some decks use it as a fetch card too, mostly the aggro/midrange dragon decks
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This card is fucking amazing

Your bats trading with enemy followers can easily get her damage in the double digits if you have an evo point
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>>173257782
I think the benefits are
a) getting a use out of leftover mana instead of floating it
b) deck thinning
c) playing something a turn earlier than otherwise possible can help you stagger your plays better

But I don't actually like it either.
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>>173259168
Don't put him into Vengeance until you know you can kill him this or the next turn before he gets to attack you with snakes
If he plays Blood Moon then you're fucked lol
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>>173258847
Would having your own penis inside you be gay?
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>>173259168
just themis it bro
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>>173259259
He uses blood moon, so yeah.
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>>173257247
>>173257779

Depending on how new you are you don't even need Cerberus. There is a 7 play point burn card that you can play instead for the low ranks. By low I mean D-A. You can start playing an aggro shadow deck and run wild for hundreds of games until the competition starts needing you to play leggos, and by then you should have the vials.

The most important thing in a low ranked aggro deck is to just play on curve. Rabbit Necromancer will do more work for you than a Cerberus will.
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>>173258964
I'm not talking about ramping up to play genesis dragons. I'm talking about playing actual low cost followers to maintain board control and the most expensive cards in your deck are pheonix/forte.
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>When you drop a sweet pepe on the board and evolve him
>when they have to blow 2 scripture on your palace fencers otherwise its lethal
>when you drop 2 forge weaponry on pepes head
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>>173259264
If you swap bodies with a girl and have sex with her, is it gay?
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>>173258945
It is a power creep though Arriet allows for OTK and more game winning plays. Arriet is even stronger than Gabriel being a 4/5, she even heals the follower.
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>>173259192
Unica is almost never used to heal; she's run under the assumption as a 2/2 ward in most matchups.
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>>173259421
Only if you would fuck yourself in the ass.
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>>173259401
What happens when they play turn 4 tribunal?
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>>173259195
>bats

I'd rather just hit face with memes.

>>173259343

Remove the amulet. Consider Execution if the ToS/Aegis and Blood Moon decks are swarming your bracket.
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>>173259401
>When you Death's Breath a Frog Sword and he doesn't have Cyclone Blade
Thank fuck I my ass was clenched during that turn.
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>>173257330
Tweaked it around a little bit but I might go to your build if I'm finding myself low on shadows. I just love phantom howl.
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>>173259401
>when he drops pepe on t3
>and spends every subsequent turn trying to baby this dumb frog and clear your board
>still gets destroyed anyways
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>>173259401
>when your pepe's attack and defense go into double digits
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>>173256749
>shitty meme pandering pixelshit VISUAL NOVEL made by starving communist apes
2016 was a TERRIBLE year.
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>>173259541
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>>173259541
>what if x happens on x
Hope it doesnt hit pepe and if it does adjust strategy
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16105
Can a nigga get a daily?
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42981

Concede pls
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>haven mission
>make a birb gangbang deck and toss in 1x aegis for extra spicy memes
>other guy plays roland
>he bm's
>he plays test of strength
>mmmyesss
>HEAVEN REBUKES YOU
>open pack w/ mission gold
>pull a second Aegis

So what's the best real deck for these immortal fuckers and can I combine them with Grails?
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Anyone wanna fight my autodecked Haven deck?? Its actually really good, Im on a 5 win streak with it
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>>173257247
Have the cheapest I could make the deck, you're missing reapers, howls and cerbs as mandatory golds/leggos and then there's quasher and eachtar as optional extras.
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Lets be real, pepecraft is about as consistent as atomy
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>>173259861
>Playing ToS outside of Haven when Aegis exists
I bet those got pulled from the deck real fast after that.
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Switched to banishcaust haven from ramp dragon and I'm winning much more often
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>>173259783
Thank you Vampy
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>>173252032
holy fuck please be real
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>>173260063
list?
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>>173259809
Thanks friend
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>>173259401
>when you have medium buffed pepe
>they clear your board down to just pepe so no lethal
>when rowen plays something sybil evo and heals
>you turn pepe into a 12/9 and smack their face for lethal
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>>173259195
Her voice gets a bit annoying when she's just nonstop screaming though
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>>173249228
Get well soon anon!
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>>173259595
I would try to put attendant I there if I were you. Turn 3 attendant and turn 4 necro is great. Maybe - 1 howl, breath, or lurching
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>when your pepe is at 48/20
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>>173260354
that's not possible
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>>173260327
I actually just swapped the necros for gob princesses.
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>>173260047
That's if you fall for the retarded meme of making pepe your only officer and running 3x t2 do nothing but lose tempo conscrips.

If you build it with other early game establishing shit and with body-buffing commanders, albertos AND pepe, it performs pretty well. Since you don't automatically concede if you T3 pepe and get Elf May'd or Tribunal'd on T4 or never draw your pepes and only have buff spells/amulets w/o cheap bodies to throw them on

>>173260054
Yeah I felt really bad for him, he was running Gaywine which I also have and I'm working on a commandercraft deck too so I feel for him trying to make it work... but using Test like that in an Aegis meta and ESPECIALLY against Haven is just asking for problems
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>>173260354
I too enjoy playing against beginner AIs.
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>>173260354
better post your Pepe or I'm calling bullshit
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>buff your pepe
>have lethal
>decide not to end the game and keep buffing your pepe
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>>173260289
There wasnt a single card in this game who's voice didn't annoy me at some point

Vania's jap voice got unbearable
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>>173253504
This is one of my T2 MVPs with that out of nowhere reach
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>when your pepe gets beyond 255 which is the highest integer the game can handle and it rolls over back to 0 causing the game to glitch out giving you infinite gold
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>>173260594
>pixie mischief
>swordcraft player: thinking...
>connection has been lost
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>>173260054
I don't even like Test of Strength in Haven, it's a really awkward card.

>>173260327
Not him but I fucking hate Attendant. It's damn near useless if you can't kill it and no one is going to kill it outside of a board wipe or at a point where the Lich is no longer a threat.
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>>173260694
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WHERE IS YOUR AEGIS NOW, HAG?
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>>173260228
>when you have all 3 pepes on board and win
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>>173260743
That's what necroassassin and soul conversion is there for. I wouldn't run him without both of them.
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>>173260884
>tfw no "mirror" card so you can have 5 pepes
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>>173260896
I understand that, but I don't like having him just for his interaction with those cards. He's too contingent upon them to be useful.

>>173260870
>Octodad
What
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What cards will the nerfhammer hit the next month?
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>>173259401
>when you dont even draw pepe
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Whatever happened to the masters top 1000 rewards? Did that thing end in February? I didn't see any news post for March and nothing for April now
>>
75346
Need a concede please.
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>>173260998

it trades really well, and if they don't deal with it, it just keeps healing.
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>>173261092
I know right. I'm pissed because I've started playing more and I'm getting nothing for it.
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>>173259401
>when you cyclone blade a bahamut
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>>173260116
To the right is 3 themis, 1 olivia and 2 aegis'.
It's pretty unoptimized, I'm open to suggestions.
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>>173261009

grimmir and zell probably.

bone guy maybe.
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>open poverty pack
>don't expect anything but vials
>see this
I'm pretty happy. I might craft 2 more and play haven again.
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should i dust erasmus
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I am master but still suck at take2. Such an rng fiesta.
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>>173261347
I got 3 and ive ended up dusting one, srsly fuck 12 turn games every single match.
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>>173261151
They messed up, they gotta make sure to have masters rewards every month.

It really gets people playing.
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>>173261393
I did, since you can just use the 3pp 9 enhance spell that can summon him. Then I pulled 3 Gingers.

At least they won't be relevant until the next expansion

But yeah you can go ahead and dust him, since he's terribly slow and by T9 you want to be using your Dshift or Darias or w/e.
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>>173259401
>when they get your pepe down to 1 def
>well of destiny luckily boosts that pepe
>you drop 2 forges on him
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>>173261393
No, next expansion ginger will be tier1.
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>>173249254
how about posting some then?
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Anyone have a commander craft decklist?
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Playing seraph haven, and not enough money to buy Aegis, the increasing amount of aegis player is a bliss.

Where is your god, when you place a useless 9 cost cards, while my seraph is ready to win the game.
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>>173259401
Does Tsubaki work against Pepe? I'm sure it doesn't, and I've been meaning to try it but I havent got the chance to test it.
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Someone post commander memes, I want to play a sword deck that isn't pepe
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>>173261760
Tsubaki has to target.
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>>173261760
>can't be targeted
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>>173261760
you can't target ambushed followers.
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>>173261749

When you face dragon they can just blast your seraph away. They can't do anything against Aegis.
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>>173260870
>2 Kaguya
madman
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>current state of /hsg/
And you thought tog was bad on legendaries
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Insane suicide control deck with 3 belphegor. 2pp followers are wards only so airjammer pulls wards 100%. Stay alive with wards and black death mask.

https://youtu.be/66jJhgG7ZX8
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>>173261924
>2 FREE PACKS
>1 FREE GOLD DINOSAUR CARD
HOW CAN SHADOWVERSE COMPETE?
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>>173261851
There is almost no dragon in B rank.
B0 is full of sword, blood and haven.

And aegis won't prevent me to be killed by blood at turn 5.
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>>173261981
why is she spraying shit from her back?
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>tfw can't decide whether to buy standard or totg packs
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>>173261924
Do blizzard even post the drop rates?
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>tfw you get lucky but unlucky at the same time
Do I vial for dragon memes?
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>orthrus misses shadow reaper while its at 1/1
>hits a bone chimera
>reaper grows next turn
>take 5 face damage

>have 6 shadows turn 6
>no deaths breath anywhere to be found
>eat a phantom howl next turn

Feels like I got outskilled I guess.
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Is jolly rogers bugged to only give bane?
I have never seen him get rush or ward.
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>face dragonfaggot
>keeps healing
>no more hope of winning
>he starts spamming emotes

I HATE ROWEN NOW
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Does Aegis only work in those slow-ass grinder decks where you just heal and spam removal until you can drop him? What about having a storm haven deck with Aegis on the top end and maybe something like Iron Maiden and Radiance?

>>173262108
For some reason a lot of people don't realize in the official art she has sashes and confuse the sashes with wolf tails.
>>173262156
They will have to in May, due to some law in china. Although they could always change the drop system to look good in asia and continue to fuck over NA/EU. I looked at the pack opening thread on lebbit and MANY people who pre-ordered for $50 got like 1 legend and a few shitty epics which was a good deterrent from me wanting to ever spend cash on that game again.
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>>173262293
I only ever get rush on empty boards when playing t2
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>>173260694
What what the fuck, does this actually happen? Please respond. I have to know.
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>>173262293
I've seen bane and ward but never rush

So they work
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>>173262108
>insane suicide
Death by diarrhea sounds like an insane suicide method to me
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>>173262175
Thanks Forte & Urias!

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>>173262131
never buy standard. the % of usable cards is shit compared to tog/rob. just craft what you want from it
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>>173260742
wowowow how rude, real men kill followers and they do it with other followers no spells allowed
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>>173262630
The problem is how much I still need from standard

So much, fuck
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>>173262381
no, there was a video with Unica having some thousand attack if I don't remember wrong
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>>173260694
Just use cheat engine to make 6 gorillion golds, it works.
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Can you get reported for roping until concede? At this point I have quests I simply can't complete.
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>>173262850
No such quests exist
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>>173262850
please dont bully the japanese salarymen
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>>173262579
Thanks Urias & Erika!

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I feel like Cygames has to "do" something else to make people play more.

Just take two and grinding score for an emblem and sleeves isn't enough.
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Have you taken out the trash today, anon?
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>>173262815
Dont listen to this retard.
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>>173248827
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>there are people in this thread
>right now
>at this present moment
>who don't think Dragon is overpowered cancer
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>>173263120
How necessary is meme dealer for this deck? I only have 2
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man, this thread is slow. wonder why..
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>>173263269
Do you have any Belphegor?
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>>173263283
Ded gaem.
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>>173263269
3 meme dealers and 3 belphs is best. You could use the 2 meme 2 baphomet variant instead.
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>>173263283
>shit meta that's pretty much shadow aggro/ramp dragon or lose
>everyone stops playing

really makes me think
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>>173263315
Luckily I got 2 from packs
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>>173263269
Two is good enough. You need 3 Belphegor though.
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>>173262932
Win 3 with sword or forest.
No roaches.
No Albert.
No Fangblade.
No Tsubaki.
No Roland.
Not crafting any of them.
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What the fucjlk, who thought Lightning burst in T2 was okay. Dragon faggot just won because of banishing my board on turn 10 and 11
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>>173263283
It used to be really populated a couple weeks ago
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>>173263418
More players than last month concurrent, it's slow because our thread is made up of HSbabs.
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>>173263283
something happened on hearthstone?
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>>173263028
Thanks Urias!

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>>173263418
>aggro sword and blood
>game blooms
>aggro shadow is suddenly a thing after 3 expansions
>people quit

Really activates my neutrons
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>>173263442
just made a random neutral deck and win games, not hard
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>>173263474
:^)

yeah we'll see what its like at the end of this month
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>>173263418
>>173263546
http://steamcharts.com/app/453480
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>>173263569
I'm AA and facing masters players in unranked.
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78189

Need a concede, thanks
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>>173263283
HScucks will be back in a week or two don't worry.
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>>173263546
The thing though is that meta allowed all sorts of aggro decks. You had three aggro decks.

With all of dragons removal and healing now, only Shadow has a chance of winning because of followers like prince catacomb

if it wasn't for that one card, aggro would have probably been killed this meta
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Haven has the most fun cards of all crafts desu
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There's any hope for Sneks or can I vial them?
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>>173263574
Once everyone who plays both hs/sv realizes that the new expansion didn't actually save the game and now it's even more costly to compete (2x class legendaries, neutral legendaries, need 2x of many epics and the pack rate is like 1 legend per 40 and 1 epic per 10), a ton of good cards just got rotated to the bullshit mode, etc. they'll come back. So I give it about a week for the honeymoon peroid to wear off.
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>>173264126
Baphometsneks are definitely viable unless the opponent is haven with themis or frog with cyclone
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Last chance, someone give me a budget sword list that can actually reliably win in unranked against masters or I'm roping.
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>>173247292
As someone who has never played HS, what, exactly was it that is terrible about it? Seems like it's the frontrunner of digital TCGs/CCGs.

Also, can someone post a neutralcraft deck? I want to play some memes on unranked.
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>BLUEST WATER!

Water isnt blue you dumb ginger
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>>173263659
>masters
You say that as if there is a difference between a master netdecker and A netdecker, it's pretty much the same shit but the first have more time or are neets
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Can someone tell me why some haven play Mainyu ?
I think leno, Protectoress or even Rabbit Healer are way better.
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>>173263283
>this thread is slow

Is it though?
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>>173264258
pepe, dude
unreliable but it works when you get the pepe

>>173264326
It's not terrible, but it's very jewish and they are beyond stingy with giving you anything for free. They even RAISED prices recently.

It is very polished though, since it's Blizzard. And since it's Blizz it automatically has a gigantic audience too.
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>>173264334
>what is food coloring
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>>173264414
Mainyu fucks Dshift.
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>>173263447
They should've made Lightning Blast gold and that dumb discard AoE silver just to balance arena.
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If you are to believe the actual ingame rankings by wins
Shadow (582) > Blood (529) > Dragon (457) > Forest/sword/Rune (they're all at about 370) > Haven (322)
>tfw you live the day to see haven be the absolute dogshit craft that it is
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>it's a haven banishes dingdong so you don't draw dis/rider and lose game episode
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>>173264334
it's fantasy anon, their water may be blue who knows
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>>173264414
It doesn't get removed by things like Zombie Party so you do get to use it to trade early.
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>>173263134
t. cygames
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>>173246906
luminous sergeant is not amused by your performance
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>>173263485
13421

15/20 private rupie bonus! passing, same room til 20/20~
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>tfw like 15k vials short of the haven deck I want to play
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>>173264245

Or Ramp dragon, in other words the most popular decks, it's a niche even against rune at this point
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>>173264334
No, but the sky is.
Do you know reflection?
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>>173264414
Mainyu forces someone to actually touch it for it to be removed the first few turns against every class except Elf. It's better against DS too which is the only reason to play Storm at this point.
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>>173264525
It's been shit at every point of the game's life except DE.
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>>173247087
we could eat that baguette together!

>>173263136
patrician taste
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>3x Walfrids

What do I put him in? Just a standard deck with lots of 'summon an x' soldiers?
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Is support cannon good?
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>>173264772
>Mainyu forces someone to actually touch it

show me on this doll where
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>>173264496
>>173264772
If I knew it earlier.
DShit forced me to not play followers (unless for killing the opponent follower), until I use seraph, but it only allow them to kill me turn 8 instead of turn 7.
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>>173264414
It can't be banished, baldy'd, full-swing'd, scorch'd, salamander'd (directly at least), zombie party'd, etc. Followers or heavy aoe spells are the only way to get rid of it.
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>>173265019
Nah too slow even with gawain
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>>173265019

If it was a 3pp card maybe
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*stabs you*
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Durandal is the biggest bullshit in the entire game
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>>173265019
Mainly against Haven, where the craft is slow enough to get meme'd on with le turn 5 do nothing.
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>thinking
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>>173264424
Do you have a list? Problem is I only have 2 front lines, 0 Albert and 0 Lecia.

>>173264397
What matters is card quality. If they've dedicated the time to climb to masters, they have the time to have a better deck. I can't compete.
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>>173265149
also random effects like tribunal/wotf/may ect
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>>173263978
Thanks, needed a victory for a daily
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>>173263028
>182KB
MY EYES
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>>173265335
Durandal is quite far from anything close to bullshit
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>>173264175
its funny you talk about costly decks when the best deck in Shadowverse at the moment comes in a nearly a whopping 70k vials

And is nearly half way comprised of leggos
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>>173265304
>>173265203
>>173265351
Then is pepe the only decent sword deck right now?
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>>173265425
Hi D rank
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>>173265357
>people don't netdeck
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>>173265354
Doing gods work anon
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>>173265468
t. Aegis shitter
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>>173264014
>we want faster games
>kills aggro
>we want slower games
>add insta-win cards to several crafts so no game can go slower or else they get to play their insta-wins
>game is now always decided by turn 5 or 6, anything longer is just dragging out the execution

Jesus fucking Christ Cygames you have no idea what you want do you?
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>>173265335
lmao
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>>173265463

Aggro sword is still better than Pepe
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>>173265584
What does the list look like?
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>>173265507
Where did I claim that people do or don't netdeck? Please read posts before responding to them.
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>Draft 2 Hectors and 1 Skelly Prince on T2
Oh boy it's spooky time
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>>173265335

Run execution Havencuck
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>>173265570
Blame aegis and haven for existing. If it didnt then nobody would bother playing aggro and would just stick to midrange
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So sick of these drooling retards who spend half an hour on turn 4 as though there's a plethora of options.
This shit isn't chess hurry the fuck up.
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>>173265463
Frogcraft is okay when the other player fails to draw any indirect way of removing followers, but it's still meme-tier.

Aggro Sword is still mostly solid. Craft is honestly the most practically solid craft and will always have a presence in the meta. Albert is the primary lego you need to do well, though, so you'll need to have an Albert or two.
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>>173265463
albert sword aka "midrange" (only albert with maybe one another commander tops, usually 2-3 luminous) and the classic aggro/face sword (that one that also runs multiple buffing commanders), the classic midrange with aurelia and stuff is imo worse but still probably better than pepe
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>>173265783
>implying I don't browse the net and do other things while playing
lmao kid
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>>173265783
>5 minutes thinking to just Baldy+Evo to remove my two followers
Yeah I'm sure thinking of that play was a real brain buster
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>>173265817
>>173265831

Got some good decklists?
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>get dragon player down to 1 hp
>ouroborous heal that was on the board
>saha + luci evolve clear board
>back at 8 hp
Disgusting.
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>>173265203
>cannon isn't tagged as a commander like banner
>can't get reduced by gaywine

>>173265439
i mean yes, that's a very expensive deck (not unlike wallet warrior). that has absolutely nothing to do with HS being ultra-jews with their 5-card packs, removal of adventures, increasing pack costs and abyssmal drop rates + requirement to have a lot of legendaries and epics w/ the new expansion.

ive been playing sverse for maybe 3 weeks and with just $50 between prebuilts and packs on top of the 40 free packs you get (and another 40 packs from doing elite AI and Private Matches) I can play way more decks than I could with $50 in hearthstone. i can't even introduce friends to HS because you need to either buy so many packs or just get shit on with your basic decks that anyone who tries it out on my rec quits after a week.
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>>173264758
The sky's actually purple.
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>>173265974
Sounds like you need a demonic strike in your deck
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>>173265927
Requesting some good sword decks too please
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>we live in a meta where using soul dealer and playing in vengeance is an actually good option
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>>173264758
The sky is actually green. It's the sun that is leaching out the yellow with its solar rays and giving you the illusion that it's blue.
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Do any of you have an american Itunes account? I would like to download the american version of a game im playing on the side, and the canadian version is Kill, so is anyone willing to let me login download it and then log out
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>>173266294
>implying color doesn't only exist as a psychological concept
>>
Daily reminder that opening packs by hand increases your chance at legendaries compared to skipping the animation.
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Astaroth's Reckoning is a ton of fun
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Updated ToG lego tier with commentary

Top tier (suggested to create):
Sibyl and Ouroboros - and thus ramp dragon became a total pain in the anus. Even worse - they can cure.
Aegis - combined with test of strength it's one of the most infuriating moves of the game.
Eachtar - transformed midrange shadow into a winrate juggernaut.
Israfil - damage to all followers + face AND heal. Fuck this card to hell.
Maelstorm Serpent - combined with blood moon and baphomet it's a pretty damn bullshit move early game. Unless you're playing against haven that is.
Belphegor - strong and low cost, draw two cards and can act as vengeance enabler. You can even use blood moon and simply draw without receiving damage. Dire Bond begone.

High tier (not a bad idea to create at least one if you must):
Elf Queen - the recovery can save your life specially against aggro/midrange. Only one is required. More reliable than fairy beast at least.
Roland - very strong against OTK roach, silver bolt, aegis and even dshift (if you're lucky). Not very efficient against dragon and shadow though so wait for the next expansion. Maybe.
Zeus - ward, bane and storm. Sadly 10 cost.

Mid tier (probably worth creating if you're into that):
Gawain - act as a weaker version of Merlin that has no draw. The enchance is actually a good feature. Might be pretty cool in a hand full of commanders otherwise not so useful.
Hulking giant - the spells and effect protection is great but the fact you discard your earth sigils can be really bad. Very strong against dshift.
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>>173265638

It usually peaks at 6 with Alwida, I use tsubaki to deal with stronger cards in case I can't deal the lethal at turn 6, 7
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>>173266280
>we live in a meta where there is no depth and everything is just a coin flip
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>>173266294
>the sun is leeching yellow by showering it with light
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>>173266480
Yup.

Also: Opening them ONE BY ONE increases your odds because of how it modifies the pity counter after every instance of the pack opening screen.
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>>173266539
Cont.

Low tier (not worth creating at all):
Dark Jeanne - damage all followers and buff attack. Can be used in a storm haven deck against aggro opponents. Other than that... who knows.
Minthe - she's a death tyrant enabler basically. Can be fun to use sometimes.
Ginger - ever imagined to summon all your legos in one single turn? Now you can. Chances are you're getting bahamut'ed though.
Deepwood Anomaly - turn 8 do nothing wincon that will definitely be removed unless your opponent has the shittiest hand. Or you can simply bring white wolf and silver bolt his face away.
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>better heals than havencraft
>better spells than runecraft
FUCKING KEK
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plz hlp

53207
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>>173266676
I wanna watch Forte jerk off
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>>173266769
I want Vampy to jerk me off with her feet
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>>173266541
Fangblades are musts for shit like guardian haven and dragon.
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>>173266769
I wanna jerk off
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Thoughts on Luminous Banner? Commandocraft?
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>>173266865
I wanna jerk you off
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>>173266663
Good thing for those that opened them, the devs pretty much said Ginger would get support later on, and Minthe is by definition only able to get better as new necromancies come out.
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>>173266916
Thanks dude I'll jerk off to that image
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>>173267048
<3
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>>173266364
Is this for a free game or a paid game? If it's the CC requirement that's stopping you from making a US account, I think you should be able to get around that for a free game.
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>>173266916
Where are the doujins anyway?

I've only found shitty ones.
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>>173267276
>tfw that nice Vampy one
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Haven't played since dariacraft unga bunga blood meta.

Whats the new expansion doing? Is the top tier more cancer or less cancer then daria was.
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>>173267276
People are mainly making GBF.
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>>173267345
sauce
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>>173266539
>tfw you open nothing but top and high tier legos
Feels great, I hope I never see an anonamly or ginger
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>>173267409
Equally cancer i'd say.
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>>173267409
This shit is way more fun than Daria was.
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Post Roach list
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>>173266539
>ouro
>snek
>top tier
Loving
Every
Laugh
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>>173267276
There are none
Fap to granblue fantasy or dont at all
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>>173266873
Anyone? I guess I'll just try it out myself
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>>173267409
You literally cannot win against a perfect curve dragonfaggot.
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>>173267409

Definitely far more cancerous. Now basically 2 crafts instant win on Turn 6 or 8, and everyone else has to eat shit except Shadow, who has enough broken shit to clear those two.
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>>173267409
Shadow is worse than Daria and Albert together.
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>play midrange shadow
>get matched with unga shadowtard
>drop deaths breath turn 6
>has to waste all his cards getting through the wards
>drop it again turn 7
>concede
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Been trying to set this up all day long
I wish I had Uriel / Elf Princess
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70k VIALS LUL
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>>173266252
>>173265927

This is what I used to run, Tsubaki is used in case you can't deal the lethal at turn 6,7 sp she's kind of optional, managed to hit a 10 games winstreak with this at AA0
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>>173266916
Could you keep going? I haven't had any relief in a while.
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>>173267682
t. 70k vial dragoncuck
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>>173267409
Shadow is literally cancer with the amount of skeles and zombies they spread. Haven and Dragon are guarenteed auto wins on turn 9 assuming they don't brick
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>>173267837
It's 100% true.
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>>173267558
What are you hiding inside?
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>>173267205
Its a free game But its required, Ijust tried to make one a few minutes ago, thats why im asking
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>>173268009
I want that snake ass on my face.
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>>173266393
>spectrums of light dont exist
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>>173268000

The bones arouse me~~
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>>173268009
Jeez, you don't know what you're doing to me. I'll let you know when I'm done, okay? Just keep going for now!
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>dragon players are crying about fucking shadow out of all crafts despite getting lightning blast and even more ramp PLUS healing

...?
no seriously elaborate
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>>173268178
dragon players are wallet warriors
they don't think, they just buy and expect results
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>>173267437
nigger go open up your doujin site of choice and enter "english vampy"
theres only like 2 of her
how unresourceful can a single person be
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Need a win, no concede
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>>173268154
Of course~
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>>173268178
its the only deck that can reliably beat them
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>>173268178
>explain why I elaborate assumptions all the time
Seek medical help.
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>>173268113
>wavelengths are color
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>>173267828
You can do it anon!
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>>173268275
Forgot the match id...
18025
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>>173267919
Dragon is more oppressive than Shadow is.

>>173268178
Lightning Blast is the most overrated card of TotG. These fucks thought that card was the second coming while completely overlooking Rahab and Sibyl.
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>>173268178
>muh 70k vial deck
>w-why isn't shadow dead after we shitposted all pre release about lightning blast
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>>173268361
Oh now I'm going into maximum overdrive.

Was this doujin ever scanned?
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>>173268359
Jaden, pls
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>>173268258
Very VERY lazy
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>>173268361
I know I can! I'm just happy I have good anons like you and >>173268286
taking care of me.
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>>173268495
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>Fighting is so cool!
Followed by
>Fighting is so sorrowful!

Havent gotten a single copy of this violin girl
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>>173268017
Have you tried this?
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204034
You can just choose an airport or something as the address when it prompts you, that's what I did for my JP iTunes account.
>>
>>173268445
The Sibyl and Ouroboros saltfests were pretty amusing at least.
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>>173268596
Cruel, not cool
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>>173265927
>>173266252
I like this one for when I just wanna end games fast, usually you end up running out of steam just before lethal so arriet / fangblade can help you close the game, and tsubaki is great against dragon, and if that fails you'll have evos leftover for albert since jeno and luminous mage allow you to sit on your evos.
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95507
Need a concede
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>>173268258
I found a thing, thank you anon
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>>173268596
>get animated saha and israfil from packs
Mmm thanks Cygames
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>>173268684
Wasnt it crude?
>>
W-what's thread devolving into?

I'm kind of scared, guys
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>>173268692
What, this soon? I guess if you really want me to I'll do it. I can probably go whenever you want. Just say when and I'll go, anon.
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>>173268415
>>173268275
Thanks Arisa
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>>173268445
If you have to mutagenic bolt at turn 6 vs aggro shadow you're 100% dead
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>>173264258
should get you some wins
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>>173268718
Thanks Vampy!
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>tfw could vial all my animated cards I have enough normal copies of so I can finish a deck I want but I swore myself to never vial anything I don't have 3 of, including animated cards
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>>173268445
>dragon wins against everyone but shadow
>shadow wins against everyone but specifically teched haven with good draws
hmmm
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>>173268837
noice
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>>173268625
Cant do it on my craptop because it cant run itunes or the site..Which is why im asking
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I love shitting on Haven
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Give Roach deck list!
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I like how mentally ill pedos pretend there's only dragonfags in the general. Completely ignore the fact that they have positive winrate against EVERY class.
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>>173268943
I know that, I had someone Mutagenic Bolt me and I just bonked him with Eachtar next turn. I was just posting random card art.

>>173269102
Shadow can be teched against, but those techs are useless against Dragon and vice versa I suppose.
>>
Who the fuck thought that lightning blast is a balanced card? It all least should hit all the board instead of only one side.
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>>173267409
p2w wallet dragon and unga bunga unlimited skeleton works
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>>173268967
>noble knight
Wut
>3 charlottes
Wut
>fucking 3 monikas
Uhhhh
>not even 1 Albert
You...you get wins with this?
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>>173269315
>dirt cheap
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>>173269231

Honestly, if they nerf it, thats the one way I'd expect them to nerf it. Changing it to "Destroy the whole field" rather than banishing just the opponents.
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>>173269231
It costs 10 mana and usually after using it you have nothing on your own side

It's just like a reset button more often than not
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>>173267409
It's way worse. The game is essentially unplayable right now and will 100% die out without nerfs. It would have survived pre-nerf Daria.
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>>173269396
>3 grim/3 charlotte/1 tsubaki
>cheap
Yeah ok
If you even had to consider creating anything in this deck you'd be better off making Alvida commands/albert and then they could be used in other sword decks.
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Post shame concedes
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>>173269467
>Nerfing Lightning Blast instead of Sibyl

>>173269231
The thing about board wipes is that they eat up your turn. It's a 1 for 1 removal that's rather expensive and a total board wipe that can't be followed up. It's not that big of a deal.
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>>173265927
>>173267813
>she's kind of optional

in case you don't know her common replacement it's dod; it's better in some situations and worse in other ones
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>>173269553
Except they'll 100% of the time have ouroboro
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>>173269614
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>>
just dusted 40k vials worth of cards for ramp dragon

gimme a deck list asap
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>>173269641

They both need to be nerfed. Nerfing one thing doesn't preclude nerfing another, Anon.
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>>173264258
That's my sword list when I need to deal with sword dailies. It isn't budget but you can sub tsubaki for dod and albert for.. nevermind.
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>>173269673
So you didn't remove ouroboros?
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>>173269763
Craft all legendaries randomly, doesnt matter which one
If you dont have 16 legendaries in the deck dont attempt ramp dragon
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>>173269690
kill yourself dragon nigger
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>>173269176
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>>173264258
without albert your best chance is probably banner or pepe... or pepe banner

needs 3x alwida's anyway

also
>masters
>asking silly questions
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>losing streak starts now
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>>173269864
Cant remove it 5 turns in a row
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>>173269852
Lightning Blast is fine. It's probably the most balanced board wipe Dragon has access to.
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>dragon has now overtaken haven as the infinite board clear and healing class
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>>173270045
>masters
>meaning anything
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>>173270203
But that's wrong
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>>173270203
>still lose to brs running goblin decks
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is there a graph where i can see play percentages for each class?

feels like im playing only against dragon/shadow/sword now, i haven't seen a rune or forest since the expansion dropped
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>>173270032
Wow that deck looks like brick city.
Also 3 fortuna/3 mage seems super greedy in terms of evos.
They're dead draws otherwise.
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>>173270127
>balanced
>remove the entire opponents field with literally no downside
>balanced

Those words don't mean what I think you think they mean.
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>>173270279

Haven only has 3 sets of a board clear. ALS, Themsis, and "I hate shadow" ritual. Meanwhile Dragon has Bahamut, Salamander, and Lighting Blast along with whatever meme board clears they could slot in if they were so inclined to do so.
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>>173270127
The problem is not the wipe, is the banish. Banish is this game is too powerful.
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>>173269315
this is a fucking budget deck you fucking sperglord, don't like it go netdeck somewhere else
you'll get wins with it
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>enemy sword nigger has a 12 attack pepe by turn 6
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>>173270454
>10 fucking pp
>TEN
>FUCKING PP
>opponent still has the tempo advantage even after Dragon uses 10pp lightning blast because they get to slap down followers first since dragon cant 10pp blast + play followers on the same turn
d0? nah not even d0, story mode?
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>>173270454
Its balanced for dragon he passed a turn :^)
Just ignore his forte and ouroboro that he played the turn before
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>>173270462
haven also has tarnished grail

bahamut is neutral
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I'm starting to think that Hyper Ramp Dragon will fall a little bit in the rankings. It's just too greedy.

I've fought against full-on ramp Dragon's that had nothing but ramps and Rahab. But I just bust out my full-on Aggro deck that I used in RoB and they all fall at around T6 wondering what the hell happend. Also they are having a hard time against Aggro Shadow.
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>>173270536

Honestly, banish isn't too powerful. It's a needed tool in the game. The problem is, it isn't prevalent ENOUGH.

Not everyone has banish yet, and if they do, it isn't easily playable, or other cards do destroy but with a benefit (like DoD), which see play over just "banish for the same cost".

But when you give someone a full board banish that ONLY affects the opponent, that is broken, because now only 1 class has it as an option, and it has no downside.
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>>173270583
Its a really shitty budget deck
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>>173270641
>>173270663
kek.
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>>173270454
>costs your ten fucking pp to play
>odds are you had nothing on your board and it's a "shit I gotta get out of this / get out of jail" card
>enemy is now leading you by placing things first
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>>173270739
>The problem is, it isn't prevalent ENOUGH.
thankfully you are not in charge of game balancing

banish isn't supposed to be prevalent
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>>173270454
Dude the downside is that it costs 10 fucking mana. Compare this to Bahamut which wipes the field and leaves a giant threat on the board. Or Israfil that can heal, damage to face, and be dropped by Saha for a quick swipe. Or Breath of the Salamander which can be cast from turn 4 onward for most opponents.

>>173270536
The banish is only a problem if you're dependent on Shadows or Last Words. Which is primarily a problem for Shadow and fringe PtP decks. And the only Shadow deck that really gives a fuck about Blast is Nephthys anyway. To anyone else it's just another wipe.
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SO GLAD THAT HE THINKS I RAGE QUIT HAHAHAHAHAH I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME PLEASE COME TO MY HOUSE AND KILL ME
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>>173270750
you're a really shitty budget deck
why don't you post a better one then, mr "im so good at the game"? the only thing i crafted from that is 2 charlottes because im a huge waifufag
fuck me you can replace all the cards that you sneer at because your jap overlords don't think are good with what you think is good
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>>173270739
Banish isn´t prevalent because it would kill Haven.
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>Mission: Win 1 match as swordcraft

Fuck this is almost impossible.
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>>173270439
on the other hand if you don't draw them you're not going to win
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>>173270462
>now overtaken
If you're going to look at at from a numbers point of view, Dragon already had more AOE cards than Haven pre ToG. The problem is that most of them are hot garbage, so they were never used.
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>>173271259
I literally run a single mage in my forest deck and I have fairly steady results with it.
Though ToG has not been kind, Grimmnir is a real thorn in the side of forest.
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>>173270462
>dragonfags claiming Bahamut like he's their own
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>>173271218
just play pepe

forest and rune are hard
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>>173271467
I don't know what this means. I've been trying for 5 matches now to try and win 1 for this mission but it seems impossible.
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>>173271423
unica on your pic seems to be claimed by haven
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>>173270439
>3 mage seems super greedy in terms of evos
Goblin Mage works regardless. 3 Feena is the same reasoning as 3 EPM; Forest's probability of winning is close to 0 if you don't draw any.
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>>173271362
Post dick, nerd
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>>173270842

Banish is functionally identical to destroy except in very few, rare cases (ie: Mord, Ourou, etc).

There is absolutely no reason for it not to be accessible to various crafts. Magic realized this ages ago with it's various removal types, you need all types of removal to be competitive to ensure a healthy meta. You can't just print a bunch of good Destroy effects, and not do the same with Banish, for everyone, or else you get shit like the current meta where the option is Execute (which no one uses), Odin (which sees limited use at best, and is expensive as fuck because it's tied to a creature), or Lightning Blast, which is an amazing card, who gives a fuck if it costs 10PP, it's played by a RAMP craft, which hits 10PP super fast, and has NO DOWNSIDE, because it only nukes your opponent, not you. You're not playing Lightning Blast because you're behind, you're playing it so you stay ahead.
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>>173271423
The Neutral territories are rightful Dragoncraft clay.
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>>173271814
>last words are "very few, rare cases"

who needs that mechanic anyway
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>Have two big followers, one with ward, and two fairies

>As long as the big ward holds up or takes out a few enemy followers I should be fine

>Necroassassin

>Takes out my big ward and I lose the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME because of a bad RNG roll

I motherfucking hate you. At least May only does one fucking damage, doesn't just DELETE a follower. Fuck you.
>>
cant wait for the cards next expansion that like to be banished instead of detroyed
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>>173271814
>There is absolutely no reason for it not to be accessible to various crafts
Except Shadow would be unplayable if everyone had easy access to banish.
No Sexton isn't enough.
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>>173271957
>forest complaining about rng
Now THATS irony
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>>173272054
sounds good, let's print a neutral forbidden ritual.
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>>173271957
>reddit spacing
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>>173272139
Shadow has fifty times more RNG cards than Forest. Doesn't even compare.
>>
what do wolfbolt decks look like now in ToG
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>>173271941
>being able to play tons of LW or entirely unremoveable creatures is fine
>but being able to have answers to them is bad and shouldn't be allowed!

This is why the game is currently in a shit meta state. You don't have answers to this kind of shit. A health game state includes both good offensive and defensive options. If a LW creature has a good effect, there should be good Banish options to deal with it.

How does no one understand this shit?
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>>173272054
And Haven. Why even bother losing tempo playing Seraph, Tarnished Grail or a lot of other amulets if they will get banished.
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>>173271362
I don't know dude, those 0 cost followers are essential in making the combo actually work
>>
How do you pronounce ''Orthrus''?
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>>173271715
I can't be assed to pull up the game is something like
last words fairy girl x3,
may x3,
bounce draw x3
fairy circlex1
Roach x3
Dungeon crawler x3
fairy bringer x1-2 I don't recall
Slyvian (?) justice x2-3 I don't recall
Pixie mischief x3
Goblin mage x2
Selwins command x2
Elven Mage x1
Tia x1
Lionel x2
DoD x1
Wolf x1
Homecoming x1

Ehhh, I don';t remember the rest. Something along those lines
Its a recycle heavy deck. I bounce a lot, I'll drop roachs early for 1-2 damage
Also Lionel Memes
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>>173271551
>>173271874
You dragonshits sure got cocky now that you finally got a 50% w/r deck (that costs 70k vials LOL)
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>>173272328
Same as Roach decks, just like before. Aerin replaced Fairy Beast, one Queen, 2-3 Wardens.
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>>173272343
>i want the game to be even more removalverse than it is
>it would certainly make the game better!
>>
This tryhard scum grimnir'd my meme. I grimnir'd him in response and emoted as fast i as i can. Fucking nips.
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>>173272269
>autism
>>
What does Eris look for in a man?
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>>173272361
Orth-ros
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>>173272361
or thrus
like the wri sound in wrist

You can hear it clearly here
https://clyp.it/gkebivjs
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>>173272460
>Luminous Banner
>Tryhard
>>
>>173272361
ort roos
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>>173272450
I agree lets give everyone a 1pp 2/2 aegis
Aegis is balanced for haven so everyone should have it
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>>173272576
Commander deck.
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>>173272450
>killing my creature with 1 card is OK as long as it's another creature
>but removal is bad!
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>>173272460
You missed lethal with Genesis Dragon, didn't you?
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>>173272730
I won of course.
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>>173272730
grimnir would be lethal with the JO crystal
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>>173272730
it's about sending a message
>>
>virgins itt
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>>173272672
The difference is proactive vs reactive play you retard.
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>>173272902

Grimnir is fucking disgusting. It is play in both aggro and control. They should delete that shit.
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>>173273180
YOUR EVIL DEEDS END HERE
*banishes veight*
OLD HAGS ARE BEST
*brutally murders evolved vania and lives*
>>
Anyone know how to improve my Luminous Banner deck?

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/2?hash=1.2.fskF2.fskF2.fskF2.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-HbC.625kM.625kM.625kM.628BY.628BY.628BY.628BE.628BE.65-lY.6Dd1i.6Dd1i.6Dd1i.6Daqw.6Daqw.6Daqw.62AdA.69oui.69oui.69oui.6DfTy.6DfTy.6DfTy.62D2y.62D2y.69mSS.69mSS.69rKo.69rKo.69rKo.6DabS.6DabS.6DabS.69ous.69ous

I got absolutely destroyed by one earlier so I figured I'd try my hand at building one. It seems solid so far, but I'd like to see if anyone else has tried it.

Latham is the card that put in alot of work when I lost to the deck, so I'll probably think about adding more of those.
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*casts 4 angelic barrages*
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I'm so sick of losing to Grimnir that card is fucking garbage fuck whoever designed this piece of shit as if fucking Bahamut wasn't enough you had to make TWO big neutral AoE followers that are one sided AND hit face you piece of garbage game developers fuck you.
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>>173273647
t. aggroshitter
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>>173272902
why does killing them with grimnir instead of a storm follower feel as such a bm
>>
>>173273438
>dshitting intensifies
when did anyone defend evolve effects?
>>
>the enemy kills you with Grimnir enhance
>you can't surrender ragequit and need to wait the whole animation to be played
>you see you followers die before you die too
>need to hear that chuuni piece of shit
I fucking hate this new expansion
>>
>>173273742
FUCK OFF NOBODY LIKES YOU NUDARIA
>>
>>173273459
i'm not too sure about princess and vanguard, put some removal in there too
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>>173273961
I personally think those two are the reason you play Luminous Banner.

Their Banner stats are solid, and they're one cost after Gawain. Whole Swing is definitely something I forgot about though.
>>
I'll join the other anons and say that I hate Grimnir too.

Hate!
>>
need a concede: 61692

Thanks!
>>
game is so fucking garbage now
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>>173274326
t. Daria shitter
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>>173273634

4x3PP + 3PP body = 15 PP worth of shit.
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I love Grimnir
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>>173274326
t. runecuck
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>>173274326
Still better than HS.
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Are there any cool gunslingers in this game? gunner maid a shit
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>>173274268
ty vampy chan
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>>173274193
oh fuck princes and vanguard are both commanders i completely forgot
if you want to take that to ranked make sure you have something to deal with dragon niggers
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>>173274326
It's no better or worse than before, Dragon and Shadow just replaced Daria and Forest. Cygames 'balancing' seems like the game is always going to end up with 1-2 classes dominating and the rest can hide in unranked for an expansion.
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>win one match as Runecraft

How do you do this without Daria or D-Shift
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>>173274423
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>>173274557
forest is still the top winrate
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>>173274596
>>173274596
>>173274596
New
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>>173274493
No
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>>173274580
Dshift stopped running Merlin, the deck is under 10k vials now.

Failing that you can neutralcraft aggro.
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>>173274615
What stats are you using?
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>>173274580
otk burn rune

http://www.teamexg.com/articles/letherna-exg-4-1
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>>173274782
>otk
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>>173273746
Because GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIRU.
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>>173268596
>>Fighting is so cool!
lmao anon
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