/svg/ - Shadowverse General

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>9 memes early

>Heavenly Aegis
>Tia
>Queen Vampire
>Pluto
>Daria

Only a few legendaries but 3 of them are in the top tier according to https://svspot.com/2017/01/25/legendary-tier-list-with-liquefy-and-rerolling-guide/

Should I keep it?

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>9 posts early

>>173223218
GReat Meta tier 1
Aegis
Middle tier
Daria and Tia
ALmost good
Queen vampire
Shit
Pluto

you can get a better re roll what are your golds? maybe they can make your one good

>>173223218
Top fucking percentage, mate. Keep it.

>>173206442
>>173206442
>>173206442
migrate

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Could Storm Haven be relevant if Dark Jean weren't so shit?

>>173223316
report this trash
never come back

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>173221536
>173221536
>173221536
>173221536

finish this thread first, we've had 4 generals clogging up the catalog cause of cancer like OP

>>173223120
Stop making threads, newfag.

>>173223364
Oh ffs
>>173221536
>>173221536
>>173221536
>>173221536

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>>173223316
>new expansion just came out
>thread barely has any activity

>>173223364
why she wear something like that?

>>173223430
I really can't 4chan today
>>173204245
>>173204245
I'm not in anyway endorsing that point, the opposite in fact

>>173223440
Summertime fun! Skins SOON

>>173223440
to attract her dyke princess

>>173223350
report OP instead

>>173223503
>Summertime fun! Skins SOON
I hope you're right anon
>>173223513
Erika is futa?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgKazTrhXmI

>>173223350
>>173223416
>>173223556
Did janitor even do their job?

>>173223320
But dark Jeanne is played in Aegis decks, dude

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>>173223054
Alright, how does this look like? Off screen is 1x bahamut.

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>>173223570
The princess is

Are all characters from Shadowverse also appear in RoB and GBF? Is there any original character?

>>173223619
Only on /tv/

>>173223686
All are from RoB. All.

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>>173223614
>not even just themis bro works anymore
I'm seriously worried for the game's future. Are they gonna introduce even more board flood for other classes to one up this or double down on massremovalverse?

>>173223659
Doujin when?

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>>173223432
>go into /hsg/
>40% is SV-posting and anti-SVposting

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FUCK HAVEN

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>>173223686
>>173223725
*Except the main 7 SV leaders (Arisa, Erkia et.)

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Oh shit, what kind of a meme am I in for?

>>173223614
what disgusting manner of degeneracy, but good job gassing that faggot

To all frog users:
Stop using frog as your only wincon.

Have fun,

Frogcraft main

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>>173223889
tyrant/atomeme

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>>173223614
DELETE

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>>173223280

>>173223780
at least this guy could use themis even though it fueled eachtars

back in rob people posted screenshots like just themis it bro with turn 4-5 board flood from daria

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Heh

>>173224089
How did he get 12 shadows on turn7? It's impossible against haven banish cards.

>>173223657
pls help, is this good enough to win some games on ladder?

>>173224087
On the second page,
>x1 Neptune
>x1 Archangel Reina
>x1 DShift
>x1 Luxhorn
>x1 Grea

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>RoB second season is going to be 24 episodes

Holy shit just how much money does Cygame have?

>>173224160
i cut off the beginning because of file size but i used sextons to ensure havens couldnt do their ay banish shit

>>173224087
>>173224181
I would re roll you get a pretty 4/10 start

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>>173224152
Also the fuck is this blood deck?

>>173224240
Oh, smart. I don't use them though, rarely meet haven.

>>173224263
Laura + Azazel + Claw OTK

>>173223969
>lowering your chance of drawing frog by turn 3 just so you can quickblader for 1 damage before a 2/2 kills it

>>173224249
Yeah, I got a feeling my gold cards were shit.

>>173224189
Length doesn't mean shit if it will be full of quality.

I know forest as a craft is not doing too well at the moment, but I really want to try it out. I have hoarded a lot of cards for the class and wanted to try and play it.
I know about the Wolfbolt decks, but i'm missing both cards, are there any other variants? I guess the roach OTK is still there? Did the new expansion add any useful cards?

>>173224152
How has the deck been working out for you? Is it any good?

>>173224376
Didn't seem to do so hot
dropped laura early to try to deal with me flooding the board.

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>>173224376
>claw

Try bloodfed for style points.

>>173224385
I don't run any 1pp follower in my frog deck. They are useless and dead draws at turn 6/7 when I just need a little more burst damage to finish off my opponet.

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>>173224392
Ganbare anon try to get some good legos.

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>Gawain is going to save sword!!!

He didn't.
Albert still saves sword every fucking day

>>173224443
Its fun, and I win more than I lose, but I'm mainly playing in unranked until the meta settles.

Despite my reservations it has worked rather consistently for me, and honestly, the "nut hand" is just getting gawain to get Walfrid to 7 that way you can turn 6 otomeme into him making him just a better sage commander.

If you have 3 otomemes, and 3 gawains, go nuts, if not, I wouldn't craft gawains for this

>>173224538
That fucking luminous save an evolve point whore is also pretty annoying desu.

>>173224619
she messes with maido leader's albert pulls, so she is secretly your greatest ally

>start playing shadowverse the other day
>having fun, it's actually better than hearthstone
>two of my gaming friends want to try some practice matches, they're also pretty new
>both of them use rune decks that just cast spells and then combo with huge creatures and the extra turn spell and I can't do anything the whole match
Why is this bullshit allowed? It's so uninteractive. I thought the point of this kind of game is minions and fighting for board control. Holy shit that's so frustrating to face. I could do exactly nothing.

>>173224435
Wolfbolt is still a very consistent deck.
Crystalia Aerin, Elf Queen are very good cards from this expansion.

>>173224435
Tempo Elf got Beetle Warrior, Sukuna, Ivy Bomb (?) and Jungle Warden

>>173224538

Gawain is so good with support cannon.

>>173224514
Thanks anon. Luckily the rerolling in this game isn't as bad as other mobages.

>>173224754
>Gawain is so good with support cannon.

I rather play a body on turn 5.

>>173224750
this is removalverse.
but rune is the shitiest craft right now don't be mad at least in this expansion d-shift is shit

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>>173224435

>>173224750
That's was D-shift. Now switch to commie shadow and aggro their ass.

>>173224619
If meta wasn't removalverse , Luminous Mage would be really good, especially that free knight she vomits every turn.

Ever since the expansion, i've been losing alot more games due to skellys. Is there anything that can counter them?

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>>173224861
this deck is amazing

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Anyone got a support cannon deck list?

>>173224872
I meant every time you summon her

>guy plays aggro shadow, bringing me down to 9 before I manage to stall
>randomly plays nep at turn 8
die in a fire you cancerous faggot

>>173224861
Thanks anon, i'll try it out. I'm still missing on 1xWarden and 1xElf queen. I have enough vials to get the warden, but I can replace The queen with anything else?

>>173224861
How do you win with this dick?
Poke with Roaches and finish with Jungle Alberts?

>>173224872
she saves an evo point regardless because you evo her or her knight and trade them for free

i.e. you get a free trade without using an evo

jeno does it too

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>>173224905
Chemo and aegis can beat shadow and dragon at the same time

>>173224975
It looks like otkroach. Jungle bungas are meat shield, enhance is a bonus.

>>173224750
Just netdeck aggro shadow and tenderly rape their asses.

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>>173224905

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>Promote into Masters
>People still use this Pepe shit.

I guess I'm still at the part of Master's where nobody gives a shit and just meme's since you can't derank.

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>>173224825
>replying to obvious Z0 post

>>173224990
The free +1/+0 is really nice. Sure only three followers get them, but they'll be force to choose to whack mage or knight.

I don't really get why they always whack the knight first.

>>173225039
>countering skellies on turn 10

>>173225050
>5 orbs
>10 on Dragon

gr8 game mates

>>173224865
I like dragon, blood and sword the most so far. Mostly I like the contast of having cute girls + horrific monsters/dragons in muh decks.

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>>173224960
Get Nepped dude.

Someone post a tempo forest deck!

>>173225146
All these crafts have versions that can beat d-shift.

take at look at aggro blood, albert sword and Storm Dragon ( RoB with baha and Zell)

>>173225146
Well. Dragon is expensive for new players so Albertcraft or Aggro Vamp it is.

>>173223657
It's decent enough for ladder, what you want to work towards is 3 Rahabs to replace Goblinmount, 2 more Sibyls, 2 Ouroboros.

I want to violate Lou, forcing her to drop out of Mage School to become a single mom

WHENS THE STREET FIGHTER CROSSOVER PROMO

>from AA0 to Masters in 1 week
It is a good expansion for shadow mains. Nep was too bad.

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>>173225264
>>173225269
Why is svg so polite and helpful? I'm used to generals being rude and shitposty as fuck. I don't get it.

Thanks regardless, will look for aggro blood because vampy a super cute

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Reminder that tog ruined shadowverse while ungoro will save hs

Come home and play the superior white mans game

>>173225050
pepe annihilates dragon with a good curve

>>173224865
Why is it called commie shadow? New player here

>>173225497
This general is rude and shitposty, too. Look at the post below yours

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>>173225521
that's a cute dragonfly dragon on the top of the card

is it a gold card or a leggo?

>>173225585
It's a gold lego.

And I'm pretty sure you have to do some convulted shit to get to play that card.

what are the rewards for the 9-11 chapters?

>>173225571
Shitty forced meme

>>173225521
>5pp Dshift

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>>173225497
Guess is because half of the thread come from /hsg/ and this thread is really rotten and sad to post so WE I try to help anyone.

Just want this thread to be a good place,

>>173224973
You could go for the one follower that heals based on cards in your hand, or anything really.

>>173225571
Because you summon mindless zombies aka commies.

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as aggro shadow how do you guys deal with turn 3 Rahab?

>>173225635
You have to cast 6 spells that you didn't include in your deck. This means you need to play RNGfest cards just to get to that.

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>>173225571

>>173223218
Damn that list is outdated as fuck

Should make a new one for TotG

>>173225649
ticket and some gold

>>173225571
pls, can somebody post that commissar orthrus pic

>>173225698
Pray you have Orthrus or going 2nd so you can play Lyrial.

>>173225742
Yes, Roaring Torch is so RNG

>>173225743
>>173225751
oh, you fulfilled my request even before i made it :3

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Can you pesos stop shitting up /hsg/? Thanks.

>>173225771
>2 roaring torches
>still need 4 other spells
woah...

>>173225832
I am not a Mexican currency, watch your mouth.

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>>173225832
i am so sorry!

but that pedo finder guy infests our thread too

try to just ignore them!

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>>173224947
P-please?

Friendly reminder that iron maiden fucks up fat frogs

>>173225767
Good input.
Thanks anon

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>>173225926
>>173224947
Do it yourself

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>>173225832
Sorry anon, that guy ruins our threads too.

>>173225927
Just tribunal, bro

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>>173225832
I'm that Eris-poster, sorry for turning /hsg/ into /svg/

How the fuck are shadow t1? What the the fuck are the haven players doing

so much for """chemo"""

>>173224754
is he? I ran out of vials so I couldn't test him. I figured it would be shit since cannon isn't a commander and making your cards cheaper isn't going to fix turn 5 do nothing.

>>173226128
>What the the fuck are the haven players doing
Tired of losing against 5 out of 7 classes, they started playing shadow too i guess

>>173226128
they're trying their best but
>>173223614

>>173226005
No Uriel to search it out?

>>173226128
>trusting those crazy religious fanatics

I bet it's all part of Eris's plan

>>173226216
Losing 4pp to lose more 5pp of tempo is really bad

>>173226128
Haven counters Shadow
Shadow counters Dragon
Dragon counters Haven

Which cards were removed from the T2 pool?
I thought basic + standard was gone, but I'm starting to draft basic cards again.
No sign of floral fencer, though.

>>173224189
Only 1 more day

>>173224429
The main problem of the first season was worldbuilding and pacing, 24 episodes will def help

>>173223614
>only 3 Themis

They need to get like 12 board clears, like dragon.

>>173226128
Haven removal is shit when you play against boards full of cheap last worders.

>>173226128
shadow is the chemo you tard
>unkillable card
>can't attack their face do they auto win
>dragon at 10 mana on turn fucking 5 on a regular basis
>they can do this shit without losing card/hp advantage
>literally 12 fucking board clears and 12 sources of 3-4 hp heals

What does shadow have? A bunch of 1/1s that get fucked by goblin mount.
Shadow even loses to dragon when going second.
Shadow IS the chemo

>>173226345
Silver basic cards are kill, bronzes are still available.

>>173226345
good basic 4 drop cards (playful necro, cudgel etc) and bunch of good late game dragon cards

>>173226490
i don't think you know what chemo is

>>173226524
The big secret is that chemo doesn't exist. Chemo just becomes the new cancer.

>>173226367
The main problem was that there wasn't that much of a plot, it was pretty much DUDE ADVENTURES and sometimes a dude with a dubious sexuality screaming out Favaro.

I still liked it a lot.

>>173226558
chemoteraphy can give cancer too but stil the best way to fight cancer

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>>173226490
Noice

>>173226490
too be honest, this is somewhat true. i'd much rather fight skellingtons all day than le balanced unkillable 8/8 or 10 pp on turn 5. at least with shadow they kill you fast.

>>173225050
how many of you here could deal 26+ damage by turn 5?
just wondering

>>173226563
FAVARO!!!
The OP was greato daze

>>173226490
See this shit >>173223614

Not even the class that was designed to hard counter your class can deal with your bullshit even more than daria boardflood. Your class is the reason this game is dying pedotumor

>>173226591
So far no chemo hasn't created a new type of cancer

>play a hundred games of midrange shadow
>fun, but comes down to brain dead board flooding and minor maths
>spend 17500 vials on two additional Belphegor and 3 souldealer plus a bunch on missing golds and silvers to kill myself

Jesus christ this deck is way more fun. It's not the most complex, thinking man's deck but it certainly gets the heart pumping. Not knowing whether or not I'll just die on turn 4 onwards is way more fun then playing on curve board floods until the opponent runs out of removal.

>>173226274
>Dragon counters Haven
>over9000 wards, themis, tribunal, ToS, banish forte/ouro

>dragon mirror
>draw no oracles or aielas
>while he ramps out of control
>lose
nice game dotards

>>173226768
>i'm bad so the match is bad
Dragon mirror is playing 8d chess m8 any wrong move can punish you very hard

Haven needs more aoe banish desu shadow is too cancerous now

>>173226689
>even more than daria boardflood

Come back when shadow can put these kind of stats on turn 4 and 5

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>Make a forest deck after hundreds of unga bunga sword/shadow wins
>It's actually fun

cya ungafags

>Win 4 with rune daily
>Let's queue some Burncraft for fun
>Run into the only guy still playing Elana
Fuck off

>>173226860
just themis bro
Don't let them get early shadows.

>>173226689
>Not even the class that was designed to hard counter your class
retard

>>173223657
Why do you have Zell when you have nothing to use it on. If you're running 3 urd then you need more storm. I would drop goblin mount for rahab

>>173226823
>play turn 4 grimnir because you have no other cards lower than 8pp
>it gets ouroboros'd

>>173226893
>just themis bro

XD >>>> >>173223614

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I can't find any nice art of Selwyn. Arisa is cute but I want to see more Selwyn too.

>>173226927
Literally Not an argument

Try again

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REMEMBER TO NEVER GIVE INTO TIMMY'S P2W BULLSHIT
REMEMBER TO NEVER GIVE UP BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY OUT

>>173226945
Good.
Now havenshitters can't rely on their panic reset button anymore.

>>173226949
rape the elves

Shadow needs to be deleted desu

>>173226689
You could have posted the exact same webm with sword and otohime
the same shit happened in DE all the time
literally every sword/haven matchup was determined by who had more themis/otohime in their hand
doesn't mean otohime is broken does it?

>>173227072
I want the elves to rape me.

hagfags are such babies, just candle+forbbiden ritual bro

>>173227170
Sry to be that guy.
Elf doesn't exist

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Had enough of all these shadow cancer on ladder desu im crafting 3 aegis right now any chemobros can tell me is forbidden ritual necessary? What about candelabra

>>173227030
>Saha
>Genesis
For what purpose?

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>>173227227
I can always fantasize, anon.

>>173225542
True for neutral ramp dragon, but my winrate against storm dragon ramp is an entirely different story. Still not too sure what even counters that shit, I just pray that they brick.

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>playing against """"""midrange"""""" shadow
>bahamut his board
>he floods the board for 5 more turns
>mfw my bahamut had 1 defense when he finally managed to go face after trading so much

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>>173227112
Delete your life desu.
>>173227118
The problem is Otohime is the only efficient board flood for Sword, otherwise you need EP for Floral or play multiple cards and run yourself out of steam. Meanwhile Shadow has multiple one-card floods and Eachtar's buff is just brutal compared to Sage's.

>>173227020
Yeah ok but this one cherry pick webm is?
Haven is ALWAYS supposed to have an answer for shadow and win every match?
If that webm wasn't a significant outlier, he wouldn't have posted it.

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>>173226860
I had a game as mid shadown. The opponent Eris Themis me twice, Lioned me three times, grimnir me 3 times. I lost.

>>173227118
So next expansion we'll get a neutral amulet that straight up banishes shit since REEEEEE LUNA WON'T STOP SHITTING SHIT BECAUSE OF SHADOWS ?

Isn't the whole reason of things becoming removalverse because of otomeme?

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WHICH ONE

Right has more value but I have 2 Khawy, One Eachtar, Israfil and Archangel Reina and I'm thinking rise of the dead might be good synergy.

>>173227297
Keep it up anon.

>>173227464
depends, you have carrots or burial groudns? Then right, you have attendant/lurching/hells unleasher then left

http://www.strawpoll.me/12687991

>>173226689
>Shadow has to spend shitload of mid/late game cards to stay alive and keep board
>haven plays turn 3 ritual
>literally auto lose right there.

>>173227464

Left, right is comeplete ass

>>173227529

Neither this is what I have so far

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>>173227548
>no Luna
Dropped

>>173227437
>themis
>tribunal
>cudgel
>iron maiden
>judge
>lion
>exorcist
>scripture
>forbidden ritual
>death sentence
And they still complain.

>>173227464
>tfw Zeus is just a powercreeped Andras.

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>>173227548
bad poll

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>>173227632
>>173227529

Whoops forgot pic

>>173227671
Oh right, they also run Baha.

>>173227665
Don't want no FBI here. Vampy looks young but is actually old. Luna is just flat out too young.

>>173227671
Don't forget tarnished grail and that temple defender completely stops all early aggro.

>>173227743
lol if you lose with this

>>173227770
plus all you fotm shadowcancer will vote her so she's OUT

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He DC'd on me

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>>173227770
what did he mean by this?

>>173227757
>>173227785
And grimnir.

Themis+banish when? Current haven removal is clearly not enough to deal with shadowcancer

>>173227959
>current removal

Play your goddamned death sentence and forbidden ritual you retard. Themis isn't the only mass removal they have.

Shadowcancer is ridiculous not even daria was like that

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>>173227959
We already have it :^)

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>>173227959
>themis+banish

>>173228041
Yeah pre-nerf Daria was worse.

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>when you think it's aggro shadow, but suddenly the mammoth drops and you know what's coming next

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>>173228046
>Dragon heals more, has more removal and plays more angels than Haven

Really ramps your PP

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"waaa waa i can't autowin against shadow anymore without making changes to my deck even though my class has the tools for it waaa waaaaa"
havenfags are unbearable

>>173227548
but luna AND arisa are my wives

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:^)

who even plays roach anymore

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>>173228172
>Change my deck to shit on aggro shadow
>Next match is Nep

>>173228172
If i don't play haven? shadow is out of hand we need more aoe cheap hard removal tools

When will cygames delete ahadow? The class is clearly anti-fun>>173228272

>>173228172
>b-but if I tech against shadow I w-will lose to d-ragon wah waaaah

Both Haven and Dragon are like that. Dragon's inability and reluctance to play anything other than Saha ramp previous expansion and straight up refusing to tech against Nep because then "we'll lose to Daria and Albert" is what brought about this expansion.

>>173228339
Is there a difference compared to daria + oglers?

>>173228272
this is ridiculous they need to nerf reaper 0/1 at least and instead of summoning skeletons the cards need to be changed to ghosts

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>>173228339
>refuse to adapt old decks
>lose
waa cygames this class is antifun

I like card games but my parents are fighting

>>173228298
>more aoe cheap hard removal tools
Yeah and kill all aggro decks. Good you are not working at Cygames.

>>173228298
Lucius

>>173228460
I actually tried using this and guess what it doesn't fucking work. Useless against anything not skeletons and usually when I play him he just creates more skeletons.

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>>173223614
I remember people here, even back in DE, saying that Themis' weakness was that you used your turn to reset the board and your enemy has the opportunity to flood it again before you because it has no board presence to speak of.

Every time she themises there's no threat on the board so the Shadow guy can just keep slapping followers on the board. If this were Dragon v Shadow instead, he'd have a Bahamut/Grimnir/Wrath Drake on his side of the field after he cleared the board, so the Shadow guy wouldn't just be able to play whatever boardflood was in his hand safely.

And even then, it's the class that has the best time against Dragon. Dragon right now does board control and heal better than Haven and with big threats, so if Shadow gets somehow toned down because people keep crying and Dragon is left untouched, it'll probably be the only t1 craft in the expansion. Hip-Hip!

>>173228451
aggro is cancer and should not exist

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>>173228403
>bullying Reaper-kun
Reminder that all of you called him garbage on release. Apologize!

>>173228041
just goblin mount bro

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Thank you for leaving my Pascale booster Nightfall mage alive and just killing my Pascale to go face so I could lethal with piercing rune.

>>173228536
An aggro a day keeps the dshift away!

How is shadow skeleton spam any different from fairy spam. Let both of them get out of control and you lose.
Just fucking remove anything shadow puts out and it runs out of steam immediately, especially the so called T1 "aggro" shadow.
Midrange is much more dangerous on the other hand.

>>173228531
the t1 deck is shadow not dragon.

Havenbab here this one retard complaining about shadow is clearly a falseflagger, i can shit on shadow just fine even without teching forbidden ritual

Probably rune/sword/forest player butthurt their class isnt t1 queen anymore

>>173228536
t. rune autist

If you have a midrange shadow deck, go open it up in the deck editor and insert one copy of Deathly Tyrant. Done? Now play a couple games and count how many this dude wins for you (especially grind games vs Haven and Dragon). You're welcome.

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>>173228441
Tell them to settle it with a Bo3 match of children's card games. The loser gets sent to the Shadow realm.

>>173228662
Anyone who's saying that shadows is worse than Dorothy ever were is obviously a runeshitter.

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>>173227297
Sharon's a Water Nymp, not an elf. Look at her wings

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22948506

>>173228041

I'd rather go up against Shadow then lmaoburnrune. Losing all your followers to piercing and crimson and half your def in one turn was way worse then skeletons. Daria is far more rage inducing than anything Shadow can do.

>>173228272
WOW! IF ONLY CYGAMES DIDN'T RAPE MY CLASS BOARD CLEAR BECAUSE BANNER SWORD COULDN'T WIN AGAINST A CONTROL DECK
WOW IF ONLY THEY WAITED A WEEK FOR THE EXPANSION TO COME JUST LIKE THEY DID FOR SWORD LAST MONTH
WOW IT WOULD HAVE STOPPED DARIA FROM RAPING EVERYONE LAST EXPANSION TOO

>>173228775
>>173228589
>>173228559
Daria was a honest t1,5 deck and with good hard counters like Cblood,Saha ramp and Sun Satan.

nothing can stop shadow

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>>173228776
>1

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>>173228776
i see vampy marked her prey :3

>>173228776
>1
Now you won't be in heaven.

>>173228864
>Daria was a honest t1,5 deck
>daria
>honest
>t1.5
Why would you go on the internet and tell lies, anon?

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>>173228864
>Dorothy
>t1.5
>good hard counters

Nigger, please.

>>173228862
calm down runetrash, figure out how to play a different rune deck than daria

>>173227349
You already do it for me, scumbag

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>>173228776
>dabbled in other crafts
I know that horrible feel

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>>173228986
>>173228883
No bully my heart is loyal to eris

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>>173229138
glad to see you chose the right side in the end

>>173228170
>Has more removal
You're so full of shit, it's not even funny.

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My name is not important, what's important is what I'm going to do

Anyone know who aegis is based of on? I'm kinda interested the law if this indestructible statue

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>>173228862
>roachfuckers are this mad because their class is not forever t0 anymore

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>Dragonbab chose to deal 8 damage to me over healing 3
>Can't even keep track of crimson sorceries in my hand
Derserved everything he got

>>173229247
Overpowered followers also count as removal.

>>173229284
Explain why do you run more than one candelabra and if you even put more than one on the board, because as I see it, anything more than one is killing your board space and I think more than one wouldn't even interact with seraph if you ran that.

>>173229307
Progenitus but not really even he can be killed

>>173229373

Consistency. Why do you run more than one Seraph?

>>173229247
You want to count dragon only playable removal, actual playable removal in Dragon decks right now, i.e. dragon and neutral, or theoretical dragon removal because Dragon wins in most of those?

>>173229284
this won't even win against midrange, it'll just piss them off

>>173229342
t.retard

>>173229448
t. retard

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>>173229342
You shouldn't use words that you have no idea the meaning of.

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>>173229284
>no wincon
You can't even beat aggro, much less midrange like this. At least play a Grail, faggot.

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IM COMING

>>173229425
>Dragon heals more, has more removal and plays more angels than Haven

Implies that those are exclusive to dragon and haven, since you're drawing a parallel between crafts above. And by no stretch of the imagination dragon has more removal than have atm.

>>173229479
Not him, so what about Grimnir, Israfil and Bahamut? I'm sure he was referring to those.

>>173229598
>neutral cards

>>173229247
Haven:
>Blacked
>Ritual (AoE)
>Death Sentence
>Tribunal
>Cudgel (2-4-1)
>Lion (AoE)
>Themis (AoE)

Dragon
>Breath (T1 is important)
>Sala breath (AoE)
>Grimnir (AoE)
>Lightning blast (AoE)
>Bahamut (AoE)
>Dragon Warrior (2-4-1)

Dragon has more mass removal and can deal with the boardflood past turn 5
Haven has more single removal and can shut shadow down early, but they can't keep up past turn 7

44397
need concede

>>173229307
>Anyone know who aegis is based of on?
Probably that robot waifu from Persona.

>>173229653
Neutral cards are Dragon's property.

>>173229587
Does it really matter though when CURRENT dragon decks have more everything than any CURRENT haven deck?
I don't care if haven can "tech in" bahamuts, lucifers and israfils to compete, the fact remains is that they don't.

>>173229704
Everybody and their mom are using Grimnir.

>>173229380
>Progenitus
Can't seem to find anything about that guy

>>173229680
If you count Pope for Haven you have to count Saha for Dragon.

>>173229738
also even if they did, dragons gonna play them 3-4 turns earlier

>>173229680
Nobody runs death sentence. A lot of dragon decks run Israfil too. Saha+Anything is basically single target removal.

And Haven has Judge.

>>173229680
You forgot:
>iron maiden
>judge
>exorcist

Even the last one being the least effective of the bunch, it stills 3 for 1 vs mid/aggro shadow

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>>173229818
Dragons with t8 Satan can go die in a ditch desu.

>>173229682
thanks gandalf

>play Belphegor
>die before next turn

NICE GAME SHADOBABS

>>173229680
blackened scripture, heretical inquiry, cudgel, death sentence, acolytes, themis, sledgehammer, forbidden ritual, tribunal, damus, ancient lion, judge, soul collector, iron maiden

???

grimnir bahamut and israfil are all neutral you ignorant cuck

>>173229882
>Nobody runs death sentence
First you're wrong I've seen plenty of death sentence in haven in Masters, second dismissing a valid point just shows your love for fallacies, don't move the goal post dude.

>tfw on a 11 or 12 win streak in unranked doing dailies but still is too pussy to play ranked without knowing if my decks are good

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>>173229793

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>4 days later
>/svg/ still crying about aggro decks

What the fuck
Didnt you learn how to deal with them while getting ravaged by blood since DE hit

How to fix the game
2pp amulet neutral
Any card that would be destroyed is banished instead.

Everyone should have access to banish desu.

>>173230002
lol it's a fucking card game

>>173229976
Dragon can actually utilize them where as t10 is too late for other classes.
I only saw Inquiry on 100%Salt decks that ran fucking everything, same with Acolytes and Death Sentence
Damus isn't removal, he's a ward 90% of the time and a lightning rod the other 10%
>>173229816
>>173229882
Saha is multi card removal, but I suppose you can count that as well.
>>173229891
Never seen Iron Maiden utilized sadly,
I'll give you judge, but usually by then you need mass removal as shadow is bringing out 3+ bodies per turn
Exorcist is a 2-4-1 as well, I'll admit I forgot her.

>>173230191
>specifically fucks one craft

Just make a 1pp : if you're playing against shadow, win the game, retard.

>>173230191
We already do, it's called Odin.

>>173230203
sure but it doesn't mean i like to lose my progress

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>>173230191
>this kills the haven
Nice, I approve of it.

>>173230034
So I know he can be removed somehow, but how exactly?
Shouldn't he be protected from sacrifice effects unlike Eldrazi and such?

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why is this allowed

>>173230249
Just use execution, shadowbab.

>>173230257
there is no progress in this game.

>>173229816
No you don't, because cudgel is a haven card, saha+isra/luci is not and that's what the argument was originally about

So I found out about a VERY unfortunate bug when playing take two.
Is Wordwielder supposed to reset the cost on your cards that have Spell boost: subtract 1 from the cost of this card? It just cost me a game when it fucked over my Daria summon.

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Claim your daughterfu
>tfw chances of SV doujins never

>>173230441
They all look like fucking goblins.

>>173230313
Nope, Sac effects are one of the main ways people get around indestructible

And with how MTG's protection works, he doesnt take damage and cant be blocked by anything, but still dies to themis, which is why he's a meme

>>173230441
They all look legitimately autistic.

>>173226274
>Dragon counters Haven
No it doesn't.

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This is how retarded AA3 dragon players are. They win without even knowing how Bahamut works

>>173230647
haven has no counter. it is the true cancer of this meta

>>173230572
But wouldn't protection from everything imply protection from all colours which means protection from Damnation and all that?

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Need a quick concede. Just emote 3 times if you want to complete the game and let me kill you.

43294

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still it feels pretty weird not to have 100% albert pulls

luminous mage was pulled by maid leader

this guy just played baphomet and i was expecting sneks

albert would do 3 damage more in this situation (assuming dropping luminous mage and evolving luminous knight)

>>173230831
It cant take damage, and it cant be targeted, but somehting like Damnation/Themis/Wrath of God that simply says "Destroy All Creatures" works

It is a static ability which means that the affected permanent has limited protection from effects of a stated quality. Protection is normally written "Protection from {quality}" (e.g. a creature with protection from black cares about effects that are black).

The abilities of protection are best summed up with the acronym "D.E.B.T.".

D - All Damage that would be dealt from sources of that quality is prevented. For example, if a creature has protection from black, it cannot be dealt damage by black creatures or spells.

E - The card cannot be Enchanted, Equipped, or Fortified by cards of that quality. For example, if a creature has protection from black, it cannot be enchanted by black enchantments; or by black equipment. If a creature gains protection from the quality after it has already been enchanted/equipped, the attached cards will detach and go where the rules would normally force them to go in that circumstance.

B - Creatures of the stated quality cannot Block the protected creature. For example, a creature with protection from black cannot be blocked by black creatures.

T - The creature can't be Targeted by sources of the named quality. For example, a creature with protection from black cannot be targeted by Dismember.

>>173230897
Thanks

>>173230906
80% of the time i rather have albert on my hand.
Luminous isn't bad though.

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>>173230976
>The abilities of protection are best summed up with the acronym "D.E.B.T.".
Yup, sums up MtG nicely

Thanks for explaining though, I appreciate it.

>tfw you draw so bad you have to zell an urd to stay alive

>>173231186
Fuck off Dragon Chad.

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>>173230906
I think the trade off is that you're going to win more matches that go to turn 8 or 9.
Even with fangblade and Awilda's command, albertcraft kinda has trouble keeping up momentum after those ev points are used. Some fuck posted this small ass picture of his deck the other day and said that this got him to master.

>>173231186
Maybe you can buy better luck too, walletard

>>173231297
not his deck, it's literally this https://twitter.com/tikiposo/status/848160841526423554 without even a single variation

>>173231297
>tsubaki

Is a literal brick in certain matchups.
Mostly shadow.

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>>173230191
Only if we get this card.

>>173230441
>>/gbfg/

>>173230653
???
wtf is this supposed to say? That he zell his baha pulled by saha? wtf is wrong with that? that's the literal winning play. Hello?

>>173230191
>Enemy lay's down sexton
>Game implodes

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>>173231221
>dragon players are chads now

>>173231518
>dragonbab education

>>173231431
a lot of the time ive played against shadow they ususally evolve cerb turn 5, to contest board
sets up for tsubaki next turn
and sets up for a nasty 12 to the face turn 7 with Arriet, although thats unreliable against shadow between kawhy and all the destry random enemy bullshit they have