/utg/ - Undertale General

Is anyone in the western world still making fishlizard content or is it just the Asians now

>>173242282
It's all about that fishreader ship.

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Native Frisk!

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Post some jojo

>>173243012
> that has Asgore kill the other fallen humans despite having zero motivation to do it in this universe because you want Toriel to be a complete dindu despite taking the same place as him?

I do not know what you are talking about, I haven't even figured out the Dreemurr parents in this yet.

>>173244448
There was someone that was talking about how Underswap Toriel didn't have the souls because Asgore had killed them all which I pointed out made no sense.

I still stand by the fact that it seems like you're making Sans too perfect in this universe. He's literally a better Papyrus that has a ton of friends and is a member of the royal guard. Half of what makes Papyrus so lovable is that he isn't really as wonderful and perfect as he wants to be

>>173244643
>>173244448
Also your stuff about how the determination for Flowey and the amalgamate came from Undyne instead of the souls seemed to fall in line with what that person was saying

What I really like about Papyrus, is that he's genuinely strong in spirit.
Even if you kill him he takes it like a CHAMP and that means something.

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I love this prince

I LOVE this prince

>>173244643
Well, like I've been saying, I want to try to stay true to the who the characters are. I don't want to just say "Oh, Sans just has Papyrus' personality and stuff", I want to figure out what would lead character A to act like character B, and how similar and different would they be. Sans being in the Royal Guard and having the same incredible popularity that he canonically has makes more sense to me instead of being in Papyrus' exact situation, because he isn't Papyrus. I don't think Sans would be the type to chase popularity. But anyways, I have yet to FULLY 100% figure everything out, and I guess I still need to figure out this swap Sans more, I don't actually want him to literally be perfection. He still needs to have some issues he's dealing with or something, it just can't be anything too severe, because this Sans hasn't experienced anything that would make him "give up" and succumb to futility.

>>173244898
I think you misunderstood my explanation of that. Undyne was originally using the determination from the Human Souls, like Alphys did. She injected it into the fallen monsters' souls, nothing happened, so she got frustrated and angrily injected more and more DT into them (probably WAY more than Alphys did), so they woke up but quickly began melting into each other, which caused Undyne's DETERMINATION (to revive all the monsters, do what the Queen wants her to do, AND to break the barrier and save all of monsterkind and all that good stuff) to spike and rise incredibly high, causing Undyne's left eye to melt right out of its socket. When this happened, she realized that she had DT like the Amalgamates, too much for her own good, so she immediately began extracting out her own determination, turning it into a routine, which had severe effects and ramifications on her mental state and behavior and stuff.

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Just end me Toriel ;-;

>>173245461
Toriel, Sans, Alphys, and Napstablook (group A) are all strong in mind. Asgore, Papyrus, Undyne, and Mettaton (group B) are all strong in 'spirit' or 'heart'. Group A uses their head more and are more logical and rational than Group B, but they are also more likely to break down from loss and tragic events and fall into negative thinking and stuff. Group B normally has strong willpower and high levels of confidence, while also being incredibly morally virtuous and also a bit more likely to be physically active than group A. It would take A LOT, and I mean A LOT, of loss and tragedy and stuff to get them to break down, but if they do break, they break HARD. I think this can even extend to the Human (A) and AsrielFlowey (B), and Flowey's behavior as a soulless being speaks a lot about how disfunctional a member of Group B can become if they were to lose their heart/spirit entirely.

bread is dead

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I'm in a mood for drawing some gay shit. Post ideas.

>>173246845
Bot and Edgelord in valse

>>173246845
Undyne crushing Alphys's house with the flower delivery she had dropped from orbit

>>173246845
Mettaton's bulge

>>173246845
Asriel melting

I feel like I should clarify that because of what I said here:
>>173246439
My idea of Underswap involves 'breaking down' certain members of Group B, and 'building up' certain members of Group A. So Papyrus, Undyne, and Mettaton, who are all superawesome and superconfident in canon, have to be broken, fractured shadows of their former selves. And Sans, Alphys, and Napstablook, who in canon are all suffering from some form of depression or something, have to be built up to super awesomeness and filled with confidence that they wouldn't normally have.

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This week has been hell OMFG nothing got done.

I am trying to make backgrounds now.

>>173247836
Neat.

>>173246845
Self portrait.

Did somebody fart? Why is so evacuated in here?

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wew lad

>>173249061
Activity usually picking up in around 1-2h from now.

>>173249061
we're on break

The Fallen and Soulful Player 1: sans
Caretaker of the Ruins: Gerson
Snowdin's "Guard": Asriel Dreemurr
Waterfall's Captian of the Royal Guard: ???
Hotland's Royal Scientist of the CORE: ???
Judge of the Last Corridor: The Human
The Ruler of the Underground: W.D. Gaster
The Risen and Soulless Player 2: PAPYRUS
Those that the Ruler defeated and captured: Gaster Followers & Goner Kid
[REDACTED]: Toriel & Asgore Dreemurr
Those that are 'Goners': Patience, Bravery, Integrity, Perserverence, Kindness, Justice

>>173249061
Got stuff to do unfortunately.

>>173249090
but why

>>173249090
>muffet
it's
shit

>>173249261
In the nicest way possible, try to figure out why and what the people you placed in specific places do, because right now it's looking like a pretty heavy clusterfuck to me. Map out the necessarily relations and rearrange them accordingly, because this kinda looks like you decided this using a random generator.

>>173249090
Adult Muffet content? Would be good but they made a huge blunder here.

They gave Muffet a horn.

>>173250652
hahheh, dumb fish think its that whore lizard, but just me, reader

>>173249794
I already had some of this figured out, and I only just thought of Gerson as the Caretaker earlier today.

The 'core' of this AU is the Dreemurrs and Humans swapped with the 'Goners' and Skeletons. Frisk-Chara and Flowey-Asriel are swapped with Sans and Papyrus. Asgore (and by extension, Toriel) is swapped with Gaster. I had trouble figuring out who would fill Toriel's spot, but today it hit me like a hammer of justice: Gerson. My reasoning for this is, Gerson might have been the old Captain of the Royal Guard or something, or some equivalent, before Undyne, similar to how Gaster was the old Royal Scientist before Alphys. Maybe in canon, before Gaster got shattered across time and space, the two Gs were friends. Maybe, in this AU, after the King&Queen got shattered across time and space, Gaster chose to take the throne in their place and probably asked Gerson to help him as some sort of platonic assistant ruler or whatever, but things went south and Gaster's rule got dark, darker yet darker, so Gerson left.

I pretty much have most of Dreemurr side of this figured out, aside from certain details. I just need to figure out the skelebros, and who fills Undyne and Alphys' spots.

>>173250141
That actually is a fairly common thing for Japan/Korea. Because if the gap in her hair, a lot of them run with the idea that she's a demon, an oni, and give her a horn.

>>173249794

>>173251102 (continued)
The Dreemurr side of it is, basically,...
Some alternate version of Chara and Asriel's backstory occurs, so that they 'die' but Asriel's soul stays intact or something and in the future eventually he's revived through a flower and his soul keeps him looking like himself or something (it's this part that needs fine-tuning). Asgore's anger-induced revenge-plot never happens. 6 humans fall, and the Dreemurrs take them in, and eventually Frisk falls, merges with Chara's essence, and become Asriel's 'best friend' along with Chara (since they're practically the same kid, now).

Since there are now 7 Human kids, The Dreemurrs have the non-shattered Gaster and his folllowers teach the kids (including Asriel, because reasons) magic, so that one day the human kids will become strong enough to break the barrier and free everyone peacefully. But, 6 of them become sidetracked by their own self-interests or whatever, and begin working and practicing stuff that has nothing to do with the barrier, which angers Chara and reminds them why they hated humanity. Eventually, it gets to the point where, while they're all experimenting with the Save/Load/Reset Determination stuff, Chara takes control of the body from Frisk and attacks the humans in a fit of pure, cold, hatred and rage. The fallout of the battle is the 6 humans and Toriel & Asgore (who came in to try and calm Chara down) falling into the creation and shattering across time and space. I guess the accident would have also given Gaster his own Gaster-y abilities without having him lost in the void, or something. Anyways, the accident causes shards of the 6 Human's Souls and magic (including Determination) to fuse into the Human and Asriel, and Asriel may or may not have either gotten amnesia or blocked the entire event out of his mind. Frisk tried and tried and tried to undo all of this and save their adopted parents and the other kids, but no matter how hard they tried, they failed.

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>>173247430

>>173252239
Kek, thanks

>>173252453
>>173252173
Last I checked, green blush usually signifies someone about to hurl.

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We must defend our land.

>>173252748
Maybe that artist is an Emetophiliac

>>173252813
then why didn't you shoot Chara, you nimrod?

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>>173252813
I can smell you from here, Rus.

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>>173252990
I deny all ties to communism.

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>>173252135
In addition, what I know for sure is that this is what the Human looks like.

>>173253409
You call that a weapon? You'd be better off using your little Adidas sock hat to fight, you damn dirty
Caprine bolshevik
Trackpants-wearin'
Dumb goat blushin'
Shota baitin'
Mass murderin'
Sissy bitch actin'
Brother fuckin'
Purple-eye-havin'
mama's sweater-wearin'
Cuck Kingdom inheritin'
tiny bulge-havin' waste of space

Would Temmie be a better God(dess) than Toby the Annoying Dog?

>>173254996
i already worship her so yes

Is there a mix of Your Best Friend and His Theme anywhere?

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Caretaker update

looks like Asriel couldn't sustain the edge and it doesn't look like Chara is going to be too happy about it

this gote should not look this cute

>>173255461
I mean, I think I found one, but there's got to be more, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jjaa2JL4co

>it's a Sansfag tries and be funny thread
Oh joy

r & i

>>173255461
Not to my knowledge, unless you want extremely cringe-inducing lyric videos.

>>173255839
>>173255916
What? I don't see anything wrong here today that warrants that kind of response.
Maybe on other threads, like maybe yesterday, but not right now.

>>173255638
What the hell with his arm?

>>173256096
The first person you linked to is a known shitposter.

>>173256096
Just sorielfag comeback.

>>173256148
Sorry that your joke was unfunny but that doesn't make me a shit poster

>>173256118
big fuckoff burn by the looks of it, but the cause is unknown yet

Fuck off, (((Sorielfag))).

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The spider a cute! CUTE!!!

>>173256513
((you))

>>173255638
>gook eyes
why do they insist on making everyone look that way

>>173256789
Pulling on the baby spider's hair!
The baby spider crying!
Pulling on the baby spider's hair and doing a judo throw on her by her hair!
The baby spider crying!
Pulling on the baby spider's hair and spinning around in a circle before letting go so the baby spider gets launched through the window and into the yard!
The baby spider crying!

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>>173247364
Is this a bulge? It's the first time I draw such a thing.

>>173246845
RGs hugging an anon

>>173256789
But can the spider explain why people draw the Spider with a horn!?

If sans = the human, is there any character in Undertale with the cheats and hacks and laziness to match Undyne?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG1xeB18kAU

>>173246845
Asgore kissing anon

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Anyone know the artist of this? I've looked everywhere, but I've found nothing.

>>173258738
Are you just setting up a Reader response

>>173258946
Yes

>>173258946
?

No. I'm serious. The closest I can think of is Alphys.

>>173258814
Too lewd

>>173257805
Yessir that's a robulge

nice robot thighs too

>>173259295
Then make it a friendly boop

>>173257432
Consoling the spider and tending to her injuries!
The spider being so happy!
Helping the spider bake pastries for the bake sale!
The spider being so happy!
Hugging and kissing the spider!
The spider being so happy!
>>173258543
Yes, she can! You see, long ago spiders descended from a race of horned spider-like monsters which are long extinct. It seems normal spiders were not the only descendants, though, as a new kind of horned spider monster has been discovered! Artists are now confused as to whether spiders should have horns or not, so they draw her with a single horn as a middle ground!
It's because of the area where her hair splits a bit on her battle sprite. A few artists believe that's a horn.

>>173259629
Fascinating, thank you again, as always!

The Broom Closet Ending is my favorite ending!

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>>173259991
...and what does that entail?

>>173242282
There are some western people on twitter, yeah.
But yes, 95% of the quality stuff is eastern.

>>173260118
Doing sweet F/A while sitting in a broom closet!

>>173260295
>sweet F/A
what

>>173260392
Sweet Fuck All. F/A means Fuck all, as in doing absolutely nothing!

>>173260452
ah

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>>173253606

>>173259991
fuck off stanley

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Its time once again

>>173259991
The Confusion ending is the best.

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>>173257854

>>173261150
neat

>>173260796
No.
>>173261038
That's a pretty good ending.

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>>173260949
Let the Judgement commence.

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>>173260949

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>>173260949

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>>173260949

>>173261578
>That's The Truth Truth
Cloud Atlas?

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>>173260949
My opinions towards Toriel and Monster Kid have changed some what recently. I'll see how long it lasts for

Is Gaster a wound in time and space?

>>173262049
No, just in the force

>>173262049
no but he's a pain in my ass

>>173260785
Yes, that's the image I drew. The Frisk/Chara designs were the second ones I had in mind before I did the others (the first being Papyrus). An AU where Frisk replaces Sans was clear in my mind when I was designing Frisk/Chara, and bits and pieces of the story were coming together in my head at the time, and I've been building on it ever since.

>>173246943
>>173247097
These two require more time. I will probably finish them tomorrow.
>>173248392
You cheeky cunt.
>>173258814
Sorry, Asgore requests are not allowed.
>>173252312
>>173261185
>>173259392
Glad to see you liked it. Gonna start a tumblr blog soon so you will have an opportunity to send requests anytime.

>>173256789
No!

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>>173260949
beemp

>>173260209
I'd request some stuff but Pumpkin just dislikes ships full stop and I don't really know of any other people who might take requests

>>173262049
He could be, people aren't supposed to remember him, but he's still partially remembered and his inventions and blueprints still persist...even when he was scattered throughout all of time and space.

>>173262049
>>173262615
I've played too much Legacy of Kain not to answer this, but think of Gaster as a river. The erasure event is a big fucking stone you threw in the river, however, as the water cannot be fully stopped, it'll either seep through cracks, or flood around. That seeping water is what's left of him, the CORE, the blueprints, stuff that was just too much to erase completely.

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>>173262446
>You cheeky cunt.

>>173262889
>>173262615
Makes sense, thanks anons.

>>173262938
[squish]

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>>173260949

WATCH OUT, DADDY SANS IS COMIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_j5VpHzTv8

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>>173262567
Jelly did some really cute fishlizard stuff. I don't know how busy they are right now, though.

>>173262446
>Sorry, Asgore requests are not allowed.
Why not?

>>173262567
There's a writefag in the Undyne thread on /trash/ who does really good fics if you're into that kind of thing.

>>173262464
It's only a matter of time before you love the spider, just like everyone else! The spider's cuteness is irresistible!

>>173263123
Scary but funny

>>173263562
They're taking a break until the weekend right now, though.

>>173263669
Yes, but they are in the thread, so if you had a request you could go and ask at least.

>>173263562
Is this the same one who thought Alphys and Undyne getting together was a mistake that needed to be fixed

like clockwork

>>173264226
Maybe you should take a break anon.

>>173264138
Is this the same anon that was a mistake that needed to be fixed

>>173263251
please stop trying to promote your shitty artist friend. They are garbage, that looks like crap, and they arent welcome here

>>173264226
its the only meme they have at the moment

>>173264327
No need to make it personal, guy

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nerd yuri

nurdi

>>173264307
I won't until (((he))) does.

Hello memer
Hello you stinky memer
Go take a shower ugly.

>>173264138
that's a pretty big misrepresentation of what they actually think

>>173264663
its HENLO you fucking egghead

>>173264710
Don't enable.

>>173264710
What do they think, then, because I'm only going by what they said

>>173264663
I literally just took a shower

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We know Tori likes non-fiction and Alphys likes Manga (and perhaps Undyne by connection)


What do the other Undertales like to read?

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>>173264563
cutes

>>173264710
Don't bother engaging with him, he just deliberately misinterprets and takes things out of context to fit his shitposting narrative.

>>173264901
Gerson likes old history tomes
Asgore likes gardening books
You know, I am unsure as to what Mettaton would read.
Fashion magazines perhaps?
Asriel would read really simple books, like the fluffy bunny book.
Good work?

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>>173264901
Asgore likes high fantasy
Alphys also likes sci-fi
Asriel likes fantasy
Undyne likes shounen and yuri
Papyrus pretends to enjoy non-fiction but really likes silly fantasy stuff
Sans enjoys technical journals and research papers
Toriel also enjoys those trashy romance novels like any good mom
Gaster enjoyed Horror novels before he was voided

>>173265165
the ironic part is that that writefag did a fishlizard fic last night

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>>173264901
Papyrus likes puzzle books
Sans like jokes books or space magazines
i think they both like car magazines
Mettaton loves fashion magazines (they're his)
Flowey doesnt like books but he read them all anyways. don't know about asriel

>>173264901
Sans reads car magazines and quantum physics books or joke books or quantum physics books or joke books or

>>173265269
And it was really cute!
https://pastebin.com/4VkPwY3u

>>173247836
It can be fun but if I were you I'd focus more on the characters first.

>>173265269
Why is that an exception? Shouldn't they always be writing fishlizard fics?

>>173265165
The only argument I've had from the very start is that she hates Alphys and she hates any pairing with her and considering how she twists Undyne and her entire AU for the sole purpose on shitting on her and the way she's stated multiple times she doesn't like fishlizard nor does she like Alphys would you really blame me

I mean sure she does write fics of it sometimes but to me it just feels like scoring brownie points so she can then go on to write another fic where Alphys shows up only to get shat on for no reason

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>>173265691

>>173265663
No?

>>173265691
This post illustrates my point perfectly. These are all distortions or outright lies.

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>>173265964
Fresh from Japan?

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>>173265964
>those two on the top right and bottom left

what in the fresh hell

>>173266224
Beats Mettaton scat.

>>173265691
I'm like genuinely curious as to how you see this because this really doesn't seem to be the case judging from the couple of their fics I've read

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>>173265227
>Toriel also enjoys those trashy romance novels like any good mom

Cute

>>173266403
See >>173265165
They don't hate Alphys or deliberately construct stories to shit on her.

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>>173266150
Nah I saved the image from here some time ago.

>>173266224
You mean the cats? I think the tiger one is actually pretty cute. Would pet.

>>173266037
as a free citizen im exercising my right to not vote

>>173266362
Well yeah, that's not to hard to surpass.

But it doesn't eliminate my questions regarding what I'm looking at.

>>173265898
>https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/8061600/#8129012
>The second, which is really the answer to 'how come you didn't write any Undyne x Alphys stuff when you first started writing for this thread,' is because I never really liked that to get arguably the 'best ending' in the game, you had to overlook all the stuff Alphys had done and get her and Undyne together anyway. I didn't like that I had to do that and so I guess it was only natural that I tried to fix that in my writing, in a manner of speaking, and that's also why I tend to beat on Alphys so much when she shows up.
>I didn't like that [...] so it was only natural I tried to fix that
>I tend to beat on Alphys

If even she herself admits to hating Alphys and writing in a way that shits on her, why can't you

>>173265691
I don't understand this logic?
If someone doesn't like Toriel do they have to force them to include her in any fic that also has Asgore in it? Can there not be a Papyrus focused fic without Sans playing a major role it in?
>>173266589
and a lot of dadfags don't like Toriel and a lot of Papyrusfags don't like Sans

Whats your point?

>>173266726
He's trolling because he wants to drive the contentfags out because the mods won't do it for him even though he's their friend.

>>173266726
It's fine to like Undyne and not like Alphys, it's fine to even write this massive AU that exists to make sure Alphys suffers and (you) hook up with Undyne instead, but it's not fine to constantly shove that in my face and go "Just ask the writer to write something she obviously hates" when you raise any kind of complain or criticism.

>>173266589
>If even she herself admits to hating Alphys and writing in a way that shits on her, why can't you
See, this is a distortion of what you just posted.
From a more recent post

>I think all this stuff about Alphys comes from me not really having thought out where I was going to go with things in those earlier stories where Alphys does get really beat on. There's also the fact that I was sort of assuming people would request more stuff about Alphys than not and I figured that I'd have plenty of room to flesh out that relationship, but that didn't really happen.

>Back in the early stories my train of thought was that if Undyne isn't with Alphys any more, something obviously had to happen to break them up, and rather than go with the Alphys being a shallow whore who breaks up with Undyne out of nowhere, which I've seen other people doing, I figured that a more interesting route would be to have them splitting up due to Undyne being concerned for Alphys. Maybe that wasn't a realistic choice or whatever, but my reasoning was that Undyne would tend toward quick, sweeping judgments without a lot of foresight, and that when you're in a relationship with someone who's genuinely dependent on you, there's really only so much you can do before it becomes glaringly apparent that the only thing you can do is split up, because otherwise there's no chance of improvement at all. Maybe that was the wrong choice, but that was the one I made and those were the reasons behind it.

>In my more recent stuff, I don't think I've really beat on Alphys all that much.

Posted with a cute Alphyne pic no less.

>>173266901
they've said repeatedly that they're willing to write fishlizard stuff if people request it
idk why there's an argument beyond that

here we go again

>>173266972
>>173266996
Stop enabling ((him))).

>>173266901
>people want more fishlizard instead of reader x Undyne
>the writer will write it for them even if they don't personally like the ship
Seems pretty nice of the writer?

Ignore shitters and jam out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAlXfs3Ta_A

Whatcha listening to, /utg/.

>tfw utg is the most alive it ever is when circlejerking about another thread's content creator

>>173267130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNRckSa2N7s

>>173266901
>"Just ask the writer to write something she obviously hates"
Hates so much that they post lots of cute fish lizard pics and went back and fixed a recent story that accidentally treated Alphys harshly?
And besides, you're just doing your usual shctick of finding a wedge issue to exacerbate and get people riled up with. You don't actually care about any of this at all.

>>173266996
Because I don't want to request her to write something she's said she hates and which she made an AU to break up, and yet I kept getting told to do that, over and over again, and when I try to say, "I don't want to request a fic featuring this character and this pairing from someone who hates this character and this pairing," people flip out, and when I try and show why I think she hates this character and this pairing, people flip out, start screaming and calling me Soriel, shit like that.

At this point I've got less of a problem with her than her fucking defense force.

>>173267130
https://youtu.be/cWF1qiWs0L4

>>173267382
Tell me what your favorite fishlizard artist is.
Post your favorite fishlizard pic.

>>173267130
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mujf5kKSBMw

Dedicated to the esports/katawashoujo cabal who demand the end of these thtrads and their assbuddy who is carrying out their plan

>>173267373
Ignore (((him)))

>>173267382
I still don't see where they've said they hate Alphys
all I see is 'I don't really like Alphys but I'll still write stories about her if people want me to'

>>173267664
(((He))) wants you to think she does because (((he))) wants her gone alongwith ALL contentfags.

>>173265323
>Flowey doesnt like books but he read them all anyways.
>don't know about asriel
Dude. They're the same person.

>>173267382
>>173267485
Surely such an ardent Alphyne fan as yourself should be able to name some good artists and post some nice pictures?

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>>173267130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8IChUFEA2s

>>173267382
Okay I think I feel what you're saying. You have some valid criticizm of the way that the writer treats Alphys and when you try to call them out on it people are being annoying and throwing out the old "if you don't like it then don't read it!" thing or just calling you a troll which can be annoying.

But it seems like people are saying that his feelings towards Alphys have softened overtime and because of criticism like yours they've started doing more fishlizard stuff and revisiting older stuff to make it less shitty towards her and trying to be nicer to the character in general.

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>>173267789
i meant when asriel was still alive and not a flower. when he was a kid before all the shit happened
i dont care for the whole 'flowey/asriel same or different' discussion but when i say flowey or asriel im referring to different parts of his life. i dont know what kid asriel would have liked to read.

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>>173267664
>>173267769
Here's the deal

If someone's kicking down chairs and knocking down tables in our restaurant, in our west end town, call the police, because there's a madman around.

Honestly, it matters not if one is "drunk" (shitposting) or not. We don't need this shit in our restaurant. Doesn't matter who's on defense or offence force. They make drama of any kind, then rev up those fryers.

>>173267382
>>173267485
>>173267949
Huh, it's almost like you don't really care about Alphys, Undyne or Alphyne at all, and are just concern trolling to stir up shit.
But hey, I can wait, google searching takes time right?

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>>173267485
I like Isomaru and bin_n0's stuff a lot, but kh is my favorite. Too bad about people like the guys who remove Alphys from their pictures (like the Undyne thread guys) caused them to delete everything and quit.

I've got a lot of fishlizard pics I like, but I like this comic a lot.

>>173267538
>>173267769
This guy. This guy right here is the guy I hate the most. Because I don't support his self-insert fantasy author 100%, I'm actually the "mod's greatest ally." The writer herself is far more civil than he is, to the point I'm starting to think I actually don't hate her, or her writing, I just hate this particular person.

>>173268106
Considering you said "Flowey doesn't like books" while also saying 'I don't know what kid asriel woud have liked to read" shows that there's a contradiction in your rationalization.

If Flowey doesn't like books, neither does Asriel. They are the same person with the same likes and dislikes. The only difference is the lack of a soul.

>>173267970
>>173267769
>>173267664
not him, but several content creators have done stupid-silly stuff over time(dummy vore shit etc), but at least most of those you could tell were just to be ridiculous

this author mentions how the relationship in the game was basically wrong and then proceeds with a fic where alphys lies to undyne about the reader cheating on her, just so they'd have sex

it's a little difficult for me to take that in jest, whether that was a request or not,which is also fine, but I'm clearly not gonna request stuff like that from the afterwards because I get the feeling its like pulling teeth

>>173268367
Thank you for replying. I understand your dislike of self-insert fics but I still don't understand why you think the author hates Alphys or feel like you couldn't request stories with them.
>Too bad about people like the guys who remove Alphys from their pictures (like the Undyne thread guys) caused them to delete everything and quit.
I would like to state that the Undyne thread had nothing to so with this (it happened before the Undyne thread was a thing) and if I knew people in the threads were harrasing artists with their edits I would absolutely lose my shit at them.

>>173268367
Alright, I went through and looked and these are all the stories that feature Alphys in a significant manner, more than just a reference:

https://pastebin.com/VJv1q3SC
https://pastebin.com/wJsCnV4b
https://pastebin.com/mPbYg8se
https://pastebin.com/u2YvcEJi
https://pastebin.com/pLJCnBaq
https://pastebin.com/6g4i2QeT
https://pastebin.com/aPnchQ87
https://pastebin.com/VxJc8rtL
https://pastebin.com/4VkPwY3u

Of the nine stories, Alphys is depicted in a positive or neutral light in five. So you really don't have a leg to stand on.

>>173268367

Even if you aren't you're still a fuckimg cryba-

Oh. Nevermind. I can already tell that you'll import this shit to the undyne thtead anyway.

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>>173267130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlSbPlKQ_dc

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>>173269182
Did we ever figure out what this was?

>>173269267
its a seed from a kind of tropical tree

>>173268392
ok you got me
the original question was 'what do the undertales like to read' and it was perhaps wrong for me to say what i did about flowey/asriel. i was only referencing the game where flowey said he read all the books and he burned all the books. he probably read a lot of things he didnt care for or like in particular, merely because he was bored and it was something else to do he didnt do yet.

asriel isnt one of my favorite characters so i don't know what he would be interested in reading, i dont have a lot of knowledge of his actual character (smaller details about him) and i don't headcanon anything much onto him. the closest i can come up with is some children's books about the power of friendship and things like that. i kind of like the idea he's interested in space stuff but that's from the concept book and 'its not canon™'
i wouldn't know what a young boy would be interested in ok.

>>173267130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggWJLgN-Es i like this

thats a strange silence

>>173268878
>but I'm clearly not gonna request stuff like that from the afterwards because I get the feeling its like pulling teeth
Then don't. I mean you can still make fun of the writefag and those Reader-sama jokes are pretty amusing.

>>173269006
>Of the nine stories, Alphys is depicted in a positive or neutral light in five. So you really don't have a leg to stand on.
>include the aforementioned lying about cheating for sex

anon...

>>173269626
He just listed all the stories Alphys has been in. That one probably isn't one of the five hes talking about

>>173269619
>Then don't.
wasn't planning to, I'm just trying to make you understand that maybe some people have legit issues, rather than just whatever trolling boogeyman we pull out of the closet for the moment.

>>173242168
Classic Papyrus.

>>173269737
I'm a bit amused by the fact that the proof is a barely over 50% percentage of Alphys being treated at least neutrally, much less outright positively.

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>>173269786
indeed

looks like he ran out of ammo, he directly mentioned the thread directly then disappeared when got proven wrong

>>173268878
>this author mentions how the relationship in the game was basically wrong
They said something vague about not feeling it was "deserved", I personally do not agree but I didn't let it bother me. Maybe with more Alphys requests they would have warmed up to the character.

>it's a little difficult for me to take that in jest, whether that was a request or not,
i'm pretty sure that was a request, and also a fairly early story.

>but I'm clearly not gonna request stuff like that from the afterwards because I get the feeling its like pulling teeth
At this point the only reason it would be like pulling teeth is because of all the headaches this stuff has caused them.

>>173268936
It's not so much that I couldn't, but more that I don't want to.
Basically, this guy:
>>173268878
Puts it more elegantly than I do. Sure, she might write fics where Alphys is shown in a positive light, but she also wrote a massive fic where Alphys is made into a complete shit person, and that's what I can't stop thinking about when I read the rest of these and what I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about if I actually got a fic I requested. Combine that with what she's said about wanting to "fix" the "error" that she thinks Alphyne is, too.

That's the reason why I don't want to request a fic from her, and when I try to explain that, I get this guy
>>173269142
On my ass screeching that I'm a troll or whatever. And that's just not cool at all.

>>173267130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4g0hfxu1dw

>>173269757
and that's cool. Like I said here >>173267970 you have legit criticism.

I think people are just annoyed because its been turned into a bit of a meme to shit on them and because of a certain weirdo trying to drive out contentfags (not that it really applies in this situation anyways since the writefag doesn't even post here).

I'm sure people understand and agree with you but its one of those things were it already happened and its in the past now. The writer is apparently trying to not be a jerk and bash on Alphys anymore so that's really all you can hope for in a situation like this.

>>173270125
Maybe if your question didn't look lime a troll post, I would've respected it. Sorry for the trouble dude.

>>173269757
Let me see if I can explain this. The reason people think you're trolling is because while it's completely valid to complain about the writer's preferences or whatever, that same writer has said repeatedly that they don't HATE Alphys and that they'll write stories about them if people ask. The writer is essentially asking for a chance to prove you wrong, to show that they don't have some crazy vendetta against Alphys, but instead of doing what any normal person would do and requesting a story or whatever, you act so incredibly affronted that someone else doesn't like the same fictional character that you do and you turn your nose up and say 'nope, not even gonna bother, don't like alphys? pssh what a shit writer' rather than acknowledging that, as people have pointed out, that was one of the first 15 stories they wrote or something, and that they could have evolved beyond then.

That's what makes people think you're trolling, because you are acting like you're afraid to be proven wrong. If you requested a fic and they still made Alphys look like an asshole, then people would probably be more sympathetic to you, but instead it comes off like you're afraid that they wouldn't make Alphys look like an asshole just so you can keep complaining about them in a thread they don't even visit. Have you even tried talking to them about it? AFAIK they're pretty active in the Undyne thread on /trash/.

>>173270125
> but she also wrote a massive fic where Alphys is made into a complete shit person, and that's what I can't stop thinking about when I read the rest of these and what I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about if I actually got a fic I requested.
This is what I don't understand. Even though the stories have a sort of loose "continuty" They're usually all standalone. Why would you be thinking about a story you don't like when you could have a story that you DO like?

>Combine that with what she's said about wanting to "fix" the "error" that she thinks Alphyne is, too.
I think you're taking way to much out of that statement.

Also the reason people thought you were a troll and reacted so hostilely is because your initial complaints matched a known troll's posting habits pretty much exactly.

>>173270795
Wow, that's
really fuckin cute

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>>173270648
Well, that's odd.

But I like it.

Also, taking requests.

>>173270648
Is this a Smosh reference

>>173270889
Yeah its really adorable
>>173270907
Asgore raking leaves with his trident

>>173270907
Asgore petting anon, please

>>173270907
Undyne juggling Frisk and Asriel

>>173270907
Alphys blowing her brains out after reading mean comments on the internet about her

>people still have arguments about why they hate certain characters

>>173270907
Asriel onedeags Chara

>>173270872
Ok, here's an analogy: If someone wrote a massive story about Asgore suddenly becoming an abusive rapist to justify Sans showing up to be the cool hero who wipes Toriel off her feet, would you trust them to write a ToriGorey fic, or Asgore at all?

>>173271403
I mean we had people fighting about why they hated Asgore / Toriel not even three threads ago and why people didn't like Sans last thread.

Its just a thing that happens

SOrry to >>173270125

I overreacted because I thought he was a certain person who wanted the contentfags gone. Now that it seems his concerns are legit I feel bad.

I think I need a break.

>>173271513
Yes? If they're a good writer it doesn't matter what the content is, they can make it work. And if this hypothetical writer literally only does requests, of course I'd 'trust' them to.

>>173271513
(I'm the Alphyne guy, not the Asgore guy) but if they can write torigory well, and don't actually hate the ship or the character, sure, why not?

>>173271513
No

>>173270469
fucking hell, I only posted that one criticism and already you're pulling everything on me
>some crazy vendetta against Alphys
not what I said.
>you act so incredibly affronted that someone else doesn't like the same fictional character that you do
not what I said.
>you turn your nose up and say 'nope, not even gonna bother, don't like alphys? pssh what a shit writer'
not what I fucking said and fuck you doubly for even insinuating that.

you're being extremely defensive over something I had legitimate issue with and your major line of defense is "well they'll write it differently, ask them", as well as immediately assuming I said a single fucking word about the quality of their writing, when I never even mentioned that. but whatever, at this point you've pretty much decided this writer is untouchable, so have fun with them. nothing I say would make even a dent in that giant adamantium fucking hugbox you've erected just now.

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Holy shit can we just drop it at this point? Everything important has already been said and now we're just getting to the point where people are having fights about tone and junk instead of the actual issue

Post your favorite ship

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>>173270907
Yeah I'm playing around with two pet projects simultaneously.

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Fucking hell, doing damage control on /utg/ is like trying to calm down sharks in a feeding frenzy by throwing pieces of meat at them.

I just want everyone to be able to enjoy the things they like. Enjoying things doesn't have to be a zero-sum game.

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>>173272687
i dont know whats going on but ok

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>>173272687

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>>173272687

>>173272992
I don't agree with several of the criticism, when they go beyond silly memes
However, I also don't think that jumping in to defend against any and all complaints, like it's the final trench, is helping either

I wish both parties would just have a giant angry orgy and be done with it.

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wew lad imagine if you had just literally talked to the writer instead of complaining here

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>>173272687
Okay. It has scientifically been proven that this is the cutest ship.

>>173272393
And this is exactly why people thought you wre trolling

>>173273420
>However, I also don't think that jumping in to defend against any and all complaints, like it's the final trench, is helping either
Having complaints is absolutely fine, but refusing to do things that would help address your complaints is just, I dunno, needless bashing.
But whatever, I'm tired now and just want the fighting to stop.

>>173273584
Dude drop it already instead of being a smug asshole about it. No one likes the kind of guy who does that

>>173273584
i wish you all would take this garbage discussion to the undyne thread

>>173273820
I don't want to rag on you, but even seriously replying to what I said tells me that you're taking this extremely seriously and it's not doing you any favors.

>>173273584
Don't be that guy.

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>>173272687

>>173273917
>>173273584

>importing drama

You have to go back

>>>/v/

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posting a cool dude with some cool friends

>>173273792
sorry, but I take it a little personally when I'm patronized and get words put in my mouth like that

>>173274239
It's alright. I've engaged in too much foot in mouth myself today.

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>>173274167

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>>173270997
>

Since I couldn't finish it today, I'm posting the first part of it on imgur.

http://imgur.com/a/lQeOn

If it isn't done by tomorrow, then the full thing will be posted saturday along with something else.

>>173274470
I turned my phone upside down and it looks really cute! Thanks

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>>173274470
>>173274563

Why does it show it right side up when i see it on file explorer.

>>173274470
Spider goat, spider goat...

>>173273987
>you're taking this extremely seriously and it's not doing you any favors.
I am taking it seriously, because we could have had a thing going that would have satisfied everyone instead of a dumb fight and potentially alienating yet another content maker. But it's too late now.

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>>173274658
Nothing that can't be fixed in paint

>>173274842
Well, alright then

I've got to get a proper scanner.

>>173274390
Why are Alphys closest (known/public) friends tall over-the-top-and-arrogant one-eyed exroverts that have a special stronger form they attain only in Genocide with special themes that share a similar motif?

>>173273584
Wait wouldn't the most logical option have been to just not have the story take place in whatever continuity the reader character shows up in

>>173275287
Yes, but they like to tie their stories into one continuity for some reason, even when it makes things kind of awkward.

>>173274813
From where I'm standing, both sides embarassed themselves something fierce. Those with criticism stood up too harshly, but I can't say that everything they said was completely unfounded. That's the perception they got from all the info they saw, it may have been overblown, but at the end it was basically interpretation vs interpretation, and they gave their reasons why they didn't want to follow up on it, even if they ended up being jackasses along the way. I'm not giving you a pass though either, because I swear I thought I came across some kind of religious sect by the end, as a lot of suggested 'solutions' basically boiled down to 'please talk to our bishop and you'll see the light'. I'm exaggerating, sure, but that's what it resembled to me by the end and all of it was handled with the underlying tone of everything they said is wrong anyway.

What I'm getting at is that everyone might wanna just lighten up and grab a drink or something.

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Late nth for lifting for this goat! Growing muscle everyday for this goat!

>>173275712
How much you been gaining, anon

>>173275712
Do you think she would like you to carry her onto the bed?

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>>173275808
In truth not too much this week. Work has gotten in the way of some of it. But after this week I should be back on track

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>>173275901
I think she'd still crush me

But I'm getting better!

>>173275694
There were absolutely people on my "side" that I wished had shut up, and I'm sure I said some stupid thing too. I usually do.
>I swear I thought I came across some kind of religious sect by the end, as a lot of suggested 'solutions' basically boiled down to 'please talk to our bishop and you'll see the light'.
The solution I was referring to was to just make more Alphyne requests so there are more Alphyne stories. There's no way to unwrite what has been written, and outside of forcing the writeanon to make some tumblr-esque self flagellatory apology that's pretty much the only thing that can be done.

I love holding a pose for several minutes until it's absolute agony and then jelloing out and soaking in the un-pain

Which characters work their tush the most?

After all this time, I still want to save the goat. After all this time I still want everyone, and I mean EVERYONE to be happy.

Damn you toby, why can't you just give us hard mode or SOMETHING new?

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>>173275712
>tfw muscles but also fat
body no

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>>173276939
>ff7
alright you lost me

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Well, I haven't been here in quite a long time.

...why did I came back to this place?

>>173277267
Because you love us~

>>173277267
The better question is what is up with that sans

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>>173277267
because everyone comes back in the end
>>173277360
Its undefell Sans

>>173276440
>The solution I was referring to was to just make more Alphyne requests so there are more Alphyne stories. There's no way to unwrite what has been written, and outside of forcing the writeanon to make some tumblr-esque self flagellatory apology that's pretty much the only thing that can be done.
I doubt anyone even wants that. Not to mention, if they have a grievance towards the author, I really don't see how asking them to request things anyway is going to solve things. Maybe just acknowledge that there's some people who due to reasons don't want to deal with the author, their style or their stories and just leave it at that? Building bridges is good, but it's not necessarily viable in every single situation.

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>>173277332
That might be true...
>>173277360
Fell sans just had a really bad day, but goatdad is helping him with that.

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>>173277438
>underfell sans
>green

Fool me once

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>>173277259
That was just the default file name lol. I don't know either
>>173277165
Hit that treadmill. Burn fat, expose muscles

>>173277569
Its from an old now dead ask blog that shipped their version of Underfell Asgore and Underfell Sans

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>>173277648
>an old now dead ask blog that shipped their version of Underfell Asgore and Underfell Sans
I think I know what that ask blog is

Is it the one where Asgore gets preggies with sans' seed?

>>173278021
Yes

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>>173278021
>the one where Asgore gets preggies with sans' seed?
What the hell

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>>173278232
Mpreg sure is a weird thing.

but it's cute sometimes

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Have some fresh determined kids!
Also taking some simple doodle requests once again!

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>>173278480
>spoiler

Well, I mean, different strokes for different folks I guess, but...

just....

naw man

>>173278502
Asgore showing Chara a giant chocolate cake with birthday candles and her name on it

>>173277440
>Maybe just acknowledge that there's some people who due to reasons don't want to deal with the author, their style or their stories and just leave it at that? Building bridges is good, but it's not necessarily viable in every single situation.
And I'd be totally cool with that, what I take issue with is the shitposting about it both here and in the Undyne thread, and the spreading of false information (The writeanon hates Alphys/won't do stories with her, the thread launches attacks on Alphyne artists, etc)

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>>173278502

Undyne as Ivan

>>173278764
>the thread launches attacks on Alphyne artists
No one ever accused the Undyne thread of that. It was a korean thing

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>>173278502
Asriel wearing a space marine costume made out of cardboard

I can't believe that the Undyne thread hates Alphys and that the undyne writefag wrote a story about Sans fucking Undyne while Alphys and Asgore cry in a corner and jerked off

>>173279480
They also had reader jacking off

>>173278980
>No one ever accused the Undyne thread of that.
>>173268367
>Too bad about people like the guys who remove Alphys from their pictures (like the Undyne thread guys) caused them to delete everything and quit.

>It was a korean thing
It was a western thing and it did seem to at least peripherally involve 4chan, or people who frequented 4chan, but it was before the Undyne threads were a thing.
The remnants of it:
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%23removealphys%20include%3Aretweets

>>173279480
I can't believe that the undyne writefag wrote KEK PORN where reader FUCKED undyne in front of her true love PAPYRUS and forced him to watch

>>173278502
Papyrus busting through a wall like the Kool-Aid man

>>173279685
To be fair momfags also did that to Asgore and Asrielfags removed Chara from pictures so its not like its just limited to the fishfags

>>173279787
The writefag actually did that though

Remember that trolls won't drop it until they're ignored, even when they're wrong.

>>173279787
>>173279967
Reminder that soriel requested this.
Soriel requested a cuckold fic.

>>173279967
>>173280039
Wait, really?

>>173277556
aw well regardless, glad to see you're back, anon. Stick around and post with us for a while, yeah?

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>>173280039
>tfw enjoy Chastity
>its almost always linked to cuck stuff now which I hate
>>173280171
yeah

>>173280171
he's witchhunting and blanket calling sorielfag again

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>>173272687
late but i'm gonna post it anyway

best ship desu

>>173280171
Yeah. He also specifically requested Papyrus.

>>173280242
Shut up soriel, you know you jacked off to it.

>>173280171
Behold, a masterpiece: https://pastebin.com/eRGzCbs4

>>173280171
Yes the writefag wrote it, we have no idea who requested it.

Thread Theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvYfRiJQIX8

>>173280406
It was soriel. He was trolling the thread that day making dumb requests. He immediately posted on /utg/ when it was done with "has the Undyne thread gone too far?"

>>173280473
sad, but true.

>>173280525
Pretty sure we're all anonymous here. Even if he did that's pretty funny.

Any news about a possible sequel?

>>173280675
>Pretty sure we're all anonymous here.
Of course, but some people have fairly distinctive writing styles and posting habits. And since he was on /utg/ at the same time I'm pretty sure it was him.

>>173280876
Nope

Bad dog says no

>>173280909
We can't be sure either way I guess.

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What'chu listening to, /utg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fk2BaM1la0

>>173280240
i dont often go around looking for porn but i think chastity is kind of interesting, but wow that amount of cuck stuff really is a turn off. i feel you bro.

>>173281709
Theres a few good fics that just have it as part of bondage which is really hot but yeah.

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>>173281614
Excellent adrenaline music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BbvCC0VI0

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>>173281614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QfZd6u7HWU