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ONE MORE HOUR GET HYPE EDITION!

This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate).
tags: /cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

Previous thread: >>173124736

>Stellaris Resources
- Mod archive https://mega.nz/#F!hpBCSbCC!vZNs1Qhip_UJQPSSdoZjUg
- Mod recommendations http://pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh

>Endless Legend Resources
Manual http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
Wiki 1 http://endless-legend.wikia.com/wiki/Endless_Legend_Wiki
Wiki 2 http://endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Civilization Resources
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) http://well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
- CivFanatics Database and Forums http://www.civfanatics.com/
- Wiki of all Civ games http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Civilization_Games_Wiki
- Browser Civ game, similar to civ2 https://play.freeciv.org
- /civ4xg/ steam group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/civ4xg

>Civilization VI
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba (embed) (embed)

>Civilization V
- CIVILOPEDIA Online (Civ V) http://www.dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
- Civ V drafter http://georgeskleres.com/civ5/
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - http://www.multiplayerrobot.com

>Civilization modding
- Wiki for Civ modding http://modiki.civfanatics.com/index.php/Main_Page
- Civ V mod workshop http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX) resources
- Essential improvements http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements
- Official short stories https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri
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Who's ready for disappointment?
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>>173225339
https://www.twitch tv/paradoxinteractive

Link to the stream for those who are interested.
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And the species you'll being sending to Utopia first is...?
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Welcome to the Stellaris strip-club.

You get to pick ONE (1) species portrait, and you will get a private dance from the most attractive female (or male, if you're into that) from that race.

You cannot pick from the humanoid races

We cater to many kinds here. Which one you want?
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>>173225339

Is the Plantoids DLC a must have?
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>>173225583
Absolutely 100% it enhances the game so much!
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>>173225583
No but their ships are the most aesthetically pleasing. This DLC is purely cosmetic.
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Who /realniggahours/ here?
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>>173225474
If by Utopia you mean sending the xenos to their perfect life in the ovens, humans
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>>173225563
>>173225474
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>>173225461
>rohirrimDAAN : blorg hive empire for the win
>Aexrael : I wonder if Blorg were given the extra tasty trait, so they can better attract new friends.
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>DLC is still not up
whate the fuck
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g-guys?
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IT'S UP
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>>173225925
Banks is out now, DLC will be out in a hour.
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I HAVE PARADOX NOW FUCK RELEASE THE DLC FUUUUUUK
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Banks is out. No Utopia yet.
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NYYYYYAAAAAAARGGGGGGHHHHHH
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>>173226057
>>173226294
>>173225945
Watch the stream >>173225461 or start up banks and figure out what you build is going to be when utopia hits.
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>>173225663

Yeah but are those species even in the game without the DLC?
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>mfw less than 45 minutes
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>>173226460
No.
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Lets hope my torrented version will auto update...

If not, who's gonna be a big man and upload?
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>Stellaris and EUIV DLC at the same time
Fuck I don't know what to play
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>>173226640
Is the mandate of heaven the new divine wind?
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>>173226713
Ive got a mandate for a divine wind right here.

*unzips pants*

BRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPP
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Anyone here playing steel division normandy?
It feels kinda shit so far
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>>173226885
See >>173224228
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In preparation for Utopia, what Human faction should I create? Is there a pastebin with a template or anything? Are there mods with /civ4xg/ approved factions?
By that I mean Grossgermaniums, The Papacy, United States of Earth, Imperium Romanum, Imperium of Man, etc.
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>>173227145
Terran Federation
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>>173227145
There are going to be broader choices for customization once utopia releases so wait an hour. One tip for IoM, don´t be THAT faggot that picks millitarism/xenophobe and forgets about spiritualism
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>Humans
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>>173227312
>fly traps
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>>173226537
> mfw planned to intentionally not buy Utopia and just playing a Banks game first so I can enjoy two changes to the metagame rather than one
> I could have smugly posted my starting race right now
> instead I'm stuck on the subway phoneposting
Fuck ypu, God
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>>173227145
Go diplomatic, biological mastery. Try to be friends with everyone, get as many races as you possibly can into your planets as fast as you can. Open to everyone and everything.

Best way to test and see if
1. the biological path is worth a damn
2. if the internal diplomacy even matters if you flood yourself with alien races
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>>173226885
I'm enjoying it, it's like wargame and RUSE put together.
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>>173227362
Thank fuck that federations are actually somewhat useable now since they fixed the ago old bug where you couldn't have control over the fleet even as president
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>>173227312
>>173227350
I wonder if these twos are automatically enemies.
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should i pooplaris and get bored in 2 hours or poopopa unipoopalis 4 and get bored in 2 hours?
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>>173227145
Space Prussia. An authoritarian powerful but small nation. Your goal is to build tall and expand your fleet at all cost. Then bully everyone in your federation.
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Can I create a space Sweden?
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>>173227514
You probably should only have negative traits then.
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>>173227514
Yes there's a Refugees Welcome option.
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>>173227145
> Stellaris has been out for 11 months
> people are STILL playing human builds
I mean come on, it's OK for the first playthrough and maybe a second one sometime if you wanna see both the Commonwealth and democrashit event trees, but eleven months?
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>>173227597

>fanatic pacifist
>individualist
>nomad
>weak
>somthing gay and cucky
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>>173227514
But of course
Now accept the refugees from the fast breeding spiritualists and change your government to a less haram one
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>>173227514
you'd have to be a vassal to prove how progressive and tolerant you are
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The update is out
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>rezmar is going to upload eu4 stuff first
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>>173227684

Your forgetting Fanatic Xenophile
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>>173227483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRD-mr7AHyw
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>>173227787
I opened that video expecting preubens gloria ear rape. That was pretty gay.
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>>173227650
>Playing anything other than humans
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>Prethoryns can destroy ringworlds
Neat
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>Inwards Perfection requires both Xenophobe AND Pacifist.
Damn it.
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>>173227878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI9uYqlDejU
gotchu senpai
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>>173227878
>Shitting on Dvorak
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>>173227650
But how do you name everything when you are not playing human or connect with your empires' species? I don't have time to come up with a new language to name everything. Those generic names are shit and don't mean anything if you don't understand the language.

>>173227787
And name your federation The European Union. :^)
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>>173227773
Raises the intriguing question of whether Sweden is Fanatic Pacifist, Xenophile... or Fanatic Xenophile, Pacifist?

Not even sure they can count as genetically weak, cos of we wuz vikangs n sheet.
The one trait I definately would give them is slow learners. Maybe slow breeders too, they do love getting outbred by Lil' Achmeds.
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>there are """people""" who play as anything other than molluscoids
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>>173228020
Obviously you need to mod the game to give you 4 ethic points so that you can both a fanatical pacifist and a fanatical xenophile
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>>173228004
>But how do you name everything when you are not playing human or connect with your empires' species?
"Epsilon Eridani III"
"Ter Meku VI"
The rest I leave to the autonamer.
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>>173228040
Go back to your ringworld you fedora tipping faggot, you're a fallen empire for a reason
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>>173228020

>slow breeders

Its funny because its why there so cucked
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>>173228101
just fanatic xenophile + pacifist is fine
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Who /isaac arthur/ here?
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>>173228141
You'll regret that when he awakens and shoves 100k+ fleets down your dickhole, faget
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>>173228184
fuck. I'm lurking and listening to him now.
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>>173227878
I wasn't gonna make any aliens into Livestock on my first run but you've convinced me otherwise.
>>173228040
Arthropoids > Molluscoids = Fungoids > Humans > Humanoids > Reptilians > Avians > Mammalians > Plantoids
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>>173228184
His voice is weird
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH1W0i5gl8I
Who here ready to deliver God´s message as empire of human fanatics?
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Reminder that Mammalian women were made to be slaves to the Big Arthropoid cock

pussy ass monkey boys can't even compete
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>>173228349
Turk pls go
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>>173228040
birbs > why aren't you picking birbs?
take the emu looking ones and make your dudes infest other space nations and shit up their shit
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>>173228349
Go away Turk
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>>173228349
Based space turks
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>>173228349
>Turk makes arthropoids look back again
Every time.
>>173228429
Get out Swede.
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>>173228139
But the autonamer is shit and then the name of your home system wouldn't be in line with the grammar of the other names. I just like to name this with meaningfull names.

>>173228246
>Not playing as glorious pacifist spiritualist venarable trees and focus on making them become as old as possible.
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>7 minutes
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Real talk though. Why is there only one bagpipe song in existence? Every single time I hear bagpipes being played it always sounds the fucking same.
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Torrent when?
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>>173228553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMHVPPe2VAQ
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I NEED IT
I NEED IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>173228349
>Says the fucking pleb who's probably been invited to the galaxy
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>Aspec gets a mention instream
Noice.
>>173228508
I play venerable plant slavers from time to time.
>>173228573
Most bagpipe songs are covers of other songs.
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>>173228645
>>Aspec gets a mention instream
he's an ex paracuck employee
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Playing some AOE2 again. It seems to be Imperial Age simulator. All the other ages are just building up, except maybe castle. But as soon as a castle goes up you need imp trebuchets to take it down. There's not even any reason for there to be military units in dark at all. Feudal is not much better, you really can't get a good raid in until 3/4ths past the tech tree even. I understand the town center is there to prevent early raiding but it's honestly too effective.
Most of the fighting takes place in Imperial. Honestly it's like this with most of the "age up" style games I've played. Including rise of nations. It's just spamming upgrades until you hit the endgame and then the fighting can actually begin.

Empire Earth seems much better balanced, with meaningful fights taking place all along the tech tree, maybe it's just because it's such a deep tree with so many ages. But I think the upgrades are probably paced better compared to the cost and effectiveness of units. You have viable means of overcoming defences even from the stone age. And a well placed early volcano can be just a devastating as a nuke.
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>>173228621
>says the guy who doesn't even HAK HAK HAK
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Just got a 69kb update
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It's out now
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ITS OUT!
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None of you are cool enough to play as a plant!
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THE TIME IS NOW!
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How does one start a hive mind?
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What ethics/traits/government/starting tech type should I go if I wanted to go Ancap paradise in space? Naturally I can't use hyperlanes since roads are expressly verboten.
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FUCKING BUY IT AND UPLOAD IT FOR THE REST OF US
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TOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEEEENTT WHEEENNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>Still no fucking torrent
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>>173228779
>UPLOAD IT

Fuck you, Ima play it nigga! Maybe tomorrow when I have time!
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>>173228718
I disagree. Raiding in early game is extremely efficient, and you can very easily choke the AI and force it to surrender, or considerably slow it down.

Remember : you don't have to destroy the town center, you can just kill all the villagers and make the AI give up.

>>173228739
Well, I can leave 4chan happy, I know that general won't fall off the board for a few days.
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>>173228778
Utopia living standards is Egalitarian only, ancaps can not into paradise.
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>>173228778
wormholes are more like roads since they need public infrastructure to work, hyperlanes are a natural resource, but warp is probably the best since each ship needs its own drive that a private crew could acquire independently
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How can i pirate dlc? If it matters, Im a snownigger but white
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Have fun anons, may you spread across the stars. I will join you tomorrow.
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can I still buy base game and just pirate all dlcs?
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wait for rezmar
update is 860mb and he has poor serbian internet
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=68551
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>>173228885
villagers are faster than militias and once they garrison up the TC will melt any feudal army you send at it pretty much, so you need to rush feudal to raid but by the time you have a reasonable force they're basically already in castle and have started to wall
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>>173228645
I would like an even bigger trait bonus to make trees that can become hundreds of years old.

>>173228621
Wouldn't it be cool if psionic ascension would make you the unbidden in the other dimension

>>173228721
And the victory condition for a hive mind would involve you sending a huge fleet to another galaxy and become the scourge.
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>>173229006
>white
I've been to toronto, you don't need to lie.
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>>173229038
you can for all paradox things
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>>173229097
Im russian though. So how do I do this?
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>>173228874
FUCKING REPTILIANS
UPLOAD IT NOW NOW NOW
>>173229065
>I would like an even bigger trait bonus to make trees that can become hundreds of years old.
With venerable you should be getting the lifespan increasing tech long before you see any leader deaths, at least in my experience.
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>>173229124
thanks, how do I do it tho, I'm dumb as fuck, so I don't know
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>>173228508
> But the autonamer is shit and then the name of your home system wouldn't be in line with the grammar of the other names. I just like to name this with meaningfull names.
You're not wrong, but as has been previously pointed out, making a new language for each game is exhausting.
I do sometimes give planets relevant names; they'll usually relate to something I recently did in-game. Last playthrough I made a colony at the same time as I was fighting the Stellarite Devourer and called it Corona's Wrath, that sorta thing
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>>173229132
wait for your fellow kinsmen to crack it first
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>>173229257
dlc doesn't need a crack though, does it?
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UGH GIVE ME MY PSYKERS
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>>173228739
>Have to go to work in 25 minutes.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

FUCKITY FUCKING FUCK SHIT DICK SHITS
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>>173229151
>download dlc
>put dlc in dlc folder
>for some of them you need a dlc activator
there's a link in the thread to a russian site where a guy uploads all the paradox games, he shitposts on gsg sometimes too
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The new soundtrack is amazing!

Now which Hive Mind traits do I pickle?
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>>173229310
That's what you get for living in Burgerland time zone. I just came home from work 30 min ago! Let the Utopium begin!
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>>173229310
I just came from work and absolutely free
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How do you deal with nigger pops?
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>>173229221
Yeah I mostly name ship types after succesful generals/admirals. Planets I name after leaders in general, science planets after good scientists specific. And if I play spiritualist I sometimes come up with a few gods for a pantheon to name my planets/stars. But coming up with a new language each game to have logical names is to exhausting for me.
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Welp, shit. Here we go again with all the mods going into the trashcan.
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>>173229334
I don't even know what any of those things do I haven't paid attention to anything.
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>>173229296
steamfix
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>>173229692
wut i used the older dlcs pirated with no cracks
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So what the fuck is this?
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>Paradox didn't allow white to be one of the flag colours

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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>>173229963
just wait a couple of days vodkanigger, if you don't want to pay with rubles you pay with time
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>>173229048
You don't need to attack the garrisson, you can just siege it. If they stay inside, they can't work.
I won most of my AoE2/SWGB at the second age.
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>>173230045
Too racist for their current standards.
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So, can anybody upload Utopia folder?
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>>173230064
Nah, it will available in an hour max
t.different vodkanigger
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What are you running for first game?
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>>173230171
>Stellaris Utopia.exe

heh
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>>173230026
Something tells me it wasn't supposed to be there.
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>>173230171
CONFIRMATION REQUIRED
DOES IT WORK
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>start with colony ships
u wot
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>>173230189
Of all the new endgame evolutions you could've chosen you went for the most boring one.
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>>173230171
>Stellaris Utopia.exe
>9 Mb
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>>173230250
because everyone took the colonist thing first anyway
especially because if you didn't take it you don't know when it shows up again
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>>173230232
its legit though
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>>173230171
>3dm
Codex cracked it though, go check crackwatch.
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>>173230171
Looks fishy as fuck.
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I tried my best

Efficient bureaucracy for 'muh land'
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>>173230171
>free in the title
>.exe file
I'm having some doubts.
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>>173230298
That was fast.
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>>173230189
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my hivemind found this in the enigmatic fortess system
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>>173230171
>Stellaris Utopia.exe
>.exe
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>>173230356
>russian
>repugnant

fits.
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>>173230298
It's a completely different file.
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so, given that my current save files and saved empires are pre-utopia, what happens when I install utopia? do they get re-imagined to fit the new ethics system? deleted? should I delete them myself first?
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>>173230356
>repugnant
-15 to all diplomacy seems harsh but fair.
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>>173230452
They recommend a new game.
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>>173230171
V I R U S
I
R
U
S
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>>173230189
We don't take kindly to fedoras 'round these parts boy.
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>>173230298
Is this legit?
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>>173230428
>>173230284
>>173230232
>>173230640
Stop entertaining viruses unironically you naive faggots. Rezmar is working on it, it will be up in a few hours

https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=68551&sid=0959fe82a8c6a4348610da6c930d1be5&start=1350
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>>173230625
whoa that is a one cute butt
>>
igg-games has it up on mega/gdrive.
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>>173230171
This one is legit: http://extratorrent.cc/torrent/5558096/Stellaris+Utopia-CODEX.html
Check trackers.
>>
projectiles or lasers or missiles?
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>>173230796
Never go missiles.
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>>173230773
It's up on piratebay as well. Someone needs to confirm if it's good, though.
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http://igg-games.com/stellaris-utopia-free-download.html
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>>173230686
>access to private tracker
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Is this legit?
https://ukpirate.click/torrent/17497455/Stellaris_Utopia-CODEX
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>>173230921
download it and try it
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>>173230921
>0921Is this legit?
Apparently yes. Does it have all dlcs though?
>>
Stellaris Utopia-CODEX new
Added in Games :: PC on 2017-04-06 15:08:17

:3
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>>173230796
railguns, later add plasma to melt armor
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>>173230887
>has private tracker
>uses utorrent
>uses utorrent past 2.2.1
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>>173230390
Hah, in the future niggers are still slaves
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>>173230887
>access to public websites
I'm self limiting it to 2mb/s, mega can literally fill your entire bandwidth.
Also
>2017
>still using uTorrent
God's sake mate.
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>>173227987
>be boob man
>friend is ass man
>never have conflict due to differing taste in women
that picture is shit
>>
Are you all being ironic? Does this actually make the game better? Because Stellaris has never been anything but disappointment after disappointment after the first half hour.
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>>173228349
turkey pls
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I hope there's an update for the 1080p ui mod soon, this is fucking horrible
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>>173230171
this is a trojan dont download
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>>173230175
I hope so,
>>
>tfw want to play stellaris, but no money for all dlcs

I legit am too autistic to play pirated games, because I can't justify playing a game and not getting the achievements. I want to die.
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>>173231092
*shrugs*

i loved stellaris from the start

name one other space-game that has these criteria:

1.non-autistic UI
2.pleasant graphics
3.live out power fantasies
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>>173231248
you can pirate the dlc's and still get steam achievements without getting bent
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>>173231248
Well you're not going to buy it anyways so pirating or not won't make any fucking difference now, will it ?
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>>173231092
of course it doesn't, but these niggers need a fantasy to cling to
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>not being part of my sekrit club
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>>173231274
>*shrugs*
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>>173231248
You're not autistic. If anything, you're a decent human being and not a huge hypocrit.
>>
So if I have an original copy of stellaris but no dlcs, can I just download this update, install it over my copy, crack it and it will play online?
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>>173231248
>fallinf for the achievements meme
Good goy, give us your Shekels!!!
>>
>>173231274
star wars empire at war
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>>173231274
Galactic Civ 3?
Sins of a Solar Empire
Emperor of the Fading Suns?
>>
Im kinda glad autists here with zero experience with pirating don´t want to download the codex torrent. More DL speed for me it seems
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>>173231396
All of them are worse than Stellaris though.
>>
SteamFix when?
>>
Should I go full purge or displacement?
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>>173231384
not really, I just can't play a game if there's no goal to reach.
>>
Does that one torrent on PB has also all the previous DLCs?
I'm a bit worried that the previous torrent weights 1Gb more than this one.
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@173231512 (You)
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>>173231306
thanks, didn't know that pirated dlcs gib me achievements
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>>173231560
Do they allow pirated dlc to work with steam versions still? It doesnt work with CK2 anymore
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>>173227145
Make an ottoman empire.
Pick militarist xenophile and whatever you think would suit it.
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>>173231248

I know that feel
>>
>Hivemind can't become robots
Fuck, I wanted to have AI hivemind.
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>>173231584
Woah, so edgy. *tips fedora*
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>>173231584
hi reddo
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Rate my turtles

>tfw can't play til later
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>>173231634
?
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>>173231792
I would like to know more.
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>>173231723
wait for mods, anon
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>>173231814
I dunno, it stopped working for me and so did HIP. Now im fucking depressed.
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Is it me or is that stupidly good?
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>>173231875
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>>173231792
I'm annoyed that citizen service is so useless, +15% fleet cap. But I need it for getting my democratic government named "Citizen's Republic" which is as close as I get to "Military Republic".

Also egalitarian is required for utopian living conditions, materialists can't give their people more consumer goods to be happy?
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>>173231814
>military orders unit pack
Wait a minute...
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>>173232034
>reptiles
>on arctic world
explain
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>>173232070
?
it's just unit skins for knights templar or hospitaller
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>>173232069
>egalitarian is required for utopian living conditions
Sweden gonna Sweden
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>>173232034
Why the terrible mammal ships if you're reptiles?
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>>173232069
>citizen service is so useless, +15% fleet cap
T-that's why I thought it was good..
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>>173230429
Their women are qt though!
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Is there a torrent already?
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crack is legit
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>>173232034
That natural engineers is wasted, if you need it you can engineer it later in your specie on specialized planets.
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>>173231925
By the time you reach it all planets will already have been surveyed.
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>>173232146
STELLARIS IS FANTASY NOT SCI-FI REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173232167
I like the look of them better.

>>173232243
What should I take?
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>>173231038
>Neo-Chimp
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>>173232149
Ha, just skins. I hoped it was something that allowed you to lead combats or something. As much as I like Paradox's games, the combats drive me insane because of how shitty they are.
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>>173232349
ck2 has the best combat out of paradox games. you have the most control over what happens
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>>173231038
With that low happiness aren't you afraid of a category 5 chimpout?
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>>173232237
It's got a trojan in it, fucking AVOID
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Is this new?
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>>173232430
>put general for each front
>send the army to attack

Uuh
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>>173232459
not the codex one
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>>173232286
calm down kiddo

>>173232237
of course it's legit, it's a steam game, you can literally just copy and paste the same crack for all steam games as long as you have the files, that's why they shit out steam games in 10 seconds flat every time
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>>173232503
You know culture determines tactics and so do actual units right
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>>173232468
No I've seen it before, bud!
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>>173232468
From 1.3. You have 50-60 years before a spectral wraiths are spawned from it.
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>>173232459
Ive been pirating pretty much my entire life and got hundreds of viruses. They don´t even seem to do anything unless it´s some adware which is annoying as fuck. I even turned off my antivirus (which I ironically paid for) because it´s constant notifications were ticking me off

Feel free to buy the game if you are a pussy though
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>>173232430
Yeah, but if they made something like that for CK2, then I could expect something like that for EU4 and finally for Stellaris, finally making them good.
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>>173232503
general culture and unit compositions and general skill and traits matter a lot.
put a wrathful scot as a general and you will get lots of highland charges for mondo damage with light infantry
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>>173232286
Something that will help your empire on a bigger scale.
Extended life time, faster growth, etc.
Traits that increase productivity are a waste because they only work for one resource and they can all be engineered later on based on your needs.
Even more so in Utopia where you get more trait points.
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>>173232453
I honestly am not super familiar with the more intricate mechanics of Stellaris, despite really enjoying the game.
I'm going to build the slave nanochip thing soon, hoping that will quell any possible issue.
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Ok I will firstly upload in-game DLCs only.
It should be finished in ~20 min.

Then will see if will first upload update or full game.
Update is ~1 GB with all DLCs. :shock:
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>>173232608
So I can ask you : if my game suddenly slows down to 1 FPS, is that a virus or something else?
I experience that with many games like Borderlands, Dark Souls 3 and Saint Rows 4, but no others, and I don't know if it's Firefox who just fucks up the Ram or something sinister.
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>>173232608
Yeah, the worst I ever got was a bitcoin miner that ramped my GPU usage up to 100% whenever I left my computer. When I figured it and got rid out there was even a notepad on my desktop saying 'thanks for the bitcoins'
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>>173232459
Some anti-virus programs detect false positives when they see a cracked .dll-file. Breddy much every pirated game is a trojan if that were true, buddy.
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>>173232739
most likely overheating
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>>173232739
probably old hardware that's getting a bit too dusty and a bit too hot
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New theme sounds like it is straight from Star Wars
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>>173232823
>>173232840
Mmm, okay. I'll open my computer and clean it a bit then.
To be honest, it may be because I covered the air holes on top with a paper. I know it's stupid and that you'll probably laugh at me, but I was worried about dust going in from the top.
There are still small holes behind and under the unit, so I thought that would be enough, but maybe it's not enough.
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>>173232739
Sounds like typical scenario. Your PC is shit and you are trying to convince yourself that it´s the viruses doing it. There isn´t a virus that reduces your fps. You remind me of my family ten years ago when we shared computer
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>>173233028
If my PC was shit, the FPS drop would be permanent, not temporary.
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>>173233152
>If my PC was shit, the FPS drop would be permanent, not temporary.
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post speccy famalam
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>>173233021
Really may be dust.
I have an old shitty laptop and it overheats like crazy now. I'm a bit scared to disasemble it to clean it, because I can't afford to get a new better one right now in case I fuck something up. So I just use external cooler, seems to be working fine.
Not even sure how Stellaris is going to perform now lel.
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>>173233196
... no? I mean, if my PC wouldn't be able to follow, the game would always be slow, right? Instead of just slowing down randomly for a few minutes?

Fuck it, I'll ask an expert. If my PC isn't powerful enough, I'll just add stuff. And if it's dusty, I'll clean it. And then I'll install L.A.Noire once and for all, that game has been on my backlog for years.
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I have pirated 1.1 version, is it possible to install utopia on it?
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>>173233365
Well, I suppose it's dust, because it's recent. I never had any problem before.
Now, even with Clip Studio Paint, I sometimes get slowed down when drawing dicks.
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>>173233423
Installing DLC for stellaris is as easy as copy pasting files into a folder. It's definetly not going to work with 1.1 though.
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>Bought Utopia
>Installed and ready to go
>Pull the game up and make my empire
>SO EXCITED SO EXCITED

>The Utopia tracks aren't in the Jukebox

WHY
H
Y
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>>173233423
Just download the whole thing from mega and call it a day.
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>>173233382
Yeah man these FPS drops next gen consoles have are not caused by shit hardware
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>>173233596
Not working with 1.5, I guess we need some kind of activator like in CK2
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>Copy over Utopia
>Now all my DLC is gone
Well played, Paradox, well played.
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>>173233729

I didn't even copy over Utopia, I bought it.

And then Leviathans and Plantoids were gone.

PARADOX!
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>>173233759
>even legitfags get fucked
NICE JOB
I
C
E

J
O
B
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>>173233658
>21Gb
Oh well,I guess i'll wait until moded game will appear on torrents
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>>173233941

Anon, Paradox games are infamous for the amount of DLC they get, that 21 GB is only going to get bigger.
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>tfw forwarding the phone and heading home even though im at work to play stellaris and get paid for it
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>>173233941
How is it 21gb? It's like 5gb on disk.
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>>173233423
No.
The 1.5 version reworks ethos & government completely. And you have Hive-Mind -ethos in Utopia.
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>>173233613

Am I the only one with this problem? I need to know if I need to reinstall anything!

>>173234112

From one wageslave to another, did you also buy Utopia but get Plantoids and Leviathan from the trove? I'm fine with paying for a quality product like Utopia, but spending $25 for a funny picture and some text feels... Wrong.
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>>173233729
>>173233759
>Copy EVERYTHING over my steam version
>This Frankenstein's Monster of a method gives me Utopia
>Now all my mods are gone
Well that'll do.
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>>173233941
>Gb
you mean Tb?
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>>173234179
I bought Plantoids and Leviathan back when it was on sale. I'd say Leviathan is worth it while Plantoids isn't.
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>mfw my creepy Space Elves I'm doing a Building Tall playthrough of spawned in The Shadow Nebula

IT'S HAPPENING, BROTHERS.
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>>173234179
>>173233613
>Am I the only one with this problem? I need to know if I need to reinstall anything!
No. I have a legit copy of Stellaris with torrented DLC and they still disappeared after I updated.
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>>173234354
post screenshots nigga
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>>173234153
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What in your opinion from the default races in the custom empire selection looks the most like the name "Grognar?" The more disgusting the better.
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>>173234432
what would be the solution to that? re-install the dlc after installing utopia?
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>>173234179
I pirated plantoids but bought leviathans because I was too impatient for a torrent.
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>>173234354
At least I'm not the only one mad enough to try a tall playthrough.
Is it even good now?
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>>173232468
>using default prefix

You disgust me.
>>
holy balls hiveminds are so overpowered
>colonize any planet type without any negative effects
>ppl are never unhappy
>never revolt
>never lose ethnics
how is this not cheating?
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>>173234354
>>173234805

So you would research faster by going tall right? Is it a significant boost?
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>Orange/white dazzle camoflage on reptilian ships is now dependant on your flag colour
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>>173235041
oh and did I mention they dont even have pirate spawn to force you to use minerals of dealing with them and can eat even more in that time?
>>
Time to make a spiritualist empire, what am I in for bros?
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>>173235230
probably a spiritualist empire run.
>>
>>173235041

They're hiveminds, anon.

Hiveminds.

Remember how in sci-fi the Hivemind is always this vast, numberless horde?
>>
So how is Utopia?
Don't tell me the cybernetic transcendeance sucks
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>>173235085
>The Ship's hull color is not dependent on your Empire's Secondary color.
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>>173235323

It's not too noticeable in the early game, but the longer you play the more things become apparent. It really does feel like progression.
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>>173235320
there is literally no reason to play anything else 0 they need to at least remate traits for them, they are far too strong.
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>>173235085
this actually pissed me off, just give me a fleet painter.
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>tfw have to use creamAPI to pirate DLCs into legit stellaris now
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>>173234440

>The freebie planet next door is a 24 tile with exceptional minerals

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
>>173235538
Whhhheeew, you lucky fuck.
>>
can you use ship mods and still get achievements, or do you need to use the shit vanilla ships?
>>
So, do civics change if I go, let's say, from spiritual to materialistic?
Or are they set in stone?
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>>173235450
Give them malus.
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>>173225563
>space_furry.jpg
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>>173235450
Well everyone will hate you so you're always fighting wars on all sides of your empire.
>>
>>173235897
Sounds like nothing changes
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>>173235323
If all it does is turn your specie into robots then it does, synthetics actually suck compared to genetic engineered species.
And now you even get more traits with the genetic endgame, I'm going to guess genetic evolution is going to be OP as fuck.
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Anyone tried it yet?
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>>173236098
It's legit
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>>173236098
Stop wasting your time with public torrents just get it from MG on igg-games.
>>
Holy shit, free Gaia planet (Prophet Retreat) is right next to my borders
>>173236098
It's working
>>
>>173236098
does it include just utopia or the whole game?
>>
So I got the dlc from shady russian forum but where is the patch itself? Gotta wait some more?
>>
Since refugees are a thing, how dumb of an idea would it be to make my race rapid breeders and use purges as a mean of sending them to other empires?
>>
Possible to pirate just Utopia if you got the game on Steam?
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>>173236159
>igg-games
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>>173236263

If it's the same as other Paradox games, yes.
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>>173236236
>>173236098
It's legit and yes it includes all the DLC. Good luck on your journey to the stars, anons.
>>
>>173236421

So how or where?
>>
Do I need to have spiritualism for going to psyonic/Shroud route? If not does it help in some way?
>>
>>173236526

You need to put the pirated dlc in the dlc folder.
>>
>>173236537
If it's like 1.4 you get bonus chances if you're spiritualist, it's rare as any other ethic, it's impossible unless you have a psion researcher as a technocracy.
>>
>>173236464
More like journey to the end game ascension paths which will take couple days and then abandoning this POS game again till they shit out another 20$ dlc in a year, rinse and repeat, amirite?
>>
>Ironman mode autosaves every month
>can't change it

Fuck off, Paradox.
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>>173236653
Pretty much, such is the path with Paradox games.
>>
>>173236172
>prophet retreat
Enjoy getting your anus torn by the fallen ayyyyyyylmaos
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Stopped playing Stellaris a few weeks after release.

Is the game at least more fun to play, or is the mid-late game still a micro management clusterfuck?
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>>173236464
>includes all the dlc
and where can I get just utopia, if I already have the rest?
>>
>>173236728
Oh, shit yeah
>>
Can you purge alien pop in sectors, or you still can't manage anything on planets in sectors?
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>>173236796
>is the game more fun to play
yes
>is the mid to late game still a clusterfuck
also yes
>>
>>173236810
I think you can download that, go to the dlc folder and copy over dlc014_utopia
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>>173236728
That's not true nigga, stellaris is by far their most barebones one, every other single paradox gsg offers much more ways to play it and enjoy it across multiple games, even fucking eu4 which is still meh in itself.
I still kinda like stellaris theme and some ideas and I think they can actually do something worthwhile with it given time but as of now there is zero things to do in the game but navyblob. This utopia slight rp flavor is nice but it's not gonna turn shit gameplay into decent gameplay.
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>>173237037
until it gets an economy, it's going to be the worst game they've ever made or published
>>
>>173236936
that'd still require me to get the whole torrent though...could wait for skidrow, he has the updates separate.
>>
Those tiny UI mods just got updated. God fucking bless.
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We are the good guys in this journey. Let us set forth.
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>>173237169
Dude, it's only 2,8 gb. Just download the whole thing
>>
>>173237206
Nice african empire
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>>173235041
>Factions are the primary source in influence with Utopia, so beyond simply not having access to an entire mechanic, you are forced to go down planetary administration path early.
>No happiness means that you don't suffer from unhappy pops. True. but it also means you dont benefit from happy pops meaning some of your production is going to be curbed.
>Flat out -30 from all civs because you are a hivemind, This does not go away and makes starting up a bit hard if there is no fanatical purifiers around for the AI to pick on instead of you.
>None of the event text is edited to make sense for a hive mind
>Completely locked out of psinic and tech asecnion paths

Also you can't colonize ANY planet. Only greens and yellows same as any other race.
>>
I asked /v/, but I want your opinion too.
Space Elf, gene-modding science oligarchy,
Ilithid psionic conclave
or Despotic Cyborg-Lizard Empire?
>>
>>173237206
>Africans decadent.
>>
WHY THERE ARE SO MANY MINING DRONES
>>
So what's the deal with pirating utopia?

Does this shit need some kind of crack to work with steam? Or is it just a matter of dragging and dropping the dlc into the dlc folder like leviathan was?

Also reading reports that doing so will delete previous pirated dlc from your game? Is there a way around it?
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>>173237478
I think it depends on whether your main game is legit or not, on whether your previous dlc are legit or not, there are many different combinations.
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>Decide to give a science heavy race a try
>Turn off clustered starts
>Just me a some fanatical purifier mushrooms
>Been sucking his dick since I met him, giving him research and shit to try and avoid war
>He's an AI so he probably has some bullshit impossible fleet size I can't compete with
>I picked weak as my trait because scientists.

I put everyone on hyper lanes and there is a single sector the enemy will have to jump through to make it to me.

Are mines any good? Was thinking of just loading the whole sector with mines and putting my full fleet in there.
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>Utopia is released one hour before I have to go to work
Such a fucking tease.
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Does /civ4xg/ have the other DLC besides Utopia? The update deleted all of them for me.
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>>173237609
They're good as a distraction seeing as fleets can't ever disengage a fight
>>
Ugh, this fanatical pacifist ethic is tearing me apart.
I want to have +4 core planets for my tall empire but only defensive wars is just too much. How would I be even able to complete my core homeland with nice looking borders if some fuckers spawns right next to me and I would be unable to attack them?
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>>173237726
Have as in legally own, or have as in play the game using them? I do the latter as a matter of course, but there's no fucking way I'm gonna pay ten bucks for plants.
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>>173237726
what about the dlc link up at the top?
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>>173237726
The DLC unlocker alters certain files. If the update alters those files, it doesn't respect the unlocker's edits. You've got to wait until someone updates the unlocker, which usually happens pretty quick.
If there's any DLC you really can't play without, buy that shit like a good little goy.

>>173237987
Hasn't been updated for the new version, so anything that the update broke will still be broken.
>>
>>173237848

You can liberate as Pacifist. So you liberate and instantly make the new country a vassal.
>>
So how is cybernetic ascension?
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>>173238194
>make a vassal
>have to wait ages to annex
>then have to purge everything
Ugh
>>
>>173237848
>talking about a CB

>>173238194
>talking about wargoals

????

How does Pacifist even work then?
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>>173238194
So technicaly if I just want that one planet I can still get it right?
I'm not planning to expand much anyway, but I don't want to be eternally cucked to be unable to have nice borders either.
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>>173238480

You liberate the planet you want, new country will have no fleet or anything so you can vassalize them almost every time. Then you annex them eventually.
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>>173237848
>I want to have +4 core planets for my tall empire but only defensive wars is just too much. How would I be even able to complete my core homeland with nice looking borders if some fuckers spawns right next to me and I would be unable to attack them?
Easy, liberation wars.

Fight a liberation war and take away 1-3 systems from your neighbours at a time and immediately make them your vassal afterwards and then you can start integrating them.
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>>173237739
Alright then, lets see how this works
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>xenophobe, pacifist, spiritualist
This is what I want, but is there really any point to the spiritualist? Seems like the bonii to core systems and border extrusion are really good compared.
>>
>>173237575
Well then I'm my case that means the main game is legit, but the dlc is not.

So does that mean I'm screwed?
>>
So I read through the thread, basically pirated DLC needs creamAPI now and Utopia isn't uploaded yet
Is my reading comprehension good?
>>
>>173238534
>>173238667
Can I still purge them as a fanatical pacifist though?
I don't want some stinking aliens in my qt elf paradise.
>>
>>173238870
If your other ethos is xenophobe, you can.
>>
>egalitarian xenophobe

you what

they should have stuck with individualist
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>>173238765
I think, not sure though.

In my case, I don't have anything legit, all dlcs non-legit too, till 1.4.

What am I supposed to do, anons? Get the full 2.8gb from bay, find the dlc folder and copy utopia in mine? Never worked with this version, does it need an unblocker? So far I only went with skidrow and stuff just ran itself smoothly.
>>
>>173238870

After you annex them yeah. It'll take a while though.
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>>173238920
Authoritarian should be able to do it too, I think.
>>
REEEEEEEEEEE SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO GET ALL MY DLC WORKING AGAIN AND GIVE ME UTOPIA, I WANT TO OPPRESS SOME XENOS
>>
>>173239056
okay delete system 32
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>>173239056
have you tried purchasing the DLC legally? :^)
>>
Is Xenophobe mandatory to enslave people now? I still want to use pops at generals and scientists and shit.
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Whats the most fun way to play the game?

Militarist/Authoritarian?
>>
>>173238982
Even withouht xenophobic or authoritarian?
>>
How can your species be xenophobe or xenophile from the beginning? You do not even know if aliens exist.
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>>173239218
If you want to expand in Stellaris you..

>Either enslave all the pops with xenophobe or collectivist
>Purge all the pops with xenophobe
>Or liberate then consume all the empires.

There are no other options
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>>173239339
Xeno hating spiritual militarist.
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>>173238675
>scien heavy
>11 13 7
>despite being 24 years in

Im at 13 / 10 / 10 in the year 16 and dont give a rats ass about science, what the fuck are you doing?
>>
Did all you fags that are playing actually buy the DLC?
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>Have a legit copy of Stellaris
>Want to install Codex's Utopia into it.

But the installer is redirecting me to a completely different folder than Steam's.
Do... do I install it on top of the Steam folder, or do I install it somewhere else and copy-paste the appropriate files into Steam afterwards?
>>
>>173239370

Well no.
>>
>>173239519
Put it somewhere else and copy the crack + DLC.
>>
>>173239585
The updated crack should also restore the previous DLCs, right?
>>
>>173239539
Well fuck is there any other way to get rid of the filthy xenos if you are pacifist/spiritualist?
>>
>>173239403
Expanding is just a side thing, I want to make an empire of mediocre slavers who use smart or stronger races to do certain things for them.
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>>173239682
Ye.
>>
>paradox made utopia complicated as fuck to pirate

If anything this just makes me want to pirate more just to spite them.
>>
>>173239712
so you want to make space jews?
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>>173239723
Coolio.
Thanks senpai.
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>>173239727
If this is what complicated feels like to you you might want to use computers more often.
>>
>>173239727
>complicated
???
>>
Ok is it just me, or pirated version, or in the select empire the egalitarian symbol looks blurry as fuck?
Also some faces look too a little.
>>
>>173239737
No, I'm going full magical realm. I don't want to go into details because I want helpful replies.

What's a good name for a ravenous slaver empire? The default generated ones kind of suck.
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It's time.
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Alright I'm confused anons. Is it not possible to just download a pirated Utopia and throw it into my legit Stellaris? That's all I had to do for every other DLC so far, did they change the methods or am I just being retarded?

And if you do just need the file now can someone point me to whichever non-torrent link here has it?
>>
>>173239834
>>173239857
Yes, I am a scrub when it comes to this shit

Dealing with the previous dlc's was simpler, literally just drag and drop into the dlc folder.

Since utopia requires cracks and shit, and the fact those swede cucks will delete you previous dlc if you screw it up, makes it a bit more complicated for me.
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>>173240803
>delete
No, it just doesn't detect the existence of the DLC. Needing a crack is normal.

>>173240769
Use CreamAPI
Swear to god
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>no clustered starts mod hasn't been updated yet
I forgot how much I fucking hated having 3 AIs start right next to me
>>
Thanks god Rezmar and his ruskie hackers are a thing.
>>
>>173240894
>Use CreamAPI
I don't know what that is but it looks like cs.rin.ru is offering it. Where do I get Utopia files though? I can't do p2p connections on this internet so torrenting is out, and I don't need the whole game or any other DLCs so those full game downloads are out.
>>
Here it is in-game DLCs ONLY
>>http://www90.zippyshare.com/v/gDMkjgdk/file.html

For people who just need to crack it...
Here it is your drug.
>>http://www19.zippyshare.com/v/yjKoILir/file.html

Like always choose your poison.
>>
Havent pirated Stellaris DLC before. I put the dlc folders in my steam dlc folder, but it isnt in the launcher. what do?
>>
>>173241123
virus
>>
Holy shit, reading the devnotes/patches i realize i might be xenophobe

Because fuck refuges shitting up my newly colonized planets, fuck undesirables colonizing my planets, and fuck that nigga who think that not having caviar every night is the current no.1 concern during a war for the survival of our species.
>>
>>173241083
See >>173241123

>>173241152
RezMar is trusted you dumb fuck, he's the one who cracks everything for /gsg/.
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>>173241123
thanks based ruskie
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>>173241004
Just rush them anon, it can't go wrong. You know what to do. Join the Hive-mind.
>>
>>173241123
wtf got a virus os locked up DON'T open
>>
>>173241123

Thanks for the dolphin porn.
>>
>>173241123

This works with a legitimate copy on Steam yeah?
>>
>>173241123
Thank you based senpai
>>
Any way to activate the DLC on Mac? I have a legit version of the game.
>>
>>173241004
Doesn't the game already come with an option between Clustered and Random start? What exactly are you looking for?
>>
>>173241123

Why would I need CreamAPI?
I used the codex crack and all the DLC is there.
>>
>>173241583
Maybe look at the readme you dumb fuck
>>
>>173241332
Yes, that's what CreamAPI is for.

>>173241583
Cream works on legit copies, which codex sometimes has problems with.
>>
>>173241679

I have the legit game, it doesn't make a difference.
>>
>>173241123
Lol 4chan... strange place.

To all of thanks.

To all others, please read the
>_HOW TO CRACK

>>173241332
It will work only if you use CreamAPI crack.
This is the same for all PDX games and 99% other games too.

>>173241332
I am sorry but I am note aware that there is universal emu for mac or linux.

>>173241583
CreamAPI is for legal users to have DLCs activated (that they don't own) and play via Steam.
>>
>>173241518

I set it to random, still had AI up my ass. 15 AI empires/800 stars.
>>
>>173241583
I'm retarded, how do you use CreamAPI? Do you just stick it in the Stellaris folder with everything else?

I've got a legit Stellaris copy and all of rezmar's DLC, but unlike the other cracks CreamAPI is just a bunch of .dlls
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>>173241505
It should be activated on its own. Make sure it's downloaded.
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>>173241142
You need crack
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>>173241739
EU4 MoH when?
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>>173241739
thanks for the work senpai
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>When the AI goes full fucking retard
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>>173241123
Cool, but where the 1.3 -> 1.4 update at?

Last time I played was when Leviathans was fresh out.
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>>173242064
Just download the whole game again, its only 3.69 GBs.

Saves and mods are untouched.
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>>173242125
>mods are untouched.

Even Ethics Rebalance mod ?
I thought that it was made obsolete with this expansion..
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>>173241790
Yes.
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So how Utopia is so far?
Worth to get it or Stellaris still suck?
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So I guess flags/emblems/portraits work with the update ?
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r9

I picked basically everything by RNG - traits, civics, everything - and then tried to hammer it into something cohesive.
Citizen Service makes it fairly easy though - they basically become Starship Troopers, but with sewer crocodiles.


Klendathu by 2250! MOVE OUT
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>>173242514
If you didn't like Stellaris before Utopia, you won't like it after Utopia
>>
>>173242315
Not obsolete, broken. He'll be making a complete overhaul, as far as I know.
Most mods will break the game right now, btw.
>>
Ups, forgot that I didn't post update here:
Well you can always find...

or

UPDATE ONLY
Stellaris.Update.v1.4.1.to.v1.5.0-RezMar - checksum (d050)
>>http://www15.zippyshare.com/v/Yd0XTaNZ/file.html
>>http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/Rg3Gv92D/file.html
>>http://www69.zippyshare.com/v/PwSOB55r/file.html
>>http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/gesgrg5e/file.html
>>http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/wyJ6opxg/file.html

Btw update is big... ~1GB

This update requires game to be v1.4.1 checksum (1759).
487 files, put 1568 new files and update 730 files.
Upload of update is 995.84 MB
>>
>CODEX release has this bitching "Smack my Bitch Up" remix playing in the installer

Fugg, i always muted those things, guess i was wrong about that.
>>
>>173242524
As far as i noticed, they do.
They give an annoying "race potrait undefined" if you are editing a old race, but selection a different potrait and then back fixes it.
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>>173242575
>min-maxing
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Any autists figured out the OP min-max empire traits/goverment builds yet?
>>
>>173243090
What's OP matter? Just do what ya want.
>>
Have you got insane amounts of mining drone too? There are like 8 of them near me
>>
Where's the small notepad fix to enable plantoids again?
>>
>>173242928
I see, cheers. I cleaned my mod folder and saves because autism and a lot of old mods that I never got around cleaning up, thought a fresh start will be good.
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>>173243090

Erugh- fleeting is a real buzz kill. There so many better neg traits to go for
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Is the strategy for having only light ships with evasion module still as OP as it was?
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>>173243090
Probably Hive Mind and biological ascension.
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Is there no longer an option to partially purge a population to reduce their numbers? I can only find the option to kill all of them at once.
>>
My history with Stellaris has been:

>game released
>play 20-30 hours
>never touch it again

>first major DLC release
>play 20-30 hours
>never touch it again

Does this expansion do anything to make you thing it'll end this cycle? Or should I just give it a pass?
>>
Which was the best Civ game before Civ 4? I'm playing on a really weak PC (at work) and I would love to play one of the Civ games in my spare time
>>
>>173243494

Only one way to find out. [spoiler/]By playing it yourself[/spoiler]
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This fuckin thing wants me to enter a license key ??

I've bought the game. Where do I find the key?
>>
>>173243596
I'll wait for a sale if I decide to buy it. I just want first impressions before everybody adjusts to the new normal.
>>
>>173243503
Civilization V
>>
>>173243610
>that star in the skull eye socket of the Gatod Consolidated Suns
>>
So how does stockpiling exactly work?
>>
>>173244004
u stockpile stuff
>>
>>173230079
ok I see how it is now, the EE age upgrades are twice as expensive as the AOE ones, maybe even a bit too expensive
>>
>Hivemind just lets you ignore like half of the mechanics in the game

Wow this is boring
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>>173243868
That game is way too modern for this shitty PC to run it.
>>
>>173239496
I gor it from piratebay.
>>
>>173239387
social instincts? Like humans tend to divide the world in "us" vs "them", so would be xenophobic
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I have no idea if it's one of the 1.4 mods giving me this thing when I shouldn't have, but perhaps this is one of the perks of playing a Hive Mind? (I started with this shield)
>>
>You can sell food now
Nice
>>
>>173244908

Defiantly a mod
>>
>>173244792
Nah, that applies to our own species. When it comes to non humans we tend to treat them as slaves (dogs, horses, falcons etc.), livestock (cattle, pigs, chickens etc.) and autonomous pest control units (cats)
>>
>>173244908
I started as a hive mind and didn't have it but it may be in the tech pool as the tool tip says Hiveminds control their people through psionics.
>>
>>173239387
>How can your species be xenophobe or xenophile from the beginning? You do not even know if aliens exist.
They hate the idea of aliens. Just because we are not sure of their existance doesn't mean that many people don't already hold opinions about extraterrestrial life.
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>Stellaris DLC

Hit or Shit?
>>
>have an option for clustered starts
>disable it
>it still clusters shit around me

Whats the fucking point then?
>>
what do i do with creamAPI?

the read me doesn't specify
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>Evangelizing zealot empire is next door to evangelizing zealot empire
>Figure they will fight it out and everything will be fine
>They are now in a defensive pact togther,bullying everyone else
>Fucking shit ass holy lands I cant expand into in the other direction

Send help
>>
>>173245332
It's good. But you know stellaris won't be great for another year of expansions or so.
>>
Funny. You can pick Police State along with Democracy.
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>Start construction on a Ringworld for my fancy schmancy new capital
>Game crashes while on the third and final stage
>>
>>173245795
>http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-Muslim

If you can’t beat them, join them. You can now change ethics, if I am not mistaken.
>>
>>173230356
>Russia
>not authoritarian
>not using the new caste slavery which is literally serfdom
>>
>>173245979
Democracy is non negotiable.
>>
>>173245979
Just because you can vote doesn't mean you have civil liberties
>>
>>173245182
It also explicitly says AI and Psionics cannot be researched as a hive mind.
>>
>>173245979

I don't see the issue here.
>>
What, megacorp and no slavery?
>>
>>173246419
Absolutely false, you can't take ai and psionic asecneion paths as hive mind but you still get some degrees of the vanilla researches. For example, my hive has powered exo skeletons
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>>173230356
>repugnant
I'll cut you suka
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>>173243461
Purging and enslaving individual pops was too OP to maintain order so they removed it, now it's all or nothing.
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How should we update these ones?
>>
Where's my dlc? I have the folders with the names but wall the .zip's are empty.
>>
>>173230452
some of the new features won't work with them
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>Any free Individuals on planets owned by the Mind are attacked and killed on sight as any immune immune system would deal with a foreign agent.
WHY
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

I KNOW THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF INCOMPATIBLE ETHICS

What if I want to roleplay a xenophillic Hivemind, of a hivemind that assimilates and encompasses multiple species, or one that may see some "foreign agents" as beneficial to itself, like the human immune system doesn't attack the intestinal flora because it's essential for our bodies to function.
>>
>>173241796
Everything except Utopia seems to work right off the bat (and has in the past). But even with it in the DLC folder it doesn't show up.
>>
>>173246951
Then you do what the game developers intended you to do. You gene mod the other races into being hive minded.
>>
>>173243503
Alpha Centauri by far. If it has to be a Sid Meier's Civ game, I'd probably say 2. 3 is fine and has much better graphics, but the gameplay is weaker imo
>>
>Custom ruler title goes back to default on succession
It's pretty minor but really fucking annoying.
>>
>>173246951
It’s not somehting hive mind can really control. Just like you can’t control your immune system.
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Democracy or oligarchy?
>>
I kind of wish Warrior Culture wasn't so lackluster

i wanna play as badass warrior shamans but warrrior culture kind of sucks
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>mfw

God i hope it works ....
>>
>>173247086
Alright, thanks. I'll check it out
>>
What do I pick for space North Korea?
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>>173247328
Democracy is always better simply because of the influence gains
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>>173247051
I guess. It's still not what I had in mind. I want a Hivemind coexisting with individuals and Individual leaders on the same planet as itself.
BTW does someone know what happens if you're a hivemind and you capture an alien planet entirely populated by non-hiveminds? What if they're a species from an entirely different hivemind?

>>173247194
Except the Civics Subsumed Will and One Mind.
>>
>>173247328
oligarchy makes more sense for a technocratic state, imo
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WHAT
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>>173247668
you need the crack
>>
>want to go Spiritual Xenophobe Militarist Imperium of Man playthrough
>can't take Imperial Cult civic because no authoritarian

XD
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>>173247632
non-hivemind pops get automatically processed into food and pops from another hivemind get integrated into your own.
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>>173247576
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
A Representative Democracy of course.
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>>173247726
where can I get me some of that crack
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>>173247401
Oh jeez, do tell if it works.
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>>173247936
see
>>173241123
my dude
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>>173247740
>non-hivemind pops get automatically processed into food
Not even when they are on a planet of their own? Fuck.

>pops from another hivemind get integrated into your own.
Ugh. It's the same as the Spiritualist thing where everyone in space worships the same gods somehow.

Fucking paper-thin-depth space game.
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>>173245979
what's funny about that
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>scale UI to x1,2
>the interactable parts of the tradition window are unaffected so i cant click on things properly
>because fuck players with bad eyesight or having a big monitor in acomfortable distance away

How can you fuck up THAT bad?
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>>173230356
Give them fleeting (alcoholism) and natural engineers (first man in space) instead
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>>173247738
Then take the other one.
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>>173247989
Nah it crashed ...

Which is fucking terrible because i cant play without all those mods anymore..

Edicts removing mana bullshit and sector cap can be ported easily but rest .. FUUUCK.

>mfw
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>>173248052
Police State is usually associated with dictatorship.

And HOLY FUCK Google is worse than Hitler with that captcha.
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Anyone have download/torrent for the DLC and update yet? I'm dying here
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>>173248315
Read the thread you fucking nigglet, if you bothered to search it one god damn second you'd know.
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>>173248315
nigga 12 people have posted it already
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>>173248048
There’s alpha centauri porn out there?

Source, good man!
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>>173248315
ctrl-f rezmar, he got you
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>>173248048
Well there are a lot of things in this game, obviously they can't flesh out everything.
Although space holywars would be fun to see.
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>>173248258

Democracy and dictatorship are just forms of government, neither are inherently good or bad.
Although in the west you're told (brainwashed) from birth that democracy is synonymous with freedom and liberty and they can't exist without it, which is untrue.
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>The only way to build trust with a new species is to just give them free fucking research

Was it that hard to just add in trade routes to the game? Why even remove ebmassies if this was your answer
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>>173248525
*tips fedora*
So edgy...
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>>173248154
Get some glasses you subhuman.
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>>173248556
Na there are some ways, one of them is that you can gift them resources and then form a non-aggression treaty
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>>173248616
Maybe a little edgy, but it's fuckin' true.

Buzzwords are intellectual cancer.
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>>173248525

When will you be leaving for North Korea ?
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Is this /africa/ general?
How come nobody here can afford 20 bucks baka...
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>>173248710
*tips tinfoil hat*
So edgy...
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>>173248556
I'm pretty sure trade is going to be in some DLC along the way.
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>Hive minds can't be Fanatical Purifiers

Literally what the fuck, way to drop the ball.
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>>173248863
Somalians preparing to conquer the West using advanced warfare and politics simulations.
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>>173248868
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>>173248258
Literally just search "Alpha_Centauri" on Paheal and you can get at least 8 results. There might be somewhere else too.
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>>173248931
Aren't they fanatical purifier already with all the food processing and shit?
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>>173248234
>tfw you gotta wait for another week for the mods to update
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>>173249062
Woops. Wrong link.>>173248436
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wtf neither steam nor GOG have Civ II

Do they not want my money?
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>install 2 mods
>only one shows up in the launcher
>turns out every time the launcher starts it deletes the .mod file of one no matter how many times I replace it

HELP
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>>173249062
Nah, I'll just turn on Legacy Captcha.
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>>173249157
It's annoying but hey, just start a light-hearted civilization to check out new stuff, play windowed, don't get too attracted.
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>Perk that gives you a third of your tech per planet surveyed
>mfw Huge galaxy

How do I hold all of these points?!
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>have advanced start faggots in the game
>a science faction is formed in my empire
>they are pissed there are more scientifically advanced fagots in the galaxy

For fucks sake, thats like the teacher scolding you for not cheating like billy over there on the test.
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>>173249343
>TFW when fighting a 2 v 1 war right now against equivalent fleets and holding my own because my tech is miles ahead of them
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Say hello to Mr Howard Anderson and Federation Armed Forces.
You will be fucked.
Semper Humanis.

Have a nice day.

>>173249157
>start vanilla Utopia
>realize how bare bones that game is without mods

I have no idea how Paradox gets away with this..
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>>173248523
They should've fleshed out the things they could instead of adding more shallow things.
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>>173242679

Do I need all the files to update, or just one? Sorry for being retarded man, but I'm terrible with this shit.
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>>173245979

The People's Democratic United Republics of Earth must protect its idealistic foundations!
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>>173249480
Tell me which mods specifically I need to make it not shit.
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>>173248735

What? When did I say I want to live in NK?
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>>173248509
>>173248383
>>173248370
Thanks, but for some reason rezmar's links aren't loading for me.
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>>173249492
Well they are fleshing out some things, too bad it's not the things you want.
I personally found it boring because I felt there were too little things to do so I'm all for the all the new things.
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Can you conquer build-one-per-empire megastructures?
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>>173249923
Yes. You can have multiple imperial capital buildings too if you conquer those.
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>>173249492

Paradox has already stated their modus operandi for updating Stellaris is focusing on one aspect of intergalactic civilization at a time.

That's why Utopia is entirely about empire management and the development of a racial/cultural "goal."
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>>173249614
I used many mods.
Most important for me were :

PreFTL
Dedicated planets
Civilian trade
Food import/export ( that one is obsolete now i guess since Paradox insited on that retarded food bank shit )
More ground units
Ethics expanded - came with more policies and it was glorious
HALO shipsets
Station Rework - to make stations viable
Ringworld repair

And some minor things like more flags ( because vanilla selection is pathetic ), more species portraits etc.
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>mfw you realize you need to unlock every Ascension perk slot to max out your Bio/Psi/Synth *and* build Megastructures.

Science Nexus gives you +30 to all techs right off the bat, Jesus fucking Christ.
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Okay, so with Utopia here and everyone getting a good feel for how this expands or deepens the game, I'd like to ask the big question.

What do you want to see next? Seems like it could be anything from deeper racial interactions to more options for solar system/species customization to even something like an Army Designer.
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>>173250095
>Civilian trade
ISBS Living Systems is better
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>>173250284
I just want stuff to do in the midgame, maybe diplomacy/war/trade, any of it.
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>>173250164
But consider the costs.

For the price of a single megastructure, you can build dozens of labs or power plants. The only one that seems totally worth it is the array, as it provides unique benefit.
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For some reason after the latest patch when I start a game the camera keeps endlessly panning to the left, and I can't even move the view back to a planet or ship. Anybody else having this bug, and how the hell do I fix it, as it's making the game unplayable?
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>>173249614
Oh i forgot -

Bigger Galaxy
Multiple Simultaneous Crisises

>>173250459
Dont know that one.
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>>173250609
>you can build dozens of labs or power plants

Excuse me buddy, I don't have a zillion colonized planets in my arm of the galactic spiral to put those labs n' plants on.

Every avenue of growth has been blocked, if I can't get Wide I'll get Tall.
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>>173250609
Fuck off, I'm the Emperor, I do what I want.
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>>173250284
>>173250524
This, good god the war point system needs to have more options. Like being able to change objectives as the war goes on not just when you start and a lot of other points that fuck up the point system, like federations. Also being able to trade planets/systems.
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>>173250284
More midgame stuff. Like those rare, rare events that happen when you have a bordering empire. The wooden flutes, the lost book. I want to make decisions. Also a way to get more anomalies once everything's been discovered. Like a "grand survey" edict or something.
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>>173250284
army designer
more detailed ship stuff (maybe a specific flagship that has extra stuff?)
maybe a deathstar? or a planetoid-hurling weapon? things that could 'kill' a solar system?
Maybe Utopia covers this too, but specific 'ascended' leaders that have certain perks that can be utilised besides the infrastructure stage, in combat, for example?
More humanoid aliens, seriously, we need more.

Again, with an expansion of the habitats, the ability to play a fully mobile empire? lots of space-habitats, moving from system to system, draining it and moving on, ala independence day?

Taming space horrors to use in your fleet?
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I did the Rezmar stuff and Utopia seems to have worked just fine with creamAPI but leviathan and the rest of them aren't there. The DLC folders are in the right place. Anybody know what I fucked up?
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A complete overhaul to diplomacy. I should be able to spend resources to make two nations hate each other, spark rebellions, conduct espionage and cause one nation to go to war with another. I want to take the federation fleet system and move it to 'gifting' other nations my fleet. I would still foot the bill but they would have command of the fleet for X amount of months so I can fight proxy wars. I should be able to establish trade lanes with empires to grow trust instead of just having to give them free shit and if i have enough military power I should be able to bully a nation into giving me resources.
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>>173250828
>Taming space horrors to use in your fleet?

You can already do this with the Ether Drake and Derelict Dreadnought.
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>>173250284
Honestly, anything that alblaka guy from the suggestions subforum has come up with.
If paracocks fully implemented at least some of his ideas, the game would actually be pretty fucking good.
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>you have to be a faggy egalitarian to be a corporate dominion
fuck i wanted to roleplay as an evil space corporation reeeee
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>>173250874
what
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>>173250830
just curious, why did you use creamAPI and not codex?
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>>173250992

Dreadnought can be reactivated after destroying it, and one of the options when you put a station over the Dragon's Hoard is hatching an egg.
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>>173250782
This is weird that the Paradoxes games go through the line where in CK II you can have only pre-determined CB wars, in EU4 you can just take the shit no matter what the goal is, in Vic2 you can just add new goals through the war, in HoI4 you outright just go total war and take everything. As I remember at least.
And in stellaris you somehow get back to medieval times, like what the fuck is this?
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>>173251079
I had no idea that happened with the Drake, thanks for that.
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>>173250972

Evil Space Corporations are egalitarian, dude.

They're evil and recruit the most vicious minds this side of the galaxy, but they're totally egalitarian.
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>>173251030
I have a legit copy of the base game for workshop convenience.
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I did the Rezmar stuff and Utopia works but now it just crashes to desktop without an error message.


Ree
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>>173250828
>Again, with an expansion of the habitats, the ability to play a fully mobile empire? lots of space-habitats, moving from system to system, draining it and moving on, ala independence day?

WHERE ARE MY PLANET CRACKERS.

I WANT TO DESTROY PLANETS FOR QUADRUPLE NUMBERS OF MINERALS AND ENERGY.
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>>173251384
NOT THE ISHIMURA
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>Fleet warps in system.
>Instant battle.
>Fleet takes 0 damage for like 20 days due to distance, fleet still past the warp limit for those 20 days, too.
>Emergency warp takes 30 days.
>Warp wind down is only 7 days.
Pls.
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>>173250972
Corporations can't even form without some kind of underlying egalitarian values in society. In an authoritarian state they'd never permit that much wealth, influence, and power to be amassed outside government control. Corporations are always formed by voluntary cooperation between free people in the beginning.
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quick, gimme ethics for space pig men
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>>173251384
>attention
>an enemy empire has built a station around a sun under their influence and they have begun charging their sun-hurling weapon
>the charging takes one year
>stop them or get half your empire wiped when the sun collides with one of yours

Mhmm, yes. Me likey very MUCH.

>>173251314
which crack?
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>>173251580
codex
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>>173250972
Just go for authoritarian oligarchy, who cares what descriptions say.
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>>173251637
you've convinced me to wait for skidrow...
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>>173250782
>Some scum civilization is blocking my only viable way of expansion
>Decide to wager war against them and claim the system that impedes my spread
>Obliterate them completely. Have troops on all their planets, destroy all their research stations,mines and ships
>Can't get them to cede the planet because they are in a federation with some fuck on the other side of the galaxy that never once came around
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>>173251546
Just pick the same ethics you will pick for a space british men
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can I get a quick rundown on utopia please?
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>>173249215
Go to the .mod file and make it read only
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So they ditched this "pick one path" stuff, right? All I see is 7 civ5 trees and 8 perkslots. I need to build megastructures (my map is fucking shit) and also want to be psionic (already spiritualist), I won't get locked out of either as long as I don't waste my perkslots, right?
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>>173251907
It's a pretty okay DLC that's worth about $10, not $20. You're going to probably buy it because it fleshes out a game that has desperately needed depth, no matter how trivial that depth actually is.

Paradox hasn't done this game justice just yet, though I think they are moving in a good direction.
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>none of the namelists fit the kind of species I'm making
>cybrxkhan's mod is full of dumb memes & is bugged
>every other namelist mod is even more memey
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>>173252097
>It's a pretty okay DLC that's worth about $10, not $20.
Paradox DLCs in a nutshell.
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>>173252262
>TFW no american name list. Always end up with eastern yorop names and hispanic shit
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>>173251525
>>173250972
This is an issue that stems from them stupidly having egalitarianism as the opposite of authoritarianism. They're linked but they're not opposite, especially in terms of sci-fi. You could have an authoritarian establishment that uses it's authority to enforce egalitarianism. Diversity quotas and the like. Demographic A is getting too rich so demote some of them to a lower class and raise up some of demographic B. Dystopia sci-fi future where equality of results is enforced by law. To a certain extent true egalitarianism needs an element of authoritarianism to enforce equality when people might want to exclude others due to matters that have nothing to do with competence.

The opposite of authoritarianism would be something to do with liberty or even anarchy.
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>>173252463
Right, the opposite of authoritarianism is libertarianism. The 'wheel' bullshit that Paradox went with is stupid. Opposing ideologies have been forced together in the past, that's how you get things like Communism
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>>173235041
Hiveminds should have a malus to science production to balance it out, maybe. When every member of your species is controlled by a single mind and will, you're not going to have the curiosity and diversity of ideas needed for good scientific progress.
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>>173250972
Go egalitarian then. Just make your species living conditions shitty if that's what you think "evil space corp" means, though it's really not. Authoritarian vs egalitarian is basically government vs corp, not evilhitler vs muhfreedumbs.
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>>173242514
>I don't like Stellaris
>Will I like Stellaris with more Stellaris-content?

Your question is asininely formulated, friend.
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>>173252574
I can't help but feel it has to do with them trying to moralise. Egalitarianism is good right? Authoritarianism is bad right? Therefore egalitarianism is the opposite of authoritarianism.

When your political simulator doesn't really have the building blocks for communism it's time to rework it. I'm surprised that it was changed to this.
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Is it just me, or are colonizable planets much rarer now?
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>>173242514
After couple hours all I'm seeing is that they stole civics from civ, basically all it means is more research options and more rp. Game itself is still barebones, other paradox games are much better. But I got massive hard-on for megastructures so I'll stick with it for at least a game I think.
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>>173252850
The problem is the names, which they tried to fix once already. Stellaris's axis is strictly whether or not people participate in the government.
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>>173252850
That's definitely what they are doing here. Paradox is pandering to leftists slightly these days. Thankfully they aren't total retards
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>>173252987

Megastructures are stupid strong, you'll always remember your first Ringworld.
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>>173252983
They dropped it down a little. Move the slider to 1.25 to have it the old way

I think devs are heading towards a 'less planets but more important planets' thing with their game. And their core limit
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Paradox should add two new ethics to the wheel: Hierarchical and Libertarian, to serve as opposites of Egalitarian and Authoritarian respectively. Also, instead of Caste Systems being dependent on Authoritarian ethics, they should be dependent on Hierarchical ethics.
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>>173253123
>Paradox is pandering to leftists slightly these days.
They are a swedish company after all.
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>>173226885
I like it, though the AI is a fucking bitch. Was a bit sceptic about the dynamic frontline at first, but it works pretty well.

Try tweaking the map size and income rate, low points on a big map and high points on a small one are completely different experiences.
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>>173244278
I assumed this too

Hivemind is pretty much easy mode, all the internal struggles that would otherwise exist are just empty
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>>173253167

Fuck, you tell me this when I've already got a start away from the other empires, with two planet-rich systems next door and a Ruler that has the -25% Constructor trait.
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>>173253212
I doubt current paradox game players know what any of those words mean.
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>>173253212
The more variety to pin-point what you want the better but sincerely, at this point I want them to move on to diplomacy/trade/war.
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>>173252463
>>173252574
Eh, I like it more than the retarded "individualist-collectivist" bullshit. Of course you can't please everybody, but at least it makes more sense now.
Also talking about communism, in it's final form, or in ideal form, it should be an egalitarian society so technically now you have more means to play as space commies than you had before.
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>>173252326
[x] Respectfully disagree.
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>>173253329
What internal struggles? I've been playing this game on and off since release and there is none, just do obvious and easy stuff to keep your pops happy, they added factions but it's same stuff basically. Internal struggles is what you get in ck2 in a large realm when liege dies at a bad time, not this checkbox checking simulator.
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>>173253212
You could argue that Egalitarian would be "everyone is equal" and Hierarchical is "some people have more rights" so I think Egalitarian/Hierarchical would work better.
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>>173253245
True. Like I said though, they aren't retards. They seem to have tried to intentionally work away their bias in a lot of aspects, but it still shines through in some of the finer details, like the authoritarian/egalitarian false dichotomy.
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>>173227514
Pacifist, Xenophile, Libertarian

Charismatic
Communal (+5% happiness trait)
Slow breeders
Weak
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>>173253264
does the AI have infinite req points like in wargame? and just send spam of one type all game?
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>>173253710
>happiness
>with those suicidal rates
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>>173253123
>>173253245
>A game where you can literally genocide everyone
>A tagline stolen from Donald J. Trump
>Literal "Supremacy" tree

>""Pandering to leftists""
You /pol/tards are easy to trigger, are you ?
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>>173253445
But individualist and collectivists are actual opposites anon. Whenever you liked it or not doesn't matter: It made sense. Honestly authoritarian-libertarian and egalitarian-[word for a caste or class based society] would be the answer if you really wanted to go down that road. Or even just get rid of egalitarianism as a philosophy and only have it show up in government forms.

>it should be an egalitarian society
Enforced by authoritarianism, yes.
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>>173227514
Do the opposite of what /pol/ does, slave the white blonde pops and make the blacks the leaders, all in the name of equality of course.
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>After so much struggle.. You've finally achieved... Utopia...

wtf paradox?
>>
There used to be a 'dumb' trait right? Opposite of intelligence? I swear there used to be one and I always made my strong but dumb race of warrior slavers
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You know what I just found out?

To build Tall, you need a lot of resources.

To get a lot of resources, you need to build Wide.

How am I supposed to get all the way to Ringworlds and Habitats and Nexuses if they cost 15k and I'm only producing +100 a month?
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>>173253956
Leaders and pops are randomly generated, so it might be hard
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>>173253445
Communism in it's ideal form is impossible thanks to human nature. The only way a communist society can exist is through the raw power of an authoritarian government. Therefore, for absolute egalitarianism to exist, you must have authoritarian powers to enforce it.
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>>173253876
>[word for a caste or class based society]
Hierarchical.
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>>173254137
Not with mods.
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>>173253876
>individualist/collectivist
>authoritarian/libertarian
pure ideology
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>>173254127
Tech and unity. Become the smarest in the cosmos then sell your research and build habitats
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>>173253858
The Supremacy tree is about war. They took out the Purity tree and replaced it with Diplomacy.
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>>173253858
Not everyone who talks about politics is from /pol/ faggot. You're literally on the general for strategy games and political simulators.

Likewise, the developers stated a while back when Stellaris was first released that they didn't want people to have a good time genociding everyone. They intentionally developed methods to make it more difficult and less appealing, even though it is the most efficient way to win via supremacy.
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>>173254168
Planned economies are probably possible with advanced technology though.
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>>173254127
I guess you have to tighten your belt for a while and then enjoy the payoff, just like it usually goes with being tall. I'm aiming tall too but I'm just starting out. Not like I have much of a choice though, my map generation is shit and I have nothing to lose.
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>>173254168
Setting aside all the "muh human nature" fallacies and real world, it's a fucking sci-fi game with aliens, ancient gods and ai uprisings, even if it could be arguably not realistic it doesn't mean it couldn't be an option in a game where shit much more fictional is possible.
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>>173226885
it came out? Might pirate it or buy it on sale. Seems a bit dumb to limit it to only Normandy though. I'm sure a lot of people would want to play soviets.
Waiting for gates of hell and panzer corps 2 while playing PC for my WW2 fix
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>>173254284
>>173254127
>>173254478

H-hahaha, I can't be the o-only one who throws a thousand or three minerals into the coffers with the console so I can be Tall, r-right?
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>>173254168
It's sci-fi. It might not be human nature but it might very well be Rak-varrok or whatever nature. It's sci-fi, collectivism doesn't have to be inherently authoritarian and people don't need to act like humans.

But communism even in it's ideal form still has the central authority to direct it all and to keep people sharing and is therefore authoritarian by nature.
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>You can make a egalitarian-xenophobic empire
>>
>Habitable planets are rare as fuck, and when you find one it's usually halfway across the galaxy and size 12
>Terraforming resources are somehow scarce
>Habitat Buildings are strong as fuck

Screw you Paradorks, I'm making my own planets now.
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>>173253212
They should've just kept collectivist-individualist and added Egalitarian-Hierarchical.
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what's the most interesting/fun setting?
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ALL PRAISE TO REZMAR

GLORIOUS PIRATE REZMAR
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>>173254904
some aliens are more equal than others
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>>173254889
Would you consider it authoritarian if this central state was rulled by some kind of sci-fi direct democracy?
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>>173254904
We're all equal, and that should be reflected in a classless society or at least one with enough social mobility to allow one to advance via merit. All of us have inherent value that shouldn't be constrained by arbitrary metrics like clan, race, or sex.

All except those filthy fucking xeno scum, that is.
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>>173253876
>Honestly authoritarian-libertarian and egalitarian-hierarchical would be the answer if you really wanted to go down that road.
Now I'm pissed off that this isn't in the game and it's making me not want to play it
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>>173254925
That actually would be a nice idea.
I doubt you can mod it in though, which is sad.
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What wouls be the Ethos of an Empire based on Nietzsche philosophy?
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>>173255012
lane only
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>>173255409
There is some mod completly revamping the Ethos system on the workshop.
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>>173255498
AI has no idea how to use lanes effectively
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>play first games with utopia
>make xenophile militarist ottoman empire
>outlaw slavery among humans
>start to grow
>everything going well
>have 3 large planets which are growing well
>30 years in exploring and still no other species
>find first species on the neighbouring galactic arm
>is a fanatic xenophobe awakened empire
>fuuuuuuck.jpg
>maybe if I leave them alone it will go well
>see size 19 continental world
>'I'm sure I can colonize it with that distance'
>nope the racists don't like it
>tell them to fuck off when they want me to abandon it
>declares ware against me
>see his 60k fleet come
>I surrender
>maybe I can just grow around him
>after a while he declares again wanting to purge me

And this is how I started a new game.
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>>173255457
dark/steel
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>>173255457
Fanatic Individualist/Materialist
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>>173255690
It was a holy world wasn't it?
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What does this mean?
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>>173256467
They're mad your government isn't spiritualist
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>>173256563
But it is. Do they want me to be fanatic spiritualist?
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>>173256824
I guess so
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>>173254904
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>>173256885
I like Roland's avatar.
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I heard that Stellaris DLC can be unlocked by simply editing a few lines, is that true? I downloaded a pirated version of Stellaris with 1.5 but none of the DLC is showing in the menu.
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>>173254534
>fallacies
>implying people will ever work for nothing

hahahahahaaha how to stop the leftist

Either way, we're talking about philosophies and ideologies. If you're going to throw in the wrench of "lmao it isn't actually the real world", then why have the dichotomy at all? Who's to say you can't have some space aliems that are both pacifistic but militaristic creatures? I mean, who cares about what the actual ideologies are or what it takes to enact them, we're dealing with fantasy!!
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>>173254904
>>173255264
I made an egalitarian, xenophobic militarist empire. Human "Civilian Republic" where everyone has to serve in the military to vote.

Unfortunately, my xenophobic policies are pissing off the egalitarian "Democratic Watch" faction in my empire. Specifically the no xenos allowed to migrate into core worlds policy. If I change policies I piss off the Human Purity Front.

So Xenophobic + Egalitarian is a little incompatible.
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>Decide to try 'all hyperlanes' because Anon told me it makes conflicts and expansion more tacticle
>Instantly boxed by an alliance of galactic assholes.

I should have known better than to give up on worm holes
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>>173256992
it's probably put there by a mod as a form of public shaming because he said it once
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>can't rename factions

it's the little things that piss me off
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>>173255286
>tfw we cannot play an authoritarian hierarchical space Roman Empire

KILL
ME
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1-3 psykers
4-6 gene people
7-9 machine people
0 play EU4 MoH
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>>173256467
THE PRIESTHOOD

RISING
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>>173257141
If this game was actually good, you'd be able to seed dissent in their empires covertly and cause them to splinter into smaller, more easily manageable empires.
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>>173257053
Self-interest is called HUMAN nature for a reason. It doesn't apply to non-humans.
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>>173257118
Wiz was asked about this, he said it's basically intentional and adds challenge.
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>>173257435
Oh I definitely understand that. I get where they are coming from. A fungoid race that is a literal hivemind would of course have an easier time handling communism, seeing as the individuals don't have a sense of self to begin with. Wouldn't you call the hivemind
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>>173257351
Skelegates, if you will
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>>173256885
>Egalitarian doesn't necessarily imply total equality for everyone
>>173257118
>my xenophobic policies are pissing off the egalitarian "Democratic Watch" faction in my empire.
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>>173257053
Funny how you people are so spooked that you can't even imagine communism in a non-realistic setting.
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>>173257204
Looking it up, it's what mods put on people who posted something positive about trump back during the election.
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>>173257610
stellaris is a spook
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So do alien pops in your empire start their own xenophobic supremacy movements or are they just always innocent minorities? What if your human species gets replaced by aliens in your empire? Are they still called the human purity faction without any humans?
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>keep trying to modify my race so it can colonize ocean worlds
>keeps telling me I've failed

Could someone explain what I'm doing wrong here?
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>>173256369
Certainly Fanatic Individualist but I'm not sure if Materialist or Militarist.
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>>173258086
open the special projects tab
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Humanoid 1 is the best vanilla namelist
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Been thinking of starting something akin to H.G. Wells 'Time Machine' with syncretic evolution. The question though is whether I should start off as the charismatic Eloi, in which they ruled over the Morlocks, or as the subterranean Morlocks having thrown off the shackles of their oppressors.

Any thoughts?
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>>173258206
Plantoid names actually look really nice for space elves.
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>No way to do an honourable warrior society that functions purely on might-makes-right princles
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>>173258398
Do you have the choice for the symbiotic species?
Interrestingly enough despite the fact the Morlocks are generaly presented as ugly and evil and Eloi as pretty and good, in the books the Eloi are actually stupid while the Morlocks are smart and industrious and in the sequel the Eloi become extincts and the Morlocks become the true successors of Humanity.
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>>173258487
Isn't that the military junta ? I swear I've seen civilizations titled "Honorable Warriors"
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>>173258648
>>173258398
Weren't the Eloi literally cattle for the Morlocks? I guess you need to give them the delicious trait.
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>>173228040
literally the first species I made
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>>173258206
>Keep getting white people named Francisco and shit

All of the humanoid names a shit
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>>173258206
>Pick that
>Think the ship and planet names are based on the species' gods
>Make race of weak, fleeting but highly intelligent catpeople whose goal is to become as if the gods of their pantheon through biological fuckery

what should their ethos be though?

Spiritual for sure but what else?
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>>173231792
>turok
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>>173258648

Just did a rough start and it seems that I'm getting the same species portrait (neo-chimp.) I guess that answers my question about whether I'm gonna be Morlocks or Eloi.
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>>173258398
The syncretic species is random.
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>>173259183
>not neo-dolphin
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>>173231925
>>173232267
>not just waiting with surveying anything outside of immediate grasp until you have that and 200 research per month per topic
if anything it would be better if you only got it if you were the first to survey it and if it were on the first tier
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>>173259219

Oh neat. I guess I'll just keep hoping for a decently attractive species.
I'm really gunning for a troglodyte shadow council.
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>>173258487
>might-makes-right
>honourable

pick one
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>>173259465
Ideas of honor may depend.
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I should probably wait with utopia until I'm sober and it's the weekend
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>>173257053
money is the great de-motivator

https://hbr.org/2013/04/does-money-really-affect-motiv
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>>173258487
Warrior Culture, anon
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>Usually Evangelizing zealots are the first civs to die
>Two of them formed an alliance and started bullying the known universe
>Then somehow ended up with two more civs hopping on board to help them
>I could have stopped this by BTFOing one of the EZ way back at the start
>Going to be a messy 3 v 1 but god damn I have to stop this before it goes too far.

WHY DO YOU PACIFIST HAVE TO REFUSE BEING USEFUL IN WAR
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>>173259465
>Conflict must be direct and honest but whoever has the power to enforce his authority is not only free to but should/must
I fail to see the conflict
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>>173259967
honor implies honesty, integrity, and strong ethics
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>>173260113
One definition of honor does, yes.
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>>173259789
Why would I ever work as hard as I can if I know I can just do the bare minimum required to keep my "free" everything?
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How does food/growth interact? Is there any point to aim for ridiculous surplus if I don't want to wait centuries till colony will be fully populated? How much each food point increase growth speed? Can I make specialised foodworlds or every planet still needs local production?
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>>173260113
Yes. The honesty of an honest fight, the integrity to fight for what you believe in and the strong ethical responsibility that those who are strongest make the decisions that are best for society.

If I could program them to self-destruct due to civil war after a point I absolutely would.
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>>173260113
honor implies you're a garbage scrub who will get left in the dust by tradition and liberty
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>>173260391
because you cannot eat money, and it can't intellectually stimulate you
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Any mods that change the male announcer voice in Stellaris?
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>>173260391
The same reason why anyone who won't just settle for a 2br/1ba house in bumfuck nowhere, compact car, small tv and eating beans and rice every day works as hard as they can. They want more.

They want more than what the govt gives them. They want the high-rise penthouse, the luxury BMW, 10/10 trophy wife, gold cufflinks, the elite Yale frat membership, the yacht club

Why would those people do anything differently if all of a sudden the bare minimum went up a little?
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>>173252097
Hold on the DLC cost about $10 in my country how much does it cost over there?
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>>173259789
>See goyum, these money are just distracting you from the joy of work, why don't we cut your wage so you would enjoy your job more? Oh you only want money to have a decent life and don't want to be a wageslave, oh too bad, we don't need such low performing slaves here.
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where's the torrent lads.
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>>173257018
Can someone please respond? I want to join in the fun too.
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>>173261330
Pay the 20 fucking bucks or get a job you smelly poorfag.
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>>173261284
dauphon on tpb
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>>173260706
That doesn't really answer my question. Under communism, all of my basic needs are met as wealth is perfectly distributed among the population. There are no differences in class, and property rights are abolished. Even if the government tells me to work, what's stopping me from just showing up to work and doing piss all until it's time to go home? I have no incentive to better myself or to actually achieve. I have no incentive to give it my all. Under communism, there is no road to that mansion that I want to have one day. There is no road to a nice car that I'd like to be able to work on in my spare time. There is no road to that gaming computer I want to build in order to play the latest CommuGame made by a bunch of developers who don't care about actually producing anything worthwhile, because they aren't incentivized to do that at all

>>173261068
But under Communism you aren't allowed access to any of those things. You aren't allowed to have private property at all, so your dreams of getting that compact car or that mansion are all gone. Maybe you can still get the wife, but everything else is a product of private property.
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Against missiles, armor or shields?
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>>173260391
That says a lot more about your nature than human nature. There are shitloads of examples of people putting in considerable effort and funds for no financial reward. These people range from hobbyist to philanthropists. People would have a lot more time for self improvement and personal endeavours. They'd get bored if they didn't.

You bring up human greed as a reason why communism wouldn't work fully as a system and I agree but to turn around and act like human greed would be sated by said basic income is inherently incorrect. People will always want more.

The fact that they aren't working dead-eyed office jobs to buy Mr. CEO a new yacht like good little worker bees doesn't mean nothing's happening.
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>>173261604
Point defense
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>>173261562
>so your dreams of getting that compact car or that mansion are all gone. Maybe you can still get the wife, but everything else is a product of private property.

I will become party apparatchik and then the car, mansion, and woman will be mine
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>>173261703
I never suggested any kind of basic income. I'm against such concepts
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>>173257695

What? Is that true?
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>>173261330
read the fucking thread it's been posted dozens of times
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>>173261562
When everyone would be able to have a mansion and a nice car they you would have a mansion and a nice car. And why wouldn't good workers have benefits for their work after all.
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>>173261562
Not American and I fail at world history, what happen in 1917?
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>>173261987
I know: You implied people would just stop working hard if given a universal basic income while also --correctly -- saying that communism doesn't work because of the human nature to always want more, causing it to collapse in on itself in corruption.

These ideas contradict eachother as people's desire for more would drive them to work beyond the basic income allowance. It also implies that nobody has ever put a lot of effort into something that they wouldn't get anything from just because they wanted to do it which is categorically false.
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>>173262165
When everyone has a mansion and nice car, they'll be no better then having a small house and cheap car is now. Luxury is only luxurious when there's someone worse off in your own culture to compare yourself to.

There was a time when air conditioning was a treat for only the richest Americans. Not having it wasn't squalor, it was ordinary.
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>>173262312
You would usually expect this kind of ignorance of the world history from Americans so not being american doesn't play in your favor here.
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>>173262312
dude marxism-leninism lmao
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>>173262312
The creation of Soviet Russia
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Do you no longer build colony ships?
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>>173262523
You do, you just don't research them. The tech is baseline.
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>>173262523
Yes you do
why?
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>>173262383
I was purely talking about Communism, there must have been a misunderstanding. I never even brought up a universal basic income, that's a different beast than communism
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>>173262576
thank god for that.

waiting 30 months to get the tech, or getting an easier one just to roll the dice on how long it would be for it to show back up was stupid.
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>>173261836
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>>173261562
>I have no incentive

yes you do. money is not an ends. read the article and fuck off
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>>173262728
My mistake then. Sorry, I haven't slept in a while.
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>>173257204
>>173257695
What the fuck.
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>>173262501
So you only want it not for use but to just show to everyone how cool and rich you are.
This is one retarded logic I would say.
>Not having it wasn't squalor, it was ordinary.
And yet they improved peoples lives. Just as having decent living conditions instead of a wooden hut and being able to travel fast from one point to another.
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>>173262956
>10bux
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>>173262956
can't handle a little humor, snowflake?
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>>173262789
>e-educate yourself shitlord
Money is what lets people have access to the things they want access to. Money is the representation of labor, pure and simple. Even if you remove money, you would still wind up trading value for value. I know money isn't why people work. Anyone who thinks that is retarded. People work in order to have access to the things they desire. They gain access to those things with money.
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>>173262956
>liberal "humor"
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>>173230887
Did you know that the latest uTorrent is full of malware and bogus shit? Change your client to qbitorrent or something else, thank me later. Do first full system malware scan.
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>>173253794
Nope. It plays by the rules (at least up to medium). It just knows how to use infantry, AT guns, smoke, and combined arms very well. It snipes recon as soon as it can, fill the map with squads, use planes at the right times, and isn't baited too easily. A good sparring partner.
For example, it managed to smoke the flank of my armored push with mortars to infiltrate some AT units, and then sandwitched me with Stugs on the other side.

I dunno if the higher levels are the same thing with more points, which would already be nasty enough, or some king of tactical masterminds with lightning-fast reflexes.
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>>173261562
The house example is stupid, the US has more empty houses than it has hobos.
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>Okay.
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>>173262789
To be fair people who wrote that article deserve a special place in GULAG with all the;
>"ugh maybe prols shouls just love their shitty jobs more instead of worrying about money, why won't they just enjoy being wagecucks instead of wanting to have a decent life"
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>>173263607
(x) Hate dustbins
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>>173263607
Unfortunate that you can't counter-insult. "Ok" is a very weak response.
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>>173263198
but if you didn't need money to get access to your basic needs you wouldn't stop working, you would just focus on working on the things you enjoy working on instead

>>173263417
are you sure? try to give it one plane and shoot it down, see if it comes back
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>Empire has half the planets I do
>Fleet strength is marked as 'equivelent'
>It has twice the fleet strength and ships I do

I wish this game could stop being bullshit for about ten seconds
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>click one of my worlds
>assblasted by sound
these effects are obnoxious
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>Dick bags and cumsluts have declared a non-agression pact
>Fuck heads and shitters are now at war
>Nignog and chingchongs have entered a federation
>Cumguzzlers and shiteaters have enetered into a defensive pact

Is there no way to turn this dumb shit off?
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>>173264930
this has been an issue from day one
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Alright so I made Militaristic Spiritual Xenophobes and the Military faction pops up so I decide to support them because there arent any other factions yet, that +20% happiness looks nice and I have nothing else to spend my 800 influence on. Then I become Fanatical Militarists and my xenophobia is gone.

THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP, STELLARIS!

Should I just Alt F4 and reload before that shit senpaitachi? I want to PURGE!
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How do I install cracked utopia into legit stellaris?
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>>173265495
what the fuck did you think supporting them would do
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>>173254904
>All humans are born equal.
>Humans.
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>>173265582
Not make me fanatical and kill off one of the others without telling me first. It says it will change your shit up but I didnt expect anything to happen because they were already part of it. So what I'm getting is that theres no reason to not actualy have a fanaticl ting in this new updat then because all I wanted was to makem happy.
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So are habitats considered planets? How far into the game they are?
I just want to know if I should expand my tall empire untill I get to the limit of core worlds or if I should leave some space for habitats in the future?
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>Implying molusk from the other side of the galaxy aren't also humans
I want trumpetes to leave.
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Why are so many people falling for the build tall meme? Why contain yourselves?
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>>173266195
Because it's new?
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>>173266195
How exactly are you supposed to build tall now? I end up stalling expansion forever because I want to wait for ideal conditions, like terraforming everything into a Gaia world.
Because I am an autist.
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>mfw I realize I understand most of what the nips in AOE2 are saying

time to lay off the animemes
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>>173266195
I wanted it since vanilla release, since I hated sectors and slaves management so much.
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>download the Utopia codex
>1.5 works fine, but it says I have no DLC (including Utopia)
How do I fix this?
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>>173266574
I got that feeling in civ4
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Where do you see exactly how unattracted to your empire's ethics are your pops? Or are buildings that have ethics attraction as bonus always worth it regardless of distance from capital and stuff?
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>fuck yeah Authorities! TIME TO MOD THE SHIT OUT OF THIS
>you can't

FUCK YOU PARADOX
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>tfw I want to wait for the inevitable patch before pirating Utopia

I must restrain myself
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>>173266748
restart steam
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How do you play this game without a focus on war? The AI always cheats and has a bigger military than you unless you go full ham in early phase and swell up big enough to field a giant ass fleet
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>>173266923
I don't own it on steam. I tried that anyway with no effect.
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>>173266958
Peacefull and xenofucker work to make people like you more instantly unless they just want to purge everything. Even a nation at peace needs an army or wit wont remain a nation for long.
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Is it just me or are half the traditions fucking useless?
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guys i fucked with a sentient black hole and now my species is being fucked by a madscientist

should i let everyone be converted y/n
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new thread fucking when
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>>173267704
Change is the only option
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>>173267704
Why do you have a fucking horse as your main society-scientist?
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>>173267704
>this black hole...
>it was MADE for me!
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So I wanted to make a spiritual hivemind but normally it's impossible for some retarded reason. So I modified the empires like I used to back when the game was just released and this is what I've got when I tried to play.
Any idea how to get pass this? When did they add this? I havern't played for a long time.
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>been shitposting all day
>haven't even started playing the game
fuck me
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>>173268051
hes the scientist researching the event, so presumably thats what everyone will turn into if say yes
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>>173267704
Why contain it?
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>>173268142
You lost nothing. Game still shit.
sadly.
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>>173268165
Is the thing from the other side named Glitterhoof or some shit?
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>>173268104
>I modified the game to do something it shouldnt do
>Why doesnt it work?
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>>173268254
Pls stop demotivating me even more.
I think it's good, I'm just procrastinating to learn all the new shit and remember all the old shit.
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>>173268405
I'm asking beacuse it was possible to play with impossible empires after fucking with game files when I last played the game.
I just want to have a spiritual hivemind, there must be some mod or something to remove that restriction they added for no fucking reason.
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>>173267704
>not wanting to know what would happens.
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>>173268695
>>173268695
made it before this 404's you lazy fucks
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>>173268254
Every time I play Stellaris I feel like I'm playing an idle game.
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>>173268645
Just starting purifiers.
>NO DIPLOMACY
Expecting glorious crusade with no brakes attached. But its exactly no diplomacy - you can declare war and still play with the wargoals.
You just trade all(limited) diplo and -1000 relations and no possibility to keep some xeno slaves for some time for faster shooting guns and bonus unity from purged xenos.
Rest play all the same.
For some reason gameplay is just more rigid with more 'you can not do that' rules.
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>>173269028
Well at least Utopia adds some fun content, it's already something.
It's not like there is something better anyway.
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>>173266195

I would only build tall after I fill in my part of the map with the early game manifest destiny and then once all the other empires sprout up around me and block me off, then I'd build tall.

Sadly building tall isn't 100% an option in Stellaris so that's a shame. I know everyone here shits on its diplomacy system but being able to free controlled vassel states and shit is really cool.
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>>173269919
>Sadly building tall isn't 100% an option in Stellaris so that's a shame
Tbqh I think Utopia stuff makes it feasable. I've seen people doing fine with it, so it's not really impossible if you try hard enough.
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Are these ever worth doing?
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Holy shit, pacifist sucks.
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>>173270957
Is it an other empire or space fauna? In the latter case, there are some good bonuses available.
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