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old hag >>173182034
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sneks are not a combo deck
sneks are a plug n play extra wincon in your control and mid-vengeance decks
spread awareness to save a life
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I need a runecraft deck that's not dshift, dirt aggro or daria tempo.
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>>173203604
Does mangrove work like robinhood, hitting the enemy before they hit their target? I've never actually tested the amulet.
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>>173204436
You just listed every playable rune archetype.
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Make forest great again!
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THIS SHITTY FUCKING GAME LITERALLY GIVES ME THE SHITTIEST DRAWS POSSIBLE
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which Shadowverse is the biggest slut?
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>>173204436
>I need a runecraft deck that isn't the only 3 viable runecraft decks in the game
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Alright Dusting those 2 useless leggos in favour of this shadow deck was a good idea Holy shit
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>T1 Vanguard
>T2 Vanguard and TAG
>T3 Pompous Princess pulling a TAG
>T4 Pompous Princess pulling a TAG
>T5 Floral
>T6 Alwidas
Like fucking really?
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>pepecraft
what's the point
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>>173204552
>elves
>having rights
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>>173204628
Post your current leggos
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>>173204598

Goblin princess.
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>>173204436
Well that just leaves you with snowman PtP, have fun with that
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Post elf
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>>173204552
i just imagine elves and fairies being breeding material in a roach den, isn't that the only thing they're good for?
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>>173204696
dragon hunting
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>>173204436
Dirt Control and Dirt PtP are too weak against Shadow rn to bother with, and you've denounced the other good archetypes, so I guess you aren't playing Rune today
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>he doesn't play dragon/shadow
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>>173204529
afaik
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>>173204858
not him but what rune should i play in tog? any cheap deck?
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>>173204245
sAUCE
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Reminder that wallet dragon is actually super hard countered by Aegis/Grail haven if you don't suck.

Plop your cup down on 8. Does he D-blast? Congratulations, you're clear to Aegis without face pressure. You win.

Does he not? Drink your cup with hallowed and get 3 satan cards with a 75% of an Astaroth, and a 100% chance of one of Dis or Rider. You still win.

You only get fucked if they have get to lategame with 2 evolves and back to back Zell you. But, if they manage to get to lategame unpressured enough that they can do a 2-turn 4-card 2-evolve combo, you deserve to lose you turboshitter.
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>>173204742
>>173204742
>>173204742
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>>173204964
Moonie want list!
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>>173204696
add pepe to banner btw, he works in it too
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Fuck Soulsquasher. Why is this card allowed?

>oh you just evolved that one? Thanks
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>>173203894
>they need to start giving forest ways to actually take advantage of fairy generators.
These cards already exist, but the problem is, they all suck compared to Roach. So, nobody even bothers.
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>>173204950
Dirt Burn is your best bet.
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>>173204537
>>173204603
>>173204754
>>173204858
But what about Ginger?
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>>173205085
You listed every PLAYABLE rune archetype.
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>>173204964
>T8 do nothing
Thanks for the free Saha+Bahamut/Ouro and Zell evo.
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>>173205069

Hence the notion that forest needs something better than AE and roach.
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>>173204964
But storm ramp kills aegis though.
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How do you guys control your anger while playing?

I end up punching the desk, punching my thigh, yanking my hair, or scratching my arms to the point of bleeding. I've broken trinkets on my table as well.

I don't understand how other people can control their anger so well.
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Alright, so I have 2 Alberts, 1 gawain (Going to make more), and 3 otohimes (All drawn from packs).

How many more sword legendaries do I need for a deck? And what would it look like? Is Otohime useable with Gawain now?
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>>173205209
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>>173205069

They don't just suck compared to roach, they suck compared to the cards of every other class as well. Pretty much all the cards that aren't played in a roach/wolf deck are terrible. Even then they aren't great.
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>>173203894
the problem with forest is that the combo mechanic is supposed to give a bonus effect on top of the base effect, but all of the cards are so shit without the added effect that they basically have a hidden +2pp tax on them. cards like tia seem strong for 5pp, but the actual cost is 7pp. then you're forced to play garbage 1/1 fairies that are even less useful than the 1/1 knights in sword decks because there aren't as many or as good cards supporting them.
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>>173205209
not being autistic helps
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>>173205023
Only Zini is really bad. Not a terrible pull starting out. Do you know about the private match quests for 100g each?
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>>173205209
it's time to take a break
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>>173205075
burn? i know about the dirt sub-mechanic but what is burn?
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>>173204964
Literally impossible to "pressure" dragon as Haven. You can easily ignore their minions and soak damage to your face while ramping if and then play your board clears once you get to high enough PP. Doesn't matter if you're sitting at like 10 health or so after it, your average Haven deck has zero reach so you don't even feel threatened by them.

Once you get to 10 pp you basically never give them a safe turn to drop aegis or grail or whatever shitty wincon they're using. Literally the only way to lose as dragon is by bricking and never drawing your ramp or late game minions.
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http://usamin.love/card/sukuna_brave_and_small/j_summon.wav
i'm in love
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>>173205249
Oh, and one of those sword taunt legendary chicks.
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>>173205292
this nigga has it right
shit like metallurgist sounds great on paper, but in reality you need a 4p to even get the combo off, and then you have a shitty 2/1 on the field, with two even shittier 1/1s.
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>>173205340
basically aggro
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>>173205209
Just exit the game, alt + F4 exists for a reason. Then take a break for the rest of the day or even a few weeks. No reason to get that mad at a RNG game.
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>>173205209
My anger usually subsides after a few games and I just accept it's going to be one of those days.
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>>173205209
>How do you guys control your anger while playing?
i just stop playing, then once a few minutes pass i am calm and can think rationally again

although its not working that well anymore since i always get anxious as fuck when i load up the game now. i don't think i'll ever be able to enjoy playing again
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>>173205340

spell damage. half the "control" decks in shadowverse are burn decks.
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Forte so based
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>>173205209
>punching my thigh
do you have cute thighs?

>scratching my arms to the point of bleeding
i recommend biting them instead
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>>173205292
>>173205452
Combo mechanic is fucked because of 10 mana and 5 slot board cap.

Only roach can maximize due to its damn cheap as fuck.
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guys how do I stop my laptop going into nuclear meltdown when I play games? I literally only use it for morrowind and shadowverse. I can smell it burning a hole in my desk. no seriously, I smell burning.
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This is the dumbest shit and it almost never works but it's so satisfying to do when it does
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>>173205745
>intelshit
>not made for poaching eggs on youre cpu
when was the last time you cleaned up the insides? they are delicate things you know?
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>>173205745
----> /g/

generally you likely should check if it has some space below it for venting, laptops usually have vents on the bottom
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>>173205032
>>173205758
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>>173205768
daria pleases elephants now

oglers weren't enough
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>>173205610
>since i always get anxious as fuck when i load up the game now
Me too. Not sure why, even happens in unranked.
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>>173205768
Spicy.
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>>173205292

Yeah exactly, the combo effect is pretty taxing and most of the combos are just bad. They have such bad card draw as well, glimmering wings is a 2 mana draw 1 or draw 2 if you play two other cards. There need to be stronger effect that aren't just "play 2 cards get +1/+1", tia is good if you can get zero costs as well, but the only thing that really gives zero costs is like EPM and Feena. The combo minions are just given bad stats because they have an effect to make them okay with the combo, the combo should make them a lot better for the cost.

I would love to see different combos and them actually putting to use fairy generators, instead of just giving forest these useless generators that will probably never see play like fairy cage.

>>173205709

Roach is also the only combo effect that scales with a bigger combo for forest I believe. And it's pretty much forests only finisher outside of silver bolt so they pretty much have to use it, as they can't really rely on their weaker minions.
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>>173205745
MAJOR I'M BURNING UUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
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>>173205882
asking for tech support on /g/ is like asking for an anime like cowboy bebop recommendation on /a/.
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>>173206078
Unranked doesn't bother me at all, but I just hit AA2 and with the meta not being settled yet, I have a small fear of playing ranked right now because I don't want to lose an insane amount of points being relatively close to Masters.
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Why does rank never reset?
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>>173206087
>Roach is also the only combo effect that scales with a bigger combo for forest I believe.

There is Tam Lin but he is understated. Like the other anon said the combo cards pretty much has 2PP tax attach on them. So the other way to make these combo viable is for forest to have a way to reduce card cost in hand.
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>>173205292
Tia has gotten power-creeped so hard it's not even funny.

Costs 2 extra cards/tokens to use, or an evolution from a 4 pp minion that is extremely awkward to use going 1st. Basically 7PP for 6/6 rush when we now have cards that are 4/5 rush summon a 2/1, has no combo req and requires no extra cards to perform, is a must kill target because she gives evolves for free if not destroyed.

I see a lot of lists actually dropping her now because she requires too many cards/board space to use and is no longer good enough for all those downsides.
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>>173206290
its more like a 3 pp tax because generating fairies usually costs 1 pp
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>>173205249
no, go look up midrange albert sword deck on game-ai and forget about otohime.
All new sword legs and golds are average at best and control sword is more meme than ever.
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>>173205195
It's not that simple. The thing is EVERY Forest deck plays Ancient Elf and Roach. Whenever you hear the words 'Forestcraft' or 'Arisa' you immediately think of AE and Roach. Those two cards, and the style of play they encourage are integrated with the class' identity. If you are not playing Ancient Elf and Rhinoceroach in your Forest deck, then you are not playing Forestcraft. You are playing something else. It's not a simple matter of nerfing the cards, or making new cards that push AE and Roach out of old lists and fuck up the metagame. Players would still get pissed of no matter which decision here is made. These two cards restrict design space for the class, but at the same time, nerfing these cards would make the entire class unplayable overnight, and Cygames knows this.
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is this some new jank by our resident jap brewer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jx6EKP8Eqw
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>>173204436
Play pure neutral
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>>173206350
>no, go look up midrange albert sword deck on game-ai

that deck scares new players because it also has 3x tsubaki

tsubaki is optional for that deck, you can use dod instead
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I go where the road takes me
Time to settle down~
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Just beat a luna and she rage DCed on me, Its probably going to make me lose even though I won THERE we go I won
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>>173206270
Master is the real ranked and it resets monthly.
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>>173203084
>gert with ward

Dude, Lecia only protects Officers that were on board before her.

Think Liza.
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>>173206387

I don't think you could make a deck that works without AE or Roach just because the forest craft cards are so bad and the combos outside of roach are extremely weak with a high card tax. Do you think you could make a forest deck work well against other decks in the current meta without those cards? The problem with forest is they have so few options and their cards and a lot of the combo effects are just useless.
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>>173206441
he actually explains why it has tsubaki
you can go and do 12 face dmg on t7 with her and Arriet - better than enhanced albert
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>>173206387
>Whenever you hear the words 'Forestcraft' or 'Arisa' you immediately think of AE and Roach.

There is the reason this picture is editted this way >>173204552 .

However, if they really make something that is stronger and can replace AE and roaches entirely, I don't think anybody will complain. At least I won't.
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>>173206087
Why are most of the fairy generators so fucking bad? Fairy token generation seems to be worth about .5 PP. Then they print shit cards like Fairy Knight that's an entire 1PP over Blitz Lancer for 1 fairy.
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>>173206575
oh, you mean a totg deck i haven't seen yet

i meant a couple of rob decks there, or that #1 deck from twitter with 2 luminous mages, tsubaki is completely optional there imo

arriet + baki looks very interesting indeed
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>>173206387
elf really just relies on roach and ae to even stay alive what forest deck could you even make that would stand a chance against any other classes in this meta? i think the point is that the power of their other cards is so low they can't really get away from roach and ae
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>>173206318
But she's so cute. I don't want to have to drop Tia.
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>>173205209
I kill myself
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>main both shadow and dragon
>be garbage tier in DE and RoB
>mfw both shadow and dragon are tier 1 now
you all laughed at us look who's laughing now
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>>173206869
so you spent 40k on new cards?
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>tfw Ungoro looks really fun that I have no will to play SV anymore

What do, senpai???
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Just a little bit more
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>>173206631

Yes exactly I really want something like Fairy Princess to work out, or Rose Queen or even Fairy Cage. They really need to create cards that can actually take advantage of a lot of fairies, the problem is always 1/1 fairies taking up the small amount of board space and being useless 1/1 fairies that are only really there for combos (of which are pretty weak effects outside of roach). Then they just clutter up your hand most of the time, and that wouldn't even be a bad thing if you had more cards to use the size of your hand like bolt and will.

It's just they have so few options on how to play the class, and comboing outside of roach isn't even that good most of the time.
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>Last two dragons have been JO Pendants with Eggs
>didn't draw their mad cyclones
>wasted their salamander breaths on maids and vanguards
Just because you have removal doesn't mean you should use it every single opportunity you get. The 1 damage pings don't mean shit when you can heal for 4 HP a turn.
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>>173207001
shadowverse gets patched to shit while hearthstone gets patched to fun

what a time to be alive

>b-but muh magic card designers
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>>173206731
Same.
I was even lucky enough to get an animated Tia.

It kinda sucks that Aerin is taking her place
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>>173207001
>kabal is dead without Reno
>pirate gets spayed
>jade will run rampant

That is fun, right?
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>>173205209
>autism

i don't get particularly angry at games. yeh i might curse if some bullshit rng happens or i misplay or whatever but if i'm on a losing streak or something i just exit, do something else for a while and play later

shit nigga it's a fuckin game that's most popular with japs playing on their cell phones on the train - you should never be causing injury to yourself over weeb anime tiddie wizard poker
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>>173207167
>>173207001
go back to your pizza game and never come back
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/svg/ I'm so lonely...
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>>173206387
I don't have roach in this deck. I wonder why it loses like 80% of the time.
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they need to buff blood the same way they did with sword
Its unnaceptable that shadow can win in 6 turns, the same number as a pure aggro blood deck
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>>173207167
>he actually thinks ToG is shit

Is it because your classes are in the gutter?
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>>173207001
They are giving mages d-shift, but nothing seemed like that good to me, what even looked good?
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>>173205209
Take a fap.
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Someone post THAT midrange shadow deck.
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>>173205209
Don't give in to the anger. Some people say you need to release your anger or you'll explode. This is 100% false incorrect pop psychology. Actual research shows that acting out your anger actually makes you more angry. Calm down relax, and quit the game if your feeling angry and not having fun. Get back to it later.
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>>173188424
I've done T2 3 times and have never got shadowcraft as an option.
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>>173207297
desu I play shadow and I think totg is kinda shit.
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>>173207347
>midrange in totg
nigga what are you doing
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>>173207297
I play dragon and still think this expansion is shit.
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>>173205209
smoke

or learn to cope
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>>173207191
I go 2 Aerin 1 Tia out of respect but i know it's going to wind up fucking me eventually.
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>>173207245
aww, let me hug you!
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>>173207287
>aggro blood wins in 6 turns (lie, they can win in 4)
>THEY NEED A BUFF HURR IT SHOULD BE TURN 1
And buff the same way as they did sword? aggro sword is nonexistant right now what are you talking about
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>>173206190
Probably because /g/ isn't tech support and /a/ isn't the recommendation board.
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>>173206718
the power level of roach and ae are so high that other avenues aren't even explored. theoretically a control forest list would do well against dragon since you have access to lily and bounce effects on top of the standard removal packages to render most of their threats useless.

forests lack of draw is another limiting factor here but you could still run gobu to try to pull lily and against unga shadow being able to get may off it will be nice. 3 grimnirs, 3 ancient elves, 2-3 jungle alberts, and 3 aerins should theoretically give you enough wards to fight off storm ramp as well.
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>>173207245
We're here with you playing children's card games and shitposting. Chin up.
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>Playing Gingercraft in unranked because memes
>Not taking shit seriously because it's >Ginger< and I'm just messing around with different combos
>Constantly run into netdeck Dshifts or Aggro Rune
>They always, *ALWAYS* mash-spam emotes right before killing me

What is it about Daria that attracts these types?
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>>173207530
Having a decent winrate and playing a fun deck while climbing without subjecting myself to the aggro cancer.
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>>173207304
Rogue and Shaman quest cards looks fun
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>>173207714
>muh netdecks
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I just can't find any use for Queen Zoe. This card just fucking ruins every deck you put her in.
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>>173207304
Free dinosaur gold card and 2 free packs baby.
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>>173207565
I'd like to wind up fucking you eventually.
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>>173207304
>mage is getting dshift

And hearthbabbies actually defend it? Are they stupid or something
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>>173207603
aggro sword is literally the only viable sword since rise of bahamut
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>>173207801
is there any combo with sonya+dark jeanne and queen zoe
looks retarded as fuck but can work
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>>173207245
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fresh off the meme press
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>>173207876
Winning with evo'd albert on turn 9 is not aggro
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>>173204696
>tfw playing dragon
>fight sword
>he just puts amulets down
>I flood the board with nereids and orca
>he summons pepe just before he lost
>he couldn't even touch my hp
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>>173207912
no because Zoe will just keep killing your luxwings, birds, Mainyus, etc then she dies to evolved follower leaving you with no board
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>>173207954
Humpty memes are top tier
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>>173204352
No thanks, the best way to help retards is to let them hang with their own stupidity.
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>>173205391
Literally
Just literally

Just learn to play the literal fucking deck
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So are there any good/fun swordcraft decks right now?

I keep seeing people playing jank like otohime in masters, I think I'd like to get in one that desu.
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>>173207972
running a 5 drop as highest cost card is obviously control my bad

just because you dont want to admit it doesnt change the fact that sword is dead outside of retard facedecks
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>>173207801
She's useful in Guardian Sun. Of course you have to actually have the amulet out or else she's just a brick. So she's pretty much shit.
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>>173207684
control forest can't really compete sure you could take out some threats for 6pp with a 1pp bounce but they can drop a lot of big threats, also control forests lack of board clears is another big issue, sure you have will for a max of 8 random damage but outside of that you can't really control the board

other classes have actual cards to control the board as well as clear and minions that actually do stuff after they are killed to make their board a lot stickier and don't suffer from a combo tax. i really doubt a control forest deck would work at all currently especially without forests good cards ae and roach if you took those cards away forest would probably be unplayable that is why people have just stuck with roach/bolt decks because forest can't really compete in any other way with other classes
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Why do I run into the Dshift players with the nuts that play triple flame destroyer double dshift on turn 8 while deleting my whole board at every turn.

This is why Shadowverse has evolved into "OTK out of hand decks" You don't play followers to give Dshift to spellboost off of.
Then you do some stupid bullshit Roach/Azaiel/Zell OTK.
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>>173205068
>He evolved and rushed to hit a follower
>I have Siegfried in hand
The best feeling
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>>173208193
Pepecraft
Ignore the fact that you have to concede when they: kill pepe, play a ward, play aggro, play removal, play test of strength, you dont have pepe+buffs on turn 2
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>>173207490
>>173207539
>wanted their classes to be great
>it's shit now they are great

You guys are just jumpers, right?
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I dont know if im going crazy, but Ramp Dragon seems like the easiest deck to pilot in the game.

Even easier than aggro bats.
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>>173208232
I wish fairies can piggyback/equip on other cards to save board space.
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>>173207313
Is that you Chameleos?
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>>173208324
I had more fun with Nep.
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>>173208232
Not to mention that roach and silver bolt are really their only finisher cards. They have a new storm card with beetle warrior now for 4 storm damage though at least it's something. I know a lot of people complain about roach mainly because it's the only thing forest can do most of the time.
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>>173208416
That sounds like a fun idea
We need a card that turns fairies into buffs
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>>173207670
no shit

that was my point buddy
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>mastema goes through test of strength

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ALLOWED? WHEN DID BLOOD GET THIS FUCKING AEGIS
FUCK OFF
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>>173208212
Tsubaki is 6pp tho.
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>>173208587
Because she can't hit followers you dweeb
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>>173208587
so do lurching corpse and attendant of night, their text only allows them to hit leaders/wards
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>>173208416
That would be neat like just think of an amulet like this:

Fairy fusion
3pp

whenever you have 3 fairies on the board they combine together becoming a greater fairy

greater fairy
4/4
rush

or something like that. That would save board space and give you a better way to take advantage of fairy generators.
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>>173208587
So Mastema and Lurching can will ignore test as long there's no wards. Interesting.
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>>173207304
Midrange Shadow is the best deck in the game right now, it has no weak matchup.
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>Trying to ward up against forest as control sword
>place durandal at 12hp
>he removes my ward with recovered evolve point, then hits me with 0 cost wolfbolt and plays 2 roaches
what a fucking joke
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From 1r9j to 1r9m and am doing quite better.

I didn't have all the cards the deck in the OP suggested but I'm doing much better. Though I feel slightly less spooky with this deck.
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>>173208610
No, Tsubaki is my wife.
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>>173208456
I'm still having fun with Nep. Certainly the weakest variant of Shadow but it still fucks Ramp.
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>>173206869
>Main Sword
>Race shadow and win a decent amount of the time
>Dragon is free to frog memes
Unga bunga
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>>173208656
>>173208693
>>173208716
READ WHAT IT SAYS YOU FAGGOTS
>Leaders CANNOT be attacked if there is a follower that can be attacked in their area
I HAD 2 FOLLOWERS AND SHE WENT RIGHT THROUGH
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>>173208754
Aerin is one of the best cards of the expansion, don't let the knife ears trick you into thinking they're weak.
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>>173208708
>turn 3 do nothing
Make it generate 2 Fairies and we have a deal.
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>>173208856
She is a big girl
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>>173208587
get fucked aegis shitter
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>>173208587
i have seen the weirdest case of ignoring test of strength on a jap stream yesterday, flame rats ignored it whatsoever. no, i don't mean their burn damage, they attacked face too
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>>173208856

Now go and read Mastema's text, then come back here and admit you're an idiot
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>>173208856
Read the rest of the text you mongoloid.
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>>173208856
cards always trump
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>>173208856
There isn't a follower that can be attacked, because those cards can only attack leaders.
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>>173208856
Magic words CAN ATTACK
Mastema cannot attack them
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>>173208754
he cant remove your ward with just one hit from evo lol
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Haven sword or forest for take two?
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>>173205745
>i7
This is the future you chose.
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>>173208796
>TAKEMYBLADEOFRESENTMENT
>VANISH.....LIKE.....THE JEEWWWWSS
Nice wife there you pedo.
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>>173208856
READ MASTEMAS EFFECT

TEST OF STRENGTH=/= WARD
SHE CANNOT HIT FOLLOWERS WITHOUT WARD
NO EXCEPTIONS
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>used to have a viable deck for every class pre tog and life was good
>expansion drops
>all my decks are suddenly shit
>spent all my vials on serpent blood so i can at least have one deck i can play
>its shit too
>now have no vials, and no viable decks to complete dailies
jsut end my fucking life familia
i really wanted those 12k rewards too
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>>173208856
>if there is a follower that can be attacked
mastema cannot attack followers without wards

same for lurching/attendant

so when you drop tos she still has no followers that she can attack and therefore can go face
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>>173208754
What card does 12 damage with an evo?
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>>173207801
She was probably designed for that reverse t2 thing to fuck up your opponent
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>>173209054
I'll admit I'm a pedo if you admit she's a good wife, dumb frogposter.

Besides, jews should all vanish.
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>>173209072
it was wolfbolt 4 roach 4 and roach 4
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>>173209065
>spending vials to craft 3 legendaries immediately instead of just waiting a few days to see the meta
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>>173208587
That's pretty interesting exception.
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>>173209065
Lmaoing at everyone falling for sneks and blood decks.
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>>173209065
try that baphomet pulling mastema aggro midrange deck, or aggro bats, possibly with airjammer
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>>173209016
>>173209072
He was at 12 hp not the ward
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>>173209072
Does anything do? Albert and Jungle Warden only do 10. Saha+Baha+Zell does 13 by it's not a single card.
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>>173209065
aporo's serpent deck looks decent
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>>173209065
Same, but I pulled 2 eachtars.
Midrange shadow is basically the only deck I have now.

On the flipside, its a godlike deck, at least.
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>>173204780
Best girl
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Banner is still good.
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>>173209267
a lot of cards do
evolved albert buffed with headpats for instance
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>>173208587
>People still not figuring out the secret T1 mastema midrange blood deck
>>
>Save up to 9k vials
>I can vial up more extra shit to make it 11k or more

Which should I craft
>1 Saha+2 Isra for my incomplete ramp
>2 jungle bungas+2 aerins for my outdated pseudo otkroachwolfbolf
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Only thing that can shut me down consistently is that fucking aegis
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>>173208954
Test of Strength seems to only affect followers as they enter play.

However Flame Rats are the result of a transformation so I'm guessing that's why they get a pass.
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>>173209424
Ramp is the best deck right now. So dump vials into that?
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>>173208161
I play dragon not haven you faglord.

>hiding the "storm" ramp winrate in your screenshot
I never have a problem with Haven because I run storm minions and zell. That is what I was explaining to you. Haven can't pressure me for shit because they have shit minions and no reach. Literally the only way I lose the matchup is never drawing a single ramp card which is a pretty low chance considering near 1/4 of the deck is ramp.

There are also much shittier dragon decks out there than Haven decks because of the vial cost and number of minions you can stuff in dragon. Shitty ramp decks with no reach are the only things that lose to Haven.
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>>173209352
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>>173208587
>goes through test of strength like aegis
>comes 4 turns before aegis
>has only 2 less attack (or same evolved)
>Has bane
>costs 2k less vials
Best girl?
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>>173209532
She looks soft and underage
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>>173209532
softest elf
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>>173209591
truly the best combo
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>>173209568
>dies to card effects and removal
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>>173209065
>Playing non-Aggro blood ever
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>>173209568
People often let your Mastema live for some reason. If you curve her into stolen life you can instantly threaten lethal.
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>>173209568
Her only flaw is she makes the opponent draw their hard removal as soon as she's played.
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>>173209591
>>173209620
More soft
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>>173209671
Don't post my wife without permission ever again.
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Can someone please Concede? 43257
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Why are swordfags still playing stormcancer? It has low winrate. Fuck off.
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>>173209793
Your wife
My woman
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>>173209847
>swordfags win 93% of their games with albert
>Why they still playing storm?!
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>>173209847
are you playing unranked? that is my only sword deck and i needed to finish a daily
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Aggro mirror is so stressful, it's literally a coinflip to see who goes first and win.
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>>173209568
>my first game with mastema bats yesterday
>have 2 mastema on hands
>play the first one
>2 hungry horde and a follower is traded into her
>play the second one
>an evolved snek (one of 2) is traded into her

sleep tight, girl, you paved the road to victory
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>>173209847
It's not like they have anything else that works well except maybe Pepecraft.
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>>173209374
I really want to try this except I'm short 2 Mastema.
And also vials.
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>>173208387
Ramp Dragon mirror is the one of the few matchups which requires strategy and thinking in this game.
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>>173209374
It feels worse than balphegor+meme dealer+Led Zeppeling deck to me.
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>>173209919
Then play midrange instead.
All you have to do is survive until turn 6.

Death's breath is often an instant concede or they have to blow their phantom howl nut clearing zombies.
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What's this Bastema list you guys talking about? Is it just bats with her?
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>>173204245
>All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
So what is uncencroed? Is it just a few to lewd cards or is it a lot of stuff?
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Forest is occasionally great against Shadow if you have the right cards to use.
>May their 1/1s one after another
>Wards, heals, wards, extra evo points w/ Aerin
>No banish for Wolf
>Not too many wards against roaches
That said, if it gets to set up against you it still fucks you.
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>>173209697
What about that guy that makes everyone immune to spell effects if he can be targeted by effects? Or is that if he himself gets hit by anything
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>>173210079
Just Isaboob's tiddies.
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>>173209476
Shadow is not only better but cheaper.
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>>173210053
the main idea is like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-f7GwSIf-E
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My personal dshift brew

Record so far is 33/40 in A rank+some private games against people in AA/Masters

Every single win I've started the Dshift kill no later than turn 8. This variation is so much more fun than traditional Flame Destroyer lists because there's a fuckton more thought involved, and you win A LOT of games with Blade Mage + Buff + Dshift that you'd otherwise lose if you drew an FD.

Plus you can win some games without even casting dshift. For MtG players, this build feels like a perfect mix of Splinter Twin + Legacy Storm.
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>>173210053
bats, stolen life and Baphomet for tutoring
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>>173210079
It's only isabella's chest I think, they didn't really censor any cards. I honestly think the extra part to her shirt looks better though.
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>>173209919
You can still win going 2nd either by getting lucky and drawing better or managing to control the board better. Make more trades than you usually would.
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Dragons are now running Conflagration on top of their Breath + Grimnir + Bahamuts + Lightning Breaths

when do the board wipes stop
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A Dshift player didn't clear my Gawain for 3 turns.
I was able to play 2 Alberts and Roland in a single turn.
That was the biggest brick if I ever saw one. I mean jesus if you have a flame destroyer just fucking play it.
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>>173210143
>>173210183
Have a example somewhere?
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>>173210126

t7 is kind of late for that deck

t6 with a weak t5 because you have used enhanced baphomet on t5 is probably even worse
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>>173210079
Only Isabelles breasts got covered up
All the cards are uncensored like pic related which shows even more tits than Isabelle
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oh god, dragonclaw pendant + grimnir is fucking dirty
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>>173210221
Don't worry anon, it'll stop when they tech in discard your hand for 5 damage to all followers
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Does Roland instawin against D shitters?
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>>173210319
not vs blade mages + enchanted sword version
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>>173210248
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>>173210248
This is the only thing that changes
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>>173210319
If they're playing the blade mage variant it doesn't matter once they have enough blade mages.
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>>173210310
with 2 out it's a 12 damage aoe + dmg to face
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I fucking hate havens, they keep shitting on me
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>>173210487
What are you playing?
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>>173210487
that's the birds
>>
>Take too long to calculate my Roach lethal, which I figured out to have as the turn passed away
>Against dragon with 3 followers on field
>"Oh fuck I'm dead"
>He actually didn't have lethal
>Just 9 pp silver bolt him to death next turn anyway
I didn't deserve to win that.
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>>173210698
use a cheat sheet

it really helps
>>
>Aggro shadow wins more consistently
>Midrange shadow is infinitely more fun

The struggle
>>
Oh wow, Im on a loosing streak now..sortof depressing but whatever this decks really fun
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Urd is hot
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>>173210406
>>173210412
>those California Gold tiddies
Bueno.
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>>173211093
Why do they all look like they're from hentai?
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>>173211037
Are you gay? Even grimnir is more attractive than her and he is a guy (male)
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>>173205745
Buy a one of these and use your laptop on it.
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>>173211183
That is probably just your filthy mind projecting onto those pure innocent maidens. You dog!
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>rune is now the least played class on syadoreco, even worse than forest
>also has the worst winrate
Rune is now officially the worst class, it died even faster than Haven after RoB who at least had their statue to hold on to. Kikegames really outdid themselves this time.
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>everyone in take 2 has a fully constructed deck
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Will they ever do another monthly top 1000 reward again?
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>>173211273
Hey, I recognize this from a Persona 3 doujin. Shit, you're right, I have a filthy mind.
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>>173211183
California gold is. Everything afterwards until african queen isnt as far as I know
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>enchanted sword makes CJ rune viable

You're like a good version of D-shift.
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>>173211357
>CJ
?
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>>173211308
>That poor anon who had aegis, bahamut and seraph played against him in T2
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>>173211292
good, rune is SHIT
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>>173211292
>class' best deck flooded the board nonstop
>dragon now clears the board nonstop
What did cygames mean by this
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>>173210319
no since your deck is slow and they ping your face all game with dmg less than 4
the problem with roland is that game doesn't really rely on that much huge fucking followers with a lot of attack
i think if it was 3 dmg not 4 it would be much much better
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>>173209438
So draconification into zell could bypass test of strength
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>>173209928
post deck? I wanna try it
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>>173205209
music man and also fapping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa5EMD3bon0
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>>173211454
>i think if it was 3 dmg not 4 it would be much much better
who would fucking doubt

i also think if a follower has 7 attack instead of 5 he hits better than a follower with 5 attack
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>>173211437
It's not even the board clear, it's the absurd amount of healing from Dragon that fucks Daria over.
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>>173211308
>play against a Dragon who had Ouroboros, Sybil, 2 Lightning Blasts, and Olivia
>your best card is Ice Blade Warfiend
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>>173211539
i mean
4 dmg is like nothing
because it doesn't even counter most of the evolved t4 followers OR any aggro
that was i meant
ofc it will be better either way
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>win all five games on take two
>buy some packs with these 250 rupees
>Roland

Why do i always get shit i don't want
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>>173211524
i have posted a youtube vid with a link to the guide already

my deck is slightly modified though, i added 2 dod on the cost of 1 night horde and 1 stolen life
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>>173211562
le balanced miko of 6/7 evo, heals and mana orbs
>>
>could easily win against a forest player in unranked
>their deck is garbage and they're obviously playing for a daily win
>concede
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Get fucked Luna you little shit
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>>173211737
Didn't your mom tell you to not bully
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>>173211604
>Ice Blade Warfiend
Who
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>>173211497
probably

have anybody tested it?
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>>173211803
lich king
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>>173211737
how do you get the game to look like that? The only resolutions I can get look like a phone and can't see shit
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>>173211604
>tfw warfriend is not viable now

i crafted one back then/
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>>173211840
Ice Blade hungers!
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>>173211604
Wish I could make these longer, but this was after he oroborus my t6 to remove cynthia, bahamut t7, oroborus t8 then the webm starts I get a lucky top deck at the end but dragon does so much healing now
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If they wanted Roland to be good, Durandal should give spell immunity to every swordcraft follower and the amulet can't be destroyed or banished.
The damage reduction is a joke when Dshift can't still plow right through it.
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>>173211882
Have you tried manually resizing?
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>>173211882
What are you talking about man

I just drag the window to whatever size i want it to be
>>
why the fuck tarnished grail damages your minions too
what the fuck they were thinking
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>>173211969
The cards still won't look vertical like that.
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>>173211719
>Playing a garbage self made deck
>Play another person with a garbage deck
>Play it out to see who's deck is less shitty

This happened just earlier, it was fun.
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>>173212008
>make a path to purgatory deck
>FORGET TO PUT PTP IN
>no other win condition
>still win
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>>173211958
They should have made it so you can only take a maximum of 4 damage per character per turn

Then it would actually be playable
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>>173211995
the grail carries a bunch of demonic shit anon what did you expect and qt girl that will rape your enemy until one health?
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>>173211917
There is but don't do it man, Luna is not for lewd.
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>>173212004
I have no idea what you mean, post a picture
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>>173207801
Combo her with Dark Jeanne. Basically the game plan is have followers with HP 3 and above before turn 6, then drop Dark Jeanne. You can slip in 10 damage if done right or outright win the game by turn 6.

Haven also have that Octopus guy that synergized with Zoe and Dark Jeanne.
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>Sword player trying to play peek a boo with frogs
>gets both frogs to plus 5
>can't handle the skeleton horde
>>
Is the meta settled yet?
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>>173211719
I wish I ran into you, I suffered for 2 hours trying to win with roachless forest
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>>173212130
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>>173212110
i know it's filled with demonic cum
that stat makes it pretty bad
also nuns always horny and can be seduced by things like that
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>>173212130
I want to rape Luna until I mindbreak her into believing her parents are dead and that she's all alone!
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>>173209358

Post list man. You can't possibly still be using a completely unchanged banner deck, can you?
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>>173212130
Girls are cute. Girls are lewd. Girls are cute and lewd.
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>>173212130
Please?
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Need advice, I Just pulled a cerberus from a pack, SHould I replace my Disciple of the moon for her? OR swap out something else?
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How do I improve this? Need to cut 2 cards since it's 42/40

And how badly do I need to craft belphegor?
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>>173212398
-2 lucifer
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>>173211292
yeah i really wonder what they were thinking giving a 9pp mana cheat to a class that already has built in mana cheat
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>>173212350
http://i.imgur.com/sDms9mO.png
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Reminder to always relax and think things through when playing Forest. Arisa won't let you down.
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>>173212398
Sadistic night is shit imo and I can't comprehend why anyone thinks otherwise.
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>>173212398
Thats a spicy kys memedeck right there
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>>173212479
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>>173212398
Sadistic night is a piece of shit

don't need lucifers
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how necessary are windgods in the new aggro shadow? i don't have any and was thinking about crafting a couple
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>>173212547
they are not needed
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>>173212547
they aren't

its better to just drop cerberus
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>>173212382
Disciple is not very good, her only good use is to help Tyrant bypass ward, otherwise Goblin and Fighter are always the better 1-drop.
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>>173212547
Not necessary at all.
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>>173212547
It necessary at all. I dropped them and I feel like I do better without
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>>173212252
not sure it's how psychotherapy works
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I just realized that I've been playing this fucking game for more than half a year already.
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>>173212616
I'll never understand why anyone would want to plop down a wind god on turn 5

The only reasonable excuse is you can't run 6 cerbs
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>>173212547
I feel like she's a win more card.
A lot of times I wished I didn't put her in, so I took her out.
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>>173212536
>>173212442
alright, I'll take those guys out. that's 38. should I toss in a couple of vanias? or maybe goblinmounts?

>>173212479
pic related

>>173212501
reeeee
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>>173212547
they are again memed into aggro shadow at the beginning of expansion and then dropped from the lists
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>play cannoncraft
>face shadow
>they play mordecai
>completely worthless
>face haven
>they play aegis
>completely worthless
fun game
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>>173211623
>doesn't like his majestic armpit

wtf anon
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>release rahab to cuck aggro
>release orthrus in the same expansion
what did cygames mean by this
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>>173211292
Good, fuck Rune. I hope it's never viable again.
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>>173212759
>his
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Made me cry.
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>>173212803
Roland isn't a man name?
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>>173212795
i hope haven is next
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>>173212795
burn rune will make the deck viable again :^)
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>>173212110
but why does it show your opponent which cards you get.
is there some lore behind this too
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Is there a reason why Elana players believe they're skilled for beating aggro? It's like they think curving out with followers that have healing effects stapled on to them is any more skillful than curving out with storm followers.
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>>173212846
max tilt not even evoing soul squasher
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>>173212946
>only way rune can hope to be viable is to copy JO
Sad!
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>>173213025
>any haven player thinking hes skilled
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I need pictures of shadowverse girls wearing plated armored boots
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>>173211308
>play shadow
>vs blood player who tried to make a fully constructed maelstrom deck
>crush him
>go 4/5, get two packs and get legendaries out of both
today has been kind to me
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can I get a concede please
10373
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>>173213151
Thats extremely specific
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>>173213025
>>173213118
nice try we all know how difficult haven is to pilot, or would be if i wasn't a genius
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Is it still worth crafting Forte?
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>>173213275
thanks!
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>3rd dark jeanne
fuck off!
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and remember boys and girls don't emote spam or it could happen to you too
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>>173213464
So what now, you can only use one emote?
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>>173213408
She just wants you to sniff her armpits dude
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>>173213570
Disgusting you're going to the shadow realm for this
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>>173211292
I made a mistake. At least now I can get hipster cred, rather than op-netdecker-cred
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Is she even good?
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>>173213570
>>/gbfg/
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>>173213548
even worse It's a tiny bit annoying to click on cards and I can only congratulate the opponent rather than demean them by apologizing
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>>173213151
She's not in SV yet but one can hope.
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>>173213654
>247 wins
>A0
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>>173213809
post yours
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>>173213720
Is she wearing fucking heelys?
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>>173212260
Well, I'm using completely unchanged "my" banner deck, I never netdeck, so it probably has differences to the "usual" banner deck.
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>>173213672
No.
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>>173213894
Sorry, forgot to mention there is 2 Alwida's and 1 Gabe on the right.
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>>173213672
very good in face dragon, especially against unga shadow.
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>>173213894
>fearless banneret
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>>173212467
This looks like a different version
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I haven't played in a long while. Did they change Veteran Lancer's voice? I swear she said "Leave thith to me!" with a lisp and a huskier voice.
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>>173214029
i am lazy ok anon
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>>173214051
I have the japanese voices on, and it's like just for her I always hear the english voice and it is different.
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>>173214051
they changed quite a few i'm not sure why
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>>173213809
>Playing meta decks to rush Master as quickly as possible with the least amount of wins
>not playing meme decks for fun
why do you hate fun anon?
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>>173213152
Oh wow you too? Todays been awesome since I started playing shadow, some hilarious wins
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>>173214101
>>173214169
Damn, I miss the lisp. It gave her character. She's so bland now.
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>>173213884
Here's mine back when I reached A1

>>173214204
Meta decks are fun though
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>>173213672
I lost my 5-0 when they managed to topdeck that one. Other than that, no.
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>>173214204
nice excuse nerd xd
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>>173214026
It creates awkward evolve turns for my opponent.
I don't want to use the Princess for consistent Maid fetch of either Banner or Albert.
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>>173213809
>>173213884
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>>173214323
different replier but wew lad
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>>173214095
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>>173214169
NA voice actors guild is on strike because they want more money.
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>>173214323
Do you have a bot for sandbagging or something?
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>>173214323
filthy sandbager
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I'm trying to get a fresh start since I fucked up and liquefied everything in a fit. Do we still get like 20~ packs for starting an account every time?
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top streamer on nico is playing anomaly cforest
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Need a concede, please.
38931
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>>173214220
>>173214051
Dumb dubcuck。Stay in /hsg/
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:^)
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>>173214405
Simple script
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>>173213809
Oh god I hope im not shit

Besides the whole B3 thing of course
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You have exactly 15 seconds to explain yourselves dubcucks
http://usamin.love/card/orthrus/e_attack.wav
http://usamin.love/card/orthrus/e_death.wav
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>>173214615
>barrage instead of tempest
You are not gonna get over the zombies wall like that.
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>>173214560
Thanks, BBA nun.
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>>173214710
This card is the only reason I havent gotten rid of the dub for TotG cards.

Its just too fucking cute
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>>173213885
wouldn't you if you were a girl? they look hot
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What would you do here?
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>>173214712
implying anyone uses zombies anymore
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>judge of retribution shoots a water spout for his attack
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>>173214710
I mean, she is a dog.
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>>173214807
holy water!
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>>173214779
Death's Breath is a core card in Midrange Shadow.
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>>173214767
Urd the Ouroboros and concede
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>>173214767
All in with Genesis
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>>173213720
Is that Nike?
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>>173214860
i know that, but when was the last time you saw midrange instead of aggro shadow
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>>173214846
i wish vampy sometimes made angy wolf noises too
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>>173214710
>literally half dog
>makes dog noises
I see nothing wrong here.
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>>173214767
Apply Genesis Dragon directly to the forehead. You probably won't win by playing defensively at this point.
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>>173214767
Trade with genesis and attack face with ward. Next turn attack with both if they're alive.
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http://usamin.love/card/spiderweb_imp/e_evolve.wav
http://usamin.love/card/spiderweb_imp/j_evolve.wav

which one, /svg/?
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>>173214710
I wish Cygames would implement a system where they could let you choose which voices you wanted to hear for each card individually.
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>>173214896
midrange looks really similar to aggro, they could just kill you without knowing
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>>173214871
>>173214947
Yea I went all in with the Genesis. Ended up winning 2 turns later when I finally drew Forte.
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>>173214710


orthus a doggo
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>>173214846
>>173214946
Are you saying that the commisar is a bitch?
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>>173214767
Genesis, SMorc, hope for the best.
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>>173214896
I'm actually playing Midrange more than Aggro right now. It's the 3rd most popular deck right now at a whooping 58.4% winrate, GameAI just moved it up to T1 so expect more of it in the future.
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71468
Concede please
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>>173214993
>trade into a minion that puts your 10 drop at 1 health and sends it back into your opponents hand
>that minion also deals 3 damage on fanfare
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>tfw Albert forces a concede even when your opponent has 12 HP and you have 1
I don't care if sword is shit now, Big Al is too much fun.
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NOW, JUMP INTO THE WING
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>>173214710

Does JP version go wan-wan?
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>>173214993
Did you forget what Ouroboros does? If he trades with Genesis, it'll just get sniped by Ouroboros and his ward traded into with an evo. At that point he'll be really fucked.
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>>173215120
I play both too, i've just never seen anything apart from aggro
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>>173214405
>>173214486
What is sandbagging?
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>>173215139
Fuck it's 71486
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So I heard that Mid Sword is back to Tier 1.

The fuck happened? I thought Sword was shit?
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>>173215178
Hear for yourself.

http://svdb.ze.am/#/card/104521020
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>Zirnitra, Mythril Golem, Heavenly Aegis
All I got from packs on a fresh account. Reroll?
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>>173215187
Purposely losing to stay in lower rank
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>>173215187
Intentionally losing to keep your rank low so it's easier to get score rewards and keep from having to go against better players.
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>>173215187
Intentionally not ranking up and losing points so you fight low rank people
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>>173215139
>>173215216
Thank you Dork.
>>
These fucking Koreans are WHALERS AS FUCK.
All fucking full Ramp Dragon users. Holy shit.
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>>173215148
>>173215183
I thought the other guy might use the 3 to the ward and then evolved zell to clear the ward and then Ouro for face.
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>big guy gets plopped down
>no themis
>use holy water
>still no themis
>use another one
>tfw you draw themis
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>>173215268
Yes
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>snek blood vs ramp dragon
>he only has 1 card in hand at 6hp
>mask+snek on my board at 16hp
>top decks bahamut
>play raw sneks and hungering the bahamut
>top decks forte
>face by bahamut at 3hp
>hit face with remaining snek then drain+revelation to clear baha
>at 5hp
>plays dragon warrior and that one that +1/+1 buffs on overflow
>0 cards in his hand
>kiss to be out of forte range and revelation
>at 7hp
>top decks genesis
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>>173215263
WEW
E
W

Reroll
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>start playing sv pretty soon a couple months after gadgetzan release
>liquify all my non-shadow cards and buy skellinton hero like a pro
>play control shitowcraft all through bahamut meta like a pro
>craft all the good new shadow cards when tog comes out like a fucking pro
>un'goro out tomorrow morning
later you weaboo fucks i'll see you in a few months
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>>173215289
>>173215298
>>173215310
I guess his happens later? I've never lost score for losing before.
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>>173215268
Reroll that shit. If you are opening packs as a fresh starter, you should try getting around 5-7 legendaries. Also Zinitra and and Mythril are shit.
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>>173215314
Yes they fucking are.
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>>173215330
He had the Heart of the Cards
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>>173215314
If you played dragon in RoB you dont even need to whale for ramp in TotG.
If you're a bandwagoner though who vialed all his dragon stuff, then you're in trouble.
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>>173215378
Alright, I'll keep at it.

Any specific legendaries I should keep an eye out for? It gives 10 packs for each expansion. I'd like to go Dragon or Blood since I like the play styles, but whatever works.
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Game-AI's new OTK Forest deck for anyone who's interested.

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.65cLM.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.65YC2.65YC2.68zBM.68zBM.68zBM.61qeS.61qeS.61qeS.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.68_dS.68_dS.68_dS.659nE.659nE.659nE.6DEdM.6DEdM.6DEdM.6DEdC.6DEdC.6DEdC.6DH3I
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>>173215339
>adapt and jade

Nice game.
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>>173215258
>Mid Sword is back to Tier 1.
Where did you hear this?
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>>173215430
How does one play this? I'm rather new to the game.
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>>173215325
This is why you also run Tribunal and sometimes Iron Maiden(surprisingly good card).
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>>173215502
Rhinoceroaches and Ancient Elves are absolutely necessary. Don't even think about playing this deck without them.
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>tfw you Zell+ Satan Servant on t9
Feelsgoodman
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>>173215534
OH, I'm stupid. You put a roach down and keep spamming 1 summons and elves?
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>>173215512
>random

Good luck bypassing their Aegis.
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>>173215502
Fish for roaches with goblin mage and feena. Fill your hand with 0 mana fairies for roach combos. Can stall mid game with big wards & heal with elf reno. Win with roach combos.
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>>173215325
>6pp card
>to kill one target
Not good tradeoff, just use your 4pp amulets to kill that Magical big guy
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>>173214213
yeah, recently finished making my cata deck and been having loads of fun with it.
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>hallowed dogma forbidden ritual
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>>173215597
No, you put the roach on the board, bounce it back to your hand and play it again. The more cards you play on your turn, the bigger the roach gets.
>>
>>173215339
How's B-rank and sub-legend treating you
>>
it's kinda weird that all those dragon bandwagoners are momposting so furiously
That didn't happen with Daria
>>
Daria is still broken.
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>>173215321
The opponent would be taking a massive gamble that he doesn't have another Genesis or Urd, for absolutely no reason.
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>>173215610
Big Guy means Hulking Giant, not Aegis.
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>>173215502
If you're new you definitely don't want to start out with forest, It's not a noob friendly craft
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>>173215631
>>173215669
Got it. I'll work on getting the cards and play with it.
>>173215716
It does seem a bit RNG. Or is it one of those "looks easy, but is actually really fucking hard to master" things?

It reminds me of an old yugioh strat I used back when it was still an early game before GX.
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>>173215714
Not everything has to be a meme.
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>>173215430
>Game-AI
Nah.
>>
>>173215502
Forestcraft is for new people is a hard deck to play. So unless you really are going to commit to it, save it for later when you understand the game more.

>>173215761
>It does seem a bit RNG.
No it isn't. You need to calculate. You need to math properly or else you're just going to get fucked every game.
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>>173215258
some guy invented a version of albertsword with arriet on tsubaki :^)
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>>173215673
who the fuck said i even made it to b rank
>>
>>173215761
Hard to master. Shitters here will tell you it's tier 2 while some japs go on 20+ win streaks in masters with it.
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>>173215750
>>173215835
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any of this shit worth vialing?
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>>173215258
>>173215841
Post this allegedly Tier 1 mid sword deck please.
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>>173215836
Well I want to win games, so I guess I'll get to learning. Appreciate the help.

>>173215856
This is good incentive to learn the class. Thanks.
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>>173215430
that 1x liza

at least i could understand 1x dungeon fairy in that 30 + winstreak deck
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>>173215164
It isn't even that shit. People just aren't using the new cards in it. I've literally not seen one fucking sword using meme chuuni, and only a handful of them use luminous commander.
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>>173215940
>Well I want to win games, so I guess I'll get to learning. Appreciate the help.
You picked the wrong time to want to play it is the problem.
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>>173215660
I dusted 2 Useless legends to make my current deck and so far its been super worth it, and IM gonna buy stuff in this game, Maybe a prebuilt deck because Im lazy like that, OH hey if you're around tomorrow want to play eachother? I have to do the private match quest so I will start that tomorrow
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>>173215761
It's just more interactive than most crafts.It also requires several legos and golds to be even somewhat decent.

Aggro shadow is cheaper, less interactive, and more straight forward. Aggro shadow is a good deck to play until you learn more about the game.
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>>173215910
eidolon and jeannes are vialable, lord of the flies is usable but it's power creeped, you can vial him as well
>>
>>173215910
Jeanne, Flies, Daria
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>>173215910
flies

eidolon is still good for memes and jeanne is cute
>>
>>173215901
wtf is she wearing
>>
>>173215853
Sounds about right
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>>173216000
How does Aggro Shadow look deck-wise? Would I be able to set it up after finishing the tutorial?
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>>173215771
That's his real name, 「Magical big guy」. Hulking giant is miss-translation
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>>173216017
a goth dress

>>173215910
jeanne, eidolon

lotf is questionable
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I went back to Aggrobat Blood after trying LauraOTK/Snek/Control and am winning more consistently. I thought this was control meta. What happened?
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>>173215856
Japs get win steaks with all kinds of dumb shit in Masters. Take a look at some of the lists on gamepress one day.
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>>173216149
poor blood still getting carried by de and rob cards
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>>173216175
>Take a look at some of the lists on gamepress one day
>gamepress
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>>173216149
Did you try meme dealer?
>>
>>173216175
Im more impressed with AA2-3 winstreaks than Masters winstreaks.

Masters is half people trying out fun decks and half people tryharding, its really hard to judge how good your deck is there. But in the upper AA ranks everyone is playing the most refined top tier decks trying their hardest to win every single game, getting a winstreak there means a lot.
>>
>>173216149
people netdeck instead of tech for what's most frequent and don't know their decks enough to know what they should and shouldn't keep or play dynamically.
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>>173215761
Forest is one of the most advanced crafts due to the fact it has card effects reliant on cards being played the same turn as well as hand size. So playing Forestcraft is incredibly reliant on weighing the resources of fairies and cards for both combo effect activations and hand size-dependent effects. The most common control archetype requires getting to turn 9 with 9 cards in hand for an 18 damage from hand combo. All Forest decks also slot in the Roach wincon which is attack=cards played this turn which can sometimes do the full 20 damage depending on what cards you have.

Let's give an example of a simple Roach combo. From empty board:

0 cost Fairy
0 cost Fairy
1 cost Fairy
2 cost Roach with 4 attack
1 cost Nature's Guidance on Roach
2 cost Roach with 6 attack
2 cost Roach with 7 attack, evolve for extra 2 damage.

For 8 PP and evolve, do 19 damage. This is an example of a simple combo where you have 2 zero cost fairies from an Elven Princess Mage and 2 Roaches in hand plus a Guidance.

In terms of difficulty to play, Forest is probably the highest now as a lot of other crafts got cards that just made their mechanics a lot simpler to manage.

Shadow now has so much shadows due to skeletons that necromancies are trivial to the point people can tech in Tyrants and activate their necromancy without trying.
Blood got Blood Moon which alleviates entirely the trouble of playing around vengeance and Aggro Blood has progressed to the point of purely not giving a shit about being close to dead.
Dragon getting Rahab>Sibyl pretty much just gave it a bridge to endgame with a very strong early ward into a simultaneous ramp+heal+body.
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>Sea Queen Otohime, Hulking Giant, Gabriel, White Wolf of Eldwood, Bahamut

Are these good, or should I liquefy them/reroll?
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>>173216149
Souldealer vengeance is the new hot shit.
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>>173216410
wolf and bahamut are good, otohime and giant are... alright, gabriel is free vials
5 is a low number of legends anyway, i'd say reroll
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>>173216352
high aa ends up playing against master players most of the time anyway.
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>>173216410
>Gabriel
mediocre
>Sea Queen Otohime, Hulking Giant
meh
>White Wolf of Eldwood
good
>Bahamut
great
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How am I suppose to try out new decks when ramp dragon and aggro shadow is so strong?
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>>173216397
>Blood got Blood Moon which alleviates entirely the trouble of playing around vengeance and Aggro Blood has progressed to the point of purely not giving a shit about being close to dead.

blood moon turned out to be mediocre (yet) and also this line is a fine example of biased sophistry

so, you blame them for both that they got blood moon to circumvent vengeance and that they use vengeance as intended getting close to death with some suicide decks for a gain

you know it's either-either, the second thing is not something which made "their mechanics a lot simpler to manage", it's vengeance used as it was intended at the very beginning
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Can I get away with a budget Ramp Dragon?
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>>173216657
no
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>Playing story mode for gold/cardbacks/etc
>Dragon fucker drops this when I can't do anything about it, almost as if he knows exactly when I can't defend myself

Dragon AI is fucking cruel in story mode, what the hell.
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>>173216657
LOL
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>>173216680
So I should definitely not craft a second Sib then? I'm in B rank if that matters.
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>>173216657
Define budget.
Storm ramp is cheaper than regular ramp with sahas lucifer and israfils.
You can get away with having Fortes, Sibyls, Ouroboros and Bahamuts but that's still about at least about 10 legendaries.
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>>173216657
For dailies, probably.
For ranked, most likely not.
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>>173216747
I could probably tell you if you showed what you currently have. I assume you're rather new and going down the dragon path will indubitable involve vialing half of your collection. And even then you'd have a suboptimal deck.
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>>173216747
I'm in B rank and trying this one out.
Shit, it's currently bricking hard.
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fuck this stupid fucking mask
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>>173216657
>budget
>Ramp Dragon
choose one.

The least you could get away with is 6 legendaries.
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>>173216865
>>173216785
>>173216935
>>173217035
These are what I currently have in terms of Dragon/Neutrals. No Fortes. I guess I'll play something else if I really need a gorrilion more legs
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>>173216935
>eyfa
>storm dragon
>no urd
Dude.
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>>173217035
There's no way you can get away with just 6 legendaries in any dragon deck besides face dragon.
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>>173215018
Play RoB
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>>173216935
You could probably afford to craft a couple of Lightning Blasts for true removal.

Bricking is just one of the consequences of playing Ramp Dragon. Having the majority of your deck being 4+ cost means bricks.

For more early game, you should probably consider Unicas.

Remember you get free Wyvern Cavaliers with ARGs. Running a couple allows for some shenanigans.
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>>173217072
How many vials do you have? This could work with about 4 more legendaries I'd reckon.
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>>173216948
Yea, mask of black death is getting really fucking obnoxious. Basically heal minimum of 5 or sometimes more.
If an enemy can't clear it in 1 big swing, it gets to block another attack or else it they just pass the turn.
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>>173217072
+2 Bahamut and +2 sibyl for any kind of dragon deck
+1 Ouro +3 forte if you want to go storm ramp or +2 sahas +1 isra if you want to go the more expensive saharamp (may consider that since you got a bunch of the cards)
For golds you need 3x salamander,3x rahab, 3x grimnir. Though rahab you could substitue with dragonwarrior
If you got the vials you could probably do it.
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>>173215696
So is shadow nobody cares, play the fucking game or fuck off.
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Is hulking giant any good or should I melt them
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>>173217080
How many Urds anyway?

>>173217160
I'm just test driving this ramp I created, no wonder I forgot something, I'll add a couple. My earlier ramps had 2-3 blast
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>>173217251
he's big guy
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>>173214710
I'm turned on with Orthus death voice.
Prove that dub is superior
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>>173217274
4 u
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>>173217258
3 or nothing. Go big or go home. Why do you even have Zell? You don't play Saha so where's your combo? Also add 1 more Sybil.
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>>173217190
1k but I'm sitting on some multiples of memes and other extra cards that I can bust for 6-7k total. What were you thinking of?
>>173217228
Already got 3x GURIIIMMNIIRR and 3x Rahab, can make a third Salamander. I'll work on making more things for saha ramp since it seems like I'm closer to that then storm w/ Fortes
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>>173216948
Mask for me is the best shit Blood got this expansion.

As I recall even with 1 timer, it absorbs all damage from one source. I wish it was at least timed 4.
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>>173217096
three bahamuts, lucifer, saha, and forte can form somewhat of a budget deck without losing too many options. You'd have to have enough for the rest of the deck to maintain a somewhat respectable consistency though and shouldn't expect a good win rate but it could work.
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>>173215430
Looks like absolute garbage to me
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>>173214710
her bow wow sounds rather like meow meow

not one of us!
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>>173217240
>shadow is t1 for the first time
>waaah shadow broken
You fuck off.
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>>173217391
Zell is used for Ouro and/or Sybil if I need a cheap burst.
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>>173217616
>shadow is t1 for the first time
>for the first time
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>>173217619
eat shit hag
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>>173217391
Please stop giving people deck advice if you're literally D0.
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>>173217728
i am literally begginer 3 and i give advice to people all the time
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What the fuck is elf queen even
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>>173217905
a female (female (supposedly)) elven ruler
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Hopefully dragon will go back to the good old days of being shit jokes.
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>>173217619
>zell
>cheap burst
So. Instead of baha to face you're using Ouro in storm deck. Makes totally sense.
>>173217728
Uh huh.
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>>173218054
Zell + Ouro burst is only 2 dmg less and way more consistant than a 3 card combo. What's the problem with ouro in storm?
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I need an atomeme deck list
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>>173218131
>What's the problem with ouro in storm?

Nothing.
He's retarded. Don't take him seriously.
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>>173217616
>I don't know wtf I'm talking about: The Post
Notice that I didn't even complain that shadow was T1, I mentioned because it BECAME T1.
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>>173218213
probably some daria/sword shitter that grind there way to the top before the expac hits.
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>craft Tsubakis to deal with ramp dragon
>literally never draw her in 5 games
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>>173218342
I wonder how good those tsubaki + arriet memes are.
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>>173216935
3 Ouroboros is overkill. You only need 2.
Get third Sybil and Forte if you can.
Eyfa is not that good. 7pp for 4/3 storm is too weak
1 more Genesis.
1 more Dragoon Scyther.
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>>173218340
What is this trash?
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>>173218131
Ouro in storm is ok. My point was that evo point as a cheap burst is just wrong.
>>173218213
Hey. He's bricking, not me. But whatever.
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>>173218342
>craft albert,aurelia and gawain to deal with ramp dragon
>doesnt matter because they're 9pp on turn 5
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>>173218559
something that you will never understand
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>>173218578
Most dragon deck run as many >5pp minion as he does. The odds of bricking won't decrease by replacing ouro.
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FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU~
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>>173218485
Ouro wins mirror games. 3 might not be that bad.
I agree with the rest.
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>>173218672
Can you point exactly where did I say to him to get rid of his Ouro?
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>>173218657
>aurelia
>gawain
>good against dragon

??????
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>>173218890
Roland is. Counters zell combo.
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>>173218928
too bad they have bahamut and blasts to clear it.
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>>173218928
>roland
>good against dragon

By the time you dropped land Dragon should have enough PP to drop Baha.
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>>173218342
>hits your face for 11
>tsubaki
>hits your face for 11

LOL
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>"control" forest
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>>173218690
YATTA
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>playing Tarnished grail haven
>matched against Aegis haven
>destroy his Test of strength and have set up lethal
>lol no, here is second Test of strength
Fuck Aegis
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soul conversions in midrange shadow Y/N?
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>>173219068
SHADDUP YOU WHORE LOVING BURGLAR
>>173219095
yeah you need Kaguya man
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>>173219008
>drop Roland
>get blasted
>get baha

Roland seems to be good against elenas,fat frogs and roaches though.
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>>173219106
Yeah, you need draw power or you will run out of steam fast and it's free 2 shadows and reaper buff.
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>>173219106
I personally run 3, but if I needed to drop some cards to fit in something else I would drop it to 2.
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>>173219145
You should come on my adventure.
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>playing against elves in unranked
>they all play fast
>except for their roach turns, then they take fucking forever to play each card in the combo

counting cannot possibly be this hard
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>>173219165
i believe a lot of decks dropped it
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>>173219298
Aggro doesn't need it.
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You know
Baha is a stupid card
Massive tempo play and value play
And you can do him 3 times
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>>173219060
>It's only a "control" deck if it has no wincon whatsoever
Holy hell you people are insufferable sometimes.
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>>173219325
>And you can do him 3 times
l-lewd
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>>173219008
Durandal should honestly just protect everything on your board from spells and effects.
It feels like everyone but sword and forest got some ridiculously over-the-top bullshit this expansion. Deepwood anomaly looks cool, but it'd need something like stealth or immunity to ward to be anything near fucking aegis or ouroboros.
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YOU FAGGOTS SAID BLOOD WILL BE TIER 1

WHAT HAPPENED
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>>173219145
>draw Kaguya
>no more evo points
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>>173219404
Blame the devs, aggro and mid shadow killed it.
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>>173219404
soon

the gloomy japanese genius will invent a deck that fully utilizes mask and blood moon and everybody will tremble before them
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>>173219404
I think Control Blood will be T1 in a couple weeks. There might be some kind of midrange deck with Airjammers and shit, but I doubt it can outperform control.

You need to give people time, Control Blood players have a special form of autism and adding all these new cards in addition to the already bloated Cblood lineup is making progress slow.
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I can vial Fafnir now that Israfil does everything he does but better, right?
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>>173219506
> Control Blood will be T1 in a couple weeks

Delusional. Cblood still doesn't have a wincon.
Still lose to Dshit
Still lose to Ramp Dragon
and Cblood can't do anything about Aegis.
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>>173219506
control blood has no real wincon and can't outgrind dragon or aegis

midrange blood has a chance, aggressive midrange will always has its place too
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>>173219597
>>173219647
>le wincon

Cblood won't be doing anything until the next expansion but you're all just fucking retarded.
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>>173204245
Does the Steam undub work for android phones as well?
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>>173219597
Can even a theoretical Cblood compete with Csword and wolfblood?
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>>173219597
Mask actually gives them a chance against combo decks like Dshift/Bolt, and stupid decks like Aegis. Their wincon is usually a combination of things like Snakes/Bahamut/Satan/Mary.

I think Mask is the single most important card printed for Control Blood to date.
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Forte-sama is mine. MINE.
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>>173219597
>>173219647
>what is azazel + laura
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>>173219680
well control decks win either by playing a strong card like say aegis or they grind out the enemy. cblood doesn't have anything except sneks, bahamut and satan, it used to be able to outgrind a lot of enemies but not anymore when dragon has a better healing
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>>173219774
>meme OTK
>""control""
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>>173219774
Cucked by wards
Cucked by Roland
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>>173219680
What's your point? Control deck without a win con will never be able to compete with control deck WITH a win con. Do you think Cblood had a good match up against Nep or Seraph? The answer is no.
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Holy shit this deck was so spicy.
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>>173219774
>>what is azazel + laura
combo midrange
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>>173219762
FORTE PLEASES OLD DRAGONS FOR RIDING MOUNTS
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>>173219404
Its only a matter of time until Snake will be a Tier 1 deck.
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>>173219879
Is he dumb? He'll have no shadows for tyrant
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>>173219893
for riding rights

she rides them by day, they ride her by night

i think eyfa and aina and even dragonrider arpg do it too
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What is the most fun, not viable, deck to play and why is it discard dragon w/ Wyrm Spire?
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>dead thread
>ramp dragon at 60% win rate
>Ouroboros allowed in T2
>Un'Goro coming out
Is it finally over? I'm ready to apologize to Brode if you are.
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>>173219404
kek, just became master thanks to guy playing snek
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>>173219893
>>173219984
DELET THIS
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>>173220049
>>Ouroboros allowed in T2
Fuck this shit so much
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>>173220049
this art style reminds me
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>>173220049
Hearthstone will never regain its lost players with its current expansion model pushing away anyone that isnt willing to spend half their yearly income to keep up.
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need a concede pls
59121
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>>173219762
>mine. MINE
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>>173219984
>That Vampy
Man I hate Vampy and Vampy posters but I can only be so hateful.

>>173220104
I wish I liked playing Renekton at all. Or League really, I like that skin.
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Would cards like gravewaker or soul eater be useable in this skellington meta?
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>>173220327
>I wish I liked playing Renekton at all. Or League really, I like that skin.
i feel same, they did their 1st april right

i hoped shadowverse would get something too...
>>
81559

Need a concede please
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>>173220096
>Playing against a dragon craft with Ouroboros as haven in T2 in my 5th match
>Won all my previous matches
>We're just removing threats while he constantly chucks Ouroboros whenever he can.
>Ouroboros is kicking my shit It's chewed through all my ward creatures except my last Guardian Fox we're both out of evolves.
>MFW I top deck Judge of Retribution and he just set his Ouro to 1 on my fox.
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>>173220372
Thank you!
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>cursed soldier holding the scythe upside down
FUCKING NIPS
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>>173220364
They are prowercreeped by catacomb, zombie party and death breath.
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if I drop to 2 wolf how much will it lower my chance of having one of my win cards in hand by turn 8?
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Are there any decks that use Elf Queen/Crystalia Aerin and don't suck
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So is anyone gonna make a urias version
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I'd pay more to join TT games where I can win non standard packs
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>>173220575
wolfbolt

>>173220563
most of lists run 2
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>>173220364
No space. Gravewaker competes with Goblin Princess, Cerberus, and Windgod for deck space. Soul Eater just sucks. A better candidate for obscure card finding use in current decks is Apprentice Necromancer.

>>173220545
>Death's Breath
It's not "power creep" if they came out in the same set genius.
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>>173220582
I-it's still playable in unranked with the rest of the forest, sword, and runebabs!
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>>173219068
>>173218690
Post your shadow decks, they seem fun
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haha! time for dailies
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Found this deck from twitter. Tier 1 material?
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>>173220818
Sure.
1vol
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>>173220856
Niiiiiiiiice
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>try and play anything besides aggro
>lose

i fucking love this meta
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38356

Need a concede please
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>>173220891
Funny, I lose whenever I try to play aggro in this meta.
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>>173220857
>1vol
In case anyone else wanted a look at his deck.
I'm missing 1 thane and 2 soulsquasher
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>>173220856
that looks like someones take 2 pile
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>>173220856
needs reno jackson
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>>173219463
>Shadow killed it
>Shadow is the only craft with sticky followers in a game with so much board clear its ridiculous

nah

the devs themselves killed any non-shadow aggro decks
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>>173203084
Lecia only protects the officers that were on the field when she came in, she's not an ongoing effect like sexton.

If you look carefully you'll see that the protected officers have a bubble around them, while the ones that come in later do not.
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>>173221002

Thanks erika-san.
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>>173219145
>1 Olivia
REEEEEEEE
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>>173220856

>there actually exist someone who run spring cleaning
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>>173221015
Nice animated thane. You can switch 1 orthrus for 1 eachtar. I just wanted to have earlier pressure and kill wards. But not drawing eachtar until turn 7 is sad. I became masters btw. Albertcraft stopped winstreak and i won last trial match with walletcraft.
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Remember when people thought Ouroboros was shit and Dragon is kill? Good times.
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>>173221181
>he doesn't run spring cleaning
Enjoy bricking.
>>
>Minthe
>Tia
>Pascale
>Otohime
>Roland
>Anomaly
>Alexander
>Bahamut

Is this good enough?
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>>173221015

>2 drop being reaper and 1 squasher

So,you play those on curve ? a 1/1 ambush that is killed by enemy next turn ? Really ?
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>>173221194
>>173221015
Oh, and animated lolisquisher too. I am so jealous.
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>>173221276
yes
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>>173221276
Only 2 of those are good.
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>>173221273

>what is running out of steam midgame
>implying you can kill anyone with just shitty 1-of everything
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>>173221232
Turns out when you have 60 life anything is viable.
>>
Do you think Lunaplayers are self aware enough to realize how much of a cancer they are?
>>
>>173221232
Remember when you left this general and only came back for ToG? Good times.
Then you see people spouting these kinds of bullshit like it has been inhabited by retarded monkeys.
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>>173221232

The shitstorm only happen because the initial reveal misplace the text into "evolve effect only".

And even as it is right now its only real value come from getting combo with zell. Other than that literally any lategame deck can just answer it with odin.
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>>173221464
>Its shadows fault that its the only craft with sticky followers to fight against all the fucking removal
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>>173221279
There are actually 3 lolisquishers, 3 skull beasts, 2 corpses. Reaper is not my wincon anyway. I usually use him only when i have zombie or catacomb on board.
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>>173221464
>Runefags are cancer!
>No now swordfags are cnacer!
>Now its the lunafags! REEEEEEEE

I think people like you are the most cancerous.
>>
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>>173221520
>sticky followers
not if you fight Honestcraft
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GET FUCKING REKT YOU CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT
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>>173221536
>conveniently forgetting the shadowfags "WAAAH haven is cancer" of DE
nice try, lunpedo
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>>173221523
If i go first and opponent is aggro, i play skull beast/skip > lolisquisher/corpse > zombie party on enemy 2drop and trade my 2drop with 1drop. I have won so many times like this against aggro shadow just clearing his board and not letting my hp drop to 11.
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FREE PACKS WHEN?

NEW STORY CHAPTERS, 9M DOWNLOADS EVENT, SFV COLLAB, APOLOGY PACKS, ANYTHING
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as far as I learned, short games do equal less deep games. Short games cut the amount of mana costs that cards can be designed for in half, if not more and increase the draw rng factor that is usually mitigated by extra turns.

To compensate, devs have to make higher cost cards stronger and stronger to keep them viable, until we arrive to Aegis, or Lightning blast, or SahaBahaZell, or Seraph, or Dim Shift, or Purg, or Albert, or Roach, or Grimnir, or many others. And the tempo swing from those cards, most of which don't even require other cards to reach their potential, breaks the gameflow so hard it might as well paint Emergency Stop on it. Add frustration from powerful cards needing immediate answers, that is also worsened by lack of natural draw and I think that's where a lot of complaint go from.
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>>173219708
no
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>>173221656
>more ramp bandwagoners

No. Cygames just please continue being a jew.
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>>173221656
>NEW STORY CHAPTERS
SOON, anons are sure chapters 12-14 will be here soon for Luna, Erika and Arisa
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Need help for the private match daily.
39192
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need a concede

66695
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>>173221690
Aegis would be fine if it didnt ignore test of strength
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>>173221654

How do you deal with skelly flood/burn from cerb,rabbit,dod,demonic then ? It's not easy keeping your hp up when shadow lacks heal/clear.
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Do you really need soul conversion for midrange shadow when your deck is filled to the brim with value cards? I'm thinking about those skull beasts.
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>>173221817
>>173221820

Now kiss.
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>>173221464
I'm a Shadow player since DE, I stuck with the craft even after all you retards screaming it dead at the end of RoB, and crafted 3 Eachtars as soon as ToG hit after not getting him from packs. So shut the fuck up.
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>>173221276
Re roll
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>>173222083
shadow did fine in rob
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>>173221907
midrange decks want to curve out and win by T8. Which should be around the point where you run out of steam, at that point is where card draw is valuable and your deck loses most of it's punch, if you can't close the game by them the more controlling decks will just win, droppings, after wards and win cons.
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need a concede

93734
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>>173221639
>haven
>not cancer
I thought this was admitted by everybody
The only thing haven is good for is old hag hatefaps
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>>173222215
Haven is chemo
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>>173222215
Haven is chemo that will cure this world and liberate everyone
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I love Luna.
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>>173221893
I trade as carefully as i can to keep my presence on board. I even suicide my 2/2 reaper sometimes to keep the board clean and try to survive until death breath. DoD is the best situation, 5pp to kill 1 my follower? He lost his momentum then and gets punished.
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>>173222263
Ok mom
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>>173221339
>>173221306
>>173222126
Well okay then. Can I at least know what the good cards are in Tempest of the Gods? I've been following this guide but it doesn't seem to have info on the new expansion.
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>>173222215
>haiting on chemocraft
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>>173222263
Kill yourself cancer
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>>173222308
t.mordicuck user
>>
midrange shadow is the most bullshit thing in existence
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>>173222185
Everyone in the thread was parroting that Shadow would return to DE level of shittyness after the Lightning Blast reveal. But it turned out it's actually Rune that got shafted this time.
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>>173222275
Lolisquisher is a god of trading. Her necromancy effect is gamechanger. Tha's why i put 3 of her.
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>>173222303
Crap, forgot the link
https://svspot.com/2017/01/25/legendary-tier-list-with-liquefy-and-rerolling-guide/
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>>173222083
>crafted 3 eachtars

I only crafted two because I'm still going to open packs until I get his emblem.

>>173222185
Nep got so much hate on this expansion though. And aggro shadow was only decent at best.
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>Try using Tarnished grail
>notice there is no Odins
Maybe it's better to just go back to Seraph?
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>>173222415
nep was hit hard
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>>173222447
For sure.
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>>173222447
lightning blast

btw you can pop grail on the same your turn with dogma and candelabra

not like it's feasible though
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>>173222415
.>>173222083
>shadow delusionals
shadow is in the same situation of blood at the start of RoB in less than 6 days they will be shit tier worse than rune
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>>173222241
>>173222256
>>173222307
>chemo
it's not like it's been a fucking nightmare of elana and seraph for 2 fucking expansions
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>>173222241
>>173222256
>>173222307
The only thing that Haven should chemo is itself, I would rather watch paint dry than play this boring ass shit. Garudacraft is alright tho.
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>>173222567
>this is what retards honestly believe
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>>173222592
>>173222572
>all the hatred against the chemocraft
stop playing with fotm crafts
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Please help me make a dragon deck with this, not in the picture: 1x Imperial Dragoon, 3x Fafnir, 3x Genesis Dragon.

I'm ok with crafting a couple golds but I don't want to craft more legends for dragon.
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>>173222670
>conveniently forgetting Haven has been fotm for 2 expansions
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need a concede

80637
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>>173222670
t. faggot who played elanacancer in de
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>>173222727
thanks
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>>173222592
>>173222572
>but in the past!
Haven is the only good, chemo, honestcraft this xpac, so apologize to Eris
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>>173221536
This, PvP games are a revolving door of unhappiness and dissatisfaction. It does not matter who is the top dog of any given meta, people will complain about it, and when they're replaced by something else the cycle continues. Next expac Blood will be cancer. Screencap this.
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>>173222718
>fotm

Barely anyone plays Haven. 90% of the playerbase are just aggrobabs.
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NOT MY LEADER
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>>173222784
Haven should be fucking deleted that's what.
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>>173222714
Just make a face dragon.

what are your neutrals?
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>watching failgun
>two enemies in a row surrender vs dshift on t7-8 vs a hand that bricked

what a joke
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>>173222758
>elana
>cancer in de
literally the worst of all haven decks in DE, only played in B rank.
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>>173222796
Did you play last season?
Did you play during DE?
If so you'd understand I won't even bother responding seriously and just post a smug animefuck
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>>173222846
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>>173222303
Personally, I kept my legends and didn't reroll. Wasn't even a good roll but I managed OK
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>>173222904
Nice revisionism, Elana was fucking cancer and infested half the ladders all the way up to Masters.
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does anyone else rope fagets playing cancerous decks?
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will dark offering work on aegis?
8-10 heal is pretty nice
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>>173222925
>>173222714
it's easy now.
Add the ramp cards like oracle,sibyl,fervor and Aiela(urd too to combo with aiela and Forte)
Add the removal Breath of salamander and the 3pp storm bane
Add grimmnir
Add Israfil
Olivia is a nice card
Add bahamut.
Zell to give storm to OP shit
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>>173222805
Garuda is outdated
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>>173222965
lel Elana was only played in B and C rank so all the shitters complained.

the real good decks of Haven in DE were Elana/Seraph and Storm Haven
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>>173223120
>>173223120
>>173223120
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>>173223138
What the fuck is your problem?
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>>173223138

Still early unga please.
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>>173206442
>>173206442
>>173206442
real new thread
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need a concede for rupees
95417
message let's battle again if you also need one
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>>173223768
thanks luna chan
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Twice today I've encountered obvious netdeckers playing Aegis who clearly aren't Haven players. They slap down Aegis even when they are going to die the next turn if they do it. Amazing.
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>>173219106
Yeah 3 is a must.
Always remember to attack first!
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>>173224063
Soon enough they'll learn. Only played Garuda Storm and a personal Guardian Sun Jeanne Control from Standard.Getting my head round it will take a few games
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