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/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>some unimportant faggot does a thing
>falling for obvious bait
>jannies btfo'ing /bgg/ (for free)

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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First for fuck attack animations
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>>173159080
Attack animations are good
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you faggots better unban me before i poop my pants!!
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report this thread, >>173158148 was first
sage goes in all fields
>>173158148 was first

delete this thread or ill make you turn dead
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FIX THE SERVER REEEEEEE
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>10 fps
>300 ping
>sprites are fucking blinking and dissapearing randomly
>literally unplayable
>10 online on highpops
is game officially kill?
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>>173159319
Go bitch at lumox to fix byond, its been confirmed to be a byond thing and not a code one.
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We don't have enough players to maintain /ss13g/ therefore we should merge with other small games to make a sizeable general.

I vote for /bgg/ - byond games general
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>lummox just hinted at making $5 monthly byond memberships mandatory
it's over...
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nst for mrpain sucks elephant dick
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>>173159658
link it

or actually don't link it i don't want to believe
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>>173159658
When is lummox going to fix this shit
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>>173159670
Maybe he's dragging it with his toes
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>>173159670
>>173159836
I like how Lifeweb has you walk backwards when pulling something. It's a nice touch.
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>>173159319
If 10 is highpop, what is the 40 online now?

Megahyperultrahighoverdrive pop?
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>pomf's patreon gets another person donating money
>person mysteriously disappears off the ban page
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>>173159658
All we need to be free of Lummox
is for one brave soul to risk an actual legal theft charge by putting a virus into a BYOND test case and getting Lummox to open it, then using that entry point to steal the BYOND source off his computer.

Be the hero we need, free BYOND from Lummox's grasp.
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>it's a faggot shills the thread with his shitty byond russian erp simulator

please go away, go to reddit, nobody wants to donate money to some russian who has to code pussy into a game to get any
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>>173159953
we don't even need byond nor lummox at this point, we have our code base, the backend and our own server, we don't even use their master server.

we could very easily implement our own user account authentication and be free of byond faggotry
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>>173161163
>one mention of lifeweb is shilling

To be honest Randy puts in a lot of effort and pretty much solo runs his server, he's coding for it constantly and he deserves the money way more than any ss13 host.

He's smart for taking free money from autists for a big dick or whatever. That's capitalism
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>>173161351
We still compile on BYOND, we'll still need its source eventually if we are to try and improve it beyond the pile of garbage that it is.
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>>173161163
Large chicken
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I don't like attack animations, because honestly they look super fucking shitty and add so much more visual noise than necessary, but is there something besides that that I'm missing here? Is it casualization that's also a big problem here?
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LUMMOX FIX THIS
PLS RESPOND
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>>173161824
They can be toggled off but default to on and your settings reset each round
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quick, /vg/ is dead and pomf killed it.

what server do we migrate to
1) colonial marines
2) bay
3) have one of our admins host a new /vg/ server
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>>173161565
>>173161837
Lummox is like the Notch of Byond, sits back and collects money, hardly does shit beyond the obscure forum post/maybe fixes something once in a blue moon

If you want that faggot to release the source, you need some leverage. Or offer a large one sum donation in turn for it.

They make what? like 200$ a month off it from donations?
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>>173161892
I think them defaulting to on was fixed
But the resetting still happens
This is why everyone is scared of touching client prefs
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>>173161824
Yes, casualization is a big issue. People dont seem to understand that ss13 gets so much content and autistic detail to its mechanics due to the way its presented, in a minimalistic way that attracts the autistic coders to add more and more to this shanty town of shitcode, you start slowly making it so new standards in apearence are elevated and reduce its autistic nature and you kill it. Dwarf fortress would not survive if you made it look much better, it would stop being dwarf fortress and it would become much harder to develop to, alongside its voluntary developers either leaving due to the playerbase changing or them just not liking how things are going
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I wonder what job the /ss13g/ janny likes playing. Do you think he likes to play janitor in the game too?
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>>173162368
No, janitors on ss13 get paid. He plays cyborg janitor
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>>173162003
fulpstation
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reminder that lifeweb is a superior game
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>>173162505
Kolith, you haven't played for months, lifeweb isn't even ss13
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>>173162368
there isn't a janitor for a single general. janitors work across multiple boards. Why would you think a single person would moderate one of the slowest generals on /vg/?
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>>173162182
http://www.byond.com/fundraising

Already made 400$ for this month, there's people on there that have donated 10,000$.

Don't be fooled that they aren't making money.
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>>173162618
Because I've seen him delete posts within seconds on multiple occasions in these threads. It's you, isn't it?
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Post the best song from Carmen Miranda's Ghost

hardmode: No Jayme Dawson's Christian or Sam Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgZWyntHj0c
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>>173162748
oy vey
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>>173162765
I like Some Kind of Hero.
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>>173162748
What does byond need funding for? Hosts pay for the servers.
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>>173163115
Apparently they have 'full time developers'(lol) and cite web hosting costs!

I've personally ran a very popular game server and website and bandwidth wasn't even a concern.

It's just a jewish trick to get money.
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>>173163115
Delete this and pay lummox or else
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>>173163115
It's literally just money for Lummox.
He's the only staff member, the only coder, for BYOND.
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You who were the greatest server on Byond three years ago, and still can be! Why do I say, "you still can be"? Because, my friends, I know you, I know the Autistic people! I know that twice in my lifetime in the Goon Raids I griffed in, in the Vore Raids the younger autists griffed in. We the Autists have put our effort, our energy of valor, of heroism, unequalled in the history of Spess.
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>>173163406
Greatest server three years ago, what the fuck are you smoking?
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>>173162240
Oh, I see. It's adding more work for people who want to develop the game to do for something that doesn't add to the game's depth and only exists to make the game easier?
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>>173162240
>Dwarf fortress would not survive if you made it look much better
Rimworld.
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If you had to pick one player who quit to be the new host of /vg/ who would it be?
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>>173163954
>comparing Rimworld to DF

Not that guy but DF has so much depth that I believe it'd be impossible to properly make graphics for everything and it'd probably slow the development to a standstill while Toady spends weeks spriting some shitty barrel.
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>>173163808
t. never played /vg/ 3 years ago
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>>173164156
Yclat.

>only good code allowed
>medium rp enforced
>no discord
It makes me sad knowing it's no reality
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>>173164156
kingston
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>>173159434
lag was so bad on vg i went to tg and its actually better there than here.
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give me space screencaps and i'll try to draw em
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>coders claim the problem is byond's fault
>every other server and game runs fine
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>>173164404
not exactly spess but I thought it'd be perfect for ss13 art
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>>173164404
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>>173164404
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>>173163829
Exactly, its a casual addition for people who cant play the game right to begin with and delays/hampers further development by either workload associated by it or game population shifts, a extremely bad adition in that regard but fuck it, its in and it isn't going to be reverted.
>>173163954
Nowhere near good enough compared to dwarf, single z level, flawed raid system accounting which escalates to unbearable levels once you get your town in any decent shape, makes you rely on rng in character creation/raids so you don't kill the good ones and so you dont spend a hour getting colonists that can actually make a colony grow, combat is alright but generally its a much, much watered down dorf, at best anon. The lack of graphics makes developing dwarf a breeze and allows for stupid levels of autism when compared to developing rimworld.
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>>173164404
Draw Mr "Christopher Smittyman" Pain12 blocking the entrances to a horde of rapefugees
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>>173164520
I'm screaming inside
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By the end I had a fully equipped security belt, a diamond drill, and a stolen esword, and I never got to use any of it.
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>spend an hour on xenoarch preparations, hardly see the miners for the first succ
>as soon as I go on station to cause chaos the shuttle is practically there and I only get to meme one dude with ied bear traps

Suppose it makes up for the last time I memed the shuttle with a large artifact.
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>>173164404
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This made me giggle like a maniac and I'm not sure why
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How do you pronounce gib anyway?
Ghib or Jib?
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>>173164832
>spend an hour on xenoarch preparations, hardly see the miners for the first succ

One of the miners went loud with an esword before getting arrested by BEEPSKY and killed
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>>173164795
Was the greentext worth not using your fancy shit to torture people?
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>>173164596
that's a lot of words for a grand total of 0 arguments
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>>173164934
I'll vocaroo it for you, how can I contact you?
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>>173164404
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>>173164954
We had three miners, I had even fully made preparations for silent takedowns and succs, but alas they must have been killed by the rogue one.
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>>173164934
>Gib

like Gib me dats
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>>173164404
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>>173164934
Jib, because gib is short for giblets.
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hm... to code and be productive or go play and continue shitposting
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>>173165079
ghib me dats
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so why don't the coders just revert their changes to before the server started dying? if the server stays shit then we know its byond's fault. and if the server is fixed then the server is fixed
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>>173165105
>want to code something
>it's hardcoded
>would have to recode everything to make what I want
>give up
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>>173164984
I never got the opportunity. By the time I had acquired all my gear, the round had ended. Science was slow on the diamond drills because no one did research at first. In addition, I was also made a security officer by the HOP, and by the time I had everything, the round was over.
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I've never coded in my life, I hate all coders and using github to downvote reddit pull requests makes me angry and suicidal.

Where do i begin because I want to code and insert my shitty fetishes into the server
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>>173162003
/tg/ duh
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>>173164871
I saw that shard on my cam and was wondering what the fuck was it doing there
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>>173165419
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/python-book-bundle
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>>173165102
So it IS gib
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>>173165485
>python

byond is nearer to C

>>173165419
clone the code to your desktop, grab an IDE like notepad++, and make something simple. Ask on Discord in #howdoicode for simple requests.

What really activates my almonds is that byond takes forever to compile than I have to load a local server which also takes forever than load into the server and wait for everything to boot which also takes forever

If I was getting paid to do this, than see image but since I'm not I can't be arsed to do anything
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damn, how does a man choose
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>>173165673
There's a reason assistant is at the top
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>>173165485
I'd actually argue that learning anything BUT dreammaker first is detrimental to programming for ss13 because you learn to use a logical language following sensible syntax and then you realise none of it matters here
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>>173165673
A slave obeys, so pick something where you have no responsabilities and dont have to answer to anyone.

Real men are assistants or all access assistants.
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>>173165485
>python bundle
for what fucking reason
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>>173165650
literally just change your map to test_tiny and turn off vaults to get instant loading
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>>173165843
... why is this some arcane knowledge that I must bitch to obtain?
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>>173165761
this.
HoP is the biggest slave there is.
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>>173165752
>nd then you realise none of it matters here
this
I only read some of the documentation and part of the coding guide and am infuriated
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>>173164795
I was the clown.
I literally dragged the CE's locker through the hallways and assured people that I was simply playing a prank on Engineering. Somehow, everyone who saw me either forgot about it or ended up dead.
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>>173166202
why didn't you just emag it open
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What area needs a redesign?
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>>173166304
possibility 1: he needed to drag it to a secure place so that he could emag it
possibility 2: HONK :0)
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>>173166304
Partly because I am retarded, and partly because I thought it would be funny. It worked out in the end, so whatever.
>>173166415
is mostly correct.
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>>173166371
Box perma? Deffs maint? Metas dorms?
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>>173166508
>Box perma
What about it?
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>>173166371
The mining asteroid on box station. Right now there's an asteroid island section which is extremely mineral rich, and always spawns diamonds with a 0% chance to be gibonite. (The other maps have similar problems with ore distribution.) It's always the first place I rush off to as a miner on box because of how imbalanced it is.
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>>173166537
Its lifeless, deffs perma has some nice touches to it and metas is nice too, but box just seems bland. Put a punching bag in it, a exercise machine too, something else so it isnt just a boring botany rush to escape.
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>>173166371
On box, the atmos/engineering connector hallway is cancerous and tiny. Constant people walling themselves in and other non-sense.

Expend it so it's two tiles walkable and remove some of the unused lobby space(engineering has two lobbies for some reason and neither are public use like other maps)

Please
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>>173164404
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>>173166537
About half of the time you perma a prisoner, they break the windows and kill themselves by spacing themselves/electric shock
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>>173166843
That part is a feature though
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>>173158992
>this image
gets me ery tim
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Deus Vault whence?
Space biker vault wonce?
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>>173166371
Deff brig is much comfier and well equipped for prisoners then it is for officers
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>>173167001
It sucks, though. Since perma is insecure in various ways, (due to the botany area, the prisoners can produce unlimited soap to slip you with if you ever want to perma another person with them) the end result is that sec is even more borg/execute happy and for good reason.
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>>173166371
There needs to be a bar of soap somehwere in box maint, the holodeck redesign got rid of the old one that was in the ghetto theater.
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>>173164404
not a screencap, but needs to be immortalized
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>>173167201
you can also break the glass and grab the spray bottle on the table from executions, fill it with the sink and slip
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>>173167196
I love deff brig for advanced medical kit.
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>>173167246
Soap is the GOOD cleaning product though
If you want to get ghetto clean, slice up a bedsheet into rags
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>>173167386
Def brig also has its own hardsuit room which is way better than 2 hardsuits in EVA and 3 in the armory
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vP2hFFV57E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CamAhPeYoC8


I learned so much about shitpoosting this and last year
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>>173167450
it's for slips and nobody but me would ever take the bar before it was a casualty of the actual good holodeck anyways
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>>173167349
I'm gonna have to admit that I don't get it
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>>173167660
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/13786
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>>173167246
>>173167450
>>173167609
It was a banana peel, my bad. Still needs to have a slip object somewhere in maint, though.
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>>173167482
yeah, it has jetpacks and shit
also wardens office looks cute
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>>173167609
rags are better weapons for a bar than soap is. fuck slips. I'm gonna throw molotovs
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>>173164404
space jesus came to us when his order was formed, deus vult.
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>>173167660
kilozombie is a brave gay birdo fighting to save no-fruit from nerfs against the entire ivory tower
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>>173167861
Reminder that directly thrown molotovs do nothing but toxins damage since you technically inject people with their contents and too much welder fuel does toxins. Always throw near people and then get the fuck out before the room melts and co2 goes up the wall.
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>>173167349
hello kilo
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>>173168040
>>173168040
>directly thrown molotovs do nothing but toxins damage
what actual retard coded that
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>>173167660
>he missed the lamest server drama of 2017
you are lucky
I wish I didn't get the reference
the fact that I do, is a testament to how much of my youth I've wasted with this shitty community
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>>173167861
>actually making molotovs instead of making even more ghetto molotovs
all you need is a a discount dan's machine, a cup, some welder fuel, and a syringe for like 5 of them
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>We can't let the cult win
>CALL THE SHUTTLE
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>>173168040
Does that mean you could have chloral moolotovs?

How much does it inject?
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>>173168159
I tried to improve them and shit but I gave up, the retard who coded them named himself in the drinks file, molotovs are just fancy bottles full of liquid splashing upon impact and triggering a ignition, nitroglycerin and so on don't work at all due to them not having any floor splash code, only welder fuel does. Its a fucking abomination of oldcode.
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it's cult
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>>173168373
How many floor tiles does it cover? Could you make water molotovs?
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>>173168430
CALL
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FUN ROUND
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>>173168362
HoS only called because there were only two guys left after the detective died and juggs were smashing up the station.

But then they destroyed it and rooted out every single cultist...

Well, look at it like this, at least we dont have to play on meta now!
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>>173168362
Was there a chaplain
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>reporter interviewing assistants in the ghetto bar
https://youtu.be/Omtfe7lb-gE
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I wish the brig was consistent in features throughout the 3 maps

Box: extra consoles, lots of space, 2 sec vends, really useful processing room
However shit brigbay and perma, no EVA

Deff: nice ass cells and perma, own EVA room and has tea machine
Only 1 sec vend, no one knows where interrogation is, no spare cuffs or flashbangs outside armoury

Meta: Bandoliers in lockers, free extra beepsky, decent brigbay and EVA room
No firing range
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>>173168168
I didn't miss it
I just didn't recognize that's what the image was referring to
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>>173168373
>>173168282
YUCK fuck it i'll just still to my /tg/ IEDs
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>>173168069
not kilo
i'm the MS paint prodigy who originally posted it in one of the many github threads during that autistic kerfuffle
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>>173168628
Cute lamb.
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>>173168369
Yes, they do work
>>173168456
same as a normal bottle filled with anything, and no, water, for some reason, only works on the tile its impacted, it doesn't spread like welder fuel does.
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WHERE DO I CONTACT LUMMOX?
REEEEEEE
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There is nothing better than Knight Orders from cargo, I even joined one while playing vamp, great round.
Then Reica subverted AI and borgs killed everyone.
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>>173164591
sorry, had to do something, shit will start poopin'
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>>173170301
good shit hombre
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>>173170301
That Goliath looks like shit
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>>173169434
Just like in my animes
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>>173169106
BYOND forums.
He'll usually respond a time or two if you give him a few days.
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who the gronk is lummox??
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>>173170579
But animes don't end every episode with dumb bitch killing everyone
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>>173170301
Mostly good but the goliath middle eye looks like a clown nose
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>>173171195
Robots fighting knights, though

Maybe get good
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Is the game choppy for anyone else too?
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>>173171312
yes
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>>173164614
so that's how pain looks like?
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>>173171312
Yes. I couldn't fireball the fucking turbo-bloodhound borg for the life of me because of how shitty it was
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>>173171121
>no yellow glubs on the assistant
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>>173169434
>Not being so robust so you turn the AI against the person who subverted it
Reminder that tech storage has an AI upload circuit and a reset module.
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>>173171430
>reset
>remove hacked upload board laws
lel
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>>173171414
he doesn't have hands anon
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>>173164842
so... regular genetics?
use green pills next time
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>>173171485
He has a toolbox, assistants never use toolboxes, they use toolbelts, yellow glubs and plastic bags.
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>>173171578
The assistant was building his hidden chem den while being watched the entire time.
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>>173171662
Traitor greyshirts use toolboxes, why waste tc for a esword when good old robusters are everywhere
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>byond is being flagged as ransomware
HELP
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>>173172353
rip you
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>>173172353
whitelist it you complete ignoramus
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>round duration 10 minutes
>no available assistant spots
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>>173172493
but what if his byond isnt REAL byond?
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>>173172537
ICK OCK
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>forget plasma catalyst in the cryo beaker because borg nohands is spamming chat rushing me to do his job
>get ahelped instead of having it pointed out
kek
now I know which shitter to avoid having as a coworker
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If you juice a single banana you get 5 banana juice
If you grind a single banana you get 1 banana juice


I am going to change grinding to 3 nutrient and 2 potassium, do you have any issue with this?
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>>173172632
try and get me faggot
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>>173172643
>get ahelped
What is this shit?
Plasma isn't even deadly in the mix because cryo+clonex removes toxins and let's not even mention the eternal dylovene in the mix.
How the fuck are 5 units of plasma mixed in by accident admin intervetion worthy? This reminds me of the time I got cloned as a traitor mime, talked to another traitor who was hidden but because he had a bounced radio on the AI heard and ahelped just for an admin to gib me for it.
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>>173172863
This is a bad feature
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>>173172863
but what does it dooooooooo
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>>173173010
badfeel
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>>173173010
>>173172987
Was just posting it so someone in the discord could see it in action.

It's a new trigger for artifacts where you need to pay one of three types of dosh to activate it.

Like this weeping angel trigger it got added in recently.

The spooky messages are from the effect, which is badfeeling.
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>>173172663
None here
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>>173173278
Why are you people adding shit to the job that is already filled with random chance with a 1/100000 of dropping

do you think this will make the game any more fun for anyone 99.9999% of the time
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>>173173278
Why the fuck would it need money
what's the game logic behind this?
what's the balance logic behind this when large and useful artifacts that are easily activated are already exceedingly rare? when money is worthless yet coders didn't even allow a traitor telecrystal option for cash for gimmicks?
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>>173172863
Kill yourself.
You could do something interesting like a god of greed idol, but a fucking vending machine?
>>
slime girl ss13 quest soon
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Kek you guys sure are upset.
Those triggers were actually submitted by the thread.

>>173173384
>Why are you people adding shit to the job that is already filled with random chance with a 1/100000 of dropping

Because most of us actually play and enjoy xenoarch, and want to improve it in the areas it is lacking. We had a large shortage of triggers and I recently moved all the system code from being a hardcoded abomination to a datumised abomination, so I wanted to give it a test drive.

>do you think this will make the game any more fun for anyone 99.9999% of the time

No idea, that's why we have the github for feedback, the triggers I made were pretty easy to activate and don't add that much tedium compared to others imo, pay2use might need some tweaking but I need some ingame tests for that.

>>173173464
>what's the game logic behind this?
The same reason/logic sprinkling some water on an artifact, or emagging it is a trigger, it's just a meme game that needs content stop overthinking it.

>>173173636
You're free to code something like that yourself, I was just adding content in a place that was lacking.
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>>173174298
Thanks for adding more to xenoarch.

That said, you're wasting precious calories typing out (You)'s to people who most likely just greytide 24/7.
>>
Which setting do I need to toggle to stop this awful music?
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Would you support bringing back prison station?
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>>173175154
we should add every map we can and remove weighted random
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>>173175154
Donut v3 is supposed to have one.
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>>173175154
I've never played it, but I like the premise, so yes
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>>173175154
Yes. I like the idea of perma being escapable but I like the notion of it actually being used a little better.
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>>173165062
it took me more time than expected to do it but it was pretty fun
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>>173164404
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>>173165062
>>173176367
Oh hey! I remember that! My buddy put a gremlin at the comms console and drank so much he passed out. I had to drag him to the arrivals pod
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>>173176367
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>>173176367
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>>173164404
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>>173164404
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>>173177576
what was he trying to accomplish?
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>>173177654
do a cargo borer farm. He was new to the game so this happend like 3 times before he got it right
>>
How do you put items like chameleon projectors into backpacks?
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>>173177757
kill the boer!
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>>173178424
By turning yourself into security
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>>173178424
I think you right click it and turn scanning off
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hey, haven't played in a couple years so i downloaded byond again and made a new account, but i keep getting "connection died" when i join a server. anyone know why or how i can fix it?
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>>173174298
can you add more effects instead of triggers? its hard to get a useful artifact those days
>>
dear avada

OK I ADMIT IT I LOVE YOU OK i fucking love you and it breaks my heart when i see you play with someone else or anyone commenting in your profile i just want to be your boyfriend and put a heart in my profile linking to your profile and have a walltext of you commenting cute things i want to play video games talk in discord all night andw atch a movie together but you just seem so uninsterested in me it fucking kills me and i cant take it anymore i want to remove you but i care too much about you so please i'm begging you to eaither love me back or remove me and never contact me again it hurts so much to say this because i need you by my side but if you dont love me then i want you to leave because seeing your icon in my friendlist would kill me everyday of my pathetic life.
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>>173179209
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I'm banning Avada. Speak now if you have any objections
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>>173179209
You do know Avada is a guy, right?
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>>173179761
it doesnt matter to me
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>>173164274
Im honored but I both cant code and I, on ocasion, go to the discord, lots of faggotry and faggots there but its effectively a much easier way to communicate and give feedback on ideas/prs.
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>>173179209
Watch out kid, Avada is MY wife... you don't want to get hurt...
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>when you play the game to goof around and don't give a fuck about the autistic baystation shit
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>>173180020
>>173179898
>>173179209
Avada is still Emilia's and nobody else's
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>>173179995
Don't get a big head, it was a just a meme.
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>>173180171
Responding seriously to joke posts is a habit of mine, its fun.
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>>173164404
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>>173180079
>not just shitposting in the thread to create drama and not actually playing the game

do you even [insert player I dislike here]?
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>>173180364
Those generators should be recessed in the wall so the contestants can't turn them off
one recessed at the top, one at the left, always turned on, then you can just toggle the connecting one to engage or disengage the field
fucks sakes there's a mommi there and all it needs is some windows and grilles removed god
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>>173166834
fuck it i've got bored
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>>173172663
do it
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>>173167349
I still feel bad about the way I handled the whole thing. N3X deserves no bully
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need to know what this june 2d10 directx 5kd is is and how to download it
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>>173181389
We are not accepting new players, sorry.
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>>173180870
Ive tested them, they have a lot of shit that needs fixing and they arent even a real race, they are a mutation at best, one that barely gets any damage from being in a scorching hot room but die in less than a minute if you spray a room with a foam extinguisher and it reaches below negative 10 celcius, they get mostly minor tox damage if you spray with water, nothing major. They dont have any interesting gimmicks anon, at most youd get a bunch of exploiting antag greytiders due to that elec immunity, slime traitors that overheat the distro/molotov a area and chill there or non antags that do nothing but act like humans becaude thry are just humans that get fucked by water, cold and dont die when they get shocked.
>>
Do the gas miners just constantly spew out gas as long as they're wrenched anywhere?
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wait so basically I cant play?
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>>173182209
yes
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>>173182209
Yes.
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>>173181389
so like I cant play is what your telling me
>>
seems pretty dumb if u ask me
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>>173181547
why aren't we accepting new players?
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>>173182209
They also need power and to be turned on after being wrenched, but yes
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>>173182557
Rounds can have as many as 60 people on even during non-peak hours. We don't need more people, we have too many!
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>>173181547
why though?
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>>173182646
jesus christ man 60 people is not that many i've played on servers with 100+ people on and it's considered low-pop
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>>173181547
yes why is it that you aren't accepting nw players
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>>173182704
Our pop barely tops 25 on a good day
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>>173179209
>the internet is castrating a generation of young men
exhibit A
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>>173183130 yeah i don't pay much attention to our population ever
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>>173183130
>I only play at 4 in the morning
>>
>Compiling...
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>>173183419
4 AM has like 8 people at roundstart and gets up to 20 TOPS
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>>173183584
Yes, that was my point. We're in the 50's-60's during peak hours, even more after some fag makes a youtube video or kids are off from school. Lowpop is not representative of the whole day.
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>>173183734
ok and? that's nothing so why aren't we accepting new players?
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>>173183826
Pomf's orders
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>>173183826
>that's nothing
You are the reason we are not accepting new players.
>>
Rust being able to create radiation again when? The TEG has been nerfed so hard that it is almost impossible to reach SME levels of energy unless you pump in plasma with the heat of the fucking sun.
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>>173183950
oh fuck really ok didn't know
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When you realize the turrets aren't going to let you stand up.
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new players make me cry
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SUBMIT TO YOUR SUPERIORS CARBONS
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>>173183826
Not him but 30—40 is perfect pop for a lot of people, enough players so the station will run decently, enough so it insnt dead but also not too chaotic, murderboning is harder to do but antags can still properly antagonize, comfy projects are possible snd people.enjoy them more, so on. Too many people and it just becomes a shitstorm.
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how do we fix the retarded lag when right-clicking on a pile of items?
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>>173184116

They're not new players, they're refugees that wants the same shit as their old servers without even realizing it, and vocate to have it that way again
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>>173184116
how do you prevent this crap from happening
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>>173184190
alt-click instead.
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>>173184165
shut up sausage
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I finally managed to finish it. Thank you everyone who stopped by.
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>>173184263
>when you code it XDDD
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>>173184165

OOC: Grimreaperx15: So, why did someone blow up all my borgs
OOC: Kavaloosh: cuz i thought'd it'd be funny
OOC: Grimreaperx15: I hate you.
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>>173184165
SaMMIs readded when?

Programmable arms added when?

I want to build a greyshit autoborger
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>>173184290
> closing maint
YOU FUCKING BIRD
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Cпacибo зa нaличныe
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>>173180567
You can lock the controls
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>>173184458
It's just a little sliver of maint. Besides, any respectable bar will have a coat room for its guests to store their belongings.
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>>173181389
Google it
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>>173184039
ok man sorry i just don't check pop very often and i thought that 60 was tiny because i used to play on yogstation about a year ago
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>>173184875
Go back.
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Who were the antags last round?
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>>173184549
WAIFUS EVERYONE
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>>173184549
IDI NAHUI PDR CYKA
>>
Okay directx is installed, flash is up to date, activex filtering is enabled

byond still does not turn on
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>>173184549
Thanks for taking a screenshot to prove that you're metagaming by assuming two people will be having sex in dorms.
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>>173185247
t. souhei ($500 poorer)
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>>173185195
YOU'RE
NOT
WELCOME
THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES NEWFAGS, THEY DON'T GET THE FUCKING HINT
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>>173184549
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY GAMBLING MONIE
>>
Somebody give me some good programming music to code your ideas to
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>>173185848
the sim city 4 OST is bretty good for coding
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>>173185848
psytrance
or lainchan radio
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>>173185794
S L U T
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>>173186074
I never asked for this
I simply wanted the cyborgs to go away
MAKE IT STOP
NO STEALO PDA-O
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Is there frame sprite which I can reuse for a closet frame? I really don't want to make my own
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>>173186341
What do you mean by frame exactly?
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>>173186341
Then don't bother
Shit like that is why TG code is in the shitter
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>>173184116
>Add something nobody wanted
>Majority negative feedback when brought up
>Adds it anyway
>B-but you can turn it off!
>Doesn't even work properly
>Close the comments when people bitch about coder sneakiness

S N E A K Y
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>>173186395
a metal frame
as in incomplete closet

>>173186407
it'll look like shit regardless of what I do, unless you want to make it
>>
>>173185848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r6C3z3TEKw
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>>173186482
Closest you'll get is the open closet at that point, we go straight from metal to complete closet (The first one in that DMI)
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>>173186482
Take the blank one and knock out the back and sides. It's not that much work.
>>
>>173186482
>>173186672
Or take the blank one and chop the door off.
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>>173185494
FUCK YOU NIGGER, THE GAME WAS RUNNING FINE

I INSTALL NEW CPU AND GAME STOP WORKING

I'M OLDFAG NOT NEW FAG
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>>173186812
hey, that could work and actually makes sense in this case, thanks
>>
OH THE YEAR WAS SEVENTEEN SEVENTY-EIGHT
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>>173186904
HOW I WISH I WAS IN SHERBROOKE NOW!
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>>173180129
Emilia is Rin's
t. Rin
>>
Are there any decent piles of songs to use on instruments out there other than the piano page on the wiki?
Also being able to put credits into drinking glasses when for maximum busking.
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>>173186341
where to fug is that thanks doc locker used
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>>173185848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPBWp0Yyo4
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>>173184116
Delet this
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>>173185848
https://youtu.be/F5hhFMSAuf4
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>>173187687
is this about attack anims?
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>>173187469
The ayy lmao xeno vault
>>
>>173186425
>majority negative when brought up

Attack animations has never been majority negative from anywhere it was polled before it was released.
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>>173188003
Yeah, the ivory tower has gone insane with power. The head chicken should be saying something to them soon. He seemed pretty annoyed yesterday about how they merged it
>>173188330
Didn't it get reverted very quickly after it was put in the first time?
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>>173188434
>can only merge their shitty TEEGEE attack animations on april fools
>refuse to remove it after aprils fools
>clamps down and shuts down all discussion about it on the git
>even the chicken is pissed about it
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>>173188434
It did, but that was because Intigracy was getting tired of gridlock and just pushed it right in as a "test merge" or some shit and other collabs were mad they weren't told.

The poll before his PR, the PR, and the PR probe made to remerge it after all had a majority of people supporting adding the attack animations.
>>
>>173188434
jesus christ they are toggle-able you guys are so autistic
t. not a coder
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>>173188623
Imagine if the players knew that this was an actual permanent change PR instead of the april fools joke it was. I doubt it would have gotten the same jokes. Because this looks oh so serious.
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14503
>>173188932
It retoggles itself every found round.
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>>173189030
Did you bug report that?
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>>173189189
I don't want PJB to lock it instantly and be a target of the ivory tower.
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>>173189030
There are really just a few shitstirrers trying to cause more CODER DRAMA
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>>173189404
Does anyone have that old kelly edit about untested PR's? I feel like it needs a touchup
>>
don't be a probe
read the code
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>>173189030
>poll and feedback on whether this should be merged is gathered before april 1st
>merged april 1st hidden behind a joke
SO SERIOUS MY AUTISM AHHH TRIGGERED AHHHHHHH
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wow these booty crumbs in my latte are really neat
thanks for that
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>>173189468
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>>173189517
>Sucking the ivory towers smeg filled willy

ugh
>>
>>173190070
>having such aggressive autism

ugh, why do I have to share a planet let alone a game with you?
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>he's an open source coder
>on 4chan
>on an autistic space game
>he does it for free
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he locks issues he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he closes prs he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to code anything besides attack animations
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
>>
>>173190989
>he will spend all his time playing an autistic atmospherics sim
>he will never provide anything of value to the community
>he will complain vehemently whenever something doesn't go his way
>he is on autismbux
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to code anything
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
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>>173191148
>TFW omega level contributed sprites and nothing else
Feels neutral
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>>173191148
Shitposting has plenty of value. At least it doesn't make the server crash endlessly and run at 10fps
>>
>>173191537
It's not even frames for me, it's insane delay for all actions
>>
>>173191537
>confirmed it's a BYOND issue several times
REEEEEEEE CODERS FUCKED ME IN MY SLEEP PLS BANE THEM, I WILL NEVER KNOW PEACE AGAIN MY BUTTHOLE IS FOREVER A GAPING MAW
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>>173191724
Why is every other server working just fine then? Not even celt was this incompetent and eager to blame other people for his fuck ups.
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>>173191958
>Not even celt
Who are you trying to fool Celt?
>>
>byond starts shitting the bed
>conveniently after a controversial addition is added with literally zero transparency
>people are surprised other people both think there might be a correlation (even if there isn't) and are mad about it
Really Quantifies My Cashews
>>
>>173192683
>controversial things are somehow inherently more likely to cause gamebreaking issues than less well known things

I'm sure this is a logical fallacy but I just can't decide which one
>>
>>173192683
>people are surprised other people both think there might be a correlation (even if there isn't) and are mad about it
>people continue to be mad when the correlation is disproven
IT'S A HIT PIECE
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It's astounding, githubs changing
Coding takes its toll
But listen closely, not for very much longer
I've got to manage code
I remember doing the self merge
Drinking those moments when
The shitposting would hit me
And the ivory tower would be calling
Let's do the self merge again,
Let's do the self merge again!
It's just an untested code
And then a april fools merge
With your friend merging for you
You bring the game to lag
But it's the server crashes
That really drives you insane,
Let's do the self merge again!
>>
>>173192776
>>173192802
Where's the proofs?
Not memeing where's the actual proof.
>>
>>173193013
He didn't self merge it though
>>
>>173190989
There's literally nothing wrong with progress bars.
>>
>>173193205
>Implying he hasn't self merged plenty of times before hand.
>Ignoring the friend merging part.
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>>173187687
>>173190989
>>173193013
the way of the future
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>>173193204
pomf did server runtime logs and they had nothing to do with attack animations
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>>173193286
Okay? Most of the collaborators are friends with each other. That doesn't make it self merging.
>>
>>173193306
I still have at least 2 more rocky horror github show posts to make friend.
>>173193371
>Don't review this just merge it for me
>k senpai
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>>173193418
Why would you think a collaborator would ask another to NOT review something?

What benefit would that give the person who is not getting their shit reviewed?
>>
Is there a better feeling than getting the chocoglubbs and the captain's spare when there's several other assistants and a full command staff?
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HARD HITTING EDITORIALS
ONLY ON /SS13G/ - SPESSMEN ON A SPESS STATION
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>>173179209
shiggy rebirth
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>>173193957
a work of art
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>>173193957
>snow map

Why must you hurt me in this way?
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How d'you do, I
See you've met my
Faithful Codingman
He's just a little brought down because
When you commented
He thought you were a thumbsup man
Don't get strung out by the way that I review
Don't judge a Collab by his Code
I'm not much of a man by the light of day
But by night I'm one hell of a lover
I'm just a sweet Non reviewer
From Self merging, Ivory Tower, ha ha
Let me show you some threads, maybe make some dead
You look like you're both pretty robust
Or if you want something visual that's not at all abysmal
We could take in attack animations


I'm glad we caught you online
Could we make a comment
We're both pretty concerned
We'll just say what we think, then go back to space
We don't want to be any worry

Well, that's a byond bug, well, what the fugg?
Well, babies, don't shitpost
By the light of the night, it'll all seem alright
I'll get in touch lummox

I'm just a sweet Non reviewer
From Self merging, Ivory Tower, ha ha

Why don't you stay around
Good codes abound
I could you show you my Addiction
I've been making a code
Been taking up my work load
Just some good animation

I'm just a sweet Non reviewer
From Self merging, Ivory Tower, ha ha
Merge it, Merge it, I'm just a sweet Non reviewer
From Self merging, Ivory Tower, ha ha

So, come to gihub
And see whats the habub
I see you shake with aut-
Ism
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>>173193957
>evil coders might be planning to dispose of foster, their last menace on the admin team
not like this
not like this.
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>>173194820
>foster literally spergs out after his second lowpop server poll to get rid of attack animations
truly a menace with a steely mind and demeanor.
>>
>when you code it

YOU ASKED FOR IT
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>>173195104
Actual Foster here
>Get rid of attack animations
I was legitimately curious what people thought of them.
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>>173195202
Collabs only merge things their friends do.
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>>173195202
>complain about x
>get told to code it
>code it
>everyone dislikes it
>>
anyone got that image about pomf telling how to make a local server to test shit?
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>>173195256
so have you yet come to the conclusion that people like them, and 1-3 shitposters don't?
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>>173195419
>>complain about x
>>get told to code it
>>code it
>>everyone dislikes it

have you even played on the server recently?
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>>173159080
Second reply to this for fuck item animations, they are worse.
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>>173195861
What animations would you use?
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I was feeling done in, couldn't win
I'd only ever bug fixed before
I thought there's no use getting into Merging
It only leads to trouble and thread purging

Now all I want to know is how to go
I've closed issues and I want more
If you put up resistance, I want you to stay the distance
I've got a ban itch to scratch, You fucking assistants

Sh-sh-sh-shitposters, I wanna delete you
Close this, delete this, lock this.
Fucking shitposters

Then if any troubles grows while your thread gets closed
You'll just get repo banned
And that's just one small fraction of the main attraction
You need a friendly collab and I need emoji action

Sh-sh-sh-shitposters, I wanna delete you
Close this, delete this, lock this.
Fucking shitposters
Fucking shitposters
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>>173196002
None.
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>>173196113
>>173194797
>>173193013
I'm not sure what's more painful, that you actually spent time out of your life coming up with this autistic mess or that it's based around rocky horror.
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>>173184116
Why is this suddenly happening and is there any way to fix it
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>>173195746
>if you disagree with me you're shitposting
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>>173186425
>when told it gives admittedly slight advantages in some areas they say
>There's nothing unfair about missing out on information due to your own choice to turn a feature off
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>go to join
>set up character just as the round is ending
>server maintenence
;-;
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>>173196460
I'd rather spend my life shitposting than defending my terrible decisions on 2 discords, the github and the thread.
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>>173196582
>if you like something I don't you're a coder metaclub conspirator.
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reminder
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we could've expanded the place to add a clone bay but the shuttle got called

alas, at least we managed to make the first few rooms breathable so you wouldn't get busted lungs or suffacted on co2 them die to a chainstun
>>
>someone called me a powergay for wearing breath mask since roundstart
???
>>
>>173196743
you'd have to actually make some terrible decisions to warrant defending them, instead of being a peanut gallery shitter
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>>173196804
Progress is pretty much impossible anyhow
>>
>[18:34:28]ACCESS: Logout: *no key*/(Pocket Buddy) (Starboard Primary Hallway - 256,241,1)
>[18:34:28]ACCESS: Login: Lunstra/(Pocket Buddy) from [NOPE] || BYOND v510
>literally no drop in internet connectivity just BYOND shitting its pants
Well shit, sorry I bitched at you warden, space magic really did delete me. I was enjoying being the clowns pAI too god dammit.
>>
>>173196843
wow you powergayman shit lord
>>
I hate gays.

Who's with me?
>>
>>173196902
Friendo that's the notice that you got killed.

A "logout" is your key being deleted from the mob, and the login is you becoming a ghost.
>>
>>173196901
it would be 100% progressable if you could order space suits from cargo

you can order for plasmamens, greys, voxes and dionaes don't need space suits.
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>>173197105
Progress towards completing the Hive is impossible, space suit or no space suit.
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>>173196843
souhei it makes you look like a faggot take it off
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>>173197087
I am not good with logs. I can't actually find anything about what did delete me though.
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Rest in peace niggly wiggly.
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>>173196764
>if you don't like a pull request you're a whackjob
>>
Feedback on the Hive from this round here:
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/14560
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>>173185848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVKn1Ke4hVQ&feature=youtu.be&t=897
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Coders are gay, I hate coders, gays and fags they are.
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what if pyrite cores gave 1000 credits and you could inject sepia slimes with gold for a bigger camera
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>>173196843
>not baneposting IC all round
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>>173197181
no u
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>>173197417
Refresh my memory. Wasn't there something gamebreaking about the big camera?
>>
>>173196843
More like wannabe powergay.
And since you wear no headgear one of these days I'm gonna smash your head in until you go braindead.
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>we're reaching the crux of coder illuminati larping
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>>173196843
cyka
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>>173197171
it IS actually manageable you just need few things
1. Eva Suit
2. Medical supplies, a box with 3 advanced brute kits, 2 advanced burn kits, a pill bottle with doctor's delight and another pill bottle with Hyronalin to prevent the constant radiation from the map
3. Combat Supplies needed are just 2 Advanced Eguns for each crewmember in the gateway
4. a stable internet so you don't ram into the supermatter sea
5. friends who also know the strat

i remember the first day it got released the ERT sent there managed to reach the heart, but they got killed in the end because the only radiation protective ERT suit is the enginnering one wich only one ERT member had
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>>173197819
Didn't the ERT also have a marauder?
>>
>>173197235
Didn't he get AIDs? What happened with that
>>
>>173197887
the marauder only had a single gun and had to be left midway because it ran out of power.
>>
>>173197235
>broken how
>it completely freezes character preferences
nice
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>>173197417
kill yourself sandy
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>>173198320
but i'm coding it :^)
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>Coders tell anyone who doesn't like Attack Animations to just hit the Revert button
>The Revert button is broken
>Cluster gets overly aggressive to anyone who asks for it to be reverted
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>>173198445
Hi person who is presently posting in discord
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>>173158992
Lads you know what to do.

http://colorthis.space/
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I hate jews. I hate jews, spics, and niggers too.

Coders can go die.

I HATE CODERS!


WHO ELSE HATES THEM?
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>>173198828
You mean badclown right?
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Huh what do you mean you don't like my pull.
Uhh, racist and sexist much?? Ugh. Typical.
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>>173198747
>Swastikas everywhere
Lel so edgy and kewl
>>
I sucked myself into space
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WHERE IS THE POLL BAUDS
YOU PROMISED A POLL
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>>173199276
Where is the one the ivory tower was promising on making after the merge?
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>traitor starts bashing a sec officer with a mysterious toolbox
>shoot traitor
>security officer gets up and lasers me to death
>>
>captain stuns me and takes my id for entering the bridge
all IAAs have bridge access
>>
Is it shitty to steal the autolathe from derelict?
>>
>>173200603
stealing is always wrong
>>
>>173200603
Why would you ever do that? Just make one.
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>>173200584
you got it back
>>
>only person on away mission
>take 4 cr-20 meme guns, egun and a blood red hardsuit
>jack off while tator CE and rogue mmi vent the shuttle to space and get 3 sec guards killed
>>
>>173200603
Yes, that's the mommis autolathe you little shit.
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>>173200734
Yes, but there was no reason to stun me, as I was not engaging in illegal or suspicious activity.
>>
>>173200603
The derelict has a circuit printer and a protolathe in the next room. You can just make another.
>>
>rogue CE can't even break through the pod glass in time
>smears like a bug as it takes off while I watch calmly
>>
>>173200871
>circuit printer
You can just get a soldering iron out of the vending machine along with some Sulfuric Acid and make one out of a sheet of glass.
>>
>>173200868
I honestly didn't know IAA had bridge access. upon consulting the wiki, I returned it
>>
>>173200984
>didn't know the IAA had bridge access
hownu.ru
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>>173200984
Ah, thank you.
>>
>>173201025
it's not a role I ever see, let alone interact with
>>
>lone engi fucks off to the gateway and doesn't set up power
>captain tells him to power first and he laughs in his face
>obviously just a powergamer joining for a hardsuit
Jobban for Hector Lecon when?
>>
>>173201097
my question still stands, IAAs are notorious for having the access they do, HOWNU.RU, alternatively where are you coming as a refugee if you've never seen an IAA as a head role???
>>
Please now vote on this proxypoll about attack animations

Honor system, nobody vote more than like six or eight times tops, okay?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12686498
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>>173201135
when you request it
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>>173201097
IAAs don't get weapons or sec comms. Being able to go to the bridge and make snarky announcements with the comms console is one of the few actual powers they start with.
>>
>>173201197
just make a "do you support attack animations y/n" poll instead of splitting the vote you sneaky fucking coder shit
>>
>>173201197
Try here instead

https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14561
>>
>>173201482
That's exactly what a fucking snake coder would say you little shit, get out of this thread, your kind aren't welcome
>>
>>173201197
>>173201482
http://www.strawpoll.me/12686517
did it for u
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>>173201135
CE was setting up power, you tryhard
>>
>>173201135
Probe literally said he would jobban someone if they literally did no engineering, you should request it with the logs showing he laughed at him
>>
Here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12686526
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>>173201625
Captain asked someone to be CE because no one set up power
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>>173201568
the negative option is the one that gets split, dumbass
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>>173201673
>literally
>>
>>173201715
The positive option was the one that got split between "good but bad execution" and "it was good" you fucking SNAKE ASS CODER
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>>173201969
>3 negative options, 1 neutral, 2 positive
???????
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(you) if u wanna revert
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>>173202106
Give me a quick rundown on the collabs
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>>173202106
do it to it
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REVERT PR IS NOW UP
REVERT PR IS NOW UP
REVERT PR IS NOW UP
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>>173202060
>Meme option is more likely to be chosen by people who are outraged than people who are content

SNEAKY CODER

YOUR LIES DON'T WORK HERE

SHOO SHOO BACK TO GITHUB

SHOO SHOO SNEAKY CODER
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>>173202106
pls
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>>173202106
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>>173202278
>>173202352
>>173202678
>>173202787
>all these posts from "different" people
>only 2 upvotes on the PR
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>>173203082
Implying I want a revert haha rekt nerd I just like bogdanoff.
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>>173201673
Go ahead and grudgeban on a server that can barely keep 20 people active
>>
how the fuck did we win? AI just Sudoku?
>>
>>173203836
the heroes of the station got in there and smacked the ai with a wrench while the turrets shot at displaced wall girders
>>
That game of russian roulette and the after party was the highlight of my shift
>>
>>173203889
sawbones you spend far too much time in the thread lad
>>
>>173203836
AI got shit pushed in and didn't shunt

>>173203913
I gambled all my money away after winning a big jackpot then lost to the chef, gud round
>>
>>173201162
Sulaco and only about three months of continuous playtime
>>
>>173203957
No, I was the dumbass detective that waltzed into the AI core and died 15 into the round
>>
>>173204002
you made me laugh so hard with your talk of 'core'
you were in the UPLOAD the core is in it's own minisat
>>
>I just wanted to make a fight club and no one was interested
why live
>>
>>173204078
Yeah I didn't realize that it's not at all like box
>>
Reminder to always turn on suit sensors to full
Especially if you're rushing into somewhere to die
>>
>>173204002
motherfucker, you were HoS
>>
>>173165925
Nobody cares about theft objectives. It's not hard, there's rarely any evidence the scanner picks up, and you don't really impact the round. It's part of why greentext is a joke. Antagonize the round if you're an antagonist.
>>
>>173204221
I was unwillingly promoted to HOS when I asked for the ability to process prisoners on account of I was the only sec officer as the detective
>>
I like the attack animations and I think a toggle of option (which we have already) is suitable for those who don't

t. some faggot
>>
>>173204304
Too bad, you're about to outvoted by the revert crowd and it isn't going to come back from the dead after this time.
>>
>>173164795
>>173165925
Nobody cares about theft objectives. It's not hard, there's rarely any evidence the scanner picks up, and you don't really impact the round. It's part of why greentext is a joke. Antagonize the round if you're an antagonist.

>>173204304
Professionalism is more important regardless.
>>
>>173172663
No. Banana juice is used in other stuff. You can ghetto chem potassium elsewhere.
>>
>play for first time in weeks

WHAT DID YOU NIGGERS ROFL I CAN BARELY MOVE, I HAVE ROLLERSKATES ON, CAN'T STOP SLIDING AROUND

HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS BADLY ROFL
>>
>>173178874
Like?
>>
>>173183826
>>173182704
Doesn't matter that other places are worse. Quality rapidly falls off once we're past 40ish

>>173184079
Fun fact, the TEG wasn't nerfed, it was only not buffed to obscene levels as a crutch to get baddies to work with it anymore.
Remember it's thermal exchange generator not blasma of the sun
>>
>>173171478
Bit late, but yes reset removes hacked and ion laws.
>>
>>173186341
Use the emagged personal locker sprite. It gets "painted" to the emagged locker sprite depending on its access setting. Once you secure the circuit it goes to its unlocked sprite and is complete. If you're straight up adding the locking mechanism, just use a default closet and just abstract the paint process.
>>
>>173204439
>professionalism > function
gay as fuck, professionalism also dictates you can't say nigger
>>
>>173164161
Rimworld is more popular and a better game than DF. Sorry.

I know that hurts to say and I've been playing DF since 2012 but Toady is a bad coder and isn't interested in making a video game. He's interested in making a simulation.

Rimworld is what happens if Toady goes the other direction and focuses on making a video game again.
>>
>>173193371
>Maintainer shits all over the rules
>Gets his cock gobbling maintainer fuccboi to merge it the same day for him so it's not explicitly a self-merge when we all know it is
>He's also expected to uphold the rules, not shit all over them
>Neither of them see any problem with it
>None of the coders who have to suck their dick to not get "forgotten" in PR hell for not falling in to the metacoderclub line see any problem with it
>Still wont remake it properly despite taking less than 4 minutes to do so
>Everyone else who's done a misleading PR or snuck things in gets assblasted but not these two fucklechucks because they're the one's who hold the power
Really makes you think about how Pomf is the only one who can stop this abuse.
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>>173206069
>get mad at someone for SELF MERGING
>when they didn't MERGE IT THEMSELVES
>still pushing this pants on head retarded angle

Jesus fucking christ
>>
>>173206069
>calling them maintainers
back to tg you go laddie
>>
lowpop
>ants murderbone, instant shuttle call
>engineering blackout shitfest
>medbay shitfest
>afk everywhere
>lowsec or nosec, lowsec will be shitsec
>>
>>173206069
Probe has legitimately told Pomf to not intervene under any circumstances because "you don't play the game"
>>
How do I vote on a poll on the vgstation main page?
>>
>>173204957
SOMEONE FIX THIS SHIT, I PRESS MOVE ONE TIME AND MOVE 20 TILES 10 SECONDS LATER

WHAT THE FUCK
>>
>>173196901
You need a focused effort and a competent team to keep recharging guns, and treating wounded while the assault team pushes in lurches. Basically oldschool musket tactics to keep sustained fire and manpower. It's a shame about the rads cause we can't haul a locker of headless monkeymen to clone someone in 50 seconds like the tomb.
>>
>>173206254
I did not.

>>173206383
It's a connection issue with the server dude we can't magic up a solution to something fucked up on BYONDs end.
>>
BEEP BOOP MOTHERFUCKERS WE BORG NOW
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>>173206541
>connection issue with the server
>BYONDs end
>server is run by POMF

???
>>
>>173197417
There was something wrong with the 5x5 and 7x7 camera

>>173197819
What's your opinion on Arithrazine? As long as you're not starving the brute is nothing and it slightly treats toxin damage to help deal with it.

>>173201135
When you learn to swap power cells you stupid fuck.
>>
>>173206541
Yes you did, you fucking barefaced liar.

To anyone else other than probe, ask Pomf in direct message on steam or discord or otherwise if he was told by Probe to not oppose attack animations because he no longer plays.

Honestly I'm absolutely disgusted that you lied like this Probe, I used to look up to you before you became a cunt
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>>173206406
You also have to kill the brains first. Its defenses are shit compared to the heart, and background radiation is removed when you kill it
>>
>>173206541
Probe I'mma give you some legit advice

Don't bother taking this thread srsly and answering questions, people are here to shit post and get people mad.

Shit post here, save the real answers for Git/Disc/Forum
>>
>>173197417
Cameras can't be higher because the method they use to make camera images lags, a 5x5 image takes 3 times and a 7x7 camera takes 5 times longer making it really noticeable.
>>
>>173205585
>Dylan sneaks in things
>Gets run out of the server
>Clusterfuck and his semen demon sneak in with a self-merge
>Roaring applause by the coder circlejerk
Really makes you wonder if they think
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>>173206815
Alright here you go here's the proof that probe is a FUCKING LIAR
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>>173206930
Allegedly the outcome of pre-april voting was a yes to animations

Just because the method was questionable doesn't mean we have to burn everything to the ground
>>
>>173207034
That was 4 months ago
>>
>>173206894
>Ignore the posts that have no substance
>Address the substance of the posts with it
>lolol, save the real answers for Git/Disc/Forum they're just a "vocal minority!", "screaming retards!", "shitposters!"
Since the rules for PR's no longer exist, remember you can sneak in whatever you want now. Oh wait, it's only okay if you can merge it yourself
>>
>>173207034
>PROBE FUCKING DROVE THE CHICKEN AWAY FROM HIS OWN SERVER
That is the final fucking straw. Disgusting.
>>
>>173207034
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/12853#issuecomment-268165237

>>173206894
>The thread is for shitposting
That's depressing. The thread is for fun. Github/forums are for work but that doesn't mean we should be a rancid shithole.
>>
>>173206930
Dylan got kicked out because everything he coded, including bugfixes, was causing more bugs. And even when being told on he was on thin ice he still kept making untested prs which would cause more and more bugs.
>>
>>173207154
>that doesn't mean we should be a rancid shithole.

>holding a 4chan thread up to a higher standard than other threads

OH BOY, YOU'RE IN FOR A FUN TIME
>>
>>173207083
>Revert the PR
>Go through the unreasonable burden of opening git, switching to the attack animation branch, and re-opening the PR with a proper title, a proper description and links to the previous issue's, PR's, and server polls as per PR guidelines. Less than 10 minutes of work
>Instead, double down and rabidly attack, shut down criticism, and pretend nothing is wrong
This is the price of your integrity. Cluster and PJB should be removed for this.
>>
>>173207096
>>173206930
Do you think if you samefag a lie enough people will believe it?
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>>173207217
And when he repeatedly snuck things into his PR's to the point that anything he made sat for ages as a result. You like to forget about that. Because it's what you're doing.
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>>173207295
I wouldn't mind doing it that way, but I'm not the keeper of git

I do want attack animations to survive this shitfest, though
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>>173207154
probe fucking drove pomf away from his own server
this guy fooled me
i used to think he actually cared about the server but it seems hes a powerhungry psychopath
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>>173207404
Dylan didn't sneak things into his PRs, he just drowned his changes in so many grammar changes that they were unreadable so no one could review them to find bugs. And since he didn't test his code for bugs he needed it more than anyone else.
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>>173207515
They wont because the revert PR is going to succeed
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Are we sure Probe's account hasn't been hacked?
His personality has changed so dramatically, seeing what he did to pomf, and how he's treating the players so badly when he has the chance to suck some coder dick
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Probe killed pomf.
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>>173207515
That's all that had to do instead of being spergs. Yet here we are.

>>173207532
Yeah fair enough. The point still stands that he would sneak balance changes into his bug pr's then get chewed out because it was misleading and against PR rules The polyacid nerf was a good sneaker

>>173207663
It could get 10 billion thumbs up, it doesn't mean anything without a maintainer to merge it. Pomf's basically gone and nobody will go against Cluster and PJB who control most of the coders and other maintainers.

>>173207691
He's just getting worn down. He's too active and that gets to you with how abrasive our melting pot of different visions of what vgstation should be is. It doesn't help with whorena, solarious, 2hotdogs, and the rest of the troll brigade being pieces of shit either.
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I voted FOR attack animations but I want them reverted because of the underhanded way the coders did it. Anyone the same?
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>>173207295
What purpose would that serve, though? The new PR would be merged anyway as per the server poll.

Obviously the April Fools merge was a shitty thing to do, but I don't think the situation calls for anything other than a stern "don't do this shit again" from Pomf.
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>>173207887
>whorena, solarious, 2hotdogs
>not kolith, yclat, or kilozombie
get with the times gramps
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I voted FOR attack animations but I want them reverted because of the underhanded way the coders did it. Anyone the same?
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>>173207983
Are you me? I am exactly the same. I'll vote against them if I get the chance.
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Not gonna lie, former attack animations voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching the coderbus crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let these collabs get the merge valids.
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>>173207992
Coders don't fucking listen to pomf because probe drove pomf away
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>>173208148
>probe drove pomf away
Source?
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>>173208109
Can't fucking wait for that new poll they promised.
I don't mind the animations but the coders have to learn that they can not pull this fucking shit
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>>173207983
>>173208048
Then post in https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14561 . They're already stuck their heads in the sand for the most part regarding the thread.

>>173207992
Following the guidelines they are empowered to enforce and have enforced against others? Fuck you if you think it's okay to only do so when it's convenient for you. They had their "joke" it was funny. They should have reverted, remade it, and it'd be merged properly within the week because of all the previous work on it. The joke's on us for only pomf being able to do anything about their abuse.
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>>173208186
See >>173207154
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>>173208219
And get on probe's shitlist? I'll wait for the anonymous vote thank you
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>>173208242
That pic makes it seem like Probe was not at all driving Pomf away.

Pomf said that he spoke with someone who told him he shouldn't say shit because he doesn't play anymore.

Probe replies that he thinks it is rude for someone to say such a thing to Pomf.

How does that in any way seem like Probe is driving Pomf away?
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>>173208284
You don't have to use your ckey. A lot of people don't for that reason.
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>>173208284
>anonymous vote

>anonymous
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>>173208343
"Probe replies that he thinks it is rude for someone to say such a thing to Pomf."
No, he said that Pomf shouldn't have disclosed a private conversation. Guess who it was with?
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how the FUCK is it running this fucking poorly
WHAT DID YOU FUCKING DO
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>>173208521
we didn't do anything that's why we can't fix it man.
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>>173208521
Lummox yet again rattled the hugbox and now all the games that use his abortion are suffering
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>all this samefagging right now

5 votes for revert
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>>173208691
Why are all the other servers working just fine then?
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>>173208763
I-It's lummox guys!

>>173208707
I'm not making a new account and I'm not getting on the shitlist of the people I need help from.
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>>173208707
>all this samefagging right now
4 votes against the revert
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>>173208763
no u
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>>173208707
You mean the proxypoll? Hahaha yeah because I totally voted in something like that that doesn't matyer
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>>173208763
why is our server working just fine for me?
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>>173208925
>lying on the internet
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>>173206814
I swapped my power cell so I could do my job before I go and fuck off
Don't sign up for a station critical job on lowpop if you can't fucking do it
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>>173208109
I am now a #carshmissile
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>>173209090
>animeme
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If you're having unplayable lag in /vg/ please respond to this post with your country
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>>173209137
>anime on an anime imageboard

>>173209195
USA
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>>173208219
Ok i did it
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Does contacting NT actually do anything? Do admins act as NT?
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>>173208513
>"That's a rude and depressing way of looking at it"
This sentence implies that a way of looking at things was referenced by Pomf's post, and that said way of looking at things is rude and depressing.

>"How is what I said rude?"
Pomf does not understand how his statement of "so I won't stand in the way of this[...]" could be construed as rude.

>"I meant the other way around"
Probe clarifies that he meant the speaker's way of looking at things is rude and depressing, rather than Pomf's, as Pomf had initially thought.

You may be familiar with the phrase "out of context."
Taken out of context, "It's rude to say what someone said to you" may seem to convey the idea that one should not speak about private conversations.

However, given the context of the rest of the conversation, it is clear that it is rude for the person to say the words that they did, rather than rude for Pomf to recount them.
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>>173209284
Sometimes. Yes.
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>>173209284
Admins act as NT if there are any online and they happen to feel like acting as NT.

Otherwise it does nothing.
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>>173209293
You COMPLETELY IGNORED THE LAST SENTENCE because it's convenient for you
fuck off probe
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>>173209405
I spent the entire last part of my post explaining how the meaning of the last sentence can change based on the context of the conversation.
I didn't ignore it at all.
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None of this would have happened if Sawbones as the Trialmin Headmin.
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>>173209449
Well how about we ask the big chicken what he thinks, hmm?
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>>173209195
UK!
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>>173209550
The chicken tried to revert it but it didnt work. He seems fairly pissed about all this.
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>>173209836
Factually where is the source. The last time chikin disliked a PR especial he ~selfmerged~ the lockbox revert.
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>>173209984
Expect a stern talking to over all this. Who knows, people may actually lose their collab status over self merging this shit again.
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>>173209105
What station critical job? Cause I'm not seeing one.
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>>173209984
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>>173210359
>>173210472
THE KODER KABAL HAS BEGUN A COUP!
RALLY TO YOUR CHIKKEN LORDE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WE MUST GIVE HIM OUR POWER!
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>>173210359
>>173210472
Ah, merge conflicts. Such is life in gitland. I geuss he'd have to revert whatever bugfixes were added after the animation merge.
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>>173210687
>somehow merge without conflicts
>RUH ROH, THE SECRET REPO YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HAS A CONFLICT
>what's the conflict?
>WELL IT WOULDN'T BE A SECRET THAN DUMMY!
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>>173210687
Dragonbro tried to, they fucked with the secret repo or some shit.
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>>173210748
>>173210750
son of bitch
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>>173210906
WHY DO THE PLAYERS HATE US CODERS DAWG.
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>>173186425
>nobody
nice try autist, more people have voted for than against on every single poll so far. just toggle it off and be done with it my dude
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>>173212589
>Maps box genetics a better cloning lab #9825
>Also puts an invisible unlogged pulse destroyer
>It's okay because the contributors are allowed to make misleading PR's now because the rules aren't rules anymore
I sure do love hippocrites.
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Props to the other engineering crew that round. The way we turned out to start fixing Science was downright professional.
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>>173212991
Who did that? If that story is true we should ban them from the repo. Of course, if you're just making up that story I can see why no one takes the thread seriously
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>>173212991
>discussing attack anims

>brings up another pr as an "argument"

> ????????????? what did he meme by this??????
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>>173213175
>Misleading PR's are against the rules
>Unless you're the one enforcing the rules
>Instead of just remaking it after the "joke", which would have taken no time at all, they go full retard
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what does PR mean?
>>
Shjitposters still going retarded over a graphical improvement.
Pathetic.
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>>173213361
Pull request. Basically you're petitioning to have your changes accepted
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>>173213361
Pull request
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>>173213393
No, they're either going retarded because they hate the TG creep or that TWO maintainers just shit all over the rules
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>>173213276
god damn Morena don't you ever sleep? Shilling against a meme PR name that was already voted in?
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What's going on with probe and pomf and attack animations? I've been away for couple months
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>>173213487
The vote occurred before intigracy self merged it and made everyone hate it. And look at how they got in this time, attack animations are not going to be here for long.
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>>173214162
It's optional you stupid shitter, go play on tg and come back with a clean record to get unbanned
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>>173214268
>If you don't like a tg feature why don't you go play there instead!

I don't understand, and the toggle resets nonstop.
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>>173214368
Fuck off whorena
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>>173214368
>tg feature
>admins interchange bans/info between the servers

yea, you're an idiot
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>>173214401
Hahhahh what a salty little bitch
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>>173209195
Austria
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>>173214448
I'm not the one bitching about things on server I'm banned on for being autistic crybaby
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>>173214401
Bill hasn't even posted on the github or anywhere about this. Get a better scapegoat, go with carsh or yclat.
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>>173214268
Why play on TG when we are taking all their terrible meme features like fucking attack animations? Soon you won't be able to tell them apart.

>GO PLAY ON THAT OTHER SERVER WE ARE TRYING TO BE
>tfw

So what, learn about more horrible deathmatch features to drag back to/vg/? GENIUS
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>>173214551
jesus christ morena you giant pissbaby, you're cancerous
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>piss off the wrong players
>zealotron starts griefing me as admin every round
Naisu.
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>>173214595
>More people are calling me out on my gay shit
>Must be the same guy
Nice try homo but I'm not Bill.
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>>173214551
Why do we only get the worst parts of /tg/ instead of the genuinely interesting things they have?
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>>173214673
Because our coders are like flies, only the biggest steaming pile catches their attention.
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>>173214658
oh and apologyman
first round I get trapped in tunnels and they give me a chat hindering mutation
second I am making a ghetto dorm and they give me clumsiness
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>>173214538
Neither am I saltmiser
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>>173215225
Post logs
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>>173215225
[23:40:19]ADMIN: Kuranon/(Harvey Zadovsky) has toggled Ait's CLUMSY block on!

About that.
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>>173215303
>doesn't realise admins can scrub logs
Oh, honey...
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>>173215389
>admins griefing lowpop
Cool.
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>>173215575
am drunk

adminds shouldn't GRIF ever
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>>173215225
I just checked through admin logs all the way back to the 19th, apologyman and zealotron only used mutation block changes on themself for autistic shit like giving super farts to people. You're full of shit.
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>>173215715
apparenyladmins can scrub logs
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>>173215743
If apologyman didnt scrub logs of turning me into a clown goblin called abbo and throwing me at windows why would he bother scrubbing giving someone clumsy?
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>>173215715
Do you care to explain why I was mid-round unable to use a multitool on doors?
A bug?
How about starting with Unintelligable the previous round?
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>>173215929
Were you a bartend det or gray
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>>173215929
Did you ever think to yourself that maybe there are more than two admins in the game and that maybe one of the other 12+ admins fucked with you?
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>wake up
>more drama
excellent
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>>173215948
Bartender so I'll believe that lines up, but being unable to multitool seems off.

>>173215973
These are the ones that were online at the time (and ones that harassed me for ahelps).
I'm sure all of them are shit.
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>>173214658

what did you do for them to go full retard on you?
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>>173216047
Say what day it happened then and look it up in the logs then. It's that easy.
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>>173214162
No, it's not because cluster and pjb wont undo it and nobody else will go against it but pomf who would have to go and undo then redo everything attached to it since. Instead of, I dunno, the fucking maintainers not breaking the rules.
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>>173214062
Anyone?
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>>173216114
Only real transgressions: Space Drugs in cryomix because sitting in the pod is boring and pretty colours are nice (itching is cured by one of the other chems), accidentally leaving 5u plasma in it once (player spazzed and ahelped claiming it was lethal and intended to kill players).
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>>173216145
The vote was for attack animations originally in december. Intigracy shit his pants that not everyone loved it so he self merged it.
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/12678

The coders have fucked up numerous times on this issue and have yet to learn from any of them.
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>coders are still whining about the thread in their little tower
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>>173216236
Fuck off soudesuka.
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>>173216483

not sou, but you guys should talk it out instead of doing this to him on
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>>173216725
I already said, I went back up to the 19th of last month to see those two altering those blocks. The only person that touched clumsy was kuranon on a completely different person.
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>>173216435
>anon still whining about the tower in the thread

damn nigga can't escape the drama anywhere, I swear it's like on election night Americans started spamming Trump everywhere and even if it doesn't affect you now you gotta see fuckin Trump everywhere

That's what this shit is starting to feel like
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>>173217176
Election night was fun in the discord, mandalore gaming came in and everyone just kept on chanting it's happening.

One guy was mad and left after he took off his i'm with her shirt.
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>>173216974
I can assume it's a bug but I'm checking this round's logs anyways.

>>173216483
Just FYI, I've mixed cryo a total of two times, I generally just focus on pharmacy so while it may look like I knew what I was doing, that wasn't the case in that specific instance.
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>that round
wew
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are you proud, fellow greytides?
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somebody explain this to me
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>>173218532
>money hands, angry slots, sweet vacations
>hand theft?
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>we let a redditor take a place of power
what the fuck is wrong with all of you?
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>>173209240
>>173209090
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>>173206541
Probe you also lied to me, I'm nice enough to not post it on your feedback or to the thread but you don't belong as an admin if you're second guessing and actively working against the host and the head admin.

It's a shame too, you were a good admin once.
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>coders get cocky and take over project
>not even the owner dares to interfere
you're all cucks, holy shit
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*record scratch*
*freezeframe*
YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING HOW THINGS GOT THIS BAD
WELL IT ALL GOES BACK TO APRIL'S FIRST
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>>173219281
it was supposed to be funny AND useful, damnit!
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FREE KINGSTON
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>>173220493
kingston here by the way, i see drama in the thread, gimme the rundown boys and don't forget to free kingston as always
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>>173214368
>girl is fat
Every time.
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>no doc no sec lowpop murderbone
wew
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>>173216047
Those three have a greater chance at extra roundstart mutations because of their inherent mutations. As for the multitool thing, the only bit I can imagine that would prevent door multitooling would also prevent interacting with your booze vend.
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>>173220813
That was as assistant the next round.
Nothing in the logs so it just seems like a shitty bug.
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>>173220731
>ic in ooc

WEW
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>>173220892
don't even need to join the round to see what it is, dead giveaway on the manifest
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These are your enemies. They fight for sneakiness.
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>>173221429
>muh emojicracy
the dumbest shit every, ban all emojis
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>>173221728
Kill yourself Probe, before an anon does it for you.
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>>173221795
>probe
what?
fuck off redditor, emojis are cancer
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>>173221861
I agree with this poster. Emojis let all of the unimportant people show their opinions. We should remove emojis and trust the coders to improve the game.
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>>173221962
>all the unimportant people
which doesn't include players who don't visit github/discord and only this thread
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>>173210363
You're a retard.
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>when your waifu gives you the succ
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>>173200984
You shouldn't be fucking playing captain then.
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>every role has changed since I last played
>have to relearn everything
>can't learn on main server because people expect everyone to know everything and you can see their frustration when they realize you don't know something
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lolis when?
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>>173222536
download source, compile, host your own offline server, join your own game as admin, do anything and everything you want and learn at your own pace with nobody to bother you.

What's the problem? Takes like 5 minutes.
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>>173222605
it's not fun
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>>173222639
Then learn to not care about other peoples' expectations, or shut up and fuck off because those are your only two options if you're not willing to learn offline.
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How many people do you think pomf will strip of collab after all this?
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>>173223004
VGstation isn't real, they said
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What will their next mistake be.
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>it's a boring lowpop murderbone episode
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>>173222536
There were two /heads/ this last round that clearly didn't know things. As long as you're not a head you're doing better than they are.
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anyone know when baystation will stop being a military sim?
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>>173223724
Exodus was boring
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>>173223698
I play the 'easy' jobs but people still get pissed
>guy picks botanist
>instantly comes to roboticist to get into a mommi
>ok sure but I've only done this once
>WAAH , I'LL JUST DO IT MYSELF

fuck you mommi fags, I just want to make roombas
>>
I want to make Riekland my wife!
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>>173223804
I'm not really a fan of the 5 z level layout or military rp
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>>173223842
He wasn't being rude he was just autistic
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>>173223004
Why would you add a feature if nobody sees it?

How many people do you think actually know about parallax?


And more importantly; what even is the issue?
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>>173222236
>Minor inconvenience
>Station critical
Am I?
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>>173224547
>no power in the network
>minor inconvenience
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>>173224592
Yeah, it is. If you can't do swaps you should learn.
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>>173206814
Arithrazine is good but it isn't needed
i use it on extreme radiation cases, Hyronalin is enough to prevent the hive radiation because it acts slowly, plus it's cheaper to mass produce.
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>>173224637
It's fucking shitty when you have to swap 10 powercells because someone else won't do the bare minimum of their role, then you have to go across the station and it's pitch black and none of the equipment works
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>>173225286
Yeah it is, but that's life autismo. Polaris seems to be more your speed.
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>>173225368
It's actually against /vg/ rules to fuck off without setting up power in the engineer slot
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>>173225423
>/vg/
>rules
we're becomig TG, we dont need no rules
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>>173224401
>"Fuck attack animations they fucking suck"
>"What if we make it optional then?"
>"Alright fine"
Hmm yes I wonder why you stupid fuck. Kill yourself sonix
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>>173225423
Yeah, Sure. Just like it's against the rules be be a dick fucko. Guess you're up against the wall too! XDDD Let's propose a thought experiment.

They are a real living human being that has joined a, according to its toxic refugee infested populace, light RP server to have fun in their recreational time. It's apparently med-low pop because an entire server is apparently crippled both by the inability to do anything themselves while also having not taken said role but still feel like acting like over-entitled cunts. He sees or hears about a gateway and fucks off because as things often go, the shuttle is soon called and you miss out if you go do NPC bitch work you've done a thousand times. Shazam! It's like he never existed in the first place and you whiny cunts are still at the same place you were of doing nothing but bitching endlessly. Do it yourself or shut the fuck up and leave to polaris for your slice of you have to play exactly how *I* want you to play according to my specific desires you autistic piece of shit cause either way you still don't have power.
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lol
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>>173226196
oh boy I sure wonder what the response that will be
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>>173226074
Then don't take an engineer slot, this is not Polaris, this is /vg/
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>>173226801
Sure thing bartenderino! just keep crying into common. After all, you could have too but it's so, sooo much easier to just cry isn't it. As a doctor. As an officer. A scientist. A cargo tech. To just cry about power. Then you shout but it's not my job! when you're fully capable and know you're fully capable of doing it yourself. You're disgusting.
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>>173227007
I dont know how to do engineering.
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>>173227007
It's the rules hombre, as much as you want to cry that you have no responsibility, you do have ONE JOB as engineer and that is power
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>>173227007
>bartender setting up power in engineering
fuck off, this is the same as all the impatient autist doing everyone else's jobs because their adhd doesn't allow them to sit still for 2 minutes and let the other person do it for them
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>>173227082
Then it's a perfect time to learn. There's guides to hacking, wiring solars, the AME, and the TEG.

>>173227093
No, they're not. As long as he loosely follows anything in his description he's good to go. Polaris is that way.
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>>173227187
But I don't want to do engineering. I want to do Medbay and it's hard with no power. That's why it's upsetting if an engineer doesn't do their job, because it inhibits me.
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>>173227186
>Doesn't take the eng slot
>Cries about the engineer doing whatever he's doing
>Doesn't setup power himself
>One player should be jobbanned for this when the crime of being capable of but not setting up power is the same for both of them
What's it like having autism?

>>173227263
No, it doesn't because it's trivial to get a fat locker of cells and periodically bum them out. You can setup power yourself, you can go through the trivial task of cell swaps, or you can go be an autistic crybaby on polaris that someone isn't roleplaying to your high roleplay checklist.
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>>173227187
Actual admin rulings disagree with you
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>>173227385
We're med RP, and that requires doing your job. Go to hippie if you don't like it.
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>>173227385
so does that mean I can take roboticist and go make my little roombas all day, but if someone wants a mommi or an exosuit I can tell them to fuck off and do it themselves?
How stupid are you
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>>173227428
I really don't care what Rei thinks about jobs and an autistic eng main getting triggered is hardly surprising.

>>173227445
Now I wasn't there but there's a lot in a job. Not doing his job exactly how you want it doesn't warrant a jobban. If it does I'll enjoy sending you out the door as well over some insignificant thing someone throw and autistic fit over.

>>173227508
Yep.That's how it works.
Clearly less than you who thinks they're in polaris.
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>>173227385
>I can fully ignore my job because someone else can do it for me
Nigga
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>>173227595
I don't even know what polaris is, but I can also tell you don't know whst RP rules mean
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>>173227596
>There's no difference between both players not doing something they're able to do
Nigga. Cum on nigga.
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>>173227662
>still attempting to excuse not doing your job over someone else also not fixing the mess you made by not working
Nigga, step the fuck up.
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>>173227657
>Take engineer
>Do engineer stuff
>Get jobbanned because I don't engineer how some autist likes
>Meanwhile they just make excuses
What did he mean by this?
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>>173227595
>doing the bare minimum is now doing it exactly how someone else wants
I would be surprised if you found one admin who agreed with you that engineers do not have an obligation to at least attempt a power setup
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>>173227662
you're free to fuck off to whichever funserver you came from, and take your reddit friends with you
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>>173227595
>everyone can do anything so that means I don't need to do the job I signed up for
Then why the fuck even have jobs to begin with?

This isn't fucking goon, the rules require you to do the job you sign up for. If you don't like it then tough luck, go play assistant or fuck over to some other server if you're not actually going to take responsibility.
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>>173227595
Okay there's a difference between doing your job your way (doing solars instead of a main engine, or room a instead of borgs), and just fucking off to space and doing nothing.
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>>173227764
>take engineer role
>someone asks the power is fixed
>you, as an engineer who should be doing that, ignore it
>wonder why you're getting shit from people
kill yourself
I'm not replying to this bait anymore
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>>173227765
>>173227775
>>173227796
>Building a r-ust nets you a jobban
Good thing there's a clear line! Sure is fun when you end up trying to cut all the time you can cause the rounds keep ending too fast
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>>173227764
>do engineer stuff
Except you didn't.
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>>173227918
You're going into terminal shit posting
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>>173226049
at least you got the name right this time

I still don't see the issue. Opt-in or opt-out, they're still optional, are they not? What's wrong with giving some better visual feedback for new players?
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>>173228050
Not him but I dont like them on principle alone, every other server inevitably went down the shitter once they started with the "visual feedback" excuse to add these, ss13 is a less autistic dwarf fortress like game, start adding in more and more visual shit and you lose its complexity and autism.
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>>173227903
>No whitelist
>No certificates
>No accountability
>After 2 weeks anyone can be what the fuck ever they want
>Med-low pop especially things become more relaxed from understaffing
>No difference between one and any other person not doing thing beyond having the OOC knowledge to be able to
>Nobody listens when we fix stuff then the shuttle docks to a repaired station
>People don't stay in their bodies to be cloned then other retards cite the already left players as a reason
>People call for no reason because they want to reroll for antag or more valid to hunt
>Missing a limited time event for people who just fuck your shit up and bitch
>Risking not completing a project in time for people who just fuck your shit up and bitch
>People who didn't pick engineering yet feel that despite doing nothing about the situation feel they are entitled to weigh in on it while still doing nothing
Ya'll just throwing a childish fit. You got hands, use em to do it yourself or swap your cells. Crying about "no power" is just sign that you're an immature child too lazy to wipe their own ass.

>>173227929
I already said I wasn't there. Most of the jobban eng shitposting boils down to vindictive crybabies trying to ban someone while doing nothing themselves.

>>173227998
More like you idiots are.
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>>173158992
how do I install byond and ss13 on linux? I tried winetricks but it isn't work (I tried do this on ubuntu, now i use arch). Should I use virtual box? %%sorry for my bad english%%
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>>173228371
Don't play engineer if you won't set up power, that is a very simple concept
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>>173228656
Do it yourself if you're oh so concerned about power while entirely incapable of picking engineer or even handling your departments apc's. It's a very simple solution. It's station engineer not [Setup Power] no matter how badly you want to redefine it into that.
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>>173228371
it has nothing to do with being lazy, it's the fact that it's medium RP and when I play the fucking game I want to play it with other fucking people and make the station work together, not jerk off alone in my own little corner, crafting whatever shit that I am and posting it in this thread to get non-existant virtual upvotes.
>LOOK GUYS, I DIDN'T DO MY JOB THIS WHOLE ROUND AND INSTEAD BUILT THIS BAR IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN SPACE, HOW FUCKING COOL IS THAT
go fuck yourself
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>>173228865
>It's okay for me, not for them
Go fuck yourself. They already don't exist as far as you're concerned.
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>jobban for engis for no power
>no jobban for chemists for fucking around with memepills while fridge is empty and for no cryomix before 12:10
E Q U A L I T Y
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>>173228853
Galavant all you want, I'm just repeating the admin ruling on this already covered to death topic
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>>173228960
"Ruling". In practice it doesn't exist and any week of space proves it. Flee to appealing to "authority" all you want to hide your laziness and incompetence. We both know how disgusting you are to not do something then want to jobban someone.
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>>173228528
doesn't byond have a native linux client, what are you on about

>>173228936
what the fuck does that even mean? If you want to make meme material for your retarded screenshots then take a job with no responsibilities and go bother someone for full access, or just fucking break in, as in, do it your-fucking-self
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>>173229049
It means you're both entirely capable of doing it, yet you don't want to ban yourself? Keep making pathetic excuses.
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>>173229042
Is there a jobban request up? Or are you just making more shit up as you go along
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>>173228941
When nuke was an admin it was easy to snipe people for that just like you can nail engineers when probe/dragonbro are on. Turns out if you trigger an autistic admin over their ex-job it's really easy to get people banned.

>>173229160
You're the ones crying for jobbans while doing nothing.
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>>173229207
I'm telling you how the server works you sperg, regardless of how you insist it does according to you - if you pull that shit one too many times you will actually get banned
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>>173229338
I'm telling you how it doesn't because you guys are always crying about something and the vast majority of the time nothing happens because the "ruling" is just that.
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>>173229207
if I was an admin, I would probably ban 90% of the server from chemistry
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this is only proof of what this server is turning into, good job
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>late join engineer
>power is starting to fail
>people screaming over comms
>don't realize I just joined
>set up AME and the SMES
>wire all the solars while the crew is screaming
>captain threatening execution
>finish wiring the solars, go to engineering to check the power monitor
>captain runs into engineering
>kills me
>clones me
>demotes me
Engineering is such a fulfilling job.
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>>173229401
Thanks Mr. Polaris. Your hard work would be appreciated.
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>>173229385
Okay, fair warning was given
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>>173228308
I mean, yeah, but is that necessarily a bad thing?
It's kinda the same as when I added that sound to the positronic brain start-up. That was widely regarded as a positive change, even though that's more feedback.
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give me code ideas
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>>173229441
did you ever say that you only just joined and that you're working on it?
did you ahelp that captain?
did you ever realise setting up singo is much faster than any of your current methods and can be used to power the station until you get a safer source going?
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>>173229693
paint buckets applied to slime person changes slime colour
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>>173229441
>ahelp it
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@173229705

>setting up a singulo with no power for barriers
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>>173229740
there are paint buckets?
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>>173229693
Make all the igniter assembly combinations and add them to the contraband list. Making a ton of metal foam or repressurization grenades is an ulcer

>>173229813
Yeah, arts and crafts crate. Medbay loves it!
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>>173229796
>only said power was failing, not flat-out depleted
>go over to the APC
>unlock it
>turn equipment back on
>oh look at that, emitters work
albeit you're on a time limit but a singo can get going in a minute or so if you don't lag
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>>173229920
>He doesn't know
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>>173229920
Emitters don't go off of APC power last I checked.
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>>173229558
Yes sonix, it is a awful thing. Remove the autism and complexity from ss13 and you get a subpar game that nobody would play since its a gutted version of its former glory, a husk, empty of all the qualities we love about ss13, its autistic nature, stupid silly situations, its complicated systems, start removing the autism from a autistic game and you set yourself down a path of TG, and do we want to be TG, with a codebase that panders to casuals and validhunters, the kind of guys that removed roundstart singulos for being too effective at antagonizing? Regarding the other topic, audio feedback is so minor that it barely does anything, but you start adding in more and more graphical detail to ss13 and you inherently lower its potential, I facepalm at people who say that ss13 should be isometric, 3d or have shit like walking animations because I know that it would do nothing but make developing it much much harder and lower its autistic nature by making it much, much more approachable. I can see why you don't understand this, but think about this, if dwarf fortress had rimworld graphics, do you think it could have ever become as amazingly autistic and deep as it is now?
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>>173229987
Containment fields hate this! Click here to find out what!
When grid dies they die
Shutting off collectors and the smes or snipping the wires under the doors and scooting is one way to loose
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>>173229705
>>173229782
>admin pm: This seems like an IC issue
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>>173230120
Every fucking time
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>>173229984
>>173229987
if thats the case then just use the PACMAN generators
you know, those things that never get used to fix this exact problem
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>>173230424
Never indeed
They make very nice backup plasma, though, in case chemistry "somehow" "lost" it.
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>>173230424
Yeah. Most people don't even know what they are or how to use them if they don't just give up outright.
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>>173229693
NEW ARENAS
THAT AREN'T BOMBERMAN
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>>173229693
Automated THUNDERDOME system like bomberman does
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>>173230624
Like?

>>173229693
>>173230660
This, fix the verbs used to grab people to thunderdome and do all the thunderdome shit.
I don't remember if the entertainment screen cameras are still links or in the bar on all maps too
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>>173229995
Autistically complex games like dorf fort usually only look like ass because there's too much complexity and autism for a single autist to visualize logically.

I understand that casualizing SS13 down to TG levels if not worse would be a bad thing. I like how complex our code is right now, and how many obvious and obscure features we have.

However, I don't think something as simple as an animation when someone attacks (or walks) is in any way casual; it's instant feedback that actually *helps* our high octane bullshit gameplay style. Not to mention it helps newfags figure out what the fuck is going on when they toolbox themselves or medkit someone half to death.

I dunno, man, it seems like such a minor thing to me. I don't see it as the first step down the slippery slope to casual-town.
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>>173230889
I'm going to miss the medkit assaults
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>>173230747
Instagib rifle mode with randomly generated flipped tables and walls

thunderdome with random set loadouts

big highlander box

Mecha Team deathmatch

tank minigame
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>>173230624
>>173230660
>>173230747
Constant arenas going automatically on z2 would be fucking sweet, along with Thunderdome.
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>>173230889
You can think its nothing but minor visual aid all youd like sonix, its clear I can't change your mind, I just hope Im wrong for everyone sake. Oh also, fix your drag damage pr to not make people bleed out when someone inevitably drags them, if your intention was to make people not clone but everyone just drags people to medbay instead of pulling, you do nothing but make docs clone due to massive blood loss.
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How to quickly set up SME?
its literally the only engine I dont know how to do
the R-UST doesn't count
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>>173231136
>Smack someone
>If they fall, they're FUCKED by the drag damage and smashing
>Also works if you just stun prod then toolbox drag them
I dunno, I kind of like basically destroying sec when they slip on water.
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>>173231136
There's a PR up for it but one of the coders is trying to get me to goodcode in very roundabout ways so i have no idea what i'm supposed to do to make it better

doctors should get used to using bodybags / roller beds / yellow intent, no way around that

speedclone nerf soon stalker

>>173231210
they deserve it for getting slipped on water
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>>173229693
Port tg slime race
Port tg advanced plasma cutters
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>>173231178
>Put plasma in the teg cold loop
>Connect the H/E stubs to the freezer
>Put a pump into the freezers
>Turn off the chamber scrubbers, vent and vent siphon
>Drag the SME box in
>Pump in 2-3 Nitrogen canisters and one oxygen canister
>Turn on the freezers
>Go grab a portable air pump and flip the pump on the teg cold loop
>Pump the now cold plasma into the pump
>Scrub some plasma tanks
>Fill the 1 or 2 you got
>Put them in the rad collectors
>Turn the emitters on to open the sme
>Multitool the collector, once it starts making power turn the emitters off
>Runs itself
>Add more N2 as needed if it starts warming up
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Reminder that the best builders are assistants who gather tools and materials themselves instead of wasting an engineering or mechanic slot.
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>>173231360
>tg slime race
fuck no
>tg advanced plasma cutter
fuck yes
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>>173231349
So what's the justification for keeping people out of the round longer when medbay is incompetent as they often are? Check your autism at the door, you aren't helping.
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RAD AS FUCK ARENAS:
>Random loadout Thunderdome
>Esword + Thunderdome gear arena
>Chess
>Instagib arena (Some new instagib rifle + HFblade on back slot)
>Fists only rage cage that gibs you if you use disarm or grab intent
>Combat mech duels
Put the TV cameras in each one, and also give a name select prompt similar to silicons, clowns, and mimes when you spawn in.
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>>173231349
Docs aren't the ones dragging bodies to medbay and you know that parameds arent even that plentiful sonix. Nobody is going to slowly grab someone and walk there, they will pull, your vision of hardcore medbay or not, nobody is going to do it. Also, touch speedcloning and I will shit fire like I ate sulphur for breakfast, don't nerf medbay cloning, you will do nothing but anger people and the results from nerfing cloning will be much much worse than what you think they will be.
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>>173231546
Chess is in the holodeck
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>>173231610
So is a Thunderdome and rage cage. The point is for ghosts to have something to do when they die that's not crying like a bitch in chat, being a mouse and dying to the new hunger system, and being a derelict MoMMI.
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>>173231570
He's already taken the coder pill. I hope for your sake you have practice using github.
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>>173231178
On box?

Just multitool the inner chamber vents to reset them, deactivate them on air alarm so they can be unwrenched, unwrench them, RPD like 3 or 4 segments of HE pipes in their place that connects to the north pipes that lead to the freezers.

Now replace the insulated pipe segment below the easternmost freezer with a 4-way insulated pipe, and add horizontal insulated pipes towards the east off of it, replacing the easternmost connector segment so that the piping from the freezers connects to the piping that leads to the HE pipes that are already out in space.

Now just wrench a plasma canister onto the remaining connector in the northeasternmost corner of the room, put the supermatter shard in the central chamber, and start up the emitters.

Finally, fill the collectors with plasma tanks. Bonus points for filling the plasma tanks to full first, but it isn't required unless you want to not have to return for maintenance if the round lasts longer than an hour.

ignore >>173231432 , that's a lot of unnecessary steps and bullshit that doesn't actually help.
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>>173231670
Oh I see what you mean sorry
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>>173231713
thanks
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>>173231546
Hello Slammo
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>>173231546
>Mech duels have a setup time that allow you to customize the mech loadout
>Cruel Angel's Thesis plays in the background
You could have a mech class vote thing that works like the holodeck thunderdome's ready buttons so you could have the different tiers fighting each other instead of phazons and seraphs every round.
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why aren't people using like chemical implants with 50u DD or some shit, it sounds like a genius idea to me
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>>173232456
They're better patrolling with you.A healing implant isn't gonna help against sustained damage in anything but two items and even then you'll still be overwhelmed without rapid regeneration and the stun clear ability. You can also keep a pocket pill bottle and slam when you get the heebie jeebies or after you take cover
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>>173232456
>>173232742
Furthermore, just take a creatine. The additional health will bail you out.
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>>173231524
Play medbay then if you're so great.

>>173231570
Like I said, doctors in medbay should get used to it.

And I'm going to touch cloning whether you like it or not. One minute for a cloning cycle isn't a big deal.
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>>173233078
So what about all the time i'm not there then autismo? We don't need the old wild rides back.
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>>173233078
Kind moron, take a player pill instead of a coder pill and realize that medbay has only one bloodbag per blood type and that nobody is going to fucking waste 12 50 iron pills just to get 3 nerds to decent blood, medbay will clone or just shove a brain in a different body, you will do nothing but make the already wild ride much fucking worse because you think like a coder instead of like a player, chill with the inflated ego and think like a player fucko, you will do nothing but make everything worse with your intention to make shit "hardcore". Do I need to fucking steal cloner parts roundstart and make a extra cloning bay just so your stupid medbay autism is sated, just so "death is more meaningfull" and people take forever to be fixed by a feature you re-added in without thinking about its actual aplication and its issues? Come the fuck on sonix.
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>>173233078
then what's the point of two actually three cryo tubes in med you dumbass if cloning takes longer time than cryo
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>>173233412
I dunno why he doesn't see it. In theory dragging bodies works, but not in practice. Also, I have no problem with a cloning nerd, but when cloning is one of The few viable options besides pumping iron into a dude, its an issue to have it gone.
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>>173233412
Oh he's thought about it he just doesn't care about the people that will get fucked over. Just like every other time this comes up. Die? Know what really helps them stay in their body instead of immediately going diona/posi or just server hopping? Waiting even longer!
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>>173233698
When you take the coder pill too long you start obsessing over what you can do and not if you should.
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>>173233796
Why can't you talk normal instead of talking about coder pills. You lose credibility when your meme words
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>>173233983
You're arguing with /pol/
don't do that
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>>173233983
>Ignore the substance and redirect
Just like a coder. You need to take some time off and play more so you remember what it's like and how often things go to shit.
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>>173234136
I agree that the situation dumb, but I think Sonix is a good guy and wants what he thinks is best. I just don't understand his vision, and it creates issues. There is your substance.
>>173234024
Not everything is /pol/
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>>173234364
if it argues like boat peo/pol/ and acts like boat peo/pol/, it's probably a boat /pol/ack
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>>173234439
/Pol/'s a shithole and I don't go there. Disbelieve that if it makes you feel better, I can't stop you.
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>>173234136
>coders don't play meme
I wish i could play more anon, but between work and sleeping there's not enough time to code and play. I just play one round then go back coding because it takes a lot of time and debugging and asking people for feedback and then i get stuck, i log in, observe a few rounds, talk with bored ghosts and taunt admins do spawn shit over dead chat while thinking about what's wrong with my code.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like coders don't want to play, but unless you're doing something trivial, it take a lot of time, even more if you're a beginner.
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>>173234586
>/Pol/ is a shithole
t.commie
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>>173234814
You have to go back.
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>>173234780
"Play more, code less" is what players want anon, if you code without having a mentality of whats right to actually code and know what players will do with your additions, you just add bad shit that harms more than it helps, you help everyone out by coding but you have to understand why people hate coders when they add stuff that time and time again does not work in a player environment. I get that you just want to help, but if you don't play enough, you will end up making code for shit that isn't practical and end up changing balance for shit you shouldn't, its like nerfing speedclone, coders spring to the "its bad design" train every damn time but ss13 is badly designed at its core, its what makes it good.
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>>173234780
When you get out of touch you make poor decisions then you go full autist with shit like "And I'm going to touch cloning whether you like it or not."
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>>173235089
this
I don't see anyone complaining about the speed of new features being added, the "[obscure feature] when?" doesn't count.
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>>173235306
>implyign cloning shouldn't be touched
literally kill speedcloning
If it means medbay is only filled with masochistic autists like me afterwards, all the better. Everyone else can go fuck themselves and just wait instead of being ADD little bitchbabies who can't wait five minutes.
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>>173233165
So teach them how.

>>173233412
Order more bloodbags.
Order a Dr. Acula or two.
Drain monkeys.
Drain cloned corpses.
Gives medbay to do during downtime.

Bloodloss is getting nerfed anyway, shouldn't be too much of a hassle in the near future.

Reduce your useless 'me tarzan u jane u think tarzan not jane' blurb or i won't bother reading your posts anymore

>>173233691
'Speed' cloning will still be possible, just not as turbospeedy as right now. And you can use the tubes for more than just post-cloning, y'know.
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>>173235701
>you can use the tubes for more than post cloning

Give me your fucking name you little shit. I fucking supported you, but what you've just said is haram to the fucking max.
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>>173235701
>And you can use the tubes for more than just post-cloning, y'know.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173235838
>>173235915
you literally can
you don't have to
i'm just saying that it's a possibility
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>>173235572
The player being out of the round longer serves no purpose. It's a stupid thing to do. They're only showing up at medbay if they fucked themselves up. Everyone else is spaced naked or destroyed in the majority of cases.

>>173235701
It doesn't solve the problem of talking longer for no benefit and it further burdens an already strained medbay when it's poorly staffed and has to fight with a poorly staffed or unstaffed and inattentive silicons to do that not to mention the headache of getting an acula and people to actually use it.

Randomized
Unless it was reverted, once they're dead they lose all their blood because SOMEBODY decided viro needed to be more "hardcore"

Medbay doesn't have downtime. It has nothing into wild ride into get on the shuttle

It's more shit for no benefit in an already bad situation.
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>>173235572
>only me and 3 more people who hate themselves should be able to tolerate playing medbay if it means that players die for over 4 minutes minimum, the wild ride takes forever and if reasonable cloning is removed in exchange for pleasing people who take 40 minutes to surgically repair someone from "jesus fuck clone me you sick time wasting autist" to "we could have clones and taken much, much less time"
>>173235701
>dude just order like 5 times more bloodbags so my feature can be balanced
>dude, go order stuff so my feature can be balanced
>dude, go the extra mile and do a needless task to make my feature balanced
>dude, just go and do yet another task so my feature is minimaly balanced, what are you a scrub
>dude, more useless tasks for medbay to do when they don't have to fix everyone up, medbay never gets rides and totaly isn't undermanned most of the time, just go and do everything I just said so my feature is balanced
>dude, my feature is going to get itself a pr just to make it balanced, you are a retard, Im not going to listen to you anymore, you can't possibly have any reason

Sonix, what the fuck happened to you. No, really, what the fuck happened to you.
>>173235838
SonixApache, turncoat extraordinaire.
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>>173236029
you can fill it with vodka and space drugs too
but what's the point?
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>>173236107
Some people like to be fixed up
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>>173236107
You can't give a robo-chest, robo- groin, robo-head and MaMMI's are uncommon in the science meta to the point that it's more reliable to just headswap.
So even if you push for cloning is a last resort autism one misguided idea at a time, many patients that wash up simply can't be because their irreplaceable parts are already over 200 damage. The whole thing is silly.
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>people don't play medbay
>they want to change it to be even worse

just fucking let medbay be how it is you autistic fucks
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>>173236201
You ever try to bring someone up from 10% blood? Because thats what happens when you get dragged from sadistic sonix sonic speed drag racing.
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>>173236201
>we are going to nerf cloning because some lone autist likes to be touched in weird places and has surgery fetish

k.
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>>173236283
Didn't stop them from making blood disappear to stop people from not having to throw the chem dispenser at their viro monkey just to get antibodies.
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>haunt me for 15 minutes to find your body
>almost die recovering it
>never return to your body on the DNA scanner
Bruh please
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>>173236201
Almost nobody does, don't inflate the player amount just because you also like it. It also is no fucking excuse to nerf cloning or in any way change medbay, at most, ask in looc to be fixed manually or ask space jesus to tell them to fix you if you get your dick hard over waiting 30 minutes for a slow as fuck surgical nightmare.
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>>173236378
They know it takes too long so they just server hop or diona/posi. It's disgusting. There was a time I jetpacked through space looking for victims and 99.99% of the time it was MI failures
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>>173236068
slip people in the hallways, make akula feed on them
blow borgs that drag wounded people
randomized? blood types on monkeys? it's still blood, might not be the type you need but it's a chance at least
still waiting on that PR to pass, it'll make it so brute damage doesn't cause drag damage anymore (instead, they need to be bleeding or have broken bones)
medbay rarely has downtime, that is true

>>173236107
i told you that i would not read your posts anymore, so have fun

>>173236126
Gets people super fucking wasted for a third or less of the price?
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>>173236201
And those people can ask for it then learn why many people don't like to listen to podcasts while they get fingered for 20+ minutes. Fucking over everybody isn't acceptable.
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>Coders want to make emergency lockers to be wrenched down so people have to use memebeds

Just how out of touch are these people?
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>>173236338
>>173236349
I'd be okay with harmdrag revert
I didn't read your walls of text, the chain seemed boring
Some people like the RP though and it's been said many times over
Unrelated to whatever balance changes, just popping everyone in for a speed clone is a cop out.
That said 40 minutes means that surgeon doesn't know what he's doing and needs more experience before wasting someones time like that
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>>173236448
>30 minutes
>40 minutes
>bitching about people exaggerating when you're exaggerating
Nigger it literally takes maybe 5 minutes maximum to do surgery even with basic tools, fill you up with a bloodbag and defib you back to life. Stop boohooing just because you might have to wait an extra 2 minutes to get back to toolboxing people out of the round.
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>>173236613
>okay with a harmdrag revert
"no"
Harmdrag is one of the best things to happen to med in a long time, it seperates the impatient retards who shouldn't be playing MD or trying to give medical treatment from the intelligent people.
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>>173236717
Im just gonna toolbox them instead of wasting 10 minutes with bloodbags
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>>173236816
i'm just gonna toolbox you and use your blood for the patients
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>>173236547
>If I shove my head in the sand the guy don't have a point!
Nice

Yes, grief people to make your idea acceptable. Clearly a solution
Murdering borgs is clearly a solution
They're randomized and you should know that already. Meanwhile genetics and viro needs theirs making it a dick move to wipe all of theirs out for blood.
It's still very easy to cause bleeds and whatever gave them said bleeds can easily keep fucking them up while the blood loss guarantees that even if they do get up they'll be slow and about 1/4th closer to crit than otherwise.

>>173236625
Alright hotshot, His blood bad and the O- blood bag are done and there's 3 other people that are fucked. Your move
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>>173236625
Experienced it myself, Im not exaggerating since I know that most docs are shit tier and take forever, you are trusting a complete overhaul of medbay on the absolute best medbay has, what will happen when the newbies come around and take forever with your corpse, when they defib you 12 times when you have 0 blood and don't scan you. What then anon, you can accuse me of being a validhunter but I don't even have antag roles on, haven't for a good ammount of time, go ahead and strawman if it makes you feel better.
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>>173236572
stop spreading shit you memelover fuckwit
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>>173236876
Chloral hypospray senpai.
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>>173236625
You really need to play more about the cases we're talking about. Sub 50% blood and/or numerous broken bones and it's just wasting the patients time. God help them if nobody med pda'd got the upgraded surgical tools.
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>>173236883
i'm not going to read your posts if it's just blabbering on about coder hate, turncoating or using that gay-ass fallacy format
rewrite your shit to something readable

>>173237028
you can't chloral if you're already chloralled
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>>173236816
>>173236876
This. Fuck with my patients and you lose all rights to be in the round, I will literally chloral you, feed you 200u sleeptox, and hook you up to an IV set to succ while keeping you alive enough to keep farming your blood.

>>173236883
>3 other people
>implyign i haven't already given them all IVs with the appropriate blood + plenty of dex+
Just because you are a lazy shitstain who doesn't put in a modicum of effort doesn't mean other people. It takes maybe a minute to go to cargo, order iron for more IVs and four dirt-cheap bloodbag crates.
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>>173237035
No dude there are 20+ players on at all time. There will be a full medbay staff with upgrades tools at all time. Trust me im a coder
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>>173236915
Christ this is retarded. Both of that is just so fucking stupid. This is where vgstation has reached. Drags kill people so make lockers fucking anchored or throw rollerbeds in everything.
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>>173237115
If I see a poor faggot with 30% blood hes getting toolboxed to save his and everyone elses time.

Same cure for spiritbreaker.
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>>173237157
One (1) competent doctor is enough to handle lowpop medbay.

>>173237191
pic related
can you not shitpost as if everything that's said in the discord is serious

because it's not
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>>173237112
In the same time you typed that you could have read it and addressed its substance instead of being a child.
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Why did we get a player poll for something dumb like trader anatgs but not for a huge thing like drag damage
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>>173237191
Nobody is going to make lockers anchored
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>>173237254
And as I said, the second you start toolboxing my patients is the second you are no longer awake, you fucking autismo.
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>>173237289
In the same time you typed that you could have rewritten your post to not be shit instead of being a child.

>>173237301
Apparently it was polled ingame with overwhelming positive support, same for the github. Ask the mins to throw up a poll (after that next tweak is merged)
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>>173237281
>>173237320
Even as a "joke" that's sickening.

>>173237328
Say hi to Petnavi some time.
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>>173237328
Youve never actually played medbay have you?
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>>173237405
I literally main med you faggot.

>>173237385
>chloraling someone who's killing people in med is petnavi behavior
You're kidding me right?
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>>173237372
It wasn't mine.
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>>173237385
it's a joke
calm your autistits

>>173237473
i figured as i was writing the reply, oh well
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>>173237372
>We're making more tweaks to make it harder to revert goyim!

Im tattling to the chicken
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>>173237470
>Misguided chloal use isn't

>>173237510
You guys have been having a lot of funny "jokes" lately.

>>173237524
Short of a purge pomf can't do anything. History just keeps repeating.
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why the fuck sec has access to medbay from morgue side but not from other doors? what's the point of entering medbay from morgue, either remove their morgue access or give them full med access
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>>173237112
I am the one who called you a fucking turncoat, not him you stuck up faggot. You new to 4chan or something, it clearly wasn't me, if you want me to be reasonable, stop refusing every single feedback on it with ideas of a hardcore medbay that doesn't exist, telling people to do 7 different things they never had to so your system is even practical to the average player, fuck me man, you even have >>173236915, fucking coders who legitimately though about adding in roller beds in every single locker out there, just to make "your" feature even slightly balanced since blood loss is fucking stupid. Good lord sonix, you used to be a good dude, but your head got stuck up your ass regarding this system when players have repeatedly told you its terrible and ironically enough, does nothing but encourage speedcloning when you though you were hardcore and look where that lead us to. You want player feedback on your feature, or do you want to keep thinking your feature is perfect and that everyone who complains about it is a detestable strawman sonix? Because almost everyone knows that its a failed feature and that medbay will just clone instead of taking forever, you want to further fuck up medbay and make it so cloning is now fucked so your feature is taken seriously? Is that how far you need it to go, ruining a perfectly working system so your badly implemented and unbalanced feature can stay?

Sonix, stop. This was a mistake, a massive, awfull mistake that does the exact opposite of what it was designed to, infuriates medbay, infuriates players and honestly, paints you as a arogant turncoat who wont listen to the people who play the damn game and would rather jerk off with coders. Most coders are alright, you used to be alright, but this shit puts you up in the podium with cluster and pjb, minus the actual coding skill.
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>>173237667
Autopsies
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>>173237659
>>misguided
There's nothing misguided about chloraling shitters and using them as blood farms.
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>>173237667
Autopsies and fingerfucks
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>>173237714
>>173237762
I understand morgue access, but why door from morgue to med? Makes no sense to me.
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>>173237738
30% blood is a mercy kill. Don't waste resources.
I like your style though. bottle of 700u stoxin if nobody's dying early is my waifu
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>>173237738
You know people have been banned for taking people out of the game with their surgery fetishes right?
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>>173237860
Point me to the ban then senpai.
Go ahead, I'm waiting.
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>>173237853
Reibay and growing up in the public education system. If you mean another map then I guess copy/pasting the door I dunno.
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>>173237923
Dragonbro
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>>173237705
It's okay, calm down my dude. Have you ever heard about the tragedy of Darth Leroy_Lightyear the infallible? Sonix truly is his apprentice.
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>>173237959
>posts a name
>none of dragonbro's bans have been for "doing surgery instead of ebin speedcloning"

hmmm
I'm beginning to think you're bullshitting.
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>>173238330
I dunno if you're aware, but when bans expire or are appealed they're off the list unless you're an admin who can dig through ban records.

Someone who could pull and search the admin logs wouldn't be asking for it but it's happened a couple times then the doc was just jerking off with the patient for ages instead of just cloning them.
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>>173238330
He actually got deadminned and banned for chopping off someones hand since at the time, chopping and reataching was quicker at fixing it or someshit, he chopped the wrong one, person got up, killed dragonbro, the surgeon, dragon pmed him about him being a nigger and killing without saying "hey doc, wrong hand", deadmin and ban ensues
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>>173238579
To clarify, he was deadminned for handling his own business.
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>>173238503
>>173238579
hmmm
so what you're saying is, people have been banned for being shit at surgery?
maybe they shouldn't be playing med, then.
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>>173237524
open smartgit
right click on first drag damage PR
click reset

stage and commit mob.dm and living.dm

pretty sure i've only touched those two files thus far

>>173237659
thanks, we might quit our day job of coding for /vg/ in favor of stand-up comedy
the pay would be about the same
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>>173239221
It's not a job, it's voluntary work
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>>173239301
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>>173239054
>>173238579

after handling his own ahelp he used build mode to repeatedly throw his head against a wall till someone took notice
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>smartgit
lmao
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Item animations are the ones where the icon of the item pops up when placed into a machine/computer, yeah? For one thing, they look really dumb, out of place and like they belong in a mobile game, but I guess that's subjective.

My issue is they give information you would only be able to see if either the item placed had a big inhand sprite, or you managed to examine just before the item was placed. I know there's very few situations where knowing exactly which item was placed in a machine/computer matters, but the player has to be aware/perceptive to see it. If you were looking elsewhere while someone places a beaker in a chemdisp, you would not notice, but with animations, you can't not notice.

And from an in universe sense, I'd argue I wouldn't know exactly what someone puts in a machine/computer unless I specifically looked at the item. In real life I doubt I'd be able to see the colour of an ID card placed into a computer unless I was looking at the card as it went in. This is something represented in the game already by using examine. Item animations are equivalent to a speaker shouting, "HE PUT THE CAPTAIN'S SPARE INTO THE COMPUTER" in real life. There's no room for failure.

I know those examples are obtuse, but having to be perceptive, concentrated or maybe even lucky to pick up on things that other might not is something that is core to SS13. Animations kill that and puts everyone on the same level while looking fucking dumb. This doesn't even touch on the issue of this being an "optional feature" while giving an (admittedly slight) advantage to those with it enabled in some circumstances.
>There's nothing unfair about missing out on information due to your own choice to turn a feature off
Is complete bullshit, it's not really optional when it gives an advantage, and the fact that it's supposed to be optional is how it got merged in the first place. Apologies for rambling.

Progress bars have the same issues, fight me
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>>173240818
tl;dr "Item animations should use in-hand sprites, not item sprites"

post it on github
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New thread

>>173240939
>>173240939
>>173240939
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