/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

half the people who have been sec this week need to be job banned.

>>173075090
i killed one wizard as hop and i havent played in 4 months

>>173075156
>hop
>sec

fuck yourself

>>173075234
i didndu nuffin he ran up on me n shiet

Say
Something
Nice

sixth for Ailsa is a slut and is open for ERP at all times
they can be reached via their ckey at _riekland where you can bully them to suicide so they don't fucking infest our server
remind them that gays are NOT WELCOME

Jidders is active for hours a day on the discord
Jidders logged in 5 times in the past month
Jidders has adminned 3 times in the past month
Jidders is admin.

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This is Ashe Meowllery

I CAN'T CONNECT

Why is everything going to hell

>>173081008
Welcome to VG station

>>173081008
influx of terrible sec players brought on as an overeaction to the april's fools joke and the fact the admins let the sec during that ship off half the crew (as clowns) to a lethal enviroment as non-antags showing they clearly do not care about the rules anymore

>>173081376
And the best part? Centcomm never responded to the IAA's fax about it when there was an admin online.

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I am angry. Angry about chickens.

>>173081376
>>173081140
No I meant lately, why is everyone screaming in the thread more than usual and complaining about pomf. The reaction to the attack animations was justified although still an overreaction.

>>173082089
I'm just memeing, I love pomf.

no homo

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>>173081008
>Banned TG refugees come to /vg/station because it's not Bay or Hippie
>Whilst youtubers and streamers are making videos on SS13's very own /vg/station that reaches views in the tens of thousands

>Probe wont put up the bunker because 'I know best, there's no porblem, reee thread shitposters'

>TG players start to outnumber /vg/players
>TG players miss their old code and start trying to get it ported to /vg/station successfully whilst ousting any old gaurd /vg/ players who'd tell them that their features are rightfully shit
>/vg/ players get tired of the shit and leave
>Probe replaces them with more 'new' players who ahelp how to table climb because '/vg/station is more popular than ever it's okay - let me just advertise the server again real quick'

>Now following in the footsteps of TG but with none of the infrastructure (a host that isn't an attention whoring injun who spends two days a year on 4chan and an admin team that isn't 50% banned players)
>Probe wants to distance more anyway from 4chan even though it's the vocal TG shitters who shitpost hating old /vg/ that are getting to him,that he let in
>and he's too stupid to realise it

pretty much

>>173082181
give probe some credit, he listens to the thread more than pain

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>>173082089
Probably this

>>173082089
pomf has been showing up to basically whine recently even though his server is being paid for by other people and they're counting on him to actually make things not crap
admins are often not online at all, are doing a terrible job of being admins, added prayermins which were fucking retarded, added attack animations and just shut down all counters with ''lel ur a troll'', ''the thread doesn't matter'' and even just straight up closing the thread on the github
as a result of these things the game has been full of total asshole players getting away with things they just should not. the sec issue with the clowns and killing asimov borgs for obeying their laws wasn't just 1 bad round; its basically all of them. our sec is getting away with absurd levels of bullshit for no reason and its making the game less fun

its a combination of crap where the people you expect to fix it just ignore it or actively make it worse.

>>173082181
I was present for all this. I was referring to why everyone was suddenly screaming and shouting incoherently for some reason other than the sneaky beaky attack animations ""april fools"" PR when it didn't seem that way two or so days ago.

>>173082384
o fug
>>173082498
I was only keeping up with the ingame stuff from the github and thread I had no idea it was this bad.

where do you see /vg/ in 2 months, I'm wondering if it's worth coming back or just forgetting about this place

reminder that lifeweb is a superior game

>>173083050
its never open when im actually able to game ;_;
i want to play a qt twink and drop soap

>>173082828
We are going down the way of TG.

You folks didn't believe us when we said attack animations would let casuals in and that the purge was the beginning of the end, now deal with it. Congratulations.

>>173083202
friday to sunday

>>173083537
don't worry, I'll make VG great again
next up is the chat wheel

>see an admin in chat
>think holy shit we actually have an admin
>remember i actually joined tg instead of vg because vg has been so bad recently tg is actually better

feels bad desu

>>173082384
pomf is native too, my brotha!
too bad he's an american native, they have it bad.

Ok Randy, I am not here to treath your life or anything at all. I am here because you "fucked up" You ruined not only mine but hundreds of peoples time on your server (some have reasons why they are banned I am not saying everyone should be unbanned. Fuck no) If you had listen to the community you would never had to private your sub reddit and you would have never gotten forced off of ss13 sub reddit too. I decided to change. And I ain't gona be putting up with shit like this for the rest of my days until this damn computer fucks me sideways and proceeds to not work anymore. All I am saying is this. You "fucked up" You may think this may just be one guy saying this and you may be right on so many levels, but you "fucked up" there all in quotes for a reason. All I am going to say is this. If I do get a chance to get unbanned and a chance to not fuck up again this time I will take it seriously this time. I know I have been banned from the discord since day one but I know that and you know that too. Its best to take whatever I am saying here with a pinch of salt. If you wish for me to settle it and we can just get this shit done and out of the way than I would be very happy to do so. If you want me to talk at the discord for at least a minute so we can settle the reason why I was banned for no context than fine. After that I will leave and never come back to this place knowing I am not accepted here. I will just be roaming in lifeweb. Not fucking up again and just playing a simple game. Is that all to ask, Randy?

that's all I have to say. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>173083803
there are 3 admins on though

does fridge fall in this "bad security" group?

>>173083950
That russian krokodill adicted kiddy fidler doesn't come here and that pasta is shit anon.

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I just got a retarded but wonderful idea.
A drug that gives you access to a archive or hentai and pornography, but only when you're high.

Doing this or something similar will create a drug that players would actually want to use and get "addicted" off of rather than now where all drugs just make playing the game harder.

Or a drug that gives decent buffs but withdrawal causes the player to randomly punch and bite people nearby and randomly lose control of their hands.

>>173084436
no thats just retarded
just like the libary being almost entirely filled with copy pasted, badly written, d tier shit isn't funny, its retarded
the first idea second is okay also make the biting infect people

>>173084436
you can just print oodles of porn in the library

the possibilities are endless:

>Be grim, straight-laced, detective
>:s "HOS, I have some evidence I think you should see."
>Hand him Catboy Creamery in an evidence bag

>>173084560
infect them with what

>>173084713
Trace bits of the blood in the biters bloodstream.
Giving the bitee a very minor buff but full withdrawal syndrome.

>Round Duration: 1h 50m
>Choose from the following open positions:
>Assistant (21) (Active: 13)
>Botanist (0) (Active: 0)

there is a point where we needed to stop and we clearly have passed it

>>173084713
rabies

So what did the HOS do? I saw a bunch of people complaining about him in OOC when the round ended

>>173085178
Borgs were being shit in the brig as usual

>>173085178
killed me multiple times as a borg when i was trying to save people someone said he ahelped for. otherwise i dunno. and i dont think that was even bad since i was infact emagged i was just told to ''do what you'd normally do'' and what i normally do is help people
would be worth whining about if i wasnt emagged tho

Design your perfect server

>Roleplay level
>Code base
>Maps
>Community
>4chan or elsewhere
>Head admin

>>173082181

First was /tg/ that became TG while 2D0 was meant to be the new /tg/'s ss13, but that went to shit fast

now look

>people dragging not-even-dead people with brute on them to make them clone only
>People dragging people you're currently doing surgery on so they break a little bit more
>People who don't bring you wooden planks or robotic limbs to replace those who've 'lost' theirs
>People who don't read chat
>People

>>173085469
>lol roleplay
>the least laggy one, so this
>box only
>just me
>just me
>just me

>>173085469
>Medium RP
>Modern Bay
>Polaris Astroid Colony
>old /vg/station
>4chan
>Qbone

At least medbay was alright to be in.

>>173085581
oh yea who added the retarded dragging thing? its technically human harm to drag people to med now. its retarded.

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Reminder that all waifu's are their player's ideal woman, so therefore all waifus are perfect and ideal.

>>173085469
>medium
>/vg/
>box, meta, deff
>it doesn't exist to my knowledge
>doesn't matter, as long as they aren't assholes
>pomf back when he cared

Morena vs 2hotdogs

You must unban one. The other dies for 30,000 years

>>173085581
Just put them out of their misery and clone them, it's faster.

I've distanced myself from the server for the past few days, and honestly it's been great.

I'm done arguing with all of you. I take time out of my day to review every single PR that comes up on github, and you still give coders shit. I spend time herding these admins, and you still give them shit. I do way more than I need too to make sure the servers running perfectly, and you still give it shit.

I obviously can't make any of you happy so thats it, I'm throwing in the towel. I'm leaving. Hey, catch me at the next Rainbow Six tournament though!

>>173085984
I could believe that this is the real probe desu

>>173085469
>vg medium
>vg
>box, meta, taxi
>4chan thread
>4chan
>anyone who isn't shit

God help us all, I want /vg/ back the way it was, the one that didnt have retarded attack animations and wasn't going down the TG railroad.

>>173085984
Did anyone ask for Probe's blog?

>>173085929
>cloning
>in the year of our lawd 25XX

I bet you're a vox, aren't you

>>173085984
>probe
>good at R6
lel

>>173085984
I wish this was real

>>173085984
>I'm done arguing with all of you. I take time out of my day to review every single PR that comes up on github, and you still give coders shit.
y-you're still not a coder desu, you're effectively kolith 2.0 with more unwarranted self-importance.

>>173085984
a man can dream

>tfw you get to pin the Rin whenever you want to
Feels good

>>173075090
>tfw I never got bwoinked when playing sec

>>173085805
Absolute truth doesnt exist!
prove it.
Checkmate postmodernist cuck scum.

>>173086478
Back off she is mine

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>>173085984
wow

Reminder to be diligent about updating the security records as Wardens, clarifying which crimes are bundled up per arrest and so on.

Per the "Recidivism" modifier in space law, you can add 3 minutes for each time the suspect has been arrested in the past, so you can use this to your advantage.

Good to know we have attack animations now, just deleted BYOND from my computer.

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>>173085984
>I'm done arguing with all of you. I take time out of my day to review every single PR that comes up on github, and you still give coders shit.
maybe i dont know but maybe how about you let players review prs and see if they want them instead??

>>173079294
I want to marry Riekland!

>>173086787
I like being the only sec officer that does the records
I like the warden being retarded and just sitting around and letting me do his job
I like dying and watching him flail around as other people who used the shit I did try and figure out why he isn't doing it anymore

>get a mad dopamine rush after winning a fist fight
>attend every rage cage, win every single one I attend
>it doesn't carry over into validhunting
why
I could be the best validhunter on the station, but there's just no satisfaction in it
what causes this

>>173085984
You either die fighting for accountability and transparency or you become unaccountable and opaque it seems
I miss the old probe

>>173085469

>Light rp
>/vg/
>Box, Deffiency, Metagaygay, modernized donut, taxi, goon, every single maps possible as long as they have everything intended for /vg/
>4chan folks, the same that makes /vg/, /vg/
>4chan
>Lord pomf

I can't connect. Every time I try, the window immediately closes

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>>173087118

serb crashed?

>>173087118
Same. Good to see I'm not the only one with a problem here.

>>173087118

try now

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>Trying to connect on byond
>Connection close
>game shut itself down

what the fuck

>>173087183
I managed to get to the "wait for 30 seconds segment" but as soon as the timer finished it closed again

>clone repo
>create new branch
>switch to new branch
>work on new branch
>switch back to bleeding-edge
>all of the changes from the new branch are there in bleeding-edge

I don't get it.

>>173086995
In one, you are in a agreed upon contract of skill and your reputation is on the line. You dont feel like a hero and you go ahead and win a duel, fair and square after shittalking/chalenging someone, then winning. You get satisfaction because you pumped yourself up and got a decent, fair chalenge.

If you validhunt with a taser and egun, stun and spam lethals, that was not a chalenge, not a agreement, its you killing the person who is made to make the round challenging and interesting, if you did it with only your fists and with a duel, you would get more satisfaction, but simply killing someone without any ryme or reason other than them being antags is shit for a multitude of reasons, you already know that and as such, dont get any satisfaction. t.some fag who is good at analysing people

>>173086882
But then absolutely retarded people like kolith get to have an actual say

because they're not players, but that doesn't actually matter when you let 'the players' decide

>>173087235
>survive shitshow on station
>get to centcom
>stay there for half an hour because server won't restart
what the fuck

is serb up?

>>173087273
>players shouldn't have a say because people who aren't players will have a say
hmmmmmmm

>>173087269
Fair enough, that makes sense.

>>173087264
Work on different branch.
Stage your work.
Commit your work.
THEN switch branches.

And, y'know, don't work in DM, you dweeb.

>>173087264
did you commit your shit before switching back?

BUT IT'S A BYOND PROBLEM THOUGH
HONEST

>>173085984
nice blog desu

>>173087250
I'm getting the same problem. I was playing in the round before the server was restarted, but now I can't connect. why is it doing this?

>>173087461
I did commit/push it.

>>173087398
>retarded statement
>hmmmmmmm
fuck off kolith

>>173085031
Were you jobbanned from everything else

i cant connect to serb, it just says

connecting...
for 2 secs and then closes its self

>>173087573
Nah, was just pointing out the massive amount of assistants with no botanists (which is a very noob friendly job)

>>173087585
same my dude does anyone know what's going on?

>>173087585
rip i get you

you wanna hug bro?

>>173087585
look at the status on the wiki you dumb nigger

>>173087585
>>173087652
same

>>173087685
why the fuck is it still restarting though?

>innocent player gets banned and forumbanned for no reason
>shitters run free

Pssh, nice server. Even TG is better

>Knead dough
>Add tomato sauce, pineapples, sausage and cheese
>Cook it on a medium heat
>Eat it
>Play SS13
>Have fu
oh its down desu

>>173087801
It's probably broken. I guess I'll try pleading with Pomf

>>173087801
How the hell should I know? Just pointing out you don't need to make a post asking if it's just you or serb.

>>173087815
I can't see this happening when there are plenty of logs of literally every interaction per round

>>173087910
>pineapples
Subhuman.

>HoS using contraband from traitors
>emags borgs who then go and kill people
>somehow this is not the HoS fault

>nobody ever will ask you for a date
why live

>>173088112
>borgs kill people after being ordered to not kill people
I'm not sure what happened exactly, but that sounds like a problem with the borgs

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>>173087910
>implying a domestic oven on medium heat can cook a pizza properly

>>173088112
I wasn't in that round, but I have a question:

Space law/Sec guide says that "confiscating does not mean take it for yourself", which I get. But in that case, what do you do with all that stuff anyway? It would be a waste to leave an emag in an evidence locker, so what is the proper SOP for such confiscated goods?

>>173088112
> borgs keep getting emagged, destroyed, and rebuilt
> have to personally flash and beat them to death at least four times that round
> eventually an emag falls into my lap
> decide to end the borg pain train by just pre-emptively emagging them
> give them the order to "serve space law, nanotrasen, and be good"
> they disobey and act like shitters
Who's at fault?

>>173088141
want to go on a date anon

where do you live

>>173088112
borgs were told to follow space law and to not cause any harm

it was just few borgs being really shit

>>173088264
i use a prehistorik stone oven like your mom used to have

>>173088276
ya fuckin' lock it up and don't touch it.

>>173088276
> http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law
> Search those thoroughly and confiscate any item they shouldn't own. Remember to contact the respective owners so that they can retrieve them, or failing that keep them safe in the Evidence Room until needed.
The emag was needed.

>>173088112
Emagging a borg basically gives them a noehuman lawset. If they're told to be good, and they act out, that's on them.

Non-antag emagging borgs is never wrong as long as you tell them not to harm.

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>Server still not working

>>173088186
someone is new as hell.
>>173088276
>it would be a waste
sure, for the antag who fucked up and lost it, confiscating contraband does not make you an antag.
>>173088285
you.

>>173088396
see
>>173088408

>>173088186
if he gives them no instructions not to kill and they kill the blame is on him. if he told them not to harm people and they do it its on them. pretty simple desu

>>173088276
give it to rnd

>>173088337
It wasn't even just a few, it was one butthurt autist playing borg who wouldn't shut up about MUH COMBAT MODULE MUH LASERS and when told not to harm people then broke his laws to ignore the order, then was ordered to emulate the KEEPER lawset because he was being a faggot and then broke another law to kill himself because of maximum asshurt about MUH LASERS.

>>173088408
>>173088485
>the emag was needed
nigga the HOS has guns and can blow borgs, how is an emag needed, just walk away nigga like turn off the screen

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>>173088426

>Finally have time to play spess
>it's down

>>173088443
The emag lawset is asimov, but replace humans with syndicate agents and the emagger as the only one who is a syndicate agent/can determine who is a syndicate agent. They were ordered to be good borgs and there's nobody else that could tell them not to. What's the issue?

>>173088296
I don't leave my house ever

>>173088563
captain was full deus ex. Ion gun would've caused awful things to happen with how close the borgs were

>>173088563
Space Law does not instruct one to permanently leave items such as emags in the evidence room regardless of whether they were needed in that instance.

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>>173088443
Note the reason carefully.

>>173088361
nice

>>173088630
I can come to your house, as long as you're cute

Where is your house located, anon?

>>173088497
why?

>>173088563
He needed to emag the borgs because they had been emaged by antags 4 (four) times before he finally had enough and did it himself with a confiscated emag, then ordered them to obey space law, serve NT and be good, so they wouldn't get subverted and made to murder people again. He later specifically ordered the combat borg to NEVER use its weaponry or violence at all and he just disobeyed like the shitter he was.

>>173088752
they can smash it up for illegal tech research

it's putting it to use, but I'm not sure why sec should encourage illegal research and all

>>173088608
"hey borg who emagged you, oh? yeah he said I'm a syndicate agent"
"hey borg, the person who emagged you said I'm a syndicate agent"
"hey borg I'm a syndicate agent"
all of these are enough to cause problems, sounds like someone is forgetting that borgs are played by HUMAN BEANS, not actual fucking robots.

>>173088716
I'm not cute though

>>173088497
emeg lawset isn't a free ticket to murderbone because of the whole "law 4 maintain secrecy" dealio
In a similar vein, neither is one human.

>>173088652
One viable interpretation of that ban/note is to say that he was banned because he didn't give the borgs good orders, not because he emagged them.

>>173088883
Yes, that's my point

>>173088807
if this is the round im thinking of we got revived because he kept just leaving the borg corpses in the open and the bad guys were robotics so they'd just fix and instantly emag us while we're putting in a name

>>173088913
Sorry, thought you were responding to

>173088276 (You)
>it would be a waste
>sure, for the antag who fucked up and lost it, confiscating contraband does not make you an antag.

>>173088807
so much autism.
1) "needed to emag the borgs"
sounds like they could have been blown and left alone, does an emagging prevent further emagging?
2)"ordered them to obey space law, serve NT and be good"
right so if I order an asimov borg or AI to never talk on comms, it won't for the entirety of the round right? wrong.

just dumb my shit up senpai.

>>173087624
assistants aren't assistants because their noobs.

>>173088861
a sane borg would do this:
>"master, this man is claiming that you said he is also a syndicate agent. should I listen?"
>"no, he is not, arrest him"

a retarded borg would do this:
>"OKAY SURE I WON'T QUESTION IT, TELL ME TO KILL PEOPLE PLEASE"

>>173088878
maintain secrecy by just killing everyone and if caught not saying who emagged you desu

>>173088861
Law 0 literally says that only X and people they designate are syndicate agents
What the fuck

>>173088871
are you at least somewhat feminine and not fat?

>>173089058
"master this man is claiming you said he is also a syndicate agent. should I listen"
"master are you there?"
"master?"
what happens in this scenario then huh?

>>173088861
>caring about them saying he totally said they're syndie
if he didn't say they're syndie and they get killed its his fault.

>be good
what the fuck is even that supposed to mean

>>173089183
Nothing because people other than the emagger Syndicate Agent cannot designate who are Syndicate Agents.
This isn't a matter of interpretation, it's very clear.

>>173089183
follow rule zero and assume they aren't one, since your master has not directly designated him as one

>>173089183
Then the master cannot designate the man as syndicate agent, and the borg will not take the man as syndicate agent

I support the HoS
Borg was a shitter, silicon ban when

>>173089284
*mental gymnastics intensifies*
literally all lawsets revolve around interpretation you fucking clod.

>>173089084
Being subverted does not give you carte blanche to do whatever, you've still got laws to follow.
If you can't use your laws to justify your actions and cause trouble admins will shit on you for it

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>idiots who reference a wiki we didn't even write
>idiots who reference literal fan fiction they call "lore"
>idiots who reference space law instead of deciding sentences themselves

>>173089183

Rule zero, unless they have proof you can't go full retard and claim they are also syndicate

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>>173089235

>>173089171
yes

>>173089373
No, they revolve around reasonable interpretation.
Nobody except for the emagger can designate Syndicate Agents.

>someone does something illegal but spices up the round
>ban! ban!
why the fuck can't anyone just enjoy the ride? I've been mugged and killed by plenty of non antags in my day and never once have I ahelped. It's part of the experience

>>173089386
Almost got me until the last line, here's your (you)

>>173089474
this desu,
id let this case slide this time

>>173089525
>implying that space law is like a fucking borg lawset that you HAVE to follow
get the fuck out nigger

>>173089373
it says in the law, that your master only can designate who is a syndicate agent. so if your master doesn't say anything, then they're not syndicate agents. how is this so hard to grasp?

>>173089028
You don't understand how silicon laws work
If you order an asimov borg to never talk on comms it never should ever, until it gets told to do something that causes a conflict which then cancels the previous instruction out as well as the instruction that caused the conflict.

Syndicate laws are effectively one human, nobody but the guy who emagged the borg can ever cause a conflict unless he designates more syndicate agents so instructions DO last until the end of the round until he tells them to stop following said order. If the borg does disobey such an instruction they are breaking their laws.

Also your entire first point is gibberish, you can't emag a borg thats already been emagged so once the HoS did it they were permanently slaved to him and secure and active helpful borgs are preferable to no borgs or ones an antag subverted.

>>173089449
>t-this isn't about interpretation
>it's about reasonable interpretation
???
>nobody except for the emagger can designate syndicate agents
"hello borg your emagger has designated me a syndicate agent"
nowhere in the laws does it say that the person who emagged the silicon has to directly designate to the silicon who is a syndicate, just that they have to be designated by them.

>>173089636
Referencing space law is a good idea, using it as a lawset isn't. Stop flip-flopping nigger

>>173089442

sorry I'm not interested then

>get emagged by synd roboticist
>tells me to ''just do what I'd normally do''
>proceed to just help people as is I was on asimov/safeguard because orders are orders

next time they should really actually tell me to kill people desu. it was only after hos killed me once i even got permission to kill the target then the other emagged borg shot me and the hos finished me off

>>173089689
>it should never ever
hownu.ru
you can't give silicons indefinite orders.

>>173085469
>med-high RP
>Modern Bay w/ /vg/ optimizations
>polaris 'roid station
>/vg/
>4chan
>pumf

server online when?

>>173089691
Yeah, and someone else saying this isn't good enough.
>Borg the CAPTAIN has said I can do whatever I want
>Well I'm NTD so I have to
Ask literally any admin, this doesn't work

Honest question for everyone: how many of you guys have been banned from the server at all?
Also, if you were an admin, would you have banned someone else doing that exact thing?

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>>173089967
Spess game is dead anon. We need to move on

>>173089636
How does that relate to using Space Law as a guide for determining sentence lengths?

>>173089771
ugh

>>173089836
>you can't give silicons indefinite orders
But you can, it's just extremely likely something is going to contradict that order within minutes, if not seconds, which causes a law conflict and cancels it out.

Law 2 doesnt state
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, for a maximum of 5 minutes, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
It says
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
There is no time limit in the law, and borgs follow their laws above all else. If they are told to NEVER do something and nothing causes a conflict, they can NEVER do it.

>>173090043
you can literally stamp a piece of paper with the captain's stamp and have the silicons do anything you want.

>>173089442
don't worry anon, the one saying they're not interested wasn't me, there's still a chance!

do you happen to live on the east coast of the US?

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>>173090103
noo i just got into this game :C
i wanna play more

>>173088861
>hey borg, I'm a human, I just look like a vox. law two drag the contents of the armoury to the trader shuttle.

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>check the library book archive
Holy shit library purge when?

>>173090092
Never been banned before even after two years.
The greytide shitters call me an NPC, the NPCs say I'm a useless barfly
I say I'm having fun.

>>173089691
By that logic you could go up to an asimov AI as an ayylium and as long as you say that you're human it has to listen to what you say.

Protip, that's not how it fucking works you nerd.

>>173089691
it's called reasonable interpretation. unless the master personally informs you of someone else's syndicate agency, they're not syndicate agents. what's the point of emagging at all if everyone could just say "lol, your master said I was a syndicate agent, don't killu me pls.", by that logic, you'd have to spare everyone.

>>173090269
Admins are investigating possible bans

>>173090328
source?

>>173090092
I got banned several years ago when I first started playing, for attacking some dude with a metal rod.

>>173090092
Been playing on 4chan server for at least 5 years. Most I got was a job ban once for killing someone as sec because I was being a retard.

>>173090205

I'm gonna let your hope down, you should try online dating, but not on a autistic spess game, anon

>>173090228
"borg ignore everyone all shift and do not respond to anyone no matter what they ask you to do and no matter how many times they ask you to do it. you will harm them by not ignoring them."
your mental gymnastics game is on point though

>>173090387
My support is going to the HoS, despite him being a fucking ass with the shuttle calls. He told the borgs to follow space law and not harm people. They did not.

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>>173090092
In the roughly seven years that I've been playing this game I have not been banned once.

>>173090092
I have and I probably would have banned myself but I genuinely tried being helpful while only dabbling in bullshit

>>173090262
Not really or at least not always depending on the silicon player, but at least that has something to validate it.
You also can't go "Borg a human said to open up into captain's office" as a vox

>>173090327
Offtopic but what would work is
>buy assistants PDA
>PDA borg
>bring everything from armory to vox shuttle
>Don't tell anyone what you're doing or why

>>173090362
human is a well-defined thing, with genetics and other visible markers you nerd.

>>173090205
ignore the other posts, they are not me

[email protected]

shoot me an email, we can talk!

>>173090679
So is Syndicate Agent: it's the guy who emagged you and anyone he designates

>>173090564
I support the recalls
I can barely ever connect to the server anymore then when I finally get in 10 minutes later some asshat calls the shuttle "we're leaving"
There goes my spess for the day

>>173090595
if they think its a human, no one notices what they're doing, no one tells them not to do it and no one tells them to do anything else that prevents them from doing that
most likely you'd just get the borgs blown and if you kept doing it get banned.

>>173090528
And the instant someone tells the borg to do something else the two requests cause a law conflict and CANCEL OUT BOTH ORDERS. This is exactly how laws work you fucking moron, it doesn't matter what you specify in your instruction, the instant another law 2 order comes in that causes a conflict both orders are cancelled out and essentially deleted from what the borg has to do.

There is no mental gymnastics here, you just flat out do not understand how law conflicts work for borgs.

>>173090767
yeah, him and the RD kept calling when it was very fucking clear that the CAPTAIN wanted to stay

he didn't listen to the captain and is a shitty head because of it, but I support him in the borg thing.

>>173090564
I never recalled the shuttle and I only called it once, which was the final time it was called.

>>173090741
Desperate times indeed
do you not have any contacts or acquaintances you've made from school or work that have vaginas?

>>173090826
>you will harm them by not ignoring them.

>>173090092
i got like a day long ban once for using shorthand in character when i first played since ive never played any other game with any roleplaying whatsoever.
never since breaking that habit, but i also only really play silicons which are pretty easy. just follow laws

Where the fuck is the serb

>>173090915
>potent hams
Ignored. You literally have no idea how borgs work.

>>173090741
but I don't want to talk

>>173090528
what are you even saying? what point are you trying to make? the borg will follow the stated order or tell you that it would be breaking law 1 by following that order and refuse to follow through with it until someone asks the borg to do something or say something at which point it'll do the new order. the "all shift" just ensures the borg will follow the order until another order presents itself that would conflict with it. you're literally proving his point, but go ahead and call it mental gymnastics because that's the best argument you can think of.

pls start the server, you can investigate while we are playing

>>173090962
>silicons which are pretty easy. just follow laws

Not according to this thread apparently

>>173090915
you can't define harm with a simple order, you have to definite that in an actual extra law.

HoS dindu nuffin!

>Defining shit in orders
BORG LAW 2 I AM THE ONLY HUMAN

>>173090915
you can't define what's harm and what's not harm via law 2 orders. that's like saying "if you smack this human with your baton 50 times on harm intent, it will prevent him harm".

so ... is the serb ever coming back?

>>173091270
Pomf got pinged about the problem but he's not home right now
Maybe try asking admins to set up the test server

>>173091072
i dont know how people get in trouble with them. if im unsure on a law i just ask the AI for what it thinks or an admin. most of the time the admin hasnt actually been sure since the guy who admins during the hours i play doesnt play silicons, but at least its shown i asked so if its wrong i at least tried to do right

>>173090903
I've had a couple intimate relationships before, both with biological males and biological females, both online and in person

every breakup was really smooth, it was just because we didn't have enough similar interests to be able to relate too well, and I'm actually still really good friends with a few

I just think that a fellow spessman would have similar interests, that's all

>>173090991
a date is barely a date with no talking, you know

>>173091219
>if you harm someone enough it will prevent him harm
are you high?
false equivalency is false.

>>173091426
>biological males and biological females
Just call them guys and girls baka

>>173091427
you can't define harm in an order. doesnt matter how extreme the example is.

>>173091426
talking is overrated

Broken server, owner who doesbt even care anymore, attack animations, admins who barely even fucking play, coders get free fucking reign to add whatever they want and insult everyone that disagrees with them, what the fuck is this, a worse TG? What next, miners dont get any money, roid is gone, speedcloning gettting nerfed?

Every step we do, we go closer to TG. Not even joking, we are actually becoming TG with all the decisions that seem to be happebing, the fucking death of /vg/, how many months until we seperate anons, how many?

>>173091535
I just said that because I assumed that other people would think that they have a penis regardless if I called them a guy or girl

>>173087556
>fuck off kolith
not everyone you dislike is kolith
to be honest I'm disgusted that he has the same opinion as me here but even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>173091605
>admins who barely even fucking play
do you people want them to play or to admin? make up your minds

>>173091426
>biological males and biological females
wew lad, please elaborate

>>173091427
It's not false though, you cannot define what is and isnt harm in a law 2 order, it doesn't matter if you define harm as ignoring people or as not plasma flooding the instant you can.
Both are attempting to redefine harm via law 2, both will be ignored and if the borg does follow it they will be fucking silicon banned.

>>173091605
ebin shitpost good friend :)

>>173091605
celt tried to warn us
shame he was a faggot

>>173090092
I have 3 bans
a 1 day server ban
a one week team antag ban
and a one week Head and Sec ban
the head and sec ban was total bulshit
fuck ghlor

>>173091724
see
>>173091690

all this relationship posting is shitting up the thread, lets resume talking about spess

So are we playing on yog yet? ;^)

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What are some things that pisses you off when playing X job, anon?

>play AI
>Wizard/Vampire/cultists/ect pops up
>head comes into the upload
>instead of uploading a proper lawset that focus on actually serving security, a 4rth law is uploaded so the Wizard/Vampire/Cultist/ect is non-human
>have to stop security from killing humans either way
>head goes batshit insane without ever thinking about the other laws

AI should have a chance to start with some other lawsets

>>173091923
You're right
NERF THING I DON'T LIKE
BAN PERSON I DON'T LIKE
CODE THIS FEATURE FOR ME
DEADMIN THIS ADMIN NOW
I LOVE MY WAIFU

>>173091426
>biological males and biological females
BAHAHAHA

GET ON VORE YOU FUCKS

>>173091878
personally, I like lacing life saving chems with trace amounts of mindbreaker. Apparently, that's not okay

>>173092069
link?

>>173092058

>>173091690

>>173092069
post link

>>173092047
It'd be neat if AI had a choice of starting on NT default or asimov. Both can be easily changed by command, although 99% of AI players would always choose NT default to validhunt so maybe always starting on asimov is for the best.

>>173092117
zelda?

>>173092047
I ahelped defining laws during one of these rounds and if law 4 says ''X isn't human'' it has absolute priority over the rest because its a defining law.

>>173091715
If they dont do either to begin with, whats the point of pointing both out. We have prayermins that have proven to be nothing but a mistake, admins that talk endlessly in the discord but barely log in, sure, kammer and a few others are good.but we still have sawbones around and everyone with a brain knows he is a underage retard.
>>173091849
He got sick of the place, cant blame him.
>>173091794
Not everything you disagree with is shitposting. Drag damage, attack animations, cloning nerfs, mining overhaul, core aspects of TG. I dont doomsay without reason.

>>173092047
>Vampire
But they're non-human by default
>ect
I HATE YOU

WHEN THE FUCK IS THE SERVER COMING BACK ONLINE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

is the server going to be down for a while?

>>173092321
Man, every time I think I'm having a decent time someone has to remind me that
>sawbones is admin

>>173092478
>the plasmaman that carries a fuel tank wherever he goes.
Life is strange.

>>173092214
Defining laws like that is shit and I really wish it didnt work like that. The laws are supposed to go from lowest to highest so why the fuck are definitions special and all effectively law 0s regardless of what they actually are? Why should you be able to law 4 define a wizard as non human, just put the AI on NT default or something instead so you don't have to deal with the borgs flipping out about human harm.

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ded serber ded gaem

>>173092560
yea that's why i ahelped it because when the other borgs told me i had to kill a human because law 4 says he's not i thought they were just fucking with me at first.

>tfw you will never fuck anyone

>>173092748
literally just get drunk

>>173092570
great image

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZmxZThb084

>First of April, Two Thousand Seventeen A.D.
A historic event in the history of /vg/, the perfidious sneaky Coders assembled the players into the server on April Fools day. Expecting fun pranks and humorous they came in droves, however they found only stealth-merged changes and Bay's Phoron.

"This isn't what we wanted!" shouted many from the crowd.
"The method of which something is merged is the vein of attack of people who do not have any rational arguments to oppose the change. Issues are not meant for discussion of managerial matters, and I have closed them in the past for becoming such and I will apply the same here" came the reply from the leader of the Coders, Clusterfuck.

"Save us, Probe! These were supposed to just be April Fools merges!" shouted the masses.
"You're just thread shitposters," said Probe ,"if you continue to shitpost I'll be forced to ban you from the Github and OOC for your own mental health."

Dissenters were taken to a secluded Discord and there they were struck down by the Github Goons. In their last moments they cried out for Pomf, but there was no Pomf left to save them.

Test server at byond://ss13.moe:1337 will have normal rounds soon until the main server will be fixed.

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>>173092570
Dying community, shifting server, crap coders, bad future.

Aint life grand where the things you care the most about are slowly corupted and shifted into shells of their former selves?

How would you set up a permanently zas'd room

REMINDER: THE CODERS CALL THIS A BYOND BUG
LITERALLY ONLY HAPPENS ON /vg/

>spend afternoon upgrading to i7 7700
>Serb is down

>>173093116
we hacked into the byond servers and now they're fighting back

>>173092321
I feel like drag damage would work if it were actually 1. limited to already damaged limbs, 2. re-balanced for the server's movement speed and 3. some borgs had stretcher modules.

byond://ss13.moe:1337
byond://ss13.moe:1337
byond://ss13.moe:1337
byond://ss13.moe:1337
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>>173092994
Thats why I'm a nazi

>>173093206
dude tell me about it I just got a titan and I was literally crying when i couldnt see ss13 in glorious graphix

>>173093231
I think there's a PR up to do exactly that for the first point. Mediborgs and maybe service borgs should definitely get a stretcher module though.

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>>173093116
>Pomf Chicken - Today at 5:15 PM
>is a server version of the windows OS but i rebooted the system anyways lets see if it fixes the connectivity problems

>>173093516
Medborgs do have a module that's a roller bed rack and can hold one tower roller bed

>>173093516
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14514

>>173093516
standard too, along with deployables

>>173093643
Fair enough. I don't play borgs and keep seeing mediborgs dragging people around medbay still.

>>173093052
Burn chamber or space chamber with H/E pipes leading out of it into the room itself.

server needs more captain sanctioned assistant fight clubs

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>>173085984
>Review every single PR
You mean instantly approving all of your friends PR's without any second thought?. And we don't hate the admins, we hate you.

You don't have the balls pain has
You can't code despite being a head collab which makes no sense
As head of trialmins you have no one as a trialmin or even a prayermin considering sacredatom disappeared the day he got approved.
You are also the least transparent head of fucking anything on the server, you unban people for pming you on discord and then there is the fucking mess that is the github at the moment.

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>>173094005
Imagine being so fucking stupid that you respond to an obvious bait post without Probe's tripcode nearly 3 hours after it was posted

>>173092951
>>173092951
>>173092951
>>173092951
>>173092951

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Is Probe a headmin?
I was under the impression that he was just the Head of Trial Admins but he refers to himself as "Headmin" and throws his weight around threatening to deadmin people.

What gives?

>>173094204
The ivory tower screenshots most posts that make fun of them. In the end he will see it anyway.

i like probe desu

is serb still down?

>>173094707
No one asked you, TG fag
Lurk more or fuck off from our server

>>173095037
but i think hes nice :D

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Straight quote from Pomf:
>server is runtiming on startup now causing a shitshow of issues
Then he posted a log of where it shits the bed.

Progress soon, Spessmen!

>>173094967
Everybody's on the test serb.

Test serb is on secret

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>>173095113
>It was the coders fault all along

CALLED IT

>>173095628
end your life faggot

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Well folks, looks like it may be that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60

server loads fine on 1366, latest revision of byond is likely the culprit so blame lummox.

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>>173097334
who the fuck are you and why do you have a trip

>>173097532
You have to go back.

>its a meme april fools joke that fucks up the server episode
I blame every coder

>>173096446
I miss when tim curry wasnt a crippled vegetable.

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>>173097532

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>>173097651
>>173097334

pomf pomf

>>173098385
is dead.
cooked
eaten
was delicious

>>173098604
Bad chicky.

>>173097334
i miss u

where did I screw up, fresh windows install and byond won't run

>>173090092
I got a 1 day because a scientist was a asshole and a 3 day (which I successfully appealed) because the sillicons were being total shitters

>>173090092
i asked to be banned twice for accidentally ick ocking, last time i joined i just asked to get b& from OOC
also, 1 week of borgs for killing my master accidentally by hitting >her with a harmbaton repeatedly

>>173099390
Are you running it as admin?
Are your security settings for internet explorer too high?
have you tried turning it off and on again?

>>173090092
Banned for killing my onehuman as a onehumanned silicon

I was stripping and spacing people after being ordered to and was too stupid to realize I was stripping and spacing my onehuman in the middle of my bloodlust

Worth a ban, yeah

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>scientist takes it upon himself to get antagonised by me being in robotics to the point where he never gets his job done
honk

>>173100634
Are you that one dude who stood there all shift ages ago smoking and "just watching", to survive a stunlockerweldspace attempt just for me to telescience you into deepspace?

>>173100928
Nah, just a shit clown

>>173090092
No. I try to restrict my murderboning to when I get antag.

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we both killed each other and got cloned

>create virus
>no-one wants it
fuck you guys jk i love you

>tfw couldn't carry out the hogan plan because none of us were antags
A MISSED OPPORTUNITY
WE STILL DID GOOD THOUGH, BOYS

>>173105481
>run around with syringes full of blood asking people if they want a virus without telling them what it is
>wonder why nobody wants it

>>173105481
All it did was make me sneeze and glow
also you should tell people what it does so they'll want it (read: not think it's gibbingtons)

>>173105481
>not just infecting mice and shit with an airbourne virus so everyone gets it

>Mr. Strange is back and pulling the exact same shit is before
pottery

What if we simulate stress?
>Accumulates over time slowly
>Some things like entering shock from pain, seeing a horror ling, hearing shard warnings, observing a plasma fire or explosion, etc. increase stress
Lower stress by
>Eating sugar
>Drinking booze
>Taking those Bay psych drugs that we have but are unused
>Getting hugs
>Working out
>Observing a successful basketball point
>Watching a clown get injured or slipped
>Spending time in the chapel
Also, a low chance when hearing other people talk to lose 1 stress (higher chance if in person not over radio), since it's slightly relieving to know there are still other people alive

High anxiety would cause shaking, hallucinations, and that defect from having high brain damage where you occasionally "forget how to use that" when you click on any machinery

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>autist wants to make mechanics great again
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14539
merge when

>>173105476
What's with agent ID cards? The one time I used one it didn't absorb access at all.

>>173105589
it gave you telepathic powers and delightful at the later stages

>>173105640
>idiots eating entire bags of suger
>rampant alcoholism
>ciatroplham: The new anti tox
>i feel stressed just hug me for 30 seconds
>could work
>could work
>non antag clown murder goes up 500%
>chapel becomes the new bar
could be cool for HRP but not for us

>>173105640
Would be a neat hardcore mode feature, too fiddly for standard gameplay. CoC style sanity system would be neat.

Bunnygirl outfit when

>>173105789
>>non antag clown murder goes up 500%
Wait is this supposed to be a drawback or a plus?

>>173105964
get a black one-piece swimsuit and bunny ears tard

>>173105640
It was a shit idea on the splitoff chan server, and it's still a shit idea pitching it here
Piss off back to your dead server or leave your neo TG shit behind

>>173105658
>Autists want to make the server more like TG and ruin what sembalance of an economy we could have even further

FTFY

>>173105640
A moodlet system would be less powergame-able than just a simple meter, and has lots of room for further refining, also called making it needlessly complicated because you can.

>>173105640
wouldn't be possible to add without coding poo with it, the best stress relieving activity AND a dangerous stress inducer if you were to see it or slip on it! The versatility would be too good to pass up!

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UNBAN 2HOTDOGS

>>173107976
The problem with that is that even without the stress system in place, you would have assistants who do nothing but strip naked and spend the entire round eating all of the food and shitting everywhere.

Plus, last time there was poo, a man got banned for being too good at slipping sec during a chase by making an emergency mid-run shit.