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Massive Mounds Edition

>What's new?
HEROES OF THE STORM 2.0!
https://youtu.be/YpNkFA7gAHI
>Cassia, D2 Amazon (Now Live)
https://youtu.be/NZkdtQ1fOZY
>Hero Mastery Taunts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638785
https://youtu.be/RAEDd4nES_M
>2.0 Beta Patch Notes
https://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638783
>Veterans get some good loot when 2.0 drops
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20653218

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638786
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20673819
>Latest Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20673818


Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you ?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previous Thread: >>172956420
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Xth for not playing until 2.0
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>>173098856
Blizzard removed this skin from Nova
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>>173098986
They changed the color of it to make it more distinctive.
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>>173098974

>missing out on veteran boxes

laffin at you
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Anyone know yet what these "legendary items" are from the veteran loot boxes?
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>>173099117

Basically you get assured at least 1 legendary per box, namely being an expensive thing like a legendary skin, hero, or mount. Also they have 5 items inside instead of 4.
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>>173098856
So I guess with the new loot box system they'll be dropping out, I should just instalock my lowest leveled hero and powerfarm endlessly the next couple of days for free boxes right?

Or would the rewards I get for leveling those heroes up, post-2.0, be worth it more?
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>>173099117
Legendary rarity skins and 10k heroes.
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Hey guys I'm a big fucking retard baby could you spoonfeed me for a sec.

Is there a quick way to check what level my account will be in 2.0.

Say by, logging into the PTR? Will that convert me over proper?
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>>173098856
>>173099254

SPREADSHEET FOR CALCULATING BOXES FOR NEXT PACH:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yARBRE1mmWrAurP__Bux6ticvCmNN7ioLtPVRKHRA7A/edit#gid=0
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>>173099254
No quick way. There are done level calculators people made, but their accuracy is inconsistent.
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>>173099061
>buy skin because it looks good
>skin gets changed to look like ass

epic
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>>173099117
Skins that used to be epic but now blizzard calls them legendary even though they didn't change anything about them.
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>lvl 495

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO TO GET THOSE LAST 5 POINTS

Maybe Probius will save me.
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>>173099314

>You need permission
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>173099314
access preez
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>>173099314
>>173098856
>>173099460
>>173099589

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yARBRE1mmWrAurP__Bux6ticvCmNN7ioLtPVRKHRA7A/edit?usp=sharing

Sorry forgot Google did that shit
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>>173099643
>shared access instead of copies
Ya dun goofed
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>>173100160
>>173099643

This is more fun
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Can you reroll the veteran boxes?
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>>173099643
>>173100160

>New level lower than my old one

I assume this is because of the shared access.
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For the people thinking about leveling low level heroes to get more hero levels, while it might be a bit faster you can always level high level heroes too since it's 1.1mil exp per level after 10 so if you get 3.3mil exp on your level 15 hero you are still gaining 3 levels even though your level 15 hero probably won't get a level off it
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>>173100654
Minus 64
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>>173101048
Why?
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>>173101182
Base level doesn't count otherwise everyone would begin at level 64 instead of 1
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>>173101048
>>173101267
Cassie's out now so 65.
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Holy fuck Valeera is fun as hell

They absolutely nailed rogue gameplay
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>>173099643
5 common
19 epic
1 veteran

Would've liked more, but I kind of expected it. I don't spend as much timeo n this game as the rest of you.
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I tried one of those calculators and my total hero level went up by a whopping 3.

That seems awfully low, is it a safe bet that the calculator isn't working right?
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>>173101491
I only have one problem with valeera, the teleport talent at lvl 13 is called death from above and not cloak and dagger .
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>>173100679
I read it as:

Cassia
Amazon Warm-a-tron

>she will never warm you up
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>>173101608
CASSIA IS FOR SNUGGLES
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is it me or is cassia slightly cross eyed?
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Anub
Rexxar
Tyrael
Leoric
and Sonya
are the BEST and will carry me to GM this season!
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>Mfw the Lili announcer

Oh man, this is actually pretty cute.
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>>173101846
Too many blows to the head over the years, or from Diablo in the final confrontation.
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where can i hear the new announcer stuff?
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>>173101846
Take it back.

>>173101883
How are they, anyways? Is it fresh stuff or just existing voicelines?
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>>173101998

Some of them have reused voicelines according to some complaints, but from what I could tell the Lili one was largely new stuff.
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>>173101991
PTR
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>tfw no leoric announcer
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>>173102079
Okay, cool.

>>173102150
Yeah, it's unfortunate. At least they went ahead and started now. Hopefully we get a steady stream of them.

>tfw no southern catfish hero
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>>173101608
>Grandmazon will never tuck you in and lull you to sleep with tales of her adventures
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>>173101608
I read it as "War-ma-tron" and thought she was some sort of automata designed for battle
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>>173101883
>>173101883
>Li Li: Who will grab me booty first?
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Fair and balance matchmaking right here.
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>>173101998
Several existing voice lines are reused, mostly for celebrations, but new material is covered, for things like "mega kill" or the start-of-match countdown.
Except for the two joke announcers Murky and Butcher, both are totally reused (exclusively saying variations on mrrglmrrgl and FRESH MEAT respectively)
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>>173103390
D-DELETE THIS.
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>>173103396
oh

team league still exists

how about that
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SO WHO THE FUCK CAN I LEVEL JESUS CHRIST REEE
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Is there a video that can teach me how to be a pro medivh?
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>>173103847
varian
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>>173103847
Everyone 9 and up.
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help
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>>173103847
AVOID: Excessively playing low level heroes, to receive crates faster
Do NOT: Level anyone from 8 to 9
Do NOT: Level anyone from 10 to 11
Do NOT: Level anyone to 13
Basically anyone above level 9 as long as above conditions are met, but nobody below and including Artanis.
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>several characters roast Arthas in pre-game banter
>best he can muster is "Silence..."

Remind me again, why is this guy the Lich King?
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>want to buy Probius and Valeera
>want to save Gold for rerolls
>still a month left
>a month of no Gold spending
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>>173104224
>>173103847
Pretty much don't play at all is the best bet. For optimal loot boxes. Wait for the 3 weeks to go bye. At most do your dailies & weekly brawl so you can get re-rolls and thats it.
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>>173104289
>there are people in this thread even at this very moment who have less than 150k gold
Do you even play this game?
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>>173104359
>not wanting to spend gold implies i have less than 300,000 gold
?
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>>173104395
>having less than 300k gold and not having all the heroes in 2017
Do you even play this game?
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>>173104242
The helm made him dumb. He was snarkier before he put it on.
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>>173103847
Raynor till 12, Varian till 11, everyone level 9 till 11. Don't touch anyone else
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>>173104359
I only have 45k gold banked but:
I bought a 20k gold mount (Blackheart's Doubloon)
I have 3 Master skins (Morales, Auriel, and Johanna)
I jumped the gun on 3 heroes and bought them at 15k (Morales, Xul, and Lucio)
I'm pretty sure I missed two weeks of Brawl
So that's 65k~67k gold I'd have if I were utterly transfixed on my practical spending
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>>173104242
New model when
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>>173104519
Ner'zhul was not a clever Orc.
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>>173104569
The doubloon was 20k? Jesus.
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>>173104684
As was the pig.

The Blizzcon horse from a couple years ago was 30,000, I think.
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>>173104684
So was the money pig, but I didn't buy that one. Didn't get the golden rooster either.
Oh, but I did forget that I have Xul's master skin as well, so, add another 10k onto that pile.
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>>173104875
I definitely got the blizzcon one just to cuck those who bought the ticket back in the day, and I'm never going to use it.

Whose skin would it ever suit?
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>>173104980
Ye, my thoughts exactly. I never bought it, though.

Stopped playing for a bit too long and started falling behind in gold.
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>>173105110
I've kept maybe 9 months of breaks in total and I'm still sitting on a shit ton of gold after systematically doing all the daily quests
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>>173104665
I don't really remember his story much. Wasn't he Gul'dan teacher or something until Gul'dan conned him, and then the Legion found his soul in the Twisting Nether and conned him again or something like that?
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>>173104980
I like it with Master Li Ming
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>tfw i might actually start playing Diablo just for this skin
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>>173106352
it's a pretty damn good skin
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>>173106352
Will you enjoy flipping your prey onto their backs and pinning them to walls?
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>>173106352
Those insane farting hips
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>>173106493
all i can imagine now is Leahblo doing pic related
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>>173106352

Same. I was super disappointed when I saw the trailer with prime evil Diablo in it then in game it was doofy macho man Diablo instead.
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>>173106745
>>173106352
>people want D3 anything
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>>173106817

Diablo 3 sucks but femdiablo is great.
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I've spent so much gold:
>Valla master
>Zuljin master
>ETC master
>Tychus master
>Artanis master
>Azmodan master
>Nazeebo master
>Gazlowe Master
>Malfurion master
>Rehgar master
>Johanna master
>Kerrigan master
>Tyrael master
>Zagara master

>Gold rooster
>Cloud 9 mount
>Treasure goblin
>Piggy bank
>Doubloon

Missed that damn Nexus charger
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>>173104156
>4 hyper mobile heroes that scale into lategame
>one tank on enemy team who is still doing placements
Just don't dive against the Nazeebo and camp a beacon until lv 10 or alternate lanes as 5 and give their turrets a hard time. You guys should be fine.
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Should I even bother with this game anymore? or just wait until 2.0 hits live and just masturbate instead?
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>>173107084
Are you on suicide watch?
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>>173108908
naw he's on overwatch
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Anyone playing the PTR quests? I haven't played this game in like a week and I'm getting the itch again.

Maybe I'll go finish the gold quests in AI or something.
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>>173104224
why not level anyone from 10 to 11?
why is 12 safe?
so level anyone that is 9 to 10?

are 10 and 12 the safe levels?
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>>173109396
400k exp past level 11 hits level 20 after patch
I don't remember the exact point but sometime around 13 you will go past level 30 after patch

Every 10 levels on a hero gives you a loot chest with one item specific to that hero
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Where is that chart for hero level-exp conversion? Wanna see if i can grab an extra epic ou veteran box
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>>173110140
look in the thread you retard
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>>173098856
newly updated info:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638785/flaunt-your-hero-prowess-with-hero-mastery-taunts-3-31-2017

On Master Skins

When we originally added master skins to Heroes of the Storm, they were intended to be a low effort gold sink to reward ourselves. However, when users evaluated master skins, everyone with an above room temperature IQ realized that. There were several places where we could make improvements.

Master skins created situations where players had to choose between unlocking an old hero or unlocking new hero, which was a battle that heroes won far more often. Additionally, if casual players purchased a master skin during our beginner level gold trap, they'd then soon have little gold. This meant they couldn't visually display their prowess with a hero in-game if there was a non-master skin they liked better, because they became discouraged and quit altogether rather than paid up for heroes.

These issues combined resulted in far fewer players unlocking and using master skins in-game than we had expected. Most players who had access to master skins did not unlock them, and most players who did unlock them would not primarily use that skin during their matches. Most players who didn't use that skin still valued the collecting experience, achievement, and in-game pride only an exclusive skin could provide, but that is not important.

In Heroes 2.0, we decided to move to a new system we hopes works better for us so that you don’t have to make those difficult decisions.
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>>173099410
This, i want a refund, only gonna use widowmaker nova anyways
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>>173111259
youre 5 days too late anon.
we know that already.
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>>173099410
>Replace one skin tint for the actual hero
>Nova player whines
>>173111483
>Using down syndrome Widowmaker

Wow, all Nova players really are retarded.
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>>173111690
>nova players

Is this a LOL thread?!
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>>173110336
Thanks anon i love you
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>>173111956
s-stop being so kind
here is a new version i found on reddit
this one seems a little more accurate
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>>173112282
im retarded
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wCAp_NWuf0JP8UN70crYwPlPOFczcHxwpZt-ztBYi9s/edit?usp=drivesdk
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>>173111690
>it's ok to change this skin because blonde is really close to white hair
>people aren't allowed to not like it when something they paid for and enjoyed gets changed

I will say I'm rather amazed a retarded faggot like you could even bother taking dicks out of his hands long enough to post, so congrats on that at least.
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>>173112785
I bet you take triple tap, fagit
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>mfw I figure out that you are supposed to shoot Howling Blast at where your enemy will be instead of aiming at where he currently is

Arthas is so fucking fun.
Even more at level 16 when you can have 2 skills that root enemies and truly become the embodiment of creeping death.
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>>173113268
>>mfw I figure out that you are supposed to shoot Howling Blast at where your enemy will be instead of aiming at where he currently is
You.. you literally only have now grasped the concept of a skillshot?
How do you play this game?
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>>173113395
Terribly.
But I'm slowly getting the hang of it and it has become significantly more enjoyable.
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>>173113268
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>>173113268
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>>173101608
>I read it
>I reddit
I saw this joke there too, funny guy
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>>173113845
That's literally what the name "reddit" was intended to evoke.
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>>173113910
So him stealing jokes from there is all part of the plan. Doesn't change the fact he's a faggot for that. A planned faggot
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>>173111259
You do know thats the april fools joke right?
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>>173114248
It isn't.
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>>173113845
Link to the reddit post. That's really how I read the word in my head when I saw it at first.
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>>173114331
it is though, it was released the same time as all the other april fools jokes. There is a reason this was the only thing that wasn't mentioned in the 2.0 update. It's why it isn't in the ptr, you stupid?
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>>173114453
whatever makes you feel better anon.
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>>173114412
Everything comes from reddit faggot
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>>173114687
But Reddit gets everything from 4chains
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>>173114687
>>173114837
I think there might be a 3rd party involved in this
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>>173114970
the jews?
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>>173112367
Why is the new combined level, the sum of all my heroes level minus one per hero?
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>>173115470
Because level 1 heroes don't count to the total so when you get one to level 2 you only gain one account level
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>>173115470
nvm im retarded
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>>173107084
they rotate the gold mounts anyway
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>>173107084
>Cloud 9 mount
Disgusting.
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>>173109396
You get two crates on those levels post 2.0. 12 is safe because you don't lose anything but a common drops and the xp rate has already slowed down.

You basically got it. 10 and 12 are the least 'special' levels, thus I deem them mathematically safe.
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>>173114248
>(April fools) is literally in the title
I bet you felt smart asking that
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just looking through game files here.

clubs is old right? looks old and is under /starcraft/.

ability accuracy isn't live yet right? quest talents completion? doubloon theft?
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>spend 15k gold on cassia
>play 1 game
>boring as fuck

when will they make a fun hero? last 1 was varian, before him kaelthas and leoric
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>>173120045
>unironically buying heroes for 15k gold
you deserved it, anon

anyway, go full q build and just keep throwing it to at least get big numbers
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>>173119989
Just take a break man, do some qm, unranked or stop playing for a bit. Most people get tilted after losing more than 2 games and will perform worse in the next game
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>>173119989
>losing with Varian
But how
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>>173120906
>Lose a game
>Favoured Adjustment

>Win a game
>Opponent Favoured Adjustment
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>>173120045
>buying a Hero you haven't played
>for 15k, not even waiting two weeks

I don't
even
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I think Chef Stitches may be one of my least favorite skins in the game because of unnecessary bullshit.

>we should make him use a giant chunk of meat instead of a cleaver
>BUT LET'S GIVE IT METAL SPIKES
>let's wrap sausage links around his neck
>lets make them look like turds AND GIVE THEM METAL SPIKES
>sounds good todd, replace his hook chain with the spiked turds too
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>>173120045
My most fun heroes have been

>Lt. Morales
I love sitting back and saying "fuck it, you do everything, I'll just make you invincible".
>Auriel
Basically the same as Morales with just a bit more activity, looking for push-into-stuns and sweeps for energy accumulation.
>Xul
Pushing lanes is great.
>Lucio
Basically the same as Morales and Auriel but with everyone around.

Basically I love it when I have to work the least and just have everyone else do stuff, or have my stuff work automatically (Xul)
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>>173121804
Cool blog. Subbed
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>>173121832
>he doesn't play Lucio hyper aggressively just to piss off the enemy team
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How's Cassia?
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>>173121934
>playing ribbity reddit style Lucio
Don't forget to make a montage with balling dubstep misic showing off your great solo kills!
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>>173122668
Good. Might become a staple even. She's Thrall - perfect Arthas draft tier. Works in all but the CC heaviest environments and can idally counter some entire teams stupidly hard.
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>>173104242
I'm pretty sure that they even removed some of Arthas voice lines, because he is supposed to have one when he kills Jaina but it's nowhere to be found
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>>173106352
this skin is acquired from playing d3?
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>>173122997
Jaina... what have I done...
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Are Falstad's Lightning Rod talents any good or what?
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>>173122668
She seems to be a solid choice. Her weakness is her low HP, but her trait bolsters that. She brings great CC to the table, her blind is like a miniature version of Artanis' ult, her talents are great, her ults work well. I'd give her a high tier ranking.
Mages can ruin her day, though. Don't draft into her against Kael'thas.
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>>173123036
It's acquired from being a good goy
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>>173123214
Nope, despite all the buffs to them.
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I have notices they changed the promised rewards for veterans in hots 2.0 from that disgusting low cap, but i am too lazy to do the math, if i am say a veteran with 400 hero level currently, then with the need reward stuff will i be just as well off as a new player who will level to 400 hero level from zero after 2.0 hits?
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>>173122668
another zzz low-hype vanilla release like zul'jin. decent talents and valk is a little interesting at least.
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>>173123214
Only Bribe on certain maps.
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>>173099117
legendary skins for heroes which you do not play at all, you can bet your ass on that
i wish they added trading, because if i get a legendary skin for say zagara which i play literally never then i would love to be able to exchange it for say mura leg skin which i would use all the time
but they will never ever implement trading because everyone would be able to easily get any skin or shit they want by trading and never spend any moni on the game
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>>173123130
No the line was
>You broke your promise
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>>173123214
If you're against an Illidan/Tracer or similar hyper mobile cuntlord then Lightning Rod build is good.
Better vs Illidan since he can't Evade your lightning.
I think Samuro purges your lightning on Q though so not him.
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>>173123827
just reroll the chest if you get something of good value that you know you won't use
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>>173123930
Yeah i will save my gold ONLY for legendary rerolls, but what happens if you have commond chest and get a random leg item in it? if you reroll will you get also a leg, or likely just common item instead?
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>>173123994
Likely just a common.
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>>173123705
only blizzard knows. they show little math aside from the guaranteed drops. it's likely they changed nothing in reality on their side.

new player could be better off in the long run. seems like there could at least be some small cases like someone with everything level 6/7 but little gold (they didn't do dailies religiously for ???k gold), real money investment, or exclusives might as well just start over.
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>>173123861
I combined Malfurions like with his. I believe the line was removed because it's partially non-canon and literally 0.1% know what it refers to.
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>>173123705
In the long run especially the luckiest of the noobs will gain more crates and drops, but we got guaranteed legendaries and they'd have to play a shit ton to ever catch our epics.
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>>173123994
>but what happens if you have commond chest and get a random leg item in it? if you reroll will you get also a leg, or likely just common item instead?
Rerolling a legendary out of a common chest means it gets rerolled. There are no guarantees of any quality.
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Jeez Blizzard I really appreciate you making this game unfuckingplayable for a month.
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>>173125705
look, a time traveler from two days ago
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League wanted to jump on Cho'Gall wagon and released their pair-hero.

http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/champion-xayah-rakan-reveal

It's AA Probius and Kharazim that have literally ONE skill synergy between them and can even be taken seperately in a match. Because it would be too strange to force them to always be together. Fuckin crystal paladin guy has more synergy with their carry.

Fucking up the concept aside, pure skillset-wise they both look fun. I'd love to see this chick's boomerang playstyle in HotS and Blizz could make the "lover's theme" much more coherent with maybe Alleria and Turalyon

/blogout
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>>173125705
>Caring about chests too the point you stop playing
fuck off nigger
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>>173126123
Cho'Gall has one actual ability they share and then the passive they have to fight over.
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>>173126123
>female DPS
>male support
>they're lovers
>another male support has better synergy with the girl
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>>173125705
Didn't you read what they changed?
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>>173126123
I hate how she looks
>dude let's make an harpy champion
>but don't give her actual wings or she will be too hard to cosplay
>and add a nose piercing to show she's a rebel!
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Apparently there were Auriel changes along Uther and ETC on the meeting patch. Any info about that? Or did literally all of the streamers ignore her? Quality game journalism...
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>>173126879
Speaking of which
Aviana in HotS when?
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>>173127003
I was unaware that Auriel was in need of any changes, she is perfect right where she is.
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>>173126578
>new support is objectively better too and will be played without his girl
It's not acuck thing, it's two people not meant to be together being written as a pair because "muh story"
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>>173127196
Ult - reduce allied manacost to zero ?
I dont know what the fuck Aviana do it WoW
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Who are worthy first picks (excluding map picks)?
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>>173128528
I hear that Butcher is a bad first pick
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>No one listens to my calls
>One person always proceed to do something risky and cost us the game
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>>173126863
like it matters if he read it when it's all in beta RNG spacebucks terms. and there's no way all the dickriders have downloaded the beta to even grasp it all and yet there they are, being thankful everywhere.

easiest way to know it's a massive fucking is by how little blizzard actually bothers to explain without all the flowery words. it's far too difficult for them to say they went and adjusted so no one has to worry about the differences at all.

>>173127003
supposedly there's resurrection buff. not much to discuss other than call auriel entitled for want two good heroics.
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>>173129068
Fuck the being thankful to developers part, rather it's all about getting as much out of their ploy as we can get for free.

Other than that I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>173129281
>>173129435
I wasn't running.
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>>173130084
Only a single one?
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>Tfw 500 account level in 2.0
>5 common, 50 epic, 5 veteran boxes

My autism is okay with this
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>prestige taunt video made unlisted

Theres hope
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When is this coming out?
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>>173132405

24th
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>le rock cow has lower winrate than medivh now

ahahah blizzard what are you fucking doing holy shit
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Im moving to Asia next week. As I understand it, there it literally no reason to start playing HotS on the Asia Server before 2.0, right? I would just miss a bunch of chests without getting much now.
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>>173132475
Bah, I'll be dead by then.
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>>173132764
>I would just miss a bunch of chests without getting much now.
what? why would they not give you the chests you would have gotten anyway? are they big jews?
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>>173132764
Nevermind, Im retarded. I only saw the post about the veteran chests and didnt read the original correctly. I would maybe lose something If I get over level 70, but that wont happen.
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>>173132119
45 epic, actually
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>>173133912
Man, I remember that post.
Motherfucker was dense as shit no matter how many times it was explained to him.
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>>173133912

Blown the FUCK out
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OK, for fuck's sake, I suck at Diablo in QM too much, he's frustrating as fuck to play, he can't do shit against a bunched-up enemy team, I have shit damage, I just run around the map feeling helpless, and always die because I feel like I always have to engage.

What am I doing wrong? How do I not hang myself levelling him?
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>>173134830
You're taking the encounters completely wrong if that's what''s happening. If you lack the understanding of combat pacing especially in teamfights, Diablo's going to cause you to Q dive into suicide every time. It's all about understanding how the game works.

Basically, just keep playing.
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>>173134830
>he can't do shit against a bunched-up enemy team
He can press R.
>I have shit damage
He is a tank.
>I feel like I always have to engage
Stop engaging with Q as it sends you a mile out of position. Engage properly by running in, grabbing someone with Overpower, and then Qing them out of position.
If they're all running away from you, then good. They are not committing and must scatter before your bulk.
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>>173135020
>>173135157
There are usually no teamfights when I'm around, it's just me alone or with someone else, against 4 or 5 advancing enemies. I have no way to engage and the rest of the team is always fucking around somewhere else. This is happening consistently in my Diablo games.
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>>173135324
Just what kind of ranks is this type of phenomena present at?
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>>173135423
Not-particularly-high-mmr QM.
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What does this make you think of?
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>>173135675

Anime sucks
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>>173135675
There are already two other tints which reference to unit 01, even the tint's name is 01 in the PTR.
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>>173135675
A recolored scanner from HL2?
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So they want to remove master skins or what?
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>>173135773
Purifier Artanis and what?
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>>173135736
Dragonball Z is a good show, don't diss.
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>>173135883
Master skins are just another skin in 2.0 (cheap ones at that), they are no longer associated with character levels.
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>>173135503
Not particularly high to say the least.

Get the talent that lets you crush targets into walls for extra damage and look for anyone out of position.
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>>173135917

The only good animes are the buff boy gar ones.

Everything else a shit.
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>>173132720
It's just a high skill cap hero. I've seen a few of AMAZING ETC players (including myself) so I know better than hotslogs. He's big in the pro meta so don't ask for changes.
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>>173136415
Son, you are a homosexual
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>>173135883
poor smurfs were mad about getting trolled over not having them so they had too.
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>>173136598

You are wrong.
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>>173136693
Not a veteran player, but I like being able to pick my favorite skins instead feeling forced to show off my "dedication" with a Master skin.
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>>173098856
GIVE US A FUCKING HELLSCREAM ALREADY!!!!
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>>173134830
I feel like this with monk. I don't know what the fuck I am suppose to be doing? I need to be hitting people apparently but if I go in I get melted.
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>tfw you're the only person on your team to be in the post-game medal screen after a victory
>tfw it's as MVP
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cassia is pretty meh, feels like discount varian
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>>173126123
>those 1990s graphics
holy shit how are people playing that
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>>173137387
You should learn to build talents then.

Done right, you can blind the enemy team for a stupid amount of time. 10s+
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>>173135324
Then you and whoever is with you are out of positioning.

In fact, positioning can explain every problem youre having.

Dont engage with Q until 16 when you get Domination (E resets Q CD) UNLESS you can check someone into a wall and E them off it into your teams loving arms.

Until 16 you bodyblock and wait for the enemy to overextend at which point you E -> Q them away from their team so that yours can burn them down.

Youre Diablo, not Thrall. You cant just dive and blow people up on a whim.
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>>173137226
his ultimate creates a separate timeline where your team loses
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>>173132720
That's what a 15% health nerf and 20% damage nerf across the team will do to ya.

>ETC gets 2100 health and a conditional 20 armor as a generalist tank
>Varian gets 2322 base health as assassin, 3022 BASE health with tank upgrade on top of 15 armor

Rip in pieces guitar cow.
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>>173137584
I have cassia at lvl 20 so i know her talents perfectly and she is shit
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>>173137837
You can get Cassia to lvl 20 and still be shit at playing her.
Quantity =! Quality
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>>173137753
reddit says its justified so im sure were both wrong in saying it was unnecessary

the consensus is that he was le obligatory ban and pick material and he was in every game so he should suffer a <40% winrate
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>>173112367
I filled this in and the old hero level is 2 higher than what I have on live, why?
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What happened to the great Dustin Browder
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>>173138441
you could check the formula and figure it out on your own
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>>173138441
You have around 7 heroes at level 9, and 4 at 10, that's why.
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Was just thinking of Piano Uther and wondered: is it possible for some future hero's talents to ALL be active abilities completely separate from his starting kit?
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What is your favorite reaction to being clicked on repeatedly?

I like Jaina's:
>SHH! I'm trying to think here

and Brightwing's:
>FRIEND?
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https://pvplive.net/c/mercys-voice-actress-is-recording-new-lines

Are we getting Mercy as the female Overwatch event hero after Genji?
>inb4 Auriel/Morales
People were similarly adamant about us never getting Lucio because of Brightwing
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2.0 when?
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>>173139542

Her heroic would be broken in HotS.
She's probably just recording for a new Overwatch event.

If we do get an overwatch girl, Expect DVa.
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>crunch the numbers
>New Combined Hero Level: 192
Nice, I'll get a Veteran chest if I grind a few more levels.
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>>173139016
First of all, those numbers in the link are not mine and second of all, why would that matter anyways?
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>>173139723
wtf, how new are you?

there are people in this general that won't have at least 7 veteran chests?
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>>173139542
What does it say? "Love the hogger"?

>>173139659
The one Auriel already has?

>>173139745
I was estimating.
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>tfw your team can't handle azmodan and abathur pushing lanes
Always fun losing games 5 minutes in and having to stick around for another 10-15 minutes
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>>173139821
I started to get into it two months ago. Game's fun.

By the way, how long until I stop sucking? I seem to be stuck in Bronze 1.
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>>173139821
Been playing since mid 2015 and will only get 5 veteran chests.
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>>173139840
Auriel revives one person over three seconds in melee range

Mercy is an instant, ranged, full team revive.
and if they give her a nerfed version, Auriel already does it. Marcy may as well be a Auriel skin.
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>>173140023
Mercy resurrects everyone? The fuck?

Anyway, almost certainly Mercy would just be a skin for Auriel. They're far too similar in design.
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>>173139821
Only 4 desu, but I'm started on Zarya release. Also I'm a massive degenerate that masturbates up to 3 hours a day, watches shitty moeblob anime, plays other video games too and I'm also wageslave my senpai.
Bit hard to get more time in when I already only sleep 2 hours a day
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>>173140269
Mercy players fucking suck in OW because they're cunts who wait for that sick ass 5 man revive that never happens all game long rather than just reviving 2-3 people at a time all the time. Or they are homo healsluts. Or someones girlfriend healing only their boyfriend soldier/pharah/rein

FUCK Mercy players.
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>>173140269
Mercy has pretty much nothing in common with Auriel beyond resurrection as an ultimate ability. She's more similar to Morales with the single target high-HoT heal beam.
Visually, she's a huge distance from Auriel by merit of having a face and completely different weapon.

Everyone jumps to "similar appearance--only gets skin" because of Widowmaker, but no. Widowmaker and Nova are nearly identical in body shape, hairstyle, weaponry, and clothing.
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>>173140854
Angel-ish, check. Healer, check. Resurrects, check. Hope and Mercy.
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>>173139984
Looks like 6 or 7 veteran chests to me
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>>173141017
>Angel-ish, check.
The only one vaguely relevant, and yet, it's meaningless. Raynor and Tychus exist in this game. Rehgar and Thrall exist. Sylvanas and Tyrande exist. Characters can look similar without an issue so long as they are distinct, and Mercy's "angel-ish" design is completely distinct from Auriel, who's flowing cord of hope, hood, and LACK OF FUCKING FACE set her apart from the staff wielding and not-literally-hovering-at-all-times Mercy.
>Healer, check
Less than meaningless. Auriel doesn't heal in any way even resembling Mercy.
>Resurrects, check
Irrelevant. Two heroes are allowed to do the same thing.
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>>173139287
Uther still remains one of my most played heroes from back in the day when he was relevant.

oh boy, piano uther just really had the abillity to control a team fight the right way.... *sigh*
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>average wait time 44s
>time in queue 360s
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>>173141472
Nah, I did the math. I'm around 550
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>we want more supports blizzard
>fine, but they're all gonna be overshits
One job, blizzard
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>>173141514
I'd like to see a different kind of resurrection ability that gives you a limited time window to resurrect everyone in the radius back at 10% health, giving the team another chance to quickly back the hell out and defend if the enemy didn't stick around to defend the area.

I just don't think it'll be happening any time soon. The next OW support would probably be the sniper bitch.
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>>173141967

Next hero is warcraft support. Its not who you hope or expect.
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>>173142529
Why spread false info?
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>>173142607

I mean after genji but yeah
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>>173142685
Yeah but c'mon now, anon
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What will you be opening first? Common chests, epic chests or veteran chests?

What are you rerolling and now many times?
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At first it was just a hunch, but I'm becoming more and more convinced. Do HOTS players just not understand defensive gameplay at all? There seems to be no grasp of splitting, counterpushing, freezing, dedicated siege, map control, anything. Does it get better at level 40/higher MMR?
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>>173143020
>Does it get better at level 40
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>>173143020

It gets better in masters.
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>>173143121
>>173143124
Holy fuck, really? There are several specialists built seemingly for this exact purpose.
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Any vikings players been experiencing a delay when swapping vikings since Cassia patch hit?
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>>173142982
veteran

rerolling till cap or i get something I really want
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>>173143251

People generally play this game like a casual smash brothers and just throw themselves into shit. The fact that sometimes it works and they win creates bad habits in low level play.

It does get better at higher rank, but QM will always be a disaster slugfest because it's random as fuck.
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>>173142982
Common chests, then one veteran chest for the novelty, then the epic chests, then I'll decide if I want to open the veteran chests now or cook them for the hero after Genji's release.
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>>173142982
Common first, then epic and veteran last. Might get lucky on the lower quality ones and get legendaries I want so I can reroll for something else on the veteran legendaries
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>>173143378
If I'm not mistaken it's more profitable to open the lower tier crates first.
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>>173143020
People below Diamond 2 can't play this game and this is me being generous.
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Is it now possible for me to play normally again with the veteran boxes update or should i still keep my level low?
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>>173143576
It can be very profitable to level up before 2.0. Fill out the google spreadsheet thingy, and find out whether you're near a milestone and which heroes you can safely level.
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>>173143576

Just play. You get boxes either way.
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>>173142982
Will open commons -> epics -> vets

Will probably do max rerolls on vets
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>>173143561
Even masters is horrible, QM, UD and HL, it's all bullshit. These low as fuck skilled individuals, jesus christ.
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>>173139287
Probably.
You'd need to think of a shitload of them though.
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>>173143545
Why?
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Why have Mercy for our multi-res hero when we can have MINIONS, SERVANTS, SOLDIERS OF THE COLD DARK, OBEY THE CALL OF NEVER EVER
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>>173143793
>yfw you realize you're only playing against people of your MMR
>yfw you're shitting on your own skill level right now
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>>173143793
Nah, at mid to high masters I get mostly good games.
3.2 -3.7k mmr region.
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>>173143924
Imagine opening 100 commons/rares, odds are you'd have 1-3 legendaries that you can't re-roll. Then you start opening the veteran crates and if you happen to get the same item you have the choice to either reroll or just take the shards, depends which you're going for. Same applies for epic crates.
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>>173143948
I'm specifically talking about that one particular shitter on the team every so often, seemingly the amount of them has increased recently, the one who has no idea how the simpliest core mechanics work, how the maps play, how and when to use abilities and move and attack and when to fucking not go back into the base or go for mercs when the win is right there.
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>>173143513
>I'll decide if I want to open the veteran chests now or cook them for the hero after Genji's release.
if they're like Overwatch's crates (they will be) then their contents are decided when you get them, not when you open them, so you can't bank them for future releases.
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>>173143513
You can't save crates, they're tied to the date you obtain them.

Though, you could stop playing for 2 additional weeks.
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>silenced once again thanks to blizzards shit matchmaking
Great
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>>173144479

You can reroll the contents manually with gold though. Not possible.

>>173144593
>autistic rager faggot
>blames everyone but himself
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>>173144376
>not go back into the base or go for mercs when the win is right there
Oh god. So many times.

>17 minutes in
>full enemy team wipe
>I start pinging the core
>they all scatter
>"guys we need camps"
No, you fucking nigger, we need to win the damn game while we have a free minute.
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>>173144667
>say gg when the game is obivously lost
>go farm lanes for the rest of the game
>get silenced
Maybe fix the matchmaking so these games lost in loading screen stop happening
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>go check out the most popular hots streamer right now
>see this
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>>173144815
Anon, I'm sorry to say this to you, but you are the problem. You're the cancer.
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>>173144667
it is totally possible to tie boxes to time, it's just petty as fuck for them to bother with extra old item tables they'd have to maintain.
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>>173144254
Same can be said for opening the veteran chests first.
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>win 8/10
>only plat 1
Nice memegame
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>>173144815

>30 seconds into game
>lose one objective
>one guy gets ganked
>you die
>someone else dies
>say gg

Youre cancer end it
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>>173144784
>2 people start backing off after a 64 second team wipe under their keep
>"no mana"

>>173145123
So if you got a Dehaka legendary skin from the veteran chest and then opened a common chest after it, you also had the choice to re-roll it into another legendary? No, you do not.
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>>173145139

Just win 3 games and get to diamond if youre so good
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>>173145310
I would actively reroll veteran boxes to get duplicates for shards anyway.
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>>173144815
What hero did you play?
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>>173142982
When it's the christmass morning, do you open the small shitty (clearly socks) presents first, or the big ones (xbox etc) ?

Exactly.

The best for last. Always.
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>>173145139
Winning only 8 out of 10 times against literal toddlers is pretty embarassing though. That rank is still too good for you.
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>>173145123
dumb dumb poster
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>>173144914
>>173145239
Maybe you would understand if you understood anything about this game. Enjoy the bronze rank
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So is Insight Kharazim still shit or am I just playing/building him wrong?
Since his rework I honestly have no idea how to play him anymore.
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>>173145441
I'm only rerolling if it contains skins or heroes I don't want.
If it's shards or a good skin/new hero, I'll take it no rerolls required.
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>>173145441
...Even more reason to open commons first, if you want a guaranteed re-roll chance to get the shards.
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>>173145637
IRONFISTS ALL THE WAY
>>
What's a good alternative to hotslogs? I'm sick of this adblock shit the owner is doing.
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>>173145637
Transcendence is pretty shit. I think it might be ok for PvE heavy maps, but overall Insight is better because you get both the heals AND high mana/mobility, rather than just mediocre heals.

Iron Fist solo support is totally doable though.
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>>173145871
Wait for the API coming in 2.0
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>>173145570
Ah yeah, those people who keep trying and don't give up, they totally fall into bronze, every time. Everyone knows you rank up when you give up!
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>>173145871
They talked about a new statistics system at the meeting, so we'll probably have new sites pop up on top of Blizzards own system within this year.
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>>173145570
Holy shit, are you that retard that sperged out having to take the terror as murky and then suicided with it doing absolutely nothing and then went on an autistic rant for an hour and a half in the /vg/ chat?
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>>173143658
Tried that spreadshit (both) and they are read only for me. Also i dont understand the
>lvl to 8-9 is not okay
>lvl to 9-10 is okay
Right now i am lvl ~250
>>173143695
Need that maximum profit.
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Ah, fuck me and this rotation


Why the fuck does the Butcher have to be fun? Is he just a pubstomper?
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>>173145882
>Insight is better because you get both the heals AND high mana/mobility, rather than just mediocre heals.
Maybe I'm just building him like a tard then. I went into deadly reach talents in the theory that more fast fists = short cooldowns = more heals.
Not sure where the rest of my talent choices are supposed to go though, other than the spirits, they're pretty clear cut choices.
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>>173146054
There's a special double crate drop (common + heroic) at 8 and a half or so.
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>Leddit cries about muh veterans are getting screwed on loot boxes
>Blizzard folds to the pressure
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>>173145882
The problem with Transcendence vs Iron Fist is that they can be compared to each other to begin with, where transcendence should be focusing on supporting your team, and Iron Fist on dealing more damage.

They should buff Transcendence heals, but make it only apply for team mates. That way you get way more free heals for when that is needed, but it would still make it situational, although viable in those situations.
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>>173146058
If you play safe and learn how to be patient, you will automatically be better than 99% of Butcher players.
He becomes a monster threat late game and with Lambs to the Slaughter, can easily take out someone in a teamfight, which is vital for that point of the game. A coordinated team could probably stop him.
Which means sure play him in Hero League.
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>>173146421
blizzdrone btfo

stay mad
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>>173146421
>implying it wasn't their plan all along so that they seem like the good guys while the players are happy with being hundreds of chests short
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>>173146421
>we can get our wishes through within a week
>it confirms they must've had a backup plan
>the game is probably dying behind the scenes
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>>173146745
Also, thousands of gems short. The gem rewards are not retroactive, and that is the real money currency in 2.0.
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>>173144898
M-muh dick
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>>173138157
>=!
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>>173146019
No, I'm not some cancer who actually joins a /vg/ chat
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>20k gold
Do I save it all, or do I waste it on heroes / the pig mount?
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>>173146421
This meme is still funny
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>>173147386
Go away Kot.
No blini here.
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>>173098856
Whom do i play freely without losing crates ? I am not very bright
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>>173148803
No rush, anon, hero purchases will remain the same after 2.0, but don't do mounts regardless.
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>>173147105
>The gem rewards are not retroactive
The 2.0 page says they are.
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>>173149142
>whom
Anyway, you'll be losing crates with every 500k-1mil exp you gain. You can play anyone under 11 and over 9, just don't level up.

You can also play anyone 7 and under, but each level up will cost you a crate. Honestly, it mightbe worth it now that they're giving us epic crates every 10 levels.
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>>173149239
The 1000 gem starter reward to lure you in as a customer will be given to everyone above level 5, but the 150 gems every 15 levels is not retroactive. Basically 2000+ gems right there.
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This will only hurt until you die
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>>173126123
"The Charmer" & "The Rebel"

So did the dude seduce the girl and she went with it because she's a rebel?
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I always feel so useless on Probius, like I'm wasting so much dmg waiting for those perfect detonations. I know I should spam W whenever I can, because even if it doesn't explode it's still utility. But what about Q? Use it for dmg, or hold on? What build? I practically every match go with cannon talents on 1 and 7 to make it not useless.
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>>173150158
At least he's not black
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>>173149360
Thanks
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Maybe if we spam the QA enough we can get blizzard to cave into updating Arthas' model too
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>>173135675
A robotic dog? I always got that vibe from the Protoss Probes as a kid.
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>>173150189

Dont wait for perfect detonations. Just hit them any way you can. Make the enemy afraid of your void zones, use cannon wisely. Q is good poke without a void zone and don't use rush in a panic, it will just come off again.
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>>173135892
Neon Spectre Tracer
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I have never ever played Starcraft.
How do Starcraft fans feel about the character selection for HotS?
Are they good choices?
Did your favorite make it in?
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>>173139821
Been playing since Closed Beta. Not all of us are hardcore like you. I'm quite the fucking casual.

But I'll be more active once my nig Kel'"Fifty Thousand Gold a Year in Childcare" Thuzad gets in the game/
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>Quest Talents were generating pings every second now properly ping every 5 seconds.
Does that mean no more dingdingdingdingding for quest talents in general? I.e. In The Rhythm doesn't do that super satisfying sound all duration long?

>Increased Radius: Abathur, ETC, Gul'dan, Viking green, Muradin, Misha, Sgt. Hammer, Thrall, Uther, Varian, Zagara
>Decreased Radius: Li Li, Tracer, Valeera
Does that mean they're easier/harder to bodyblock and inversly for bodyblocking others?

How big is the difference?
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>>173151439
>No Mengsk
>No Fenix
>No Stukov
>No Firebat
>Probius isn't a probe
>Tassadar isn't a High Templar
Gee anon, I love it
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>tfw nova
>tfw see meme slug hidden behind forts and walls
>tfw can't resist and suicide bomb him
worth it
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>>173151439
>got alarak and abathur
it's fucking excellent anon
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>>173138157
>=!
Try oracle database, pajet.
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Draenei hero when?
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>>173152154
Those are some insane farting hips
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>>173151439
I'm happy that Tassadar is in the game. Raynor is pretty great too. I do think they are good choices because there's really slim pickings. The only other main characters they could put in would be Fenix, Overmind,and maybe Mengst.

But I'm sure Blizzard will be able to be creative and make Heroes out of standard units like how they did with Lt. Morales. Overmind if possible would be a great addition even if it was retooled to be Abathur.

I'm sure they can think of something. Like this is how I see it. Give Overmind the core replacement treatment. Make it so Creep slowly pushes towards the enemy core. It stops at the middle in the middle lane at the start and either pushes forward or recedes back depending on what forts that lane are gone. Forts on your side are replaced with Sunken Colonies, Healing Fountains are Spawning Pools, Towers are Spore Colonies or some other SC2 defense buildings. Granted I didn't play much of SC2.. The Overmind can control these defenses manually during attacks if needed. So he could push back that pesky hero trying to attack it with a wave or something. I dunno what Creep could do but maybe it's just visual flair. Then again This creep could be confusing for a Zagara.

>Overmind on enemy team
>Other team has Tassadar
>Game doesn't let me do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLHylHr1FE
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>>173152154
Why would someone cut her horse cock off?
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>>173153641
She has a human cock.
It's still there but some magical shit makes it only appear when she pulls her panties off.
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>>173152154
Right after another literally who Orc hero.
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>>173153776
>human cock
What the fuck that's gay as fuck.
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>>173153931
It's worse.
Ballless
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>>173153961
Disgusting
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>>173150189
Alright, so here's the deal.
>Q
This is a powerful poke/aoe, but it's mainly there for your W. You can poke with it if you're waiting on charges, but mainly use it to pop waves in conjunction with your W, or surprise low-hp enemies. Less people in lane is better, your goal is not to kill.
>W
Area denial. You want to use WWQ to clear waves, WQ to poke structures (save a charge for escape, it's a massive aoe slow and you should be speedy). Hit as many heroes as possible. You don't need to have a chance to kill them; the harass will annoy them, stack your quest, and that means more damage to waves/structures later on and maybe an empty lane.
>E
Cannon is not useless. Use it to tank structures, push and freeze waves while you leave lanes or change lanes, siege faster, and prepare kills. It will not easily kill on its own, but your ideal situation for fighting is 2 obscured/hard to hit pylons with 1 cannon and your R ready. You do obscene amounts of damage they wont see coming; don't let the cannon fool you into thinking it does low damage.
>R
Take Pylon Overcharge. You want to use this for a few things, which I'll explain below.
>D
Use them to attract attention, offensively posture, and buy escape routes. They can do this because
>Traits
Take the quest to stack 20 disruption explosions, worker rush buff, and the Pylon Overcharge talent. the rest is up to you.
I take
>Warp Resonance, Turbo Charged, Tower Defense, Pylon Overcharge, Shield Battery, Gravity Well, Additional Pylons
>Playstyle
You want to be alone in a lane as much as possible. You're Azmodan roleplaying a probe. You should offensively posture with pylons for speed and many cannon locations, as well as Overcharge, because if people come, they will come in 2 or 3's. This is your goal: Do insane damage to waves & structures, bait in as many enemies as you can, and pop ult. After that, you should flee as fast as you can, or kite around cannons and rifts to delay your death.
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Why are the veteran chests capped? Who in the name of fuck has higher than 1000 combiner hero level? And if they have it then they fucking deserve those chests
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>>173154849
>character limit
Death is OK, especially if you take them with you. If you have a beneficial lane (think laning versus two mages/assassins), it wont be hard to hold down the fort, and this puts your team at an advantage. In all other cases, you should be abusing your speed an low clear-time to hop lanes quickly and prepare EZ sieges. This varies a bit by map.
As Probius, your goal is to force three scenarios over and over again:
>4v5 but your enemy loses their base faster than they can KO structures, even with objectives helping
>4v2 but 3 people begin chasing you, your team delivers here or you're all fucked
If this situation happens over and over again and your team doesn't win, you need to start changing your play. It is entirely possible for your team to play like concrete in an ocean.
>4v3 with 2 annoying carries struggling to kill squishy, fast Probius and your team gently pushing/taking objectives
Best case scenario, both teams are bad and you get #1. If the enemy team is good and they want to lock you down, you tend to end up with #2, because your team will not position themselves in advantageous locations, ready to push/take secondary objectives.
>Counterplaying people who are good and trying to lock you down
Probius is not a potent assassin, but proxypushing is extremely viable. Instead of ganking, you want to force the bulk of enemy heroes to leave behind just a few for your team to KO. You want to drag away enemies by clearing a wave, setting up a cannon, and fucking off. Watch the minimap and laugh as the 2 or 3 enemy heroes that were pushing on your base up and leave to kill your annoying ass, only to find a lonely pylon.
If nothing else can be trusted, set up defensively in the 'middle' of a lane, not unlike how I described offensive posture in the other post. Simply lock-down the lane and wait for someone to approach. You can catch squishies off-guard by zipping up to them.
Your offensive combo is DWEQ, to minimize warps.
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>>173155415

Litetally account level 1000. Nobody getting all 10, literally no one. Don't sweat it and just play. More levels now = more epic chests so just level shit like normal.
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>>173155610
>character limit
Final note: You should not be spamming. Your APM needs to be azn because Blizzard forgot what the fuck a Probe is and made a Sentry instead. Warps should not be generally used to harass as much as control areas and kill waves. Your enemy does a great job of walking into them on their own, especially if your options are exhausted and you actually need to work with teammates (a really, really bad sign for Azmodan and Probius alike).
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>>173155842
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>>173155926

>12500 games

he's alone at the top, i can assure you
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>Alright, this medic's mah new best friend!

Why can't more people be like Jimmy?
I'M LOOKING AT YOU ALARAK, YOU CUNT
I've had much better Assassins in my team too.
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I wish they would update /ourwarcheif/'s talents. I feel like he has one good build and thats it.
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>>173157638
but garrosh isnt even in the game yet!
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>>173157638
>>173157787
>implying
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>>173157638
no thanks. seeing how blizzard balances things hes gonna recieve the 40% winrate treatment
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>>173154849
>>173155610
>>173155920
Thank you Anon.
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>>173158252
who
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What the fuck do i do with that Rewards Estimator, i cant fill anything.
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>>173158556
It;s made by an inept redditor and won't tell you shit, convert manually through the chart.
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Am i fine my hero lvl + normal lvl is 222?
Can i just play everyone i have to lvl 8?
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>>173158705
Wow and i thought it could calculate you stuff with inserting numbers. Fucking reddit i hate them.
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>>173151583
they show master skins on the profile now? I remember leddit wanting this
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>>173158836
Each level up is a common crate and every fifth is a rare crate, at a faster pace than at above 9, but go for it.
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>>173158968
Profile shows any skin you're using, but only to you. Other people see default skins.
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>>173157173
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>>173159083
I am confused with the "dont level from 8 to 9 but you can lvl from 11 to 12" stuff.
What do i lvl now? Am i save to just lvl all my lvl 1 to 8?
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>>173159412
The only benefits of levels 1-8 are 3 times faster levels, meaning 3 times faster common crates. The benefits of the specific levels are special crates and double crate drops.
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Just ordered some plushes and an azmodunk t shirt from the gear store

[spoilers]Am i a faggot[/spoiler]
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>>173159585
I would too if the shipping to europe wasn't 30 bucks.
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>>173159684
second that
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>>173159549
And what about the veteran chests?
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>Q: How do you decide whether the skin should be legendary or epic? Are you going to add new voiceover to Desert Queen Zagara?

>A: With the introduction of Loot Chests, rarity has a much different meaning than before. It’s literally the rarity of an item now. For skins specifically, they were already using the language of Epic and Legendary, though the meaning had nothing to do with actual rarity and it felt really odd to have, say, a skin that was labelled as Epic dropping as a Legendary item in Loot Chests. So, we’ve had to reconcile that and change the labeling to fit the rarity they drop at in Loot Chests. The Loot Chest rarity is largely based on “cool factor,” which is pretty subjective and we expect to be making adjustments to rarities throughout the beta.

>This extends beyond skins. For example, right now all sprays and banners are Common and Rare items, but if we were to add something like the hotly requested “6.5/10” spray/banner, it may be a Legendary item.

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/63mtuc/heroes_of_the_storm_20_and_cassia_live_qa/

So the reddit Q&A is going on and this probably means they will not be changing or improving the skins they bumped up to legendary at all.

But a lot of non answers going on as I expected.

>Q: Will there be hidden skins and mounts (not listed in the Collection) which players can obtain in loot chests in Heroes of the Storm 2.0?

>A: For Loot Chests, with the 2.0 update, all the cosmetic items in a Loot Chest can be crafted with Shards, which means they need to appear in your Collection. There aren’t any items that drop from Loot Chests that don’t show up in your Collection for that reason. It’s possible we may do special items in the future that can’t be crafted, but that’s not currently something we’re planning.

So maybe more of a gacha system in the future. They also said they don't plan to do announcers for every character, they are just going to cherry pick.
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>>173160105
What about them? Definitely go for as many veteran chests as possible, at every 100th 2.0 level, but I don't think you can level up to get more than 1 extra, you'd need more time.
>>
>Win a game
>Tab out for a few minutes
>Tab back in to see someone from the game had invited me to a party
Fug
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>be a noob
>try ranked for the first time
>go 5/5 in placement matches
>apparently that's Silver 2
>go on a giant losing streak
>can't get out of Bronze 1
>the salt in allied chat is unbearable
>the matches are always one-sided, never interesting
>feel pressured to do well, which only worsens my play
>tilted all the way

Well this isn't fun at all.
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>even McIntyre hates to play against Valeera all time time in QM

Valeera was a mistake.
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>>173160204
I hate the reddit format, did the 6 of them only answer like 14 questions in 2 hours? There are like questions posted by blizzard that aren't even answered by them.
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>>173160329
So what should i do for maximum profit with lvl 222? Try reach lvl 300 while playing lvl 1 heroes to lvl 8?
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>>173160816
>apparently that's Silver 2
Winrate has nothing to do with placements.
I've seen 7-3s placed in plat and 6-4s placed into Diamond.
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Make brawl games reward you on wins only

Y/N?

it would stop people from throwing once they get killed twice
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>>173160896
In QM she is a pre-nerf nova with better CC, faster damage and more mobility/escapes
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why is this happening to me
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>>173160806
>people who think i am good sends me a friend request
>ignore it
>have several pending friend requests
this is why i main autistic lane pushing heroes
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>>173160896
Valeera is perfect and you better shut your whore mouth.
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>>173161075
Hell no, man if I had to do that hammer one with 3 wins that would have been the worst. If brawls were shorter maybe.
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>>173161026
Yeah. I think it's based on the player's QM MMR among other things, and having never checked, I had no idea where I would end up.
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>>173160816
Initial placement win rate doesn't matter.

>this isn't fun
I'd suggest trying to find satisfaction in your own play and improvement, not just the outcome of games.

>>173161278
Yeah, sort of. I played 18 or so Quick Matches on a fresh account, won 11I think, then went 7-3 in placements for Diamond III, 500 points.
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>>173161003
You've got less than 3 weeks. Go for it if you're sure you can do it. Might wanna buy the $5 bundle for the weeks stimpack. You're gonna get a guaranteed legendary and an epic every 10 levels, should be worth it.
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You can save your vet chests for future patches

>Contents for Loot Chests are rolled at the time they are first opened. We debated this for a while, but in the end figured that allowed more flexibility for players. You’ve earned the chests and if you want to hold onto it to open in the future rather than dive into it immediately, that’s your choice.

from blizz Q&A
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>>173161359
>5$
I live in EU so its probably 20€ for me.
As long as i dont miss anything out on lvling to 8 its k because you get special loot boxes at lvl 10 on a hero i heard.
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So in the future they aren't going to be doing master skins for new heroes, just giving them one of the pay skins.

>Since we’re retiring the concept of master skins, new heroes won’t have master skins created for them. We’re still planning for new heroes to have a launch skin when they come out, but whether they have a second one is more flexible. If the artists have a great idea for another skin they want to get out at launch, the possibility is there, but it’s not required.
We have a lot of plans for the new item types and doing some tie-ins to HGC is something we’re very interested in.
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>>173161616
Holy shit.
Hots team doing something better than Overwatch yet again.
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>>173161678
5€ for 7 day stim and 6 heroes or something. 20€ for the months stimpack and 8 heroes.

You wont "miss" anything, the only things you CAN miss are the veteran crates, they should be your top priority. Common crates will come over time and only contain shit in 9/10 of the crates.
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>>173161358
>I'd suggest trying to find satisfaction in your own play and improvement, not just the outcome of games.
The thing is, the one-sided nature of games, clear teammate's misplays and my own lack of pro skills, combined with the lack of positive feedback about what I did right or wrong, and the fact that each game loss matters and can send you backwards, make it quite a frustrating experience.
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>>173161616
All that means is
>They'll start adding legendary banners and emoticons and other trash into the crates and pretending they're rare
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Cassia is pretty much the least hype new hero ever
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>>173162237
It's clearly for misogynistic reasons.
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>>173162237
Kind of a bland kit and she was overshadowed by 2.0
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>>173162316
we already have sonyc for that
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>>173162237
We need yet another smug Diablo hero
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>>173162452
Which Diablo hero is the most smug?
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>>173162237
She requires stutterstepping for her trait to reach its full potential and shitters cant stutterstep

Today my friend bought Cassia and we played a match, he had shit dmg and a lot of deaths, he tells me Cassia is trash! Shit hero! Devs dont know what theyre doing!

I buy Cassia and get top kill, hero dmg and no deaths just to spite him
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>>173162237
And yet the best release in while.
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>>173162237
Meh.

What could have been.

>>173161914
Yeah, I get that. The idea is to take what you can from games, regardless of outcome. As for positive feedback you'll either need to read, watch streams/vods and/or have somebody take a look at a few of your replays to see what you could've done differently.

Just always look back and see if you could've played something out better, even if it worked out.
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>>173162613
She's great, maybe even a bit too overtuned. Shitters will still cry.
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>>173162612
Ching Ping
Azmodan
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>>173162612
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>>173161813
Okay good to know, thanks.
>>
YAMEROOOOO!
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>>173163703
nani?
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Do we have the exact date of 2.0 release? i am so fucking hyped and "in a month" doesn't cut it
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>>173164041
2.0 release is on their website.
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>>173164041
2nd of may
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>>173162725
Thanks for the advice senpai.

>>173164041
24th-25th, looks like.
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Noice 12k gold, wated to get a hero but fuck it imma gonna save it for rerolls since rerolling the veteran chests will be like having another chest, because i wouldn't used the shitty legendary i never wanted anyway
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>>173164285
>he thinks that's something
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>>173164285
Rerolls are neat, keep the devs at least a bit honest.
Full of shit? Reroll, less shit, more quality.
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>>173162912
I wanna fuck Li-Ming
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Double-Cross gets baseline in future patch!
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>>173164930
Finally.

Alarak's never had a level 4 talent before, perhaps he'll be usable now.
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>>173164930
it was the inferior talent anyway
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How do people go about using hotslogs now that they block you from using the site entirely when you run an adblocker to prevent their malware-ridden ads?
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So /hotsg/ Got any secrets you wish to share?

Ive been playing HotS since Johanna came out and I've only played QM and not once trying ranked or unranked
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>>173164930
>>173165142

>yfw it's actually Reckless Strike that gets baseline
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>>173165670
Probably not a secret but I've been playing since Morales came out, and I'm still as bad if not worse than I was at that point, I've had 0 improvement yet still come back to the game for some reason
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>>173164930
Please don't be a lie
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>>173165670
I got to level 5 with Tyrande without knowing she has a D ability
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>This happened
>In silver rank 3
I have no idea what the other team was thinking
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>>173166213
>silver 3
>""""thinking""""
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>>173165670
I didn't use quick cast for the first month of playing.
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>>173166323
It's silver, not bronze or quick play.
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>>173165670
I want to make love to Chromie
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>>173166213
That happens to me in diamond except we had a tank with last pick being a nova main
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>>173165670
I'm an alpha player that only does QM and ranks d3 once every 4 months
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>>173166387
>It's silver, not bronze
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>>173166213
stats?
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>>173166213
Did you lose?
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>>173165670
I'm level 16 and I've been playing since closed beta.I've played very sporadically since launch and 2.0 brought me back
>>
>Quit hero league because one day my teammates decide to BM at the enemy core instead of killing it causing us to lose at 1%
>Today almost lose a QM on Towers of Dooms because Johanna has to do le ebin suicide into the enemy base while we're defending a keep
>Soon 2.0 is going to add more taunts causing even more retards to throw games
Please make it stop
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>>173166213

>nobody tries because they think the game is won because of the bad enemy team comp
>lose

every single game in the genre has this happen
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>>173166629
How
>>173166681
See here
>>173166763
Hell no, I don't see how such a scenario would be possible in the first place. I was on blue team if you have to ask
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Sorry for the retarded question but anyone here have experience with LoL? How easy is this game to play/climb in comparison? I'm mid platinum in League.
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>9:43 game
>Versus a 5-man stack
>It was an utter stomp
>FOR MY TEAM
>I didn't die once and got MVP

Is there no better feeling than this?
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>>173167302
Very easy in comparision. I think in league the best you could place is gold, in hots on a new account you can be placed all the way up to diamond 3. The grind is more from diamond 3 and up, but it's definitely easier.
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>>173167261
Sometimes people just want to play a particular Hero. In ranked. Sort of unavoidable.

Also; I've seen all Assassin comps work out around Diamond I. Usually the safer bet to just stick with the "standard" comps, though.

>>173167302
Significantly easier in just about every regard. The exception perhaps behind the fact we have a dozen maps each with their own little meta, sort of like the rotating game modes.

They don't take long to learn, though, and they only matter so much.
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>>173167641
Okay, thanks anon.
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There are 2 things I don't understand about this game:

Why is the Gravekeeper such a huge nerd?
Why doesn't he fuck off back to his Haunted Mines?
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>>173166213
That doesn't stop when you get out of silver.
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buy cassia with gold or just play ptr till 2.0 is live?
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>>173166992
hahah you should play QM in ptr. literal cancer. but i do it anyways cause cassia too fun
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>>173169171
Play PTR.
There's no reason to play live atm.
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>>173167302
If you're plat in league you could probably be diamond in hots easily and master/GM if you put time in to get good at it
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https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/63mtuc/heroes_of_the_storm_20_and_cassia_live_qa/dfvn6a5/
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>>173170070
>There's no reason to play live atm.

How exactly does this logic work?
If you are talking about the game itself then it is literally the same in both versions.
If you are talking about rewards, you keep nothing from PTR so there would be even less reason to play it over live.
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>>173170272

>maybe
>maybe
>maybe

awesome Q&A thanks for the excellent response blizz
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>>173170318
you will lose out on chest if you actually level characters in live before 2.0 hits
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>>173171250

But you lose out on epic chests and veteran chests if you don't.
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>>173171364
every what level do i eexactly get the chests? last time i checked i was like 250 lvl
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SHE MADE IT!
Even though people were saying she'll never make it!
Yay!
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>>173171726
shes really fun in ptr. and pretty cheap too, in terms of the shards
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>>173171726
And her kit is that of an actual Amazon, unlike Xul. Fucking good.
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>>173171726
if only she actually looked that cute in the game
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>>173172154
you can see under her skirt anon, from the front even ;))

also whos making the new bread???
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>>173172137
The amazon in D2 didn't have blinding light, or ball lightning.
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>>173172269
i didnt even try to look cause shes ugly af
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Any Rexxar mains here? How do I play him effectively?
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>>173168068

"Azmodan has high HP, he's our tank!"
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>>173172269
>also whos making the new bread???
>only 480 replies
?
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>>173172465
If you don't think she has the most attractive face of all females in this game you're downright fucking gay, pal.
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>>173172442

Blinding Light is just a take on True Sight. Just backwards.
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Why are those reddit questions so shit
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>>173170837
half of that is people asking stupid ass questions.

>"Hey when are adding x hero"
>"Are you adding voice chat/guild system"
>"Other mobas have X, can we have X too?"
>"When is x hero or skin getting reworked"

This shit gets asked every Q&A wether at Reddit or Blizzcon. and the answer is always the same.

The other half is this UI designer dodging questions like he's in the matrix, holy shit.
>we're working on it
>Good idea/suggestion, we'll look into it
>non-answers for days
I want his job, it looks like he doesn't do shit.
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>>173172580
im getting red lines / shrug
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>>173170837
>expecting answers from a Q&A

It's all about that sweet PR
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>>173172615
if i were gay i wouldnt play this game theres 0 cute boys
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>>173170318
>play live
>level hero
>whoops there goes my loot box
That's why, retard.
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>>173173025
trapgod plays so there are cute boys
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>0 gameplay questions apart from is x getting a rework
what is this garbage
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>>173173025
Patently false.
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>>173172792
Most people who ask questions try to suck the devs cock as hard as possible so they ask shitty softball questions.
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>>173173210
who
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>>173172904
red lines tell you where you last look at when you tabbed out
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>>173173430
ahh, im on vanilla 4chins, w/o my 42 extensions. usually for me red line bump limit
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>>173172982
Some decent questions got asked and answered though

>Why are some epics legendary now
To padd the legendary pool

>Will new heroes still get master skins
they won't

>"Can we disable the sprays and shit"
We can't

>"What will happen to seasonal events, will we get those shitty OW seasonal lootboxes as well"
i don't know, they haven't answered yet
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>>173172442
Blinding Light is True Sight but negates attacks as opposed to makes them more vulnerable to them, and Ball Lightning is her only made-up ability, but I could see it being an evolved form of Lightning Fury. The spell effect of Lightning Fury looked like a ball with a lightning trail, but it splintered off into several lightning bolts. It's possible it used ot be Lightning Fury, but for the sake of coherence was changed to a simple bouncing ball so it didn't get mixed up with other possible lightning bolts.
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>>173173658
>events

I knew i should;ve bought that lunar new year bundle for nimbus fug u hotsg you said dont buy it
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>>173170272
>>173170837
>>173172825
>Go into a den of retards
>Act surprised you encounter a bunch of retards
This is like queuing with people from /hotsg/ then bitching when they pick illidan and feed what else do you expect
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>>173173252
how is he supposed to give a good succ with that meatgrinder mouth

also why do you think xe's a boy
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>>173173849
>not liking teeth during a succ
wew fucking normies
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>>173173849
>also why do you think xe's a boy
Well he is a king
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>>173173658
DID SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT PADDING POOLS? WELL DON'T MIND IF I DO!

I fucking knew rhey'd be looking into adding more taunt animations and shit for the sake of fucking bloat on their slot machines.
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>>173173984
i only have 1 willy my man how am i supposed to feel them kimochis after placing it in that pencil sharpener of a mouth
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>>173173849
>thinking you're the one who's gonna get serviced by the Crypt Lord and not the other way around
Someone's looking to get wrapped.
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>>173174024
Yeah, fuck that shit.
What I do want are the hero screens. There was some real neet shit in there, having to look at Probius' for a month was painful.
They HAVE the data already. Just make it a hero-specific rare/epic drop or something, fuck. Minimal bloat, as it's only 1 per certain heroes, but it'd make a lot of people happy.

I want that Dehaka screen, seriously.

As far as cosmetics are concerned. Actual mechanics wise, I'm happy they did mention reconnect mechanics are getting looked at right now.
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>>173174024
>victory poses
>when most people leave halfway through he MVP screen
What a waste
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>>173174431
i have a few cans of raid so yeah im on top
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>>173174649
God, this is exactly the kind of shit I want out of this loot system, and I can't believe they're showing no signs of actually adding them in.

I miss Zul'jin's login screen so much.
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>>173175059
Because it'd mean reworking the old ones.
it wasn't untill sylvanas release that they starting animating them.

most of them had some default art thrown in.
here's the screen from azmo+anub release
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>>173174024
>Victory poses for the MVP screen

They can fuck right off with that.
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>>173174860
Well then, the solution to that is pretty damn simple now, isn't it?
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>>173175649
the only thing i want them to fix is the notification for new shit in your collection, while it might work for overwatch since they only have a dozen or so heroes, scrollign ednlessly to get rid of that number is a chosre in hots. they need to implement a "read all" option... or a search bar
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>>173177315
Increase the amount of time you have to wait until you can skip? Those fucking cunts.
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>>173104224
So i can level anyone from 9 to 10?
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>>173165670
The only heroes I play are Raynor and Muradin
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>>173135675
Thanks doc
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So there's still no reason to play, right? There's just retarded chest now?
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>>173129513
>>173130659


Y'all got any more Li Li?
lewd is acceptable
send links
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Default Xul is Xul's best variation, huh?
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>>173179478
>reason to play
for fun or for egoboost rank
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Lightlord Ragnaros when?
I want to hear him and Alarak sass each other.
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tfw you get 3 balls bouncing at enemies
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dead game?
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>>173180421
They don't have enough HP in that team to have this happen. That would outright kill Jaina, Kael AND Tracer by pure damage alone.
It needs to bounce like 12 times (1 bounce per second + 12 * 4 s CD reduction = 60) to get a second one out, and then these two have to bounce each ~7 times (7s bounce time + 7 * 4s * 2 = 63) to get a third one out.
Each of these will deal 439 damage minimum, more if your targets are blinded, slightly less because high spell shields only last very shortly.
That's still 11k damage across the enemy team. This doesn't happen unless it's a teamfight, because they'll just disperse.
This doesn't happen IN a teamfight, because it takes place over 19 seconds of NOONE of the enemy team disengaging despite the balls, and NOONE of your own team actually finishing the fucking job and killing some low health shit.

Fabricated and gay, just like you after I suck your dick, fucking faggot.
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>>173161075
Thats the dumbest shit i ever read in these threads
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>>173172484
Change his trait keybind to 1
Change his selfcast trait keybind to D
Kill enemy heroes
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>>173177718
no, give people gold for voting/being a top5
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>>173173759
I just bought nimbus as a stand alone on EU some day ago?
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>>173172825
Is it really his fault when he's questioning where red tape comes in/if what he says next could be grounds for him breaking NDA's on accident?
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>>173151850
>not having your own abathur to kill their abathur well you follow him stealth.
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>>173168068
>>173166213
honestly you could've blacked out everything but nova and it would still be funny

Would nova be better if her lvl20 ult was a literal braxis-nuke?
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>>173161140
was a bug months ago. can let it sit there at it might sort itself out after a while but it's probably going to be faster just to delete the install folder and re-download everything. hopefully it was it was quick and you already got past it by now.
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Man, I'm not even close to the cap. Should I bother? I'm at 46 crates, 3 being veteran crates.
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>>173182608
Nope, cuz retards will always take triple tap because
>"Lol what why take orb strk? T tap does like double the damage and nvr miss"
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>>173151439
I like them, I am disappointed that tassadar does not have an ult to crash a carrier into the enemy.
I wish we had hunter killer, tarrasque, unclean one, or devouring one as their own heroes. I am also disappointed we have hammer over duke, and no Fenix, shezar. Hopefully with the HD broofwar coming out Fenix can once more rise from the ashes.
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>>173155415
because it's funnier that way. don't make it brain dead simple and give the basic chests 1:1 to people then put a cap on it just to show them who is in charge. don't forget to be thankful they are doing anything!
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>>173182783
Lvl up lower level heroes.
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>>173181365
this is the best reply i have ever gotten, thanks senpai
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>>173161075
They should award 75% hero EXP
I really don't get why you it doesn't already do that
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>>173182887
Depends on the map and the enemy team comp.
Triple tap is better for squishy teams especially at level 20 where you can just spam it as long as you play it smart. Orbital strike is better on maps like towers or blackhearts where you can disrupt objectives.
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>>173165670
I honestly believe that Hero League is a gigantic waste of time and that anyone looking for that experience is better off playing assfaggots 2 where you have much more control of personal entertainment.
>>173166594
http://i.imgur.com/XDp9pIA.png
This got updated a bit.
>>173166667
In the same boat as this gentleman.
>>173179847
Please do not lewd the Li Li and stop bugging anons who think they know how to play this game well but very clearly fucking cannot.
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Is there any reason to NOT pick exploding bones over anything else on Xul?
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>>173184041
Evasive bones if enemy team has lots of dakka.
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How are people building Cassia? It seems like the only real choices are at level 7 and 13
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"I can solo heal tyrande"

>proceeds to take seasoned marksman at 1
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>>173185585
>tyrande is not a solo healer

hate this meme
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>>173185585
What's wrong with that?

Even if she's going to healslut, she's better off with a damage builder.
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>>173185974
>>173185996
Her heals were terrible throughout the match, we needed someone to stop all the dive heroes like Uther or Brightwing.

You can solo heal as tyrande but you better be really fucking good at it.
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who don't like Blackheart's Bay

Explain yerselves ya blaggards.
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>>173186917
>really fucking good at it
not even that is required. it requires only patience on your E and D.
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>>173187075
it snowballs way too fucking easily
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>>173187075
>win the game without attacking buildings

yeah it's pretty fun
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>>173185996

She could go owl build and do both.
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>>173187075
>Snowball's Bay

what is there to like about it
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>>173186917
>You can solo heal as tyrande but you better be really fucking good at it.
You can't really, her heals are terrible, when you play with a tyrande healer you need to just blow someone up quick
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>>173187493
snowball brawl was the best to t.b.h.
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>>173184041
Evasive is the best, reduce damage from spells and AA since you dont take AA damage
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>>173184041
Evasive is the best.

Explosion only if you are going to go TF build, but even then. Meh.
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>>173187476
>owl build
Yeah sure, if you wanted to be doubly useless.
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>>173185047

All of her choices are fine desu. She has better talent diversity than most of the cast.
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Mecha-Diablo skin when
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>>173137226
that looks better than the orcs in the warcraft movie
why?
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>>173191315
Because is a 4 minutes video not a full movie.
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>>173157787
>>173157638

SERVE THE HORDE OR BE CRUSHED BENEATH IT
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>>173191031
The reason we HAVE Mecha skins is because of Kaijo Diablo. Having the Mecha's main enemy be a Mecha as well is silly.

Purple Kaijo is best Kaijo
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Arthas is so much fun
>early game ganking with roots and slows
>Winning every tank duel with -atk speed aura
>Pop Icebound Fortitude, Anti magic shell.and eat every ult/stun/cc they throw at you
>Holding objectives 4v1 because you have heals for days
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>>173193538
I'm glad someone was autistic enough to say this. This way I didn't have to.

I want a Kaiju map. We're already gigantic. Make a big map of Tokyo, be done with it.
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>>173132382
it was always unlisted
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>>173194512
>Half of the map is themed to be a big utopian city with a skyscraper as the core, for one team's base
>The other half is a beach with monstrous crustacean structures, the core being a massive sea creature's heart for the other team.
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>varian, diablo, johanna, auriel and zarya
vs
>kharazim, falstad, leoric, abathur, sylv

GREAT MATCHMAKING BLIZZ
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>>173195719
>play random comp mode
>complain about random comp
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>>173195719
>Falstad ends up not taking Giant Killer and plays like a pussy mage instead
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>>173195719
>Leoric
>Solo Warrior-ing

God this fucking triggers me. They need Leoric and Stitches to be considered Bruisers and not Warriors in QM. I can't fucking begin to tell you how many games were lost just because somebody felt like playing Leoric or Stitches, and the system told them to go fuck themselves for picking them.

>>173195997
Random comp is one thing, but they could make a few more tweaks to make it more fair. As it stands, you flat out can't play some heroes just because they're at such a huge inherent disadvantage, and that's pretty terrible.
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>QM Hammer never goes into siege mode
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>>173197249
>QM Abathur never leaves spawn
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>>173197249
>QM illidan keeps solo feeding a Nova and pings for help
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4 questions to maximize my gains in 2.0
1st what heroes are safeish to play? like are level 1s good? Or like level 5s?
2nd should I put in the grind to get to player level 40 since im 38
Also my profile says my total hero level is 120 but the calculators I find online seem to always say my new level is gonna be in the 50s.
And finally do heros I dont own count towards my future player level? Like if I dont own 5 heroes do they count as level 1s towards my level or not at all?
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>>173197249
>QM Hammer goes into siege mode to attack a hero in normal attack range

>>173197603
>QM Abathur doesn't hard counter the nova

>>173197725
>QM Illidan
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>>173194512
>Giant Li Li walking through a city

Muh
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Are there any guides to this game? Suggested builds or anything like that?
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>>173200931
Quite a few, but many cannot be trusted.

Use your brain, try out possible builds in try mode, and make educated decisions based on what you see.
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>>173200931
Google icyveins + name of your hero
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>>173200931
I know it sounds elitest but you should only use guides from icyveins, etc as a template to understand why they would be good in some games.
But every game you play generally has a pattern of threats that you should build your talents around. Exactly this >>173201145
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I'm messing around in the PTR and I opened up Zul'jin from a box. Man, I hope my real boxes are as nice. I would love to have the last couple of heroes unlocked.
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>>173199657
>>173195036
It would be so fucking sick. If they can do Ravenlord vs. Gravekeeper/Angels vs. Demons, they can make each side look different. And it would be amazing.
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>>173201786
>tfw I got the same legendary wolf mount tint twice
>also got a slightly different legendary wolf mount
I hope mine are a bit different
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What a stomp.

Diamond 5hit
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>>173145139
I won 8/10 and got in G5 how bow that
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I must be a moron, because I actually find shit like Valeera's embarrassed emoji being vanished or Jaina's cool emoji being frozen pretty fucking cute.
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>>173201786
They said that the boxes on PTR are going great, and if they do change the drop rates at all they'd say it in the patch notes when 2.0 comes up.
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>>173202708
I just meant I hope I get as lucky. I'm admittedly rerolling a fuckton, but getting two heroes I don't have (Zul and Probey) was really nice.

I wonder just how much shit I'll end up owning in two weeks.
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>>173202689
Nah, I'm with you. There's a lot of really good/cute ones. I'm only upset with moving over into a fucking mobile game cash shop type of system.
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Is it ever a good idea to take Rune Tap?
It sounds really useful but the other 2 talents available are really good too.
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>>173179847
Li Li is pure and not for lewds
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Do you heed the voice of Elune, /hotsg/?
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>>173206672
I heed the voice of dat ass
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>>173206710
Shit taste, anon
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Tyrande and Uther rework FUCKING WHEN?
They are both great concepts but the execution is so damn terrible. Both underpowered as shit.
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My friend wants Malthael and Cydaea in the game, what do I tell him?
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>>173208639
Never ever.

I want a spider Hero, damn it.
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>>173208639
Not happening in 2017.
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>>173208440
Tyrande doesnt need one

Uther rework is coming soon it was tested in the streamer summit.
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>>173208639
We've already got our Diablo hero for the year.
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>>173209004
Tyrande definitely needs one, she is also getting one they said probably after Uther.
>>
So is 2.0 a good thing or a bad thing overall?
>>
>>173209543
With the exception of not being able to purchase anything at any time I'm not sure there are any downsides. Free cosmetics, etc.
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>>173209543
It only fucks you over if you have been or were planning on, spending money on the game.

It's perfect for anyone who will not ever spend a dime on the game.

HOWEVER, that's the way it is right now. I foresee some shit being added over the course of a year or so to change it up a bit, because there's no way they would just allow you to obtain absolutely everything for free, with no sort of drawbacks or something. I'll bet it's going to be good for now, but they'll be easing in some other shaft without us taking too much notice.
>>
How can someone be this mad at this game? This isn't even ranked, I'm only level 21.
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>>173209979
Don't be stupid, he is literally role playing, his name is lord of hatred.
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>>173209979
A man's gotta live up to his name.

It's probably a smurf account of someone. Consider taking at least a partial hint, you might not know everything.
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>>173209543
Cosmetic bullshit has no impact on the game and the whole ordeal represents wasted dev time, so it's a bad thing
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>some guy giving me shit because I played Rehgar "like an Assassin"
>even though I healed 39% of the team's damage

What do these people expect?
You can't sit back as Rehgar, he's not Malfurion, he has tools to kill shit too.
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>>173210092
I asked if he was being ironic, there is no way he was roleplaying.
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>>173209876
Honestly though, I think they might

They're gonna count on the people with addiction problems to buy tons of boxes. While the average user might buy a couple of boxes here and there, thy know there's a small percentage of people who go real fucking hard with the gambling RNG loot box thing.

Hearthstone did it with their card packs, just like regular card packs.

Overwatch does it with their loot boxes (and especially with their season loot boxes, holy shit their Christmas and Lunar New Year's shit was nuts)

And now Heroes will have it too. And if anything, Heroes is still advertising for the rest of Blizzard's games. Having cross promotional shit between their other games means more exposure. The nexus challenge thing for Overwatch skins and the like.
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>>173210115
>I know how game development works: the post; the reckoning 2
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>>173210254
Are you sure? My post was sarcastic and you didn't notice it. Maybe he was rping.
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>>173209979
I don't know, I just ignore people the moment they say something stupid or make a stupid spam ping.
>>
>>173208926
Any particular reason why?

>>173210115
Artists can usually do extra stuff on top of a regular workload, so it should be fine, actually
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>>173210115
cosmetics are literally how they make money on the game....
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>>173209004

Tyrande rework was confirmed, though I'm pretty worried about it. Their standard rework style doesn't suit Tyrande who needs options and not 3 ways to do the same thing each tier.
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>>173210537
From Genji to Stukov, there are already too many known heroes about to be released. Even if they start now, they won't get in the release queue until 2018.
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>>173210613
That would suck, she use to be so good because she had so much versatility but they've kind of watered down her specs and you mostly go owl. All they really need to do is buff her damage spec and give her a little mobility probably when she casts her Q give a speed buff baseline. She doesn't need much but her non-owl builds need help.

The Uther rework sounds insane though, they are giving him a decent damage spec while still being able to heal better than before. But they are also giving his heal tyrande's heal effect that heals him for 50%, but without the drawback of her not being able to heal herself for the full amount. That is why her heal should give a speed boost baseline, the heal is weak but you use it for the utility.
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>>173210308
How am I suppose to detect sarcasm by text when you use the world literally
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>>173210930
Actually, people who don't suffer from autism or other mental disabilities can easily detect sarcasm over text.
>>
>>173123328
I'd be a good goy if that meant I could fuck Lucio's boypussy.
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Is there any reason to play Xul anymore? Really does not feel like it. lmaopowercreep
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>>173211132
>Is there any reason to play Xul anymore?
his voice
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>>173112367
Do I need to be logged on google to use this?
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>>173126131
It's not only the chests, the fucking qm is utterly fucked because there are too few people playing.
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>>173209979
He's just always mad that Mephisto still isn't in the game.
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>>173126123
>hot guy standing close to a female
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>only Rehgar skin that gives him red skin is that dumb looking Ironclaw armor one
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>>173132720
Link?
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>>173143020
>does it get better?
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>>173143020
>temple
>be leoric
>we are 15 v 16 and 1 person down
>clearing big wave bot lane
>suddenly the other three people want to engage top
>ping retreat
>they all die 5v3
>diamond 3 game
most of the time they barely understand even talent disadvantage, that triggered me because it's like I go to clear a lane for xp for like one fucking second and that is the time they need to fight over a few shots on the top temple when we are 4v5 anyway
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>>173211762
Every orc should have a brown, red and grey recolor desu
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>>173212481
>Sjw's ruining Ogrimmar.
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>>173193538
What am I looking at here?
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>>173193538
>that Ragnaros dance
>that Valeera at the wrong place at the wrong time
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>>173213675
An april fool's day video someone made.
>>
>Valeera's promo image teases Stukov's eggs
>yeah, he's the next hero, all right
>month past
>next hero is rollerblade nigger
>"will we have any teases of the next hero?"
>"well, you might have seen him teased somewhere already, tee hee"
>nice, so it'll be Stukov now
>it's a probe that's not even a probe
>well, Stukov must be somewhere soon
>Grandmazon
>Genji
>Overwatch event female

>Lunara got literallly the shittiest made Maiev skin just to taunt us
>Q&A guy said "KT is still on the 300+ list of characters that we want to add some day :^)"

Never ever ever...
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>>173214635
>Maiev
Hearthstone gets maiev before we do.
>Kel'Thuzad
Dead figuratively and literally
>Stkov
Blizzard: We feel like we took important heroes from diablo and starcraft already
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>>173214635
>"well, you might have seen him teased somewhere already, tee hee"
???
>>
Dual warrior

Does it work if your team has a specialist or not?
>>173214635
>teases Stukov's eggs
No it didn't
>>
>>173106817
d3 is FUN now. The meme is over.
>>
>>173214635
> Overwatch event female
Source?
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>>173215319
Odds are the event wont even be for Overwatch.
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>>173215112
some PR guy twitted it before Probius got announced

>>173215319
Overwatch event is basically confirmed, with new map and Genji. French HotS 2.0 lists "new hero" as next after Amazon (Genji) and "new heroINE" after him
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>Each item in a loot chest is random, so the potential exists to open a loot chest with all legendary items, for example, but the system also ensures you can't go too many items before it guarantees a higher rarity drop.

in other words reroll every loot chest if you don't get at least one item of chest rarity+1
>>
>>173215520
I opened some chests on the PTR and it seems like you get an item of rarity +1 more often than not. It'd probably be best to roll until you get 2+ of those items, or one of 2+ rarity.
>>
>>173215520
Odds are if you're rolling common crates, you'll only get common tokens for like 8 rolls in a row before even hitting your first rare, and the next epic wont happen until you've had 6 rares.
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>>173215112
Something along those lines prior to the release of Probius. I think a few people thought it was that one Protoss engineer fellow. sry sc2 isn't my thing

Guess he was referring to the trailer.

>>173215468
Cardstone, perhaps?

I wonder which Heroes they might be giving out.
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>>173215675
I've opened around 30 common chests on ptr so far and never did it happen that I didnt get a rare in either the initial drop or the first reroll.
the drop rates seem extremely generous right now.
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>>173215782
Yeah I'm fearing they want the Hearthstone audience now that the new expansion is being pushed out. Giving them a new exclusive portrait hero or whatever it's fucking called.

Basically means don't buy Valeera until we know what the event is for.
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>>173215791
I guess the rare quality items are shit's worth anyway so they can easily be generous with them.
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WHEN IS 2.0???
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>>173215998
I guess.
It's just that pulling 2 legendaries from my initial 5 common loot chests left a permanent image after coming from jewstone but after looking into it some more they can give them out like candy since even legendary is filled to the brim with shit.
>>
>>173216127
Why ask?
>>
>>173216210
The odds aren't all that much higher compared to Hearthstone or especially Overwatch, so basically 1.5% for a legendary drop. (Out of 480 samples)
>>
That zerg chromie was just an april's fool right?
RIGHT?
>>
>>173216127
I popped in not long ago and I still have no idea what the fuck 2.0 is
>>
>>173216623
overwatch: heroes of the storm edition. everything you bought is now box trash!
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>>173216127
>WHEN IS 2.0???
NEVER
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>>173216703
>I haven't payed real money for shit
Well I mean, does this actually change anything for me if I don't plan on spending a dime?
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>>173216770
Sure. Even more, it gives u a chance to get even a legendary skin from a lootbox. Great patch.
>>
>>173216820
Reeee the freeloaders win again reeee
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>>173216820
Yay me
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>>173216770
not really. buying characters for gold and quests are staying. think they are tailing off gold discounts some because characters will be in boxes too. if you have plenty of characters or gold banked already 2.0 is kind of nothing.
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>>173216770
2.0 is purely extra stuff.
>heroes can still be bought for gold, same as always
>$$ prices for heroes are lower
>skins still buyable with $$ on release or when they are on sale, but also available from boxes and shard crafting
>some more cosmetic stuff, emojis sprays and other shit

So basically, worst case scenario: you're getting some useless stuff. Better case scenario is you're getting cheaper heroes and some skins for literally FREE

The ONLY situations where you're losing something with 2.0 is if you're an autist who thought master skins meant anything/looked good and are salty that anyone can get them now; or if you're a good goyim buying skins with $ on other ocassions than when the skin is new or when it's on sale
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Teach me this map.
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>>173217962
Play more and git gud
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Do I get Amazon, y/n? I can't decide.
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>>173218105
If you're stupid, yes.

35% win rate and 15k gold.
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>>173217962
If you have a specialist that can't teamfight like fucking azmodan
I think it's fucking horrible
Otherwise if I got it right you want to balance the other game by not dying/winning teamfights/teamfighting/having at least someone splitpush

Get fucked if you have a nova (as usual)
Deathball is win
Fight all day
kill camps
Pay pirate
Blow up building
>SUDDENLY XP LEAD
and so the ball of snow grows bigger
>>173218121
I don't think that's a fair assessment
the QM Cassia's play like illidans or shitty valeeras
that is, stealth up, dash into 5 man, die instantly (minus the stealthing)
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>>173218121
Well I'm pretty fucking retarded. But I guess I'll wait. That fucking bad? Jesus, she doesn't even seem bad at all. My guess is she needs some Spell Armor somewhere, because lmao everything worth playing is based off of ability damage, they keep buttfucking AAers so much, there's no reason to play them, so her existence is moot.
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>>173218178
>balance the other game
meant balance the early game
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>>173121832
Sup bronzie?
>>
>queue for ranked
>internet spazzes for a milisecond
>get disconnected
>4 QM games + points lost in ranked
Nice meme
>>
>>173218178
>Azmodan can't teamfight
Literally bursting squishies down from afar with black pool'd dunks is not good enough for you it seems

Li-Ming takes a good 70% HP when her spellshield is down, so do most healers.
If you globe a couple of times with black pool active, you will have done your job.
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>Get 3 Warriors on one team
>Somewhere out there, somebody is going into a 4 Assassin 1 Probius game against a 5 Assassin team complete with waveclear

Spread. Warriors. Out. More. Holy fuck, Blizzard, this shit standard.
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>>173219618
>Literally bursting squishies down from afar with black pool'd dunks is not good enough for you it seems
>from afar
Don't you need to drag the game out for that?
Blackheart games don't give you that luxury do they?
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>>173181365
Is this sad, or impressive? Hmm..
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>>173219989
All you need to do is to get your 25 sieging wrath stacks before you hit 10, which is when you become active in the game.
Azmodan's early game is absolute dogshit tho, he's not very useful for anything other than soaking and doing his quest until he gets black pool + completes Sieging Wrath.
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>>173216309
Per coin or per chest? I assume it's per coin, since OW is basting something like an 12% chance of at least one to all four legos per chest.
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>>173220453
How easily are the boxes earned for free in Overwatch?
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>>173220570
1 every level. 22k for a level, ~2k exp for a 10 minute quickplay.
3 free lootboxes every week in arcade that only require 3 wins each, but give just as much xp.
There's a firs win/friend/group/consecutive game xp bonus, too.

All in all, I think a lootbox every 2 hours of playing.
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>>173220831
Interesting. Considering it's a full priced game and the legendary rate seems to be 7% from 30,000 crates, I can't see HotS having even close to that. Be prepared to open close to 50 chests before seeing your first legendary.
>>
Anything interesting come out of the Q&A yet?
>>
>>173224123
"Yet", it's over, and no. Just PR and avoiding questions.
>>
>>173224183
Oh well I didn't have high hopes anyways. But why even bother hosting a Q&A in the first place if you aren't gonna answer questions anyways.
>>
>>173224348
Publicity. It's working so well and makes reddit go "Oh they're so awesome with the community" so much I'm cringing at the term 'community' every time I see it.
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>>173224123
Eh, about what was expected.

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/63s3x1/heroes_20_qa_bulleted_recap/
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>>173224348
They know how to answer the right questions with the right answers so that everyone's happy.
>>
Anybody else sit there and curse at their team, and question them. But never audibly say anything to them in chat?

The most I'll do is passive aggressive bullshit. Because goddamn, sometimes I need to say -something-.
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>>173227153
I sometimes rage loudly but don't usually type anything into chat. In my weaker moments, I try to at least offer constructive criticism, with occasional passive-aggressive remarks if I'm really tilted. I love to troll ragers, though.
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>>173227153
Everyone, I'm assuming. I pity those who actually get silenced, they might as well be serial killers.
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>>173139840
it says
Long live Hogger
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>>173227153
In really bad games I wait until someone does something right, and then pointedly praise them. Explicitly and exclusively them.
>>
>>173227782
>That guy everyone thinks is gay and wants to fuck them.
>>
can i get a quick rundown on tyrael? i think he's really fun to play but idk if i'm doing him right. should i get the quest at lvl 1 or something else? im very new at this game btw
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>>173232593
Globe talents only on maps where you can gather them quickly, i.e. Braxis by getting the free orb, firebat camps and the waves regularly, or Tomb of the Spider Queen where you can rotate between lanes.

Pick Smite, the other level 1 talents lose value the better you play.

Holy Ground on 16 is one of the best talents in the game, get some practice with it.

He's anti mage, so dive in with teammates and harass backline.

Check IcyVeins or Grubby for a general rundown.
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>ragnaros banned nearly every game
>nobody cares about Anub domination
>nobody drafts unkillable Sonya
>ETC

wew lads
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What the fuck did they do with Tassadar?
How come now i cant i do any damage or have free ghost walk. Cant even do any damage with weak beam attacks, killing sole creeps is taking forever.
Fuck Blizzard for ruining my man Tass
>>
Do all summons give Auriel energy? Like Xul skellies, Zag hydras, etch chetera. Or is there anything similar that doesn't?
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>>173236079
>play a comp that is good against rag
>don't ban rag
>enemy team blindly picks rag because for once it's not banned
>they lose
Also Anub is probably only played when the enemy goes for a team he can shit on
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>>173236223
Tass is fun once you hit level 20 and can stay in archon mode forever
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>>173236079

>medivh
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>>173236223
>Hero so OP competitive players agreed to permanently ban him pending nerfs
>complaining about his auto-attack

jesus christ
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>>173236392
Look at the data. Most popular and succesful heroes are all spell dmg types.
With Tychus being kill, Raynor general shit and nobody able to play Greymane Anub got free reign.
>>
>>173227153
Yes.
I don't type in chat because anything you type can and will be used against you by some retarded gamememaster to deny your appeal when you inevitably get silenced.
>>
>>173224123
Chest contents are decided the moment you unlock them (so you can hoard them before new hero release to get content for him for example, unlike Overwatch).
And Alarak getting Double Cross baseline plus some talent network in the forseeable future.

Rest is memes and corporate hype/avoidance speak.
>>
>>173227153
I only say something when someone does the most retarded thing imaginable in which case it's just a "really..." type of thing. The moment anyone says some hostile bullshit to me I tear them a new fucking asshole. And they then have the gall to get indignant about it like they didn't start the shit in the first place. Fucking cocksuckers.
>>
>>173236223
>Complaining about the most OP character in the game right now.
>>
so.... why do people pick Anub against mages?
like, i get he has personal spell shield...but i still don't understand it

i just get told "pick anub" whenever i go tank warrior against mages

i don't know what i'm doing differently, but it seems to work. i'm just not sure why it works.
>>
>>173236787
be proud for him
you have to be good to not bring shame to him, otherwise he will fail you
>>
>>173238491

Bettles block spells
stuns and hard engage counter squishy backline mages
Massive spell shield
>>
>>173238491
The MMO version of RPS is:
>Tanks counter burst mages counter assassins counter tanks.

Anub's spell armour, mobility, and cc really helps in surviving. And the beetles are icing on the cake.
>>
>>173238659
>>173238721

oh..., really?
that's all there is to it?


i thought there was some like korean gosu level statistics and numbers as to why Anub was good against mages
but it's as simple as "beetles block spells"

cool, thanks guys. i thought there was something i was missing and just happened to get lucky, but seems like i'm using him correctly then
>>
zeratul is secret op
ban him while you can
>>
>>173238808

Sometimes hero kits are hard counters in themselves.

Simple game.
>>
>>173238852
>secret op
naw he's just balanced by the fact that you wouldn't be wrong for gambling for the zeratul who
a)does no damage
b)stasis' his whole team and sets them up for a wipe
>>
>>173238852
lmao

zeratul USED to be blatantly OP. he is now actually perfectly fine with all the power creeped heroes that have been added.
>>
>valla gets bonus 20% movement speed when full hatred
>her attack animation is so shit that you still go slower than someone walking normal speed if you try to animation cancel
hmmm
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>>173236892
It's funny that the reason mages dominate is because for whatever reason people don't like buying/playing the antimage tanks.
While in contrast every fucker has at least Artanis, if not Jo or Arthas to fuck AA comps.
It likely also helps that blinds drop damage to 0 while the closest we get for that against mages is a long cooldown drop spellpower by 75% which is typically one target.
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>>173239141
autoattacking sucks in this game
mostly because unless you are killing immortals, burst is king
>>
>>173203529
Only if you go full bruiser with D quest and AA speed and only if you know how to play that way.
>>
>>173098974
>tfw no Spartan hero in HOTS
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>>173239397
leoric is pretty spartan
hit people
run fast (spookily)
heal-damage
>>
>>173203529

It's useful for PvEing, but most heroes will either kite you or die so you won't get more than 1 or 2 procs.
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>pick Cassia in quick match
>enemy team has free week butcher
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>>173239764
>blind
>self blind on stun
>just walking in circles mitigating all his damage
>mfw
>>
>get hit by two tyrande owls
>lose 90% of my hp
That talent is going when they remake her
For shur
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Oh yeah so that's why I stopped playing this game
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>>173239931
>hiding in a bush hearthing
>owl flies over wall and evaporates me
>>
>>173240267
>zero assists
>minimal damage
>almost worst exp
>>
>>173240925
BUT HE'S TEH HEALR ANUN
HELRS ARE ENTITLED TO COMPLAIN
>>
>>173240925
>enemy team healers have more damage than the damage dealers in his team
While he might be shit, his team is literal shit
>>
>>173241978
He got a free week butcher with a Probius and Zul'jin
People don't know how to adapt their playstyles for QP teams and just play like the rest of the map doesn't exist.
>>
>>173240267
You... haven't contributed at all. What the fuck, anon?
>>
>>173240925
>>173241738
>>173241978
>>173242150
>>173243476
>>173240267


I'm pretty sure Anon means he stopped playing the game because he's fucking terrible at it and he couldn't bear it anymore.
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>>173244221
My bad, I thought he was trying to say he was the best one on the team and the others are always holding him back.
>>
>>173244221
>>173244451
Actually I was complaining about my teammates dying 11 times in 5 minutes then being unable to do anything as the enemy had complete map control.
Obviously I'm the best I had 0 deaths :^)
>>
>>173236079
Why does Cho have a different winrate from Gall?
>>
>>173244657
Disagreed. Are you hovering around your home base while the others are fighting?
>>
>>173244969
Because it's probably only counting people above certain hero level.
>>
>>173245269
Why would you not include ALL hero levels? It's ranked, only level 5+ can play them anyway.
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>>173245146
If I were hovering in base how would I have any healing done? The enemy team went to mid as a 5, while our team went in 1 at a time getting picked off repeatedly.
And If you expect a Malfurion to have top damage in the first 5 minutes of the game without moonfire talents and while in a lane against Tyrande Jaina and Anub you're fucking retarded.
>>
>>173246358
Oh, looking at that webm it's clearly just Americans trying to play a moba. Nothing you could've done differently.
>>
so is someone gonna make a new thread or what
>>
>>173239931
What talents?
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>>173238808
>counters mages with kit, trait, talents and a stat that was tacked on just to counter mages
>oh..., really? that's all there is to it?
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>>173220367
Or, you know, you could just destroy forts while the enemy team is occupied with your team. Of course, if your team knows what they're doing.
>>
>>173247994
Owl
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>>173248713
Never ever
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>>173248713

>filename

i want to believe
>>
>>173248713
Not happening, actually.
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>going the opposite direction of where you threw your sword always works on tyrael
>>
>>173250945
same thing on Sylvanas

it's not like they can do anything against it other than CC you on the spot
>>
Need a new badly im on mobile

help
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