EVE Online general /eog/

>not ferox edition

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>it's the self shill jew with his ref link scams again

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>>172993943

Red pill me on the stratios.

Is wormhole hunting a meme? Should i just be ganking VNIs?

>>172994502
>Is wormhole hunting a meme
Yes
>Should I just be ganking VNIs
VNIs, barges, explo ships. Anything you can get the drop on.

>>172994502
wormhole pvp is a meme

>>172994619
All pvp is a meme except blob.

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>>172993945
>being this buttmad over nothing
I have given every cent of the PLEX to every single referral, you can ask around.

Note to self: When surfing the faction sites for pvp, warp to 10. If you warp to 0 and need to run, you'll smack into the gate and fumble-fuck around and die.

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>haven't played eve in like 5 years
wait, it went f2p? interesting
i assume there's severe limitations on what skills you can learn right

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>>172989556
>owning a stratios
>not knowing how/when to fly it

>>172992162
>ganking ratters is easier/safer than camping relic sites

What the fuck is wrong woth /dog/ at the moment?
Why are there so many salty PH rejects offering fullblown retarded advice to other newbros?

wormholes are not real

>>172995662
Because everybody wants to be le ebin stunt lookalikes and don't know shit about how the game works. Delve is full of retards in Stratioses and it's either a shitfit or stunt fit. Nothing fucking else.

>>172994502
>>172994581
>>172994619

This >>172995662 is me, and I was already upset enough that someone was retarded enough to post this in the last thread.
Stratios is a fairly shit hunter compared to Tengus or Orthus, but it is cheaper. You will need to be refitting if you are planning on scanning down targets, as otherwisw you won't have the dps to pop VNIs before a standing fleet arrives.

Best best if you are desperate to hunt in null is to sit in bubbles and blow up PI haulers with a cloaky bomber, or invest in getting gud and dropping a fair amount of isk and sp into a decent T3C or pirate fit.

The stratios is best imo at camping areas where it is unlikely there is a formup fleet, as you need time to drone people to death.
A possible spot is wh camping, lulsec camping, or maybe npc null.

Alternatively, kill MTUs in highsec and bait newbears into attacking your SOE ship, and then proceed to murder them.

>standing fleet arrives
nice joke

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>>172996294
why be a bully? i need that PI to buy hurricanes, my corp hasn't paid out SRP for over a month now

>>172996125
>dude, how do I learn the game?
>by playing it and losing ships
Not the stratios guy but what else do you suggest?

>>172996649
>literally copypaste a fit down to the last drone
>I'm gut lol

>>172996607
Please link a killboard of someone who is more isk positive ganking VNIs in a major alliance pocket than any random shitter I can find in FW.
The only one I can think of is Rock, but he was/is one of the better pilots in the game, and knew the system and fleets etc very well by the end.

>>172996624
Gotta pad that killboard bud, learn to not haul with neuts in system.

>>172996649
Why not learn to play the basic game before attempting advanced playstyles like hunting?
It would avoid looking retarded by doing something like owning a stratios but having no idea how to fit or fly it.

>le isk positive

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I finally got my Thorax fitting for missions and I've completed most of the tutorial, but there's something that's really starting to piss me off. I keep missing my shots on certain targets. I've used like 500 ammo trying to kill this piece of shit, and finally had to warp back to base.

How the fuck am I missing this? It's basically point blank.

>>172998416
>It's basically point blank.
Turrets have a tracking speed. Get too close and the enemy can move faster than your turrets can track. Because of this, optimal range doesn't mean "this range or closer" for turrets it means "exactly this range."

Basically, get a little bit further out.

>>172998416
you're using low tracking long range guns at point blank range, try keeping small shit at 20km or so

>>172998416
Speed. Use a web or target painter.

>>172998416
Your guns have to turn to keep up with the target they are firing at, but the speed at which they can turn is limited. If a small target is close to you your guns have to turn a lot which makes them miss.

Get further away, and use drones.

Are we sure those RLML nerf patch notes was an april first joke? and not the other more obvious one relating to gifts for people at the eve fanfest who purchased the tickets early?

>make deal with pirates to deliver a bunch of shit they need at a certain time
>fucked up the calculations and it's going to take me twice as long to make as I thought
Whelp.

>>172998416
Look in the OP pastebin for how tracking works image.
You will need to web it down, use drones, outrun it to apply damage from far so his traversal is low, land far in the mission to snipe it or get short range guns.
Any of these should help you kill PvE frigates with ease.
When it comes to PvP frigs it will be similar but harder, and some might even be able to hold you down forever if your fit is not good.

>>172998568
>>172998607
>>172998684
>>172998695
>>172999025
Ok, the problem was that I indeed thought it was "this range or closer". So just get further. I'll use drones then.

is exploration actually worth it ? i got 7mil so far in one system, feels good since i had nothing but idk how good that actually is
how many isk/hour do you guys make ?

>>172998879
There were 2 posts on April 1.
One was the missile one posted in the OP and the other was the CONCORD blops ship stats and fittings.

The stats were confirmed April's fools instantly.
But the ships are 100% real.
The missile post is almost proven real, but you never know with this faggots.

>5% to ham and hml damage
Classic ccp

>>172999229
Always snipe small ships first thing you do when landing on a mission, unless the are the trigger.

You will apply the best damage during this period when they burn towards you, and they are almost always the ships with tackle, so if things get bad, you can always just leave if they are dead.

>>172999248
My character is 12 days old (omega from the start) and did two days of high sec exploration for about 6-7 hours total. Went from 18mil to 240mil isk. 95% of the time the loot was utter trash, maybe a couple million from one site if I was lucky. But then a few sites netted tens of millions. Its a numbers game, just keep doing it and hope for rng to swing your way. I just logged back on today and was about to head out exploring again. I enjoy exploration, its almost cathartic. I have yet to go where the real isk apparently is however, I've only explored high sec.

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>>172999249
>The missile post is almost proven real, but you never know with this faggots.
>almost proven real

>>172999249
>The stats were confirmed April's fools instantly.
Can you link a source for that?

>>172999387
>ham

no

>>172999680
yeah it's kind of relaxing t b h

>>172999973
no GM has mentioned it being a joke even after April's fools ended
if it is a joke, they are taking it too far

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Im back Faggots, fanfest in 2 days.

Expectations for the new EVE trailer?

>tfw we can't have route presets saved

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>Go exploring
>No fun
>Don't make much isk

>Go hunting explorers in a stealth bomber
>Loads of fun
>Make more isk than actually exploring

>>173002892
how? a rocket fit or something?

>>173003174
Nah, torps. Even with the shit application it doesn't take more than 3 or 4 volleys to kill them. If they try to burn out of warp disrupter range I just turn mine on and burn after them while they take enhanced damage from the sig boom.

>>173002563
>this is eve not below I was there

>>173004034
>this is REALLY eve not listed

>>173003409
Man I've only got 4 days left on my cov ops V, I'm very tempted to go out and try this

>inb4 all the hostile dreads moonwalked out
>inb4 people were dropping their ratting caps into pvp fight
>inb4 no sirens

>>173004849
I only have Cov Ops IV and Torpedos III (training IV atm) so with Cov Ops V I'm sure you'll be golden.

>>173005364
choice. Good hunting mate

>explorer hunting meme

Enjoy your no kills

In pve which would be preferred for missiles, a target painter or a missile guidance computer with precision script?

>>173007569
it depends

>>173007569
dl pyfa and look up NPC stats on http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php

>>173007569
I don't know, but consider the extra button presses with the tp

>>173007569
You want to use one of each.

>>173007569
guidance is less clicking
painter is better if you have at least III signature focusing.
painter is shit after optimal
guidance can also give range if you need it

I'd say always guidance unless you're shooting torpedos or cruise, unless you have a ship bonused for painters

>>173007141
It resets to 0 as soon as you leave the system or dock up. Make a bookmark.

>>172995618
Yeah, and you can only fly a bunch of ships and only from your own faction. But it's still neat. Also you can still log in without PLEXing.

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>Amarr

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>fleet forming
>there's a noctis in fleet

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>>173012305
>Horde forms a strat OP fleet
>fleet is sitting on a titan waiting for bridge
>someone undocks industrial
>"I'm bringing more frigates in it!"
>gets kicked from the fleet
>goes dozens jumps through gates to get to us, then 10 more jumps to destination
>Goons don't form seeing 1000 people in local and we end up bashing fortizar

>>173013645
should've just called him primary just for laughs.

>structure bash

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>tfw you could have bought a super

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>Fleet forming
>There's only 12 of us joining it from our alliance
>We need to log off and pretend to be afk otherwise enemy would stand down
>When we log in and jump titan enemy gets upset and bails because 12 of us went to help allies

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>gudfites

>>173015358
>And yet no blob babbies see any problem with jump drives or bridges

>>173015358
What kind of fleet is this where 12 guys are actually scary?

>>173015927
He's probably in ncpl and dropped a super blob on a cruiser gang

Can a hecate bring down a solo orca?

>>173007569
target painter helps your target faster.

>>173016068
or 12 guardians when the other guys had 4 logis

What's a good laid back null corp for a newish player who doesn't log in much and isn't very good at the game

>>173016090
Doubt it. Orcas can actually put out some serious dps.

>orca
>competent pilots

>>173016090
It'll just f1 you with drones like any broken ship

>>173016812
Yeah. You're probably right. I have one that keeps solo jet canning in a hisec system. I wanna steal his cans and get him if he agresses me. Hecate is the highest dps I can put out now. I wanna get rid of this mf'r

>>173016513
Horde

>>173017573
>fitted slasher deposited into your account :)

>>173016982
You could use a ship scanner and check out his fit

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What is the most cancer thing in the game and why is it covert cyno?

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>>173017803
t. afk ratter

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Make faction guns/launchers able to use T2 ammo

>>173018196
Congrats. You've killed the T2 weapon market.

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>>173017803
>covert cyno
>""cancer""
>the only actual risk to nullsec pve, which is supposed to be the "riskiest" space after w-space in the game
you can even see the hunter in local

>>173017803
Go back to highsec where you belong

>>173018276
Then explain to me why faction/deadspace reps exist yet people still buy T2.

>>173018430
muh isk

>>173018430
because DED/faction stuff is way better. T2 is just standard

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>T2 weapon market.

>>173018430
Because T2 reps are actually a direct upgrade from meta 4 while still being cheaper than faction/DED. Compare the stats on a T2 gun versus a meta 4 gun and you're looking at very minor upgrades (usually just in heat dissipation and a bit of optimal) in exchange for JUSTing your fittings. The only reason to ever fit T2 guns right now is the specialty ammo. Remove that and we've got nothing.

>>173019427
Kinda my point. Shit's fucked as is. Remove the one reason to use T2 guns and it's gone.

>t2 ammo
>ignoring spec skills

>implying the vast majority of PvPers would jeopardize their KB with faction weapons, even if they could use t2 ammo
It would be mostly PvEfags that switch to faction weapons if they got t2 ammo, and the elite PvPers who have ISK and don't care about 'muh KB'.

You think any SRP groups would payout a faction+ weapon fit on a regular basis? Because I doubt it. Not with all the flavors of ice cream in the world attached.

>>173020563
Once upon a time, but not today.

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Join Dronelands today!

Quiet null space, safe ratting, cheap rent systems. Comrade xXDEATHXx is looking for YOU!

>>173020563
If you wanna go fast just oversize

>killmail with ab+mwd fit, mining laser and civilian guns
Cute

>killmail has t2 processor overclocking unit

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>>172993618
Tfw I have played this game off and on since 2008. I haven't really done any proper PvP and feel like I would get my ass kicked. My only legit PvP kill was in a lulz Brawler Naga on a mediocrely fitted drake back in 2011. Pretty much every corp I have had an affiliation with or joined was utter shit. I basically just try and do some buy/sell orders and high sec rat in a dragoon. Or shitpost in Amarr/Dodixie. Why am I still here? I have always been 'that guy' from the OP boilerplate.

>>173023128
Sorry if my grammer is shit. Bout half through a bottle of stoli. Help me guys I know there is a good game here.

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>>173020764

Can confirm xXDEATHXx are great providers of titan, revenant, super and rorq killmails.

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>two Astras in Jspace WH
>corp killboard shows small conflict once a week/2
Have I stumbled upon a group of carebears? I don't know anything about WH space I just started exploring

Faction guns don't get the bonus from damage from the Specialisation skills

Specialisation skills<
muh 2 percent

>>173027095
Over 5 levels is 10%

>haha who needs skills, just train everything to IV lmoa

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>my specialization skills are lvl 5

>tfw I feel strongly compelled to max skills
>already finished most of the core
>25m SP and I've just finished my racial cruisers

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https://zkillboard.com/kill/61300474/

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>>173027715

>>173027715
>implying this is not money laundering
>implying these kinds of killmails are uncommon

>>173027715
Look at their killboard you mong

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>>173028197
>>173028401
It's true!

>log in
>supply run contract not accepted
>log out
>cry

>hey guys why are there no large polycarbons on market
>omg anon you fly a battleship just get a tengu xD

>>173029136
Exactly why don't you just fly a fucking deimos or some shit?

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>>173027715

>It's even in an audit container in case the cargo is intercepted before the buyer kills it

>not flying nano tempest

>>173029269
Never understood tho, feel like selling isk through contracts or straight up trade\corp hangar is much easier and undetecrabel.

>>173023876
what's the WH system name?

>buy first freighter to transport some stuff
>try to fly it
>its fucking benis
How do people fly thi shit, 60 seconds warp time, 1AU speed...

>>173030374
you pay other people to haul stuff for you

>>173030374
>>173030374
>How do people fly thi shit, 60 seconds warp time, 1AU speed...
the only other option is paying other people to haul stuff for me. I'd rather not have billions tied up in collateral which could rather be used making more money. hauling fees also lower profit margins.

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Kys maq

>>173030628
do you not understand how collateral works?

>>173027156
Easy 30+ days for 10% damage bonus!

>corp killboard
>most valuable losses in 7 days
>2 of them are mine
>both to rats

>>173023128
>>173023241
Pls respond.

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>Searbhreathach applies to every alliance corp and makes a forum account
>Admins instantly IP ban him and mass black list from chats

Poor little potato boi.

>>173034681
You should probably sober up.

Also, join a corp that isn't shit.

>>173030630
the irony being that everyone hates reyni

>>173017803
the only true cancer is regular cyno working on noobships

is discord dead my doggos?

>being a discuck
xD?

>>173035392
No

>scanning skills
>several skills that only usefull for probes and offer marginal increase and requiring lvl5 to use t2 that is useless
>hacking and archaeology existing as two diffirent skills and reuiring lvl 5 for t2.
>salvaging existing as 5 level skill and requiring 5 to use t2 salvager. 14 days to use t2 salvager.
>what the fuck are "better sense, bro" skills in PI skill tree?
>PI skill tree requiring diffirent charastristics for it's leveling.
>30 days to use t2 drones that are much better than faction and insanely better than t1

YOU ASKED FOR IT GOY
NOW PAY UP
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/new-eden-store-police-skin-for-megathron-battleships/

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>>173036442

>Not megathron navy

No sale.

>tfw eden store is unavailible right NOW
And it's always like that, why...

>>173035624
>several skills that only usefull for probes and offer marginal increase and requiring lvl5 to use t2 that is useless
T2 scanning mods plus the level V skill is fucking huge my dude, if you do wormholes, they are a huge quality of life improvement

>30 days to use t2 drones that are much better than faction and insanely better than t1
no for lights

>the rest of that shit
I don't do gaybaby PI

>salvaging existing as 5 level skill and requiring 5 to use t2 salvager. 14 days to use t2 salvager.
just grab a T1 dessie, fill it with salvagers and T2 rigs, and you're good.
T2 salvager only for t3c wrecks you don't find often.

>>173036442
[HEAVY BREATHING]

The police skin is up for 700mil.
Marketfags, I'm financially retarded, pls tell me if it's expected to go up/down in the near future.

>>173036719
drones were just an example, i hate now people say "t1 is good enough, t2 is only for people who want to master it and get every little bonus there is" but lvl4>lvl5 is a huge jump. Not only you get the last bonus of leveling, you also access t2 versions of equipment that are both better and cheaper than faction ones, if faction even exists. Why not make it lvl4 for t2 gear?

You will go shitty (1)> okay (3)> good(4)> best(5). You might even switch some SP from lvl 5 to lvl4 to compensate (just not too much) - right now i think it's about 2 days to level 3>4 but 14 days to level 4>5. what the fuck?

Maybe i didn't said what i meant about scanning - i mean that having 4 damn skills is too much for what essentially "press f2, drag arrows around" and see above for lvl4>lvl5.

>>173035093
DESU everyone in no.gf is a bunch of cunts

>>173036719
>>173035624
wait i came itt to ask about the same stuff basically

i'm relatively new, yesterday i started exploring in nullsec/wh
(already lost like 10mil from dying to mobs by surprise then forgetting to save the entrance to the wh, i guess you learn by failure hah)

the question is what do i use for exploring ? i lost my ship in the process so i'm about to restart

heron right ? or something more expensive ?
except the analyzers are there modules i NEED to have ? like cloaking device maybe ? afterburners/microwarpdrive ?

should i take the expensive probes/launchers/etc or just the basic ones ? idk if it makes a difference/if its worth risking that much money ?

and anything i can do to make probing easier ? hacking was very easy even in wh space however pinpointing the locations was a pain in the ass

i have all the scanning skills at lvl 3

sorry for the dumb questions i'm a noob t b h

>>173037296
t. benji

>>173037343
Wrong

>>173037169
It'll go down.

>>173037338
>restart
but why.

cloak, probe launcher, 2 analyzers, MWD, scan arrays, warp core stabs.

for scan arrays type "array" in market search and then you figure out which ones are ship-related.
Sisters launcher and probes are best, but launcher costs a lot (assuming 10m for you is a lot) but i think probes are pretty cheap so you should buy them instead of regular ones.

>>173037338
each race has their own explorer if you are caldari, yes heron
if you can afford the sisters of eve Astero, its great because it required no SP, but I wouldn't recommend it to a newguy

try this guide, its a little dated but everything should still be the same
https://all-out.github.io/guides/exploration-relic-data/

>except the analyzers are there modules i NEED to have ? like cloaking device maybe ? afterburners/microwarpdrive ?
if you are alpha, you can't cloak.
if you are omega yes, always prototype or improved cloak.
if you can fly the T2 cov ops explorer ships or the astero, use a cov ops cloak, which allows you to warp cloaked.
always MWD so you can escape from shit.

>should i take the expensive probes/launchers/etc or just the basic ones ? idk if it makes a difference/if its worth risking that much money ?
sisters of eve probes are good and cheap enough, bring 8 and then some T1s for backup, just in case
launcher is a tiny bump in strength but maybe too much money for you, the fancy storyline analyzers are weaker and more expensive
is it worth the risk?
only once you know what you're doing, can cloak and know how to run from camps.

>and anything i can do to make probing easier ? hacking was very easy even in wh space however pinpointing the locations was a pain in the ass
use WHs to get to nullsec safer
use the probe hotkeys to change probe size and scan
use a wormhole mapping tool or at least a decent bookmark system of your own
learn to dscan every second in wormhole space
always have an escape route or celestial, always overheat mwd.
crash gate if the camp is too bad
get at least astrometrics to IV

>>173037724
>>173037781
alright thanks a lot for the help m8s

>why
despite losing everything i kind of liked it the first time t b h

>>173037847
you didn't really lose everything, you just lost a ship, get used to it, and also nobody worth the time cares about losses or killboard so don't worry about having "dumb" losses.

as for the lows on an exploring ship, they have their pros and cons
nanos vs warp core stabs that is, don't try to ever fit tank on a T1 explorer for exploring, if something tackles you, you're dead.
Nanos allow you to run down camps or escape from dictors, warp core stabs straight up make you untackable to anything without dictors or tons of points.

I'd say nanos are better overall, but I've had my share of meme explorers just warping from my ganks, so stabs definitely good too.

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i wish i were dead right now

>>173038252
hi satori

>>173038252
I'd ask you to join the club but you're probably already in it.

>>173019480
>The only reason to ever fit T2 guns right now is the specialty ammo. Remove that and we've got nothing.
10% damage bonus from the advanced weapon skill is not significant to you?

Rip johnny

>>173037169
>Plex right now is 1.2b
>One plex converts to 3500 aur
>skin costs 1800 aur
>maths
>620-ish million isk

>>173038771
and the extra damage from specializations anon.
T1 guns don't get the bonus.

I want to shut rats.

>>173039352
>>173037546
Thanks anons.
Everyone is listing at 700 right now.

>>173039679
Preying on the stupidity and/or laziness of others.

You should do it yourself if you have the capital to spare and the patience to 0.01isk a few hours. ~80 mill a pop is pretty easy isk.

>>173030630
>t. mad baby
>>173037296
H8 us cuz u anus

>>173039831
I just saw a buy order at 70 mil for 5 of them vanish.

Here's to hoping I can do the same.

>>173039960
>a buy order at 70 mil for 5 of them vanish
That must be one dumbass fatfingered market trader.

Or it's someone who used an alt to buy his orders in order to manipulate the average price downwards. But that wouldn't make a lot of sense in this case.

So what's this lore roleplay bullshit at fanfest about the Kyonoke plague?

Will we be able to do anything ingame or are we just shit out of luck if we didn't pay hundreds of dollars to join autism central?

Is it normal to go through exploration frigates like you through ammo?

why is it that drone related stuff is practically always cheaper in Dodixie?

>asking why there are lots of people who make drones in the space of a race that specialises in drones

Is there a way to transfer aurum between accounts?

There are Aurum tokens on the market but I can't see anywhere how to change the aurum on my account into a token.

>>173042956
not really

git gud and you'll stop losing your ships so much

redpill me on why i suck.

>>173045093
Because you don't have enough practice.
And probably because you aren't in a good corp.

>>173045093
because you live in shitspace

>>172995618
it's not f2p it's free trial just like in WoW you can technically play forever on level 20 until your farm your WoWplex token

>>173045241
>>173045286
Fuck, how did you know.

>>173045609
I've seen this too many times.

>>173034746
>Also, join a corp that isn't shit.

How?

>>173046402
Apply to Sniggerdly

>>173034746
All i want to do is shoot rats in their ugly cockpits, how do i find a corp for it?

>>173046402
Select your preferred area of space, check who lives there, check which ones are good and which are bad, then of the good ones check which one are willing to take in a random newfag and if so how.

>>173047002
If you want your character to be nothing but a ratting alt, join a russian renter alliance. There's one guy who shills for xdeath every thread, maybe he knows where to send you.

>>173046402
join oruze
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60837891/

>>173047815
Satori pls.
We know it's you posting that.

>>173047449
Im actualy in one of the xxtwelveyearsxx corps and dog told me to "wtf leave this corp asap"

>>173048172
That's because it's a corp you stick your farming alt into. If you just want to autistically shoot NPCs it's an adequate corporation.

If you want to actually do things, you join someone who actually does things and knows how to fit ships.

In other words, it's a corp you put your farming alt into.

>>173047815
Sorry I've been out of the loop a while.

What's going on with this kill?

>>173048417
in oruze cruise we believe in being tolerant of other people's nestors

>>173048417
Self destruct joke turned tragic accident.

>>173048389
Also I apparently can't read my own posts and keep repeating myself.
I blame the insomnia.

Do we have any tradehub contract scammers in here? Because I really want to ask, how much money are you actually making? Dont meme me, just be straight please.

How can anyone be so stupid and buy ANYTHING off the local in jita. I really dont get it.

Also the "quitting EvE firesale"s are the stupidest fucking idea in the universe. If you are quitting eve, why do you fucking care about ISK.... ghh. I made a mistake by not closing local soon enough and now I am triggered.

>>173050151
I know someone who uses jita scamming as his only isk making activity, he makes 1-2 billion per day.

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>solo rolling

>>173050151
hard to say, some days are better than others, specially on patch day or when there is an event like shekel madness or the sisters of eve suit thing event.
On a good event you can be looking at 50bil in a single day, on a slow regular day, as low as 0.

>>173050151
>How can anyone be so stupid and buy ANYTHING off the local in jita
Drunk I guess.

I look at them occasionally and it's always the same fucking shit. Firesale this, leaving eve that, 1m geckos, etc

>>173037724
>sisters launcher
>10m
More like 30.

>>173043548
>why is it that drone related stuff is always cheaper in the trade hub of the race known for its drones
Think before you post, anon.

>>173050951
launcher is 30m, but he lost 10m and he said it like it was a lot.

Is it better to use thermal missiles rather than em if i fly caldaren ship and em is the weakest resist rat have?

>>173051673
wat?

If the their weakest resist is EM, you shoot EM unless you ship is specifically bonused for thermal and not EM (such as a worm or rattlesnake) in which case the optimal solution is more difficult to figure out.

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>write great guides and publish them on your wiki
>let whitestagexitbag.org expire and don't renew it

>>173051673
open pyfa, load up your fit, load the ammo you want to test, select the correct NPC resist profile. Done.

Should i rat in rattle snek or ishtar potato? And i guess HAM rattle is the better option?

>>173052416
Well that depends on where.

>>173052416
RHML rattle if you dont want to shuttle around chasing rats

>>173052691
Dronelands.

>>173052891
So in other words, you have local to keep you safe and dont have to worry about mass.

Rattle all the way.

>>173053170
Hmm, ok thanks, im going home now so in 1 hour i post my (shitty ofc) fit and i hope you people can rate it...

How do you fix player stations so people stop trading at 4-4, /dog/?

>>173053530
Why would you want to stop people trading at 4-4. I like not having to travel like a retard to get whatever I want.

What they should do is crackdown on bots both spamming the local and doing the 0,1isk game.

>>173053632
>What they should do is crackdown on bots both spamming the local and doing the 0,1isk game.
So how do we do that then?

>>173053676
Dunno, I am not a programmer.

But it would surely be nice. I dont care if ppl scam or 0,1ISK, but do it manually you fucking faggots.

>>173053676
Quite simple actually:

>the minimum undercut step becomes 1% of the current price

Which means, if you want to undercut the current 1bil PLEX, you'll have to go down to 990mil, from 990mil to 981mil and so on. That way, you're no longer profiting from employing a bot since the price doesn't move that much.
>b-but wont that mean that it will just stop at one price

Yes, and that's the point - all the sell orders are crammed up into 950mil, all the buy orders at 930mil. If you don't want to wait the entire chain of 500 sell orders @ 950mil to fill so your PLEX can possibly sell for 950mil, you just sell to the buy orders instead. It will create a tighter price spread for all items, which will make the market more efficient, and most importantly - remove botters completely

>trying to stop people from just clicking and dragging

>>173054136
>Which means, if you want to undercut the current 1bil PLEX, you'll have to go down to 990mil, from 990mil to 981mil and so on. That way, you're no longer profiting from employing a bot since the price doesn't move that much.
This is retarded, people will just cancel their order and put up a 0.01 under it. This has always been a retarded idea to just artificially limit what range of price you can do

Wow did this at one time and people just made a hundred individual buy/sell orders at 1 gold under to avoid it

>>173054583
>This is retarded, people will just cancel their order and put up a 0.01 under it. This has always been a retarded idea to just artificially limit what range of price you can do
No it's not, because first of all, that's how real world stock market/Forex works. Second, you just don't allow them to open the order at 0.01 less than the current price - either 1% lower, the current one, or higher

>>173050151
>How can anyone be so stupid and buy ANYTHING off the local in jita. I really dont get it.

It's simple. They really are that stupid. Or they are greedy, and/or make bad decisions, which amounts to being stupid. Scammers aren't interested in "tricking" smart people. Smart people will never fall for these scams. Morons will. And those are the ones scammers target.

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>>173050151
>Also the "quitting EvE firesale"s are the stupidest fucking idea in the universe.

not so fast laddo

What skin is best skin? It doesn't matter how good the ship is, but which skin looks the best on which ship?

>>173055343
What the fuck no way.

4 of those contracts got accepted in a single day what the hell?

>>173054841
>No it's not, because first of all, that's how real world stock market/Forex works.
No that's not how the stock market works. You can buy and sell anything at any price you want and even then the amount of regulation on that market is extremely anti-eve with its explicit depiction of open world any thing goes.

Your solution wouldn't fix anything and would stagnate the market as only a few buyers would be allowed to have the lower price floor. This would drown out the supply because people wouldn't compete to put them up on market

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>>173055449
How deep are you willing to go?

>>173055120
Well I get that, but I dont understand how stupid people manage to get billions of ISK to actually afford the contracts.

>>173055343
>>173055536
Kill me now.

>>173055476
And at that people would just switch to contracts, good luck regulating that

Combat the botters by stopping bots, not hurting anD punishing everyone else

>>173055536
Amazing.

And here I was thinking station trading and level 5's with a carrier was some of the best isk in the game.

Do you use a bot to spam the contract or do you manually link it?

>>173036442
>better make it limited edition, gallente aren't allowed good skins
>and we'd better only make it for a bad ship

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>>173055680
bot my dude

all the contract spammers and most of the undercutters are bots

>>173055120
>stop botters by not making it profitable to under cut

By wrecking everyone else's ability to profit by undercut? That's how the market works stupid good job throwing a wrench in a car and stalling it

>>173055723
>why do people do it? Don't they take your objects and throw them into eve praise?

>>173055595
You don't actually need to be smart to make billions in EVE.

>>173055723
Jesus christ people are fucking dumb.

Is it one of those contracts where you put some of those expensive looking faction mods that are actually only worth a million isk, and then pretending to have missed a 0 on the price?

>>173055851
>see contract advertised as 9b
>take a quick look at it
>full of faction mods, bpo's and shit
>price is actually "only" 900m, the moron forgot a zero in his contract ahahahahah what a faggot
>quickly accept it thinking you just made 8b
>turns out all that "faction" loot is only worth a few dozen mil

>>173056072
Yes, it's the 5-dimensional scamming tactic of putting cheap items with fancy names (and BPCs so evepraisal doesn't work) and then proceeding to tell how they cost 15bil and you're selling them for 9bil, but you accidentally missed a zero and it's actually 900mil, making people think that you're an idiot and that they got the deal of the month.

But the real value is closer to 150mil

>>173056316
It's still weird. People who have 900m isk have been playing the game for a while so you would expect them to know about jita being scam central.

I'm interested in trying out scamming (just for the novelty of it) but there's no way I'm manually going to spam the contract and I'm not going to risk all my accounts getting banned by using a bot.

Maybe with a vpn

G A R M U R
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>>173056580
>People who have 900m isk have been playing the game for a while
No, you seem to be mistaken - those people haven't played the game at all. You're always forgetting that the PLEX exists, and you'd be mindblown if you realized how many people actually make their money by selling PLEXes

When I used to do this about 2 years ago (I'm not jimbo btw) I used to get a lot of angry mails in a stereotypical bad English with no capital letters, so I'd safely claim that the average IQ of the people who get scammed lies between the 90-100 range. Moreover, they put bounties on me and proceeded to send taunting mails how they just ruined my game by putting a bounty on me, so they're also clueless newbies as well.

>tl;dr - those are the kind of people who came to EVE because they thought that they can p2w their way into it by buying PLEXes and deserve to be scammed

>I'm not going to risk all my accounts getting banned by using a bot.
You wont, I've been botting Jita local for several months without stopping, and then the market, and I didn't even receive a warning. Just don't touch the game memory and write a "mechanical" bot that simulates keystrokes, you'll be fine. Also recycle the spam alt with a new one every next month

>>173057170
>write a "mechanical" bot that simulates keystrokes

How to do this?

>>173058149
https://www.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/

>>173057170
I still don't trust mechanical bots. I'm pretty unlucky. If something can go wrong, it will.

Still I might try it on an alpha account on a different IP i guess.

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>>173056072
that scam only works because he's botting. all it would take to clean up Jita would be a GM convoing some of these guys spamming contracts 23/7 once a week. permaban all their accounts if they're botting and that shit would stop soon.

it's drowning out legitimate scammers

>legitimate scammers

>Join Horde
>Literally nothing but the most insufferable autist on comms 24/7
>Any newbro makes a mistake ever
>Non stop shit talk
>Only 3 people actually competent pilots

So I've come to the realization that I would be having a lot more fun if I was one of the dickheads blapping away these autist in horde space, what's a good corp to do that with that's not le reddit infested.

>>173060272
That's like saying trading bots are drowning out legitimate 0.01 station traders.

It's all cancer.

>>173061621
>joining standing fleet comms
If you listened to it for a minute and didn't leave it's your own fault desu

Don't blap them. Exploit them.

Courier ships and modules to their stations and put them on the market at a significant markup.

Any time a fleet of theirs is going out just follow it in a cloaky and loot their wrecks when they inevitably die in a ball of fire.

Stuff like that.

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>>173062196
There's nothing worth exploiting in this shithole

Returning player on a new account here, I have managed to scrounge up a billion isk over the past month by doing escalations. Is a skill injector worthwhile? Have I just been lucky with the escalations and loot, or will I be able to make it back in the same timeframe?

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>>173053170
>>173053347
Okay, i found some kind of fit saved and...modified it a little bit, how horrible is it? then i modified it to be cheaper, how horrible is it?
I feel maybe not enough resists? Or 1200dps is too low?

>>173064192
If you want to use battleship for anything PvE related, make sure to slap a MJD on it. If you see a sabre on dscan, its a good panic button.

Also dronelands still doesnt really tell me what exactly you want to run with that snake.

>>173063902
Training skills is cheaper than buying skill injectors. I wouldn't buy them unless you have a good use for the SP.

>>173064192
1 target painter will do the same thing as both the MGC and OTL, but you have to activate it on each target

>1200 dps is too low

back before they fucked up the game with retarded bullshit like this, 1200 dps would be about what you'd get in a battleship at 0-5km. you do it out to like 60km

>try gila ratting for the first time
>8 mil ticks
That's 300 mil I'm not getting back

>use ship badly
>blame the ship

How do I wash my ship? It's dirty.

>>173071290
There's a 'clean ship' button in the fitting window.

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>>173065156
Just anoms i suppose, don't really have time for ded's...

>>173066767
I got this, how does that look? Low cap kinda spooky...

>>173072565
>go to in-game map
>type out system in search
>system pops up
>right click system
>set waypoint
>follow the yellow stargate road
gee, that was hard.

What did he mean by this
https://zkillboard.com/kill/61309311/

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312240/

>>173029616
J150341

>>173074181
Another low SP newfag who thought that just because he had the skills to sit in a Worm meant that he should fly it.

>>173072949
Just follow the dotlan map route manually? It takes you like 2-3 seconds max to alt-tab to check the next system you're going to, 0 seconds if you have a 2nd monitor.

CO2 is on suicide watch

how do I even get my ship dirty
do I have to fly it in the dust clouds around asteroids or something?

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=2630&b=7499310&e=65&t=u

>look at me im pl

>>173075108
And BR is not final, they lost 4 titans already.

do you get stratpaps for shilling ur alliance?

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>>173061621
>making simple mistakes
>being called a newbro in Horde

>>>wants to be a hunter

Every fucking thread someone posts this bullshit, why /dog/? How has the average poster become this bad at the game?

>>173062054
>not just muting everyone but the genuinely helpful pilots

>>173075567
Nah I posted that yesterday but I wasn't the one making mistakes. I quit Horde yesterday and have had my first 2 successful ganks since

>>173075761
Post killboard or it didn't happen.

>>173075889
Okay it didn't happen then

>>173075567
>>being called a newbro in Horde
what's the horde term?

>>173076374
Newbean.

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>tfw there's no nullblob that would call you newfriend

>>173076846
I can call you faggot

>another titan down

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>>173075987
As I thought desu senpai, if you are interested, just look up WTB Killmarks.
He is the end-game for shitters who start ganking.

You will lose shiny shit, struggle to go positive, get laughed at by the locals, be force to place spais in newbro alliances, and ultimately be worse off than if you had just changed alliances, rather than trying to "punish" your old one.

Join a lulsec eleete pvp corp to learn basic game mechanics before hunting, and then join a wh corp to learn some hunting techniques.

>>173076570
This term is fucking cancerous.

>not fitting drone link augmentor on your nag

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312591/

how much do they pay you to live shill a battlereport

>>173077331
And just what do you think the Gallente have been making with their Drifter tech samples anon?

Naive newbeans, I swear.

The joke is that they are export products, the Amarr have been buying them

ragnarok: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61311784/

levi: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312434/

avatar: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312240/

hel: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61311794/

second nyx: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312280/

erebus: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61311983/

wyvern: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312015/

second hel: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61312068/

poverty fit erebus: https://zkillboard.com/kill/61311831/


>tfw I'm in C02
>sadly I'm at work and not in comms to hear gigx sperging out like a serbian madman

>>173077413
about tree fiddy

>>173077189
I know what I'm doing at least do a half decent level. I just don't feel the need to prove myself to /dog/ posters and put my character up here

>>173077658
this isn't r/eve

>>173077762
I seriously doubt about this statement.

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>undercut someone
>another guy undercuts by a larger amount just 3 seconds before me

>>173077760
If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't have been in Horde.

>>173078830
I was in Horde for my first month. This game is not that complicated for what I want to do. There's also plenty of reason to be in Horde if you do know what you're doing, it just depends on your intentions and what you're looking for in the game. You're just yet another elitist autist who knows nothing but memes and space politics

>go WH hunting hole to hole for 5 hours
>see 4 people
>2 herons
>""""""""""""most dangerous space in EVE"""""""""""""
WH space is utterly dead or everyone is cloaked up. Either way its total shit

>>173079704
Good, don't come back

>TP V

your fuckin dead kiddo

>>173079080
>There's also plenty of reason to be in Horde if you do know what you're doing
For example?

>>173080761
>easy market money
>new players to train if you enjoy that
>fun roams without elite pvp autism
>lots of variety rather than doctrine A/B ad nauseam
>easy logistics
>noticeable impact on the rest if you do well

>lots of variety rather than doctrine
heh

>fun roams without elite pvp autism

So being bad at eve is good now

>>173081171
Many more are successful than not. Its not about being bad but knowing that you should be losing your shit over a video game.

>>173081124
How is this untrue?

>haha it's just a video game :)))

>>173081419
t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A

>>173081004
So basically the same thing every blob offers.

>>173082048
Which somehow negates that they offer it?

>>173082048
Could you point me to a newbie-friendly blob that's blue to PL?

>>173082386
Pandemic Horde

>waah spooky pl, gotta be blue to them

>its okay to be farmed u will learn a lot xdd

>being in "newbro" corps
>waah why are "elite" pvpers farming us

Why is /dog/ so cancerous?

>>173083048
This game attracts some awful people and /dog/ is the combination of both that and /v/

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>>173083048
>asking why something is cancerous
>ON 4CHAN

>>173083048
because of hordefags and goons

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>>173085974
oh but anon, I do

So aftey they nerf rapids, is fleet phoon kill?

>>173087259
Its just range they're losing so they can't do 60km bullshit

the 5.6% to damage on HAM's and HML's is a woopty do though, not enough to make me use HML's on anything

T3s deleted when

>>173087423
we'll see thursday at the fanfest keynote

I really hope they don't get rid of their interdiction nullified and cloaky ability otherwise they'll be useless for blopsing

>but what about my 300k ehp invulnerable covops nullified tackle scout surely they won't change it

>interdiction nullified cloaky T3
>300k EHP
you're fucking retarded

>delusions

What T3 cloaky and interdiction nullified gets 300k EHP?

Why is everyone here so passive aggressive? Were you all bullied?

>>173089013
because /eog/ is a bunch of fags that thinks they're always right no matter what anyone says so they speak matter of factly like thats all that matters

>my cruiser has a mere 100k ehp it's balanced

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>>173089013
>Were you all bullied?
yes

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>>173089013
>started playing EVE
>bullied by CODE
>joined horde
>bullied for mining
>bullied for losing my VNI
>bullied for not being on comms
>bullied when i asked for help on comms because i was tackled during a strat op
>bullied by rockmucher
>joined BRAVE
>bullied by PL
>applied to ASCEE
>bullied and rejected for not writing an essay

>it's the sentence=essay autist again

>>173091228
What's the tax rates in those easy to join noob corps in the null alliances?

Are there any suited to people with reasonably developed characters but long highsec carebear career?

>>173091548
Generally pretty low ~5% but they upped it in Horde to fuel their defense reward system

>>173091548
ASCEE has people with rorqs and ratting supers. Doesn't really matter how much sp you have and what you did before

>>173091548
Horde is 10% but doesn't have SRP. Only corp that doesn't want API keys
Karmafleet and ASCEE have 15%, have SRP but you need to go on 3? fleets per month
BRAVE has 10% tax and SRP, you don't have to go on fleets but their space is shit
Dreddit is 10%, has SRP but it's reddit. You don't have to do anything but log in from time to time and the space is decent.
Brand Newbros 10%, has SRP. No idea if they purge you for not going on fleets

>>173091965
Karmafleet and ASCEE require 1 fleet per month I believe

>>173092139
3 per 3

https://zkillboard.com/kill/61316843/

thanks doc

>>173092410
>mega using beam weapons

I'm new to the game but wtf

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>The capacitor is empty

>>173092410
Someone explain this to me please
Ain't Mega super slow ? If the enemy get close to you, you are pretty much useless
And for what ? Range ?

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What's a good ship for fucking VNI's and Vexors ratting in nullsec space?

These faggots have bullied me for the last time

>>173093401
Look at his killboard. He hasn't done anything but lose shit-fit ships. He's so bad that he doesn't even realize how bad he is.

>>173093610
Any cruiser

>tfw you get guilt tripped into going on a mining stratop and structure bashing stratop at the same time