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>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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First for fempyro is for faggots
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>>172951434
To anyone just discovering team fortress 2, I swear this game is about fighting and not about big breasted women.
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>>172951530
fem pyro is a cute.
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>>172951549
LIES
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thicc white girls :3
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>>172952169
gross
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r8 my flare
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Just got back from grabbing lunch, good pizza.
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>pyro
play a real class
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>>172952651
>not using the full 3mb
>blackbars
>bad frag
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>Listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuPI7tk9B8
>Playing Comp
>As Scout
>Get the most points
>Annihilating enemy team like a one man army
This was great
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>>172953031
>bragging about fragging as most overpowered class in the game
???
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Please make your bait more subtle next time.
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STOP BULLYING EACH OTHER
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Objective class ranking
S TEIR: Demo, Scout,Soldier
A TEIR: Medic, Sniper
B TEIR: Engi, Heavy

EXTEME POWER GAP

F TEIR: Spy, Pyro (subject to change (((soon))))

PRO TIP: THIS IS HOW IT WILL BE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE
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>>172954145
>TEIR
>EXTEME

hmmmm im really thinkign
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>>172954145
i never understood this letters
what does it mean
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>>172953527
ese
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>>172954665
Ranking for most jap games.
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apu apustaja :DDDDD
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>>172955062
Not just jap games, it's become a thing in most other games that have a ranking system as well. Never understood what the S actually stood for, but whatever.
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>>172955295
Usually super
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>wake up
>miss 3 raffus in the last thread
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>raffus
WHO CARE
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>Wake up
>Never need to worry about raffles because I've got a job and can buy whatever I'd like

Damn, life is too good
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i hurt my finger so it hurts to click
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click me
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>tfw you've got money but you're a worthless jew who wants everything handed to you
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Of all the things Volvo forgot, Medieval Mode hurts the most ;(
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*clicks you*
o..ouch
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>medieval
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>>172956097
get back to fragging soon
you can play lowskill classes like medic in the meantime
i played with alle when he broke his wrist and that's what he said
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*dodges*
you didnt click me dumb*ss
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>>172953031
>Listening to this
https://youtu.be/ZizaVicM3LI
>Playing games with the Homies
>Win or lose, mostly winning, we're all having fun

It's good to feel these great feelings
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What's your casual rank? I'm at 98
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150
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>>172956814
I'm only in the 70s. We don't play TF2 much
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>>172956814
96
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>>172956814
Way more than 150. I switched like 6 accs since mym. Last one had 131 level, current have 52.
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Let's pretend we're mercenaries.
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Let's pretend we're heterosexuals.
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>>172957707
no
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Let's pretend we're homosexuals.
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Let's pretend I'm still Konata.
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>>172957908
Okay.

Hey hey, kids. I'm Christopher. I owe my life to my Parents and the Lord. Peace be upon them. I live in Brooklyn, New York: Greatest place on Earth. I "main" Medic & Pyro in TF2, Mercy & Lucio in Overwatch, and I don''t play much else
That's about it, I guess. Have a blessed and Based day and night, friends
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>>172957707
casualteambalancing.jpg
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>>172957707
Jesus fucking christ.
I bet that guy showed up smelling of strong b.o.
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>>172958537
AMMUUUUUUUUUUURRICA
FUCK YEAH
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>>172958537
someBODY
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>>172957869
How can I pretend that when I'm already living it?

>>172957908
OoooOo Jeeethuth
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>>172953031
Good taste
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https://strawpoll.com/1bwxxgc
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>.com
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>>172959873
>no shitterslinger
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>>172960018
Yeah I realized I forgot it immediately after I posted it
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http://poal.me/bevbuh
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What are some nice custom huds? I just want one that's lightweight and minimal, and that doesn't go and overhaul literally everything in the game while adding autismo menus and backgrounds.
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>>172955876
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http://tf2r.com/k6xs0ok.html
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>>172961287
eveHUD
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>>172961287
Stock minimized hud
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>>172962247
>not improved stock minimized hud
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>>172962247
thats not a custom hud dummy
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>>172961735
>>172961287
seconding e.v.e
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>>172961287
aHud
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>>172962569
>>172961735
>>172962445
I need a good HUD for the Vaccinator, most suck.
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Ask someone who has less than 1 k/d ratio anything
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>>172963976
most played class?
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>>172963675
>Vaccinator
For what purpose? This medigun is too pasive. All you can do with it is being healslut.
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>>172963976
what gamemodes do you play?
do you go DEEP?
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>>172963976
hi fernando.enuresis2007
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>>172964475
>Implying he can even get a 1 k/d
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>>172964693
learn to read
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>>172961287
custom huds SUCK
why would you want plain floating numbers?
you arent gonna frag better just because you have your exact ammo count right in your face
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>>172961287
http://huds.tf/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=25
look for something.

I'd say try m0rehud though.
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>>172964875
>>172964475
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>>172962445
Gotta link friend? This sounds right up my alley
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these ugc medals dont stick on

you have to reapply them everytime you open up the game again wtf
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>>172965236
hahaha, you have no argument and that means youre wrong
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>>172965321
http://huds.tf/forum/showthread.php?tid=276

Just use this and turn on "Minimal HUD" in advanced options
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>>172965580
Thanks dude
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>>172965759
I GATTA start sourting my images out, this is what I meant to post.
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>>172961287
Grape's stock hud variant
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>>172965946
take some notes
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>>172964875
>not using default HUD plus
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>>172966183
That's pretty neat, actually.

Alot better looking than my shitshow of a reaction folder.
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>>172963976
ANSWER ME
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>>172965330
Old medals desigh was better, though.
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I didnt mean to take so long
>>172964070
Engi
>>172964262
I go casual, only started playing a few months ago
I dont even know what DEEP means
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>>172963976
Is a 1 k/d ratio a good or a bad thing?
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>>172966974
thank you
DEEP means playing aggresively and having no fear.
Pushing right into them to try and kill them all rather than hanging back and playing safe
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>this op pic
https://youtu.be/NEgwxGWgiIg
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>>172966974
Watch this man. Learn from this man. Accept this man as your uncle you was missing all this time.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu0PSyLD5p_J5osLk5UD0pw
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>>172956156
Medieval is borderline unplayable with all the demoknight shit added since degroot keep.
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Is marketplace.tf worth it?
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Wow we're really burning through the threads these days, pyro update hype is real.
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>check scrap.tf team and members
>bronies and furries, some weebs
>check tf2r team and members
>weebs

what is wrong with this community
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>>172967683
You want to sell? Wait until the Pyro update hits.
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>>172968510
low life degenerates have all day to get good at fragging.
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>>172968510
Https://Hownew.ru
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Post things your looking forward to this month.
The pyro update
The music discs
Getting better at fragging
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>>172968954
What if with the release of the music discs the update drops? :o
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>>172967185
Oh. I get it.
I usually stick to where my team is.
>>172967489
Thanks, man. I'll check him out
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>>172969091
NOT UNFEASIBLE
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>>172952651
>post-nerf degreaser

4/10
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>>172954145
S Tier: Demoman, Medic
A Tier: Scout, Soldier, Pyro
B Tier: Heavy, Engineer
F Tier: Sniper, Spy
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>>172967489
I dislike mr,pagilon
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>>172967489
Stop shilling this garbage here.
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>>172967489
I would tell you to stop sucking Dane's dick, because I know it's just been you posting about him non stop for like the past week, but he's also the only engie youtuber ever, so i guess its fine in this context.
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>>172969943
>best tf2 youtuber
>garbage
Blaris please go.
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>dr is not a crutch guise
>best youtuber

get the fuck out you shill
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>>172969836
>In round of borneo with him
>Game goes to shit
>Talk about it in chat
>He passive agressively bullies me and acts like a cunt
>Puts footage from that round in a new vid
>That part is cut out

LoL?
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are you talking about the same tubers
when did uncle dane ever say anything about dr
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I have noticed that degenerates like bronies and furries generally have a better understanding in technical fields and finances.
I have no idea to why that is, but probably it is like other anons said that they are no lives and had plenty of time during their non existent youth to acquire that knowledge, as well as having a lot of disposable free time during their job training/studying.
Perhaps they are smarter on average too...
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>>172965759
>That nugget description
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>>172971250
If I ever get in a game with him imma start recording myself.
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>>172971570
>I have no idea to why that is
Autistic people understand numbers and technical shit more but are completely fucking retarded everywhere else.
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>>172971761
>inb4 "THATS NOT THE REAL [youtuber]!!"
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>>172971250
>>172971761
>>172971936
Don't forget to type "status" in console then so you will 100% sure that it's him. He got short steam id.
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How much are keys being sold for now? (In USD.)
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>>172971936
>>172972074
All that would be needed is for him to use a clip from that match like the other anon said he did.
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>>172971846
I did not take that into consideration. Thank you for the addition to my assumption. :^D
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>>172972202
Just a few clicks, mate
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how do i git gud at rocket/sticky jumping
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>>172972365
I should've said real money, not the SCM.
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Time to use up my Christmas name and description tags! You can only submit one aspect per post. Nothing too rude.

Post ending in 3:
Chooses bat, shovel, bottle, fists, bonesaw, or kukri.

Post ending in 6:
Names the weapon.

Post ending in 9:
Describes the weapon.
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>>172972508
>one aspect per post
but why, that's just going to make rolling take longer
it's not like somebody can have their post end with 3, 6, and 9 at the same time
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>>172972508
Bat
>I shoved this up my ass
>add me for hot gay pyro furry rp
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>>172972716
Has anyone ever really been added because of their rename?
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>>172972379
practise. If you're brand new to it, I'd recommend downloading some easy starter maps like jump_beef or jump_adventure and running through them on a local server.
If you've already got a hang of the basics, check out some servers like tempus and jumpacademy.
I found that the maps rated "beginner" can still be quite hard so don't feel demoralised if you can't beat any of them, just keep trying to see how far you get.

Jump maps are probably the best way to quickly improve generally, but you could always just load up a random map like process/badwater or whatever and jump around.
Use the command " -hurtme -9999 " to give yourself a load of health and just try to traverse the map quickly.
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>>172972667
>but why, that's just going to make rolling take longer
answered your own question
>>172972716
disqualified for not reading the rules
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>>172972850
I'm actually trying out jump_beef right now, the jump between 6 and 7 is a pain in the ass
>>172972881
you never defined what "rude" was
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Wait, seriously?
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Why do so many new players who think they are good play sniper or spy, and consider those classes their main?

They always pretend they are the best player on the team, even when they have the lowest score of anyone, and will refuse to play any other class.
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>>172972508
bottle
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>>172973247
this so much, it's infuriating as all hell to see eduardo.gonzalez2002 not knowing what a diguise kit is and running up to people swinging his knife like a lunatic
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http://tf2r.com/kmqerh7.html
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>>172973247
because they're xX_3dGy_4s545s1nZ_Xx
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>>172973247
>sniper
"I used to be a """""""""good"""""""""" sniper in cunter strike. This child game should be easy."
>spy
Unique gameplay.
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>>172973247
I've never met any new players who actually think they're good

they're just stubborn to switch and think they'll be able to learn the game by playing a single class that they think is epic
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If you could restart TF2, but have 5 extra maps that have been added since release to go along with the first six, what would they be?
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>>172972992
prepare to have at least one hacker per team
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>>172973513
Compfag version of badwater, process, borneo, upward and gullywash.
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>>172973513
Snakewater
Turbine
watergate
probed
byre
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>>172972508
Might as well reply for each weapon maybe you'll find something nice (and because you'll have no reply with all thoses rules)


Bat : Bat , bed and beyond Desc: None
Shovel : This is my weapon this is my shovel Desc : And that knight is a MAGGOT
Fists : Fifteen fights with heavy Desc : None
Bonesaw : Do you remember me ? Desc : How long since you haven't used it
Kukri :Crocodile Mundy
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>>172973513
process
metalworks
sunshine
vanguard
gullywash
snakewater
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>>172973513
>badwater
>upward
>barnblitz
>process
>snakewater
hopefully these would influence other maps to be better, less stuff like junction or hoodoo
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>>172973441
reminder to enter
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I haven't played this game in a long time, anyone know if items with the craft number range 1-100 is worth anything?
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>>172972508
Shovel
Name: [ANGRY BIRD NOISES]
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>>172974105
They tend to be but don't bother unless it's someone who cares enough to collect a particular number. Most people will not give two shits unless it's #1 or some other specific number.
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>>172974105
Yes, if the thing is numbered it's worth a shitload.
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>>172972508
>fists
Name: assume the position

Description:none
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>>172974306
>>172974259
I've got a #82 Steel songbird I crafted waaaay back, could it be worthwhile to look into the worth of it?
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>>172971570
i found that normies don't do things because they have interest in them but to become rich, popular or something like that so they don't get as good at it as somebody with genuine interest who is willing to put a lot of time into a single thing
some of the best players in tf2 are also complete introverts (tek, flippy, starkie) that outshine everybody on their class individually but similarly to how normies get better jobs irl those players aren't the ones generally picked for teams because they don't do well with teamwork and social interaction
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>>172974591
>i found that normies don't do things because they have interest in them but to become rich, popular or something like that so they don't get as good at it as somebody with genuine interest who is willing to put a lot of time into a single thing
Excellent point.
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>>172974387
Put it on outpost asking for a few keys and see who bites
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Video's nearly done, need to apply this template to all of the matches, make a title card, and then put it all together
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>>172974387
maybe a few keys, like 2 or 3
it's not a popular cosmetic and not a "collector" number
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>>172974798
Neat
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I'm best at Medic, but I've been playing Medic for years. I've gotten tired and want to spice things up.

What should I do to vary things up? Should I try getting good at another class? I've played most of the other classes a bit, so I have some equipment for them and general knowledge of how to play. I'm just not as good with them as medic.
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>tfw matched up with dirty greys and blue peasants
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>>172974951
try comp if you haven't already
play other classes, mechanics from soldier and scout should transfer well to medic
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>>172974951
>Learn to effectively use the amputator taunt in combat situations
>Pocket a trolldier with QF and see how long it takes for the enemy to kill you
>1v1 a revved up heavy with the overdose
>Try ubering or kritzing different classes and enjoy the shenanigans
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Syringe Gun
+1% base damage per 1% Ãœbercharge
-30% damage penalty

find a flaw
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>>172974057
>>172973441
ending soon.
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>>172975009
>for the 27th time in 3 days
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>>172975376
it's not the crossbow
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>>172975376
it's not the crossbow
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crossbow fucking sucks except for killing far away snipers heavies and sentries
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>>172975735
it's good for healing and doing single hits for a respectable amount of damage
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>>172975009
>he plays matchmaking enough to have anything but silver despite having thousands of hours

fucking plebeian
>>
>put effort into my posts, talk about actually relevant things, make interesting points
>get fucking ignored

>shitpost, bait, talk about the same shit every day
>replies fucking everywhere

back to low quality posting i guess
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>>172975376
Encourages medics to fight rather than do his job.
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>>172976072
you have to medic job to uber get
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>>172976162
>Heal some chucklefuck who isn't doing anything in the backline.
>Proceed to ignore everyone else while ineffectively trying to battle medic with a 170% damage syringe gun.
To put that into perspective, that's 100 more dps than a flamethrower.
Also
>ubersaw
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https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/cubenormal
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http://tf2r.com/kmqerh7.html
http://tf2r.com/kmqerh7.html
http://tf2r.com/kmqerh7.html
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>>172974798
more like saltdork
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is it gay if i wish i was a girl and would suck dicks
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>>172978565
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have memed him so hard on that one :/
Sorry Saltpork, you're good people
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>>172978914
I think the first one was better.
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>>172973513
steel
badwater pro
suijin
cp_pacman
arena_hardhat
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>>172978626
That's called Autogynephilia.
Alot of men suffer from it. The best treatment is a gold ol' zap.
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>Hit their medic across the map with my crossbow
>He dies and drops his stock 100% uber
>No one on my team says nice job or even gratz
My feelings are hurt
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Does having deaths equal to doms count as a pubstomp? I'm having a pretty good Soldier day today,
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>>172979193
That was just me dropping in the Saltdork meme, I'm still going to use the first shot :P
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http://tf2r.com/kklu9u5.html
http://tf2r.com/kklu9u5.html
http://tf2r.com/kklu9u5.html
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http://tf2r.com/kklu9u5.html
http://tf2r.com/kklu9u5.html
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>>172979557
Depends on if you're playing aggressive or passive, and of course the number.
1 or 2 is nothing and is really easy to come across especially if some players are overextending into you. 3+ is when it's becoming apparent that the other team isn't doing a good enough job of not dying, let alone killing you.
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>>172975376
>base damage is 70% of stock
>ergo, 1% base damage is .7% of stock
>with full ubercharge you have 70% + 70% to get 140% stock base damage
Would be neat with vacc but crossbow still wins in utility if you can aim it.
>>
Can you like, stop spamming the thread.
>>
Syringe Gun
+1% Ãœbercharge per Hit
-30% damage penalty

find a flaw
>>
Yesterday I watched a medic 3v1 our team with nothing but the syringe gun. He won.
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>>172980606
it cant heal people
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>>172980606
Also encourages Medic to fight rather than just doing his job. Ubers are not the only thing that Medic is about. If he's not healing, he's not helping. Yes, I feel that the Ubersaw has the same issue. But at least Ubersaw deals its reward in batches of 25%, it's a lot more liable to make clutch plays compared to a piddly little +1% on an inconsistent stream of projectiles.
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>>172979985
Doesnt matter anyways. The other team bunkered down hard on the last point and we weren't able to push. I closed out 13 deaths, 7 doms between the two rounds.
Still some of the best I've done.
>>
>his profile summary actually talks about him
Why?
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>>172981449
looks like someone here dosent have an interesting life
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Can we arguably say its the best sniper rifle of the game ?
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>Being conceited enough to think anyone cares about your mundane life
>Being conceited enough to think your mundane life is interesting
Unless you are some sort of novel protagonist, your life is not interesting, nor is it unique.

>>172981848
Yes.
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>>172981449
>xer profile summary actually has a link to xer bdsm test results and a list of fetishes
why do "people" do it?
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>>172981848
Elaborate
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>machina
>danger shield
>2fort
>corners
why do people do this
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>>172982814
>He doesn't spam pipes onto the balcony to make hardscoping babbies cry
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3ekDUPRoM

what do you think about hackers frag videos?
>>
the way this thread works is silly
>>
Cute pyro :3
>>
>Giving hackers Youtube views
>>
@172983136
>shilling your own video
kys
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>>172983136
Interesting to see from the hacker's perspective
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>>172968954
Getting a job, eventually getting my hands on a strange shotgun
>>
The cow goes Moooooo!
The duck goes Quack!
The b4nny goes _______
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>>172984360
WHERE THE F4CK DID YOU GO?!
>>
>>172984360
HABEEB!
>>
>when you get the baby engineers to listen to you, push out of last with sentries, and push all the way to their last, and cap, all with baby engi sentry support along the way

fuck comp this is the best feeling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-meqTM6arI
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>>172983136
im glad they gave credit so I know who to report.
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>>172984360
STEEEEEVE
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>>172967743
Tom is just looking out for you
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>>172984360
WHY WOULD YOU PUSH WITH NINE HEALTH
>>
>>172984360
HE'S SO HEALTHYYYYYYYY
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>>172984360
kill white women
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>>172984360
HES SO LOW
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>>172984360
SHUT THE FUCK UP CORSA
>>
Could somebody help me. What kind of criteria must I fulfill to get a medic to heal me? I got the same problem in Overwatch.

I can't ever get people to pocket me despite the fact I'm pretty good at shooter games (give me the benefit of the doubt on this)

I kill people and I always do a "thank you" command after I receive heals. What more do you want?
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>>172957707
Thisbpic made me smile.
>tfw no weirdo tf2 playing friendos to cosplay with
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>>172987854
what hats do you wear
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>>172987854
go to r9k and find a degenerate steam thread poster
give him some attention and congrats on your personal healslut
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>>172987854
Get a flashier hat.
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>>172987854
>good hats
>high score
>play powerclasses
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>>172987854
For the pub mindset: Don't overextend (or stray far from where the Medic feels safe, really), don't expect to get pocketed unless the situation calls for it (ie demoman while there are sentries ahead), watch both of your backs.
The best tool is to actively talk to them. Do a callout, warn them about incoming threats for them to back away from, actively keep them alive. Actually put forth an effort to benefit the other player rather than demanding a buttplug. A medic worth a damn will recognize that he'll want to keep you alive and by his side, so pocketing will come naturally.
Of course if you're trying to get pocketed by Guillermo.Hernandez.2004, don't bother as there's nothing you can really do to make them budge.
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>>172988190
Evil
>>
I really enjoyed the gamemode where you bought props with credits and placed fortifications to defend the intel [sewer pipes, concrete blocks, stairs, etc]
Anyone remember the name and there still servers running it?
>>
who is the most autistic merc
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>>172989121
Prop fort servers I think they were called
Played a lot a handful of years back, I think they included other "fun" gamemodes as well
Last I checked they still have servers running for that sort of thing
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>>172989280
pyro
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Thanks for rollin last thread :^)
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>>172989482
your loadout and weapons are shit
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>>172987854
there's nothing you can do
you can literally dominate half the enemy team and still not get heals because your medic is too busy pocketing her bf who's playing spy
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>>172974798
>>172978914
I like the first one desu. I play scout to be a massive jackass, and make a living out of shitposting. It's perfect
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>>172989775
>Wild_Rumpus

That guy got really mad at me in a pub before
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>>172989341
>Prop fort
Found it with this, fortwars. Thanks. Going to reinstall tf2 for some nostalgia.
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>>172989857
Have fun, friend
>>
>That one medic who thinks medics should only heal heavies over everyone else
>Doesn't matter if this heavy is a gibus who can't even stay alive for more than 20 seconds or stop being killed by spies
>Doesn't matter if he charges blindly into sniper sightlines
>This medic will follow him to the ends of the earth
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>>172990020
wtf i hate the chinese now
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>>172990094
i swear this didn't happen until after meet the medic came out
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>could've played against a /tf2g/ in a pub before

hm
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>>172990806
I've played with and against /tf2g/s before, it's even more random now that they can't just hop into whatever game you're playing, though. Is queuing with a full stack still a huge pain because it takes forever to find a match?
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>>172976546
no you dumb fuck it's 140% damage
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>>172987854
KILL
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>>172991624
what the h*ck
were the enemies just a bunch of mouthbreathing retards or something
also i killed hard one game but the medic didnt start pocketing me until 1 minute on the clock
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>>172951434
Team fortress 2 is dead why won't vavle just let it die
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>try to smg a spy down
>he keeps using his dead ringer to sprint from ammo pack to ammo pack
>cheeses out of death two or three times before finally gunning me down
>this is acceptable to some people
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>>172989723
literally the best loadout.
>>
>>172992995
t. bad
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>>172992995
play better idiot
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>>172992995
just 360 quickscope the fuckre
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>>172992038
medic flocked to me and fed me kritz
got a new highest killstreak which was 58
pootis
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>>172992995
nice tunnel idiot
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>>172989482
>Kurt Cobain's ____
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>>172992854
Are you kidding me? They have been trying to kill it for years. But then they remeber that a lot of people like it still, and then try to milk them for money.
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post handwriting and your main class

soldier
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>>172994420
>mousewriting
soldier
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>>172994420
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>>172994604
revision
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>>172994420

demoman
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>>172993939
its a MEME are you NEW HERE?
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>>172994420
>>172994703
>>172994839
>>172994943
what do you have to say about this
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>>172995047
pump pulse this

*pumps cock*
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>>172994420
Soldier/Engineer.

>>172995047
That's what books get you, professor.
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>>172994420
tfw no camera so i had to use my scanner
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>>172995047
it looks like it detects the interference between two photons
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stout shaco for 2 refined
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>>172995265
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>>172995047
It looks like filtering a pump pulse through a nonlinear crystal gets you a photon pair, which you can further split into two separate photons using a polarising beamsplitter. A heralding detector is used to measure those single photons.
>>
>>172994604
>>172994703
>>172994752
>>172994839
>non-cursive peasants

holy moly
>>
>>172995412
sorry gramps they dont teach that in school anymore
i wish they did
i would have liked to be able to write cursive
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>>172994420
Medic with a minor in engineer and scout
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hey :3c
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>>172995517
They didn't force you to learn cursive? One of my cousins is learning it and she's like 6. We learned it in third grade when I was in school.
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>>172995737
a. i grew up in a non-english speaking country
b. by grade 7 nobody gave a fuck how you write because it was a public school
c. im not autistic enough to learn it by myself considering i never write anything anyways but i would have liked it if i had pretty handwriting
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>>172965759
>Imagine lighting Tyrone his homies Jamal, Malik, , and Deshaun up with 100 rounds of .22 with precision accuracy and lighting fast speed for breaking into your home to steal your anime and duck your whore waifu
Where's that screen shot of the demo and the engi where it looks like the engi is gonna execute the demo when you need it.
>>
>>172965759
>tfw bought an sks for $100

holy fuck

are they really that expensive now

that was like 2 years ago
>>
Love and War was the best update for this game by a country mile.
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>>172998154
you spelled the goldrush update wrong wrong
>>
personal favorite update is gun mettle, but love & war is pretty high on my list
>>
>>172998154
t. demoknight main
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>>172999243
No I'm a dirty, friendly taunt fanatic.
>>
i want a update
i want a new gun
i want a valve made map (that isnt complete suck)
i want more achievements
i want a cool set of hats for all mercs that are valve made and not from the community
i want a new mvm map or gamemode

just anything

give me something

aaaaaaa
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>>172996458
>tfw black
>tfw I live in LA
>tfw all I have to do is exist and sjws love me
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>>172999404
How about another dance taunt
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>>172999404
>asking for valve made anything
>2017 CE
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>You will never play 2008 tf2 ever again
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What do you think of Team Fortress 2 Classic?
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>>172999432
you better be tappin that ass while its young, son.
>live in suburbia
>be shitskin
>white women love to take a ride to piss off parents
>SJWs love you
>average benis
How can white boys even compete
>>
>>172999854
>>173000134
>TF2 without Mannrobics and RPS
What's even the point?
>>
>been fragging so hard lately that my wrists phisically hurt
so tf2g, what are your exercises to prevent CTS?
you do take care of your fragging appendages right?
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Daily reminder.
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>>173000261
>he has shitter genes
>isn't a natural born fragger

Why teh fuck do i even come here.............
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>>173000134
>the good
its fun as fuck
polished user interface
100 fov
deathmatch mode is 10/10 and a must for fraggers

>the bad
ded servers, youll be lucky to find one with 5 people in it
i think theres like 4 in total
mods are complete assholes
no rancho relaxo

i wish more people knew about it and it was simpler to install
maybe then it wouldnt be so fucking dead all the time
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>>173000261
>tfw never did wrist exercise because i thought it was a meme
>have to sleep with a brace now

>>173000374
>he doesn't stretch before and after fragging
i bet you're dehydrated too you fake gamer
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>>173000712
>being dehydrated ever

glad we can agree on one thing


>he has to stretch like some girly yoga dork
>doesnt just fight through the pain like a true fragger
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Hunstman rework

Base damage of 45
Clip (not reserve pool) size of 3
Faster reload
Arrow holding movespeed penalty reduced to 10%
Damage does not increase with charge meter
There are only 2 projectile speeds, not fully charged and fully charged
Drawing for the arrow for too long just resets the charge meter instead of making the arrow uselessly inaccurate

The point of this is to make the bow more consistent and more forgiving on both ends. Personally I think it also needs a much clearer firing animation, where the sniper flings his drawing to the side or something.
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Post godtier achievements
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pyro update when
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>>173000969
>not this
>>
80 characters isnt enough for a description. I wanna give my rocket launcher a description explaining how the odds of getting a random crit increase based off of how much damage youve done in the past 20 seconds, but I cant fit all I want to post.
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>>173000261
>>173000374
>>173000712
>>173000882
Fragg Daddy made a video specifically about this.
https://youtu.be/tlg1nBpHypc
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>>173002394
>Crit chance increases with damage dealt in the past 20 seconds
Wow that was hard.
>>
>>173002528
That sounds lame as heck.
>>
>>173002608
Do you want it to fit or not?
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>>173002608
>I fragg so fucking hard I get more than normal random fritz you maggot!
Add or drop shit to your liking
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LITTLE
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>>173002656
i would rather just not do it if it's not gonna sound good
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>>172994420
pyro
>>
>>173003272
what mod is that
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So as we all know unless you are a filthy fucking newfag, the gunboats are only for the soldier because he won during the war update.
However, if the demoman won, would the item actually work ingame, i.e. reduced stickyjump damage at the cost of his grenade launcher?
>>
>>173005564
it might be less popular than it is on soldier, but I can definitely see it being used
>>
>>173005564
Imo gunboats on demo would be 100% imba, especially with the original -75% blast jump damage stat.
Another factor to consider is it came out before stickies got nerfed.
>>
>>173005564
i dont think demo would have gotten gunboats if he won the war
if you played tf2 classic then you would have known that the gunboats are an actual unlock for demo that replaces his grenade launcher
and also the fact that every single server disables it because its completely fucking broken
imagine a soldier with like 6 rockets that can self detonate

i think demo might have won the war but the devs realized how stupid powerful that would be so they skewed some numbers and made the soldier win
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>>172981848
Probably. 25% faster charge rate really is something along with assists, revealing Spy and extinguishing fires.
I like Hitman's and Bazaar too but they're sort of hardscoping (sooner for Bazaar, later at Hitman's)

>>172982814
>DDS
Charge QBL stickies, engage with Enforcer or play a Liberty or Beggar's-Gunboats Soldier.
>Machina
Spam Scorch/Det to force him go Cozy Camper, also above applies; replace Enforcer for Ambassy.
>corners
Huntsman, you can't escape Huntsman. And again, stickies with stock GL.
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>>172951434
wheres the previous thread you fuck
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Hey rate my spy loadout guys
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rate my spy loadout, mines the best
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>>173006689
community workshop/10
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>>173006787
2fps/60
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>>173006787
This is what reddit wants when they say they want more cosmetic slots and less restrictions
>>
>>173006689
RSTT
>>
>>173006787
>no dancing monkeys
>no dancing jesus
>no crying smiley face
>not enough cats
smiling shit /10 famalam
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>>173007229
fuck you you fucking gibus wearing green lime loving heavy pocketing doublejump ignoring quickfix using gunboat nerfing spy ragequitting dangershield equipping newfag. You cant fucking tell me what is good and what is bad in this fuckign game, who do you think you are? I have played this game for years, YEARS, and I have more than 900 hours in competitive tf2 spy play, and then you have the fucking audacity to throw a fuckign acronym in my face like you failed english class in 3rd grade. you are ewverything that is wrong with tf2 yo ufucking piece of shit. i bet you also say the dead ringer is overpwoered just because you cant do basic anti spy strats so you would rather have the entire game change instead of changing a tiny detail in yoru playstyle, you are just like the ufcking liberals that want to change the world intead of just changing themselves. go jump in a whole and then beg the whole to change instead of tryign to climb out yourself nad see how it goes you piece of shit. Saying rstt is the new tip fedora meme of the community and it is only used by people who cant evven properly word their opinions so they jus go by what they think everyone else will say and then hide behind its just a meme bro, well guess what you idiot, being unable to actually explain your opinion and just throwing an acronym at someone does not amke you cool or edgy, it makes you a fuccboi beyond proportion, a pushover that will follow any popular opinion just because he wants to fit in and be one of the cool older kids when in reality all you are really doing is trying to get approval out of strangers on the internet who also want the approval of strangers on the interent, The brain rot after years of using imageboards has likely set in at this point so you cant even be bothered typing out more than 4 letters but i am glad to see you at the very least could find the energy in you to hold down shift.
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>>173007646
I didn't read any of that, thanks for the (You) though.
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>>173006787
the fucking clown shoes got me
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Are people still upset over this?

Are you?
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>be me
>kill sniper with australium sniper rifle
>take/equip his sniper rifle
>leave server
>mfw i took his rare rifle and its now in my bp
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>>173009406
Its kind of funny but I also get why people rage at it.
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>>173009613
I don't get it.

I see someone using a 'strayum, and I kill them, i'm gonna use it. I'm helpin' you boost your strange anyway, what's the problem?
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>>173009729
The strange mechanics don't work when someone picks up your gun. It's the same as in csgo. When you drop a stattrak/strange and someone picks it up. None of the kills are counted
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>>173009406
No, but they will be when valve adds hat looting.
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The Sydney Sleeper: Allows beginner snipers to benefit their team consistently. Rewards bodyshots, but incentivizes headshots. Does not reward the Sniper himself, but rather his team mates, allowing them to easily clean up after a sniper that is still learning. A good beginner weapon that incentivizes the right things and allows a poor Sniper to better support his team.
The Machina: It's benefit requires a full charge, which encourages slow scopes over quick scopes. A fully charged headshot from a stock rifle will one hit kill nearly all classes in all situations, so it's benefit only supports body shots as well. A bad beginner weapon that teaches bad habits.
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sleeper snipers still get rekt by stock snipers and thats what matters
they also have little incentive to improve
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>>173009729
It is about exclusivity. People spend good money on their item before you could pick them up. They saw them as exclusive, just for them, just like their expensive hats.
So when some rando can literally just pick it up, it annoys them, as it removes the spectacle and exclusivity of your token item.

Think of it like this. The 1st class lounge at the airport is only a big deal because so few people get to be there. Inside the food is just as average as any other place, and the chairs are not even that great. It is literally only the exclusivity that gives it value.

I don't care though. If an f2p takes my expensive item I just kill him and take it back to establish dominance.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKFgWuiMhI

Fucking Kino SFM.
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I think I have a tf2 addiction how do i stop myself
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How does one get proficient at sniper or hitscan? I still cant quite get a grasp on hitscan classes.
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>>172994420
scout
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>>173011858
i think you need to practice
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>>173011131
this is really good

there should be a demo vs soldier fight on the bridge scene
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>>173011131
Fuckong mint.
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holy shit this thing is useless

why did they nerf it so hard

i end up killing myself more often than someone else

fucking retarded dev team
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>>173013230
Its retarded gamedesign in general.
Counterplay is no fun, its literally a free kill that you cant counter in any way.

If they want to fix it they need to rework it entirely.
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>use Mad Milk to try and shit on Dead Ringer spys
>as a Scout, spies are rarely an issue, so I have to go looking for them myself
>dash around, checking my teammates backs
>inevitably, I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time and am not able to get the Spy before he stabs someone
>whatever, milk and kill him anyways
>first shot, his dead ringer triggers
>oh wait, he's super sonic racing back to his team now, who is not too far away because this isnt a fuckin mge arena and our teams are fairly close so as to fight each other
>take more shots, but it's hard to make him out from the milk effect
>he inevitably makes it back safe to his team
>this continues because my team can't turn around
>I only catch him on occasion when he extends too far into our turf
>he ends up top scoring despite my efforts
Is this really the counter to Dead Ringers?
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>>172961287
broeselhud top tier
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The pyro update that's coming soon (tm) pubs will be filled to the brim with pyro, and the resulting spy main years will be quite delicious.
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>>173011131
Why Jane tho? Shouldn't it be Joe or John? Like John doe?
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>>173013230
It was a fucking facestab knife. Attached to the class that can either get right in your face with resistances or jump the entire map in one shot.
Just use your gun, it's not hard.
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>>173013286
>its literally a free kill that you cant counter in any way.
are you incapable of moving your mouse around and pressing a few buttons on your keyboard you awful player
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PpoPOpOOttis
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>>173013693
t. sniper
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>>173013289
the counter to dead ringers is shooting the spy before he kills anyone repeatedly. one shot from you makes him have to run all the way to an ammopack wasting 0.6 seconds of your time, and like 6-7 seconds of his time
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>>173011858
A good pair of headphones to listen for decloaks. Low sens, nice large enough FoV, no accel or too low. Click necks.
Grow gamesense, don't hardscope near loud gunfire, crouch evade opponents, jump to cancel scope quickly if you can't see target.
Know the sights you can use in the map; catwalks, stairs, gap between plates, windows, behind rocks.
If too close use your elbows to turn quickly and lead the shot against a fast moving target. You have low mouse sens, remember?
Tune right before you take the shot and track long range targets with your wrist flicks. Look into "strafe aim" and "twitch shot" tutorials.
If you can't stable your sights because you're on the move or jerking your mouse, compensate for your movement and lead the shot.

>>173013230
It's only for disorienting pockets infront of a Sentry now.

>>173013289
Sadly yes. If you can make him was 15-20 seconds running back to his team then you did your job, somewhat.
Blow him away with Force-a-Nature or F'oW tag him too.
>this continues because my team can't turn around
Found the problem. Sorry.
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>>173013743
are you incapable of moving your mouse around while charging with tide turner

caber got nerfed because it was doing more damage than was originally intended by the devs, you can either cry about it or equip loch
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frosty i know its you
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>>173011858
bullets dont have travel time. you have to click directly on people.
track people as closely as possible, but flick to make small adjustments if you really have to.
turn off mouse acceleration
lower your sensitivity a lot. 10 inches per 360 is considered a high sensitivity for scout/snipers
make sure you're playing on as many frames per second as possible. if you have a 60hz monitor, you can lower your native resolution to 1024:768, and then boost your monitors refresh rate to 75 hz. if you really like this game, you'll need a 144hz monitor to get past the lowest competitive divisions.
and lastly: practice. dont expect to be even half decent at TF2 until you've sunk 2-4k hours into it. the game has a really high entry level compared to any other game i've seen besides like Quake, or Starcraft.

good luck anon
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>>173014102
wait when did it get nerfed? even when it one-hit 125 health classes, it wasnt op if you could move and aim. getting a melee hit on a non-retarded player should be nearly impossible my dude
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>>173013867
>>173013924
But that isn't fun. I want to kill. I want to kill those stupid smug spies and laugh in their no skill faces. I want to shut them down and make sure they have no fun.
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http://tf2r.com/kez6i6g.html
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>>173014352
>getting a melee hit on a non-retarded player should be nearly impossible
Once again you are failing to disregard that a non-retarded demo has the best get-in-your-face abilities in the game.

The grenade launchers are all really good, you should shoot them sometime.
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>>173013924
I picked all this up on my own awhile ago.
Feels good to be the best sniper in a pub match almost every time.
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>>173014372
>I want to kill those stupid smug spies
Crouch under their revolver fire range, strafe alot.
Sydney can tag them for a little while if they dare to pass a chokepoint.
>I want to shut them down and make sure they have no fun.
Play Scout.

>>173013867
>shooting the spy before he kills anyone repeatedly
Won't be a consistent solution, staggering him for a second (for DR to lose damage mitigation) then unleashing a pellet barrage is more effective.
DR is a mini-uber, you can't really be effective without a good control impairment, or know his next move; destroyed buildings or ammo packs.
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GUYS QUICK I NEED A WAIFU WOH EVER ROLLS A SEBEN IS THE ONE I CHOOSE.
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>>173015135
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good raffle
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>>173015135
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>>173015184
fempyro
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>>173015135
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>>173015135
>>173015417
oshit
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>>173015214
rerafl
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HEAVY STOP SAYING POOTIS!
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https://youtu.be/2Ugb7NKVxtk

And it's done.
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>>172965759
>>172996458
>>172999432
>>173015417
i like engi, he kills niggers and dosent afraid of anything
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>>173015135
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>>173016259
>That literal child
stop posting here kiddo, ur not old enough
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>win vkh's raffle
>get sent duplicate product code
Sweet.
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did anyone actually get any of these achievements? ive been playing this game for years and i still dont have any of them
>tfw standin is dead as fuck
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>>173016843
Just add me
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>>172951434
https://www.amazon.com/Fight-Songs-Music-Team-Fortress/dp/B06XD1XBS9/ref=tmm_msc_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

If one of you faggots buy this, be sure to upload it to MEGA and put the link in the OP/Pastebin.
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>>173017083
all of those songs are in the game already. you can just extract the sound files
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>>173016962
Comp players play a lot of process and snakewater.
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>>173017141
>implying somebody who's still stealing music in 2017 knows what GCFScrape is.
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>>173017141
Yes, in shit quality. The official OST will have them in at least 320kbps.
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>>173016962
I have all of them except Stand and Deliver. No idea why the counts are so obnoxiously high, and why they're all in increasing amounts, must be some inside joke that no one is privy to.
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>>173017141
>implying anyone will buy the digital version that doesnt come with a hat
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>>173014458
>leech with zero rep wins again
This is why vibri doesn't raffle unusuals anymore
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>>173016259
RED boys, Rowdy boys
when all was lost, but he came back to save us from the BLU scum
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vibri raffled an unusual like a week ago, you frickin dweeb

tfw you won an unusual from vibri
tfw its your first and you wear it every day
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>>173018413
Remember this, around blues, you lose
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>>173018428
You mean the one he said was his last?
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>>173011131
FINALLY AN EXCUSE TO POST MY SUBPAR MEMES
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>>173018413
I'd rather be dead than RED.
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>>173018428
tfw you also won an unusual from vibri
tfw you sold it for a different unusual + some other items that were previously out of reach
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>>173018428
tfw FUGGED vibri
tfw marriage soon
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I T S O V E R
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fug
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>>173011131
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>>173011131
And thats it, sorry in advance
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RYUKE WHEN IS THE NEXT TOURNAMENT, I NEED TO KILL
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>>173019394
http://www.strawpoll.me/12673165
Multiple answers allowed.
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>>173019546
>Tuseday
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>>173019849
Mistakes were made. I was more concerned with fucking up wednesday.
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Who the fuck enters a tournament on sunday you sad fucks
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not frasgging everyday
im starting to think theres some idots here
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OK THEN RYUKE, WHAT IS THE THEME OF THE NEXT BLOOD SPORT, I NEED TO FEEL MY BIOLETS KILL BABBY MEN
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>>173020829
Well me and Sub were talking, he said he'd donate a bit to the prize pool. I was thinking Axtinguisher Pyro because of the never dropping update.

>2:54 AM - substrata: Make it Golden Axe themed
Australium Axe!
Who can reclaim the weapon forged by the Gods from the hands of Dark Guld?!
16 Tyris Flares compete to see who shall challenge the beast!
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>>173016259
Reminder that lag isn't OK unless it works in your favor.
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>>173013663
his name is Jane Doe dumbass
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>>173021805
but that doesn't make sense. jane doe is a girl name. shouldn't the soldier's name be john doe?
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>>173016568
wtf i wanna fuck viri now
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>>173021862
thats what they went with
heavy's name is Misha which in english is generally a girl's name
they just have girl names cause fuck you they can
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>>173021862
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>>173021862
Because Soldier is actually a lesbian.
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>>173021979
>>173022027
>>173022112
haha i tricked you all along i wasn't the guy who posted that first comment at all
the (you)'s weren't worth it, why do people bother with this
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>>173022112
what if soldier actually is a girl
and she's over compensating like mad with the america show...
actually that would explain the lack of a bulge in the honey we've seen
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>>173022146
lol I didn't even see the first comment
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Guy who first posted here, ypur welcome ro keep tbose (yous). Guess i need to read up on my comics.
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>>173022146
to get a (You) from you.

>>173022243
I wouldn't be surprised if Soldier turn to woman in the end of comic via time-space continuum fuckery. but I don't think so. Soldier's bulge or dick area mostly censored anyway.

>>173021979
Regarding uncle google, "Misha" is a boy's name but "Mischa" is a girl's name
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>>173022613
>bulge outlines
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>>173022613
>to get a (You) from you.
gasp i've been double tricked
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>>173022741
you just gave him another
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>>173021979
Misha is actually short for Mikhail.

In english, the heavy's name would be Mike.
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MIKE WAZOWSKI, REMOVE KEBABE
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tf2 forced class diversity update

>Scout
>Now moves at 520 speed while carrying the intelligence.
>Skin is now browner. Not as dark as an Italian but darker than a Mexican.
>Is now a Sikh and must wear a turban at all times.

>Pyro
>Now has 20% faster weapon switch as an innate class ability.
>FemPyro added as an alternative stock player model. Default Pyro confirmed to be Gordon Freeman after suffering time-travel induced dementia.

>Demoman
>Stickies can now knock back airborne allies at hald strength without damaging them.
>Is now a trans-white male like Michael Jackson.

>Spy
>Can now see enemy team chat as an innate class ability.
>Is now a Muslim.
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We need to go deeper
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>>173023815
>italians darker than mexicans
what
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Ok

Sniper: now can fire headshots unscoped, recapping resets the timer. He's a lgbtbbq homiqyeer that likes boys

Medic: becomes not gay. Needle gun

Heavy: is now black, craves dat white wemons. Faster movement speed

Sodier: hat removed, replaced with messy long hair. Liberty launcher is viable
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Engineer: Still from Texas.
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>>173024595
THE BASTARDS HOW DARE THEY ASSASSINATE AN ESTABLISHED CHARACTER LIKE THIS
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I finally found it mouseboy.
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>>172994420
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one hour remaining for the
W R A P
R
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W R A F F L E
R
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F
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http://tf2r.com/kklu9u5.html
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>blow out Blu on gravelpit
>half the team gets Impossible Defense

Every. Time.
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heavy should move at demoman speed but have GRU removed and eviction notice passive speed buff removed

prove me wrong
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>>173025738
in that case soldier should have medic speed
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>Biggest guy from the roster moving like a slug.
>Expect him to move like some rabbit in heat.

Jee, it's like people who are huge aren't the most mobile of people.
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>>173025905
Medic should have Scout speed.
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>>173026072

Everyone should run at scout speed.

It's the only way to balance everyone out.
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>>173025905
no im serious

soldier already has rocket jumps and the minigun would still slow heavy down drastically so nothing much changes
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>>173026127
Scout should run at Sonic speed.
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>>173026208
Everyone should just run so fast that they become smears on your screen.
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>>173025983
he may be big and have stubby legs but he's also like 350 pounds with 260 pounds of lean mass, there's no reason he should move as slow as the people who main him
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>>173026274
Makes sense as a character. Big guy, moves slow.

In-game he's completely fucked by this but I don't think valve thought too far ahead in this regard.
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scattergun
+on hit of 5 pellets or more: force enemy to shoot their weapon twice in a row
-30% damage penalty

rate
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>>173026948
for why
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for being an annoying cunt
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>>173026948
ayy lmao this is one of the worst stats i have ever seen
Instead of the shoot weapons 2 times thing make them unable to move
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God, why does scout have shitty fucking side grades. He's literally one of the most balanced classes, the other being sniper.

Scat gun idea:
Shoots literal fecal matter, haha pranked ya.

+34% clip size
-25% damage
+10% movement speed increase
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rocket launcher
+10% faster reload speed
+Alt-Fire: Fire both shots at once parallel to each other
+Reloads even when not in use
+20% faster draw & holster speed
-50% clip size
-Reloads full clip at once so less spammy
-25% damage penalty
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>>173028165
most scout unlocks are fucking op
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>>173028415
Most of them are trash now though:
-Baby faces got cuck'd to the point where it's laughable.
-Soda popper is useless.
-Shortstop isn't even a scattergun imo.
It's like an upgraded pistol.
-Backscatter is a good concept, it rewards scouts for flanking but the bullet spread is ass. So it's not even worth using.

Only sidegrade WORTH using IS force-of-cuckery.
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list of direct upgrade primaries:

soda popper
original
rainblower
nostromo napalmer
widowmaker
machina
bazaar bargain
hitman's heatmaker
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>>173028606
>nostromo napalmer
How?
>Widowmaker
Only if you never place buildings
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>>173016962
I do, and I got them without using SAM.
I got them by setting up a local server with a team full of scout bots and leaving my computer on overnight.
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>>173028605
primaries yeah
cola, cleaver, sandman, atomizer, bonk and milk are all questionable in terms of balance
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>>173028704
shorter third person nozzle

easier to camp corners
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>>173028606
The only direct upgrade weapons are:
Flamethrower -> Rainblower (kill taunt)
Fire Axe -> Third Degree (damage passes through medibeams)
Jarate -> Self-Aware Beauty Mark (longer max throw distance)

All other weapons include some form of downgrade to the stock weapons.
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https://www.twitch tv/yauch_

ozf im finals
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>>173028606
>Nostromo a direct upgrade
>No stranges.

LMAO no.
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>>173029096
why do they use that hud
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>>173028605
popper has higher dps than scattergun
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>>173029467
taking the piss i guess
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Post Revengineers
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>>173028606
thats a funny way to spell jag
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who /lmaobox/ here?
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>>173029929
kill you're self
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>>173029820
I never get revenge. I dominate, bb.
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>>173029929
>Using cheats.
>Not being able to aim in the year 2k17
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>>173028606
>hitman's heatmaker
It can be even a downgrade, because you don't actually use it right until you hardscope and it has a damage penalty on bodyshot.

>>173028605
I almost use all of them with little to no complaints, besides Shortstop.
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pyro update leaked official

>Increased base movement speed to 320.
>Pyro now has 20% faster weapon switch as a innate class attribute.
>Removed Reserve Shooter from Pyro class.
>Flamethrower: Fixed variable particle range. Increased range overall by 10%. Widened airblast cone of fire. Fixed point blank hits and hits against buildings occasionally not registering. Now has up to 120% ramp-up at absolute point blank.
>Degreaser: Now grants 30% faster weapon switching to-and-from all weapons. Removed airblast cost penalty.
>Phlogistinator: Now has unlimited ammunition.
>Detonator: Removed damage penalty & increased self damage penalty.
>Axtinguisher: Removed slower draw speed.
>Powerjack: No longer grants speed boost when held. Instead allows the user to regain 75 health on kill, which can overheal.
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>>173032754
before I say anything further, this IS bait, right?
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>>173032959
no it's official leak release
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>>173032754
just give the phlog heal on taunt again and were fine
you can remove the uber shit, even make it so theres no damage resist
just give me the heal back so i can do phlog/det again and not kill myself for jumping more than 3 times
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>>173032754
fuck, forgot
>Removed Pyro from the game.
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>>172957707
>WHITE DEMO
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detonator jumping is FUN!
gunboats for pyro when
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>>173033002
okay let's assume it's not bait and break down why it's fucking retarded for the education of anyone on /vg/ who may be confused

>buffed w+m1
>added yet another gay gimmick to Pyro that does fuck all to actually make it viable
>deleted a weapon people paid money for, rather than reworking it when it's cancer on Soldier anyway
>good, irrelevant, bad and makes me think this is bait, is this a satire post,
>made degreaser a near-straight upgrade to stock again
>???
>not even Valve would be this stupid
>only good thing in the whole post yet doesn't fix the problem
>not_like_this.jpg

Pyro's fundamental problem is it's too good against shitters, and too shit against good players.

Your post makes Pyro even better against shitters, and yet still not good enough to compete with good players on good classes.
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>>173031349
bad idea train, issue #232:
>give players a small craftable artifact just like spellcaster magazines and powerup canteens
>artifact triggers if you die in 20 seconds after your spawn.
>option A: grants slight (5%) sentry or critical "resistance" on respawn for a small duration upon choice or based on class.
>option B: disregarding class or choices, artifact reduces your respawn timer by 2-3 seconds when you die to a "random" crit.
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99% of people wouldn't even care if they made no random crits default
they'd pretend to care to be contrarians though
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>Tfw 30% of my casual deaths are to random crits
remove when
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remove pottis
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>>173033363
I want no random crits as default in community servers and leave it on in casual servers.

That way, nobody will ever be able to bitch again that they can't find a nocrit server. People who like random crits can still play with them.

https://youtu.be/HHEMS68C5DY?t=291

Reminder that Robin Walker says random crits are in the game partially to give salty shitters something to blame when they die, rather than their own lack of skill or their team.
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>>173033571
Funny, I wrote this post before seeing >>173033448
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>>173033571
>lack of skill for dying to a crit
okay
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>>173033696
>"To partially blame--"
>Somehow thinking this was talking about either persons skill.

Learn to read, nigger.

It's just some bullshit to keep people from putting the blame directly to their team.
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>>173033887
He said
>give salty shitters something to blame when they die, rather than their own lack of skill
Why else would you blame a crit for dying unless you were killed by a crit?
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>>173034074
>at 50hp because you failed to dodge the last 3 rockets
>270 damage crocket hits you
>you would have died to it anyway were it a non-crit rocket

>begin spamming RANDOM CRITS ARE FAIR AND BALANCED bind despite this to save your shattered ego
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>>173034186
>180 hp
>winning a 1v1 against a soldier
>insta kills you with random crit
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>>173034409
And how does that change my point, senpai?

Either way, whether you died fairly or unfairly, you get to blame the random crits. So they're fulfilling their purpose.
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>>173034670
Because dying unfairly shouldn't be a thing.
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>>173033203
let me take a crack at a good pyro update, and you tell me what you think

>fixed reflected projectiles going in unintended directions
>direct fire damage is now a ramp-up, where starting fire damage is lower than normal, and as the fire stream connects, damage increases to about 1.5x normal (kills a heavy about a half second earlier)
>backburner: mini-crits from behind. applies a 10% damage increase to the target for as long as the afterburn of the last mini-crit hit lasts.
>degreaser: pressing the special key reflects a projectile at your feet. ammo cost: 35
>phlog: removed all resistances on mmmph activation. heals 50% of current health on mmmph, which can overheal. 25% faster mmmph time.
>detonator: mini-crit kills heal 45 health. right-click without a projectile in the air detonates a flare point-blank, allowing for a double-jump, with 50% less height gained.
>scorch shot: slightly higher jumps.
>manmelter: +50 health on extinguish. stores 2 crits per extinguish. removed effect when firing a ctitical shot for better player sight.
>axtinguisher: reverted to original state. critical hits now remove fire.
>sharpened volcano: now stores a damage boost on burning targets hit, 1 boost max. right-click with the weapon to gain a 10% damage increase that lasts 3 seconds. applies to all weapons.
>homewrecker: when active: 100% knockback decrease from sentries. 25% damage reduction from sentries.
>third degree: on double-hit: prevent uber activation for 3 seconds. -50% damage to medic on double hit, -10% damage on non-double hit.

be gentle
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nah, i got a better idea
>pyro removed
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>>173034731
Well it's going to be anyway, so get used to it. You're in a pub with completely random teams where yours might be 11 Snipers and the other could be 11 B4nnys, because casual matchmaking isn't skill-indexed.

Looking for a fair game? Go to competitive.

http://playcomp.tf/

In fact, one of the reasons I like random crits is that it drives people like you into comp, keeping us alive.
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>>173034735
Everything is dumb, the first thing has already been fixed and det jumping gives you more height than a double jump
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>>173034764
I've got an even better idea.

>Pyro replaced with fempyro.
>Extinguished allies now get a kissu~ on the cheek.
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Fempyro is a strong independent woman who doesn't let her gender or sexuality get in the way of killing things with fire
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how many dick you had to sick for your hat?
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>>173034857
supposed to give a class without utility at least a bit of it. up until now theyve basically been looking to make pyro either a reflect whore, a puff and sting, or w+m1. what they ought to do is add at least some specialty shit so youre not guaranteed into one of those 3 categories.

the midair det jump would be good for moving around the map and getting to flank points that the pyro normally cant. youve got height, but not a lot of vertical movement. not as much vertical movement as scout's double jump, but enough to get you across a gap that the normal det jump cant manage.
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>>173029929
How old this screenshot? 2013?
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>>173034735
here i am
>>unintended directions
been fixed
>>direct fire damage is now a ramp-up
Don't like it. You're making Pyro stronger against his intended counter heavy, and weaker against the class he needs to compete with the most to be comp viable (scout, who can quickly spam dodge to avoid ramp-up).
>backburner
i guess this one is okay but it feels like an overall nerf to a weapon that's already weak
> pressing the special key reflects a projectile at your feet
make it a new flamethrower
>phlog
good change apart from the mmph time, don't buff that
>det
i'd prefer to see it made more effective at its job than gain another job
>scorch
good
>melter
agree on the effect and storing 2 crits. no to the increased heal, it just makes melter spamming pyros take longer to kill each other and prolongs the game
>axtinguisher
I like it but I don't because old axtinguisher was unironically too strong. Let's say we revert it to its original state, but with a small hp penalty, forcing pyros to adopt an ambush playstyle and rewarding them for it.
>homewrecker
good, sensible buff but you forgot to put a extra downside

your rework still hasn't fixed the problem with pyro. In order to ever be competitively viable, it needs large mobility buffs, range buffs, or damage buffs. The main problem with pyro is its primary weapon primary fire. However your rework improved a few things here and there
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>>173035610
Fixing the flamethrower at a technical level is going to be a pain due to how lag compensation affects flame particles. For the sake of simplicity, let's assume that these are optimal networking conditions.
>Flamethrower now fires 2 class of flame particles: center and fray. These more or less is just a small particle centered inside a much larger one.
>Afterburn inflicted by a fray particle lasts for 10 seconds to deal 40 damage
>Afterburn inflicted by a center particle lasts for 5 seconds to deal 60 damage.
>DPS of combined direct-attack particles equates to roughly 200 DPS to reward good tracking and leading.
>Compression blast functions as a standard knockback source, rather than a stun.
The flamethrower sucks for damage because it's literally designed to be easy to use at an entry level, the problem is that they didn't really give any tactile feedback for getting good at tracking with it, as the theoretical DPS is pitiful while still being rather simple to use. My changes are aimed at rewarding consistent tracking with better DoT and raw streamed damage to the benefit of good players, while punishing players who flail around to lightly brush a target by giving them less damage potential. Additionally, I made the ever-present stun into something that takes skill to use properly. Combo whoring requiring skill would mean that the old Axtinguisher could come back, Reserve Shooter would cease to be as much of a nuisance, and an overall sentiment regarding Pyro would be less of an obnoxious fuckface.
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>>173036486
>My changes are aimed at rewarding consistent tracking with better DoT and raw streamed damage to the benefit of good players, while punishing players who flail around to lightly brush a target by giving them less damage potential

And this is a bad thing because it'll make Pyro have trouble with the two classes he desperately needs to be able to shut down at close range.

Scout is capable of obnoxiously spamming ADDDADDADADDADADDADDADAAADDADDAAADADDAD to break off any continuous stream of damage he's meant to be taking. Thus, such a ramp-up as you're suggesting will make Pyro weaker at fighting Scouts at close range, in addition to already being outclassed against them at mid and long range.

Spy, the class who Pyro is meant to counter to justify his existence, can turn invisible, get large speed boosts and gain various fire resistances/extinguishes. When you say "Pyro has to be able to track an invisible, fast-moving, fireproof Spy in order to kill it", you're pretty much taking away one of the few reasons for Pyro to exist. The ability to sweep across an area inflicting a DoT is the sole reason that Pyro counters Spy.

Want to skill-index the Flamethrower? Simply make the fire cone narrower entirely, and increase its range.

Don't worry about splitting up into needlessly complex "fray" and "center"; just make the whole thing narrower with the same damage.
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what kind of keyboard do YOU use?
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>>173036962
ducky shine 4 with clears.
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>>173036919
>And this is a bad thing because it'll make Pyro have trouble with the two classes he desperately needs to be able to shut down at close range.
You're responding to two different people. I just want Pyro to have better raw DPS for having good aim, while keeping pitiable damage for flailing around while grazing a target.

>Want to skill-index the Flamethrower? Simply make the fire cone narrower entirely, and increase its range. Don't worry about splitting up into needlessly complex "fray" and "center"; just make the whole thing narrower with the same damage.
See, this is what I wanted to avoid. Who in their right mind thinks it's acceptable for a class forced into close range to have a theoretical DPS just barely stronger than the support class's fallback weapon? Flamethrower sucks at throwing flames. Bumping it up to 200 DPS would help with direct combat across the board.
Mentioning range, the assumed range is actually tolerable for the Pyro's base movement speed if it weren't for the fact that flames and particles don't match up visually. There's not much you can really change there without fundamentally altering the class on a level beyond technicalities and specifics.
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>discussing random crits

>>173035393
>add to "more push force from all damage sources" (including self) to Third Degree
Pyro fixed. What now?
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>>173037614
>that fucking Knife
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>173037614
That fucking transparency
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>>173037940
it's actually a geniusly hidden garden-scissor.
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>>173036962
I bet b4nny always dreamed about keyboard like mine.
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>>173038409
only tripfag i dont filter desu
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>tfw going from maining demo to pyro
This is so much more relaxing
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>>173016568
>mfw there is no good porn about her
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>maining pyro
furfag brony weeaboo spotted
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>>173039681
Isabelle is pure, asshole
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>>173036962
SNSV cerberus
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>>173039892
nothing in the internet is pure you massive knob
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>>173039907
I had a SNSV laptop and getting anything for it was impossible. None of the employees at my local store had even heard of the brand
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>>173039978
My mistake
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>>173016568
>image.jpg
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>>173040194
give full pic
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>>173040194
https://youtu.be/kOxXGbtHqqI
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>>173040292
That is the full pic. That's the res I play tf2 at
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>>173035610
dunno who >>173036486 this faggot is, but lemme bounce some more ideas around.

>damage ramp-up isnt good
if a pyro can close the distance on a heavy and surprise him, he should earn himself the kill in anything other than an overhealed scenario. heavy is absolutely a counter to pyro, but when the pyro does his job and gets into extremely close ranges, he should be rewarded. maybe that other guy who said the 20% damage increase at absolute point blank had it right. would have to be tested, probably.
>backburner stuff
i lost sight of what i was trying to do on this one. i think the extra damage from behind is a neat idea, but it lacks the oompf that the spy can otherwise get. why get critical hits when the first *PTCHANG* will get any class to turn around and pound your face in. my idea was that, even if you couldnt earn the kill from the crits, the enemy would at least be in a worse situation once they turned around.
>degreaser special key
degreaser is in a hard spot where its a good flamethrower to reflect with, but making the switch-from speed too good will keep anyone from using the fire. by adding the special key buff i mentioned, it allows quick people to switch from their secondary, launch themselves toward an enemy, and close the distance easier than most other flamethrowers. the afterburn is still shit, but at the very least you can get direct fire damage off even when you start out at a distance.
>phlog mmmph
i meant the time it takes to do the taunt. nevermind that youre making a loud ass noise and standing immobile, youre stripping yourself of the reflect. the least you could do for that weapon is make the taunt time shorter.
>det
i tried to make it do its job better by adding the heal on mini-crit kill. there has to be some way to either get health back or reduce jump damage, because ~40 is way too big of a chunk on a class that needs to be close to an enemy and only has a pool of 175. the other job is just a cheap double-jump.
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Engineers that we all deserve.
>>173038857
That's because i post without my 'attentionwhore sign' most times.
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http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html
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>>173040796
>>173035610
cont.
>melter
maybe instead of the increased heal, add another element like:
>right-click vacuum affects enemies: sucks players towards the pyro when activated.
not strong enough to make people stand still when running away, but enough to be noticeable. would give the weapon some use outside of a pyro v pyro scenario
>axtinguisher
the old axtinguisher was very close to being balanced imo. closing the distance enough to land a melee hit after getting fire on the enemy was deserving of a kill, especially on light classes. the only problem came when the degreaser came out, and the kills were near-instant. now that the degreaser's switch speed got shat on, theres no reason for the ax to stay as shitty as it is. the extinguish is only to make sure that you dont abuse the crits on heavy or overhealed power classes.
>homewrecker
uhh i dunno no random critical hits or something. they gave a melee weapon increased building damage, but its almost always better to get shit with your flamethrower. at least with the decreased knockback and sentry damage, you can maybe get close enough to kill it. it would at least give the pyro some sentry survivability

all in all, i'd love to see the pyro as a utility class with some interesting options. right now, you can see some good starts on some of his weapons, but nothing is viable enough to outclass puff and sting or w+m1. the other idea i had was
>afterburned targets receive increased damage from all sources
in order to be an attacking crowd controller that helps the team, but i could see that getting a bit out of control at certain values. this is all hypothetical of course, the pyro update is just going to buff innate damage and make the scorch shot shit.
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no you get to pick MY waifu.
7 (seven, not seventeen) or 18
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>>173041756
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>>172987854
If there is something like that happening then chances are there's too much shit going on. I need to heal people back to health to prevent them from falling back, and there are always too many injured friendlies to heal, so I can't afford to unless there's a sentry/choke/game's on overtime.
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>>173041756
This is the one you want
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>>173041756
your waifu picks you you fucking idiot
nobody but her has the choice to to it for her
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>>173041950

lmao waifu aint real dumbass
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>>173040796
>but when the pyro does his job and gets into extremely close ranges, he should be rewarded
Even with all that said, read >>173036919. Making Flamethrower's damage based on ramp-up will make Pyro even worse than it is now against Scouts and Spies. Don't add ramp-up, just make the cone narrower.

>why get critical hits when the first *PTCHANG* will get any class to turn around and pound your face in
this is a good point and part of the reason why backburner is shit, but the main reason is Pyro doesn't have good flanking toolsto get behind comp players anyway, and basically his whole gameplay role focuses around his airblast atm, which backburner loses out on.
>the least you could do for that weapon is make the taunt time shorter.
That would require altering the animation and having 2 lines of stats instead of 1.

Why not just make the heal a full heal like it used to be, and not shortening the animation?

>i tried to make it do its job better by adding the heal on mini-crit kill. there has to be some way to either get health back or reduce jump damage,

Well, what I want to do is give Pyro an airblast jump on the Flamethrower by default, and make Detonator tie into that as being additional jumps that add to your mobility, rather than being the main source of mobility itself.

This would allow all Pyros to partake in advanced mobility without equipping a specific unlock item, and give Pyro the viable low-cost mid-reaching capability it needs to be an actual offensive class.
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>>173041950
No one else can feel it for you
Only you can let it in
No one else, no one else
Can speak the words on your lips
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>>173041937
God wills it.
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>>173034735
You forgot
>all pyro weapons do 15 percent less damage
I would never talk trash on pyro mains if they made it so he wasnt a brainless fucking W+m1 class.
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>>173042008
a waifu can be 2d or 3d it doesn't matter
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>>173042128
>even worse than it is against Scouts and Spies
the manmelter change is intended to fix the scout problem
>right click a scout who is just out of your range, pulling him to you
>shit on his face with the flame thrower
also, i'd entirely forgot about the spy. heres this:
>dead ringer no longer keeps the spy from being afterburned
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>>173041937
Ooo, a strong fighter and a follower of the faith.
She will make strong babies.
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>>173042342
thats the intention behind the ramp-up
if youre shit and just spray everywhere, your damage doesnt increase. youve gotta consistently land direct damage, or youre back to the base which would probably be about 10% less than it is now.

you really cant just shit on the damage all around, because at that point flames would be useless in all scenarios.
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what's the name of the soldier rocket launcher with the centered viewmodel?

does it have different stats from default?
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>>173042807
Fuck dude, don't post that kind of shit will I'm eating.
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>>173042874
original
no
its a straight upgrade
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>>173042903
because you dont want to fap when you eat?
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>>173042807
this is your waifu now
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>>173041543
>they gave a melee weapon increased building damage, but its almost always better to get shit with your flamethrower
agree strongly.

I'd do Homewrecker this way:

>+300% building damage: Now it can kill level 1 Sentries in a single hit, as well as being able to do the same to Sappers.
>Extremely reduced knockback while active: Like you said, to help with Sentries, and also to be useful in other ways. And fits the theme of a heavy hammer.
>Slower equip/holster: Fitting downside since it's meant to be heavy.
>300% Slower swing speed: Again theme, and so that Pyros can't repeatedly remove Sappers and nullify the impact of Sapping on a base easily if a Spy is spamming them.

All up I think it would make Homewrecker less good at assisting turtling Engies, and stronger at actually demolishing buildings.

>right-click vacuum affects enemies: sucks players towards the pyro when activated.
Valve have tried this before and dropped it for some reasons related to lag comp or something. Closest you'll get is current afterburn.

>all in all, i'd love to see the pyro as a utility class with some interesting options

Me too, sort of. Way I see it, Pyro should be a mobile, tough combat/support class since that role isn't currently filled.
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>>173042915
fuck how do i get it
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>Valve MM
>Que
>My team is 5 people with Ellis Cap, Gibus, and Pass time hats
>Our medic rushes in with blutsauger and dies without healing anyone
>2 Spies and a Sniper
>Enemy team has 4 people wearing unusuals
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT OF RANKING WHEN IT DOSENT EVEN FACTOR THEM IN MATCHMAKING
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>>173042807
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>>173042807
if 1 or 8 you wont have waifu
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>>173042937
I don't want to puke when I eat.
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>>173042504
>relies on a specific unlock to work
>it's basically a stun and we know how everyone feels about those; comp community would probably ban it within seconds
no sir, I don't think you're on the right track there, much as I'd like Pyro to have more utility
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>>173042975
craft it
trade for it
kike.tf
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>>173042807
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>>173043068
not a stun my dude
scouts like to jump around like retards when they get into fights. the suction would be greater when enemies are in the air, and lesser when on the ground. pulling enemies close would give you enough time to get some flame damage off, but the suction wouldnt be enough to keep a class who is running away in your range. think of it as a natascha when people are running on the ground, and a reverse airblast when in the air.
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>>173043280
Suction or something grapple would completely fuckup the positioning in combat.
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>>173043280
not a stun, but the end result is the same: a player losing control of their movement

and you'll be building the whole class around Manmelter, too
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https://tf2r.com/kf85m1f.html
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>>173043513
>>173043598
shit uhh okay how about this
>right click pulls projectiles in your direction and slows them by about 25%
gives you enough time to pull out the degreaser and airblast shit back, or at the very least get them away from your medic or some shit
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>>173043863
How about this:
>quicker weapon switch
>reflect
sounds familiar to me how about you?
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>>173043863
doesnt seem to make much diff

just stick with the crits man
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>>173044029
what do you mean my dude
>>173044229
theres gotta be something to make the weapon halfway viable when theres no stuff to suck up. infinite ammo and projectile speed is okay, but for fucks sake it has to see some use when theres not 5 pyros on the other team.
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>>173044396
>but for fucks sake it has to see some use when theres not 5 pyros on the other team.
Make it hold 2 shots but have slower fire rate. When emptied it will reload even slower anyway and animation will play twice. Biggest comfort you have will be having 2 shots before reload.
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real pryo fixes

https://pastebin.com/BQeBaTii
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>>173044396
>theres gotta be something to make the weapon halfway viable when theres no stuff to suck up
okay then, make it so it stores a crit on assists

problem solverino'd
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>>173044901
>real
this is just something you wrote on reddit though

it isn't very good either, the whole "levels" thing is needlessly complex
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>>173044728
good
>>173044916
too good
maybe like mini crits or something
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>>173031349
Remove random crits but keep earned crts, e.g. Frontier Justice. Kritz, etc
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How would you buff spy
Hard mode: without touching the dead ringer
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>>173031349
do hero shooter clones have random crits?

I'm just confused that this is even a debate. I've never seen someone able to defend crits anyway.
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http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html
http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html
http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html

reminder
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>>173046796
>scout disguises match the speed of the scout
>press the special key to switch between spy's base speed and the disguise's speed while disguised
literally it
dead ringer needs to be shat on, not buffed you donkey.
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Suprisingly the Blutsauger is viable in valve MM if your team cant defend you properly.
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>>173047325
>valve MM
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>>173047232
Never said the DR needed to be buffed, but everyone here thinks that nerfing it into the ground will somehow help spy as a class.
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>>173047415
It's more fun than casual desu
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>>173047457
Spy doesn't need help it needs to be put down.
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>>173046796
I'd nerf deadringer's total cloak duration to 6 seconds from 7
Dimmer CnD decloak noise while standing perfectly still along the animation and full cloakmeter.
Holding Sapper and pressing M1 may mimic fire animation of some weapons (without fire flash) so disguising as Medic made more believeable (a pseudo buff for DR to doppelganger as teammate Medic)
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>>173047457
its overly viable right now. if you know your shit, dying basically doesnt happen. you could reasonably give every other watch a 25% respawn time reduction and it still wouldnt touch the dead ringer right now.

all they need to do is make it so that burn/bleed/milk/jarate persist through the death feign. keep the movement speed or whatever, but make it so the damn thing actually has a counter besides being a psychic or hoping the spy doesnt know to get more metal.
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>>173046796
While invisible: Movespeed increases up to 15% over 2 seconds
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Pick a weapon and rename it to "Kurt Cobain's Last _______"
Others try to guess what it is
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>>173046796
i'm new why does everyone talk about the dead ringer
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>>173047905
Because it is THE weapon for causing the most asshurt
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>>173047905
>right click feigns your death instead of making you invisible
>on feign death, you drop a body and gain fucktons of movement speed, invisibility, and damage resist for 7 seconds
>can be filled up again by picking up ammo packs
>also removes all active debuffs and prevents afterburn for the majority of its duration

its a get out of jail free card that allows you to very rarely die. you have to constantly be checking for spies, and even if you KNOW he went and dropped a fake body, you cant kill him because the designed counters dont work.
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They should make the DR work like it did in tfc where the spy just lays on the floor and pretends to be dead desu
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Never realized how fast the C&D drained. Christ, I hate having to stop every 4 or so seconds.
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>>173048576
noone would fall for that ever
>>
alright, double-challenge here for the folks of tf2g

>design a secondary for Engineer that is both viable and wouldn't be banned in a comp scenario
or
>design a melee for Demoman that is a viable sidegrade to the bottle/pain train and doesn't have the switch speed reduction of his other melees.
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>>173048576
Yeah but it would be really fucking easy to check for spies if they just stood still
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>>173023815
spy is a class of peace
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I'll be your husbando for tonight, nerd.

roll a 2 or a 4.
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This is why no one plays medic in comp
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Any good tips for playing soldier well?

I've beem mainly playing engi or medic, but I felt that learning how to play soldier would help out in some situations.
So after watching some general guides as well as rocket jump videos I'be been trying it for a few days recently with the following loadout:
Default/Cow mangler 5000
The Conchoror(?)
Default/diciplinary action
I mainly try to aim for objectives, and stick around it unless I see targets of oppertunity (sentry in open view, spies if I see them, medics).
However I am dumbfounded at how chaotic the frontline is. When I focus on a target to fight suddenly more enemies come from the flank, or god forbid spies. They come too fast and I'm decimated before I can react. How do you other solders get used to sudden shift in frontlines?
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>>173048753
>Engi secondary
Give him a fucking revolver, he's texan and they avoided doing so for almost ten years now
>Demo melee
Half damage, hits knock people back like the shortstop shove but twice as much. Useful for getting people off your face and into firing range, or into stickitraps
>>173048894
This time i'll get it
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>>173048894
I'll roll even tho I have no idea what you will do
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>>173048894
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>>173048894
Does that mean I get to pocket you in Comp?
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>>173049246
>Doesn't post the previous times where I've won several times.

???
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>>173048894
mmm daddy
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What playstyle and personality does this medic have?
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>>173048753
how about both

>Engineer Secondary
+No reload required
-Per shot: -3 metal
-Uses Metal for ammo

>Demoman Melee
+just the market gardener but for demoman
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>>173049407
I dont screenshot those of course, thats up to you
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>>173048894
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>>173048894
If I get it will you MGE me like I asked you to do on your profile
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>>173048894
Draw something extra thicc
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Rate my scout.
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>>173049814
h-hes fast
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>>173048894
Draw a rule 63 minisentry
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Rate my pyro.
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>>173050091
10/10
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>>173050037
Mini x (s)entry buster.
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r8 my medic
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>>173050502
"Oh, Buster-kun, you are so big~"
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>>173050519
>bill's+buds
SHIT
H
I
T
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>>173050617
why?
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>>173048894
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>>173050941
basic bitch setup
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>>173051141
got a better idea?
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Do you have any collector's items?
If so, what are they?
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>>173051220
go stock
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>>173050941
A remnant of obnoxious traders in the past, where they wore them because of ((((value)))) rather than aesthetics. This is still the case with unusuals and similarly valued items.
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>>173048753
Engi secondary
how about a pistol that can shoot sappers off
name it "the quick draw"
pulls out supper fast and can one shot sappers quicker than y'all can blink
>demo melee
something that bleeds would be cool
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So anons, how much are you willing to sell your soul for?
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>>173051302
go suck my dick
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Why haven't you cashed out your unusuals yet?
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>>173051430
About 4 scrap
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>>173048894
husbando get
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How long until valve adds a new item type, called "Spectatular" or something, which is neon blue, and has both particle effect, sheen, and tracks progress?
Will probably even have some trail at the feet
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>>173049619
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>>173051645
Considering that Valve forgot Australiums existed, it wouldn't be too far off
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>>173050941
Wearing dead currency

>>173051261
It's like 11 or something. I've got the image saved on my PC, but not mobile

>>173051497
No one wants to buy for full price and in pure
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i got a new hat for my black man
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>>173053972
Its bad
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>>173048648
You can exhaust it if you stick to team colored background;red rocks, brown pillars, gray hue facility walls, containers, shacks, barrels, boxes. Even the daytime sky if you can stay on top of things at the open. Switch between red/blu Scout disguises. Crouch walk if people are too close.
Fake your movement when you flicker, intentionally taking fall damage by jumping off from a high floor can confuse players if you position afterwards well enough. Once cloaked crouching at stairs or after foes take a shot at you would be enough to ditch them.
I use Spycicle and Red Tape Recorder with Enforcer or Diamondback. Kunai is good too, but requires a chainstab and constant feeding.

>>173048753
>design a secondary for Engineer
A body armor that activates when hauling a building and uses metal as its source to mitigate damage. Long live ninjaneering.
May be passively increases explosive resistance too but dunno about numbers.

>>173049065
>Any good tips for playing soldier well?
Look for "rollout" videos to grasp how to reach the mid faster. Educate yourself on projectile pathing for long range RL accuracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWoA6B9VfQ
>However I am dumbfounded at how chaotic the frontline is
When you push forward ofcourse your reloads will be a problem and your Medic will be swept away from you.
>Default/Cow mangler 5000
Stick to stock RL. For Cow mangler I suggest Buff Banner.
>The Conchoror(?)
It's "Concheror".
If you gonna be a support with a banner, stand around the pockets (Medic with Demo, Heavy or a Soldier) and sweep Spy for them, or grab a Shotgun and become a pocket yourself. If you wanna be a roamer you can do that too with Gunboats or any banner.
>Default/diciplinary action
It's "Disciplinary"
Most of Soldiers grab Escape Plan regardless of their notion, after a while you may find it really handy to rush Medikits.
Still DA is not a bad choice if you gonna help pockets to rush front faster.
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>>173054081
oh

i really like it
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I have mentally made the stock shotgun my waifu
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>>173054265
what a slut
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>>173048894
>>173051564
Yo wtf does that even count, you didn't even say anything to draw
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>>173053972
be careful that that fire doesn't light the dynamite fuse, looks pretty close
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>>173054382
Ok then, draw this
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>>173054603
But it's shit though ;^(
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>>173054814
Well I rolled a 4 ;)
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>>173054265
That's nice

I'm physically and literally living a good, non-degenerate, normie life
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>>173053972
Circling flame is best effect don't listen to the haters
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http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html
http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html
http://tf2r.com/ksk9lpc.html

ANOTHER REMINDER
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Wanderer here.

I wasn't gonna draw anything. I just wanted to be a husbando since you fucks are talking about waifus.
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>>173055154
whoa
This could be the beginning of my Collector's Wrap Assassin ;)
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http://tf2r.com/k80bn52.html
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>>173048753
>design a secondary for Engineer that is both viable and wouldn't be banned in a comp scenario

The San Anton' Special

+Does (whatever)% more damage
+Does minicrits on targets recently damaged by your sentry
+Enemies killed drop double metal

-Only 6 shots
-(whatever)% less secondary ammo
-Longer reload
-Slower firing speed

For punishing fags taking pot-shots at your sentry. Pairs well with minis too.
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>>173056930
Why not just use the widowmaker?
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>>173057050
>Widowmaker
>Secondary

Plus I want something to aid me in the quest for FRAGS when I use a a primary that's bad at KILL like the Rescue Ranger.
>>
Nothing wrong with being nigger, though.
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>>173048753
>design a secondary for Engineer that is both viable and wouldn't be banned in a comp scenario

The Manifest Destiny
- Passive and Unselectable
* Replaces dispenser with an unupgradable mini dispenser. It is constructed twice as fast and provides no metal. Heals at the rate of a level 2 dispenser. Costs 100 Metal.
+ Passively regenerate 3 metal every second

Specific numbers will be tweaked ofc
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>>173057396
>>173056930
These are both good.
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>>173057396
>starving your team of metal
its for the same breed of engineer who uses the mini-sentry
useless
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>>173057614
He might mean metal for engineers.
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>>173057675
Yeah. No metal, but still ammo.
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>>173057809
>>173057675
>does everything a normal dispenser can do
>except for a little bit of healing and no self-metal
>and builds a near-instant level 2 dispenser
>for 100 metal
"wouldn't be banned in a comp scenario"
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>there are people in this thread who auto-sort their backpacks
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>>173058364
I'm too lazy to manually sort shit though
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>>173058582
>not sorting by class, weapon slot and hat slot
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I sort my inventory by date.
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on a related note
>people who don't use item quality borders
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>>173048894
last week i got banned for a day from /v/ for responding to a post like this dude
>>
I want /v/ to lea/v/e.
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>play soldier
>suck compared to top players but can do well simply understanding some FPS fundamentals
>play spy
>always get an even KD because I'm too eager to reveal myself and go for a double+ backstab feed

how do I get good?
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>>173059742
soldier is about height advantage and shooting at the floor
never play spy, it's a trap for people who want to be epic ninjas
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>>173058690
>having 20 items total
>having enough backpack space to do that
auto-sort is for the rich
manual-sort is for the poor
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yo how do i get my HP and armor on the HUD to display bigger and toward the middle of the screen like i see in screenshots on here

also how do i make the graphics remain pretty while removing a lot of the distracting effects/cruft
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>join game
>its nearly over and my team is losing
>lose in 30 seconds
>search
>join game
>its the same server
>search but now having that map de-selected
>join game
>its over and now switching to a map I dont want to play
>give up and don't play tf2
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>>173059869
this my man.
Poor people who have so few items they can sort them with so much open space should not try and educate others.
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>>173059867
Yea I'm having an easy time with soldier simply from rocket jumping to certain heights/spots and raining fire down on the other team. I usually fire shots to the left/right of a target depending on where I think they'll try to exit/escape to and it works out well. And I usually keep myself in a spot where I can RJ away unscathed.

Spy does seem like a meme so when I want to be an annoying kid I'll try to set up sentries with the engineer.
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>>173059869
>poor
it takes like 30 minutes at most to manually sort, but it looks better and you know where everything is
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>>173059869
>>173060005
I only needed room for one of each unique item, so if the situation occurs, I can switch to an item I need
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>>173060257
Also this.
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>>173059742
I was always a spy main, but I gave up after roughly a decade. I played spy from when the game launched when I was 12.

My conclusion: Spy is absolute shit versus a team that's even vaguely competent. Even the team doesn't need to be competent. If there's a team full of F2P retards, if there's even one Pyro/Sniper/Medic that decides to get tunnel vision and bulldog you, your day is fucked. Spy is based on 2 things: luck and enemy stupidity.

Backstabs are also retarded.

Sniper: See head, shoot head
Demoman: See man, pipe
Soldier: See man, rocket
Scout: See man, meatshot
Spy: See man, get really close to him, hope he doesn't turn around and his team doesn't manage to get to you right before or right after getting to him.

Spy is the only class that gets shit on due to luck alone. F2P heavy decides to do a 180 for no reason, mid firefight with a soldier? Dead. Pyro just starts hopping around flaming everything like a sperg? Dead.

If you insist on playing spy, go Ambassador/Dead Ringer and go for headshots. It's the most skill-based way to play spy.

Now I just play Soldier/Medic/Engi.
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>>173059894
Here oberbab
http://huds.tf/forum/showthread.php?tid=276
This one's good but browse the site for one you like.
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>>173060005
>he can't afford backpack expanders

LMAOing at you're life
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>>173060257
>spending 30 minutes sorting fucking tf2 items
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>>173060005
I have entire pages dedicated to each class's arsenal but there's so much shit that I have to break my sorting structure just to make them fit neatly. Then there are hundreds of unsorted shit that's just kinda there. And even an entire page dedicated to my self made. Not everyone has baby-sized backpack capacity
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>>173060814
makes it easier to find stuff
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>>173060814
>having a tf2 inventory
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is the cow mangler 5000 actually good?
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>>173060969
yeah
it's stock with infinite ammo and a charge shot, just switch back to stock if there's engineers
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>tfw get a midair double donk on a scout
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>>173060257
><100 keys of worth
>rich
o thats funny
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>>173061501
>implicating
maybe not ultra super rich, but definitely of value
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>>173061120
>>173060969
>Kritz Medic
>Uber ready
>Enemy team incoming
>Only one on my team is left with me on the frontline
>Its a soldier
>We have the perfect position to wipe out the entire team with the uber
>the fucking cuck is using the cow mangler
>have to bhop away and let him die to keep my uber instead of dying a fruitless death with him
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>>173059742
don't play spy
don't be pic related
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>>173061916
>tfw $17
>tfw poor and irish
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>>173061501
>having a bp worth over >$100
w h y
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wait bp stands for boypussy right? id say mines at least $20
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>>173062734
mines -$5
as in id give you 5 bucks
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>>173014261
>>173013924
Thank you for the advice anons, I have been playing on and off for years and only last year started it back up. Im more accustomed to projectile classes after all.
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>>173060571
>backstabs instakill
>random melee crits kill 7 of the 9 classes in one hit
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>>173062827
deal
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>>173032959
>>173033203
t. bad
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>>173059742
Good and aware players will listen for footsteps and decloaking noises. They may even look busy with something even knowing a Spy is around them by staying stable at one spot.
If you can't distance yourself to a safe spot or your target is on the move and in combat curtain your decloak with loud gunfire noise from environment. Try to time decloaks with RL shots, pill explosions, Sentry or Minigun fire.
When you manage to decloak at some safe spot, approach the standing target by walking and revolver drawn at first. If you keep it too long you'll get noticed by team, if you rush your target will engage and you have to shoot a few.
Seek height advantage, you can even step on teleporters, railings or steer away from first steps of a stairpath to gain enough height to jumpstab someone.
Jumping on top of objects like signs or posts gives you a proficient skill on juking and outwitting opponents. When using IW, you'll juke alot.
CnD (wallcreep) and DR (sanic to metal bits and packs) have different game styles but they depend on jukes too.
At worst, you can live happy with divebombing pockets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh5Fg5d_uBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnA65GybCIo
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>>173051261
>>173051950
Heck, I thought it was a picture with every Collector weapon

It ain't
>>
Who is the best player that regularly visits /tf2g/?
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>>173062204
someone missed out on the kike days of this game
could get 3 crate 30's a day by hanging out on idle servers and offering a machina to people
i'd give anything to revert the trade hold bullshit.
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how can i turn off cosmetics
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>>173063357
Pelt/Pamphlet, Saturn, Pinto
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>>173063346
fuck off viva nobody cares about your e-peen
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>>173063381
actually im wondering why anyone with a backpack over $100 hasnt cashed out already lmao
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delete this
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>>172951434
So where can I play some competitive if TF2pickups is close?
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>Still complaining about DR
Stop being bad and shoot the nigger.
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>>173063357
me
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>>173049481
>can aim crossbow heals consistently
>pretty agressive and plays close to you so he can possibly get a kill off of someone you crushed
>>
is viva to /tf2g/ what montie is to /mu/
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>>173063690
pugchamp is the new tf2pickups
tf2center still exists
faceit is an option now as well
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>>173064023
tnx buddy!
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>>173063453
>>173063816
literally who
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>>173063656
>dead ringer now drains charge when it's held out
>going lower than half charge will require going back up to full before you can attempt another feign
>uncloaking at any time drains all charge
fixed

>>173063764
I love ineffectively shooting the same obvious spy every 10 seconds
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>>173063527
already did it once, got about 800 out of it.
not really worth it since a couple of weeks of minimum wage is about that much.
>>
triggering dead ringer should still award full points to the enemy

that way even if DR spies are annoying they're LITERALLY feeding the enemy team
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>>173064690
>Giving away even more free points for doing basically nothing
As if spies and snipers getting free points wasn't already bad enough.
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>>173064864
yeah thats the point it might discourage em
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>>173064690
it already counts towards killstreaks
plus what would extra points do besides make the enemy look better than they are
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post potted plants
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>>173064698

>>173064698
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>>173065102
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>>173065158
>10 posts early
>op for ants
>bad image

Die
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>>173063265
Oh and addendum.
Learn to act in disguise, if you can fool a Medic to heal you that's a big plus to enter a revolver fight lateron. Other than that use voice chats to act like a teammate or lure them onto you. Acting like a Medic in distress, a jumpy Scout, a slowass Soldier, a reloading Demoman or a Heavy who needs healing may come handy.
Yes, learn to mimic reloading on your disguise too.

>>173064272
Nice fix. Draining all charge is a bit harsh, but still okay.
>I love ineffectively shooting the same obvious spy every 10 seconds
Make sure he's airborne the moment you trigger his feign, so he loses 1-2 seconds to get on track or tag him (liquids or F'oW) for Pyros to burn him. If your team is retarded there's hardly anything you can do.
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>>173065237
sorry but i dont want to look at boobie pyros every day for another week
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>>173065309
Cuck
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>>173065309
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>>173065102
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>Get Nier
>Keep playing TF2
>Get The Evil Within
>Keep playing TF2
>Steelbook copy of Persona 5 gets delivered
>Keep playing TF2

What went wrong?
>>
>>173067007
>What went wrong?
paying for single-player games
>>
lets make up some achievements

I'm the boss here
>Dominate someone who is on a 10+ killstreak

Intuition
>Kill an invisible spy who is not under any debuffs with a direct hit from a projectile

You're like a little bunny!
>Kill a revved-up fully healed heavy with nothing but the bottle

Sharing is caring
>Toss a sandvich to a burning medic

A chain of unforseen events
>Kill a spy who killed a spy who killed a spy who killed a spy

A slight annoyance
>Fail to sap a building 5 times in one life
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>>173070368
Ivy League
>Kill a medic with full uber from far away, using the crossbow.

Airforce Doctor
>Kill 10 rocketjumping soldiers with the crossbow
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>>173071916
BRRRAAAAAAAAP
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Why aren't you on #tf2g yet?
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witnessed
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LAST POST
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No.
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>>173073526
I got banned two years ago after 10 minutes because I had 420 in my name and gave advice on crosshair placement and different aiming patterns
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>>173073526
I joined before, but I dunno how irc works and I didnt bother taking the time to learn because I had other things to do. I basically just lurked for 15 minutes then left. Lemme know when it moves to Discord.
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>>173073526
my irccloud subscription ran out so I can't stay connected forever anymore without putting in effort
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ded as fuck lmao
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>>173081418
>>173064698
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