/twg/ - Total War General

Races Confirmed To Have Navels:
Slann

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nth for united /twg/

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>tfw no mod which replaces intro with voice of Galadriel wanabee to original guy from the cinematic.

Any mod recommendations for Rome 2? Screw the Empire: Total War (unless you recommend any mods for it too), i can't get into it and my bro keep playing Rome 2 lately and made me want to play it too.

Skaven where

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I hope the elves have phalanx formation

>>172924584
Good post

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S K I N K S

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BATTLEFIELD BOMBARDMENT REFERS TO CHARACTER SUMMONED WEATHER EFFECTS, CALLING IT NOW.

KISLEV SOON IN THAT CASE

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>>172924496
Rollan!

Working on the new rolling chart, still not sure how to do it. Maybe gonna post a few mock-ups

>>172924985
MSpaint some portraits

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>>172924584
this tbqh

>>172924985
Have fun keeping everyone outta your forest

>>172924726
I hope so too, but if high elves get phalanxes and both high elves and dark elves get strong new magic while wood elves still can't even shoot through trees, there'll be a huge powergap for elves, which would be a shame

Hopefully if they rework magic to be more powerful the changes reach the previous factions too

>>172924824
>map

I hope the Helves being on an island doesn't mess with the AI too much. It would suck if they never expanded because their primary production base is there or they never have to worry about being conquered because no one sends proper stacks to take them.

>>172924985
>>172925104
Please stop making movies while you're at it.

Rome 2, Attila and Warhammer had severely less interesting maps than Shogun 2 and everything before

I can't wait for another 70 relatively flat, uninteresting pancakes with no features whatsoever

I mean in shogun 2 you could put archers behind at the bottom of a cliff and shoot uphill and they'd basically be invulnerable

>>172925157
>Please stop making movies while you're at it.
w-what?

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>>172925173
>tfw trying to find a map with even terrain without a forest all over it in warhammer
Where do you even find plane maps in WH as Empire?

>>172925287

To be fair, the Empire is quite forest-y

>tfw you use an archer heavy army as wood elves and get that one Athel Loren map that is literally 99.99% covered in trees

>>172925283
>85

Just because you cover yourself up in leaves and half a furry suit doesn't mean we don't see it is you Mel Gibson. You're movies are overrated bud. Stick to being a forest ranger.

>>172925157
>I hope the Helves being on an island doesn't mess with the AI too much. It would suck if they never expanded because their primary production base is there or they never have to worry about being conquered because no one sends proper stacks to take them.

Crooked Moon Mutinous Gits constantly sends few stacks at you through half of the map when you are playing as Skarsnik or Belegar. I wouldn't worry about factions attacking Ulthuan unless there is some sort of attrition which completely fucks over AI like in Athel Loren.

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Use these mods.

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Are histmemers actually retarded?
>Trilogy of Total Warhammer games known since 2012
>10 historical TW games to play
>Histfags whine and complain Rome 2 and Atilla into the ground
>Sales for Total War plummet
>CA announces historical project that is in development
>Still not satisfied
>Literally announce future of Total Warhammer to be revealed at EGX
>Dinosaur sounds over rainforest with fantasy pyramid
>Autists literally think another Medieval 3

Why're these fucks so entitled? They have no obligation to make whatever game you want. Don't like it? Fuck off.

>>172925507
Nah, it actually makes sense in athel loren

>>172925518
>>Autists literally think another Medieval 3
Or China
Or Victoria
Or fucking Sea People I dunno

Histfags are beyond retarded.

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If I'm good at a Total War game, what should I be doing? How fast should I be conquering things? Should I even care?

I feel like I must suck because I rarely ever conquer a large part of the campaign map in any game, or even win the victory conditions, and it seems like everyone else will conquer huge empires or even take the whole map within the time limit.

>>172925509
Which should i use for Rome 2 and Empire?

Is this AI Campaign Balance so good? I am using Better AI Recruitment and Army Composition but i used it for so long that i even forgot how vanilla looked like.

>>172925978
Is there a time limit?

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Whes is the old friend coming up?

>>172926174
I think he means the turn limit in the titles before Warhammer

>>172925978
It all depends on what you want to do. I rarely consider the victory conditions in my games. I just enjoy roleplaying the faction (fantasy or historical) I'm playing as and doing things as I believe they would as diplomatic situations develop throughout the campaign. If you want to conquer more of the map then you just have to be more aggressive. Always at war or preparing to attack someone as soon as you have the army for it. You shouldn't have more than a few turns of peace in between wars.

Skill in TW has more to do with the battle map than the world map. Not to say it doesn't take skill to paint the map with your faction color, but most folks consider battle tactics and micro a better measurement of skill inTW.

>>172926513

tomorrow

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>>172902189
>-Cool monster units won't be in the game because something something Charlemagne art budget (this is going to hurt the most when Daemons of Chaos is playable)
This is why Chaos Daemons are getting the sole attention of the 3rd full release, so they get an entire games worth of animation & modelling budget.

>>172926867
is that an anteater

>>172924496
Daily reminder Warhammer III is Total War; End times and the Warhammer sequel is Total War; Age of Sigmar

Just got my new PC, which total war game should I play for the first time

>Rome 2
>Attila
>Shogun 2
>Napoleon

Ain't got warhammer so thats out for now

>>172927258

Shogun 2

>>172924985
>Working on the new rolling chart, still not sure how to do it. Maybe gonna post a few mock-ups
Make an image that has both separate campaigns on it each with their own 00 to 99.
Even third number = Old World. Uneven third number = New World.

Then make an image for the new mega campaign

>>172927258
Napoleon, then Rome, then Shogun 2, then Attila

Thats in order of their quality, worst to best

Fucking come at me /twg/

>>172927437
*comes at you*

>>172927258

Shogun 2. Best one, in my opinion.

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Rock the boat!

>>172927437

>Rome over Attila

>>172927461
Funnest != Best

>>172927190
Age of Sigmar would flop hard because it is extremely far from history and the sort of geo-political game map we've had so far, so it is cancerous to historyfags as well as the old guard fantasy fags who won't touch anything with the Age of Smegma label

>>172927354
Was thinking about that too, luckily I still got a lot of time expecting 6 months for the game to come out

>>172925978
What's the dynamic of your wars? Usually you beat the enemy stacks in the field or one bug seige battle, then steamroll his cities in quick succession before he can rebuild his armies. If you're giving him time to rebuild his armies then you'll prolong your game.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, it's probably more fun to keep an enemy alive and have large-scale regular field battles than to powergame and turboannex all his settlements in seige battles against mediocre garrisons.

>>172927515

Why not?

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Thaggoraki? More like FAGgoraki!

Queek Headtaker? More like QUEER HeadGIVER!

>>172927258
1. Shogun 2
2. Attila
3. Napoleon
4. Rome II

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>>172926867

does chaos wastes look something like this from the space?

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>>172927774
>implying BeleGAY Nohammer would stand a chance against Queek or BASED SKARSNIK

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>>172927774

>QUEER HeadGIVER

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>oh no my nation is starving and my armies are suffering attrition!
>put army out to sea
>no longer suffering attrition
call me fucking hannibal niggas

>>172928112
>Sea People intensifies

>keep Legendary Lords as they are
>allow generic lords to be customized in interesting ways so you can Create Your Own Legend

>>172928418
>CA
>fun
Pick one.

>>172928464
I pick fun!

>>172928418

Only for the small price of 29.99$

>>172928418

This was basically the best part of the Tabletop.

>Read epic dudes backstories and pick one or make your own from scratch.

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>>172927782
They're warp gates

>>172928831
so yes?

CA will never do that much for their questbattle than this lone autist for his mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4QjE71vN2I

>>172927326
>>172927461
>>172927781
Well, looks like Shogun 2 it is.
Any advice? last total war game I played was medieval 2

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>>172927098
Convergent evolution. Anteaters evolved long mouths and prehensile tongues to burrow deep into ant mounds. Slaanesh evolved Steeds to burrow into a different type of mound.

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>>172929091
so tell me how all the human kind is not under the influence of slaanesh with all the fap mateial we have thanks to internet

>>172929035
Plan out what you want to build in each town.
Ashigaru are great.
I dunno, been a while since I played shogun 2.

>>172929221

Because 2016 showed that we're under the domain of the warp entity known as Kek.

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>>172928936
Needs rotation. They're whirling maelstroms.

>>172929035

When you have 20 provinces, the Realm Divide will happen and everyone, even your allies and vassals, will turn on you. Be prepared for that.

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>>172925509

>>172929221

Not to mention all the other degenerate shit like piss fetishs and the like.

Slaanesh is the absolute rule of pleasue in every form, you will probably fuck and be fucked by every single thing in his/her/its domain and even things outside of it, we're talking about taking dragon ogre dicks even if it won't fit, enjoying the entire course of action of your entire ass being riped wide open and probably in half.

Slaanesh is scary shit when you look into it deeply.

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>playing bretonnia
>finally unite everybody, marienburg and red duke removed
>start scouting the world
>everybody is at war with everyone else
>even the fucking dwarfs are fighting 7 different factions
>chaos is just mopping all the half-dead resistance up

By the fucking lady.

>>172929221
Not everyone faps 5 times every day, one time is more than enough
And not everyone is a degenerate that gets off to the nastiest shit

>>172929406
grow a fucking pair of balls and be the shield of the humanity.

>>172929398
>thinks piss fetish is degenerate
Ahahaha, little babby

>>172929221
The Fall of the Eldar narrative was actually written by a Christian polemicist as a warning against modern man.

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What the fug, enemy army just attacked me in Empire: Total War without vastly superior stack. Feels weird after Warhammer.
>>172929221
Humand kind is under influence of slaanesh, tho

>>172929515
It is.

>>172929406
>Dawi
>Very hard
>Win Badlansbowl by turn 70
>Go north
>Become the shield
>Clear some Varg and Chaos
>Clear more Chaos
>And a bit more
>Clear Archeon and Bird
>Everything else is still a shitshow, Norse cunts at Altdorf, two turns into age of peace everyone is at war

I don't know why I even bother... If these cunts could at least repopulate the demolished cities and provinces before starting to fight against each other while Norse cunts just clear them...

>>172929398
Doesn't Slaanesh also cover stuff other than fetishes? Like the artist who cuts up people to make sculptures, or the person so obsessed with their paintings they don't eat for two weeks at a time, or someone who makes music out of people screaming. Or I guess that the person who eats the entire buffet would also fit under that same category.
>>172929221
I would think that a society based around consumption and disposable things in general would be slannesh aligned, so very much so.
I'm no real warhammer lore person though.

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>>172929029
What the fuck is this

>>172929398
So pretty much this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU

>>172929737

Your correct slaanesh does, pleasure in all forms, but usually to the extreme to the point where it may not even make sense, see noise marines for example in 40k. They have weapons that are intolerable volumes and tones that for some reason they enjoy. The entire concept is pretty fucked up. Things like drugs too are also covered by him.It's all about the kill with the gods, just as it is decay for nurgle it's pleasure for slaanesh, putting a blade into your victim and healing them at the same time just so they can enjoy the pain. Sure you'll live longer than against someone like khorne but you will "enjoy" it. Or at least the guy bringing the pain will...

If memory serves slaanesh has this 5 room castle sort of thing in the warp, one room is things like wine and food, another sex, another art and so on so forth.

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>>172929512
Fuck the other humans.

Estalia, my """""""""ally"""""""""" who I had to save from Khazrack Bullballs has been declaring war randomly on everyone from Tilea, the Empire (who they helped cripple so they could get goblin/vampire tagteamed). Tilia has been fighting the Welfs. The Border Princes are the ones who declared war on the fucking Dwarfs, let them burn. Kislev genocided most of the Empire in the early game before getting pumped full of Norscan jizz.

Oh yeah, and Ostermark allied up with fucking Mannfred ASAP and was rewarded for their loyalty by being second on the plate for Archaon.

I think all but 2 provinces had the "fuck the empire" trait, and it showed. Hell, I wouldn't even mind helping out the last remaining Empire province, Hochland, if they weren't ALSO at war with the FUCKING DWARFS.

These not-German fucks do not deserve the warm bosom of the Lady's protection. At this point I'm more isolationist than Orion.

>>172929813

Very much yes, except the no drugs rule would not exist. Drugs are a big part of it.

>>172929813

I'm surprised they prefer to not use condoms, especially with that guy saying he has all those diseases that they don't know what it is.

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What to do now? I pretty much won the whole game.

>>172930054
Wait for warhams 2 or mod like fug.

>>172930106
But i want to play warhammerr

>>172930054
Mods time
Play mods
Make mods

A bit confused, what kind of AoE buff does the grail reliquae give?

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>>172929764

>>172930228
Morale

>>172930253

That's all? Seems kind of weak. Unit description says it has a magical aura and does magical damage too.

>>172930305
>Seems kind of weak

The main weakness of peasants is their morale. They can easily be worth their cost if they're not running away after getting sneezed on.

>>172930054
http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-warhammer-beginning-of-the-end-times

>>172930305
>kind of weak

It's arguably the strongest buff in the entire game.

>>172930054

Play another video game.

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If I want to play some vikings, what Total War should I play for the best experience?

>>172926867
>something something Charlemagne art budget

wot?

>>172930574

Warhammer as Chaos probably

>>172930574
Atilla/Age of Charlemagne. Has actual Vikings plus mixed sea/land battles.

>>172930574
Attila AoC as Kingdom of the Danes.

>>172929372
>Less visual effects

Oh boy I can't wait to try this one

>>172930574

Attila Age of Charlemagne with/without the Age of Vikings mod

>>172930656
>>172930667
>>172930641

thanks senpaitachi

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>>172930054
Start a new campaign and declare war on every faction immediately. No public order buildings either while you're at it.

will CA modify the GRAND HUGE ASS campaign map to put some skaven stuff in old world and stuff like that?

>>172930771
Skavenblight is that currently inaccessible area between Estalia and Tilea, that will at least be one Skaven starting area.

>>172930680
Less of those magical buff thingies

So what the fuck happenings in the Southlands that's worthwhile? I thought that was Tomb Kangz territory

>>172930953
it is

also orcs, and sand alladins

>>172930305
It makes them immune to Psychology too, like big monsters scaring them

>>172930574
Attila. Age of Charlemagne would be best for actual Danes, but the base game also has Viking Precursor DLC. All about men with axes raping and pillaging their way to the four corners of the known world.

>>172930052
Watch the full doco the clip is from, it's the norm amongst gays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN4w8e432_o

How come no one talks about Hippogryph Knights? Are they not that good, or what?

>>172931108

Speaking of which, are the Beastmen fun to play for raping and pillaging? Think I might pick up the DLC on sale.

>>172931187
They are. They have one of the best campaigns in the entire game. The first half is super tense revolving around ambush tactics to raid and pillage just enough to survive, whilst the second half is a tide of Chaos sweeping over the realms of man.

>>172931129

They used to be a meme, but not so much anymore.

>>172930953
>southlands

Top half is Araby and Tomb Kings. Bottom half is Lizardmen. Greenskins are scattered across the entire continent, as it's their place of origin. There are also primitive human tribes, Skaven outposts, and a High Elf fortress at the southern tip of the continent.

New Thera submode is coming out soon
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?750978-Thera-Submod-is-coming!

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>>172929302

I suppose if chaos can produce benevolent gods, as otherwise our slann friends will take umbrage to your suggestion that a god in their likeness is a servant of chaos.

>Mod that makes rolling for the winds of magic give you a major boost as lizardfolk if you get 11 or 22.

>>172931486

I didn't call Kek a servant of chaos, I called Kek an entity of the warp, like Mork + Gork

>>172931486
What are Kek's benevolent dominions?

>>172931909
>the concept of chaos itself
>the concept of good

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Quick Rundown on them:
>High Elves Bow to Chaos Dwarfs
>In contact with Old Ones
>Rumored to possess warp like abilities
>Control the dark lands with an iron fist
>Own ziggurats and dark factories all over the world
>Direct descendants of the ancient Hashut bloodline
>Will bankroll the first cities on Morrslieb (Hashutdangrad will be the first city)
>In the process of terraforming Mannslieb as their personal moon city
>Own basically every Orc DNA editing research facility in the Old World
>First designer babies will be Bull-Centaur babies
>Every dwarf is said to have 400+ IQ
>Ancient Nehekarhan scriptures tell of a race of demi-gods who will descend upon the Old World and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Chaos Dwarfs
>They have Zhaggbot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Zhagdabots inside you right now
>Every child has the mark of Hashut implanted in them at birth
>The Chaos Dwarfs are in regular communication with the Chaos god Hashut, forwarding the word of the Bull god to the Zharr-Naggrund temples
>Discovered the Sword of Khaine
>They learned fluent Brettonian in under a week
>Caledor Dragontamer allows them full access to Ulthuan
>Dwarf clans entrust their Gromril reserves with the Chaos Dwarfs. There is no gromril in Karak-a-Karak, only Zharr-Naggrund
>The race is 67000 years old, from the space time reference point of the base elf
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing at all points of time, from the arrival of the old ones to the end times
>They have been able to access the chaos record since birth, and have spoken about what they saw while they were newborns
>The chaos dwarfs will guide the old world into a new age of chaos, technology and Hobgoblins

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>172932363
I can get behind this.

>>172932363
I really want to see them because i never saw in them in the tabletop.

Last Total War game I played for more than 100 hours was Shogun 2. I hate how in modern Total War games you can't fully develop every single province but instead have to pick and choose because of food maintenance and all that bullshit. I also hate how you only have a limited amount of armies and you can't just recruit a stack and send it out without a dedicated general figure leading them.

Did newest TW games (WH and Atilla) get rid of this bullshit or is it still a thing?

>>172930578
A Charlemagne is a substantial unit of currency in video game development budgeting.
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/181171/age-of-charlemagne-measurement-system-for-tww

>>172933121
Warhammer is in fact the worst about that bullshit you have listed :D

>>172933230
How many rulers of Karak Eight Peaks does it take to shed the blood of saxon men?

>>172926867
>daemons getting sole attention

Seriously doubt it, people would rather have Ogres and Chaos Dwarfs on release, both of which will require quite a lot of work.

>>172934126
Nobody gives a fuck about Chorfs.

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Damn.
Abbadon is a qt
QT
We done with Warhammer general?

>>172934162
Wrong thread buddy.

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>>172934192
I dont think i got a thread for this but yeah, kinda is.

>>172934162
Wrong thread faggot.

>>172934275
This is why I root for the greenskins.

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>>172934350
If you have a dawi grudge on you and somehow really really help them out, will they forgive it with no settlement?

>>172934513
I think that's how it works.

>>172934554
I assumed they would grudge you regardless
.

So when do you think we'll get more news? We still don't know who the old friend is.

>>172934679
Sometimes, sure, but grudgestriking isn't an exact science. Sometimes they strike out a grudge if they feel that you redeemed yourself, other times they leave it there because why strike out a good grudge?

>>172934761
If you marry a dawi woman is that a groodge?
Do dorfs chase human wenches in taverns?

>>172934761
who are you kidding, Dwarfs are racist xenophobic kikes, they work to undermine all great civilizations and only love gold.

>>172934875
t. Bitchworth.

>>172934874

There was a slayer in the Gotrek novels who had a thing for elves

>>172935037
Wait, which novel was that? I don't remember that. Though I haven't read anything past Zombieslayer.

>>172935097

Beastslayer I believe

>>172935020
>I have no argument so I'll reduce myself to inane insults

>>172935427
t. Runtgit.

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>>172935037
How did he menage to hook up an elf in the first place? Did he stalk them in forest or something and saw them bathe?

>>172928802
Mine were Gargoquaxokibiki the Intemperate, a Slann Lord who had his armies follow the path of the chaos moon hoping to undo the evil it left in its passing. Unfortunately, the moon is a fair bit faster than a nomadic horde of saurus and stegadons, so they're lagging a bit, and his military second Huakroataxa, he who hunts the dead, a saurus Scar Veteran who excels at running down and exterminating enemy mages, particularly vampires and necromancers. His Machuatl burst into flames with his rage, so he could even burn the corpses to cinders.

The army as a whole had three red bars as a unifying symbol, signifying the scar marks on Gargoquaxokibiki's belly after a daemon tried to eviscerate him, and he had to spend millenia at rest recovering. The members of his roving horde receive ritual scars from the skink priests, and paint the scars as a symbol on their shields as an eternal reminder of their hatred of chaos and their desire for revenge.

>>172934964
Same mod as that Empire overhaul?

>>172934513
>Dark marauder has boobs
What did they mean by this?

>>172934761
The way I understand it (aka someone will probably correct me on this) is that if you have a grudge on you then you need to make up for that injustice somehow, doesn't matter if the price is gold, blood or whatever. So if you make yourself useful enough the grudge will be settled

>>172934874
Maybe not grudge but I doubt they would allow it considering how dwarf women are important to their society.
>my penis when I see a girl that is really short but also stacked

>>172935667
says he has a thing for them, not that they hooked up. Elves in warhammer are disgusted by all the other races.

>>172935667
>that pic
Based Incase
He should drop that gay shit, fantasy races are his gem

>>172935843

Half elves actually

>>172935983
Whatever pays the bills

>>172936031
Never used to be any half elves in warhammer whatsoever, it's probably solely in BL wank material.

>>172936031
Are there half elves in Warhammer even?
Arent elves like 100% xenophobic pricks there?
>>172935983
Sure are.
Last chapter isnt even porn, its just plot.

I want daemonettes. The hot kind.

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>>172935667
>>172935843

>Thoughout the series, starting in the book Dragonslayer, Gotrek and Felix are joined by several slayers. The most notable two are mentioned below, the others include a former cowardly Dwarf, a slayer with a hate-boner for the dragon, a Dwarf who's hairless due to Skaven weapons and a lecherous Dwarf (he's so horny he bangs a half-elf chick despite Dwarves usually hating elves) who gets more nooky than even Felix though he's in fewer books.

Havent read the novel but I remember someone mentioning said lecherous Dwarf got into a threesome with a bunch of half-elves

>>172936168
Why Lileath and Gilles Breton had kids then?

>>172934964
Oh wow, someone actually implemented it.

For anyone that doesn't know, every faction in the game at launch had equivalents of the Empire offices in their data tables, but CA only used the system for the Empire.

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>>172933430
How can BeleGAY even compete with superior rat technology?

What's some good ideas for my first date with a Dark Elf?

>>172936245
>gets more nooky than even Felix though he's in fewer books.

I always found it weird that Felix got a reputation for womanising.

He porks like 3 women in the original novels by William King. Somehow all the other writers and the fans were convinced that he was some kind of sexual carnosaur.

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>>172936583
Chain yourself to the fiend then fall off a cliff, Druchii lover

>>172932363
>The chaos dwarfs will guide the old world into a new age of chaos, technology and Hobgoblins
>Hobgoblins.
Made me laugh

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>>172936498
>that feel when you play Bioshock too much
Anyway where are 40k Skaven?

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Stormfiend

>>172936624
How does a dorf even pick a wench.

>>172936724
>Boneripper01.jpg

More like Boneripper 101.

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>>172936724

Fuck me, it's going to be a crime if they don't include the entire Skaven roster. There's just so much good shit.

>inb4 we get 3 different versions of the screaming bell instead.

>>172936724
>Anyway where are 40k Skaven?
Afaik there was a 40k equivalent to Skaven planned but never made.
Had some strange name und looked pretty bad tbqh

>>172936965
We won't have the entire roster on release. Gotta make space for the LL packs.

>>172936624
>Book read primarily by virgin nerds
>surprised a healthy sex life of one of the characters is construed as womanizing and playing

ignorance is bliss.

is there a way to convince rome to make peace as carthage is rome 2? I want a fun lategame enemy

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Playing a Greenskin, I just found out orc can confederate with sheer brute force. Just beat several armies, sack a settlement or 2, then ask for peace treaty + confederation and they're in.
I understand da orcy way now. Diplomacy iz for weak 'umins, tru git krump hiz way ta victory

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>>172936965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7fzSAGdQM

Didnt Dwarves also have some crazy vehicles that didnt make into the game?

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>>172924496
>historical Total War
>have to use actual tactics, like hammer and anvil and combined arms

>fantasy Total War
>LOL I CAST MAGIC MISSILE XDDDD

Face it, this fictional garbage killed Total War

>>172937285

Just shut the fuck up

>>172936724
>Anyway where are 40k Skaven?
GW decided that "Giant bugs from the space between galaxies who devour everything" is better than "Hordes of rats who's goal is exterminate everything"

>>172937285

Why don't you make like dr thraxx and just fuck off and die already.

Who do I pick as my LL, Thorgrim or Grombrindal?

>>172937187
Not in the army books, but they are known to have a few vehicles like airships, tanks and armoured walkers but these are very rare.

>>172937285
>how to spot people who never played the game

I know you're fishing here, but damn, at least try.

>>172937068
Smash their armies and eventually they will give up.

>>172937434
Why doesn't Warhammer Fantasy have an insectoid race?

>>172937607
ask GW.
too late add them now anyways, they killed off Fantasy with AoS

>>172929029
Apart from the underwear bit that was pretty good.

>>172937607
insectoids aren't particularly interesting, its just another flavour of hive creatures and swarms.

How do I Vampire Counts?

I got bitchslapped by every province surrounding me, as the nearest vampire chaps supported eachother and reinforced up to triple my numbers in every fight, by turn fucking 4

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>>172937738
Bugs can be fun but id say Alien and Gigers design nailed the whole thing too much.
I want to watch 40k Starship troopers though.

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>>172937161
based greenskins!

>>172937285
>have to use actual tactics
only ever used it when I was out numbered 6 to 1. for everything else their's Hammer and anvil

>>172937802
Have one full army of zombies and make sure you fight 20vs40 then sacrifice ALL the zombies and you can raze whatever you want from the province afterwards.

>>172937285
>hammer and anvil
>actual tactic
h&a is babby's first ''''''tactic''''''
histfags truly are the worst

>>172937465

Grombrindal for OP as fuck campaign bonuses babby easy mode, Thorgrim for regular old easy mode, Ungrim for not quite as easy but still easy mode.

The true choice is getting King and Warlord and choosing Clan Angrund for easily the most difficult TWW campaign.

>>172937918
I think genestealer cults are more interesting than tyranids from a movie perspective, especially if there's a brood scene.

>>172937738
Insects can be sexy

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>>172937285
Insult Warhammer again and I'll hammer your anvil.

>>172938050
>easily the most difficult TWW campaign.
until you reach turn 10-15 where it's easy mode like every other campaign in any tw ever

>>172937285
>6 replies in less than 15 mins

>>172902189
>-Cool monster units won't be in the game because something something Charlemagne art budget (this is going to hurt the most when Daemons of Chaos is playable)

they've said that at least for the upcoming one that they want to have bigger army rosters.

>>172938109
l-lewd

>>172938072
Its great for bait and switch movie.
>Inquisitors come to investigate Chaos cult
>turns out to be Tyranids
>most of planet taken in a day
>cut off
>cues from Aliens
FUND IT

>>172937285
>Face it, this fictional garbage killed Total War
No, the fanbase killed Total War

>Didn't play WH1
>WH2 a year later

i get trilogy and all that but holy shit, did CA replace their leadership with actual caricatures of jews or something?

>>172938075
GW is not in the business of making sexy models.

>>172937285

Actually I think you'll find that this fictional garbage saved the franchise

Can some one here tell me if kneeling is actually considered a mechanic or if it's just an animation thing? Cause besides aesthetics I don't see why people foam at the moth at it not being in a game.

>>172938305
Warhams 1 has more content than like the last three historical titles combined.

>>172938305
Do you really want the TWW trilogy to get released over 10 years without any graphical updates?
It's not really a new game but something like a standalone expansion!

>>172937161

making any sort of peace with anyone instead of exterminating them is the apex of greenskin dimplomacy

>>172938305
>Shogun 2 released 15 march 2011
>Fall of the Samurai announced 28 november 2011
>Rome 2 released 3 September 2013
>Attila announced late september 2014

>>172936254
Office for GS please

Is there ever any reason to take a necromancer over a lore of vampires wizard in the campaign?

>>172938842
Those are historical titles though, so it's okay.

>>172938305
Release warhams 2 and call it new world expansion. Bitching reduced by 60%... well i don really get ehy they call it warhammer 2 either

>>172938842
Last time i check expansion didn't cost fuck $60

>>172938454
it's considered a mechanic because it determines how you have to set out riflemen.

If riflemen can only fire from the first 2 ranks with kneeling then they always need to be spread wide.

In TWW they can shoot through their own ranks so they can be used pretty much as xbows/ bows are used without much bother.

Most people would prefer if guns had the kneel mechanic of other games but were made stronger to compensate, this would also be closer to TT.

It just looks more realistic / immersive and makes guns better reflect the flimsy yet powerful way they work.

>>172938454
Well atleast in FotS it was something you had to research and turn on/off

>>172938539
>without any graphical updates?
feel like what we have right now for graphics are fine

>>172939232
Really, if they'd called it Warhammer: Lustrain Boogaloo you wouldn't see nearly the same amount of butthurt.

>>172939361
Neither of those two expansions took place in an entirely new landmass with radically new factions, either.

>>172939232
These typos and i have only drank 1 pint

>>172939361
Source for price?

>>172938454
It's the same reason people are annoyed you can't make spear/ shield walls anymore.

Some people claim spearmen do it naturally now but they obviously don't because they don't walk around in a really tight immobile formation.

Ironbreaker shield walls should also be a thing. They should be among the best siege defence units in the game but without tight formation mechanics it's really easy to break through enemy lines.

Tell me about the Forest Goblins
How do they tame the spiders?

>>172936213
too bad

>>172939673
>How do they tame the spiders?
the spiders tame them, Anon...

>>172939673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_-QLeU6hBw
He talks alot about that.

>>172939365
alright. thanks for clearing that up for me

>In TWW they can shoot through their own ranks so they can be used pretty much as xbows/ bows are used without much bother.

I wouldn't say much bother because you still need to have a direct line of fire.

although didn't they have problems with kneeling in Med 2. Like you couldn't move your guys once they went into the kneeling animation?

>>172939831
Love Arch

>>172939673

The same way many beats are tamed, provide food enough and they'll follow.

>>172939831
What the fuck is wrong with your voice?

>>172930054
Multiplayer quickmatch

TOPPU wo MEZASE

>>172939831
i non-ironically like arch

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>>172939831
Really enjoyed his warhammer II response vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSwcdapw5KY

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>>172939831

>>172940308
I did not

If I start as Vladdy Daddy do I still get that unique building in castle drakenhoff once I recruit Isabella or do I need to start with her to get it?

Also what does that building actually do?

>>172939672
Spear and shield walls have a much greater impact on gameplay than kneeling does. It makes very little difference whether you have you spread your riflemen out or not. Fuck kneeling and spreading out your riflemen, but gimme dose wall formations.

>>172940308
>>172939831

Last warning bud

>>172940308
also
>skaven will be pre-order DLC
what a memer

>>172940546
Why do people not understand that CA is just being cheeky by not openly announcing them?

>>172940331

kot blini

>>172939672
>Some people claim spearmen do it naturally now
I think it could just be a natural buff that they always have on. like something that just buffs their stats. I'm not sure though

>>172940621
presumably they wanted to show off having 1v1v1 battles as well. Still Skaven look more iconic in the old world fighting dwarfs and empire imo. They are only just starting to get close to Ulthuan but rarely ever fight HE and I doubt dark elves ever fight them unless at sea.

>>172929221
>Tattoo

Into the fucking trash

>>172939942
>although didn't they have problems with kneeling in Med 2. Like you couldn't move your guys once they went into the kneeling animation?
Yeah that's kind of the point though.

You have to bring them out of kneeling in order to move them which makes them slower to react to cav.

I would've thought they'd have to tech to just make it automatic when you try and move them by now though.

With kneeling guns become one of the most vulnerable units in the game but also one of the most powerful.

Well... in shogun 2 they were shit actually, and it really disappointing me. I played Ikko Ikki and got gun monks with 92/100 accuracy, which is the most accurate unit you can get in the game pretty much, and they didn't kill shit.

But I think most people would prefer it if guns had the kneel mechanic and were more powerful.

>>172937285
>like hammer and anvil and combined arms
You do realize H&A is a joke on the total lack of depth in TW, right?

No on thinks the fact that every single TW game can be summed up as H&A is a good thing.

How the fuck are you supposed to do the staff of Volan mission? It's full of chosen and chaos knights with 3 golden chevrons, it's fucking impossible.

>>172936724
>Still posting End Times units
Are you people retarded or something

You might as well post LotR units and claim they are coming.

>>172940783
Are 1v1v1 battles confirmed?

>>172940787
where is the """no homo""" ?

>>172924584
Best post.

>>172940509
They should have a huge impact desu.

In TWW charging cav into spearmen isn't the best choice, but in other games it can be a death sentence.

It should still be a death sentence if they're all clumped up in a wall, but there are easy ways to counter it.

Ranged units, arty & magic would all completely demolish clumped up units in spearwalls.

This would also mean you have to go for decent balanced army comps, not like the retards who can get away with bringing a full-cav brettonian army because spears don't really have that much of an impact.

>>172940461
Anyone know? I can't tell if it's the same as other factions where LL only determines your starting units & lord or if they are actually pretty different campaigns.

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Will Queek have long coversations with his trophy rack? Fuck I'm hype for skaven.

>>172929571
Wait, are you just joking around or is this true?

A part of me really wants it to be true.

>>172939831
Oh boy a goblin video, I bet he won't make the jew joke he does every time a goblin appears on screen.

Do norwegians just genetically lack a sense of humor?

remove skaven from the premises

Is Sarthorael the best Chaos lord lads?

>>172941135
>army because spears don't really have that much of an impact.
how many spears do you bring against bretonnia?

> but in other games it can be a death sentence.
not always but I get what you're saying.

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>>172941372
I'm hyped for removing rats and knife ears.

>>172941546
The best missile magnet maybe.

>>172941546
Lore of Metal still sucks ass, I hope CA doesn't fuck up Lore of Tzeentch

>>172940141
Can't tame a beet mate

>>172941516
Suh-kay-ven? Sorry, never heard of him.

>>172941546

No, that would be Kholek

Followed by Archie boy now that his hat gives Immunity to Psychology in an aura.

>>172941579
those lazy fucks

just stand up you fat ass frog

>>172938050
>The true choice is getting King and Warlord and choosing Clan Angrund for easily the most difficult TWW campaign.
How is this true?

I started Angrund and I'm on turn 30 and have just taken Karak 8 Peaks and it's been pretty easy desu.

Ghost dads make diplomacy easy as shit early and they also make battles way easier than any of the other dwarf lords.

Other than ghost dads you only need like 2 warrior units and the rest rangers and you're set.

Also RoR's make the game so much easier.

>>172941135
would this be okay https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=834440120 ?

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>>172941579
>Be giant frog with uninmaginable cosmic power
>get sick
>die

>>172939831
>Caramel dansen
Caught me off guard.

>>172937161
everyone can do this.

In my empire campaign I completely destroyed marienburgs armies and took their city and then confederated with them the next turn in exchange for peace.

>>172940787
For women, the process of being tattooed is very pleasurable

>>172941795
You really think the Slann haven't contemplated whether to stand or sit for at least 200 years? You really think he doesn't have an extremely well-argued reason for why floating around is superior to walking?

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>>172941762
>skaven nearly wipe out the empire in a during the skaven war
>couple centuries later literally no one remembers them

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>>172941870

>realise that some stupid rat fucks are trying to destroy the world
>bring yourself back into existence through sheer force of will and drop atomic bombs on them from your old smelly withered frog ass

>>172936254
I think it'd be better if only VC & emps had it desu.

Greenskins one would probably be hilarious but not make much sense.

Dwarfs are better with just grudges.

>>172942107
What would the Greenskins offices be?

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Just for fun because I'm 90% sure CA won't do this: what would Lizardmen diplomacy look like if they stuck autistically close to their lore?

You can easily trade with other factions for obscene amounts of gold while giving them almost nothing in return. Can't declare war on anyone unless they sack one of your cities or they randomly take something they shouldn't have while raiding. Force into wars of annihilation if a skink finds a random tablet they are 27% sure says some faction shouldn't exist by this year. Permanent war with rats and Chaos (this is pretty cool actually). Missions that will auto fail the game if you don't complete them and are all about dealing with Chaos trying to end the world prematurely. If you reach -10000 relationship with someone you can summon Kroak to nuke them.

Anything else?

>>172941747

I said beat nerd, as in music, god. L2read (I also meant beast obviously, blow me.)

>>172941870
>Be rat.
>Get sacrificed so much a new god is born.

>>172942181

You are randomly issued missions from a book that records past transgressions or wrongdoings committed against Lizardmen.

>>172942275
>book
>not a golden tablet

>>172942167
Boss, 'Ead Krumper, 'Ead Stomper, Gork-Speaker, Mork-Speaker, Lards't Eater

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>>172942181
>If you reach -10000 relationship with someone you can summon Kroak to nuke them.

Guess that makes adding Skaven kinda pointless.

OVER THE ALPS, PERHAPS

>>172942181
Mechanic based around sacrificing enemies.

>>172941852
Well I don't see spear wall in there, or any gun formations, but I might try it out.

I'm sceptical of mods like this because it seems to just make formations mandatory instead of an optional thing with drawbacks & bonuses.

Like why would orcs ever not activate his green-tide formation when it gives such good bonuses to combat?

>>172937931
Wurzzag da one true git of Badlands! Savage Boyz fearsome warriors blessed by Gork!
>>172938782
I got backstabbin' top knoz to da south dat won't zog off with their raidin', Border Princess across da riva and stunties from da stinkin' mountains. Red Fangs still 'as 'alf of Badlands because Grimgor won't get 'is asses out of dat lil' hidey 'ole Black Craig. I will krump dem all but smashin' weak gits wastes my time.

also I will stop with orc speech now, this is more tiring than it should be

Just a reminder skaven will be dlc there is no way CA will stop jewing and not cash in on the popularity of skaven.

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>>172942834

>>172942834
https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/847842652762537984

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>>172942275
wait a sec are u trying to recycle mechanics again

>>172942834
yeah CA just said there were four factions confirmed on launch and strongly hinted in the trailer and with rat-etchings on the title of TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER 2 on the steam page to piss off its fanbase when they turn around and sell the rats to them, the company is actively doing everything it can to mislead people into expecting rats to be included so it can try and turn their frustration, anger and disaffection into sales

They've been collaborating very closely with Games Workshop on business practices

>>172942834
>Just a reminder skaven will be dlc t
are you the ultimate memer Archwarhammer with his trusty side kick Sargon of 'Expansions for Early access games is okay' Akkad?

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BUILD THE WALL

>>172942834
>implying Tomb Kings won't be CA's cash cow

>>172943038
>turn their frustration, anger and disaffection into sales
the ultimate memes for the ultimate memers

>>172943089

>And we're gonna make the umgi pay for it!

>>172943015
>>172943054
I don't say preorder faction. I'm talking they won't be in until after release. Hell I'll put money down on "we didn't finish them on time sorry just buy the dlc you entitled faggots" coming from CA.

>>172943038
They said something about the pre-order bonus being "appropriate". I wonder what they mean by that. I mean, as far as I know CA could think Skaven is an "appropriate" pre-order bonus, but I think something minor like Estalia could be "appropriate".

>>172943119
this makes more sense

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THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE SPOOKY BULLYING

>>172943212
they'll put another race in then? or just release with 3 races? is this the "VC aren't going to be in the game" meme again?

>Hell I'll put money down on "we didn't finish them on time sorry just buy the dlc you entitled faggots" coming from CA.

THE ULTIMATE MEME

>>172942578
>#YOLO
>-Hannibal, ca. 218 BC

>>172943364
Estalia or tomb kangs as fourth fuckboi

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>>172943357

>>172943410
where are we getting these spicy memes?

>>172943607
Butthurt hisfags trying to make people not like what they don't like.

Whats the most OP faction in all TW?

dworfs?
welves?
huns?

>>172943607
>>172943698
There is no way they are going to release a fantasy game without humans in it for the normies. Estalia as fourth and tomb kangs and preorder. Screen cap this if im wrong I'll blow moot

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>>172943480

>>172942834
CA don't want to dlc them, since they have a no dlc for dlc policy. They'll want to do campaign packs for skaven in lustria and eight peaks.

Roster at launch:
>Warlord
>Plague Priest
>Assassin
>Grey Seer
>Skavenslaves
>Clanrats with spears
>Clanrats
>Stormvermin with halberds
>Plague Monks
>Giant Rats
>Rat Ogres
>Poisoned wind mortar/globadiers
>Jezzails
>Doomwheel
>Warpfire Thrower
>Warp Lightning Cannon

Wrath of Sotek pack:
>Plague censer bearers
>Plagueclaw catapult
>Night runners
>Gutter Runners

Eight peaks pack:
>Hell Pit abomination
>Ratling guns
>Doom flayer

>>172943720
Pontus

>>172943162
>silently raids the coffers of his own hold while pretending it belongs to the umgi.

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>>172943801
as you wish.

>>172943801
also from the steam page

>Meanwhile a fourth, secretive race stirs, their motives obscured by sinister plots and machinations. The time for revelation is nigh…

>human soldiers yelling "don't let the zombies bite" as they fight undead
Aren't undead Judy raised by magical means and not virus/biological ways? How come they can spread the influence of undead by biting?

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SO when can we expect Old Friend based on current patterns?

I want to start an Empire campaign right now but don't know if I should wait

>>172944490
Zombies fight mostly by biting, it doesn't spread undead.

>>172944490
>Judy
I meant "just", damn SwiftKey

>>172944490
Aren't the zombies rotting? its probably not good to let rotting people near your wounds.

>>172944490
Magic

>>172944490
It's not so much that you turn into a zombie when they bite, it's that they can make you really, really sick.

Though I guess it's just a fuckup by some shitter who only knows bad zombie movies and has no clue about zombies and undead in WHFB.

How strong exactly is the fanatics ability?

>>172944460
Well, that's obviously Estalia or the Tomb Kangz, right? Well known avatars of secret, sinister machinations.

>>172944490
Getting bitten is about the most horrific wound you can suffer, and in those tiems if you are wounded you are probably going to die of infection in any case.

>>172930574

Medieval viking invasion