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PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUND GENERAL /PUBGG/

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PUBG is a battle royale style game, based on realistic FPS combat. The lead designer is the modder that made ARMA BR and worked on h1z1.

Game site
https://www.playbattlegrounds.com/main.pu

New player guide
http://www.pcgamer.com/battlegrounds-guide/

FPS guide
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=889517165

Dev's twitter
https://twitter.com/battleroyalemod?lang=en

Wiki
http://battlegrounds.gamepedia.com/PLAYERUNKNOWNS_BATTLEGROUNDS_Wiki

Discord server for finding people to play with
https://discord.gg/p73xNDv
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First for UMP buff
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1st for finally a somewhat enjoyable BR game despite all the bugs (for now)
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What is the lore of this game? What is the force field? What is the explanation for countryside homes having various military weapon attachments?
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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What gun do you want to see introduced into the game?
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>>172875142
FN FAL
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>>172874425
I feel like every time I'm uncommonly lucky there's something I just can't find.
>all the stuff = no backpack
>early sks = no scopes
etc.
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china numba won
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Will it run decent on this given current optimization?

4690k
r9 380x
8gb ram
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>>172875342
Turn anti aliasing up to ultra/high
Turn textures on medium
Everything else on ultra low
And you'll run it just fine
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>>172875142
dragunov
some variant of the mp5
some variant of the G3
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>>172875283

>find smg silencer
>no smg
>find rifle silencer
>no rifle
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>>172875142
G36
or an F2000
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>>172875283
>find 3 4x scopes
>kill guy later on and he has an sks
>nice something that could really use these sco-
>he had an 8x scope anyway
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>>172874586
Nth for pistol buffs
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>>172876243
Not a bad thing senpai. Just keep the 4x and you've got a mid-range option.
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>>172876407
My other gun was a UMP and yes I did put a 4x on it.
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>>172875142
FAL or some other 7.62 NATO AR
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>>172875142
I don't necessarily want to see a new gun. I want bullet drop added and the silencers altered. Getting 4x and 8x, especially on snipers, is way too powerful and silencers are basically a guaranteed death sentence for whoever you run up on.
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>>172875142
P90
MP40
Flamethrower
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>>172877014
There is bullet drop, but it isn't working as intended. On the minimap every square represents 1000 meters and you can adjust your sights. Only time you'll notice a bullet drop right now is at extreme ranges like if you were to try and hit someone on the military base island from the main island.
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>pit maneuvers actually work in car chases
Police cars W H E N
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>>172878125
For some reason jeeps have 5 seats.
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>people outsniping you on long distances with AR

I wonder if there is any bullet drop at all in this game. Do people even use the zeroing function?
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>>172878452
They're releasing the game code and allowing people to mod so I guess they just made it with the intention of people doing 5s.
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>>172878726
There is bullet drop, though it's not correct yet. It's not hard to estimate if you have experience from other games though.
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this is the most fun i ever had in the genre since summer 2012 dayz.
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Either fucking remove the bars from windows or fucking allow us to fire through them because it's fucking retarded that someone standing right outside the window can free fire into the building while all my rounds like the bars and act like a wall for him.
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>>172875142
Something that goes p-o-p-p-y
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20th to 10th is an annoyingly hard gap to bridge
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>>172880839
You can't lob grenades through windows either which is annoy8ing
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>find shotgun
>autistically sit and camp the corner of a building for 20 minutes
>get guaranteed top 10 every time, usually looting ARs + meds from shitters who try to loot your building

game is boring as fuck
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>>172875142
We need shit chambered in 45 that isn't a pistol.
The vector comes to mind
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This lag holy shit.
>lagging out next to a guy on a hill
>fire a full mag into him with an akm
>hear one shot ring out from his M4 headshot, ded at #25.
Never experienced lag in this game like that in the 20 hours I've played.
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>see one guy entire game
>second circle closes
>end up stuck in one spot with three or four guys
what the fuck
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EPIC

FUCKING EPIC

I LOVE HOW THERE'S NO FUCKING SOUND TO INDICATE SOMEONE IS OPENING A DOOR BEHIND YOU

I LOVE HOW YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR SOMEONE LITERALLY S P R I N T I N G FIVE FEET FROM YOU

FUCK THIS GAME
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>melee weapons are literally useless
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>>172885848
>gutshot someone with a kar right at the start of the round
>dont want to waste a second bullet on them and have a machete
>run up and start chopping at them
>takes literally a full minute before it managed to connect and kill even with me rubbing against them the entire time
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>>172877493
it absolutely is working as intended
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I just got downed in one hit with the pump shotgun. Wasn't a headshot and had a level 3 vest and he did the same to my partner half a second later. One shot us both.
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>>172883953
are you clairvoyant and knowing of the exact location of the last few circles?
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>>172887109

Shotguns are always lethal if they're close range. ARs are overrated.
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How do I tell my partner to stop being right fucking next to me without making her pms all over me?
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>>172888090
I don't consider the entire length of a house close range when I have a level 3 vest on.
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>>172888303

Get dominated Jack.
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>>172874586
>UMP buff
>UMP outdamages AKM at point blank
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are there coherent patchnotes anywhere? As I understand it we almost get patches daily, but how can I see what exactly has changed?
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these random crashes are infuriating
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>>172889539
It would do so in real life as well.
7.62 will pass cleanly through your body at close ranges causing minor damage compared to what a 9mm will do at that range.
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Third game in a row in which I pumped half a clip into someone, he turned back and just shot me.

10/10 netcode, would get a refund again
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>>172892416
>implying you're not the same butthurt dayz shill who "gets a refund" every ten posts
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I personally would love to see smaller maps. I like the big one, but this game could really benefit from a scarce ammo/small map game type.
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>>172891631
I pass clean through your mum
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>know there's a guy behind a corner
>come at firing straight at him, all shots hitting
>game stutters and I die
ebin
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h1z1 never got a new map right? Any reason to think this one will in time?
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>>172895694
bluehole devs claim a map is being worked on, who knows if it is true though
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>tfw no friends to duo/squad with
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> tfw you realise you know if you'll win, top 10, or be raped just by the RNG of the first circle.
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>>172891631

a bullet delivers more than just a penetration from a missile, ya dingus.
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>>172897397
Energy can only be transferred to a target if the energy is removed from the bullet, this should be obvious. If the bullet penetrates the target and continues flying without expending all its energy, that extra energy hasn't been transferred. That's why over penetration is an issue. Shock is an effect of energy transfer. At close range, 7.62 won't transfer all of it's energy. A 9mm, especially a hollow point, would.
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>>172886803
No it isn't. You can accurately hit someone 2000m+ away without adjusting your sights and aiming square at them.
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>>172898019
take a screenshot of your stats that prove you've hit from 2k meters
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SOMEONE GROUP UP WITH ME I'M TIRED OF GETTING WETBACKS IN 2'S

http://steamcommunity.com/id/felixmans

DO IT
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>>172896534

I honestly prefer solo. As much fun as duo is, it usually turns into a campfest with teams of SKS/Kar98k fags running around dominating the map.
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>>172897654

uh yeah presuming you fire into one of the areas of the body that has no bone or organ.

and assuming the bullet doesn't start to tumble as it's designed to once it enters the body.

and presuming nothing vital is cavitated as the bullet moves through you.

consider a 7.62 has more than double the energy of a 9mm it wouldn't even need to donate its full energy to obliterate you.
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>>172898142
Stats don't show longest hits only longest kills.
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>>172898295
We should have some sort of matchmaking discord or something for the thread

at least post your region if you're asking for duos tho
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>>172898657
ok so you don't have proof ok 100//
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>>172899042
And your proof it's working? Plenty of people actually think there is no bullet drop so please show everyone that it's working as it should be.
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>>172899123
I'm not the one making wild claims against what the development team says.
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>>172899438
Where did the devs say it working?
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>>172899703
Playerunkown said this during a twitch stream last week.
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>>172899703
They've outlined several times how the bullet drop mechanic works and the calculations used for each gun. The only thing not working as planned is scope zeroing, which is a separate piece of code.
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What's the maximum squad size?
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>>172900305
tree fitty
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>>172900305
Four
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>>172898851

Felixmans here, NA region.
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>>172877493
>on the minimap every square represents 1000 meters
wat
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>>172901402
nevermind, i was thinking about the sub tiles
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two times in a row I died because the AKM I had set to full auto was only firing single shots, so I'm standing there like an idiot holding my mouse down while the guy who had his back turned 2 feet away from me turns around after the first shot and mows me down
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>>172901589
I had a UMP inexplicably start firing three round bursts.
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>>172899123
>>172898019
If I shoot at a proned target from 200+m, the bullet will hit the ground in front of him.
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Ah yes, the fabled "battle royale genre" aka the "action for the first 5 minutes then you sit in a building until the play area closes in otherwise you get sniped"

Incredible, truely impeccable work.
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>>172903501
If you don't like it don't play. Fuck off.
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this game is complete trash and it's never leaving early access
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Please include a link to the previous thread next time.
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>>172905638
Ok here it is
>>172874340
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>>172905701

Thanks.
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>>172905784
No worries, nothing is too difficult to increase the efficiency of this subreddit :3
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>>172897654
although wouldn't the equipable armor be able to stop 9mm and not 7.62
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>>172894049
>small urban map filled with melee weapons and handguns, shotguns, & SMGs with limited ammo.
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>>172906758
Level 1 armor maybe, level 2 and 3 yes
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>clutching a squad game with 10 kills after you lost both your teammates back when there were still 70 other people alive
Truly this is the best feel
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>final 3 alive
>lose because the game forces me out of my cover while the last 2 don't have to move
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>1/3rd of the players die in the first 10 minutes
>the rest sit in buildings until forced to move by the play area

This system is fucking awful jesus christ.
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>>172907431
>lose because I am shit and can't plan out future cover for any possible necessary movement

ftfy
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>drop
>get a pistol and ammo
>walk out of building
>guy with scar and level 2 police vest and helmet 2 shots me

:))))))))))))))))
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>>172908234

What alternative do you propose? Trying to be 1337 h4xx0r the badass KDR champ only gets you killed. In games where you only have one life, camping is always the best form of survival.
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>3 left alive
>other two have a shootout
>too noob to react to them fighting
>i end up losing the 1v1

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172909194
Make the circles come in quicker when it's mid game.

Every game I've played there's been a huge segment where no-one dies and there's around 40 players and the circle is still huge
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>>172908234
Will be a non issue when there are hc/fp only servers
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how's the clunkiness in this game compared to something like arma
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>>172910741
Its the same issue. People want to climb leaderboards, they camp. People want to have fun, they land and die instantly in a firefight with 10 other dudes.

How to fix the game
>remove 1-2 buildings per cluster of buildings
>remove all the shacks in the game
>add small stone walls ala Arma 3 maps to prone near
Done. Too many buildings in the game, there tend to be as many buildings as players in most circles especially in the third and fourth circles.

If anyone actually thinks bullet penetration on those shacks will change anything they are retarded. You can't actually shoot without a suppressor, you just get killed by another camper. Even if you know someone is in there how many bullets will you need to spam to get that kill?
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>>172910845
it is very armalike in the clunkiness of movement and menus
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>>172910968
it will resolve the issue as you cannot safely camp in houses while also looking outside. This will nerf camping alot because you won't ever know what's coming for you when you leave your spot.
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>>172910968
you say camping is a problem but then add this suggestion?
>add small stone walls ala Arma 3 maps to prone near
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This game is so much fun too bad my GTX 560 can barely run it.
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>>172898019
this is false
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>>172910968

stone walls everywhere would make camping a thousand times worse, are you retarded
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>>172906243
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>don't see a SINGLE person for 25 minutes
>suddenly surrounded by no less than 6 niggers all focus firing me

this right here is why I'm an atheist
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WHY THE FUCK DOES MY FULL AUTO WEAPON RANDOMLY SWITCH TO SINGLE SHOT MID FIGHT

OH MY FUCKING GOD
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>#2 a gojirrion times

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I GOTTA STOP GETTING JITTERY
I ALWAYS GET FUCKED BY THE LAST FAGGOT CAMPING THE WHOLE TIME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172913945
I get #3 every single fucking time
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>game starts
>grab as many gas cans as I can find and hop in my trusty dacia that nobody ever takes
>ride around the map screaming "GODDAMN NIGGERS TURN DOWN THAT TRASHY HIP HOP"
>potshots nonstop but rarely damages the car
>always get top 10
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>>172874650
You can explain the attachments as being from the initial shipment of cargo they dropped in for the first BR.
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>>172885183
>You can't hear someone sprinting towards you in the open from 3 feet.
>They can hear you sprint for a quarter of a second 20 feet away, with walls separating you.

Only thing that pisses me off about this game.
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> watching some streamer in fullscreen mode
> he dies on the second place
> trying to hit exit to lobby button hard on the screen
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>tfw the cuckshed you hide in from the start of the game manages to be in the final non-kill area
>tfw last person chucks a molotov inside fucking you over
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guys
what if
guys listen
what if you could order supply drops and stuff with points gathered from killing people?
what if you used these supply drops as traps to kill more people
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>>172914010
I always get 4th
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>>172916735
H1z1 shit?
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>>172916735
just play call of duty
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How bad are the servers right now? Some matches all my shots land and other matches I get 5-6 blood shots with a scar on unarmored people and get 180 insta killed through a tiny window? I had to take a break after hitting a guy with no police vest in the chest 3 times with the kar and an another shot from my m16 while he ran in a straight line and he didn't get down. It just feels so hit or miss on shit killing or not killing, is there a way to check your ping or something since I'm constantly getting fucked when I headshot and then light people from behind and they spin around and just kill me and survive.
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is there anything more comfy than finding a nice building to camp in and picking off stragglers with an SKS as they try to outrun the blue death wall
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>>172918447
servers are getting better, the main issue which is being addressed in a patch next week is there being no ping limit for the game so people with slav internet or bolivian farmers can play in your matches just fine right now
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>>172918628
china numba one
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>>172878125
Just tried pitting a buggy with a dacia a while ago and it threw me into outer fucking space. ArmA physics/10
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>>172918628
Thats what it fucking is? I thought that would be a default thing. I got punched to death in full kit and so did my 3 friends by one shirtless man that would literally phase in and out of reality in 3 places at like once and was untouchable and had a brazilian meme name. Fuck that explains so much some games people just drop and others they walk into like half a mag and I get like 5 hitpoints in my score after they kill me. Thank you anon now I'm not as frustrated.
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XD guys did you know in real life that if you single tap guns they just shoot 20 meters off target every time from short range ??? XD realistic battle royal XDDDD XDDD
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>>172919176
they do if you're a limp wristed twink
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>watch guy go into a house next to mine
>circle is closing in
>cant move for the circle because this guy will just shoot me in the back
>wait for him before moving on
>circle is literally taking chunks out of my hp now
>figure i probably just missed him moving out
>decide to move, will probably die to the circle cause i waited too long anyway
>get shot in the fucking back by the same cuck
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>>172919276
lmao
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This looks tempting but 36.99 for early access is a tough pill man. Just spent the last hour trying to get Rust to run.

How is the stability?
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>>172920012
waste of money fotm BR game that is gonna die in a month thanks to garbage servers and hit reg, just like h1z1
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>>172920071
H1Z1 isn't even close to dead and look how the devs abandoned that game.
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>>172920012
watch some how to vids so you dont go in unprepared
buy it
try a couple matches and refund it if you dont like
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>>172920282
Well that's because h1 is better than this garbage.
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>play solo
>loot for a few minutes
>drive to middle of circle and camp for a few minutes
>get pushed around by increasingly smaller circle until someone shoots you in the back
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>>172920459
>he fell for the autist royale meme
lol
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>>172920329
>proving yourself wrong
>spending time shitposting in a game general you don't even play
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>>172920329

its just different, this is way more arma inspired and therefore is more realistic

h1 was arcadey and played as such

if you want more fast run n gun no thinking then h1 is better

if you want slower more methodical & lethal play battlegrounds is better
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>>172920012
??
It was $30 for me and I bought it on Friday.
If your computer is shit don't bother, it's really unoptimized but still fun.
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4th time I've managed to get to #2 and lost because circle forces me out of cover while enemy can autistically potshot me from behind a rock/tree.

Third person needs to be removed.
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>fuck around most of the game in a buggy, occasionally getting shot at and looting the remains of airdrops
>finally the circle is so small I can no longer buggy, go hide out in a house with a shotgun
>eventually die because no scope on any of my rifles
At least I got 7th with my master strategy
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>>172921369
Hardcore mode is a thing that is soon
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>>172921369

ye legit 3rd person needs to go, camera raping is retarded.
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>kill a guy
>had 2 x8, 6 x4, and 7 holo/red dot scopes
>no riles

fuck

I feel bad now because I've been in his exact same position, all the attachments but no primary

I'm sorry bro
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>>172921685
FIRE AT WILL
KILL OR BE KILLED ANON
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100% guaranteed car spawns in those garages should get the fuck out of the game. How lame is it people guarantee them a safe looting/first 6-7 minutes of the game every single time?

>>172920329
>>172920282
If H1Z1 had like, consistent gun additions people would still be all over that game. No attachments needed, no realistic animations. H1Z1 just got stale from the lack of new content.
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>kill a few people at the start, camp on a roof for the rest of the game hoping you're the last to be noticed
>die to some shitskin with 500 ping teleporting around everywhere in the top 3

wow what a good game XD totally not for autists XD
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>>172921685
>Manage to find a level 3 helmet and armor right off the bat with a level 1 backpack at the very start, 1 stun grenade
>No guns though
>fuck there are no guns anywhere just this machete
As the panic slowly set in I encountered someone in a nearby house with scar who pelted me, what are the odds you can't find even a single pistol
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>>172922559
thats what happens when you're a terrible enough dev to make medium - high tier guns so common that literally everybody in the top 20 will have one, but guns in general uncommon enough to search multiple buildings and not even find one.

basically garbage tier design.
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Reminder that solo queuing into suads with auto-matchmaking turned off is OBJECTIVELY the best way to play the game.
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I swear if there was sound when people run/open doors I would survive a lot longer

I can't fucking believe a game like this ignored sound so hard
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>>172922680
why?
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>>172923578
some teammates will apparently kill you for your equipment
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>lets make a game right
>where you are forced to camp for 40 minutes right
>and then and then get this
>since we wont have anti cheat, right? stay with me now...
>you'll just get 1 shot from a cheater across the map as soon as the circle forces you out of your camping spot and lets him stay in his!


>autistunknown 'tismgrounds
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>that one guy who revs up his cheats at the top 10

why tho
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Do you think the role of SMG's and pistol caliber carbines should be drastically expanded, and rifles (as well as their ammo) made much, much rarer?
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>>172925591
Tommy Gun is going to be on the normal loot "soon". So that gun is legit good enough to pick up for end game mid range battles, and the SMG suppressor is easy to get.

and no, the fun part is mid/long range battles with rifles. If someone wants a custom server with low tier weapons mostly let em.
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>>172925668
>and no, the fun part is mid/long range battles with rifles

I agree, but whats the point of having all these low tier weapons if they virtually never get used, because after the first 5 minutes everyone already has rifles?
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>>172925721
Increase movespeed with the weapons out, or add a weight system. IIRC the movespeed is increased while aiming, which is fucking nothing. So having it out should be a bit faster, or rifle out should be slower.
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does punching not do damage, i was following this nigga and punched him at least 20 times as he was opening doors and he didnt die.
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>tfw one more
>one more
>one more
>ONE
>MORE

improving in this game is addicting
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>>172925954
supposedly it does but after about 5 encounters that went like you described I just stopped trying
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How long do these games last?
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>>172925812
See but now you are essentially proposing an alternate solution that drastically changes the core gameplay design to try and solve what is essentially a problem with the most powerful guns in the game being too common.

It seems one of PUBG's main design pillars is that you aren't supposed to make difficult decisions on gear. If you find better gear, you find better gear, it's that simple. Adding a weight system or consequence to the game seems to be contrary to what he's going for.

So whats the point of having worst options, if the best gear is going to be available after a few minutes of play. It always seems to be more getting the right scopes + suppressor for your gun, than it is trying to find the gun itself.
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>>172926053
for you about 30 seconds
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>>172925954

I beat some white bitch to death in 6 hits with my big meaty ebony fists. Get good cracker.
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>>172925591
>there are almost as many rifles in the game than there are pistols, SMG's and shotguns
>they all seem to spawn relatively at similar rates

has anyone published spawn tables because I don't think I've ever seen anything except rifles in the end game fights
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>>172920329
Was absolutely sure that my naked nigga will be dead in 1 sec. But darn snowyies can't shoot.
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>>172925954
apparently jump punching is way better
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>>172925591
the problem with this would be that the 10 guys who find rifles will probably be the last 10 standing, making it very imbalanced for everyone who only finds smaller calibers
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>>172928691
As far as a scenario goes, do you think a dude with 20 rounds of SKS ammo will have more of an advantage than a guy with 100 rounds of UMP ammo?

That would be the idea, I guess.
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tfw to intelligent too get any vests in the past 10 games
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>top 4
>kill 4th place trying to go to a rock on a beach
>look away
>look back not even two seconds later and someone is running from the water to the rock
Like holy fuck why is it allowed to sit in the fucking water the whole game? I was in the center of the circle for 5 minutes, and he was chilling there in the water the whole time apparently.
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>>172874340
is there a thing like the gas in kotk or any other kind of timer for the match in battleground?
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>>172930232
no they just throw everyone in a massive area and say "lol kill each other if u want idc"
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>the price of battlegrounds
wtf man
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>last 2
>hiding right around corner from closed door
>nigga flies around and headshots me
>didnt even hear anything
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>pinned down by two retards camping the edge of the playzone
>it's closing in
>they just stay there until all 3 of us die to gas
neat
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>>172930283
wtf are you talking about

>>172930232
yeah the field of play progressively gets smaller and smaller, staying outside the field will cause damage to you over time

In some ways, the degree in which the field of play shrinks is a little too fast
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>>172931678
>wtf are you talking about
that's a little thing we non-autistic folks call 'sarcasm'
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>>172932140
there is literally nothing in your post that would imply sarcasm

just because you said it out loud in a sarcastic manner doesn't mean we can also hear your inflection
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>>172932331
to a neurotypical person the ridiculousness of the scenario presented would imply sarcasm
sorry for your 'tism
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This is the most important map of the game, use it wisely.

Also stop responding to twitch fags and that fag calling everyone a shill. If you see a reply to them, assume it's samefagging.
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>>172931678

i agree the circles need to chill the fuck out.

especially endgame circles.

tone down the damage or fuck off with the 60 second circle resizing.
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i am actually incapable of using shotguns in this game

no matter what i do i can't hit people with them, even from point blank

i have to use auto weapons for close range combat
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>>172933596
im the exact fucking opposite
i cant do shit with an automatic rifle
but i can destroy anything with a shotgun
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>>172933380
don't the car and gun spawns change every game?
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>>172933690
these are guaranteed dacia in garage spawns. they are there every time.
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>>172933380
>>172933690
Guaranteed car spawns are 100% going to be removed. They are pretty much the anti-thesis of "battle royale" and having a strat that works every time for the first like 8 minutes of the game is pretty retarded
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>>172933380
Why you posting this crap when this one goodie exist?
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>>172891631
>muh fuddyfive trollphysics

Except most modern 7.62x39 loads are designed to yaw and tumble on impact. x39 would absolutely fuck your ass up right quick at close range.
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>>172932498
Except there is an entire genre of successful video games that are your "sarcasm" verbatim

Stay mad, aspie
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>>172933420
Should match length be increased? Let's say double the time between resizes, or maybe double or triple the time during resizes (field only moves 1/2 or 1/3 as fast)
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>>172935004
to stay mad I would first have to get mad
projecting your own emotions onto others is another sign of autism
get checked
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>>172935109

i'm probably in the minority that'd rather see the game be slowed down significantly.

at the moment mid-late game is terrible and purely RNG based.

this is because the game forces anybody who didn't dice roll perfectly into the epicentre of the circle to need to permanently be sprinting till the end of the match.

and once you hit very late game -- i.e. last 3 bubbles -- you're basically fucked if you're running behind. the bubble resets and moves so quickly you'll never keep up and not die instantly.

i'd prefer to see every circle change to be as fast as the first circle change; i.e. 5 minutes before it starts moving and then it moves slowly
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>>172935120
>can't refute point
>uses "I'm rubber, you're glue" tier argument to give me a (You)
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>>172934885

ye I don't get guys like this.

heh well surely that tiny bullet will pass through me unimpeded and thus wont deliver its deadly energy unto me!

reality: have you seen even a 'clean' exit wound from a fucking 7.62?
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>>172935539
there was no point
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>>172933847
Because yours has random car spawns, no garages. This is surely useful but also incomplete.

The map I posted lists ONLY garages with a guaranteed spawned dacia.
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whats the hacker situation like in battlegrounds?
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Proposed change log

>double time between play area restrictions
>circle only resizes at a maximum speed slightly below running, so you can outrun it
>Add new Subguns, so there are a total of 7-8 of them
>Increase pistol and submachine gun spawn rates, slightly increase ammo rate
>Drastically decrease military weapon spawns, as well as 8x and rifle suppressors, and rifle ammo
>Increase frequency of crate drops, guarantee even slightly better loot
>Remove fixed vehicle spawns
>Add bullet drop
>Fix issue with bullets hitting windows and pieces of cover
>Add another Sniper, is bolt action without a magazine, where you have to open, load the round, then close the bolt, and give that the current Kar98k spawn time
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>>172936326
Just no. Everything isn't bad, but the total sum is very much so.
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>>172936326

very much agree with arena resizing being longer and slower.
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>>172936249
I havent seen any, only played a few hours though
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>>172936829
>t. AKM, suppressor and 8x user
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>>172937113
Right to the straw-manning, eh? No, it's that the sum is way too drastic a change. Besides, bullet drop is already in.
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>>172937385
Do you even know what a Strawman is???

Do you somehow not have a rifle within the first few minutes of a match?
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>>172937859
Do you even know what it is? Are you even able to discuss something properly? I won't put effort into it unless you show that you are.
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>>172938014
K see ya!
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>>172920012
buy it and sell clothing on the marketplace until you've made your 36.99 back
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>>172936326
you guys realize the circle shrinks quicker if the blue line is super far away from the white line right?
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>>172939354
You notice how I specified the maximum speed, right? You could easily calculate to what degree the circle would shrink even if it's that uncentered, and then make that the time for each phase.

My only disagreement with doing it, despite me even suggesting it, is it would take emphasis away from vehicles to some degree.
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Guys, I finally did it!
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>>172936249
More and more noticeable, at least on EU Servers. Many fishy one shot kill headshots by people who seem to know exactly where you are.
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get off the NA server you filthy street shitting chinks
>>
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why does this game look like dogshit and still run like dogshit? are the devs ever going to optimize it or this one of those "nah fuck you gonna add new hats instead" situations?

i kinda want to play this game but i bought it and it ran like shit (45-60 fps) on my somewhat aged PC so i had to refund it
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>>172942048
>a minimum of 30fps is bad

LOL!
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>>172942252
yes
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>>172942252
1. Yes, it is. This might be news to a console pleb, but 30fps looks like a fucking slideshow in a shooter.
2. Minimum FPS doesn't give a good indication of stuttering and frame drops. Slowest 1% frame render times tells a better story.
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>when you try to kill someone with body shots so you can take their helmet undamaged, but they turn out to have a level 3 vest
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>>172942567
true

this actually really sucks because i have nothing to play at the moment and i liked this game during the 2-hour free-refund period, but the performance issues are just fucking staggering and i can't reasonably give the people making the game 30 bucks for this mess
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>>172942252
60 fps is the bare minimum for shooters, and if you can't run them at 144hz you should kys
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>>172943029
It's supposed to be mostly fixed by mid-April desu, I totally get not wanting to buy it until that patch is pushed though.
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>>172943117
yeah i just read about that.

does anyone happen to know how steam handles buying games that you've already refunded once? i reckon i won't get another 2 hour free period if i buy the game again. i currently have like 114 minutes locked on the game so if i do buy the game, i'll have like 3 minutes to test out if it actually plays better
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>get top 10 solo
>team of 4 riceniggers

when can humanity realize that nonwhites are a blight upon the earth and exterminate them all.
>>
CHINA NUMBA WAN
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>>172944809
TAIWA NUMBA WA
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>>172944809
CHING CHONG CHING CHONG
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>>172945043
FACK U MADA FACKA
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Do people actually play solos without voice chat muted?
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>>172945887
>playing solo
Why would you do this to yourself?
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>>172946314
I might be autistic, but I think it's more fun.
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>>172947189
It is, duo is a lot of fun but I like solo better as well. (and squad is a clustershitfuck that I don't enjoy one bit)
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>>172945887
i wouldnt mind voice chat while playing, just in loading and the plane you just fucking can't have voice chat on
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>>172948279
It's only going to be people screeching for you to get out of their house while they throw grenades at you.
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>3 people parachute to the same place as you
>at least 2 of them find rifles
>you find a frying pan and smoke grenade
>solid snake to jeep
>kill a guy with pan, get seen, throw smoke and sprint to jeep
>escape
holy shit
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>tfw on foot 10 minutes into the game
>tired of this shit
>a car happens to come zoom by
>one tap him with the SKS and take all his shit and car

that was koo
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>>172948581
What if I drove around the map blasting classical overtures all game
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>>172875293
Angus?
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>be in the waiting island
>hear a muffled running in the 90s
>theres like 20 people crawling together to eurobeat

kek
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Compared to H1Z1 I like the weapon variety, weapon attachments, map variety, how aggressive the circle is compared to the gas in H1 (I wish the circle got smaller faster), boats, actual water you can swim in, and being able to choose where you spawn.

The audio in PUG (hearing footsteps/where shots come from) could use some work. Hope they do something about the lowfps towns. Dislike how vehicles sound, how easy it is to shoot people out of them, and how they almost all of them feel like the truck from H1Z1. Strongly dislike what 4x and 8x scopes do to the game. Scopes in PUG make it extremely easy to kill and spot people from long distances making camping very strong. In H1Z1 getting a long range shot without a sniper was difficult enough that even if they had a good position you still had a chance. Better bullet penetration can take care of people camping behind doors.

I know I lot of people see H1Z1 as a run and gun game but a lot of people didn't play that way because of the risk involved and how good you had to be to pull it off consistently which is why you saw a lot of royalty players that only averaged 3 kills a game.
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>>172922509
Your character has a cute ass. Can I use it as a pillow when I prone?
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>safe zone spawns as far away from you as possible every time
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is there first person only server/mod out yet? I hate being being killed cos some fucking wanker sits around corner cheating
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>>172936326
There is bullet drop so fuck off.
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>>172925591
the problem with smgs is that they take a primary slot, not that they dont do what theyre supposed to
as is they compete directly with rifles, shotguns and snipers for a main slot and perform worse than all of them in a comparable category, so theres no reason to keep an smg around unless you have no other options
i heard a suggestion somewhere that there should be machine pistols that you can slot in the tertiary pistol slot but take smg attachments and fire auto, that would probably be the ideal solution, do that and balance smgs to pistols like auto weapons are to long rifles

more weapons of shared ammo types would also be a bonus but thats more of a general balance thing, obviously at this point the rifles are the easiest to slot with each other because they all share two ammo types while the smgs, shotguns and pistols mostly have exclusive ammo and on their own arent worth carrying so it becomes harder to sustain ammo through kills when enemies arent carrying any of what you need
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>>172942048
You make it sound like the game has been out for a year. Big optimization patch is April so calm down.
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xd id's a bedda they'll batch it lmao :D
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>when you go up on someone and ventilate the fuck out of them with an AKM and they still drop you in less shots than you had to fire with their own AKM with no headshots

I have no fucking idea what is going on with cqc in this game, or if it was lag and the guy I was in the house with thinks I didn't even fire a shot. Is armor that big of a deal when it comes to damage reduction? Or did the game just not register that I pumped this guy with atleast 5 rounds of 7.62?
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Getting sick and tired from what used to be tense firefights turning into people headshotting you with the first shot from half across the map.
This game used to be fun, now every 14 year old german with hax installed is playing it too.
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>>172953694
tfw games are fun until non NA subhumans start playing them

can the USA just fucking destroy the rest of the cucked world already? We're off to a good start with the mass refugee immigration but I wish we could speed it up.
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>win every close combat fight with the micro uzi
>endgame some asshole snipes me through a window when I walk past it for a second with instant headshot through level 3 helmet
Either cheating or scopes are imbalanced.
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>>172953930
Thanks to muslim invasion and the "dog eat dog" mentality that comes with them euros dont play for sportsmanship anymore but to win, but not the satisfying win of having had more skill but just winning with every means possible.
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How do people deploy chutes so late? I always nose dive and let the game auto deploy but still half the time people have a gun locked and loaded by the time i hit the ground.
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>>172954426
At this rate, probably hax.
Underage cheating eurofags have latched onto the game.
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>guy lands near me
>I pick up a pistol and shoot him point blank with the barrel of my gun inside his body for 2 whole clips, no way I can miss at least 5 of the shots should land even with absurd recoil/rng
>He just teleports around hitting me with his 10 foot range punches
>pick up ANOTHER GUN and shoot him with 5 bullets
>he's just punching me and teleporting around every time I hit him
>run away because my enemy is literally a bullet sponge laggy fucking chink on the wrong server or something
>he punches me from like 30 feet away and teleports next to me and I get downed


this is fucking stupid, early game is so fucking absolutely broken every single time

why make a game 100 players is it's just unplayable until the first 30 die
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>>172940119

it's the fucking Russians ruining another game, PUBG will be plagued by cheats
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>its a "play 4's, camp in a house in the middle of the circle, never engage any team, wait until "4 ALIVE" and win" episode
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>>172930460

It's been one of the only games I've bought in recent months, worth it even if it is a unoptimized RNG game. Still fun as fuck, also my first BR genre game.
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>>172953413
Armor (especially level 3) is a big deal, so don't shoot it unless you have to. Aim at neck area so you avoid it and might get a headshot.

>>172953936
You're way more visible through windows than you might think.
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>plane doesn't fly near military island
>nobody bothers to loot it
>drive there in a dacia and have so many AKM/SKS/red dot/x4/x8/tier 3 backpack/helmet/vests that my autism flares up and I can't decide what to leave behind
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r8 my latest sosnovka loot haul
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>>172962678
8/10 needs more pimped out guns.
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>>172962678
no meds/10
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I'm still hearing the chatter on the voice audio.
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>in cover
>shoot at someone running across an open field
>him and 2 other people instantly focus me

>run across open field
>someone starts shooting at me from cover
>2 other people start shooting at me from cover
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>>172967458
>run across open field
Might as well blow yourself up with a grenade.
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second sosnovka loot haul

r8 and b8
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>>172968769
Pretty much as perfect of a haul as you can expect to get.
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Times when game is fun/exciting as follows:

First thirty seconds: Fun!
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V
First, second, and third circle enclosures: Boring grindy campfest shit where you're fucked if you didn't get a rifle in the first thirty seconds as all the areas are looted, random buildings are camped by S12K faggots, and crossing open fields is literal suicide if you don't have access to a vehicle
|
V
Fourth circle enclosure and beyond: Fun!
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>>172971532
>First thirty seconds: Fun!
how is unplayable lag fun
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>>172962678
>570 rounds of ammunition assuming the extendo-mags are loaded

>>172968769
>405 rounds

but y tho
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>>172971532
>where you're fucked if you didn't get a rifle
>not operating operationally with a silenced UMP to stalk and kill people for their gear
You suck at this fun thing.
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>>172971935
what else are you going to carry, gas cans?
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>>172971935
Having loads of ammo is great if you have a silencer. You can just spam shots from a safe spot to funnel people into fighting each other for your personal entertainment.
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>>172971935

>has never heard of suppressing fire

Good luck trying to poke your head out to shoot me when I'm lighting your cover up faglord.
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>>172973460
I won't need to, your loud shooting has made you a target to the many autistic campers hidden in various huts and bushes all around us
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>>172973460
>Laugh as you impotently mag dump at the tree which shields me
>Unsheathe frying pan
>*teleports behind you*
>"psssh, nothin personnel kid"
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>>172974289
Good post.
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>>172974030
gas grenades when

much better solution to the camper meta than bullet penetration, and makes the gas masks useful
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>>172976770
That's called a Molotov you dip
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>>172977557
those don't percolate through the walls of the cuck sheds though
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this is a message to the anon INSISTING that there cannot possibly be any bullet drop in the game no matter what the devs and every other player said
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>>172977837
Too bad that was only a knockdown. Shit like that should be instant kill no matter what.
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>>172977640
They could make Molotovs ignite wood
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>server completely shits the bed at the very start of the match
>killfeed filled with literally over 30 people dying to punches or drowning
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Who /dacia/ here?
I love rolling around at top speed hitting nerds that shoot at me in open fields and lasting until the end driving it
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>>172982427
Dacia is stupid, /buggy/ for life!
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>>172982949
>'no cover' the car
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>>172983309
Don't need any cover when you go sanic fast, bouncing across the hills.
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>>172983517

Dacia has literally the same acceleration as a buggy but more control.
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>>172983309
what cover does the dacia offer? it's a square box with huge windows
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>>172983954
Try them both cross country, the buggy is waayyyy more controllable and faster there.
>>
Did they remove crossbows? I swear I haven't seen a single one since the last patch.
>>
how would YOU change PUBG?

What do you think are the current game design issues with Battleground? What can be improved, what can be changed?
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>>172984957
just optimize it and this game is fucking perfect
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>>172984237

No, there's literally no difference in terrains. Buggies are squirrely is all terrain, UAZ and dacia control much better in all terrain. Try playing the game before talking out of your ass.
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>>172978180

don't play duo or squad and it will be an instant kill my baby boy.
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>tfw you're the only one who cares about looking good
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>>172986562
Git gud, your beloved Dacia can't even crest a hill properly.
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>close door behind me
>check a loot pile
>popped
>door is open

I sure do love games that completely ignore sound.
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>>172883953
I mean if you sit in a corner all game..
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>>172984957
Lower tier guns spawn more, high end guns more rare

Not everyone should have an AR by mid game
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>>172988028
whoa you better watch out with these radical opinions man, someone is gonna call you a retard for having some sense of game design
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>>172987169
Yeah they need to fix the footsteps and shit.
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who consistently top10 here?

im so fucking tacticool
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>>172988896
I would be if I had better circle management and positioning, but at least I know my weaknesses
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>>172988896
>strategy involves parachuting to as far away from the main group as possible
>casually loot for first 5 minutes without fear of getting fucked
>run into main arena
>rape people since your inventory is filled with 9 med kits and you have 8x memes

Good strategy bud!
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>barely see kar98 nowadays
>nothing but assault rifles everywhere

Havent seen a crossbow either in days but i think they patched it out.
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just bought the game who wanna group up?

have discord on NA don't care if you're a shitter or no mic fag

http://steamcommunity.com/id/douchey/
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>>172989604
>http://steamcommunity.com/id/douchey/
you should change your description. it's a normie meme nowadays
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>>172989883
i've had it for a while my mans
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>>172985897
This, and keep a hard on for cheats
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>>172984957
The Kar98 shouldn't share ammo with any other gun and ammo for it should be very rare because of how strong it is.

I would like to see everybody start with pistol to prevent deaths from not being able to find a weapon. Make people invincible while parachuting to prevent people who reach the ground first from gunning people still in the air down.

They need to figure out what they want to do with pistols and other low tier weapons. UMPs may as well not exist with how quickly you find better weapons and in the late game fights rarely happen at the range it is good at.

Take out 8x and 4x scopes and replace them with 2x. Being able to spot and shoot other players so easily from afar turns the late game into snipe fests where short/mid range largely do not exist.
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>>172990042
>>172988028
>>172985897
>/pubg/ - reasonable opinions general
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>>172990098
>half AR spawn rate
>everyone spawns with a Glock, 15 rounds and a level 1 vest
>Buff P92, 1911 and all SMGs
>Make ACOG 2x
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>>172990098

>when you find a kar98 + AKM + 4x/reddot so you literally know you've already won the game
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>>172918447
find a guy with a gun. sprint a circle around him and look where hes aiming at when you die.should be a good indicator of where the servers are at.

i usually see them 75 degrees off with their aim by the time im dead
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>>172989216
>he doesnt get atleast 30 kills before top10

L O L
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>>172990393
Playing as the blue zone is cheating you know.
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>>172989604
got one dude already anyone else wanna group up?
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>>172990098

>late game fights
>close range is rare

Well, I mean, if all you're doing is running across fields all game, sure. If you're ever near a city/village shotguns reign supreme. One shot kills through level 3 vests/helms is amazing, and if you've got an S12K you can pretty much camp all day.
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>>172990292

agree with knockin down military grade spawn rates

but personally, I love the mad scramble of landing in a contested area and needing to find a gun asap.

nothin crazier than running past people doing the same thing, finding a pistol last second just as they're coming at you with a machete or pan, and dumping the whole mag in like 1.5 seconds.

or shotgun duels in apartments.
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>>172990693
For me they have been. I either end up in an open field, the mountains, around a bunch of trees with a single shed, or in a place where maybe one or two houses are into the circle and approaching them is dangerous because the guy inside has a nice scope and is just waiting for some fuck to approach.

I would love a ending in the middle of the city where you are checking every single corner.
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>>172990098
yeah i can't wait for every game to begin with everyone randomly spraying bullets everywhere while the earlygame lag is at its peak
50 players dead in 50 seconds
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>spawn in some shit spot
>1 other person with me
>scramble for gun, i get the revolver he has AKM
>outplay his ass and take his sexy akm

He was nooby but damn that felt good.
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>>172990350

Winning games is pure RNG. Technically, you know if you'll top 10 based on the first circle.

Actually winning requires the RNG gods to make the other guy run out of cover instead of you at the final circle.
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>>172991020
>earlygame lag is at its peak
Hopefully that and cities that half your fps when you look at them will be fixed soon.
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>>172991163
This is 100% false
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>>172991569

Nope.

If you're fucked by the first circle you're perpetually running through the open ground or using a car. You're guaranteed to be killed by other stragglers or killed by campers.

If you're a straggler mid-late game circles you're extremely fucked; i.e. if you're in the situation you're running into the zone just as the circle closes on you. You're going to get instantly killed or pinned down and killed by the 60-second circle resizing which does like 1/10 your hp every second.

I have won games where I've been on literally the wrong side of the map (i.e. put the circle on mil base) and I was in northern territories, but the likelihood of winning those situations is like < 10%.

If you start in the circle you just hunker down and own real-estate, hope RNG works out in your favour.

If anybody thinks they're exclusively 'outskilling' people in a final couple of circle resizes I'm guessing they haven't been in many. It's almost entirely RNG on who gets forced to move from cover by the circle.

I say that as the beneficiary of that on numerous occasions.

game I just played: in fields outside Pochinki is where the final circle is closing in. I've killed flankers moving down off hills, I'm behind the only peice of cover in the field (1 rock) and the other guy owns the real-estate of 1 guard tower in the middle of the field.

I should technically die 100%, he outplayed me like a pair to a royal flush, but the RNG gods decided his tower was now out of zone. So gg I just camera raped him as he was coming down and what should of been guaranteed loss was dice rolled to a win.
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>>172992367
No, if you die it is 100% your fault.
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>>172992367
>should of been guaranteed
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>>172992619
maybe it's mostly your fault but in a game with this much RNG it's definitely not 100% your fault
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>>172992619

Prime example of why you're wrong is that last game I played.

He won, I lost, RNG changed the outcome.

That ain't skill, it aint his fault, he just got fucked over.

Get in a few top 5s and call me back my beautiful baby boy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmzWyvFiD0

Anyone got other pubg videos from random shitters?

Theres no one making any videos for this game besides faggy streamers
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>>172992769
I'm sure I'm higher rank than you nigger.
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>>172922635
>high tier guns so common
>guns in general uncommon enough to search multiple buildings and not even find one

what does the autist mean by this?
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>>172992367
There is still plenty of hope after the first circle. The late and mid late circles are where if you are a straggler you are pretty likely to get screwed.

>he outplayed me like a pair to a royal flush
I'm not sure I would call that getting outplayed.
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>>172993025

Maybe, doubt it though. Most people with experience can acknowledge the game isn't pure skill, and that a lot of it is dice rolls & luck.
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>>172993290

Please educate me on how player 1 has a higher probability of better ANYTHING than player 2.

Dont worry, you cant. Your argument is shit and is an excuse for your mistakes.
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>>172993663

Ok, spawning in the middle of the first circle while the other guy spawns on the wrong side of the map.

If you don't think the probability of winning changes based on just that information you don't really understand how probability works.
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>>172993818

Did both players not have an equal probability to pick where they got out?

Is the game biasing the circle for player 1 over player 2?

Thinking is hard, but its ok, we will do it together here and work it out.
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>>172994089
there's an equal probability for either to land in the center (generally) but are you really saying it's not pure luck and a ludicrous advantage if the dice roll comes up and player 2 is smackbang in the center of the circle whereas player 1 isn't even in the ring?
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>>172994261

I am still not convinced that because you are not the first in a house in the middle of the circle, that you are automatically disadvantaged.

I have not seen this in 20 hours in game.
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>>172994340
If you land, go into a house, find a gun and the house ends up being where the final circles are centering in on you are guaranteed top 5 (at least) with no effort or tactics required.

>i have not seen this happen
I've landed, checked out all the houses in the little area I spawned in, found a double barrel shotgun and when the ring started the whole time it just started centering on me.

I pretty much went afk for 20 minutes and did something else and only started playing when there was 10 people left.
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>>172994089

Yes, they had equal opportunity to land anywhere (not relevant).

The placement of the circle is pure RNG (actually the point).

This isn't even a debate, this is a luck mechanic, and if the circle is generated on you that is 'luck' by definition.

This has affected the probability of a win, this is not debatable, it's basic critical thought.

If position more favorable = higher probability of win.
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>>172994340

this is like arguing that your opponent isn't at an advantage if he starts with pocket pair aces in poker.

he hasn't won the hand completely, but his probability is much higher than you.
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>lose
>whine about it anonymously
>never git gud
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>land
>no weapons
>NOTHING
>guy who landed near me runs to roof
>I follow
>neither of us have shit
>fisticuffs
>win because I'm a big black bull who whitey can't compete with
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guys i just got a blue shirt from my 4th crate
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>>172998452

i just want a fuckin camo jacket

how many fuckin crates do I need to open

my friend got one his first crate.
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>>172998565
i feel you
Im tired of looking like gay vin diesel
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>spend 30 minutes walking around and finding nobody because this game only rewards camping in buildings
>finally find someone
>it's some shitskin teleporting around with 800 ping so he's invincible to you but you're a sitting duck to him

can't wait for battle royal game memes to die.
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>>172998678

i dont even mind about roleplayin as a hotnigga or someshit I just want some clothes to help me blend in

nothin like layin in grass wearin a white shirt and white pants with white sneakers.
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>>172998813
we need winter maps so us crackers can hide
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>>172999138
Tfw hill billy cosplay with tanktop undies and a dung gone shotgun
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>>172998729
>this game only rewards camping in buildings

what

camping in a building is a sure way to lose with the current server lag
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Finally got my first win.
feels so good.
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>>173000125
>15 kills
damn son you earned it
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>>173000205
got lucky and killed people who had suppressors so I was running a suppressed M4 and a suppressed M24.
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Just won a solo game against Dr Disrespect (last 2 left alive, me versus him)

AMA
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>>173001837
Who is Dr Disrespect?
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>>173001837
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/5m85si/drdisrespect_reveals_his_identity/

The doc is something special.
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>>173002063
>>173002114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTHtqOk1wg

Only good twitch streamer desu.
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> Play duos with friend
> He insists to run his strat and let him make the calls this round.
> Decide to humor him and run his dumb sounding strat.
> End up camping light house near bridge after only looting 4 houses.
> Have M16, 30 rounds. Friend has UMP. No armor.
> Sit there for two circles. 5 cars drive by.
> Not in the 3rd circle, have to bail soon.
> Walk outside and we spot a player.
> Now or never. We stalk him.
> Friend finally calls out to take him out.
> We fire.
> Too late, he's too far and almost at cover where there's a buggy.
> Target hits cover, peaks, head shots both of us.
> Friend: GG We did great, placed 17 out of 50 and didn't do anything.
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>>173004017
Time for you to get a new friend who isn't a beta cuck.
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>>173000125
judging from this one screenshot you probably play too kill hungry.
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>>173000125
Back to CoD you go.
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Is the x15 scope new? Just got it in a crate and do not think I ever saw it before.
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Will first person ever become the standard or will it be a dead game mode because shitters need to be able to hide behind trees while seeing where the enemy is?
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>>173004754
Not really, I usually stick to the outer part of the circle most of the time but this game I was just camping on top of a mountain and was in the middle of the circle so people would just come up to me.
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>>172922635
I've read this four times and can't decipher this level of retard.

>guns uncommon
>guns also common
>fucking devs
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>>173006000
Give a FOV slider and force first person - game is fixed.

>>173004976
Oh look, its someone who sits in a house until its down to the last ten.

Why would you insult him for getting a respectable amount of kills?
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>>173005967
It only shows up in the airdrops
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>you will never win a match

ive gotten to the point where i can get atleast one kill a match, sometimes 3+ if im doing really good and can get top 10 sometimes but ive made my peace that i dont think ill ever actually get 1st in a match
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>>173007175
Lol rekt
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>>173007175
Dont give up, anon. Just play cautious and have good positioning. Especially in top 10. I won mine by guessing where everyone else was and moving accordingly.
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>>173007175
Are you playing solo or duo? You should really play duo. Playing squad is a little retarded but atleast duo rewards some level of team work and coordination.

Otherwise you are just kind of at the mercy of the game
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>>172978205
How low you want your framerate, senpai?
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>>173006000
A lot of people want first person. I prefer third person shooters myself, but for this game I'll probably end up making the switch over.
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>>173007175
What I do is go to looting areas that not many people go to depending on where the plane spawns like Mylta power or the Ruins are the ones that I usually go just to get an AR and some meds and just play around the edge of the circle most of the time and always make sure you have cover. After a while you'll get know what spots are good and what spots aren't.
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>>172986727
>Welding mask over a paint-fumes respirator
>Looking good
anon pls
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>>173007175
>tfw won your first game on day one
>tfw it was only your 3rd match
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>>173008050
>he doesn't go full mad max
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>>173008250
nothing about that loadout is mad max
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So to summarize, this game needs

1) Playable Area circles to chill the fuck out, or perhaps be more gradual over the course of the game instead of such a HUGE shrink in the first resize

2) Military weapon spawns to chill the fuck out since you will usually find an M16, AKM or other guns within the first few minutes of play

3) Maybe end game match length slightly increased, to not be such a frenzy and getting fucked by RNG
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>stumble my way to the end game by accident and by virtue of being alone
>make it to 3rd with nothing but an M4, an ACOG, some ammo and 5 bandages
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>>173008329

ye
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>>173006327
You're functionally illiterate.
>There should be more guns overall, but fewer of them should be ARs
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>>173008329
1st two circles should be MUCH faster, it's the worst part of the game

end game circles should have an additional minute added
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>>173008319
Retarded headwear and spiked boots is mad max, anon.
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>>172951916
More importantly than your point about SMG's not sharing ammo, is the fact that rifles are sooooo abundant and do share ammo, and are likely to be what your enemies are using.

It almost kind of makes no sense to have so few non rifles, then have rifles be the top tier gun in the game, and then make those guns spawn the most. It's sort of at the point where if you just removed pistol and SMG spawns, the game wouldn't change in the slightest. Maybe the first minute or two if you drop in with other people, sure.
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>>172874340
Can someone recommend pro br/dayz/arma streamers who playing BATTLEGROUND right now? Not a casual overhyped retards like lirik.
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>>173009216

>drop in a cluster of houses
>jack shit
>a fucking p92 and a rds, thats it
>get summarily fucked in short order, nothing wrong with that

>another game
>drop into another cluster of houses
>find a SCAR, 2 AKMs, M16, and 2 4x scopes, along with a ton of other shit like first aid and bandages
>was in duo so we wasted 8 people before some SKS faggot killed us

If they touch anything that has to do with weapon spawning, they need to tweak the spread of ARs in the game so shit like this happens less often. This is the issue that is singlehandedly destroying duo.
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>>173008860

fuck no, if you want instant dm go play shipment in cod or something.

its a survival fps with high lethality, strong advantages with positioning & forethought, it does not need to be sped up at all.
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Looks like some hacks are out already

kill feed spammed by 1 dude getting headshots within 2 seconds upon start of the game
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>>173009554
I think the idea of focusing on weapon tiers, and focusing on volume of fire, would be a good place to start. Have shittier guns more readily available, but with higher ammo availability overall - so if you find an SMG you get the typical 60-90 rounds you usually find with it, but if you get a rifle you are LUCKY to find 30 rounds total

beyond that, having access to more non lethal tactical options might help - like a grenade launcher that shoots tier gas or smoke grenades.

I would also argue that the 8x scope should be taken out of the game entirely, and that DMR's / Snipers all have fixed scopes that come with them
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>>173009851
I only want the useless part of the game sped up. . .
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>>173010060
Probably chinanumberone motherfucher or commie one. But public hacks not live long with battleye.
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>>173010202

to me the first circles are the best in the entire game.

you don't gotta contend with a wall of instant death that moves faster than you at a sprint.

you can actually think, stalk, and out position other players.

the best gunfights happen in the first 2 circles

endgame gunfights are 6 faggots hiding on hills with 8x kar98 and the winner is the guy who doesn't get fucked over by circle rng.
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>circles close in wayyyy far away from where game started
>nobody has any idea where anyone else is coming from
>massive clusterfuck ensues
>domed in the back of the head by a Kar at 15th

epic I like it
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>>173010202
I think a better question to ask is why is the end game content sped up sooooooooo much? I would understand speeding up the beginning of the game as an argument, because ultimately you want those 100 people dying, getting dropped to the lobby and re-entering matchmaking to keep it well populated, but why the fuck is the developer so keen on turning the the Top 10 into a 2 minute deathmatch where you are constantly outrunning that blue shit?
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>on the last few circles
>fucking three airdrops within 5 minutes in this zone
>laugh and think who the dumbass is going to be that is actually going to loot those
>inevitably end up fucked by the circles and use one that was scattered as cover seeing as it was an open field past my hidey hole house
More useful than I thought
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>chased out by circle
>literally killed by a guy named Campsalot
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>get fucking one tapped by an m24
>have level 3 gear

The fuck homies? Whats an m24 anyways?
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>>173012831
It's a gun.
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>>173012831
>Whats an m24 anyways?
nys
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>>173012886
Stop acting like that. You know the real answer. What is the m24 exactly? where is it from?
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>>173012980
it is from a website called google.com
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>>173012980
iirc it's a DMR based on the M14
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Game needs to institute mandatory first person view match making.

Maybe make the first first person only mode for squads?
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>decide to book it for military base since the plane flew far from it
>end up landing near a buggy, book it for it but a guy gets in it right before me
>yell at him to wait and give me a ride because fuck it I've got nothing to lose
>he actually stops and lets me get in as he goes around running over people and inevitably dropping me off at the base like I asked
Even in these situations some guys are pretty alright thanks dude
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>>173013694
Fucking teaming faggots I hope you get banned.
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>make it to 14th, feel confident
>stop jeep by ramming into house, take a small amount of damage
>get out
>die because I apparently ran myself over
Fuck you
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>>173014242
No, u. Stupid human.
Your Dacia.
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>>173014462
I think it was a UAZ actually
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>get a skar with 8x scope from a kill
>sniping shitters left and right
>decide to hop in the little blue car and drive around the circle
>some faggot kills me in half a second while im going full speed

fug... i was on fire that round too
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>>173014908
Honestly the prevelance of x4 and x8 scopes is what kind of ruins the end game for me. By then everyone has one and can snipe all day.
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>>173015181
>remove 8x scope
>make 4x scope extremely rare
>add a bunch of different red dots for variety
>all sniper rifles have fixed magnification optics

yay or nay
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>land on the ground
>half the time buildings are made out of play-doh for a minute or two
such is the life of playing on a toaster
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Too laggy to be bothered with currently, will check back in a week or two after patches

If it wasn't a brand new early access game I'd be giving it shit because the state it's in would be unacceptable after a month or two, but for now, I just give it a few patches.
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>>173015276
The 4x scope is a piece of shit ghetto ACOG that isn't even centered correctly

Why would you make it rare?
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>>173015276
Nah, keep the snipers without the fixed scopes, keep x8 v v v v rare, make x4 as rare as a x8 is now.
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>match starts with me chasing someone down with a pan and beating them for my first kill
>end up winning first game ever

feels good man
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>>172884395
What you didn't know is that it's happening constantly, it just depends if you started shooting during a DPRK server hiccup.

If you have a firefight when it's shitting itself, you are literally not shooting bullets as far as the game is concerned. Then the server catches back up, and whoever is where the shotgun-blast of Assault Rifle bullets updates to dies.

It's an absolute shitshow of a game right now.
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Anyone want to play duo with me? My name is Onep on steam. We can use in game or discord! I'm a little buzzed. But this game is just so much more fun with another person. If there's a bunch we could squad up too
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>>173015787
>This guy managed to get a melee weapon to register in 1500ms latency

*applause intensifies
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>>173016117
that games latency was fine

previous one I had to exit out of cause my buildings didnt render though
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this game gon be dead in a couple months

just like this thread lmao
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>>173018395
ayy lmao'

Not as ded as For Honor though
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>>173018735
for honor's got 40k on PC still
and something like 80k on each console iirc
source being global active rankings for participation in the events
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>>173018395
>dev is hyper communicative
>dev is going to add a bunch of shit since he's not retarded
>most popular game in video games right now

I'm not saying there is 0 chance it would die, but he needs to fuck up big time to let it. Since it's pretty much this guys baby, he doesn't have to deal with the bureaucracy / office politics that kills games internally
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>>173019843
>but he needs to fuck up big time to let

the patch that comes out this month should pretty much determine the game's future. if the devs are too incompetent to fix the glaring performance issues then i doubt this game has any future at all. but if they do fix them then i think it'll be an ok game

>Since it's pretty much this guys baby

it's not his dev team, is it though? it's the team that made tera. i don't reckon his creative directoring is allowed to get in the way of making money
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>people unironically using the 8x
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>>173020136
Based on previous experience with Bluehole I guarantee they are 100% focused on monetising cosmetic content
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>>173020136
>i don't reckon his creative directoring is allowed to get in the way of making money

Depends on the contract. Not every company is Activision. The fact they even signed a deal with a modder to make a full game I think is a sign they went slightly non-conventional. It's entirely possible he had big say on the project and everything gameplay related.

The games biggest issues right now are performance issues, which they say they are tweaking, and just the specific focus on unplayable RNG (fast shrinking of playable area) vs playable RNG (you found a bad gun and have to make the best with it) - the latter of which are fixed more through proper concepts moreso than difficulty of programming.

The thing is they need to fix both. If he fixed performance but the game continues to be "You find an M16, 416 or AKM in every third house" it will get super boring, super fast for people. If he fixes the balance but doesn't address performance, he's locking out a ton of potential customers as the game progresses more to a finished state. He needs to tackle both - and then add new content. Not having like 2-3 maps even on launch seems super weird.
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>>173021516
>It's entirely possible he had big say on the project and everything gameplay related.

make no mistake, the reason they called it "playerunknown's battlegrounds" and the reason he's "in charge of the game" is pretty much guaranteed to be a marketing gimmick. i don't doubt that they utilize him as a game designer, but i very, very much doubt he has any actual say in what direction the game's development is actually going to go. he can decide how much damage the AKM is going to do, but he most likely isn't allowed to decide whether they'll work on microtransaction cosmetics or performance improvements. that's just how game development works. the important guys with the money make all the important money decisions, and playerunknown isn't one of those people, he's just some modder who they hired for creative consulting
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>>173021982
>marketing
Sure, but as far as marketing goes it's also not a great push. You are going into Activision territory, where you think they put in the least amount of effort to think they care, and once the fish takes the bait they get yanked out of the water. They could have simply done that without him really. Bringing on someone who has so little brand power outside of Battle Royal modding circles is just really silly.

>but he most likely isn't allowed to decide whether they'll work on microtransaction cosmetics or performance improvements
I've seen his title range from Lead Designer, to Creative Director - so we don't know exactly what his role is down to the day to day stuff, but you don't get titles like that without having say. You can say, sure, he doesn't have the power to stop them from implementing more monetization, but if he goes "We need to do this, or the game will die / stop growing" business men understand that shit too. They don't make the most popular video game of 2017 then simply stop, because they also know they need to keep those people around to keep making money off them with microtransactions.

This all, 100%, depends on how they view Playerunknown. If they think of him exclusively as marketing appeal, they are retarded. If they view him as intellectual capital, he's going to have some pretty big sway on important decisions.

But since they focused on fixing shit like ground textures and stated performance improvements, I feel like their focus is roughly in the right direction. We'll see how far it continues.
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MOST OF MY DEATHS ARE FROM GETTING IN AND OUT OF CARS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173022409
>Bringing on someone who has so little brand power outside of Battle Royal modding circles is just really silly

to be honest i don't think his name has any real marketing power either, but there's basically no other reason to use his name in the title of the game except for the "brand power". the fact that they thought his name had any is probably more incompetence than anything else.

>but if he goes "We need to do this, or the game will die / stop growing" business men understand that shit too

just lmao

>They don't make the most popular video game of 2017 then simply stop

they'll do whatever makes them the most money. once enough people buy the game, it becomes less cost effective to keep working on the game-improving stuff and more cost effective to start milking the whales instead. this is basically the reason why early access is fucking up games so much, devs are cashing out early because they've already made their money with a half-finished game and a half-baked promise that they'll actually finish it at some point. there's no incentive for the devs/publishers to actually finish the game if there's no real money in it. and that's basically why you should basically never buy an early access game if you care about the game getting finished.

>This all, 100%, depends on how they view Playerunknown. If they think of him exclusively as marketing appeal, they are retarded. If they view him as intellectual capital, he's going to have some pretty big sway on important decisions.

you have an misconception of what position he is in. he is not an executive. he is an employee. he does not make decisions involving money and the direction of the development. saying that he does is akin to saying that a graphic designer hired to design the visual outlook for an online store website gets to decide what the online website is going to be selling.
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>>173019843

pretty much, I don't understand this logic of "it'll die in 1 month anyway"

games got a tonne of traction. it's essentially hit critical mass, large concurrent userbase, large twitch presence, large media presence, it's almost hitting Day-Z mod levels of hype.

people always say shit like "it'll die just like ARK"

oh wait ark is still top 10 with 60k concurrent users

uhh .. it'll die like rust! oh wait rust is still averaging 30k concurrent users.

um .. it'll die like h1z1! wait no that has 100k concurrent users ...

... day-z?
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>>173019843
>but he needs to fuck up big time to let it
I'm not even sure a big fuck up could do it. H1Z1 kotk has had performance issues, people complaining about lack of new content, etc yet still stayed strong. There is little competition to unseat them, H1Z1 being the only well known BR game that directly competes with them (Ark and Rust are too different).
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>>173023162
>just lmao

Hold on, you didn't even refute that point. Do you understand basic terminology like opportunity cost and profit potential?

>it becomes less cost effective to keep working on the game-improving stuff and more cost effective to start milking the whales instead.

Absolutely, but if you feel like your product has legs to last (or designing it as such), and you have post launch monetization plans, you need your audience to stick around. When you look at The Division, do you not think Ubisoft is fucking pissed that the developers made a game that sold tens of millions of copies, but was essentially dead within a month? None of those people are still around to milk for money. Instead, had they invested a bit more time and effort into the product, they might have had huge chunks of that audience stay around over the last year, which you could milk constantly.

>he is not an executive. he is an employee. he does not make decisions involving money and the direction of the development

I think you have no idea what a "lead [title]" - in terms of game development - actually means. An an example: If you are the lead gameplay designer, you have total control over the gameplay with the exception of lets just say the genre or super vague "this is what we want the game to be" pitch. Yes, you get the ability to yell at the people above you trying to implement P2W mechanics if you are trying to create a competitive shooter. You can tell them it will undermine the game, and result in less profits. You have the ability to not only justify why you need what you need (in this case, fixing performance), but you actually have a voice in which to challenge the decisions of the people above you. Regardless of whether or not they ultimately agree, you have a voice and it gets heard every time you speak.

He has a big title, represents the game, and they seem to be focused on important shit. The safe bet is they won't cuck us immediately and fuck off.. but who knows
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>>173023216
>Rust

The best thing with Rust is the game is literally years old, and if they time adding amazing shit with a Steam sale you just boost that game back up to it's peak player base.

Even looking at Steam charts the only reason Rust has sloped off was in March of this year, otherwise it's had a huge, consistent presence for the last year, and even then it's current "lul" is still 3x more active users than it's lowest point, which it revived from.

Shits crazy
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>>173023886
>Hold on, you didn't even refute that point.

it was an lmao situation because you assumed that the business men give a shit about the game beyond it making money. pro tip: they don't

>When you look at The Division, do you not think Ubisoft is fucking pissed that the developers made a game that sold tens of millions of copies, but was essentially dead within a month?

if it made its money back and then some, then i doubt they give a shit whether billy the vg user think it's a "dead game". investing time and money into a game after it's already sold for about as much as they can reasonably expect it to sell is a venture that holds nothing but risk if you aren't focusing entirely on microtransactions. creating post-release content that isn't microtransactions is essentially pointless when it comes to making money. it does not make them more money if people keep playing the game longer, unless they're spending money on microtransactions. and that's why so many games fall into the "make an unfinished game, sell it to a million people, then load it with microtransactions, abandon it when it doesn't make money anymore"

you are suggesting that the publisher will keep giving the devs money to improve the game better out of the goodness of their hearts. you can't reasonably expect that to happen.

>Yes, you get the ability to yell at the people above you trying to implement P2W mechanics if you are trying to create a competitive shooter

yes, you do probably get to talk to the producers when you're a lead developer. but they do not have to listen. the lead designer does not have the power to make them do what they want. ultimately, it's up to the publisher whether they want to do what playerunknown wants to do. you arguing that the game will be good because playerunknown has good intentions in mind, but you should really be arguing that the game will be good because bluehole has good intentions.

you yourself do not seem to understand corporate hierarchy
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>>173024092
What's funny about Rust is I thought it was a laggy piece of shit until I met this game.

PUBG has opened my eyes to what I take for granted when it comes to servers
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>get 4 scar shots on a guy in front of me
>instant 360s and kills me in one shot with an AKM

meh
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>>172922509
It's not the guy with 500 ping, it's the server being so fucking ass that it simulates 800ms+ latency.
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>>173025536
u got owned, happens
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>>173025536
Ah, yes, welcome to Windows 95 servers.

(by the way the SCAR-L is the worst AR, I have NO fucking idea why they didn't just say it was the SCAR-H to have a second AR using 7.62 that has more slots than the AKM)
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>>173025619
stfu nigger. my stats are better than urs prolly

>>173025670
really? i think the scar is godlike. ive got so many clean kills with it
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>>173025712
u still got owned!
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>>173024996
>that the business men give a shit about the game beyond it making mone

No, I assume business men have the capability to be highly intelligent and know that having an audience to make money off of, means you can make money off them.

>then I doubt they give a shit whether billy the vg user think it's a "dead game"

This is how I know you are really, really dense. There is ALWAYS more ways to make money, there is always a new angle or means to monetize the game. Just because the game made *a profit*, does not mean the game has made *the most profit it possible can*

Ubisoft invested a fuck ton of money trying to win back the audience of The Division, since Massive fucked up. They thought they could turn the boat around and get that install base back, and it didn't work. It was just too far gone

>It does not make them more money if people keep playing the game longer

Literally the most retarded thing I HAVE EVER READ in the history of /vg/. Like you are actually, 100% retarded if you believe this on any level. There is actually no way you could possibly be more wrong on this subject.

>you are suggesting that a publisher will keep giving the devs money to improve the game better out of the goodness of their hearts

Why strawman?

>you yourself do not seem to understand corporate hierarchy

You seem to have a very elementary understanding of business, or even just one number can be bigger than another number, and how having your audience abandon a product means you can't leverage them to make even more money.

Many game companies choose to opt out after they make a quick buck, but not all of them. Many companies, inside and outside of gaming, know that you can both have the short term cake and eat it long term too, if you do it right. But to imply it's some foreign concept to invest in long term development is just really stupid dude. Take a step back and have a break from the thread.
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>>173025802
Your debate is 100% with some college kid that knows jack shit about the world. You can tell with his mentality of BUSINESS MEN BAD. He cannot fathom that they have brains.

You are conpletely correct on the fact that the team behind Battlegrounds have shown us they are dedicated and that it wont die. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
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>>173025802
i see you are going to "nuh uh" mode, moving the goal posts and reiterating on your poorly thought out points now. it's obvious there's no conversation to be had here so i'm done.

for your homework, i suggest taking a look at how early access games tend to pan out and coming back with an explanation why exactly that wouldn't happen here
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>>173026146
He gave you a fucking essay and you think he is going NUH HUH?

Fucking kek. You are retarded.
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>>173026196
>Literally the most retarded thing I HAVE EVER READ in the history of /vg/. Like you are actually, 100% retarded if you believe this on any level. There is actually no way you could possibly be more wrong on this subject.

this is what an essay looks like XD

why bother arguing about something when he's just going to move the goal posts again. first he argues that PUBG will be good because playerunknown cares about the game, but now suddenly he's arguing that the game will be good because the producers care about the game
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>>172875582
>every single time
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>>173025670
AKM is where it's at.
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>>173026146
>have provided many such explanations
>numerous early access games have not fallen into that trap

wow cool dude

>moving goal posts

Once again you are talking about something you do not understand the meaning of. I can go and quote any of my above points that explicitly mention we don't know exactly how much say he has, but that he has some influence. That at this point they seem focused on the actual game. That from a spreadsheet standpoint actually investing in the game and keeping your audience on board can lead to insane long term profits - which we see as the long term trend and something even the big publishers are starting to turn to as their standard MO.

Even my very first post acknowledged there is no guarantee they won't sink the ship, but that they already have a strong starting point and a good short term development outlook.

Overall my stance has not changed throughout the posts and if I have to hold your hand I can literally start quoting my past posts to demonstrate this.

>>173026423
In the case of that, no dude, your comment is literally retarded. Player retention is arguably the second most, or THE MOST important aspect of a game, depending on what your plan is. You don't really care about retention rate on single player content too much, but if you are going the microtransaction or long term leveraging of your player base player retention could actually be even more important than a few extra sales.

You really seem out of your depth on these topics. This isn't me just adhoming you, you just seem to have very little understanding of how the game business works at even the most basic levels.
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>>173026423
>first he argues that PUBG will be good because playerunknown cares about the game, but now suddenly he's arguing that the game will be good because the producers care about the game

wasnt he was arguing that both of them care about the game since they would not have even hired him if it was just a marketing stunt since nobody knows or cares who PU is?
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>>173026895
>Once again you are talking about something you do not understand the meaning of

read your original post again

>>173019843
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>>173027012
What part of that post is factually untrue?
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>>172875142
Dragunov
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>>173027062
i already told you, first you insinuated that the dev is the thing that determines whether the game will be good or not, but then it changed to the publisher deciding that (and of course bluehole, the publisher that created the non-cash-grabby game Tera will obviously be a benevolent publisher)
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>land in place with 4 hangars
>another dude in the hangar next to mine
>all i find is a frying pan
>fuck it, bumrush him with it
>he has nothing
>get one hit on him
>he legs it
>chase him around the compound for a good minute
>pick up armor and bag as he's busy running away
>chase him down again
>he's picking up a shotgun
>wack his head with the pan

most satisfying kill so far
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>>173027073
>spamfire sniper
SKS is already in the game and honestly needs a buff. When people are preferring an x8 AKM over the SKS you fucked up somewhere. Maybe when they add in a cheek pad for the SKS it will be better, or some other attachment.

>>172875142
Bipods, Arma 3's system where you can sit your weapon on any ledge, Arma 3 stances
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>>173027138
>the guy who designs the fundamental design pillars and core gameplay loop has no influence on whether or not the game will have good gameplay
>the publisher spending money on the appropriate intellectual capital for a project in no way signals that they want to create a good product

H O L Y
S H I T
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>>173027296
so i guess you do admit you moved the goalposts?
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>>172875142
Galil
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>>173027372
How did I move the goal posts? I never abandoned my original point, I continue to stand by it, and when you try and change the topic to something else I am informing you how that feeds into my original point

If your definition of "moving goal posts" is that I follow you down your rabbit hole into a discussion about how some developers will make a quick buck on a project and then abandon funding, so we need to assume the same will happen here despite having some really good arguments why that might not occur... Sure I guess I'm moving the goal posts?
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>>173027257
>people are preferring an x8 AKM over the SKS
In what fucking universe. AKM has a slightly larger magazine capacity but the fire rate, damage output, and accuracy of the SKS makes it vastly superior if you're not a spray and pray retard.
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>>173027571
is that I don't follow***
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>>173027571
>How did I move the goal posts?
i already told you, first you insinuated that the dev is the thing that determines whether the game will be good or not, but then it changed to the publisher deciding that (and of course bluehole, the publisher that created the non-cash-grabby game Tera will obviously be a benevolent publisher)
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>>173027643
But I still stand by that point? When you tried to move the discussion to something else, I addressed how that likely not only feeds into the game as well but to why I stand by my statement of PU caring for the game + his having influence. Explain how the goal post was moved if I am still at that goal post?
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>>173028035
>When you tried to move the discussion to something else

i never did. you did. you argued that the lead dev is good and that will make the game good. i argued that the publisher will be the primary determinant whether the game will be good or not. then, you moved onto arguing about the publisher being good instead, which is not a point i want to even contest because neither of us know what kind of publisher bluehole will turn out to be with this game. PU might be the most amazing developer on the planet who is amazing at explaining how things work to the publisher, but it still won't matter if the publisher decides to be shitty. you are trying to argue something entirely different now.
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is it just me or are smoke/stun grenades fucking useless

the smokes make a piddly shitshow of fog that doesn't cover more than 5 feet and the stuns literally do nothing, been hit by one point blank and all it did was make shit blurry, still killed the guy who threw it
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>>173028230
>i never [moved the goal posts].
>you did
>you argued that the lead dev
>i argued that the publisher

Jesus Christ dude read your shit before you post

And my point, refuting your points, is that we can observe that the publisher so far has made the right moves and is likely empowering PU, which feeds into my point perfectly. If the publisher provides PU with the tools, it literally comes down to PU to do the job right.

If your idea of being fallacious is actually engaging with your argument and responding to it then we can't have a discussion because you are literally defining terms of debate that make it impossible to have one.
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suppressors are goat
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>>173028685
are you trolling me now
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>>173028689
Shooting people from across the map is even better.
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>>173029050
>LOL IT'S NOT THE DEV IT'S THE PUBLISHER
>Well the publisher hired him, moved him to Korea, put his name in the title, seems to be heavily designing the game around his goals and vision, and their short term outlook seems to be focused primarily on game health and improving the game, so it seems like they are setting the dev up for success and fully supporting him
>LOL ARE YOU TROLLING ME
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Has anyone found the actual ingame stats for the guns? Or created a mod where you can test this shit with ragdolls?
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>>173029175
>>LOL IT'S NOT THE DEV IT'S THE PUBLISHER
>>Well the publisher hired him, moved him to Korea, put his name in the title, seems to be heavily designing the game around his goals and vision, and their short term outlook seems to be focused primarily on game health and improving the game, so it seems like they are setting the dev up for success and fully supporting him

so... it is the publisher?
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>>173029095
I can never figure out bullet drop if they're too far away
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>>173029349
>so... it is the publisher?

You can read my very first reply to you where I said, and I quote

>>173021516
>Not every company is Activision.
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>all trailers for this game show riveting COD Tier action with looting and scavenging mechanics
>turns out it's just mostly just abusing third person view and plink at enemies running across an open field in the distance because the map is arbitrarily trying to kill them
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>>173028627
Smokes are pretty usefull if you are stuck behind a single tree or rock etc in endgame
flashes are useless i agree
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>H1Z1
>shogun is wonky and unreliable but the game gives you plenty of opportunities to use it

>PUG
>shoguns are great but opportunities to use them are all that common because there is no good way to close the distance like in H1 and the power of scopes make most fights long range affairs

I've tried holding on to shotguns for "just in case" scenarios but it hasn't worked out yet. In the mid game and beyond approaching any type house is dangerous because there could always be a guy inside camping with a 4x/8x waiting for some poor fuck to approach and in such cases you are better off trying to spot and shot them through the windows. I either end up with double AR or AR/sniper at the end of games because of that.
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I take back what i said about kar98's
theyre comfy as fuck to use
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>>173032625

They really are the best weapon in the game for those with patience and accuracy.
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>>173023162
>to be honest i don't think his name has any real marketing power either, but there's basically no other reason to use his name in the title of the game except for the "brand power". the fact that they thought his name had any is probably more incompetence than anything else.
Pu55yD35tr0y3r_420's battleground.
Also they obviously wanna build him up to be this mysterious elusive figure.

The game is great but the branding is beyond shit.
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>>173031932
I use the shotgun regularily. Works really well inside houses, even the 2 shot one.
I don't get why people hate on the micro uzi and the shotgun so much.
Both my weapons of choice.
But I prefer close combat and HATE sniper duels.
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Just snagged my second win. I love this Battle Royale shit
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>>173033615
>Works really well inside houses, even the 2 shot one.
I know. Unfortunately I don't get a lot of chances to use them that way past the early game.

>micro uzi
It gets out classed too easily and too quickly.

>HATE sniper duels.
I don't like them that much either but the game heavily favors them.
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>>173033615
I fucking love the uzi. It dumps the entire mag fast as fuc.
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>>173033615
Yeah, I wish the sniper duels weren't so common. Even when the circle goes into a town, mostly rifles are around.
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Anyone know how to increase FPS in the larger towns? My computer is pretty good, got an i7, 1080 and everything but it goes so fucking low in those big towns.
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>>173034098
>>173033886
My problem with sniper duels is that they get dominated by git gud fags who crank low all their settings in the ini and literally have no foliage or textures displayed and play 500fps shooting gallery.
Kinda not fun if you just wanna play the game normally without some psychotic european kid hooked on monster energy jacking it to his sniper skills.
I like the tension of long distance firefights where not every shot is a instant headshot but sprinting from cover to cover and mindgaming each other.
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>>173034279
I got a toaster and I run the game in 40-50 frames but in towns it dips to 17-26
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>>173034491
word up on that
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>>173034491
>I like the tension of long distance firefights where not every shot is a instant headshot but sprinting from cover to cover and mindgaming each other.
Sprinting from cover to cover is kinda of a death sentence when it is so easy to hit shots with scopes. It doesn't feel like there is much room for mindgames in long range sniper fights where just peeking out behind a tree is a big risk.
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Are footsteps going to be this quiet permanately... it's not even realistic at this point you can usually hear if someone is sprinting by you on concrete/gravel/and in the woods. Starting to kill the game for me.
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low light/low vis weather maps when
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Reminder you can take off your shoes and your feet make different sounds
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Any oceanic players want to play some duos?
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>>173036471
>>173036285
why even make shoes a thing? just make everyone wear the same boots with the same level of sound

so stupid
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>have to press F 5 times to get into a car
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Any ideas on how to subtly make my mate improve?
Never played any tactical shooters besides dayz and he is so fucking bad in this game.
We die before endgame without killing anybody 19 out 20 games.
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>>173037235

>press F nothing happens
>press F nothing happens then again
>second click apparently registered so now i enter the vehicle and exit it

Never thought i would get more frustrated over a vehicle system than ARMA.
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>>173036285
>>173036471
bare feet were a bit quieter before this last patch, now the feet slap sound might be a little more audible than what they fucked up with other footsteps
if the autofellatio of the sound guy in the last patch notes over his "turbosick bullet whiz crack positional audio that you plebs just can't understand, what do you mean it's broken it works fine in the test world lol" is any indication, the sound is going to stay fucked up in this game, and that's extremely disappointing because it's by far the worst thing about it right now
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>>173038047
>tfw there is no sound when other players open or close doors
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>>173038047
What do you mean the bullet sound is broken? I can always tell from where I'm being shot at.
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>>173038338
same
doors and footsteps are a problem though
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>>173028627

I use smoke regularly to cover open areas or to pick up a mate who's downed or bait that I'm rushing a field. Or generally just lag people down in houses. I haven't managed to hit someone with a stun grenade yet though.
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>>173037492
improve your mechanical skill (aiming and movement skills)
learn to abuse 3rd person around walls and shit
dont move around so much, move from tree to tree and chill out for a few seconds between to check your surroundings for movement
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>there are people who think the 8x scope should be removed
>they never mention the 12x scope because they are so shit they don't know it exists
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>>173040191
it's 15x you numbnuts
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>>173040191

I don't mind scopes, i just think it's sad that AR and AKM is so common and that they can take all sights. Not to mention bullet drop that is barely in the game even for pitiful 5.56 calibre.
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>>173038149

>can hear my friend upstairs do the slightest shift loud and clear
>the fucking batman storms into the house through the door without a sound and start screaming where scarecrow is
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>>173040873
You do realize that with the typical engagement distances in the game bullets won't drop much, right? This isn't battlefield where the guns shoot softballs.
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>>173035237
The game area is huge and it can be hard to realize from where you're getting shot at, if the shooter is already back in cover and missed once.
So there is tension.

With obvious ini cheesers or cheaters there is no tension only one hit headshots all day erry day.

Its tolerable if you think of those people as instakill stage hazards, but it is kinda lame none the less.
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>>173040985
This.
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>>173040873
You might feel there is barely any bullet drop, but I can almost guarantee that you aren't engaging someone more then 300m out.
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>land at crater base with like 5 other people
>some guy in the same barracks as me when we land
>desperate for weapon
>fucking sickle
>fuck it
>sprint for the other guy
>he picks up a shotgun in my face
>he backpeddles while trying to load
>screams "DADDY NO, HAVE MERCY"
>somehow one-shot him with a sickle to the head

sometimes people are alright, the situation and that guy made for amusing start for me in the moment, i went on and killed the other 3 after finding a silenced ump.
I'm addicted to this game.
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>>173038338
The gunshot seems to take the positional audio location of the whiz or impact sometimes, usually happens between 20 and 100 yards, can be looking directly at someone and the gunshots will sound directly right\left
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>>173042576
Never experienced that myself, though they do happen pretty simultaneously at that distance.
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>>173041350
Can you tell me how to properly snipe in this game?
Every sniping location I hide at gets immediately spotted and I get instaheadshot kills by people I cant even see meanwhile I have a hard time actually finding targets, because people run so fast into cover or hide in buildings.
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>>173042902
People are less likely to check windows in early game as most people are looking for gear. Hilltops are pretty bad locations to snipe from as anyone who can see the crest will see you sticking out like a sore thumb. Really, it's best to hide behind something solid and abusing that third person camera to watch for movement and then popping out to shoot them by getting near the edge of your cover while still being able to see them, looking down the sights in third person and when your crosshairs are over/near your target switch to first person to start firing.

Personally, my best snipes have been from inside those cotton plant looking bushes. I spent a couple dollars buying darker clothing from the market so I don't stick out so easily and those bushes basically make you invisible as long as you don't move and hold down ALT to look around.
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>>173042902
What the other anon said is good. In addition, sniping from well inside a building works pretty good. You have a narrow field of vision so you can see anyone that might see you, and you're way less visible than if you were right by the window. It's especially good to stand in the shadows and being behind a desk or something that blocks parts of you from view.
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>>173042902
Also, when the circle starts getting small, make sure you move after firing. That is, when you kill the target or he got away. I played a squad game last night and we battled two teams from both sides while inside a tower. The circle kept shrinking around us so we were good, but because of all the shooting everyone knew we were there. I was trying to camp the doorway, but some shithead already knew we were there and managed to down me with a headshot from the barred window through a tree so that goes to show that you can be seen without being seen.
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>>173045025
The only way to win is to never confront anybody and wait until its just you and another team that's already been raped then you just clean them up
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>>173047751
I mostly play solo anyway.
>just won about a minute ago
>first game of today
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>>173048570
Also this win was mostly me running from one circle to the other and I was only able to loot 5 buildings at the very start. Only got the sks after killing a dude near an airdrop when I only had 60 rounds for my scar.
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holy fuck I've logged 40 hours the last 5 days

can't remember the last time I got this into a game
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Anyone wanna play some coop?
Add me on steam
steamcommunity.com/id/jesusearl
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>>173050645
How many wins do you have?
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>Tire gets shot out
>Swerve off cliff
>Hit the water
>Get out of car
>You ran yourself over

My speed was negligible too. How the fuck are vehicle collisions calculated?
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>>173051452
Shit is pretty retarded right now. I've ran into a tree head-on going 90mph and took no damage, but I can roll over extremely slowly and as soon as I'm flipped I'll take a chunk of damage.
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>get ambushed
>shoot his helmet off before I die
>only had a motorcycle helmet myself
Anyone else take bizzare pleasure in fucking over the guy that kills you? I'll fuck up my car if it looks like I'm losing too.
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>>173050645
EU or US?
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>>173052205
If I know I can't win a firefight, but that I will die, I run off to some inconvenient area as they chase me, drop any good gear I have, and then book it across an open area, so when they kill me I waste their loot time
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>>173051683
Drove over a a clean field, no rocks or nothing and suddenly crash to a complete stop, taking almost 50% damage.
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It baffles me how many people keep their guns on single fire all the time.

>guy hold up upstairs
>doesn't want to peak
>decide to clear him out
>walk up the stairs
>he mashes m1 and misses all 6 shot he takes
>just mag dump a ump in his general direction

Anyone else always full auto when they can? I just single fire on auto now when I need to.
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>get stuck in space in between door and wall by opening the door
>cant get myself out, teammate has to come and close the door
>immediately knocked out as soon as i get unstuck

lel
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>>173054360
Single fire is a lot more conductive to precise headshots which typically kill faster than mag dumps against someone with lvl.2 or 3 armor. It requires fast aim though. Personally I'll still full auto indoors if I don't have a shotgun though, because I'm not good enough at aiming in CQC.
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to they even post the patchnotes for minor patches? it drive me nuts when steam download something and i don't know what it does
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>>173054360
Full auto is a bitch midrange no shit, but yeah if he's single shot inside a building he's retarded.

>3 buddies, 1 rando
>we're in a house
>open bathroom
>holy shit there's a guy in here
>he blasts me
>our rando runs up to him with a UMP on single "POP.... POP.... POP.... POP..."
>other guy just had an over under shotty and got killed before he could reload
kek
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>>173055113
In Day Z that was a feature
>running ontop of rocks
>*CRACK*
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>>173052714
I'm EU play with me friend
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how to change language?
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>>173060042
cyka blyat
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>>173059862
sent
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>>173031932
They're great for early in the game because everyone is too busy looking for loot than holding out innawoods
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>>173060124
>>173060042
alöright that was easy, it's literally in the in-game settings.
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>>173060346
Good for you sven.
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>>173033503
My buddies and I almost exclusively call this game "that game"

>>173037235
>holy shit guys we're getting shot at get in the car
>everybody is in
>"COME ON HURRY UP"
>spamming F
>finally get in
>they start moving
>get popped out
>they have to slam on the brakes and I have to run 10 feet to get in the car but by that time I'm dead between getting chunked for getting out the car and getting shot
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Watching Lirik play it daily, but I don't think I will like the game just yet.
Hopefully the game will get some improvements in the next few weeks, because I really need a new game to play. The way sound travels from different positions seems to be buggy and shit.
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>>173052205
I've had two level 2 helmets shot off my head in one squad game. First helmet melted in a second and the two guys that did it that died both had their helmets destroyed too so I had to take the fucked up one the next guy we killed had and lost it afterwards anyway.
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I would like to see some limited crafting options like being able to make a level 2 helmet with two level 1 helmets.
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>>173060850
Bullet travels faster then sound. If bullet comes near you you'll hear the wizz before you hear the gun shot. What confuses people is they hear the wizz and look in that direction and then they ignore the gunshot until it happens a few times and are able to home in on where it's from.
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>>173060169
>>173060169
Sorry I was another guy, heres my steam
http://steamcommunity.com/id/rocklobsterplayer/

EU guy
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>>173060568
>My buddies and I almost exclusively call this game "that game"
I just call it "battlegrounds".
I refuse to use the full name.
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>>173062119
sent
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Stealth kills when?
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>>173023115
1) slow down the car till it is completely stopped or rolling slowly
2) get out of car
Its literally not that hard to do.
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>>173064853
Not really viable until there's first person servers. Until then there's always love-taps to the head with a silenced S12K.
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>>173064853
Need viable stealth first. I'm not even sure if most people play with things like shadows or foliage on which are crucial for stealth.
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Why does performance vary so much in this game?
One game everything works perfectly, and then the next I'll freeze for 3 minutes and have to force close the game.
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>>173066513
Quite a bit of it is on the servers that are continually being tweaked and still are in a quite unstable phase.
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AMD Athlon X4 860k, Nvidia GeForce GT 710, 8g RAM. It's primarily a budget yet personal build for everyday needs, but with all settings low, can it run?
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>>173068395
AMD Phenom II X4 965
GeForce GTX 660
8GB RAM

I run everything on low and get like 40-60 fps
so I don't think it will be so great for you
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>>172878726
Literally working as intended.
Keep in mind, 30-06 is slightly hotter than .308 which is slightly hotter than standard 7.62 NATO.

Its kind of annoying how they use "7.62" for all firearms with .308 bores and the mauser despite being 7.92.

I have a feeling they did this because the majority of people playing it aren't autistic /k/ucks like me and simplifies the loot system while also being "technically" correct on a bullet size standpoint
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When you hear a distant gun crack and then a bullet casing drop sound effect, is that ricochet hitting hear you or what?
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>>173027257
How about replace the sks wth the dragunov as the sks is literally a cuckstate AK replacement.
They could (and should) introduce different forms of 7.62 (such as 7.62 x39, x51, and in this case x54r) and 8mm mauser while also distinguishing the damage models between all of them so that the AK isnt better than the implemented dragunov
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>>173070440
I should have used substitute instead of replacememt as cuckstates can't have a fully functioning AK anyways.
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>>173070271
Its a glitch, if you pay close attention sometimes you can see a casing eject from your firearm with that sound effect
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>>173069006
Damn. Shame.
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>>173069006
We have nearly identical specs, as log as its 40+ fps it should be fine?
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>>173071026
personally I'd rather have one of the 80s than one of the 60s or below for graphics cards
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My heart is exploding in my chest right now and my hands are shaking, what a goddamn finish. At last I can rest easy finally getting #1 instead of the previous 11 #2's.
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>>173070037
>simplifies the loot system
I'm not sure that is a good thing. From a balance perspective do you really want people to have so much ammo for something like the Kar98? I'm can't even remember running out of ammo in a game because you use scopes/single shot to do much of the killing late game.
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>>172875142
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>>173072726
>>172875142
I would love a Bond themed battle royale game. Especially if on Scaramanga's island.
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>Last 2 alive
>have positional advantage i see him first
>hit him with the kar
>run into him with the m16 put dank shots into him
>he instantly kills me with the SCAR-L

FUCK LEVEL 3 GEAR FUCKING HORSESHIT THAT WIN WAS MINE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

my heart was fucking pumping doe
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>>173072390

It seems to me like you either find ALL THE AMMO, or you find fucking nothing.
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>>173072228
>2 kills
>is proud of this
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>>173073172

All I could find for the first twenty minutes was a shitty pump action shotgun, and it wasn't until the last 3 closing circles that I was able to blast some niggers and take his AKM + SKS. Everyone else had rifles so I was forced to stay indoors if I wanted to stay alive with my shitty shotgun.

Also, kills don't matter, getting winner winner chicken dinner does. :^)
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>>173073536
>game literally about getting kills
>"winning" literally doesnt matter, its about kills
>thinks "winning" matters
aint a win without bragging rights. getting a W as a bitch means you're still a bitch. Grow some balls, get some kills, then win and feel proud. You should genuinely be ashamed of that score.
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How do people feel about the average engagement ranges in this game? I was hoping most gun fights would be in the 0 to 50 meter range but often it feels like it is 100+ meters or nothing.
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>>173073769

>this assblasted that you can't win

lmao whatever kid, go back to cod if all you care about is KDR
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>>173073984

Stay in cities/villages, the average engagements in those is always 3-50 meters. That's the awesome thing about this game, you can force engagements in areas you enjoy.
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>>173073769
Winning shows up on your record though

99% of peoples win:rounds ratio is so fucking low its crazy. With a little patience you could be top 500
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>>173073984
I stay out of cities whenever I can because I don't enjoy short range as much. My favourite range is 200m+, but then again I'm the type to hit at 500m with a red dot.
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>>173073984
Long range engagements are the best part of this game imo
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>>173074486
>tfw leading shots for the first time and getting the kill
>tfw 300m range is my longest range kill on my profile records
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>>173074019
as somebody who just got their first win
winning is worth nothing right now, kills get you way more quiche than your placing at the end of the round
they really need to bump up the rewards for winning
like winning gets you a crate with certain clothes you can only get by winning or some shit
right now there's no way to brag outside of taking a screen of your stats page or getting on the leaderboards
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>>173073984
I like short range engagements, getting into the city against other people. Makes the game more fun imo instead of landing away from everyone and not getting into a fight for 20 minutes only to be killed by some guy sniping.
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>>173074725
It really is satisfying landing shots you put effort into. Remember that you can use the map to range, so that you'll instantly know how much drop and lead is necessary around different landmarks you expect people to be around.
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>>173075128
Wew i never knew that. Thats cool as fuck.

Which sight do you prefer, red dot or holographic?
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>>173074165
>Stay in cities/villages
The circle usually pushes me out after I clear out the first city. Approaching villages is risky because of window snipers and they are usually surrounded by open fields.

I hope they develop forests so they become more like cities in the sense there are multiple twisting paths and choke points creating a Predator like experience where you have snipers, machinegunners, and stealthy fucks with knifes on the hunt instead of a few trees and rocks scattered around.

>>173074486
>but then again I'm the type to hit at 500m with a red dot.
That is pretty damn impressive. People would probably call you a hacker if they knew you were only using a red dot.
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>>173075203
Holo is better at range imo, and a 4x is obviously really nice whenever I can get one, because it's really only too much at really close range.

>>173075367
As long as you can spot them the sight doesn't matter too much really, the scopes are mostly useful for spotting. With the correct ranging even irons do the job.
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>>173075367

>approaching villages is risky

Not if you're pumping NOS into a vehicle as you blaze into an urban area.
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>>173075724
Depends on what type of vehicle. The buggy is a one way trip to headshot city.

On the subject of vehicles do they ever run out of gas?
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>>173075898
They do run out of gas, though they don't consume it too fast. Boats on the other hand drink gasoline like water.
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What's the DBNO statistic in duo and squad?
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>>173074423
yes but whats the point if all your wins are a lie because you got shit for kills

kdr in battle royale matters. Its probably the only game type where it actually legitimately matters.
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>>173076224
It really doesn't though
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>>173076216
Down But Not Out
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>>173075898

Using the nitrous system burns gas really fucking fast in vehicles. Obviously you don't want to use buggies unless nothing else is available, but even then buggies beat the hell out of slowly sprinting to target areas.

>>173076224

I think you got confused friend, this game isn't Call of Duty. KDR does not matter if you can't win.
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>>173076331
Denial is the first step, anon
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>>173075592
I lot of people I've played with are terrible at using iron sights and struggle hitting something with red dot past 50m so being able to hit something that far with just a red shot is way above average in my experience.
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>>173076592
It does if you win and are proud of having 5 or less kills.
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>>173069006
Phenom II
GTX 760
16 GB ram
I run on custom settings with some on high (texture) some on very low (AA) and some on medium and I get 40-50.
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>>173076709
It might be above average, but all you really need to do is to actually use the sight ranging and be precise enough with the mouse.
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Srsly interested what FPS you guys get at which settings. I get an average of around 50 with drops to 30 sometimes, in cities or congested areas.
Settings are all at very low, excluding Anti-Aliasing and Textures which are high. Not included is the airdrop at the start of the match, which always runs like shit.
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>no binoculars
>no day/night cycles with flares/flashlights/night vision

Flash supressors are useless currently since muzzle flashes don't do shit in daylight.
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>>173077175
>yasnaya polnaya aka diashow city
i fucking hate this town, i only ever go there for the car and sometimes stop for the diner
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>>173077175
running at 80-100 in the open
~50 in cities

everything on very low
GTX970
i5 4570S 2.9GHz
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>want the red bandanna because muh defias bandit mask
>38 bucks on steam
fuck you BG community
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>>173077227
Binocs and night maps would be fucking great, but I don't think the latter is a good idea yet while even rain is detrimental to performance as it is.
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>>173079323
>while even rain is detrimental to performance as it is.
It still rains through buildings for me.
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>kill a fag
>take his Defias bandit mask

Remember anon, the defias mask is bind on pickup. Buying it isn't legit.
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>landing somewhere with another guy
>both of us with exact same look and clothes
>find shotgun, he has nothing
>decide to not shoot him but let him run away
>he stops and waited a few seconds before noticed that I'm not shooting him, runs away

Later that game, about 10 left
>run in house
>find the game from beginning
>drops medicine and red bull
>runs out of house
>hear shots and he got killed when leaving the building

Never felt so sad in my life
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>>173079779
*player not game
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you guys ever got a melee kill?
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>>173079894

Literally the only times I get melee kills is in the first 10 seconds of landing when someone lands near me. After that you'll get killed by even the shittiest of pistols if you try to smack someone.
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>>173079571
but I want my OWN MASK
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>>173079894
I got one after I gutshot someone with a kar
but I had to bennyhill with them around some boxes for 2 minutes before I landed my machete in their spine
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>>173079894
One with fists against a guy with a sickle, and one against a pistol fag with a pan. Jumping head-hits are pretty strong.
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Best 5.56mm assault rifle?
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>>173081109
scar for rapid single shots
M16A4 for long distance headshots
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Am I the only one who absolutely LOVES it when it's raining? Shit feels like a true Chernobyl wasteland when it goes full stormy grey clouds and a downpour of water.
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>>173076726
1 kill + win > 10 kills + second place
Sorry buddy, only thing that matters is being last alive. If you can kill so many people and still get fucked by the one guy that hasn't killed anyone then that makes you the shitter.
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>>173081191
Is the M416 any good when you fill it with all the attachments?
>>173081224
Pussy.
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>>173081410
M4 with the tac stock and suppressor is fucking nasty
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What are the worst ways to die in the game? Being killed while swimming, dying right after landing because you couldn't find a weapon have to be up there, or running yourself over have to be up there.
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>>173081224
>1 kill + win > 10 kills + second place
except a person with 10 kills in 10th place still earns more cash than the person who wins with one kill
>>173081410
M416 is good with all attachments for close-midrange
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>>173081472
Getting punched to death when you're trying to reload the gun you just picked up
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Reminder that if you're one of the first 60 to die you're garbage at video games and should uninstall.

>>173081536

>cash

Whatever it takes to justify losing. :^)
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>>173081410
>pussy
How many wins you got, shitter?
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>>173081472
dying because you had to move into the final couple circles and there's literally no cover anywhere
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>>173081472

I see about 10-15 people every single game that get killed by running themselves over. Probably H1Z1 kiddies that think they can leap out of cars moving at 100 kph. They're great for a laugh when you see it happen.
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>>173081638
well someone has to be the die first though

does make me curious, how does player 96 or whatever manage to die while most players are still in the plane though? parachute into a power pylon and drop to death?
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>NormieKiller420 has been killed

F
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>>173081638
I prefer to play moderate-high risk in the start to ensure an interesting match. I'd rather die fast and cut my losses than spend 20 minutes without seeing anyone. Go hard or go home.
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>>173081109
I'll take m4 over everything. Combination of what >>173081191 said. Ideally I'll take m4 + a sniper (awm > sks > m24 > kar)
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>>173081894

>le be me
>le see plane flying over le military base
>le formulate le ebin plan to get sicknasty army guns and sniper rifles
>le wait for plane to reach it before jumping
>oh shit 50 other ebin memers hatched the same plan
>oh shit 40 of us are going to die in the first 30 seconds and only 3 will survive 5 minutes of the military base black thursday looting spree

Yeah, you sure are a DUMB KEK who parachuted inna woods and scavenged isolated huts for your supplies to survive. Should be a real memer like me who dies in the first 30 seconds every round.
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is this another cookie cutter type of game that will stay on alpha/beta forever?
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>>173082389

>kar not number one

There is NOTHING more satisfying than headshotting a shitter with the kar and knowing he's smashing his keyboard against the wall IRL.
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holy shit, this was my best one yet, my adrenaline is still pumping

and it started off real fun too
>start in NE and immediately chute to shooting ranges
>see other player heading there as well
>we both land at the same time in two seperate ranges
>frantically look for a gun and find shotgun (the one with 5 rounds)
>load it, jump over the fence and kill him in 2 shots, he almost downed me with his shotty as well
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>>173082705
>picking a statistically inferior weapon
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>>173083357
>all the top players prefer the kar

rly mek u dink
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>>173083357

There's nothing more superior than styling all over shitters with the kar98.
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>>173079894
only when I land next to someone and a melee weapon is the first thing I see, three so far
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>>173081472
losing connection to server when you're in a really good position
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>>173072390
Oh I dont think its a good thing, I believe it's downright awful from an enthusiasts viewpoint
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>>173085254
adding even 2 more ammo types would make looting an annoying rngfest
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how many hours in do you git gud?
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>>173083457
>top players are streamers

really causes you to consider
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>>173082389
Even the dev said it, the M16 right now is the best weapon in the game(and it's going to get nerfed). It's perfect for long distance with very little recoil and if needed burst mode is basically like auto anyways
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>>173085820
>most guns come with 2-4 mags worth of ammo
>rngfest
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>>173086705
0.3
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https://youtu.be/v0gPIiHOdx8

I'll edit it better some other time but have this
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i have a question

can you loudly micspam while driving a truck

i want to drive around with my friends hunting naked people blaring punk and/or the convicts' song from dead rising
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>>173072390
Yeah, it'd be much cooler forcing players to make tough decisions like "hold onto Kar98k with no ammo and hope to find some 7.92, or ditch it for this UMP here with 90 rounds"
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This playerunknown mf thinks he's sid meier
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>>173089438

the ultimate life & death fight
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>>173089251
I think they're gently testing something like this, because after the last update I've found guns without accompanying ammo quite a few times.
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>shotgun some nigger on the roof of one of the apartments in the military base
>looting a kar98 off him
>hear footsteps
>look up
>nigga with a frying pan IN MY FACE
>one hit, half HP gone
>sprint and reload kar98
>second jump, flip around mid jump and headshot that nigger
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>>173089140
yes but anyone with a few brain cells has voice turned off
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I must vent my frustration from getting killed by unlucky positioning

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173091728
get gud
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I just lost a 1v1 for first place because the circle closed on a house and I got doorniggered

thanks third person mode
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>>173094643
>5 alive
>circle small as asian dick
>2 house buildings

DO YOU GO IN OR DO YOU PLAY OUTSIDE
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>>173096396
Wait were you in my game? Two two story buildings at the bottom of a hill?
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>>173096950
holy shit i think so. there was one red building and i forgot the other color
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Could it be...? A second win?
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>>173097454
>M249
If you dont win you're actually garbage
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>devs addressing the sound issues

Oh baby
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>>173097510

>tfw using a UAZ as mobile cover when the final circle closes
>tfw nobody dares shoot at it because they heard you gun down someone with your THUNDEROUS M249

I love the M249 so much, what a BEAST.
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>over relying on good sound from foot steps gun shots people think 3rd person "combat" is fine
I don't get it APB had the same deal and that was fucking awful
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>>173097890
>only 4 kills

You actually dont deserve the win.
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>>173101626
At least he can actually win, unlike you, shitter.
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God i must be fucking retarded but i'm givng this stupid fucking game a try. Every fucking fiber of my body tells me it's going to be shit and i'll end up refunding it but i'm so bored and want to shoot people.
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Allow dead players in solo to spectate the person that killed them with a 1 minute delay to prevent ghosting y/n?

I think it would be fun watching how far my murderer makes it.
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>>173101908

I really don't understand why we're not allowed to spectate after we die in solo or after our team dies in duo/quad. Sometimes I just want to see how shit plays out after I die but no, I can't see shit and am forced to quit.
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>>173101762
I already have two under my belt, faggot.
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>>173101762
Are you Felix's bottom bitch?
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>>173102463
Might be on discord with others in the same game, allows for ghosting.

A delay should be okay though, if you are limited to one player.
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I'm wondering what's the headshot/kill ratio of people here? I think it would be interesting to compare how people get kills. Mine is 0.344, which I think reflects a lot of close range kills with shotgun/UMP-spray.
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Its kinda hard to get a lot of kills (10+) in this game. Its hard to find people and there aren't that many opportunities beside the really early game and the really late game and even then guys may end up killing each other before you can get a piece of the action.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shsa2IrWM-4

made this earlier today
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>snipe someone hiding behind the buggy with the kar98

DAMN WOOOO. It was from one end of the bridge to the other too.

Does the Kar98 oneshot headshot someone even with level 3 headgear?
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>>173103705

If you're feeling suicidal and the plane is flying over/near the military base, go there. You pretty much need to kill 6-7 people minimum if you want to survive looting the military base when the plane passes it.
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>>173097510
Shroud was streaming today and called the M249 garbage

he had a fucking ACOG on it and was trying to tapfire from 200m, "I would have killed that guy with an M16 this gun sucks"
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>>173103823
Kek this happened to someone chasing me in a car chase too. He was in a buggy though and i was in the little blue car
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>>173103881
no level 3 will let you survive one headshot
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>>173103881

Tier 3 helmet is the only thing that stops one shot headshot kills.
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>>173104021
Sweet. I must have hit him one or two times before then.
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>tfw this game might actually be far better on consoles because everyone's graphic settings would be the same with no .ini shitters and nobody has pin point accuracy at 400 yards because aiming with sticks is a pain in the ass

I know it sucks to admit but sometimes the burden of the master race is just too high
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>>173103887
>You pretty much need to kill 6-7 people minimum
A lot of them end up taking out each other so I usually walk out with only 3 or 4 kills. In some games the base is largely empty because I guess everyone expects everyone else to go there so they avoid it.
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>>173104050
Actually the AWP will still ohk heads
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>>173104125
Foliage fuckery is a fixable problem though. Require an unmodified .ini to join online play, load settings from the server, and set minimum foliage to use shitty textures and sprites instead of getting rid of it.
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>when you're driving around in a UAZ with your teammate and another team in a dacia fucking FLIES over a cliff, landing behind you
>when the game suddenly turns into a fast and furious shitshow where both passengers are spraying at each other

>their guy shoots out one of our tires, we have to bail, and get gunned down

that was way too fun to get mad
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>>173104261
It is still, fundamentally, a race to the bottom overall.
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>>173104291
drive bys are pretty gangster
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>winner winner chicken dinner
What did they mean by this?
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skirts when
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>join game
>in da plane
>never eject
>never touch chute
>land with 3 or 4 AFK guys
>kill them all for gold shekels
ez money, I'm glad my computer is shit because I never would've found this out, the entire flight and drop beginning to touchdown is like 8 whole frames for me on a good day
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>>173104758
I dont know its fucking dumb though
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>>173094643
>not prefiring around corners
lmao
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>>173107715
>game still isn't FPV only
>game gives you enough ammo on the first gun you pick up to regularly prefire spots
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>finally make it to the top ten again
>have myself fully decked out in a good set of gear, radius moves to the classic field adjacent to a building and Im not in the building
>see one guy get mowed down on the field side of the field as I begin to get shot at as Im adjacent to the building behind a tree
>die to both of the last players shooting me down while they were sitting in the blue
I-i'll win one of these days
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>>173108134
i have somewhat the same problem, i wonder how those people are doing it i mean when i stay outside the blue when there are only 10 people left i die in 3 seconds so i always try to get into the white circle 3-5sec before the blue circle is moving but then i get gunned down by people on the edge of the blue it's so annoying

i have like 40 solo games played and not a single win and only 3 times 2nd place
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>>173106378

if you have a SSD, move the game to there. It increased my frames to playable and I was in the same boat as you.
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>>173108405
bring a car with you wherever you go. I won by killing the last guy when i ran him over
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So what can be done to improve end game scenarios?

>increase time between playable area resizes
>increase rarity of long range scopes
>have more options for employing smoke, especially at range
>unfuck grenade throwing so it's easier to throw it in buildings
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>>173109241
also

>reduce probability of end game taking place in open ass fields, increase probability of end game taking place in urban centers or interesting points on the map
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>>173109446
Everyone will just camp urban centers worse then
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>>173109620
Which is far better than some cuck ass sniper fight in the middle of an open field, no?

>urban fights result in better weapon variety being used
>emphasis on scopes and longer range weapons lowered
>shotguns and SMG's become viable again

Seems good to me?

Otherwise we should have a map that is largely an urban center.
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tfw 4 left alive
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>>173104758
>>173107561
>they don't know
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>>173110726
even after wasting 10 minutes of googling the meaning of that it still makes no sense.

it's just cringe, i'd prefer if they called rank1 something edgy like professional school shooter or something
>>
Being in the blue should be instant death when there is 20 left.
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>>173102690
>2 wins
Scrub tier. Come back when you have 10+ like me.
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>>173111695
I have a full time job and dont even play too often. Get a job you loser.
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>>173111216
It literally is just an old normie saying. That's it. It's a pre-internet meme.
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MILLIONTH FUCKING TIME I END UP GIVING FIRST PLACE BECAUSE I CANT SIT STILL

TIME FOR A FUCKING PIZZA BREAK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173112435
>caring about getting first place specifically
>not proud you are in the top 10% and consistently beating out shitters
>not using your failures as motivation to improve instead of hating yourself
>>
>drive car
>slow down to 10 mph
>get out
>die instantly
>12 remain alive
what the fuck?
>>
>PU has literally never mentioned the focus on re-balancing weapon spawn rates

So the UMP is just going to be forever useless then?
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>>173019171
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>>173110163
>>urban fights result in better weapon variety being used

you mean someone camping stairs with a shotgun?
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>>173115001
>>
>>173081472
getting teamkilled in squads after their 3 man team lost 2 of their shitters in 5 minutes.. so they convince the 3rd to kill me for my guns.
NORMIES PLS GO
>>
Second place is nothing to be proud of. It just means someone else is better than you.
>>
>>173089679
That means the ammo's already been looted
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>>173115083
Ubisoft is quality
>>
>been sitting in same room for entire game
>last 30
lmao
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Just a couple of hard hittin' niggas patrolling their turf.
>>
>>172896534

solo is straight up easier to win, winning team takes way more skill
>>
>>173116257
WE
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>>173028627

I won a game with a smoke grenade, I knew where the guy was and smoked him so he couldn't see where I was coming from and he tried to leave the smoke and I deleted him.

Smokes are fucking amazing in the 1v1 for win
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>>173034491

my man
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>>173117109
I mean in the same situation you could've just thrown a frag grenade, couldnt you have
>>
>>173079894

I've punched a few people to death, but generally speaking melee kills are not worth the effort and are just an excuse to get yourself killed
>>
>>173096396

never go inside buildings that late because if one person has molotovs or frags you're basically giving them the win
>>
>>173097890

it's good at close range and I have won a game with it, but trying to use it like an AR will get you killed, ARs will net you more wins
>>
>>173117395

no, the spread on a frag is not as large as a smoke. Frags have a tiny explosion radius, smoke is almost 4 times the range
>>
rate my cheeki breeki
>>
>get in the duvica
>slap on eurobeat
>start sliding around in full speed almost tipping in every corner

NOONE SLEEP IN TOKYO
>>
holy shit the m24 is LOUD as fuck it feels so sexy to snipe people with
>>
>>173115001
>>173115462
two games which were in heavy rotation for big streamers, paid by "streamer partnerships" with ubisoft. similar to this game. This is our fate.
>>
>dev: footstep sounds will be fixed in the next patch

wut
>>
>>173088445
you died too slowly for what your video's going for

it doesn't really work unless you die before landing, just as/after you land or you get absolutely annihilated like running around for a bit and finding a pistol like in your video but then getting mowed down by 3 different people all with automatics.
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The area damage is rediculous

>>173120258
they sound like the person is outside when they are right next to you
>>
>>173088445
>not adding retards on the plane scream "CHINA NUMBA 1"
"NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER"
"CHINA NUMBA FO "
"NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER"
"ALLAH ACKBAR"
>>
>tfw supressed uzi on a rainy map
who /mossad/ cqb here
>>
can you shoot through walls or was that lag
>>
>>172983517
sauce ?
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>>173113542
id's like real live xd
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>FIRST EVER FUCKING WIN
>WITH THE GODDAMN AWM BABY
>8x SCOPE + AWM = YOU"RE ALREADY FUCKING DEAD

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>173114256
With all attachments it's useful as a short range secondary to win fights in/around buildings, if you're not a shotgun person
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>>173125502
but what benefit does it provide over rifles?

Explain to me a situation where I would be better off having a UMP9 as a secondary, as opposed to a second rifle?
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>>172883953
I make top ten and never loot after I get what i need. I always catch you guys coming out of your buildings and make it an easy top 5 left after that.
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>>172899042
>Literally
>a retard

https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/comments/633wt8/there_is_always_someone_in_the_hills/
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>>173126121
shit sorry meant the post under you
>>
>>172990098
"Doesn't understand tactics" - The Post
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>>172992769
Your a weakling, its 100% your fault if you die. Only the weak don't take responsibility and blame other things.
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>>173061342
I like the sound and understand it, I hope they don't nerf it for the retards who don't understand how to think on a 3 dimensional plane.
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>>173125576
Short range and you're bad at aim, so the higher RoF lets you actually land more damage spraying than a lower RoF rifle.
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>>173127559
So it's pretty bad except for a hyper specific skill range in hyper specific scenarios

Gotcha
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>>173126607
The problem isn't the whizz-bang, gunshot with speed of sound delay stuff.

It's that the left right balance is broken, in real life if a gun is fired on your right, you still hear it in your left ear, just not as loud.

As it is now in game, you hear it only in the right ear, nothing at all in the left ear, which really throws you off because it doesn't sound right with how your brain works.
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>>173128249
All that said, 9mm is pretty abundant, so it may also be that it's the only gun you have ammo for/more than one mag. Sadly in the 9mm class, the Uzi beats is pretty hard, if you have attachments. If both had no attachments I'd take the UMP, but normally I'm falling over Uzi stocks when I loot.
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>jump out of plane and go for severny
>1 other guy jumps there with me, lands 2 seconds earlier than i do
>he walks into the first house, loots an m16 and shoots me as soon as i land

gg wp
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>bump car into something
>gunshot sound and lose health

man i still freak out every time

why would there be a gunshot sound when you crash into something?
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>its a drop into a far away city and then cant find any vehicles so you run from the circle for like 10 minutes straight and then die

hella fuckin epic
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>>173129865
>land in rozhok
>9/10 times within the first circle
>currently guaranteed dacia spawn there
>good loot almost always
>can easily oversee rest of town
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