/svg/ - Shadowverse General

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We must secure the existence of our forest!

Some very unhealthy problems ive noticed in this game. I've been playing card games for 20 years (lot of magic and hearthstone) and i would like to highlight some aspects i dont really like in this game.
>game feels artificially short due to nearly autowin cards at certain turns for every craft
>nearly everything played past turn 4 gets removed
>there is an insane amount of burn, but theres also an insane amount of healing. The healing is restricted to dragon, heaven, and sometimes forest but no one else had access to healing. Making burn damage seem ridiculously strong.
>it appears raw stats isnt good in this game. The card has to have some immediate game changing affect to even see play.
>there are some extremely annoying decks which i would even call not fun to play against that i seem to encounter in nearly everygame. Ramp dragon ramps up to 10pp by at least turn 7 while insanely healing nearly every turn, shit like bahamut zell is fucking ridiculous. End of the turn healing and the boardclear they have is out of control.
>aggro shadowcraft floods the board with followers then plays a card which gives them all last wards summon a skeleton, then they play a 2pp card with ambush and suicide their 1/1s to buff it up to an 8/8 by turn 5. Or their boardflood kills you, phantom howl. So many ways to die in a turn.
Dont really think this is the game to me, i tried playing a control sword deck and got to A rank but this expansion the game really doesnt seem any fun.

We already had this OP!

Azazel is the secret tier 0 this expansion.

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Play Havencraft.

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>>172743484
What color are Arisa's panties?

>>172743523
Sorry if the image is the same, I made it in a hurry, and just picked one semi-randomly

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF834syGfOk
https://twitter.com/para_chan_/status/848093300875591680

Suicide Aggro Blood Deck.

Seems very interesting.

>>172743484
>>>/mlpol/

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Diversity is the code word for elf genocide

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I love my cute and pure wife Unica so much!

>>172743521
fuck you swordbb at the end of expansion everyone will be playing sword again like in all expansions

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Why is Forest the least played craft even though it has a ridiculous 55% winrate on syadoreco, second only to Shadow? Is it because everyone fucking hate elves?

>>172743521
>card game designed for casual mobile players

not sure what you expected

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>"OMG, dragon,blood, and haven so op!!"
>"shadow? yea it's okay i guess lol"
>"forest is fucking dead LMAO"
really makes me think

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Describe her in 3 words or less

>>172743653
WTF is Forest's deck to get that win%?

>>172743653
wow, these day 3 stats sure prove you right!

>>172743484

And the future for what?

>>172743521
>>it appears raw stats isnt good in this game. The card has to have some immediate game changing affect to even see play.
So every TCG/CCG in the past 20 years? Stats mean fuckall unless the thing lives long enough to use them.

>>172743642
Isnt this game having a 10 thousand dollar tournament? Geez i feel really bad for the people entering it

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>>172743637
It's because the playerbase are filled with netdecking morons who think Ivy Spellbomb is "too expensive" even though they were perfectly happy with their netdecked Demonic Strike in an aggro deck.

It's the thinking man's craft. Without a handbook telling them how to do an OTK, they don't know how to balance card advantage, board presence and tempo swing to take advantage of its powerful tools.

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Why you guys don't cry more?

even daria have more bbs bitchin in the thread

>>172743521
Nice pasta.

>>172743732

Noticed that it is the least played class. There are only forest experts playing right which is why it artificially increases the winrate.

On the other hand Dragon's win rate is diluted by all the unga players who migrated.

>>172743789
>dragon players are ESLs

Actually makes a lot of sense

>>172743681
Skank.

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>post yfw someone says Forestcraft is dead

>>172743637
wolfbolt is not easy to play

>>172743809
the problem with this reasoning is that is assumes
A) dragon takes more thought than the other crafts
B)this somehow doesn't apply to shadow

>>172743809
Dragon's winrate is probably due to people not being able to afford all the cards they should run in the deck

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>>172743848

>>172743823
Pls bitch like you did with yurius

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Tell me blood players. Do you have enough snakes?

>>172743809
Pretty much this, forest didnt get any op shit so the netdeck niggers arent playing it right now.

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>>172743772
Swordbros!
Gawain will be up tomorrow. ARE YOU READY TO BE TIER 1 AGAIN?
PEPE IS PUSHING US FROM BEHIND, AND GAWAIN WILL KEEP US UP TOP.

HONESTCRAFT, BEST CRAFT!

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>>172743848

>>172743653
Forest will forever and always be t1 or high t2 as long as roach and ancient elf exists. Anyone who says otherwise sucks at the class or is trying to play control or tempo.

>>172743142
see, this is exactly why aggro is better than midrange.
the only real difference is that midrange gives the opponent more breathing room.

i don't really see the point of it besides spawning spooky meme skeletons (which is fun). i'd rather build a control deck.

Gawain won't do jackshit
sword will be tier3

>>172743809
this. people go "look, dragon and shadow are op now!" so the bandwagoners start playing those crafts.

also, syadoreco has 2 different dragon decks, one called "midrange(ramp)dragon" at 47% winrate and "saha ramp" at 56% winrate.

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i want to make a big family with Lou!

I'm sick of these motherfucking snakes in this motherfucking game

>>172743995
Sukuna and Beetle are hidden top tier forest cards. Well Beetle is pretty obvious but people don't understand how Sukuna works so she's underestimated.

>>172744024
>or tempo
Are you implying tempo isn't the reason roach works? Who's playing OTK roach?

>>172743901

This does apply to shadow, which shows how strong the catacomb is. Just a single card can save the entire deck. Midrange is super good too with comrade Hector.

Dragon needs more thoughts to play than aggro shadow shadow for sure.

>>172743918

Good point. I should've thought about that. And at the same time those who are running forest, since they are the tryhard forest-only type they should have most of the forest cards, and this expansion added not much to the existing decks.

>>172744034
midrange shadow beats aggro shadow btw
death's breath + zombie party leave them little chance

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>>172743653
Gonna say it again.

SELF REPORTED STATS DOESNT MEAN SHIT.

There are lots of unoptimized dragon deck in ranked making the class winrate worse. There are also lots of ramp dragon variant. Some list don't run Saha, some list don't run zell and some don't run Forte.

If you think Forest is actually better than Dragon this expansion simply because of self reported win-rate you're fucking delusional.

>>172743653
seems bout right, playd over 150 dragon games since expac and its not as broken as people think.

>>172744121
b-but I went on ladder and got roached once in 100 games!

>>172744094
Forest's good cards are at Silver and Bronze in this expac.

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Never underestimate pepe, he can become an unattackable t5 7/6 before you blink while the boards spammed with lecias

Should I put Arriet in my Aegis?

>>172744121
Dragon has bad winrate on Master, too.

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>Without a handbook telling them how to do an OTK, they don't know how to balance card advantage, board presence and tempo swing to take advantage of its powerful tools.
Checks out

>>172744170
>150 matches in 3 days

i call bullshit

>>172744121
>There are lots of unoptimized dragon deck in ranked making the class winrate worse
The problem with this reasoning is that these unoptimized decks are going up against other unoptimized decks.

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>>172744065
"Lou"? That's got to be short for something.

>>172744121
Forest bugs dumpster all over Dragon sorry bb

>>172744170
NO IT'S FUCKEING BORKING BECAUSE /SVG/ SAID SO JUST LIKE YURIUS STILL BEING THE CANCER OF THE GAME CYGAMES KILLED THE GAME OMG I CAN'T UNGA ANYMORE

>>172744082

I've tried both. I like beetle more. It is like a poor man's Albert. To make sukuna work you need 1. plays 3 cards (not that hard) and 2. an evo point which usually means its effect won't go off as easily. I'll stick with Liza for now, but beetle definitely an auto include for tempo.

>>172744241
im a neet, all ive done since expac launched is play shadowverse all day

Does Banish work against Aegis?

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>>172743484
elves master cuterace

>>172744238
What's your point?

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>>172744198
even if you can question how good tarzan is, this gal is gold and is one of their best cards for this expansion

>>172743521
>>game feels artificially short due to nearly autowin cards at certain turns for every craft
actually it's the opposite for me. in the beginning it felt weird, but eventually it started becoming really natural.

because the cards actually get exponentially stronger with their cost. to the point that 10pp are outrageously broken cards. it does make sense imo.

>it appears raw stats isnt good in this game.
t.20 years of game experience

are you the kind of guy who never plays aggro? you should, because the game allows for a variety of tempo, which i really like

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Nothing feels better than crushing commies with the power of capitalism.

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>>172744250
I dusted 2 animated lous and the 3 normal ones i pulled from packs and used them to make JO pendants, kill yourself runeshit.

>>172744240
forest players are literally retarded, serves that idiot right

>>172744238
It's not like he's wrong I saw dragon players who didn't even had Sybil in masters too.

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Luna is a

>>172744343
who the fuck was talking to you

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>>172744065
>tfw she is the nurses' student assistant on penis inspection day

>>172744373
or they didn't drew her

>>172744296

Tarzan and Aerin are both good, but cannot fit in tempo and otk. Verdant is better than Tarzan for tempo while you can't fit in Aerin in control list. Tarzan may be good in control though.

>>172744119
death's breath is an issue but it can be played around.
>zombie party
pls, pretty much irrelevant vs aggro, no better than undying resentment.

>midrange shadow beats aggro shadow btw
>implying

>>172744257
You got Sukuna kinda wrong.

She has 2 ways to activate:

1. If she's on board and alive - Play 3 cards and evolve her. She goes 6/6 easily.

2. If she's on your hand - Play 3 cards INCLUDING HER, in any order, then evolve. That's a 6/6 rush.

Yeah I know it's limited with evolve. But she can act as a mini ward to those that understand how she works.

>>172744383
mammoth lover

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>>172744395
Kill yourself runeshit

>>172744281
Nothing other then attack/defense manipulation works on Aegis.

>9pp+evo 10/10 rush heal 4 hp deal 2 damage to all enemies
What the fuck is this bullshit? She does literally everything and leaves unkillable body, that can nuke more aoes, so shes kind of a ward aswell.

>>172744383
qt

>>172744439
aerin can fit just nicely, instead of fairy beast which was not uncommon in rob

>>172744439
Tarzan fits just fine in tempo. Vedant might give you two elves for one less attack but it can't automatically win you the game if they stalled it long enough to reach turn 10.

>>172743653
>rune
>41.6
I don't even care about "who's best", I'm just glad that cancer is in the garbage.

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>>172743552
thanks for the advice. I'll start with shadow and look out for those cards.

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>now that they are in the gutter, forestfuckers actually think they are the thinking class

Priceless. Can't wait for you guys to come up with a deck to save its hide.

>>172744484
>why is 9pp strong
what next, you will cry about Aegis?

>>172744296
Aerin is amazing, but does not fit Tempo.

I'd still choose Warden over Verdant in Tempo. But Tia might still work really.

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>>172743586
>Q.ディーラないです、代わりはいますか?
>A.いません。生成してください!
I regret dusting my Meme Dealers now

>>172744484
Just themis or lightning blast her, bro. You should already know that dragon and haven are the only viable classes.

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HEAR

>>172744417
Maybe. That still doesn't change that I saw a lot of budget decks.

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>>172744383
cute!

>>172744484
and dragon drops her on turn 7 :^)

balancedcraft

>>172744484
>dies to dod
?

>>172743628
cute

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>>172744464
i'm forest you retard

ayyy all these greedy dragon players who lost at t6 because of albert and storm

>>172744553
>ToG actually revives some of the old legendaries

The fuck is this shit? That deck is scary as fuck.

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>>172744484
>9pp
>games getting to t9

>>172744546
Sorry sweetie, but Forest was the high-IQ class even when it was #1.

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>>172744383
glorious patriot

>>172744549
i meant otk

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>>172743586
>Requires meme dealers
Too bad I have everything else.

>>172744675
>backed by soccermom and other broken shits
>high-IQ class

Whatever. Go back to humping to trees.

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>>172744546
>highest winrate
>"in the gutter"
what did he mean by this?

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>>172744690
>implying luna isn't glorious Nazi who forces dead jews to do her bidding through necromancy

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>>172744643
>runeshits ashamed
You should be faggot

>>172744453

I know how she works. I've using her for quite some time. I just find that she die more easily than Liza and a 6/6 rush is just not that impressive. Also I am always saving evo point for EPM as a tempo player.

>>172744518

If they stall it long enough you've already lost the game. Aegis Baha Ouro Sneks are all on the board. 2 taunt would do nothing. Sometimes you can kill them with the storm but winning early is more reliable and 2 additional fairies helps a lot.

>>172744508

Aerin can fit in control for sure, just not tempo, as I said.

>>172744772
technically second highest

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Best tits in the game?

>>172744765
Soccermom is a skill testing card

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>>172744826
No

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>>172744690

Walfrid is already taking the fight to the commies and Gawain isn't even out yet.

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>>172744826
Forte pleases black dragons for money.

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Fighting is so crude
Fighting is so sorrowful

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Lou vs. Enchanted Libary dickshift
Stay tuned for the resolution of this heated debate.

>>172744791
>If they stall it long enough you've already lost the game.
No.
I didn't.
Because I have Jungle Warden, which wins me the game.
Do you see how that works.

>Sometimes you can kill them with the storm but winning early is more reliable and 2 additional fairies helps a lot.
The two fairies are redundant next to the other fairy generators in your deck. Jungle Warden has a more unique role in that it can actually WIN you the game on its OWN.

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>>172744826
ez

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>>172744896
Is Forte racist?

>>172744546

We are receiving nothing good this expansion compare to the insane things other classes got. And we still can manage to get a hold on positive winrate just by sheer calculations and combo.

Forest is and has always been the hardest to play class.

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>>172744896
she is not a whore, they are just having fun!

So is Aegis nerfed yet?

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>>172744789
okay you responded to the wrong person and can't admit it due to your autism and you know what, i respect your mental disability. have a pleasant day.

>>172744240
kek

>>172744791
>I know how she works. I've using her for quite some time. I just find that she die more easily than Liza and a 6/6 rush is just not that impressive. Also I am always saving evo point for EPM as a tempo player.

Makes sense, since Liza easily saves you from stupid spell stuff except for haven stuff before Turn 10. I understand this reasoning.

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>What i want is like gold to me!

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>>172744995
Does Vampy please her bloodkin for fun as well?

>>172745043
Kys dubcuck

>>172744916

You are probably right. I'll try him later in the tempo deck. Still I don't like replacing Verdant because with beetles now that the deck needs even more fairies.

Does Owlcat have room in 2pp lineups of any decks?

>>172745043

Never has a summon dialogue forced me to masturbate so furiously.

>>172744907
lou goes to a library :3

also isn't library common in dshift nowadays? i saw at least 2 decks with it

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>>172745070
She'd get bullied if she didn't.

hey can we merge with /hsg/ as like an april fools joke like the board merges xD

/cuteboy/ LEADER PACK WHEN

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>top 3 of Nexus tournament had 2 Midrange sword decks

Dead craft amirite?

>>172745101
library is shit unless you can play it on T2, absolutely unnecessary in dshit deck

>>172745070
there is even a douji

>>172745118

Not really because people can just create another thread. There however is getting more butthurt and more blizzshills than usual.

>>172745076
Look I mean it's entirely possible I'm just trying to avoid buyer's remorse since I crafted three of him, I'll readily admit that.

But it's also a reality that he saved my ass on several occasions and that he's worth a shot as long as you're not too greedy and can recognize when it's worth holding him for turn 10 and when it's better just to have the big body.

I can dust third satan right

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New poll vote on SVG official mascot

http://www.strawpoll.me/12652357

>>172745234
Dust all three, t10 do nothing will never be good again if the game keeps progressing like this

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/SVG/, IS THE KHAWY DEPICTED IN THIS CARD A MALE OR FEMALE?
I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE REASONS

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>>172744907
Best girl stronk.

>>172745101
Libary doesn't spellboost your cards. Libary would be nice in a deck that needs carddraw and has few key spells that you need to draw (since it only draws spells) in a deck with mostly minions. Pretty much useless here.

Lou is great since it's a mini Merlin, meaning that you can cut the latter and free up evo points for Levi. You can also bounce her up and down and get her off a bunch, if you are playing another fedoracore deck that won't give you anything for Kaleidoscopic Glow.

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>shadowbabs

>>172745239
Owlcat is reddit tier shit.

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>>172745239
this guy is awesome

>>172745360
can be either is you ask nicely

Tried OTK Bishop for a while.

It's fine against slow decks but in AggroLunaVerse you're just asking to die on turn six.

What a shame.

>>172745393
BALANCU

>>172743772
No one played demonic strike in elf you retard

>>172744923
>>172744826
2big

>Play combo
>Opponent is control blood with le balanced amulet of damage immunity
>Play control
>Opponent is blood with le balanced Baphomet, Azazel, Laura, Angelic Snipe combo
>Play aggro
>Opponent is control blood with le balanced cards of healing and removal


I said it during RoB, and I'll say it again. Blood is the ultimate cancer class and if its popular then Shadowverse is not worth playing.

>>172745360
That's a bishounen.

>>172745463

Just Thermis it bro.

>implying a more aggressive Frogcraft isn't tier 0

Aggro bats vs Red Army shadow, who wins?

>>172743732
I assume Bolt would be good against Dragon and Haven who stay near max health all game. I dont know how good roach is. Theres a fuckton of wards.

>>172745525
aggro shadow always beats aggro blood, one of the worst matchups for blood

>>172745506

>Mfw sword is not even out yet and they are already recovering

>>172744094
>Dragon needs more thoughts to play than aggro shadow shadow for sure.
and yet anons keep complaining about how aggro shadow doesn't work for them.
dragon doesn't need much more thought than any other control deck.

>>172745438
I figured it's a bit of a meme.

The only Haven decks that seem worth running are either Pure Aegis or a Seraph Aegis mix, both of which just die to D-Shift.

Is Cerberus the best all All around Lego? I've never seen her being useless

>>172745525
I won all my games versus aggro blood as skelly shadow. Sample size is too small to say for sure though.

I need cheap deck for shadow (never played that class) to finish quests.

>>172745615
ancient elf

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>There are people who unironically defend jungle warden

>>172745457
he's talking about blood dumbfuck

>Getting a seraph win against a dragon with zero countdown cards
Heh, outskilled

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>pretty much bricked
>spellboost anyway
>vampy quits at full HP

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Post cosplay

>>172745589
albert sword is pretty nice too

probably needs some fangblades tho

>>172744916
How many games has Tarzan actually won you

Is Seraph dead?

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This smug motherfucker is one of the best cards tog gave. It eats skeletons too.

>>172745709
>piercing rune in 2017

>>172745686
themis then aegis face

ez

>>172745694
And his point is completely retarded because he's comparing expensive burn as a finisher in an aggro deck to expensive burn that requires you to burn low cost cards in a combo deck, you tard.

>>172745709
sometimes the thought of getting dshifted disgusts her so much that vampy just can't take it.

>>172745686
>there are people complaining about the 6% class

>Guy drops a fresh Pepe
>My Orthus murders him
lmao

>>172745686
Compare Jungle Warden to Grimnir and tell me who isn't stupid as fuck OP when you compare them.

>>172745584
Shit. At least if dragon bricks I have a chance.

Poor bats, they didnu nuffin wrong.

>>172745239
>No lou
>RedditCat 2nd place
is shit desu

>>172745791
>2 mana 4 damage
>not good

>>172745639
i lost all my games as skelly shadow vs aggro blood (1game)

what kind of reasoning is it

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>tfw ambush sword is actually viable now

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>>172745686
>there are people who unironically defend a good card
sorry if it's too expensive for you to craft bb

>>172745767
Either as a solid midgame ward to protect my board or with his storm after I used up my hand to push roach damage? A lot.

>>172745746
This girl isn't nearly enough curvy to pull off Isabelle. Tits too small too.

>>172745851
>2 mana 2 damage removal
>good in dshift

>>172745030
Im sure runeshitter.

>>172745607
Yesterday's meme can be tomorrow's meta.

Give Haven some 1PP heal spell, a bit of extra support and watch it be T1. Potential is there.

Is bloodbat completely dead?

>>172745851
t. D0

>>172745525
if by red army you mean midrange then i'm not sure.
aggro vs aggro should be shadows win rn.

>>172745919
Even dirtrune uses it. Runefags sometimes can't think.

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Who'd win in a slap fight between Elf Queen and Vampire Queen?

>>172745686
JUST of the Jungle

>>172745963
fuck we have too much heal already in this game

>>172745798
Ivy Spellbomb is better than Demonic Strike because it's removal AND burn. It's a mini dance of death when you don't want to waste your dance of death on the evolved Forte.

I know you spent a lot of time theorycrafting how bad the card is before the expac released but it doesn't compare with actual experience.

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>>172745758

Fangblade Roland is a great combo, when gawain drops it'll make RolandAlfrid combo also viable

>>172745919
Suggest something better.
It's a cheap and good spell.

>>172745989
More like t. Master.

Can anyone post the every pictues of Erika with her princess?


I accidentally Deleted it AAAH

>>172745769
Actually, not dead.

>finally hit the weekend
>time to test out new decks and face off against the hot new cancers!
>Daria
>Daria
>Albertcraft
>Daria
>Elena-Lucifer
>Albertcraft
>Bat aggro


So nothing has changed

Albert is still too strong, Daria is still too strong, Levi is still too strong

>>172746003
What?

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>sword is dead

Albertcraft is the same shit as it always was, at least at AA2.
inb4 demonic brick
I run 2 because I felt like I always needed that extra 3 damage to finish off the game.

>>172746094
Sorry you're stuck in B rank I guess.

What does DShift cut for Lous?

>>172746034
>requires 5PP unless using 0PP fairies
>mini DoD

Might as well cut the pretense and just use DoD.

>>172746074
*lightning blasts*

>>172746030
1PP heal face for 1 won't ruin you're precious meta.

>>172746034

It can't hit face. 3 mana 3 damage is so shit. Control doesn't need the card, and it is too expensive for tempo.

I'd fuck grimnir desu

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>aegis fucks ramp
>banish fucks shadow
>tribunal/themis fucks pepe
we should all set aside our differences and unite against the true enemy

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Okay, so new expansion out, let's see if Erika got nerfed in arena a litt- Nope, never mind, still as stronk as ever.

>>172746178
Ramp into Odin or ramp into Blast, same risk.

You need a different Seraph deck, but it can do well agin dragon.

>>172746154
I was playing unranked, rank-caller shitters are usually C rank from my experiences

Whats the hot new cancer in C rank my friend?

>>172746163
Merlin. It's unfortunate but running both will cause you to mill.

They also serve similar roles but Lou is more versatile. She can be kaleidoscopes to burn them when here dead and doesn't require an evo

>>172746135
The usual aggro sword is still viable it's disgusting. I actually believed /svg/ when they said it doesn't work at all anymore. But when my missions came and I had no choice but to do Sword, I won fucking 5 straight games against Aggro Shadow, Ramp Drago, Snek Blood, etc.

>>172746097
PR in dirtrune just strikes as a bad choice for me. The damage is meager and the only thing you want to spellboost is Fate's Hand.

>>172746176
>Dance of Death
>And miss the chance to put two fairies on the board
>Make you spend less cards per turn even though you want to use lots of cards per turn if you need to remove something to push a Roach to face
At that point it can't even be compared, using Ivy Spellbomb is just better.
Turn 6 Ivy+Bomb with two 0 cost fairies is an obscene swing as well.

>>172746207
>It can't hit face.
Unless you fulfill its obscenely easy condition sure.

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>>172746004
Vampire of course
She looks like a total bitch

>>172746220
>"fucks" ramp and shadow
>barely positive winrate (if at all)

nice try

>>172746052
I want to lick these armpits.

>>172746382
>Unless you fulfill its obscenely easy condition sure.

With 5 mana I would just beetle and hit face for 5.

>>172746220
>guardian sun fucks forest
>seraph fucks a lot of different decks


Haven honestly counters most decks in the game unless they brick

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>>172746135

>ever trusting /svg/

Sword is alive as ever

>>172746382
Can that Ivy Bomb blow up that GMD like DoD? No? Here's your answer.

It's been 3 days, is old faggot Zeus actually useful for something?

Traditionally, I've been against playing aggro decks in card games like this, but Cygames' bullshit moneymaking schemes is making me want to double down on aggro so hard.

Shadowverse is becoming a game where you just pack 3x of a bunch of powerful high-cost legendaries in your deck and you got two ways to play against that shit.

1.) Play an equal bullshit 15+ legendary deck and experience the OH SO exciting gameplay of throwing Bahamuts back and forth at each other to destroy the board and threaten lethal.

2.) Kill the faggot before he can get to his late-game.

I think it's quite clear what you oughta be doing.

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>>172746295
It's all skeletons and dragons in Masters, buddy. You'll find out once you get there.

>>172746440
Sure ignore the Sybil healing three at the end of every turn or the big midgame ward follower, that's a brilliant idea.

>>172743374
someone post a good snek deck please

>heal
>ward
>heal
>ward
>test of strength
>aegis
>test of strength
wow nice game shadowbabs

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>>172746135
Sword is stronk

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>>172746518

>>172746493
Yeah I'm installing Hearthstone now

>>172746356
It was pretty good in RoB. Spellboosting wasn't the concern, it was more so that you didn't just die to the enemy board if you got off to a slow start.

No idea how it is in ToG though, I've given up on the deck

>>172746506
>Sure ignore the Sybil healing three at the end of every turn or the big midgame ward follower, that's a brilliant idea.

Ivy can't kill sybil.

>>172746343
so how many of each? or is merlin gone completely?

>>172746493
OMG YOU ARE A GENIUS who would know that you can beat a RAMP DECK killing it fast and holy fuck with an aggro deck.

we have a new newton here

>>172746458
Well the biggest threat to midrange sword is maelstrom blood and it's been pushed slightly out of favor by lightningcraft and themiscraft.

Huh, didn't know Catacomb's effect stack

>>172746460
>Can that Ivy Bomb blow up that GMD like DoD?
No, but it lets you save your DoD to use against big followers instead of wasting it on lower-health midgame followers that stop you from going face.

So how do I build frog? I am lacking Lecias and shadow and haven are bullying my pepes.

I'm playing just with 2 frontlines.

Most of the matches I lose are because I was lacking something like 2/3 damage to lethal and I just couldn't pull put the last spit of damage to win. What can I do to solve this? This deck is so fun and actually looks like it could be meta, but I'm too stupid and poor to create the ultimate pepe frog.

>>172746669
> sword is maelstrom blood
how if they do nothing at the first 6 turns

>>172746591
It evo-traded into your four attack Princess Elf Mage, of course it can.

That's what makes Ivy better in the midgame than DoD, it lets you take tempo back by removing, dealing face damage, and also being cheap enough to populate the board at the same time.

>>172746714
>Most of the matches I lose are because I was lacking something like 2/3 damage to lethal

Add Demonic Strike.

>>172743653
So what version of Elf are people playing? Tempo?

I just got support cannoned. Jesus that is terrifying.

Make fucking sure you guys have at least one big follower at turn 5 against sword. If they drop one support cannon you are fucked.

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How does one survive in this meta?

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>7 match win streak in ranked

Holy fuck i love this dick

Anyone got an aggro sword list?

I need it to test a thing.

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Minthe is hot fucking garbage until they change her effect to reduce all necromancy costs in your hand to 0 when played instead of her current horrible effect that requires her to stick on the board for atleast a turn or play the necromancy cards in the same turn, which isn't viable because Minthe is 4pp

>>172746770
I wouldn't say mask of black death is nothing.
turn 4 evolved righteous after turn 3 blood moon as well.

once he gets the snakes out you have no way of regaining the board in time for him not to lethal.

>>172746942
what you're suggesting is more broken than daria

>can deliver the lethal next turn
>opponent drops test of Strength lmao

Who thought making this card a low cost card was a good idea?

>>172746562
what's your rank

>>172746890
just don't play saha ramp?

is this too hard of a concept for you to grasp?

>>172746882
I pulled off Roland Cannon in T2, a thing of beauty.

>>172746942
You already have Eachtar. Let her be a meme desert rider.

>>172746858
Make sure to put 10 copies of Ivy Bomb in!

>>172746942
She gives Shadowcraft burst that the deck was lacking before. You idiot.

Turn10 Minthe Great Tyrant to swing for 13 damage.

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>>172747021
>>172746540
>>172746583
fucking swordbbs and forestfags are shaking

>tfw 1k master score
Only shadow gives me problems
Fuck prince catacomb

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so how i beat heavenly aegis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3u71r76e0

>>172747015
Realized that after I submitted it.

Try and come up with something more balanced.

Even then, her current effect is garbage - she's by far the worst legendary of TotG

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Guys, I think Capitalism Sword might be more than just a meme.

>>172747059
This but unironically.

Remember, the people who shit on it are the same kind of people who laughed at the 1-damage ping angels being added to Sword.

>>172747078
>Turn10

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>>172747023
A2

>>172746812
Oh shit you might actually be right.

I'll be testing out just how hard my bricks are, will report later unless I die.

>>172747110
What are you running?

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>i'm now in the position to make one of 3 decks
>can't decide
which one out of dirt, aegis and the commies?

>>172747078
You could Tyrant combo with Midnight Haunt on turn 9, or play Tyrant on curve at 6 if you played Haunt on 5 and had 7 shadows, which isn't unlikely

>>172747089

Good luck passing through ToS Aegis with your 60k vials deck

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>>172746942
She could have just given us 10 shadow as a fanfare and would be good enough. But then this dude would be crying in the corner.

>>172746562
You don't get how snek decks work don't you?

>>172746890
Don't play the Saha version.

>>172747262
Good lucky swinging this albert against all my healing effects

>>172746629
0 merlin
2-3 Lou

>>172747232
Forget about rune and flip a coin.

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>>172747267
I sure don't.

>>172747232
dirt is for losing, aegis is fine but commie has the best winrate

are any master players using snek

if so can anyone post their deck

>>172746714
Take out front lines and add well of destiny instead, the health is very worth it and the most the opponent can do if youre playing the deck right is clear your field to just pepe, if they hit your face and ignore your followers they are signing their death warrant. well combined with this deck and all the buff cards is lethal, pepe can be all sit and chill one turn and all of a sudden hes 9/6 the next turn youve got lecia down and they havent got anything to remove him with.

>>172746562
>aggro please rape my ass: the deck
tech in some fucking healing or wards

>>172747326

>A2

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>>172747232
Dirt is shite now and Aegis gets fucked by the mass of aggro in ladder.

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Uh, police?

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>>172747232
there's always room for one more, comrade

>>172747394
That's what the Mask is for.

>>172747125
>They told me I could be anything, so I became FUCKING INVINCIBLE.

>>172747232
shadow is by far the most fun deck of the three

don't even think of making dirt anymore, it's terrible

>turn 1 skull beast
>turn 2 2/2
>turn 3 catacomb
>turn 4 orthrus
>turn 5 wind god
Is it even possible to beat this?

>>172747436
DELET THIS

>>172747504
change that 2/2 to sexton and nope :^)

>>172747470
you need more than mask
spiderweb imp, veight, grimnir, vamp kiss are all good options

>>172746942


Anomaly is fucking garbage until they change her effect to every hit on the enemy leader by any follower when played instead of her current horrible effect that requires her to stick on the board for at least a turn, which isn't viable because Anomaly is 8pp and noe Aegis effect.

>>172747504
If you go first, yes

>>172747556
I actually wonder why I never see aggro Shadow players use Sexton. I cuck Haven decks so hard with that one card.

>>172747504
>Sylvan Justice
>May+Nature's Guidance+May again
>Ancient Elf + May again
And you don't have to worry about the rest because they conceded by this point.

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>>172747401
It still works.

>>172747504
Killing most of the followers before they stuff skeletons inside.

Then again, most dumbfucks don't get it anyway.

Why is everyone playing the same fucking deck in unranked
I just want to win a few games as haven
FUCK

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>>172746518
Wait for the jap lords to figure out the optimal deck desu. Nobody, including myself, has actually figured out a good snake deck yet.

>>172747526
he actually deleted it the madman

>>172746942
Or they could just introduce a low pp cost card that gives ambush

Something like dead moon disciple would work

>>172747504

Candle + death amulet

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Can we get 9M downloads event soon, cykikes? I need my free packs.

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Anyone got a good snake deck I could look at?

>>172747610
the problem is

if shadow goes first they're guaranteed to stuff them with skeles

you have to go first AND have an angelic barrage are equivalent in hand

>>172747132
Dick now

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>Mad Cyclone JO

Honestly unstoppable with all these layers of wards

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Beast Dominator is cute. CUTE!

>>172747696
are those her massive testicles hanging down there

please say yes

>>172747504
Assuming shadow go first
Wholesouled Swing the 2/2,
Grimnir
White Paladin evo
Monika
Shadow nigger concede,

>>172747705
Yes? Does that stop forestfuckers from doing Fairy Circle>2 Fairies>Soccermom going first?

It's the same damn thing. It's funny how you start finding that a problem.

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>>172747725

Will post as soon as I get off this winstreak.

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nice matchmaking

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"W-what...!?"

>>172747795
No, it's a bike seat. The mad woman going out for a ride in a dress like that haha

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>go second =/= loss meme
lmoa

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>>172747230
Fotm

>/svg/ complains about lack of interaction
>plays frog memes
Never change.

>>172748023
b-but muh Haven can deal with it! just themis!

>>172747752
My Crystal Storm deck was already fantastic. I just bought three cyclones. I am ready.

Is Sneks better as combo (Goblin Mage tutor, no 2 drops)

Or normal midrange with Yurius, Unica etc?

>>172748023
Just tribunal him, dude

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Anybody have any success with eidolon yet?

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The snek azazel combo gives me sexual pleasure