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>DWARFS EDITION

Warhammer II
Steam page:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/594570/
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

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Stop playing fantasy!
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D A W I
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>>172730212
They should wear armour :^)
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>>172730185
>file not named varg
you idiot
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>Histocucks argue that warhammer is for nerds and kids.
>However playing inaccurate history simulator and arguing about the battle of waterloo is fine.
I don't get it
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I really really hope this means there is a reason to keep playing beyond the 50th turn like currently in TWW
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dinosaurs
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So, do history friends not realize that Total War series has never been historically accurate? Do they not realize that TW games were always basically Hollywood history -tier, dominated by the rule of cool? I mean absolutely no offense here, I do enjoy both history and fantasy. But pretending to be a history buff and throwing a tantrum because of a Total War game seems absolutely ridiculous to me.
I have several friends who are also history buffs, one of them is even archeologist. They would never even think about touching a TW game, they mostly play Paradox stuff
>just my 2 coppers
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>>172730541
Are for fags
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>>172730185
>He wants CA to close down
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>>172730639
>his (((knights))) ride dinosaurs
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>>172730378
>>172730627
historytards are just angry because they could not read and now have to pass their history exams in high school with their history knowledge from Assassin's Creed
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>>172730698
Cold Ones > Shitty lizards
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>>172730746
We have Cold Onesssss too, you pansssssy knife-eared warm-blood.
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>>172730627
Yeah same in my experience, true history faggots play paradox shit. I think all the other folks are angry brits that like to go on and on about rome or medieval bcuz brits.
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>>172730645
>WHFB fags driven from /tg/
>Come and take over /twg/ to drive away history fags

Like pottery.
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Now that the dust has settled, how did your predictions go /twg/?

Elfblob+lizardmen new world races Y/N?

Rats Y/N?

No naval combat Y/N?

Southlands included Y/N?

I guessed everything right but didn't think Southlands would be included.
Probably not as Pre-order. BUT WE ALMOST CERTAINLY WILL BE KANGZ.
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>>172730212
AWAKEN MY ANCESTORS
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Does anyone have that praise unit collision spurdo pic?
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>>172730837
Lizardmen cold ones use the retarded old models unfortunately.
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>>172730869
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
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>>172730861
>paradox shit
>historically accurate

>you are like a little baby
>watch this
>Sunrise Invasion
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>>172730627
>>172730861
>Paradox shit
>Historically accurate
Holy shit, kill yourselves
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Threadly reminder that everyone laughs at stupid historyfags, including CA
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S K I N K S
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fantasy shitters are the niggers of twg desu
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>>172731005
>>172731080
Reminder that people out there think CK2 is an accurate representation of feudalism
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>>172730837

Is that supposed to be cool?
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>>172730627
>Paradox stuff
Could never get into this, and I'm pretty autismal about games, I think I have about 500 hours active playtime in Dorf Fortress over the years, probably thousands including the time it's been running while I've been doing other things
Especially Crusader Kings 2 I was completely unable to get into
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>Extended cast range.
Suck my dick.
I hope CA can figure out what useless abilities and upgrades are in their own game. Nobody uses warrior priests to lower growth in an enemy province, that's fucking stupid. It's a net loss. You're not getting growth and you're hurting the province you're going to seize anyway. Also I don't think anyone anywhere has ever damaged a building. Maybe in Rome 2 if it meant that you don't get the garrison from barracks or something.
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>>172731251
CK2 is overrated shit. It really just is. The game is only fun if you consider doing absolutely nothing but blobing small counties one by one and assassinating in an order dictated by a tree as enjoyable. The vast majority of its players only play it to roleplay /pol/ fantasies. If you think im kidding go to /gsg/ and see for yourself, the whole thing is nothing but murdering Muslims and turks.

HoI and EU are a lot better because they focus more on the logistics and economics of running a country. HoI in particular has a logistics system TW desperately needs to make it deeper.
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>>172731350
Average Greek
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>>172730837
Actually they dont

Its like comparing Alligators to Crocodiles. Yeah its similar but its not the same. Lizardmen have their own cold ones but they are terrible in comparison to the dark elf ones

>>172731381
>Also I don't think anyone anywhere has ever damaged a building
Its by far one of the most useful, if not the most useful, thing an agent can do. The number of wall breaches you get is huge, it massively pushes the battle in your favor for auto resolves, and in the space of 10 turns you can get a hero from level 1 to level 10-15 easily.

If you're not spamming the living fuck out of damage settlement, you're playing wrong.
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>>172731350
It's a videogame. Not a recreation of history that we can interact with.
That cunt needs to fuck off. If he wants autistic history then he can make a mod for Victoria 2 with real newspaper clippings each and every day for the 100 years you can play.
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>>172731529
Only outdated model differences, they are otherwise the same.
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>>172731198
Im a little bit disappointed

I dont know if my knowledge of Skinks is wrong, but I assumed since they are the 'smart' part of the Lizardman army they would be more fast, calm and collected rather than just blue gobbos.

I guess most skinks are swarm idiots and only a few are actually smart.
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>>172731350
>Northern Greece (Macedonia)
So are these people underage or just autistic? Maybe both?

Also Arch being the faggot he usually is already complaining that Skaven is gonna be pre-order DLC despite everything pointing to the contrary. That guy is literally EARTH IS FLAT tier of tinfoil hat theories.
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>>172731629
Skinks are smart but also pretty hyperactive, at least in battle.
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>>172731621
It depends on what weapons you take but generally the DE ones are better. Check the rulebooks.
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In Attila, why do my vassals just decide to betray me at random points, even the turn after I vassalise them and have an army (albeit battered) next to them? Really frustrating.

Also, Are there any good map mods for Warhammer? I'm downloading one set of them now but it's about 1.5 gigs or something
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Just watched Arch video on the Warhammer II release, holy fuck he is an insufferable faggot.

How can you have so many inaccuracies from such a short video, its like he is clueless and does not even read the steam page. Didnt even know the southlands were in it, and think Skaven is DLC.
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>people complaining that the new game will be $60
>Thats the price of a single Slann model
Hohohoho
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>>172731631
Any standard greek is pretty upset about the slavs dropping memes on them.

>>172731629
Gobbos are pretty crafty, skinks are like gobbos without the malevolence.

They're the chief brains of the operation simply because they're the smartest the lizards have left, not because they're inherently smart to begin with.
Saurus know nothing but labour and military matters(which can be a deep strategic mind, but excel in no other field, or even consider other fields)
skinks literally do everything else, preach religion, try to interpret what a slann mumbles in his sleep, organize everything that a slann doesn't when it wakes up for a couple of minutes every century.

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>just watched arch
you only have yourself to blame
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>>172731786
Yeah I gave up watching after he started going on about how Skaven was gonna be the Chaos Warriors pre-order DLC, fucking idiot.
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>>172731795
Yeah but you own that slann model for life.
Whereas you only rent and play your copy of TWW2(fuck your names CA) while steam graces you with the privilege.
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Cheessa neenjah mah wongee Chewbacca. Kanjee teh droid. OHOHOHO!
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>>172731629
They're smart twitchy little buggers, also looking forward to the chameleon skinks. I want my predator lizards.
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>>172731973
Fuck off sonypony
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>>172731629
Remember that only like 30s animation reel which had the hyperactive smart dog jumping circles around the big bulldog? That's Skinks and Lizardos
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>>172731786
milkandcookies, my man.
Arch is a faggot, but you can get over that. Being inaccurate is insufferable.
He said that WH 2 isn't a standalone game but an expansion, that you play on the whole world map with all factions from the get go, that there are no southlands in the game, that Skaven are not in the expansion but DLC, he didn't bother to get the second video they released that showed us the other stuff that was made. He's a hack living off the fact that he was one of the first to get in on the "market".

Don't give him views, or if you do, go for milkandcookies or which ever other rival he has and give them more views. They at least deserve it.
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>>172732126
Why would I watch Total War youtubers in the first place?
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>>172732126
I sometimes watch his videos out of curiosity, i want to see how wrong he can get things.
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>>172732113
You should apologize for such a low insult. I ain't no sonynigger.
PC and nintendo until the Wii, then just PC.

Doesn't make steam an ethical platform despite the fact I have like 300 games on it.
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>>172731786

Arch has COMPLETELY given up

In the vast, vast majority of the videos where he purports to "explain" the recent news he LITERALLY doesn't even read all the the news release for whatever was revealed and starts guessing and giving out blatantly wrong information.

I mean, we've known he was a complete faggot since before even the release of the first game, he pretty much cemented that status when he started dreaming up conspiracy theories about the Vampire Counts having been cut.
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>>172731629
Gobbos are somewhat smart too

Of course, they are still worthless gobbos
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>>172729972
>iron rock
>not iron wood

>>172730345
10/10
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For those who had any doubts Skaven would not make release.
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PRAISE SIGMAR
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Yay! My first win!
>No music, just the same few string notes and magic wind bullshit.
Anyway. I forgot I could encamp so wiping out the nords was tedious, I wasn't finished.
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>>172732190
If the youtuber is good, he distills all the info and spoonfeeds you what you need. Case and point, the guy i talked about and his video about the teaser and the other vid, which i didn't know existed. It's really good to have when you're on the move and have 20 or so minutes between meetings, but you crave info about the game.
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>>172732351
>Mousillon still exists

Congrats on your first victory tho, 125 turns is quite a good number
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>>172732232
SONYPONY
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>>172732345
I'll never get tired of this .gif
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>>172732369
Not who you're talking about, and indypride is okay but I can't imagine anyone needing any info from a slow video format. Everything is incredibly apparent.

>>172732456
I SAID APOLOGIZE DAMN IT
FINAL WARNING
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>>172732336
How are they going to implement all four clans?
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Hol up
Isn't Dark elves have literally floating cities?
How CA will implement that?
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>>172732481
>slow video format
I usually just listen to it while reading business stuff. Unless there is something I need to see, then I ignore my work.
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>>172732513
poorly

>>172732515
They won't/migrating army with naval flair
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>>172732515

they won't, naval isn't happening. They might have something special with Tor Anlec but apart from that I doubt we will see a Black Ark outside the campaign map when crossing the ocean.
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>>172732513
inly Pestilens is in the theatre

they still didn't speify if Skaven are the 4th race though.
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>>172731795

So warhammer is like pokemon, but you pay 60 bucks for one card? It's starting to all come together now.
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>>172732585

>they still didn't speify if Skaven are the 4th race though.

Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>172732515
no real naval shit, just auto-resolve. pretty sure it's just because CA is too cheap to buy the man-o-war license.
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>>172732515
It\s gonna be a buff on the campaign map when they travel through water
>Black Ark +10 to autoresolve
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>>172732513
>How are they going to implement all four clans?
>four

Rictus
Mors
Skyre
Skab
Pestilen
Eshin
Skurvy
Moulder
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>>172732609

CA isn't in charge of buying licences, Sega is.
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>>172732585
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>>172732447
I let them go about raping Bretonnia. I have no idea how they got 3 full stacks all of a sudden when Bretonnia was doing so good confederating.

But the plan was to go in and sweep up all that free real-estate.
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>>172732513
Thanqol as "Skaven"
Ikit as "Clan Skryre"
Queek as "Clan Mors"
That fag as "Clan Pestilens" (sold with the lord pack against skinks I guess)

No clan eshin or moulder as a faction, but their units are present, so maybe a technology or something
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>>172732513

In before a generic faction named 'Skaven' with the other clans being side-factions.

It really tickles my autism that they've moved onto splitting factions up but still have ones named after the race itself.
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>>172732515
Sea hordes
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>>172732515
Dak Elves have floating fortress fleet bases but they also have cities in Naggaroth

I have some ideas how it could be done with the engine but we won' know.

They are announced to be in either way.
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>>172731152
Th-they still remember Pontus?
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So since Skaven with Thanquol are coming and hero units already in the game does this mean we getting Gotrek and Felix soon?
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>>172731786
>>172731967
>>172732126
>>172732238
If you want a decent channel with Warhammer lore and gameplay, try Inept General. He's nowhere near as insufferable as Arch.
>inb4 self-shilling
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>>172732607
>>172732640
they said 4 races will be in at launch, nowhere did they say skaven are that race.

4th race may still be Kangz with rats as DLC later.
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>>172732515
Siege battles at sea, or as I've taken to calling them - seage battles! :D
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>Skinks playing the Slaan's tummy like a drum

c-cute!
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>>172732759
I'll check it out, ty. Him and that other guy which was mentioned indypride.

I'm quite happy with milkandcookies atm, but why not see how these two work.

Cheers mate
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>>172732808
I want to take a nap on it.

I bet it's very comfy.
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>>172732773
Watch the trailer.

Understand where the campaign will take place.

Stop baiting.
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>>172732759

Seconded, started watching the guy a month ago and his lore videos really fleshed out all those minor shit factions like Nordland for me.
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>>172731773
pls respond
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>>172732515
>attack with transport fleet
>start on a breach in the hull of the city, with a normal city attack from that point on
Come on now friendo it aint that hard
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>>172732773

Are you fucking joking?

Did you WATCH the fucking trailer?

Did you read the description on the Steam page?

There is no fucking ambiguity here.

It's Skaven.
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>>172732859
Read the info.

Understand that we will get Southlands.

Stop being retarded.
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>>172732732
didn't someone find a audio file of gotrek and felix?
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>>172732909
whys his eye glowing red

i thought warpstone was green
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>>172732336
>4 races in the game
>not "4 races will be playable"
Sneaky.
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>>172732773
>they said 4 races will be in at launch, nowhere did they say skaven are that race.
Look at the TWW2 logo

What are those symbols on it
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>>172732919

>Read the info

The fucking irony

>Meanwhile a fourth, secretive race stirs, their motives obscured by sinister plots and machinations. The time for revelation is nigh…

Yeah, that sure sounds like the fucking Tomb Kings, a race that lives out in the open, trades with humans and openly states their motives
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>>172732909
OR It's Tomb Kangz in the Southlands and Skaven will come in DLC...
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>>172732945

I think their eyes glow red unless they're casting spells. Then they're green.
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>>172732945

oh my god.. they have red eyes... what could.. this mysterious... race.... b...e.......
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>>172732919
Yeah it's great I'm looking so fucking forward to Kangz as the first DLC.
Which they will be.
They can't be a launch faction because they have nothing to do with the not-maelstrom. Even compared to the Skaven who have an invented interest in it because magic and evil and shit.
Lizardmen will have absolutely fuckall to do if Skaven are not in the game at launch.
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>>172732859
>>172732909
I did, but none of that guarantees Skaven?

Them being so secretive about it is a big point in favour of it not actually being Skaven, I'm just saying it would be an interesting twist if it's actually Kangz seeing how we get Southlands.
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>>172733004
Wrong game, faggot. Doesn't prove shit.
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>>172733004
please don't use vermintide when comparing eyes in it and warhammer

youll be disapointed
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What are some fun "alternative" army compositions for Dwarfs?
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>>172733004
Why is the game called warhammer vermintide if there are no stunties pictured?

>>172733059
I like how it splits the elf waifu cunts but the red eyes are a pretty specific point.
You often see them portrayed with green eyes in unofficial art, because muh warpstone and shiiiet.
Every official depiction specifies red eyes though.

>>172733062
Gobbos
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>>172732909
Skaven are just for stories to scare little children. Stop talking nonsense.
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>>172733059

You wanna just keep digging this hole or what?
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Alright than.
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>>172733062
Like 12 iron breaker units and 7 grudge throwers?

Hilarious.
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Turin was given some early multiplayer footage of lizardmen. The quality is shit and the lizardmen players sucks shit,but it's something to hold us over until we get proper official footage to mess with.

https://youtu.be/Bn5DY1xh0j4
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>>172733118
>vermintide if there are no stunties pictured
You can now punt a stunt in the latest update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2IBtsnkiq8
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>>172733052
>>172733059

what could it... mean...... the eyes.... are they... a... new... race....??
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>>172732808
those Slann look rad as fuck
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>>172732631
>Skurvy
>Moulder
kek
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>>172733141

>Suffering the mannlet to live.
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>>172733062

Tech-phobic armies. Ranger focused armies with Belegar, slayer army with Ungrim. Mass shooty armies
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>>172733131
why are you being so sarcastic at me? i havennt done anything to you
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>>172732808

>thought he was clipping with his necklace then realised it was just fat rolls folding over them
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Wait, Total Warhammer is already getting a sequel?
That's hilarious, I thought the upcoming update was a new campaign expansion like New World or Teutonics

At least this one will have Skaven in it
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>>172732808
>slann
>staying awake long enough to actually campaign around the world and lead armies into battle
What is this bullshit?
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>>172733283
Its a standalone expansion, its connected to the current game
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>>172733039
You're an idiotic retarded piece of shit who's unfit for interacting with society
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WHAT

COULD

IT

MEAN
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>>172732808
T H I C C
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>>172733283

It is that you imbecilic retard
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So what will the secondary lords be? Hopefully no duds
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If they add Tomb Kangz in this part, the second one - aren't they damaging the sales of the thirds part since it's not gonna have any interesting races. It's chaos manlets, fat belly fucks and what else?
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>>172732808
This feels like its modeled after a fat guy more than a fat toad

The ass flaps make no sense at all.
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Is there a mode which uncovers the whole map? Like completely removes the fog of war? Rome II.
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>>172733325
>>172733342
Ah okay
So what's your guys favourite TW games? Mine's Total War: Shogun 5 - Fall of the Samurai
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>>172733320
Mazdamundi does it, and otherwise the specifications on the slann allow a tiny bit of wiggle-room for one nameless slann to get some things done to allow for roleplay in setting up battles and shit.

>>172733359
They're very obvious and have already been shown
Teclis, based wizard
Tyrion, generic warrior

edge king
edge king's mom

Top slann
Top Saurus

dunno about rats.

>>172733405
It is a bit weird but kinda irrelevant because they're never not sitting down anyway.
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>>172732515

Might be Dark elves can enter a kind of horde mode on the sea. If you attack them there instead of auto resolve it's a siege/land battle on the ship.
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>>172733359

Tyrion and Teclis for Best Elves

Malekith and Morathi for Worst Elves

Mazdamundi and Kroq-gar for Lizzies

Skaven is a bit up in the air, I would count on Lord Skrolk and Thanquol, though either of those could get their spot taken by Queek Headtaker.
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>>172733395
>aren't they damaging the sales of the thirds part
No.

Just because CA said they plan on doing the main factions first doesn't mean they will have nothing left to do afterwards. There is still a bunch of smaller unique factions that they could add.
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>>172733320
Mazmamundi you stupid moron

How about you read before you go full retard you austitical waste of oxygen?
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>>172732808
looks just like that fat fuck /tv/ memes about all the time

>Muh leggggggs!
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>>172733320

Mazdamundi had an epiphany that the only way to carry out the old one's wishes was to genocide all the lesser races so he doesn't sleep.

He's frog Durthu.
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>>172733338
why are you being suck a dick to people you dont know?
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>it's 2015, Attila comes out
>it is immediately buried and shat on, because it came out too soon after Rome 2, despite being a legitimately good game
>WTF SEGA YOU'RE GOING FULL ACTIVISION
>fast forward to 2017
>Warhammer 2 is announced
>building on the fact that the first game was the fastest and best selling TW game up to date
>CA and TW got actual mainstream exposure, which attracted thousands of new fans to the arguably stale franchise
>but most importantly, Warhammer brought money
>money which were used to create the second team, which now makes a new historical title, on new engine, in the period never seen before
>March 31st, 2017
>GIBE US HISTORY RIGHT FUCKING NAO
>IT HAS BEEN 2 YEARS REEEEEEEEEE
Do these literal mongs not realize that SEGA might actually notice this shitstorm? That they might now start to push on CA to release the historical title as soon as possible? Do they realize that when it comes out, half assed bugged mess, it will all be on histfags?
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>>172733535

at first glance one might think grimgor is an orc...

but look closely.. his eye isn't red.. it's white...

what could this new race be?
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>>172733535
People who are this retarded are like the histfags who thought they were getting a historical despite everything against it

They aren't humans, because humans have the gift of intelligence and analysis. They are wild animals who in an ideal world would be put down by a firing squad, but for now we'll have to make due with mocking and humiliating them until they realize they aren't welcome in civilized society or fit to live in it
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>>172733608
To consumers they are always the victim, and always right.

So no, they dont realize that.
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>>172733608

>CA release Attila
>probably one of the best TW games since Medieval 2
>gets review-bombed and completely shit on by twc fags and Arch viewers
>wow why aren't CA catering to us anymore?
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>>172733645
edgy
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>>172733535

Why are you taking something personally on an anonymous imageboard?

Just detach from the stupid shit you said and move on.
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>>172733535
People like you should be executed
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>>172733608
its not even all histfags, im a huge histfag and i much prefer the historical titles to warhammer but i'm also capable of understanding that the revenue and enthusiasm warhammer has brought to the franchise will obviously make its way to the upcoming historical release

but to answer your question the vocal majority wont realise their potentially ballsing everything up because as you rightly put they are complete mongs.
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My biggest wish for the game:

Teclis is voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch
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>>172733516
Not exactly.
Since the beginning, before Chaos they were supposed to genocide unacceptable races.

Mazdamundi's activity is simply a more proactive approach because he realizes that the world is moving past them too fast.
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>>172733886
My wish is for him to have a bigger, more elaborate hat. I didn't even realise he was supposed to be someone special from the trailer due to his lack of proper hat aesthetics.
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>>172732515

>Black Ark acts like tradition fleet in rome 2/attila
>Armies can embark/disembark without movement penalty
>has same building slots as Tree of Life
>gets attacked, engage in regular land battle with edges of map being edges of the ship or edge of ship is visible

Or more likely black arks aren't in the game at all except mentioned somewhere in the DE tech tree
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Why was the opening cinematic voice actor switched over? The old guy was much better, had better words, and fitted with the general feeling.

This new woman makes me want to mute her
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>>172733739
>>172733608
You know I got a taste of this personally recently. My family's company got attacked by people entirely unjustifiably. It was pretty stressful seeing all the continuous barrage of baseless bullshit thrown at you, its completely different when its something important to you and in the real world not just someone being a shitposter like you would normally deal with anon to anon. And the worst part is you become increasingly antagonist to the people hating on you out of self defense.

I have no doubt that the unjustified hatred on Attila when CA tried so hard to fix things made them really sick and tired of their 'fanbase'. Its no surprise that history has been put on hold so hard, even with the 'second' team its obvious its not getting the attention like Warhammer is. And since TWW is blowing up sales wise, even with its DLC, CA has every reason to keep doing non-history.

So well done historyfags, you brought this on yourself.
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>>172733189
Fuck I really want to get Vermintide, warhammer setting in a l4d2 type game sounds great, I just wish there were more players
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>>172734053
>Black Ark: +15% replenishment in the sea

calling it now
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>>172733189
Did this game stop crashing for no reason yet? I stopped playing it over that fact alone.
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>>172733886
Fuck off
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>For the Warhammer®!

Jesus christ seriously?
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>>172733970

While lacking in the hat department, his popped collar game was of the charts. Which should signify him as an important character.
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>>172734164

And I misquoted, meant it for. >>172734031
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>>172734078

I never got why historyfags were so asspained about TW not being 100% historical anyway.

Did they just not play Rome 1 with head hurlers, Tutankhamun axemen and gladiators
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>>172733608

>money which were used to create the second team

Cool, cause handing off a project to a new B team has always turned out well.
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>thread about inaccurate slann navels got moved to offtopic
Im sorry /twg/, I tried.
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>>172734157
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>>172732808
Mazdamundi rules and lore for those who're interested.

He never did have an official model in TT so it'll be interesting to see him in aciton.
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>>172734234
Don't forget arcani
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>>172733739

>Our ideas are garbage.
>Don't fix what you broke, just alienate the fanbase by pandering to an out-group to the point demographic replacement.

CA went to the democratic party school of problem solving.
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>>172734072

I agree, but since the "old man" (corrupted Light Wizard) dies in the previous game, they have a valid excuse to use discount LoTR woman voice
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>>172734238
>lusty Jack and mitch
>B team.
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>>172734312
The fact that the high elf used some magic that wasnt just a vortex, recolored orb or sweeping attacking gives me hope that his magic will be fun as fuck.

Or at least we can add 'block arrows' to that list.
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>le historyfags meme

why is everyone that isnt a warhammer loving manchild suddenly a "historyfag"? stop it with this autistic nonsense

some people just dont enjoy your generic fantasyland
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>>172734238
Andromeda is not that bad. Aside from atrocious graphic issues and some cringy dialogue, most of the story and exploration is done well
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>>172734392

if you think attila didn't fix r2's problems you should kys
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>>172734486
But if you enjoy Total War games, you are a fantasyfag. TW games were never historically accurate.
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Why aren't there any other companies making Total War style games?
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>>172733642
>>172733645
>>172733793
>>172733830
The point stands, there's nothing forcing you to be so malicious.

We're a total war community, not a cunts community.
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>>172734567
There is

Its called Bannerlord and its coming out NEVER
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CA pls

http://twacasualsaga.net/
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mods are asleep post your recent screenshots
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>>172734154
I never had crash issues, played through all the maps at release.
me and everyone I know stopped playing becaues the lack of fun/worthwhile maps for the shitty loot system.
maybe they'll make a comeback with future dlc but it's surely too late
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>>172734584
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>>172734560
there is a slight difference between a piece of armour not being modelled correctly/ slight historical accuracy and a game with magic and monsters, ya dingus
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>>172734584
There's nothing malicious about executing wild animals like you who pretend to be human

It's merely ensuring a proper future for humanity rid of the scourge that is stupidity like yours
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>>172734613
that is not a TW style game
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>>172734627
I didn't have issues with crashes when the game was just released either, but later, when added the first DLC crashes became fucking insane. Also I wasn't that thrilled about grinding and carrying those hp draining books that caused pointless teamwipes all the time (people just couldn't fucking fathom taking only one of them for some reason).
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>>172734713
With mods like 1257 AD and their formations stuff, you can kind of make it into a rustic small-scale tactical game.
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>>172734654

A Roman ninja, dated 239 BC, found on a clay vase in Genoa.
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>>172734654
What about the totally unrealistic warfare where units operate within units no matter what, never leaving those units?
What about the totally unrealistic magic instant telepathy of your units?
What about the totally unrealistic magic armor/weapon supply so your army just gets everything it needs instantly?
What about the totally unrealistic re-population of your army through gay sex?
What about the totally unrealistic morale system?
What about the totally unrealistic 'balance' of units?

TW is not historical. Its historically THEMED. There is a big fucking difference.
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>>172734732
yeah I could only ever play the first map with pubs on the harder difficulties with the books, otherwise no one knew what they were doing yet insisted on picking up the books and failing the team every fucking time.
that got really annoying
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Can someone explain to me the "understander of strategy" meme?
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>>172734654

A cannon-mounted elephant, believed to be part of Timur the Lame's horde, dated 1356 AD. Found buried within the Iranian desert, historians believe these creatures were used en masse and later inspired the German 'Blitzkrieg' tactics used in WW2.
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What rig does /twg/ recommend for optimum warhammer understanding? And what do they actually have?
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>>172734654
>barbsbarbs never used formations, or at least the vast majority did not
>every single TW battle is formations based
"Historical"

Even this is more historical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MYxtpGxGJI
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Does divide et impera play the same way as normal r2?
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>>172734802
i agree, but there is still a difference between a historical themed game and a fantasy themed one, and obviously games like rome total war aren't fantasy themed. they might take liberties here and there on game mechanics but it doesnt make it wildly inaccurate

>>172734896
btfo
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>>172730185

>stop my meme

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING I'M IN CHARGE HERE
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>>172734654

A bulletproof samurai, found among the artworks of renowned Japanese painter Sesshū Tōyō, dated 1496 AD. Using their impenetrable armour, many historians now believe they were single-handedly responsible for repelling European colonial powers during the Sengoku era.
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>>172733189
>The dwarf stunlocks the fuck out of an ogre rat by just slapping it on the face.
Holy shit my sides.
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>>172734997
1d4chan
Its fairly entertaining, and fills you in on the TT culture too.
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>>172735016
not
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>>172734627
>me and everyone I know stopped playing becaues the lack of fun/worthwhile maps for the shitty loot system.
What do you mean by that? I was interested in the game
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>>172734997

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2qbp22o8ch8qc/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battles

Alternatively, reading the wiki. Most of the stuff there is basically copy pasted from the proper material anyway.
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>>172735176
Not him but the developers have designed the whole game around the loot system now

Which means the best way to 'progress' is to grind the best map for getting loot over and over so everyone just plays whatever FOTM map that is.
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>>172730869
Rats, lizards, elves, delves. Y. anyone shoulda guessed that
No naval was pretty obvious too, quite glad they arent wasting resources on implementing it.
I didnt think theydve included southlands on release but I thought thered be a chance of of it + kangz DLC.

News about grand campaign map implementation is interesting. I thought it'd all be tacked on to the single map but i guess technical limitations restrict that. It's a good thing they have to create it from scratch i suppose, it means everything will be updated/balanced for the big campaign and we'll have all the factions getting streamlined mechanics.

Now im curious how third game will play out. Will CA deem ogres, chaos dawi and Daemons enough for a full price game? Will we get chaos wastes as well as the east? I'd be really happy for them to just put out the final game and fill out rosters and tidy up factions from the previous games, banners and musicians and some multiplayer implementation.
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How in the fucking fuck does Arch have so many views when he's wrong all the time

I just don't understand, you'd think after the 3rd time he'd been proven wrong people would look for other sources of information, this fanbase is made up of morons.
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>>172734896
they probably used them to transport cannons?
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>>172734095
Where you from? I'm from Asia and I'd be happy to play with you.

>>172734154
Only crashed for me once in a blue moon. Game's in a pretty fine state right now and I'm actually surprised at how the devs still keep supporting it.
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>>172734618
Gonna beat it in the event of warhammer goodies.
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>>172735058
i think you are missing the point, that exaggerations on historical units are not the same as straight up fantasy like vampires and all that, and do not somehow turn the game into a non-historical one
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>>172733516
>>172733320
What about all the literal who slann lords you'll be able to recruit?
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>>172735241
If you only ever engage in one source of information you will never know you're wrong.

Same reason Trump has so many blind followers.
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On a scale of Jabberslythe to 10, how much chance do we have on getting the Hell Pit Abomination?
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I think the more important question is, who do you think will be the Pre-Order faction?
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>>172734667
What makes me stupid? Smart people don't act tough over the internet you know.
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>>172735227
and most the time you're getting gear you already have, don't need, or for a character you don't enjoy playing. unless they've changed that since I last played
I guess it's the same for most loot based games though, this could use a trade/craft system to make up for it
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>>172735394
What's the most complex organic creature in the game so far?
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>>172735380
Chances are they will be extremely limited, and if you lose one you lose him for good.

>>172735394
0%

No way they can afford to animate it.
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>>172735414
Amazons obviously.
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>>172735414
They'll remix an existing faction with a few new units and plop it in the new world. Vampire Coast, most likely. Given their love of Vampires.
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>>172735482
wow TWO(2) units!
Just like Attila!
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>>172735424

Chaos Spawn for Beastmen?
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Does anyone have the Franz gobbos image?
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>b-b-but they haven't announced skaven officially so that means its pre-order!!!
Are these the kind of idiots who get burned on hot coffee then sue the company because they didn't specifically tell them it would be hot?
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>>172735482
Damn I want to get squashed by her
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>>172735424
I think the answer to that is none of them are particularly over the top like the units not in the game yet, like Jabbers or Abomination. Maybe the Chaos Dragon would be the hardest? Double heads and all.

I think they are doing the Hydra though, and that would be a fucking nightmare in of itself.
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>>172735380

You can use Slann lords on the tabletop so I don't see any reason why you can't in-game. But I'd expect the generic generals to be Saurus Oldbloods and Skink Priests, not Slann.
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>>172735529
Warriors had them first.
Elf hawk and eagle units are pretty impressive.
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>>172735417
Tough? What's tough about wishing degenerate morons like you were executed?

Not being able to see and interpret the most basic of information makes you incredibly stupid. On par with the worthless morons who were convinced it'd be a history game
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>>172735368

Byzantine Flammenwerfer infantry, 1398 AD. Discovered in Anatolia, historians believed they were originally developed to fight the invading Turks, who the Byzantines mistook for Viet Cong.
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>>172735670
>Not being able to see and interpret the most basic of information makes you incredibly stupid

I don't see how that applies to me my friend. You're the one getting defensive over kindness in a total war thread.
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>Slaan and Best Elves finally coming soon

Will CA make magic great again? Or will they just neuter it for multiplayer fags?
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>>172735753
Kindness for imbeciles is active aggression against the human race
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>inb4 4th base race is Araby or Tomb Kings and Skavens are gonna be a DLC race like wood elves.
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>>172735723
again, based off a real historical premise, unlike lizard people and ogres

do you get it yet or are you going to carry on spending your saturday morning combing through every single TW unit and thinking up an ebin tagline
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>>172735241
arch is for redditors, milkandcookiestw is /ourguy/
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>>172730378
Fantasy is for nerds while history is for autists.This was agreed here a long time ago and it still stands.
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>>172734238
Medieval 2 was made by a B team
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>>172732808
Every slann has a team of skinks that has to clean up all the shit and piss as well as feed him because he cannot move on his own
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>>172735847
I think they're starting to embrace Magic as a significant mechanic
Now that they're starting a new entry, they can rebalance "from the ground up" so, lets hope the magic gets even cooler
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>>172736043
There comes a point where killing someone is doing them a favor, this would be it.
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>>172736043
They spend hundreds of years just sitting in a coma state, I doubt they need to eat
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>>172736112
There's one episode where the guy's legs are rotting and he's a complete asshole to his carers, it's GREAT.
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>>172736043
I thought Nurgle was fantasy
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>>172736043
she looks pretty good compared to the other images on tv/
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CA mentioned that they had initially tried mocap for the lizardmen, do you think that is the reason the slann look like fat fucks instead of toads?

>navels
>asscheeks
>fat stubby fingers
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>>172735565
How the hell would chaos dragon be hardest?
It isn't like the heads are dynamic or anything.

>>172735482
I wonder who is behind this post
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>>172733171
Laughed pretty hard at this
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>>172736369
Probably, they would be the only ones who could be mocapped since they dont actually move from their chairs, it would save a lot of time and money to get a fat guy to mocap it. Doesnt excuse them screwing up the design points like that though.

Lizards look kind of freaky, sort of like the skeletons with that synchronized movement.
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>>172736412
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>>172735292
I'm from pizzaland so not very close
Anyway I was going to buy it in a few weeks because first I need to get a pc that is able to run the game
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>>172736369
So basically they tried to use your mom for modelling the Slann LOL
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>>172736447
Is there a magic spell for big tits
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>>172736412
It has a lot more attacks than you think, and the more limbs there are the longer it takes to animate things.

The forest dragon doing a claw swipe means animating all its parts, a chaos dragon would mean doing all its parts which also includes a second head. And if you watch the dragon attacks they did a good job having the heads snake inbetween each other so they dont clip.

If its true they are doing the hydra though god have mercy on the poor soul who got that job.
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>>172736112
>>172736159
>>172736269
>>172736321
I think the incarnation of Nurgle is the guy named James, his skin is literally rotting off him so he has bleeding ulcers all his legs that look like a christmas ham, im not gonna bother looking for it but his flesh is basically turning into yellow putrid goo. Heres the episode, he has a wife and children who has to clean his ass for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v831GUCkALQ
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>>172736521
They've probably just chained some animation intern to a desk for the last 3 monhs
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>>172736527
I think I'll pass
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>>172736479
Asia US isn't too bad.
I'm straya and I've played with europ lads, so 400 fucking goddamn assnigger ping.
Which isn't good but it's still playable on anything below the hardest difficulty.

>>172736521
Still not particularly hard they just have to make sure it is doing something, not something specific like the hawk riders and glade lord on eagle and shit animations.

Damn right they're doing hydra. Can cut a few beastmen units because nobody gives a fuck, but the hydra is THE dark elf unit.
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TWW needs more freedom
its fucking fantasy
it could make naval combat work on sealevel, air and underwater
but no that cant happen, there are no units under the tabletop either.
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>>172736527
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>>172736527
NURGLE'S PESTILENT GLORY
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>>172736609
Why would they do extra work, particularly in an area which would require a fuckton?
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Post hisfag salt.
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>>172736693
back to >>>/v/
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>>172736527
better quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZZXJHOKINs
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>>172736662
because they could finally make naval combat good
and fucking do something more with magic instead of having 3 types of spells
1. damage
2. buff/debuff
3. create unit
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>>172736527
>he has a wife and children who has to clean his ass for him
When I hear of people so fat they need to be taken care of like this, I always wonder if the wife/husband is just very loyal or they simply don't have a way out of the situation yet
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>>172736748
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>>172736769
>because they could finally make naval combat good
Only in your mind

You do realize game development takes time and money right? Neither is infinite.
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>>172736775
As fucked up as people who get to that stage are, there are almost as equally fucked up people who tolerate them
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>>172736854
then use the money warhammer prints and take more time than 1 year to make new game?
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>>172736854
ur mum's weight is infinite
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>>172736946
but that would make them less money and more slowly
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>>172736946
Oh of course anon, they'll just reach into the infinite vault of infiniteness and use that money!

You know that the cost of the base game was 4 times more than the total amount of money CA had on hand? They had to borrow that money from Sega just to make the game. Even while making a profit now CA are still bound by the limits of their success and there is no way its been good enough to make naval work when they cant even get all the basic ground troops into the game.
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>>172737068
Your work is shit and your point is moot

We have good discussions about all the games when people bother to load up the old ones, help new people when they need it, and are probably one of the best generals on /vg/

So fuck off, you're the only problem here.
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>>172730280

say no more
t. Radious
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>>172731773
>>172732895

Vassals are retarted. Having a strong army next to them for some turns helped for me, but I think I got lucky. There might be some mods that fixes/changes vassals.
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>>172736854
I'm with you Anon, they could have done it, especially with the number of playable races starting to dwindle.

Instead we'll get a glorified auto resolve. Hell I'm waiting for them to come out saying they can't rework sieges because it would cost enough at this point.

I love Warhammer and have given game 1 a lot of slack but if they get really lazy on game 2 I'm done.
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>>172737217
Why aren't they using handguns?
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>>172735849
Would you like to talk? It seems like you're angry about something deeper than me.

I don't like people harboring sadness all their life.
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>>172737217
Imagine when Ogres are out


>Giant Dwarfs(double cannons)
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>>172737217
>slayers with armor
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>>172732515
>How CA will implement that?
Same way sea fortresses were implemented in Endless Legend. SEGA did buy Amplitude to get them to help out with TW after all.
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What mods should i get to make Empire: Total War playable? Is that Darth mod enough? Lack of naval combat in Warhammer 2 made me want to try it in Empire.

>>172733395
IIRC Third game will be focused on Chaos, but they can't make enitre game based around edgy faggots. They need good guys too. I expect something like this in third game.

Base:
Kislev - normie, human, good guys faction
Divided Chaos
Chorfs
Ogres

DLC/FLC
Daemons, Hobgoblins as their own maybe?

It's not like they have to make completely new map, right?. I think that they will take eastern part of the current map too to third game because Chorfs and Ogres lands alone will be borning af. Unless they add Northern Wastes too, but this will be just borning Norsca 2.0 or shrink Dark Lands and Ogre Kingdoms and include Grand Cathay and Kingdoms of Ind but those are literally who factions.

>>172734095
I don't have any problems with finding people to play at all. There is always someone playing. And game is more fun than l4d2 for me.
>>172734154
Never crashed for me, but i bought it on last humble bundle so i'm not playing it for long.
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Can you guys tell me more about Dark Elves?
What will their "special" troops will be? Is there more than reskinned infantry elves and bdsm whores?
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>>172737474
>daemons
>dlc
are you fucking retarded?

they're do a faction for each god and chaos will be the focal point

>>172737513
they ride raptors and have hydras and shit
Both are pretty cool
That's about it though.
Still more interesting than banner of the world dragon elves
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>>172737443
How were they implemented in this game? I didn't played it yet.
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>>172737513
They are like High Elves, but black and edgy

They are fast, hit hard, like charging into things and running away. Lots of quick troops and ways to whittle enemies down before engaging them. Weak as fuck though and melt. Dont have access to all the dragons of High Elves but have their own special snowflake the Hydra which obliterates most things in a fight.
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>>172737217
>have a literal death wish
>wear armour
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>172737474
I dont get how will they implement chaos and kislev when theres already chaos warriors and meme kislev? There is going to be huge update to original game?
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>>172737068
me doing big poops
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>>172737602
>Daemons
>4 armies
I dont know why you guys keep saying this, there would be literally only 3 to 4 units per army.

The final game is going to be Chaos focused we know, and CA will want four factions included in the new Chaos ending campaign so its going to be
>Warriors of Chaos reworked
>Daemons
>Chaos Dwarfs
>Chaos Undivided
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>>172736775
Most people aren't cruel enough to leave a fellow human to die in his own filth
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>>172737770
divided chaos armies, they would have themed warriors and marauders and daemons
undivided daemons would be a stupid army and warriors of chaos generally represent chaos undivided
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>>172737695
The turboship one always gives me Sid Meier's Pirates! flashbacks
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>>172737770
Pretty likely they'll have ogres in game 3 too.
They'd have to update beastmen as well with marks n shit. I want my slaanesh focused extra rapey rape goats
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>>172737872
>this mix of all the troops is good!
>this mix of all the troops is bad!
Literally the exact same shit, except a Daemon only army makes sense.

Lets be honest here you're wrong and thats that.
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>>172737695
Fucking amazing. Are these on youtube anywhere?
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will river and settlement battles return?
also seems odd that warhammer has no berserker units even if the races are complete barbars
but did anyone even like any of those three things?
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why is archaon the everchosen

why can't grimgor be a everchoesn
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>>172737943
HD here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9_N6xOJksY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtN1YK0hpJk
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>>172737619
Open seas are open seas. Fleets move freely through them, unless they get fucked up by weather effects (storms, currents, etc).
Every sea region has a fortress plonked in the middle of it. You fight to conquer the fortress and gain benefits like no attrition in that sea region and use of the facilities built in the fortress.

Really, there is no need for the Black Arks of the Delves to be able to move in TW2. They can just lay anchor.
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>>172737872
>divided chaos armies, they would have themed warriors and marauders and daemons
So now CA are making up entirely new units? That makes no fucking sense at all. Since its the last game most likely CA wont do 4 factions and it will just be Daemons, Chaos Dwarfs, Ogres but with a bigger focus on making the campaign better. They might slap in some generic human factions as well just to get more interest.
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>>172737942
chaos undivided usually exists only at the whim of very powerful mortals and daemons serve as auxiliaries

just random daemon mix makes some sense in a random chaos shitstorm kind of way, armies would be fucking awful
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>>172737960
Because GW are fucking hacks with no shame and terrible business practices.

In my heart, Grimgor > Archaon forever.
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>>172735036
>Arcani
>gladiator legions
>Amazons in greek-styled bronze armor
>Wolfshead Berserkers
>Egyptians equipped in a style outdated by 1000 years+

there's a reason why more than half the mods were inteded to introduce historical authenticity
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>>172737960
because the everchosyn has to hate being the everchosun, otherwise it doesn't work
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Gor
Bestigor
Kroxigor
Grimgor

GORS STRONG!
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>>172738030
>chaos undivided usually exists only at the whim of very powerful mortals and daemons serve as auxiliaries
Exactly. Archaon is going to get a whole new unique campaign and army just for him.

CA obviously dont like what they have for Chaos at all, and no one would complain if they changed up Warriors of Chaos since they are pretty fucking awful as a faction at the moment.
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>>172737993
Cheers. Based Danes.
Though the naval one isn't as satisfying really.
Could you reduce the reload speed dramatically rather than have a high projectile count?
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Which story campaign is more fun? Faggots or Poo?
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>>172738171
Afraid not, there's a hardcoded crew reload animation that you can't circumvent, believe me, i tried.
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>>172732808
I still wish he didn't have a bellybutton.
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>>172738269
How about the broadside positions?
I haven't played any naval battles in TW in fucking forever, but there are chase cannons on some boats right? Do they function as seperate broadside hitboxes?
Could you give a boat like ten seperate firing arcs on one side or something that just overlap?
Or can you only change certain numeric values that are already there like projectile count?
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>>172734802

>There is a big fucking difference.

The difference being that it's better than warhammer.
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>>172738435
Yeah, those are buried deep in modeling, the problem is that cannons don't fire once again unless the crew onboard has played their gun fapping animations, this counts for all guns.
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>>172738464
Good april fools joke anon-san
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so is warhammer 2 going to add to the map of the original game?
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>>172738464
>implying warhammer isnt the most groundbreaking innovating game to date
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>>172738603
no anon it wont

also it costs $120 and only rats are in the campaign
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>>172738603
you're going to be waiting on the sequel wagon like the rest of us historyfags now, buckle up.
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>>172738603

Yeah it looks pretty neat.
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>>172737820

All you have to do is is gag him and drip-feed him 2000 calories a day.
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>>172738603
>If you own both games there will be a combined map a few weeks after release, yes.
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>>172738526
Fair enough.
Can you change infantry to fire multiple projectiles as well?
I'm imagining firing in ranks obliterating everything but the back

>>172738603
At launch there will just be a new seperate map.
Combined world map will be the first free update after it, which they reassured would be weeks, not months after release.
They might have also specified but I can't remember whether you can play the combined map having just one pack or if you need both.
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>>172738724
Yeah, i've also tried multiplying cannon projectile speed by a factor of 20, they are basically railguns.
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>>172738643
I'm totally not a historical fag I swear
>>172738698
>>172738724
Okay
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So this... is the power.... of the night goblins...... whoa.........
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>>172738698
I bet thats the old friend dlc
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>>172738882
Is the update finally here?
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>>172738107
>Karak Ungor
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>>172738882
Well you fought them during daytime :^)
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>>172738724
>which they reassured would be weeks, not months after release.

It's not coming out 5 months after release it's coming out in 20 weeks :^)
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>>172738882
OH SHIT they want round 2 already, I might be fucked now guys.
Grimnir, inspire me to find a suitable cheesing position

>>172738919
No unfortunately, this is 1.1. WHEN IS THE UPDATE REEE
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>>172736479
I can play with you too, Canada here, Vermintide is fun steam?
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Goatman, Bullmen, Horsemen, etc = Beastmen
Lizardmen, Ratmen = not Beastmen

Really makes you think
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>>172732190
There's no reason at all, unless you're the type of underageb& retard who watches e-sports and thought Pewdiepie was good until he got popular.
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>>172735392
>Trump has so many blind followers

And Hillary and Anita Sarkeesian don't?
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>>172739332
Goatmen, bullmen, horsemen = exist
Lizardmen, ratmen = don't exist

Stupid fucking peasant.
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>>172735420
>Not having fun getting gear and playing everyone
> "Maining" Elf
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>>172739409
Nobody claimed they didn't but they're highly irrelevant at this point in comparison to the president of the USA
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>>172739209
forgot the pic like a retard
>That giant ass army they have in front one of my karak
Why is they AI so retarded, they could have sieged the fortress for 5 turns in a row since they had basically 5000 men there, but instead they wanked around not doing anything until I try to get close to my city and they attack the reinforcements.
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Vampire factions are the best, they are the most fun, have the best units and have Vlad so why even play as another race?
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>>172739516
Well, at least compared to Hillary, Trump is the lesser of two evils.
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>>172733189
i dont mind those free update that add new little contents like that , but i really want to see new maps , castle drachenfells and karak are so nice , i really want more
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>>172739573

>2516

Am I reading it wrong is this the amount of turns in your campaign?

Can the mod's campaigns last that long or is it just the chronological year?
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>>172733535
This is just poking fun. All the "you should be executed" shit is a bit tasteless and too far, but if you wanna post with us big bois on 4chan you gotta get used to being made fun of if you fuck up.
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>>172739452

post more of these
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5DY1xh0j4
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>>172739654
Firstly, that's debatable really. As it stands they're both looking about equal in terms of corruption. Secondly, that really doesn't have anything to do with the point.
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>>172734078
>even with the 'second' team its obvious its not getting the attention like Warhammer is
He said, with zero basis whatsoever.
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>>172739743
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>>172739743
I think ive saved every single on of them +Minor edits.

Ill dump them all.

Now that we have reached the end of TWW 1 life, lets recount all our fav. memes from the last year.
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>>172739761
Wow Turin actually looks like a nice human being, and not like rettad with mental problems aka Legend
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>>172737150
this , theres that anon that post his campaign of rome 1 from time to time and i really enjoy it , i dont yell on him for playing history , this meme would make sense on TWcenter but not here
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>post yfw warhammer 2 is early 1st aprils joke because CA thought it would be too obvious to relase it today so they did it yesterday
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>its a "faggots misunderstand black arcs as dark elven cities" episode re-run

Okay faggots listen us

Black Arcs aren't the dark elven cities
They have those in naggaroth
Thats where the children, women that are not blood lust bitches and old elves live at.

The black arcs are military vessels
They are not cities, they are floating fortresses.

Now please, the next time you say that Dark Elven cities should be migrant, eat a brick full of shit
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>>172739934
>rettad

You from Boston?
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>>172739918
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>>172739761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wrTqy_w-gw
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>>172738009

That isn't making up anything you drooling retard. The armies would share some common reskinned units like marauders and warriors but feature unique magic lores, daemons, lords and mechanics. It's easy to imagine a Khorne army would play like Greenskins while a Nurgle army would focus on slow corruption like Vampires.
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>>172740047

Is that guy a satire of pewdiepie?
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>>172739783
>both are equal in terms of corruption

What did he mean by this?
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>>172740021
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>>172735670
Chill, you dumb cunt.
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>>172740101
That guy is a satire of a human being. AKA an Australian.
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>>172740107
Take it to /pol/ and leave it there. This thread isn't for that shit.
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>>172739332
Well Beastmen just sounds better than hoofed animal-men. Or Ungulatemen.
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>>172740101
that guy a satire of human
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>>172740047
>Search around Youtube for a decent ERE campaign playthrough
>Legend abandons Constantinople to set up in Egypt instead


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post yfw skaven are given the major control of the southlands
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>reminder that Cathay , nippon and meme factions fag will never get what they want even with spamming for it
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>>172739332

Beastmen are mutated humans. Lizardmen and Skaven are different species entirely.
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>>172740047
Fuark this guy makes me ashamed to be an australian. What an absolute autist
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>>172740139
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>>172740269
lol fimir
last time they were acknowledged by GW, the Soviet Union still existed!
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>>172740269
gimme a quick rundown on the Fimir. why they squatted?
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>>172739415
he probably saw a beastmen with a rat like face , cant blame the peasant for having bad eyesight

>>172740347
well they still exist in the lore just not as a full army
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>>172740346
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>>172740346
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>>172739934
The only thing that annoys me about him is how he slurs some words together. Crypt Horrors in his pronounciation become "Kryptors" for example.
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>>172740421
too generic for the time , and they got replaced by beastmen bassicly

speaking of squat , they have been mentionned again in 40k , so it look like not all of them died and theres still space dwarfs around
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>>172730185
Varg loves his fantasy LARPing though.

He'd tell you to stop playing as Romans, Christians, Muslims etc.
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>>172740472
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>>172740269
Same goes for Chaos dwarfs and those daemon factions.
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>>172740624
except we know those are coming from the dlc leak , its just the order of release that got changed and we know it , daemons army and chaos dworfs are coming but as last
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>>172740569
Too generic? They were the only fully OC race GW ever made! They were unpopular cause they completely stuffed up the release and nobody played them as a result.
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>>172740614
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>>172740624
Daemon factions already confirmed, and for chaos dorfs, well nobody give a shit about them but, since each game going to have 4 Race (not factions) CA just have to put them

At least that make chaos dorfs fans happy (all 3 of them)
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>>172740725
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>>172740715

>OC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomorians
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>>172740698
>>172740748

The leak has been shown to be wrong, and says literally nothing we don't know already when CA say 16 factions are coming out. 16 factions doesn't mean 4 chaos daemon factions, it means one.
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>>172731218
If you don't find dinosaurs riding dinosaurs cool then you're beyond help.
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>>172740269
Who /hyped for warhammer 2/ but not 3?

Shreks, chorts and daemons.

Not feeling it. Maybe shreks a little. But I'm excited for all of warhammer 2's races.
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>>172740972
>Not excited for GNOBBOS
>Not excited for HOBGOBBOS

I pity you anon
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>>172740950
I don't talk about leak, CA literally say Chaos divided going to be in game 3
also no they say 16 RACES no factions
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>>172740817
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>>172740972
I want to play as Kislev and colonise not-Siberia.
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>>172730417
Even Darren is hyped and he hates Warhammer.
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>>172741081
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>>172740972
the interesting things about warhamner 3 will be the realm of chaos, the fact that you will finally be able to kick daemons and the way they are going to wrap up the trilogy with the complete megamap and its end scene
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>>172741207
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>>172739654
That's still an evil in the presidency, and so is worth challenging.
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>>172739573
1.5 open beta when?
REEEEEEE
I've not been able to play 1.0 or 1.01 as it constantly crashes after a few turns or in a battle.
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It's amusing watching Chaos do a war of maneuvers with me the past few turns. Because the little niggers are okay with doomstacking but god forbid their enemy do it.
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>>172741042
No, they said they want the 16 army books as of 8th edition, daemons have one army book. Chaos divided just means 'not warriors of chaos', it'll be an amalgam of all daemonic units.
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What elf flavor is best and why its Druchii?
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>>172741313
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>>172740269
how are they going to make daemons? each god only has what, 5 units?

>Khorne exclusive units
bloodletters, bloodthristers, flesh hounds, bloodcrushers, skull cannons

that's about it, that's everything Khorne has to offer. I think Nurgle has more units than the other gods but he only has like 8 different units.
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>>172741410
>those veiny tits

eh
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>>172741465
Veiny tits are best tits. Vampire-chan confirms.
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>>172741410
Easily the wood elves, they're a lot more frightening and alien than "lel good and evil elves".
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>>172741465
>those veiny whole body
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>>172740269

Tomb kings will be in the final release buddy, not Warhammer 2.

Also hobgoblin not playable factions is fairly likely since they'll have a bunch of hobgoblin units already with the dark lands in Warhammer 3.

>>172741365
At this point I think the empire needs to start digging a trench. My prediction is doomstack chaos moves back north to the ruins of kislev and sits around watching Sigvald masturbate.
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>>172741667
>Southland is in warhammer 2
>no tomb kings

wat
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>>172740581

The fuck he's always doing roman proverbs and sayings in his "pagan readings"

What a dumb faggot
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>>172740269
Araby will be the pre order bonus.
Tomb Kings will be a Campaign pack months after launch with the first paid DLC being a lord pack similar to Dwarf and Warlord. Possibly for a Lizardman subfaction in the southlands and Skaven in the old world.
They already confirmed the combined map will happen as part of the very first update "a few weeks, not months" after launch.
>>172741431
Like this. pic related
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>>172741667

Yeah buddy they added the Southlands because they're making an Araby DLC I bet
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>>172741635
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>>172741465
Veins are near the surface to help cooling
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>>172741359
It's actually pretty stable for me with the patch, it only crashes once in a while, although I noticed an increase in crashes as I get further in the campaign. But I can't really be sure so far

>>172739728
That seems to be the current year, a campaign seems actually 400 or so turns long max
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Guys how do i play huge battles well?
I mostly fight only small ones for fun but the longer game goes the more units are recruited and i just auto-resolve because i am too scared that i will fuck it up like a fag.
It doesn't help that the loading times absolutely kill me inside.
Wat do?


Also why is Wurrzag is the best Greenskin starter
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>>172739743
If anyone else has more I would appreciate it, will dump all I have
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>>172741707
I dont think we going to get whole "africa" in game 2
Probably just south southland, for rats and lizards fights
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>>172741748

i prefer hot women but hey to each his own
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>>172741736

>that pic

That's not worth 60 euros, CA better give a good reason to buy the third game at full price
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>>172740878
Well CONGRATULATIONS, you've proved me wrong. What's the next step in your grand plan?
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>>172741815
Ogres and chaos dorks
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>>172741824
CRASHING THE EMPIRE , WITH NO SURVIVORS !
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>>172741815
+ ogres + chaos dwarfs + tying the final grand campaign together with whatever revision of mechanics they do.
Worth if done well I says
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>>172741736
>slaughterbrute

oh WG
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>>172741707


http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Southlands
>The Southlands is a large, tropical continent located far to the south of the Old World, beyond the mysterious realm of Araby and the Land of the Dead.


http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Southlands
>The Southlands is a continent to the south of Araby. It is believed to have once been attached to the continent of Lustria; as they share many species of plants and animals. However, they are now separated by the Great Ocean, or the World Pond as it is known to the Lizardmen.2 p72

The southlands is usually distinguished from Araby/Tomb King territory on maps.

If they are going with the "4 main factions for a standalone warhammer game" then they need a final 4th for the last in the trilogy.

Last release: Tomb Kings, Chaos Dwarfs, Ogre Kingdom, Daemons.
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First hint at the campaign map

>dem meso american ruins
>dat jungle
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>>172741786

Considering they're combining the maps that seems highly unlikely unless they're going to add a giant invisible wall to 1/3 of the map
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>>172741784
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>>172741916

>with whatever revision

Yeah like adding basic fucking animations like reloading for ranged units
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>>172741859
and map expansion into Dark lands, Mountains of Mourn,Dragon Isles and Chaos waste northern expansion. Possibly even the Realm of Chaos itself.
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>>172741919
*GW, even

>>172741972

i wonder how they're gonna spread out the skaven settlements.
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>>172741982
>Perfect for gobbos
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>>172741972

It would make more sense to me that they want to release all the races ASAP to draw in as many WH fans as possible and then start shitting out Lord and Unit packs for them
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>>172742001

they could just have a big DESERT: NO TRESPASSING sign and leave it at that
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Is it okay to like the historical games?
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>played TW since TW:R
>TW:W is literally my dream game
>it gets an expansion that adds tons of new shit and new races
>mfw historycucks' tears
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>>172742001
Well we know for sure this was the original plan.
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>>172742247

that's a really small ocean
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>>172742073
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>>172742217

if you acknowledge that they're not actually very historical
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>>172732336
Wasn't Chaos the "5th race" though?
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>>172742205

I think you're underestimating how big Araby and the Land of the Dead are. You would end up with a massive invisible wall on one side of the map and force Old World races to sail all the way to Ulthuan to get to the Southlands.

I would expect Nekehara blocked off until the DLC launches while Araby would be ingame as a pit-stop for players travelling South.
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>>172742224
>played TW since TW:R
I don't believe you
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>>172742437

Why does that have to be acknowledged? Do you think it's gonna make lizard people factions look less embarrassing?
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>>172742001
>>172742205
>>172742316
The combined map will cut down the overall size of regions so say goodbye to those aesthetically pleasing but utterly useless huge regions and provinces with 1 town and nothing else. Empire is riddled with them.

They will no doubt go the route of their plan for the New World campaign which is a slightly larger map than the base game but 33% more conquerable regions by cutting down the sizes of provinces and the sea's.
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>>172741735
His latest video talked a lot about how the Romans destroyed great pagan cultures in gaul and germania. He seemed quite critical of them.
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>>172742331
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Expect content soon
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>>172742631
>aesthetically pleasing

meh, were they really?
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>>172742572
Your pretensions should be embarrassing, yet here you are.
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>>172742659
That looks pretty ballin'
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>>172742659
hey alright
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>>172740047
How great is this man. More proof Australians are the most powerful race in the world, including based malteasers like Legend.
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>>172732989
Or you are fucking retarded
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Another point to add >>172741972 is that every faction promised so far has a presence in the new world. The Skaven I am not sure, Pestilens was once in Lustria but was thrown out but I swear I've seen a map with a

Tomb Kings would have no presence in the new world.

>>172742182

Personally if we're looking at another major army book release I'd expect Daemons more than Tomb Kings. With the importance of the Vortex in beating back the original chaos daemon war, the importance of Daemons in the elf's histories. It would make sense as part of the final moments of the vortex campaign that you maybe have to hold off some daemon flood. How/where the player would be Daemons before the vortex event is a mystery, but it's no more of a mystery than where will Daemons be in a campaign based on the dark lands - at least the northern wastes above naggaroth have a bit more presence in the story of the world than the northern wastes above the dark lands.

Admittedly the Tomb Kings do have more of a relationship with Lizardfolk than with Chaos dwarfs or ogre kingdoms. But their relationship in general is more insular or related to the vampire counts than to anyone else.

And also remember the vortex storyline. Why would tomb kings be interested in going across the sea and not just farting around in their desert lands being irritable at people stealing their shit?

>>172742510

I'd see maybe Araby being added with this but the tomb kings kept out for the final expansion. Think about it, if the final one is a standalone with just chaos dwarfs, ogre kingdoms and daemons it will not have as much marketability as if it has four brand new factions. Why shoot the load of the tomb kings early?

Yeah the 3rd release could have maybe a return of regular dwarfs or orks or whatever but that would
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>>172732515
Giant objects in the oceans.
They already confirmed there will be "sea based events" which will be discussed around E3 time in June.
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>>172742845
Watch your language!
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>>172742776

It's really difficult to not be pretentious when talking about warhammer. I would have looked down on this shit when I was 8.
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>>172742654
last one U feel like uploading.
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>>172742631
>unironically expecting them to remodel the whole map as opposed to leaving it as it is and just cutting down on the minor factions
ISHYGDDT
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>>172740347
>>172740424
Fimir are in the 8th edition Storm of Magic supplement, rules and all. And Forge World have new and current models for them (with AoS scrolls I think). They're more lone swamp monster or monster band than fully fledged race now.
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How the fuck are the Slann special rules gonna translate to Warhammer 2?

Given what we've had so far, the main benefit they actually have (being Loremaster of High magic and thus gettting access to ALL the spells from it) is something that all mages get in TWW for whatever lore they are wizards of.

The only thing I can think of is abilities to reset the CD's of spells, which is only a custom battle feature at the moment (or atleast I've never had one drop in the campaign) or maybe a special ability that buffs spell damage - though I wonder if that's even possible because they haven't added it yet.

Mazdamundi used to have his own unique spell, but as that was removed in 8E I doubt we'll see it.
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>>172742536
sure
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so any reason they gave the dark elves girl a 80's rock band girl look ?
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>1492
>Estalian explorer Marco Columbo discovered Lustria
Really, GW? Jesus Christ.
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>>172742909
Your retarded exaggerated claims don't really help your case, they just expose you as the dumb pretentious cunt that you are. I'm sorry it has to be an anonymous stranger on the internet that tells you this, but son, you're not smart or educated just because you like your digital toy soldiers looking like something out of your middle school history books.
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>>172742316
if theres no naval combat then its still too large
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>>172742659
Now that`s what I call ... Total War™
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>>172743104

what else were they gonna do, make them not look like dark elves?
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>>172743104
Probably because they were designed by nerds in the 80's.
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>>172743104
Because that's how witche elves look like?
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>>172743141
what , please dont tell me they actually wrote that
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>>172743104
A e s t h e t i c
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>More fantasy shit
>Here I am waiting for FOTE

/twg/ has changed
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>>172742217
I hope the historical team is disbanded and the fantasy team expanded, so they can bring us Total War: 40K, Warcraft, Starcraft, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Song of Ice and Fire and Malazan Book of the Fallen.
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>>172743215

lol
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>>172742859

But you're under the pretense that Daemons will be an undivided unique faction and not a separation of Chaos into individual factions. We already know from the leaks that separation was the original plan - whether or not they have changed it now is pure speculation.

Undivided is far less marketable when the majority of Chaos players like to jerk off over their favourite god.
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The 4 grand campaigns:

Old World(base game)=Unique map of Old World

New World(Expac 1)= Unique map of Ulthuan,Naggaroth,Lustria and Southlands(I assume this will include land of the dead and araby?)

Dark Lands (Expac 2)=Unique map of Darklands, Mountains of Mourn and small land extension of Chaos Wastes.

Whole World(combination of all 3 and their DLC's if you own them)= Unique cut down world map incorporating every bit of content you own and scaling it so it all fits. Some non playable minor factions and large useless regions will disappear permanently for optimisation and resource allocation reasons.

So think pic related with more conquerable regions due to cutting down excessive sized areas and smaller map extensions.
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>>172743231

She looks like an albino nigger
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kislev pisses me off
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>>172743046
what we really need is

>wizard lords add to the amount of magic reserves, the total amount of mana you can store, and increase the recharge rate, even after casting several spells - the amount they add changes based on how powerful they are.

>wizard heroes don't do any of this, other than with the ability they currently get.

I'm surprised this isn't already a thing in game desu - Gelt doesn't have any bonus over a regular lore of metal caster, does he? Atleast before he gets his staff.
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>>172743209
arent they supposed to have black hair and like spike armor ?
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>>172743250
>history shitter whining over fantasy

/twg/ sure hasn't changed at all.
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>"skaven undivided" will be the preorder faction
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>tfw you're not a cheap fag and have an SSD so the whole MUH LOADTIMES argument just makes you roll your eyes
Instead of having a grand, detailed map it will be cut down to cater towards the poorfags
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>>172743104
This is how my mom looked back in the 90's

Really makes me think
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>>172743267
All of those would suck. Even if you disregard that fact they'd never let anyone els makes money off their brands, WC and SC have been shit for years and didn't have much unit or faction variety before then. Star Wars and armies makes no sense, LotR isn't about battles here and there, GoT is about dysfunctional royalty. No idea about Book of the Fallen, sounds like some shit nobody's read. Warhammer is really one of the few fantasy settings that works for TW.
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>>172743104
Witch Elves are literally 80s glam rockers
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>>172743379
They're even not white/humanly, their skin color is pale purple.
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>>172743483
It'd be nice if the number of factions included was simply a campaign/game option like unit size.
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>>172743483
I haven't seen anyone complain about load times for several days.
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>>172743309
>Badlandsbowl enters a new season with the third expansion
I'z reddy, boyz.
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>>172743309
This is the best map and that's why it's not going to happen.

Although it could do with some chaos stuff north of Naggaroth and maybe a small Silver Pinnacle Vampire faction up near Karak Kadrin.
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>>172743215
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Marco_Colombo
oh so he's actually Tilean
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>>172743379
Not really. They're supposed to use hair spray.
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>>172743309
they did mention that in the vortex campaign you can conquer anywhere though.

I think they regret regional occupation and have realised that the only way a grand campaign with the whole world would work is by letting everyone conquer everywhere.

This would take a lot of work making maps is the only thing.
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What's the cheapest I can get TW:W + DLC for? Should I just wait until there's a Gold Edition or GOTY Edition with everything in it?
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>>172743379
The hair didn't go FAR ENOUGH
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>>172742859

Whoops, I meant to say I swore I've seen a map with one or two Lizard cities owned by Skaven. Also Tomb Kings' real major nemesis would be Daemons if not Nagash or the like.

For DLC factions I'd expect for one Dogs of war. They have an army book, even if it's a dated one, already unique voiceovers.
Maybe be a cross-game DLC, where if you own it Tilea/Estalia become playable in the old campaign but are also playable in the Estalian colonial form. Or CA just doesn't give a fig about making them playable in the old campaign. Amazons are possible but I don't know where or what army list they had. Vampire coast is likely since they had an army list of some form (even if bare bones, no pun intended).

Someone got a map or whatever with what polities exist in the new world?

>>172743294

The leak also had Skaven being a separate DLC and not part of the new world expansion and being released after the tomb kings. It's a real stretch to think CA might pull some ruisecruise of "Let's show a rat at the end of the trailer" and then go "Whoops the 4th faction is actually Tomb kings, skaven are a DLC"

The leak also has a map that does not feature the southlands beyond Tomb King territory, it didn't list Bretonnia as a DLC release, and it doesn't make any sense how they could add Chaos Dwarfs and Ogre Kingdoms as separate DLC without having the map expand there
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>>172743379
No, that artwork is from an MMO where they have spiky armour because they need a way of making armour progress in epicness as you get to a higher level.
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>>172743769

also not enough skulls. big fashion miss
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>>172743771

Nm, it did mention Bretonnia as part of the Wood elves DLC.
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>>172743771
Skaven are the preorder bonus, calling it now.
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>>172743752
>it's blob or be blobbed
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>>172743379
Black hair and spikey bikini armour is the Delf sorceress look.
Witch Elves have platinum or pink & purple shaded hair.
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>>172741783
REPSOND PLS
REPSOND PLS
REPSOND PLS
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>>172743876
>using /gsg/ lingo
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>>172743309
Shouldn't Lahmia be vampire? There should also be a Lizardman temple in the jungle next to Rasetra aswell as the tower of Nagash across from Lahmia. In that little enclosed bay. I also doubt CA would waste the map space with large swathes of nothingness in the land of the dead. So probably add 2-3 settlements there aswell.
That map looks really cool though.
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>>172743938
Just fight them you pussy.
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>>172743978
Well, I am a /gsg/ transplant.
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>the world is larger and more diverse than ever
>I still don't have to leave my forest
>>
I would like in the big campaign map for certain factions to start with more than 1 town. I'd love if the A.I Empire started with all of Reikland, Dwarves with all of their region, and so on.

I'm okay with some of the minor factions being trimmed. The whole appeal of the large map for me is the potential variety, and a lot of the shitty minor factions just provide a barrier to that variety.
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>>172741783
Watch this anon
>ARMY MOVEMENT! - Total War: Warhammer Beginners Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKekrN6XXoU

Also:
>FORMATION GUIDE! - Total War: Warhammer Beginners Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxk6T3Y8e8
>FLANKING GUIDE! - Total War: Warhammer Beginners Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El97p0cnU2M

And the rest of his series generally:
>BATTLE GUIDE! - Total War: Warhammer Beginners Guide - Zerkovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWrZA2-Uc98&list=PLfHby7DEo3iFnHeF8Lm-MgJhw3r4eUvFT
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>>172743531
Malazan Book of the Fallen is (usually) about infantry surviving massive battles with gods and magic and shit.
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>>172743309
Spot on. That does appear to be what they are intending. I'm rather excited. Only games that I'm legit hyped for.
>>172743752
The Old World only had regional occupation due to GW's demands because its a heavy lore area. All the other areas of the world don't have as much apart from the main factions homelands.
They will likely remove the occupation rule for the combined map but obviously keep it for the Old World grand campaign which by the way was changed from "Warhammer Campaign" prior to the Bretonnia release with the old world patch.
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>>172744006
that's not help
REEEEEE
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>>172743309
It's literally the Beginning of the End Times map except their map is a lot more lore accurate.

BotET confirmed for side project of CA devs, that's why it takes so long.
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Thaggoraki? More like FAGgoraki!

Queek Headtaker? More like QUEER Headtaker!

KAZOO!
>>
Total War: Warhammer: Sengoku Jidai
when
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>settra is old and a good friend
So he's definitely FLC, right?
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>>172743771

Many things have changed since the leak but my point was that as far as we know CA have at least planned to separate Chaos into 4 factions. That plan may have changed, it may not have, but an End Times-themed expansion with Chaos being split into individual armies would sell better than Chaos Dwarfs and Ogres in my opinion. Chaos is probably the second most popular faction in both 40K and Fantasy.
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>>172744125
But anon. The world roots allow you to travel to forests in other lands!
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>>172744221
The only way to get comfortable with something is to continually fuck it up until failure no longer bothers you, goofus.
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>>172739332
>
Lizardmen were created as a slave race to the old ones and were a tool for whatever purposes the old ones wanted to do. The skaven were a human tribe in now-skavenblight who got super duper cursed somehow by nurgle probably. The beastmen were just humans and animals who got fucked over and mutated when the old ones portals collapsed and the chaos winds blew everywhere
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>>172744436
giev tips tho bro
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>>172744302

chaos is for fags
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>>172744280
Dorfs-things? More like DORKS-THINGS!
LMAO LMAO
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>>172744280
>QUEER Headtaker!
Could've done Queer Headgiver, bit dissapointed in you desu anon
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>>172741735
he lives in the woods in france larping with his wife. he isnt exactly looked upon as a rolemodel by normal people
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>>172744471
This tbqh

A-symmetry triggers my autism
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>>172744282
>The eastern Warhammer factions will never be playable in any game.
End me.
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>172731786
I recomend Inept Genetral, if you want to lore-up on warhammer. He is like Arch but without everything that makes him onboxious
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>>172743853

But still what would a 4th expansion that is just Daemons look like? Just the chaos wastes and realm of chaos as a map? Maybe Naggaroth, Uthulan and the Old world north of the badlands? To have chaos dorfs and ogres you'd need the dark lands hanging like a dick from the chaos wastes. Which seems like a really weird map layout.

I guess by the leak it's hard to argue with wh_exp2_[chaos gods]. I guess I can see it working if you have a narrow rectangular map of the darklands up into the chaos wastes and the realm of chaos at the poles. Alternatively if they don't mind covering old territory again having the map be like this. Red for having old territory (the idea of daemons having only chaos dwarfs, dwarfs, orks and ogres to fight seems odd to me. I normally think of them as fighting humans and elves in particular), blue if it's only new territory.


>>172744302

The thing is, is it Daemon chaos that is popular or human chaos? I'm a little surprised because a quick glance does say Daemons are more popular than chaos space marines, and I expected chaos space marines or chaos humans to be more popular.
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>>172743104
Because this is how models look like? I like it better than plain black hair.
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>>172744594
If shes the best elf, why wasn't she in the last game
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>>172742247
I heard people saying they are gonna remake the entire map for the mega campaign. But why? Just mash the original ones together, much better.
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>>172744594
I've missed a couple of threads, nice to see you actually changed it.
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>>172744469
Save and reload if you fail.
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>>172744628

man the high and dark elves try so damn hard
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>>172743764
Anyone?
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>>172730071
Total War: The Thirty Years War when?

Yesterday they came up with this fantasy shit up, again.
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>>172743379
No.
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>>172744569
His schizophrenic French wife who records videos in the forest where she explains her insane theories about history, religion, symbolism etc. while being unable to look into the camera.
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>>172744701
that's save scumming, anon
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>>172743863
>Chaos was preorder DLC
>Chaos was teased in the end of the first trailer

>Skaven got teased in the end of the second trailer

wtf, I hate CA now!
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>>172744742
G2A, although the DLC is still almost full price on there. It's only just been on sale too, so don't expect another for a while.
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>>172744742
50% off Sale was like mouth ago
And no dont wait for "Gold edition" because it's not going to happen
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>>172744302
Separating chaos into 4 factions isn't the same as having 4 different factions though, is it?

All the chaos undivided units will be mostly the same with small bonuses added depending on the God.

If the last game only did that it'd be lazy as shit, that probably takes the work of 1 and a half factions.

Ogres were actually one of the most popular armies in fantasy, just as popular as chaos, and Chaos Dwarves were pretty popular for a forge world army.
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>>172744660

They said it's more complicated than that, and doing so would lead to insane load times or other issues. Course if they would let us know how to edit the map ourselves we could fix it, but Gameworkshops would reeeee enough to create a new chaos god if it meant people being able to heavily modify their game (and the whole rule they stipulated about mods only being allowed to keep within warhammer fantasy)

Now I have the terrifying thought that instead of daemons the last expansion might be sigmarines

It won't be but maybe a future total war will be
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>>172744876

I guess it would depend on how much work they put into differentiating them. If Nurgle Marauders were just normal guys with green armour I'd be pissed, but if they had unique models and animations I could forgive the sameyness.
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>>172744758
They look good in both fantasy and history.
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>>172743752
They solved the regional occupation problem with the Wood Elf outpost system. That way you can still paint the map and feel like conquest is a satisfying accomplishment (rather than a pest extermination exercise,) but not heavily defend/settle provinces of the wrong racial type.

Some Lustrian & Southland settlements may only be outpost or low-tier possible settlements for non-tropical races. Only rats, gobbos, and lizards getting full tier jungle settlements.
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How do you actually get out of the starting shittiness as Bretonnia as Loeun Leoncur on very hard?
Tried like 15 times and always get Mariendburgd or Orcd to insignificance.
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>>172743938
The stack your using should be based on the tactics you use so you should know how to fucking fight a battle.

Do you just recruit the most expensive units without thinking about how you'll use them in a battle?
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>>172745141
no, i mix stuff
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>>172732808
Why the fuck does he have a navel?
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A friend just got Waehammer, do you guys have any suggestions for the best coop experiences? I haven't played since beastmen came out, i guess something like brettonia and empire?
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>>172744594
>there will be porn of Morathi
YEEES
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>>172744628
Funny how the no-fun-allowed crowd realised that having hair spray was impossible in a fantasy world and retconed this >>172743727 into long natural flowing Witch hair.

Stand up hair could have been a magic hairstyle done by a spell each monring.
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>>172744628
I only consider models from editions 1-6 to be canon.
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>>172745183

You will have to pause with huge unless you have starcraft 1 god of micro-management skills. It's just the nature of huge battles especially with the breakneck pace of warhammer (Even with the most popular combat mod it's still lightning fast for me), the high need to micro with spells and such, and the AI being always better than you at it.

If you're fighting chaos then you're just going to get raped regardless because of their sixty nigger chariots and warhounds and marauders. It's like someone tried to figure out how to make the most godawful enemy to face. Numidian light cavalry or Hunnic horse archers coupled with roman legionaries with the bite of varangians coupled with gothic knight cataphracts coupled with war elephants coupled with scythed chariots that actually aren't dogshit.
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>>172744594
>tfw just like wood elf poster you going to disappear, after game release...

At least we have goblin poster he is ETERNAL
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About to do the Wood Elf mini-campaign, any tips or things i should know about?
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>>172745003
>but if they had unique models and animations I could forgive the sameyness.
you're a dipshit if you think that's ever happening.

I doubt the elf factions will even get unique animations from each other.

Why would they even have unique animations? It's not like each god has it's own fucking martial arts school (though maybe khorne might).

At most we'll get slightly different models and minor stat differences.
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>>172739332

Simple really.
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what's the easiest faction to play guys? Not played a TW in since Rome 2 at launch
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>>172744594
For the Queen!
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>>172745475
DONT rush to upgrade oak of ages, its trigger beastmen
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>>172745409
>If you're fighting chaos then you're just going to get raped regardless because of their sixty nigger chariots and warhounds and marauders.
except you know who you're at war with so you can just recruit units that counter them?

Most factions have decent anti-large that's fairly easy to come by.
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>>172745409
I'm rolling Wurrzag and Grimgor duo through the map so i am mostly counting on mass fuckage if they both get WAAAGH.
Still like you said, AI has superior micro so i have no idea how to deal with big battles
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>>172745475
don't upgrade the meme tree
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>>172745586
Warriors of chaos.
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KARL FRANZ

Why does your emperor have such a shit army?
Why is he only level 6?
Why is he in fucking Norsca?

It's the first time I see him in Norsca, he's always chilling in the Empire dealing with Rebels and shit. I saw Thorgrim in the border of the chaos wastes once though, that was super weird.
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>>172745586
In Warhammer? Dwarfs
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>>172745586
Vampires or Dwarfs
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>>172745606
>>172745680
Thanks, who should i try and attack first?
All the elves seem fairly friendly and defensive.
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>>172745586
Vampire Cunts.
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>>172745513

If you look in a mirror you should get a good idea of how a Nurgle knight would move.
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What's the difficulty ranking for the warhammer races?
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>>172745749
>Why does your emperor have such a shit army?
>Why is he only level 6?
>Why is he in fucking Norsca?
Because you are playing as Chaos, at war with the Empire and the AI only plays to fuck you over (they also know your location all the time)

It's one of the big problems of Chaos campaign
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>>172745586
beastmen, dwarf and chaos
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>>172745812
You don't attack your elf brothers
You go on wild hunt for dirty humans
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>>172745586
If you want to learn to play well I'd pick empire.

If you want to just stomp shit I'd pick Chaos. You get the next tier up of infantry at turn 2 whilst everyone else has to wait 20-30 turns or so (apart from dwarves).
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>something like 7,000 years old
>highly successful career man
>one of the most politically and financially powerful individuals to ever exist
>still lives with his mom
Is King Baconface our guy?
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>>172745974
>>172745812
don't listen, blitz other elves as quick as possible
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>>172745675

Until the chariot just smashes through your halberdiers or greatswords bracing (or even counter-charging) and merrily farts over to the squishy artillery or crossbowmen/gunners/ect behind you. Or your halberdiers get blown apart by hellcannons whose single shots take out 20 men at a time.

What would you recommend an empire stack be to deal with Chaos? I know 2-3 Demi-Gryphs, the chain-volley gun, mortar or hellfire rockets, a tank. How many greatswords, how many handgunners if any, how much artillery in total.
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>>172745812
Attack a weak elf faction to take their base with 10 slots and try, and try to make the humans your vassals
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>>172730627
>paradox
>accurate
xDDDD DEAMON CHILDREN HAHA CULTISTS XDDD SEDUCE A HORSE!!! NORSE EMPIRESSSSS IN INDIAAA
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Fanfags will pay $120 for the same again, but with blue orcs this time
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>>172745914
EASY TIER

Dorfs, Beastmen

NORMAL TIER

Bretonnia, Vampirers, Chaos, Greensins

HARD TIER

Gobboz, Belegar, Elfs

PAINFUL TIER

EMPIRE OF MAN!
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>>172746121
He doesn't live with her, she lives with him!
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>>172746249

Beastmen are easy? I figured they'd be godawful.
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>>172746249
>Empire
>Hard
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>>172746161
Empire Knights supported by Halberdiers is the simplest way, and cannons can snipe a few chariots before they get close.
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>>172745812
at least 3 of your elven brothers will get invited by Morghur into fighting you (in VH), numbers may change, so get assembling an army

get on the deffensive or strike them down fast if you know which ones will backstab you
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>>172746281
Beastmen get to hide anywhere, meaning worst case scenario, you just have your horde camp it out somewhere safe to replenish and then target some defenceless village.
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Wasn't Malekith supposed to be riding a dragon?
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>>172746281
You just go, kill, rape and pillage, not even have to bother about anything
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>>172746419

So it's gorilla warfare? I guess they could be easy on campaign but hard in battle.

>>172746358

How much cavalry total would you recommend? I tended towards around 4-5 or so. 2-3 Demi, 2 Reiks, then sometimes 1-2 outriders but they are kinda ehh against chaos because of the ubiquity of the chariots or hounds.
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>>172746281

You're in a permanent hidden ambush mode, you get an instant 50-100% army replenish every 6 turns and amazing units like minotaurs and Cygors.

Also Khazrak and Morghur are really good.
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>>172746281
>press Stealth encampment
>AI instantly forgets you exist and leaves you alone while you recover
You also get a FREE Gorebull on turn 3, which turns any lord/hero into mincemeat

only way to do such a thing

>>172746438
He can also go on foot, makes no sense to bring a huge dragon on an "epic stealth mission"
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Do Elves suck, or am i just bad?
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>>172746560
>>172746514

Well hell the DLC sounds fun now. I'm just too much of a cheap grudge-book jew to buy them or the wood elves till it's on sale. I had this picture in my head that beastfolk were shit units and wood elves were all paper mache but someone here or on tg said their eternal guard or some guard thing were reliable infantry of the line.
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>>172746608
Always assume the latter.
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>>172746608
you are just bad
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>>172746608
Elves do suck but you are probably bad
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>>172746684
I do, but i'm having more trouble with the Elves than any other faction
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>>172746501
If you're fielding an army against Chaos specifically, go full Cavalry. They don't spam enough Anti-Large to deal with you. Demigryph spam to deal with their chariots and hold the main lines, Empire Knights to hunt down the Hellcannons, some Outriders to harrass the Anti-Large and you're set.


Obviously this requires a lot of micro
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>>172746719
>Literally just an army of swordsmen
Wow, i wonder why you won :^)
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Are there any mods that invent a human non chaos horde faction? Some sorta mercenary horde thing? Only found some half assed bretonnian mod thing called The Grand March.

I am so sick of the same old "babysitting the mudhuts" gameplay for 60 turns. Beastshits was bretty cool to play but I don't really like their poo poo pee pee aesthetic all that much.
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>>172746501
Literally as many vanilla Empire Knights as you can afford. They're ~relatively~ cheap heavy cav and the goal is to field them en masse. You want to catch a chariot charge with your own and then move Halberdiers around to trap them. Some missile units would be wise to keep axe throwers from raping your units, and then Warrior Priest for replentishment and wizard to taste.
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>>172746719
I bet it was hard fight anon
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>>172746874
I remember seeing a mod which brought the Grudgebringers as a horde faction (Mercenaries of the "good" races basically), but I can't attest for its quality

Search the workshop for Grudgebringers and you'll eventually find it
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>>172746608
Elves are really fucking strong in field battles. Seriously excellent. Not as good as most other factions for sieges though.
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>>172746501
>hard in battle.
You can easily stack bonuses to make your units insane, still, they are fragile

You also have a very decent chance to turn any attacking battle into an ambush, which is an easy win
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>>172739452
>>172739743
>>172741784
>>172739918
gotta need a Malekith version soon
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>>172746121
>>172746254
They live in different cities.
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>>172746986
>>172746501

OR shit on infantry all together. Do that but use Demigryph Knights instead of Halberdiers to catch the trapped units
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>>172746121
He is not, he lives in Naggarond while mommy lives in Ghrond, she visits him only for sex.
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Wood Elves or Beastmen? Can't get both because I just blew the rest of my money on the last few PC parts I needed.
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>>172747279
Elves are fun.
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>>172747279

Beastmen is way funner
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>>172747279
skarsnik is the most fun
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>>172747279
POO PEE
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>>172733062
I have had some very interesting games with 15 units of thunderers, a thane, and some cannons.
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>>172747279
Elves are pretty fun, but hard to play.
Beastmen are alright, but fairly easy
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>>172745957
>It's one of the big problems of Chaos campaign
nah this led to some of the most enjoyable battles in my chaos campaign.

You get like 3-4 empire factions sending stacks of shitty swordsmen at you. Chosen fighting off hundreds of shitty empire swordsmen whilst Kholek runs rampage through their whole army is awesome.

It also makes sense, it stops you turtling in the Chaos Wastes all game. You know when chaos comes in your non-chaos campaigns, it's only fair that the AI know when chaos is coming when you're playing chaos yourself.
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>>172747279
MOOOOOOOOO
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>>172747279
Wood Elves = Master race, hard to play but extremely rewarding

Beastmen = POO POO PEE PEE
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>>172747279
Elves are better overall
But Beastmen have the most fun units in minotaurs
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>>172739846
>My HORNS edit became the official one.

I feel proud of contributan.
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>>172746758

That would be neat to try, real charge of the rohirrim. Would you recommend concentrating all my best units into a single stack? I had my demi gryphs shared out about 6-8 total maybe between 2-3 stacks (So 2-3 per stack). My fault is probably that I was thinking how I would make a realistic traditional total war army, not a warhammer army. I should try >>172746986

So change my thinking and have less of a battle line with infantry of the line and more a battle line of cavalry, with 2 halberdiers and 2 gunners to protect the artillery (3 or so of them). So 6-8 knights at a minimum? Only as much infantry as I need to defend the artillery emplacement (maybe 2 handguns, 2 halberdiers, 2 greatswords)?

Thanks for the tips.
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>>172747279
>Elves
Fun campaign, Good and big roster, fun units, new mechanics, probably the most unique faction in the game

>Beastmen
Unique campaign, Good horde mechanics, minotaurs are the most fun unit in the game, really small roster

I think Elves are better for the cost.
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>>172746161
I think you're confused.

Regular chaos doesn't spam chariots, Norsca does, and they can't take hellcannons.

Against regular chaos you need a good mix of shit, but most of your infantry should be halberds. I'd take a lot of handgunners and at least 2 cannons though.

Against chariot spam just spam halberds and you'll be fine.
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>>172747063
> Not as good as most other factions for sieges though.
How?

I don't even own elves but dwarves rape shit in sieges because they have decent ranged units, I would've though elves would do the same.
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>>172747389
Why does Khazrak look way worse than this in game?
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>>172747976

Norscans were annoying but manageable, the chariots just being an irritation. Chaos just felt like..well, fucking brutal chaos. They spread their line out and it just becomes this chaotic mess that mitigates my ability to use combined arms. Really almost impressive that the AI for Chaos does an amazing job with both a balanced army and with battlefield tactics.


But you said a mix of shit - what about the folks saying more cavalry is key vs chaos? They fucking face-melt chevroned halberdiers I feel like, I'm starting to think more a strategy of just enough infantry to fortify my artillery (Usually 1 cannon 1 hellsomething missile 1 mortar sometimes 1 chaingun othertimes chaingun instead of mortar) and then having a lot more cavalry to do a fluid charge-retreat on their infantry. Not even try to hold a battle line against them.
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>night goblins
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Encountering issues but pressing on
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>>172748540
>being a toaster fag
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>>172748391
>Minimum settings
>tyool 2016
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>>172747279

My only nitpick with wood elves is that I can't run archer armies
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>>172748589
kek, good luck running the same thing
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>>172749002
okay I will what did you have running?
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>>172749124
you'll find out
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>>172748387
Well I usually play a gunpowder empire style.

Get a fair amount of arty, quite a few handgunners, a steam tank or 2 and then some cheaper infantry to hold the line. Hellstorms & Mortars are shit vs chaos though. Just bring cannons.

I also usually bring a wizard because they synergize really well with steam tanks.
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>>172737513
Darkshards are repeater AP crossbows which will probablybe pretty good at shredding units. They can also take shields like Quarellers meaning their lack of range probably won't be much of an issue compared to High Elves as they can trade much more effectively with other skirmishers.

Black Ark Corsairs are really tanky infantry with decent damage output and missile resistance so their lack of a shield is sort of negated by their armour and missile resistance when it comes to facing Missile Troops

Witch Elves are going to be top tier if you can flank them around, otherwise they will probably lose to most high tier units. Sisters of Slaughter will probably be more elite versions of them

Bleakswords are Elven sword'n'board infantry which is unique among Elves. In TW:WH I expect they will beat High Elf spearmen unless they implement spearwall for High Elves(pls CA) and will probably beat most other infantry units of simmilar tier besides Dorf Warriors.

Cold One Knights are just better Lizardmen Cold One Cavalry as far as I can tell.

Medusas and Hydras are pretty unique as monsters, along with the Kharybdiss.

That's basically all the "Unique" units the Edge Elves have. Everything else is basically a parrallel to the High Elves.
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>>172744832
You want to git gud at this game? Then you're gonna have to fucking try and accept failure and try again next battle, or savescum until you win this one. There aren't any elitists looking over your shoulder in singleplayer, so what're you afraid of?
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>>172749214

Are vanilla handgunners good enough for that? I found them somewhat wanting. but I'm also unsure of how to put them into the battle line. I saw someone do a kind of Roman checkerboard system with the 2nd line being gunners. I've liked having the chain-gun artillery with two handgunners flanking it albeit with the mod that increases gun lethality and range but increases reload time. A more passive role that's worked is putting them on the flanks and tilting them to ward off marauders. Cavalry hanging off on the sides then swoops in if something threatens to hit them.

I'll try and replace the hellstorm and mortars. How many cannons? 3-4 or more? Artillery emplacement behind or behind and to the side of the battle line?
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True Hero of Ulthuan fucking WHEN ???
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>>172749490
i takes a lot of time to make another gud army, especially when some vets die, i just hope to cut on time-wasting
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>>172731629
Skinks are huge psychopaths
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okay so in dei it takes forever to kill some hoplites
am I playing wrong or is this as intented?
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>>172748751
Fuck you
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>>172749787

From what I remembered playing dei years ago, intended
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>>172749664
You'll get Tyrion and like it.
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>>172749959
>Implying
You're getting Teclis and that's it and you better be happy about it.
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>>172731629
Lizardmen aren't smart in the human sense of the word, they have instinctual impulses so know how to ambush and use weapons or ride other reptiles but that's about it. Basically they are no smarter than the old ones needed them to be which is why Skaven shit on them most of the time.
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>>172749552
I usually use terrain to help them get better shots but stay protected.

Even in the worse case scenario where they have to fire through troops, friendly fire seems pretty low in this game.

That said my front line usually gets swamed a bit so there's usually flanks they can shoot at.

Arty always goes behind. They're usually shooting at large units anyway so firing into melee is never an issue.
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When will they return to their historical roots?
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It is done

May god preserve us all

http://puu.
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>>172747279
Elves, his campaing is far better than beastmemes and they roster is more diverse.
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>>172749787
It's intentional. Combat is supposed to be slow. The Battle of Hastings, 10,000 v 7,000, literally took an entire day with the majority of casualties occuring during the final rout, once the shield wall was broken.

If you don't like the autism you can find a faster battles sub-mod to speed things up a bit by making every unit more killy.
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>>172744832
save-scumming is how you get good at the game.

When I start a campaign with a new race I usually try and fight a single very difficult battle and save-scum until I win and then I got the hang of how to play the race in the first 10 turns or so.

Save-scumming is also the best way to play with tactics and figure out what's best.
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>>172750220

A weapon to surpass metal gear
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>>172747279
Beastmen, but only because I have it and not welf
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>>172750220
b a s e d

as always. ty anon.
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>>172750220
nani!
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>>172750220

>World war 1 total war
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>>172745749
I once had empire send 4 stacks into Norsca (Karl included, I think), but that was after Chaos got defeated. They razed one town and then sat around it for god knows how many turns until their armies died from attrition.
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>>172750195
soon
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>>172750220
My god.
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>>172750607
I'd like that.
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>>172750753
It a funnay april first joek)
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>TWW2 release
>playing as best elves
>send a scouting force to Lustria and see Teclis with 5 units of spearmen
>decide to wipe this prick out
>bring him to battle
>the map is a small plain surrounded by swathes of jungle
>deployment phase starts and decide to put my army just ahead of the jungle
>click start battle
>since I have artillery the elves start marching to me
>start shooting them apart
>suddenly advisor warns me hidden units have been discovered
>think wat and then I hear massive stomps and loud roars
>a pack of wild carnosaurs rush out of the jungle to my flank and begin ripping my units apart
>then the elves reach me
>pincered between dinos and elves my army is demolished
>my lord just barely escapes
>return to Naggarond using ark paths
>unfortunately my lords worth meter has gotten too low so Malekith executes him
>such is life as a best elf
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>>172742649


>the catholic church poisoned the noble pagans with alcohol
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>>172750824
oops haha jokes on me
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>>172746121

Speaking of which, was that gangster looking dark elf commander in the new trailer Malekith?
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>>172750837
>>playing as best elves
>>send a scouting force to Lustria
E soy no compute.
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>>172750195
Implying those units are not fantasy
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>>172751006
yes
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>>172747251

it's easy to miss at first glance but that sword is fucking huge
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>>172751136
F A G G O T
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>>172751006
Who else?
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>>172751110
the point ---> ·
(you)
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>>172748751
it's 2017 already lad
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>>172751176

bitch is old as balls. enjoy you're hag
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>>172751006

I can't take him seriously because those horns just make me think of latex satan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fIJhRlnp28
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>>172750837

>best elves
>keklis
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>>172751216
Some people may have trouble detecting sarcasm in writing, but it's impossible to detect if you act exactly like what you're making fun of. And he did get the point, he just didn't get that you were joking.
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>>172751006
I hate elves, but that design makes me want to gather an army of Druchii and conquer the world.
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>>172751309
Will do, because I'M GOING TO BE DOMINATED BY A BEST ELF!
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>>172751309
>doesn't want a yandere mommy who loves you so much she kills your wife just so she could be the only one to fuck you
FAAAAAAG
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>>172751006
is that his septic tank sexual exploration suit?
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>>172731420
>HoI
should i bother with 4 or go for the older ones?
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>>172750195

how were those supposed to work anyway?
>throw severed head like 200 yards
>???
>lotta dead enemies
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>>172751495
HOI4 is absolute garbage. Play Darkest Hour or 3.
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>>172735904
>history for autists
Ok fagola elf king
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>>172751309
>a woman's age matters as long as she's legal and attractive
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>>172730698
Dark Elves do also make use of horses and pegasi. They're just rarer as a whole.
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>>172751346
>taking any elf seriously
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>>172751006
I wish the expression was more neutral. Every time I look at that shit I just think of pic related.
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>>172751589
>hag
>attractive
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>tfw I will get to kill 3 varieties of knife-ears
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>>172751589
>I've never had sex: the post

morathi is like THE roastie of the setting.
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I've been thinking how total war: warhammer is a bit faster and micro heavy (not complaining but I don't play total war to be pro mlg).
Warhammer is great to watch replays in but doesnt give the best feeling of being a crafty tactician, making formations/interesting troop movements.

Are there any games that really focus on the tactical factor and remove speed (without being turn based) as an element of challenge? Something with a mechanic like delayed action after commands, so that you're commited to your choices and can watch them play out.
I think that's something from tabletop that isn't reperesented, you'd have time to make your movements, then you can watch how it unfolds/enjoy the story element with the dice rolls.

Does /twg/ have any opinions on ultimate general: gettyberg or civil war?
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>>172751720


that is literally his whole personality though
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>>172751831
>roastie
/sp/ics and edgy underageb& please leave.
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>>172735078
I wouldn't do that. 1d4chan can be a more fun read, but its take on the tabletop culture is grossly out of date, and it doesn't have all the factions and lore. It'd be better to struggle through a wiki.
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>>172747651
In Warhammer you not only can make meme-tier armies effective thanks to Lord skills, you can make them very good.

Which means that if you're making an All-Cav/Mostly Cav army it should be made of elites and bundled under a single Lord specced for that purpose.

Replace Empire Knights with Knights of the Blazing Sun if you have access to them
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>>172751720

I like to imagine he has different masks for different events.

>angery mask when out fighting
>neutral mask when in Naggaroth
>big cum mask when morathi is giving him the succ
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>>172751746
Morathi is literally so hot skeletons pop boners when they see her.
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>>172750220
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12652151/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/12652151/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/12652151/r

guise vote YES if you want to fuck pol over!

i'm out, peace!
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>>172732238
>doesn't even read all the the news release
can't trust the MSM :^)
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>>172752052
They really didn't think that rule through given that half the factions in the game wouldn't be remotely affected.
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>>172750032
Read the steam page before commenting.
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>>172742984
That would be nice because in that case there will be mod which brings back all of those factions after few days.
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>>172751861
Dominions plays somewhat like that, where you have to plan everything out beforehand and then watch the battle unfold when the next turn comes around, but the game's tactics rely mainly on its magic system for tactical depth and troops don't have that much they can do tactically.
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>>172752194

she'd give a treeman wood - says so right there
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>>172752104
/pol/ here, I approve this message
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>>172752104
Holy shit s this real?

Please let it happen.
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>/mlpol/
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Magic is fucking awesome at the moment, the only problem is maps.

Like in older TW games, loads of things sucked in field battles but were awesome in sieges & settlement battles.

The problem is that in TWW there are no settlement maps so the majority of fights are siege battles.

Add this map pack https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883467263 and magic becomes awesome.

The only shitty part was that the AI didn't really know how to use it's artillery on the map.

If they add proper settlements in the second game it'd be a cool situation where buffing & direct damage is decent in field battles & vortex spells are best for sieges & settlement battles.
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>>172750220
mein gott
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>>172752104
>>172752297
>>172752312
>>172752445

sweet degenerate jesus, has mook gone to far?
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>>172751925
she fucked numerous humanoids and non humanoids including some chaos ogres and probably her pegasus
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>>172752595
it's an autistic shitshow, it's glorious. At least the shills are drowned in the chaos
>>
>>172752104

could this be a final solution to the /pol/ question?
>>
>>172752668
Hot, purityfags can fuck off too.
>>
>>172752683
>>172752678
>>172752595
>>172752445
>>172752312
>>172752297
not only board that is mixed

there's /mlpol/ /litfit/ , /can/ /cock/ (wew) and /mo/
>>
>>172752104
>/pol/ + /mlp/

What's the big deal? It's not like anything would actually change, we're already staring at the same board.
>>
>>172732604
You pay roughly 200 dollars in able to have enough shit to play the game.
>>
>>172752826
pol is already so buttblasted they botted 1000 votes in 5 minutes, not quite subtle.
So we try to get other boards to join
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>>172752817
yeah but most of these merges either function or are fucking glorious

/mlpol/ is 50% porn spam by ponyfags, 25%/pol/fags screeching 25% usual /pol/ 100% autism
>>
>>172752595
Look at your calender April 2nd in best country
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>>172750220

that is about the amount of shelling a standard WW1 trench would receive before an assault, not instantly ofc but over the course of 15 minutes or so
>>
>>172750220

War is hell
>>
Should I just get the base game? Or are any of the DLC really mandatory?
>>
>>172753352
None of it's really mandatory, but King and the Warlord is good for a different gameplay experience and gives you the best legendary lord in the game, the rightful ruler of Karak-Eight Peaks, Skarsnik.
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>>172753352
i got only the base game, i'm suffering.
someone be santa to me and get me dlc races
>>
>>172751861
gettybergs was alright, the map got boring fast though. civil war looks interesting but if the mechanics are the same I doubt it'd be that great.

I had more fun playing empire with darth at ultra unit size. but the AI is horrible which ruins what would otherwise be an amazing experience.
>>
>>172752104
>How to actually make me feel bad for bronies
>>
So, what's with that announcement update from yestarday that doesn't want to start downloading for some reason?
>>
>>172753352
Base game is enough to get you started. Then once you work your way through all the content you can decide whether you want the rest of the stuff. Unfortunately the lord packs are all bundled. For example if Ghorst and all the vampire stuff was a separate pack from Volkmar with FCM and Blazing Knights, I wouldn't have bought that even though vamps are my favorite.

I recommend the Wood Elves. Really good campaign, lords, and unit roster.
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>>172751346
Why do I have a feeling that it's Melonpan?
>>
>>172753352

All I have is Chaos + gore dlc, waiting on a proper sale for the rest.
>>
>Mazdamundi is the strongest Slann mage-priest alive
>no other race has any mage, including Teclic, that can beat the weakest of Slann

How the fuck are they going to balance Mazdamundi?

Slann are literally demi-gods
>>
>>172753812
This is a stupid question, but does getting new DLC or a patch that changes things up require me abandoning a current game?

I still have a Vampire Counts campaign I left when tree-Hitler was still a thing, for instance.
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>>172753910
Because this is the first video in the suggestions?
>>
>>172753352
At this point I wouldn't bother getting anything, there may be some deal with the next title.
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>>172753956

magic is shit
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>>172753956
Awakening a slaan requires you to accumulate a certain amount of the old one points by doing things that condone to their great plan while doing non-old oney things reduces the points. Once you reach a certain amount you can awaken a Slaan for 15 turns, but only several times per campaign, with long cooldown afterwards as Slaan goes back to sleep.
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>>172754038
At least get the Free DLC.
>>
>>172753998
You'll have to start a new game.
>>
>>172732808

Lizardmen are from eggs? why bellybutton?
>>
>>172753615
we get better end of the bargain because pol is not SFW.
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>>172754245
They aren't from eggs, they're from spawning pools.

Though I admit, I have no idea where Slann come from. I don't think one's been created for millennia.
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>>172754245

because artists only study human anatomy. maybe dogs and horses if they're feeling really conscientious
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>>172754152
if they're possible to be that powerful I guess a green knight mechanic would make perfect sense, but it still looks like they're adding mazda as a starting LL.
all wizards are underpowered as shit though in vanilla anyway, probably wont change. or he could have a different lore of magic with massive cooldowns and/or power cost.
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>>172754245
they dont come from eggs pal, genetic soup pools
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>>172750220
>WW1
>>
New bread

>>172754012
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>>172730645
after halo wars 2 being ruined you're damn right
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>>172754353

doesn't sound like an umbilical cord is involved there either tbqh with you
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>>172751583
>HOI4 is absolute garbage
actually?
>>
>>172754332
>>172754245
from what i read in my army book Slann summon Lizardmen from the stars and they come fully grown of their super sacred pool
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>>172754508
I think that's AoS, son.
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>>172753591
Yeah gettysberg looks a bit limited.

I've been playing empire lately, the pace feels right and allows for slower movement and watching things play out but the fucktarded AI kind of sucks the fun out.

I was hoping warhammers tactical view would be either more detailed or more simplified like pic related, hard to do with the dynamic unit shapes i suppose. As it stands the tac view doesn't cover a lot of the field, the units from above arent easily discernable and the icons dont give much of a representation of where they are and how theyre spread.

Something 'bout them rectangles just feels right with showing troop movement.
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>>172754036
That explains everything.
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>>172732808

Why navel?
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>>172732808

The used the abdomen of giant?
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>>172754631
I wish TW had a tactical map more like ultimate general, I don't think anyone uses it in any TW game as it stands since it was implemented.

and iirc it was the guy behind darth that devs the ultimate general games, he had a better thing going for large scale gunpowder battles than CA ever did. you can tell some of that from darthmod for empire.
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>>172736369

Very bad

>>172736446

same tought
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>>172751861
the older TW games maybe? like Med2/1 or Rome 1
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>>172754714
They wanted to include some naval features in the games because people were complaining, and now you've got it.
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>>172752104
guys it's April 1st in some countries. think about it.
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>>172738051

Christ

I completely forgot about the Ancient Egyptians in R1.

I think my mind blocked out this rape
>>
>>172751861

An ancestor of the philosopher!
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>>172746254
You keep telling that to yourself Malekith. Just like she doesn't tuck in your peepee every night.
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>>172746249
Empire isn't really hard. Gobbo's are a bit hard because expansion isn't really easy against the dorfs without orcs.
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