/twg/ - Total War General

hello

I want this dude to voice as Skaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4IFKMcI9EM

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>mfw patiently waiting to genocide Skaven

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>>172691361
reminds me of this

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First for power of Humankind

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>>172691498

HAVE THEY FIXED THE SLANN NAVEL YET?

I WON'T BE ABLE TO SLEEP LIKE THIS REEEEEEEEEE

>>172691520
Malekith was right.

>>172691593
i love this image

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Duel's between generals when? I just want to post this webm

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They said they are adding naval combat but it's auto-resolve only.

How can they make auto-resolve naval combat interesting? I'm not whining, genuinely asking. Any ideas?

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>>172691613
>stick some shit in it
>pretend it's piercing hole

give them longer fingers if you have got to touch the 3d models

>>172691714
that's a nice webm.

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How do you feel that Total Warhammer has been doing so far, in terms of accurately replicating the setting and the wargame?

Personally, my biggest concern is that it's too stagnant - there's little to no excuse for you to fight factions not on your immediate borders, or for them to attack you. You aren't getting the large variety of enemies one would hope for.

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>>172691840
You're a nice anon

Ok, I love siege in all the other TW games, but Warham siege is totally trash. Why is this game so siege-centric late game???

>>172691813
How does it have to be interesting? Medieval 2 had auto-resolve naval combat, even if this was for its own reasons. I never really focused much on having a naval force, but it only took a little effort to get something meaningful, and the game was never boring because of it.

>>172691813
They can't.

>>172691871
Just play as Empire. You're surrounded by all races all the time.

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HISTORY
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>>172691613
>THEY ACTUALLY INTRODUCED NAVEL COMBAT

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>Announce Warhammer 2
>Still no news about Old Friend

What did CA mean by this?

>>172691498
you won't be able to until a month after the release of the 2nd game

bravo ca

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>>172691714
>>172691840
>>172691950
All I want is fancy sword fight animations

>>172691871
>You will never fuck your mom after a long day of warfare

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>>172692139
If you play best race you can do it on launch day.

>>172692235
what's that from?

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Who is ready for Rats!

>>172692003
>>172692006

I mean is there any way to introduce some kind of naval mini-game without actually having to make maps and naval units like you do for land battles?

Might be cool as some sort of screen that pops up and you position you're naval ships on a drawn sea map and then auto-resolve it.

THE FURRIES ARE COMING SOON, I'M SO SCARED

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Fantasy and History living in harmony.

>>172691871
holy fucking KEK, Malekith is a fucking NEET LOL

>>172692247
>implying they have sex
>implying he isnt just NEET lvl 9000

>>172691871
Is-is there a way to download pdf of Warhammer army books?

One thing that I miss from previous Total Wars in Warhammer:

The ability to trade territory back and forth. I can vaguely understand why that is, but it's still frustrating that if my ally is having trouble, I can't just take a few settlements and give them to them.

>>172692475
>Furrfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK92NYwBMts

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>>172692465
You mean like Battleship?

>>172691871
The wargame understandably has a much bigger emphasis on customization and some funky rules which don't really translate well into total war games, but as far as the setting goes it's great. It only makes me want a really detailed RPG set in the warhammer world since you only really see the military side of it in total war games.
As far as fighting other factions goes, it's a consequence of how the objectives for each faction works at the moment, and I wouldn't be too surprised to see missions that try to encourage you to do more exploring in the new game, like going to Estalia as the Lizardmen and burning down a few of their cities because they took some of your artifacts, or something. HElves are world police so they'll likely get tasked with beating back chaos back in the old world as well as whatever comes out of the portal, if anything. DElves need raiding to sustain themselves and raiding random fucks in the old world will probably be safer than trying to raid Ulthuan. Skaven are pretty much everywhere and everyone hates them, so I doubt they will be able to sit back that much.

>>172692580
yes

have you tried looking in the related general in the related board about those kinds of traditional games?

>>172692659

Yea, why not? Could be cool and adds some depth to naval auto-resolve only.

>>172692465
It might be cool to loosely take the Man O' War rules and have turn-based battles, if you don't want to just straight autoresolve.

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>>172691871
>literally lives with his mother for thousands of years

>>172692465
I doubt they are goint to introduce anything more than a rock-paper-scissor system of ships and at best resolution bonus depending on the presence of winds/currents in your favor or the facing of the fleet you're engaging

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RIP the boat...

>>172692876
His mom's hawt tho.

>>172692465
>>172692974
Even auto-resolve could get somewhat involved if units on the ships are counted. Could be all kinds of phases like boarding or casting spells and such, which are still auto-resolved.

>>172692071
Cancelled :(

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KHAZUK

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>>172692139

What did you mean by this

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According to steam "coming soon"
Warhammer 2 might comes out on september 1
It's probably not true, but who knows

Been away from /twg/ a few months lads but I came back once I Saw the trailer.

Is AE and 1212 for Attila still a thing? What happened to that stuff?

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>>172692071
>Old Friend is a TW:W2 tie-in flc
>it's muh boi

>>172692465
At this point since they're not adding real naval battles for Game 2, I just want them to add a naval DLC after pretty much everything else is done.

Which we probably still won't get, but a man can dream.

I've never understood the people who disliked naval combat. Autoresolve is shitty.

>>172693407
>no tomb keks
>nagash

nah

>>172693424

They already have navy ship files there.

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>>172692547
>implying

>>172693351
Real total wars are dead. Leave now. Warhammer controls these lands.

>>172693637

a mothercon hagfucker neet. dude probably posts on /jp/

>>172693506
Tomb Kings are gonna be a pre-order bonus. Naggy boi will replace vampire counts with his new faction- assembly of the necrodancers.

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>tfw elves genocide

>>172693424

I can see how people can dislike Naval Combat in Rome 2 and Attila, that was boring. But Empire did it much better.

Anyway, if they can add some kind of strategical minigame to naval battles right before you auto-resolve, I'd be happy.

>>172693424
>>172693551
http://imgur.com/a/fjAjA

>>172693424
I found it clunky in Empire, especially for large battles.

>>172693696
Don't be a shitposter, anon.

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>>172692876
His mom lives in a different city:
>Morathi lives in Ghrond
>Malekith lives in Naggrond

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CA mentioned more conquerable territory than ever before. Could this mean the Empire being able to take Dwarven holds? That would be cool.

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>>172692586
what game could you do this in?

>>172693407
Are those Necrons?

>download a map-pack that makes all settlement battles take place in towns
>magic is now amazing because most of the fighting happens in slightly cramped streets

>>172692586

Also, ceding territory to someone in order to repel them from further invading you could be a cool option too. For example, as a VC player I give Franz The Moot for free, to make him stop attacking me.

If he breaks our agreement, he incurs a massive diplomatic penalty.

>>172692475
>>172692637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXCUenE0b5A

>>172694043
You could offer to trade territory in Medieval 2 and in Empire, if nothing else. The AI was usually reluctant to sell, but if you had good relations and money it was feasible. They'd love you if you gave them land.

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>>172693993
In a scenery the Empire once were, there was a modest tranquility, and there was a small hope.

And when the Empire was trampled upon
An Emperor rose against it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6LFOIofRE

Which is the best Battle Wizard?

So the new campaign will be about the vortex and either fixing it, fucking it up, or using it for your own gain right?

Elves, Skaven, Lizards, I can see why they'd care about it, but what DLC races that they could put in would give a shit about it?

ALSO: WHATS OLD FRIEND? https://strawpoll.com/5xw4g9y

>>172694483
>Life>Light>Shadow>Fire>rest

>>172693216
CA won't do the combination thing until a bit after release, mostly because it's not vital for the expansion/squeal for itself so they're doing it so the game is out earlier.

>>172693195
If I was born a dwarf, I'd definately grow a beard and effect an outrageous scottish accent.

Got to enjoy the little things in life.

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>total war warhammer steam reviews are mixed

So is this game secretly shit? I thought it was good?

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>>172693832
Seen those before. All they show is at one point they considered adding them, probably early in development. Probably with the same autoresolve system.

>>172693854
Empire was great. Napoleon improved it a bit, but you really had to think how you fought in it.

>>172693821
The thing is though CA has to work with what they're given. Rome 2's naval combat could have been a bit better, but really it was pretty accurate for the time period barring the glaring lack of corvus.

Warhammer naval combat is nothing like historical naval battles though. You have fliers, magic, sea monsters, and dwarves even have goddamn submarines. It would be as much of an improvement on sea battles as WH was to land ones.

I mean, I really just want to watch a Dark Elf sea monster rip apart a High Elf ship. This would be nothing like Roman galley combat, and the fact so many people can't see that is just distressing for me.

>>172694750
The game is good, most negative reviews are for the jewey dlc.

>>172694750
most of the bad reviews come from launch when the peoples raged at the warrior of chaos being a dlc

>>172694750
Butt-hurt Chinese people who don't have a translation, butt-hurt historical fans, and people who have a more legit dispute with the faction DLC stuff.

>Every new race will have 2 unique starting positions to allow co-op
>Empire and Chaos still stuck with 1 starting position
Boris pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUFAqa3gzl4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUFAqa3gzl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUFAqa3gzl4

this should be in the next OP

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>>172693804
>Saurus Warriors

My body is ready.

>>172691498
You mean patiently waiting for Skaven to murder your bitch ass while Skarsnik lives on?

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I cant way for you /vg/ guys to get your first taste of this fucker.

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>finally get to play as muh nigga Malekith
>go and genocide those cunt elves
>HEROIC VICTORY
>Malekith gets the "Likes High Elves" and "Farmer" traits
>mfw

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>>172694750
>listening to steam reviews
>ever

Serious question.

If you were lost and alone in the wastes of Chaos, your only hope being pledging yourself to a God of Chaos, which would you serve?

>>172694592
If the DLC race is tomb kangs, it depends on what their legendary lords are.
If one of them is Arkhan, he could have an excuse to try and use the vortex to ressurect Nagash, or something.
As for Settra, who will definitely be one of the LL's, it's hard to say why he would be interested unless it would just be to stop Arkhan or he figures he can conquer the world by controlling the vortex for whatever reason.

>>172695068
>EGX
>Shills their videos on 4chan

Are you okay

>>172695206
Sigmar, I guess.

>>172693637
>rumoured
nah, hes clearly a pathetic NEET. she probably teases him all the time because he can't get a GF, shes obviously banging Slaanesh.

>>172695153
yfw someone actually get "Likes Skaven" trait

>>172695107
If there's a unit I expect to be missing from the game it's that thing
Could be saved for a DLC

>>172691361
So have the people who bitched about the way Damsels/Spellsingers ride horses go berserk over the Dark Elves yet?

I need some more things to laugh at since most of the misinformed retardation died down.

>>172695206

Khorne's the safest bet. Just murder people and if he mutates you, it's purely to do that better.

Nurgle is also pretty safe, if you don't mind becoming a fly and rot infested terminator.

Slaanesh is dangerous as fuck. It might turn you into a glorious golden god-like figure, or it might turn your tongue into a masturbating snake.

Worshipping Tzeentch is like rolling dice. There's no way to know what his plans for you are.

So basically, probably kill myself and hope that Morr takes my soul.

>>172695206
Tzeentch i suppose

>no combat capabilities so khorne wont take me
>Nurgle will wreak incredible physical pain upon you and leave you a rotting carcass that may or may not be animate
>tzeentch basically wont give a fuck about you, likely send you to your death as part of of his plan but you cant be sure of that
>slaanesh will do horrible, horrible things to you mentally, emotionally and physically until you crave it, and once you crave it, it just wont be enough until the numbness is agony all of its own

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>>172695107
>tfw all budget went into the lizardmemes and the other races get shared animations and cut units

>>172693948
>altar of ultimate darkness
>spiteful peaks
>sea of malice
>tower of doom
why are dark elves such edgelords?

>>172695206
Khorne is the safest best due to how straightforward he is. Likes you killing people in his name, and will likely make you able to survive so that you can keep killing people.

Nurgle would probably be hit or miss, on one hand he loves his followers. On the other hand he considers despair and joy to be the same thing, so he might make you suffer because he thinks it will make you happy.

Slaanesh is well, Slaanesh.

As for Tzeentch, no clue. On one hand if he has a plan for you, you're at least guaranteed to survive for quite some time. On the other hand, he has a plan for you, which means you're probably going to be fucked over really hard some time in the future. At best you can hope that he wants you to be the one doing the fucking the majority of the time.

>>172695206
Can't decide between
> Khorne
Be an agressive alpha 'likes to fight guy'
or
>Slaanesh
Pure lewdness

>>172695367
Theres no way, the HPA is the literal embodiment of skaven. There is no skaven army without one.

It would be an absolute nightmare to animate though

>>172695206
Malal

>>172695497

Nurgle isn't bad.

I mean, as you are, his gifts are fucking nightmarish. For those infected with them, they aren't bad at all. The maggots and flies make for good company, and your nerves being completely rotted away means that you can ignore the physical and focus on the emotional warmth he and his followers offer.

Still nightmarish though, and only a hair better than Slaanesh and Tzeentch's blind dartboard of mutations and gifts.

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>>172695206
>implying Sigmars faithful are ever lost

>>172695749
Apparently the Hydra took them literally months to make, so I can see the Hellpit Abomination to be an absolute bitch.

But I still doubt that they will exclude it, just because a big appeal to the games are the monsters.

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>>172695107
>not this motherfucker

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>>172695206
Khorne all the way bby.

Straightforward and to the point, go spill blood, don't use magic.

I'm pretty sure I can do that.

>>172695862
>That fucking face
Every time

>>172695862
I'm honestly curious on whether or not CA will have the balls to include the Stormfiends. On one hand they are an End Times unit and will likely not be included, on the other hand they are actually pretty damn cool and could make for an interesting unit to play around with.

I'm leaning towards not included though.

>>172695821
What, you think your nerves rot away at the snap of nurgles fingers? Compeletely painless?

Hes a chaos god, hes going to melt you from the inside out and youll either survive or you wont.

>>172695862
Its a pretty mediocre unit desu senpai. Doesnt even have 13 wounds

>>172695862
Aren’t those things end of time units?

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Lizardmen better have some sweet battle OSTs

https://youtu.be/Bo-qweh7nbQ?t=3

>>172694362
oh ok.

>Nurgle will never love you

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Should I cuck Boris?

>>172695869
>>172695667
>>172695669

>People giving up on magic

Have fun punching people while I warp reality with a thought, I guess.

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>>172695839

>>172696038
>no hug from best papa

why live ?

>>172693832
those images are unit portraits for the Man o War Game.

>>172696073
>implying all servants of tzeentch gain magic just by worshipping him

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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CA

GIVE US FORMATIONS

>>172694592
Estalian/Tilean Conquistadors and the Vampire Pirates seem like obvious DLC tie ins.

So will they include Verminlords for Skaven, do you think?

Would they be heroes, lords, or units?

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>>172696073
YOU'RE MAGICAL

THAT MUST MEAN YOU HAVE MAGICAL GUTS

>>172696243
Actually bretonnia got one, i could see this happening for helves, since they are literaly militia men with centuries of training.

I mean it would be cool too see them raise shields like that and protect from every side or deflect arrows

>>172696009

Because here's the thing. Nurgle loves life. He loves you, he loves your family and he wants nothing more than for you to be happy.

However, he loves all life equally. Including bacteria. And those bacteria need you to live. So he throws those bacteria at you, because it's selfish in his eyes for you to want to live at the cost of those bacteria's death. But he'll bless you if you call out to him, so that both you and the bacteria can live. It'll even stop hurting after a bit.

Nurgle is the Chaos God of Despair, but also the endurance needed to overcome despair. As such, he gives his followers perhaps the greatest hell of any Chaos God, but gives them such strength of character and will that it doesn't seem bad to them.

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>>172696140
As long as you promise to use it irresponsibly

So is there actually any info when the expansion is released?
Or just "2017"?

>>172696140

Not all, but it's one of his most common gifts.

Magic is Chaos, and Chaos is raw potential.

>>172696528
Maybe
>>172693347

>>172696268
Verminlords would be lords, but they probably would have a restriction on them in some way or another since otherwise you wouldn't have much incentive to use the other skaven lords (unless there was some skill tree differences that made it worth it, although I still think most people would go for the greater daemon equivalent almost always over other things)

How does Nagash rank against a Slann?

>>172695206
Khorne requires you to be a bloodthirsty killing machine. It requires you to be a somewhat decent warrior to start getting his favour, so sure as hell he's out of question

Tzeentch is too much of a wild card and I really don't think I'd be of use for his MASTERPLANS. Probably won't receive any benefit from him either

Papa Nurgle is interesting, it's not hard to gain his attention and love even more if you are a scared ass weakling. Too bad that after puking nonstop for two days I felt like wanting to die, can't imagine how it is to live under's daddy's constant miasma of illness and pain

This leaves SLAANESH. Let's fugg baby

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>star dragons in a game where cannons dont obliterate them

Somebody hold me

>>172694750
I love the game but would give it a poor review based solely on the jew dlc. The game is incomplete without it, thank god its so easy to pirate.

>>172695210
After Kholek I dont think Nagash being in is that crazy.

>>172696710

Probably a bit lower in general magic than the early spawning Slann, but basically without peer in terms of mastering Dhar, which Slann can't use.

>>172696394

Almost every race should have formations. It doesn't need to be as deep as Attila or Rome 2. Just a few would be more than fine.

Wedge formation for cavalry. Shield Wall for infantry. Sparse/Dense toggle for every single unit. A box formation to shield siege or important units like spellcasters. Not much else.

Kind of shocking how a game about armies clashing doesn't have arguably the most important military aspect.

>>172696710
Stronger than all of them except probably Mazdamundi and Kroak
You could probably say goodbye to everything within a 10 mile radius of their encounter, that's for sure

>>172696710
Nagash is the most powferul magic user (un)alive

only the most powerful of slann would match or surpass him. Only one im aware of that would for sure beat him is lord kroak whos dead, but sorta not really.

>>172696896
>only 10 miles

>>172696752

Reminder that the Dragon Emperor of Cathay is the father of Star Dragons.

>>172695658
Actually the altar is Chaos location, it's a place where the Everchosen can get Mark of the Chosen One

>>172696972
where does Morathi rank on the power list? shes the most powerful "sorceress" in the world.

>>172696852
Kholek isn't even that crazy, he's just a really big dude with a hammer and some lightning powers
Nagash can wave a hand and instantly wipe out greater daemons of chaos, he's on another level of power compared with characters purely strong physically

>>172695624
Why would they even make new elf-animations though?

It's not like being a dark elf makes you use a spear different to a wood elf, it's a fucking spear.

Wardancers & Witch elves are pretty similar too.

I'm surprised you think they wont share skaven & lizardman animations though.

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>>172697319
>they will never add Zacharias or Aborash

>>172697145

Tier 1: Godlike

Nagash, Kroak,

Tier 2: SUPREME

Mazdamundi, Teclis

Tier 3:

Balthasar Gelt (Incarnate), Gregor Martak (Ulric), Archaon Empowered

Tier 4:

Morathi, Egrimm Van Horstmann, Mannfred, Archaon, Arkhan etc etc

>>172697008
Do you have a source?

>>172697319
Nagash after snorting ten thousand kilos of Warpstone and reclaiming all his lost original body parts/artifacts and getting his pyramid back online is the over-the-top one.

Nagash in the same state as when he fought mortal Sigmar is pretty manageable.

>>172697145
It depends where in the timeline youre looking at, probably near the top of the high tier but shes absolutely not comprable to the big boys like teclis

>>172697505

Didn't Nagash instantly melt Zacharias for giving him lip? From a few thousand miles away?

>>172697526
>Morathi
>not supreme

>>172697660
Zacharias told him he wouldn't serve because he thought he was stronger so Nagash set his brain on fire to prove he wasn't.

Thanquol slowly raised his head, staring up at the gathering shadow. The smell of blood and havoc was even more pronounced now, threatening to choke the breath from his lungs.
>You have called and I have answered. You sought the Harbinger of Doom. I am he, little sorcerer. I am your Doom.
>I am Skarbrand.
>I am your death.

Thanquol’s body quivered as though gripped by a seizure, pain shot through his bowels as his empty glands continued trying to spray the musk of fear. With an effort of supreme will, he forced his eyes away from the shadowy manifestation spilling out through the door his magic had opened. He felt something wet dripping down his claws. Disgusted, Thanquol threw the cursed artefact away. It landed on the floor, palm upwards, the Skull Rune glowing balefully from its setting of corroded flesh.
The Skull Rune! Emblem of the Blood God of Chaos, Khorne, Lord of War and Slaughter! Well had the vengeful Thratsnik set his trap! The wrathful Khorne was a god of warriors and murderers, the patron of sword and claw. For all sorcerers, all who would ply the craft of spell and hex, the Skull Lord was their bane. Khorne had nothing but loathing and scorn for magicians and wizards – only an insane fool would use magic to draw the Blood God’s attention.
Thanquol wasn’t particularly happy to think of himself as an insane fool. Yet as he watched the Hand of Thratsnik dissolve into a puddle of crimson muck, he understood how completely he had been taken in. By his own actions he’d opened the gateway into the Blood God’s realm and drawn the attention of one of his great daemons. Given enough time, Thanquol was certain he would figure out exactly how everything was everyone else’s fault, but just now, he had more pressing concerns.

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>>172697526
>>172697657
women btfo

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I made this screenshot but I couldn't think of a funny name to go with it.

>>172697567
At one point there was a Monkey Emperor, so I don't think he has one. It's probably less a literal dragon and more 'guy getting named after the year of his coronation.'

Or maybe both - maybe it's an Orion-like thing, where whoever becomes Emperor takes on a mystical shape based on the year.

>>172697672

Because she's not.

She's an extremely powerful sorceress, but she's not inherently meant for magic like the Slann, or empowered by a Wind, or as brilliant as Teclis.

Nagash is an exception to all the rules, since he's A: Brilliant on the level of Teclis, and B: continually empowers himself by eating magical things, like warpstone, divine blood and gods.

>>172697625
If Nagash was to be in TWW I assume it would be the super empowered over the top one, where he appears as an endgame boss

>>172691361
Is that the actual cover art? Because if so that's awesome.

>>172697526
What feats does Gregor have and is he mentioned in any pre- End Times things? I'd hate for him to be excluded just because he showed up during WHFB's shittiest time.

>>172697910
"come on guys it was just 1 village"

>>172697852

For instance, there was the nasty matter of a giant shadow that was becoming less shadowy with each passing breath. He could see shoulders now, and great black wings. Horns and claws, and terrible pounding hooves.

>You have called, and I have come.
The voice of Skarbrand thundered through Thanquol’s mind. Raw terror pulsed through his body. He glanced at Queek, then back at the horrifying manifestation. There was really only one thing to do.

He’d feel a lot better putting a big thick dwarf wall between himself and Skarbrand.

>A coward dies a thousand deaths. All of them slow and very painful.

Thanquol clapped his paws against his ears, trying to block out the daemon’s growl. Maybe he’d keep going once he was through the gate. If one wall between himself and the daemon was good, then two would be better. Actually, it might be nice to have seven or eight. In fact, Thanquol was feeling a decidedly un-skavenlike desire to be out in the open sky and well away from tunnels and dwarfhalls.

>Run, fleshling! You cannot hide!
he daemon. Thanquol could feel Skarbrand’s malignance growing, swelling, expanding. He could smell the stench of the bloodthirster’s wrath, hear the fires of its hate. The grey seer felt very small beside that infinite wellspring of atrocity and carnage. His heart banged against his ribs, threatening to burst from sheer terror. The pain of his clenching glands made him want to scream.
But he would not scream. Not now. Not when the daemon was so near. Not when Skarbrand was so close and so hungry.

>No, you shall not escape me so easily. You will burn, mage-rat, and then you will scream. And scream. And scream.

Thanquol’s will faltered. Slowly, he lifted his horned head, gazing up towards the roof of the dwarfhold. Staring into the face of Skarbrand.

>powerlevels

So who wins in a fight, a blood knight or a grail knight?

>>172697910
>COUNTAH KEKED

>>172698096

He's the next Supreme Patriarch, which puts him on roughly Gelt's level. And he's empowered by the remaining spark of divinity of Ulfric.

Unfortunately, his only real fight is against Archaon, and you can imagine how that went down.

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>mfw historyfags got shut the fuck down today

Today was a great day, anons.

It's really sad to see this once great franchise to abandon it's history oriented roots to cater to the fantasy loving autistic manchildren.

Not only you ruined this general, you also managed to ruin the entire franchise.

Fuck SEGA and fuck you.

>>172698127
Dragon Prince of Caledor

>>172698229
Same thing happened to poor grimgor

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SATISFY THE GRUDGE

KAZUKAN KAZUKIT HA

>playing Empire campaign
>it's the chaos snow niggers rush time
>fucking northern electorates still at war with each at other so they get run over and land gets so fucking corrupted it's damn ass to move
>to top it off fucking Moongobbos had hold out in the most middle of the mountains so it's damn fucking hard to wipe them out for shitty hammer quest
Should I just start playing dorfs?

>>172698127

Abhorash > Grail Knight > Blood Knight

And when I say Abhorash > Grail Knight, I mean all Grail Knights. At the same time.

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>tfw WH:WH2 will just be a combined DLC pack with no rework of the grand campaign

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Kroq-gar BETTER be the 2nd LL for Lizardmen. There's no better pure General for the faction.

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>>172698283
Get the fuck out of my dojo, kemosabe.

We Warhammer now. Go fuck off to your trash tier subreddit.

>>172698389
They have to change things in the old world to make everything in the megacampaign work, so that seems unlikely

>>172698021
Nagash will be in the game
Powered-up Nagash will utterly annihilate any pretense of balance
But Nagash will be in the game
Therefore Nagash will be powered down

>>172698324

Grimgor did better, as their fight was mainly physical. I mean, he broke the Eye. Whereas Martak got swatted aside.

>>172693804
GONNA STAB

>>172698381
>grail knight over blood knight

Sure grail knights get a ward and rejuvination but blood knights are fucking vampires, Not just vampires but really fucking skilled ones at that. Grail knights are still human at the end of the day and warhammer vamps are busted

>>172698490
I mean the gameplay on the political map will still be the same shit; new factions/areas doesn't change this at all.

>>172698442
Obviously, anon. Hes the most well known lizardman thats not a slann and hes a big melee fighting guy to contrast the magic slann

>>172698558

Grail Knight lore has Blood Knights literally melting at the presence of strong Grail Knights.

Vs mortals, Blood Knights are more dangerous. But the divine nature of Grail Knights gives them an inherent edge against vampires.

Ancient Empires fucking when? I've been listetning to the History of Rome and I need to make Rome great but fuck me do I hate Rome II.

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>instead of multi-tiered majestic Slann cities and Dark Elf fortresses of doom, we are going to get a wall and some space behind it again for siege maps

>>172695862
It sucks that this unit was added with End Times not 8th, as the fact that it was an ET unit means people have an irrational hate of the poor thing. Otherwise, can you tell me why the Skaven wouldn't put giant ass ratling guns on a beefy Rat Ogre, or how that is at all against their character? One of their Warmachines is an Electric hamster wheel for fucks sake.

>>172697952
She dueled Teclis during the Battle of Finuval Plains. They were evenly matched.

Wiki (I know, I know) states that she
>is also one of the most powerful magic-users in the world of Warhammer, rivaling perhaps even Nagash, the Lords of Change, and Teclis of Ulthuan.

And yeah, Lords of Change are also up there.

>>172698906
Just get Europa Barbarorum if you want to go full autism over your making rome great

>>172697910
>when one of your fellow flagellants tells you that you're a beastman, not a human

>>172699029
You'd still just put all your units at the entrance and fight a win/lose battle there, regardless of the design.

>>172699246

confirmed for never playing Attila

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>first minute
>middle frontline already breaks
>SIGMAR PRESERVE US
>SIGMAR PRESERVE US
>SIGMAR PRESERVE US
>SIGMAR PRESERVE US
>SIGMAR PRESERVE US

Maybe I should go with Battle priest instead of captain for better morale.

So how do you deal with losing quickly morale as empire? inb flaggelants frontlines. I noticed I have better results with smaller armies than mega huge ones.

>>172699029
>tfw modders release gigantic maps that fix all these problems

This game is really improved by making the maps absurdly hueg

>>172699303
Fine, as any race with units other than horse archers.

If there's genuinely something interesting about sieges in attila other than that, do tell.

>>172699029
I just realized how much of a nightmare a siege battle vs lizardmen will be. Some of the best infantry in the game manning the walls making their slow speed irrelevant. Skirmishers and towers to make sitting back impossible. Flying units to prevent you from just flying over the walls. Powerful magic to spare.

Yeah, in the hands of the AI they will still find a way to fuck it up, but I don't think it would be possible in a balanced match up vs a human player.

>>172699338

That's because with huge armies, the AI will inevitably beat you in micro, unless you pause the game.

Also, flagellants. Seriously, they absolutely blunt enemy charges, allowing better units to wade in after them. Assign a unit of flagellants in front of every Greatsword, and watch the effectiveness fly.

If a faction leader dies in combat before being confed, can I still get them if I wait to confederate them? Or are they gone forever?

For example, Stirlands leader is still Haupt-Anderson, but his army is gone after a battle with the von Carsteins.

>>172699418

not my fault you don't realize that utilizing archers and barricades correctly can create an interesting scenario where you can funnel the enemy into traps and directions you want them to go in

Moreover, port cities themselves in Attila had multi-tiered defenses. The beach, the walls beside the beach, and 1st level where the peasant houses were, then the 2nd level where the noble castle was, where you could set up more defenses.

instead of just: attack walls -> go down -> capture main point

>>172699571

CHOSEN

>>172699571
I would say they could get around it if they had actual cities like the Aztec cities in Medieval 2 where it was a nightmare of corridors but with the one wall settlement in Warhammer it'll probably be pretty annoying

Also weird that they have walls

>>172699736
Faction leaders respawn if you don't confederate them whilst they are dead

I'd like to give some prudent advice to a lot of you who I think are like me here.
If you're one of those faggots who doesn't go past turn 50 and you keep restarting to "do better". Just keep going. You'll learn way more important shit than, "Oh I shouldn't have force marched that turn." You'll see what you need and where first of all so you don't try and cram everything into Altdorf. And you'll be able to play with your army comps. Like I have an army with every artillery, I have an army of basic bitches to see how far they can get. I have way too many empire captains... or not enough because none of them provide the experience boost yet. Farms are for retards, unless it's a cattle ranch.

Anyway. Just keep going. It doesn't matter how good you're doing up until chaos invades for reals if you don't know what to do when chaos invades for reals.
Also, don't confederate Boris. Just kill the fucker.

>>172691871
Magic is shit.

>>172700394
>t.Khorne

>>172700362

>Don't confederate Karl Franz+

Crush the Weak is broken.

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>>172691813
If it's auto resolve only then it is no different than whats already in the game. Kind of cool though when playing the different factions you get the different boat models.

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>tell friend that the next expansion is guaranteed to be High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen, and Skaven at launch of TW:W
>he vehemently disagrees and thinks there is absolutely no way Skaven would be in over Tomb Kings
>continually shits on Skaven and talks about how great it will be to get Tomb Kings next expansion
>he thinks Skaven will be a DLC race for sales
>really dislike the potential of this because it would mean the "no dlc for dlc" rule would apply to Skaven, reducing the likelihood of additional clans/LLs/starting positions.
>fast forward to today
>mfw the announcement trailer

FUCK YOU TOMB KINGS SHILLING FAGGOTS. THEY ARE GOING TO BE A DLC RACE. ENJOY HAVING NOTHING BUT 2 LEGENDARY LORDS WHILE I GET EVERY SKAVEN CLAN UNDER THE GOD DAMN SUN.

HAVEN'T FELT THIS VINDICATED IN YEARS.

>tfw we'll finally have the legendary Mel Gibson vs Benedict Cumberbatch battle

>>172691593
>Franz! Your Hammer is the Hammer that will BUST THROUGH THE WARP!

>>172700936
There's only two really memorable Kangz lords anyway.

>>172700936
Watch. We'll get Settra, Arkhan, and Khalida. Three. But that's all we need.

>>172698283
>abandon
arent they making a history game along side the fantasy one?

>>172701353
Beastmen have three.
Warriors of Chaos have three.

>>172701472

ABANDON

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1-3 Crusader kings 2
4-6 Attila
7-9 Warhammer
0 Masturbate to lizardmen and reroll

>>172698283
Heh funny how people love to enjoy constant rehashed games like rome3 or shogun4 :)

>>172701472
Yes, but idiots think developers release trailers for games when they just starting creating assets for the game.

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Stunties ain't muckin' about dis time.

Does anyone need the rat killing gif?
I need it for my anti-skaven collection.

tbqh I don't think they're going to have the two games merge into a grand campaign until the Tomb Kings DLC comes out 3 months after TWW is released

So if TWW is released in, say, september 2017 that means that the super grand campaign will happen in december 2017 when kangz are released

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>172702114
The combined map is bound to get the Bretonnia treatment. Look forward to playing it in 2018.

>>172702197

how could a dead elf dominate anyone???

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G O B L I N S

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>>172702005
I would love to have it alongside this pic of Nagash killing those rat bastards.

>>172700394
Magic has literally won battles for me, even some of the 'lesser' lores like Heavens. What are you on?

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>>172701554
ERE, White Huns or Tanukhids? I've pretty much done every other major faction.

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Malekith did nothing wrong

>>172669305
>>172676093
Isn't that a Skaven assassin right next to the High Elf?

>>172702457

If you can get past the shitty part of the Tanukhid campaign where you are trying to do the missions before you settle it's pretty fun.

>>172702489
those horns are archaon level of huge

imagine his neck muscles

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>>172691613
NO ONE IS REPLYING TO THE FORUM THREAD

WHY AREN'T YOU SUPPORTING THIS

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>Play an Empire Campaign
>Help a Wood Elf faction with gifts, because they've got a cute female lord
>look back after fifty or so turns
>they've swallowed all of Athel Loren and most of Bretoniia
>They've killed off Durthu,Orion and Estalia and are marching into Tilea like it's the Lebensbraum of pre-Bret patch
>continually spamming me to upgrade our defensive alliance into a military one
>literally every turn
>the male lord'd army is some shit-tier garrison while the female lord I supported them for is a full stack of trees and waywatchers and currently burning Tilea to a crisp

I've made a terrible mistake.

Fucking fantasyfags should go back to /tg/

>>172702879
>elf
>cute

>>172703019
Now now, when history gets a good game you can talk about it

>>172702879

>LIKE A FUCKING ELK

I missed this meme.

>>172702002
u about to git fucked boi

>>172703170
Or he could have posted something history related to start a discussion instead of bitching about other people enjoying a TW game.

>>172703442
Thats sort of the point I was making

>Here is my Attila campaign!
>Im winning, because the AI is dumbfuck retarded and charges my 10stack of pikes head on

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Reminder that fantasyfags are literal reddits

>>172702114
>super grand campaign
Is having a week beta test before being released

Chances are you wont see TB this year

>>172703592
/twg/ has been a subreddit since Rome II launched desu.

>>172703592
>going onto shittid
>posting shittid here
>being a shittid
Fuck off newfag.

>>172698283
>history oriented
>Roman ninjas and head hurlers in Rome tw

I like both history and fantasy but, damn son, quit whining about it.

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Why not burn it all down?

>>172703838
But he does

I thought he was just a faggot until I read his lore. Pretty chill dude.

Is old /twg/ culture dead? Where the fuck is pontus and Antiochus screencaps?

>>172702879
Anon, you have two options:either betray them and burn down their wretched forest in the name of glorious humanity, or agree to the military alliance and watch the wood elves expand to take all of the dwarven, orc, and norscan provinces, at which point you're doomed and poor Franzy boy should be getting ready to be dragged into the oak of ages and femdommed.

Am I right to think that taking melee defence is best on kholek?

Feels like damage, charge, and attack, are all overkill when his base numbers are so high.

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>2017
>No date
Fuck.

>>172704312
You should get all his combat stats

>>172704264
Did you just come out of a fucking time capsule from 2013?

>>172704127
His bosses are faggots, that's the problem.

>>172704264
>why are we not using the same old boring memes of years ago

>>172704264
All of that is dead. The fantasy has won. Discussions of history and armor and empires has been crushed under "WE BIG BOYZ" "G O B L I N S" and "GREENSKINZ"

It's time to leave and find a new series lad. The total war you knew is never coming back now that they saw all the money available in the fantasy.

>>172704674
Unironically yes.

>>172704312
Also his army should be mostly Shaggoths.

>>172704775

well you skipped some shitty years. welcome to the horrible present.

>>172704414
>You will never be happy like those skinks.

>>172704414

>playing dinosaurs riding even bigger dinosaurs

What a time to be alive

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>>172703592
Reminder that you were browsing reddit, took the time to screencap the post in question, and still thought we would give a flying fuck about your opinion.

The irony is palpable.

>>172704823
At leasi i want to know if Antiochus 'died of terminal autism after the realease of a fantasy total war.

>>172704743
They literally announced that they have started on early asset creation for the next history title. Try to have some fucking patience. We'll talk about a history TW when we have something to talk about other than it will exist some time in the near future.

>>172704862
>actually going to get a game where every major Warhammer race is available
I want the whole thing and I want it now

>>172704969
So by that you mean they're sending a few unpaid interns off to make a city builder mobile game.

>>172705131
>Historical Team – Unannounced Total War Title
Our next major historical release is now in full production with the game design locked and asset creation fully underway. The game retains the same strong focus on character design that infused previous major releases, with the key personalities of the period in particular being an early priority for us now; as such there are some vibrant and striking renders plastered around the studio, with eye-catching combat animations garnering some serious attention too.

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/192834/what-the-teams-are-working-on-17-03-2017

And yes, this has been posted on here plenty of times before.

>>172705131
>Have two teams so you can satisfy two markets
>Still bitch that you're getting as much attention as the other market
Grow the fuck up. The fact is if they released a new history game in the next year or two it would just be the exact same fucking engine as Attila with a different skin and a different era, is that really all you want?

CA are obviously planning on the next historical TW game to break away from the totally stagnated history they've done before, are you really so petty you want a shit game now rather than a great game later?

>>172703838
In the middle of a Chaos campaign now. Really getting sick of these Norse fucking shits. Their armies seem to manage to stay just out of reach, so I'm playing whack-a-barbarian burning their villages and having them rebuild them behind me. They keep wiping out my vassals, and if I say fuck it to go kill the Empire, they jump me during a siege with 4 armies. They don't win, because they're a bunch of inbred barbarians and I have Chosen, but they'll weaken me enough that I can't take the upgraded garrison + army that seems to inhabit most places so I have to retreat.

I really love the Warriors of Chaos roster, but I can see why people hate the campaign. Getting the ball rolling feels like a struggle.

>>172704969
Fucking this. This is what I don't understand about all the complaints. If we had new shit to talk about on the History front we would.

We can only have the "what time period do you want the next historical game to be in?" discussion so many times. After awhile we are just regurgitating the same answers over and over again.

Is it fun to sometimes talk about the Roman Empire, ancient armors, or various forms of siege weaponry? Of course, but we have an entire board for that now, called /his/.

The popularity of Warhammer Fantasy and the creation of a /his/ board together was what led to the history-purists extinction from /twg/.

>>172705445
>We can only have the "what time period do you want the next historical game to be in?" discussion so many times

early modern please

>There making another Warhammer

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

>>172702724
He's probably mad because his parents baptised him or something.

>>172705569

i can't believe they're doing that thing they said they were gonna do

>>172705424
Get the Warlords of Chaos mod. It's in beta but it improves on the pacing of the campaign massively .

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>>172705569

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>>172705542
>guns

No thanks.

>>172695862

they released units knowing full well they'd squat the setting right after?

jesus no wonder so many players were fucking ripped

>>172705667

>We won't make back to back games

That thing? BECAUSE THERE DOING IT! And it's because of you faggots and your fantasy fairy bullshit.

>>172705842

you're only scratching the surface

gw are... special

>>172705905
How stupid are hisfags holy shit

>>172705905
How can they release a trailer for a game they haven't made yet anon? Look pass your anger and think about this realistically. Most of the base work for an addition to Warhammer 1 was already done. The new historical title has to start from scratch unless it's just going to be nothing, but reskins once again. An expansion/standalone title was always going to have a significantly shorter development time than a brand new game. This should not be a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention to this general or any other TW forum at all.

>>172700936
As one of the KANGZfags, I was fully expecting Skaven to get in before them, as they're far more important to the setting.

I like to think most of us are used to being a background faction, but we're all just eager for our day in the sun. I'm personally hoping TK are the preorder bonus.

>>172706042

Go suck a goblin dick.

>>172705980
My favorite GW business practice is their insistence on supporting GW-brand brick-and-mortar stores rather than selling their products through third-parties.

>>172692580
There's some nice stuff in here anon.
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!JVw20QKC

>>172705905
>I would rather an Attila reskin over a new engine and new history game
You're a fucking moron.

t. historyfag

>>172706131

I understand it's like Attila, but I'm sick of waiting for Medieval 3.

>>172705980
I'm pretty sure the logic was that they'd release a new line of models so everyone would buy them then scrap it all so they'd have to buy new models since the ones they bought were no longer usable

On a side note about GW retardation I'd like to mention they used to have a story in the St. Louis Mills, which was a mall so retarded and destined for failure that only companies as dumb as GW put stores in it

Daily reminder if you are a hisfag and you are waiting for any setting except India you should neck yourself

>>172706458

shu..shut UP!

>>172706364
Honestly GW is pretty incredible, in its own way. It's the only hobby company I know of that has such open and unconcealed contempt for its own customers.

Mind you, if I were GW I'd be pretty contemptuous of all the customers I still had after the shit I pulled.

>>172705737
Looks pretty good actually, thanks for the suggestion. I may try to finish out this campaign since I'm pretty committed, but going to keep track of the mod if I finish or abandon this run.

>set across the vast continents of Lustria, Ulthuan, Naggaroth and the Southlands
>the Southlands

what did CA mean by this ?

Tomb kings preorder dlc confirmed

>>172705905
Fucking neck yourself you shrimp-dick faggot.

Go REEEE somewhere else where people actually give a fuck about your shit opinion.

>>172706749
>Tomb kings preorder dlc confirmed
I would be very surprised if CA pulled a fourth faction out their ass that wasn't just a reskinned human faction.

More so after the Chaos fiasco

>>172706679

customers, employees, partners, suppliers, retailers,

list goes on and on

>>172706749
I fell like Tomb Kings are going to be the actual 4th faction, and that's why they won't say Skaven. I feel like Skaven will be the Archaon event of the game, and the pre-order bonus.

>>172705905
We've have like 8 history titles in a row. Half or more of them have been utter shit. And Warhammer is actually going to influence history by adding in features that never would have existed before, shit thats actually fun and interesting like unique leaders with powerful traits.

I am all for CA instead taking their time and making something new and interesting rather than shitting out another generic reskin history game.

>>172706872
But they can't include the southlands on the map without araby to link it to the badlands

>>172706984
Well that could work too but the assblast would be monumental, they won't risk it

>>172706870
>Go REEEE somewhere else

I'm here

>>172706945
If I were GW I'd have nothing but contempt for a world foolish enough to allow me to remain in business.

>>172706984
Grace confirmed on Reddit that Skaven are the 4th core race, and don't require a pre-order to unlock, they are part of the base game.

TKfags confirmed for beyond delusional.

>>172706984
As a kangzfag, there's no way Skaven aren't the fourth race. There's a rat in the trailer, there's skaven symbols scratched into the title, and let's fucking face it Skaven are far more important to the overall feel and timeline of the setting than the tomb kings are.

>>172707115
Can I get a source on this?

>>172705737
that mod actually looks like it could fix the chaos campaign

thanks anon

>>172706749
Tomb Kings require way too much detail/effort to be a pre-order bonus.

Think of all their living statues/constructs. People would be pissed as fuck if they pulled another Warriors of Chaos and reduced a lot of the TK roster just to get them out as a pre-order bonus at launch.

Also, are we forgetting this is CA we are talking about? They are still a business. They are going to want to release 1-2 races as DLC for TW:W2 and make a nice little profit from them.

Tomb Kings are almost guaranteed to be a DLC race.

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HISTORICFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>172707071
>>172707115
>>172707176
I didn't mean it as in I was hoping that Tomb Kings would be the fourth faction, I was just worried that they might be. They know that they would make a lot more money if Skaven were DLC instead of Tomb Kings.

>"This is the first TW game where the AI can beat you to the end game objective."


Now that's just not true, the AI could win by victory conditions in Med 2 and Shogun II at least

You'd even get a warning message

>>172707381
I'm a historicfag and I'm looking forward to Warhammer 2. It's a fun series and its enjoyable to get into a new setting.

And as said before the more time they give the history team to develop their game, the better itll be on release.

>>172707528
If you look forward to it then it means you are not the buttblasted type of historicfag

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Look at all those salty Hisfags downboating the trailer on Noobtube.

>>172707614
There are historicfags here who aren't autistic and play both.

I didn't know a damn thing about warhammer other than GW is possibly one of then most Jewish companies in existence.

>>172697910
The guy in the back over the Beastman's shoulder looks like he has a plan for where he's going to put that mace.

>>172707368
>1-2 races as DLC
I still doubt that. If they're coming out with a third game they are incredibly limited in terms of factions left.
What is there after lizard/elf/delf/rat?
Ogre Kingdom, Chaos Dwarves, Tomb Kings, and Chaos Daemons. That's four right there, I don't see them adding a new races as DLC, just expansions to existing factions.

>>172707528
Me too honestly, I don't understand the butthurt. Being an hardcore history fag doesn't prevent you from enjoying fantasy. And I wasn't into warhammer before TWW.

>>172702798
>>Belly Buttons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5uujMb_hbo

>>172706330
The next historical game is going to be a new time period altogether and, according to some speculation, rocking a new and/or improved engine.

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Release is months away
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>172707184
I was afraid you would ask, alright gimme a minute to go back through that clusterfuck of a subreddit.

Okay, found it.

Initial Poster says
>Skaven behind pay wall/skummy preorder DLC?

She replies
>All four races are in the game regardless of pre-order.

This exchange was after she already made numerous replies to various people asking about the Skaven, almost all of them she replied with a coy maybe to.

SOURCE: https://www.reddit.com/user/Grace_CA

The steam page says "Meanwhile a fourth, secretive race stirs, their motives obscured by sinister plots and machinations. The time for revelation is nigh…"

The trailer ended with a rat... come on now mate.

Let's be realistic, the 4th race is Skaven.

>>172702798

>Skink Priest got sick and fucking tired of waiting for the shitty frog to wake up and run society like he's supposed to so he started slapping frog's belly until he woke up

>>172707868
We knew this was going to be the case. The earliest we could possibly see a release is fall or end of summer. At the earliest.

Most likely it'll be winter 2017.

>>172707915
The fourth race will clearly be ogres. Quit being in denial Skavenfag

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>when anons are arguing over historyfags and fantasyfags more than they're actually discussing the games themselves
>mfw I like both and don't understand all the shit being flung and just wanna talk about vidya

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>get excited for new factions
>remember the arcade battle system means ill have like 2 minutes of fancy new units fighting each other before its over

The make or break for this addition will be a combat speed overhaul.

>>172707998

just on guy feeling i'm gonna go with august

>>172707915
>All four races are in the game regardless of pre-order

Call me jaded but that doesn't exactly mean that they're playable. Just that all of them will be in the game.

Chaos was in the game on launch but not playable without preorder.