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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 1st:
286 – Emperor Diocletian elevates his general Maximian to co-emperor with the rank of Augustus and gives him control over the Western regions of the Roman Empire.
1572 – In the Eighty Years' War, the Watergeuzen capture Brielle from the Seventeen Provinces, gaining the first foothold on land for what would become the Dutch Republic.
1867 – Singapore becomes a British crown colony.
1924 – Adolf Hitler is sentenced to five years imprisonment for his participation in the "Beer Hall Putsch" but spends only nine months in jail.

>News
CK2 Monks and Mystics is out. Check the 4chan archive.

EU4 - 21/03
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-21st-march-2017-diplomatic-macro-builder.1006623

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>172588642
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>172695359
BASED
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>>172695415
>mods still didn't ban the guy who spams threads
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>>172695495
To be fair the UK has an enormous population
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>>172695129
No.
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Proper infopic with updated info.
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>>172694996
Why not just put someone with interventionism in power?
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>>172695785
>ban evading after spamming the board
>still trying to force your OP here
You already made a thread before the right time, why spam your pic everywhere?
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>>172695829
>If I piss off Germany
That's good
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>>172695341
>>172695909
Is it an epic new meme to botch the CK2 music mod link and use an outdated infopic?

Use this thread or don't. If you don't then don't complain later about the sorry state of this "community".
>>172695383
>>172695383
>>172695383
>>172695383
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>>172695829
>>172695829
>It gets worse.
I don't see a problem
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>>172695998
The only person contributing to the "sorry state of this community" is you, you keep ban evading, creating threads earlier and spamming them and spamming your pic to try and force it.
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>>172695998
>Is it an epic new meme to botch the CK2 music mod link
What?
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Is it really necessary to be in the hermetic order for some its inventions? It's kind of lame that I own plate armor but since I'm not in the order my character just goes 'nope. don't know how this works.'
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>>172696248
Wait you need to be part of the fucking hermetic society to use plate armor? Seriously?
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>>172696153
>>172696212
>I-It's ok to perpetuate an autist with full control of the OP who is slowly smothering this thread out of any talent that is not aytch-pee-emm (who has been fucking dead for months and will never come back) because of may-mays xDxD
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>>172696330

Yeah, I'm just getting the hilarious image of the king of Jerusalem somehow getting his dick stuck in it because apparently only the Hermetics have the instruction manual.
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>>172696526
That's fucking retarded, who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>172696526
>I'm just getting the hilarious image of the king of Jerusalem somehow getting his dick stuck in it because apparently only the Hermetics have the instruction manual.
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>>172696580
Johan
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>>172696654
I refuse to believe he thought that you should be part of a scholar society to wear plate armor
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>>172696509
>I don't like who made the OP so I will try to control the OP by shitting on the board, spamming threads and pics, he's totally the bad guy and you should use my thread because I want to control the OP
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>>172696938
>>172696759
Nice blog but how do I unsubscribe?
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>stop posting in /gsg/ for a couple of months, the longest time I've been away from the general in the last 3 years
>come back
>it's actually looking more civilized now, even though it has been going downhill ever since I started lurking back in 2014
W-was I the problem?
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>>172697108
No, people reporting and ignoring shitposting, not using meme pics in the OP and an increase moderation fixed it
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>>172697108
Yes.
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>>172696526
>>172696248
>you can fuck your own daughter, be copernicus and shit, build towers and find Cthulhu but how do I use this slightly different armor? Fuck I need a society full of scholars to find out
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is the Africamod good? is it compatible with HPM?
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>>172697359
No
It's built in it, so yes
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>>172695341
>>172695129
Bethothe your daughter matrilineally to a king's son, then assassinate all of the other heirs, and he WILL fulfill the Betrothal making his children your dynasty. Just did this to the elected king of burgundy
>>172691835
>tfw one of your surnames means axebearer or executioner
>tfw your other surname means stoney ford, ie a natural river crossing
>>172690521
>fucked over by William the conqueoror
>tfw my First English forefather was Williams vassal on that day
>tfw he was part of the cavalry and thus a decisive reason for victory
Suck it german swines
>>172688475
>rebels spawn
>commanders die so find new one
>this one is a bastard so his own family
>he's an amazing general
>give him the county the rebel owned
>20 years later he rebels for council power
Why we were friends
And then my brother killed the last of his house to unite the duchy of Hwicce, whilst the last woman of that house is now my wife who I'm going to kill
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>>172697398
>No
why?
>It's built in it, so yes
what do you mean? do I just install it and move it to HPM's folder?
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>>172696902
>I don't like the guy contributing to the thread by fixing links and updating the infopic (which is the first thing anyone sees) so I'm going to side with a mindless autist who is the main reason this thread is in life support now.

Enjoy your butchered archive and your lack of updates because there's absolutely no one to replace our "official" vicky tinker fag.

>>172697108
There's no longer a daily steamgruppe raid, the rot now comes from within.
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>>172697557
>why?
Events are amateurish, nonsensical and usually just boerwank

>what do you mean
if I remember correctly, it comes with HPM already packed. If it doesn't, it's totally for HPM
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>>172697503
>hilst the last woman of that house is now my wife who I'm going to kill
Do it
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>>172697637
>I don't like the guy contributing to the thread by fixing links
What did you fix?
>so I'm going to side with a mindless autist
But I'm using this thread, not the one made by the mindless autist that has been spamming our thread for a week now
>Enjoy your butchered archive
Wow, you fucked the archive, I'm sure going to support you now
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>Look at the archive
>ModWithNoName 2.0a
wat?
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>>172698121
She deserves it for being so taxing to have a third lover, to give no children, and for trying to kill the child of my brother who was actually mine, who I'm marrying to my legitimised bastard to prevent the 'unlanded sons' malus
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>>172698416
I'm baffled that in CK2 you don't get a free execute on your wife if she cheats on you, I mean that shit was high treason
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>>172698416
Also my brother was castrated whilst spying on the umayyads so he should have known it was not his and his wife had cheated on him
>tfw your strong attractive mistress dies of rabbis
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>>172698584
I'm baffled they haven't fixed 'tyrannical'coding yet, if the council agrees to revoke a title, but that person rebels, and then I revoke a title of theirs whilst in prison, they can vote differently rather than autopassing
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I'm beginning to think one of my duchies is cursed. Every time I assign a new noble to it, he dies within 3 years.
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>>172698149
>What did you fix?
Don't play dumb
>But I'm using this thread, not the one made by the mindless autist that has been spamming our thread for a week now
Considering the other thread was made first, what makes you think that's spam and this is not.
>Wow, you fucked the archive, I'm sure going to support you now
That was archivebro's work, he listened to pro-HPM shitposters making a witch hunt against innocent modders and got reported by said shitposters to fuel drama and let it become a pogrom. And I'd like to thank you for continuing to enable said situation by siding with shitposters.
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>>172698769
I think Kent is cursed, because whoever owns that land is always the first to form a faction
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>>172698204
dont download it its a virus
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>>172698880
Yep, you are one of the shitposter who reported the archive and you are the autist that have been spamming the board and the thread the last week
Wish mods just banned you but at least they've been consistently deleting your shit
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There's something strangely gratifying about handing out titles right after a Crusade.

I have this image of the king just poking his head out of the castle and yelling at a peasant: "Hey you! Wanna be [checks titles] Duke of Alexandria?"
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>try new fatherland mod update
>still total pain in the ass to play
>quit
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>>172699095
"Hey you! Wanna be [notices Vore tag] Master of the Hunt?"
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>>172699095
>duchies
>not giving all the land back home to your heir so you can focus on being a CRUSADER king
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>>172699275
"Hey you! [notices bulge] OWO, whats this?"
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>>172699064
Messaging Johan as we speak, your archive will be down by the end of the week.
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fuck you liang

furry scum
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>>172699735
It's Owo, ffucking cub, bet you don't even know who Tay and Dexter are
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>>172699980
Actually I have a better plan

I'll start to share that archive on paradox forums, reddit, piracy sites etc. I will share it on every GSG related site. Once it gets more popular you can bet your ass Johan will take it down.

Just remember, you brought this upon yourself.
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>After the End keeps crashing on roughly the same date
Fuck
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>>172697740
>Events are amateurish, nonsensical and usually just boerwank
that sounds boring, so it just focuses on the boer states? I thought it was something cool like, for example, be Japan and invade Africa and changing the name of some lands or something like that
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>>172697108
yeehaw
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>>172695341
Oy vey
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>>172700502

this is a christian community. watch the language.
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What should I do now?

GB, Denmark, Poland, and Lithuania are all in PUs under me. I don't know if I'll have enough time to integrate all of them before the game ends.
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>>172702901
>0 stability
lmao fucking noob fucking kill yourself shitter
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The shoah continues
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>>172703212
>playing before 1066

wow it's almost like you want to have fun. kys
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>>172703284
>he doesn't play HIP's new 1043 start
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>>172703676
link?
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WHY WONT IT INSTALL CPRPLUS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172703753
nevermind, got it
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>The fucking Pope almost immediately gets imprisoned by the Jewish Emperor of Francia
>elsewhere, Christianity is under siege on every front

this is the worst timeline
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Someone give me a fun start in hip ck2
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>>172704549
>doesnt have all of india

DROPPED.

If I wanted to play on a faggot-tier map I would play a Total War game
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Is there no CK2 DLC activator anymore?

Also is Sunset Invasion still not worth it?
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>>172705392

It's cool for the game of thrones mod. Can't imagine why youd want those filthy savages in europe
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>>172705479
What if I wanted to try to stop their shit?

Does it affect EUIV at all?
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>>172705709
dunno. I would assume so.
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Vicky2 is boring now.
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>>172705810
HOW DARE YOU
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Is hoi4 playable yet?

>>172702901
Why aren't you removing kebab? WHY ARE YOU CONQUERING YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS INSTEAD OF REMOVING KEBAB?
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>>172704215
>ROMAN Catholic Church
>Christianity
Fuck off this is better timeline.

Also the Church was one of the first attempts at a New World Order. Think about it.
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>>172703864
it says right there, it doesnt recognize your Monks & Mystics Content Pack install
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In Vicky 2, how do I destroy France permanently without going over infamy? I can't "liberate country" because there is literally no one with cores on French land. Cut Down To Size is harsh on the infamy and not permanent enough for the cost.
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>>172706234
>Catholic New World Order
reminds me of pic related
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Pla Lata
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>>172706274
all my DLC's are cracked versions, but they are all working
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Youjo Senki timeline mod WHEN?!

>>172706358
You will have to conquer them. Better yet, get countries surrounding france to join your war and let them add wargoals. Hopefully, they will take some land for themselves and speed up the process.
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>>172706556
thanks
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>>172706926
no, thank you
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>>172705709
Yes. If you have Sunset Invasion active if you convert to EUIV then the Aztecs and Incas are giant super-advanced blobs
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I...what? Does this even happen?

What's going to happen in this game if I accept?
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WE
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>>172711880
fucking WHAT
did you do this?
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Rule the waves
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>>172712212
it is known that /gsg/ has a dude with a cuckold/interracial fetish so i wouldnt be surprised
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>>172713095
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Revenge_(06)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Queen_Elizabeth_(1913)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Arethusa_(1913)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolution_(09)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Capetown_(D88)

HMS Orion is a ahistorical light cruiser.
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>>172713460
I think you mean *an* ahistorical light cruser
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Hey you literal niggers. I'm thinking of starting a new CK2 game. Who and when should I play? Give me something cool/fun.
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>>172713460
Think about this really hard lad. If the AI builds more ships than the UK did during the war, you'll need more names. It's really not that surprising.
Also, this is not linked to classes so names will appear randomly on different classes within the category of the ship.
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>>172714202
Picture related, German carrier names. Not that the German AI EVER actually builds a carrier let alone an escort carrier.
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>>172706076
Excuse me sir, this is a reminder that using "Kebab" and "Remove kebab" when referring to the Ottomans and/or Muslims in general is STRICTLY forbidden.

There has been a recent up-tick in usage of these terms so I am making sure that everyone is very, very aware of Paradox's stance.

Using these terms is considered racism, and so is against the Terms of Service and can result in infractions.
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>>172711512
England will protect you for a while, then later cancel your alliance when it realizes you're a player and it wants your land, and you'll be too weak to fight back because you couldn't expand into England's territory.
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>>172714813

So you're saying I have a large window of opportunity for an Exodus game, with no enemies left to challenge me until England realizes their fuck up.
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>>172715519
Maybe, unless England starts colonizing near you and wants that land too.
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I am beginning to think something is broken here. Here I was, fighting the Jewish Emperor of Francia in a crusade for Aquitaine, when suddenly he dies and is replaced by his son, who is a fucking muslim who was in some Umayyad dungeon for God knows how long. I don't even know what religion I am fighting anymore.
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>>172715659
post religion map
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>>172716217
Its a clusterfuck. Thankfully, the King of Mercia spared us from the religion of peace and Francia is Jewish again.
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>>172698880
No mods beyond HPM should exist for Vicky, now fuck off.
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>>172716610
Ew, make sure to bring the world back into the fold of the Papa
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honestly do you guys think taht in this paracon we will get to see a NEW GOOD GAME /
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>>172717701
We already did. Steel Division will be the greatest GSG since EU3.
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>>172716610
What dynasty?
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Who else is in the 24 hours stream right now?
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I'm playing CK2+ as reformed Celtic and for some reason seemingly at random it won't let my court druid proselytize. Sometimes when I assign a new one it just won't let me click any provinces to send them, and sometimes they can be in the middle of a mission and suddenly stop with no way to send them back.

What's happening?
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>>172716991
HPM itself is based on other mods. Let the Grandi Youth to not even know their own story.
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How is the online community to this game such cancer?

Its always some high school fuck hosting the game with a novel of rules designed to ensure he the host playing Germany has no problems at all winning the game.

France not allowed to do any strategy but build 5 max forts and wait to get fucked. Nobody is allowed to play any nation on europe except for potential german allies. USA can't join the war until 42. Spain can join the war in 41 though if for some reason france was able to hold out.

Its pure cancer.

Not to mention how ahistoric france as a nation already is in the game. They have no industry whatsoever and no army despite having the best army on paper in real life.

Its a cheap gimp they way they designed France as a nation.
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>>172706448
who made this in stellaris? looks cool
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>>172719325
Don't forget Texas having more oil than Venezuela.
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>>172719325
Everyone knows that France is a paper tiger, and that they're all cowards at heart.
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>>172719325
>Implying the whole game isn't just a cheap gimp
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r8 my Europe lads
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Can Germany solo the entire world in HoI4?
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>>172721202
almost any country can
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>>172721173
>England exists.
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>>172721173
Spanish Bulgaria/10
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>>172721202
sure just ban any player who attempts to use strategy against you.
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>>172719325
The game is shit so it requires tons of rules to be playable. That's all there is to it.
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>>172721173
>Great Perm
Nice.
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>>172721173
>1624
>no safaviyya
mayo and tonsils was a mistake
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Charlemagne killed himself after failing to conquer Saxony and now Europe looks like this.
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>>172695359
W&B
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>>172702901
Integrate england, conquer france and portugal. Take the kebab lands so that you get the roman empire, take the lands required to gain the achievement mare nostrum.
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>>172721173
>Great perm
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>>172721173
M&T is shit to be honest. Everytime I see a screenshot from it, I see these kind of boarders. They broke the game completely and I don't know why some of you enjoy the mod. And that's beside the performance issues.
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>>172724724
HRE can't form Roman Empire. He fucked up by actually forming it, HRE tag is shit compared to just being emperor instead.
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>>172725339
Really? I didn't know that. Are you sure?
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>>172725642
The only way to do it is to form the HRE, then form Persia, then form the Roman Empire. You can't go straight from HRE to SPQR.
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>>172726009
Well, you may have saved me there. You see, I too have a HRE save which I will continue and conclude before the new DLC arrives. I was thinking about the mare nostrum achievement, and I would've greyskinned before had you not said something.

But now I see that I can't take that achievement after all, even if I didn't greyskin yet. :/ I don't think I can integrate all those nations that I have vassalized until the game ends, so... I guess it will have to be another, but I don't know which.
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>>172726561
Generally speaking you should never hit the HRE button anyway unless you have to. Forming the HRE weakens you a lot and doesn't have any benefit except earning you the achievement.
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>>172722171


So does HoI3. Darkest Hour is the last playable HoI
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>>172721598
It does, but it's Catholic so I let it. It builds colonies for me and I take them over for trade ports.

>>172721605
I don't have Bulgaria, I do have Greece and Albania though. Couldn't really help that, I got a random PU with Greece when all I originally wanted to do was get my dynasty on them, then inherited.

>>172722204
>>172724750
It's a fun story too, Russia was getting absolutely huge but they lost a major war with Sweden then got heavily occupied by Muslim rebels (although they didn't flip), so Perm turned around from the Siberian wastes and just conquered the majority of what they had left over. Vorotynsk obviously grabbed what was left, along with the last remains of Lithuania.

>>172722260
They spawned, but were put down for some reason. Not sure how.

>>172724929
The borders are honestly pretty good. With the exception of a couple fully isolated nations and some exclaves, only Roman Steppes is really bad. Everything in France is a French vassal, for example.

Here's religion map by the way.
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>>172726646
Yes that I know. But before you said something, I had in my mind that I would have to in order to make all the clay that I took with my vassals my own before I could form SPQR.

What kind of achievements should I aim for then? Any suggestions. Maybe the 1001 province achievement? Not sure how much that would be. Is there 1000 provinces in europe?
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>>172726835
>The borders are honestly pretty good.
Ok, if you really think so.

I don't tho. Too messy with all those small weirdness here and there. Makes everything look ugly. And also, things like Great Perm and Vorotynsk, always some weird nation getting big; utter shit.
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Is Geheimnisnacht updated for Monks & Mystics already?

Did CK2+ get proper (not beta) Monks & Mystics release already?
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>>172721173

>Anjou resisting the Blob

Look at the cock on him.
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>>172727363
Anjou is actually a vassal of the blob, which is in a personal union with me. I don't know why France hasn't annexed it yet, probably out of spite, but it'll be handled as soon as France is integrated.
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>>172723190

That's the most disgusting thing I've seen this week
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>>172726867
What year is it?
You could probably go for the one achievement that requires you to have a 60 development province, should be very easy if you don't have it already.

You could also annex your vassals and get An Early Reich.

Trade Hegemon shouldn't be hard at this point. Total Control is also easy. If the Ottomans, France, and Russia still exist you can guarantee them all for Guarantor of Peace. Bleed Them Dry should be super easy, just DoW the weakest little shits around you for war reps. If you don't have Full House make two of your vassals marches and you'll get it.

I think you could also culture shift and form Prussia if you want other achievements like A Fine Goosestep.
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>>172727653
>>172726867
Oh, and if it's feasible you could also conquer Iberia, culture shift to an Iberian culture to form Spain and get Spain is the Emperor.
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>>172726994
>Too messy with all those small weirdness here and there

not that guy but that's why I enjoy playing M&T and HIP in ck2. The borders are historical. I prefer some weirdness over shit like Hungary in vanilla ck2 which is just a circular blob
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>>172727963
About ck2, have you tried ck2plus?
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>>172727963
Asymmetric boarders may be more historial in some cases, but in other cases it isn't. Rulers at the time did actually conquer areas they could include on their personal map of their nation, and aesthetics did come into their decision making quite a lot because of it. That's the human condition.

Now, beside all that, it is very little historical to end up with weird nations like great perm and brunswich taking scandinavia and so on. The vanilla games have been balanced to fit history as much as possible(they often fail too of course, but to a lesser degree), while these mods are not. The result of playing these mods is less historical maps. You can't deny it.
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>>172728867
>Rulers at the time did actually conquer areas they could include on their personal map of their nation, and aesthetics did come into their decision making quite a lot because of it
Yeeeaah, gonna need a source on that one laddo. Never heard of any ruler saying "well this place would look aesthetic on my personal map" as a reason for conquest.
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>>172728942
>nice looking borders = easy to defend borders
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>>172728867
>The vanilla games have been balanced to fit history as much as possible(they often fail too of course, but to a lesser degree), while these mods are not.
this is bait
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How come Pdox can make great portraits for east africans, yughurs, finns and celts and then utterly fucks up the portraits of germans and english a.k.a. the people most of their playerbase actually wants to play?
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shit lads, vicky 3 confirmed
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>>172728942
Now, I'm not saying that they made their decisions primarily based on that. But the human condition will play its part. Most nations in the world are shaped both strategically and also aesthetically. Just look at the map. Why don't real nations look as messy as they do in Memes and taxes?
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>>172729049
No it isn't. You know it's true.

The human player can of course fuck up the map by conquering america with some kind of native american nation, but the AI won't do that. In most cases the AI won't let Poland be taken over by TO. Russia won't fail to form and let great perm be the power house in that area. And so on. I know I'm right, so I'll let you chew on that fact and maybe you'll come to your senses.
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>>172729491
maybe because it's 2017 and the concept of national borders is completely different back from before states were even a thing, let alone ethnic nationalism?

Pic related is historical.
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>>172729640
Yes but here we aren't looking at one body of a kingdom. HRE is and should be a mess.
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>>172729592
yeah, you're absolutely right, vanilla is 100% historical and all mods are just btfo by based Johan, how will modcucks ever recover
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r8 these GERMANIUMS
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>>172729765
ignoring how you're moving the goalposts, Spain is right there, discontiguous, ugly, and completely unaesthetic. Yet it's there, funny how the real world works huh?
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How can I get the latest M&T version?
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>>172729592
damn, vanilla is so historical, I can't handle it
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>he is a pedophile
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>>172729592
this is so much more realistic than the mods dedicated to historicity
wtf I hate mods now
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>>172729934
Liberate hungary and anex the czechs, nerd
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>>172729592
i think you get the message here, vanilla isn't any more historical than playing Risk at this point. At least Mermaids&Turtles has some "railroading" influences like the way China works, the restriction on Exploration ideas, Unification CBs in France etc., events like the Rise of the Safaviyya, buffs to historically successful nations and nerfs to shitty ones to try and keep things on track
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>>172730127
>France winning the war of spanish succession is somehow completely unrealistic

Leave and never come back
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>>172729935
Spain inherited a mess. They didn't land in europe and drew up a mess and decided all of this is strategically good land, for so to land with their navy and start conquering. I don't want to shift goalposts, the HRE was indeed a mess and I'm agreeing. But it doesn't change the fact that rulers are influenced by asthetics, just like we all are. They're not computers. Boarders did look better in real than in Meme and taxes, even in this period. I bet even the real HRE looked better than the HRE in meme and taxes.

>>172730025
Yeah, vanilla AI didn't do this by itself.

>>172730127
This France isn't so much of a leap of imagination.
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>>172730374
>France won the war of Spanish Succession, and also annex England, and also annexed the Netherlands, also England is now mostly Irish the other half of Ireland is Scotland, also Bar is now the size of the Confederation of the Rhine and Savoy just took all of northern Italy
yeah ok m8
balances of power just don't exist I guess, enjoy your magic mana master monarch mania
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>>172729970
>>172729970
>>172729970
>>172729970
Lads? Anyone?
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>>172730324
No, your images are actually proving my point. I see poland took clay that makes sense for them, albeit they didn't actually take it in real. My point isn't that AI always does what happened in history. My point is that vanulla is balanced so that it looks more historical than meme and taxes.

Look, Poland took some clay. Ok, but in meme and taxes, TO took poland and then took more clay. Makes more sense than vanilla, you say? No. Austria inherited the throne of Spain because they were in a PU. That could've happened in real too. Meme and taxes would have some irish minor take all of spain instead. Makes more sense than vanilla? No. Look, England won the 100 year war. Wow, an alternative to real history, how awful! No, that actually makes more sense than having the meme and taxes' brittany taking all of France instead.
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>>172730863
>I see poland took clay that makes sense for them
yeah you're just baiting now, alright
my bad for getting drawn in
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>>172730902
Poland wanted to conquer lands in hungary/bohemia. They wanted the land along the baltic shore. Wow, this does NOT look more realistic than TO taking all of Poland.
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>>172730532
You want less historical boarders than vanilla so that you can get rid of mana. Ok. Fine. You go ahead and play the mod that makes one in-game month take 5 minutes of your life.
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>>172730813
How the fuck do you think? There's a mod forum, and a steam workshop, take your pick.
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>>172731186
I don't own the game
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>>172729970
Register your game on the Paradox Interactive® Official Forums™ to gain access to the Modding Subfrom for Europa Universalis IV™
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>>172731353
can i do it if my game's pirated?
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>>172731353
Can I do it if my DLC's are pirated?
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>>172731327
Lad, if you don't own the game then how are you going to install the mod? The mod is a modification of the game, you need the game to use it.
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>>172731591
Actually, yes you can. You only need the base game
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>tfw in process of turning from nicest and most tolerant muslim jizya funded empire to twisted shithole that tries to convert or expel every heretic
>this happens
inshallah
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>>172731591
You can but you'll likely get banned and have the game license revoked. It's very easy to detect pirated DLC through the registration system.
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>>172731601
My games pirated, that's what I mean.
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>>172731776
In that case, you're worse than a pedophile. Buy the game and all its DLC as repentance or just kill yourself.
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Lewdmod lad here, I been gone for a while. What's been happening?

>>172713095
Get on my level
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:^)
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How do I get this to work?

I want to marry this qt aztec empress but I can't do any kind of marriage, even between our courtiers. As you can see I can do other kinds of actions, such as buying a favor, but it does nothing.

Cheats are fine too, in fact I already tried marry_anyone and neg_diplo. They're bugged out so it won't give me anything, I just want to marry this qt.
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>>172732128
Did Aztecs get new portraits too? If not, what portrait mod is that?
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Napoleon's Legacy is crashing at creating rivers, can anyone help?
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>>172732279
Maybe. I don't have any mod that replaces any of the default portraits to my knowledge but I don't remember what aztecs used to look like.
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How do I steal treasury items?
Do I literally have to kill their entire family, make them a vassal, and then kill them so that I inherit everything from them?
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>>172733364
I too want to know this.
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Tried all kinds of things to get this to work, turns out I could've made it simple by just using play as and switching between me and her. I expected things to go nuts when I switched to someone with no actual land.

I am very interested to see how fucked this may make things in the future.
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So, what exactly happens when this shit hits the fan? It will be a couple of decades till I can convert my provinces, sadly.
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>>172731994
H O L Y
O
L
Y
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>>172733579
Convert to a better game.
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>>172733818
I'm determined to finish this game, because it has gone well this far. I have the knights, TO, and LO as marches. I'm waiting for an opportunity to take jerusalem from mamluks.
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>>172732331
Also, Pastebin says 3.2 but the download version is 3.1.7

Please.
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>>172733579
You get a bunch of unrest until you have 75% unity or Humanist ideas. Basically it causes religious uprisings since you'll be converting shit.
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>>172734264
But will it end at some point, like after 20 years or something, if I don't get the 75% unity or humanist ideas?
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I wonder what I broke

I added couple of countries and now population in all uncivs rapidly declines
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>>172734459
No. It will literally never end. You have to either convert provinces back to Catholic, switch to Protestant and convert Catholic provinces to Protestant, or get Humanist ideas. However note that once you crush a rebellion rebels from that area won't rise again for a little while so it's not like Vicky 2 Qing tier constant rebel doomstacks.
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>>172734459
>>172734592
It will end after 25 years, they changed it when you could abuse estates and get no disaster from them from already being in one.
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>>172734592
>>172734762
Ok, good to know that my campaign is not ruined.

>>172734762
Would you suggest that I leave humanist idea group alone, or is it worth having?
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>Be craftsman
>Live in a province with no factories
>Complain about unemployment
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>>172695341
Ban is finally over so I can start campaign posting again. Prepare for two days of saved up autism
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>>172735031
Either that or religious. I would probably pick religious though, seeing as you are the pope and all. But humanist is probably better in Europe, less revolts and aggressive expansion fades quicker. Up to you really, both are good.
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>>172735072
>people will move to where there are jobs
But one of the main arguements against thatcher's neoliberal policies were that people will not readily move even if it kills them
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>>172733537
>open console
>yesman

t. cheatpro
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r8 my Europe and Mediterranean
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WE WU.....
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>>172735218
But for my situation will religious help me? I would rather leave both alone, but my situation is what it is.
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>>172735439
inherit the byzzie empire already
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/236850/announcements/detail/562228989139956580

opinions?
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>>172695341
The FUCK happened to /twg/?
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>>172735513
You should go one of them, unless if you want to be at low unity the entire game, Italy is high development so takes a long time to convert.
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>>172735719
/v/ raid
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Released my vassal in Eastern Canada and started playing as them.

If the Irish were the first to colonize Canada, what flag design do you think they'd make?
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>>172735639
What would be the fun in that? Then I'm just Rome again, and it would be unholy since I'm Lombard.
I'm trying to be a speshul snowflake with my Mediterranean Crusader Kingdom with my speshul snowflake culture.
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Truly this man is capable, first by taking the Huudid lands, and then his crusade succeding where the Umayyad one had failed
What's the cooldown on crusades
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So how is March of the Eagles? I like the setting and loved TW Napoleon but it was lacking. Will MotE fulfill my assburger?
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>>172735814

A
FUCKING
SHAMROCK
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I am sorry my cousin, you served the realm well, and I applaud you for spreading the dynasty to the continent once more, but we can have only an allaince with the Austrasians, not their vassals
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>>172735421
Yesman didn't work as it was a invalid action for some reason. Probably for the same reason the aztecs never did anything but appear and sit there at peace. It was valid the other way when I used play to switch to her but I couldn't even see the reasons she'd refuse or accept on my side.

also took her off commanding the troops when I switched.
theoretically my wife now has 100k sitting right next to my capital, but I highly doubt they'll ever do anything at all.
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Several of my burghers came to court reporting that they hyad seen CHRISTIAN raiders, flying the Karling standard. I knew from our shared crusade that this was garbage, but listen they did not, and so forged my seal and sent a message off to King Jacques. However when he responded by saying it was slander, I could not reply myself saying that I was such a weak king that mere burghers could overcome my commands
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>>172735694
I think most sounds ok. But I'm sceptical about the age stuff. I don't want the game to push me towards objectives. I get that you don't really have to take any of the objectives, but then you will feel like you miss out those nice modifiers. So in effect Johan is in a way forcing us toward a certain way of playing the game.
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So...the HOI3 Flavormod in the OP...what the fuck is it? Why the fuck doesn't it come with a readme file?
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>>172735280
The real question is where the hell did this craftsmen come from, there were never any factories there.
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Now with Suffolk under my control, enough of the Angul-Seaxans had finally been united under one banner, and popular acclaim I was crowned King of England, but I promised the people one of my descendants would unite all of the Angul-Seaxan's and that son would be Anweald
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>>172732657
Are you using HIP? Actually, what mods are you using?
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>>172735748
What? where did it go? It's not there anymore.

Not sure what happened. Maybe a humanist idea group bug? I picked the humanist idea group, and I cancelled it too, because I wasn't sure whether to take the religious or humanist. Not sure if the disaster disappeared before or after I did this, or whether it had anything to do with it. But now it's gone... it seems? I also took the counter reformation decision, maybe that did it? What do you think?
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Now that my line was destined for greatness, a tournament was held to help find the best men to lead this unification. My son came third showing himself capable at least to be king, whilst my spymaster through trickery and skulduggery came second. Most surprising of all was how my grandson, his mother my daughter whilst his father was a commoner she fled safety to marry, when she was destined to secure alliances. This did sting my pride, as it showed this supposed king destined to unite the Angul Seaxan people under one banner, could not keep his daugther's legs shut, nor see how great a groom her husband did make.
Whilst the celebrations ran on, I held a quick meeting of the council, with them finally accepting the revocation of somerset.
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>>172736761
The disaster can't fire if you have embraced the counter-reformation. I guess it also ends it, didn't know that.
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>>172737026
Nice. Well it had not fired yet. I still had a few percentages until it would fire.
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>>172737026
>>172737074
But now, do I really need to care about taking religious (I can't take humanist ideas lest I break counter-reformation). My missionaries are strong already, and I have 3 of them.
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playing meme mods lad

it's called 7 Years War or something like that, basically France won the 7 Years War
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Pleasantly warmed by the favour I received at the tournament, I thought the one thing left to secure my rule of the Aengland, was to secure the favour of God. I had already fought to save the Christians of Aquitaine from persecution, but now I thought to present myself as God saw me, a humble man.
Believing the Mohammedans still in shock from our victory I went to the Holy of Holies, also possibly for reasons that my cousins had recently been banished from Lombardy after their titles were revoked.
Crossing the rivers of Jordan I noticed the bridge was of ill-build, and so to make the road safer for those pilgrims who were not kings of this earthly realm, a stone one was built in its place, hoping for more to reach true salvation.
Strangly for October, the banks burst, and had we not built a raft from our scaffolding, I surely would have drowned.
When not far from Bethlehem the Hospitallers approached us, thankfully they borught medicine desperatly needed by my guide, having encountered a snake whilst relieving himself.
On my return home I sent a large donation to the Hospitallers in thanks for saving the lives of many not just my guide's
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>>172737256
>Big Based Bulgaria

You best give a link, boy.
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What is the new meme mod now that HPM is dead
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However when I returned home, I learnt of how the grand master of the Hospitallers was the son of that Pictish king who had so raped our wallets. Doubt also beset me due to the lack of Holies I felt upon my return to Aengland
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Unforutantely doubt further beset me, when my Steward and second son was killed by a rabble of peasants for collecting an extra tithe to help build hospitals in our lands.
Whilst my first son was castrated by the Umayyads following his arrest, which was truly worse for wear as head no children, defaulting the succession to my youngest son who was not 16 winters yet
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>>172737197
If you have the counter-reformation no, but the tech and idea cost penalty are pretty big.
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AI Zoroastrian rebels are absolutely fucking up the Abbasids.

First time I've seen a game where they make a comeback.
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So i'm playing as France, my ruler is old and probably about to die, when he does it will start a succession war between Commonwealth and Muscovy.

Then I get this event, the top option says it gives me a royal marriage with Commonwealth but that confuses me since I already have one with them.

The bottom option gives me "Sough after bachelor" and +1 prestige per year till the end of the game.

Is this some way to avoid me falling under the PU? I've never seen this before.

pls help...
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However Eden was groomed quite well, he listened intently to my stories of bridge building and saving those poor farmers, and became charitable himself, always giving his scraps not to the dogs but to the beggars outside the gates. This may in part have been to do with his studying of the classics with the Court Chaplain, and the virtues of Augustus
Whilst my living but castrated son invited me to a feast with the friends he had made
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Does anyone have dlc activator for CK2? thx
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thoughts on this europe?
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>>172738365
>>>strategium.ru
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>>172738424
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Eden was then introduced into the realm, whilst the Court Chaplain had taught him of the Romans, Bishop Balthere offered to teach him more about Christ and his message.
Worst of all the event though was how Eden came to blows with Baron Basileios, who's dynasty, the Isauroses, had long enjoyed protection in this realm.
Whilst of the St Swithuns, one girl he became fast friends with, whilst hurt him out of jealousy for how much attention her sister was getting. This friend would later be his wife to secure alliances with the St Swithuns.
When Mayor Wulf offered his sword to Eden and sparing lessons, Eden merely spat in his face and stuck his tongue out, claiming his scrolls were far more important than anything Wulf could offer.
At the end of this introduction, Eden and I sat down for another lesson, in which I stressed the importance of patience, which he berated me for doubting his knowledge, after all Alexander and Atiilla's empires fell to rushing it he said, whilst Augustus did not
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>>172738493
it's russian
i can't read it ;_;
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>>172738424
Pretty shit. Which mod?
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To secure land for Eden I told the 'King' of East Anglia to kneel, but no he barked, and was slain in the heat of battle, yet still their weakling fought on.
A delegation was sent to the Holy See to ensure the acceptance of the Pope in my wars, and so Mayor Cuthbert was sent. However he was quite the crippled man, and so by the time he arrived at the port, the ship had already sailed. But in doing so he found an Italian at the port selling wares, although very few, and told him to come to me to serve with my pikemen.
Eden was overjoyed at the prospect at talking to a real Italian, and so they came with a plan to build a statue of me, in a similar shape to Augustus that man Eden admired so much
>>
You have ten minutes to justify why GS games wouldn't be improved by including ways to manually fight battles, like in Total War.

Protip: It's impossible.
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The Lombards having been pushed westwards in their African possessions, decided war with the true Africans was better, however lose this they did due to failure of supply lines.
Whilst King Rupert finally died due to missing his bloodletting appointments to clear his Pox, but he died with a smile on his face during morning prayers
The appointment of an allies daughter as court jester was a crude way to start his reign, but perhaps it was some Esoteric comedy the Romans held
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However whilst Rupert had died smiling in church, Eden was a bit more sly, first he appointed a Hedonist and bishop as his court chaplain, and then began to seduce his stepmother.
Whilst Eden shagged his mother, his wife was out fighting Danes who threatened East Anglia
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Rate this Europe.
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My sterile brother took the Earl of Glouchester as a vassal, promising him greater protection, yet upon hearing of his plans to unite the Duchy of Hwicee, I began plans to seduce his wife, with quotes from Vergil no less.
Whilst all this happened the Hunchback of Totne finally accepted my superiroirty to his and ended the petty feud HE began all those years ago.
At last however my stepmother gave birth, and I was forced to admit the child was mine, which is good because my married wife had produced no boys yet, and just like his mother he was strong
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Many Muslim refugees fled to my court, as the King of Austrasia was finally conquering Saxony, one quickly married my commander and plopped out a genius child who was almost immediately betrothed to my bastard.
Upon hearing that someone wished to kill my wife, I searched for them, only to find it to be a rather thick woman who was merely lusting for my genitals, which she duly enveloped in exchange for ending the plot.
Whilst my castrated brother's wife finally gave birth to my cuckspawn, soon after betrothed to another bastard I spawned
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What's some fun and relatively easy small muslim start in ck2? Preferably somewhere around the afghani region.
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>>172739296
>tfw tried to get into total war games
>first 2 or 3 battles are fun
>but then it becomes tiresome and i start to automatically resolve every battle until i feel as if im playing bad version of paradox game
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Whilst my thick lover had to be married off to the King of Germany to maintain peace, I found a common barmaid to bed instead, who was the most adoring to listen to. But unfortunately she caught rabies a few months after she gave me a child


That's it for now, time to actually play the game
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>>172740263
>playing Vanilla
Atilla is the best base game but the modding is what you need for it to be great
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Keanu da Keana hasn't been promoted for 20 years, what gives?
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>>172737256
Show me north america
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Is there a quicl rundown on whats new in the asian dlc in eu4?
Ebin new buttons for dumping 100 monarch points?
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>>172740473
i played napoleon
how mods do change tw games anyway? more stuff to do outside of blobbing?
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fucking france
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>>172739752
>British Empire
>Ireland, Scotland and even England are all independent
What's going on?

And it's just one PLC away from being perfect.
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>>172740586
there's just France, UK and Mexico at the start
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>>172740889
Doing a playthrough with the British monarchy exiled to Australia, India and South Africa after the Chartist movement wins in the British isles. Australia is the new core of the British Empire and I'm going for a Pacific-Indian Ocean empire.
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lmaoing @ Royal Peru

>>172737606
I think I found it in the archive
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>>172741256
>>172740970
Is it based on HPM or PDM?
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And now I shall defend the Aenglish
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>>172740484
Keanu IV was so promising..

Still no rank raise though.
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Guys, I took it just before the third and probably the final war of Ottoman conquest of the Levant area. All I have to do is core jerusalem and release TO and march them. Phew!
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>>172742328
>so Keanu III died, and the lands were divided between his two sons (both named Keanu).
>Keanu IV died in a battle month after assuming the throne and his younger brother became Keanu II
>wait what
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Everything was going great until the Spanish joined the war and took Florida. And now none of my South American allies want to join the war.
Should I bum rush mexico's capital or deal with the Spanish stack?
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ah yes

>>172741312
vanilla
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>>172743038
lmao

drumpfkin getting BTFO, fuck white people
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I'm sorry who was saying Poles are untermenshc
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>>172740484
>Playing meme mod with unfinished dlc
>not expecting myriads of bugs
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>>172743503
the same people who thought any blonde blue eyed polish slavbaby was secretly ubermensch aryan true german
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>>172743281
You're not much help...
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There. Holy Trinity done. Apparently listed as "very hard". It wasn't so hard. Just had to do a couple of No-CB wars in the start of the campaign and then beat ottomans to jerusalem.
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>>172744331
I feel your pain. Anon skipped me too.
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>>172736102
neg_diplo is what you're looking for
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What's the best nation to play as in Divergences of Darkness
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>>172744378
What are the requirements for that achievement? Obviously Rome and Jerusalem, but what else?
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/gsg/ truly is the worst general
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>>172745656
As papal state you need to have Teutonic order and livonian order and the knights as marches. Then conquer jerusalem. That's it.
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I set meme invasion to delayed random, i thought that meant I had at least 50 years till these goys come

Why are they here already? Also i'm fucked just across the sea
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>>172746228
Because if you have satanists enabled they can arrive at literally any time under a possessed character.
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>>172746228
>activate meme dlcs
>get memed on
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>HRE doesn't want to marry my daughter because of prestige issues.
>Marries a lowborn.
Paradox, pls.
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>>172699437
How do i stop socialists in victoria 2, is there some way to ban them?
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>>172745663
moba generals are way worse
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>>172746778
You mean like monks and mystics? I don't even have it purchased

>>172746953
Need something to provide a challenge in the late game against my roman empire, guess I thought i had more time
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How do I ask the pope for a crusade
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>>172746778
>>172747129
Do you need a DLC purchased and activated for NPCs to use features from it?
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>>172747129
Hover over the kid's modifier - what does it say?
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>>172747274
She's a suspected demon spawn, but I thought that the whole event chain of them disappearing and coming back like this is part of M&M?

>>172747223
I'm starting to think the npc's can use the features from dlc you don't have, there's a guy who is suspected of being a secret society member in the realm. I didn't buy the new dlc because i didn't want its shit features, but if the AI can use em then whats the point
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>>172747638
>She's a suspected demon spawn, but I thought that the whole event chain of them disappearing and coming back like this is part of M&M?

You got meme'd on by Johan, enjoy the rest of your playthrough.
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Tell me who to play as. I only want a comfy campaign really. European nation please.
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>>172747727
I was considering just quitting because its early in the game, but I got a really good son and things are going really good, the emperor hasn't stopped internal vassal wars for once.

Hope she keeps fugging up Britain and leaves me alone, just gonna see where it goes
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I think I may have taken this Satanism thing too far.
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Wiki says it should be 1090 before he can call it, what ahppened
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>>172748041
cant it happen early if one of the owned christian holy cities are taken by an infidel? (Constantinople, Rome etc.)
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>>172747951
Polish pride!
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>>172747951
>vanilla
>no map mod
how about you play sub saharan niggers
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>>172748262
Yes but there's different conditions for each
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Crusades,_jihads_and_great_holy_wars#Unlocking_the_Crusades
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>>172748358
I have darker water mod.
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>CK2 Monks and Mystics is out. Check the 4chan archive.

I did and I can't find it anywhere.
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Ah yes when we're taking back Jerusalem why not attack italy in a punitive war
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>>172748271
Ok. Then the only thing I will really aim for is the hussars and the can into space (if I can manage to play until the end of the game that is).
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>>172749686
>finnish hyper war
can i get quick rundown on this
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Geheimnisnacht update fucking never
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>>172750042
The CK2 Warhammer mod? They're working on integrating the new DLC as we speak.
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>tfw you send your shitty 4 marshal 4th son to start a merc company hoping he dies

>years later he became a 27 marshal one eyed strategic beast slaying through the slav hordes as the leader of the most successful merc company in eastern europe

is this what is feels like to be proud?
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God the German male portrait is so shit,women are cute tho.

English portraits is the best one and if you disagree you have shit taste

>Other west Germanics dont use the portrait

Whats the point
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mayo and texas when?
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In CK2, why don't rulers ever send me marriage requests or betrothal requests for my family? I don't think I have ever had another ruler ask for and of my kids in marriage or anything else ever in my campaigns.

They always ask for random low born courtiers, never anyone related. Is this just not a thing? because that's pretty fucking stupid if so.
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>you can hire holy orders for free on crusade
ISDYIF
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>>172750623
>shit taste
nah familia, just real low standards
if it ain't the slavs/western kangz/old greek portraits it's acceptable
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>>172750945
they're always asing for my daugthers as soon as theyre 16 in my game
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>>172751021
>forgetting the worst of all, the Nahua portraits
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>>172750934
Theres one in le pdox forums already
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>>172751076
I guess people just don't like me then, the "political concerns" modifier on marriage is pretty dumb desu
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>>172751141
Nahua shouldn't even have portraits because they don't belong in a Medieval Feudal Simulator.
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>can't play HPM because it crashes when i pick a nation and hit play
>fuck
>patch v2 to 3.04
>HPM still crashes
>now vanilla crashes in the same way

FUCK
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>>172750435
>is this what is feels like to be proud?
No, that's what it feels like to be a Mongol, it's literally how their succession works.
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>>172751197
>le pdox forums
right

mayo and texas when?
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>pope declares crusade when abbassids still haven't broken up
>the cursaders focus on all the rebels
This is why I hire all the orders for myself
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HELP GSG
Okay so I have the larger army and all the commanders, but it says some irrelevant welsh Duchy is in command, how do I fix this
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>>172752624
Whenever I don't participate in the Crusades it seems like the Holy Orders do retardedly well.
Tuetonic Andalusia and Aragon, Hospitalier Cyprus and Syria, Templar Jerusalem and Sicily.
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>all 3 of my sons have become lusty faggots being educated by my liege

I thought the greek homo thing was a meme
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>>172752960
>I thought the greek homo thing was a meme
That's why the Varangians aren't worth the martial score.
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>>172752870
In command of what? your army? your liege?
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>>172753160
I didnt even sned him to the varangians, im greek my self and My liege has god-tier stats so I wanted him to educate my sons
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Cooldown for crusades is how long
>>172753165
as in the banner at the side of the battle icon, and in the battle report he's at the top
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Is Persia still broken in HPM?
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>>172753304
Is he a sub commander? in the reorganize troops screen like pic related
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>>172753281
If he's the Basileus then he'll make your kids gay. If he's a Despot or Doukas (is that what Greek Dukes are?), then you just got shit luck.

>>172753304
I want to say 30 years.
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>>172753637
2 sons have the attractive trait and the other brawny, If you are all homos can you seduce your brother like you can your sister? if so im gonna do some gay stuff
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In what GS game can I fight against globalism and support the nation-state?
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>>172753825
If I can seduce my daughter I don't see why you can't seduce your brother.
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>>172753943
Darkest Hour or Victoria II or lategame EU4.
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>>172754045
NWO mod for Victoria and Putinmod for DH right?
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Can someone post the latest meiou and taxes version?
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>>172754228
Oh, you meant in Modern Day. Then you want NWO for Victoria II, I think. If you want to be a real fascist, play Victoria Ultimate, even though it's one of the top two worst timeline extension mods.
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MP?
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>>172696654
Does Johan even have any say on CK2 anymore?
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Northern border secured.
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>>172754390
What's the second worst one? Also how shit/unplayable is Victoria Ultimate?
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>the Pope is Venom Snake
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I need advice
>Start as Zoroastrian in Abbasid caliphate
>Convert to Sunni but secretly stay Zoro
>Blobing inside caliphate for 100 years
>Almost ready to get independent
>Get murdered by my imbecile brother with 6 intrigue skill before i can convert my son to Zoro
How can I covert to local religion?
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>>172754661
Become independent or get educated as a religion different from your liege.
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>>172754521
>how shit/unplayable is Victoria Ultimate?
It's broken as hell before 1836, slightly less broken between 1836 and 1899, makes lategame Vanilla/GSG/HPM Vicky look like a masterpiece, pants-on-head between 1933 and 1950, irreparable between 1950 and 1999, and an absolutly unplayable trainwreck after 2000.

The one that's my personal second worst is Millenium Dawn for HoI4, it's politically biased as hell, runs like shit, and the focus trees are pure fanfiction-tier garbage.
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>>172754661
Heh, i guess that you will either have to convert sons son, or get elective monarchy and get some zorostian on the throne.

Either way your plans have prolonged by at least 5 years, unless your son converts by some event, or you find a way to commit suicide.

Or maybe you have a decision in intrigue tag to convert to local religion, if thats the case, thats the solution.
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>>172754907
So NWO is the go-to modern day mod? And yeah, i've tried Millennium Dawn and its pretty bad.
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>>172754647
better not disappoint him and join that crusade lad
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>>172755046
>So NWO is the go-to modern day mod?
I haven't played it a lot, but I would say that it's the best.

Though Extended Timeline EU4 can be fun, too bad patches made my Central African Empire to European Union game impossible to play anymore.
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>>172755201
Have they fixed unit gfx on that at least, so we aren't getting redcoats in the 20th century? Been awhile since I tried Extended Timeline.
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>>172754785
Had son educated by Zoroastrian but didnt get converted
>>172754935
Im muslim now so i cant change to elective and i dont know why but i dont have the decision in intrigue tab
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>>172755515
Kick a male-line Zoroastrian claimant out of your court, piss off all your vassals, accept the faction demand for your relative's claim when it inevitably comes.
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Can someone post the Rance infopic?
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>>172753375
no he fixed the bug that gave you shit tons of research points
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>victoria franchise is next
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>>172749936
Shame no one has made a game about it.
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>>172755515
Just fyi, they moved that decision to the context menu when you right click your portrait.
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>>172756157
/gsg/ memed a mod into existence for Victoria II, why can't we meme one up for Hearts of Iron IV?
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>>172756124
is it really? where did you hear this
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I haven't purchased Monks and Mystics, isn't the Jesus Society a part of that? Because My ruler died and my son is apparently the secret ruler of it
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>>172757209
Better roll your game back to the pre-MM patch.
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LOL
>>>/mlpol/
>>>/mlpol/
>>>/mlpol/
>>>/mlpol/
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>>172757787
/lit/ and /fit/ got merged too
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>>172757787
>>172758206
why couldn't /gsg/ /mbg/ and /twg/ finally unite as the greatest general and finally take over the board
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>>172758553
>/twg/

careful there anon
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SIXTEEN YEAR REGENCY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>172758778
>implying you can survive
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>>172758553
>/twg/

It was good before the shity Warhammer got release, then it became shity Warhammer cirklejerk
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>new ck2 dev diary
>NOW YOU CAN MAKE YOUR EBIN CAT INTO A COUNCILLOR XD CAN I HAZ COUNCIL SEAT LMAO
I'm done with this meme game.
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>>172729491
>Most nations in the world are shaped both strategically and also aesthetically
Post me twenty rulers that conquered land based on how it would look on the map. You have "most nations in the world" and all of human history to draw from. Once you post 20 I'm going to ask for another 20 so get ready. 40 out of 1000 isn't too bad.
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>300 raiders show up on the southern edge of my kingdom
>smack them down handily and take prisoners
>dark skinned 16 year old christian gothic girl is their leader
>married but still virgin, silly girl got herself captured literally as soon as she became an adult
>kept her safe under arrest for 4 years now
>still no mod/option to seduce her prison-style, take her as concubine, or otherwise breed her before releasing her back to her court, broken and carrying my sons in her belly
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first game of eu4 with mayo and talex
who should I play as
>>172759086
>shittywarhammer
Oh yeah because there are no warhammer mods for ck2 at all
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>border gore apologists are still unable to come up with anything but the internal HRE land distribution as an example of historical border gore
ok lads, well memed
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>>172760302
>Oh yeah because there are no warhammer mods for ck2 at all
What kind of braindead non-sequitur is that? It's hardly even mentioned here.
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I just installed the steam verison and enabled them all why isnt it working
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>>172760328
>UM SPAIN HAD LAND IN OTHER PLACES IN 17th CENTURY
>Europe still has perfect aesthetic blobs everywhere

wew
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>>172760256
whew you can take concubine on imprisoned fucking new fag
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>>172760498
a few months ago it was all the rage
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>>172760328
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Bangladesh_enclaves

>The India–Bangladesh enclaves, also known as the chitmahals (Bengali: ছিটমহল chitmôhol) and sometimes called pasha enclaves,[1] were the enclaves along the Bangladesh–India border, in Bangladesh and the Indian states of West Bengal, Tripura, Assam and Meghalaya. Within the main body of Bangladesh were 102 enclaves of Indian territory, which in turn contained 21 Bangladeshi counter-enclaves, one of which contained an Indian counter-counter-enclave – the world's only third-order enclave. Within the Indian mainland were 71 Bangladeshi enclaves, containing 3 Indian counter-enclaves. A joint census in 2010 found 51,549 people residing in these enclaves: 37,334 in Indian enclaves within Bangladesh and 14,215 in Bangladeshi enclaves within India.[2][3]

I'm not an apologist tho, this shit should be against the rules. The British empire has a lot to answer for.
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>>172760621
can't. she's a title holder, not a mere wife. that's the whole reason I want her to have my babies.
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>>172760256
get the underhanded tactics/merciless ruler mod, they let you culturally enrich prisoners and other things

The latter is better IMO
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>>172760696
>implying the British Empire wasn't the best thing to ever happen to this world
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>>172759146
It's April Fools you fucking autist
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>>172760806
fuck, rape was a part of torture mod but its outdated
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>>172760256
>dark skinned 16 year old christian gothic girl is their leader
Jesus Christ it sounds like CK2 is just getting worse with every patch
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>>172760823
I'm looking at underhanded tactics right now, do you know if either is compatible with ck2+?
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>>172760852
patrician detected
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see it's there
>>172760550
>>
Anybody here got the Switzerlake Achievement?
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>>172760957
and now it works with no shifted seas
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>>172760957
Just wait for 2.0
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>>172761058
yep. way too easy since you only have to focus on land
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>>172760937
I use Merciless Ruler Mod with HIP without problems, although it does require reapers due for some of the features

But its nice, because on top of the stuff it adds, all torture decisions no longer release the prisoner afterwards
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>>172761174
How long in game years? What year did you finish it?
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This should be interesting
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>>172761398
where did the ocean go
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>>172761293
early 1700's. there's a point you reach where expanding nonstop is easy
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New to CK2

Trying to expand through subjugation wars

As soon as I declare another neighbour of the target also declares a subjugation war

My troops enter the province before the other one who declared and I have more troops, but when the battle ends and the siege begins the other guy controls the siege

How do I fix this?
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What are the most realistic options in HIP?
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>>172761269
seems to work just fine with ck2+ as well, time to give this girl what she was looking for.
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>>172761398
Can you please give me the link of meiou and taxes mod?
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>tfw 1 vote away from being the Basileus-Elect of the Empire, by taking the benis of half the realms rulers because they are all homos

So this is what it feels like to be a woman
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>>172761730
>satan worshippers off
>no matrilineal marriages
>no supernatural events
>restricted de jure drift

probably something else
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>>172761837
just go to steam
Was picking Castille a bad idea as I seem to only have enemies and neutrlas
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>>172761642
Is it really hard in the beginning? Coalitions and so on? There's only two ways you can go. 1 is France and 1 is HRE and you can only get so far in France.
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New player here. I think I understand the logic/canon behind the coring system but why do the Ottomans get cores on all of Yugoslavia?
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>>172761817
Makes viking runs a lot more fun as well

The best part is, if the persons a ruler and you legitimize the bastard she has then he becomes the heir if there is no other kids.

Its happened a few time to me, not sure if its supposed to or not but its fun kidnapping and taking over realms through dickin'
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>>172762153
because balkans are part of turkish civilization
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>>172762228
No bait answers please it's a legit question.
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Cool
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Rate my Zoroastrian Tabarestan -> Shahanshah -> This is Persia
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>>172762623
I've been wondering, which nation(s) do you start with to form persia? Tabarestan? Is that a OPM? How does Persia always form out from nothing in all games, and is this something the player get to do as well?
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>>172762842
probably from timur horde
they're a big nation so rebels are often successful
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>>172762842
If you're going for the Shahanshah achievement, you have to start as Tabarestan. For This is Persia, you only have to form them, so you could start as Timurids or Qara if you wanted to, but you'd have to reform your government. Persia usually spawns from rebels in Timurid territory. There are several events for them that spawn Persian separatists, plus the non-accepted culture and religion naturally spawning them.
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>>172762179
that's precisely the plan right now, she's the perfect candidate for a realm rape, with no siblings and no children. unfortunately this child is pretty easily figured to be a rape baby and not her husband's, so we're just going to have to breed her again and again until she makes a bastard that can pass as a legitimate child.
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>>172761918
What do you use for Extra CB Cooldowns, Defensive Pacts and Pagan attrition?
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What are good nations to play in MEIOU to get used to its new mechanics
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>>172763428
milan is pretty OP
you dont even have to conquer stuff (although you should), just build shit related to development
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Is there any EU4 mod that makes AI more likely to attack native americans early on?

I'm tired of seeing aztecs stil existing in the 18th century
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>>172763802
reminder that flemish should have taken off not flat italians
>>172763683
I'm going to try the ottomans, then christianise late game
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>>172763802
hey
i hope you aren't one of these dumb protestants are you
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>>172764175
you're the only kid with no doggo
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>>172763802
>>172764175
When will they learn?
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>>172764298
*blocks your path*
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>>172764463
leave doggo alone you little cunt
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I started MEIOU and there is a shit fest at the map, literalt a nation called tel kayr in the middle of hungary, and fuckin Kmer in wallachia, and much more shit like that. WTF?
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>>172764463
Nice hairline lmao
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>>172764463
look at this uncultured peasant thinking he can compete with real nobility
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>>172764890
>1630
>still wearing trousers
I bet your Father spent all his florins on a new barge ha
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>>172764568
>tel kayr
are you sure that it wasn't tel aviv by any chance?
anyway either post screen or check your mods because there might be some conflict
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>>172765042
See for yourself, it might be that it is some DLC uncompatiable.
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>>172765343
there were lots of trade routes in 1356
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>>172765343
Yea it must be fucked up prov ids or something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel_Ayr
>Kel Ayr (also Kel Aïr) was a semi-nomadic Tuareg tribal confederation. It ruled an area centered on the Aïr Mountains (Aïr Massif) in what is today Niger.
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>>172765343
Are you playing on newest patch?
Check your mod list, maybe something fucks your game up
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Pay denbt
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>>172765673
>cropping
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Pure coincedence goyim
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>>172765776
That's your criticism? Not that he took a picture of his monitor?
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>>172762027
Yeah it's really hard in the beginning. You kinda have to get lucky.
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>>172766201
dont do it, its trash
either jizya or convert
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>>172765343
This happens to me too, if you find a solution please post it.
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>>172766201
That's one of the things I never got about EU4 - if Ottomans lose all their lands west of the straits their infantry should lose all their pips and become African tier.
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>>172766201
Do you by any chance have this bug? >>172765343


Also are you running any DLC's?
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green tea
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>>172766482
Got all the DLC's just reload
this happened to me before>>172760550
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>>172766730
coffee
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Someone explain to me why I can have 2k manpower available and suddenly a peasant revolt churns out a 20k rebellion. EU4.
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It will recquire a general to unite the turks, so that is why my heir shall be
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>>172761167
>Just wait till Christmas
No.
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What should I do, /gsg/?
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>>172766482
I have the map bug and playing with the DLC's enabled or not doesn't make a difference, either way it's fucked up and it CTDs as soon as you start the game.
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https://youtu.be/yvcUKJ3WrGU

>shitty indie engine to make normalfags laugh
>gtx 980, i7 6700, 16gb ram
>100,000 fucking soldiers
>10-20 fps

I think we're on to something here. Grand strategy with open battles when?

Besides, TW franchise is dead and the warscape engine struggles after 10k troops regardless of your rig.
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>>172760696
>The British empire has a lot to answer for.

Yeah, like uniting India, bringing civilisation to Africa and creating the modern world.
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>>172767179
So does anyone have any solution?

I mean i could ignore it, but i can't ignore East Anglia being owned by Oman of all things and being ibadi and having parts of France being under no other than Great Timurids.

It's almost comical.
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Does anyone have that chart thing that tells you what reforms you should take to get the most efficient westernization?

I want to play as Somalia and I need to figure out how to westernize before 1880 so I don't die.
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>>172767436
US fucked latin america and thats why its a shit hole
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>>172767472
clear map cache
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I don't know what I'm doing wrong while trying to add mods to my (pirated) EU4. I download the mod from steamworkshop downloader, extract and place the mod and the descriptor file into the mod folder within my eu4 folder.
When I then launch the game the mod doesn't show up on the game launcher.
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>>>/qa/1197280
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>>172767716
Clearing the map cache doesn't do anything to fix it.
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finally got enough boats to beat them TO WAR
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>>172767545
bend over to the italians you finook
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>>172767218
>look up largest medieval battles
>none of them have had 100k or more troops participating

Feels disappointing man
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CK 2 question, its better to make vassals from your dynasty or random lowborn?
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>>172768739
are you minmaxing cuck? lowborn
are you patrician who can roleplay? dynasty
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>>172768739
Dynasty: marry strategically, birth children, assassinate rivals, expand influence.
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>>172768739
If you land dynasty members it's real easy to inherit them if they die so it essentially allows you to centralize even more.

On the other hand, this will lead to more title claimants than before and lots of internal wars. And by that I mean your kangdom or empire will be in a state of eternal, non-stop war and your vassals will be weaker on average, which is not necessarily a good thing.
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>>172768413
I dont really wanna see battles with more than 40k soldiers, even if historically accurate, because they would take too long.

But it would be nice to see things like sieges with 20k or more soldiers playing smoothly without stuttering.
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>>172768873
I usually award dynasty but im tired of having -50 with all vassals because everyone is fucking pretender
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>>172768739
Dynasty, always dynasty. The reason is because you can spam NAPs with them upon succession, and also because that's the most efficient way to spread your dynasty and produce more members
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>>172768983
How can you expand your influence by giving land to your dynasty?
If u want the land just keep it
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>>172768983
Dynasty, as long as they do not have claims or about to inherit claims to your titles. That +5 relation bonus is nice, and you can use countless of mechanics that help you out.

might cause serious inbreeding late game, since your vassals arrange marriages with each other
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>Muscovy is fighting both the Commonblob and France
>and doing pretty well
Guess I don't have to bully the Poles.
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>>172767716
How to?
I mean where is it located?
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I'm in over my head with this satan shit.
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>>172769403
Landing the dynasty makes them more valuable, which makes them easier to marry off to better targets, which makes it easier to bring *other* lands into your empire.
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absolute madmen
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(CK2) County i want to take next raised a tribal army - will it ever disband (like warriors, zealots) or am i going to have to deal with this?
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If I'm marrying sons off to countesses, should I give my son some land so I get this one province in a forgeing country that can easily be lost with a de jure war
Also how much will this piss off my ally if I'm sapping provinces from his realm slowly but surely
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>>172770634
it disbands the second they end the war
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>>172770746
this must be something different then?
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>>172770007
>elysian empire
>surprised when he gets memed on
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>>172768739
Nothing below the count level, nothing I directly rule over. I like to have my sons fight each other whenever possible
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>>172770732
You are larping a dynasty, not a country.
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>>172771326
I don't think you are supposed to LARP while playing CK2. That's pretty fucked up.
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>last war with mercia my mercs defected to them over pay
>this time they defect to me as he couldnt bring himself to borrow fro mthe jews
NOICe
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Should I use ck2+ or HIP? Also, is there anywhere they're mirrored so I can use them? Sadly, I have this horrible poverty thing.
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>>172771717
and morale meant I lost 5k whilst they lost 2k
so they'rewn ow back to the numerical advantage
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>>172768739
>land dynasty
>blob
>get dudes owning counties in 4 separate kingdoms
It gets nastier if de jure drift enabled, and complete border gore after plague.
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>>172771847
http://hip.zijistark.com/releases/latest.pl
here's HIP
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>>172772371
Work with monks and mystics?
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Why are you depressed, /gsg/?
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>>172772474
yep they updated it a little over a week ago
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amazing
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>>172762153
Are we talking vicky 2? That land has been ottoman for what, 400 years? Something like that.
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>>172772845
now do one with evil jew event picture and something about releasing new dlc and getting greedy+sympathy for judaism trait
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How the fuck do you expand and gain power as a count in the Byzantine Empire?
Every single time no matter what you do the first thing the emperor does is outlaw internal vassal wars for no reason at all.
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>>172772371
Danke.
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>>172772845
Because I had more numbers, and he was crossing the river, and he had only one commander but I still lost. He's also 173 in debt which should worsen his morale
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>>172773282
You wait for the fourth crusade and then declare your independence, or be on an external border of the empire so you can invade other nations. That's it.
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>>172767652
lol
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>>172773603
I considered that but I wanted to start in Sicily because I recently watched The Godfather.

It seems that the only way to succeed in taking over the whole dutchy is to use marriage, succession laws, and lots of assasinations.

I've already got my children working on intrigue and I'm planning on having a court full of 15+ intrigue guys with 100 opinion of me so that I can invite people to court to die instantly.
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>look at pictures of old EU4 games
>lots of different colonies in the Americas plus independent colonies, European countries actually colonizing India and Oceania
>Prussia/Teutonic Order being a thing instead of being blobbed by Poland early on
I can't believe that they made EU4 worse.
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finished barbarossa in darkest hour, should i create the reichkommisariats or keep the territory annexed?
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>>172774639
>old eu 4
>colonies
huh?
>>Prussia/Teutonic Order being a thing instead of being blobbed by Poland early on
Prussia historically survived only because of mercy of germanboo tsars
and Poland got nerfed fairly hard anyway
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Lads, how do I get my nun sister to fugg me?
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>>172775014
Lithuania was buffed horribly, though.

And I was wrong, it's just Brandenburg.
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>>172773970
>I wanted to start in Sicily because I recently watched The Godfather.
invade the pope then.
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>>172775268
>Western Europe colonizing Siberia
I will never not be disgusted by this
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>>172775328
We are of like minds in that regard, anon. I'm already trying to do just that. I've got a war chest ready and everything. I just hope the emperor protects me when the Catholics come after me. I wonder if I can take a pilgrimage to Rome if it's my own capital. Come to think of it I have no clue how that works since I've never taken a pilgrimage to my own counties.
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>>172775142
>>
I'm still playing Europa Universalis 3. I bought EU4 when it first came out, but I disliked it the 3-4 times I've re-installed and always went back to 3. Is it really popularly seen as such an upgrade as that infographic suggests?
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Why does Krakow start with 108% tax efficiency in HPM? Every other country starts with like 23%.
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>>172747971
That happened to me too.

Then I got the event to kill a rival satanist on my own Antichrist daughter and so did.
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>>172775758
Nah. I also downloaded EU4 when it came out, and I didn't like it so I went back to playing EU3. I think the EU4 players are mainly people who started playing GS recently.
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>>172775692
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>>172775268
That reminds me. One thing I don't see nearly often enough is austria grabbing hungary.
>>172775652
You can totally go on pilgrimage to your own country. otherwise a blobbing ERE wouldn't be able to go on pilgrimage.
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>>172776097
Incensius
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>>172776381
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>>172776381
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>>172775810
>>
Official portrait ratings.
>GOAT tier
English portraits.
>Great tier
Baltic portraits
Persian portraits
Greek portraits.
>Good tier
Ethiopian portraits.
Italian portraits
German portraits
>Acceptable tier
Norse portraits
East Slavic portraits
Celtic portraits
Turkish portraits
>Shit tier
Default portraits
Arab portraits
West African portraits
Indian portraits.
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>>172776381
>>172776454
>>172776473
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>>172776568
>turk portraits
>east slavs portraits
>not shit tier
also persians arent immunized to grosse chins so they should be acceptable tier
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>>172776568
>English portraits.
Male or female?
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>>172775810
historically it was basically a "free city" outside of the HRE
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>>172775328
>>172776301
Wow. I can't believe that actually worked.
I hired a band of Catholic Mercenaries from Lombardy and they just walked right on in, kicked the Pope's ass, and made me the new Duke of Latium. I guess I should probably go out and take Jerusalem now for the hell of it.

Good thing this guy's not my Pope otherwise I'm pretty sure I'd be excommunicated right now.
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>>172776847
I know, but what does that have to do with its base tax efficiency in HPM?
I don't have some kind of "famously effective polish tax collectors" modifier anywhere I can see. Is this a bug?
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>>172776803
They're both sexy as fuck.
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>>172776973
no, it's historically accurate. another thing to keep in mind is that krakow is an OPM, and most single provinces have abour 1% bureaucrats, so it evens out to 100% efficiency. if you annexed another province, it would fall to half
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>>172776756
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>>172777406
His name shall be William of Normandy.
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>>172776973
>famously effective polish tax collectors
Poland had a very large and prosperous Jewish community.
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>>172777281
Tax efficiency isn't affected by admin efficiency, is it? Whenever I play a small country I get 100% admin in all provinces within a few years, but I am still around 25% tax efficiency. Usually that only goes up when I research certain techs.

I'm so used to setting taxes to 100% in 1836 that I had no idea why my pops were starving to death. Every Vic2 tutorial out there says you can just set taxes to 100% at the start of the game because your efficiency is low and the effective tax rate will only be twentysomething percent.
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>>172777406
Niggerman.
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>>172777476
By what mechanism does Krakow have a different tax efficiency than every other country? UBP starts without about the same Jewish population (around 5%) and yet doesn't have an abnormal tax efficiency.

It sounds like no one knows the answer to what I'm asking. I'm not asking how to justify it, I'm asking by what means this came to be in the game, because I've never noticed a country to have a different tax efficiency at the start before.
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>>172777117
r8
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>>172777960
Looks like 3d porn.
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>>172777777
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>>172777960
Gave me a boner.

Also it's shit that Anglo-Saxons don't get English portraits.
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>>172778293
>THIS new
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>>172778293
>>172777777
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>>172778293
>>172778565
>>172778710
retards
>>172777777
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Can someone explain to me how raiding works in CK2?
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When an inevitable war happens in the east how the fuck do I get my armies out there without freezing to death?
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>>172778921
We're in a shitpost cycle right now, ask again later.
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>>172778921
Get your raid-squad
Click the little axe and fire symbol
Go to neighbouring infidel territory (or any infidel territory if Norse)
Siege
Get loot.
If you're raiding overseas you need to get back on your boat before you can collect the loot.
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my computer stopped running most programs and I cant play gsg anymore, how do I fix it
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>>172779041
Just let them have those shitty territories, they'll freeze to death eventually too.
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r8 my fashy borders
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>>172779769
It looks like a big gay blob.

Also what's playing Brits like in After the End?
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>>172779769
>Québec
>once more conquered by the British

how sad
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>>172779769
That Rust Empire is pure cancer.

What happened to it?
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>>172776892
Yeah, the papacy is surprisingly easy to curbstomp, assuming you don't mind the pope showing up with a gigantic army every 10 years until you mend the schism.
Now start revoking the titles of bishops or whatever underneath you so you can replace them with orthodox vassals.
>>172779041
Let them die of attrition while trying to get to the west, then retake the east
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>eu4 is not complete sh-
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Can anyone tell why it is that my only inheritance options are Gavelkind and Elective Gavelkind? Is this a bug?

I'm on medium crown authority and trying to switch to ultimogeniture.
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>>172779041
Hello my russian brother. I think you should get mercs over there when time comes.
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It begins brothers ..
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>>172780986
Dunno why the war is blank there, it's a crusade for Jerusalem and France just joined gg
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German women are the qtest,no contest

If only the male portraits wre as near as good as this
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I'm trying to play 2.7 but I haven't played CK2 since 2.4.5. At some point since 2.4.5, allied AI armies stopped simply attaching to the player's armies and went full EU4 AI retard mode: never attaching to my armies, walking piecemeal into the enemy armies, never attaching to my other allied AI armies...
Is there any simple fix to this? I hope someone knows what I'm talking about.
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>>172780246
I inherited half of my territory from mummy without expecting it - she wasn't heir when I married her but inherited anyway and ended up forming an empire and vassalised Ontario somehow. Pic related. I could have blobbed far more than I already ended up inadvertently doing if I was trying to.

British have literally no unique or interesting mechanics and have no cultural retinue. I enjoyed it though because I was in a difficult position as High Church wedged between Americanists, Evangelicals and Occultists.

>>172780561
Child ruler made it implode I'm pretty sure. Emperor was Atomicist with mostly Rust Cultist vassals. As it is now it's mostly Christian in the north and Rust Cultist in the south.
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>>172781242
you can tell them to attach to you or go siege some shithole if you have the satanist dlc
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>>172780870
The stuff you have red is:
holder_scope = { NOT = { has_character_flag = liege_forced_succ_law } }
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>>172781415
Never played with modding/console so I'm unfamiliar with what this means. Any way I can fix it in an ironman game?
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>>172781295
Is Thelema not even fleshed out?
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How is levy upkeep calculated?
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>>172781839
Apparently you get it when your liege forces you to change succession laws. So as Emperor, you really shouldn't.
Unless the previous Emperor forced you to change and the flag stuck. There doesn't seem to be anything taking it away.
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Jerusalem will be ours it seems
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>>172782254
Must've been because I was demanding gavelkind on all my kings, then. Thanks, going to have to try to win the election then.
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r8 my Bourbon French Empire so far

Initially I just wanted to create a comfy African Empire but the Huns forced my hand so I had to carve them up. They just recovered from their last defeat so soon I will have to put them back in their place, hopefully releasing the poles as well.

Bongs have been a pain as well but now that I have a larger navy I'm just waiting for a chance to tear them down.
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I've taken the entire north and west of Africa as Spain, and I'm poor with shit tech. Is this just a really shit place to take, or am I not doing imperialism properly? Did I miss something?
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>>172783394
If EU4, yes. Berber land costs twice as much to core and is shit land. West Africa has some gold but is mostly shit.

If Vicky, yes. Sahara land is shit.
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>>172773030
No sorry 1444 EU4.
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>>172783158
when will you drill additional anus for krauts
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>>172783602
EU4 coring has no logic behind it. All nations start off with cores on all starting territory, and considering you can make something a core in a couple years after conquering it, it's rather trivial.
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Hah, as the first crusade for Jerusalem continues it seems the Arabs are punished by God with rampant consumption
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>>172783158
You're left bank territory is looking a little thin friendo
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>>172783525
EU3. Never bothered to learn the mechanics in EU4.
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We have won and Jerusalem has been created
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>>172783158
>>172783757
The Huns will be punished now

For the past 60 or so years I have successfully played off the SGF/AH with the NGF, usually they fight a war every decade and the SGF/AH frees up a state from the NGF or the NGF cuts one of them down to size. It's in their nature to engage in pointless infighting so I've always been happy to help them. Little do they realize that the only real obstacle towards a united German state is myself.

The Austrians have gotten much worse lately though, so I have to make sure that the barbarians east of the Rhine are all equally weak.

>>172784275
Belgium has been my ally and friend for about 20 years, Luxembourg isn't worth the infamy and the Netherlands would look ugly. I would take it off of SGF but they've always been friendly to me and it isn't worth a potential NGF-SGF alliance for one province.
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>>172785419
liberate polacks from russia and germans, they were greatest french allies
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>>172785419
The first major battle of the war results in a unsurprising victory for France. With this kind of momentum Berlin should be in sight in no time!
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>>172781218
They look nothing like Germans though. Looks Polish or another type of Slav.
>American artistic designers in charge of knowing what different white nationalities look like
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If I culture shift into Greek as Christan Ottomans can I change into Jerusalem? Or is that exclusive for Cyprus and the Knights?
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>>172786701
yea
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>>172786356
A small band of German forces tries to surrender to the mighty French Army. Their white flags were no match for our brave men
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>>172786564
kys
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>>172786701
only knights and cyprus
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>>172786806
t. american "white" nationalist
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>>172786764
>>172786961

Sheeit, alright then. Thanks.
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>>172786564
Except they do, I live in Germany and I am fucking German even. The German portraits do look German.
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>>172786783
And with the peace treaty in effect, the world is made right again
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Is there anyway to play MEIOU and Taxes? It always crashes
and no, my computer is not shit.
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>>172787516
Where in Germany do you live? If you live in any of the DDR territories that were raped by Slavs my point still stands.
>inb4 you say heligoland just to be an ebin memer
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>>172787757
>Nothing happening to NGF or its colonies despite being dismantled
hmmmm

At least Mosley is doing well for himself
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>>172781389
That would be a pain in the ass to do for 20+ tribal vassals every time I need to call them to arms. I think I'll just stick with 2.4.5 desu. I wish they would stop breaking things just so they can call it a 'new' feature.
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>>172772845
>some lad makes a nice meme template that could begin a nice, friendly off-topic chat
>no one replies other than a couple of mongs who didn't even get his post
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>install rape mod and enjoy raping babies into my countess prisoner
>years later
>my niece-concubine-shieldmaiden-commander gets captured by revolting jarls
>she gets raped and impregnated by a filthy slav
>i'm a cuck for this and she is dishonored

I guess I asked for this.
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>>172788219
>off-topic
its ck2 you mong
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>>172788481
Why else would he put Kev in there?
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>>172788086
Oh, now it fired

>NGF loses all of East Prussia escept some random chunk that has no value
>Actually lose territory and Rhineland is released as my puppet despite me owning the vast majority of the territory and with no desire to take more

Pretty epic, might have to changeowner away Rhineland now. Why the hell would it railroad you into losing the Rhine?
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>>172789162
Why would you not take Kaiserslautern?
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>>172786564
Crusader Kings 2 is made by Swedes.
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>>172786564
The only difference between Germans and others is that Germans have wider, fatter faces. Like their ancestors fucked the Chinese at some point and that's the one trait they retained.
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>>172789304
No point. its already in a catholic state, already friendly to me, and its only a single province. Not worth the infamy when I had to take over the entirety of North Africa.

If I had it would I still lose the entire Rhine?
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>>172789559
>Like their ancestors fucked the Chinese at some point
Huns and tartars and mongolios, m8
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>>172788840
Who?
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>>172786564
>American
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>frogposters
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>>172789761
Those never reached Germany, anon.
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>>172729934
I like free Czech as well but release Slovenia.
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>>172789162
pls changeowner Olsztyn to Poland.
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>no meiou and taxes for 1.19.2
well..
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>>172789978
I guarantee one of the graphic developers is American. How else could he make Germans look like Slavs, Norse look like Russian, Russians look like celts and Celts look like spackers.
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>>172791334
Swedes have no concept of national identity and aesthetics of course they cant make anyone look right
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Flavormod for HoI3 V1.0.8 - Heß edition
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

Changelog -
-Added events for Rudolf Hess's flight to Scotland, and a potential negotiated peace between Germany and the Allies
-Re-activated the Ecuadorian-Peruvian war events from vanilla
-Added events for the Salonika Agreement of '38
-USSR will invade Germany if they aren't at war by the summer of '42
-Added WIP events for the Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran
and numerous bugfixes and fine-tuning

Up next:
Operation August Storm, and improvements to the Sino-Japanese War
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>>172790719
>It's the hurrr Huns pillaged in German lands therefore Germans are Huns

Wew m'lads looks like Greeks and Romans are Scandinavian
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>>172786356
>>172787995
You're stupid, just never open your mouth again.
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The Anglo will soon be destroyed
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>>172791334
I don't know about wh*te portraits but i personally like Turkish ones, they clearly depic how Oghuz (Turks Turkmens and Azeris) looked/looks like. It could be a little bit browner and look more like Persians though
t. turk
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>>172791727
I'm thinking you wanted to reply to the same person as I did, instead of to me.
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>>172792030
Aree you retarded? They look like Mongols.
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>>172780742
Oh, hey, Trebizond is largely where it should be.
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>>172792030
How can you live with yourself?
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>>172792041
True that m'sir

*upboats your post*
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>>172792083
Have you ever seen an asian in your life time before
Or a better question, have you gone outside after 2007?
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>>172792203
What are you on about? Turks don't look like Mongols.
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>>172792408
exactly. if they made the turk/oghuz portraits mongol i'd cry.
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>>172789559
You mean in real life? Because that is wrong. When will you people understand that there is no "one true German" look? What even is a wide face? A square one? Because that's a primitive trait, you do realize Nordics and any other depigmented mediterranean stock in a relatively pure form is built on progressive features and therefore have long faces?
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I never realized how strong Italy is V2. I did a Papacy game where i just had France help me conquer the Italian peninsula and i was #6, after the Italian unification event i became #2 with like 180 divisions possible.

Italy just shits out prestige, pretty insane, I have like 680 and the next highest is 400.
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IS THE CK2 LEWDMOD STILL ALIVE??
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>>172792171
I drink an innocent Greek's/Armenian's/Serb's blood everyday
If i don't get my daily dose of christian blood i die
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>>172792408
Turks don't look like Mongols because the Turks in Anatolia aren't real Turks as in Turkmen. Anatolians are either ethnic to the region or mixed with other people.
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>>172792487
Lad, these are Mongol. Turks don't have Epicanthic folds, the portraits for them do.
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>>172792816

>tfw Albanian that genuinely likes Turkey and Turkish history but can never outmyself on chans because of how badly turks are hated
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>>172792518
So you're saying white people all look like horses?
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>>172792816
You're probably a mix of Greek/Armenian anyways.
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>>172792817
>Turks don't look like Mongols because the Turks in Anatolia aren't real Turks as in Turkmen
The problem is Turkmens -most of them- don't look mongol either
but you're right about mixing
>>172792901
I don't see slanted eyes in that portrait. Only small eyes
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>>172792814
It got updated for monks and mystics, so it's curated at least.

>>172792901
How many times do you have to be told that the fucking turks were straigh up Asians, but they only occupied the upper class then bleached themselves with white concubines and wives? Same fucking reason the Hungarians are called 'Magyars' despite being white and why Finns are called 'Finno-Ugric' despite being white too. Some shitty Asians conquered them at some point, forced a language on them, then died out because there was only tiny number of asian warlords for the european peasantry.
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>>172792814
Which one
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>>172792903
>his nation gets ruined by Turkey
>likes Turkey

Damn why do you think this general wants to turn you in to fuel.
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>>172792903
Are you muslim or human?
Kosovo je Srbija
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>>172792817

Turkmen are Oghuz, they're far more similar to Anatolian Turks than Turkic peoples.
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>>172792971
So you be saying we wuz Byzantinez and shiet?
Damn infidels, read a book.
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>>172793160
He's an Albanian, anon. Like the Bosnians, his ancestors converted to Islam and loved ottoman cock. They're scum.

>>172793180
He said he was Albanian.

>>172793021
Throughout all of Central Asia it's the same. White natives got conquered by Asian tribes. Gave them squintier eyes, rare cases of epicantal folds, otherwise intact.
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>>172793141
>people from the steppe are east asian
By this logic everybody in Europe shiuld have epicanthic folds
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>>172793141
Are you an American or a leaf
Because that was the most retarded thing i've ever read in my life.
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After like a month my raiding party gets the little skull icon next to them saying that I've been out of my territory for x days. I used to be able to raid for years before, what happened?
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>>172793327
They're not from the steppe. Turks, Ugyurs, Mongols, all of them are nomadic peoples from east asia who migrated to Central Asia, conquered the whites living there, then >>172793321 and >>172793141 occurred.
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>>172793160

It didn't get ruined by Turkey, it was ruined by communism. Any Balkan person that blames the Turks for the state of their country 100-150 years after the fact is a giant pussy that can never own up to his own country's shit.

>>172793180

Catholic, and if that's so, come and get it.

>>172793321

Albanians and Bosniaks converted because the church was exceptionally weak in those regions, furthermore Albanians were Catholic mostly and it wasn't offered protection in the Ottoman state as Orthodoxy was.

Finally, the vast majority of Muslim Greeks/Bulgarians left for Turkey and were assimilated, and the Muslim Serbs are now Bosniaks. If that never happened most Balkan nations would be plurality Muslim or more probably.
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Monks and Mystics download where
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>>172793141
>>172793143
I mean the one the anon here was going to develop, not Dark World. Haven't heard anything about it in weeks.
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>>172793454
t. Dumbfuck that thinks modern turks are from the Turkic tribes.
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>>172793509
can you stay in your shithole instead of coming in our shithole?
t.italian
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>>172793509
>Catholic
Based and white.
Why do you even like the Turks then? Most Albanians like them because they're Muslim filth.
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>>172793228
That's bullshit because Anatolians are mixed with all kinds of different peoples. First of all you will have to figure out what people were originally living in Anatolia. Which in itself isn't going to give you a good answer because Anatolia was an important place for Neolithic human migration into Europe. Basically, Anatolians are a mix of many people.
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>>172793624
Modern Turks are from Oghuz Tribes that mixed with Central Asian Iranians/Persians who also mixed with greeco-anatolians when they came to anatolia.
Also you have not answered my question, are you a leafy or a fatty?
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>>172793509
Your country is now a muslim theocracy.
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>>172793509
>Catholic
That's bad.
Islam makes more sense than Chr*stianity.
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>>172793675

Most Albanians in Italy have been there since the 15th century m8, but yes I'm aware modern Albanian diaspora has mostly been shit. Normal Albanians always apologize on their behalf, trust me its more embarrassing for us than for you.

>>172793703

Well they have an interesting history and had one of the strongest empires, plus today they've been our natural friends so I'm not gonna backstab them. BTW, there's no difference between Christian and Muslim Albanians. If you find a retarded Albanian chances are he's from Kosovo or Macedonia.


>>172793790

Top kek lad, news to me. I think Albania is the 13th least religious country on earth.
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>>172794064
>Well they have an interesting history and had one of the strongest empires
you should also read about Seljuks and Safavids.
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>>172794064
>50% mud
>least religious
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>>172791334
I'm going to guess by your fanatic anti-Americanism and the fact that you don't know what Europeans look like despite obviously being European that you're an Anglo.

Celtic portraits are legit. 500% Gaelic, red-diesel smuggling culchies IRL look like CK2 portraits.
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>>172792940
No because Nordic people aren't the only white people in Europe? And no, a long face doesn't mean one is horsefaced. I suggest you read coon if you're actually interested in this topic.
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>>172794232
Everyone who has a brain hates Americans and USA
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>>172794064
>BTW, there's no difference between Christian and Muslim Albanians.
top fucking kek, from experience even I could tell you otherwise
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>>172794232
>I'm going to guess by your fanatic anti-Americanism and the fact that you don't know what Europeans look like despite obviously being European that you're an Anglo.
This is actually some extremely impressive detective work, lad, you are unironically correct.
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>>172791334
>How else could he make Germans look like Slavs
You DO realize that East and West Baltid, which is a major subrace if not the main race for white Russians, is also a significant subrace in Germany.
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You should not argue about how Germans/Europeans look like
For us, you're all white subhumans
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>>172794278
>Implying I trust a man named Coon with race profiling.
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>>172785419
>doesn't own everything on the left bank
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>>172794623
Yeah okay, cool joke. But seriously, just do it. If anthing it'll make you laugh at how ignorant the average dude on this board is when it comes to race.
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>>172793760
>He still hasn't answered
I really hate those who talk about the subjects that they don't know yet i love to btfo them, it feeds my ego
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>>172794167

>In August 2012, Pew Research study found out that only 15% of the Muslim population for example, consider religion as a very important factor in their lives, which was the lowest percentage in the world amongst countries with significant Muslim populations.[3]

>Another survey conducted by Gallup Global Reports 2010 shows that religion plays a role to 39% of Albanians, and lists Albania as the thirteenth least religious country of the 114 surveyed.
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>>172794605
As if anyone cares about what aryan rapebabies pig-faced hunter-gatherer cucks thinks.
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>>172795086
Post the full list please.
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>>172795094
I have no white scum blood in me
Try harder
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>>172795160
Sorry, I misread and thought you were a germ.
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>>172795157

I can't find it from the citation but heres the 2009 ranking of the top 10. Last place is 34% and since Albania is 39% it logically follows that it should be around 13th.
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>>172795094
Are you insulting yourself? Or are you saying you have no hunter and gatherer genes in you? So basically, you're not white? Is that what you're saying?
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>be strong and proud Illyrian people
>one of the major contributors to the Roman empire
>stuck with the ERE following the split
>maintain your true orthodox beliefs following the schism between Rome and Constantinople
>bravely defend your homeland against the turks for decades in the 15th century
>after years of defiant struggle against the Islamic horde you get overrun due to Christian infighting
>Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece, Croatia, Hungary, Transylvania, Wallachia, Moldavia, Macedonia, and even the Romaniotes, the Greek Jews, manage to defend their unique culture, religion, traditions, and practices against centuries of Turkish muslim oppression as their people were made into slaves
>be albania
>willingly accept turkish rule, convert to Islam and make your culture near identical to them, abandoning your millenia long traditions
Albania has to be one of the worst countries in history, no other people have so willingly abandoned everything that they held dear simply to make life a little easier, we make fun of Americans for having no culture but at least they decided to stand up for what they believed in, Albania threw everything into the fire either out of weakness, self loathing, fickleness or any combination of the three. If any people deserve to be wiped from the Earth it is the Albanians.
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>>172795289
Don't associate me with Germans
>>172795419
>willingly accept turkish rule, convert to Islam and make your culture near identical to them, abandoning your millenia long traditions
I see nothing wrong with that. kys subhuman
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>>172795419
Don't forget the Bosniak filth.
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>>172795316
I thought Russia was fairly religious.
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>>172795419
>>be strong and proud Illyrian people
>
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>>172795737
Islam makes more sense than Shitianity.
Christians worship 3 gods and a fucking piece of wood and think Jesus was Allah's son.
Can you really blame them for converting? I can't. Because Christianity is for blue pilled cucks
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>>172795419

That would be a nice theory and all if not for the fact that every ex-Ottoman Balkan country has an extremely similar culture, and thus a similar culture to Turkey. Religion is the only point of difference.
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>>172795861
>think Jesus was Allah's son.
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>>172795998
christards really believe that, lol
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>calls castile in for war
>AI decides to march across all of north africa to get to me instead of using navy

top zozzle, fuck eu4.
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>>172795887
Islam is Turkey's entire culture, and the entire culture of all Muslim nations, so try again.
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>>172796257
>Islam is Turkey's entire culture and the entire culture of all Muslim nations
Only an ameriretard could post this
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>>172796257

t. knows nothing about the Balkans but feels the need to talk about it anyway

Are you American by any chance?
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No music in after the end?
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>>172795861
>Thinks god will send him to hell for eating pig.
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>>172796349
Only a Turk would disagree.
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>>172796349
>>172796361
>this many butthurt t*rks
Lads, Atatürk's dream is dead. Erdogan is turning Turkey into a theocracy.
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>>172793509
>Catholic
It always struck me as odd that Albanians gave up orthodoxy so quickly while Catholics stayed during the entirety of Ottoman rule. Why didn't the catholic albanians convert as fast as the orthodox?
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>>172796562
>Let me tell you about your culture
First you tried to associate me with byzantines
now this
>>172796637
I'd love to argue with you but you're an Am*rican who's probably illiterate/never read a book.
I just want 9/11 to rehappen so that we can get rid of some of you.
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>>172794157
>Seljuks
Except they had like 1 good sultan and promptly went to shit.

The Ottomans on the other hand just did nothing but kick ass for like 400 years straight.
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>>172796637
You can't tell a Turk that. They HATE Ataturk and love Erdogan. They despise secularism and wish for a caliphate.
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>>172796802
>I'd love to argue with you but you're an Am*rican who's probably illiterate/never read a book.
I'm not even the guy you replied to, Yanks don't know who Atatürk was, but he's right, for the wrong reasons. Turkey is regressing from it's Quasi-western regional superpower status to yet another middle eastern shithole because of populist fanatical rhetoric from Islamists.
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>>172796638

It's actually the opposite, most Albanians used to be Catholic but are now Muslim after conversion, Catholicism was not recognized nor protected within the Turkish Empire. There are still more sheer Catholics though as it used to have a really strong tradition in the mountainous north where it was hard to convert and subdue them.
>>
anyone else like to play their respective countries patriotic/national music when crushing scum?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gw7QSlQbSE
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>>172793509
But they made you in to muslims(most of you). That sounds like ruining to me. Fuck, it sounds like communism actually helped you as it suppressed islam.
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>it's a balkan infighting episode
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>>172796808
>Except they had like 1 good sultan and promptly went to shit.
There are 2 Seljuks
First Seljuks went to shit after Malik Shah. Before than that Seljuks pretty much saved the islamic world from Persians and shias.
Second Seljuks (also known as Rum) are responsible for triggering crusades. they removed the byzantine and crusader invader scum from premises.
>>172796942
I could easily refure this but I don't care what low iq westerners say. Your kind is very dumb.
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>>172797126

Lel, literally the only good thing to come out of communism was the death of religion in the country.
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>>172795540
>I see nothing wrong with that

Nice meme
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>>172797094
>Bildschirmfoto
>anyone else like to play their respective countries patriotic/national music
>Turkish Patriotic Music
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>>172796994
Why did they give up the faith so easily? I understand in Bosnia it was some Bogolimist clusterfuck but as far as I know Albania was spared any heresy.
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I think the Turks were pretty cool guys.

They lived the /gsg/ dream and are still making Balkanshits and stormfags mad to this day. What's not to love?
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>>172797317
>as far as I know Albania was spared any heresy.
That heresy was called Catholicism
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>>172797308

but I'm Christan Otto anon, so it's good.
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>>172796896
>They despise secularism and wish for a caliphate.
Only the brown ones. The white ones love Atatürk. See pic related, from the "coup", a bunch of subhuman roaches beating a secular soldier up for refusing to pray with them.
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>>172797094
No.

But I do like listening to Burzum when I'm playing Pagans.
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>>172797554
>The white ones
13% of the population. So good luck remaining relevant senpai.
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>>172797317

The church administration in the country was poor to begin with, it lacked any sort of legitimate authority afaik. Even when Albanians first appeared in history books they were described as half-Christians. Lastly, a huge amount of Albanians left in exodus when the country was conquered, you have nearly 500k Christian Albanians in Italy today that are descendants of 14th and 15th century Albanians.
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>>172797427
>I think the Turks were pretty cool guys.
This
we have been kicking christian white ass since 1071
>>172797554
Only an ameriretard could post this
kys subhuman
>>172797094
that's weak
try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6eFaghBgCs
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>>172797623
>13% of the population
Which would that be?
>>
>>172797683
You're America's bitch right now, Turk. Who are you kicking white ass, again?
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>>172797683
also more songs when you play as Ottomans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvGvqeN8J9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfQoFRlUM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUkxVOFRoNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U81rd7MNcNU
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>>172791727
I'm not saying Germans are equivalent to huns, I'm saying they have some hunnic ancestors.
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>>172797448
>Calling the church based on a line of leadership set forth by Christ himself heresy

Are you protty or orthodox? I won't be able to take you seriously if its the former.
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>>172797751
Read again.
>>
I have 7/13 provinces of Ireland right now in CK2, how many do i need before i can form the Kingdom?
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>>172797771
Are you implying America is white?
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>>172797867
Who the fuck is "they" nerd?
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>>172797980
Germans
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>>172797912
You need more than half so exactly 7.
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>>172797946
All those in power are.
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>>172797909
No, I want you to tell me who those 13% are?
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>>172797995
>>172797995
>>172797995
>>172797995
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>>172798076
>>172797912

A ruler requires 2 duchy titles, plus at least 51% (7) of the 13 de jure counties to create Ireland. In addition, a significant amount of gold and piety is required to create Ireland.
Creating Ireland grants the creator 400 prestige.
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>>172791723
thx m8
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>>172798087
Jews are not white.
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>>172798035
Well then you're a lost cause if you're implying ALL Germans have hunnic ancestors. Are you perhaps stupid?
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>>172798269
Says the Turk.
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>>172798270
The conversation is about the german portraits in CK2. Not about the ethnicity of "all germans." Some "germans" are just 100% turk.
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>>172798446
I'm a Britbong. I just acknowledge that Turkey is based as fuck.
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>>172798659
More like Paki.
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>>172798756
Northern Irish more specifically.

Missed the mark just a tad.
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>>172798989
>Irish
>White
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>>172798989
So just a depigmented Paki.
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Neat
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>>172799092
>>172799059
What kind of idiot would want to be white?
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>>172799278
It was pretty prestigious before they self destructed.
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>>172791723
my game always just as 2-3 countries wit one provice wen i start tis mod
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