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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

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>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ (embed) (embed) (embed)
>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu (embed) (embed) (embed)

>[NieR: Automata Mining and Moddin Steam Group]
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nierMnM

>Nier Automata Lossless OST + Bonus HACKING TRACKS Disc

>PASSWORD=hikaru
https://mega.nz/#F!xpND2ZQI!SGnaDUc7MW5VDCJ4B9q4xA
https://mega.nz/#F!ppsjEICJ!SH2WwEAxnsQd99rZfN6u8Q

>English track list
http://vgmdb.net/album/65091
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9S is a cuntboy
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He doesn't speak anymore. Is he okay?
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>>172655198
>no thread number
Truly we are lost in this forboding landscape.
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Stop dying to a moose anon.
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>>172655401
You stole from him and beat him up, do you really think he'll talk to you anymore.
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>>172655431
>No link to previous thread

OP, YOU DUMBASS
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2B and 9S are love!
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>>172655603
>see all the dead corpses Near Tower
>wonder what the fuck caused it all
>see a white moose
>instantly oneshots me cause my camera chose the 1-2 frame moment it takes for it to swing to get stuck behind a blade of grass
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>>172655652
Truly we are without chart or rudder.
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>no perma wet mode in debug mode
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>>172655605
All he have to do is give me his belonging and no one have to get hurt.
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>>172655431
>>172655652
>>172655923
I'm s-sorry it's the first general I ever made
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>>172655736
>doing a fetch quest early in A but after engels battle
>going to the first map marker, bodies not that far away
>wonder how they ended up there, nothing but boars around, quest enemies still a bit away
>get oneshot by a boar from the side of a screen
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>>172655736
Is white moose special? Extra loot?
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>>172655923
androids don't have genitals
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>several days have passed since finishing the game
>still empty
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Let us, and the next OP, remember that this is the general #46
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>>172656203
White animals have high attack/defense for their level compared to their normal counterparts, give me EXP, and have a chance of dropping white meat which sells for around 22.5k.
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>>172622350
>>172622543
What about AMD A8-5500 APU with 3.2 Ghz and 8GB RAM?
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>>172656308
Do another run. I did, and it's been great.
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>>172656302
Someday they will. Also come comiket i hear there's some goodin's in store.
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Trying to get the "Not that I mind" achievement on Steam.

Tried blowing my pants off with self-destruct and waiting an hour - nothing.
Tried using the Dress Module and waiting an hour - nothing.
Tried blowing my pants off with self-destruct while NFCS is down and waiting an hour - nothing.

What am I missing? Has anyone gotten this achievement on Steam?

Right now I'm trying pantless 9S in route B.
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>>172655603
>>172655736
Sure it's a moose?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_stag#Myth_and_legend
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>>172656085
It's ok cutie
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>>172656578
Yep. White moose and White boar.
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>>172655736
I have never seen a white moose in 60 hours of game
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>>172656569
>Has anyone gotten this achievement on Steam?
99% of users has that achievement anon
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>>172656578
That body was at the starting area near a brown moose.
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>>172656489
yeah, planning on it, there's some videos I want to make like bare fists Adam at the minimum level possible

just been 100%ing the first save, have some unit data and abandoned dark spooky factory to go but it's scary there
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What did he mean by this?
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>>172656569
Play as pantless 9s for an hour
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>the percentage of people who have completed the first mission keeps going up daily
>the ratio of people who have completed both A and B endings keeps going up
>the ratio of people who completed both B and C/D endings keeps going up
>the ratio of people who have completed both C/D and E endings keeps going up
It's not like I'm looking at these charts every day or anything but I think there's still hope left for the Steam userbase.
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>>172656871
;-;7
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/ndg/ review my fanfic.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/10490349/chapters/23141313
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>>172656871
He's a crazy red eye
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>>172657007
It's a shame that I can't join them. My computer's too weak to run it at even the minimum settings.
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>>172656795
Well its a thing.
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>wake up
>see this
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>>172656871
He see's 2B in android heaven.
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>>172657412
Business as usual then.
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>>172657461
You mean another projection of 2B made by the machine network to comfort him in his hazy, dying moments.
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>>172657174
>fanfic

No thanks
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>>172656993
Did that three times already. It's not working.
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>>172657640
Buy it then
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>>172657412
DevPopo faces look weird in this game for some reason. Especially compared to perfection that's 2B and A2.
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>>172657573
the network isn't particularly clever just strong
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>tfw my gpu fucking exploded shortly after I got ending E and was doing cleanup
>new computer only arrives in one week
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>>172657412
>tfw wanting to have a boner but can't because Androids are dickless
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>>172657174
Read it this morning. Keep going.

>>172657573
Don't ruin the moment N2.
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>>172657741
>isn't particularly clever
Anon, the entirety of Route C is the network sadistically torturing Pascal and 9S.
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>>172657772
>sacrifice your PC to save a random person
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>>172657823
Thanks anon.
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>>172657625
>Androids weren't meant for eating but they were still however able to, though they were also given the means to rid themselves of its bioproducts.
>As a YoRHa their internals were top of the line and 9S knew it wouldn't be much longer after having given 2B that steak for his own present to be given.
You were right to fear...
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>>172657923
Anon truly got the real Ending E
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These things are seriously freaking me the fuck out.
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>>172658012
You're right, it's like we've gone back to before 2000 with those janky ass pipes.
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>>172657991

Not really fearful as much as knowing there's never been a good fanfic ever made.

The only entertaining ones are the extremely awful ones written by people who have actual non-buzzword autism.
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>>172656871
She's in the sword.
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>>172657412
I never sleep well.
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>>172657947
No problem. Make sure to make 9S a total cry baby. He needs to let it all out.
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>>172657696
About 75% of the dev time AND budget was spent on 2B's design and ass. It's natural some side character models suffer for it.
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>>172659004
Money and time well spent
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what happens if you talk to 9S before the assault in route C?
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>>172657174
I read it earlier, pretty good so far and the post-Ending E story is interesting to explore. I don't know which author you are, but thankfully there are no words in [brackets]. It was starting to get annoying in Axiom's other fanfic.
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>>172659264
You have sex.
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>>172655198
How do I get to the Abanonded Factory Memo using Chapter Select? I can't seem to get to the room, I know it's in the same room as the Engine Blade, but leaving the Chapter and selecting the Chapter you can get there in ends the side quest.
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>>172656729
fuck
I met one and thought it was some kind of rendering bug
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>>172659509
Nope.
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>>172659264
That would actually unironically with no hyperbole lead to ending O, which makes me think it's the actual canon ending.
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>>172659620
hah, as I was typing that post, loading screen cleared and white moose appeared near save point
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>>172657174
This had better be really lewd anon.
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>>172659835
Please see
>>172657949
So "very".
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WHY

WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY
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>500 years in the future, Emil decides he's had enough of this world, phases out of the dimension, and enters a stable relationship with the Lady of Pain
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>>172660195
planescapefags get out
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>inside every Machine is an Emil
>Aliens created Machines to fight humans
>Emil was created to fight Machines
>???????
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HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THE ABANDONED FACTORY MEMO? YOU CAN'T GO DOWN THE LIFT IN THE THREE CHAPTERS IT HAS THE SIDE QUEST ACTIVE IN
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>>172660130
Is that a bug on the PS4 version? The blindfold was sticking straight out for me on PS4, but on PC it has proper cloth physics.
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hmm
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Do you name your character at the start of Nier 2?

If so, is it okay if I name the main character after my 64 year old mother?
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>>172661046
Wait it's not supposed to be like that? I thought it was wood or something. Fucking hell
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>>172660971
The memo is just an archive entry, not a quest. The "quest markers" you see in the Factory are the two access points inside the Factory.
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>>172661151

No to both
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Replaying this game would be so sad. All those dead parts walking.
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>>172661302
Kek. See >>172661127, it's supposed to move like cloth, but I guess they fucked something up on PS4.
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>>172661309
So I can just chapter select to anywhere, go and get it, then go back to chapter 3 and hand them in to Pascal for the "Old World information" quest?
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>>172661348
Phew.
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>>172659835
Sorry no :(

I was gonna write in 9S jacking off with 2B's hand but Axiom wouldn't let me
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>it's another "Nobody survives" episode
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>>172655603
At this point I'm sure humanity was wiped out by moose
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>>172661632
>another victory for YoRHa!
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>>172661424
Yes. Although that quest doesn't require you to get that item. Picking up one specific old world info completed it right on the spot. You still get 1000g per any other data you turn in to Pascal though.
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>>172661632
truly the pinnacle of story telling
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>>172661972
It's the only side quest I don't have completed and I've handed in 15 or so bits of old world information, out of 28. You need them all.
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Starting to think that the horseshoe crab's not in my game files
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>>172662085
Nah you don't. You'll know exactly which item you need to complete the quest once you pick it up. On my first playthru I had completed like 14 of them before picking that one up and on my second playthru I had completed 2 or 3 before picking that up.
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>89% Android
>100% Machine
>1 active quest
Now I kinda wish I didn't skip those deserting sons of bitches in Pascal's Village since they will cuck me from 100%

I just didn't want to help deserters and remember that someone said how pissed off the quest made them
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>>172662247
You think you got problems? I was trying to get the Machine Lifeform Head for fucking ages and all I kept getting was BREAM MACHINES
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>>172662085
>You need them all.
False
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>>172661632
Honestly, I think shit like Undertale ruined games for me at large. Because when it comes to games, I like characters. I like setting things up for a good end. I like preventing disasters and digging a happy ending out through hard work.

Japanese stuff is like... "There's no point and everyone's going to fucking die and everyone is fucked." Nihilism is antithetical to me.
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>>172662373
My nigga I got 3 at this point
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>>172662384
>>172662321
Huh, weird, apparently you just need the one on Nuclear weapons. My bad I guess.
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>>172662472
Well I'd be glad to trade one of yours in exchange for like my 50 bream machines
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>>172661632
But tons of people survived. Resistance people survived, main characters survived, pods got sentience and survived, machines just fucked off to space. Only YoRHa bunker got truly fucked.
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I haven't played the game in days, but I keep dreaming about it. Must've overdone it

>be 2B walking into some room, exploring
>6O is with me
>trip over something, chuckle and turn to 6O, about to share the humor of tripping
>there are now dozens of 6Os just staring at me with a weird glint in their eyes, not responding
>they're not my friend, they're just studying how to become more humanlike, possibly jealous
It was creepy.
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>>172663182
DLC confirmed.
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How do I get up to that door as this flying guy
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>>172662803
>main characters survived
Boy do I have some news for you anon....
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Replaying the game and actually noticing the striking difference in behaviour of 21O when 2B is around and when 9S is alone or gets a personal e-mail is a mix of cuteness and really sad feels.
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>>172663552
Why is this even a debate, it's obvious they survived in ending E.
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>>172663589
Can you imagine though.

Talking to your son while his kill switch is standing next to him?
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>>172663627
>hur dur all the ded protags get resurrected because I beat a crappy asteroid game
Ending E makes no fucking sense and you know it. Stop living in denial.
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What's the first nier's dlc about? Should I get it before starting the game?
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>>172663589
Did you notice how during route B shotaboy actually hears 6O's calls and never needs to be informed about them by bootyqueen but during route A bootyqueen doesn't hear 21O's calls and has to be told about them by shotaboy? Talking about main story-relevant calls only.
Totally not maintaining a hack into toobses consciousness 24/7, nooooo
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>>172662467
Nier: Automata is the opposite of nihilism though.
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>>172663930
It's a series of battle arenas wherein you play as young papa Nier (really just an excuse to use Brother Nier's model) interspersed with lore about the world.
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>>172663929

How does it not make sense?

Why this low quality bait?
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>>172661631
Do it anyway.
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Wait, no, wait, you can take off 9S's shorts? Wat
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>>172662803
>Only YoRHa bunker got truly fucked.
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>>172663929
>Completely disregard a portion of an author's work for subjective reasons
>Call others out for denial
You're welcome to disregard E because you didn't like, but at least don't act like a dumb cunt about it.
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>>172664192
And what passes for A2's shirt, yes.
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>>172663973
Well he IS in charge of her maintenance
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>>172664163
Then what is the point of dying for any YoRHa unit at all when their pods can just rebuild them on a whim?
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>>172664058
Alright thanks
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>>172664463
They didn't rebuild them, they just carried their bodies away from the tower.
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>>172664225
>yfw you realise that sidequest foreshadows Route C entirely
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>>172664360
Christ, I've missed so much.
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>>172663929
stay retarded
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>>172664463
that's cuz their black boxes were destroyed but the pods recovered their memories. Pods aren't supposed to do that but 042 and 153 developed emotion and attachment to 9s and 2b
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>>172663182
>just got game
>finally decide i do need SOME sleep after 38 hours straight
>dream about a dark room with a single table
>042 bro is telling me to take a seat
>starts listing off all the shit i did in A
>asks me how i felt about that after every question and writes something down
>tells me he's reached a decision
>i'm not trying hard enough
>theres a deep combat system in place and i just mash buttons
>i need to experiment and explore my options
>leaves me with a vision of him throwing me into combat my boner at the ready
>you know what to do!
>find out about pod throw the very next day when i discover the chest in flooded city is a thing
Taro is my spirit guide.
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what's the point of all these chests i can't open in the tutorial area? am I missing something or do I come back here later
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>>172664776
So you are saying the pods are trying to bury the androids' bodies rather than repairing/rebuilding them?
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>>172665192
tell us if you dream about DLC
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>>172665218
Route B, now get out.
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>>172664364
>guy who knows too much in charge of the maintenance of his kill switch

fucking genius
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>>172665230
The method and ultimate conclusion is a bit ambiguous but they do survive.
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>>172665192
>not reaching the chest with a simple doublejump into airdash into podgrab into tatsumaki senpukyaku
you're spiritual teacher a moron
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>>172663973

Orrrr maybe they just wanted to leave 9S content in the 9S route.
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>>172665192
I like that
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>>172664915
>I believe that E was essentially the happy ending. This is the first time I've taken on this kind of challenge.
Challenge? It's fucking simple, just stop killing absolutely everyone, you fucking faggot.
I bet he will kill 2B, 9S and A2 in DLC anyway because fuck everyone.
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>>172665338
9S is WOKE
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>>172665425
I just made it with double jump, dash, podthrow.
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>free me from my yoke of iron
What the fuck this was about?
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>>172665752

But he's not, though. He's shellshocked by revelation after revelation. He's, like, the exact opposite of woke. The only characters that are woke are N2 and A2.
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>>172665635
He's not in control of narrative after ending E, players collectively took this right from his hands.
He may put some suffering on them in prequel DLCs though.
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>100th time in a row
>Emil still is near the desert camp
>All I want is to enjoy route A with fists and booty
>this fucker wont give the fists
I'm gonna rape him later and feel good about it.
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>>172665860
I'm guessing it's commentary on the bots obtaining consciousness instead of being mindless heaps of metal.
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>>172666053
Why are you still responding?
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>>172662467
Ending E was literally "you have to grasp your future with your own two hands" and "rely on others when the going gets tough", sure in 500 years shit starts all over again but nothing lasts forever.
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>>172664360
Eh? How?
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>>172666754
>sure in 500 years shit starts all over again
You can interpret Emil's Heads in a shitton of ways.
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>>172666760
The blouse bit just blows off when you berserk or self destruct just below the tits.
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>>172666965
Cool. Didn't think she had any because no self destruct
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>9S is actually the protagonist of the game
>people just make fun of him for being edgy after the foundational underpinnings of his entire world and reasons for being are ripped out from beneath him
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I feel that concept of death in this game is inconsistent.
The game starts with assault mission and one of your team mates 11B is taken down. Later you get a quest from 16D to recover her body. 16D is extremely sad about 11B's death. But why can't they just recover her memories from backup which should have been made right before the mission? 11B would lose maximum 30 minutes of memories and still be the same person.
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>>172666845
Machines whole point is they just mimic shit and are ultimately doomed to repeat their mistakes forever.
A new Network is showing the cycle is still alive and well.
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>>172666418
OK i'm on route A
I just finished the forest king quest
I saved in the resistance camp and i keep reloading.

Am I doing it right?
Is he actually going to spawn eventually?
Do i need to progress the quest further or anything?
I did talk to him about like (my house is very deep)
Is that it?
Do i need to finish lunar tear quest or anything?
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>>172667043
Waifufags really wanted a waifu game.
Instead they got a game about 9S, with 2B being in a twisted love with him for years prior to the events of a game.
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>>172667043
People like to say they'd do shit differently in "situation" if they were there.
Oh, i'd never piss myself in war!
I'd never be scarred by finding a corpse!
I'd just kick their asses in!
I'd react faster than that!
I wouldn't let him get bullied!
Etc.
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>>172667127
>Machines whole point is they just mimic shit and are ultimately doomed to repeat their mistakes forever.
Completely invalidated by N2 leaving the gay earth after understanding existential values.
We don't even know who was the new Beepy, let alone how the new network will behave to androids.
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>>172667065
She was a deserter and deserters get purged from the network
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>>172667158
You need to talk to him first
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>>172667043
That's also why the game is so good. You expect something and then have to completely reconcile what you expected and what actually happened and the more you keep thinking the better the game becomes.
Feelsfags get lotsa flak for their reaction to this game, but I don't think they understand half of what they should be emotional about.
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>>172667158
Spawn in desert, talk and waste all options with him, run to Near Factory, teleport to resistance camp, check map, if he's not there teleport to desert, check map, if he's not near resistance camp, run to him, exhaust all options, run to near factory, repeat forever.

Just pray he's singing the version of the song you need for him to have the correct store.
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>>172667213
Playing 2B is more enjoyable in many ways
1 - no minigames
2 - cuhrayzee moveset YES I KNOW ABOUT HEAVY ATTACK 9S still sucks, less fun to play
3 - butt

9 S is a good character and shit but after they switched away from 2B the game wasnt as good.
The story got better but the fun and but are gone.
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>>172664928
Don't forget A2.
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>>172667391
N2 didn't take all of the robots off earth. Merely gave the ark her knowledge and sent them off being sudokuing and leaving the remnants behind to fend for themselves. Which they then decided to restart the network and shit starts all over because their original fucking program was to commit war against the androids for the networks benefit.
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>>172667493
Do you mean the "Do you know where i live? My house is very very deep etc"

Do you mean this dialogue or what?
I even sold and bought some shit from him for a good measure.
Still desert camp
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>>172667158
Yes, that's it. Just keep reloading, you are pretty much at the exact point I did it.
I met and talked to him a couple times since it was my first playthrough and I didn't finish the Lunar Tears quest, that one definitely doesn't matter.
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>>172667607
That's not really his fault, though; it's the fact that you're playing the same section of the game again almost verbatim.
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>>172667607
>3 - butt
* skirt and graceful movement
4 - cute
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>>172667607
Combat with 2B is really overrated. It's a primitive spamfest and if you're doing anything but spamming light attacks you're not playing optimally. Her ground executions don't properly trigger on a lot of mobs which makes them awkward. A2 is a direct improvement and far more technical character thanks to taunts and rage mode, but between 2B and 9S i will prefer 9S with all the hilarious shit he has going for him, from 30k spear throw crits and up to playing in MGS by hijacking robots and moving up the chain of power.
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>>172667607
>cuhrayzee
Somebody doesn't know about 9S' infinite or double comboes or why his moves lend themselves to crit builds or his over the top dps or even his pause comboes.
Just keep mashing that square button forever and calling it fun!
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>>172667481
Makes sense.
But it makes 16D really stupid. She didn't figure it out after they restored 9S from backup, but not 11B.
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>>172667774
That's like, your interpretation of a source open to a shitload of interpretations, anon.
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>that A2 quest in pascal's village where you help build them a slide for kids to play with
what are these feels
I know they're all going to die, but this still feels good
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>>172668193
The canon ending of the sidequest is where toobs erases her memories, duh.
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>>172668193
>[classified]
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>A2's belly
FULLY
ERECT
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>>172668278
The slide is there if you go back to A or B in chapter select
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>>172668278
big sis best sis
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>>172668212
You're just letting hope and want cloud your judgement.
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Does someone have that pic of n2 from the artbook?
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>>172668463
And you're channelling your edgelord.
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>>172663786
>son
What did I miss?
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>>172668278
>started doing all the side-quests there
>didn't realize just picking up Pascal's shit fucks everything up
>come back to a big ol' blood orgy and see my quest givers being eaten alive

okay
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>>172668584
you can't spell "headcanon" without "anon"
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>>172668373
This
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>>172668463
>>172668556
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I need pictures

pictures of 2B's butt
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>>172668373
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>>172668556
I'm channeling my logic. Taro ALWAYS has canon endings lead to tragedy. Always. It makes sense he left shit in that tells us ultimately it all goes back to being shit just like he did with literally every single one of his games. Guaranteed he'll come out with supplementary material that unequivocally backs it.
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>>172668804
Pixiv -> 2B
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>>172668584

Nothing, but the other poster is right in that 21O is quite gentle with 9S when 2B isn't around which could be interpreted as conflicted feelings since it doesn't appear that operators get their memories wiped and would know 2B's proper designation and history with 9S.
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>>172668373
A2 is not for lewding!
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>>172668373
>you will never rest your head on A2 tummy

becoming a god doesn't sound half bad
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>>172668831
>A2's hips
>A2's thighs
>A2's belly
>A2 in entirety
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>>172668832
>>172664915
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>>172668832
Taro plays darts and picks one joke ending to write a plot around.
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>>172668885
ingame pics m8

I have a friend who does not believe that toobie's butt is out of this world
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>>172668831
Reeeeee her boobs are too big
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I wouldn't mind at all if there was DLC and it was just the shitty play but done correctly instead of being a shitty play.
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Does ReShade not work with FAR?
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>>172669142
>Nier: Odyssey comes out
>scene of the ark floating through space with the subtitles saying its 52,376
>8 minutes of 9S' just screaming into space
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>>172669193
Everytime.
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>>172669187
He is correct.
I personally abandoned all attempts to draw 2Butt, i'm just not good enough to capture this perfection
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>>172669324
9S calmed down after ending D.
He will be busy talking about philosophy and human culture with Adam while N2 peeks at them.
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>>172669193
The Pods weren't perfect in their reconstructive efforts despite their best intentions.
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How do I actually take a picture for the photo quest? There's a fucking sandstorm in the desert and I can't get there
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>>172669698
>Adam become as excited as Eve does during talks
>Eve constantly fluctuates between wildly fidgeting in place or napping cause brother said they could play "soon"
>N2 devolves to constantly writing Yaoi fanfics around their daily lives as she observes for "providence"
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>>172669287
Wasn't the whole play basically just Anemone's visual novel thing?
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>>172669698
>He will be busy talking about philosophy and human culture with Adam while N2 peeks at them.
>implying stay isnt the canon choice
>implying he would ever leave without 2Butt
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>>172669921
Go to the right around it
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What are gonna do the Android Illuminati now with YoRHA killed?
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>>172669968
>9S gets over 2B's death after a lot of time and eventually taps that Terminal ass instead
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>>172670003
Thansk anon
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>>172669698
>picking leave
Stay is the true D ending, chosing "i will go" would make E pointles because the Pod would rebuild an empty 9S
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>>172669978
Or rather unvisual novel I should have said. Which would just make it a novel.
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>>172669968
>>Eve constantly fluctuates between wildly fidgeting in place or napping cause brother said they could play "soon"
i hope they actually did get to play, even just once
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>>172670058
Make better sexbots. Thats always been their plan.
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>>172670273
153 was backing up all 9S data up to his final decision, in the end what he does is irrelevant. Staying is just choosing 2B over N2.
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>>172670273
Play ending D again, anon. What does Pod 153 say between the cutscene and the novel?
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>>172670313
They did. Notice how everytime one of those scenes happens a calamity occurs shortly after.
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DAMN THAT WAS ANNOYING
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>>172670507
Jesus
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>>172670654
Its the little things.
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Isn't the Machine Network the remains of the Watchers? Considering the angelic text and Eve bersek tatoo
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So I put the Automata OST to bed, fell asleep and when I woke up my pillow was all wet. Goddamnit.
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>>172657174
Tbqh, the personality of the characters in this is pretty off from the game, pod 042 especially. I don't think its right to say 2B and 9S loved each other either, especially not 2B, but maybe I'm expecting too much from this. I have a lot of other autistic nitpicks like calling a Goliath "Engels" when its assumed no android ever knew of their names, but that's all whatever.
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I love 2B! I love her!
She's way better than A2 and isn't dirty!
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>>172671083
I don't think you played the whole game
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That little thing about 9S seeing the names of the major machine lifeforms whereas they appear as Angelic to 2B and A2.
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>>172671217
A2 is the pure one.
Who knows what thoughts 2B hides.
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quick vote for nier in this poll we need to beat the nintendo guys!

http://www.strawpoll.me/12646774
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>>172671238
Explain
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>>172671338
Now you're just false flagging after you tried to say the poll was posted here earlier and that's why NieR was winning.
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>>172670992
Everything magic runs off Angelic. Even the androids and pods.
Look at those circles surrounding your weapons or the pods when firing programs.
Its just the programming language of the universe.
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>>172670992
No one really seems to know.
The Watchers haven't really been relevant anywhere from outside of Drakengard. It makes me wonder though.

After Drakengard E ending, I wonder what befell of Drakengard's world?
The implication that the Watchers are in the Nier world now is something to think about.
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just finished the game

good god, taro just fucked my heart's asshole inside-out; at least with ending E he had the courtesy to leave a hundred on the nightstand

what DLC do you think we'll get? pearl harbor descent, maybe? tangential pre-route-A story with toobs and nines?
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>>172671217
Go away, 9S.
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>>172671795
>DLC
We can only dream
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>>172671795

Hopefully backstory on A2, I felt she was kind of neglected storywise.
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>>172671338
kys nintendrone
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>>172671217
Rude
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>>172671795
It'll be the story of Auguste and Friedrich and how they were the robots from the start of route B
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Anyone got the "This Cannot Continue" and "Life Is Hard" reaction images?
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>>172671795
>What DLC will we get?
Whatever it is, prepare your heartpussy.
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>>172671338
>trying this hard
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>>172672075
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>>172672075
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So a lot of machines are named after philosophers, do you think there's anything more to it other than it just being machines taking names from human history like how Pascal (and Adam imagining he read something other than the Bible) has an interest in philosophy books?
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>>172672256
>>172672315

Thank you anon.
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>>172671795
If there's story DLC, it's so obviously going to be about A2. She's so underused and yet she's marketed as one of the main character (which she obviously is, but...)
Have you seen the promo pic where 2B and 9S face her in the area where you fight Marx in the prologue? Combine that with the fact that later on you get a side quest where you trail A2's actions in the Factory. Doesn't that scream CUT CONTENT to you?

Even if it isn't, there's so much room to make her versions of the chapters we have already seen.
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>>172672415
Well Jean-Paul and Simone are direct kicks to the jibblies towards their respective namesakes.
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>>172672415
Well ace, considering a main theme of the game is the point of life, you just may be onto something
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Maybe I missed something integral, but do we find out why the machines are imitating humans in the first place?

At first I thought the big tweeeest was going to be that the machines have gestalts stuffed inside them or some shit, but obviously that didn't pan out.
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>>172672570
Oh and Engels and Marx are both goliaths and Engels learns something from being cut off from compatriots.
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>>172672775
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Machine+Research+Report
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>>172671795
>3 elevators
>3 main characters
I smell 3 prequel DLC, one for each character.
For 2B make it about some of her first missions, maybe the very first mission with 9S.
For 9S, explain Cruel Oath and "free me from my yoke of iron".
For A2 even direct adaptation of stage play will do wonders.
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>>172672570
>>172672603
Some are clear references but others like Grun seem to be a bit of a stretch if there's any connection at all.
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>>172672528
The YoRHa stage play is already about her. That's all she needs.
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>>172672775
Replay the final chapter.
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What's the track that plays during the Become As Gods segment? Sounds like the machines are chanting 'Be As Gods' in the background.

>>172672528
I want to know why she ganked the King. I know we're supposed to infer that she's spent the last however long shredding machines for no reason, but I feel like there's some backstory we're missing out on there. That and an adaptation of the stage play. It feels like its an integral part of the story, but it's hamstrung by it really only being known by the more devoted fans.
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>>172672775
They enter a back door in the moon base archive and find all the data on humans.

They kind of go nuts after that.
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>>172673006
"Birth of a Wish" is the name
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>>172671338
>30 votes for ME:A
How must it feel to be this whipped by a series.
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>>172672415
>>172672775
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>>172672893
I honestly felt shit was cut or just plain ignored because of time/budget constraints.
Imagine if EVERY boss was like Simone and drew influences and mechanics from their namesakes. Now imagine how much time and money that would take.
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>>172673147
Is there not an individual mix of that version?
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>>172673218
>Now imagine how much time and money that would take.

Bear in mind, this is Taro with an actual budget worth a damn. That we got the game at all is a miracle worthy of belief in at least one higher power.
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>>172673147
The OST doesn't come with the chant, but the rip in the pastebin has that version
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>>172671083
I'm basing the story off of them directly after Ending E.

This is past the point where the Pods begin developing emotions.

Please be more specific with how the other characters feel off (we never see them seriously react to trauma in game besides screaming and crying so I've no clue how else to pass it off).
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>>172673578
>worth a damn
No SE purposefully gave him a shoestring budget. Thats why there was shit all for advertisement and reuse of a lot of assets.
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>>172673218
Could be that Taro doesn't actually know much about philosophy and just want some kind of consistent leitmotif like how Japan will use chess analogies despite not knowing how chess is even played.
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>though That I finished the jean-paul quest
>But I didn't
>have to redo everything
Fuuuuuuck
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>Nine "Tyrannical to the Mechanical" S
>Nine "Committing crime on the production line" S
>Nine "Bolts and Nuts? I'll spill their guts" S
>Nine "Murder Machine" S
>Nine "See a gadget, get the hatchet" S
>Nine "City-wide Flood of Mechanical Blood" S
>Nine "Scanning for victims" S
>Nine "Tin Can Hit Man" S
>Nine "If they're mechanic I'll make them panic" S
>Nine "Turning gears, they get my spears" S
>Nine "Automation decimation" S
>Nine "Turn the Amusement Park into a Graveyard" S
>Nine "Spill the bucket of bolts" S
>Nine "Throw the toaster in the tub" S
>Nine "If you're a contraption I'll be smashin'" S
>Nine "Motor Oil is good for the soil" S
>Nine "Reverse engineering" S
>Nine "Destruction Derby" S
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>>172673667
Even after developing emotions, pod 042 doesn't speak in contractions, and still uses that robotic speech, which you use in some parts, but others you have him speaking casually. Maybe inconsistency in writing then? And the most emotion we get out of A2 in the game is "You're not bad", so I think the level of emotion you give her is a bit unwarranted. That's more of a nitpick, but I think there is some inconsistency in the characters personalities within the fanfic itself, between chapters.
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>>172674324
>"Tin Can Hit Man"
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>>172674324
>Nine "Stopping all actions of Asimov's contraptions" S
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>>172674324
>Committing crime on the production line"
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>>172674324
Nine "If you're a bot, you're getting shot" S
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this is one of the worst generals on the board. congrats
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>>172675280
There are always ksg, sc2, d2g and others, so no problem.
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>>172675280
sc2, d2g, feg, p4g, ps4g
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>>172675280
By what standards lol
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>>172674324
>>Nine "Murder Machine" S
Nice.
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>>172675391
>>172675449
how are those worse
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>>172675502
this thread is literally /v/ incarnate
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>>172675663
ok
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>>172675663
(You)
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>How do I know that enjoying life is not a delusion? How do I know that in hating death we are not like people who got lost in early childhood and do not know the way home? Lady Li was the child of a border guard in Ai. When first captured by the state of Jin, she wept so much her clothes were soaked. But after she entered the palace, shared the king's bed, and dined on the finest meats, she regretted her tears. How do I know that the dead do not regret their previous longing for life? One who dreams of drinking wine may in the morning weep; one who dreams weeping may in the morning go out to hunt. During our dreams we do not know we are dreaming. We may even dream of interpreting a dream. Only on waking do we know it was a dream. Only after the great awakening will we realize that this is the great dream. And yet fools think they are awake, presuming to know that they are rulers or herdsmen. How dense! You and Confucius are both dreaming, and I who say you are a dream am also a dream. Such is my tale. It will probably be called preposterous, but after ten thousand generations there may be a great sage who will be able to explain it, a trivial interval equivalent to the passage from morning to night.
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>>172675663
Let's be serious here, it's better to be a /v/ incarnate than starcraft general.
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>>172675712
>>172675767
>>172675772
proving my point
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>>172675707
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>>172675863
This is a general for people discussing a video game.
People on this thread are discussing the video game and the story. If you're not here to do the same then leave
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>>172675974
im allowed to do what i want, /v/eddit
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>>172675280
This isn't /rsg/, /xivg/, /dsg/, /lolg/, /hsg/, /palg/, /bbg/, /ffg/, /fhg/, /hotsg/, /owg/, /skg/, /utg/, /parag/, /d2g, /nsunsg/, /revog/, /sthg/, /smgen/, /acg/, /rs07g/, /dlg/, /ink/, /maag/, /lisg/, /nintyg/, /srg/, /mffg/, or /csog/.
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>>172672891
>>172672528
>>172672085
>>172671795
>For instance, when asked if Nier Automata will ever get any meaty DLC content, Taro said that no DLC of that sort is planned. He added that fans shouldn’t anticipate The Witcher 3-style DLC content because Automata has no budget or manpower for that sort of DLC.
Daily reminder thinking we'll get DLC is a delusion.
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>Responding to obvious b8
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>>172675663
Agreed. We need more tripfags and "I LOVE 2B waifufaggot posts".
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>>172674324
9 "If they threaten your wife, end their life" S
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>>172675923
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>>172676190
when did i say that
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>Been trying for literally 2 hours and no Machine Lifeform Head is coming up
Wherever I go, I must also fish
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>>172676268
Probably when you said that a general that's actively discussing it's game is a bad general.
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>>172671217
A2 is for fixing up and loving tenderly
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>>172676186
>>172676275
who are you morons quoting. lurk for at least 4 years before posting
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>>172674324
>Nine "City-wide Flood of Mechanical Blood" S
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>>172676243
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So I'm on my second playthrough after E'ing my save data. Should I do most of the main quest and then do sidequests after so I actually have something to do?
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>>172676375
all im saying is that this thread reeks of /v/eddit, and boy, it does
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI0_KRlUhwI
Does this remind you of anything?
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>>172674324
>Nine "Reverse engineering" S
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I finished A and going for B at the moment, what chips should I be using? Right now I have a bit of everything, depending on which ones I had those black diamond ones for

Is the hacking one that does something with levels any good? What does it even do?
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>>172676582
Can you give some examples? We're sorry we're not a glorified circlejerking chatroom.
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>>172676678

Depends entirely on your playstyle. Honestly I thought the hacking shit was pretty underwhelming though, I ended up with a bunch of mobility and damage stuff.
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>>172676713
Don't respond to him. If he's not here to discuss the game then just ignore him.
>>172676678
First the black diamond means the chip has the smallest size it can, which you want to have. Higher levels means you can remote control higher levelled enemies. But you have to hack them before they see you in order to remote control. But i mostly just use hacking to destroy enemies. I'd say stick to chips for hacking damage, melee damage and movement speed
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>>172675280
From my knowledges it is one of the best.
You have actually no idea what a shitty general looks like.
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>>172676713

Stop replying to him.
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>>172676713
can you stop
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>>172676713
>>172676937
Jesus christ you autists stop falling for the bait
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Any way to hide the fishing chair?
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>>172677680
Don't think so.
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>>172677680
Not that I can find.
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>strawpolls cancer on /v/
Why do I keep coming back to that shithole?
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>>172677834
>>172677756
Damn you Yoko Taro
I just want to watch the ass
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>>172677979
Suffer.
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>>172676556
Cute.
Translation pls
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>>172678070
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>>172678446
What is happening?
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>>172678572
Popola and Devola tried to extract his boyseed again during "maintenance"
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>>172678572
DevPop stole "something" of his during "maintenance".
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Wait a minute
Is this an undertale refference ?
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>>172680259
Do you really think THEY are going to reference your gayfurry tumblr shit?
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>>172680259
The entire game is a rip-off of Undertale, thematically
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>>172658426
Holy fuck that makes me sad
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>>172675290
This was fucking great, btw.
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>>172680384
Fuck off retard,also tumblertale is a shitty copy from mother
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finally got to the Flower boss fight in DG3
and oooooh boy this looks worse than the one in DG1
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>>172680703
Doesn't change the fact that Undertale came first, like how Spec Ops The Line came out before Nier and did everything Nier did, but better.
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>>172680703
>>172680259
>>172680381
Stop with the lazy bait
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>>172680913
The idea of someone thinking that spec ops and Nier are the same thing is so fucking outlandish it could almost be true, 9/10 holy fuck i'm mad.
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>>172675290
loved this
a shame Popula's room didnt have something interesting too
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>>172680259
fuck off lowlife trash
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>>172680885
What's the worst that could happen
Close your eyes and enjoy the music
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>>172679429
>>172679825
Oh
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>>172681046
>you start out as a stereotypical protagonist killing bad guys and feeling good about it
>the reveal is that the bad guys are the good guys and you're the fucking monster
Nice bait
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>>172668725
>Family sidequest

It's either Little brother or son, which do you think it is?
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>>172661631
Anon pls
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>>172658426
So 9S didn't know about memories being inside YoRHa swords?
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>notice N2 in the Mothership as 9S and in the Bunker before it got rekt
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>>172681465
What
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>>172681465
N2's obsession over 9S is one of the most hilarious things in the game.
Everyone wants a piece of shota i guess.
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>>172681737
N2 was stalking 9S everywhere.
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>>172681737
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>>172681895
N2 got tired of A2, so they went with best boy.
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>>172681197
>>the reveal is that the bad guys are the good guys and you're the fucking monster
That never happens.
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>>172682021
I guess the implication is that 9S was getting back-hacked as he hacked into the network?
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>>172682165
see
>>172666726
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>>172655704
I will never get tired of 2B9S fanart. Never.
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>>172671306
Got a source for this anon? Can't find one..
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>>172681925
>>172681895
>>172682123
What was up with N2, anyway? Why was she leading 9S to the Tower? To kill him? To torture him?
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>>172682021
>appears during first major revelation (aliens are long dead)
>appears during second major revelation (humans are dead)
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>>172682701
To test him and learn from him as he's the most advanced android.
Towers were specifically made for 9S. A2 was an outside factor. Even Auguste fight was meant for 9S as it's the same bucket guy from the beginning of his route. N2 even has A2's statue in the shrine to the fallen so it certainly wanted to remove her.
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>>172676556
translation would be nice
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>>172682701
It was just a game. They're fascinated with androids.
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Dammit.
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hi /ndg/
is it still cool to hate Automata or has the shitposting receded
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>>172683657

what site is this?
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>>172683657
Aside from that atrocious vram you might be fine. My computer didn't meet minimum either but it still plays the game just fine. But seriously...how on earth can anyone play videogames with so little vram?
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>>172683657
Its fucked m8. Even if you have an I3 but amazing everything else it would still run like shit.
The CPU really bottlenecks the whole thing.
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>tfw Okabe ruins Battle on the Big Bridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOysf_gyK28
Stick with Nier/Drakengard and stop shitting up Uematsu's classics
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>>172683747
It was never cool to hate Automata.
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finished ending D
was emotionally rekt again
should I go through the C and E immediately?
I can do the final credits sequence without wiping by data the second time, right?
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Does Emil have a black rasta friend?
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>>172683901
Can You Run It. Google it if you're interested.
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>>172684028
>I can do the final credits sequence without wiping by data the second time, right?
You don't have to have your save get deleted. It's left up to you.
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>>172684028
Yeah you're given the option to be a complete scumbag if you want
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Ending C feels so empty and pointless after D.
Meaningless code indeed.
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Why isn't pascal in his village in any chapter of route c? Isn't he supposed to go back and sell shit after I wiped his memory? He's not anywhere
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I liked The Witcher 3 more
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>>172684994

How the fuck are they even similar?
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>>172675290

I never went back to check, but do you get a statue for Emil in there?
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>>172676582
Is it true that you can't get the gold bots to spawn again after their quest? I need one more Powerup Part S.
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>>172684919
>he tripped the walkthrough detection
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>>172684994
oh, YOU are the dummy one!
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The way 2B friendzoned 6O always makes me laugh.
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>>172685270
>6O talks like this even though she knows everything about 2B
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>>172685041
>>172685269
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>>172684994
Witcher 3 has to be the only open world game ever made that combines a toper tier genre definining map with the worst, most korean rpg system ever made that actively punishes exploration away from the quest markers
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>>172685518
>when you set up a reaction image dont get the replies you expected and post it anyway
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TARO SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PLAY PREVIOUS GAMES IN THE SERIES

WHY DID HE LIE
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>>172685703
Because that is what he does. That is his job description.
The one time he actually didn't lie and was being quite literal is when he told us the game would have a happy ending of sorts.
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>>172685703
You don't

>>172685625
My problem with TW3 aside from it's cancerous fans is that the gameplay is trash. One of the only games I've played where putting it on the easiest difficulities makes the game more enjoyable.
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>>172684237
>Can You Run It.
This site is bs. I run the game max setting with a minimum of 40fps.
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>>172685970
>40fps

The true suffering
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>>172685884
>implying gameplay matters when you have the best most immersive rpg experience ever with the best story of all time
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>>172686394

Yes anon, gameplay does matter in a video game. Especially when it gets in the way of the only thing TW has going for it, decent middle brow genre fiction writing.
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Legna, what's a personal computer?
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>>172686394
>implying gameplay does not matter
go read a book, nigga, why bother with 30-60GB of games when you can have <10MB of books
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I just got ending C

It's a good thing my mom and dad have prepared a delicious supper for me tonight to make me feel better.
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>>172686394
>most immersive rpg experience ever with the best story of all time
I wasn't aware Witcher 3 was actually Baroque
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>>172686624
>supper
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Just finished the E ending. Thank you to who ever deleted their save to help others, you glorious bastards.
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>>172686624
Beat D and E you silly little thing.
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>>172685847
>of sorts
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Are there any endings that have to do with plug in chips?
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>>172674324
Forgetting the best one
>9 "Hack and Slash" S
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>>172686652
Are you just being a jrpg hipster
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>>172686878
[T]
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>>172686216
No shit. Waiting for my GTX 1080 to hopefully get it up to 60fps minimum.
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>>172686782
I've had enough Nier for one day
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>>172686767
Did you?
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>>172686878
Save and read the descriptions of your OS chips
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>>172687012
Damn still so much I don't know about this game even having played through A-E, K, and W. Is there really an ending for every letter?
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>>172686991
Baroque is as much of a jrpg as Lain was a slice of life anime
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>>172687169

Yes. Taro will probably put them all in a hat and select one at random and base his next game off of that ending.
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>>172687027
D is literally just choosing 9S during the final battle and E is very soon after you get C and D. Trust me on this anon, with how you're feeling right now you want to see E.
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>>172687113
No. I feel bad but I already had 70 hours into my save. Don't have the patience to do all that again.
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>>172685270
She is just tsun
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>98% tutorial
The fuck am I missing?
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>>172687421

go offline and die?
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>>172687421
Debug menu
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>>172687223

So yes?
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>>172687520
I would say no for reasons I just gave
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>>172687510
That's not it

>>172687481
If offline is not being connected to the network then I've already done that
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>>172678572
>Hey, 9S. How are you doing?
>O-okay, I guess?
>Running errands, huh? Here, have a drink.
>Uh? Oh, thank you very much..?

>I was worried they would be cold to me after that incident, but everyone seems to be strangely nice.
>Oh, hey 9S.
>Good day, Anemone-san.

>I've heard from the folks. Apparently you got drunk the other day and talked about 2B for the whole night!
>Eh..?! N-no, that's...
>About how dependable she is, how nice she is...
>?
>I guess you have a cute side to you after all, quite fittingly to your body!
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>>172687421
Taunt chip.
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>>172665192
>>172665425
>>172665759
>not reaching the chest by simply hacking a flying enemy
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>>172687823
Equip a taunt chip as 2B or 9S?
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>>172688181
Holy fuck didn't realize you could just do that. FUCK
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>>172662247

Try fishing at the coast itself. I only found freshwater fish in that spot.
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>>172685270
Did you play with Eng audio? In Jp version toobs is standard issue tsundere in that dialogue. She wants to support 6O, but is too embarrassed to say that out loud so she chooses the technically valid but roundabout way of doing it.
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>>172668584

>Do quest where you collect human stuff for 210
>210 almost starts to cry whe she mentions how humans lived as families
>route C: 210 is suddenly being super nice and supportive of 9S
>Find out that she had herself converted to a combat model
>She wanted to be paired with 9S so she could look after him
>210 wanted a family
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>>172688192
>>172688179
Nope not that either
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>>172688898
Did you try teleporting to an unavailable location? Like to the Bunker in C.
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Now that the dust has settled, which hacking track is the best?
For me it's 生マレ出ヅル意思:丁
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>>172672708
Sauce? None of the searches give anything
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>>172670507
>the machines' tantrums are a result of their panicked disgust at feeling Adam and Eve's incestuous homosex rippling across the network
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>>172689021
Nope
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So how do I get endings C and D in the original Nier? Is it just get all 100% of weapons and then go back to the end of the game like usual? I finished this or so ago in preparation for Automata but I didn't go full autism. I now want to go back and go full autism.
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>>172672708
>no mole
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>>172688849
What a cutie
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>>172686468
>gameplay does matter in a video game.
>>172686603
>>implying gameplay does not matter
Automatafags, everyone. I bet their only experience with Drakengard is a youtube lore summary.
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>>172684919
Anyone know where pascal is?

>>172685242
Bitch I've got every ending except Y suck my hog. Just tryna buy upgrades mats from my boi
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>>172689530
>finished this a month or so ago
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>>172672775

I was expecting that too. That the machines were former humans the way shades were in the previous nier.
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>>172689530
>"""finished""" Nier
>didn't get endings C or D
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>tell about 11B desertion
>don't tell
Anons?
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>>172689636
Like 12 people got Drakengard's E ending before 2014
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>>172685884
>cancerous fans
Why does anybody ever actually let this affect their opinion of a game? This is a serious question. If anyone is able to give me any insight into the psychology here, please do.
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>>172689804
Do it, it makes it more fun if you do
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>>172689804

rewards don't change.

Don't tell:she tells you 11B and her were lovers.

Tell:she laughs about it, tells you she never knew 11B was a coward and that 11B always used to abuse her.
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>>172672775
Humans are the hottest shit in Nier/DoDverse despite being dead meat.
>Cucked interdimensional gods out of world destruction through a power of rhyme games
>Created self replicating androids that will carry the legacy forever
>Created unstoppable god of war Emil

If it wasn't for magic aids they'd be conquering galaxy right now because aliens are dogshit apparently.
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>>172689937

It wouldn't matter if I was trying to rate the game but if I ever wanted to interact with other people who liked the game it would be difficult if they're insufferrable

There's two types of shit fanbases.

Those like The Witcher and Dark Souls who go out of their way to attack anyone who has even the slightest criticism

Those like Undertale, Overwatch and Persona where the fanbase exceeds the playerbase so you run into a ton of people who literally only care about their ships and headcanon
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>>172689989
>>172690036
I told her, they will all be god soon enough anyway
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>>172689937

>If anyone is able to give me any insight into the psychology here, please do.

People don't like to be associated with those they see as lower then themselves, no matter how superficial the association may be.
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>>172690236
>Those like Undertale, Overwatch and Persona where the fanbase exceeds the playerbase so you run into a ton of people who literally only care about their ships and headcanon
I love Dark Souls and Witcher but I haven't played any of these so I didn't quite understand.
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>>172689636
if a game doesn't have gameplay that supports the story instead of actively trying to annoy the player into ragequitting, that's quite bad
most people won't give a slightest shit about the story in this case, even if it's brilliant
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>>172690036

>Dont tell her.
>She gives you her chips because she no longer feels the need to protect herself

>Revenge quest
>Android girl leaves her stuff behind for you. The others tell you she armed herself and left.

>Photograph quest
>Girl no longer sees the point in living after you reminded her of her dead lover.

Everyoe you help wants to commit suicide afterwards.

T-thanks Yoko Taro
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>>172690064

>Deadly epidemic
>lets build clones of ourselves and transfer ourselves into them to survive it
>Made the clones too well
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>>172690361

'Secondaries'

Fans who never actually viewed/played the source material and only know it from shit like fanfics and fanart

Its something you're more likely to see on other websites like tumblr than you would on here.
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>>172690421
Telling her 11B is a piece of shit is a positive ending imo
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>>172689937
Some people genuinely like communing with the fanbase on shit.
Ex:Taro games. While the fun last for the game itself actual discussion on it can go for months as we all work together to piece shit together.

Why play the witcher when all you can do is talk in a mirror or get dogged for your choice of waifu? Oh you DIDN'T take the coin? I hate you self insert fags.
Etc. no actual discussion can really happen with that and the games shallow enough that theres not much to actually come together on to piece together as it all lays it out more or less in view.
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>>172690421
>2B's first real act of free will is sacrificing herself for 9S
>9S' first real act of free will during his current incarnation is waging a suicidal genocide war so he can end up being with her again
Seems to be recurrent theme for androids.
They really need to cling to someone to survive.
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>>172690597
Oh, word. Yeah that sounds fucking retarded. Also I fell for the Undertale meme and bought it, only played like an hour. I thought it was gay. I can never figure out around here who actually likes it and who's memeing, but should I give it another chance?
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Is there a certain point in the story that I should stop at in order to get Ending Y? I heard that you can't get it through Chapter Select
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>>172690367
Gameplay is just one facet of the overall experience. It is not as important as simply being able to directly interact with the story.
>>
What would happen if you were magically transported to the nier world?

Would the androids worship you like the god emperor of mankind?

Would they see to all of your needs because theyre programmed to protect and serve you?

Would any of them get on your dick if you ordered them to?

>inb4 balamb garden
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>>172690820
I would have sex with A2
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>>172690820
You'd be a corporeal god if the thing about their hard coded nature was actually true.

For all we know the android societies somehow moved past that.
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>>172690421
>suicide
Lifes for those that live. If you're too weak or weak enough to be dead inside its not for you hence emphasis on finding your own meaning.
9S and A2B found theirs more or less and they got to live just like Jean-Paul did.
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>>172690820
They would try really, really hard to clone you.
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>>172690881
No, you wouldn't. I don't think A2 is attracted to NEETs.
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>>172690820
I doubt any of main characters would blindly follow humans after the ending E, they went against all their basic programming and won and 2B specifically wants to kill the god to escape the cycle.

But there will be a large chunk of extremely dedicated androids protecting and serving you, especially if you're not an asshole.
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>>172690678
They're designed that way much like the machines.
"We're not so different, You and I."
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>>172691002
R-rude
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>>172690548
>experiment of splitting the body and soul worked for a thousand of years past the extinction of human civilization

Despite all the shit people give to project Gestalt and its flaws it lasted for an extremely long time and probably just had all the safeguards degrade over a thousand years until DevPopo fucked it up. It's still some robust shit.
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>>172691002
>I don't think A2 is attracted to NEETs.

You're not a neet if she's training your dick
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>>172690719

I enjoyed it but I'd definitely say its overhyped. I'd say try it again if nothing else than for the OST.
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>>172690881

>Not guilt tripping Popola and Devola into being your personal sex servants as a means to repent for their sin.
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>>172690734
I had zero issues getting it with chapter select. you can even chapter select back to 2B and play as her for it.
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>>172691050
I don't know; by the end, 9S's entire schtick is that he knows all this fucked up shit has happened but he still wants to serve humans because of his programming. The only reason that he ultimately decides to destroy every-fucking-thing is the logic virus fucking with him. It seems to me that corrupting love into hate is a key component of the logic virus.
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>>172691194
Sounds good, I didn't know I wanted this before you told me
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>>172690719
I wouldn't. Its pretty shallow and the tweests are foreshadowed miles ahead or straight up so predictable it they don't warrant the title.
>>172690820
No idea but people keep slapping this "serve" bit onto them where if you read its merely "protect". They'd squirrel you away somewhere safe, probably on the moon or a station, and study the shit out of you. Would they throw themselves at your feet? Probably not though they'd probably be like a japanese business man to the company CEO and bow and scrape. They would however propaganda the absolute shit out of you so theres probably plenty that would "worship" you as a figure but doubtful you'd ever get a chance at seeing them being squirreled away.

Tl;dr gilded experiment filled cage.
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>>172691194

what part of HARD CODED do you people not understand

Your creepy neet doujin storylines don't even apply since androids would do literally anything you asked
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>>172691002

>The androids want to know all about your life
>Tell them that you sat at home all day playing games and masturbate
>That the government supported you because youre unable to support to society

>laughingandroids.jpg
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>>172687294
But to make that choice don't you have to go through all of C again?
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>>172691371
That was before the ending D where he accepts that his meaning of life was built on a lie that hurt creatures he has no reason to hate. If 2B managed to start hating humanity at some point, 9S, way more advanced model, will become at least irrelevant to humans too.
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>>172691417
>humans would build machines that aren't designed to serve them
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just beat the game

So who set up YorHa, and more importantly, assigned to pods to androids?
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>>172691601

No. Thats the first Nier. Automata unlocks a chapter select after you beat C.
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>>172691562
>tell them you're pretty mich a king of the new century
Alright
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>>172691704
Unnamed androids that will be found with mackerel in their asses.
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So how much longer until Fatalpulse makes an Automata Victim Girls?
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>>172691652
It's not before D; it's literally what he screams during the fight on the D path when you choose him. He's programmed to serve humans. He's designed to want to be around humans. He's also logic-virused to hell and back, and from what I can tell, the logic virus turns love into hate. In his natural state, he is programmed to love humans; under the virus, he is redirected towards wanting to destroy everything.
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>>172690820
Judging by the 9S-A2 dialogue in C/D androids still have an intense longing to serve humans. They are only able to maintain presence of mind because there are no humans in sight and would instantly devolve into blissfully mindless slaves the moment they catch a whiff of your flesh and blood human body.
Even if they have no functional genitalia right now, I'm sure YoRHa R&D will whip up some top-notch installable mods in a snap. In the mean time, they still have mouths and thighs.
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>>172691281
Good. some fuck in this general a couple days ago said the second fight doesn't even appear in Chapter Select, wasn't sure if he was bullshitting or not
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>>172691885
What he screams during the fight is irrelevant. His true character development takes place during VN segment.
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>>172655198
Is the OST posted in the pastebin the CD rip?
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>>172691560

Stop making stuff up about all this fiction! REEEEEEEEEE!
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>>172691681
Becuase they were built for war and war efforts. They were built to PROTECT and DEFEND humanity. Its even in the shit YoRHa chants like a slogan.
The Legion was an issue and they needed shit immune to WCS. Ontop of that they made then using AI advanced enough to essentially BE human. If shit ever worked out they'd almost never be relegated to slave status it'd one of the most unethical things we've done and we already have rules and infrastructure in place to prevent it.
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>>172692156
9S wants to be touched by humans and describes his feelings towards them as affection in the Jp version. Take your headcannon elsewhere.
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>>172691002
That would only make me more erect
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Do I need to max out my weapon levels in the first Nier in order to get endings C and D, or just have them at any level?
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>>172692283
I know what he says he's internalized and fetishized his programming. Not all androids would do so and he's been through a lot to make that the one thing he clings to so desperately.
It'd be like being a pope to a flock of followers. They'd want to see you and feel your presence but they wouldn't all be over themselves trying to rape you to justify their existence.
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>Platinum released a free to play "8-bit Bayonetta" game for april fools day

absolute fucking madmen
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>>172691002
A2 is a NEET if you think about it
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>>172692826
But she's not recieving NEETbucks. Thats a very literal cornerstone.
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>>172692926
She gets G from killing machines, so it's kinda like NEETbux?
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>>172693048

Sounds like work to me.
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>>172693048
WORKING for NEETbucks instantly makes them not NEETbucks.
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>>172693116
>>172693179
ion, employment, nor training though.
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>>172675707
>>172675923
>>172676243
>>172676556
>tfw not a weeaboo enought to translate this
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>>172693048

>more art of long hair A2 whose in the game for 5 minutes than of short hair A2

This is the worst crime Taro ever committed
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>>172693223
W-what? Rerun that through google translate please.
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>>172693223
What the fuck happened there. That should read,

That's neither education, employment, nor training though.
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Hey. I don't really care much for videogames, but I've heard that Nier: Automata is pretty DEEP, and everyone keeps talking about it so i want to see what all the hubbub is about, but I have a problem, I don't own a PS3 and I think my computer is too shitty to be able to run it properly. Is it alright if I just watched a let's play? Would it give the same experience?
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>>172693354

Freelancing is definitely a kind of employment.
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>>172693354
A stroke maybe?

Also NEET is a lifestyle that the acronym very much doesn't encompass and thats not a philosophical or idealistic argument either. Its a require for you to be support entirely by the government otherwise you couldn't live the lifestyle itself and you wouldn't be a NEET you'd be homeless.
Its like saying you drive a car but have neither a license or a car.
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>>172693451
No, it would not give the same experience
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>>172693553
Wouldn't it be Entrepreneurship?
She'd be freelancing if she was contracting out but who's employing her?
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>>172693648
>Its a require for you to be support entirely by the government
Where the fuck are you getting this
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>>172693830

I guess. Either way she's got steady income she works for. Its not in the NEET spirit.
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>>172693892
Its a legitimate lifestyle and thems the rules. The gubment or parents but not having any means you aren't spending time on the internet, reading manga, reading porn, watching anime, chasing idol showings, being a shut-in, or eating because you're homeless. Its a literal requirement you have money but you can't get that through employment of any sort.
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>>172693760
Oh, well. It was probably a shitty game to begin with. Later, losers.
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>>172693981
Exactly.
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>>172694231
Later, I guess...?
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>>172692665
>>Platinum released a free to play "8-bit Bayonetta" game for april fools day
Hidden URL leads to
http://www.sega.com/14111219

It's happening.
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>>172694643

Only took 7 years.
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>>172693553
Anon if I go kill a bunch of animals and use their bones to trade with I'm not freelancing.
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>>172690820
I think androids would be disappointed that they can't regenerate the human race with only one sex of human. I think they'd probably look to me for advice about dealing with emotions in ways that don't involve going 300% nuclear. I'd teach them all about the non-aggression principle.
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>>172695446
>I think androids would be disappointed that they can't regenerate the human race with only one sex of human.

They could probably create a female genetic twin from your DNA.
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>>172695446
>you see, if you merely adopt a disciple of non-aggression you'd notice your situation isn't as dire or single-routed as you seem to think and self-growth as a by-product is sure to follow.
>DOES NOT COMPUTE
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So let me set it straight: 9S both loves 2B madly and hates her because she takes his memories of her away from him? This is what this scene implied?
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>>172695764
Yup.
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>>172695595
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>>172695595
Not how it works.
Arguably you could make a male from a female by properly fucking up the 23rd set just right but vice versa is a no go.
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>>172656569
>What am I missing? Has anyone gotten this achievement on Steam?

I went into C route, blew off his pants, and then walked around the sunken city fishing for an hour. Got the achievement.

Maybe give that a try, it might not work simply idling.
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>>172695764
its implied androids have no dick, that 9S doesnt want other people 3d printing his robutt waifu and that androids would bother with the holy sanctity of their signifcant others
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>>172695984
I wish Taro would just come out and say that They have genitalia
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>>172696102
Did he answer that anon that asked?
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Can i get some lewd handholding pics
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>>172696152
They don't.
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>>172695764
Basically yes, that she gives him companionship but at the same time is there to limit his growth and stifle him. Imagine working a shitty night shift job with no companions, and then your boss leaves you with a cute girl who you like, but every time you try to shitpost on 4chan she hits you in the head with a baseball bat.
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>>172687387

I didn't give up my playthrough for you to be a coward anon.
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>>172695764

Yes.

"You want to (Fuck/Kill) 2B, don't you?"
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>>172695764
>your waifu died
>somebody is going through your memories
>and copypasting your waifu
>just to mess with you

I'd flit too.
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>>172696168
Very lewd
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>>172696168
>>>/d/
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I just got ending E for the first time. Now what do I do? I'm going to miss having this game to look forward to every day.
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I enjoyed playing as 9S more than 2B. Why is this?
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>>172696504
Toobs was the one destroying his memories, though.
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>>172696613
Go for 100% without using the store.
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>>172696656
I felt the same way. I just liked the way he was attacking. He just felt more OP to me.

>>172696691
That's N2 fucking with him.
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>>172696854
>That's N2 fucking with him.
Who keeps killing him, causing him to be reset, anon?
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>>172691914
Also anus. Don't forget the anus.
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>>172696590
Fun fact: there actually was a handholding thread on /d/ not a week ago but the mods threw a fit at such degeneracy on their pure board.
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>>172696691
There's no possible way 2B could have gotten into his head like that. It was N2. 2B is in the sword which he figures out a bit too late.
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>>172697078
>>172696989
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>>172696656
Because 2B's gameplay is a pure button mash that gets old quickly and even few flashy attack animations don't make it particularly interesting. 9S has satisfying as fuck attacks (entire spear moveset including dodge counter and charge) but also deals with any annoying enemy way faster and have entire stealth hacking ability that is just fun to mess around with trying different enemy movesets.

I disliked him at first when i was trying to use him as 2B. When my spear throw dealt like 10k crit for the first time i understood that i was simply not using him correctly.
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>>172696505
>Chaste handholding with gloves on.
This is too perverse, I don't think such a thing is even legal.
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>>172697272
He's secretly hacking into her and making her feel extremely good.
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>>172690678
Having others around them gives pretty much every single sapient thing in the game a reason to not commit suicide on the spot. They don't handle grief all that well though because literally every character in the game that lost someone went fucking nuclear.
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>>172697187
2B does, but not internally like that. She's not a hacker. She wouldn't have stored a seed in his mind like that. Even if she could get into his mind, he could easily override her. The only one able to get into his mind like that would be N2 with the help of the logic virus.
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>>172697417
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>>172695764
>>172695835
>>172696234
>>172696484
>>172696691
I think people are reading into things too much. I never got the impression that 9S hated 2B. Even when he attacked her in that novella, it wasn't out of hatred. His ending monologue in Ending D didn't show any negative feelings towards her.
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>>172696989
2B was the true villain

>2B even gets A2 killed
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>>172697501
>>172697650
N2 was fucking him, but it was symbolic of 2B erasing his memories. 9S had some understandable resentment for that, and it's represented by that scene.

It doesn't mean that 9S didn't love Toobs.
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>>172697650
he never hated her. if at all he was made to like her to help her backstab him.

id say he feels pity for what she goes trhu every time she kills him.
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>>172696168
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>>172697650
>I never got the impression that 9S hated 2B
He doesn't really hate her in a common sense of a word. He loves her more than anything. But she's also the reason his memories of her are disappearing reset after reset, and that part of her he resents.
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when does 9S realize that 2B keeps killing him?

When A2 tells him at the end, or does he realize sooner?
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>>172697650
You can love someone you hate. Trust me.
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>>172697705
>gets A2 killed, then kills 9S
2B was the true psychopath all along.

>>172697803
He has attempted to kill her at least once, prior to the game.
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>>172697650
I'll amend my "basically" and say it's more frustration than hatred, he isn't so much raging against 2B as the situation which they're both trapped in.
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>>172698074
All evidence shows that every E unit is a psychopath. I mean it's not really their fault but nobody wakes up one day and decides they want to be Jeffrey Dahmer
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I don't want to spoil myself too much, so I'm here to ask one question and one question only:

I just completed Ending C. If I want to get D, do I have to play through the entire game aaaaaaaaaaaaaall the way to the same choice again, or can I load up a level select or something? I don't mind either way really, but I just selected Continue and I'm back at the Prologue.

Actually, I have another question about that: I'm level 62, and the Prologue enemies are back at level 1. If I continue on, will they level back up?
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>>172698074
>He has attempted to kill her at least once, prior to the game.

Is there other source material that shows this, or am I missing something?
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>>172698030
>when does 9S realize that 2B keeps killing him?
It's never stated openly but i think he suspects it since the very beginning.
He asks why combat unit is assigned to recon duty, then YoRHa Betrayers and Amnesia happen. He certainly can connect dots.

Pay attention that he wasn't frustrated when A2 told him this. He was just annoyed by the fact she was basically mocking him with this when their relationships are way deeper than that.
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>>172698224
You can use the Chapter Select to go right to the part before the end where you make your choice.
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>>172698074
>He has attempted to kill her at least once
He was disabling her though, not strictly killing her. Maybe wanted to desert and take her with him.
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2B v2.0
Much improved, no?
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>>172698243
http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/#more-5385
>Suddenly, she felt as though something was behind her when bullets began to rain down upon her. It was the long-range attack from a Pod.
>As she stepped back to correct her stance, she saw the edge of a sword falling. At some point, she didn’t know when 9S managed to ambush her from behind who proceeded to attack with a long sword.
>She never imagined that 9S would preemptively strike at her. She intended on striking him down quickly, but it was she who came under fire first.
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>>172696484
It's heavily implied that he said "fuck" here, judging from the Japanese transcript.
The censored Japanese text is 2 characters.
ころす (kill) -> 3 characters
エッチ/交尾 (fuck) -> 2 characters
or キス(kiss) -> 2 characters (unlikely though)
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>>172698224

Did you people just mash through the after credits messages and miss the fact that you unlocked chapter select?
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>>172698458
No.
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>>172696195
Proof
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>>172698458

>no Pink Bow

smdh tbqh fampai
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>>172698458
DESPICABLE
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>But even when by his side, his feelings were a mystery. It was painful not to know what he was thinking. So painful.
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>>172698458
Even if I could sexualize her that picture wouldn't do anything for me.
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Does the Iron Pipe refer to Brother Nier in japanese, or does Yonah say Dad in both languages?
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>>172672415
I like the way Marx is a small part of Engles.

Marx was a freeloading neet who spent his life mooching off his friend's wealthy family.
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>>172695764
If you're talking about that scene in the pic, I got the impression that it was more that the frustration of having to keep killing 2B look-alikes finally really got to him where he just shreds this last one.
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>>172698887
Brother Nier is some other weapon, the pipe is dad
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>>172698458
Vile.
Nearly actually vomited.
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>A2 will never get into the panther pose and fart on my face
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>>172698458
Remove this disgusting filth.
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>>172697736

oh I see.
Why does this ending keep getting sadder ;_;
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>>172699080

3 weapons refer to Nier. one of the samurai spears mentions Brother Nier, the other mentions the Father. The pipe is the odd one out since it doesn't have a counterpart, so I was curious if the translations differed.
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>>172699379
Pipe is Gestalt Nier.
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>>172698331
Thanks. All I needed to know. I'm off to get depressed!

>>172698571
>or can I load up a level select

I sat through the credits. I didn't know if skipping to the choice would invalidate the ending or something. That's why I was asking. No need to get your knickers in a bunch, lad.
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>>172698458
That is just disgusting. Thanks for killing my boner faglord.
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Oh wow someone found a way to access the locked elevators. You will not believe what's behind them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdF-3ZxAkmI
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>So you wanted to experience the story as a Long hair mysterious android?

>Her hair gets cut

ISN'T IT FUNNY? DOES IT MAKE YOU LAUGH?
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>>172699803
Short haired AeiToo is fine, but yeah I wish that the option for long hair existed from the start.
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>>172698074
not sure if self defense counts as actual willing murder
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>>172699269
Too far
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>>172699650
It's really astounding how fucking lazy Platinum was with this game. Even the most notable thing it does is a ripoff of something they did in an earlier, better game.
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are all the side quests like this pasco one? this is fucking terrible and putting me off the game already
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>>172699803
This, I got so mad when it happened
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>>172690421
The entire game is just one never ending procession of suicide.
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>>172700059
Yeah you might as well quit right now and go back to the witcher or some other pleb approved middle brow garbage
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>>172700210
Please don't use dragon lolis to shitpost. Thank you.
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>>172700363
That and filling the chubby loli niche is all they're good for

and nothing incorrect was stated
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>>172693228
noone can do this ples?
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>>172700460
>>>/trash/
>>
>have to pause during the final cutscene in route A
>when I get back, press O to unpause
>it skips the cutscene
>in my frustration I close the game and restart it so I can watch it
>die in the first minute of the fight
If I'm dying that easily to a boss, I find it helps to take a break so I stopped.
I am so fucking mad right now.
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>>172700826
>press O to unpause
???
???
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>>172700906
PS4.
I usually use it to close the pause menu but this is the first time I paused a cutscene.
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>>172701016
>press start to pause
>don't press start to unpause
???
???
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>Finished 99% of the quests before doing ending E just to Feel harder
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>>172701134

I'm in the same boat anon. But no regrets! We know.....how to solve them all! Right?
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>>172701106
O is easier to reach and press.
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>6O
>21O
>Amnesia E-Type
>Jackass
Who do I draw?
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>>172701268
but it makes no sense
why is that even an option
>>
>tfw bought the game on steam
>using FAP
>it's still shit and i only get 60fps if i lower the resolution /windowed

Yeah, gonna go with the ps4 version. Fuck my life.
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>>172701370
>Amnesia E-Type
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>>172699958
>>172699803
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
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>>172701370
Commander
.>>172701407
It's been an option in almost every game I've played.
Some games even say O/B:Close Menu
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>>172696505
I will sound as a faggot, but god, this is extremely cute
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>>172701652
Only faggots don't like cute things.
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>>172701370
A2
>>
>tfw three hacks kill Number 2
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Gun control.
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>>172701652
We all need cute things in our lives. Especially 2B9S stuff.
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>>172695764
>Androids feel something equivalent to "love" while in combat
>9S having some subconscious urge to express his feelings for 2B by violently attacking images and copies of her.
Gee, I wonder if those concepts are related.
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How long will it take me to complete E route?
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>>172701134
>>172701259
Don't over-level before doing Ending D, otherwise you'll miss out on a hacking easter egg.
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>>172702458
What level would you recommend?
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>>172701370
21O
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>>172702429
Hours, if you don't accept help, unless you're a god at bullet hell. Five minutes otherwise.
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>>172700210
only on /vg/ would an anime poster call me a pleb for not liking fetch quests, please kill yourself
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>2B is actually 2E
woah...
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>>172702535
Around 60, I think. If you're closer to 70, you're overleveled. You need to be able to hack her four times without killing her first.
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>>172702712
Oh cool.
Should be fine as long as I don't grind EXP then.
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I dont understand why they made 9S so advanced if YoRHa is so afraid that particular model is going to find out the charade going on. Why not terminate him rather than go through all the trouble/risk?
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>>172702987
I don't think YoRHa was trying to create a stalemate, the way the machines were. They still wanted to create better and stronger androids. It's just that they also wanted to protect the secret about humanity.
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>>172702987
its literally the motto of yorha

they dont know what they are doing. they dont know what the machines are, how to win the war and live trhu it, how to ress hoomies, etc
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>>172702712
Thanks I'm only 64. This should work
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>>172702987
because his model works out really well, they still wanted to beat the machines
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>>172702987
Because his data is valuable, and they have 2B there.
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>>172701370
6O is one of the best girls
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>>172655198
on the official site it says it is only for PS4?
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>whenever the androids about to win the war, the backdoor activates to eliminate YoRHa and stop the war from ending
>but they keep making better and stronger androids
Query: if they want the war to continue, why do they keep making stronger androids?

Proposal: this shit ain't fuckin logical.
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>>172703759
It's not a matter of being stronger fighters, but better, more human androids. Why do you think YoRHa warbots have emotions and feel pain when clearly it hinders them from being effective fighters?
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>>172703759
>>whenever the androids about to win the war, the backdoor activates to eliminate YoRHa and stop the war from ending
That was never established.
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>>172703759
Didn't they want to make "human" from android?
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>>172703907
Except that the endgame is to eliminate YoRHa entirely and leave no traces behind. There's no point in making increasingly human androids.

>>172703946
I'm pretty sure that was the clearly defined purpose of the backdoor.
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>>172688067
Thanks, anon.

>>172678446
>Pod firing at the fleeing twins
Gave me a chuckle.


>>172698318
Damn. I wish I were better at connecting these dots.
>It's never stated openly but i think he suspects it since the very beginning.
Wait, is this possible because of him having some of his consciousness on the machine lifeform's network? Despite being reset, some fragments of his memory remain due to what may have been on the machines' network?
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>>172704002
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>>172704002
Was this colored by a blind person?
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Did I miss something during my playthrough about 21O?
I read here on the general that she wanted to make a family with Nines and she evolved to a fighter android.
When was that said? I just remember some formal dialogues between the two. Is that from some quests I missed?
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>>172703175

Sure but 9S is hacker on steroids. I figure YoRHa would be far more afraid of him getting the word out that their god is dead. That is, unless they are so confident that either non high rank officers would believe him and/or they are so confident they can control the situation no matter what.

If continuing to evolve android models was the the plan then I can imagine they would reach a point where they make something so powerful they cant possibly contain it. I can't imagine a group like that not accounting for the possibility.

But then again, man is notorious for creating tech thats difficult to control and since android are created in the image of man I guess my question is moot.
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>>172704273
There's a side quest for her where she asks you to gather some information about old world relics in the residential area in the desert, specifically family-related stuff, and if I remember correctly she makes a vague illusion to her and 9S before getting flustered and abruptly ending the communication. It's implied she views 9S like her son.
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>>172704102
>Except that the endgame is to eliminate YoRHa entirely and leave no traces behind
The point of that is to remove loose ends within YoRHa who know the truth about humanity's death, but that's fucking stupid when you consider that there are a number of androids on Earth (like Popola and Devola) who were part of Project Gestalt and know about humanity's decline.
Their goal of making more human androids is so that they can evolve enough to guide their own existence, since all of the androids have a base programming that forces them to need an objective to achieve in order to continue existing. They prolong their existence by using a never-ending war to fulfill their objective, which is to protect and serve humanity under the guise that alien robots are a threat to humanity's return. They're chickens with their heads cut off, running aimlessly in circles if they don't evolve enough not to need this singular objective.
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>>172701370
E-Type

Draw her getting a hug
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>>172655198
I just finished Route A and have been informed that I missed out on a shitload of loot.
Is it possible to collect this as 9S, or am I just forever locked out of those items?
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>>172704778
The latter.
Better delete your save and start over, you missed some really good stuff.
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>>172704778
you have not finished the game till E or Y

at end of C you should get chapter select so dont sweat, just do what you can
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>>172704873
>>172704778
>>172704942
I don't think there's anything in A that you can't get in B. Even the sidequests carry over, as I recall.
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>>172702695
What is the B type officially supposed to be then?
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>>172704449
There's also an implication in route C that she stopped being an operator and became a battle model in order to go to Earth and take over 2B's role, to pair up with 9S in her stead.
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>>172704102
>I'm pretty sure that was the clearly defined purpose of the backdoor.
We see secret documents that clearly defined purpose of YoRHa project - to fake Mankind on the moon with zero evidence of contrary. Backdoor being the way of clean up.

Nothing really implies that androids are actually dragging down the war to be forever.
They are clearly developing improved tech to push machines out of the world and
YoRHa is only a small part of android military given the shit we see (carriers, rockets, resistance, orbital lasers, shipping shit to space and anon in a previous thread mentioned that world guide says there is a bunch of other space bases). They are not going to win the war by themselves (at least in normal conditons).

The only ones who are playing with evolutionary are machines.
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>>172704449
Alright thanks I still have a lot of 9S quests to do
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>>172705063
Well, that's reassuring. There's a lot of shit on the wiki that has [Route A] next to it, so I was worried I could never have those.
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>>172657412
I just thought it was because they are an older model.
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>>172704684
>but that's fucking stupid when you consider that there are a number of androids on Earth (like Popola and Devola) who were part of Project Gestalt and know about humanity's decline.
It's likely that anyone who actually knows that humans died off are either part of Illuminati or mindbroken like DevPopo. Besides how many of them can there even be, the war with machines lasted for a good 8 thousand years.
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>>172705241
The sidequest Finding a Present is Route A exclusive, but everything else can be done in Route B.
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It's a shame that increasing difficulty doesnt increase the HP mobs have
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>>172705470
I already got that one, So I guess I'll just keep an eye on the wiki while I'm on Route B.
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>>172705742
It's not because on normal you just melt through shit too fast.
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>>172705742

I just wish chapter select did level scaling

its depressing to want to go back to fight a cool boss but then they die to 1 hit because you grinded for emil
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>>172704684
Are you sure you're not confusing the androids with the machines? Obviously they have a lot in common, but I'm pretty sure the "shed the yoke of their hardcoded kill command" was N2's shtick.

>The point of that is to remove loose ends within YoRHa who know the truth about humanity's death
The point of it is irrelevant. The end result is YoRHa androids ceasing to exist, leaving the non-YoRHa androids with a God in the form of the moon humans.
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Taking on that secret 99 boss fight in the desert as A2 with pic related

Her dialogue is reminding me of a certain someone when suddenly

"Try dodging"
"Its not that easy you dumbass!"

Honestly her lines are great and I wish I could spend the whole game as her.
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>>172705861
Agree, I want to fight adam with fist
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>>172705813
You can also check the menu map for a red blip with [???] to make sure too.
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>>172706050
>I wish I could spend the whole game in her.
Same
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>>172705926
>Are you sure you're not confusing the androids with the machines
They shared the same goal. Without humans around, the androids got severely demoralized and dysfunctional. In order to continue their existence, the androids quickly began to realize that they needed to break free of their dependence on humanity, and the only way to do that was to gain humanity on their own. Reviving humanity took a backseat once they realized that the chances of reviving humanity was almost nil, hence their emphasis on waging an unending, unwinnable war over victory and revival of humanity.

The machines had the same dilemma and ultimate goal, which is why they voluntarily took part of the android's plan.

>The end result is YoRHa androids ceasing to exist
There is a new generation of YoRHa androids that were coming online at the start of Route C. They're likely based off of 9S, considering what 21O said to him during a side quest.
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>>172706050
Why is A2 so best and so perfect?
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does the beast's roar effect do anything besides looking pretty?
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Is there information anywhere on what the weapon effects do?
Obviously I can guess what "ATK Speed Up" means, but what the fuck is "Dark Impulse"?
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>>172706518
More damage

>>172706761
Weapon->info>read effect 1/2
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>>172706387
>the androids quickly began to realize that they needed to break free of their dependence on humanity, and the only way to do that was to gain humanity on their own
When does the game ever refer to this?
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>>172706387
>In order to continue their existence, the androids quickly began to realize that they needed to break free of their dependence on humanity, and the only way to do that was to gain humanity on their own
Except that's literally the whole point of the moon human myth, which was the whole point of YoRHa. They weren't trying to remove humanity from the equation, they just were just trying to work around the fact that humanity is actually dead.

>There is a new generation of YoRHa androids that were coming online at the start of Route C.
That's because it's not the end.

YoRHa is just a tool to give the rest of the androids a reason to live.
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>>172706518
I'm correcting myself, it's not more damage but more range to the hitbox of the weapon
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Where is my Growing Wings version for Automata, Okabe?
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Use it in good health, fellow player.
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>>172707223
That's only in Drakengard games, anon.

Automata makes some references, but it's not enough to earn its Wings.
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New generation died before it was born, reminder that command wasn't aware of this whole "pulling the plug" thing and wouldn't be working around it.

YoRHa is over.
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>>172707223
It will only play when Accord comes into the game.
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>>172659004
You know. You might not be entirely wrong.

Can't argue with the results though.
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>tfw feeling tired all the time
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>>172678325>>172682993>>172693228>>172700520

>>172675707
>2B? What are you doing?
>Matching the angle.
>Angle?

>>172675923
>A-a, it's that type of control where the movement axis adjusts with the scenery, huh. Yeah, that's annoying.
>It is.
>If I hold the controller like this, then whenever I input to the side the character moves in the correct direction.
>Huh.

>>172676243
>Ok, looks great.
>Next is like this. Uh, off by a bit.
>...

>>172676556
>Ack, it shifted suddenly!
>Like this... Ah!
>The front-to-back inclination!
>Damn... I need to somehow...
>A transformation this time, huh.
>Ugh, it's difficult to aim...
>What the heck is this...
>I better clean them up quickly...
>Evasion... Evasion... Evasion...Eva- Damn it!
>*frustrated android noises*
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>>172707641
when 9S tells 2B to rest I'm reminded of those obnoxious videogames that tell you that you have been playing too long and should take a break
You can't control me videogame!
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>>172705098
Battle. S is scanner. G is gunner. D is defence.
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>>172707582
A man after my own heart.
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>>172707471
We didn't see the commander's dead body. She could be chilling on the moon with YoRHa 2.0.
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>>172705098
Bagina. S is shota, G is guro (they discontinued it), D is dickgirl.
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>>172705132
Is 2B's Bunker all of YoRHa, or are the Bunkers collectively YoRHa? I thought it was the latter.
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>>172704151
Now this, this is quality fanart.
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>>172708169
According to the mail from the illuminaty, yorha is dead but it's only a small part of the android army, also material confirms
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>>172708169
YoRHa is one space station.
It's part of that whole "disposable" thing.
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>>172708146
>S is shota.
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>>172707785
Thank you!
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>>172697650
The game is meaningless. The only meaning it has it what we assign it ourselves.
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>>172706398
Because she's cute and sassy!
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>>172708659
>The game isn't full of suffering.
>We are.
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>>172707903
But you should take breaks between games anon. They are trying to help you!
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>>172708790
Dressing like a tramp isn't cute.
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>>172708790
I want to lick A2 dirty armpits.
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>>172708892
This desu
I would like it if A2 put on some clothes
there's plenty of dead androids to get clothes from
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>>172708892
Modesty isn't exactly relevant when you have no genitals.
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>>172707112
>YoRHa is just a tool to give the rest of the androids a reason to live.

Exactly. Hence all the existentialism references. Androids were created in a literal way to fulfill a specific purpose: serve humanity by seeing Project Gestalt to completion. Now their purpose is gone and can't possibly be restored. Project YoRHa is an attempt to save the majority of androids from crushing existential angst and crippling ennui which, in the face of constant threat by the machines, could destroy the last living terrestrial beings capable of giving testament to humanity.

A good question is how androids like the Commander are able to function despite knowing their gods are dead. Then again, from the conversation in the "Improving Communications" side-quest, the Commander is barely functioning at all and doesn't clean her clothes or do basic personal maintenance, classic symptoms of major depression.
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>>172708793
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>>172676175
>drakengard 3 got 5 pieces of DLC
sure bud believe everything taro says
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>>172709041
Huh...clothes? Humans are weird.
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>>172706387
>the androids quickly began to realize that they needed to break free of their dependence on humanity

Unless you're referencing some material outside of the game, there really isn't any evidence of this.
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>>172709056
Face it the only reason they don't show any dicks or pussy in the game is because they're not allowed.

In-universe where they're all obsessed with imitating humans you know they'd have genitalia.
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>>172708793
Oh god.
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>>172709086
Not him but thanks for the explanation it all makes sense to me now
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>>172709229
>image
Anyone else think it would have been neat to have the game end with 2B and 9S dying together, and A2 taking off with 042 to explore the world she now realizes is so beautiful?
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>>172709371
Try adjusting vibration settings during the maintenance scene.
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>>172709371
Well there could be something there, but it (it's a bit hard for me to tell in-game) seems that she's actually missing those patches of skin. Her skin looks very much like it's just pads laid atop the musculature, could be that they came off or were so damaged it wasn't worth it to repair them.

If she had anything visible before I don't think it survived to the point in time when we're playing as her.
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>>172709086
Right. It has nothing to do with creating human-like androids or breaking free from their dependence on humanity.

They will always be dependent on humanity.
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>>172709501
This should have been an ending, A2 deserves happiness too
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>>172709537
What happens if you adjust too much? I stopped adjusting because it was working but now I wonder
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>>172709650
What I've got from Automata is that humans did a better job programming their slaves than Alien cucks.
>we are not the ones to be wiped out by our robots despite all the fiction

Somebody should have shown aliens Terminator.
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>>172709623
Looks like she's wearing shorts and a tube top to me
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>>172709650
>They will always be dependent on humanity.
I'd really like to know more about android governance or their high command or whatever group of androids thought up YoRHa. They would have to be suffering from precisely the mental problems they were trying to save the rest of their kind from.

Presumably this could have been going on for quite some time, as Devola and Popola mention that they were the ones to establish the 'Lunar Server' after it became clear that the replicants were going to die off.
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>>172709929
>They would have to be suffering from precisely the mental problems they were trying to save the rest of their kind from.

Isn't that the reason for the secret nature of the black boxes? The yorha units technically aren't androids so it's ok to sacrifice them?
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>>172709929
Imagine being a E type except on a planetary scale and 8 thousand years old.
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>>172709086
This is good but then some questions remain like why yorha give new androids feelings if they are just mean to protect what's last of humanity history? They could just remove consciousness from the new models if they are just there to fight, no need to make more victims of their own fate
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>>172655198
Should I get a +8 Ranged Chip from Emil (4x +6 chips) for my second playthrough as 9S to try out ranged gameplay? I have 3 pods so it might be fun?

Is ranged any good on 9S?
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>>172710265
>>172710265
>>172710265
>>172710265
>>172710265

new thread
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I'm not a science expert or anything, but.....how the fuck does a planet with no night cycle even work? Can animals survive without it?
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>>172710202
>Is ranged any good on 9S?

I didn't really use anything else on route B and C his melee is too shit
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>>172710202
Between spears and upgraded pods, 9s is amazing as ranged. I usually run with a ranged damage +3 and weapon damage +3 because I am autistic about diamond chips and have nothing better yet.
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>>172710314
That's what I thought too.
Maybe most animal species died or muted, only the strongers survive.
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>>172710130
2B had a not so hard life.
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>>172710316
>>172710381
So it's worth getting those chips from Emil while still in route A?
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>>172710563
Emil chips are over costed
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>>172710563
Nah, his chips take up too much space, better to farm/fuse them.
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>>172710695
>>172710563
>>172710202
All store bought chips are garbage. Go farm whatever chips you want.
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>>172710695
>>172710768
>>172710779
But it's worth it to have a +100% ranged damage on 9S right?
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>>172710314
>>172710424
There's lots of places on earth that get 24 hours of sunlight for months at a time. If the planet was tidally locked it would fuck things up more than that, but living in the 'twilight' area would be theoretically possible.
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>>172710070
My point is that if YoRHa and the made-up lunar colony are part of a way to trick other androids into thinking that their reason for living is still alive, then the androids that thought up the trick must have known that humans are dead.

If they knew that humans are dead then they must be pretty messed up psychologically.

Using machine cores is just a cop-out. Of course it might also be a way to tap into superior alien tech, as another aspect of Project YoRHa is to incrementally improve android combat capabilities through trial and error. Androids have only survived this long because the machines let them, and they know it.
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>>172710919
Yes, but you'll want to swap the chip out when you get one that takes up less space.
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>>172711059
Yeah I know. I did a big chunk of route A with weapon chips from Emil and I still had space for 20% more EXP, 60% more drops, Shockwave + 3 and Auto Heal + 3 I think so It was pretty good.
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>>172710181
>why yorha give new androids feelings

They probably don't know how not to give androids feelings. They may not understand all that much about technology, as it wasn't part of their purpose. Curiosity, intelligence, inquisitiveness, openness to new ideas, etc, are considered dangerous yet they include such things in Scanner models. I suspect they've mostly just been copying each other and only making small tweaks here and there, and don't really know how to make a brand new custom AI.

Not that androids are stupid or anything, but maybe just not all that creative and extremely pressed for resources due to the constant war effort.
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>just beat eve again
>had to pause cutscene again
Hopefully I press the right button when I get back.
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>>172710314
One of the NPCs at the resistance camp mentions "before that thing happened with the moon there used to be night" or something to that effect. I can only guess that the aliens did something when they invaded?

It's physically possible for a planet and its satellite to be tidally locked to one another, but it would just take an absurd amount of energy to force it.
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>>172707471
>>172708057
>Debunked ending says "Somewhere, Commander is floating around, still with a stern look on her face"

A silly explosion couldn't kill her. She's doing fine, just like 6O! They're just floating through space until the Ark picks them up, and cleans the virus from them.
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