/fhg/ For Honor General

>threadly reminder that Raider is a peacekeeper killer

>>172627289

mind explaining why?

>>172627334
devs said so

>this game is so fucking dead it doesn't even have a general

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>3500 steam players

>law heavy so slow people can just counter with a light every time

So are we doing the boycott or what

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7th for DASH AND BASH

>>172627992
it what happens when you don't talk to the playerbase when your game is totally broken. People just tune out.

>>172628045
Lawbringer's heavy has a longer range than anybody's light.

I'm still very awful at this game and unless I want to wait multiple minutes to join a game that'll end prematurely due to rage quitters anyway then I'm forced to play bots.

Do you get reduced exp for playing vs ai on your own?

>>172628224
12TH FOR CONQS PROVEN TO BE TOO STUPID TO BE ABLE TO COUNT

>>172627992
what anime is that from?

>Playing Kensei
>Say "This one's for you, Jesus-sama!!!!" at the start of a duel against a Berzerker
>Beat him one round
>He says "no" and quits

Fucking hell, video game.

>red nat again

fuck this game

>>172628406
Actually it's
>CONQS PROVEN TO BE TOO SLOW TO REACT PROPERLY

>>172628430

Darker than Black S2

OFFICIAL "MY OPINION" TIER LIST
S TIER - LITERALLY BROKEN
Peacekeeper, fastest and most safe attack in the game, literally unreactable light attacks, dashes that slide a mile away.
Warlord, safest character in the game. Insane amount of options, headbutt tracks you to the ends of the Earth, attacks have bullet hell tier timing.

A TIER - LITERALLY ALMOST BROKEN TIER
Conqueror, LOL SHIELD BASH THAT CAN'T BE PUNISHED, superior block makes anybody a defensive god.
Warden, One Guard Break and You're Dead: Edition.
Valkyrie, 50% health gone by the time you realize she's attacking you.
Shugouki, unparalelled turtle play, lifesteal grab off of wall bounce, headbutt eats through stamina like nothing else.

B TIER - CHARACTERS THAT ARE GOOD BUT NOT REALLY OVERPOWERED AT ALL
Nobushi, endless poking and wheelkick mixups that never hit.
Orochi, lol who cares if they just do top light and AoE that's all he has bro
Kensei, let me just soft feint my unblockable into a side heavy then feint that and parry your attack but then feint my punish to drain your stamina so I can toss you to the ground and take 50% of your health away with one hit.

C TIER - NOTHING THEY HAVE IS BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE LITERALLY EVERYONE THAT PLAYS THESE CHARACTERS ARE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES
Raider, "ÉG RÍF ÞIG Í BIT-" *CLUNK*
Lawbringer, "AD MORTEM INIMIC-" *CLUNK*
Berserker, "Þú ert dau-" *CLUNK*

>>172628635
Pretty acurate in fact.
Except that Conq's shield bash can be punished. You just need the right timing to dodge it, and quickly strike while he's vulnerable.

Talking about Conquerors I just threw one into a wall in Brawl and he still managed to block my top heavy.

That ain't fair.

>>172628337
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA

complete BULLSHIT

>>172629582
If you say so.

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>>172629913
i fucking know so

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>>172628635
>Facing a Shugoki who literally just does his charge over and over
>Never even attacks, just runs away and charges

I beat him, but holy shit he was rep 2 and the match lasted forever. Did he get to Rep 2 ONLY doing that? Picture completely unrelated.

>>172630051
Which heroes are you having this problem against then?

>>172628635
>attacks have bullet hell tier timing.
I really haven't found this to be the case.

>>172630418
wardens and orochis, for some amazing reason they have the almost the exact range

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I took a break before the first "buff PK" patch because I was too busy.

what the fuck, is this game abandoned? where is the second patch?

>>172630616
ded gaem ded gneral

>>172630616
>2nd patch
lol

>>172630616
a combination of the matchmaking being broken, p2p connected are ALWAYS highly unstable, and prone to breaking, the Ubi servers going down for 7 hours the other day, and Ubisoft saying fuck all during this.

>>172630616
Pretty sure Ubisoft dropped the game to shill Wildlands. They have to save it right fucking now and add a shitload of planned content early, or it's dead. Not that they care, of course.

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>>172630616
never let it be said that a good idea alone can save something.

as my friends say "its like ubisoft doesn't want anyone to play their game."

patch yesterday was a step in the right direction, but i wouldn't trust it to last from what ive seen.

>no posts in 40mins
DEAD
E
A
D

Devstream today at 1pm EDT, as a reminder.

>>172633001
>patch yesterday
what was it?

>>172633039
How many hours from now, I can't find out on my shitty phone

>>172633069
https://pvplive.net/c/for-honor-update-increase-steel-elite-outfits-free-champion-status

here ya got ya lazy like man.

>>172633098
4-and-a-quarter.

>>172633218
Thanks senpai.

> matchmaking is really fast today
Did something happened other than the steel increase?

>>172633174
>25% steel buff
>a color scheme and ornament
>1/2 of the broken maps are now playable
it's something but holy shit, really ubi?

>>172633367
Supposedly more mm/connection fixes. I still get disconnected out of every other match even with green NAT.

It also seems like I only disconnect from matches I'm winning in.

>>172633481
Probably because the host is in the enemy team. That is always wonderful. If you do too well, they will alt+f4 and crash the match with no superstes.

>still got 3 reps to go before I get silver armor on my warden
Fuck I'm bored.

>>172633373
honestly steel should be way easier to come by. there is free to play games with buyable currencies more forgiving by a long shot that still make a killer living.

yet a full priced title feels the need to skimp on theirs.

but i digress, it not the worst problem. balance is by far the biggest problem, and while supposedly they are working on it they need to work on it faster.

do what other games do and rush balance patches out, see if it works, then just keep tweaking it like an autist til it works more or less. at least then they could say hey had done something.

>>172633725
Silver looks too blue to me. Black or copper look way better. If the game wasn't dying and had a healthy playerbase, I'd suggest just doing dailies as warden while playing someone else for fun.

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>>172633725
take a break from playing warden for a bit?

put on the basic gear so you have to work harder for every kill?

Fuck I love playing Warlord. People don't even go on your nerves for pulling some bullshit too often because they expected nothing else of you.

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>>172633734
agreed, for the amounts you need (3k for a fucking ornament at the smallest), it's ridiculous, at least they buffed the daily orders to 800 total + 150 for side orders

i don't know why they haven't realized that a closely-involved "fighting" game lives and dies on it's balance, for most people, myself included, it just feels like there's no reason to play when PK/Warlord exist

>>172633725
I afk'd a lot to get both the nice materials on Warden/Law, too bad all the other characters in the game don't look as good, let alone how shitty ornaments can be

>>172633945
Warlord is very fun to play, simply because of headbutt.

Someone fucking around with feints? Headbutt them
Someone flipping their guard around trying to make you try something? Headbutt
Someone just sitting there waiting for something to react to? Headbutt

I feel like it would be a LOT better if light attacks made the headbutt bounce off, similar to GBs, so that it was really only an option in neutral, without nerfing the usability of the move at all

>>172633850
>>172633921
The problem is that my Warden is my highest level character but I've prestiged a bunch of other heroes and so all I fight in 4v4s are full teams of 108 revenge gear people which makes playing any of my lower level dudes painful.

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>>172633945
once had to run from a gank onto a bridge.

three of them followed me onto it one at a time despite all arriving at once, pushed all three into the water.

i felt justified if they were going to be that retarded. fuck none of them even tried to push me themselves once.

im shit at this game but sometimes i wonder how these others manage.

>>172634184
oh man fuck do i understand that.

almost regret getting rep because rep one and suddenly im fighting rep 6+ 108s when i didnt even have blue gear yet.

i also have ended up as the highest rep and gear person on my team...at rep 2 gear 50....against a team of 5+ reps and gear 80+.

i once had a teammate ask if id carry them to victory in such a situation, only time ive used a smiley in the game and it was to cry.

So is Reddit still doing muh blackout or what?

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>>172634551
apparently, seems like a silly idea to me though.

"lets save the game by killing its already dwindling playerbase for a day!"

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>>172634201

>Following a Warlord onto a bridge
When will they learn?

>>172634627
I like that shield. Cool design concept.

>>172634171
Headbutt is one of the best tools in the game because it's fast, it's tracking, and it cracks open any guard. Kensei WISHES he had something like the headbutt.

>>172634767
FUCK, you almost had the Roach as well.

>>172634551
I'm pretty sure they're still going to go through with it. They wouldn't want to lose face with their act of solidarity, even if Ubisoft delivers on literally everything they ask for in today's devstream.

>>172634627
The idea is that, like any good corporation, devs pay attention to boycotts of their game, temporary or otherwise. Supposedly, the blackout tactic was used on DICE/EA for one of the Battlefield games, and suddenly DICE was doing a lot more and stopped being so cunty to players.

>>172634627
it gets the attention of the suits who pay the devs, which is the thing we want to happen

>>172634551
>>172634627
>>172634950
>>172635003
For what it's worth, the "official" blackout thread has fallen off the front page.

>>172635092
I believe people are waiting until after the devstream to make a final decision.

>>172634767
worse it was one of the thin bridges you can be pushed off of from any side.

i think my only other impressive moment was when i got double teamed on nearly dead HP by two shugokis on nearly full HP and somehow fucked their asses up like no tomorrow.

i have never had an Adrenalin rush like that before in my life.

>>172634779
yeah honestly i love most of the designs in this game, they did a great job on that. wish they loved the rest of the game as much...

>>172635003
>>172635092
thats fair.

im just saying its risky, but hey, i suppose sadly the games kinda dying anyways so whats the harm?

i still manage to have fun despite my lack of skills and its problems though, so i cant really think of a personal reason to do it.

>>172635193
For Honor sometimes feels like a game where they had a great idea, and great art, but really incompetent actual gameplay designers. The graphics, the physics, the movement, the design and the like are all amazing. The game itself, despite being pretty unique, is full of horrific bugs and balance issues.

>>172635334

Reddit hates Ubisoft games anyway so who cares

>>172635435
kinda my impression too yeah.

great base game, but balance is so out of whack at times, and the bugs and thought process on some things.

fuck i dont pay attention to map names, but there's one in elimination and one in brawl where the way you spawn +retard AI makes them just go for a double team with you standing right in their line of sight.

i get its just AI but i mean come on, that such a silly thing to have happen in game modes designed to start off as 1 v 1s.

>>172635435
You got it a little twisted. Most people love the core mechanics of the game, and the art and presentation is just a bonus. There's a lot of potential for a system like this. The problem is that the game surrounding those core mechanics is a mess.

>>172635476
>implying everyone doesn't hate ubishit

>>172635435
>>172635740
The animation work in For Honor is truly amazing, honestly.

>>172635435
>>172635686
SPEAKING OF GLITCHES

just had to exit my game because it was counting my space bar as backspace/esc so i couldn't search for a match or even exit the game normally.

even checked to make sure it was the game not my keyboard or computer. fuck me how does that even happen?

>>172635874
There's a common bug where having your controller disconnect on the PC version causes left trigger and right trigger to both be Lock On, and your FPS also drops massively. No idea how that got past QA.

>>172635435

Also has potential for a good fantasy setting

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> enemy consists of lvl 108 gears (with 1 gray gear)
> ours ranges from blue to gray
> fuck we're going to lose this match
> some roach on our team and was replaced by kensei
> command team to focus on the objectives and gangbang or ledge them always if possible
> the enemy LB is carrying the other team kek
> starts off with the enemy leading
> our team is breaking
> ohshit.jpg
> enemy team is ganbanging teammate conq on A so B and C were left
> "Your sacrifice will never be forgotten"
> leave conq to die with the other two kensei and roach on B and me, peaceshitter on C
> managed to lower enemy points
> fast forward since I died a lot
> SUDDEN DEATH
> conq managed to ledge valkyrie
> we gangbanged LB and rages, blaming everyone for being laggers and having a shit team
> kek.gif
> kensei was on the verge dying with enemy valk
> gangbanged him
> valks's on revenge, zones and took out conq and us fatally wounded
> throws flash grenade to valk
> double teamed him
> he finally dies
> revived conq
> gangbanged rep 1 warden and dies
I'll cherish this moment forever /fhg/. It's rare to have a competent team and win with the power of teamwork.

>>172636246
They really should have made it a fantasy game or had more fantasy elements. If they make a sequel (lmao) I hope it has a more fantastical setting. You could have more factions and more unique weapons/fighting styles, too.

>>172636254
forgot to censor my name lmao. oh well

>>172636254
>playing peaceshitter
kys

>>172636254
>>172636339
>> conq managed to ledge valkyrie
I meant berserker

>>172627162
Welp, i really wanna know which is the "4chan faction" so...
http://www.strawpoll.me/12645131
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12645131
http://www.strawpoll.me/12645131

>>172636328
kinda agree, but i also like the "realistic" ish bit of it, though i suppose its more of low fantasy, so it could still work.

i get they wanted each to be unique, but i find it silly how vikings wear little to no armor, almost only leather, and the samurai appear to wear wooden armor almost exclusively.

if nothing else the material changes and engravings look the best on metal IMO so it kinda makes the others look a bit meh and makes those not as worth it as a reward for non knights.

>>172636707
Samurai have one of the best engravings though. The flowers you get from beating their story on realistic look great on Kensei.

>>172636516
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12645131
>vikings
>savages
id argue this but considering they undoublty were the biggest asshats in the story yeah sure.

"fuck our food got burned by those orange knights, i know lets go raid and murder the samurai and go after everything not even just the food."

"ok NOW we will attack the weakend orange knights and basically cause the 7 year war."

"whaaa whaaa thousands of my people died im gonna knock you on your ass and almost kill you despite being raiders who never wanted peace in the first place and reacted the worst to the ironstones trickery!"

also thousands of people die in single battles, let alone a single year of war. you got off pretty easy dude.

>>172636825
eh, different tastes i suppose.

>>172637198
What the hell was i suposed to put in the vikings if it wasn't that?

I won't even bother against Warlords anymore

This is advanced cancer

>>172636516
>1 viking vote
Please whoever you are, change your faction to Knights, you will be rewarded with tons of DEUS VULT

>>172637343
well you put weeaboos for samurai so probably pagan scum/ /pol/tards(muh nordic heritage!), and deus vult faggots/ crusader fags for knights.

and i say this as a viking player(never been a fan of samurai cultures and knights seemed too generic so i didnt really have a choice)

>>172637198
I think the "thousand's of my people dead!" comment was because of Holden Cross' part in burning their food stores and the people that starved, the subsequent raid was for fun and steel, the war was for fun and revenge. That's how I see it at least.

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>>172636516
was there any doubt

>>172637760
so if almost everyone of us is fighting for the knights why are we losing...?

>people want to punish leavers
why they dont change WHY people leave

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>>172637891
4chan is a tiny portion of the population

is the artist that originally did this around?

>>172635864
>>172635435
>>172636246
/fhg/ actually saying positive things for once, this is amazing.

>>172638048
why do you think everyone's pissed?

the game itself is really good and has insane potential

balance, matchmaking, stability, and currency issues really drag it down, however

>>172638048
What are you on about? This general is always sucking Ubi's dick.

>>172638048
> falling for the "this game is shit but I still keep on playing it" meme

>>172637720
maybe but still doesn't change they were the biggest asshats out of the 3 factions affected.

>>172638043
im laughing my ass off, there one for the other factions?

>>172637891
ive noticed, at least in my timezone, that late night/ early morning the vikings almost always make it onto the samurai and knights shores, then the samurai almsot always push them back by mid afternoon.

the knights are basically a die roll to decide if they push both, push one, or get rofl stomped. no idea why the other tow factions have a minor pattern ive started to notice but the knights dont.

>>172638043
>>172638378
Yes. But we are the best portion brothers!!!
So pick up your swords and let't kick these infidels asses!

>>172638378
no, i wish there was

>>172638591
3/4 of our characters are are very strong, better than every other faction

>>172638668
Fuck, I wish that some of the wars ubi make that you only can use warriors of your faction and only fight the modes that are in contact with your territories

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uh... 4babs?

>3 dominions, 3 disconnects

ok enough is enough, fuck this game

>>172638791
fuck that would be awesome.

but im sure at this moment they would never do it, too terrified that it would split the community too much.

though at the very least team us up with people from our faction as much as you can, it hurts mew when i end up against 3 other vikings, worse when im on a team of all samurai too.

>>172636328
The DLC heroes should add more factions


They should go 40k and have more legions or groups like knights who fucking HATE everyone or knights who are okay with working with the other factions

>>172638791
do you want everyone to play pk/warlord/roach?

because that's how you totally ruin the game

>>172638832
>arrow scrub
fucking fun as fuck but so cheesy.

>>172639028
>Split the community
I think that is the fucking point of make factions.

>>172639649
There is no need for doing that

>>172638791
That will be fucking awesome and that don' match you with other factions

>>172639629
theres 6 dlc heroes.

not enough to add factions.

either two new classes across existing factions, or as the leaks imply, all 6 will be unrelated to existing factions more or less.

Multi-part Zone Attacks can no longer be feinted.

Raider's Fury is the only exception to this.

The Zone Attack input is now Heavy Attack with the Interact button held down, instead of two attacks together.

There, I fixed the game.

>>172639720
no no, split as in one group would only play normal "anyone can play anyone and team up with anyone" mode, and the other half would go play your idea.

thus both groups now have an even smaller playerbase and said problems that come from it.

>>172639873

I meant subfactions sorry

>>172639976
I mean one of the faction wars make you do this, becouse this way For Honor is making you fight for what you want and not thinking in who will win and join them.

>>172639887
You didn't. Raider, Lawbringer and Kensei are still inherently broken. Warden, Warlord, PK and Conq are still super powerful and the defensive meta still stands.

>>172639028
Imagine all the try-hard babbies crying as soon as they're not allowed to Duel for a bit. The tears would be delicious.

>>172640182
ah.

well then you have the problem of "whaaa i like this faction but this hero im not playing anymore whaaa" people.

>>172640436
I just don't find the other modes fun. They're a bit too messy.

>>172640436
>tryhards
>dueling
Are we playing the same game, all of the honorfags and relatively mature players duel, the tryhard shitters who have a conniption if they don't win is the 4v4 modes

>>172640436
would be funny.

skirmish and duel are honestly my least favorite, with elimination and brawl being my favorite, so id be ok no matter what i am allowed to play.

>>172640585
Also this is coming from someone who got bored of duel modes and is playing mostly elim outside of orders. Speaking of which, stop fucking giving me assassin elim orders, I'm bored of zerker and refuse to play the other two

>>172628635
>Kensei, let me just soft feint my unblockable into a side heavy then feint that and parry your attack but then feint my punish to drain your stamina so I can toss you to the ground and take 50% of your health away with one hit.
Rep 7 Kensei here, people almost never fall for that. Your heavies are so slow that the feint window is well before the parry window, so it's really obvious if a heavy is sincere or not.

>>172640451
How you can like a faction but dislike anyone of the heroes?

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This game isn't coming back, is it?

>>172641325
id think you cant.

my thought was more of their favorite hero wasn't in their faction, or they might just not like being restricted in any way or form.

also playstyle of the heroes vs the culture of the faction.

you may really like the knights culture but really like swords and shields as weapons for instance.

>>172641390
Ubisoft is going to make or break the game with this dev stream. Unless they hit it out of the park this game is as good as dead.

>>172641390
It will if Ubi really pulls out the stops to improve it and give players incentive. Release a $20 starter edition that comes with certain characters unlocked but the others costing extra, have a free weekend, release more characters, maps and modes.

If they don't do this, shit's fucked.

>>172641623
Agree with Kensei
Lawbringer has no damage, useless chains, and shove gets him GB'd if it's dodged, his only good move is top light, that's it.
Warden is very strong, but his shoulder charge is slow enough to be stuffed with lights on reaction. That alone pushes him down, especially since his zone is very punishable on block.

>>172641564
>Starter Edition
Doesn't /r6g/ insist that their Starter Edition is a fucking scam?

OFFICIAL RANKINGS; DON'T REPLY UNLESS YOU HAVE OVER 100 HOURS PLAYED EDITION. ALTERNATIVELY POSTING IN THE CORRECT GENERAL AND EMBARRASSING MYSELF BECAUSE I CAN'T DELETE POSTS IMMEDIATELY EDITION AND >>172641795
FOUND ME HERE
I honestly don't even know why I go to /xivg/ when it's just ERPing and lewdposting 99.5% of the time

PK tier: PK
S tier: Warlord, Warden
A tier: Conq, Valk
B tier: Shugoki, Orochi
C tier: Nobushi, Berserker
D tier: Raider, Lawbringer
F tier: Kensei

>>172641925
W H O / X I V G / I N H E R E ?

>>172641925
Explain how Kensei is worse than Raider

>>172642012
Raider can open people up, Kensei is helpless against anyone turtling and keep in mind, it's a defense meta

>>172641913
Oh, it is, but people still buy it because it's cheap. Ubisoft games are fucking scams anyway.

>>172641925
I'd maybe put Conq above Valk. Valk is good but Conq is literally unpunishable if he turtles.

>>172642012
both have dash lights and dash gbs, but kensei's side dash attack is very punishable on block

raider's zone is also much better than kensei's zone, throws are much better as well

kensei's only good tricks are his unblockable strings, but they're bad in the same way LB's are, lights can be blocked, and heavies are extremely parryable

>>172641795
Kenseis mixup is a fucking joke. The only way to get decent damage is by using heavies. If even a single heavy gets parried, you're exhausted which is an instant kill on certain matchups.

>>172641925
Kensei is most certainly F tier and I'll tell you why.

Let's say you get that oh so delicious parry/GB which never happens against anyone competent but let's pretend. You have to use your heavies to capitalize on the opening but doing so results in you getting exhausted. You final mixup is 100% reactable, the only winning move is to feint, but I've seen people start to react to the mixup by GB'ing so we're fucked in that regard. Oh but let's say you want to throw them for a loop with a simple light string. Your lights are the standard 500ms so they can just read an parry even if their brain was set up for a heavy mixup. So yeah, Kensei doesn't have any "true" strings, that is a string of guaranteed damage off an opening. Attacks that connect should really offer some kind of attack speed boost or something because Kensei is a just a fucking parry magnet, more so than LB. He has the attacks of a heavy without the health or utility. Oh and the worse dodge attack in the game. Backdodge is a decent distance though.

>>172641925
Warden should be lower, they were easily dealt with before I quit. Conq should be higher

t.former conq main

>>172641925
i have over 500 duel games and you are wrong

(((S+++))): pk
S: warlord, conq
A+:warden, shugi
A: valk
B: orochi, nobushi
C: raider, berserker
F: kensei, lawbringer

>>172628635
>tfw when main Raider
Rep 8 and growing, I'm afraid people will call me a shitter when he gets buffed tho

>>172642440
Yeah, I prefer Wardens to Conqs. A Warden's charge can be insta-punished with a light on reaction. Conqueror's can't.

>>172642307

Didn't read

>>172642538
Unless the warden counters it

>>172642771
At least it's still a possibility. Means the Warden has to think on his toes.

>>172642771
which has to be predicted, the warden can't reaction cancel shoulder in response to a light, the window between the startup and hitframes is very small

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>>172641925
Top tier: Warlord, Conq, PK
High tier: Warden, Valkyrie, Shugoki
Mid tier: Kensei, Orochi, Nobushi
Low tier: Berserker, Raider, Lawbringer

Orders within tiers are arbitrary and not reflections of relative power within the tier

>>172643151
Honestly I feel you need to "main" all heroes for a while, I change my opinion considerably after doing so because you figure out glaring weaknesses you wouldn't have thought of, such as aforementioned Kensei being useless against turtles

>>172641925
>D tier: Raider, Lawbringer
Even tho Raider main, I'm okay with this. More reason for Raider and LB to be bros. I feel Raider is underappreciated, and most people say he sucks, but I fucking wreck with him. Most people usually can't keep up with my hits, and I'm very good at parrying. Maybe it's just that anyone can be S tier if they become good enough with a certain character. It really comes down to skill, imo, like that I have never lost a full game against an Orochi player. The parry leaves a guaranteed heavy side hit

>great game
>years to work on it
>amazing concept
>unique characters
>still manage to kill it in like a month
holy shit

this company should be ashamed of themselves

im not even mad, it just disgusts me how pathetic and worthless at your line of work you have to be to fail at this point

these people should never be hired to make anything ever again jesus

>>172643378
I only really lose to Raider because I am too fast to parry his unblockable, I feel. My brain is hard wired to be trying to parry fucking Orochi lights.

>>172643635
And that's how Raider gets you. The mid-chain unblockable is to catch you sleeping with monster damage.

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sooooo is the stream happening tonight?
and what will be in it?

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>>172643151
You can't put top Tier and PK in the same category.
>>172643635
Depends on who you play desu. Yeah the unblockable is slow, but for myself, I only use unblockable like once in a fight. I usually use stun tap mixed with heavies and lights.
>>172643734
Yeah the mid chain unblockable is fucking a monster hit, and that's usually the one time i use it, but then again i usually only have to use it once. I kill most other people in 3-5 hits.

>>172643750
Stream is in 1.5 hours. They'll be doing some big "state of the game" thing, include a Q&A session. They've all but guaranteed that balance will be talked about.

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>>172642447

>>172643984
have you figured out how to do the unparryable zone?
i saw some pk mains copy cat it and fail at it

>>172643587
>this company should be ashamed of themselves

Why? You fucking idiots bought it and shoved money into their hands that they can now spend on a new abortion of a Ghost Recon or Splinter Cell game. Ubisoft probably WANTED this game to fail so people would get bored and buy more shit. The Steel and micro-transactions were a contingency plan in case it somehow became popular.

>>172644278
for whom?

>>172644336
Why would Ubisoft want a brand new IP to fail?

>>172644439
you were talking about the raider, who else?

>>172644472
So they can pump out a sequel with promises of it being "better" after addressing all the failings, or just so they can make a quick buck. What, do you think they actually give a rat's ass about maintaining shit like this? They know they can pump out Assassin's Creed: Future Days or some shit and make quintillions of dollars, even if it is critically panned.

For Honor succeeding would be nice, but they don't need or even want it to. If it fails, they already made their money. If it succeeds, they make even more money.

>>172644535
Then, no I dont know of an unparryable, you said PK tried to copy it so i thought you meant PK for a second thats why i was confused. But, no I didn't even think Raider HAD an uparryable zone, please explain.

>>172644691
pk mains are the scum that jump to the next "op" thing
one raider won a tournament doing that so now half the pks switch to him

>>172644278
id bump kensei above LB, he at least has a few nice things

>>172644860
Oh, I did hear about that. I saw that a PK main switched to Raider and was fucking garbage with him. Although, I've never heard of someone callin Raider "op" most people say he''s trash. Then I send them to Valhalla. I guess it just gives me an advantage or something if that's the case because I'm actually good with Raider.

>>172644609
You have absolutely no idea how any of this shit works.

You are retarded.

They just fucked it up. Stop trying to cover for their blatant mistake as a company.

>>172645087
He has no way to use them. Kensei is like a guy with a big dick who can't get hard sometimes.

>>172645205
>Tell investors game will sell a certain amount of copies
>They give you the money to make it
>It sells that many copies and makes money
>They give you more money for your next project and have more confidence in you

It doesn't matter how well the game does post-launch if it makes its money, man. Video games are throwaway products for the masses to slurp down between comic book movies and pornography sessions. They don't mean anything.

when is warriors den today?
or have ubi fucked it again

wait they STILL havent rewarded me for the faction war

holy shit

they arent even gonna do it are they

>>172646105
Just over an hour.

>>172646228
They said they're working on it.

>>172646105

In like 2 hours

>>172642503
At rep8+ you wont even have to tell people you mained him before he was buffed.

>>172646228
>Final Warrior's Den
>It's just a blank screen
>The words "Thanks for the money" slowly fade in over an hour
>Stream ends

How do i afk farm?

>>172642503
Just pray that ubi genuinely only give him some small buffs and not Valk buffs otherwise you'll get the PK mains abandoning ship straight to Raider.

He only really needs his guard speed fixed and maybe some better confirms off GB and he'll be pretty decent

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I'm guessing they're gonna balance things with console in mind, since they have a somewhat bigger playerbase.

That being said, if PK isn't getting a nerf they're utter retards.

>>172647923
need more data go- i mean customer )))))))

>>172647923
they should nerf PK and orochi so i can feed on their tears

>>172646867
It's easy: you don't

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So since pretty much everyone bitches about PK what would you actually do to "fix" her?

As a dirty PK player i feel like if you just made her zone the same speed as her first light and fix the flicker bug she would be manageable on PC. Or do people just hate her that much they want her lights to be the same speed as all assassins? Making her manageable and probably low tier with no way to open people up?

>>172649579
Reduce her light attack speeds and reduce her damage across the board

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>>172649579
Whatever they do I hope they don't OVER nerf her. Every character deserves to be good, but Peacekeeper is just absolutely ridiculous.

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>>172649579
slow down combo, lower damage and remove the free bleed on dodge/heavy attack.

Remove feint ability from zone, or drastically increase it's start-up

nerf her movement speed a bit

Stream when?

>>172649579
Remove zone cancel or at least make the initial attack slower.
Make second light attack of the chain 100-200ms slower.
That would be all it takes really.

>>172650558
20 minutes.

>>172649579
>nerf her light speed
>nerf her zone
>reduce her damage a tiny bit
>zone no longer apply bleed
FIXED

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>>172649579
I'm thinking, lower her damage more than anything. Her attack speed is ridiculous, yes, but that's not the overall problem. The problem is she's fast and hard hitting.

If anything, she should rely even more on her bleeds for damage, with her lights doing very little damage. Maybe slow them down a bit. But what will be important is to land a bleed after a heavy, interrupt a heavy with a bleed, and getting a bleed off a deflect. Also, guardbreak, but that's really predictable.

Biggest downside being that the way revenge works now, she'd be setting herself up for disaster. I'd change revenge a bit so that PK would actually be usable as a bleed-centric character.

>>172651117
bleed would only work if it was a continuous loss of hp and not ticking massive chunks like Fear+sharpen blade does

>>172650051
so when is the tournament actually happening?

Devstream in 9 minutes?

>>172651117
Wtf are yolu talking about, her attack speed is the only thing that keeps her OP. Reducing her damage will only make fights longer with the same outcome.

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>get 3 day champion status
>more end game loot
>get the same amount without it
>rarity is the same as well
is that just a ruse to get people to pay steel for this? My 3 chars i mainly play are all rep 4+ now but i figured my 3rd who just hit rep4 might get more purples but it feels the same if not lower because im leveling slightly faster. Mainly good for new people trying to get rep3/4 to start getting purples?

>>172652425
>tfw no Femsei gf

Stream producer promises no gameplay today. This is strictly talking.

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>>172652108
That's a good point. But if it lasts longer, there's more chances of mistakes being made, or for the opponent to properly respond.

I don't know, it's not like I particularly want PK to be insanely fast, it's just that slowing down her lights wouldn't make her have to use the other mechanics unique to her. It just makes her have to use more mixups to land a light attack. Something should make her bleed capability important to how you play the character.

For what it's worth, when I say reduce damage, I'm talking even less than Valk, about 1/3 or 1/4 of a bar.

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twitch /forhonorgame
Stream is late, but promises to be filled with info, including "upcoming changes" to the game

>>172652967
right now she currently does more or equal damage than law with twice as quick attacks

>in4 stream gets cancled at the last second

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WHERE ARE MY 3 CRATES I DEPLOYED SO MANY ASSETS IM THE REASON THE WEEBS WON REEEEEEE

>>172653519
did you switch teams during the season?

Stream is live, with Stephane the producer as a guest. A couple game directors will be added later.

>>172653578
>>172653519
actually devs mentioned that alot of people didnt get any rewards for the last round.

some glitch happend or something from what i remember.

they are 'looking into it'.

>>172653932
Yeah now that i remember, i didnt get any as a viking but got some in 2nd round. just thought they decided to only award winner

MINIPOLEAXE

Stream was cancelled on Tuesday because of the server outage. They're thinking of moving the devstream to Thurs/Fri anyway.

First weekly devblog was posted yesterday.

Top priority of the devteam right now is game stability (disconnects, recovering connection, etc).

High Fort and River Fort were removed because they had the highest desync rates of all the maps.

>>172654346
I love the non-answer on the server issue

Warriors den is live now

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PK NERF CONFIRMED
Also Warlord

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>warlord and pk nerfs
>no mention of conq

>>172654463
the game is never getting dedicated servers that's old ass news

Matchmaking is another high priority, will be worked on over the course of the year. A major component is gear, and there will be info on that later in the stream.

More info will come on hero balance later. They promise that Warlord and Peacekeeper will be rebalanced.

PK TEARS INBOUND

>dont worry we have a balancing talk further in the stream
They sound mildly unsettled

PK AND WARLORD CONFIRMED NERF

>>172654558
I knew that and accepted it, I just like how he touched on it with a "We're fucking working on it, leave us the fuck alone" type answer

>>172654561
BRACE FOR IMPACT

>>172654602
2 months late

>>172654691
honestly i think these guys are pretty flustered, this game has got minions barking at them from a million different directions

i hate the gaming community

>>172654759
I understand that, and i respect it. This is personally one of my favorite games and I'll be playing it for a long time, idc if it only has a handful of players I'll be one. I'm just saying if you're going to try to lightly brush over an answer the community has been talking about since day 1 and not even provide an quality explanation, then it's not even worth it because it just raises even more questions.

Big patch coming to PC with "major, major balancing" coming very soon.

Lots of bugfixes, including the debuff resistance stat. Nobushi will be able to trigger Hidden Stance more easily (this includes fullblock for Conq/Warlord). Assassins can now be thrown to the ground when exhausted.

ASSASSINS BTFO

>>172655216
If you allow yourself to be GB after complete loss of stamina, you should readjust your priorities. I didn't even know this was a bug

Debuff glitch fixed
Flicker fixed
Assassins not being knocked down fixed

REVENGE BUILDS BTFO

More options in custom matches, including single picks.

Gear stat changes are coming as well. Most changes went towards revenge stats. "Revenge gain for injury" was providing excess revenge even while blocking. "Revenge gain by defense" now only applies from blocks or parries.

All revenge-related stats hard nerfed by an average of almost 50%

Holy fuck theyre nerfing sprint speed. it was so fun on LB.

>>172655460
they did not mention the flicker fix

>>172655617
now they can run from the law
FUCK

>>172652851
>>172653901
>>172654346
I very much appreciate the updates

Further down the road, they're considering revenge gain rate in duels.

"Soon" means the patch is currently in QA testing. No date given.

PK zone now like light attack

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PK BTFO FOR A 2ND TIME

>>172655617
Sprint speed was bullshit on the Law
>I'm a massive fucking character wearing a full suit of armor and carrying a huge goddamn axe
>But I'm faster than non armored heavies who just carry a shield
Seriously, it was so fucking annoying because Law would ALWAYS run away, and you couldn't run from him

HERO BALANCE

Devs look at W/L rate, where damage is coming from.

PK: zone attack now counts as a light attack (can be easily blocked), warning comes earlier; sidestep dash attacks were doing way too much damage, so damage nerfed and is now more unsafe on block; riposte stab off a deflect buffed with more damage

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>didn't touch her light attacks
God damn it.

>>172655887
we don't know 100% if it will be a free GB if blocked like old conq/zerk lights or warden zone, hopefully it is

they implied side dash attacks are now unsafe as well

warlord's headbutt dodge window is gonna get increased by 200% and the punish time'll be higher, nice

Warlord missed headbutt punishable? is that how that came out?

>>172656119
her lights aren't really a problem, it was always her zone that made it retarded

Warlord
Headbutt stamina cost slightly increased, will now be much easier to evade, more punishable on whiff
Fights against warlord are going way too long, because he's too hard to kill
From fullblock, you can now trigger headbutt ONLY OFF A BLOCK

LOVE FOR THE LAW

>>172656230
*200ms

THE LAW GETTING SOME LOVE

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LAW

>>172656261
I play on console and PK light spam is literally too fast to block. PKs can win without ever throwing a single heavy

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HOLY SHIT

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Law buffs inbound.

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>>172656345
>>172656401
SHOVE INTO LIGHT
LONG ARM INTO HEAVY
TOP HEAVY AFTER A PARRY
WE LIVE AND BREATHE BROTHERS

LAWBRINGER IS GOING TO BE CANCER

THERES A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN BOIS

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LAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

LAWBRINGER
Shove guarantees light
NO SUPERSTES now guarantees a side heavy
HLH chain is faster now
Post-parry moves are revamped: light riposte now stuns, zone attack is now guaranteed and has superarmor
LHL chain is faster now
AD MORTEM does more damage now
LHL damage increased
HLH damage increased

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I CAN FINALLY POST THIS


LAWBRINGER BUFF FINALLY

>Long Arm Free SIDE HEAVY
Swift justice Speed change on the light
>fooking fast

>Impaling riposte garuntee

>Ligh reposte Stuns

>make way
>Garuntee
>super armor
>20 damage to 25

>book chapter verse
>judge jury
>faster

Unblockable is 45 damage from 30
>damage buffs in general holy shit can;t keep up LOPLOLOLOLOLOL

Holy shit Law getting some fucking serious buffs

the damage buff values are huuuuuge

Buffs for Kensei and Berserker
Light nerfs for Conqueror
More details next week

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AD

NOOOOOO FUCKING TALKS ABOUT RAIDER BUFFS

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>>172656593
>LONG ARM INTO HEAVY
>TOP HEAVY AFTER A PARRY
Holy fuck, this better be real

>Tfw Law is now going to be the OP go to class for tier fags

>>172656798
Addendum: nearly every character in the game is getting touched

ELIMINATION
Boosts now spawn on a 20s delay from the start of the round

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>patch over a week away

>>172656665
>LHL
what. ther are only HLH and LHH

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>lawfags

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>No more running for buffs in Elimination

FUCK YESSSSSS BOOSTS SPAWN 20 SECONDS AFTER ELIMINATION MATCH STARTS

>>172656854
It's not top heavy, it's the side heavy impaling charge.

Holy shit these law buffs, im glad i mained him now.

I honestly wondered why his combo damage was so damn low, its now in parity with his neutrals. What i want to know is are his lights going to be free or just really damn hard to block/parry after a shove? 700 to 500 ms is huge. On top of it going from 8 to 15.

Also, parry, long arm side heavy will remove all of anybodies stamina.

LB buffs:
>chained attacks now do much more damage(some lights went down to 8 or 10, no longer)
>Long Arm confirms into side heavy
>the second heavy in LHH or LHL chains is much faster
>the second light in HLH or shove > light is much faster
>LHH final hit does 45 damage
>Impale is guaranteed off of any parry
>zone after a parry is guaranteed + 25 dmg(up from 20) + has hyperarmor

did i miss anything

>>172656979
that's good enough, as long as impale has okay damage

Ubisoft does follow community tournaments
Ragequitters: devs are still "working on it"

>>172657071
Think you got it, bro. My dick is poleaxe.

>>172656968
people can still stall and or run just to buy time

>>172656674
ignore my frantic typing errors.

FUCK They still didn't talk about stance change speed for LAW, but they mentioned it later generaly.

I'm actually glad that Law's combos are getting faster. The last Law I fought, I couldn't get any parries off because he was so slow. I would end up waiting too long and just blocking regularly.

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>>172657115
impale is 20 damage, same as light riposte, but the real kicker is that a wall impale will give you a top heavy

also, since his shove > light is getting buffed, parry > impale into wall > top heavy > shove > light will be a great mixup for about 65 dmg

>>172657071
>>172657225
forgot, Light Riposte now stuns

Raider and Orochi are untouched in this coming patch

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Okay, the meta is gonna be so different that I'm definitely hopping back in when the patch lands.

Unless I forget about it since it'll be a while until then.

wow, so they're not changing anything about the Raider.

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>law gets buffs
>all of a sudden the general is happier

He was really uncomfortable with Stephan sitting on his lap

Ok.
Now Lawbro will be OP.

>>172657071
All my wishes came true, holy fuck it was me whos been suggesting impale after a heavy parry, im crying tears of joy now.

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>>172657115
impale does 15 or 20 damage i forget, if you hit someone on a wall you get a free top heavy causing stun and 30 damage and that a super hard to block to begin with 15 damage side light now due to the stun is going from 700 ms to 500 ms.

Perfect scenario is 60 damage off a heavy parry.

Oh my.

why the fuck no Raider buffs?

>>172657584
They did say lots of character tweaks besides the PK, WL and LB. They just didn't disclose any of them.

OH FUCK.

They said the light on swift justice finisher is FOOKING FAST.

This might be a guaranteed light after shove.

>>172657331
You can just heavy into light while theyre stunned though.

>>172657515
>due to the stun is going from 700 ms to 500 ms.
what? can you explain?

>>172657647
No, it's 500ms, same as most of the fast lights in the game. Not guaranteed.

>nerf PK
>didn't say shit about the flicker
Jesus, the only real problem with PK is the fucking flicker.

>>172657635
Nope, they actually said they're not touching the Raider or Orochi at all for the next patch.

Link to the stream?

>>172657398
Worst character gets massive buffs, why would we NOT be happy?
Finally long arm isn't useless anymore
Finally, his combos are harder to react to
Finally, his regular unblockable has been brought to the level of his parry unblockable
Finally, his parry impale can actually be used

It's almost like he can finally be a counter attacker

>>172657717
parry heavy>impaling riposte>wallstun>top heavy(stunning)>500ms light attack

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>>172657372
I don't feel like Raider needs a lot desu.
>Raider main
>stats are a meme, just showing I main him

Well atleast the general wont be full of depressed faggots

game might be ded but atleast muh law will be viable

>>172657647
I don't think it will be free but it will be difficult to block.

>>172657717
Light after a heavy speed is now 500ms, was 700ms, you could already catch alot of people out with a sidelight after a top heavy because it was hard to see it when your screen was fucked, now it will be pretty much a 33/33/33

>>172657331
>You can literally go from standing to impale charge
This is bullshit.

>>172657647
they did say it would be going down to 500 ms, which means a fast light in any direction after a shove, very solid

the buff to how fast his second heavy comes out is really good imo, makes LHH and LHL very solid chains

>>172657734
the thing is, conq lights are 36f, very slow, but since shield bash causes so much stun, a light is guaranteed

we'll have to see how it works out

>>172657919
After a light parry in the current patch you can get a free impale.

in the patch you can do it from any parry prepare your asshole law breaker.

>>172657927
It's not actual input blocking stun, just the flashbang effect and disabled HUD.

>>172656968
>>172657246
What changes did they make to elimination?

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So on the whole, from what was revealed in the devstream:

>Revenge gear stats nerfed by ~50%
>Debuff resistance stat fixed
>Hidden Stance and fullblock stances will be easier to trigger
>Peacekeeper: zone attack now counts as a light, is more telegraphed; sidestep attacks weaker and more punishable on block; riposte stabb buffed to be more attractive
>Warlord: Headbutt costs more stamina, is more easily whiffed, is more punishable on whiff, fullblock -> headbutt only triggers off an actual block
>Lawbringer: Chains are faster and more damaging across the board, side heavy confirmed off Long Arm, parry follow-ups do more stuff and hit harder (light riposte stuns, impale is guaranteed, zone attack hits harder and has hyperarmor)
>Buffs confirmed for Kensei and Berserker
>Slight nerf for Conqueror
>Raider and Orochi untouched
>Other characters likely to be touched

>>172657782
it's over

>>172657865
>>172657892
oh true, totally forgot

>>172657919
only after a parry

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>tfw no raider buffs

>>172658068
Boosts now spawn 20 seconds after match starts so people can't just run away and grab them as soon as the match starts

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>>172651643
Gonna try again next week, we need at least 8 players to make a fair double elim 1v1 tourney happen.
Out of 12 interested players, only 5 were available to play.
So soon, probably once we get a few more people to join the community, or whenever we can get 8 ppl together at once.
I already have a blank roster and bracket system set up and ready to go.

>>172658068
>>172658121
In Elimination, buffs will now spawn on a 20s delay

>>172658198
That's perfect, too many fags would immediately abandon fights for buffs

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>yfw you realize that all the tier cancer players will start playing law now that he's becoming more viable

>we can't stop this scum from joining our order

>>172657758
This.
And the second light.
But that's it.
Free gb from blocking a dash atack doesn't make sense, it's easy to parry anyways.

>>172658121
what exactly was the conq nerf?

Can someone post patch stuff? If there's a link.

>>172658271
I played Valk since launch, suffered until the buffs dropped. I wanted to play Law, but I didn't have the patience to go through that again. Am I tier cancer scum?

>>172658342
Unspecified. The only characters they went into detail on were PK, Warlord, and LB.

>>172658276
They said that according to their statistics, one of the biggest sources of Peacekeeper's damage was actually her sidestep attacks; those are getting nerfed. By comparison, no one was using her deflect stab, so that's getting buffed.

>>172658271
Prepare for the incoming flood of experienced lawmen into duels and brawl out of the 4v4s.

I love how they wanted to keep his 4v4 potential the same pre-patch but now its even stronger due to still getting revenge knockdown on shove and how we will be able to ledge anyone he damn pleases like a raider who has their back to a hazard 20m away.

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>>172658121
>Lawbringer: Chains are faster and more damaging across the board, side heavy confirmed off Long Arm, parry follow-ups do more stuff and hit harder (light riposte stuns, impale is guaranteed, zone attack hits harder and has hyperarmor)
I think I'm about to cum.

Is long arm faster? it is currently one of the easiest to dodge unblockables, i think side heavies are enticing but its still extremely easy to punish with a side dodge and gb.

>>172658121
>>172658662
Forgot that shove -> light is now guaranteed.

>>172658271
They will drop out real quick, either from being unable to properly parry or from other, true LBs kicking their ass

>>172656809
MORTEM

>>172658815
it's not

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>lawfags all happy
>Zerker and kenseis also getting buffs

>>172658815
Its not tho

>>172658793
No mention of NO SUPERSTES itself being faster, only that you can now confirm a side heavy off it.

>>172658817
I joined the LB party late because I was too busy with Kensei. Am I still a fag?

>>172657398
If you didn't know everyone here plays lb because they like suffering and bitch about pk. Now after patch watch law to be broken and nothing but defense for him not being op.

>>172627289
>>172627334
>>172627536
When they looked over the data, Raider had an alarming win rate vs PK. Doesn't make any sense, but that was the data.

If I had to guess ppl that play raider work hard and from a disadvantage, so they are good players. Average PK is total shit spam city and by the numbers they got cut down.

>>172658531
>letting tier stop you from playing the heros you want
yep, you're tier cancer

Personally I'm a reversed tier whore, I play anything that isn't considered strong
Raider, Law, Kensei, Berserker with the exception of Shugoki, who can be considered atleast B tier

>>172658876
>lawfags all happy
I'm not just happy im fucking ecstatic mate they may have just done another valkyrie at this rate with the free impale after any parry.

>>172658972
Youre a fag only if you join LB after the buff

>>172658815
It's fast, but only as fast as a neutral top light was before. Not guaranteed at all.

It's going to be interesting watching the Lawbringer mains defend their character when his winrate skyrockets after these across-the-board buffs.

>>172659076
So if I get my LB to prestige 1 before the buff, am I not a fag?

>>172658972
>I joined the LB party late because I was too busy with Kensei. Am I still a fag?
No, unless you're literally a fag

>>172659117

This general is infested with them thats for sure

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>>172659117
As a Lawmain, I think the only problem is the impaling charge after a heavy parry. That's too far, no one's EVER going to attack us anymore. They should have just made it 500-600ms fast, not guaranteed if they really wanted it useable after a

>>172658581
And where are they getting this data? Jesus.
The problem with pk is the flicker abuse.

Well, I guess they only did right with Warlord after all.